Hello Sir Jinx!,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:18:42 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 12:18:42 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Sir Jinx! wrote:
Hello ,
I have two programs that need new versions of mfc42.dll and
comctl.dll. But I can't remove them in
Hello Syafril Hermansyah,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:33:34 +0700 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 1:33:34 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Syafril Hermansyah wrote:
Perhaps you right, but the O/S might be related too.
Anyone who use NT Workstation having same problem (I am
Hello all,
since it seems to be always the same stuff that you're not satisfied
with I'll put my answer in one reply:
IMAP, PGP integration and the editor are not perfect to you. I'm
satisfied with the way they're implemented. And I'm sure they'll
improve them anyway.
But why DO you use The
On Thursday 27 January 2000 Sir Jinx! wrote:
I have two programs that need new versions of mfc42.dll and
comctl.dll. But I can't remove them in _any_ known way I tried
_everything_: deleting, renaming or cutting them didn't work. Even
from DOS [Norton Commander] -
Hello tracer,
On Thursday, January 27, 2000 at 15:28:45 GMT +0700 (which was
27/01/2000 15:28 GMT + 0700 my Local Time) you told to the list:
[ Amazing, your reply looks good, congratulation to you Keith and
Thomas --- who succeeded to confince you to do this ]
Perhaps you right,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:57:23 +0100, Nico Schirwing wrote:
==8
IMAP, PGP integration and the editor are not perfect to you. I'm
satisfied with the way they're implemented. And I'm sure they'll
improve them anyway.
But why DO you use The Bat then? I guess all of you wouldn't do if
Hi,
I have a few hangups with the quick search facility:
a) It should be invoked with a single keyboard shortcut instead of just
simply hitting lettered keys with the message list in focus.
b) Why not let it do searches by dynamic elimination. By this I mean, the
message list only lists
Hello Oleg,
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 08:29, you wrote something about "TB and Linux?":
OZ Maybe export to unix mailbox will help you to work it around?
That would be, as you say, just a workaround. I will probably be working a
couple of hours a day with each operating system and
Hello, Bat users,
Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this
software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud
registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold
and other obscure programs (all reviewed on my Web site). But I've
always
Hallo John,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT (27.01.2000, 21:21 +0800 GMT),
John De Hoog wrote:
JDH always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being
JDH that it doesn't do Japanese. So I arranged to have all Japanese mail
JDH sent to a different account, and use
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900, John De Hoog wrote:
==8
Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two
of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes.
I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but
for some
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:46:19 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
==8
JDH Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two
JDH of them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes.
JDH I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but
JDH
Hallo Allie,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:05:15 -0500 GMT (27.01.2000, 22:05 +0800 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:
AM That shouldn't have anything to do with his problem since he has a
AM constant/permanent connection to the internet.
Right. John, can you activate the dial-up monitor (Options/Show
Hi John,
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 1:21:55 PM, you wrote:
JDH Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this
JDH software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud
JDH registered owner of Datula, EdMax, DinoX, King of Mail, Akira32Gold
JDH and other obscure
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:16:55 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
==8
AM That shouldn't have anything to do with his problem since he has a
AM constant/permanent connection to the internet.
Right. John, can you activate the dial-up monitor (Options/Show
Dial-Up Monitor/Show always) and
Morning Allie Martin,
a) It should be invoked with a single keyboard shortcut instead of just
simply hitting lettered keys with the message list in focus.
I have postulated this as well ;-)
b) Why not let it do searches by dynamic elimination. By this I mean, the
message list only lists
Morning John De Hoog,
Now to my problem. I've got three accounts set up, and have set two of
them to check for new messages automatically every few minutes. I have a
permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but for some reason
The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I
Hello John Sullivan,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:39:23 + GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 6:39:23 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
John Sullivan wrote:
If you select the mfc42.dll in explorer and press Alt-Enter, the
version tab will tell you which version of MFC you
Hello Thomas Fernandez,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:46:19 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 8:46:19 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Hallo John,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT (27.01.2000, 21:21 +0800 GMT),
John De Hoog wrote:
JDH
Hello John De Hoog,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 8:21:55 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
John De Hoog wrote:
Hello, Bat users,
Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this
software. I'm basically a mailer
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:22:31 +0100, Jast wrote:
==8
b) Why not let it do searches by dynamic elimination. By this I mean, the
message list only lists messages satisfying the search string and as you
type each new character the list is updated. When you're finished only
the messages
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 2:57:23 AM, Nico wrote:
But why DO you use The Bat then? I guess all of you wouldn't do if
they thought they hadn't find the best client available. Not saying
the perfect one. But one that's better than the other in many points.
Because it is the most
Morning Allie Martin,
I type in the quick search, 'jasper', and already a list of the message
list is truncated to comprise messages with the string 'jasper' in them.
I am clear about what you meant, and I'd usually prefer this
functionality. The reason I'd like it to be an
Hi there!
On 27 Jan 00, at 11:45, Nico Schirwing wrote
about "Re: Why do I use The Bat?":
Okay, it's OT here, let's move it into private if you so wish;-) Anyhow, here's
the reply:
I could supply here a pretty long list of *essential* features that
it doesn't support, but I won't.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:27:42 +0100, Jast wrote:
==8
I am clear about what you meant, and I'd usually prefer this
functionality. The reason I'd like it to be an option is that I sometimes
want to find a message in a certain thread, and see the thread around it
Hello Alexander,
People tend to change. Have you ever thought about it?
No. There are three constants in the universe: Pi, the speed of light
and I! ;-)
Displaying the year of a date in two-digit format is not standard.
Why???
That question was worth some billion Dollars. Well, more the
Hello Allie,
Of course Steve had to pounce on such sweeping statements and prove
them wrong, and he's right. They are wrong. :)
There's just one thing left to say and that is: ;-P
I guess we stop this discussion since it's obviously that the "perfect
program" means something different for
Hello Steve,
Because it is the most acceptable trade-off of a field of clients
that all are flawed and, IMHO, not "perfect" in any way.
I can only compare with the competitors and with what I need. That way
it comes pretty close to "perfect" for me.
Nico
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 10:38:53 AM, Nico wrote:
No. There are three constants in the universe: Pi, the speed of light
and I! ;-)
Pi has changed through the years, the speed of light has been reduced in
certain mediums to a point where a beat up Yugo could outrun it, and you'll
fall to
NS Displaying the year of a date in two-digit format is not standard. It
NS seems pretty useless to discuss such stuff. Why not make it
NS configurable if some people don't like it?
My Bat shows the year with four digits. If yours doesn't, it is user
configurable. Hit "Regional Settings" in
Hello Steve,
and you'll fall to the one true constant of the universe, death.
It's highly off topic but: You'll agree that, in your world view, I'll
be constantly dead then. Kind of final upgrade. Right? :-)
People who submit to the preview pain are beyond my comprehension.
The preview pane
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:05:47 -0800, Tom Plunket wrote:
==8
My Bat shows the year with four digits. If yours doesn't, it is user
configurable. Hit "Regional Settings" in the control panels and change
the short date format (I recently did this due to the Y2K sort bug with
Agent and
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 11:18:17 AM, Nico wrote:
Is there anyone who really likes something in that program? You're
always talking about what you don't like...
Of course I do. What I like doesn't need improvement.
--
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Hello Tom,
My Bat shows the year with four digits. If yours doesn't, it is user
configurable. [...]
Sorry, it was a comment about Pegasus. Thanks anyway for the hint! :-)
Nico
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Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.
On Thursday, 27 January, 2000, 6:46:19 AM, Thomas wrote:
Hallo John,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:21:55 +0900 GMT (27.01.2000, 21:21 +0800 GMT),
John De Hoog wrote:
JDH always had a place in my heart for The Bat. The main problem being
JDH that it doesn't do
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.
On Thursday, 27 January, 2000, 7:35:11 AM, Mark wrote:
Hi John,
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 1:21:55 PM, you wrote:
JDH Well, I finally gave in to my Bat fantasies and registered this
JDH software. I'm basically a mailer collector, being the proud
JDH
Hi there!
On 27 Jan 00, at 19:38, Nico Schirwing wrote
about "Re: Why do I use The Bat?":
People tend to change. Have you ever thought about it?
No. There are three constants in the universe: Pi, the speed of light
and I! ;-)
Well, there exist many more;-) m/e ratio, for one;-) As
Hi there!
On 27 Jan 00, at 10:56, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: Why do I use The Bat?":
No. There are three constants in the universe: Pi, the speed of light
and I! ;-)
Pi has changed through the years,
Steve, you are clearly worth the 0 mark in Math;-) Pi has never changed, it's
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 12:19:36 PM, Alexander wrote:
Are you going to be cloned (uhm... let me count...) about 133,(3) times? What
a heroic attempt to eternity!;-)
Wanna bet?
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/01/26/1133249mode=thread
--
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Thursday, January 27, 2000, 12:23:21 PM, Alexander wrote:
Steve, you are clearly worth the 0 mark in Math;-) Pi has never changed, it's
the people who measured it;-)
Nope, it is how it has been measured through the years. Of course there
is always the theory that there is a memory leak in
Hello Wolfgang,
Wednesday, January 26, 2000, 1:35:47 PM, you wrote:
WK The solution is not to put your PGP key in every message.
WK That's an absolutely annoying overhead. Put it on your
WK home page and add the URL to your signature.
WK And please add an signature separator "-- "
Hello Nick,
Tuesday, January 25, 2000, 8:26:52 PM, you wrote:
NA On Tuesday, January 25, 2000, 3:01:02 PM, Sebastian Ahmadi wrote:
The program keeps asking me if I want to import the keyset. Well, the
first time I thought that would be okay, but it does that EVERY time I
am decrypting a
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:36:56 -0500, Sebastian Ahmadi wrote:
==8
Why is that an absolutely annoying overhead? PGP works best if
everyone has easy access to your public key and that is the best way
to do so. I don't think you have to wait more than a fraction of a
second more for your
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 12:36:56 PM, Sebastian wrote:
Why is that an absolutely annoying overhead? PGP works best if
everyone has easy access to your public key and that is the best way
to do so.
No, it is not the best way to do so. Once they have it they don't need it
again... and
Hi,
WK And please add an signature separator "-- " (dashdashenternewline)
WK to your TBUDL template.
Oh no, sorry, that should read dashdashblankenter
of course :-(
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Wolfgang
Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists
Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A
in
Hi,
...
GCS Support for all of the PGP options. Eudora used to support these
GCS (Eudora Lite still does, AFAIK, although Eudora Pro has been "broken"
GCS for several versions now).
And Eudora Pro with PGP support was not sold outside the US
when I was looking for a new mailer in 98.
So they
Why is that an absolutely annoying overhead? PGP works best if
everyone has easy access to your public key...
AM Suppose everyone using PGP were to adopt your policy. 10 people like you
AM would add an extra second to my download time and the time factor builds up.
I agree with Allie and
tracer wrote...
t I think under windows 2000 it will do japanese... It does chinese even
t if I cannot read it
t If you can send me some Japanese I can read it with the japanese fonts
t snapshot them and send them back to see if it IS
t japanese...
The problem with Japanese is that there
Keith wrote...
KR On Thursday, 27 January, 2000, 7:35:11 AM, Mark wrote:
Checked out Datula from the link on your site, very nice MUA, just
need to learn Japanese now:-) Do you know if they plan an English
interface?
KR Agreed. I also enjoyed the rest of your Web site; it made me
Jast wrote...
The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I have to do so manually.
I can't find any setting that would affect this behavior.
J What are the setting is your Options|NetworkAdministration window? It's a
J wild guess, but since you have a permanent connection it might help
Hi there!
On 27 Jan 00, at 12:42, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: Why do I use The Bat?":
Steve, you are clearly worth the 0 mark in Math;-) Pi has never changed, it's
the people who measured it;-)
Nope, it is how it has been measured through the years.
That's what I ment.
Of
Hi there!
On 27 Jan 00, at 13:52, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: PGP Bug?":
I fully support the suggestion of Steve. BTW, AFAIK this is already on the
wishlist (?). This technique has proved to be quite useful I'd say. It's one of the
pretty useful and pretty standard things that TB doesn't
You know, I just realized why this never occured to me and why I don't
like using it. CNTL-F4 is the windows standard for closing a subwindow of an
application. :/
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ICQ: 5107343 | main
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 2:04:08 PM, Alexander wrote:
I fully support the suggestion of Steve. BTW, AFAIK this is already on the
wishlist (?). This technique has proved to be quite useful I'd say. It's one of the
pretty useful and pretty standard things that TB doesn't support yet but the
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:04:08 +0300, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
I fully support the suggestion of Steve. BTW, AFAIK this is already on the
wishlist (?). This technique has proved to be quite useful I'd say. It's
one of the pretty useful and pretty standard things that TB doesn't
support yet
Hi there!
On 27 Jan 00, at 14:10, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: PGP Bug?":
I fully support the suggestion of Steve. BTW, AFAIK this is already on the
wishlist (?). This technique has proved to be quite useful I'd say. It's one of
the
pretty useful and pretty standard things that TB
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:04:39 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
You know, I just realized why this never occured to me and why I don't
like using it. CNTL-F4 is the windows standard for closing a subwindow of an
application. :/
Quite right, now that I've checked.
In the case of TB!,
I wrote...
JDH I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but
JDH for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I
JDH have to do so manually.
It now works properly. After setting up TheBat for the first
time, I had never actually closed
SL You know, I just realized why this never occured to me and why I don't
SL like using it. CNTL-F4 is the windows standard for closing a subwindow of an
SL application. :/
(Yeah I pointed that out during our previous dead horse. ;)
Remappable keystrokes can't come too soon! Turning
Thursday, January 27, 2000, 3:32:41 PM, Tom wrote:
Remappable keystrokes can't come too soon! Turning off quicksearch
entirely is my most desired feature (well, ok, second next to toggling
virtual space)...
You know, I've never seen quicksearch. *shrug*
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Hi there!
On 27 Jan 00, at 17:57, Allie Martin wrote
about "Re: PGP Bug?":
I fully support the suggestion of Steve. BTW, AFAIK this is already on the
wishlist (?). This technique has proved to be quite useful I'd say. It's
one of the pretty useful and pretty standard things that TB
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:16:31 +0900, John De Hoog wrote:
It now works properly. After setting up TheBat for the first time, I had
never actually closed down the program. I tried exiting and then
restarting, and now it checks mail automatically just fine. Thanks for all
the help. (Does this
Hello tracer,
On Thursday, January 27, 2000 at 22:28:46 GMT +0700 (which was
28/01/2000 22:28 GMT + 0700 my Local Time) you told to the list:
t Syafril, haver you installed the chinese option as well?
Not yet, but still in my other partision (I am dual boot, NT2000 and
Hello John,
On Thursday, January 27, 2000 at 08:16:31 GMT +0900 (which was 3:16 PM where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
I wrote...
JDH I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but
JDH for some reason The Bat won't check for new mail automatically. I
JDH have
Hi Syafril,
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:21:24 +0700GMT (28/01/2000, 09:21 +0800GMT),
Syafril Hermansyah wrote:
t Thai works... Even in Notepad, Wordpad.
Tracer, isn't your Windows Thai? g Seriously, the way I understand
you (and Unicode) is that "all" languages are there in W2K. Wouldn't
that be a
Januk wrote...
JA Actually this is problem that has been encountered before, but for
JA some reason it never generated much useful discussion on the list. I
JA guess not too many people can afford to leave their Internet
JA connections on long enough to verify this bug. If you don't mind
JA
Hello John,
On Thursday, January 27, 2000 at 13:26:22 GMT +0900 (which was 8:26 PM where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
JA they left TB running for more than 36 hours straight, then TB would
JA stop checking mail automatically.
Will do. I'll get back to you in another 36 hours or
Januk wrote...
JA Just out of curiosity, about how much mail do you download in a
JA typical 36 hours straight? The reason I ask is, the other person who
JA complained about this bug was downloading upwards of 1000 messages a
JA day. I'm wondering if perhaps The Bat encounters some upward
On Thursday, January 27, 2000, 5:09:26 AM, Allie Martin wrote:
b) Why not let it do searches by dynamic elimination. By this I mean, the
message list only lists messages satisfying the search string and as you
type each new character the list is updated. When you're finished only the
JA Actually this is problem that has been encountered before, but for
JA some reason it never generated much useful discussion on the list. I
JA guess not too many people can afford to leave their Internet
JA connections on long enough to verify this bug.
JDH Will do. I'll get back to you
Hello, Bat users,
Most email clients allow you to select just part of a message before
you hit Reply, with only the selected part showing up as the quoted
text. TB seems to be missing that function, or is there an easy
way to do it that I haven't discovered?
With Agent, Eudora, and
Steve wrote...
SL On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 03:30:25PM +0900, John De Hoog wrote:
I tend to prefer the former approach, which is easy and more widely
used.
SL The problem is that it makes the assumption that if text is marked then
SL you want to use it for a reply. That is not the only
Hello John De Hoog,
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:16:31 +0900 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 28, 2000, 6:16:31 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
John De Hoog wrote:
I wrote...
JDH I have a permanent Internet connection, so no dialup problems, but
JDH for some reason The Bat won't
Hello Tom Plunket,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:32:41 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 28, 2000, 6:32:41 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Tom Plunket wrote:
Remappable keystrokes can't come too soon! Turning off quicksearch
entirely is my most desired feature (well, ok, second next
Thomas wrote...
This is what happens when I select a text portion and hit Shift-F4 --
no text gets quoted. What's it supposed to do??
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Hello Syafril Hermansyah,
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:21:24 +0700 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 28, 2000, 8:21:24 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Syafril Hermansyah wrote:
Not yet, but still in my other partision (I am dual boot, NT2000 and
NT4W). I am using Office2000 too, and
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:30:25 +0900, John De Hoog wrote:
Most email clients allow you to select just part of a message before
you hit Reply, with only the selected part showing up as the quoted
text. TB seems to be missing that function, or is there an easy
way to do it that I haven't
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:07:12 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote:
That sounds like a great idea. I never played much with this applet, but
with mine I notice that as I type, it seems to search for the subject, yet
if I type in a name, then it will highlight the thread that contains the
first message
Hello Thomas Fernandez,
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:20:35 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 28, 2000, 11:20:35 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Tracer, isn't your Windows Thai? g Seriously, the way I understand
you (and Unicode) is that "all" languages are
Hi John,
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:48:06 +0900GMT (28/01/2000, 14:48 +0800GMT),
John De Hoog wrote:
JDH The Datula approach, though, has the advantage of letting you select
JDH text, open the context menu on it and decide what to do, with one
JDH option being to reply to that portion
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:53:17 +0900, John De Hoog wrote:
This is what happens when I select a text portion and hit Shift-F4 -- no
text gets quoted. What's it supposed to do??
It did what it is supposed to:
F4 - Reply quoting selected text
Shift+F4 - Reply without quotation
Ctrl+F4 -
Allie wrote...
AM That'd be F4 or right-click on the message, go to specials and it's
AM there "reply quoting using selected text".
That's it, F4! Thanks! This is a fine solution, and another example of
how well thought out a program it is.
--
Yours,
John De Hoog, Tokyo
http://wonmug.com
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:07:20 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Sorry, mistake in my previous message. This is correct:
shift-F4 : reply without any quotes.
F4 (only): reply quoting marked text (I just used it).
cntrl-F4 : reply quoting all.
^
Err.
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