[Vo]:Spark Decomposition of hydrocarbons

2012-06-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
Hey Gang, I found a paper which seems to summarize the many methods for the efficient decomposition of Hydrocarbons to H2 and carbon and carbon nanotubes - all of which may be critical ingredients in the Flat Plate/Propane based systems that many have had success with. http://www.sciencedirect

Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023

2012-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Robert Lynn's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:40:14 +0100: Hi, [snip] >http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/12/micro-fusion-for-space-propulsion-and.html At least two differences. 1) There is no explosion, but rather a continuous burn. 2) There is only very minimal photon production (when fre

Re: [Fwd: [Vo]:Some clarifications by D.Bushnell on LENR funding @ LaRC]

2012-06-06 Thread Terry Blanton
PET theories, gotta luv 'em. T

Re: [Vo]:Some clarifications by D.Bushnell on LENR funding @ LaRC]

2012-06-06 Thread integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
From the lips of Rossi, "I am very practical: I am not at all interested to theories of “gurus” who explain theories more or less TCL ( time-consuming-and-losing). I am exclusively interested to apparatuses able to work. In our field we are too much filled up with theorists who write stupiditi

[Vo]:OFF TOPIC Dead bodies on Mt. Everest

2012-06-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
See ghoulish photos: http://www.buzzfeed.com/toddvanluling/dead-bodies-on-mount-everest It is amazing what people will do. This is an example of the extremes they will go to. - Jed

Re: [Fwd: [Vo]:Some clarifications by D.Bushnell on LENR funding @ LaRC]

2012-06-06 Thread integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
Ah, "Addressing five decades of debate, Stanford engineers determine how collective electron oscillations, called plasmons, behave in individual metal particles as small as just a few nanometers in diameter. This knowledge may open up new avenues in nanotechnology ranging from solar catal

Re: [Vo]:Some clarifications by D.Bushnell on LENR funding @ LaRC]

2012-06-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
Is it just me or does it seem that the numbers don't add up? In SSM, COP should be infinite (or at least some ridiculously high number.) And if he is running SSM 50% of the time, his overall COP should be significantly higher than 6. The only way for him to get an overall COP of 6 is if his D

Re: [Fwd: [Vo]:Some clarifications by D.Bushnell on LENR funding @ LaRC]

2012-06-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:59 PM, integral.property.serv...@gmail.com wrote: > Rossi update, > > "The SSM (self sustained mode) is regulated by the control system based on a > complex interaction between parameters. The longest period can be 2 hours, > as an average the self sustained mode runs for

[Fwd: [Vo]:Some clarifications by D.Bushnell on LENR funding @ LaRC]

2012-06-06 Thread integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
Rossi update, "The SSM (self sustained mode) is regulated by the control system based on a complex interaction between parameters. The longest period can be 2 hours, as an average the self sustained mode runs for the 50% of the total time. The ionizing electromagnetic emissions have no substan

[Vo]:Some clarifications by D.Bushnell on LENR funding @ LaRC

2012-06-06 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, Have a read at this blogpost from nasawatch.com (it's not a NASA website although its name might suggest otherwise to some). While its owner has a generally quite negative stance against LENR/CF, his questions and their answers provided by Dennis Bushnell, LaRC Chief Scientist, ha

Re: [Vo]:Ray Bradbury died

2012-06-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Terry Blanton > > There's an anecdote that Bradbury once bet L. Ron Hubbard that he > could not create a religion that would be recognized by the IRS.  If > true, I'm sure that Ray is paying Ron off somewhere i

Re: [Vo]:Mills Hyrdrino project (was :about Triumph Management (and LENR))

2012-06-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
I will study the BLP website and hydrino "proof" that you are alluding to, although my reading list is quite long at this time. I am concentrating my study on theoritical avenues that are more promising and my actual replication attempts. Axil's charge accumulation ideas are much more promisi

Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023

2012-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Robert Lynn's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:49:45 +0100: Hi, [snip] >Sadly I do understand, I am just not blind to the implied engineering >requirements. *40MW/kg !* The highest power to weight machines >(outside of bombs) that humans have ever build were the space shuttle main >

Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lynn
Like Friedwart Winterberg's Supermarx concept? http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/12/micro-fusion-for-space-propulsion-and.html I really like the concept, but there is still no way that it can achieve the power to weight required to give 1g at 7.5e6m/s Isp. Heat loads and driver power requirements are

[Vo]:what's going on and on and on, from void to smudge to diamond...: Rich Murray 2012.06.06

2012-06-06 Thread Rich Murray
what's going on and on and on, from void to smudge to diamond...: Rich Murray 2012.06.06 Eternal Exponential Expansion of Science http://www.rationalskepticism.org/post1342135.html#p1342135 Thank you Chrisw, for your reasonable consideration. I often, as an informal hobby, note all the surpris

RE: [Vo]:Ray Bradbury died

2012-06-06 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton There's an anecdote that Bradbury once bet L. Ron Hubbard that he could not create a religion that would be recognized by the IRS. If true, I'm sure that Ray is paying Ron off somewhere in that great somewhere. "Stranger in a Strange Land" was one

Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023

2012-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Robert Lynn's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:49:45 +0100: Hi, [snip] > That is a luxury you do not have >with fusion in an ultra-high Isp engine. It is also a luxury you don't need. The trick is to perform the reaction in space itself. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.f

Re: [Vo]:Ray Bradbury died

2012-06-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Michele Comitini wrote: > http://www.salon.com/2012/06/06/ray_bradbury_american_optimist/singleton/ There's an anecdote that Bradbury once bet L. Ron Hubbard that he could not create a religion that would be recognized by the IRS. If true, I'm sure that Ray is pay

Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lynn
Sadly I do understand, I am just not blind to the implied engineering requirements. *40MW/kg !* The highest power to weight machines (outside of bombs) that humans have ever build were the space shuttle main engines, they did about 3MW/kg utilising a supply of LH2, the best possible coolant,

Re: [Vo]:Mills Hyrdrino project (was :about Triumph Management (and LENR))

2012-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Jojo Jaro's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:46:06 +0800: Hi, [snip] >Robin, let me see if I got this right. Sorry, no. > >1. Your machine (proposed machine) will take H2 (Hydrogen Molecule) and >convert it to Hy2 (hydrino molecule.). Theoritically you can do this in >copious amount

[Vo]:Ray Bradbury died

2012-06-06 Thread Michele Comitini
http://www.salon.com/2012/06/06/ray_bradbury_american_optimist/singleton/

Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023

2012-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Robert Lynn's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:55:31 +0100: Hi, [snip] You don't understand the nature of technological breakthroughs do you. >I'm sorry, but as an engineer if you imagine that you can build a fusion >powered spacecraft with an exhaust velocity of 7.5e6m/s and 40MW of e

Re: [Vo]:Transit of Venus - Live Stream

2012-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
I didn't think it would be enough, but a story on da web said it was a safe way to observe the transit. harry On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Robert wrote: > I used a pair of binoculars to project the image of the transit on to a dark > surface. With a bit of eyepiece-focusing, the transit was

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
This experiment is designed to see if neutrons can decay without emitting neutrinos. http://media.caltech.edu/press_releases/13520 If neutrons can that would conflict with the standard model. harry On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:08 PM, David Roberson wrote: > Does anyone accept the quark model for t

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread David Roberson
Does anyone accept the quark model for the neutron? I find it hard to reconcile anything of that nature with a three layer model. I would think that by now with all of the super accelerators that this would be well defined. Dave -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder To: vortex-l

RE: [Vo]:Hydrinos and Kervran - the perfect Ni-H metaphor

2012-06-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Interesting to consider the possibility that bio-transmutation might contribute to thermo-regulation (maintaining a consistent body temperature); and what happens when one has a fever, how is that transmutation rate throttled up and down? Do cold-blooded animals lack this transmutation process???

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Based on evidence, the neutron is believed to be comprised of positive core surrounded by a negative shell: http://www.terra.es/personal/gsardin/news13.htm However in recent years there is evidence which suggests the neutron is comprised of three layers: a central negative core which is surrounded

RE: [Vo]:Mills Hyrdrino project (was :about Triumph Management (and LENR))

2012-06-06 Thread Mike Carrell
The basic problem that Mills has had is in producing an attractive COP in a commercial package. He probably has achieved this with CUHT as described on the current website. Robin appears to seek the fusion path with a H[1/127] pseudo-neutron. While Mills has reported spectroscopic evidence of H[1/1

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread David Roberson
Of course, we all want to eat. Before the dust settles there may be even more species of people to feed. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2012 3:24 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR) On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:20 AM, A

RE: [Vo]:Mills Hyrdrino project (was :about Triumph Management (and LENR))

2012-06-06 Thread Mike Carrell
The simple, and correct thing to do is *study*the current BLP website, particularly the 'technical presentation', the FAQ, etc. There is more than ample proof of the physical existence of the hydrino state listed. There is no point in trying to create a HE version of a hydrino, although such might

Re: [Vo]:Mills Hyrdrino project (was :about Triumph Management (and LENR))

2012-06-06 Thread David Roberson
Thanks Robin, I did not realize that you were starting with the molecules. Now it adds up. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent To: vortex-l Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2012 3:09 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mills Hyrdrino project (was :about Triumph Management (and LENR)) In reply to David Ro

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread David Roberson
I guess one could look at a neutron as being similar to a proton plus an electron but I am not sure that the exact analogy holds up under scrutiny. For one thing, when a neutron decays you get more out of it than the electron and proton. There is a pesky antineutrino and a substantial amount

Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023

2012-06-06 Thread LORENHEYER
I say, why waste time going to Mars, when you can shoot for the stars! We need to set our goals and/or expectations higher or farther actually. While it would be a very cool thing to have some fellow Humans residing on Mars, it's getting there in a vastly improved capacity that will enable any

Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lynn
I'm sorry, but as an engineer if you imagine that you can build a fusion powered spacecraft with an exhaust velocity of 7.5e6m/s and 40MW of engine power per kg of spacecraft (from rocket equation with 20% fuel use in 2 days at 1g thrust), when nobody can yet build a viable self sustaining fusion r

PioneerOne was Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023

2012-06-06 Thread Michele Comitini
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Re: [Vo]:Mills Hyrdrino project (was :about Triumph Management (and LENR))

2012-06-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
Robin, let me see if I got this right. 1. Your machine (proposed machine) will take H2 (Hydrogen Molecule) and convert it to Hy2 (hydrino molecule.). Theoritically you can do this in copious amounts with an output of energy. 2. Then, you take the Hy2 molecule and split it into Hy+ and Hy+

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 00:24:05 -0700: Hi, [snip] >I also realize there's a third species of people -- Hydrino people. I'm >sure they want something for free too. No, the Hydrino people want to give you some extra for the privilege. ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 03:20:33 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I wonder if this assumption is correct. > >In superconductivity, you get electrons to bind together by reducing the >temperature of the material to very low temperatures; you remove energy. > >The cooper pair of electro

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:46:07 -0400 (EDT): Hi Dave, [snip] > >Robin, I would think the velocity of the proton of the same energy as compared >to an electron would be the square root of 2000 or 45 times slower due to the >velocity squared relationship. You ar

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > You might need to take energy away from the nucleus to lower its coulomb > barrier. > You make an excellent point. I misstated what I meant to say -- the proton people want to overcome Coulomb repulsion for free. I also realize there's a thir

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread Axil Axil
I wonder if this assumption is correct. In superconductivity, you get electrons to bind together by reducing the temperature of the material to very low temperatures; you remove energy. The cooper pair of electrons have less energy than their precursor quasiparticles. You might need to take ener

Re: [Vo]:Mills Hyrdrino project (was :about Triumph Management (and LENR))

2012-06-06 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:54:53 -0400 (EDT): Hi Dave, [snip] > >I must not understand the hydrino concept very well Robin. I thought that the >hydrinos formed by releasing energy into some other catalyst. Is this in >error? No, that's correct. In fact even in

Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)

2012-06-06 Thread Axil Axil
To get a idea about the speed of the proton, it might be possible to make a comparison with the speed of the neutron at various temperature. This might be OK because the proton and the neutron are about the same size and weight. The neutron is just a proton and an electron together…Right! 2000K