[Xastir] Pi scripts

2018-05-13 Thread Dexter N Muir
Lee, FYI    I've just updated my Kubuntu install at the rest home (I spend a week there each couple of months - respite for my wife). The update invalidated the previous install, so it was a necessity.    Your Pi scripts could use an update: I copied the if - fi block for xenial 16.04 and re

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 495, Issue 1

2018-05-05 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 01/05/18 15:18, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: ... This will also happen if you leave off the "https://";, because github will assume ssh:// I eventually tried that (Lee's build scripts not working) and it let me though so I could download the .zip. ... http:// didn't work either, s

[Xastir] Raspberry Pi 'Stretch'- Maps ...

2017-11-04 Thread Dexter N Muir
I followed my usual method: Lee's (175moonlight.com) script. His latest says it works on Wheezy and Jessie. I already have that and it worked well. The binary it produced worked through an online upgrade from Jessie to Stretch - but that threw out some other stuff I was doing, so I did a full r

Re: [Xastir] RasPi upgrade continued ...

2017-08-30 Thread Dexter N Muir
xastir 2.0.9 on Raspbian Stretch ... Build it and leave it running (overnight?). Go back and find Panel disappeared! I want (and should be able) to use my Pi3 for other things, too! I'd thought my build (originally from script defaulted to Wheezy) might have been at fault, but I completely d

[Xastir] RasPi upgrade continued ...

2017-08-27 Thread Dexter N Muir
More to the saga. I'd thought the disappeary-most of the Panel might have been my Pi's setup - I'd set the screen resolution via the Configuration Manager to CEA Mode 31. I found /boot/config.txt set to this where I'd usually set it *there* to mode 16. The difference is only 60Hz vs 50Hz, so th

[Xastir] What happened?

2017-08-26 Thread Dexter N Muir
I haven't been paying particular attention here, and meanwhile Raspbian has been upgraded to "Stretch". The auto-build git script from 175moonlight.com (for Wheezy and Jessie) builds fine (once you remove the "5.1" from the libdb entry - that hasn't been needed for years, on any platform AFAIK)

Re: [Xastir] Map Fonts

2017-03-14 Thread Dexter N Muir
From: Jason KG4WSV To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] Map Fonts Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Not sure what a "balloon" font is. The default is a courier-like font, IIRC. I suspect what you are seeing is the font outline/backgro

Re: [Xastir] Installing Xastir on Raspberry Pi Model 2B

2016-12-12 Thread Dexter N Muir
How about fresh pi(e)? Fresh SD card, Raspbian (or NOOBS and then Raspbian, build-essential,Lee's script (http://www.175moonlight.com/xastir/raspbian-xastir-git-build.sh - haven't looked lately, may itself do all the 'essential' bits of build-essential). I run mine 'net-only. One of these days

Re: [Xastir] Installing Xastir on Raspberry Pi Model 2B

2016-12-12 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 13/12/16 09:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Message: 4 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:44:34 + From: David Brooke G6GZH To:xastir@lists.xastir.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] Installing Xastir on Raspberry Pi Model 2B Message-ID:<20161212194434.ga26...@cubitt.dbrooke.me.uk> Content-Type:

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 332, Issue 1

2016-09-30 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 01/10/16 08:00, Lee Bengston wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Joel Vazquez, AE4SR < ae4sr.radi...@gmail.com> wrote: >Thanks Lee for the reply, >I check the conf file and the entries are the same, just as yours. I >delete the file from/usr/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/ . > >?OK,

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 329, Issue 1

2016-09-19 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 20/09/16 07:00, David A Aitcheson on xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: D.) All of the above. A, me heaties, Ye've the right of it. Dex,ZL2DEX ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xasti

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 322, Issue 1

2016-09-03 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 04/09/16 07:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Message: 3 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 16:43:53 -0700 From: David Ranch To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] log file archiving documentation - for, Raspian/Debian/Ubuntu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/pla

Re: [Xastir] log file archiving documentation - for, Raspian/Debian/Ubuntu

2016-09-02 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 03/09/16 07:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:52:41 -0500 From: Steven Morrison To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] log file archiving documentation - for Raspian/Debian/Ubuntu Message-ID: <56af3da9-6773-cc2d-bdab-25c

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 318, Issue 1

2016-08-24 Thread Dexter N Muir
n replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xastir digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Xastir Digest, Vol 317, Issue 1 (Dexter N Muir) 2. Re: Rebuild (Jason KG4WSV) 3. Re: Xastir Digest, Vol 317, Issue 1 (Liz) -

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 317, Issue 1

2016-08-23 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 24/08/16 07:00, Liz wrote: My first guess is that you have not edited /etc/apt/sources This file contains a list of repositories from which you retrieve your basic programs like the build-essential set. Happy to converse by private mail if requested Liz VK2XSE Thanks Liz. Tried taking

[Xastir] Rebuild

2016-08-22 Thread Dexter N Muir
Hi all This is quite likely a 'newbie' question, but with history. My system is Kubuntu amd64, originally installed as 14.04 and upgraded. I had bypassed the login prompt, being the only computer-literate denizen, but have since added eldest grandson to the household. Somewhere along the

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 293, Issue 2

2016-07-15 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 16/07/16 07:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Send Xastir mailing list submissions to xastir@lists.xastir.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help

Re: [Xastir] Move to git/hub

2016-07-07 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 08/07/16 07:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Tom Russo wrote: >As announced a couple of months ago, Curt and I have been talking about >moving >Xastir version control over to github, and discontinuing use of sourceforge >and CVS for hosting the mai

[Xastir] Starting xastir

2016-05-18 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 19/05/16 11:45, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Message: 7 Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:45:20 -0600 From: Tom Russo To: Norm McMillan Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] Starting xastir. Message-ID:<20160518234520.ga...@bogodyn.org> Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [Xastir] HowTo

2016-04-26 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 27/04/16 07:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Message: 4 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 22:08:02 +0200 From: Lasse To:xastir@lists.xastir.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] HowTo Message-ID:<571e7922.4040...@ebnett.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed On 25. april 2016

Re: [Xastir] Raspberry PI B ...

2016-04-19 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 20/04/16 07:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Raspberry PI B, Rasbian Jessie, and Xastir = 100% cpu (davidf4) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 19:09:14 -0700 From

[Xastir] icles

2016-04-06 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 07/04/16 04:35, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Send Xastir mailing list submissions to xastir@lists.xastir.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help

Re: [Xastir] ADS-B (planes)

2016-03-11 Thread Dexter N Muir
Y'know I'm left wondering: Why 'planes? I mean, xastir - and APRS - is great for activity reporting and hazard alerts - fire, flood, quake etc - even its under-utilised messaging, particularly in SAR activity - but why aircraft? I'd think anyone wanting to watch them would have hardware to get

[Xastir] aprs.fi: not impressed!

2016-03-04 Thread Dexter N Muir
Recent change put navigation and Street-view homunculus bottom-left. Not too bad in itself, but it reduced granularity of pan to 90deg quadrants. No, I'm not impressed at all :( . Anyone got any tips on getting smooth pan? ___ Xastir mailing list Xasti

Re: [Xastir] Darn, Drat and Oh Dear!

2016-02-10 Thread Dexter N Muir
nce it loads up, copy and paste the output sent to the terminal window so we can help you diagnose the issue. --David KI6ZHD On 02/09/2016 08:05 PM, Dexter N Muir wrote: Clean install of latest Raspbian (Jessie) won't display raster maps and Chooser has no onlines. Another screw-around of xMagi

[Xastir] Darn, Drat and Oh Dear!

2016-02-09 Thread Dexter N Muir
Clean install of latest Raspbian (Jessie) won't display raster maps and Chooser has no onlines. Another screw-around of xMagick? This is getting beyond a joke! :( ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir

Re: [Xastir] RasPi make install error?

2016-01-15 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 16/01/16 06:00, Tom Russo wrote: It's because your xastir config file is left over from when you were using the package-installed version. Now that you're using a source-built version, all the paths in that file are wrong. You can either hand-edit .xastir/config/xastir.cnf to fix all the b

[Xastir] RasPi make install error?

2016-01-14 Thread Dexter N Muir
Me again. make install has put xastir under /usr/local, so why this error? XReadBitmapFile() failed: Bitmap not found? /usr/share/xastir/symbols/2x2.xbm It's present at /usr/local/share/xastir/symbols/2x2.xbm Mystery ... especially since I've had it running ... 73 Dex, ZL2DEX _

Re: [Xastir] Raspbian and Kubuntu builds - JOY!

2016-01-14 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 15/01/16 06:00, Lee Bengston wrote: Thanks for the report! Once the graphicsmagick/webp issue was identified it was relatively easy to get the scripts updated. Given Wheezy is "older than stable", I probably won't bother with it. Lee - K5DAT Fair enough, Lee, but I'm keeping the older s

Re: [Xastir] Raspbian and Kubuntu builds - JOY!

2016-01-11 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 12/01/16 06:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:49:10 -0500 From: Lee Bengston To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: [Xastir] Xastir build scripts Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 http://www.175moonlig

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 199, Issue 1

2016-01-08 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 09/01/16 06:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: >I'm sure you will find sudo is installed on a standard Debian install - >I've done many of them. >But you need to set it up. Not every install should have sudo >operational for the first user installed, although it can be handy at >home

Re: [Xastir] Kubuntu _and_ Raspberry Pi build fails

2016-01-07 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 07/01/16 17:13, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 23:13:50 -0500 From: Lee Bengston To: Tom Russo, Xastir - APRS client software discussion, Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] Kubuntu_and_ Raspberry Pi build

Re: [Xastir] Kubuntu _and_ Raspberry Pi build fails - Debian attempt

2016-01-06 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 23/12/15 06:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:51:45 +1300 From: Dexter N Muir To:xastir@lists.xastir.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] Kubuntu_and_ Raspberry Pi build fails Message-ID:<5678c8d1.7070...@xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8;

Re: [Xastir] Kubuntu_and_ Raspberry Pi build fails

2015-12-24 Thread Dexter N Muir
Continuing the saga: > The 8GB stick doesn't have enough room to upgrade to 15.10, so I'm >about to create a 15.04 on a HD partition which will. That will tell me >if a 15.04 build will run in 15.10 (will it use the upgraded runtime >libs?). Yep, the 15.04 build runs fine using 15.10

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 186, Issue 1

2015-12-22 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 23/12/15 06:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:51:45 +1300 From: Dexter N Muir To:xastir@lists.xastir.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] Kubuntu_and_ Raspberry Pi build fails Message-ID:<5678c8d1.7070...@xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8;

Re: [Xastir] Kubuntu _and_ Raspberry Pi build fails

2015-12-21 Thread Dexter N Muir
More to the story, folks. It's been a while, but I'm still on the case. I went through a laborious process: clear off a 4GB USB stick for mkusb to create a Kubuntu 15.04 stick (non-persistent) to then create a persistent 15.04 USB stick (8MB, which left me enough room to play. It has all I

[Xastir] Build fails reprise

2015-11-20 Thread Dexter N Muir
Me yet again... Okey folkies 1. "Jessie" _IS_ Raspbian. your reliable builds are using the outdated Wheezy. Start with a new SD Card, get the *latest* OS from raspberrypi.org and the script from 175moonlight (see back in the archive), and try again. It may still require version number rem

[Xastir] More to the build fails

2015-11-19 Thread Dexter N Muir
Me again... Am I on the "Bleeding Edge" here? I've seen no feedback from (other K)Ubuntu Hams, which surprises me given surveys that show Ubuntu with the largest share of Linux user-base. No-one using Debian (supposedly the earliest supporter of Ham Radio in the Linux world.? ...or

Re: [Xastir] build fails

2015-11-18 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 19/11/15 06:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:49:25 -0800 From: David Ranch To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] Kubuntu_and_ Raspberry Pi build fails Message-ID:<564bbd05.60...@trinnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=w

[Xastir] Kubuntu _and_ Raspberry Pi build fails

2015-11-17 Thread Dexter N Muir
Both builds fail, Kubi-wan is 15.10 amd64, Raspi is Jessie. Both fully updated. Here's the relevant excerpt and result of ./configure. checking gdal.h presence... no checking for gdal.h... no checking if db.h is exists and is usable... yes checking for a library containing db_create... -ldb

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 155, Issue 1

2015-11-01 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 02/11/15 06:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:31:38 -0600 From: km5vy Tom Russo To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] libxp and Xastir Message-ID:<20151031213138.ga84...@bogodyn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii O

Re: [Xastir] libxp and Xastir

2015-10-31 Thread Dexter N Muir
When run from terminal this shows: Built-in map types: gnis USGS GNIS Datapoints pop USGS GNIS Datapoints w/population map APRSdos Maps map WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps pdb PocketAPRS Maps Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:

Re: [Xastir] libxp and Xastir

2015-10-31 Thread Dexter N Muir
Latest: Having successfully compiled on Raspbian Jessie (Required removal of tcl's version number), I came back, removed libxp-dev from the script's list, and successfully compiled. All up and running, BUT Like Raspbian, map issues. This time Onlines present and selectable, but my usual m

[Xastir] Raspberry Pi

2015-10-31 Thread Dexter N Muir
Me yet again! The tcllib was the culprit, but indirectly. Another case of version number not needed (in fact obstructive!): tcl (8.6 in repo, 8.4 in script.) Must check the ubuntu script ... Not needed there - must be done elsewise in system. Well on the way now ... configuring 2.0.7 ...

[Xastir] Raspberry Pi

2015-10-30 Thread Dexter N Muir
Me again! I've been running xastir on a Raspberry Pi. I recently upgraded (?) to raspbian Jessie ( from Wheezy), and it's giving me grief with the build script. The script that worked flawlessly in Wheezy now finds the Jessie repo OK, and the first error was libdb-dev (5.1 in the script, n

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 153, Issue 1

2015-10-30 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 31/10/15 05:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:17:56 -0400 From: Lee Bengston To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] libxp and Xastir Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I wrote that script, but the last

Re: [Xastir] libxp and Xastir

2015-10-29 Thread Dexter N Muir
Addendum: 'quickie script' is ubuntu-xastir-cvsbuild.sh from 175moonlight.com IIRC. Update is copy top block if...fi, edit name and number (in this block only, don't replace-all). Last instance of name seems to be non-critical, at least in Kubuntu, but may be needed elsewhere. Also, libdb no lo

Re: [Xastir] libxp and Xastir

2015-10-29 Thread Dexter N Muir
Addendum: 'quickie script' is ubuntu-xastir-cvsbuild.sh from 175moonlight.com IIRC. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Digest, Vol 152, Issue 1

2015-10-29 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 30/10/15 05:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: From: N9JCA Chris Matthews To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] CVS install on (K)ubuntu 15.10 Message-ID:<56319ac4.9010...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Try this

[Xastir] CVS install on (K)ubuntu 15.10

2015-10-28 Thread Dexter N Muir
Greetings! CVS 'quickie' script from HowTo (updated here for 15.10 / Wily) falls over looking for libxt-dev. Can't find it on the 'net. Where to? Hopefully... Dex, ZL2DEX ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/m

Re: [Xastir] Icon

2015-02-02 Thread Dexter N Muir
, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Dexter N Muir wrote: Your update will be eagerly awaited. Meanwhile, my CVS build was working fine until reboot, then zilch I looked at permissions, and all seemed OK, but still nothing. Finally inspiration: ownership. The working system was post build, and

Re: [Xastir] Icon

2015-01-24 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 25/01/15 18:30, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 01:03:47PM +1100, Liz wrote: For my additional information, the apt system can give you the maintainer - easy if you use synaptic, but the packages pages also give the maintainers https://packages.debian.org/jessie/xastir

Re: [Xastir] Icon

2015-01-24 Thread Dexter N Muir
Hi again all, and thanks! Following Liz's pointers, I found a CVS install script, got it, chmod +x and ran it, and now have 2.0.7 installed and running. 'sudo apt-get remove xastir' took the old repo package out, and editing the desktop file to point to /usr/local with icon put all to righ

Re: [Xastir] Icon

2015-01-23 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 24/01/15 06:00, xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Tom Russo To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] Icon Message-ID:<20150123061414.ga8...@bogodyn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 08:59:43AM +1300, we recorded a bogon-com

[Xastir] Icon

2015-01-22 Thread Dexter N Muir
Greetings from an oddball... I run xastir 24/7 on a Raspberry Pi (for its low power usage!). The latest update to Raspbian/NOOBS re-organised the menus, so I had to re-create a .desktop file. No real problem there, until... Where's an icon??? I've stumbled here a few times now in various

[Xastir] History

2014-06-22 Thread Dexter N Muir
Hi all Used to be there were 2 nz servers: first.aprs.net.nz and second.aprs.net.nz first.aprs.net.nz disappeared a while ago, and this morning I find second.aprs.net.nz gone as well. The only nz server active at present seems to be aprsnz.aprs2.net first.aprs.net.nz returns an empty htm

[Xastir] (K)ubuntu cvs-build on 13.04?

2013-05-03 Thread Dexter N Muir
Howdy all! My last cvs build was on 12.04 (precise), using the ubuntu-xastir-cvsbuild.sh script. Upgrading to 13.04 (amd64), I thought I'd do a fresh build, so I looked for an updated script - no luck. Thinking most of the basics should be in repository, I replaced the 12.04 and precise re

Re: [Xastir] Filters

2012-10-19 Thread Dexter N Muir
On 20/10/2012 4:27 p.m., xastir-requ...@lists.xastir.org wrote: Send Xastir mailing list submissions to xastir@lists.xastir.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir or, via email, send a message with sub

[Xastir] Another track glitch?/feature, ongoing

2011-10-02 Thread Dexter N Muir
Greetings! Now with latest 2.0.1 via cvs, but this noticed on first try, back in 1.8.x days, now with Debian, but does it on Mandrake and ubuntu too: Track a station that is NOT on screen, track draws from requested start time to last / current position. Good clean track. Track

Re: [Xastir] Improvements

2011-06-16 Thread Dexter N Muir
Tom Russo wrote: Message: 2 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:07:47 -0600 From: Tom Russo To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Subject: Re: [Xastir] Improvements Message-ID: <20110613000747.ga37...@bogodyn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:52:38AM +120

[Xastir] Improvements

2011-06-12 Thread Dexter N Muir
Greetings, all! Wonderful program. I'm running it in Kubuntu (11.4), in a VirtualBox machine (M$ VM too durn slow!), under Xp on an hp Pavilion 713a (2GHz P4) with 1.5GB RAM (512kB for the VM runs it a little slow, but all else run OK). No RF at the QTH, but it lets me keep an eye on activity v

Re: [Xastir] 1.9.5 on mandriva 2009.1

2009-08-30 Thread Dexter N Muir
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:50:35 -0500 From: Lee Bengston Subject: Re: [Xastir] 1.9.5 on mandriva 2009.1 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 8/30/09, Dexter N Muir wrote: >Mdv2009.1 has no graphicsmag

[Xastir] 1.9.5 on mandriva 2009.1

2009-08-30 Thread Dexter N Muir
Greetings, all. Had a disaster just as I moved house, so it's been a while. Previously built 1.9.5 on mdv2008 with much help, mostly with magick (thanks, folks!). lost it all to a crash, and now trying to build on a fresh install of mdv2009.1. I note there is a for under way for qt instead