Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Happy to know that, those tricks are work very well.

So, a happy commenting

Did you try the track changes then?

I haven't tried on 2016.

Hope, this same

On 4/19/19, Giri Prasad  wrote:
> Hi Pranav jee,
> your trick worked for me. Thanks for the help.
> Dear Timy,  thanks for your efforts.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 18/04/2019, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>> Thanks pranav,
>>
>> it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/18/19, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>>> Hi pranav,
>>>
>>> let me tell you the result once I install the 2016 version.
>>>
>>> anyway in 2019 I am able to do from the insert menu wen I tried
>>> yesterday.
>>>
>>> Installing  2016 now, for testing purpose.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the new update.
>>>
>>> I didn't
>>>
>>> On 4/18/19, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The trick here is to use the previous comment and next comment commands
>>>> from
>>>> the review pane of the ribbon
>>>>
>>>> They will bring focus to the comment and you can then activate the
>>>> context
>>>> menu and manipulate the comment as necessary.
>>>>
>>>> Pranav
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of
>>>> Giri
>>>> Prasad
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 10:33 AM
>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning
>>>> the disabled. 
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help
>>>>
>>>> Dear Timy,
>>>> though I place the cursor on the word that has a comment, "delete
>>>> comment
>>>> button" doesn't appear in the context menu. Any sollution?
>>>> I am using office 2016 with jaws 18.
>>>>
>>>> On 17/04/2019, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>>>>> A small correction:,
>>>>>
>>>>> For read  the current comment, focus the comment which you have added
>>>>> reasontly, then perform alt shift aphostaphy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jaws will read like this:,
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment Reference: I am fine thank you, By Timy Sebastian.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/16/19, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for add a comment in 2016 and above do the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. focus the word where you want to add a comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example:,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> suppose you want to add the comment to the word:, hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> then focus that word and, press application key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> press downarrow until jaws announce, add a comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> press enter over there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A comment pain will appear and, type the comment then, press escape
>>>>>> key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now,  focus the word which you added the comment , and, press insert
>>>>>> shift aphostaphy, for red the comment which you have added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now jaws will read like this:,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comment Reference:
>>>>>> I am fine thank you
>>>>>> By Timy Sebastian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For delete the comment:,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. focus the comment which you want to delete.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. press application key then downarrow until jaws announce, delete
>>>>>> comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> O, sorry, forgot to tell you that, how to enable the track changes in
>>>>>> jaws.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. press control shift e for enable the track changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. type something then,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now jaws read like this:,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> revision, Hi how are you?, inserted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do you want to get the  list of revision then?
>>>>&g

Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Thanks pranav,

it works.



On 4/18/19, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
> Hi pranav,
>
> let me tell you the result once I install the 2016 version.
>
> anyway in 2019 I am able to do from the insert menu wen I tried yesterday.
>
> Installing  2016 now, for testing purpose.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the new update.
>
> I didn't
>
> On 4/18/19, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The trick here is to use the previous comment and next comment commands
>> from
>> the review pane of the ribbon
>>
>> They will bring focus to the comment and you can then activate the
>> context
>> menu and manipulate the comment as necessary.
>>
>> Pranav
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of
>> Giri
>> Prasad
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 10:33 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled. 
>> Subject: Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help
>>
>> Dear Timy,
>> though I place the cursor on the word that has a comment, "delete comment
>> button" doesn't appear in the context menu. Any sollution?
>> I am using office 2016 with jaws 18.
>>
>> On 17/04/2019, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>>> A small correction:,
>>>
>>> For read  the current comment, focus the comment which you have added
>>> reasontly, then perform alt shift aphostaphy.
>>>
>>> Jaws will read like this:,
>>>
>>> Comment Reference: I am fine thank you, By Timy Sebastian.
>>>
>>> On 4/16/19, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> for add a comment in 2016 and above do the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1. focus the word where you want to add a comment.
>>>>
>>>> For example:,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> suppose you want to add the comment to the word:, hi,
>>>>
>>>> then focus that word and, press application key.
>>>>
>>>> press downarrow until jaws announce, add a comment.
>>>>
>>>> press enter over there.
>>>>
>>>> A comment pain will appear and, type the comment then, press escape
>>>> key.
>>>>
>>>> now,  focus the word which you added the comment , and, press insert
>>>> shift aphostaphy, for red the comment which you have added.
>>>>
>>>> now jaws will read like this:,
>>>>
>>>> Comment Reference:
>>>> I am fine thank you
>>>> By Timy Sebastian
>>>>
>>>> For delete the comment:,
>>>>
>>>> 1. focus the comment which you want to delete.
>>>>
>>>> 2. press application key then downarrow until jaws announce, delete
>>>> comment.
>>>>
>>>> O, sorry, forgot to tell you that, how to enable the track changes in
>>>> jaws.
>>>>
>>>> 1. press control shift e for enable the track changes.
>>>>
>>>> 2. type something then,
>>>>
>>>> Now jaws read like this:,
>>>>
>>>> revision, Hi how are you?, inserted.
>>>>
>>>> do you want to get the  list of revision then?
>>>>
>>>> Press insert shift r respectively.
>>>>
>>>> want to read the description  of  revision such as name of the
>>>> author, added date/timing?
>>>>
>>>> focus the newly added sentence and, press insert control r then.
>>>>
>>>> then jaws will read like this:,
>>>>
>>>> Iam fine thank you.
>>>> Inserted revised by Timy Sebastian on Tue, Apr 16, 19
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you do not want to here the revision again, revert the command,
>>>> control shift e  for turn off the revision respectively.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this will be helpful to  some extent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reading this.
>>>>
>>>> With regards your friend,
>>>>
>>>> Timy Sebastian.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Hi pranav,

let me tell you the result once I install the 2016 version.

anyway in 2019 I am able to do from the insert menu wen I tried yesterday.

Installing  2016 now, for testing purpose.




Thanks for the new update.

I didn't

On 4/18/19, Pranav Lal  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The trick here is to use the previous comment and next comment commands
> from
> the review pane of the ribbon
>
> They will bring focus to the comment and you can then activate the context
> menu and manipulate the comment as necessary.
>
> Pranav
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of
> Giri
> Prasad
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 10:33 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help
>
> Dear Timy,
> though I place the cursor on the word that has a comment, "delete comment
> button" doesn't appear in the context menu. Any sollution?
> I am using office 2016 with jaws 18.
>
> On 17/04/2019, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>> A small correction:,
>>
>> For read  the current comment, focus the comment which you have added
>> reasontly, then perform alt shift aphostaphy.
>>
>> Jaws will read like this:,
>>
>> Comment Reference: I am fine thank you, By Timy Sebastian.
>>
>> On 4/16/19, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>>> Hi friends,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> for add a comment in 2016 and above do the following:
>>>
>>> 1. focus the word where you want to add a comment.
>>>
>>> For example:,
>>>
>>>
>>> suppose you want to add the comment to the word:, hi,
>>>
>>> then focus that word and, press application key.
>>>
>>> press downarrow until jaws announce, add a comment.
>>>
>>> press enter over there.
>>>
>>> A comment pain will appear and, type the comment then, press escape key.
>>>
>>> now,  focus the word which you added the comment , and, press insert
>>> shift aphostaphy, for red the comment which you have added.
>>>
>>> now jaws will read like this:,
>>>
>>> Comment Reference:
>>> I am fine thank you
>>> By Timy Sebastian
>>>
>>> For delete the comment:,
>>>
>>> 1. focus the comment which you want to delete.
>>>
>>> 2. press application key then downarrow until jaws announce, delete
>>> comment.
>>>
>>> O, sorry, forgot to tell you that, how to enable the track changes in
>>> jaws.
>>>
>>> 1. press control shift e for enable the track changes.
>>>
>>> 2. type something then,
>>>
>>> Now jaws read like this:,
>>>
>>> revision, Hi how are you?, inserted.
>>>
>>> do you want to get the  list of revision then?
>>>
>>> Press insert shift r respectively.
>>>
>>> want to read the description  of  revision such as name of the
>>> author, added date/timing?
>>>
>>> focus the newly added sentence and, press insert control r then.
>>>
>>> then jaws will read like this:,
>>>
>>> Iam fine thank you.
>>> Inserted revised by Timy Sebastian on Tue, Apr 16, 19
>>>
>>>
>>> If you do not want to here the revision again, revert the command,
>>> control shift e  for turn off the revision respectively.
>>>
>>> Hope this will be helpful to  some extent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading this.
>>>
>>> With regards your friend,
>>>
>>> Timy Sebastian.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Hi dear friend,

Please try this method:,

1. Focus the comment.

2. press alt key and navigate to insert menu, and press enter over there.

Press tab until jaws announce,  comment and, press enter there.

Now, once the comment pain got activated, activate the context menu.

You will get the extra options such as, reply to comment, delete comment etc.


Press enter on delete comment, the comment will disappear, from your document.

Note:, jaws will not give any conformation message, while deleting the comment.


Please try the above step and let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Timy.

Note:, Iam using office 2019, hope this will be same for 2016 as well.



On 4/17/19, Giri Prasad  wrote:
> Dear Timy,
> though I place the cursor on the word that has a comment, "delete
> comment button" doesn't appear in the context menu. Any sollution?
> I am using office 2016 with jaws 18.
>
> On 17/04/2019, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>> A small correction:,
>>
>> For read  the current comment, focus the comment which you have added
>> reasontly, then perform alt shift aphostaphy.
>>
>> Jaws will read like this:,
>>
>> Comment Reference: I am fine thank you, By Timy Sebastian.
>>
>> On 4/16/19, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
>>> Hi friends,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> for add a comment in 2016 and above do the following:
>>>
>>> 1. focus the word where you want to add a comment.
>>>
>>> For example:,
>>>
>>>
>>> suppose you want to add the comment to the word:, hi,
>>>
>>> then focus that word and, press application key.
>>>
>>> press downarrow until jaws announce, add a comment.
>>>
>>> press enter over there.
>>>
>>> A comment pain will appear and, type the comment then, press escape key.
>>>
>>> now,  focus the word which you added the comment , and, press insert
>>> shift aphostaphy, for red the comment which you have added.
>>>
>>> now jaws will read like this:,
>>>
>>> Comment Reference:
>>> I am fine thank you
>>> By Timy Sebastian
>>>
>>> For delete the comment:,
>>>
>>> 1. focus the comment which you want to delete.
>>>
>>> 2. press application key then downarrow until jaws announce, delete
>>> comment.
>>>
>>> O, sorry, forgot to tell you that, how to enable the track changes in
>>> jaws.
>>>
>>> 1. press control shift e for enable the track changes.
>>>
>>> 2. type something then,
>>>
>>> Now jaws read like this:,
>>>
>>> revision, Hi how are you?, inserted.
>>>
>>> do you want to get the  list of revision then?
>>>
>>> Press insert shift r respectively.
>>>
>>> want to read the description  of  revision such as name of the author,
>>> added date/timing?
>>>
>>> focus the newly added sentence and, press insert control r then.
>>>
>>> then jaws will read like this:,
>>>
>>> Iam fine thank you.
>>> Inserted revised by Timy Sebastian on Tue, Apr 16, 19
>>>
>>>
>>> If you do not want to here the revision again, revert the command,
>>> control shift e  for turn off the revision respectively.
>>>
>>> Hope this will be helpful to  some extent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading this.
>>>
>>> With regards your friend,
>>>
>>> Timy Sebastian.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

A small correction:,

For read  the current comment, focus the comment which you have added
reasontly, then perform alt shift aphostaphy.

Jaws will read like this:,

Comment Reference: I am fine thank you, By Timy Sebastian.

On 4/16/19, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
>
>
> for add a comment in 2016 and above do the following:
>
> 1. focus the word where you want to add a comment.
>
> For example:,
>
>
> suppose you want to add the comment to the word:, hi,
>
> then focus that word and, press application key.
>
> press downarrow until jaws announce, add a comment.
>
> press enter over there.
>
> A comment pain will appear and, type the comment then, press escape key.
>
> now,  focus the word which you added the comment , and, press insert
> shift aphostaphy, for red the comment which you have added.
>
> now jaws will read like this:,
>
> Comment Reference:
> I am fine thank you
> By Timy Sebastian
>
> For delete the comment:,
>
> 1. focus the comment which you want to delete.
>
> 2. press application key then downarrow until jaws announce, delete
> comment.
>
> O, sorry, forgot to tell you that, how to enable the track changes in jaws.
>
> 1. press control shift e for enable the track changes.
>
> 2. type something then,
>
> Now jaws read like this:,
>
> revision, Hi how are you?, inserted.
>
> do you want to get the  list of revision then?
>
> Press insert shift r respectively.
>
> want to read the description  of  revision such as name of the author,
> added date/timing?
>
> focus the newly added sentence and, press insert control r then.
>
> then jaws will read like this:,
>
> Iam fine thank you.
> Inserted revised by Timy Sebastian on Tue, Apr 16, 19
>
>
> If you do not want to here the revision again, revert the command,
> control shift e  for turn off the revision respectively.
>
> Hope this will be helpful to  some extent.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for reading this.
>
> With regards your friend,
>
> Timy Sebastian.
>


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Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

oops, forgot to tell you that,

For list  of comments, control shift aphostaphy .

This will list all the comments in the document, navigate  with
downarrow after performing that command then focus the comment which
you want to read, then press enter to activate it.


On 4/16/19, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
> Dear Narendra,
> We, in the academics often come across documents wherein there are
> comments inserted by our seniors. Therefore it would be a great help
> if you please prepare a tutorial on track changes and comments for us.
> Best
> Naresh
>
> On 4/16/19, Giri Prasad  wrote:
>> hi Narendra jee,
>> it doesn't work for me. I am using office 2016 with jaws 19 on windows
>> 64 bit machine.
>>
>>
>> On 13/04/2019, Narendra Sathe  wrote:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> In order to delete a comment try doing the following
>>>
>>> 1 First navigate to word to which  comment  is there by pressing
>>> ctrl+right arrow and JAWS announces has comment   when you reach to a
>>> word which has comment.
>>> 2 select this word by pressing ctrl+shift+right arrow
>>> 3 press shift+f10
>>> 4 press the down arrow till you hear delete comment and then press enter
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Narendra Sathe
>>>
>>> On 4/11/19, Giri Prasad  wrote:
 Hi sir,
 by the way, how do we delete a comment?


 On 10/04/2019, Narendra Sathe  wrote:
> On 4/10/19, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Hi Narendra,
>> Thanks for your response. Your suggestion to have patience working
>> with JAWS is very handy. I'm unable to add comment but have found a
>> way by putting my comments on notepad and pasting in the comment pain
>> whenever it requires. Its working well. Now please solve one more
>> query: The JAWS reads comments by "window 1". I want to change it and
>> wanna hear it reads: (Comment by Avinash). How to do this?
>>
>> On 4/10/19, Narendra Sathe  wrote:
>>> Hello avinash
>>>
>>> In order to add comments in word try doing the following
>>> 1 First select the word to which you wish to add comment.
>>> 2 Then press Ctrl+Alt+m and JAWS announces insert comment, comment
>>> by
>>> A.
>>> 3 While typing here  type one character and wait for some 2 to 3
>>> seconds after which JAWS announces that character and once you hear
>>> that character then only type the next character.
>>> 4 Once you have done adding comment press Esc key to return to body
>>> of
>>> your word document. Here also  JAWStakes little more time than our
>>> Expectation.
>>> 5  To hear all the comments together press Ctrl+Shift+'
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Narendra Sathe
>>> Narendra
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] query about Track changes and comments: please help

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Hi friends,



for add a comment in 2016 and above do the following:

1. focus the word where you want to add a comment.

For example:,


suppose you want to add the comment to the word:, hi,

then focus that word and, press application key.

press downarrow until jaws announce, add a comment.

press enter over there.

A comment pain will appear and, type the comment then, press escape key.

now,  focus the word which you added the comment , and, press insert
shift aphostaphy, for red the comment which you have added.

now jaws will read like this:,

Comment Reference:
I am fine thank you
By Timy Sebastian

For delete the comment:,

1. focus the comment which you want to delete.

2. press application key then downarrow until jaws announce, delete comment.

O, sorry, forgot to tell you that, how to enable the track changes in jaws.

1. press control shift e for enable the track changes.

2. type something then,

Now jaws read like this:,

revision, Hi how are you?, inserted.

do you want to get the  list of revision then?

Press insert shift r respectively.

want to read the description  of  revision such as name of the author,
added date/timing?

focus the newly added sentence and, press insert control r then.

then jaws will read like this:,

Iam fine thank you.
Inserted revised by Timy Sebastian on Tue, Apr 16, 19


If you do not want to here the revision again, revert the command,
control shift e  for turn off the revision respectively.

Hope this will be helpful to  some extent.







Thanks for reading this.

With regards your friend,

Timy Sebastian.


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Re: [AI] UDID portal-audio captcha status

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Hi, glad to sea this kind of discussion in our access Indian family.

Yesterday I was telling about the question based capture.

Yes, this type of capture is really accessible to visually impaired
users and, it should be only in text based question, should not be
like some, image or something else.

One of the kerala website, I have seen these kind of question based
capture like I mentioned yesterday,

the benefit of this capture is, no need to provide our mobile number
in the website and, the capture is so safe as well.

How we can asure that, the OTP capture will work always?

no, we cannot.

The questions should be simple and, easy to answer as well.

For example:,

Who is the prime minester in India?


how much is 2 + 2?

Yes, this will work if someone will implement this type of capture in
the website, no doubt.

Hope for the best.

With regards your friend,

Timy.


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Re: [AI] UDID portal-audio captcha status

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Hi,

 my suggestion is that, instead of audio capture, solving some
questions will help the screen reader user to complete there task
without any issues.

I have seen this practice in one of the  kerala site and, really I
like that approach.


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Re: [AI] Unable to open salary account ICICI bank easly because of my blindness!!!!

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Thanks for the reply.

I don't no, why, more than 14 days took to activate my account.

Yes, really it is strange and, irritating.

We should fource theRBI to create  a proper roole for the account
creation for the bvisually impaired in any bank.

If I didn't follow properly, I AM sure that, they will simply ignore
my account creation.

So, Dear BGFI and other organization who is working for the visually
impaired, I request you people to take this matter very ceriously, and
if possible, please conduct some awareness classes for the different
banks staf.


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Re: [AI] Unable to open salary account ICICI bank easly because of my blindness!!!!

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Hi all,

After a long time, Iam writing this mail.

First up all, Thanks a tun those who are help me in this regards.

After a big fight, I got account in ICICI bank in kerala/ettumanoor.


I remember, many access indian friends were  assist me online and
offline, for get an account in ICICI bank.

So, thanks once again.



Yes my beloved  friends, this is our success.

If we try hard, many things we can awhaile like this, no doubt.

Well, here let me ask you a question?

Why  we are not able to open the account with in one day like sighted do?

Why it is taking 14 days and more?

Can't we approach RBI for this dear friends?

Expecting your answer soon.

With regards your beloved friend,

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Re: [AI] Unable to open salary account ICICI bank easly because of my blindness!!!!

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Hi My dear friends,

Thanks everyone for the better understanding and, sorry for the
delayed response.



They clearly told that, without getting above mentioned form, they
won't do anything for opening my salary account.

So, I kindly request all of my friends please help me in this matter.

They told that again,  this form is created by RBI, not us, and, this
is the latest form etc.

this issue should not be happened any of our blind friends anywhere in
the world.

So, I request you to again, please help me in this matter urjuntly.

With regards your friend,



Timy

 regards.



On 12/21/18, timy sebastian ettumanoor  wrote:
> Hi access Indians,
>
>
>
> Good afternoon all
>
> After a long time, Iam writing  a mail.
>
> Well,
>
> Wen I try to open an Account in ICICI bank here in Kerala/ Ettumanoor
> branch, they are telling that, for open an account in our branch there
> is a separate form for visually impaired, and unfortunately, that is
> not available in our branch.
>
> Please someone tell me, what form it is and,  where I can get the same?
>
> Anyone has any idea what form they are talking about.
>
> then they told me that, now a days for sighted people they are filling
> everything in tab device and, the physical form is outdated, and not
> coming in any branch.
>
> So dear experts, kindly help me in this matter, its really urjunt.
>
> With regards your friend,
>
> Timy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Unable to open salary account ICICI bank easly because of my blindness!!!!

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Hi my beloved friends

Thanks everyone for your valible suggestions.

Yes, like one of our friend told, they want witness for proof.


They told that,
where ever the visually impaired do sign, that should be, in frent of
the branch manager respectively.

they send me some of the part of the form in image format.

the same Iam sharing with my dearest friends here.

Kindly read the same.

note:,

Converted from the image, so, a small mistake might be happened.

Kindly excuse me.

s'OT SHUT DOWN
<5j & 1024.187.162
as a
!S of the customer. After proper verification, the branch official
should sign tness mentioning his name and employee id and LTI / RTI
indicating the hand which is ed for the imprint, next to the
customer's thumb impression. ID proof copy can be kept
records.
nk official has to do the KYC certification.
ie applicant has to imprint his thumb impression on the account
opening form and all levant documents to be taken at the time of
account opening.
the customer wishes to sign, his signature should be taken on the
account opening rm. As per RBI guidelines, even for literate visually
impaired applicants, thumb ipression should also be taken on all the
forms submitted at the time of account jening, in addition to the
signature. The thumb impression will be witnessed by a anch official
mentioning his/her name and Employee Id and signature code, terate
customers may issue cheques only with their signature without prior
Jthentication by the bank. Thumb impression of such customers will not
be required on e cheque.
le signature / thumb impression (Left hand Thumb Impression (LTI) in
case of Males and ight Hand Thumb Impression (RTI) in case of Females)
has to be witnessed by a Branch fficial mentioning his/her name and
Employee Id and signature code.
stamp stating "Account of Visually Impaired person" should be affixed
below the status Dde on the AOF.
. Process followed at the DROG:




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[AI] Unable to open salary account ICICI bank easly because of my blindness!!!!

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Hi access Indians,



Good afternoon all

After a long time, Iam writing  a mail.

Well,

Wen I try to open an Account in ICICI bank here in Kerala/ Ettumanoor
branch, they are telling that, for open an account in our branch there
is a separate form for visually impaired, and unfortunately, that is
not available in our branch.

Please someone tell me, what form it is and,  where I can get the same?

Anyone has any idea what form they are talking about.

then they told me that, now a days for sighted people they are filling
everything in tab device and, the physical form is outdated, and not
coming in any branch.

So dear experts, kindly help me in this matter, its really urjunt.

With regards your friend,

Timy.









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Re: [AI] Regarding tutorials for making android / OS application.

[Timy Sebastian]

Hi Maruti,

the mentioned link is missing from your end.

Please share the link



With regards,

Timy.

On 9/6/18, Chetan Sagar :)  wrote:
> Respected Group members,
>
>
> Is there any audio tutorials available to make application for android /
> OS?
> It is possible for totally blind to make as well?
> If any tutorials or any text materials are available then kindly share
> with me personally.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chetan.
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Re: [AI] Report on Accessible notes

[Timy Sebastian]

Hi all,

In my view, Along with different shape and size, A braille  kind of
marking should be present specially in the notes as well as coins.

No doubt, both will be helpful for a blind person for identifying
notes/coins easly

Note:, the braille kind of projection is alternative and, cannot depend always.

I have seen one of the plastic kind of note which is printed in other
country, and, it is easly identifiable to blind person through braille
embossing, so, that is also a welcome suggestion

The benefit of plastic kind of note is, the braille kind of projection
will remain long time!!



Remember friends,

Something is better than nothing.



Hope some changes soon.

With regards your friend,

Timy Sebastian.

On 8/16/18, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
> I fully agree with Harish. No tactile markings on paper currency will help
> the Blind, because such markings get  faded or become blur after some time.
> Different sizes and shapes is the only solution. These sizes and shapes
> should be in same proportion of their face value. More the value, larger the
> size.
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Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio description

[Timy Sebastian]

Hi dipendra sir,

Thanks again for the quick response.

Can I get some of the Malayalam audio described movies, if I will send
request to sakshum???

Is there any possibilities?

Expecting your reply soon.

If it is possible, I have some list of movies which I want to get
audio description.

Expecting your reply on this matter.

Stay well,

With regards,


Timy Sebastian.



On 8/6/18, Dipendra Manocha  wrote:
> You can get few  Regional languages movies from Saksham and on Sugamya
> Pustakalaya. Just search for Audio describe in Sugamya Pustakalaya to get a
> list of movies available there as audio track.
>
> More are planned in this year. However, I would urge people from the list to
> write to production houses to add audio description. If you can meet them,
> and demo the concept then it will still be better.
>
> If there is any upcoming movie or a very well known or loved movie that we
> want audio described, then a request for same could be sent to Saksham at
> i...@saksham.org
>
> What we are able to do is because we went and met few production houses and
> show them the demo of Sholay and one demo of special distribution.
>
> Audio description can happen outside Saksham too. An example of this is the
> audio description happening on Hindi content being added to Netflix.  Such
> as in their latest release of Brij Mohan Amar Rahe. Thus, take this matter
> up where ever you can. Moreover, it does give you a chance to meet few well
> known personalities. I am sure you would love doing this.
>
> If you are taking it up and need any assistance, we will be happy to
> contribute.
>
> Thanks
> Dipendra
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Timy Sebastian
> Sent: 05 August 2018 11:26
> To: Dipendra Manocha 
> Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio description
>
> Hi deependra Sir,
>
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
>
> Could you please try to add the AD description for some of the regional
> languages movies such as, Malayalam, thamil, kannada, thelugu, and so?
>
> That will be useful for wide audiences sure.
>
> Hope these suggestions will consider in the future versions.
>
> Stay well,
>
> With regards,
>
> Timy.
>
> On 8/4/18, Dipendra Manocha  wrote:
>> Hello Sebastian
>>
>> We are working on several fronts:
>>
>> 1. home viewing of special distribution: n this mode either through XL
>> Cinema or any video player or Audio player for distribution of audio
>> track
>> only: no headphone will be required to play the movie.
>> 2. Home viewing on Netflix or amazon prime video: One AD is available
>> there, Viewing will be only with AD through normal playback method of
>> these online video libraries.
>> 3. Inclusive viewing in movie halls: XL Cinema is essential for this
>> and playback cannot be done without headphones here. It si by designa
>> nd is required.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dipendra
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Timy Sebastian [mailto:timys...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 04 August 2018 16:07
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled. 
>> Cc: Dipendra Manocha 
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio description
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I also use  xl sinuma today and notice that, it was a wonderful
>> experience for watching a movie with audio description.
>>
>> Watch showlay movie with audio description directly from the youtube.
>>
>>
>> No doubt, Sukshom team done there part well we can say.
>>
>> the sad think is that, only two movies are available under movies section.
>>
>>  we xl sinuma users are expecting all regional language  movies in the
>> future.
>>
>> The interesting thing is that, after muting the audio of the movie  as
>> well,  we can listen the audio description without any problem.
>> No doubt, that experience is excelllant.
>>
>> One suggestion is:,
>>
>> Without connecting the headphone also, we want to listen the audio
>> description, if possible.
>>
>> Hope that facility will be available in the future versions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/30/18, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Myself and veena used the XL cinema app in the movie theatre  to
>>> watch Sanju with audio description yesterday.
>>> The experience was great. For the first time we felt as if we have
>>> seen the complete mov

Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio description

[Timy Sebastian]

Hi deependra Sir,


Thanks for the quick reply.

Could you please try to add the AD description for some of the
regional languages movies such as, Malayalam, thamil, kannada,
thelugu, and so?

That will be useful for wide audiences sure.

Hope these suggestions will consider in the future versions.

Stay well,

With regards,

Timy.

On 8/4/18, Dipendra Manocha  wrote:
> Hello Sebastian
>
> We are working on several fronts:
>
> 1. home viewing of special distribution: n this mode either through XL
> Cinema or any video player or Audio player for distribution of audio track
> only: no headphone will be required to play the movie.
> 2. Home viewing on Netflix or amazon prime video: One AD is available there,
> Viewing will be only with AD through normal playback method of these online
> video libraries.
> 3. Inclusive viewing in movie halls: XL Cinema is essential for this and
> playback cannot be done without headphones here. It si by designa nd is
> required.
>
> Thanks
> Dipendra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Timy Sebastian [mailto:timys...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 04 August 2018 16:07
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled. 
> Cc: Dipendra Manocha 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio description
>
> Hi all,
>
> I also use  xl sinuma today and notice that, it was a wonderful experience
> for watching a movie with audio description.
>
> Watch showlay movie with audio description directly from the youtube.
>
>
> No doubt, Sukshom team done there part well we can say.
>
> the sad think is that, only two movies are available under movies section.
>
>  we xl sinuma users are expecting all regional language  movies in the
> future.
>
> The interesting thing is that, after muting the audio of the movie  as well,
>  we can listen the audio description without any problem.
> No doubt, that experience is excelllant.
>
> One suggestion is:,
>
> Without connecting the headphone also, we want to listen the audio
> description, if possible.
>
> Hope that facility will be available in the future versions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/30/18, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Myself and veena used the XL cinema app in the movie theatre  to watch
>> Sanju with audio description yesterday.
>> The experience was great. For the first time we felt as if we have
>> seen the complete movie. Generally we go to the movies only with
>> friends and relatives and keep bugging them to describe the non-verbal
>> parts of the film. Even then the experience is not as complete as
>> yesterday. I have even
>> gone to the extent of googling for the movie story earlier   since often
>> we
>> miss out on critical incidents in the movie while watching without
>> description.
>>
>> I think this app is the best solution for providing audio description.
>> There is no need to think about making changes to the movie theatres
>> which anyway does not seem feasible.
>> It will be great if more and more movies do the audio description on
>> their own.
>>
>> The app will need to be improved continuously. On iPhone 6s it worked
>> without any problem, it even detected the movie interval. On an iPhone
>> 7 the AD track stopped several times and had to be started again and
>> again.
>>
>> Great work done by Mr. Dipendra Manocha with the Saksham and XL cinema
>> team.
>> Kudos to Mr. Raj Kumar Hirani for providing the permission to launch
>> the audio description.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Prashant
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Aruni Sharma
>> Sent: 27 July 2018 09:11
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled. 
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio discription
>>
>> hello, XL cinema is providing unmatched entertainment to us and in my
>> view is much more comprehensive and useful than the media descriptions
>> we are getting in netflicks. I don't find Netflicks very useful apart
>> from the fact that it has got a very big number of movies and tv shows.
>> I rather find it very inconvenient at times because we cannot
>> exclusively listen to the action descriptions. The limited info that
>> is available, wherever there is any subtitle, because you either hear
>> everything, dialogues being repeated in the language of your choice
>> simultaneously or hear no descriptions at all.
>> In fact media description is quite different from audio description.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,

Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio description

[Timy Sebastian]

Hi all,

I also use  xl sinuma today and notice that, it was a wonderful
experience for watching a movie with audio description.

Watch showlay movie with audio description directly from the youtube.


No doubt, Sukshom team done there part well we can say.

the sad think is that, only two movies are available under movies section.

 we xl sinuma users are expecting all regional language  movies in the future.

The interesting thing is that, after muting the audio of the movie  as
well,  we can listen the audio description without any problem.
No doubt, that experience is excelllant.

One suggestion is:,

Without connecting the headphone also, we want to listen the audio
description, if possible.

Hope that facility will be available in the future versions.






On 7/30/18, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Myself and veena used the XL cinema app in the movie theatre  to watch Sanju
> with audio description yesterday.
> The experience was great. For the first time we felt as if we have seen the
> complete movie. Generally we go to the movies only with friends and
> relatives and keep bugging them to describe the non-verbal parts of the
> film. Even then the experience is not as complete as yesterday. I have even
> gone to the extent of googling for the movie story earlier   since often we
> miss out on critical incidents in the movie while watching without
> description.
>
> I think this app is the best solution for providing audio description. There
> is no need to think about making changes to the movie theatres which anyway
> does not seem feasible.
> It will be great if more and more movies do the audio description on their
> own.
>
> The app will need to be improved continuously. On iPhone 6s it worked
> without any problem, it even detected the movie interval. On an iPhone 7 the
> AD track stopped several times and had to be started again and again.
>
> Great work done by Mr. Dipendra Manocha with the Saksham and XL cinema team.
> Kudos to Mr. Raj Kumar Hirani for providing the permission to launch the
> audio description.
>
> thanks,
> Prashant
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Aruni Sharma
> Sent: 27 July 2018 09:11
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio discription
>
> hello, XL cinema is providing unmatched entertainment to us and in my view
> is much more comprehensive and useful than the media descriptions we are
> getting in netflicks. I don't find Netflicks very useful apart from the fact
> that it has got a very big number of movies and tv shows.
> I rather find it very inconvenient at times because we cannot exclusively
> listen to the action descriptions. The limited info that is available,
> wherever there is any subtitle, because you either hear everything,
> dialogues being repeated in the language of your choice simultaneously or
> hear no descriptions at all.
> In fact media description is quite different from audio description.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Dr. Aruni Sharma.
> Associate Professor, Dept. of Political Science, JNPG College, Lucknow,
> India.
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> facebook: www.facebook.com/arunisharma
> Skype: arunisha...@outlook.com
>
>
>
> On 26 July 2018 at 23:34, Dipendra Manocha  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> The reason for separate audio track in XL Cinema that the purpose  is
>> to provide a solution for the movie hall. The movie Sholay was put
>> there to let everyone try out the system before you head to the movie
>> theater. Else, the there is not reason to play movie Sholay from
>> YouTube and AD from XL Cinema.
>>
>> The key here is The very innovative  solution to be able to provide
>> audio description while the movie is in movie hall.
>>
>> Well, the reason for most production houses not doing audio
>> description is that there is a huge doubt in their minds that afterall
>> is it really required by us? Because the numbers do not really show
>> that there is much interest in it. May be it is too early days for
>> reaching out to any conclusions on it right now.
>>
>> Other day I received comment about XL Cinema approach o audio
>> description and heard that the Cinema halls solution deployed in US is not
>> reliable.
>> Not man persons with blindness go to every theater and wen one
>> actually goes in the staff generally is caught unaware on how the
>> system is to be operated. The app based solution seem to be a much
>> better  approach in such circumstance.
>>
>> however, as I said Cinema world is very keenly watching the response
>> on the movie Sanju. I am afraid, the results till now are very
>> discouraging and we are going to have very tough time convincing same
>> or any other production house to invest their time just for handful
>> persons.
>>
>> Thanks
>> dipendra
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia 

[AI] Sharing some of my bad experiences as a visually impaired person when I aproach sbt bank reasonly, for applying netbanking and checking my ATM card currend status!!!!

[Timy Sebastian]

Hi friends, hope all are enjoying your holidays.


after a long time Iam writing a mail to access india.


Reasonly, I when to sbt bank in kerala for applying net banking facility 
and checking my ATM card validity.



When I give my ATM card to check it validity there, they told that there 
swiping machine is showing that, the account holder is a visually 
impaired person,  and the transaction is got failed.



here my question is:, how the transaction get failed, if the account 
holder is visually impaired  person?



not able to understand that logic.


not only that, when I applyed for the net banking facility,  they 
provide me the net banking kit after asking that, are you able to do the 
same? I told her, yes, of cource, Iam working in hcl company in noida, 
with the help of screen reader and everything I well explained to them, 
but, after  half an hour, they call me and told me that, when they 
contacted there help desk team, they told them that, the visually 
impaired person cannot do the internet banking, if he wants to use the 
same, he has to produce a letter, and the letter contents should be 
like, as a visually impaired person, I will be responsible for anything 
happend to my account, and the bank doesn't have any responsibility in 
the future etc, etc.



First I agreed,


But, after that I contacted some of my friends and they told me that, 
don't give any letter like they said.



then I call me them back and told that, Sorry mam, there is an RBI 
circular is saying that, whatever facility that should be provided to 
visually impaired person without any discrimination, and so many blind 
people are using the same, and so many blind people are working in the 
banking sector as well.



then she replyed that, that I know there is a circular, but, the there 
is no braille facility is available for using internet banking, that is 
the reason we are saying  that.



I told her that, if your having any doubt like this, you have to ask the 
organization,  which is working for the wellfare of the blind community, 
not to your help desk team.



They doesn't no what the visually impaired person can do, see mam, am 
also working in one of the MNC company that is HCl, I already told you 
before.



again if your saying that you need some kinds of letter like your told, 
I will share some of my blind friends those who are working in banking 
sector, and my organization people wil contact you soon, then the 
cituvation totaly will get change, I said, now tell me, is letter required?





then she replyed that, no sir, I Will do the needful, don't worry.


Finally, net banking is get activated in my account today!!.


Here, I would like to share some suggestions regarding these kinds of 
issues.



in the training time, the hier authorities should teach the trainies, 
how to deal with a visually impaired custamer, and which are the 
facilities they can provide them respectively, then only these kinds of 
issues we can avoid in the future.



2. All managers/ officers should have clear idea about, what are the 
facilities vi custamer  can use without any trouble.


Thanks for reading my mail and suggestions.

With regards,

Timy Sebastian.

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Re: [AI] Difference between I7 processor and I5 processor for a VI user?

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On 10/16/16, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> but the issue is that ssd harddisk is coming only with i7 model. So by
> anyway I am forced to buy I7 model.
>
> On 10/16/16, Austin Pinto  wrote:
>> it doesnt matter that much now which cpu you take i would suggest save
>> some money by going i5 or i3 and spending the saved money on a ssd
>> drive that will be the best upgrade
>>
>> On 10/16/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>> I5 is better, I have used dual core and I3 for that matter and when it
>>> comes to performing OCR, Dual core as well I3s can't do any other task
>>> with an OCR software running in the background. My I5 doesn't even
>>> bother about it. So I5 is surely more stable and have been using this
>>> since last 2 years now.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Ajay
>>>
>>> On 10/13/16, Austin Pinto  wrote:
 if you have the budget to go for i5 then you must go for it.
 as it will make your system ready to run for 5 7 years but if you are
 going for a system that will give you good performence for 2 3 years
 then you can go for anything 4th 5th gen

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> why I5? choose lower processor like dual core, if you don't require
> any
> graphics or design or 3d software on your pc. only jaws, word, excel,
> internet  etc can run any lower processor than I5. you can enjoy all
> these
> with a lower processor also. better is to save your money, don't let
> the
> company get rich.
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
>
> the disabled." 
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Difference between I7 processor and I5 processor for
> a
> VI
>
> user?
>
>
>> I5 should be more than enough.
>>
>> On 10/12/16, Austin Pinto  wrote:
>>> you can go for i5 no problem..
>>> if you have some1 who will use your laptop to play games you can
>>> consider i7 with a good gpu
>>>
>>> On 10/12/16, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
 Hi members, I have decided to purchase one Lenovo Thinkpad X260.
 But
 it is available in two versions, first is coming with Intel Core i5
 6200U processor and 4gb Ram, while second is with 6th Generation
 Intel
 Core i7 6500U processor and 8gb Ram.
 But the price difference between first and second model is of
 22,000
 rupees.
 So can anyone tell me what difference will it make in terms of
 speed
 and usability for a visually impaired user? As I have to use jaws,
 kurzweil, ABBYY fine reader and other necessary softwares.
 Please guide me whether should I go for I5 model or I7 model. Mohib
 from
 Delhi.


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[AI] Problem with eye ball data card, help need urjently

[Timy Sebastian]

Dear friend, this is Timy from bangalore.
Reasonly, I purchased eyeball data card and while connecting y5 to
internet to my moto g third generation mobile it is  showing that, y5
full, no internet.

But, am able to access internet in my dell laptop windows version 8.1
with the same device at a time.

Tried so many methods but, didn't succeed.

So dear experts and friends, please tell me what to do now.

Hope someone will respond soon.

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Re: [AI] Visually impaired people cannot travel on disable compartment?, friends please thro some light on this matter!!!!

[Timy Sebastian]

Well said dear friend!

anyway, our centrel railway is trying to implement such rule?

I heard some discussions are going on regarding with this matter.

Don't no it is correct or not.

 so, Dear experts and friends, could you please inquire about above
topic and, share the information
with our list.

With regards,

Timy.


Dear friends, reasontly one of my friend travel to thiruvananthapuram
to kochin in kerala,
Then the person


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[AI] Visually impaired people cannot travel on disable compartment?, friends please thro some light on this matter!!!!

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

 friends, reasontly one of my friend travel to thiruvananthapuram to 
kochin in kerala,


Then the person who is sitting on ticket counder told him, while he is 
inquiring about
disable compartment, this compartment is not for blind or hearing 
impaired  people, this is only  for  other disable, those who cannot 
walk indepentently.




is it true?

is there any low exist like that?

If it is yes, we should act accordingly.

I heard the centrel railway slowly trying to implement a low like that, 
Don't no, what is the reality.


So, dear friends,   Expecting your replys regarding with this matter.

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Re: [AI] Web Visum problems

[Timy Sebastian]

Great my dear friend, it works.

Thank you very much for this great idea.

On 1/20/16, Satguru Rathi  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Though this is a temporary solution from Mozilla, and likely to be fixed in
>
> the coming versions, one hopes that webvisum developers get this useful
> addon varified from Mozilla. Mean while, if you've updated your browser to
> 43, here is how you still can use the unvarified addons like of webvisum:
>
> 1. move to the address bar and type about:config.
> 2. press enter on "I'll be carefull, I promiss" button.
> 3. tab once and locate xpinstall.signatures.required by pressing letter
> 'x'.
> 3. right click on it or press application key and find "Toggle" and activate
>
> it.
> 4. You'll notice that the default value for this will now be changed from
> 'true' to 'false'.
> 5. Restart your firefox and Webvisum should work well.
>
> Thanks,
> Satguru.
> -Original Message-
> From: Aravind R
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:45 AM
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> concerningthe disabled.
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>
> type about:config in address bar.
> enter on "i promiss" button.
> one list will be present where press x and find out xsecurity toggle
> button which is disabled.
> enable that button and restart firefox.
> webvisum will be installed
>
> On 1/20/16, Mahesh S. Panicker  wrote:
>> Hi listers,
>> got the latest Firefox update, and it has disabled Webvisum as it is
>> apparently an unsigned add-on. Checked the webvisum site but there is
>> no update available. Is it the end of the road for webvisum? Or is
>> there a way around the problem?
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
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>> Lady Shri Ram College,
>> Lajpat Nagar
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Re: [AI] more than 1800 post are ther in railways

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notification is inaccessible, I observe.

so, Please someone tell me which are the posts identifyed for visually 
impaired, an someone please tell me, any sepperation for blind and 
visually impaired in this?


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Re: [AI] more than 1800 post are ther in railways

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Dear friends,, Please, share the following information:





1. Where the study materials are available for this exam, and anyone 
having it?

Do share,  personally then.


2. are they mentioned blind/VH separately  in the notification?
if yes tell me, which are the jobs identified for blind/Vh.

3. couldn't find the exact link for applying it, someone share me that 
as well.


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Re: [AI] more than 1800 post are ther in railways

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Which are the jobs identifyed for visually impaired, and someone
please post the exact link for applying it.

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Re: [AI] Talking ATM Locator mobile app updated

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Sure dear friend,

That is my pleasure.



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Re: [AI] Talking ATM Locator mobile app updated

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Dear prashanth, happy to know that, in the latest version  some of the 
new features added such as, add to favorite,, share the  address with 
friend etc.


soopper move, go head.






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Re: [AI] A dream come true navigational system

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Harish sir, very good idea, go head!





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Re: [AI] A dream come true navigational system

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Really thanks for the link.



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Re: [AI] youtube link of tutorial for booking railway ticket independently with screen reader by radioudaan.

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

Thank you dear friend.

apart from this, try to creat these kinds of tutorials in english 
language, then this will be benifited those who are from out of country 
as well.


Thanks once again  for the understanding.

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Re: [AI] youtube link of tutorial for booking railway ticket independently with screen reader by radioudaan.

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Please mentioned the language as well, iether hindhi or english.





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Re: [AI] youtube link of tutorial for booking railway ticket independently with screen reader by radioudaan.

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I observe this tutorial in hindhi, Please someone do the same tutorial 
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Re: [AI] youtube link of tutorial for booking railway ticket independently with screen reader by radioudaan.

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Hi friends,

Sorry for the delayed response.



Whatever may be, mentioning language is the best practice.

nothing to say apart from this.
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Re: [AI] Visually Challenged TN Professors Resume stir for College Job

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 First, thanks murukan for your sharing.

Dear abinash, your postings are really amaizing and informative, so, 
could you please post the entire text instead of links in the next mail 
onwards?


note: this is only my suggestion.




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Re: [AI] Urgent solution

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Hi,
Iam also facing the same, don't no what to do.
hope, some of our friends will suggest something better to avoid this.



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Re: [AI] regarding nvda.

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Hi, use insert v, it will announce screen layout off, then use it, it will work.

try it out  then   let me know.

On 9/2/15, Ishwar Verma  wrote:
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Re: [AI] A World Cup winning cricket captain who earns Rs 15, 000 per month

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sooppper posting mear.





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Re: [AI] Video: Visually-impaired Reem Shamsudeen Muslim woman appeals to Kejriwal after being denied accommodation

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I could read the news, but, unable to play the vidio.



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[AI] some doubts in html codes, experts please reply

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

dear friends, hope all are fine.



someone please tell me,  how can we make radio buttons or combo box 
status read by our  screen readers?


for examble in a combo box, it should read like this,

year: combo box, january, 1 of 12.

if it is a radio button, it should read like this,

male radio button not checked, 1 of 2, female radio button checked, 2 of 2.

experts please tell me which are the code we can use for this?

an another doubt is:

once we submit a form, we should get the alert  if we missed something, 
for examble,

 Think for a while,
I have given 5 dijets, instead of my 10 dijit mobile number and submit  
to any of the free sms sending website, then I should get this dialog box:,


alert, 5 dijets are missing, please type the ten dijet numbers and 
retry, ok button.


here also I would like to know which is the suitable html code for this.

expecting answers from our experts at the earliest.

with regards your friend,
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Re: [AI] Be a part of the accessibility in India Community Group @w3c

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dear mam, after reading your mail, I double check the same, but couldn't 
find out where the subscribe button or register link is.


 so, could you please tell amith to explain the steps?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [AI] some doubts in html codes, experts please reply

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well dear friend, do you know any tutorial is available for java 
learning with JAWS screen reader?


if it yes, please share.



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Re: [AI] Be a part of the accessibility in India Community Group @w3c

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

yes mam, like aravindh said, there is no subscribe button on the website.

readers can read the all postings, but there is no way to subscribe.

so, requesting you to please fix this bug and repost the website again.





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Re: [AI] Be a part of the accessibility in India Community Group @w3c

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couldn't find the mentioned link.

anyone is able to do the same without any issue? if yes, kindly tell me 
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Re: [AI] Audio Screen: An accessible diagram or map explorer

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I listen the tutorial and seems interesting software indeed.

thanks dear friend for the great sharing.

expecting more an more in the future too.



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Re: [AI] Dainak Bhaskar: Ranchi: Netrheen Premika se shadi pe Dulhe ko ghar se nikala: fir samaj ne sammanit kiya

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which language news is this?

is it in hindhi?

please mentioned the language while posting, if the language is not english.

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Re: [AI] Moderator: RE: excel 2010 audio tutorials

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thats true raju, I also have listen some of her tutorials wthout 
demonstration.


anyway those were really helpful to me.

if your listening her tutorials you have to do the practical yourself, 
because of the  lak of demonstration.




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Re: [AI] excel 2010 audio tutorials

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

hello dear friend, could you please upload the same?

I mean, office 2010 excel audio tutorial?



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[AI] some doubts, experts please reply on this!!!!

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dear friends, hope all are fine.

I would like to ask you some of my doubts  here.

1. is there any way to listen the movie  subtitle with elequence voice 
and how?


2. how can I type backqote? and which compination keys I should use for it?

3. currently,  my micromax  android mobile stopp working, problem is its 
board has certain complaints, so, want to use android in my windows 7 32 
bit system, any solution  my dear  friends? anyone knows any software 
which is more accessable to screen reader?




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Re: [AI] problem in downloading webvisum

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here is the download link is:,

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2225709/webvisum.zip

extract the webvisum folder, click the webvisum file, follow the screen 
instructions.






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Re: [AI] New link for the interview with Fatima Soriano, from Philipines

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george sir, the above link is not working.

check please.



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Re: [AI] New link for the interview with Fatima Soriano, from Philipines

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great, it is working



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Re: [AI] Chief Minister Oommen Chandy: Law soon to help visually challenged:

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only 3 lak...



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Re: [AI] Fwd: {Disability Studies India} Accessible India Campaign: Govt plans app for the disabled

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really a useful info, thanks for this.



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[AI] Visually impaired boy dons role of TV news presenter

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taken from the hindu/thamil nadu.

It was more than a dream come true for 10-year-old visually impaired 
schoolgoer T. Sriramanujam to don the role of a news presenter on 
television. At 5pm
on Friday, the boy became probably the first visually impaired 
newsreader in a satellite television channel based at Coimbatore. I was 
trembling with
fear when I read the first news. But, on reading it, I gained confidence 
and read the remaining 30 news items in my half-hour slot covering 
topics such
as national, sports and entertainment news, he said. The news team of 
the channel extended support to the boy to help him learn the art of 
reading news
over the last three days, before the news was finally recorded on 
Friday. The boy from Paraipatti village in Palani is the son of a couple 
who are farmers.
He started listening to news from the time he turned nine-years-old. The 
boy, who is now staying in a hostel at Thondamuthur, studies with 22 
students
in the government school for visually impaired students. Overjoyed by 
the opportunity he said he would read news for the channel at 5pm on 
Fridays. G.K.S.
Selvakumar, Chairman of Lotus News Channel, said that the channel became 
the first to introduce a transgender as a news reader. The transgender 
reader
Padmini Prakash (40) reads news at the 7pm slot everyday. Following 
successful outcome of the earlier attempt, we made an attempt to involve 
a visually
impaired news reader, he told The Hindu. It was then the idea of 
involving a school student struck him. We have seen many families where 
visually impaired
children are not sent to school. Those boys and girls, denied education, 
were left to depend on others for a living, he said and expressed 
confidence
that such parents would be motivated by Sriramanujam. The news team had 
to play a very important role in making this effort successful. While a 
team was
preparing Braille scripts for the boy, the other trained him to face the 
camera though he could not see the cameras, lights and the recording 
process —

and it was quite a challenge for them too.




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[AI] Free night-calling only under select plans: BSNL

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The free night-calling facility from Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited's 
(BSNL) landline is available only under select tariff plans. In a press 
release issued
here, V.Raju, Principal General Manager, BSNL, Tiruchi, said calls made 
from BSNL landline phones to BSNL and private landlines or mobile phones 
across
India from 9 p.m. to 7 a.m. would be free under the facility. However, 
this would be available on select landline tariff plans. Customers who 
are in tariff
plans which do not offer the facility can submit a letter requesting to 
change their connection to any plan offering the free night-calling 
facility. More
information can be had about the plans from the nearest BSNL customer 
service centres or by dialling the toll-free number 0431-241 or from 
the website:www.bsnl.co.in
Persons who desire to have new landline telephones with free night 
calling facility can SMS LL to 54141 from BSNL mobile connections or 
to 9400054141

from mobile connections of other service providers.




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[AI] National chess for the physically challenged

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taken from hindu.



The Tamil Nadu Physically Disabled Chess Association and Tiruchi 
District Physically Disabled Chess Association will conduct the first 
physically-challenged
national individual chess championship from April 16 to 19 at Pavendar 
Bharathidasan CET. Entries close on April 14. Call 94431 59319 / 99449 
81952 for

details.




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[AI] How Technology is Helping this Visually Impaired Journalist See and Report

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Only last night, I finished reading ‘Lights Out’, a brutally honest book 
by my former journalist colleague L Subramani, who has written about 
gradually going blind at 18 from a degenerative retinal disease called 
Retinitis Pigmentosa; and this morning, I have this sudden desperate 
desire to speak to him. I manage to get his number from a common friend 
and call hesitatingly; it’s been 10 years and I am sure he has forgotten 
who I am. “Hi Mani, I’m sure you don’t remember me,” I begin. “Hey 
Rachna!” he cuts me short, and a smile touches me all the way from 
Bengaluru. “Of course I remember your voice. I used to like it.”


Mani

Photo Credit to “Naveen Kumar”

If I don’t mince words with politically correct phrases; I can tell you 
bluntly that Mani is completely blind. He wasn’t born that way but 
that’s how he was when I met him in ‘Deccan Herald’; walking around the 
office with a cane, running into furniture sometimes, cracking jokes, 
editing reports, sharing coffee when the evening kapi cart came rolling 
down. Oh yes! Even accidentally sitting on a skinny young intern’s lap 
once (an incident that alarmed him more than it alarmed her). Tall, 
broad shouldered, gentle and soft spoken; slightly bent and with a 
hesitant walk because he was extra careful about not walking into 
something or someone; that was Mani as I knew him.


A little later into the conversation when I pull his leg about how he 
couldn’t possibly have recognised my voice after all these years, Mani 
tells me I’m wrong. “For me, hearing a voice after 10 years is just like 
seeing an old friend walk down the road is for you. It might have aged a 
little or acquired a new texture and tone; but unless it has changed 
drastically, I will recognise it.”


*Mani’s story*

Read his book and you will know him better than my article can tell you. 
It’s the amazing story of a kid who faced impending blindness with grit 
and, more importantly, came out of it with his dreams, his zest for life 
and his sense of humour intact.


At 15, as a young schoolboy who was called four eyes by his classmates 
because he wore glasses, Mani couldn’t believe what his ophthalmologist 
told him gently after a routine check up: that he would be going blind 
slowly. It might happen in a year, or two or more, but it would happen. 
His mother’s faith in God’s curative powers had Mani being made “to beg 
for forgiveness and be cured” by astrologers, swamis, godmen and even 
rolling in a wet dhoti at the Kannudaya Nayaki temple of the devi who is 
believed to be the protector of eyes.


Nothing worked. He slowly started having flashes of blindness – 
sometimes on his way to school. Once when he was getting in a cinema 
hall with his classmates for a film show and once walking back home from 
a temple after dark. As his eyesight slowly started failing, Mani 
underwent a terrible phase. He would see flashes of light and then 
complete darkness. His vision was blurring. He started losing 
confidence. He would walk with a stoop, so that if he fell he wouldn’t 
be hurt so badly; he would go around with knees bent in apprehension, 
fearing he would bang into something; he would live in constant fear 
that his eyesight would go completely. “If anyone had told me earlier 
that blindness would come as a relief, I would have laughed at him. But, 
at that time, anything seemed better than this hell,” he says, 
confessing that he welcomed his blindness when it finally claimed him at 
18 years of age. And that is where Mani’s book ends; but if you ask me, 
that is where his real story began.


*Zero technology days*

Mani

Photo Credit to “Naveen Kumar”

Mani tells me that when he started looking for a job, the top option for 
him was to become a telephone operator in a bank. “It was a popular 
career for blind people since it gave you a regular salary though there 
would not be any promotions. For me, it was completely uninspiring.” A 
chance to edit documents translated into English from Japanese came his 
way since he knew Japanese, but it was boring too. “My trip in life 
wasn’t about earning money,” he says. Sports journalism was where his 
heart was set but the first question editors asked him when he went 
looking for work was: How will you do it? It was a difficult question to 
answer but eventually he showed them how.


Right from 1998, when he first went looking for a journalism job, all 
the way to 2003; Mani worked without any accessible technology. He would 
sit at tennis matches and ask for the shots to be described to him. “I 
could hear the ball. And since I had seen tennis in my school days I 
could visualize the shot when someone said it was a forehand cross court 
or it was a drop shot, I already knew what these were, and it was easy 
for me to file reports.” When he started reporting hockey, it was an 
even bigger challenge. David, who used to report sports for the ‘New 
Indian Express’ encouraged him to do it. “He suggested I bring an alarm 
clock to 

Re: [AI] FW: [Cavi-announce] Why not sign up for our new PowerPoint short course?

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unfortunately, this course is not free





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Re: [AI] Fw: problem with uploading on sendspace

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used sendspace  desktop  uploader.





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Re: [AI] Fw: problem with uploading on sendspace

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nothing special, select the compressed file,

 press application key hit enter on upload to sendspace  option, your done.

you can create folder itself pressing, control f inside the sendspace 
windo and copy paste the files how you liking.


hope I have cleared your doubt.

Thanks in advance,

Timy.








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Re: [AI] FW: [Cavi-announce] Why not sign up for our new PowerPoint short course?

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unfortunately, this course is not free.





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Re: [AI] Fw: problem with uploading on sendspace

[timy sebastian]

no no it work with free account as well.

here  I will explain what you do:,

1. download and install this file from,

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2225709/Softwares/SendSpace%20Wizard%20v1.4.2%20Windows%20Installer.exe

2. login with your account.

now what, want to add the file, AM I right?

   select the file which one you want to upload, then  right click on 
it, (application key).


hit enter on upload to sendspace option.

if the type description is enable under properties option, it will ask 
you the description, you can uncheck this option, if you do not want to 
see this  in the future.


checking the uploading status of a file,

press control + r, then tab once, you can see that there.

copy link of a file,

first, press control + r, then select the file which one you want to 
copy the link, press control l again, it will be copyed in the clipboard.


now paste where ever you want, it will work 100% sure.

 please explore it,

then let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Timy Sebastian,


mobile: (08089333938).

skype id:,
timyseba




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[AI] A smart way to avoid communication overload

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source:,

the hindu.



She doesn't want to own a smartphone. So, is something wrong with her? 
Certainly not; she's just another person who has chosen her own space 
over the constant
urge to check the Facebook page every other minute on the phone. 
Smartphones, for a while now, have been on the list of basic needs of 
youngsters, and
anyone who doesn't use them is considered 'left behind'. However, those 
like Asaithambi (21), a major in BCA, think that without a smartphone to 
hamper
them, they are actually a little ahead of the rest. Contrary to the 
notion that communication gets harder without smartphones, their absence 
actually seems
to make for better person-to-person interaction. 'I don't use a mobile 
phone at all and it doesn't affect my communication in any way,” she 
says. Youngsters
who stay away from smartphones say they do set apart time for browsing 
the Internet, but do not want it to become their life. It is just not 
attractive
enough for them. Meryl (19), for instance, says she wouldn't own an 
iPhone even if it came for free. And, according to 25-year-old Preetha, 
an 'addiction
to smartphones among my peers only scares me away from owning one.” Even 
newly-converted users are not completely sold on the advantages. 
Shivashankari
(18), who recently bought a smart device, says, 'I thought smartphones 
were a lot of fun, but now that I've got one, I have realised it does 
not live up
to the hype.” Focus on print-challenged The needs of the 
print-challenged are coming into sharp focus. Karna Vidya Technology 
Centre put up a stall at
the recent Chennai Book Fair to highlight the requirements of the 
disabled and also the market potential for publishers to look at finding 
new customers.
'More than ever before, there are several technologies on computers and 
other smart devices that help the disabled access books,” says K. 
Raghuraman of
Karna Vidya. 'There are screen readers that allow people to understand 
and appreciate text. The time has come for inclusive publishing of all 
material,”
he says. Though there is still some focus on Braille embossing of books, 
the future lies in text-to-speech technology and publishing needs to be 
done digitally.
A bulk of Tamil publishing still happens in print formats, but digital 
formats — like EPUB — are catching up. Audio books in formats such as 
DAISY (Digital
Accessible Information System) are preferred by the visually impaired. 
Popular screen reader software like Non Visual Desktop Access (NVDA) and 
Job Access
with Speech (JAWS) are gaining widespread acceptance among users. B. 
Malarkodi, a volunteer at Kottivakkam's Worth Digitising, accesses 
Kalki's Ponniyin
Selvan in DAISY audio book format through Bookshare (www.bookshare.com), 
the online lending library for the print-disabled. The Western voice 
synthesiser
makes the Tamil sound strange but she gets it. 'I understand it, but am 
sure you don't,” she laughs. (Reporting by Haritha Mohan and Karthik 
Subramanian)





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Re: [AI] introduce

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please write your reply on top for easy access.





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[AI] Kurzweil 1000 version 14 improves learning experience for users with vision disabilities

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*
*

*Source:,
*

*
http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2015/02/04/kurzweil-1000-version-14-improves-learning-experience-for-users-with-vision-disabilities/?shared=emailmsg=fail
*

* DALLAS:* Kurzweil Education(TM), Inc., a division of Cambium 
Learning(R) Group, Inc. (ABCD), today announced the availability of 
Kurzweil 1000(TM) Version 14, the latest version of its award-winning 
text-to-speech software that makes printed or electronic text readily 
available to people who are blind or have low vision.


Kurzweil 1000(TM) helps learners with vision disabilities save time and 
gain independence by combining traditional machine technologies such as 
scanning, image processing, and text-to-speech with communication and 
productivity tools that allow users to unlock learning anytime, 
anywhere. In addition to the educational benefits of the software, users 
can personalize experiences by choosing from a variety of 
natural-sounding voices and taking advantage of organizational features 
such as note taking, bookmarks, content summaries, and an appointment 
calendar with audible reminders.


“With Kurzweil 1000, people can go to college and earn degrees; they can 
work and read, and live their lives again,” said Dona Orgeron, clinical 
nurse manager in Albuquerque, NM.


Version 14 enhancements include:

 * The option to extract images into PDF files
 * Recognition of PNG files
 * Optical character recognition upgrades
 * A new scanning mode
 * An improved proofreading mechanism
 * The ability to record voice notes
 * Advanced editing capabilities
 * Enhanced navigation within documents

“At Kurzweil, we believe that anyone willing to learn can learn when 
given access to the right tools,” said Stephen Baum, vice president of 
engineering at Kurzweil Education. “We’re committed to constantly 
improving our technology to enable students with low or no vision to 
bring the written word to life, in a way that helps them understand and 
retain the information.”


For a complimentary 30-day trial of Kurzweil 1000 Version 14, visit 
http://www.kurzweiledu.com/trialsignup.php. To upgrade, visit 
https://www.kurzweiledu.com/store.php.


For more information, please visit www.kurzweiledu.com 
http://www.kurzweiledu.com/.






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Re: [AI] Vidio: Stumped, Imagine playing Cricket by only hearing the ball

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thank you for sharing this.



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[AI] Helping the visually impaired read Tamil

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source:,

the hindu.com, thamil nadu.



When she proofreads books, B. Malarkodi knows she is opening up vistas 
she did not have access to in school or college. The visually-impaired 
proofreader
is part of a team at the Worth Digitisation centre in Kottivakkam that 
converts books to Braille. What makes the not-for-profit organisation, a 
part of
the Worth Trust group, all the more interesting is its ability to 
convert Tamil books to Braille. A not-so-simple task considering there 
is just a handful
of optical character recognition (OCR) software available in the market. 
Most of them do not have a high accuracy level when it comes to 
identifying the
Tamil script and converting it to digital format. At Worth Trust, the 
workers, all of who are disabled in some way, use an OCR software 
developed at the
medical intelligence and language engineering (MILE) lab of the Indian 
Institute of Science (IISc) in Bengaluru. The OCR software, developed by 
a team
headed by A.G. Ramakrishnan of the department of electrical engineering 
at IISc, is considered to be one of the best for Tamil, and has been 
provided free
of cost to Worth Digitisation. Several blind students approach Worth 
Digitisation for conversion of Tamil books to Braille. Most of these 
requests are
for textbooks and other academic work. The organisation charges students 
only the cost of the A3-sized paper on which the Braille embossing is 
done, at
the rate of Rs. 6 per page. Ms. Malarkodi handles the last part of a 
chain of work by the team. It starts with scanning the books, then using 
OCR to digitise
the text, then converting the digitised text using software like 
Duxburry Braille Translator, and eventually embossing the books. The 
project has been
active from 2008, but awareness has grown only in recent times. With the 
help of MILE lab's OCR software, the number of books being converted has 
also
increased substantially. They used to emboss 10 books a month some years 
back but today they are able to handle between 100 to 150 books a month. 
Worth
Digitising has also taken up converting popular Tamil magazines into 
Braille. Publications such as women's magazine Mangayar Malar and 
children's magazine
Chutti Vikatan are being converted. Malarkodi remembers the first Tamil 
book, outside of textbooks, she ever read in Braille. It was 
Vairamuthu's Thaneer
Desam , and it was beautiful, she says. Visually-impaired students who 
would like to convert their books to Braille can contact Worth 
Digitising on 9442562321.





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[AI] Using Google Glass, Elementary Students Learn How Blind People Live!!!!!!!

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Source :,

http://www.fastcompany.com/3041196/body-week/using-google-glass-elementary-students-learn-how-blind-people-live 



Forget Glassholes. A new program using Google Glass helps students 
develop empathy, set goals, and achieve digital literacy.


By Mary Pilon

Ever since its introduction three years ago, Google 
http://www.fastcompany.com/company/google Glass has endured 
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/the-shine-starts-wears-off-google-glass/?_r=0 
more than its share of haters 
http://www.fastcodesign.com/3025586/google-glass-gets-more-fashionable-but-not-fashionable-enough. 
While many Glassholes lamented the announcement earlier this month 
that Google would end consumer sales of the face-computer-slash-eyewear, 
others eagerly eulogized the Segway of spectacles.


But Glass still has plenty of non-consumer applications 
http://www.fastcompany.com/3040788/google-glass-is-not-dead-yet-augmedix-a-glass-for-doctors-startup-raises-16-million 
for its technology. One of Glass’s more unusual and poignant uses was 
well underway on a recent weekday morning in Julieann Cappuccino 
http://www.fastcompany.com/person/julieann-cappuccino’s fifth grade 
Northwood Academy Charter School 
http://www.fastcompany.com/organization/northwood-academy-charter-school 
classroom in North Philadelphia. There, students clustered around iPads 
and laptops, completing another lesson in a multi-month curriculum using 
video and insights from Glass to learn about, of all things, blindness.


We can see what he doesn’t, Bryce Stevens, a student said, pointing to 
a map of the Olympic Training Center 
http://www.fastcompany.com/organization/olympic-training-center in 
Chula Vista, Calif. Stevens and his teammates were trying to chart a 
course using beacons for Lex Gillette 
http://www.fastcompany.com/person/lex-gillette, a blind Paralympic 
silver medalist. He shows us how he uses his phone, runs on the track, 
and walks around. It’s like we’re there.


Lex Gillette

The concept is a bit counterintuitive. Gillette wears Glass, records 
video, and then sends a feed to roughly 120 students in California, 
Philadelphia, Indiana, and Louisiana. They then prepare questions for 
him (What is your favorite color? How do you achieve success? or Do 
you drink coffee?) and via video chat, and Gillette answers them while 
offering demonstrations of how he goes about his day.


The larger goal, according to organizers with Classroom Champions 
http://www.classroomchampions.org/, a nonprofit focused on connecting 
Olympic and Paralympic athletes with students at high-need schools, is 
to use Glass to increase children’s empathy and goal-setting skills.


When I first heard about this, I thought ‘How is this going to work?’ 
Cindy Carey, Northwood's principal for fifth through eighth grade, said. 
But since implementing the Glass program at the start of this year, she 
said she’s been pleased with the results. It’s fostered such a sense of 
community with the kids. They really feel connected to him.


In April, Google put a call out to nonprofits for ways in which they 
would use Glass to pursue their mission. Five winners would receive a 
free pair of the glasses, a trip to Google for training and a $25,000 grant.


Steve Mesler http://www.fastcompany.com/person/steve-mesler, an 
Olympic gold medalist bobsledder and chief executive of Classroom 
Champions http://www.fastcompany.com/company/classroom-champions, said 
he heard about the proposal from a board member and Gillette immediately 
came to mind.


Gillette said he was interested, and realized that the students he would 
be mentoring were roughly the same age he was when he lost his vision.


I thought the idea was amazing, Gillette said. I wanted to give the 
insight into my daily life and change their perceptions of how they 
viewed blind people. But I also wondered if I was going to look like 
someone on /Star Trek/.


Typically, Classroom Champions had relied on Google Hangouts, video 
lessons, social media http://www.fastcompany.com/explore/social-media, 
and in-person athlete visits to pair Olympians and classrooms. Last year 
during the Olympics, 3,925 students in 44 schools engaged in the video 
chats, alone. Classroom Champions submitted its application along with 
more than 1,300 nonprofits and 500 developers and was one of five 
winners announced in July.


We were impressed by Lex's ability to mentor and inspire students 
through his work with Classroom Champions, Jessica Sapick, a marketing 
manager with Giving Through Glass, said. Their proposal to let students 
see the world from Lex's perspective worked well with Glass, since it 
also allows you to share your point of view with the world.


95% of teachers who participated in Classroom Champions said that the 
program improved their students’ digital literacy.


Mesler said he doesn’t anticipate the cancellation of Glass consumer 
sales to stall his program. In fact, he’s hoping there may be excess 

Re: [AI] talking ATM locator free android app with latest version 1.3 released today

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Ok, will send you soon.



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Re: [AI] talking ATM locator free android app with latest version 1.3 released today

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don't have favorite option?
sad...

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Re: [AI] talking ATM locator free android app with latest version 1.3 released today

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dear friend, please write if possible, what are the new improvements.



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Re: [AI] Request for suggestions for NVDA development

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very good suggestion dear haresh sir!!.
 regarding this matter, hope our developers will do something 
revelutionary things.




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Re: [AI] Request for suggestions for NVDA development

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hi, in malayalam language also, we are facing the same issue, doesn't 
have OCR engin for scanned PDF files.




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Re: [AI] Request for suggestions for NVDA development

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very good topic is discussing here.

glad to read all those things.



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Re: [AI] New version 1.1 released of mobile app Talking ATM Locator

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Hello, I  install the app and check its accessibility and usability.

 glad to say that,  its a wonderful app.

expecting, add to favorite option also in the next version onwards.



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Re: [AI] Firefox issues again

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I  too able to open the website without any ishue with IE 11.

so, I  would like to know the following:, so, I  would like to know




a.  which operating system r  you using?

b. tell me your Jaws version?

c. have you tried with IE 11?

d. did you tried restoring your system to earlier stage after facing 
this ishue?


Expecting your answers in the earliest.

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Re: [AI] w.r.t. exclusive mailing list for English language,

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Thank you

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[AI] VCD Cutter is not working in windows 7 any aultranative?

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Dear friends!!! I try to use VCD cutter in my windows 7 32 bit 
opperating system, but the result was sad,  so, any aultrnative for 
editing the vidios??


anyone knows how to edit vidios with total vidio converter apart from 
VCD cutter?




my sighted friend did years ago with total vidio converter, but as a 
screen reader user, I didn't get the idea how to do with the same.


so, dear experts, expecting your reply soon.

thanks in advance your friend,

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Re: [AI] exclusive mailing list for English language learners and teachers,

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due to less accessibility of google groop,  I  couldn't subscribe your 
list, do you have any purticular email id to subscribe the same?


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[AI] reposting the mail again, VCD Cutter is not working in windows 7 any aultranative?

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Dear friends!!! I try to use VCD cutter 4.0 with jaws 15 in my windows 7 
ultimate 32 bit operating system, but whenever I clicking VCD cutter 
icon, some command promt dialog is pop up and disappearing suddenly.


tried with 4.0 portable VCD cutter as well, but unfortunately no luck.

 so, anyone knows any alternative for editing the videos apart from VCD 
cutter?



anyone knows how to edit vidios with total video converter latest 
version apart from VCD cutter?
 one of my sighted friend did years ago with total video converter, 
version don't remember now, but as a screen reader user, I didn't get 
the idea how to do with the same.


 for better understanding, writing
my system configuration as well.



4 gb ram, 1 tb hard disk, I 3 processes, intal display driver etc.
 experts, your help will be highly apprishiated.


thanks in advance your friend,

Timy.


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Re: [AI] Paper of Interest: Sexual Experiences : of persons with Disabilities: Negotiating with Sexual Partners

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HTTP 403 Forbidden

could you please upload this file on sendspace or dropbox?

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Re: [AI] Now do Online Shopping with Quick Call

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 is quick call number is toolfree all over india?





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Re: [AI] 11 Tips To Perfect The Art Of A Google Search.

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soopper one.



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Re: [AI] hindu e paper.

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dear friend, are you sure it is hindu news paper??

 why iam asking is, they have sending two news papers such as hindu 
english news  paper and dinamani thamil news paper.


I  also got the same news paper, here it is working fine for me.

So, please, requesting you to double check the news paper  again.

if the problem persist,  ask them to share there contact number, then 
you can explain your problem directly.


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Re: [AI] accessible captcha selution

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According to my experience, solona is not a  trested one.



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[AI] Controversy As 12 Year Old Girl Accuses Blind Guardian Of Raping Her!!!!

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http://teebhabzie.wordpress.com/2014/08/19/controversy-as-12-year-old-girl-accuses-blind-guardian-of-raping-her/

The police in Lagos are investigating a visually
impaired man who has been accused of rape by a 12-
year-old minor (names withheld).
While some policemen at the Satellite Town Police
Division found it difficult to believe that a blind man
was capable of raping someone who had no problem
with her sight, others insisted that the minor was too
young to lie.
The Network on Police Reform in Nigeria, a non-
governmental organisation, felt that the indecision by
the police was a way to bury the case at the expense
of the victim.
It was gathered that the minor started work
as housemaid with the visually-impaired man,
identified simply as Kingsley, in January 2014. It was
said that the agreement was that Kingsley, who is
married with three children, would sponsor the
minor through school while she would assist the
household with domestic chores.
Trouble, however, started when the minor was
unceremoniously returned to her aunt last month on
account of what her guardians termed her unruly
behaviour and her tendency to always run away from
home whenever she was scolded for wrongdoing.
But the minor told the aunt that she ran away from
home after Kingsley raped her. The furious aunt was
said to have invited the police at the Satellite Town
Police Division and Kingsley was arrested.
Narrating the incident to the police, the minor said, I
ran away from home because daddy (Kingsley)
attempted to rape me a second time.
Before I ran away he had called me into his room to
help him read a text message from his phone. In the
process, he forcefully had sex with me. I ran away
when he attempted to rape me another time.
But the suspect said the minor's claim was false. He
wondered how possible it was for a blind man to
rape a girl who could have escaped.
He said that the minor was scolded for
wrongdoing and she did not return until the next day.
Kingsley said, The rape was an afterthought by the
minor's aunt to punish me for returning her
unceremoniously. It is a set up. The girl in question
could hardly read or write. As a blind person, my
phone is enabled with a software package that
enables me to make calls and read text messages
without assistance. When she ran away, it was our
landlord that brought her the following day. She did
not mention anything about rape as her reason for
running away.
She and her aunt must have cooked up the rape
issue to punish me. The medical test that allegedly
proved that she was defiled was conducted when
doctors were on strike. I will want this matter to be
taken to court because my name has been smeared.
However, NOPRIN said the police had compromised
on the investigation.
A statement by NOPRIN National Coordinator,
Okechukwu Nwanguma, said, Curiously, the police
are the ones echoing the argument that the alleged
rapist is visually impaired as if that will negate the
possibility that he could have committed the offence.
But the state Deputy Police Public Relations Officer,
Lelma Kolle, denied any complicity by the police,
saying justice would take its course.
He said, The matter was first reported at the Satellite
Police Division and the suspect was arrested. He was
granted bail because of his condition. The incident
has been transferred and is still under investigation
at the State Criminal Investigation Department.



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Re: [AI] hindu e paper.

[timy sebastian]

They are sending 2  papers one is thamil version of hindu another one is 
the original english news paper, so, make sure that your open the right one.

Thank you.



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Re: [AI] Regarding BlueStacks

[timy sebastian]

After installing bluestag, you have   to take sighted help for 
downloading and installing talkback from the play store.






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Re: [AI] hindu e paper.

[timy sebastian]

I  also got the mail from them  today morning, along with attached news 
paper.








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[AI] Using YouTube with a screen reader

[timy sebastian]

 Introduction

This following information will be helpful for people using screen 
readers as it explains the steps for using YouTube with screen readers. 
A screen reader is a software application that identifies and interprets 
what is being displayed on the computer screen. This information is then 
presented to a blind user as speech. Visually impaired or blind people 
use screen readers. This article provides step-by-step process for using 
YouTube making it easier for a new user to explore YouTube.


lightbulb icon *Please note:* The experience of using YouTube may not be 
same with all screen readers due to inconsistency of support of 
technology by the various screen readers. To learn more about using 
YouTube with a screen reader that supports Adobe Flash accessibility 
extensions, please see this accessibility feedback page 
http://www.google.com/accessibility.


Read on to learn more about using YouTube with a screen-reader and 
discover which keyboard shortcuts are available for the site:



 Creating a YouTube account

A Google account is needed to sign in to YouTube (ex. Gmail or Calendar 
etc.). If you do not have a Google account then you can go ahead and 
create one using the following steps:


1. Go to www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/
2. Click the create account link (located at the top of the page
   after the search button).
3. Complete the requested steps. Once you've signed up you'll have an
   account and can get started.

Having an account allows you to sign into YouTube and take advantage of 
YouTube's community features. You can upload videos, comment on videos, 
save videos to playlists etc.. These are just a few of the benefits of 
signing up for a YouTube account. You do not need to sign in to use some 
/basic/ features of YouTube. Such as, searching for videos, viewing 
videos etc..





 Searching YouTube and Search Results


   /Searching for YouTube videos/

1. Navigate to www.youtube.com
2. Navigate to the search edit box at the top of the page.
   *Please note*: Though the search edit box does not have a label,
   it is located at the top of the page, has a search button after
   it, and is the only edit box on this page.

3. Type a search term and press enter.


   /Search results/

 * The search results page has a did you mean section which
   suggests proper words if you misspelled the word(s).

 * Prior to the search results, various sorting options are
   provided to help you sort through the results.

 * Each of the search results has the following information:

1. A title of the video along with the duration of the video
   which is a link and a graphic. Hence, navigating using
   graphics would help navigating to and through the results
   quicker. Clicking on this will play the video.
2. A + sign which is link. Clicking on this will play the
   video as well.
3. The text added to queue.
4. The title of the video which is also a link. Clicking on it
   will play the video as well.
5. A snippet of the video.
6. Name of the individual who posted the video.
7. How many years ago the video was uploaded and the number of
   views it has had so far.

   Sometimes you will find a heading level 2, Related
   searches with heading level 3s below it. These are other
   search categories related to the search term(s) you typed.
   Clicking any of these search categories will take you to
   another page which has video results for that category. 





 The YouTube Flash Player

Once you click one of the search results, the flash player will load and 
the video will start playing automatically. Here are the components and 
layout of the flash player:


 * *Section headers*:
 o H1 for the title of the video
 o H4 for highest rated comments, all comments, and suggestions.

 * *The flash player has the following components*:

 o *Subtitles:*

   If a video has subtitles then the subtitles are placed at the
   top of the video. The subtitles section begins with the text
   subtitles start followed by two lines of subtitles and end
   with the text subtitles end. If the subtitles are on, the
   screen reader should say Subtitles Loaded. If the subtitles
   are off, press the Subtitles Unloaded button, the button
   should change to Subtitles Loading. Then after two seconds or
   so it should speak Subtitles Loaded. From that point on the
   subtitles will appear at the beginning of the Flash player.

 o *Play/pause button:*

   The button text toggles based on the current status of the video.

 o *Seek slider:*

   The seek slider is used to fast forward or rewind the video and
   to increase or decrease the volume. To use the seek slider,
   first turn off virtual cursor then tab to 

Re: [AI] The Hindu E newspaper

[timy sebastian]

I  also want to subscribe the same.





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[AI] Visually impaired pull off prize-winning march

[timy sebastian]

Students of Shree Ramana Maharishi Academy for the Blind at the 
IndependenceDay parade in Manekshaw Parade grounds on Friday

Mumbai Mirror
Maruthi K N was 11 when a bout of typhoid took away his vision. A large 
number of surgeries could not restore the light in his dark world. Now 
23, he was eagerness personified as he prepared to take part with the 
team from the Shree Ramana Maharishi Academy for the Blind at J P Nagar, 
in the Independence Day parade held at Manekshaw Parade grounds. Draped 
in the red-and-yellow team uniform, he said, I know the look of awe 
people have when they see a parade because I have seen it before. But 
for me now, the satisfaction is in hearing the thunderous applause the 
audience gives when we parade in front of them.


The students at SRMAB prepared for over a month for the day. Their 
coach, Thimmaiah, who is also their mobility and physical education 
teacher, spent at least three hours with them every day, teaching them 
things such as uniform marching and 90 degree turning - things that are 
basic for the visually gifted. Thimmaiah said, Since most of the 
students cannot see, we place in the front the partially-sighted ones 
who hold long canes which the students can hold in a line till the back. 
This way, the students at the back know when to take turns. Then we have 
to teach them to raise their arm and legs in unison with the rest of the 
contingent at a certain angle. But it is very pleasant to see the 
students pick up the activities as fast as the visually gifted students, 
and of course it is a matter of pride to see them perform this well in 
the Independence Day parades.


Thimmaiah has been with the school since 1992 and they have been taking 
part in the parades for the past 22 years. Except for thrice - when we 
came second twice and third once - we have bagged the first place 41 
times including the Republic Day parade. This is the 41st time we have 
received the trophy and that is no small feat, said Thimmaiah holding 
the trophy for first place in the specially-abled category.


S Eshwarappa, 18, was born blind and has never known the riot of colours 
that surface during Independence Day celebration. He said, I have been 
blind since birth and while I do not know what the celebrations look 
like, I do like the sound of applause. That encourages me to take part 
in each parade year after year. When Thimmaiah Sir asked me to take part 
in the parade for the first time, I thought it was a very difficult 
task. But he showed us the way and today we have come this far only 
because of him. I could never imagine visually impaired people taking 
part in such celebrations, but Thimmaiah Sir and the entire team at 
SRMAB have made it possible.



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[AI] BBMP’s death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture

[Timy Sebastian]

sourse:

http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/BBMPs-callousness-broken-arm-FIR-public-interest-litigation-Timy-Sebastian-drain-medical-transcription-company-EnAble-trust-blind-Jennifer-Pinto-Priya-Pinto-Timy-Sebastian/articleshow/39373878.cms?prtpage=1
The five-foot deep ditch in front of EnAble India on Sarjapur Road,
Koramangala I block, into which Timy Sebastian fell headlong and broke
his arm
A 31-year-old blind youth was lucky to survive with a broken arm after
falling headlong into a 5-foot deep ditch; now he has taken on BBMP's
callousness with an FIR
Even for a person with 20/20 vision, it is quite a feat to safely
cross the three-foot wide, uncovered shoulder drain just outside the
commercial building that houses EnAble India, a charitable trust for
persons with disability, located on Sarjapura Road in Koramangala I
block near Wipro Junction. Imagine then, the plight of a blind person
who uses a white cane to move around.

Misfortune struck Timy Sebastian, a 31-year-old blind postgraduate
from Kerala, who had come to the city to attend a computer training
programme at EnAble, when he fell inside the five-foot deep drain and
suffered a fractured humerus on the right arm and underwent a surgery.

While EnAble is housed in the second floor, the building is also
occupied by a medical transcription company, Lake System, in the first
floor. Concerned over the difficulties being faced by the visually
impaired people coming to EnAble India, staff at the medical
transcription company had made repeated requests to cover the shoulder
drain which was kept open for almost two months for desilting work.
Had the BBMP not turned a blind eye to the dangers of the uncovered
drain, Timy wouldn't have faced such a near disastrous mishap. And in
a pointer to its callousness, the spot where the mishap occurred is
still lying partially uncovered, even though Timy's visually impaired
friends are still frequenting the EnAble trust.



MISHAP MOCKS AT HC RULING

Timy, a native of Kottayam in Kerala, had come to Koramangala to
attend the training programme two months ago. He was put up at a
paying guest accommodation in the vicinity, which was almost one
kilometre away. Though completely blind, he is independent and uses a
white cane for mobility.

He is also comfortable using public transport as well as other
facilities. On July 25, around 12.30 pm, Timy had finished his class
at the institute and was stepping out to have lunch. Descending from
the steps and stretching his cane out to find his way on the road,
Timy noticed his cane wasn't coming in contact with solid ground. But
alas, it was too late to prevent that fall, said Timy's family members
speaking to BM from Kerala.

He fell headlong into the almost five-foot deep drain and broke his
right arm. Hearing his shouts for help, the owner of a departmental
store on the ground floor of the same building came running out and
rescued Timy. He was rushed to a nearby private hospital where he
underwent surgery and was hospitalised for almost five days. Since he
has been advised bed rest for almost two months, Timy was brought back
home to Kerala. The victim has also filed an FIR against the concerned
BBMP officials with the Koramangala police, the family members added.

The mishap occurred just two days after the High Court of Karnataka
ruled that pavements are the exclusive domain of walkers. The court,
on a public interest litigation (PIL) filed by city activists Jennifer
Pinto and Priya Pinto, had directed the Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara
Palike (BBMP) to remove all encroachments on footpaths within the next
three months. Specifically, the court empowered the civic agency to
clear obstructions to make the city pedestrian-friendly. But looks
like instead of clearing obstructions, BBMP seems to be putting them
up, as seen in the unfortunate incident involving Timy.

When contacted, Jennifer told BM, Timy Sebastian's case indeed
vindicates our stand. In fact the Association for the Visually
Challenged had impleaded in our PIL. I appreciate Sebastian's decision
to file a police complaint as people normally forget and move on. I
think sooner than later the court must make BBMP responsible for such
mishap and improper footpaths across Bangalore.

In another five days, Timy would have completed the training. He has
already found a job in a software firm for which the training was
mandatory. He would have been placed in any of the firms either in
Kerala or Bangalore from August. But now, we do not know what will
happen. After Timy recovers, he will be sent back to complete the
training. We are hoping that at least by then, the open shoulder drain
will be covered, his family members rued.

His medical expenses have totaled nearly Rs 1 lakh, which we have had
to bear. We hope this amount will be reimbursed to us since Timy was
an innocent victim, they added.

Sunil, the owner of the departmental store who had rescued Timy, said
that work was going on for the last

[AI] Physically-challenged girl mauled to death by dogs

[Timy Sebastian]

if this is the case, I don't no, how we visually impaired people will
escape  from streat dogs, specially in banglore and other places.

please read the news from below and understand how cruel it is.

  Physically-challenged girl mauled to death by dogs


 Special Correspondent


In a gruesome incident, a 17-year-old mentally and
physically-challenged girl was mauled to death by a pack of six stray
dogs at Kotha Venkojipalem in the city on Monday morning. The deceased
was identified as Mary alias Nookaratnam, daughter of Appala Reddy and
Lakshmi.

Apart from being mentally and physically challenged, she was both
speech and hearing impaired. Because of all the illness, the girl was
very thin, just about three-feet tall and was totally immobile.

While her father works as a security guard, mother adds to the family
income by serving as a domestic help. It was the duty of the couple to
feed the girl in the morning and leave her in a makeshift cradle in
the verandah of their hut, before going to work.

At about 10.30 a.m. on Monday, six stray dogs attacked and mauled her
to death. The pathetic thing was that she was neither able to fight
back nor scream for help. They even pulled her down from the cradle
and tried to drag her into the bushes, adjoining the hutment.
According to a neighbour, Ramalakshmi, “Whenever, she would feel
hungry, the girl would cry. When I heard her cry, I thought that she
was hungry. But when it continued for some time, I came and out and
saw six dogs dragging her away. I tried to chase the dogs away, but
they attacked me also. I called for help, and a few others joined in
chasing the dogs away. But by that time Mary was dead and her body was
torn open at various places.”

According to Appalanaidu, a neighbour, the dog menace has increased in
the hutment located on the hill slopes after GVMC let loose some dogs
in the neighbouring cremation ground, about a month ago. “The dogs
returned to lick the blood even after the body was taken away by the
police for post-mortem. We are afraid, since we have small children,”
he said.



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[AI] problem with paragraph mark help need arjently!!!!

[Timy Sebastian]

dear access indian friends, while using ms word 2010 iam facing the
new problem:, whenever   iam typing something, or, whenever  iam
copying something, paragraph mark is coming after each sentence.

here my question is:, how can I avoid this paragraph mark completely???

I found playing with jaws verbacity is not a good solution , if I
turned off also,  paragraph mark will remain, and the document
structure will not be good  atall.

so, dear experts, please suggest me arjently how can I rid out of this problem.


Thanks in advance,

Timy.



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[AI] Braille isn’t ‘embattled’

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http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-opinion/braille-isnt-embattled/article6038895.ece


Imagine a situation where you walk into your favourite restaurant and 
ask for the menu, only to be told it isn’t available. Chances are it 
wouldn’t stay your favourite for very long.


As a braillist — someone who uses braille — the dream for me is when the 
opposite happens. A small number of chain restaurants offer menus in 
braille; sometimes, they’re even up to date.


It is difficult to over-express the sense of liberation at being able to 
browse and choose your preferred pizza independently. And in Co-op 
supermarkets, where some of the own-brand labels feature braille, there 
is pride in being able to identify a bottle of wine from a label that 
few if any other people in the store are able to read.


All too often, though, finding anything in shops is a matter of random 
selection, peering in earnest, or asking for help. And just when it 
seemed the situation couldn’t get any worse for braillists, along come 
headlines suggesting the end is nigh for braille, that this 
communication lifeline is about to be cut off.


This week, Dr Matthew Rubery, curator of an exhibition on alternative 
methods of reading for blind people, described braille as “embattled.” 
He went on to say its biggest threat “is computer technology, which 
makes it much easier not to have to learn it. A lot of people fear 
braille won’t survive because it will be read by so few people. The use 
has declined and there are concerns about funding to keep it going.”


This seems to me a rather glass-half-empty view, although there is some 
evidence to support his argument. Anecdotally, it is claimed blind 
children are no longer being taught braille. This is said to be owing to 
sighted teachers who believe computer technology, and in particular 
synthesised speech, has rendered it redundant. Therefore, the teachers 
don’t need to learn braille either.


If this is true, and no other factors were to come into play, then the 
outlook might really look bad. But, like print, braille has gone through 
a process of evolution. It started out in classrooms as the equivalent 
of the slate — my five-year-old hands punched out each dot individually 
through a sheet of thick manilla paper. We learned to write it backwards 
and read it forwards.


Then Harold Wilson’s “white heat” age of technology ushered in the 
mechanical era. Classrooms echoed to the deafening collective rattle of 
15 or more braille machines — the Stainsby, the Perkins, the Lavender — 
pounding away at dictation or composition.


And now, like print with its tablets, Kindles and touch screens, braille 
has gone digital. And it is my belief that this could well mean it 
becomes more widely available and infinitely more useful. This is 
important because it means all children in future will be able to enjoy 
the same degree of literacy, not to mention the same levels of 
liberation and pleasure, as I do now.


Think of this: I am writing and editing this piece on an Apple computer 
using braille from an electronic display that drives pins into the 
correct shapes to form a line of braille text. Once the piece is 
published I will be able to go to the Guardian website on my iPhone or 
iPad, use Bluetooth to connect up a portable braille device, and read it 
along with you. The main problem currently is the cost of the 
braille-reading equipment: the cheapest is £900.


But, fellow reader, we are now in the age of the app and of haptic 
technology, which communicates through vibration and touch. It is 
already possible for me to download an app that will create on my touch 
screen a virtual braille keyboard on which I can compose texts, emails, 
tweets and Facebook updates in braille.


Meanwhile, the search is already on for the holy grail of braille — a 
means of creating dots without using expensive mechanical cells that 
make the shape of braille characters using pins. Then the world would 
truly be at our fingertips.


What is needed is an app that would turn digital text on your device 
into electronic impulses in the shape of braille characters, transmitted 
by the screen of your iPad or other tablet, to be read by touch. To go 
back to my restaurant quandary, all I would need to do would be to call 
up the menu online, put it through my haptic braille app, and read it on 
my screen.


Add into that mix a scanning app, and I could point my device at what 
was on the supermarket shelf and have the haptic braille app produce the 
package information.


And if you think this is hopelessly optimistic pie in the sky, it’s 
worth remembering that less than five years ago 96 per cent of all books 
produced would never be turned into forms accessible to blind people. 
But with the advent of e-books and existing technology, I am now able to 
read pretty much any book I want to in electronic braille.


So rather than seeing the end of braille, we could be entering a golden 

[AI] Google Glass and the blind market an interview please read it!!!!

[timy sebastian]

*18 May 2014*

*Roberta:* Once thought the stuff of science fiction, smart glasses that 
put the digital world right in front of your eyes are becoming a 
reality. A new project from Telstra is seeing apps for Google Glass 
changed the lives of people with disability. And here to tell us more is 
Online Editor for Media Access Australia, Eliza Cussen. Welcome Eliza.


*Eliza:* Hi Roberta.

*Roberta: *We have talked about Google Glass on the program before, but 
to refresh our memories could you tell us just what it is?


*Eliza:* Sure. Well basically Google Glass is a brand new type of 
device. It's like a smart phone but shaped like a pair of glasses. I 
think it's the best way to explain it. So it's a pair of smart glasses. 
So these are designed for you to see through, connect to the internet, 
and control with voice commands. In a similar way to people using Siri 
on an iPhone.


*Roberta:*Now what kind of application does this have for blind and 
vision impaired people?


*Eliza:* Well this is where it gets really exciting. As with most 
devices the joy comes from the apps that people make for it. And as the 
apps for vision impairment go, the sky is the limit with this device. 
The potential is just astounding. And of course the voice activated 
nature of Google Glass makes it perfectly suited for a blind or vision 
impaired person, even though that wasn't the original intention of it. 
So Google has started to release the product to developers so that they 
can start to make apps and software for it, and we're starting to see 
some really interesting projects. And as you said in the intro, one of 
these has been sponsored by Telstra, here in Australia, and a company 
called b2cloud has developed an app which basically turns Google Glass 
into a voice activated OCR camera. So they've released a little 
promotional video and in it we see Kelly Schultz, who's a Telstra worker 
who's blind. She uses Google Glass to identify things like bank notes 
and tell the difference between, in the video she's choosing between 
standard frozen peas and minted peas in the supermarket.


*Roberta*: Gosh.

*Eliza:* And the Google Glass it reads the packaging, identifies the 
difference, and announces it, This is a packet of minted peas. I know.


*Roberta:* This is great.

*Eliza:* I had goosebumps watching it, Roberta.

*Roberta: *I'll bet.

*Eliza:*Well Google Glass will also be able to help with navigation and 
orientation. So as we've talked about lots of times on the show before, 
Google Maps provides turn by turn navigation for pedestrians, which I'm 
sure a lot of listeners are already making use of, getting around the 
city. And Google Glass being able to recognise things like buildings 
you're standing in front of it will be able to tell you exactly where 
you are in the real world. So this is the game changer.


*Roberta:* What are the benefits of something like this over specialist 
technology made just for the blind market?


*Eliza:* So for me the magic of this is that it is a mainstream 
technology. It's something that's been marketed to everyone, but also 
happens to have huge benefits for disabled people. And I think this is 
really the future. Rather than creating specialist devices that are very 
expensive, that only blind people can use, it's about making mainstream 
technology applicable to blind people. And so that means that it isn't 
just the tool for access, it's a tool for inclusion. And what we really 
need to work hard to do is get app developers realising the value a 
device like this and helping to realise its potential for the blind and 
vision impaired markets.


*Roberta: *Now the big question: how much does it cost, and how do we 
get our hands on it?


*Eliza:* I cringe when you ask me this Roberta. I'm afraid these little 
beauties are harder to come by than hot cross buns in Spring. Yeah. 
Google, there's a real aura of mystery around this. It's all very James 
Bond. Google has only released a few hundred of them through the Glass 
Explorer program, which is currently only open to Americans. I've 
actually only ever seen one in the wild, so to speak, and that was in 
San Francisco, so I'm pretty sure the man wearing it was in fact a 
Google employee. Eventually these will be available in Australia. It is 
a matter of time. And we're expecting a price tag somewhere in the 
ballpark of $2,500. It is still a hefty investment for sure but I think 
it's one that could be worth considering for a lot of people.


*Roberta:* Well to find out more about access to media and technology 
visit Media Access Australia website, that's mediaaccess.org.au, or call 
the office with any questions 02 9212 6242. I've been speaking with 
Eliza Cussen, Online Editor for Media Access Australia. Media Access 
Australia is a supporter of this program.




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