Re: [AI] Its 25th Jan today: Kaabil movie review: Hrithik Roshan is out for revenge

[ishita kapoor]

Can’t we think above jaws and talks?
Come on friends it wasn’t documentary. It was commerssial film. So
watch with minimum expaectation.
Personally I liked everything about movie.
In my view they have tried to make the movie as much realistic as
possible keeping in mind that it wasn’t art film.
And rajesh sir the movie is far better as well as realistic than aankhe.


On 1/31/17, Bhupendra Tripathi  wrote:
>  After watching the movie, I  would like to share my thoughts as below.
> Pros:
> 1. It depicts that a blind person can be financially self-reliant,
> live an independent life doing domestic chores like cooking etc.   and
> has regular emotions associated with human beings like love, anger,
> frustration sarcasm, humour etc.
> 2. It shows that blind couples could make a  good match although I
> did not like the statement "two negatives cannot make a  positive" by
> the actress.
> 3. It shows that blind individuals have talents like dancing, playing
> instruments and dubbing/mimicry.
> 4. It shows them leading a  normal lifestyle - looking good, having
> fun, celebrating birthdays, going to Malls and Amusement Parks.
>
> Cons:
> 1. Nowhere in the movie, the use of accessible technologies like
> talking mobile phones or screen reader software in computers are shown
> except the use of "talking wrist watch".
> 2. Without sounding prejudiced, it re-inforces the stereotype that
> blind individuals do not fit well in white-collared jobs and can earn
> a  living by being a  voice artist/singers or playing musical
> instruments etc. The NGO work-profile of the actress could have been
> highlighted.
> 3. to make it more realistic, the blind hero could have been shown to
> have passion for body-building or undergoing physical training
> sessions before taking upon the revenge.
> 4.The blind couple could have shown a  bigger family/friends support
> system. They were shown to be little socially isolated with very
> limited friends both disabled or otherwise  and often left on their
> own even in their grave situations.
> 5. The title of the movie is used to ultimately prove that a  blind
> hero is "kabil" or capable only to take a  revenge  on his own without
> anyone's help.
> 6. The blind females are vulnerable is the message going back in the
> society. In my opinion,the self-defense by girls and quick decision
> making to save one's own life and other such tips  should have been
> shown.
> 7. It was not very clear why the female had to leave the job after the
> marriage and become a  home-maker.
>
>
> Overall, it lost a  golden chance to be more powerful disability-related
> movie.
>
> Regards
>
> Bhupendra Tripathi
> RBI
> 942607
>
>
>
> On 1/26/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Just a thought, When will a visually impaired person start using
>> assistive technology according to our dear bollywood?
>>
>> On 1/25/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>> even the dialogues sounded very cliched, from the trailer.
>>>
>>> i wish they'd consult a few members when they decide to represent a
>>> particular group. my observation is that they only try to get the
>>> physical aspects right. such as the eye-movements and expressions,
>>> walking with the cane, etc. but never attempt to get into the mind and
>>> replicate that. it is only the body of the disabled that fascinates
>>> the non-disabled. never the mind. i think that is the root cause of a
>>> lot of issues between the 2 worlds. right from personal relationships
>>> and social attitudes, which extend to artistic representations.
>>>
>>> On 1/25/17, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
 HMMM.
 So, it is more or less amitab robbing a bank in aankhen.
 Useless stuff, me thinks.
 Will watch anyway, but cannot guarantee will stay till the end!!


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 Roshan
 is
 out for revenge

 Watched the trailer. Too much violence!

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 Of avinash shahi
 Sent: 25 January 2017 08:26
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 Subject: [AI] Its 25th Jan today: Kaabil movie review: Hrithik Roshan is
 out
 for revenge

 Are you going?
 http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/movie-review/kaabil-movie-review-hrithik-roshan-yami-gautam-rakesh-roshan-star-rating-4489671/
 He is a dubbing artiste, she is a pianist. They are both
 happy-go-lucky with a thirst to live life to the fullest. They are
 both blind too but the way Hrithik Roshan and Yami Gautam play 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Writer guidelines

[ishita kapoor]

very true sanjay sir.
1  standard or gred lower scribe rule was really logical.

On 6/19/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is not only the UPSC exam being conducted on whole of the earth all
 the time. There are other exams conducted by the government where no
 special centers are designated for visually impaired candidates. To
 count, state public service commission, state judiciary, state higher
 education, state public prosecuting exams, UGC Net and so many exams
 are conducted all the time. Will you demand those stupid people to
 install CCTV cameras everywhere?  Why don't you demand that IBPS,
 those conduct exam using computer system, should provide screenreader
 in their system and get rid of scribe? Because nobody can argue that
 he doesn't know how to operate the computer, because it is necessary
 that the person must have the knowledge of computer to be appointed in
 banks.

 My argument is that, don't ask for the moon at least. In all
 examinations special centers can not be created for visually impaired,
 if it is done, it will cause hardships to us only.

 We are having legal quibbling by these arguments. the matter is
 simple, what you are demanding, mean to strengthen the invigilation by
 installing cameras etc. and not compromising on the unlimited
 qualification of the scribe, can never be accepted by the government.

 On 6/19/15, victor john victorjoh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe that this is the age of e governance. And the government
 from 2004 irrespective of which political party is in power is
 vehementaly promoting it. Now when cat exams can be held online using
 computers, then why can’t UPSC simply installs few cctv cameras at few
 centres for the blind. IBPS also hols its banking exams online these
 days. And online exams require constant supply of electricity. So when
 the problem of electricity can be resolved effectively while
 conducting these cat and IBPS exams, then why can’t government arrange
 the same for UPSC exams? I think that the way logistics are arranged
 for conducting these exams similarly they should be arranged for UPSC
 exams. In cat every year more than five lakh students sit for the exam
 and the exam is held online in single sitting.
 So lets not fight among ourselves. As of now UPSC or government has
 not come up with the argument that they will have logistical problems
 in installing cctv cameras. So lets speak our arguments here and lets
 not speak on behalf of them.
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Re: [AI] Writer guidelines

[ishita kapoor]

Over qualified scribe should not be allowed in any condition.
If I am going for bank exam I should not be allowed to take graduate scribe.
If we have over qualified scribe I don’t think any kind of strict in
vigilance would work.
Sorry to say but after 2012 many vi have got jobs in bank and other
field with the help of over qualified scribe.


On 6/17/15, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Dear Kanchan
 I am now reffering to point 4: if we have to specifically talk about UPSC,
 we can take a call on education qualification. However, the fallout shall be
 on the general guidelines on scribe. In the past, we had mulled upon various
 cinereous and we came to a conclusion, specifying educational qualification
 would pose detrimental to the interest of the blind candidate. To
 illustrate, consider that accountancy and book keeping is introduced in
 class13, now if we go by the rule the scribe should be junior by at least 1
 year, they would not be aware how to post the entries even though the
 candidate isdictating properly, again, the blind candidate has no idea at
 all how the scribe has gone about. Here, the scribe is not at fault, for he
 has no idea at all how the posting should be made and the blind person has
 to wrongly suffer as a result. This cannot be acceptable by any means.

 Technology has been an enabler for blind persons to take up newer avenues
 which was not possible earlier, therefore, the general scribe guidelines
 should factor in all such scenarios.

 If we relent to one body, then, other body shall pick it up and we shall be
 on a perpetual loop. Again, any concern that the scribe would superceed the
 answer by the candidate can be encountered by using videography etc. At any
 rate, the number of disabled candidate is not as large to stop UPSC to
 consider it. Video recording is commonly available on all present generation
 mobile phones. It is not a serious issue at all if one is willing to look
 into it.

 Again, Braille printer is just like any other printer and UPSC can consider
 to purchase one and not outsource it. These are not real issues at all but
 mere excuse to shirk decision. Paper leakages are not caused by this avenue
 and the commission need to focus on areas where leakages take place and not
 cry foul against disabled persons. UPSC cannot consider itself a supra body
 and it is well with the constitution and laws of the land.

 Harish Kotian


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of kanchan Pamnani
 Sent: 16 June 2015 18:45
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Writer guidelines

 1. Yes suprevision and invijulation   are our defences .
 2. On alternate formats there cannot be a compromise.
 It may take a while for the Examining Authorities to conduct exams on
 computers but in due course they must provide this option along with the
 braille option. Of course never forgetting the original scribe route.
 3. Choosing our own writer should not be compromised.

 The above 3 I think we all agree upon.
 4. I would like you all to consider the issue of writer
 qualifications.Please look at the representations atthe the end of my last
 email.
 Most of you will agree that there is some amount of prompting by scribes
 etc.
 Lets come out with a workable solution so that no honest hardworking VI
 suffers at any exam.
 5. I am toying with the thought of saying that the vi dont need seperate
 centres but can give exams at the regular centres.This has a plus and a
 minus. Lets see the mood.
 6. Any other issues?

 Therefore 4 above is very importantt.
Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



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 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Writer guidelines


 SO Kanchan Ma'm, have you prepared any arguments to be presented
 before UPSC and other officials in the next meeting?

 On 6/16/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 If we remain closed on the educational qualification issue, nothing
 will work. We will have to reach to a plausible resolution.
 We'll have to keep in mind, these guidelines will not only be
 applicable on UPSC and SSC, but it will cover all other examination
 conducting authorities. Therefore the issue of educational
 qualification of the scribe shall always haunt the authorities.
 Ok, we can take it other way round, let them fix that qualification
 criteria of the scribe in such a way that he shouldn't have passed
 the higher degree in the same subject in which the examinee is
 appearing.
 But it would be difficult to determine in competitive exams, because
 these exams have almost all the subjects of general studies.

 On 6/16/15, Mohib 

Re: [AI] Rohtak Hariyana: Auto operators start free travel facility for blind

[ishita kapoor]

Friends,
I am always against of such  free services.
But there are large number of visually impaireds who need such service
free of cost. Because they all are not on access india.
I mean to say they don’t have  enough money or ability to earn.
Because they haven’t got proper education.
So if drivers are ready to help them in the name of god then let them take help.
Whenever we will go there we would pay full amount. So they would
understand that all blind persons are not poor.
so let them enjoy this facility.

On 4/11/15, Murmuranjankumar murmuranjan2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
 Friends, its our prestige issue, we need not of mercy; we need of help and
 support. ThanksSent from RediffmailNG on Android

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 for blind
 I personally don't want to hit at Rohtak people, in my view they have
 begun this function by believing that they are contributing something
 to the society. although I disagree with such initiative, I respect
 their interest. thus, I believe that now its our turn to return. as a
 visually impaired, if I get the opportunity to roam in an around
 Haryana,
 I won't opt for Rohtak service. this is the way I can return and tell
 them that I don't want your free service. apart from that, I request
 our employed and affordable members, stop using concessions during
 travel. our negligence in paying the full transportation fee alone
 led to this unwarranted initiative. lets bring some legitimacy to our
 community, so lets stop claiming concessions in transportation by any
 means if we are employed and have the affordability.
 cheers.
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Re: [AI] Question About Net Banking of Bank Of India

[ishita kapoor]

sorry sir for crossed question. what about net banking of bank of
baroda? is it accessible?

On 11/15/14, HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI harshvardhan.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 Only diference is you have to click corporate link.
 If you have any difficulty feel free to contact me on mobile no. 9868515124

 Thanks
 HS Negi

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 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 5:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Question About Net Banking of Bank Of India


 hai, even i wanted to use net banking of boi for my company's current
 account. if any one is using it , please guide us.
 thanks in advance,
 rajesh parakh
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 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning

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 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:39 PM
 Subject: [AI] Question About Net Banking of Bank Of India


 Dear Friends,
 I want to use Net banking of BOI. It does not run on Internet explorer or

 any other brouzer, It only runs on their Special Brouzer called Star
 token.
 Does anybody use BOI net banking on the list? Does it supports jaws or
 NVDA.
 Thanks in advance
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[AI] about online stock broker

[ishita kapoor]

friends,
i have my trading account with angel broking. but their software is
not accessible. i have heard that the trading software of india
infoline is accessible but found their brokerage  littel higher. have
you ever tried rs security, ventura securities or zerodha securitie's
software? if yes then how accessible they are? if no then which one is
the most accessible wich low brokerage?



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[AI] about trading software of angel broking

[ishita kapoor]

Dear friends,
I am in need of your urgent guidance.
Well, I am considering angel broking for my trading account.
I heard that trading software’s of India bulls and India infoline are
accessible. Right now I am trading through icici web based trading
application, which is also accessible.
But charges of icici are quite high. And got better deal from angel broking.
So please share your experience with me.
If you have used or heard about angel’s trading software.



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Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature.
We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly
thanks to reservation.
Though we are enough capable.
There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors.
But such people can be counted by the tip of finger.
Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks.
Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind.
If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will
have to make his system  up to the expectation for the blind
And which is not always easy or possible.
Only awareness can improve our circumstances


On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 I know Avinash,  it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for
 them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the  female
 blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of
 going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I
 can't even begin to write about their state! It has  torne me apart! The
 female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind?

 Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I
 can with the limited or should I say no  resources!
 Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something
 somewhere
 will turn up and conditions will begin to improve!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of avinash shahi
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
 individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 You are right sir.
 But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to
 35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and
 invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal
 has rightly termed: forgotten youth with disabilities.
 On 7/3/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education
 and
 high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..!

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of avinash shahi
 Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
 individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed
 and dwelled upon in detail.
 So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious
 consideration for me at least.

 As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to
 the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out
  of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total
  number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on
  January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December)

 (http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs-
 but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/).
 Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on
 India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed
 with publick sector undertakings,  the biggest share has gone to
 persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from
 unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are
 identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise
 where are blind people stand today.

 Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on
 private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal
 dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have
 accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of
 a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English
 accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and
 Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We
 blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And
 

Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

Dear preety madam,
We are enough motivated I guess.
We all have accepted blindness.
We all know what we can do and what we can’t.
We all know what is situation and why.
But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then
optimistic talks
I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work
in banks for visually impaired.
Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc.
But this is not ideal job for us.
There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can’t
rely on  somebody will come and will read out form for us.
We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do
everything mindset.
I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing.
And I am learning from the person like you.
But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good
at everything won’t work in real world.


On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote:
 Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our
 disability.
 If we are blind, so what?
 Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
 individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear Ishita,

 Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is
 real bad! We all are  ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time.
 Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset?
 I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept  what we are
 getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as
 they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the
 situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get
 better very very slowly!

 If we remain depressed and  angry and disheartened,  where will we find the
 courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation?
 That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together  we
 can do something to make things better
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



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 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
 individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature.
 We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly
 thanks to reservation.
 Though we are enough capable.
 There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors.
 But such people can be counted by the tip of finger.
 Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks.
 Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind.
 If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will
 have to make his system  up to the expectation for the blind
 And which is not always easy or possible.
 Only awareness can improve our circumstances


 On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 I know Avinash,  it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for
 them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the
 female
 blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity
 of
 going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I
 can't even begin to write about their state! It has  torne me apart! The
 female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind?

 Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever
 I
 can with the limited or should I say no  resources!
 Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something
 somewhere
 will turn up and conditions will begin to improve!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver

Re: [AI] Now Avail the Service of Quick Call India!

[ishita kapoor]

i liked the service

On 7/4/14, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Hi
 Interestingly enough, they create a quick wallet to make your payments
 online, which you can periodically top it up.

 Harish Kotian

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Amit Bhatt
 Sent: 04 July 2014 15:48
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Now Avail the Service of Quick Call India!

 Factually this is not an exclusive service just for the blind, while other
 sighted people can also use this facility.
 The people who cannot surf the net for whatever reason, may use this service
 to get the required information.
 The given number is not toll free, its a paid service and normal call
 charges are applicable on the calls made to it.

 I had already had words with one of their representatives.

 Regards,

 Amit Bhatt


 On 7/4/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 would they have solution to image capture code? if not, what is the
 purpose of that quick call number.


 -Original Message-
 From: gunjan kumari
 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 3:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: jnuvision
 Subject: [AI] Now Avail the Service of Quick Call India!

 Dear list members,
 Greetings!

 As my subject line suggests, I would like to share a number, which is
 meant to facilitate visually challenged people by providing the
 instant internet browsing help across the country. However, I
 completely disagree with their assumption that it is difficult for
 visually challenged to access internet, we can certainly use the
 facility provided by them without critiquing it... Here goes the
 information:

Quick Call Brings Internet to Visually Impaired

 We are elated to share with you the establishment of Quick Call which
 is a free platform for assisted browsing on call..

 8459-111-111
 is a free help desk for information, entertainment  convenience.

 With your support, Quick Call may prove a boon for the visually
 impaired and blind.

 For the visually impaired and blind, surfing the internet has always
 been a cumbersome experience. Internet has proved to be a great help
 for everyone around but the blind  visually impaired have always been
 side-lined. Except a few applications, there is nothing much for blind
 people to cherish about internet and its utility.

 To resolve this problem face by the blind and visually impaired
 community, a new service with the name of Quick Call has been recently
 launched in India.
 Quick Call is a platform where anybody can dial
 8459-111-111
 to surf internet on call free of cost.

 The human operator on the other side surfs and reads the information
 on internet as per the caller's needs and directions.

 This may include:

 list of 1 items
 Reading news articles, astrology or share market updates Check movie
 timings, price comparisons, Wikipedia articles  Location help Pay
 bills  Place online orders Book restaurant tables, Buy movie tickets
 and much more.
 5. Or Ask anything that comes to your mind list end

 Blind people can now dial
 8459-111-111
 and ask for any query. Now they don't need to depend on specially
 designed devices, broadband connection, voice applications, sighted
 friends and more such stuff to surf internet. For everyone, internet
 is now just a phone call away.

 We request you to propagate the utility of Quick Call @
 8459-111-111
 to all students in your institution and in other similar institutions
 across India.

 Quick Call is a registered company operating from Delhi.

 To discover more about us, please visit our website www.quickcall.in.
 We would be glad to hear from you on mail or call.

 Thanks

 Team Quick Call

 Mob:
 973021

 Email:
 quickcallin...@gmail.com

 Web:
 www.quickcall.in


 --
 Gunjan Kumari
 M.Phil Scholar,
 Centre for English Studies, SLL/CSS
 JNU, New Delhi - 110067



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Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

Dear samir sir,
First of all congrats.
Well, I never wanted to say that no blind is working or can’t work in
private sector.
There may be few lucky people like you who got such handsome salary.
I also working with international call centre and was earning fine.
Though I have left that job myself. But I joined that cc as a non
disable. But if I ask another call centre to give me employment as a
blind individual I would not get job easily, it doesn’t mean that I
won’t get. But would face difficulty in convincing them
I have learnt through mailing lists that blind persons are equally talented.
But you will have to agree that very few people get proper job in
private sector.


On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like
 Microsoft and LPTI  and other companies with salaries going into lacs!
 So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are
 blind,
 but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve
 great hights!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Sameer
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM
 To: Access India
 Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals -
 Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


 Dear Ishita,

 I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
 completely

 blind  will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other
 partially  completely blind people working with the Reliance group in
 Mumbai.

 Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the

 salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability 
 qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the
 private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is
 not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind
 employees adequately.

 I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind
 individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind
 individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their
 sighted

 counterparts.

 Regards
 Mr. Sameer Latey,
 Mumbai, India


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Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

[ishita kapoor]

 of considerations play their role. like,
 parent concern, social environment, self-comfort, self-ease, long-term
 successful and loving relationship with partner as wel as with family. My
 point is that marriage is not just an emotional decision but it is also a
 rational, practical and irreversable(in normal condition) decision.

 Its true, emotions, love has its prominent place. And, I don't think any
 reason not to marry with visually-disable person, if a visually-impaired
 individual loves to other visually-impaired person. It all depends on
 circumstances and conditions.

 It is always a wise way to have win-win situation, when both persons feel
 themselves in winning situation.

 Sandeep





 - Original Message -
 From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:14:03 +0530 (IST)
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my  quriyocity  are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear Prashant,
 Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
 Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
 meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
 Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing
 factor going!
 It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
 are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
 have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
 because of their disabiity.
 Warmly
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 views.



 Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
 about what should be the ideal scenario.



 The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
 willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

 If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
 to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
 have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
 sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
 Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



 I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
 root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
 want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



 What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
 partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
 impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.



 When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
 caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.



 I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
 around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
 marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners. Finally
 they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen
 to be more open minded and accommodating.



 It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
 non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
 time will increase chances of finding partners.



 I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman.



 -Original Message-

 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor

 Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10

 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.

 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



 I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.

 Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or economical problems.
In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
any girl in able bodied world,
Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects
I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
to tariff kar saku.
I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
youngsters that please don’t do this.
Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
ya chahti hun.


On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 You are very right!
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Zoher Kheriwala
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
 blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
 to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
 sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
 other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
 related to our blindness.
 Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
 have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
 in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
 are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
 of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
 quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
 if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
 show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
 Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
 successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
 I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
 because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
 in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
 blindness.
 When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
 ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
 of blind partner.


 On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some
 self-interest for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A
 person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide
 emotional
 support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
 equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
 with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access
 India.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of bhawani shankar verma
 Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status.
 Such
 friendships will never give you any happiness.
- Chanakya

 There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no
 friendship
 without self-interests. This is a bitter truth.
- Chanakya

 both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is
 a
 social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other
 to
 

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

very true rajesh sir,
compromise or rare.
you summed up properly which i couldn't

On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Well said Ishita.
 Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
 compromise are rare..

 Please remember beggars are not choosers



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
 Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
 valid.
 I have 40 percent vision.
 And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
 dream unless he has social or economical problems.
 In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
 any girl in able bodied world,
 Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
 Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
 Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
 And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
 Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
 aspects
 I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
 The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
 And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
 saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
 to tariff kar saku.
 I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
 youngsters that please don’t do this.
 Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
 ya chahti hun.


 On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 You are very right!
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Zoher Kheriwala
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
 blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
 to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
 sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
 other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
 related to our blindness.
 Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
 have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
 in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
 are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
 of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
 quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
 if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
 show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
 Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
 successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
 I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
 because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
 in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
 blindness.
 When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
 ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
 of blind partner.


 On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be
 some
 self-interest for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end.
 A
 person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide
 emotional
 support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
 equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
 with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on
 Access
 India.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

[ishita kapoor]

dear kanchan madam,
osama bin laden  didn't have blind parents.
You have generalized simple coincidence

On 7/2/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 same is applicable on sighted parents.

 -Original Message-
 From: Amar Jain
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:30 AM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind

 partners

 My idea of asking was never to convey that all parents who are blind
 their children would become criminal.

 I just wanted to understand as too how do parents with blindness deal
 with such challenges. I have also seen cases where because of
 blindness one parent is considered less important in house after a
 point of time.

 And I have also seen cases where both blind parents have not been able
 to give adequate education to their children. But of course, that is
 not to say that all do the same.

 So if you and others can come out of their instant emotional
 reactions, then I can get a proper answer. The idea is not to defame
 anyone. Its just to understand the technicalities.

 Regards,
 --
 Amar Jain.
 Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only.


On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing
 wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
 towards ourselves as beggers!

 Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
 first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going
 to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
 referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
 beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
 ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
 ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do
 this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
 differently? The world perceives you  in the same way that you look at
 yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are
 choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we
 get  treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you
 will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by
 conditioning.

 Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have
 equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best
 of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
 Warmly
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Asudani, Rajesh
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Well said Ishita.
 Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
 compromise are rare..

 Please remember beggars are not choosers



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
 Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
 I have 40 percent vision.
 And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
 dream unless he has social or economical problems.
 In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
 any girl in able bodied world,
 Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
 Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
 Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
 And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
 Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
 aspects
 I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
 The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
 And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
 saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
 to tariff kar saku.
 I don’t have

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

We can charm the world with our personality.
But a able bodied person has right to choose equal life partner and we
can’t take away this right by just motivating ourself.
eye plays important part in over all personality.
and it plays bigger role in marriage market.

On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear preety madam,
 I can understand through your real example that marriage between
 disable and non disable is not always disastrous
 But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
 If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
 accept blind person?
 Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
 Blindness is big problem.
 Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
 Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
 will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
 If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
 done really great job.
 If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
 se nahi kar paai.
 Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
 People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
 blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
 life partner.
 Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi
 only.


 On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all
 doing
 wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
 towards ourselves as beggers!

 Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
 first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we
 going
 to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
 referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
 beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
 ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
 ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to
 do
 this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
 differently? The world perceives you  in the same way that you look at
 yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we
 are
 choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way
 we
 get  treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what
 you
 will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by
 conditioning.

 Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have
 equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the
 best
 of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
 Warmly
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
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 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Asudani, Rajesh
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Well said Ishita.
 Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
 compromise are rare..

 Please remember beggars are not choosers



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
 Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
 valid.
 I have 40 percent vision.
 And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
 dream unless he has social or economical problems.
 In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
 any girl in able bodied world,
 Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
 Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
 Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
 And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
 Because everyone has right to choose

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
to live willingly with the person with disability.

I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
blind person.


On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
 However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole
 thing defeats the very purpose.
 Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
 may...

 If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear  Ishita,

 one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a
 choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is,
 keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being
 contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and
 admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to
 come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too
 face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something
 that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
 compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what others
 are saying or thinking about me'?
 If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never
 live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
 members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
 anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home
 at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of
 having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on,
 every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean
 that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only
 live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will never
 happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
 change for each one of us.
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear preety madam,
 I can understand through your real example that marriage between
 disable and non disable is not always disastrous
 But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
 If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
 accept blind person?
 Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
 Blindness is big problem.
 Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
 Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
 will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
 If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
 done really great job.
 If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
 se nahi kar paai.
 Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
 People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
 blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
 life partner.
 Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi
 only.


 On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all
 doing
 wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
 towards ourselves as beggers!

 Life is our choice, you are whatever

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

dear bhavani sir.
those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
backward sighted boy easily.

On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
 only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
 anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
 to live willingly with the person with disability.

 I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
 Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
 it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
 blind person.


 On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
 However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
 whole
 thing defeats the very purpose.
 Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
 may...

 If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear  Ishita,

 one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people
 a
 choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do
 is,
 keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being
 contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and
 admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
 to
 come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
 too
 face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
 something
 that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
 compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
 others
 are saying or thinking about me'?
 If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
 never
 live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
 members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
 anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
 home
 at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of
 having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come
 on,
 every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
 mean
 that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
 only
 live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will never
 happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
 change for each one of us.
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director



 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
 Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear preety madam,
 I can understand through your real example that marriage between
 disable and non disable is not always disastrous
 But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
 If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
 accept blind person?
 Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
 Blindness is big problem.
 Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
 Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
 will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
 If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
 done really great job.
 If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
 se nahi kar paai.
 Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
 People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
 blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
 life partner.
 Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in
 majburi
 only.


 On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Hey, who are these beggers

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normal people interested in marrying blind partners

[ishita kapoor]

@amar,
Less possible change can be considered as exception.
And exceptions are everywhere.
i have just expressed my views. it doesn't mean i am not positive person.
in fact i am realistic.
That is why I believe that we can do lots of things but still we are
becharas somewhere.

On 7/2/14, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Rajesh Sir: too harsh to classify ourselves as beggers. If someone is
 able to accept you with your disability for a life-long relationship,
 and otherwise you are at par with others in terms of education,
 finance, and otherwise,then where does begging come into the picture?

 @Ishita:I can understand your situation. You are at a stage where the
 little vision also matters for anyone in that circumstance.

 I do not completely disagree with your views; but what I would only
 say that don't keep this thought as a harsh bottem line. Thereby you
 will be closing your mind for a change which is not impossible to
 happen though howsoever less possible it may be.

 Regards,
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in marrying blind partners

[ishita kapoor]

@amar You are just thinking of children.
But if I am blind and if I marry sighted person in that case we both
will have to lose a lot
I will have to compromise with his education, social status or earning.
If he is well educated, socially perfect and economically sound then
he won’t accept me rather he won’t have any reason to accept me.
At the same time he will always remember that he had to marry me
because I had nice job or he couldn’t find proper girl in able bodied
society.
And if I marry with blind person and if we both are totally blind then
we can bring our children properly if we have proper income
For education we can hire personal teacher.
For mobility we can keep full time driver.
In that case also we may face difficulties but it would be 1000 times
better then compromise.


On 7/2/14, Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Rajesh Sir: Noted with thanks.

 @Bhawani Sir: somehow I skipped your reply. I get what you are saying.
 Lets not talk of the higher studies. Would be happy   to understand,
 with a simple illustration like this.

 I am blind and you are sighted. May be we are equal in terms of
 education. You can help your child progress at a very young age.

 Examples could be proper hand writing, well maintained body language,
 helping child with the home work, projects (which even sighted people
 find challenging now a days due to the increasing educational
 competition), fansy dress competition, eating etiquettes, drawing,
 etc. etc.

 You could play with your kid in amusement parks and let him do
 whatever he wants. Whereas I may not be able to take part into certain
 activities.

 You can see and safeguard your kid in a park even if he is playing
 against your will. I cannot do so unless he gets hurt because there is
 no way for me to see as to what is it that he is doing and whether it
 is fine for him to do at this young age or not. I can simply be
 worried and be hopeful that all goes well.

  In such a case, is there anything specific we as individuals could do
 to make sure that there is a good connect between you and your
 children or the answer is that the children develop that understanding
 slowly in life?

 Now if I am blind and my spouce is blind, what are the solutions which
 people adopt?

 To my mind the answer could be either that you depend on the support
 of teachers (assuming that even they take the pain as if it was their
 own kid), or you depend on your family members who are non-blind.

 That is one of the major challenge which I feel a blind couple can be
 confronted with. And I want to understand based on the personal
 experiences of the members the ways to tackle with the same.

 Regards,
 --
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 Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

this is problem with scholars.
they know everything and they can say everything

On 7/2/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think we all beg to be loved, caressed and respected... Aren't we?...

 And If I simply put it, in India the weight attached and feelings
 associated with girlfriend/boyfriend, marriage, love, wife, husband
 and dchildren can make anybody beggar at times. Sociology of human
 heart is very tricky to understand,you know. Where is that guy who
 started this thread? Could you please wind up with your final comment,
 please?


 On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear bhavani sir.
 those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
 backward sighted boy easily.

 On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
 only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
 anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
 to live willingly with the person with disability.

 I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
 Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
 it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
 blind person.


 On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
 However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
 whole
 thing defeats the very purpose.
 Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
 may...

 If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear  Ishita,

 one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving
 people
 a
 choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to
 do
 is,
 keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of
 being
 contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by
 and
 admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
 to
 come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
 too
 face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
 something
 that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
 compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
 others
 are saying or thinking about me'?
 If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
 never
 live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
 members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
 anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
 home
 at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead
 of
 having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So
 come
 on,
 every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
 mean
 that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
 only
 live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will
 never
 happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
 change for each one of us.
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear preety madam,
 I can understand through your real example that marriage between
 disable and non disable is not always disastrous
 But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
 If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
 accept blind person?
 Madam, this isn't question of Indian or American mentality.
 Blindness is big problem.
 Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
 Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Dear Prashant,
 Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
 Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
 meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
 Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
 socializing
 factor going!
 It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
 are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
 have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
 because of their disabiity.
 Warmly
 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
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 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia. in
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
 on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
 views.



 Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
 about what should be the ideal scenario.



 The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
 willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

 If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
 to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
 have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
 sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
 Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



 I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
 root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
 want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



 What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
 partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
 impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.



 When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
 caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.



 I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
 around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
 marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners.
 Finally
 they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen
 to be more open minded and accommodating.



 It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
 non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
 time will increase chances of finding partners.



 I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman.



 -Original Message-

 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor

 Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10

 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.

 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



 I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.

 Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
 valid.

 I have 40 percent vision.

 And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
 dream
 unless he has social or economical problems.

 In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any
 girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in marryingblind partners

[ishita kapoor]

very true bhavani sir.
if they can earn 60 to 7 per month i am sure they can have the best life.
though how much we need to spend good life that is subjective.

On 7/2/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 unfortunately, so called sighted and educated couples also engage tutor for

 their children. where they are doing their homework and reading writing.
 secondly, now these days most of the education system has shifted towards
 digitisation. If me and you can write a mail to accessindia, then a blind
 couple can learn computers and educate them. the culture of amusement parks

 still awaited in small cities of india. this culture is suitable in metro
 cities. the married couple whether sighted or blind often stay with their
 one or more relative, why the blind couple can not stay with their sighted
 relative? Even a sighted house wife requires a kaam waali baai, then why it

 is not applicable for blind? sighted house wives are just watching tv and
 passing the time ideally at home, why they don't do all their business at
 home?
 however, I am a strong opinion that in case of blind, both husband and wife

 should be an earning partner. this will subsidise their disadvantages due to

 blindness. if one of them is not earning, then it will increase the
 expenditure, because we have to pay for each and every services.
 - Original Message -
 From: Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in
 marryingblind partners


 @Rajesh Sir: Noted with thanks.

 @Bhawani Sir: somehow I skipped your reply. I get what you are saying.
 Lets not talk of the higher studies. Would be happy   to understand,
 with a simple illustration like this.

 I am blind and you are sighted. May be we are equal in terms of
 education. You can help your child progress at a very young age.

 Examples could be proper hand writing, well maintained body language,
 helping child with the home work, projects (which even sighted people
 find challenging now a days due to the increasing educational
 competition), fansy dress competition, eating etiquettes, drawing,
 etc. etc.

 You could play with your kid in amusement parks and let him do
 whatever he wants. Whereas I may not be able to take part into certain
 activities.

 You can see and safeguard your kid in a park even if he is playing
 against your will. I cannot do so unless he gets hurt because there is
 no way for me to see as to what is it that he is doing and whether it
 is fine for him to do at this young age or not. I can simply be
 worried and be hopeful that all goes well.

 In such a case, is there anything specific we as individuals could do
 to make sure that there is a good connect between you and your
 children or the answer is that the children develop that understanding
 slowly in life?

 Now if I am blind and my spouce is blind, what are the solutions which
 people adopt?

 To my mind the answer could be either that you depend on the support
 of teachers (assuming that even they take the pain as if it was their
 own kid), or you depend on your family members who are non-blind.

 That is one of the major challenge which I feel a blind couple can be
 confronted with. And I want to understand based on the personal
 experiences of the members the ways to tackle with the same.

 Regards,
 --
 Amar Jain.
 Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

How idealistic talking going on?
I can’t ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
hiper active.
If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
to accept blind life partner willingly.
Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
When a non disable doesn’t get proper match in his world then only he
or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
nothing.
I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.


On 7/1/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it in
 two blog posts

 George

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 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
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 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblindpartners

 How many words? Will take me a few days though.
 Preeti

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 Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblindpartners

 Hey Preeti,

 Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a blog
 post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblindpartners

 When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
 but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have made
 the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
 bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth... how are her/his eating
 habits... and the other daily habits and what can tip off the bad temper
 switch... all these things are not found out for certain till you begin
 living together like husband and wife!
 So there is a great deal of adjustment, and if you really have chosen the
 spouce with  matching values, you may be in good luck for a lasting
 relationship... a happy one!
 Preeti

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 Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:50 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
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 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblindpartners

 I remember of my childhood story, I use to get 10 rs. To spent every
 day. After buying Panipuri with that money I use to think I should
 have bought bhel instead.
 The point I want to make that whatever you want to decide for your
 marrege  you should be sure that whatever you are choosing should be
 best for you and make sure that your partner should also think that
 you are the best possible choice. So both of the partners can live
 happyly. The relation based on
 compromise and pressure may or may not last long, but 1 thing is sure
 that, It will not urn happiness to any of them.
 In the jurny of life, you should be clear about your expectation from
 your partner [the expectation   should 

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

Hi nikita,
Yes you are right; we can touch clothes of our friends.
But in office?
Can I ask my manager or other person working with my institute that:
are sir ya madam log apke kapdo ki kafi tariff kar rahe hai muje chhu
lene do to mai bhi tariff kar sakun?
Of course not.
Here my point is: why a non disable decide to marry blind person?
In my view if he or she doesn’t get proper match or you are earning
handsomely then only he or she will think to accept us as life
partner.
I know that the picture is not as gloomy as it appears in my mail. At
the same time it is not as real as your mails.
We have limititation and noone wants kamzor life partner.
We may get rather we can easily get non disable friends.
But a non disable will never accept us as life partner without solid majburi.


On 7/1/14, Nikita Vaid nikita.v...@bankofbaroda.com wrote:
 Ishita,
 I understand your concern. But let me tell you that  the picture is not all
 that gloomy.
 If you are good friends with some one especially  in the same gender, then
 why will some one not let you get a feel of or describe his or her clothes
 etc. there is no questions of being over  confident or hyper active, this
 will anyways not help it..
 yes I agree that especially in the arrange marriages its difficult but not
 impossible jus because of blindness. A lot however also depends on luck. Why
 do we as blind persons have a tendency to remain so different / isolated
 from others in our general social live? Is in it that we assume a lot of
 things - especially negative ones on our own?

 Can we just try and change our own outlook to ourselves at least?

 Thanks and warm Regards,
 Nikita V. Raut,
 Senior Manager [HR]
 Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,

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 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:33 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblindpartners

 How idealistic talking going on?
 I can't ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
 her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
 hiper active.
 If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
 to accept blind life partner willingly.
 Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
 Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
 When a non disable doesn't get proper match in his world then only he
 or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
 nothing.
 I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.


 On 7/1/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it
 in
 two blog posts

 George

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 Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
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 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblindpartners

 How many words? Will take me a few days though.
 Preeti

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 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
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 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblindpartners

 Hey Preeti,

 Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a
 blog
 post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.



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 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
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 concerning
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 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblindpartners

 When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
 but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have
 made
 the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
 bathroom... how he/she brushes

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested inmarryingblindpartners

[ishita kapoor]

First of all, I am against of playing such a big gamble with my life.
I really don’t believe that a non disable can willingly marry a disable person.
If he or she doesn’t get proper match in non disable world then only
he or she will consider disable partner.
Or if a the non disable is poor or uneducated and disable earns
handsomely then the possibility of acceptance is there.
Though exceptions must be there.
After all marriage is question of entire life which has nothing to do
with charity.
i am failed to understand why we all are eager to marry non disable?
my father won't allow my sighted, smart and educated brother to marry
a blind girl willingly  even my brother will not think in his dream to
marry blind girl.
so please accept reality and enjoy life.

On 6/27/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't be anxious. Play the game. You've the chance to win.

 On 6/27/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 ofcourse it is a gamble.


 -Original Message-
 From: Ravindra Jadhav
 Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:47 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested
 inmarryingblindpartners

 means marage is one type of gamble and about life patner?
 Now really I am very ancious what will happen in my future.

 On 6/27/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 also take note that you can't throw this lottery ticket even if you lose
 it!


 -Original Message-
 From: Neeraj Singh
 Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:15 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblindpartners

 vary good example sir. Regards. Neeraj singh music teacher jnv .
 Mobile 09630305273

 On 6/27/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 nobody can guarantee of a successfull married life. take it like a
 lottery
 ticket. If you would get good partner you are luckey, otherwise you
 will
 become a philosopher! smile!

 - Original Message -
 From: Radha r.radh...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
 marryingblind

 partners


 Preeti mam,

 Inspiring words of yours, provoking to fetch a  amazing life partner.
 You've  defined the real value of life and  relationship, that we can
 trust for our entire life.
 I  strongly believe the statements, we get what we give to this
 worldin any relationship. It is really awesome to get a  friend as
 our life partner and want to hold a  friendly partner.
 I  must say, the person who miss you is a  great loser  in his life,
 dear mam, isn't it?
 Many thanks, indeed, please contribute for our life road path.

 On 6/26/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Interestingly it is irrelevant alright! The only thing is that
 sighted
 people  are not conditioned to marry us blind people. The idea sounds
 crazy
 to them! And interestingly blind people want only to marry them
 sighted
 people! This kind of marriage is a marriage of  convenience! But,
 usually
 these kind of marriages do not last... and if they do... they are
 only
 being
 pulled along because parting ways is not liked  by society! As you
 may
 know,
 I married twice and both my husbands are sighted! No I don't live
 with
 them
 both! I had to leave the first one for the compatibility was
 missing...
 and
 I did not know it till I began to live with him after we were
 married.
 But
 the second time over, everything in our marriage is  not as it should
 be...
 my husband is ten years younger, sighted, his first marriage and
 belongs

 to
 a different class and cast! But, we have had seventeen years of a
 great
 partnership and friendship! Now don't tell me that this is one of its
 kind
 of case... for most of us are scared to be honest even to ourselves.
 If
 we
 make a mistake,  we lack the courage to stop making the mistake and
 get
 away
 from it! We just keep living the mistake for  making the correction
 and
 trying again is not welcome by society and family! What a waste of
 life?
 One
 only lives once and let us face the facts. Let us look for good human
 beings
 and not try to match requirements just as we do when we go shopping!
 For
 being single is much better than to live in a marriage with the wrong
 partner. He/she may not be good with you, but may just be the right
 one
 for
 someone else... so let us give ourselves a chance once again and live
 happily!
 Preeti

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Re: [AI] Download SBI PO call letter

[ishita kapoor]

hello sir, what is scribe guideline?

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 download SBI PO call letter from the link below.
 http://ibpsreg.sifyitest.com/sbipoofmay14/login.php?appid=c134alqasaeiqsdindwe

 warm regards,
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Re: [AI] objection on commentary of Navjot Singh Siddhu in IPL on Satmax

[ishita kapoor]

Thank you sir for posting this.
Even I also got hurt by listening that commentary.
There were another person with siddhu  also there who barked badly
regarding blind.
I don’t remember his name, he may be gaurav kapoor or ayaz.
If they could have said about minority or sc people could have killed them.
But they insulted disable so no objection.
I am not in position to do anything so I attribute all uncultured
abuses to both of them.
Though I love to listen siddhu but this was to much.
I hope somebody will take action against both of them from this mailing list.


On 5/9/14, sandeepgau...@ntpc.co.in sandeepgau...@ntpc.co.in wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I am listening commentary of IPL 2014 on satmax since its inception.

 As you all aware, Navjot Singh Siddhu (one of the hindi commentator) use
 words like andha, behra, goonga, langda, loola in connection with insulting
 comparison.
 Its very embarrasing for a handicap person while listening commentary with
 his/her family members.

 for instance: he yesterday said like,
 andha kya jaane sone (gold) ka rang (colour or like that).
 Not only it create embarrasment, but it also spreads very cheap source of
 outlook among society towards all handicap persons.
 Entertainment does not mean, whatever is coming in your mouth, you will spit
 it out.

 I notice one more thing, most of his lines of poems or so called idioms are
 his own made (means not extracting from literature)

 My opinion is that he should get legal notice from CCPD or some court
 immediately so he should stop using categories of handicap community in his
 cheap lines of poems or idioms.

 There are so many other hindi commentators in IPL 2014 like, Ajay Jadeja,
 Chetan Sharma, Wakar Yunus etc. who never use such cheap language in their
 commentary.

 If I am right, pls tell me the way by which he can get legal notice
 immediately so that he can be stopped for using such cheap comparison rest
 of IPl 2014.

 Regards

 Sandeep



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Re: [AI] Help needed from friends in Gujarat for an arti cle

[ishita kapoor]

What Gujarat government has done and what not can be debated.
But we can’t cast our vote on the base of it.
Or you can’t change voter’s mind by posting this subject.
We are citizen of India first. Then we are
blind/shahi/kapoor/poor/muslims/gujarati/madrasi.
Our vote should be for over all India.
I am not diverting the subject but writing by understanding the real
intention behind this post.
Pamnani madam has shared beautiful thoughts so no need to write down it again.


On 4/29/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:




 Humans have limitations and act depending on
 their circumstances. A forthright denial, however, is a thousand times
 better than keeping people on false promises.

 We all are friends and it would be good if we find any ten reasons behind a
 disagreeable behaviour of our friend. But you can disagree and do what
 generally people do. Good luck for IAS!
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 28-Apr-2014, at 4:55 pm, bala9119
 bala9...@gmail.com wrote:

 I feel astonished to read about agitation. if we are calling for
 agitation, we must have had the concern to assist the agitators to
 agitate instead of attracting the attention by calling others to
 agitate. after hearing that blind issues could make a blind fedup, i
 wonder that, are the powerful blind powerless to blind? this is not
 only from the few, we have approached many including a person from the
 bureaucracy, Mr. Ravi prasad IAS to talk about the issue. as soon as
 he heard we are the persons with visual challenges, he has cut the
 call and repeated tries from our side received no result but failure.
 you people may not be interested to talk or to project yourself as
 blind because you are in a good standard of living, but a polite way
 of repudiation would have made us to feel that we have spoken to a
 powerful blind who can represent the visually challenged community and
 pave a way for the needy in the society. unfortunately, these 2
 responses, one from the solicitor and the next from the bureaucrat
 created a different perception that is far from being innocuous.
 thank you.
 --
 It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do with
 what we have.

 With Sincere Regards

 Balanagendran. D
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 Skype: balanagendran
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Re: [AI] Blind RJ spins tune of inspiration!!!!!

[ishita kapoor]

I am not trying to target anyone.
But this story is not impressive at all.
I have seen many blind girls and boys who have achieved a lot then this girl.
I couldn't find anything in this story, which is called impressive.


On 3/15/14, rohit gowlikar rohitgowlika...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/15/14, timy sebastian timys...@gmail.com wrote:

   Blind RJ spins tune of inspiration

 Mar 15, 2014, 03.39AM IST TNN[ Ragini Bharadwaj ]

 AHMEDABAD: Kalgi Raval, 18, is completely blind but she more than makes
 up for her disability with her boundless confidence and dedication. She
 dropped out of a mainstream school after Class 5. She wanted to appear
 in the board examinations as an open school candidate but, for that, she
 had to be 18 years old. On Thursday, Kalgi's wish was finally fulfilled
 when she appeared in the first SSC paper.

 Kalgi is no ordinary blind girl. She is a trained radio jockey and works
 at the Gujarat University (GU) radio station. Last year, she was the
 compere for the `Chalo Gujarat' event. She aims to start a band of five
 blind girls and give performances, the proceeds of which will be used to
 fund education of girls in rural areas with the same disability. In
 cities, parents are aware but in villages blind girls are seen as a
 liability. I wish to fund education of girls who want to study so that
 they can be independent, said Kalgi.

 She has spent long hours studying for the board exams. She was coached
 personally by teachers of the HB Kapadia School. Earlier, she had become
 disheartened when she found that there wasn't much study material
 available as audio books or in Braille script.

 She then approached the authorities of HB Kapadia School who responded
 positively to Kalgi's request for help. She was supported by teachers
 Gursimram Kaur and Vijaylaxmi Pandit who read out the science textbook
 to her for two hours daily and taught her by drawing diagrams on her
 palms. Teachers Ishita Patel and Khushnuma Solai taught her social
 studies.

 The teachers said that Kalgi is a powerhouse of energy and her
 willingness to study had encouraged them to spend time teaching her
 after school hours.




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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

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hello shireen,,
i was talking about roland e09 in, not e09.
e09 in has more indian instruments. and tones of that keyboard are
switter and more professional in compare to old e09.

On 3/14/14, TS Negi ts.negi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank yoou very much sir.

 --
 From: Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:12 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

 hi,

 1st, please note, that all fully professional key-bords are priced
 above 5. so the range u are looking at, are the semi-professional
 ones, which are also not bad, but it all depends on your requirements
 and what is your idea of professional.
 if you want it for bolliwood live shows, then yes, the roland e09 is
 quite good, and u could also look at the corg P A 50.
 if u want 1 for programming, or western music, then you will have to
 invest a bit more.
 its best to go to a show room that has all varieties, and c what suits
 your needs best.

 if you want, once you have done that and narrowed down to 2 or 3
 keybords, then you could perhaps write to me off list, and i'll help u
 select the best from them.

 hope that helps,
 best,
 shireen.

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 Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not beyond
 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
 Thank you
 Regards
 TS Negi


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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

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you may consider roland e09 in.

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 Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not beyond
 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
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Re: [AI] doubt regarding accessible mobile phone:

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very true  mahesh sir,

On 2/16/14, Mahesh S. Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 With Android, when you use TalkBack, you have to doubletap to click
 something. So it is unlikely that you would click something by
 accident just by exploring the screen.

 On 2/15/14, srinivas bangalore_11 srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi friends,
 Hope you are all doing good.

 Few days ago, I posted an query regarding accessible mobile phone with
 screen reader but not nokia.
 Fortunately, I got good response from this forum.

 When I went to buy phone on last sunday, one person asked a trickey
 question.
 Actually, he is sighted person and he is working in android showroom.
 Since we know each other, he asked me When we open various websites
 like gmail or youtube, there will be some advertisements comes before
 that websites. even I also observed this in my laptop also. Since it
 is touch pad, if we click by mistake, we need to pay a lot for that.
 And first time I am using these kind of phones. 

 Can anyone guide me in this regard as well?

 With best regards,
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Re: [AI] Valentine special: Is disability really a barrier to love?

[ishita kapoor]

great writing

On 2/14/14, Mujeeb Rahman m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com wrote:
 The story is just fantastic! It seems part of our life to face such
 incidents while looking for a companion!!

 Warm Regards,

 Mujeeb

 On 2/14/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting read, published today so I thought why not to circulate.
 By Malavika Santhebennur Ramp Up 14 Feb 2014  A Valentine's lesson:
 someone who loves you for who you are is someone worth being with.
 Credit: pcatalin (iStockphoto)
 http://www.abc.net.au/rampup/articles/2014/02/14/3943912.htm
 With her family's cultural values, Malavika Santhebennur was happy for
 her parents to play match maker and help find her a husband. But she
 was disappointed to find that even with their help, sometimes
 prejudice against disability is no match for love.

 Happy Valentine's Day!

 Also, happy Singles Appreciation Day!

 As I plough through my 20s, I see friends and family enter
 relationships, marriage, even parenthood.

 I'm 26 years old and was born in India. I am at what they call in my
 culture 'a marriageable age'. I want to get married, so being of
 marriageable age isn't a problem. That is not to say, however, that
 I'm sitting by the window waiting for my Prince Charming to sweep me
 off my feet. Being a full-time journalist at a financial publication,
 socialising, travelling, and belting out (bad) karaoke numbers every
 now and then gives me plenty to do.

 I also have mild cerebral palsy. 'Vanilla' might describe it. Yet the
 social impacts of this disability have not quite been vanilla.

 My mother faced a lot of difficulty delivering me and the doctor had
 to use forceps. My first cry was delayed due to lack of oxygen. Things
 were chugging along quite well until my parents noticed that I was
 missing the milestones I was supposed to have as a child. I could not
 sit on my own without support until I was one year old. I had not
 started walking even at one and a half.

 My parents started running around to various doctors, until one got it
 right. He said, Now I want you to sit down. What I'm about to tell
 you will be hard to take.

 The doctor told my parents I had cerebral palsy. I would need an
 operation on both legs to stretch my tendons. I would need
 physiotherapy everyday for at least two years. I finally started
 walking at age three and a half. Today, I walk with a limp. And my
 hands and arms have tremors and spasms.

 My parents started looking for a husband for me at the beginning of
 2011. They are playing match maker, rather than 'arranging' the
 marriage. It's my call at the end of the day.

 My parents signed me up to various online matrimonial websites. They
 have described me as a family person, educated and fun-loving. They
 have also mentioned that I have a limp. When people contact us to
 express interest, my parents tell them the full story.

 We have received various expressions of interest, but to date I've
 only met one guy. Just over two years ago, my dad sent me the profile
 and picture of a man in Bangalore. I liked his profile enough to want
 to meet him.

 My mum travelled to India to meet him first. Then I started talking to
 him over the phone and e-mail. I felt chemistry. I told him about my
 disability. He said he was okay with it and was looking forward to
 meet me.

 Looked promising.

 My parents and I flew to India to meet him in December 2011. He called
 me twice on the day we landed. I woke up on the day of our meeting
 with jetlag and butterflies in my stomach. I got dressed up and wore a
 sari.

 I chatted alone with him for an hour about our interests, goals, and
 what we wanted out of life. We then joined the parents in the lounge
 room.

 I asked his mother if she had any questions and concerns. I got
 silence. She smiled nervously and shook her head.

 When we didn't hear from them for a week, my mum rang the guy.

 He told Mum he was concerned I would be too much of a dependant. His
 mum had separated from her husband and the guy was her main support.
 He was scared that I'd be an additional dependant.

 I called and told him to visit me again so we could chat. While on the
 phone he told me that after we met, he could not eat, he could not
 work and he could not sleep. It was because he was panicking about
 marrying a girl with a disability.

 I wanted to allay his fears; convince him that, heavens no, I wouldn't
 be a burden.

 When he came over I told him to be honest about what was going through
 his mind. This roughly sums up what he said:

 My mum and I are scared that you will be a dependant. I don't know if
 I can balance looking after you and my mum.

 We are worried about what society will think if I married a girl with
 a disability.

 You didn't tell us you have hand tremors. (I did.)

 My mum's pushing me to find better girls.

 Instead of giving him the heave-ho right there, I propped up my case,
 explaining that I was a very independent, educated girl, who was
 

Re: [AI] Good News

[ishita kapoor]

Why should we congratulate them?
What they have done for VI community of Gujarat?
They are silent on basic issues like employment.
In Gujarat they only give and receive awards.
I am telling this with pain that no ngo or no person from any ngo is
fighting for basic rights of visually impaired.
In Gujarat government there is no vacancy for visually impaired.
Still they are happily accepting awards.
I am not against Mr. Vyas or anybody, but they shouldn't look only
small awards and recognition for government which is deft at least in
our case.
They should learn from mr. rumta, manocha Abraham etc
Who are selflessly serving our community.
Sorry if I have hurt anyone.


On 2/8/14, surendra salgaonkar surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Congratulatory mails on his personal MailID please!


 On 2/7/14, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ketan,

 Can you please mention the achievements of our fellow member Praful
 Vyas for which he is going to be felicitated? Its always good to know
 the contributions of the member which will inspire others to follow
 the path laid by him.  So, please share.

 On 2/7/14, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends,

 In this gloom and doom I have some good news to share:  our friend Mr.
 Praful Vyas from Dhoraji in Gujarat is being felicitated by government
 of
 Gujarat tomorrow.  He will be awarded the Dhartiratna award--a
 prestigious
 award tomorrow.

 THis is a great development indeed.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan
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Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow

[ishita kapoor]

well i don't understand disability much as i am new in the field. but
i found all issues of avinash logical. they say durghatna se der bhali
hai.
thanks...

On 2/3/14, Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friends, I am mentioning here few recent examples of blatant
 discrimination with blind people and specially 100% blind.

 Bangiya Gramin Vikash Bank, a regional rural bank of West Bengal
 recently notified vacancies for office assistance post of which
 overall 6 seats are reserved for PWD, but all these seats were
 reserved for OC category only.
 I filed a complaint with CCPD and had a conversation with Mr. Chief
 Commissioner, who assured me that his office will issue a direction to
 the bank for following the due reservation system thereby including VI
 and other categories to  participate in the recruitment process.

 Now, I am apprehensive whether the proposed national commissions for
 persons with disabilities will be having such power to direct any
 employer to secure the seats for Visually Impaired?

 Another example of blatant discrimination with 100% blindness
 is the denial of Allahabad Bank in its last clerical recruitment where
 even after securing allotment from IBPS 100% blind are outrightly
 rejected from giving them job, saying that which law says that
 blindness means 100% blindness? We do not have any work for 100%
 blind. However, low vision candidates are selected by same bank in
 same recruitment.
 Completely unnerved by this unashamed discrimination, one of 100%
 blind candidates approached to CCPD with the hope of getting justice.

 Will this new bill eliminate any such possibility of hidden or
 barefaced discrimination with full blind or open new windows to
 rampant such discriminations?
 I think that it's high time for entire VI Community to standby with
 legitimate  demands and should not compromise with few pieces of
 cheese which is being offered  to lure us and silent our mouth.





 On 2/3/14, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Finally, I couldn't refrain myself from keeping my point of view.
 I fully agree with Avinash and Ajay.
 In a system like our's, it is next to impossible to seek an amendment
 in near future.
 Even a lot of laws related to business and political interest take a
 grater amount of time to get amended then disability is not an
 exception.
 My best wishes to all those who are fighting on the roads and in
 dharnas to make themselves audable to the system.
 It is so easy for us to sit in frunt of a fancy computer and write an
 email but almost impossible to join them for this nobel cause.
 Being in a situation of low vision as well as blind, I have seen how
 blind are discriminated on various occasions.
 Though everybuddy has a fundamental right to keep his/ her point of view
 but
 It is necessary to keep a singal openion for the benefit of a larger
 community.
 We shouldn't forget that after elections, the situation will be worst.

 In the end, My best wishes will always with those people who are
 striving hard to get the things done.

 Thanks and regards.

 On 2/3/14, Ajay Arora ajayaror...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another point that I would like to bring to your attention is that
 chapter 2 of the proposed act: RIGHTS AND ENTITLEMENTS says that
 persons with disabilities will not be discriminated unless the
 discrimination is for the legitimate end.
 Now legitimate end can be anything. The government can say that
 employing persons with blindness may endanger the security of the
 passengers in railway, therefore, we cannot appoint them in railways
 as it is a legitimate end. Similarly, government can argue that
 hearing impaired cannot be given driving license, because they may
 cause problem to the public order. Guys there can be thousands of
 legitimate ends for the government that we cannot even think of at
 this point of time.

 On 2/3/14, Ajay Arora ajayaror...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 On amendment, I would just say that copyright bill was passed in late
 1950s and it took us sixty long years to seek even one amendment for
 disableds that too after many right to read campaigns in many parts of
 the country. Even kanchan mam was personally involved in many of those
 campaigns. Therefore, the idea of having amendments later, does not
 seem to be well placed to me.
 Let me give few examples of how this bill should not be passed:
 1. the proposed national commissions for persons with disabilities
 cannot give directions,  whereas ccpd could. It can only give
 recommendations.
 2. the definition for low vision and totally blind is very complocated
 and vague. it says that for totally blind the upper limit of having
 the benefit of reservation will be 6by 60. which means anybody who can
 see things upto six metres will be counted in totally blind category.
 And anybody who can see upto two metre and beyond will come under low
 vision. Now this beyond can be anything, it can be 8 metres or 16
 metres. Now please 

Re: [AI] A Must Read: Why Should Disability Spell the End of Romance?

[ishita kapoor]

great thought subramani sir.

On 2/1/14, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 yes romance has nothing to do with disability. but points of sucharu
 sir and ishita madam are also logical.

 On 1/31/14, Subramani L lsubramani.v...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ms. Preeti and others:

 While it is nice and fine to have a successful married life, factors
 such as what is the extent of an individual's contribution to the
 relationship, how far one could make the partnership work etc are
 important. Relationships do not take off or completely break down when
 we as partners fail to interest the other person any longer or,
 possibly don't try to show how interesting we can be. Today's boys and
 girls are intellectually so well advanced that compatibility at the
 mind level is equally important than physical attraction or disability
 or lack of same.

 Having seen the able-disabled combination a bit myself and had a few
 burns, I can tell you that it makes two to tango in a relationship. If
 someone calls you blind, then turn off the light and challenge the
 other person to deal with darkness. Demand respect if it is not given,
 at the same time work hard to deserve respect. This works with all
 kinds of relationship, especially in able-disabled romantic
 entanglement. The problem is we always feel grateful to an able
 bodied partner and will compromise our self respect to the extent that
 they consider us as push overs. This is not to question any well
 functioning relationships, but this is quite a factor in
 malfunctioning romantic entanglements.

 In short, if you are aiming to romantically involved with someone,
 ensure there are clear lines drawn so that there is space for both.
 Ok. I hand over the comb which I acquired probably too late having
 lost my hair (smily).

 Subramani





 On 1/30/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 You have to work towards making your own life a success storyl. It is
 hard
 work and still is hard work! But it always pays! Life is a compromise if
 you
 make it, and there are people who are living life on their own terms!
 And
 all this is our own choice and how we think. Remember thoughts always
 become
 things! Whatever you want to believe, will be your truth and you will
 find
 various examples to prove the same.

 So why not think of finding good life  partners? Instead  of looking
 for
 disabled and not disabled spouces

 Life will always become what you make of it.
 Preeti
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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:42 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] A Must Read: Why Should Disability Spell the End of
 Romance?

 madam you are right.
 But at the same time I can present many examples from different
 mailing lists supporting my point of view.
 My simple belief is generally a non disable person marries a disable
 person just because he or she doesn't get able bodied life partner.
 Or to get extra family income.
 I admit that there are few success stories like yours. But most
 marriages between disable and non disable are simply marriage of
 compromise from both the side.


 On 1/30/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Dear Ishita, and also Sucharu

 Interestingly how do we know equal and not equal? No one person in the
 world
 is equal to anyone! So what do we do? And no one must force  non
 disabled
 people to marry  disabled persons. And how do you know that all non
 disabled
 people are good and will end up being good husbands? Or wives for that
 matter!
 The idea is to find a life partner who is suitable to you and with whom
 you
 wish to be friends forever! I married twice, and both times  to non
 disabled
 men. My first husband was perfectly useless and horrible! I just simply
 left
 him and came back to my parents and  and  the second time, my husband
 is
 fantastic! So it is who you marry, Disability is by the way!
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Re: [AI] A Must Read: Why Should Disability Spell the End of Romance?

[ishita kapoor]

Very thought provoking article.
Though I strongly believe that we can't rather shouldn't force able
bodied person to accept us.
When I was sighted I never fancied a blind boy. Now how can I demand
from sighted person to accept me?
Love and marriage happens in equal group. Romance between disable and
non disable is only poetic idea in my view.
How many blind parents are there on the list? Do they allow their
sighted son to marry a disable girl?
The answer is obviously no.
By reading many mails on different lists i have learnt that if you are
earning well then any able bodied girl or boy will accept you as a
security.


On 1/30/14, Sucharu Gupta sucharugupta1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi friends,
 I would like to share my opinion about the article without hurting the
 feelings of anybody .it is just what I feel:
 in humans the relationships bloom between the equal persons .this is quite
 natural.the equality is measured by various parameters like appearance and
 personality,,socioeconomic factors,,family background and many more.this is
 the way our brain works irrespective of being abled or disabled.even in
 animals some factors determine the potentiality of one to find the mating
 partners.isn't it quite natural and not learntbehaviour?

 I never had a crush on any differently abled man when I was sighted so I
 have no right to take this social behaviour  as prejudice,.

 Moreover in the depths of our heart we ourselves feel a abled bodied person
 more desirable.
 We should not sympathize ourselves and live in the ground realities.regards
 sucharu
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Himanshu Sahu
 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:08 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] A Must Read: Why Should Disability Spell the End of
 Romance?

 A tremendous piece of writing unravelling a variety of shades of emotions
 and experiences which die in the hearts of many differently ables,
 unspoken!
 This is what makes me always appriciate Nidhi. Her livelyness, sensitivity
 and perception of  disability really brings a cheer while interacting with
 her...


 On 1/29/14, Shiv shivrah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is the full article:

 Source:
 http://in.news.yahoo.com/why-should-disability-spell-the-end-of-romanc
 e-055837779.html#

 Why Should Disability Spell the End of Romance?
 Flirting. Heartbreak. Clumsy first dates. Matrimonial sites. Studying
 for three degrees. Salsa classes. The coming-of-age story of a young
 woman who began losing her eyesight at 15.
 By Nidhi Goyal | Grist Media - 6 hours ago

 The wheelchair Kamasutra: Image courtesy Streetsie.com as seen on
 sexualityanddisability.orgLike most Indian urban teenage girls, my
 love life

 revolved around the stars of Bollywood. I had countless celebrity
 crushes growing up. The one I remember the most was Abhishek Bachchan,
 who I was 100

 percent sure I was going to marry.

 When I was an undergraduate student working towards my B.Com Degree at
 Narsee Monjee College of Commerce and Economics in my hometown of
 Mumbai, it

 turned out that college was only five minutes away from Abhishek's house.
 Which meant, of course, that passing by his house became a morning
 ritual for me and another Bachchan-crazy friend of mine. In the way
 that some people go to temples, we went to Jalsa - abode of the
 Bachchans - and pestered the security personnel to tell us the timing
 of his coming and goings. To the dismay of the guards, we once even
 followed his car.

 When I was 15, I was diagnosed with retinitis pigmentosa, a
 degenerative eye

 disorder. By the time I was in college and my love for Abhishek was in
 full

 swing, so was the loss of my eyesight. As I dropped off cards on his
 birthday and wrote him love poems, my ability to see was steadily
 declining.

 Of course, this made little difference to my love for Abhishek, who I
 had only managed to speak to about twice: instances where all I could
 splutter out was a request for an autograph. But when it came to the
 less tongue-tied, non-celebrity crushes on classmates and friends, my
 eyesight began to make all the difference.
 The writer Nidhi Goyal. Photo credit: Nidhi Goyal Teenage crushes are,
 by and large, a cause of anxiety. You spend days pondering over what
 to wear so he notices you, how you can stop him from spotting that new
 splotch of acne on your face, and why oh why is he always

 talking to the girl with that L'Oreal-ad-type hair? For me, it was a
 wholly

 different ball game. When you can't see, all social interactions
 become more

 difficult. Imagine trying to distinguish between the one hundred
 different voices of your classmates. Of never fully knowing whether
 someone is smiling

 at you or not. Of not realising you are standing next to the boy of
 your dreams.

 Until I lost my eyesight, I never realised just how many aspects of
 romance

 

[AI] guidance needed for ssc application

[ishita kapoor]

Dear friends,
I am graduate and would like to apply for STAFF SELECTION Commission posts.
I have downloaded notice and information but couldn’t understand pay
skell and other few things.
So please clarify my doubts:
1 is those jobs good for us?
2 for which post we can apply? I mean I am interested in applying in group b.
3 how much salary we get actually if we get job?
4 how’s there exam structure?
I found the detail very confusing so asked few foolish questions,
please excuse me.
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Re: [AI] guidance needed for ssc application

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you are right sir, but in real world we should know the pay structure
also. i know they provide good salary. but i would like to know the
meaning of the word good. and do they appoint us in reality? and which
post is better for us?
i downloaded their notification from some of mailing list.

On 1/27/14, rama anjaneyulu b.ramanjaneyu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1/27/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I am graduate and would like to apply for STAFF SELECTION Commission
 posts.
 I have downloaded notice and information but couldn’t understand pay
 skell and other few things.
 So please clarify my doubts:
 1 is those jobs good for us?
 2 for which post we can apply? I mean I am interested in applying in
 group
 b.
 3 how much salary we get actually if we get job?
 4 how’s there exam structure?
 I found the detail very confusing so asked few foolish questions,
 please excuse me.
 Thanks in advance…

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 Hi Friend,

 At 1st we should not see the Salary side, we should test our talent.
 SSC is A Recruitment Consultant for central Government. If you
 qualified in those exams, you will be appointed by the central
 government with high Salary scale. So My Personal Suggestion is to
 apply the job to which do you want apply.
 Even it will be an experience for you. where did you download that SSC
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Re: [AI] guidance needed for ssc application

[ishita kapoor]

friends,
i think in group b we have these 2 options.
1 assistant
central Secretariat Service

2 Assistant
Central Vigilance Commission.
could you suggest which is better?
thanks


On 1/28/14, Bandi KiranKumar kiran...@gmail.com wrote:
 please why are worrying about salaries?
 when you get selected in exam, pay scale will be good enough.
 and will be recognise as a class one officer.
 there will be five sections in that exam.
 out of which you have to qualify for each and every section.
 whole exam contains 200 marks.
 please write the exam carefully and be in touch with me.
 thanks and regards

 On 1/27/14, vishal M vishalcse2...@gmail.com wrote:
 HI Aziz,

 Graduate in any stream can apply for these posts. Only if you want to
 apply
 for Statistical
 Investigator Grade post
 you should have stats as your graduation subject. All other posts dont
 have
 such constraints.

 And on a lighter note i want to tell you that I am not not Sir.

 Thanks,
 Vishal
 On Jan 27, 2014 9:34 PM, Aziz Minat azizminat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir, i have a quary, can a graduate with english literature apply for
 the
 said post? Or is it for economics and stetastic graduates?
 --
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 Aziz Minat.
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 Hi Ishita,

 Dont worry about pay scales. Grade Pay 4600 and 4200 amount to a salary
 of
 around Rs 35k. Lesser grade pay of 2800 amount to around 22k.
 And about your doubts :
 1. Yes, these are good jobs for us as the are Central Government Jobs.
 2. You can apply for posts which are identified for Blind. Eg : Under
 Grade
 B : Assisant in CSS, MEA, Railways and other ministeries. Under Grade C
 :
 Tax Assistants.
 3. About salary, discussed above.
 4. Its a three tier structure exam. First two tiers are of objective
 type
 and third is interview.  For qualifying as Assistant in CSS there is an
 additional Computer Profiency Test which includes Typing, Excel and
 Powerpoint and for tax assistant only typing.

 You have to give preferences to these posts as per your interest.
 If you have anymore confusion, you can mail me.

 Thanks,
 Vishal
 .



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  Dear friends,
  I am graduate and would like to apply for STAFF SELECTION Commission
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  I have downloaded notice and information but couldn’t understand pay
  skell and other few things.
  So please clarify my doubts:
  1 is those jobs good for us?
  2 for which post we can apply? I mean I am interested in applying in
 group
  b.
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  4 how’s there exam structure?
  I found the detail very confusing so asked few foolish questions,
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Re: [AI] Deaf, mute dalit widow molested by caste Hindu trio in Thoothukudi

[ishita kapoor]

 always.


 On 11/30/13, Avichal Bhatnagar coolavic...@gmail.com wrote:
 If it would have been vice versa, it would have been a miner
 mishap,
 right?

 On 11/30/13, muruganandan.k send2...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello, the amount of a criminal offense can be properly
 accounted
 only
 if we take the vulnerability of the affected person... First of
 all,
 all the disabled persons are not equal, some are far less equal
 than
 the others. Caste is the vital marker which marginalizes the
 disabled
 to a great extent in South Asia. Fighting against castism and
 disability rights are not entirely separate issues... Only when
 a
 wound is exposed that it can be healed! I would strongly put
 that
 those protecting the caste system have no right to claim any
 special
 provision as a disabled person. I think its perfectly right to
 say
 Caste Hindus! thanks for sharing this news Abinash!

 On 11/30/13, Avichal Bhatnagar coolavic...@gmail.com wrote:
 I agree,
 The incident is really very horrible, but by writing words
 such
 as
 dalit woman and A caste Hindu trio we are unnecessarily
 promoting
 the caste system.
 A criminal is neither a member of any caste/religion etc, nor
 the
 victim.

 On 11/30/13, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 As expected from leftist.
 It is your duty to abuse hindus.
 Anyway this list is not for discussing such things.
 Will meet somewhere ells.
 Sorry moderator sir for this remark.


 On 11/30/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your 'why' will be best answered by New Indian Express
 literally...
 metaphorically, and of course actually, a caste hindu treo
 speaks
 volumes...
 in nutshell, Upper caste criminals who perpetrate sexual
 violence
 and
 violate bodily autonomy of scheduled caste women connive
 with
 the
 police and the administration and remain scot free.
 Intersectionality in disability is understudied reality in
 the
 country.
 We'll carry on this if you desire on some other platform?..
 On 11/30/13, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 a caste Hindu trio
 a caste Hindu trio
 a caste Hindu trio
 a caste Hindu trio
 what is this?
 though i condemn this but still...

 On 11/30/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Express News Service - THOOTHUKUDI
 Published: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
 Last Updated: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
 http://newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/Deaf-mute-dalit-widow-molested-by-caste-Hindu-trio-in-Thoothukudi/2013/11/20/article1900673.ece
 A 36-year-old differently-abled dalit  widow, was
 allegedly
 molested
 by
 a caste Hindu trio, who also abused her using her caste
 name,
 at
 Thoothukudi on Monday.

 Sources said that Amutha, widow of Mariappan and a
 resident
 of
 T
 Saveriapuram here, was both deaf and dumb. After the death
 of
 her
 husband Mariappan seven years ago, she was living with her
 father,
 Sakthivel, who worked as a watchman.

 On Monday evening, she, along with her 13-year old niece,
 Kanagavalli,
 took her goats for grazing to a field on the western side
 of
 the
 Komaspuram village.

 While she was herding the goats, a caste Hindu trio closed
 her
 mouth
 with their hands and forcibly took her away. When she
 resisted
 their
 attempts, they abused the woman using her caste name,
 according
 to
 her
 niece.

 Kanagavalli, who was alarmed by the brutality of the trio,
 rushed
 to
 Thalamuthunagar police station and informed about the
 ‘kidnap’
 of
 her
 relative.

 When police rushed to the spot, the trio fled the scene
 leaving
 the
 woman in the same place.

 However, police managed to catch two of them. They were
 identified
 as
 Selvam (36), son of Munisamy, and Saravanamuthu(23), son
 of
 Shanmugavel, both from Davispuram in Thoothukudi. The
 third
 person,
 Lakshmana Kumar, son of Soundarapandi, took to his heels.

 A case has been filed against the trio under various
 sections
 of
 the
 IPC and 3(1)(XI) of SC and ST (Prevention of Atrocities)
 Act.

 Subsequently, police arrested the two persons. On Tuesday
 morning,
 during a search police arrested the third person,
 Lakshmana
 Kumar.


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 Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
 New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] how to download call letter for upcoming ibps clerikal exam

[ishita kapoor]

thank you friends for quicker help then expected.
problem solved.

On 12/2/13, Rahul Bhatia smartrahulbha...@gmail.com wrote:
 click here to download your admit card
 http://ibpsreg.sifyitest.com/cweclknov13/login.php?appid=qassdiee4alqica13ndw

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[AI] how to download call letter for upcoming ibps clerikal exam

[ishita kapoor]

Friends,
My ibps clerical exam is on 7th of December.
I am trying to download call letter for the same.
But not able to find out on the given website.
What should I do?
Please share direct  link for downloading  call letter if possible.
Thanks in advance…

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Re: [AI] Deaf, mute dalit widow molested by caste Hindu trio in Thoothukudi

[ishita kapoor]

As expected from leftist.
It is your duty to abuse hindus.
Anyway this list is not for discussing such things.
Will meet somewhere ells.
Sorry moderator sir for this remark.


On 11/30/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your 'why' will be best answered by New Indian Express literally...
 metaphorically, and of course actually, a caste hindu treo speaks
 volumes...
 in nutshell, Upper caste criminals who perpetrate sexual violence and
 violate bodily autonomy of scheduled caste women connive with the
 police and the administration and remain scot free.
 Intersectionality in disability is understudied reality in the country.
 We'll carry on this if you desire on some other platform?..
 On 11/30/13, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 a caste Hindu trio
 a caste Hindu trio
 a caste Hindu trio
 a caste Hindu trio
 what is this?
 though i condemn this but still...

 On 11/30/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Express News Service - THOOTHUKUDI
 Published: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
 Last Updated: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
 http://newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/Deaf-mute-dalit-widow-molested-by-caste-Hindu-trio-in-Thoothukudi/2013/11/20/article1900673.ece
 A 36-year-old differently-abled dalit  widow, was allegedly molested by
 a caste Hindu trio, who also abused her using her caste name, at
 Thoothukudi on Monday.

 Sources said that Amutha, widow of Mariappan and a resident of T
 Saveriapuram here, was both deaf and dumb. After the death of her
 husband Mariappan seven years ago, she was living with her father,
 Sakthivel, who worked as a watchman.

 On Monday evening, she, along with her 13-year old niece, Kanagavalli,
 took her goats for grazing to a field on the western side of the
 Komaspuram village.

 While she was herding the goats, a caste Hindu trio closed her mouth
 with their hands and forcibly took her away. When she resisted their
 attempts, they abused the woman using her caste name, according to her
 niece.

 Kanagavalli, who was alarmed by the brutality of the trio, rushed to
 Thalamuthunagar police station and informed about the ‘kidnap’ of her
 relative.

 When police rushed to the spot, the trio fled the scene leaving the
 woman in the same place.

 However, police managed to catch two of them. They were identified as
 Selvam (36), son of Munisamy, and Saravanamuthu(23), son of
 Shanmugavel, both from Davispuram in Thoothukudi. The third person,
 Lakshmana Kumar, son of Soundarapandi, took to his heels.

 A case has been filed against the trio under various sections of the
 IPC and 3(1)(XI) of SC and ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act.

 Subsequently, police arrested the two persons. On Tuesday morning,
 during a search police arrested the third person, Lakshmana Kumar.


 --
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 Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
 New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] Deaf, mute dalit widow molested by caste Hindu trio in Thoothukudi

[ishita kapoor]

a caste Hindu trio
a caste Hindu trio
a caste Hindu trio
a caste Hindu trio
what is this?
though i condemn this but still...

On 11/30/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Express News Service - THOOTHUKUDI
 Published: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
 Last Updated: 20th November 2013 08:20 AM
 http://newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/Deaf-mute-dalit-widow-molested-by-caste-Hindu-trio-in-Thoothukudi/2013/11/20/article1900673.ece
 A 36-year-old differently-abled dalit  widow, was allegedly molested by
 a caste Hindu trio, who also abused her using her caste name, at
 Thoothukudi on Monday.

 Sources said that Amutha, widow of Mariappan and a resident of T
 Saveriapuram here, was both deaf and dumb. After the death of her
 husband Mariappan seven years ago, she was living with her father,
 Sakthivel, who worked as a watchman.

 On Monday evening, she, along with her 13-year old niece, Kanagavalli,
 took her goats for grazing to a field on the western side of the
 Komaspuram village.

 While she was herding the goats, a caste Hindu trio closed her mouth
 with their hands and forcibly took her away. When she resisted their
 attempts, they abused the woman using her caste name, according to her
 niece.

 Kanagavalli, who was alarmed by the brutality of the trio, rushed to
 Thalamuthunagar police station and informed about the ‘kidnap’ of her
 relative.

 When police rushed to the spot, the trio fled the scene leaving the
 woman in the same place.

 However, police managed to catch two of them. They were identified as
 Selvam (36), son of Munisamy, and Saravanamuthu(23), son of
 Shanmugavel, both from Davispuram in Thoothukudi. The third person,
 Lakshmana Kumar, son of Soundarapandi, took to his heels.

 A case has been filed against the trio under various sections of the
 IPC and 3(1)(XI) of SC and ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act.

 Subsequently, police arrested the two persons. On Tuesday morning,
 during a search police arrested the third person, Lakshmana Kumar.


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 Avinash Shahi
 M.Phil Research Scholar
 Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
 New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] Business oppurtunity for VI persons

[ishita kapoor]

Nice topic.
I was working with call centre as a team leader.
My celery was also excellent.
But I was not some what satisfied with my work so left the job.
I was active in share market so after living job I started full time trading.
Now I earn more then I was earning in my previous job.
Trading doesn’t need sight only brain.
Now I can use facebook any time.
Now I can go anywhere without asking anyone.
In fact now I can control my life without losing anything.
I am not against job. But to get job is not everything.
Generally we believe that being visually impaired we need safe job.
But in my view it is not true.
We should do the thing in witch we are good.
Being blind we can’t do everything but certainly we can do many great
things with our life.
We just need to understand our talent and skill.


On 11/21/13, Saravanan sarva...@greytip.com wrote:
 Hello friends,

 To lead a normal life, each and everyone should be satisfied with their
 basic needs.
 For that, we have to earn. So, earnings most propably decides the happiness
 in walk thru in ourlifes. For a normal person,
 there a lot of oppurtunities to  improve their earnings.
 But, for a VI person there is only a limited oppurtunities.
 We require a  safety job or business oppurtunity to shape our life.
 Most of us don't know to shape our life.
 It is not possible for all of us to go for a safety  supportable jobb.
 So, I request to provide the the details of business oppurtunities
 that VI persons can handle  lead their life in success.
 In business, we can also provide employment oppurtunities for others also.

 Thanks
 saravanan.K
 +91 9916512402
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Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore

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Good work avinash.
Last year I got an opportunity to meet a blind person who was bagging
at hanuman temple rajkot gujarat.
I talked to him for 15 to 20 minutes.
He was intelligent and 12th pass.
He said that bagging is my business. And I am happy with it. I can
earn 500 per day in this business without doing anything.
I asked him to do something meaningful with his life. But he replied I
don’t want to do anything.
I really found him happy with his life.
I couldn’t speak anything.
I said him bye bye without giving anything.


On 11/18/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All
 Nobody wants to begg, but hunger and burning stomach compell many to do so.
 We should respect these blind beggars, who are in absense of any
 elementary support by family and the state are compelled to begg for
 alms. they are fighting for bare minimum.There are thousands who are
 forced to begg like them.
 Can we do anything for them?
 They are six blind men, 2 Aged around thirty, two mid thirties and
 other two above forty.. Two are holding dirty rounded clowths and
 others have stranded their palms in anticipation of money and food and
 singing in corus.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pEmOXC3M8w
 Please if possible supply few data/surveys done on blind beggars in
 Indian cities I'm writing one piece on blind beggars for one national
 Indian Magazine. Please if you know any locality in Delhi where blind
 beggars live in groups then also inform me.
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Re: [AI] Online music class on skype

[ishita kapoor]

hi, i don't know this is write place for such request or not but
please share your recording for us if possible.
moderator sir i am sorry if i have violated list guideline.

On 11/12/13, Naveen HK naveenh...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I want to only listen your music over the skype then may I?

 On 11/12/13, Dharmesh Kothari dharmesh0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear music lovers,i about to start online music class on skype, where you
 can learn singing,guitar,keyboard,harmonium  and what ever you want to
 learn
 like classical,light,folk,western,movie songs,ghazal,bhajan,garba and
 much
 more.information regarding me has given below.
 Intresting people may contact.
 Thanks


 BEST REGARDS
 Music Composer- DHARMESH KOTHARI

 Honoured by The Chief Minister of Gujarat Shri Narendra Modi.
 The fame of Sa Re Ga Ma Pa  Shabaash India Zee TV.
 The best compliments given by The Legendary Music Director Mr. Bappi
 Lahiri.
 Owner  Director of STAR MUSIC COACHING.
 Mob.9925678915   9428165987
 For more info- type star music coaching in facebook  youtube

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Re: [AI] (AI) Help required to convert ebooks from epub to word or other convenient formats

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generally i use www.zamzar.com for converting ebooks.

On 10/28/13, Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net wrote:
 Use Calibre either from the command line or in conmbination with the
 ebook convert gui frontend.

 hth

 Doris

 At 01:39 AM 10/28/2013 +0530, you wrote:
Dear all,
As the subject line reads, I have some ebooks in epub, html, mobi
formats. I am not in a position to access them freely or  to convert
them to regular formats such as word or pdf. Your expert advice is
humbly requested.

with wishes.

Hassim Syed

Mob: 9246789077

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Re: [AI] Gujarat Government blind towards blinds' interest ...

[ishita kapoor]

It seems that few people are writing just to abuse modi and Gujarat.
We have better life then all you think.
We live in better condition in compare to other state.
We have roads and electricity
We have develop infrastructure
And it helps to visually impaired too directly or indirectly.
Do you know how many vidyasahayaks are there in Gujarat?
If not then please do check before writing foolishly.
We have advance library for specially visually impaired students in ahmedabad.
And it is because of our sencitive government.
I accept that problems are there.
But it is the same in each state.
Yes in state like delhi the situation is better, it is not because
shila dikshit.
But it is because people like santosh sir, dipendra sir and other activist.
You just visit Gujarat, you will find hardly any visually impaired
person jobless
You can question the role of ngos of Gujarat. But to blame only 1
person won’t solve any purpose.
Are you writing for disability or to condemning Gujarat?
If you can’t understand simple theory of akhilesh sir, then forget
about your degree and education and start learning from kg.


On 10/11/13, sharad tripathi lifeprejudi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 After going through this whole discussion, first issue of disability
 need to be politicized as sc and st has done for them. eventualy
 politics design our destiny.
 now read about congress lead state of rajasthan, here disability means
 OH only. VH,HH,Mr are no where in the scene. I have filed a PIL for
 the universal computer education of v.i. in the state. I have become a
 evil for the state public service commission because of filing more
 than ten cases one by one in the last three years. however, latest
 universal scribe rules are not implemented in the state. back log of
 public services in our quata is pending still. whole of budget is
 going to aid and services to OH category people. Let's come on the
 field and execution of what we habe recieved till now is important.,
 therefore one group among us should function in planning and another
 in execution and other in marketing or awareness but sorry execution
 wing is very weak. because some of us enjoying or relishing hefty paid
 government job and some are struggling for that. and sorry for them
 who are not aware and living a deplorable life.
 regards
 sharad tripathi
 m.9828545636

 On 10/9/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder If Narendra Modi becomes PM, Such steps can be taken at
 Centre level too...
 After hearing and listening to many friends from Gujarat, I'm smelling
 very bleak future if he becomes PM.
 Oppology from Modi supporters here... and don't reply just to defend
 him, please.
 we shouldn't forget he has made situation worst from worse in the
 state for blind people.
 http://www.bilkulonline.com/gujarat-news/general-news/3883-bpa-applauds-sc-decision-for-blind-wants-gog-to-review-its-stand
 BPA applauds SC decision for blind,

 wants GoG to review its stand

 Bilkul News, Ahmedabad, Oct 8: The Supreme Court on 8th October, 2013
 directed the Centre and all State Governments to provide three percent
 job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
 companies and institutions as per reservation under Section 32 and 33
 of Persons with Disabilities Act, 1995.



 Welcoming the decision of SC Bhushan Punani Executive Director of the
 Blind People's Association (BPA) Ahmedabad said Supreme Court has
 passed a very bold judgment directing all the State Governments and
 the Central Government to implement reservation of 3 % jobs for
 persons with disabilities and to complete the backlog within 3
 months.

 Unfortunately, Gujarat paints a sad picture here. Punani also adds to
 say, The Government of Gujarat has taken the liberty of issuing a
 notification contrary to the provisions of reservation and has
 wrongfully denied appointment of blind persons as Vidya Sahayaks which
 in contradiction to the provisions of law

 A bench headed by Chief Justice P Sathasivam also clarified that the
 principle of not exceeding more than 50 per cent reservation would not
 be applicable while granting quota for disabled persons.

 The apex court directed the authorities to compile the number of
 vacancies in all their departments to give jobs to disabled persons
 under three per cent reserved quota within three months.

 The bench said it is an alarming reality that disabled persons are
 not getting jobs because of various social barriers forcing them to
 live life in poverty and negligence.

 It said the Government has categorical obligation to protect the
 right of disabled persons and passed a slew of directions for
 providing jobs to the differently-abled under the Persons with
 Disabilities Act.

 While this bold judgment of the Supreme Court which in reality
 validates provisions of Section 32 of the Persons with Disabilities
 Act is a very welcome step and needs to be appreciated. As per Section
 33 of the Act, the Central and State 

Re: [AI] Fwd: being blind has more problems than just not being able to see...

[ishita kapoor]

good 1.

On 10/3/13, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:
 very interesting.
 many thanx.

 On 10/3/13, Pragya Deora mailpragyade...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.ted.com/talks/oliver_sacks_what_hallucination_reveals_about_our_minds.html

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Re: [AI] question regarding a failing laptop battery

[ishita kapoor]

great info.
thank you very much sir.

On 10/3/13, Yogesh Chhabra yogesh4...@gmail.com wrote:
 1. regarding your concern about your current battery, One of the
 biggest disadvantages with using battery powered products is that
 batteries have a limited lifespan. Expanding a battery's lifespan is
 an area in which manufacturers of laptops, hybrid cars, and cell
 phones are constantly working on.
 Lithium-ion batteries tend to overheat and last about 750 charges,
 (which means your battery will last about 3years).

 2. regarding battery replacement, its voltage, and runtime, Every
 laptop battery is given a power rating in order to show you, the
 consumer, about how long your battery should last before it needs to
 be recharged. These electrical specifications are given using volts
 (V) and milliAmps (mAh). For example, you may see your battery is
 given a rating of: 10.8V, 4000mAh.

 Volts and milliAmp hours are used because they measure the amount of
 energy used by a laptop battery. A volt (V) is a measurement used for
 the amount of pressure the positive and negative electrodes produce in
 a battery during the process of discharging energy. Amps (A) measure
 the amount of resistance the energy in your battery produces in order
 to power a laptop.

 Think of volts and amps in terms of a shower. When a shower is turned
 on half way, the water that goes through the pipe produces a certain
 amount of pressure. When you turn it on to its full amount, the water
 produces more pressure in the pipe. This pressure, or power, is
 similar to the volts a battery uses. If a laptop is running simple
 programs, little power is needed to discharge energy into a laptop.
 However, if a laptop is running a DVD movie or other high energy
 consumption applications, more power will be needed to discharge the
 necessary amount of energy to run the DVD movie.

 You may also notice that increasing the size of the pipe and shower
 head without having to open the faucet all the way will produce
 similar results. This is an example of the amount of resistance in the
 flow of energy. Measuring this resistance is measured in terms of
 amps. In terms of a battery, the amount of resistance is dependant on
 the size of the battery and the amount of energy inside.

 Battery life: A Few Things to Consider

 Laptop ratings are given in terms of amp hours (Ah). Amp hours measure
 the length of time a battery will discharge energy before it needs
 charging. In order to adequately measure battery life, manufacturers
 use milliAmp hours (mAh). This means that every 1000mAh is equal to
 1Ah. What does this mean for your new battery? If your original
 battery is measured at 2500mAh and your replacement battery is
 measured at 5000mAh, then your battery run time will double.

 Keep in mind that technology constantly changes. Your old battery may
 be rated at a lower run time than a newer one because of technological
 advancements that have produced longer lasting batteries.

 Additionally, your battery's run time depends on the programs you use.
 Some programs require more energy to run than others. Examples are:
 the screen (particularly if set at the brightest setting), hard
 drives, CD and DVD drives, and wireless network cards. Unfortunately,
 there is no definite answer to the question, how long exactly will my
 laptop battery last? The key factor is how and what you use your
 laptop for.
 you cannot fit 8 cells or 9 cells battery into a 6 cells battery
 laptop design. remember that, voltage remains constant and mAh varies.
 so, more the values of mAh, mor will be the battery runtime (backup
 time).

 On 10/3/13, austin pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.
 I have a dell inspiron mini 1012 netbook which is over 3 years old
 from yesterday if I go to the notifications area then to the battery
 icon or the icon which tells me how much battery is charged or
 discharged nvda reads a message consider replacing your battery is
 this message true?
 Should I really consider replacing my battery?
 If yes these are my battery specs
 Battery name dell vxy2102n.
 Manufacture simplo.
 Serial number 11
 Full charge capacity 57720.
 Voltage 12865 millivolts.
 6 cell lithium ion.
 I gave you all the details because I want to know the following.
 1. If I get a new battery can I get more hours from it if I get a
 battery with more full charge capacity or more voltage? I also was
 considering getting a 8 cell battery but I think the battery will be
 too big to fit in the bay if I can get a battery with more full charge
 capacity or more voltage how much will be the maximum that I can get
 without harming my computer

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