Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
1. condition of producing scribes documents one week ahead of the
examination are not acceptable to me. Because its difficult to ensure
the availability of that very person, I have to approach my friends
and will have to decide who will be available on that day, as they
themselves are not sure about their availability.
2. They haven't specified regarding extra time. as per their old
rules, they provide 15 minutes per hour, while it must not be less
than 20 minutes per hour.
3. I asked them to allot the examination center at accessible venue,
which they have totally rejected and informed that allotting the
center is done through another agency, therefore its not possible.
4. I want that question paper must be provided to me in accessible
format viz. in MS word or html format with screen reader. If they
provide me question paper in computer, I will be having no problem
with their scribe.

I am planning to go to CCPD immideatly tomorrow to ensure the above points.

On 5/18/14, KanchanPamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
 Also what happened about the extra time.
 Are you satisfied.
 What provision do you want to challenge?
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which
 is scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
 representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
 implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
 Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their
 own scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each
 hour to the candidate using services of the scribe.
 Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi
 High court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to
 firnish the detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions,
 the letter reads as under:
 From
 The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi
 I am directed to inform you that you have been permitted to bring a
 scribe of your choice for appearing in Delhi Judicial Service
 Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled to be held on 01.06.2014,
 subject to the condition that you will submit an affidavit containing
 the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name, residential
 address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the scribe
 is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law.
 I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly
 sworn by you along with a photograph of the scribe, shall reach the
 office of Joint Registrar (Vig.) by 25.05.2014 and in case of
 nonreceipt thereof, it shall be presumed that you are no longer
 interested in bringing your own scribe and in that eventuality, the
 scribe will be provided by this Court at the respective Test Centre on
 the date of the Examination.

 Yours faithfully,
 (Manish Aggarwal)
 Assistant Registrar (Vigilance.)

 Respected members, these conditions are clearly contradictory to MSJE
 guidelines. In case I am bringing my own scribe, before one week of
 exam how can I ensure that I will bring such and such person? Some
 time it is dependent upon the availability of the person and sometime
 it is decided only one day ahead of the examination that who will be
 my scribe. Here its very problematic to supply the details of the
 scribe, indirectly they are again pushing us to accept their scribe
 who are not even know how to read questions properly. I want to know
 whether any humanright agency, any advocate on the list can help us to
 file a petition on the behalf of candidates? If I will go personally,
 it will take time and this precious time for the preparation of the
 exam will be wested there.
 Respected Adv. Subhash Vasist, can u do something for us?



 --
 Mohib Anwar Rafel
 2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU.
 2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi.
 2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU
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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread KanchanPamnani
I don't agree with 1. You have to give the name and details of your scribe
before the exam. Hardly any examining body allows you to get a scribe  at
the last minute. This is also for your own safety-in case someone rejects
it. You were aware of your exams and should  have a few friends as backup. 
2. You must ask them in a polite letter and email about the extra time and
the accessible question papers. Then go to the CCPD.  
3. What do you mean by an accessible venue for the visually challenged? This
is normally very important for the physically challenged. Please explain in
detail. Also if there is only one venue in Delhi for such exams then
unlikely that they will make any special change for you. What you must get
is a quiet place away from other examinees where no one overhears the
dictation to your scribe.
I hope you have studied well and are concentrating on your syllabus  now.
Best wishes
Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 18 May 2014 11:38
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

1. condition of producing scribes documents one week ahead of the
examination are not acceptable to me. Because its difficult to ensure
the availability of that very person, I have to approach my friends
and will have to decide who will be available on that day, as they
themselves are not sure about their availability.
2. They haven't specified regarding extra time. as per their old
rules, they provide 15 minutes per hour, while it must not be less
than 20 minutes per hour.
3. I asked them to allot the examination center at accessible venue,
which they have totally rejected and informed that allotting the
center is done through another agency, therefore its not possible.
4. I want that question paper must be provided to me in accessible
format viz. in MS word or html format with screen reader. If they
provide me question paper in computer, I will be having no problem
with their scribe.

I am planning to go to CCPD immideatly tomorrow to ensure the above points.

On 5/18/14, KanchanPamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
 Also what happened about the extra time.
 Are you satisfied.
 What provision do you want to challenge?
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which
 is scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
 representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
 implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
 Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their
 own scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each
 hour to the candidate using services of the scribe.
 Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi
 High court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to
 firnish the detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions,
 the letter reads as under:
 From
 The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi
 I am directed to inform you that you have been permitted to bring a
 scribe of your choice for appearing in Delhi Judicial Service
 Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled to be held on 01.06.2014,
 subject to the condition that you will submit an affidavit containing
 the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name, residential
 address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the scribe
 is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law.
 I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly
 sworn by you along with a photograph of the scribe, shall reach the
 office of Joint Registrar (Vig.) by 25.05.2014 and in case of
 nonreceipt thereof, it shall be presumed that you are no longer
 interested in bringing your own scribe and in that eventuality, the
 scribe will be provided by this Court at the respective Test Centre on
 the date of the Examination.

 Yours faithfully,
 (Manish Aggarwal)
 Assistant Registrar (Vigilance.)

 Respected members, these conditions are clearly contradictory to MSJE
 guidelines. In case I am bringing my own scribe, before one week of
 exam how can I ensure that I will bring such and such person? Some
 time it is dependent upon the availability of the person and sometime
 it is decided only one day ahead of the examination that who will be
 my scribe. Here its very problematic to supply the details of the
 scribe, indirectly they are again pushing us to accept their scribe
 who are not even know how to read questions 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Kasia
I kindly request you to intervene in this matter only if you're willing to
support up to the end. I'm telling this because, if I remember correct, I've
read an email telling that you're being a two faced person in accessindia a
couple of weeks before.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
Also what happened about the extra time. 
Are you satisfied. 
What provision do you want to challenge?  
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which is
scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their own
scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each hour to the
candidate using services of the scribe.
Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi High
court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to firnish the
detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions, the letter reads as
under:
From
The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi I am directed to inform
you that you have been permitted to bring a scribe of your choice for
appearing in Delhi Judicial Service Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled
to be held on 01.06.2014, subject to the condition that you will submit an
affidavit containing the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name,
residential address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the
scribe is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law.
I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly sworn
by you along with a photograph of the scribe, shall reach the office of
Joint Registrar (Vig.) by 25.05.2014 and in case of nonreceipt thereof, it
shall be presumed that you are no longer interested in bringing your own
scribe and in that eventuality, the scribe will be provided by this Court at
the respective Test Centre on the date of the Examination.

Yours faithfully,
(Manish Aggarwal)
Assistant Registrar (Vigilance.)

Respected members, these conditions are clearly contradictory to MSJE
guidelines. In case I am bringing my own scribe, before one week of exam how
can I ensure that I will bring such and such person? Some time it is
dependent upon the availability of the person and sometime it is decided
only one day ahead of the examination that who will be my scribe. Here its
very problematic to supply the details of the scribe, indirectly they are
again pushing us to accept their scribe who are not even know how to read
questions properly. I want to know whether any humanright agency, any
advocate on the list can help us to file a petition on the behalf of
candidates? If I will go personally, it will take time and this precious
time for the preparation of the exam will be wested there.
Respected Adv. Subhash Vasist, can u do something for us?



--
Mohib Anwar Rafel
2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU.
2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi.
2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU
Phone: 09811767506,
09211194222



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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
1. Their condition is that the person must not graduate/post graduate
in law, I accept it, but this conditionality can be ascertained at the
day of the examination too. It is not easy for a visually challenged
to find a person who could commit you that in any case he would be
available after 10 days, (because the letter has to reach to high
court latest by 25).
2. Accessible venue mean, the venue which is well connected to popular
transport means such as Delhi metro, or is situated at well known
place, or is near to candidate's residential area. So that it could be
easy to reach the exam center with out much difficulty. Say for
instance, the examination center allotted to me is at the other corner
of Delhi and the place is not connected to Delhi metro, it gets
difficult to reach at such venues. What UPSC does, they keep center
near to Delhi metro where u don't have to cross the road even. More
over at such venues the staf also are not trained to cater the special
requirement of disabled candidates.

Mam, what can I do now, except going to CCPD, at least to order high
court administration to provide question paper in accessible format
and  to remove the condition of firnishing an affidavit one week in
advance. Indirectly high court administration compeling the VI
candidates to accept their own scribes.
And yes, I am concentrating on my syllabus, but before the exam, the
worrey of scribe is horrible.

On 5/18/14, KanchanPamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't agree with 1. You have to give the name and details of your scribe
 before the exam. Hardly any examining body allows you to get a scribe  at
 the last minute. This is also for your own safety-in case someone rejects
 it. You were aware of your exams and should  have a few friends as backup.
 2. You must ask them in a polite letter and email about the extra time and
 the accessible question papers. Then go to the CCPD.
 3. What do you mean by an accessible venue for the visually challenged?
 This
 is normally very important for the physically challenged. Please explain in
 detail. Also if there is only one venue in Delhi for such exams then
 unlikely that they will make any special change for you. What you must get
 is a quiet place away from other examinees where no one overhears the
 dictation to your scribe.
 I hope you have studied well and are concentrating on your syllabus  now.
 Best wishes
 Kanchan

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: 18 May 2014 11:38
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 1. condition of producing scribes documents one week ahead of the
 examination are not acceptable to me. Because its difficult to ensure
 the availability of that very person, I have to approach my friends
 and will have to decide who will be available on that day, as they
 themselves are not sure about their availability.
 2. They haven't specified regarding extra time. as per their old
 rules, they provide 15 minutes per hour, while it must not be less
 than 20 minutes per hour.
 3. I asked them to allot the examination center at accessible venue,
 which they have totally rejected and informed that allotting the
 center is done through another agency, therefore its not possible.
 4. I want that question paper must be provided to me in accessible
 format viz. in MS word or html format with screen reader. If they
 provide me question paper in computer, I will be having no problem
 with their scribe.

 I am planning to go to CCPD immideatly tomorrow to ensure the above points.

 On 5/18/14, KanchanPamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
 Also what happened about the extra time.
 Are you satisfied.
 What provision do you want to challenge?
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which
 is scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
 representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
 implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
 Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their
 own scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each
 hour to the candidate using services of the scribe.
 Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi
 High court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to
 firnish the detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions,
 the letter reads as under:
 From
 The Registrar General High Court 

Re: [AI] Is bank transaction riskier for the blind?

2014-05-18 Thread mahendra

Dear Shadab
i think, you need to trust the bank staf,
first of all, even if you are taking big sum,
it is not every day, i suppose,
second you can have netbanking, so you can see on mobile,
how much amount you have withdrawn, after your transaction.so you you 
can be sure.

thurd, they need to worrey about there jobs.


At 04:29 PM 5/17/2014, you wrote:

I go alone.

What reasons you have for bank staff being honest?

Sent from my iPhone

 On 17-May-2014, at 5:59 pm, Aravind R aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com wrote:

 bank employees wont cheat don't worry. they are not that much wicked
 people. anyway, you normally go with someone no? so you can verify.

 On 5/17/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friends, what risks the blind face doing bank transactions? Can the
 bank employees themselves cheat us? Please shed light on this crucial
 issue because often I transact and fear getting cheated. Your advice
 will comfort me very much. Thanks Shadab

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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread KanchanPamnani
I know it is difficult to be sure of a scribe till the last minute and I
have gone through this hell myself. 
I had told you to keep a petition ready for the High Court  while you were
waiting for this letter and I had also told you that I would be in Delhi
from the 20th of May to help if needed-please refer to previous emails on
this subject. 
Just check on the different centres available forthis exam-is there one
centre in Delhi or many. UPSC has many examinees sitting so they can
actually have one common venue for all disabled examinees. I don't know how
many sit for the Judicial services exams and how many centres ae there. 
I would have liked you to go to court rather than the CCPD for the
accessible papers  and etra time etc. Pankaj or Akhilesh could have handled
this matter if you had listened to me at that time. I would have also been
in Delhi and we would have won. This would have closed the matter for ever. 
Delhi HC has a vacation court from next week  
CCPD  will give the orders I am sure but implementation is difficult by 1st
June. 
Anyway send it tomorrow for sure with a copy to the Delhi registry.
I would actually like you to write to the Registry on extra time. 
If it works great and if does not then it will definitely work for the next
time. This is the same problem with UPSC. Most of the people don't follow up
during the yearand only wake up towards the last few days. I don't like this
and keep following up whether exams are due or not.  
If you don't want my comments as someone on this group has suggested then
please let me know and I will stop answering your emails.
  Take care and work hard. 
Kanchan 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:45
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

1. Their condition is that the person must not graduate/post graduate
in law, I accept it, but this conditionality can be ascertained at the
day of the examination too. It is not easy for a visually challenged
to find a person who could commit you that in any case he would be
available after 10 days, (because the letter has to reach to high
court latest by 25).
2. Accessible venue mean, the venue which is well connected to popular
transport means such as Delhi metro, or is situated at well known
place, or is near to candidate's residential area. So that it could be
easy to reach the exam center with out much difficulty. Say for
instance, the examination center allotted to me is at the other corner
of Delhi and the place is not connected to Delhi metro, it gets
difficult to reach at such venues. What UPSC does, they keep center
near to Delhi metro where u don't have to cross the road even. More
over at such venues the staf also are not trained to cater the special
requirement of disabled candidates.

Mam, what can I do now, except going to CCPD, at least to order high
court administration to provide question paper in accessible format
and  to remove the condition of firnishing an affidavit one week in
advance. Indirectly high court administration compeling the VI
candidates to accept their own scribes.
And yes, I am concentrating on my syllabus, but before the exam, the
worrey of scribe is horrible.

On 5/18/14, KanchanPamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't agree with 1. You have to give the name and details of your scribe
 before the exam. Hardly any examining body allows you to get a scribe  at
 the last minute. This is also for your own safety-in case someone rejects
 it. You were aware of your exams and should  have a few friends as backup.
 2. You must ask them in a polite letter and email about the extra time and
 the accessible question papers. Then go to the CCPD.
 3. What do you mean by an accessible venue for the visually challenged?
 This
 is normally very important for the physically challenged. Please explain
in
 detail. Also if there is only one venue in Delhi for such exams then
 unlikely that they will make any special change for you. What you must get
 is a quiet place away from other examinees where no one overhears the
 dictation to your scribe.
 I hope you have studied well and are concentrating on your syllabus  now.
 Best wishes
 Kanchan

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: 18 May 2014 11:38
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 1. condition of producing scribes documents one week ahead of the
 examination are not acceptable to me. Because its difficult to ensure
 the availability of that very person, I have to approach my friends
 and will have to decide who will be 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread KanchanPamnani
I cannot help him in the sense that you assume I should because I am in
Mumbai and not in Delhi. If you don't want to read my emails-kindly delete
them. If I am two faced then you better not get in touch with me. If you
don't know me and my work then please read accessindia's archives instead of
believing  others.  
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation. 
Just for your information it is the guidelines that I have fought for and
won for the country  from 2006. 
Everyone on thelist barring a few new comers like you knowabout my work
and how it all started. Get yourself educated. 

Always listen to two sides-you heard how two faced I am but did you check
with me, you believed how mature is that. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:40
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I kindly request you to intervene in this matter only if you're willing to
support up to the end. I'm telling this because, if I remember correct, I've
read an email telling that you're being a two faced person in accessindia a
couple of weeks before.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
Also what happened about the extra time. 
Are you satisfied. 
What provision do you want to challenge?  
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which is
scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their own
scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each hour to the
candidate using services of the scribe.
Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi High
court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to firnish the
detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions, the letter reads as
under:
From
The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi I am directed to inform
you that you have been permitted to bring a scribe of your choice for
appearing in Delhi Judicial Service Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled
to be held on 01.06.2014, subject to the condition that you will submit an
affidavit containing the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name,
residential address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the
scribe is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law.
I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly sworn
by you along with a photograph of the scribe, shall reach the office of
Joint Registrar (Vig.) by 25.05.2014 and in case of nonreceipt thereof, it
shall be presumed that you are no longer interested in bringing your own
scribe and in that eventuality, the scribe will be provided by this Court at
the respective Test Centre on the date of the Examination.

Yours faithfully,
(Manish Aggarwal)
Assistant Registrar (Vigilance.)

Respected members, these conditions are clearly contradictory to MSJE
guidelines. In case I am bringing my own scribe, before one week of exam how
can I ensure that I will bring such and such person? Some time it is
dependent upon the availability of the person and sometime it is decided
only one day ahead of the examination that who will be my scribe. Here its
very problematic to supply the details of the scribe, indirectly they are
again pushing us to accept their scribe who are not even know how to read
questions properly. I want to know whether any humanright agency, any
advocate on the list can help us to file a petition on the behalf of
candidates? If I will go personally, it will take time and this precious
time for the preparation of the exam will be wested there.
Respected Adv. Subhash Vasist, can u do something for us?



--
Mohib Anwar Rafel
2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU.
2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi.
2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU
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Braille phone, which has been partially constructed using 3D printing 
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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Kasia
Don't get pissed off madam. I was just telling you the fact which I read it
from the same list a couple of week before. I was trying to safeguard you.
Blindies have more expectitions and of course that includes myself too. If
you're really willing to help, you won't get pissed off. Don't be a short
tempered lawyer. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I cannot help him in the sense that you assume I should because I am in
Mumbai and not in Delhi. If you don't want to read my emails-kindly delete
them. If I am two faced then you better not get in touch with me. If you
don't know me and my work then please read accessindia's archives instead of
believing  others.  
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation. 
Just for your information it is the guidelines that I have fought for and
won for the country  from 2006. 
Everyone on thelist barring a few new comers like you knowabout my work
and how it all started. Get yourself educated. 

Always listen to two sides-you heard how two faced I am but did you check
with me, you believed how mature is that. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:40
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I kindly request you to intervene in this matter only if you're willing to
support up to the end. I'm telling this because, if I remember correct, I've
read an email telling that you're being a two faced person in accessindia a
couple of weeks before.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
Also what happened about the extra time. 
Are you satisfied. 
What provision do you want to challenge?  
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which is
scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their own
scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each hour to the
candidate using services of the scribe.
Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi High
court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to firnish the
detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions, the letter reads as
under:
From
The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi I am directed to inform
you that you have been permitted to bring a scribe of your choice for
appearing in Delhi Judicial Service Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled
to be held on 01.06.2014, subject to the condition that you will submit an
affidavit containing the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name,
residential address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the
scribe is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law.
I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly sworn
by you along with a photograph of the scribe, shall reach the office of
Joint Registrar (Vig.) by 25.05.2014 and in case of nonreceipt thereof, it
shall be presumed that you are no longer interested in bringing your own
scribe and in that eventuality, the scribe will be provided by this Court at
the respective Test Centre on the date of the Examination.

Yours faithfully,
(Manish Aggarwal)
Assistant Registrar (Vigilance.)

Respected members, these conditions are clearly contradictory to MSJE
guidelines. In case I am bringing my own scribe, before one week of exam how
can I ensure that I will bring such and such person? Some time it is
dependent upon the availability of the person and sometime it is decided
only one day ahead of the examination that who will be my scribe. Here its
very problematic to supply the details of the scribe, 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Kasia
By the way, if you're sending it to the list in publicks, you cannot ask
someone to shut up. Keep that in mind as a lawyer.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I cannot help him in the sense that you assume I should because I am in
Mumbai and not in Delhi. If you don't want to read my emails-kindly delete
them. If I am two faced then you better not get in touch with me. If you
don't know me and my work then please read accessindia's archives instead of
believing  others.  
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation. 
Just for your information it is the guidelines that I have fought for and
won for the country  from 2006. 
Everyone on thelist barring a few new comers like you knowabout my work
and how it all started. Get yourself educated. 

Always listen to two sides-you heard how two faced I am but did you check
with me, you believed how mature is that. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:40
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I kindly request you to intervene in this matter only if you're willing to
support up to the end. I'm telling this because, if I remember correct, I've
read an email telling that you're being a two faced person in accessindia a
couple of weeks before.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
Also what happened about the extra time. 
Are you satisfied. 
What provision do you want to challenge?  
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which is
scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their own
scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each hour to the
candidate using services of the scribe.
Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi High
court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to firnish the
detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions, the letter reads as
under:
From
The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi I am directed to inform
you that you have been permitted to bring a scribe of your choice for
appearing in Delhi Judicial Service Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled
to be held on 01.06.2014, subject to the condition that you will submit an
affidavit containing the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name,
residential address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the
scribe is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law.
I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly sworn
by you along with a photograph of the scribe, shall reach the office of
Joint Registrar (Vig.) by 25.05.2014 and in case of nonreceipt thereof, it
shall be presumed that you are no longer interested in bringing your own
scribe and in that eventuality, the scribe will be provided by this Court at
the respective Test Centre on the date of the Examination.

Yours faithfully,
(Manish Aggarwal)
Assistant Registrar (Vigilance.)

Respected members, these conditions are clearly contradictory to MSJE
guidelines. In case I am bringing my own scribe, before one week of exam how
can I ensure that I will bring such and such person? Some time it is
dependent upon the availability of the person and sometime it is decided
only one day ahead of the examination that who will be my scribe. Here its
very problematic to supply the details of the scribe, indirectly they are
again pushing us to accept their scribe who are not even know how to read
questions properly. I want to know whether any humanright agency, any
advocate on the list can help us to 

[AI] Auld lang sine

2014-05-18 Thread Shadab Husain
Bill Gates guided me

{This article of mine was published in the magazine of La Martiniere
Boys' College, Lucknow, where I used to study.}

Ever feared if an unpreventable circumstance cuts you off this school
and cancels your option of studying elsewhere?

WHAM.

Your life will come to a creaking halt. You will be burdened with more
dullness than you can ever imagine. Yup, you will have a lot of time,
but it has pleasure because currently you are busy. You will be
friendless, lonely, and inactive.

So was I when a progressive visual impairment compelled me to leave
this school. I failed in class 6th half yearly first but was then
promoted to 7th where before getting out of this school I failed again
and afterwards met more failures in grad and post grad also! Simple.

Yeah, you guys might have guessed that I was not so good at studies. Right.

And yeah, you guys might have also guessed that I kind of enjoyed my
failures and school-getting out. Wrong.

These failures with my school-separation made me think of committing
suicide. The sorrow of being separated from my school, teachers and
friends is so seething that it still wounds my heart, though in time,
I got over my failures. More years than a decade has have past and I
continue to dream that I have returned to my early youth and am
studying in your school. I rarely regret over things, but I deeply
regret that a good piece of my teenage, in which each moment is more
precious than a gold coin, has wasted. So sad, so fresh, the days that
are no more. Tennyson. But...

Martinians! Changing the paragraph here because now am going to show
you the positive side of the game.

Deprived of regular education, faltering over failures - and therefore
exposing myself to mockery, I started to form a belief of my own.

I was sure that my academic record is not the measuring stick for my
talents and potential. Charles Dickens had a formal education of not
more than four years. Bill Gates was a Harvard dropout; Steve Jobs
(the Apple guy) too was a dropout - Google out his college/university
name - and btw Google-choreographers Larry Page and Sergey Brin were
Stanford abandoners. Sachin also was a failure. In academics.

Back to me: I tried harder than one can think to pass in English but
failed several times before I could obtain 3rd division marks. so much
I was committed to my education that even if for a day I was unable to
study, I used to fall ill.

Sometimes my failures filled me up with self-guilt, but my teacher
(who presently is your principal) used to praise my writing, telling
it would be my forte! A comforting thought for me was (and still is)
that an eminent person and several people with knowledge have praised
me for it, so I keep going. I currently am not a famous writer but am
trekking that mount.

To my joy, I have got two job offers to work as a writer. Imagine in
this competitive time a blind person with poor academics getting such
offers.

I don't do the blunder of defining myself by academic record or small
achievements/failures. Nor Dickens, Gates, Jobs, Page, Brin did.

Will you?


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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread KanchanPamnani
Sorry -read my email I have never asked anyone to shut up as you have
stated.Please read my email again to understand what I have said to you.
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 13:36
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

By the way, if you're sending it to the list in publicks, you cannot ask
someone to shut up. Keep that in mind as a lawyer.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I cannot help him in the sense that you assume I should because I am in
Mumbai and not in Delhi. If you don't want to read my emails-kindly delete
them. If I am two faced then you better not get in touch with me. If you
don't know me and my work then please read accessindia's archives instead of
believing  others.  
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation. 
Just for your information it is the guidelines that I have fought for and
won for the country  from 2006. 
Everyone on thelist barring a few new comers like you knowabout my work
and how it all started. Get yourself educated. 

Always listen to two sides-you heard how two faced I am but did you check
with me, you believed how mature is that. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:40
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I kindly request you to intervene in this matter only if you're willing to
support up to the end. I'm telling this because, if I remember correct, I've
read an email telling that you're being a two faced person in accessindia a
couple of weeks before.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
Also what happened about the extra time. 
Are you satisfied. 
What provision do you want to challenge?  
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which is
scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their own
scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each hour to the
candidate using services of the scribe.
Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi High
court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to firnish the
detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions, the letter reads as
under:
From
The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi I am directed to inform
you that you have been permitted to bring a scribe of your choice for
appearing in Delhi Judicial Service Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled
to be held on 01.06.2014, subject to the condition that you will submit an
affidavit containing the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name,
residential address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the
scribe is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law.
I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly sworn
by you along with a photograph of the scribe, shall reach the office of
Joint Registrar (Vig.) by 25.05.2014 and in case of nonreceipt thereof, it
shall be presumed that you are no longer interested in bringing your own
scribe and in that eventuality, the scribe will be provided by this Court at
the respective Test Centre on the date of the Examination.

Yours faithfully,
(Manish Aggarwal)
Assistant Registrar (Vigilance.)

Respected members, these conditions are clearly contradictory to MSJE
guidelines. In case I am bringing my own scribe, before one week 

Re: [AI] Auld lang sine

2014-05-18 Thread George Abraham
I too studied in that school, but in the girls school. Wondering how I
managed that? Well those days boys were part of the school till class 4.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Shadab Husain
Sent: 18 May 2014 14:08
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Auld lang sine

Bill Gates guided me

{This article of mine was published in the magazine of La Martiniere
Boys' College, Lucknow, where I used to study.}

Ever feared if an unpreventable circumstance cuts you off this school
and cancels your option of studying elsewhere?

WHAM.

Your life will come to a creaking halt. You will be burdened with more
dullness than you can ever imagine. Yup, you will have a lot of time,
but it has pleasure because currently you are busy. You will be
friendless, lonely, and inactive.

So was I when a progressive visual impairment compelled me to leave
this school. I failed in class 6th half yearly first but was then
promoted to 7th where before getting out of this school I failed again
and afterwards met more failures in grad and post grad also! Simple.

Yeah, you guys might have guessed that I was not so good at studies. Right.

And yeah, you guys might have also guessed that I kind of enjoyed my
failures and school-getting out. Wrong.

These failures with my school-separation made me think of committing
suicide. The sorrow of being separated from my school, teachers and
friends is so seething that it still wounds my heart, though in time,
I got over my failures. More years than a decade has have past and I
continue to dream that I have returned to my early youth and am
studying in your school. I rarely regret over things, but I deeply
regret that a good piece of my teenage, in which each moment is more
precious than a gold coin, has wasted. So sad, so fresh, the days that
are no more. Tennyson. But...

Martinians! Changing the paragraph here because now am going to show
you the positive side of the game.

Deprived of regular education, faltering over failures - and therefore
exposing myself to mockery, I started to form a belief of my own.

I was sure that my academic record is not the measuring stick for my
talents and potential. Charles Dickens had a formal education of not
more than four years. Bill Gates was a Harvard dropout; Steve Jobs
(the Apple guy) too was a dropout - Google out his college/university
name - and btw Google-choreographers Larry Page and Sergey Brin were
Stanford abandoners. Sachin also was a failure. In academics.

Back to me: I tried harder than one can think to pass in English but
failed several times before I could obtain 3rd division marks. so much
I was committed to my education that even if for a day I was unable to
study, I used to fall ill.

Sometimes my failures filled me up with self-guilt, but my teacher
(who presently is your principal) used to praise my writing, telling
it would be my forte! A comforting thought for me was (and still is)
that an eminent person and several people with knowledge have praised
me for it, so I keep going. I currently am not a famous writer but am
trekking that mount.

To my joy, I have got two job offers to work as a writer. Imagine in
this competitive time a blind person with poor academics getting such
offers.

I don't do the blunder of defining myself by academic record or small
achievements/failures. Nor Dickens, Gates, Jobs, Page, Brin did.

Will you?


-- 
Develop your personality and English at
http://PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.com/



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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Kasia
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation.

Is that a sarcasm?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:10 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Sorry -read my email I have never asked anyone to shut up as you have
stated.Please read my email again to understand what I have said to you.
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 13:36
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

By the way, if you're sending it to the list in publicks, you cannot ask
someone to shut up. Keep that in mind as a lawyer.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I cannot help him in the sense that you assume I should because I am in
Mumbai and not in Delhi. If you don't want to read my emails-kindly delete
them. If I am two faced then you better not get in touch with me. If you
don't know me and my work then please read accessindia's archives instead of
believing  others.  
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation. 
Just for your information it is the guidelines that I have fought for and
won for the country  from 2006. 
Everyone on thelist barring a few new comers like you knowabout my work
and how it all started. Get yourself educated. 

Always listen to two sides-you heard how two faced I am but did you check
with me, you believed how mature is that. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:40
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I kindly request you to intervene in this matter only if you're willing to
support up to the end. I'm telling this because, if I remember correct, I've
read an email telling that you're being a two faced person in accessindia a
couple of weeks before.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
Also what happened about the extra time. 
Are you satisfied. 
What provision do you want to challenge?  
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which is
scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their own
scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each hour to the
candidate using services of the scribe.
Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi High
court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to firnish the
detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions, the letter reads as
under:
From
The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi I am directed to inform
you that you have been permitted to bring a scribe of your choice for
appearing in Delhi Judicial Service Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled
to be held on 01.06.2014, subject to the condition that you will submit an
affidavit containing the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name,
residential address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the
scribe is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law.
I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly sworn
by you along with a 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread KanchanPamnani
I am not getting short tempered. If I was really short tempered I would have
gone off this list and never responded to serious emails.
I wish people like you would read the archives and get to know the truth
without which  you should not comment.
Kanchan  
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 13:35
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Don't get pissed off madam. I was just telling you the fact which I read it
from the same list a couple of week before. I was trying to safeguard you.
Blindies have more expectitions and of course that includes myself too. If
you're really willing to help, you won't get pissed off. Don't be a short
tempered lawyer. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I cannot help him in the sense that you assume I should because I am in
Mumbai and not in Delhi. If you don't want to read my emails-kindly delete
them. If I am two faced then you better not get in touch with me. If you
don't know me and my work then please read accessindia's archives instead of
believing  others.  
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation. 
Just for your information it is the guidelines that I have fought for and
won for the country  from 2006. 
Everyone on thelist barring a few new comers like you knowabout my work
and how it all started. Get yourself educated. 

Always listen to two sides-you heard how two faced I am but did you check
with me, you believed how mature is that. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:40
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I kindly request you to intervene in this matter only if you're willing to
support up to the end. I'm telling this because, if I remember correct, I've
read an email telling that you're being a two faced person in accessindia a
couple of weeks before.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
Also what happened about the extra time. 
Are you satisfied. 
What provision do you want to challenge?  
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which is
scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their own
scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each hour to the
candidate using services of the scribe.
Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi High
court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to firnish the
detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions, the letter reads as
under:
From
The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi I am directed to inform
you that you have been permitted to bring a scribe of your choice for
appearing in Delhi Judicial Service Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled
to be held on 01.06.2014, subject to the condition that you will submit an
affidavit containing the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name,
residential address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the
scribe is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law.
I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly sworn
by you along with a photograph of the scribe, shall reach the office of
Joint Registrar (Vig.) by 25.05.2014 and in case of nonreceipt thereof, it
shall be presumed that you are no longer interested in bringing your own
scribe and in that eventuality, the scribe 

Re: [AI] Auld lang sine

2014-05-18 Thread George Abraham
Nice piece!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Shadab Husain
Sent: 18 May 2014 14:08
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Auld lang sine

Bill Gates guided me

{This article of mine was published in the magazine of La Martiniere
Boys' College, Lucknow, where I used to study.}

Ever feared if an unpreventable circumstance cuts you off this school
and cancels your option of studying elsewhere?

WHAM.

Your life will come to a creaking halt. You will be burdened with more
dullness than you can ever imagine. Yup, you will have a lot of time,
but it has pleasure because currently you are busy. You will be
friendless, lonely, and inactive.

So was I when a progressive visual impairment compelled me to leave
this school. I failed in class 6th half yearly first but was then
promoted to 7th where before getting out of this school I failed again
and afterwards met more failures in grad and post grad also! Simple.

Yeah, you guys might have guessed that I was not so good at studies. Right.

And yeah, you guys might have also guessed that I kind of enjoyed my
failures and school-getting out. Wrong.

These failures with my school-separation made me think of committing
suicide. The sorrow of being separated from my school, teachers and
friends is so seething that it still wounds my heart, though in time,
I got over my failures. More years than a decade has have past and I
continue to dream that I have returned to my early youth and am
studying in your school. I rarely regret over things, but I deeply
regret that a good piece of my teenage, in which each moment is more
precious than a gold coin, has wasted. So sad, so fresh, the days that
are no more. Tennyson. But...

Martinians! Changing the paragraph here because now am going to show
you the positive side of the game.

Deprived of regular education, faltering over failures - and therefore
exposing myself to mockery, I started to form a belief of my own.

I was sure that my academic record is not the measuring stick for my
talents and potential. Charles Dickens had a formal education of not
more than four years. Bill Gates was a Harvard dropout; Steve Jobs
(the Apple guy) too was a dropout - Google out his college/university
name - and btw Google-choreographers Larry Page and Sergey Brin were
Stanford abandoners. Sachin also was a failure. In academics.

Back to me: I tried harder than one can think to pass in English but
failed several times before I could obtain 3rd division marks. so much
I was committed to my education that even if for a day I was unable to
study, I used to fall ill.

Sometimes my failures filled me up with self-guilt, but my teacher
(who presently is your principal) used to praise my writing, telling
it would be my forte! A comforting thought for me was (and still is)
that an eminent person and several people with knowledge have praised
me for it, so I keep going. I currently am not a famous writer but am
trekking that mount.

To my joy, I have got two job offers to work as a writer. Imagine in
this competitive time a blind person with poor academics getting such
offers.

I don't do the blunder of defining myself by academic record or small
achievements/failures. Nor Dickens, Gates, Jobs, Page, Brin did.

Will you?


-- 
Develop your personality and English at
http://PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.com/



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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Kasia
Your insteant replies and way of writing making sure that you got more time
with your fingers and also how much short tempered person you are. If you
wana convey something to someone in particular, why don't you send an email
privately to that person instead of sending it in publicks and asking
everyone not to intervene in that subject? Be a lawyer, and not a liar.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:14 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I am not getting short tempered. If I was really short tempered I would have
gone off this list and never responded to serious emails.
I wish people like you would read the archives and get to know the truth
without which  you should not comment.
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 13:35
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Don't get pissed off madam. I was just telling you the fact which I read it
from the same list a couple of week before. I was trying to safeguard you.
Blindies have more expectitions and of course that includes myself too. If
you're really willing to help, you won't get pissed off. Don't be a short
tempered lawyer. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I cannot help him in the sense that you assume I should because I am in
Mumbai and not in Delhi. If you don't want to read my emails-kindly delete
them. If I am two faced then you better not get in touch with me. If you
don't know me and my work then please read accessindia's archives instead of
believing  others.  
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation. 
Just for your information it is the guidelines that I have fought for and
won for the country  from 2006. 
Everyone on thelist barring a few new comers like you knowabout my work
and how it all started. Get yourself educated. 

Always listen to two sides-you heard how two faced I am but did you check
with me, you believed how mature is that. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:40
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I kindly request you to intervene in this matter only if you're willing to
support up to the end. I'm telling this because, if I remember correct, I've
read an email telling that you're being a two faced person in accessindia a
couple of weeks before.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
Also what happened about the extra time. 
Are you satisfied. 
What provision do you want to challenge?  
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which is
scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a
representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding
implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam.
Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their own
scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each hour to the
candidate using services of the scribe.
Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi High
court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to firnish the
detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions, the letter reads as
under:
From
The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi I am directed to inform
you that you have been permitted to bring a 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread KanchanPamnani
Its really strange that you write to me in a public forum calling me names
and you expect me to respond to you directly. 

Also I am once again requesting you to read archives-I reply only on Sundays
and that too if I am at home. Now I will have to go ogg line and attend to
other matters. I will not be able to check my emails for a week. 
Why are you calling me a liar. I am being civil to you. Kindly explain your
statement and if you think that I really am a liar then please tell me what
I have lied to you about. 
I normally get into trouble because of my frankness but this is the first
time I have been accused of being a liar.
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 14:18
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Your insteant replies and way of writing making sure that you got more time
with your fingers and also how much short tempered person you are. If you
wana convey something to someone in particular, why don't you send an email
privately to that person instead of sending it in publicks and asking
everyone not to intervene in that subject? Be a lawyer, and not a liar.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:14 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I am not getting short tempered. If I was really short tempered I would have
gone off this list and never responded to serious emails.
I wish people like you would read the archives and get to know the truth
without which  you should not comment.
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 13:35
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Don't get pissed off madam. I was just telling you the fact which I read it
from the same list a couple of week before. I was trying to safeguard you.
Blindies have more expectitions and of course that includes myself too. If
you're really willing to help, you won't get pissed off. Don't be a short
tempered lawyer. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I cannot help him in the sense that you assume I should because I am in
Mumbai and not in Delhi. If you don't want to read my emails-kindly delete
them. If I am two faced then you better not get in touch with me. If you
don't know me and my work then please read accessindia's archives instead of
believing  others.  
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation. 
Just for your information it is the guidelines that I have fought for and
won for the country  from 2006. 
Everyone on thelist barring a few new comers like you knowabout my work
and how it all started. Get yourself educated. 

Always listen to two sides-you heard how two faced I am but did you check
with me, you believed how mature is that. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:40
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I kindly request you to intervene in this matter only if you're willing to
support up to the end. I'm telling this because, if I remember correct, I've
read an email telling that you're being a two faced person in accessindia a
couple of weeks before.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me.
Also what happened about the extra time. 
Are you satisfied. 
What provision do you want to challenge?  
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Kasia
O dear. I guess you're much talented in interpretating my suggestions. I was
asking you to offer your support to that fellow in private if you don't want
others' intervensions.

While sending this email, I got one more evidence from one of the colleagues
from United India Insurance Company. He was telling the same. As you wanted
to gain name for the things which was not even done by you. He said he was
asking suggestion for his case against NSDL who they were not accepting
blind customers and you were neglecting it at the beginning and after he's
obtaining a judgement from the Chennai Highcourt, you were asking the
judgement and you advertised as you fought for that and got it.

So stop bullying please.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:26 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Its really strange that you write to me in a public forum calling me names
and you expect me to respond to you directly. 

Also I am once again requesting you to read archives-I reply only on Sundays
and that too if I am at home. Now I will have to go ogg line and attend to
other matters. I will not be able to check my emails for a week. 
Why are you calling me a liar. I am being civil to you. Kindly explain your
statement and if you think that I really am a liar then please tell me what
I have lied to you about. 
I normally get into trouble because of my frankness but this is the first
time I have been accused of being a liar.
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 14:18
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Your insteant replies and way of writing making sure that you got more time
with your fingers and also how much short tempered person you are. If you
wana convey something to someone in particular, why don't you send an email
privately to that person instead of sending it in publicks and asking
everyone not to intervene in that subject? Be a lawyer, and not a liar.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:14 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I am not getting short tempered. If I was really short tempered I would have
gone off this list and never responded to serious emails.
I wish people like you would read the archives and get to know the truth
without which  you should not comment.
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 13:35
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Don't get pissed off madam. I was just telling you the fact which I read it
from the same list a couple of week before. I was trying to safeguard you.
Blindies have more expectitions and of course that includes myself too. If
you're really willing to help, you won't get pissed off. Don't be a short
tempered lawyer. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I cannot help him in the sense that you assume I should because I am in
Mumbai and not in Delhi. If you don't want to read my emails-kindly delete
them. If I am two faced then you better not get in touch with me. If you
don't know me and my work then please read accessindia's archives instead of
believing  others.  
On this topic I have been in touch with the person concerned and I am trying
to sort it out so please if you have nothing to contribute stay out of the
conversation. 
Just for your information it is the guidelines that I have fought for and
won for the country  from 2006. 
Everyone on thelist barring a few new comers like you knowabout my work
and how it all started. Get yourself educated. 

Always listen to two sides-you heard how two faced I am but did you check
with me, you believed how mature is that. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 12:40
To: 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread KanchanPamnani
What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular? What
is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation? Who
went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred to by
NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who helped his
lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its logical conclusion?
Why he didn't share it with Accessindia? 
Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please don't
believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone else without
facts. 
I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually challenged
signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped with their
suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed up and compiled the
documents. I took the lead mainly because of the complaints that I had read
on accessindia and also because of your friend. I have always  shared my
information of this forum. 
Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request to you
is that you should get your facts in order before accusing anyone. 
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 14:33
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

O dear. I guess you're much talented in interpretating my suggestions. I was
asking you to offer your support to that fellow in private if you don't want
others' intervensions.

While sending this email, I got one more evidence from one of the colleagues
from United India Insurance Company. He was telling the same. As you wanted
to gain name for the things which was not even done by you. He said he was
asking suggestion for his case against NSDL who they were not accepting
blind customers and you were neglecting it at the beginning and after he's
obtaining a judgement from the Chennai Highcourt, you were asking the
judgement and you advertised as you fought for that and got it.

So stop bullying please.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:26 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Its really strange that you write to me in a public forum calling me names
and you expect me to respond to you directly. 

Also I am once again requesting you to read archives-I reply only on Sundays
and that too if I am at home. Now I will have to go ogg line and attend to
other matters. I will not be able to check my emails for a week. 
Why are you calling me a liar. I am being civil to you. Kindly explain your
statement and if you think that I really am a liar then please tell me what
I have lied to you about. 
I normally get into trouble because of my frankness but this is the first
time I have been accused of being a liar.
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 14:18
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Your insteant replies and way of writing making sure that you got more time
with your fingers and also how much short tempered person you are. If you
wana convey something to someone in particular, why don't you send an email
privately to that person instead of sending it in publicks and asking
everyone not to intervene in that subject? Be a lawyer, and not a liar.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:14 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I am not getting short tempered. If I was really short tempered I would have
gone off this list and never responded to serious emails.
I wish people like you would read the archives and get to know the truth
without which  you should not comment.
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 13:35
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Don't get pissed off madam. I was just telling you the fact which I read it
from the same list a couple of week before. I was trying to safeguard you.
Blindies have more expectitions and of course that 

Re: [AI] Auld lang syne

2014-05-18 Thread Shadab Husain
Thanks sir! It would have been lovelier if I too had studied with
girls but till class 12!

Friends, I made a blunder in the subject: it is Auld lang syne
(happy memories!)

Please forgive me not


On 5/18/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Nice piece!

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Shadab Husain
 Sent: 18 May 2014 14:08
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Auld lang sine

 Bill Gates guided me

 {This article of mine was published in the magazine of La Martiniere
 Boys' College, Lucknow, where I used to study.}

 Ever feared if an unpreventable circumstance cuts you off this school
 and cancels your option of studying elsewhere?

 WHAM.

 Your life will come to a creaking halt. You will be burdened with more
 dullness than you can ever imagine. Yup, you will have a lot of time,
 but it has pleasure because currently you are busy. You will be
 friendless, lonely, and inactive.

 So was I when a progressive visual impairment compelled me to leave
 this school. I failed in class 6th half yearly first but was then
 promoted to 7th where before getting out of this school I failed again
 and afterwards met more failures in grad and post grad also! Simple.

 Yeah, you guys might have guessed that I was not so good at studies. Right.

 And yeah, you guys might have also guessed that I kind of enjoyed my
 failures and school-getting out. Wrong.

 These failures with my school-separation made me think of committing
 suicide. The sorrow of being separated from my school, teachers and
 friends is so seething that it still wounds my heart, though in time,
 I got over my failures. More years than a decade has have past and I
 continue to dream that I have returned to my early youth and am
 studying in your school. I rarely regret over things, but I deeply
 regret that a good piece of my teenage, in which each moment is more
 precious than a gold coin, has wasted. So sad, so fresh, the days that
 are no more. Tennyson. But...

 Martinians! Changing the paragraph here because now am going to show
 you the positive side of the game.

 Deprived of regular education, faltering over failures - and therefore
 exposing myself to mockery, I started to form a belief of my own.

 I was sure that my academic record is not the measuring stick for my
 talents and potential. Charles Dickens had a formal education of not
 more than four years. Bill Gates was a Harvard dropout; Steve Jobs
 (the Apple guy) too was a dropout - Google out his college/university
 name - and btw Google-choreographers Larry Page and Sergey Brin were
 Stanford abandoners. Sachin also was a failure. In academics.

 Back to me: I tried harder than one can think to pass in English but
 failed several times before I could obtain 3rd division marks. so much
 I was committed to my education that even if for a day I was unable to
 study, I used to fall ill.

 Sometimes my failures filled me up with self-guilt, but my teacher
 (who presently is your principal) used to praise my writing, telling
 it would be my forte! A comforting thought for me was (and still is)
 that an eminent person and several people with knowledge have praised
 me for it, so I keep going. I currently am not a famous writer but am
 trekking that mount.

 To my joy, I have got two job offers to work as a writer. Imagine in
 this competitive time a blind person with poor academics getting such
 offers.

 I don't do the blunder of defining myself by academic record or small
 achievements/failures. Nor Dickens, Gates, Jobs, Page, Brin did.

 Will you?


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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Kasia
I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after he is
sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did everything
which are all for blind.

I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his case
at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting positive
judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my ears over the
phone at present.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular? What
is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation? Who
went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred to by
NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who helped his
lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its logical conclusion?
Why he didn't share it with Accessindia? 
Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please don't
believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone else without
facts. 
I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually challenged
signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped with their
suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed up and compiled the
documents. I took the lead mainly because of the complaints that I had read
on accessindia and also because of your friend. I have always  shared my
information of this forum. 
Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request to you
is that you should get your facts in order before accusing anyone. 
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 14:33
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

O dear. I guess you're much talented in interpretating my suggestions. I was
asking you to offer your support to that fellow in private if you don't want
others' intervensions.

While sending this email, I got one more evidence from one of the colleagues
from United India Insurance Company. He was telling the same. As you wanted
to gain name for the things which was not even done by you. He said he was
asking suggestion for his case against NSDL who they were not accepting
blind customers and you were neglecting it at the beginning and after he's
obtaining a judgement from the Chennai Highcourt, you were asking the
judgement and you advertised as you fought for that and got it.

So stop bullying please.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:26 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Its really strange that you write to me in a public forum calling me names
and you expect me to respond to you directly. 

Also I am once again requesting you to read archives-I reply only on Sundays
and that too if I am at home. Now I will have to go ogg line and attend to
other matters. I will not be able to check my emails for a week. 
Why are you calling me a liar. I am being civil to you. Kindly explain your
statement and if you think that I really am a liar then please tell me what
I have lied to you about. 
I normally get into trouble because of my frankness but this is the first
time I have been accused of being a liar.
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 18 May 2014 14:18
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Your insteant replies and way of writing making sure that you got more time
with your fingers and also how much short tempered person you are. If you
wana convey something to someone in particular, why don't you send an email
privately to that person instead of sending it in publicks and asking
everyone not to intervene in that subject? Be a lawyer, and not a liar.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of KanchanPamnani
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:14 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

I am not getting short 

Re: [AI] Fwd: Press release:Activism of the Blind Triumphs Once Again, Jobs for Many Visually Impaired in Delhi Schools

2014-05-18 Thread Surya Prakash Sharma
Thanks and congratulations to AICB for the same. would you please
upload the soft copy of the decision.
Thanks and regards,
S P Sharma

On 5/18/14, AICB aicbdelhi.110...@gmail.com wrote:
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: AICB aicbdelhi.110...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 16:55:38 +0530
 Subject: Press release:Activism of the Blind Triumphs Once Again, Jobs
 for Many Visually Impaired in Delhi Schools
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

 All India Confederation of the Blind Press ReleaseNew Delhi
  May
 17, 2014

 Activism of the Blind Triumphs Once Again, Jobs for Many Visually
 Impaired in Delhi Schools and More Powers to the CCPD, a Path-breaking
 Intervention of the Delhi High Court and Chief Commissioner for
 Persons with Disabilities

 The Persons With Disabilities Act was passed in 1995, but even after
 more than 18 years, the Government Ministries and Departments at times
 appear unwilling to comply with its provisions and grant the blind and
 the low vision their rights as per the provisions of this Act. AICB,
 which has frequently filed cases at the appropriate forums to ensure
 these rights of the visually impaired, filed yet another case in the
 Delhi High Court when various departments of the Delhi Government did
 not provide reservation to the blind on more than 3700 vacancies
 pertaining to two posts, namely, that of Special Educator and Computer
 Teacher. As reported earlier, the Delhi High Court, after hearing
 arguments of our lawyer Mr. Deepesh Aneja and the lawyer in another
 similar matter, passed an important order on 8th May, 2014 ruling that
 the post of Computer Teacher in schools is deemed to be identified for
 reservation and appointment of the visually impaired.

 Equally important is the fact that the Delhi High Court pronounced an
 empowering interpretation of Section 58 of the Persons With
 Disabilities Act and stated that the Chief Commissioner for Persons
 With Disabilities is a Statutory body who has the powers to Ensure
 that the rights made available to persons with disabilities are given
 effect to. Meaning thereby, those who are subject to the provisions of
 the Act are to be made accountable for their acts and if it is found
 that an organization is not implementing the provisions of the Act the
 said organization be compelled to do so.The judgment further goes on
 to state this would mean that the Chief Commissioner for Persons with
 Disabilities has the statutory power to ensure that such posts which
 are identified for reservation concerning visually differently abled
 persons are filled up from the said/category of persons.While
 referring the two petitions in reference for final adjudication to the
 Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities, The High Court
 directed that the CCPD would dispose of the matter in three days time
 and his orders would be complied with by all concerned without
 demur.

 As per these directions, the Chief Commissioner for Persons With
 Disabilities held the hearing of this case on 12th May, 2014 with the
 courtroom filled to capacity. The final orders were passed by the CCPD
 on 15th May, 2014 directing the Delhi Subordinate Services Selection
 Board and the concerned departments of the Delhi Government to reserve
 1% vacancies for the blind and the low vision on the two posts (among
 others) in reference, that is the Special Educator and Computer
 Teacher. Directions have also been given to issue a corrigendum and
 re-open the application process in respect of these posts so that the
 visually impaired persons can apply on both reserved and unreserved
 vacancies relating to the posts in reference.

 It is pertinent to mention that many visually impaired persons had
 approached AICB after the denial of reservation on these posts as it
 meant denial of jobs for scores of blind and low vision persons. This
 important judgment will ensure equitable reservation for visually
 impaired persons in recruitments, create substantial job opportunities
 for them in the recruitment process which has been challenged by AICB
 and, also provide much needed teeth to the Chief Commissioner for
 Persons with Disabilities to enforce his directions. Also, in similar
 instances, this judgment would prove to be very useful in various
 states. For more information, the Secretary General of AICB, Mr. J.L.
 Kaul or the undersigned may be contacted on their mobile numbers
 9810684208 and 9871495050 respectively.


 Dr. Anil K. Aneja.
 Vice President, All India Confederation of the Blind.



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Re: [AI] Skibe help

2014-05-18 Thread jitesh jain
hi Friends I Am jitesh jain please tel me how to install audacity
time to meet up again

On 5/15/14, vatsal shah vatsal2...@gmail.com wrote:
 halo i am vatsal shah from baroda, gujarat.please contact my sir who is
 expert and genious.his name is bharat vaya.his e mail i.d is
 bharatv...@gmail.com and sorry to inform that i dont have his mobile
 number.you can give him my reference.my cell number is 09638059449.
   - Original Message -
   From: Yogesh Chhabra
   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
   Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:15 PM
   Subject: Re: [AI] Skibe help


   hi, download the latest jaws script for skype from the link below.
   http://www.dlee.org/skype/
   for installations instructions of script, please visit
   http://www.dlee.org/skype/inst.php

   warm regards,
   yogesh chhabra.

   On 5/9/14, Ritu Shrivastav rituma...@gmail.com wrote:
Respected elders and my dear friends,
Iam Ritu Shrivastava.
How are you all.
Iam fine and daily pray for the happy, ever progressing and prosperus
life of all of you.
Actually Iam a new user of Skibe.
So, if possible, please guide me about how can I use it with jaws and
from where I can download the jaws script and how can I install it and
use it with skibe?
Is there any user manual, which can guide the visually challenged
 persons?
If yes, then please suggest me.
I hope, that my queery will be entertained soon
Thankyoou
Yours faithfuly
Ritu
   
   
   
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Re: [AI] Is bank transaction riskier for the blind?

2014-05-18 Thread Vamshi. G
Dear Shadab,

Being visually challenged as well as a banker, let me put forth my
thoughts on this.

1.  Use on line banking as far as possible.
2.  Activate SMS alerts on your mobile so that you get to know about
the transaction as soon it is over.
3.  Every time you visit the branch, get home a few transaction slips
so that you get them  filled up by people whom you can trust.
4.  Remember the denominations and make sure you tell them to the
employee so that he gets to know that you are sure of what you are
doing.
4.  If you are banking with SBI, use your debit card to withdraw as
well as deposit cash into your account at green channel counters so
that you won't need to fill any forms.  If you want to deposit cash
into an account repeatedly, you can take a GRC (green remit card)
which you can use for depositing cash.  The beneficiary as well as the
remmitter will get SMS alerts about the transaction.

If you can be specific about the ways you are getting cheated, I can
provide guidance on the ways to prevent the same.





On 5/18/14, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
 Dear Shadab
 i think, you need to trust the bank staf,
 first of all, even if you are taking big sum,
 it is not every day, i suppose,
 second you can have netbanking, so you can see on mobile,
 how much amount you have withdrawn, after your transaction.so you you
 can be sure.
 thurd, they need to worrey about there jobs.


 At 04:29 PM 5/17/2014, you wrote:
I go alone.

What reasons you have for bank staff being honest?

Sent from my iPhone

  On 17-May-2014, at 5:59 pm, Aravind R aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  bank employees wont cheat don't worry. they are not that much wicked
  people. anyway, you normally go with someone no? so you can verify.
 
  On 5/17/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:
  Friends, what risks the blind face doing bank transactions? Can the
  bank employees themselves cheat us? Please shed light on this crucial
  issue because often I transact and fear getting cheated. Your advice
  will comfort me very much. Thanks Shadab
 
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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Arjun Malhotra
I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public
forum. Looking forward for case citation.

On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after he is
 sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did everything
 which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his case
 at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting positive
 judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my ears over the
 phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular? What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation? Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred to by
 NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who helped his
 lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its logical conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please don't
 believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone else without
 facts.
 I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually challenged
 signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped with their
 suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed up and compiled
 the
 documents. I took the lead mainly because of the complaints that I had read
 on accessindia and also because of your friend. I have always  shared my
 information of this forum.
 Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request to you
 is that you should get your facts in order before accusing anyone.
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Kasia
 Sent: 18 May 2014 14:33
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 O dear. I guess you're much talented in interpretating my suggestions. I
 was
 asking you to offer your support to that fellow in private if you don't
 want
 others' intervensions.

 While sending this email, I got one more evidence from one of the
 colleagues
 from United India Insurance Company. He was telling the same. As you wanted
 to gain name for the things which was not even done by you. He said he was
 asking suggestion for his case against NSDL who they were not accepting
 blind customers and you were neglecting it at the beginning and after he's
 obtaining a judgement from the Chennai Highcourt, you were asking the
 judgement and you advertised as you fought for that and got it.

 So stop bullying please.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:26 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Its really strange that you write to me in a public forum calling me names
 and you expect me to respond to you directly.

 Also I am once again requesting you to read archives-I reply only on
 Sundays
 and that too if I am at home. Now I will have to go ogg line and attend to
 other matters. I will not be able to check my emails for a week.
 Why are you calling me a liar. I am being civil to you. Kindly explain your
 statement and if you think that I really am a liar then please tell me what
 I have lied to you about.
 I normally get into trouble because of my frankness but this is the first
 time I have been accused of being a liar.
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Kasia
 Sent: 18 May 2014 14:18
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Your insteant replies and way of writing making sure that you got more time
 with your fingers and also how 

[AI] Audio Labellers

2014-05-18 Thread Bhavya shah
Dear all.
I just discovered the penfriend audio labeller and touch memo while
surfing the web.
Can you all share reviews/experiences with audio labellers, penfriend
in particular?
Also, do you all have any innovative ideas I [I am a twelve year old
studying in 7th standard in an inclusive school with a laptop as a
means of taking notes] could use an audio labeller for?
I would appreciate any assistance.
P.S. I am soon visiting RNIB so do you all have any suggestions for
me, any particular thing I should check out in RNIB?
-- 
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah
Contact Details:
E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
Skype username: bhavya.09



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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread akhilesh
Dear Kasia,
if you can mind your language please?
Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and
we know it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests
from Radio udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have
believe them without any research.  hmm?
Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member
of this list and also of this society.

On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after he
 is
 sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did everything
 which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his
 case
 at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting positive
 judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my ears over
 the
 phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation?
 Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred to by
 NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who helped
 his
 lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its logical
 conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please
 don't
 believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone else without
 facts.
 I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually challenged
 signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped with their
 suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed up and compiled
 the
 documents. I took the lead mainly because of the complaints that I had
 read
 on accessindia and also because of your friend. I have always  shared my
 information of this forum.
 Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request to
 you
 is that you should get your facts in order before accusing anyone.
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Kasia
 Sent: 18 May 2014 14:33
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 O dear. I guess you're much talented in interpretating my suggestions. I
 was
 asking you to offer your support to that fellow in private if you don't
 want
 others' intervensions.

 While sending this email, I got one more evidence from one of the
 colleagues
 from United India Insurance Company. He was telling the same. As you
 wanted
 to gain name for the things which was not even done by you. He said he
 was
 asking suggestion for his case against NSDL who they were not accepting
 blind customers and you were neglecting it at the beginning and after
 he's
 obtaining a judgement from the Chennai Highcourt, you were asking the
 judgement and you advertised as you fought for that and got it.

 So stop bullying please.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:26 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Its really strange that you write to me in a public forum calling me
 names
 and you expect me to respond to you directly.

 Also I am once again requesting you to read archives-I reply only on
 Sundays
 and that too if I am at home. Now I will have to go ogg line and attend
 to
 other matters. I will not be able to check my emails for a week.
 Why are you calling me a liar. I am being civil to you. Kindly explain
 your
 statement and if you think that I really am a liar then please tell me
 what
 I have lied to you about.
 I normally get into trouble because of my frankness but this is the 

[AI] talking colour identifiers

2014-05-18 Thread Bhavya shah
Dear all.
I am aware that a quite similar question has been asked recently but I
would like to ask it again...
To effectively manage clothing are talking colour identifiers really
very helpful? I mean with practise can we efficiently manage our
wardrobe with tactile differentiation of clothing?
What are the best physical products in the market that can meet the
following requirements:
intelligible english text to speech output, volume control for equal
efficiency in noisy surroundings/circumstances, accuracy in colour
identification, basic additional information such as lightness or
darkness of colour be announced if toggled on and not expensive
According to my research, I found the following talking colour identifiers:
Color Talk
Colorino Talking Color Identifier
Color Teller
Speechmaster Talking Color Identifier
The ColorTest 150
Cobolt Colour Detector
Please help me choose an inexpensive but efficient talking colour
identifier that meet the above mentioned requirements.
Also, what are the advantages or disadvantages of physical talking
colour identifiers and accessible Android colour identification apps
over each other? This is because if accessible Android colour
identification apps are equally accurate then it would be just
wonderful to have a light and portable colour identifier!
I would appreciate any assistance.


-- 
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah
Contact Details:
E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
Skype username: bhavya.09



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Re: [AI] Audio Labellers

2014-05-18 Thread Manish Agrawal
If you use a NFC capable android phone, like the nexus 4 or 5, you can also get 
the same functionality as that provided by tools like the ones you have 
mentioned here on your phone.
The benefit of using an android app is that you do not need to buy a separate 
device, remember to keep its battery charged or carry it around, can buy off 
the shelf NFC stickers instead of the proprietary stickers used by these 
devices and easily copy and share your audio labels across devices.

You can read more about this at:

http://iaccessible.net/audiolabeller/

Regards,
Manish


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Bhavya shah
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:22 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.; keyboardusers
Subject: [AI] Audio Labellers

Dear all.
I just discovered the penfriend audio labeller and touch memo while
surfing the web.
Can you all share reviews/experiences with audio labellers, penfriend
in particular?
Also, do you all have any innovative ideas I [I am a twelve year old
studying in 7th standard in an inclusive school with a laptop as a
means of taking notes] could use an audio labeller for?
I would appreciate any assistance.
P.S. I am soon visiting RNIB so do you all have any suggestions for
me, any particular thing I should check out in RNIB?
-- 
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah
Contact Details:
E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
Skype username: bhavya.09



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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Kasia
O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether she's a
lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with her
fake fantacies.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of akhilesh
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Dear Kasia,
if you can mind your language please?
Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we know
it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from Radio
udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
without any research.  hmm?
Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member of
this list and also of this society.

On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is 
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan 
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he 
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible 
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her 
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are 
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public 
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after 
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did 
 everything which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his 
 case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting 
 positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my 
 ears over the phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter 
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation?
 Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred 
 to by NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who 
 helped his lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its 
 logical conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please 
 don't believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone 
 else without facts.
 I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually 
 challenged signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped 
 with their suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed 
 up and compiled the documents. I took the lead mainly because of the 
 complaints that I had read on accessindia and also because of your 
 friend. I have always  shared my information of this forum.
 Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request 
 to you is that you should get your facts in order before accusing 
 anyone.
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of Kasia
 Sent: 18 May 2014 14:33
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter 
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 O dear. I guess you're much talented in interpretating my 
 suggestions. I was asking you to offer your support to that fellow in 
 private if you don't want others' intervensions.

 While sending this email, I got one more evidence from one of the 
 colleagues from United India Insurance Company. He was telling the 
 same. As you wanted to gain name for the things which was not even 
 done by you. He said he was asking suggestion for his case against 
 NSDL who they were not accepting blind customers and you were 
 neglecting it at the beginning and after he's obtaining a judgement 
 from the Chennai Highcourt, you were asking the judgement and you 
 advertised as you fought for that and got it.

 So stop bullying please.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:26 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter 
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 Its really strange that you write to me in a public forum calling me 
 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread George Abraham
This kind of writing on the list is not acceptable. Harish! please
intervene. An apology is in order.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kasia
Sent: 19 May 2014 06:08
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
Delhi judicial services exam

O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether she's a
lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with her
fake fantacies.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of akhilesh
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
Delhi
judicial services exam

Dear Kasia,
if you can mind your language please?
Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we
know
it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from Radio
udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
without any research.  hmm?
Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member of
this list and also of this society.

On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is 
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan 
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he 
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible 
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her 
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are 
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public 
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after 
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did 
 everything which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his 
 case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting 
 positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my 
 ears over the phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter 
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation?
 Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred 
 to by NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who 
 helped his lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its 
 logical conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please 
 don't believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone 
 else without facts.
 I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually 
 challenged signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped 
 with their suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed 
 up and compiled the documents. I took the lead mainly because of the 
 complaints that I had read on accessindia and also because of your 
 friend. I have always  shared my information of this forum.
 Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request 
 to you is that you should get your facts in order before accusing 
 anyone.
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of Kasia
 Sent: 18 May 2014 14:33
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter 
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 O dear. I guess you're much talented in interpretating my 
 suggestions. I was asking you to offer your support to that fellow in 
 private if you don't want others' intervensions.

 While sending this email, I got one more evidence from one of the 
 colleagues from United India Insurance Company. He was telling the 
 same. As you wanted to gain name for the things which was not even 
 done by you. He said he was asking suggestion for his case against 
 NSDL who they were not accepting blind customers and you were 
 neglecting it at the beginning and after he's obtaining a judgement 
 from the Chennai Highcourt, you were asking the judgement and you 
 advertised as you fought for that and got it.

 So stop bullying please.


[AI] World's 'first' Braille phone goes on sale

2014-05-18 Thread Shiv
Source:
http://m.timesofindia.com/articleshow/35301597.cms

World's 'first' Braille phone goes on sale
May 18, 2014, 02.09PM IST PTI


A London-based company claims to have put the world's first Braille phone, 
which costs just 60 pounds, for sale in UK.LONDON: A London-based company 
claims to have put the world's first Braille phone, which costs just 60 pounds, 
for sale in UK.

The phone has been designed to provide an instant connection between blind 
users and their friends and family, its manufacturers said.

The front and back of the phone, which is currently only available in the UK, 
is constructed using 3D printing techniques and can be customised.

According to OwnFone, its braille phone, that comes in a variety of different 
colours, is the first of its kind to go on sale.

The company can even print raised text on the keypad for those who can not read 
Braille, the 'BBC News' reported.

According to the inventor of the phone Tom Sunderland, 3D printing the front 
and back of the device helped to keep the costs down to 60 pounds.

The phone can be personalized with two or four Braille buttons which are 
pre-programmed to call friends, family, careers or the emergency services, 
Sunderland said.

This is the first phone to have a 3D printed keypad and for people that can't 
read Braille, we can print texture and raised text on the phone. Our 3D phone 
printing process is patent pending, he said.

People who wish to buy the phone can create a custom design on the company's 
website.

While this may be the first Braille phone available in the market, the idea has 
been explored before as well.

Last year, India-based start-up Kriyate developed a prototype Braille-enabled 
smartphone, featuring a repressible Braille display and feedback controls that 
beep or vibrate after receiving certain commands, the report said. 


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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread li...@srinivasu.org
Kasia,
I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and helped 
community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me ten good 
things that you have done to help people on this list. I would suggest ease 
make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right forum for 
you.  

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether she's a
 lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with her
 fake fantacies.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
 judicial services exam
 
 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we know
 it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from Radio
 udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
 without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member of
 this list and also of this society.
 
 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is 
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan 
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he 
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible 
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her 
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are 
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public 
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.
 
 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after 
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did 
 everything which are all for blind.
 
 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his 
 case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting 
 positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my 
 ears over the phone at present.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter 
 in Delhi judicial services exam
 
 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation?
 Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred 
 to by NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who 
 helped his lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its 
 logical conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please 
 don't believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone 
 else without facts.
 I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually 
 challenged signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped 
 with their suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed 
 up and compiled the documents. I took the lead mainly because of the 
 complaints that I had read on accessindia and also because of your 
 friend. I have always  shared my information of this forum.
 Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request 
 to you is that you should get your facts in order before accusing 
 anyone.
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of Kasia
 Sent: 18 May 2014 14:33
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter 
 in Delhi judicial services exam
 
 O dear. I guess you're much talented in interpretating my 
 suggestions. I was asking you to offer your support to that fellow in 
 private if you don't want others' intervensions.
 
 While sending this email, I got one more evidence from one of the 
 colleagues from United India Insurance Company. He was telling the 
 same. As you wanted to gain name for the things which was not even 
 done by you. He said he was asking suggestion for his case against 
 NSDL who they were not accepting blind customers and you were 
 neglecting it at the beginning and after he's obtaining a judgement 
 from the Chennai Highcourt, you were asking the judgement and you 
 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Rahul Kelapure
Strainge it is.

Kanchan had been composed and civil iin her reply and Kasia is going
on and on for nothing.

Kasia, if you had any problem with Kanchan, you should have sent her a
private mail instead of writing on the list. You accuse Kanchan of
something on some hearsay and you expect she shouldn't respond to you
on the list? how bizzarre is that.

I am the testimony as to how Kanchan had helped me and there are so
many others like me I am sure.

Kasia, you must apologise.

Harish, please interveen in the matter.

On 5/19/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Kasia,
 I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and helped
 community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me ten
 good things that you have done to help people on this list. I would suggest
 ease make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right forum
 for you.

 Regards,
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
 Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether she's
 a
 lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with
 her
 fake fantacies.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we
 know
 it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from Radio
 udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
 without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member of
 this list and also of this society.

 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did
 everything which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his
 case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting
 positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my
 ears over the phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation?
 Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred
 to by NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who
 helped his lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its
 logical conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please
 don't believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone
 else without facts.
 I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually
 challenged signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped
 with their suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed
 up and compiled the documents. I took the lead mainly because of the
 complaints that I had read on accessindia and also because of your
 friend. I have always  shared my information of this forum.
 Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request
 to you is that you should get your facts in order before accusing
 anyone.
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Kasia
 Sent: 18 May 2014 14:33
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 O dear. I guess you're much talented in interpretating my
 suggestions. I was asking you to offer your support to 

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2014-05-18 Thread karan singhania
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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread subhashvashishth
I am sure the list rules clearly define in unequivocal terms as to what can be 
discussed here.  Personal accusations  maligning a fellow advocate committed 
to disability rights is uncalled for on a public list like this for I 
personally know Kanchan well. 

Stop this right away and we request the moderator to expunge the defamatory 
mails from the list archives and reprimand the defaulter. 

Regds
SC Vashishth 




Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

-Original Message-
From: Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com
Sender: AccessIndia accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 10:06:03 
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning  
the disabled.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Reply-To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
 judicial services exam

Strainge it is.

Kanchan had been composed and civil iin her reply and Kasia is going
on and on for nothing.

Kasia, if you had any problem with Kanchan, you should have sent her a
private mail instead of writing on the list. You accuse Kanchan of
something on some hearsay and you expect she shouldn't respond to you
on the list? how bizzarre is that.

I am the testimony as to how Kanchan had helped me and there are so
many others like me I am sure.

Kasia, you must apologise.

Harish, please interveen in the matter.

On 5/19/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Kasia,
 I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and helped
 community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me ten
 good things that you have done to help people on this list. I would suggest
 ease make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right forum
 for you.

 Regards,
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
 Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether she's
 a
 lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with
 her
 fake fantacies.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we
 know
 it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from Radio
 udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
 without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member of
 this list and also of this society.

 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did
 everything which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his
 case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting
 positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my
 ears over the phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation?
 Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred
 to by NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who
 helped his lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its
 logical conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please
 don't believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone
 else without facts.
 I can only say that 22 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Ajay Minocha
Hi Kasia,
Despite abusing a very respectable member, you haven't sighted any
solid situation so that anybuddy can believe you.
People like you have nothing to do except spilling garbedge on public
platforms.
according to me, such kind of members are unacceptable on public platforms.
Thanks,
Ajay

On 5/19/14, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Strainge it is.

 Kanchan had been composed and civil iin her reply and Kasia is going
 on and on for nothing.

 Kasia, if you had any problem with Kanchan, you should have sent her a
 private mail instead of writing on the list. You accuse Kanchan of
 something on some hearsay and you expect she shouldn't respond to you
 on the list? how bizzarre is that.

 I am the testimony as to how Kanchan had helped me and there are so
 many others like me I am sure.

 Kasia, you must apologise.

 Harish, please interveen in the matter.

 On 5/19/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Kasia,
 I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and helped
 community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me ten
 good things that you have done to help people on this list. I would
 suggest
 ease make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right
 forum
 for you.

 Regards,
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
 Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether she's
 a
 lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with
 her
 fake fantacies.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we
 know
 it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from Radio
 udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
 without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member of
 this list and also of this society.

 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did
 everything which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his
 case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting
 positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my
 ears over the phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the
 representation?
 Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred
 to by NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who
 helped his lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its
 logical conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please
 don't believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone
 else without facts.
 I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually
 challenged signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped
 with their suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed
 up and compiled the documents. I took the lead mainly because of the
 complaints that I had read on accessindia and also because of your
 friend. I have always  shared my information of this forum.
 Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request
 to you is that you should get your facts in order before accusing
 anyone.
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia 

[AI] Moderator: Personal attacks- RE: Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Kotian, H P
All
It is painful and annoying to see the tone and the aggressive ways in which 
  accusations are thrown around to make a point.

Firstly, please remember  the mails cannot be retracted back and it is there to 
stay.
Secondly, the mails are public and it is similar to speaking out in a public 
space. Hence, you should exercise extreme care while conducting yourself on the 
list.
Thirdly, the list cannot be denigrated to hurl abuses at anyone

This thread is closed for all traffic with immediate effect.
Regards
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
li...@srinivasu.org
Sent: 19 May 2014 09:10
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi 
judicial services exam

Kasia,
I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and helped 
community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me ten good 
things that you have done to help people on this list. I would suggest ease 
make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right forum for you.

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether
 she's a lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list.
 But with her fake fantacies.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi judicial services exam

 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and
 we know it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests
 from Radio udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have
 believe them without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member
 of this list and also of this society.

 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this
 public forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did
 everything which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring
 his case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is
 getting positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having
 him on my ears over the phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation?
 Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred
 to by NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to
 who helped his lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to
 its logical conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm.
 Please don't believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe
 everyone else without facts.
 I can only say that 22 organisations working with he visually
 challenged signed the representation. Everyone on accessindia helped
 with their suggestions so it is always a group effort.XRCVC folloed
 up and compiled the documents. I took the lead mainly because of the
 complaints that I had read on accessindia and also because of your
 friend. I have always  shared my information of this forum.
 Sorry I cant continue this discussion until next weekend. My request
 to you is that you should get your facts in order before accusing
 anyone.
 Kanchan
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Kasia
 Sent: 18 May 2014 14:33
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
Please stop this deprecative and unwarranted assertions against
respected member of this list. . These allegations are capricious and
personally motivated. I simply asked for any legal assistance, for
which she came out and offered her help. If members use such
derogatory language against those persons who are coming forward to
help us, who will do so in future?
Yes I was also little bit surprised when she wrote that she doesn't
agree with my first point! but believe me she opined in a very
practical way, these are the arguments which are raised inside the
courtroom during argumentation with opposite parties. A lawyer has to
take into consideration the arguments which may be raised by opponent.
I remember when I was arguing once in Delhi High Court, against UGC in
one of my own case, I argued that this condition was never mentioned
in application form nor in advertisement, Honorable Justice Kelash
Gambhir replied to me that each and every thing can not be written in
advertisement!
So no personal allegations.

On 5/19/14, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Kasia,
 Despite abusing a very respectable member, you haven't sighted any
 solid situation so that anybuddy can believe you.
 People like you have nothing to do except spilling garbedge on public
 platforms.
 according to me, such kind of members are unacceptable on public platforms.
 Thanks,
 Ajay

 On 5/19/14, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Strainge it is.

 Kanchan had been composed and civil iin her reply and Kasia is going
 on and on for nothing.

 Kasia, if you had any problem with Kanchan, you should have sent her a
 private mail instead of writing on the list. You accuse Kanchan of
 something on some hearsay and you expect she shouldn't respond to you
 on the list? how bizzarre is that.

 I am the testimony as to how Kanchan had helped me and there are so
 many others like me I am sure.

 Kasia, you must apologise.

 Harish, please interveen in the matter.

 On 5/19/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Kasia,
 I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and
 helped
 community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me
 ten
 good things that you have done to help people on this list. I would
 suggest
 ease make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right
 forum
 for you.

 Regards,
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
 Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether
 she's
 a
 lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with
 her
 fake fantacies.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we
 know
 it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from
 Radio
 udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
 without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member
 of
 this list and also of this society.

 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did
 everything which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his
 case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting
 positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my
 ears over the phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the
 

Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-18 Thread payal
Unfounded spouting of venom is really something we can do without on this
list. Unfortunately we don't have any defamation clauses on this list.
A member out of nowhere decides he/she can say whatever they choose about a
member of longstanding repute is not only unfortunate but also uncalled for.

I agree with the rest when they say this information should be expunged with
sufficient action taken against persons like this to ensure name calling and
venom spouting is kept out.
What Kanchan has done, is known to most on this list here. no action was
taken on an earlier occasion when things were said in  unsavoury manner too.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 10:06 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi
judicial services exam

Strainge it is.

Kanchan had been composed and civil iin her reply and Kasia is going
on and on for nothing.

Kasia, if you had any problem with Kanchan, you should have sent her a
private mail instead of writing on the list. You accuse Kanchan of
something on some hearsay and you expect she shouldn't respond to you
on the list? how bizzarre is that.

I am the testimony as to how Kanchan had helped me and there are so
many others like me I am sure.

Kasia, you must apologise.

Harish, please interveen in the matter.

On 5/19/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Kasia,
 I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and helped
 community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me ten
 good things that you have done to help people on this list. I would
suggest
 ease make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right
forum
 for you.

 Regards,
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
 Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether she's
 a
 lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with
 her
 fake fantacies.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we
 know
 it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from Radio
 udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
 without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member of
 this list and also of this society.

 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did
 everything which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his
 case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting
 positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my
 ears over the phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of KanchanPamnani
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 What is the date of this judgement? What is the date of the circular?
 What
 is the representation that was submitted? Who wrote the representation?
 Who
 went to discuss the matter and sorted it out?What has been referred
 to by NSDL-please check your facts and also ask your friend as to who
 helped his lawyer? Why did your friend not follow his case to its
 logical conclusion?
 Why he didn't share it with Accessindia?
 Just go back to emails of  2007 if you really want to confirm. Please
 don't believe me if you don't trust me but don't believe everyone
 else without facts.
 I can only say that 22