Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

[Andy Trimmell]

I liked when the conversation started with people adding in some ways to 
possibly resolve things.  Ideas are great. Pointing fingers is divisive. 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2022 10:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

 

After republicans take office the police, firefighters, libraries and schools 
get defunded/reduced, I'm on a local fireboard, experinced it happen several 
times.  Don't complain to me about who's doing the defunding.

On 6/6/22 11:05, Steve Jones wrote:

There has to be a decision made on what we want from police. 

You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress any other 
ethnicity.

You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you demand 
they be ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a split second notice

you cant demand police protect schools at all times while 
simultaneously eliminating 50 percent of the school resource officers.

You cant demand the school resource officers be a soft presence while 
you also want them shooting perps in the face.

You cant do any of this at all while also defunding the police.

 

Military is ready because theyre always ready, police are never ready 
because theyre always in sensitivty classes, or being arrested for doing their 
job because the media said so.

 

Firefightrs are no more capable of handling these situations than 
police, theyre all people

 

Theres also insurability. Scene safety if paramount in all Emergency 
services. Firefighters dont run into active petrochemical fires the same as 
they would run into a residential structure fire. There is a line in which the 
insurance companies (and taxpayers) will not tolerate the risk. When monday 
morning quarterbacking gives way to tuesday morning reality, the demands will 
seem much less realistic

 

 

I say we just burn it all. pick any longitudinal point and light her 
up. May only the strongest and fastest survive

 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM castarritt  wrote:

We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do the job 
anymore.  We need terminator robots.

 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
 wrote:

I have been shot at, but never been in combat.  I don’t 
carry a weapon because I don’t want that option.  That option is one of the 
initial starting conditions of a higher order ordinary differential equation.  

I prefer a linear equation.  

 

If a firefighter is armored such that they can probably 
survive a gunshot, that would steer their thinking toward rescue over taking 
out the shooter.  Let the cops do that.  

 

From: Jason McKemie 

Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

 

True, if they're properly trained and doing their job 
it would be more effective.

 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert 
 wrote:

There was also the shooting down in the south, 
where they had a school "police" officer who stood back and did nothing.   
That's not necessarily a solution either.

On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Seems like we should just be giving 
additional funding to police departments so that they can have a regular 
presence at schools.

 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck 
McCown via AF  wrote:

I may regret posting this but I had a 
thought.

 

How about we let the fire department 
handle active shooters at schools.  

They know how to get there fast.  They 
are ready to go at an instants notice.  

They know how to breach any building 
and rescue survivors.

They have heavy protective gear on, 
just add a layer of kevlar.  

Or give them extra/different gear they 
can don on the way to the incident.  

They sure as hell don’t stand around 
outside discussing jurisdiction and strategy.  

They care more about rescue than they 
do about their own lives.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

[Andy Trimmell]

If anything shoots back or has the ability to do so most of them aren’t too 
interested in that from what I’ve experienced.  They get very upset if you 
don’t disclose if you had bullets or guns in the fire they’re working. If they 
find out they pull all of the fire fighters out.  

 

I’d be interested to see what a Department of Education Task Force or Police 
Force would look like to protect schools on a federal level.

 

But I’m all for 1st responders actually responding instead of spending their 
time fighting parents who want to go in and help save lives. I’m also for 
raising the age that a person can obtain a semi-automatic rifle and I’d like 
some kind of health screening done to obtain them. 

 

I have no problem passing a mental health screening to obtain anymore.

 

Just my opinion

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 12:14 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

 

Not a totally terribly idea..

I should point out that the city of Sunnyvale California eliminated the "fire 
department" many years ago (we lived in Sunnyvale until 1996). They have 
"Public Safety Officers". These officers patrol the city in police cruisers, 
and where they roam is determined by an algorithm that attempts to predict 
where they might be needed. Each officer has their fire fighting gear in the 
trunk of the cruiser so that if there's a fire, they will be ready. 

They city saved an enormous amount of money by combining the two departments, 
and their success rate is very good.

 

bp


On 6/6/2022 9:05 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

I may regret posting this but I had a thought.

 

How about we let the fire department handle active shooters at schools. 
 

They know how to get there fast.  They are ready to go at an instants 
notice.  

They know how to breach any building and rescue survivors.

They have heavy protective gear on, just add a layer of kevlar.  

Or give them extra/different gear they can don on the way to the 
incident.  

They sure as hell don’t stand around outside discussing jurisdiction 
and strategy.  

They care more about rescue than they do about their own lives.  





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Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Andy Trimmell]

The biggest problem is that people have created a barrier with politics to 
unlove people.  No one is allowed to just have an opinion. It has to be this 
emotional debate of the ages and if you’re not all in then you’re all out. 

 

All politicians lie. Bush lied to people, Obama lied to people, Trump lied and 
Biden has lied and is lying.  From pro-life to flat earther to BLM all of the 
people hating on each other have no humility or severely lack in it.  

 

I’ve watched all these sides willing to kill or die to be able or not be able 
to kill or die.  

 

It’s all sad and with social media gas lighting the most miniscule things it’s 
not going away. 

 

If I went and shunned my father because he truly believed Jimmy Carter was 
going to do good when he voted for him and it ended with my dad starving I 
wouldn’t have a relationship with, in my opinion, is the best dad a guy could 
have.

 

I don’t know about any of you but I’m out there in the world to create change 
and help people in my community. I hope anyone complaining about the world 
isn’t just sitting in their recliner and they’re doing the same thing.

 

I hope you all have a great day.

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 9:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck.

 

 

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM  wrote:

Weirdly opposite here.  My brothers are vocally alt-right.  All 
ex-military, all purport to be Christian.  One is dead from substance abuse and 
suffered a variety of mental health issues.  The surviving two are always 
broke, angry, and unhappy.  I feel like I have to tiptoe around them so they 
don’t fly off the handle about anything.

 

…..and I’m not at all “woke”.  I just know it’s not for me to pass 
judgement.

 

On the other hand, this is NY.  Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels 
fighting the evil liberal death star.  Maybe your kids in Utah feel like 
they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.  

 

That is how I would describe some of my kids.

 

The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.  

 

Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners 
just to be able to still see some of my kids.  

Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a 
lifetime sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their 
whims just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in 
the woods.  Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.  

 

Odd times

I loved my parents and grandparents.  

Never felt they had to earn it.  

Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said.  

 

Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me.  Our families 
were separate all while the kids were growing.

But some of hers have done the same things to her.  Using the exact 
same vernacular. 

 

Must have something to do with energy drinks I think. 

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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Would you allow Tor exit node hosting in your AS?

[Andy Trimmell]

I think if you have them agree to a ToS where you can wash your hands of it if 
it doesn’t work out seems logical.  Make sure it’s an IP address (or block) 
that you’re willing to live without if things go south and you have to 
blackhole it for an unknown amount of time.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 3:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Would you allow Tor exit node hosting in your AS?

 

There may be nothing wrong with doing it ethically or legally, but it sounds 
like asking for trouble to me. Seems likely to invite DDOS and get your IP 
blocks on who knows what sort of black lists.

 

On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 2:25 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

Nothing wrong with hosting it, I wonder if hosting an exit node might 
invite ddos though, can they determine who is hosting it? Dealing with 
subpoenas would be pretty simple as it's an anonymized protocol. 

 

On Tue, May 17, 2022, 11:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:

Not even considering it.  I stay as far away from the dark 
web/tor stuff as I can.  

 

From: Daniel Pautz via AF 

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 12:40 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Cc: Daniel Pautz 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Would you allow Tor exit node hosting 
in your AS?

 

If you do,  get ready for the DOJ / homeland security, FBI and 
everyone else subpoena’s at some point.   Not work the hassle in my mind as 
there is so much abuse.  

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
via AF
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 12:25 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: Would you allow Tor exit node hosting in 
your AS?

 

Hmmm

 

From: Chuck McCown 

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 12:22 PM

To: Isaac Grover, Aileron I.T. 

Subject: Re: Would you allow Tor exit node hosting in your AS?

 

No thanks.  

 

From: Isaac Grover, Aileron I.T. 

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 12:20 PM

To: ch...@go-mtc.com 

Subject: Would you allow Tor exit node hosting in your AS?

 

Good afternoon from Wisconsin,

 

Given the political upheaval in many countries right now, my 
friends and I are looking to spin up some Tor exit nodes so the citizens of 
these repressed countries can keep in touch with their families abroad and 
access unbiased independent news sources.

 

Do you allow hosting of Tor exit nodes for TCP ports 80 and 443 
in your AS (autonomous system)?  Please let me know, and thank you in advance.  
:)

 

Make your day great,
Isaac Grover, President/vCIO
Aileron I.T. – “ Because #ProactiveIsBetter ”

 

O: 715-377-0440, F:715-690-1029, W: www.aileronit.com 
  

 

Error! Filename not specified. 
 

 





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Re: [AFMUG] Favorite Small Server Rack UPS

[Andy Trimmell]

What’s the prices on those Alpha FXM series if you don’t mind me asking?  

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 12:51 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Cc: Peter Kranz
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite Small Server Rack UPS

 

I prefer these guys when I use lead acid:

https://www.alpha.ca/solutions/products/standard-systems/outdoor-ups-solutions/item/alpha-fxm-hp

 

And these guys when I use lifepo4:

https://www.cet-power.com/en/product/sierra-10-48-230/

(I use the 110V version)

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com  
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2022 9:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Favorite Small Server Rack UPS

 

Haven't really paid much attention to the small server room UPS space in a long 
time. Normally I'd use a few 3000W APCs with external batteries. This location 
has a backup generator but would prefer 45+ minutes of uptime on the servers on 
batteries alone. 

 

What is the current recommendation?

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Re: [AFMUG] Hello?

[Andy Trimmell]

Just 1 with the subject : OT Late 1970s

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From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 11:33 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hello?

The last message I have received is from 4/16.  Has there been traffic 
since then?

Josh Luthman wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Bass

[Andy Trimmell]

Are you sure its not one of your employees?

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 7:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Bass

 

put a 4x4 steel X in the center of the exterior walls. will probably dampen it

 

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 10:49 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

My main building is about 300’ from a very busy highway on one side and 
about the same distance form I-80 on the other side.

Frequently I hear very loud bass lines from music inside my office.  
But if I open a window or go outside I can’t hear it.  I guess the wall of the 
building is picking it up and retransmitting it inside.  It can be very loud.  
Sometimes I get up to see if a bunch of gang bangers in a low rider have pulled 
into my parking lot.  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Google vs Federated

[Andy Trimmell]

That’s the way im leaning.  I’ve asked around the office and it’s crickets so I 
appreciate your thoughts. 

 

Google can roll up the carpets just like Commscope did.  Baicells seems to make 
it fairly simple to switch.

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2022 1:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google vs Federated

 

Commscope hurt me in the feelings.

 

So we had already started to process of having a SAS account with google for 
access to the toolset (you can have an account, no fee, even if you have no 
registered CBSDs) so we were going to go with them even though it seemed like 
getting into a second burning plane after the first one crashed.

 

Then I got some info, Federated apparently has really good logging as far as 
what is taking place. So if you come in one morning with 20 customers down 
because an AP dropped its power after CPAS, you can find out quickly the what 
and why of it.

 

So we are going with federated as our SASand just going to use the free toolset 
from google until they charge us. I dont know what it looks like yet though

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Re: [AFMUG] Google vs Federated

[Andy Trimmell]

https://www.lightreading.com/5g/commscope-ditches-sas-business-in-35ghz-cbrs-band/d/d-id/776471

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 2:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google vs Federated

 

Well, consider Googles Motto : Don’t Be Evil 

 

From: Andy Trimmell 

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 12:14 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google vs Federated

 

I just got email confirmation this morning that Commscope SAS is no more as of 
May 31st.  So I’m looking for pros and cons between Google and Federated.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 1:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google vs Federated

 

Apparently Commscope does as well...

On Thursday, March 31, 2022, Andy Trimmell  wrote:

This.

 

Also my first con was that Google rolls up products all the time when they do 
their yearly audits.  I really don’t want to do this again. 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 9:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Google vs Federated

 

Both are WISPA members.  As a SAS it doesn't really matter if you're GAA in my 
opinion.  Google has worked for me but there's no such thing as support for a 
Google product.  Federated has warm chairs for you to contact.

 

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 9:03 AM Andy Trimmell  wrote:

This didn’t age well.   Now we ask again, Google or Federated? 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:02 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Google vs Federated

 

interesting point

On 8/20/2020 11:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Commscope is the only choice. I couldn't beta cause our world 
crashed around us, but commscope has a billion direct contacts. Google isnt 
even the table. You'll only deal with your sas admin upfront and during a 
disaster, google has no mechanism for humans. I have no beef with federated, 
but comscope/search are gods of responsiveness on all things other and their 
gis is bigger and older 

 

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 1:53 PM Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

Aw man, now I'm gonna have choice overload.

On 8/20/2020 2:51 PM, Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote:
> As of now, you may also choose CommScope!
>
> 
https://www.commscope.com/press-releases/2020/commscope-cbrs-spectrum-access-system-supports-cambium-networks-equipment/
>
> Cheers!
>
> Matt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam 
Moffett
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 1:50 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: [ External ] [AFMUG] Google vs Federated
>
> If I'm doing CBRS through Cambium I can pick Google 
or Federated.
>
> Who do we like better right now?
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Google vs Federated

[Andy Trimmell]

I just got email confirmation this morning that Commscope SAS is no more as of 
May 31st.  So I’m looking for pros and cons between Google and Federated.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 1:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google vs Federated

 

Apparently Commscope does as well...

On Thursday, March 31, 2022, Andy Trimmell  wrote:

This.

 

Also my first con was that Google rolls up products all the time when they do 
their yearly audits.  I really don’t want to do this again. 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 9:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Google vs Federated

 

Both are WISPA members.  As a SAS it doesn't really matter if you're GAA in my 
opinion.  Google has worked for me but there's no such thing as support for a 
Google product.  Federated has warm chairs for you to contact.

 

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 9:03 AM Andy Trimmell  wrote:

This didn’t age well.   Now we ask again, Google or Federated? 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:02 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Google vs Federated

 

interesting point

On 8/20/2020 11:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Commscope is the only choice. I couldn't beta cause our world 
crashed around us, but commscope has a billion direct contacts. Google isnt 
even the table. You'll only deal with your sas admin upfront and during a 
disaster, google has no mechanism for humans. I have no beef with federated, 
but comscope/search are gods of responsiveness on all things other and their 
gis is bigger and older 

 

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 1:53 PM Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

Aw man, now I'm gonna have choice overload.

On 8/20/2020 2:51 PM, Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote:
> As of now, you may also choose CommScope!
>
> 
https://www.commscope.com/press-releases/2020/commscope-cbrs-spectrum-access-system-supports-cambium-networks-equipment/
>
> Cheers!
>
> Matt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam 
Moffett
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 1:50 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: [ External ] [AFMUG] Google vs Federated
>
> If I'm doing CBRS through Cambium I can pick Google 
or Federated.
>
> Who do we like better right now?
>
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Google vs Federated

[Andy Trimmell]

This.

 

Also my first con was that Google rolls up products all the time when they do 
their yearly audits.  I really don’t want to do this again. 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 9:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Google vs Federated

 

Both are WISPA members.  As a SAS it doesn't really matter if you're GAA in my 
opinion.  Google has worked for me but there's no such thing as support for a 
Google product.  Federated has warm chairs for you to contact.

 

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 9:03 AM Andy Trimmell  wrote:

This didn’t age well.   Now we ask again, Google or Federated? 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:02 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Google vs Federated

 

interesting point

On 8/20/2020 11:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Commscope is the only choice. I couldn't beta cause our world 
crashed around us, but commscope has a billion direct contacts. Google isnt 
even the table. You'll only deal with your sas admin upfront and during a 
disaster, google has no mechanism for humans. I have no beef with federated, 
but comscope/search are gods of responsiveness on all things other and their 
gis is bigger and older 

 

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 1:53 PM Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

Aw man, now I'm gonna have choice overload.

On 8/20/2020 2:51 PM, Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote:
> As of now, you may also choose CommScope!
>
> 
https://www.commscope.com/press-releases/2020/commscope-cbrs-spectrum-access-system-supports-cambium-networks-equipment/
>
> Cheers!
>
> Matt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam 
Moffett
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 1:50 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: [ External ] [AFMUG] Google vs Federated
>
> If I'm doing CBRS through Cambium I can pick Google 
or Federated.
>
> Who do we like better right now?
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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Google vs Federated

[Andy Trimmell]

This didn’t age well.   Now we ask again, Google or Federated? 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:02 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Google vs Federated

 

interesting point

On 8/20/2020 11:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Commscope is the only choice. I couldn't beta cause our world crashed 
around us, but commscope has a billion direct contacts. Google isnt even the 
table. You'll only deal with your sas admin upfront and during a disaster, 
google has no mechanism for humans. I have no beef with federated, but 
comscope/search are gods of responsiveness on all things other and their gis is 
bigger and older 

 

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 1:53 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

Aw man, now I'm gonna have choice overload.

On 8/20/2020 2:51 PM, Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote:
> As of now, you may also choose CommScope!
>
> 
https://www.commscope.com/press-releases/2020/commscope-cbrs-spectrum-access-system-supports-cambium-networks-equipment/
>
> Cheers!
>
> Matt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 1:50 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: [ External ] [AFMUG] Google vs Federated
>
> If I'm doing CBRS through Cambium I can pick Google or 
Federated.
>
> Who do we like better right now?
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Web page development

[Andy Trimmell]

I recommend Fiverr.com 

 

Pick someone out and read the reviews. Plenty of options. I've used it
several times and was always satisfied with my investment.

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via
AF
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 12:05 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] Web page development

 

Once again, I find myself needing a nice webpage done.  I have used
companies from india a couple of times with mixed results. 

I have tried local folks that were expensive and slow and not terribly
creative.  

I do them myself if they are not too complex but I am horrible at both
design and marketing.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

[Andy Trimmell]

I’m sitting here wondering how I missed this in CPI training. I believed that 
what was supposed to be “registered” was a CBSD which had specific height 
requirements and type which these units aren’t exceeding these specifications.  
 Yes the product is Baicells.  

 

Anyone else here that uses Baicells gone down this road too with a similar 
assumption?

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 4:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

 

With Baicells LTE it's possible to leave the CPE in non-CBRS mode (either by 
not enabling it, or by just never upgrading the firmware to the CBRS capable 
version), and they'll connect to a CBRS eNB just fine... I wouldn't be 
surprised if that's true for some of the other LTE products too.

 

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:23 PM  wrote:

Well it occurred to me that I’m thinking of Cambium 450 which forces 
you to play by the rules by disabling bridging until the CPE is authorized by 
the SAS.  Maybe Andy has a different product that works differently.

….but yeah all fixed CPE are supposed to be in the SAS.

 

I think mobile devices don’t need to be registered.  Since Andy 
mentioned eNB I’m guessing maybe he’s got an LTE product, and maybe the vendor 
allows you to pretend the UE are all mobile? 

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 4:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

 

Yeah, if they're still running without being registered, you've got 
some problems that need fixing...

 

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:09 PM  wrote:

If you’re using CBRS then your CPE can’t connect at all if it’s 
not registered with the SAS.  It literally won’t connect.

 

I think you may be stuck in another time period.

 

 

    From: AF  On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 4:05 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

 

Do all of you individually register your CPEs?   I just got an 
email out of the blue telling me I need to register each one of the CPEs that 
are connected to my eNBs.  Am I just misunderstanding what he’s saying?

 

 

     

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

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317-831-3000

 

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[AFMUG] OT: CBRS

[Andy Trimmell]

Do all of you individually register your CPEs?   I just got an email out
of the blue telling me I need to register each one of the CPEs that are
connected to my eNBs.  Am I just misunderstanding what he's saying?

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

[Andy Trimmell]

My dad was just talking about walls like this and we’re in Indiana. I don’t 
know where he heard it from but the guy did it about 20 years ago here. He said 
he had to open the door because they were running out of oxygen  LOL

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:46 PM
To: dmmoff...@gmail.com; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

 

Double walls, so really there are three cavities.  Two walls with an air space 
between them.  Insulation and vapor barrier on the outer and inner wall with 
triple glazed windows.  I read a report on these homes being built in Canada.  
They didn’t need much heat.  

 

Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell 
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
www.terabitnetworks.com

 

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:32 AM

To: ch...@go-mtc.com ; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: RE: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

 

I’ve wondered how long firewood wood really last if everyone was trying to use 
it.  Wasn’t there a firewood crisis in the 19th century before they started 
using coal for everything? 

I think reliance on firewood in the apocalypse comes with an implicit 
assumption that everybody else died. If they haven’t died yet then expect 
competition. 

 

I don’t worry too much about water.  You can’t go anywhere in the Northeast 
without tripping over a stream or a spring.  If the spring water is 
contaminated then so is the well water and you’re screwed either way. 

 

How much is triple insulation?  Does that mean R57 in the walls instead of R19?

 

From: ch...@go-mtc.com  
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:09 PM
To: dmmoff...@gmail.com; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

 

Triple insulated home can be heated by only the bodies inside.  

Most areas (other than where I live) there may be wood to burn.  You could 
always use a parabolic solar cooker for cooking.  

Solar hydronic.  Solar electric.  Water is the huge thing.  Need to pump a 
well.  

 

I think move to the tropics where you can eat off the land/sea and run around 
naked all the time.  That is a good solution to the end of the world.  

 

Not much of a prepper anymore.  Too old I guess.  Plus I have an odd condition 
where I don’t get hungry.  So I could starve to death without much suffering.  

 

 

 

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:44 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 

Subject: RE: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

 

Maybe it’s a matter of being self-reliant until your solar panels break vs 
being self-reliant until your fuel runs out.  Years vs months.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

 

That said, the last time I checked, propane and wood pellets cost half that of 
electricity for heating.  And natural gas was half that again.  So natural gas 
vs electric heat pump for heating would probably be the same energy cost.  

 

 

 

From: Chuck McCown via AF 

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 8:40 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

 

3.41 BTU per watt for resistive heating.  Heat pump gives you way more heat per 
watt.  That is why most of the electric cars have gone to heat pumps for the 
heater.  The heat pump Tesla will run the heater for 36 hours and still leave 
you with enough battery to get home in many cases.  

 

Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell 
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
www.terabitnetworks.com

 

From: Robert 

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 7:11 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home

 

The $800 mini-splits I am looking at put out about 6K BTU's of heat on 400 
Watts.  The home depot $300 heaters put out 5K BTU's but require 1500 watts..   
Not going to do well in the winter overnight off grid...   And no a/c in the 
summer...

On 1/20/22 5:53 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:

$1895?  For a one room ac/heater?  Home Depot has something similar for 
$300.  Is it the decal?  Hood ornament?

On 1/19/22 05:13, Zach Underwood wrote:

If you have not already gotten the mini splits take a look at 
https://www.hotspotenergy.com/solar-air-conditioner/ 

It has direct PV inputs when sunny it would put no load on your 
inverter

IT can be put in solar only mode where it will scale the 
cool/heat output to match the power it is gett

Re: [AFMUG] 1U/2U 48V inverter/charger for LiFePO4 48V strings

[Andy Trimmell]

Thanks TJ I was looking for an update if he had them talking to the BMS.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:07 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1U/2U 48V inverter/charger for LiFePO4 48V strings

 

 

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 6:17 AM Andy Trimmell  wrote:

Can you give us an update on these Peter?

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via 
AF
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2021 7:13 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Cc: Peter Kranz
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1U/2U 48V inverter/charger for LiFePO4 48V strings

 

Pretty excited about these units as a solution.. Bringing one into the 
test lab to exercise, but they have an awesome interface:

 

http://compas.cet-group.eu:8080/

user/password = Basic/1234

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> 
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Re: [AFMUG] 1U/2U 48V inverter/charger for LiFePO4 48V strings

[Andy Trimmell]

Can you give us an update on these Peter?

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2021 7:13 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Cc: Peter Kranz
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1U/2U 48V inverter/charger for LiFePO4 48V strings

 

Pretty excited about these units as a solution.. Bringing one into the test lab 
to exercise, but they have an awesome interface:

 

http://compas.cet-group.eu:8080/

user/password = Basic/1234

 

Peter Kranz
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Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

[Andy Trimmell]

https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-accessories/products/ufiber-ac
tiveethernet

It merely turns the fiber into Ethernet. No need to know anything about
fiber if they have someone come terminate it.  No configuration
required.

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From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

It's an option but I'm trying to minimize my involvement in the support 
department.  The do have an IT guy but I'm not sure how familiar he is 
with fiber.

Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
> Jay,
>
> I would do a fiber run between the buildings.
>
> These are nice on both ends
https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Switching-Capacity-Protection-TEG-S51SFP
/dp/B019IHWSF0/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Teg-s51sfp&qid=1629908139&sr
=8-2
>
> Get some a couple of transceivers and terminated fiber.
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>
> Myakka Communications
> www.Myakka.com
>
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> Wednesday, August 25, 2021, 11:53:27 AM, you wrote:
>
> JW> I've got a client that needs a network line installed from their
house
> JW> to another building but they are on separate power meters.  I
understand
> JW> that running a cable between two different ground points is not
> JW> advisable.  Is there a way around this?  A wireless link isn't an
option
> JW> at this point.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

[Andy Trimmell]

You can find them on ebay.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 10:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

 

I found someone else making real money, about $1k - $2k per month per location.


Too bad they're out of stock for the foreseeable future.



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From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 3:30:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Helium

I thought it was just a bunch of bullshit. So people are getting real money out 
of it?

 

Hrm.

Any way to put a big antenna on it and really pull in some coverage?  ;-)



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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" 
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: "Chuck McCown" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:04:45 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Helium

Any of you doing the Helium network?  Just had a friend stop by wanting some 
advice on antennas.  He has a couple of hot spots up (900 omni) and he says he 
is making $3K/month.  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: us cellular commercial

[Andy Trimmell]

That dog wasn’t tied off properly! Horrible commercial!

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 12:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: us cellular commercial

 

It could be all CGI, green screen, etc. for all we know. They surely didn't 
setup a desk and a fake floor on the tower.



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From: "Adam Moffett" 
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 11:18:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: us cellular commercial

I'm pretty forgiving when they get technicalities wrong on TV and movies. Maybe 
1% of people will understand there's a non-standard safety system in use.  But 
I assume everyone in the USA knows what a ladder is.

 

 

On 5/19/2021 12:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

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From: "Adam Moffett"   
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 11:04:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: us cellular commercial

Looks similar to the fall arrest system they use on rock climbing 
walls. 

.I'm wondering why she climbed on the angle iron when there was a 
ladder right behind her the entire time.

 

On 5/19/2021 11:54 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

This video?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n78nVuwEgBw

She has a ratchet strap on her back the entire time.  Not sure 
if that's 100% kosher, but she is tethered at all times.  

On 5/19/2021 10:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Where's the link

 

On Wed, May 19, 2021, 9:23 AM Steve Jones 
 wrote:

Anybody see this yet? With the lady essentially 
free climbing a tower while her hook is strapped to her chest? 

 

That's going to get some fun Twitter 

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Re: [AFMUG] Whiteboard options

[Andy Trimmell]

 

https://www.amazon.com/Quartet-Whiteboard-Magnetic-Infinity-G7248W/dp/B00HDSX41E

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 12:23 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Whiteboard options

 

I know, I'm a scumbag, not getting with the digital whiteboard program.

 

I'm a whiteboard guy, I need to draw, document, note, etc on something I can 
learn back in my chair and mull over.

 

I'm just finishing a small dedicated home office and looking and my stained 
whiteboard. I've renewed he surface with industrial floor cleaner/polish a lot 
of times. But I think shes dead jim. 

 

I needed a cheap door for the office I built so I got a cheap storm door.

 

Looking at the storm window I think making a glass whiteboard from a storm 
window would be tits. Can get a base drawing then slide the glass up and note 
over the drawing. I cant say how many times I wished I could overlay my 
whiteboard notes.

 

Before I go full ghetto and fasten a storm window to my wall, do they make a 
sliding glass whiteboard that doesnt break the bank?

 

I like the idea of glass because windex works and it never needs the surface 
renewed after something sat on it for 10 months.

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Re: [AFMUG] Windstream Porting / PIN

[Andy Trimmell]

A quick lookup says its on the left hand side of your first paper bill. 
1-866-445-6873 if you can’t find it. 

 

If they’re saying there’s no pin then put one on the account and use that pin.

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 9:56 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windstream Porting / PIN

 

Find a carrier who's willing to be a cowboy and just do it?

 

At least twice Time Warner Cable ported a number without having an LOA or even 
an order.  Both were situations where the customer filled out an inquiry form 
online and someone at TWC was gung-ho to convert that lead.  So I deduce that 
carriers have the ability to port whenever they want, but they don't have the 
authority to port whenever they want.  Find someone who says "screw authority" 
and pushes the button.

 

 

 

 

On 5/4/2021 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops 

 

 

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From: "Louis Arsenault"  
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To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
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Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:17:23 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Windstream Porting / PIN

Hey guys, 

 

Windstream is fighting us every step of the way with moving numbers 
from them.

 

I currently have 2 Customers that Windstream is rejecting the port due 
to incorrect PIN.

When the Customers call windstream and try to get the pin.. Windstream 
states there is no PIN for their acct. 

 

I am not able to find anything on their landline phone bill that 
resembles a PIN.

 

Anyone had any experience with figuring out the magic passphrase the 
customers can tell Windstream to get the PIN or know of another way to get the 
number to port.

 

Thanks,

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options

[Andy Trimmell]

I was taken out of school during spring break of 7th grade by my parents 
because of religious reasons. My mother homeschooled me until graduation in 
1999. I started working at 14 inside the international airport at the time.  I 
picked up most of my social skills from working and find that public school 
people are some of the most anti-social people I’ve met.  I’m sure to some 
people home schooled people are weird because they’re able to talk to almost 
anyone. Most people now think that is weird because it’s too awkward to talk in 
public like we used to back in the day. I don’t stare at my phone when I’m in a 
public place and do my best to chat with people when possible.

 

I’m sure I’m weird to the rest of the world because I don’t curse, do drugs or 
drink alcohol but it’s whatever. I’ve done well.

 

Cheers,

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 2:55 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options

 

I mean I don't think I'm a weirdo either, but there may be evidence to the 
contrary.

On 4/7/2021 2:43 PM, jerry bickle wrote:

Really Adam!   

 

Jerry Bickle

President

RF Design Services, LLC

Cell: 405.650.3366

Fax: 405.330.1310

Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com <mailto:je...@rfdesignservices.com> 

WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com <http://www.rfdesignservices.com/> 

 

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  on 
behalf of Adam Moffett  <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 1:36 PM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>   
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options

 

Exactly what a weirdo would say.

On 4/7/2021 2:32 PM, jerry bickle wrote:

We have homeschooled out son since 7th grade.  He loves it.  
Now he attends a local VoTech engineering academy as well.  He’s very bright.  
Public school wasn’t working for him.  He loves the EPIC Charter School.  I 
highly recommend it.  It’s the fastest growing school in the state and a great 
option.  We’re also a part of a coop of other kids and my son loves that, too.  
He’s not weird.  The other mom’s and kids aren’t weird.  There are many 
positive things for home schooling.  I think with Covid madness and shutdowns, 
a lot of people are homeschooling anyway and finding that it works well for 
them.  

 

Jerry Bickle

President

RF Design Services, LLC

Cell: 405.650.3366

Fax: 405.330.1310

Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com 
<mailto:je...@rfdesignservices.com> 

WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rfdesignservices.com_&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=oZldojrM2-7OE-SOcQyzFlyOFVuvqI9-MKCJpgPtw5o&m=GNXCYCm3nc1YJYxTo3pdZP4xP3iqF48J15RXit12BZo&s=ECpw0GfoMEaBfSQSAfbFSPcL4NK5oLddk6piv_6C7C0&e=>
 

 

 

 

From: AF  
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  on behalf of Steve Jones 
 <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 1:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options

 

I got thumped and choked by a few teachers, I was right at the 
end of the road for teachers being allowed to handle business properly.  Now 
they allow kids like i was to disrupt everybody else. I was messing with this 
one kid at lunch one time because he had the same last name as me. After he had 
had enough, he popped me in the nose, probably broke it, but it resolved the 
situation and he was able to finish his grilled cheese in peace. Teachers saw 
it, even walked by while I mopped my nose. It was simple, I was being a bully, 
he was done being a bully, he addressed it using terms that were clear and we 
both understood. The teachers saw that it had been satisfied and left it alone. 
Today I probably would have been taken to an ER and the school would have paid 
the bill, that poor kid that was just enjoying chili and grilled cheese day 
would be expelled, probably arrested.

We didnt have gloves, we had an open lot across from two of the 
schools, I assume after school theater was a pastime for teachers. They had to 
b

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Ticketing system

[Andy Trimmell]

Faveo Helpdesk

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:49 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Ticketing system

 

https://www.smartertools.com/smartertrack/help-desk-software

 

Back in a previous life we used to host a Smartertrack instance for a
bank that we provided IT support for.  I haven't kept on newer versions
but at the time it was decent and the pricing was good.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 7:53 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Ticketing system

 

Check https://freshdesk.com/

 

 

Gino Villarini 
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 

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From: AF  on behalf of Forrest Christian (List
Account) 
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 1:25 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Ticketing system

Ok, let me try that again, without accidentally sending it mid-stream:

 

I wish Zendesk was a fair bit less expensive, or else I would have
already ended up over there.   Every time I look at Zendesk it seems to
get more and more expensive and although my irritation with my existing
system slowly is getting worse, it seems the zendesk pricing is
increasing at a faster rate than my irritation level.  

 

 

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 11:20 PM Forrest Christian (List Account)
 wrote:

I wish Zendesk was a fair bit less expensive, or else I would
have already ended up over there.   Every time I look at Zendesk it
seems to get more and more expensive and although my irritation with my
existing system slowly is getting worse

 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 8:13 PM Daniel White
 wrote:

We use Zendesk at Atheral... and while their costs
irritate the hell out of me it works well... and the allure at this
point of saving some money doesn't outweigh the benefits of having a
strong ticketing platform that lots of other platforms integrate to.

 

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Forrest Christian (List Account)
 

March 15, 2021 at 18:01

My current "trouble ticketing" system at
packetflux that we use for cust...@packetflux.com continues to irritate
me on an intermittent basis.   Just enough to make me want something
better, but not enough to piss me off enough to actually switch to
something new.

 

Part of  my hesitation is that ticketing systems
seem to be like phone systems - that is, once the newness wears off, you
find all of the horribleness under the surface.   The one we're using
(osticket) seems less horrible than other's we've tried.

 

I'm wondering if there is something out there
that I haven't tried yet which just works.   Is anyone using a general
ticketing system (as opposed to something industry-specific) that
they're really happy with?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: gamestop

[Andy Trimmell]

Best series of questions ever read here in AFMUG. 

 

Thank you.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: gamestop

 

Can someone break this down for me to a window licker level of dumb?

 

If i understand it, hedgefund operators banked on the price going down, so shit 
posters rallied together to drive it up, and on friday the hedgefund operators 
are forced to purchase at the inflated price? Is this the gist?

Now government is trying to step in to protect the hedgefunds from the 
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Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

[Andy Trimmell]

Guess that’s what I get for only reading the last 5 emails. My bad.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 12:31 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

 

First sentence in the thread is "we have a wiki"

On 10/8/2020 12:29 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

Have you checked out making your own wiki site? Wiki.js or xwiki or 
something?

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 12:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

 

All paper, when aged appropriately, becomes irrelevant.  So cleaning 
off the desk is more of an archaeological dig and disposal than an archival 
activity.  

 

From: Steven Kenney 

Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:12 AM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

 

Evil thoughts...  If I had any power would I actually do it?  I doubt 
it.  Tech staff know how to use it but with administrative non technical staff, 
you really do need to train them on software.  Including execs. Especially 
since millennials and kids don't learn cursive anymore, nor proper grammar, 
it's no wonder they can't learn simple programs.  Almost need to make things 
into a game nowadays for them to learn.

 

logo <https://www.wavedirect.net/> 

 <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed>
<https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/>
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/>
<https://twitter.com/wavedirect1><https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect>  

STEVEN KENNEY 
DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON 
E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283
W: www.wavedirect.net

 





From: "Adam Moffett"  <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
To: "af"  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:01:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

 

If it was a file drawer full of paper sketches and little labels on 
each folder would that be too hard for them?  

If simple things are too hard then change the people instead of the 
software.  

 

On 10/8/2020 11:58 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:

OneNote isn't what I'm looking for.  Think of a repo of 
documentation,  howto's faq's articles.  All sorts of content for technical 
documentation.  I'm not looking for something that makes and stores forms and 
files.  Something that can be indexed and easily searched,  and displayed 
nicely for the average user.  I mean I literally have people complaining to me 
that Trello is too difficult to learn on their own.  

 

logo <https://www.wavedirect.net/> 

 <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed>
<https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/>
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/>
<https://twitter.com/wavedirect1><https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect>  

STEVEN KENNEY 
DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON 
E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283
W: www.wavedirect.net

 





From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com
To: "af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:37:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

 

I messed with OneNote.it actually is extremely awesome.  I 
made a tower info template in 1/2 an hour, I could start slapping in data in a 
consistent format very easily.  Dragging in pictures, text, videos, etc is 
straightforward.  

Then I hung up on two thingsOne was where is stuff actually 
stored.  It seemed like if I made something, it's stored in my Microsoft cloud 
account, and if another guy made something it's stored in his Microsoft cloud 
account.  If one of us leaves the data needs to be persistent and stay with the 
company somehow.  There's probably a way to handle that, but I didn't get as 
far as figuring that out. 

2nd thing was versions.  I had Office 2016, another guy had a 
different edition.  There were things I made and shared with him that looked 
all wrong or non-existent when he viewed them.   I think you'd have to commit 
to Office365 so everybody would always be on the same rev.  But then I was 
kinda put off that the issue came up at all.  Suppose I put time into a great 
loo

Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

[Andy Trimmell]

Have you checked out making your own wiki site? Wiki.js or xwiki or something?

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 12:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

 

All paper, when aged appropriately, becomes irrelevant.  So cleaning off the 
desk is more of an archaeological dig and disposal than an archival activity.  

 

From: Steven Kenney 

Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:12 AM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

 

Evil thoughts...  If I had any power would I actually do it?  I doubt it.  Tech 
staff know how to use it but with administrative non technical staff, you 
really do need to train them on software.  Including execs. Especially since 
millennials and kids don't learn cursive anymore, nor proper grammar, it's no 
wonder they can't learn simple programs.  Almost need to make things into a 
game nowadays for them to learn.

 

logo  

 


  

STEVEN KENNEY 
DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON 
E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283
W: www.wavedirect.net

 



From: "Adam Moffett" 
To: "af" 
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:01:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

 

If it was a file drawer full of paper sketches and little labels on each folder 
would that be too hard for them?  

If simple things are too hard then change the people instead of the software.  


 

On 10/8/2020 11:58 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:

OneNote isn't what I'm looking for.  Think of a repo of documentation,  
howto's faq's articles.  All sorts of content for technical documentation.  I'm 
not looking for something that makes and stores forms and files.  Something 
that can be indexed and easily searched,  and displayed nicely for the average 
user.  I mean I literally have people complaining to me that Trello is too 
difficult to learn on their own.  

 

logo  

 


  

STEVEN KENNEY 
DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON 
E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283
W: www.wavedirect.net

 





From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com
To: "af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:37:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Documentation / KB Software

 

I messed with OneNote.it actually is extremely awesome.  I made a 
tower info template in 1/2 an hour, I could start slapping in data in a 
consistent format very easily.  Dragging in pictures, text, videos, etc is 
straightforward.  

Then I hung up on two thingsOne was where is stuff actually stored. 
 It seemed like if I made something, it's stored in my Microsoft cloud account, 
and if another guy made something it's stored in his Microsoft cloud account.  
If one of us leaves the data needs to be persistent and stay with the company 
somehow.  There's probably a way to handle that, but I didn't get as far as 
figuring that out. 

2nd thing was versions.  I had Office 2016, another guy had a different 
edition.  There were things I made and shared with him that looked all wrong or 
non-existent when he viewed them.   I think you'd have to commit to Office365 
so everybody would always be on the same rev.  But then I was kinda put off 
that the issue came up at all.  Suppose I put time into a great looking tower 
site doc with drawings and the whole 9 yards.  Then I don't need to look at it 
again until 2025.  Is it gonna be all screwed up now in the 2025 revision of 
OneNote? 

Convince me it's all gonna be ok and MSFT won't screw me up.

 

On 10/8/2020 10:17 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:

Microsoft is a actually a 4 letter word.  Did you know that?

 

logo  

 


  

STEVEN KENNEY 
DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON 
E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283
W: www.wavedirect.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?

[Andy Trimmell]

The best explanation is just like the water system as well. If theres a
water main break everyone suffers, boil water, low water pressure, etc.
I usually explain the internet is a giant road system when people talk
about lag and such. "well it takes longer to drive to California than to
Chicago so yes its going to take longer" kind of thing.  The "bowling
ball down a garden hose" analogy has been used a few times as well.

Interneting is as hard as adulting.

Andy Trimmell
Business Manager
PDS Connect
317-831-3000



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From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:03 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?

Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with 
multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her 
Internet off.  My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, 
apparently were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her 
internet with all her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I 
was just sharing with my neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of

my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her 
internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the 
problem, because all the other kids still need to do school.  I told her

to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they 
are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all 
day long.

I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was 
saying was hard.  I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect 
sense to me'  So I can't come up with a better way to explain it.  Does 
anyone have a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is 
happening?

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Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

[Andy Trimmell]

Ya that hurts too. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:55 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

 

It's too bad there's no GPS in it though...

 

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:30 AM Steve Jones  wrote:

This thing is pretty cool. Looks like they just robbed the guts of a 3k 
ap  and put it in the e500 housing. If it's got the aux port then you could use 
a force 300 to backhaul into it with just one power supply and cable. This 
would be good for some of our hog farm customers with multiple buildings

 

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 8:03 AM Josh Baird  wrote:

I think the thought is that you backhaul to the ePMP MP3000 
using an ePMP SM connected to an ePMP 3K access point on a tower.

 

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:14 AM Andy Trimmell 
 wrote:

So am I reading this correctly that it’s a backhaul and 
omni antenna in one?

 


https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/epmp/epmp-mp-3000-micropop-fixed-wireless-access-point/

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

[Andy Trimmell]

Too bad. It would have been nice to have it all in one. Having one unit coming 
in and it not look any different on a roof would have been beneficial.  I did 
think the new mu-mimo antenna looked promising though.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:29 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

 

This thing is pretty cool. Looks like they just robbed the guts of a 3k ap  and 
put it in the e500 housing. If it's got the aux port then you could use a force 
300 to backhaul into it with just one power supply and cable. This would be 
good for some of our hog farm customers with multiple buildings

 

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 8:03 AM Josh Baird  wrote:

I think the thought is that you backhaul to the ePMP MP3000 using an 
ePMP SM connected to an ePMP 3K access point on a tower.

 

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:14 AM Andy Trimmell 
 wrote:

So am I reading this correctly that it’s a backhaul and omni 
antenna in one?

 


https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/epmp/epmp-mp-3000-micropop-fixed-wireless-access-point/

 

 

    Andy Trimmell

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[AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

[Andy Trimmell]

So am I reading this correctly that it's a backhaul and omni antenna in
one?

 

https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/epmp/epmp-mp-3000-micropop-fixe
d-wireless-access-point/
<https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/epmp/epmp-mp-3000-micropop-fix
ed-wireless-access-point/> 

 

 

Andy Trimmell

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[AFMUG] ePMP 3000

[Andy Trimmell]

I've got a ePMP 3000L on a KP omni antenna and it doesn't have a cover
for it. Does it require the hood like on a sector antenna?

 

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[AFMUG] PTP820S

[Andy Trimmell]

So I'm configuring these for the first time. I ran the configuration
wizard but I'm seeing that the power dbm is set to a max of 16 but my
license says I can go to 22. Anyone had this happen or am I confused? I
haven't found any answers on the website to what I'm looking for.

 

 

 

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[AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Andy Trimmell]

Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and not in the 5ghz frequency? Trying to
get 300/300

 

Andy Trimmell

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[AFMUG] 900 mhz PMP100 (LASTCALL)

[Andy Trimmell]

Going in the trash Monday morning.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 10:25 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 900 mhz PMP100

 

Anyone have any use for a bunch of 900 clients units along with
antennas?  We're moving and they're either getting sent somewhere or I'm
throwing them away. I remembered at one point Cambium was taking some
for overseas projects to get internet to grief stricken areas.  Anyone?

 

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[AFMUG] PMP320

[Andy Trimmell]

Selling a lot of PMP320 CPEs to a good home. Qty 40 I believe. Send me
offlist. Buyer pays shipping.

 

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[AFMUG] 900 mhz PMP100

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone have any use for a bunch of 900 clients units along with
antennas?  We're moving and they're either getting sent somewhere or I'm
throwing them away. I remembered at one point Cambium was taking some
for overseas projects to get internet to grief stricken areas.  Anyone?

 

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[AFMUG] OT: House repeater contract

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone have a template for a house repeater contract? Hit me offlist

 

atrimmell @ precisionds.com

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OTA DVR etc

[Andy Trimmell]

YoutubeTV comes with cloud dvr as well. No need for another device to record 
and the space is unlimited.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTA DVR etc

 

I bought the airTV and am very pleased with it.  No monthly fees.  If you want 
the DVR function you have to use it with the Sling App but they have a free 
Sling version.  Sling version has a much better on screen guide.  

 

It has its own airTV app that does everything but DVR.  

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 6:40 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: [AFMUG] OTA DVR etc

 

So what is the borg's conciseness on the best OTA tv interface that can do DVR, 
etc? 

 

I just realized I haven't turned on my DirecTV in weeks and it's 160mrc ! 

 

I was thinking of getting an IPTV solution + OTA antenna, needs to know the 
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000 backwards compatibility

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Thank you for the info. I completely skipped over the release notes because it 
said PTP 550. I guess I should have opened it and read it.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 1:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000 backwards compatibility

 

It's been promoted to the current branch as "ePMP System Release 4.3.2.1 / 
15-May-19" - no longer in the beta branch. 

 

ePMP-GPS_Synced-v4.3.2.1.tar.gz, ePMP-NonGPS_Synced-v4.3.2.1.tar.gz is the 
firmware for the EPMP1000/2000 radios, that will allow EPMP AC units to connect 
to EPMP1000/2000 APs. (forward compatibility) 

 

For the EPMP3000 AP ePMP-AC-v4.3.2.1.img allows backwards compatibility 
(clients must be running the matching firmware above to connect to a 3K AP)

 

All EPMP1k/2k use .tar.gz for the packaging, all EPMP3k will use .IMG 

 

For the time being, no QOS/MIR exists in this firmware, so if you consider that 
not production ready like me, I see what your saying. 

 

The descriptions don't make this very clear.

 

 

 

 

 

Joe

 

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 11:54 AM Andy Trimmell  
wrote:

Stable? You mean stable beta? I meant production firmware if that’s 
what you meant. I don’t see anywhere in production firmware that there’s a 4.x 
firmware for 1000/2000 models.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000 backwards compatibility

 

Stable release of this was a few weeks ago. Download the 2nd stable 
version released 2 days ago and it will work.

 

Correct on being able to swap out a 1/2k AP for a 3k and all existing 
epmp radios as well as elevate sm's will connect. They need to be updated to 
latest version first though or they won't connect. 

 

Upgrading only the AP without any sm's yields a 10% boost in throughput 
as well as some other rf gains of at least 3db on the uplink. Latency also is 
improved by 50%. This is all without swapping a single sm.

 

To realize mu-mimo benefits, I'd only swap your highest usage customers 
so you can start realizing the 100% increase in capacity. That's our plan at 
least. No point in swapping low GB usage subs to force 300 gear if they won't 
see any benefit. 

 

On Fri, May 17, 2019, 8:58 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

I haven't been following any of the 3000 Hype.  Can you drop an 
EPMP3000 AP in place of an EPMP1000AP and not have to change any customer 
radios?  Do you get any benefits without the Force300 SM?  

On 5/17/2019 8:49 AM, canopy--- via AF wrote:

It works now. Download the latest firmware.

 

    On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:05 AM Andy Trimmell 
 wrote:

So when is this coming? Anyone have any news on 
this? 

 

Andy Trimmell

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000 backwards compatibility

[Andy Trimmell]

Thanks Steve

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 2:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000 backwards compatibility

 

the AP swap is an antenna swap too

 

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:16 PM Joe Novak  wrote:

It's been promoted to the current branch as "ePMP System Release 
4.3.2.1 / 15-May-19" - no longer in the beta branch. 

 

ePMP-GPS_Synced-v4.3.2.1.tar.gz, ePMP-NonGPS_Synced-v4.3.2.1.tar.gz is 
the firmware for the EPMP1000/2000 radios, that will allow EPMP AC units to 
connect to EPMP1000/2000 APs. (forward compatibility) 

 

For the EPMP3000 AP ePMP-AC-v4.3.2.1.img allows backwards compatibility 
(clients must be running the matching firmware above to connect to a 3K AP)

 

All EPMP1k/2k use .tar.gz for the packaging, all EPMP3k will use .IMG 

 

For the time being, no QOS/MIR exists in this firmware, so if you 
consider that not production ready like me, I see what your saying. 

 

The descriptions don't make this very clear.

 

 

 

 

 

Joe

 

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 11:54 AM Andy Trimmell 
 wrote:

Stable? You mean stable beta? I meant production firmware if 
that’s what you meant. I don’t see anywhere in production firmware that there’s 
a 4.x firmware for 1000/2000 models.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin 
Steffl
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000 backwards compatibility

 

Stable release of this was a few weeks ago. Download the 2nd 
stable version released 2 days ago and it will work.

 

Correct on being able to swap out a 1/2k AP for a 3k and all 
existing epmp radios as well as elevate sm's will connect. They need to be 
updated to latest version first though or they won't connect. 

 

Upgrading only the AP without any sm's yields a 10% boost in 
throughput as well as some other rf gains of at least 3db on the uplink. 
Latency also is improved by 50%. This is all without swapping a single sm.

 

To realize mu-mimo benefits, I'd only swap your highest usage 
customers so you can start realizing the 100% increase in capacity. That's our 
plan at least. No point in swapping low GB usage subs to force 300 gear if they 
won't see any benefit. 

 

On Fri, May 17, 2019, 8:58 AM Nate Burke  
wrote:

I haven't been following any of the 3000 Hype.  Can you 
drop an EPMP3000 AP in place of an EPMP1000AP and not have to change any 
customer radios?  Do you get any benefits without the Force300 SM?  

On 5/17/2019 8:49 AM, canopy--- via AF wrote:

It works now. Download the latest firmware.

 

    On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:05 AM Andy Trimmell 
 wrote:

So when is this coming? Anyone have any 
news on this? 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000 backwards compatibility

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Stable? You mean stable beta? I meant production firmware if that’s what you 
meant. I don’t see anywhere in production firmware that there’s a 4.x firmware 
for 1000/2000 models.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000 backwards compatibility

 

Stable release of this was a few weeks ago. Download the 2nd stable version 
released 2 days ago and it will work.

 

Correct on being able to swap out a 1/2k AP for a 3k and all existing epmp 
radios as well as elevate sm's will connect. They need to be updated to latest 
version first though or they won't connect. 

 

Upgrading only the AP without any sm's yields a 10% boost in throughput as well 
as some other rf gains of at least 3db on the uplink. Latency also is improved 
by 50%. This is all without swapping a single sm.

 

To realize mu-mimo benefits, I'd only swap your highest usage customers so you 
can start realizing the 100% increase in capacity. That's our plan at least. No 
point in swapping low GB usage subs to force 300 gear if they won't see any 
benefit. 

 

On Fri, May 17, 2019, 8:58 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

I haven't been following any of the 3000 Hype.  Can you drop an 
EPMP3000 AP in place of an EPMP1000AP and not have to change any customer 
radios?  Do you get any benefits without the Force300 SM?  

On 5/17/2019 8:49 AM, canopy--- via AF wrote:

It works now. Download the latest firmware.

 

    On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:05 AM Andy Trimmell 
 wrote:

So when is this coming? Anyone have any news on this? 

 

    Andy Trimmell

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[AFMUG] ePMP 3000 backwards compatibility

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So when is this coming? Anyone have any news on this? 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[Andy Trimmell]

Try one of these. We’ve used them before. 
https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

 

Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.  

Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.

My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without 
subscription.  

 

From: Joe Novak 

Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

 

Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun 
(https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is a bit 
high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device that 
supports it.  Also see: 
https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
 - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version 
available to be able to setup/manage recordings).

 

There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for me.

 

 

Joe

 

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM  wrote:

Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to 
Roku.  Is there such a beast?

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Re: [AFMUG] Friday Thoughts

[Andy Trimmell]

I just don’t see why something like this takes this long to accomplish. I could 
have bought and shipped an actual AP to my office faster than getting a license 
key. I see where you guys have circumvented the wait time but should we really 
have to do that? I definitely like using the Lite APs because like you some of 
them I won’t ever have to upgrade but right now #11 is sitting there waiting as 
patient as a customer can. This is also the first Lite AP I’ve ever had to 
upgrade. I wasn’t aware the process took this long in 2019.

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:52 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Thoughts

 

If you use Lite APs, you need to just make sure you always have at least one 
license key stored, and get new one ordered as soon as you use it.

 

It does cost a little bit more to use Lite APs and then upgrade them, but in a 
lot of cases we never have to upgrade them... there's also the advantage that 
if the AP dies after it's out of warranty, you can get Cambium to transfer the 
license to a new Lite AP.

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:41 AM Josh Luthman  wrote:

Because the work is done in advance.

 

As far as ePMP I stock Lite radios on the shelf and 1 full in the van 
for quick repairs.  I have license keys stored on my account with a lite to 
full key so I can do that in a pinch.  It's kind of the same money but I have 
lite radios I can replace and I don't need to put up full ones in any event.


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:48 AM Andy Trimmell 
 wrote:

I have no idea why it takes so long to get a license key when I 
can literally get an actual AP here overnight with ground shipping. I should 
have just bought the big boy version. In this day and age you’d think it was 
almost instant. 

 

/rant off

     

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[AFMUG] Friday Thoughts

[Andy Trimmell]

I have no idea why it takes so long to get a license key when I can
literally get an actual AP here overnight with ground shipping. I should
have just bought the big boy version. In this day and age you'd think it
was almost instant. 

 

/rant off

 

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Re: [AFMUG] YouTube and such

[Andy Trimmell]

Looks informative. Your overhead camera is very blurry in comparison to your 
front camera. It might help if you got a big piece of black cloth to put over 
top of your wood table. Should help with the camera focusing on the wood grain 
instead of the peripherals.  A few times your microphone peaked and distorted. 

 

I did like seeing the ePMP 3000 next to a person. It looks huge in comparison 
to the rest of their products.

 

Thanks for making the video!

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Royer
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] YouTube and such

 

So I have some new videos out there of some unboxing of Cambium gear.  I’d love 
to get some feedback, and also be curious if anyone in the industry would like 
to see other types of videos.  One idea I had was starting to document tower 
work and install work for infrastructure to start sharing basic stuff.  Things 
like cadwelding our ground, installing fiber to backhauls, mounting options on 
different structures, etc.  Below is a link to my latest but feel free to check 
out the channel for others.  There is a video of 450M 3Ghz. installed on a 
tower on the channel too.

 

https://youtu.be/rz4qVMHPpHA

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

[Andy Trimmell]

We just the splice the ends on to it. 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 9:00 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

 

Andy,

 

Mind sharing exactly what tools you use to terminate ends on this cable?  We 
have always ordered pre-made cables, but we're interested in starting to 
terminate our own.  We have a spool of this same cable just sitting there doing 
nothing at the moment.

 

Thanks,

 

Josh

 

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 8:46 AM Andy Trimmell  wrote:


https://www.balticnetworks.com/shireen-sm-fiber-power-triamese-cable-1000ft-spool.html

This is what we’ve been using.

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:52 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

 

I got some custom assemblies from Fiber Instrument Sales.  It was a 
"core locked" fiber, which basically means the glass is buried in an a lot of 
plastic.  We only got one LC duplex on each end, but I bet they could have done 
2.

The lead time wasn't terribly long.

On 12/20/2018 3:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What are people using for Fiber up the tower?   

 

We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each 
end.  140 foot lengths.   They will be run up inside a monopole.

 

Are you using armored?  Outdoor?  What?

 

Where are people getting theirs made?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

[Andy Trimmell]

https://www.balticnetworks.com/shireen-sm-fiber-power-triamese-cable-100
0ft-spool.html

This is what we've been using.

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:52 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

 

I got some custom assemblies from Fiber Instrument Sales.  It was a
"core locked" fiber, which basically means the glass is buried in an a
lot of plastic.  We only got one LC duplex on each end, but I bet they
could have done 2.

The lead time wasn't terribly long.



On 12/20/2018 3:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What are people using for Fiber up the tower?   

 

We are looking for Single mode 4 strand - 2 LC Duplex at each
end.  140 foot lengths.   They will be run up inside a monopole.

 

Are you using armored?  Outdoor?  What?

 

Where are people getting theirs made?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 question

[Andy Trimmell]

Ya if you don’t touch them they come with Beta software on them from 2 years 
ago.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 11:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 question

 

Jaime, did you note what firmware version they had? Latest for most of the 
non-.AC chipset hardware is 3.5.2.

 

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:13 PM Jaime Solorza  
wrote:

Installed a pair of Force 180s today for short ptp link.   Noticed they 
don't have any DFS channels like their other radios.  Is there a firmware 
upgrade for them? Thanks, Jaime

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Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

[Andy Trimmell]

I've exclusively went to https://www.saginawcontrol.com/ for all my
enclosures. They're extremely cheaper than any place I've shopped. 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Royer
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Enclosures

 

Hey WispWorld,

 

What enclosures are you using at tower sites?  The ones we used shot way
up in price, so shopping around.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] VoIP Systems

[Andy Trimmell]

Ive put in a couple of the Grandstream appliances after using PBX in a flash 
for years. Grandstream is a lot easier to maintain.



Andy Trimmell
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From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:57 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] VoIP Systems

I haven't kept up on this for the past 3 years at least.

Is there a small business VoIP appliance that people like?

What about Asterisk+FreePBX distributions like PBX-in-a-Flash or 
Asterisk@Home?  They kept having severe security issues with FreePBX, so 
I'd be a little shy about going down that road, but if it's improved in 
the past few years I'd try it again.  My other problem with FreePBX is 
that it made some hard things very easy and some easy things very hard 
(compared to editing asterisk config files).   I'm not sure it actually 
saved me much time over using vanilla Asterisk.

-Adam


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Re: [AFMUG] DIA pricing

[Andy Trimmell]

DIA pricing has a lot of variables. HE isn’t going to bring 10G fiber to the 
middle of nowhere but they are available in almost all of the big datacenters. 
So don’t expect getting $1k/mo 10G 20 miles away from a major city where 
there’s only 1-2 options available.

 

You can attempt to hand them a quote from an entirely different location if you 
want but don’t expect them to listen. I would measure how much you’re paying a 
month (ex, $3k/mo) getting a loan and getting your own fiber to the closest 
datacenter.  

 

Andy Trimmell

Systems Engineer

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA pricing

 

HE is at $1,000 month for 10 Gig circuit on 5-year term.

 

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 10:10 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

I just got quoted 3x that from Century Link.  Century Link's quote is 
half of what we're paying now.

On 9/24/2018 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Latest circuit I am working on obtaining from Cogent is $220 
per gig.  I can get it as low as $150 if I take a 100G circuit.  

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 beamforming antenna

[Andy Trimmell]

Well anyone that could help me hit me offlist. 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 12:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2000 beamforming antenna

 

Lol, perhaps if you catch them on a bad day...  :-)

 

Jeff Broadwick

CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@cticonnect.com


On Jul 3, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

Is that the kinder, gentler RTFM?

 

bp

 

On 7/3/2018 8:44 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:

Sometimes the RTM can help with things like that.

Jeff Broadwick 

CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@cticonnect.com


On Jul 3, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

You talk to anyone at Cambium?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Andy Trimmell 
 wrote:

Anyone from Cambium out there have some of the pigtails 
for this antenna? I’ve been unable to find this exact cable in the custom 
market. I need to replace a couple that pulled out of the connector.

 

Andy Trimmell

Systems Engineer

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 


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[AFMUG] ePMP 2000 beamforming antenna

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone from Cambium out there have some of the pigtails for this
antenna? I've been unable to find this exact cable in the custom market.
I need to replace a couple that pulled out of the connector.

 

Andy Trimmell

Systems Engineer

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

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[AFMUG] Used equipment?

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone interested in some PMP320 cpe's or Mikrotik Cpe's? I got a bunch
I need to sell. They're all removed in working order. The PMP320 subs
are factory defaulted.

 

Andy Trimmell

Systems Engineer

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

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