Re: [AFMUG] powerinjector 10/100 pinout guide

[Steve Jones]

Ended up being a bad board, was odd to cause the first site monitor was bad
too, packetflux gear is never doa, ill get them on the bench and figure out
what i broke to cause that

On Jul 14, 2017 7:25 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> That board must be a really early one.  I think there was about 100 of
> each type which went out without jumper labeling for some reason I forget
> now
>
> I sure don't see anything wrong with those jumpers.   Are you getting
> power lights on the injector?  Do you have a base unit to look and verify
> that the power is on on all of those ports.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> Pwr 1 48
>> Pwr 2 24
>> 1 320
>> 2 320
>> 3 ubnt
>> 4 fsk
>> Is this correct? The fsk won't power. But I think I have a syncpipe
>> parasitic up there
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2017 5:21 PM, "George Skorup" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It's printed on the board towards the left. Both the 10/100 and GigE
>> versions have four jumpers per port. 10/100 jumpers are pins 4, 5, 7 & 8
>> individually for the case of split-pair power like the 320 and 430. The
>> GigE version is pairs (1&2/3&6/4&5/7&8) and will most definitely not do
>> split-pair power without re-wiring the RJ45 at one end so that two wrongs
>> make a right.
>>
>> Yes, I was about 1/2 a second away from screwing up once. Set the
>> jumpers, put everything back together. Port 1 was set for 4-pair power and
>> the 48VDC bus. A 450i AP was going there. Everything got upside down and I
>> almost plugged a regular 450AP into port #1 until I realized my mistake
>> before it was too late.
>>
>>
>> On 7/14/2017 4:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> packetflux poerinjector plus sync pinout for the jumpers. I have the
>> document of PoE Injector Diagrams, but it doesn't seem right because by
>> default these power cambium, but that not the jumper config. Pretty sure
>> its the wrong document, and with mixing 24 and 48 with three different
>> radio systems id prefer it be correct
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Colin Stanners 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's my version 0.7 from 2012, I need to update it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Anybody have a current one, I don't think mine us, I'm using both
 inputs for 3 different kinds of radios and I am not even sure on which way
 to orient the board for the pins. I have 2 320s, a fsk 900, and a ubnt 24v
 radio

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor

[Andreas Wiatowski]

I sent a message off list

Cheers,
 
Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com 
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
 
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On 2017-07-14, 9:18 PM, "Af on behalf of Dev"  wrote:

Thanks Andreas,

Rough cost or how does their pricing break down? How hard / expensive is 
the setup?

> We implemented Corero.  It works as advertised, all our traffic is 
scrubbed on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at our > > main 
core, 2 separate 10Gbps feeds.  We also have a secondary site with 10Gbps and 
it has a corero as well.  It has allowed us to > sleep at night!

> Cheers,

> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

> Silo Wireless Inc.

> 1-866-727-4138 x-600

> http://www.silowireless.com 
 
>  Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor

[Dev]

Thanks Andreas,

Rough cost or how does their pricing break down? How hard / expensive is the 
setup?

> We implemented Corero.  It works as advertised, all our traffic is scrubbed 
> on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at our > > main core, 2 
> separate 10Gbps feeds.  We also have a secondary site with 10Gbps and it has 
> a corero as well.  It has allowed us to > sleep at night!

> Cheers,

> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

> Silo Wireless Inc.

> 1-866-727-4138 x-600

> http://www.silowireless.com 
 
>  Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Re: [AFMUG] powerinjector 10/100 pinout guide

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

That board must be a really early one.  I think there was about 100 of each
type which went out without jumper labeling for some reason I forget now

I sure don't see anything wrong with those jumpers.   Are you getting power
lights on the injector?  Do you have a base unit to look and verify that
the power is on on all of those ports.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Pwr 1 48
> Pwr 2 24
> 1 320
> 2 320
> 3 ubnt
> 4 fsk
> Is this correct? The fsk won't power. But I think I have a syncpipe
> parasitic up there
>
> On Jul 14, 2017 5:21 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
> It's printed on the board towards the left. Both the 10/100 and GigE
> versions have four jumpers per port. 10/100 jumpers are pins 4, 5, 7 & 8
> individually for the case of split-pair power like the 320 and 430. The
> GigE version is pairs (1&2/3&6/4&5/7&8) and will most definitely not do
> split-pair power without re-wiring the RJ45 at one end so that two wrongs
> make a right.
>
> Yes, I was about 1/2 a second away from screwing up once. Set the jumpers,
> put everything back together. Port 1 was set for 4-pair power and the 48VDC
> bus. A 450i AP was going there. Everything got upside down and I almost
> plugged a regular 450AP into port #1 until I realized my mistake before it
> was too late.
>
>
> On 7/14/2017 4:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> packetflux poerinjector plus sync pinout for the jumpers. I have the
> document of PoE Injector Diagrams, but it doesn't seem right because by
> default these power cambium, but that not the jumper config. Pretty sure
> its the wrong document, and with mixing 24 and 48 with three different
> radio systems id prefer it be correct
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's my version 0.7 from 2012, I need to update it.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody have a current one, I don't think mine us, I'm using both inputs
>>> for 3 different kinds of radios and I am not even sure on which way to
>>> orient the board for the pins. I have 2 320s, a fsk 900, and a ubnt 24v
>>> radio
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] powerinjector 10/100 pinout guide

[George Skorup]

So... the jumper positions aren't printed on that board. I thought I 
remembered seeing that on the first couple of the GigE version we 
bought. I know they have it now though.


On 7/14/2017 6:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
No dice with this jumper either on 320. I'm going to start lighting 
fires here in a minute


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:


Pwr 1 48
Pwr 2 24
1 320
2 320
3 ubnt
4 fsk
Is this correct? The fsk won't power. But I think I have a
syncpipe parasitic up there

On Jul 14, 2017 5:21 PM, "George Skorup" > wrote:

It's printed on the board towards the left. Both the 10/100
and GigE versions have four jumpers per port. 10/100 jumpers
are pins 4, 5, 7 & 8 individually for the case of split-pair
power like the 320 and 430. The GigE version is pairs
(1&2/3&6/4&5/7&8) and will most definitely not do split-pair
power without re-wiring the RJ45 at one end so that two wrongs
make a right.

Yes, I was about 1/2 a second away from screwing up once. Set
the jumpers, put everything back together. Port 1 was set for
4-pair power and the 48VDC bus. A 450i AP was going there.
Everything got upside down and I almost plugged a regular
450AP into port #1 until I realized my mistake before it was
too late.


On 7/14/2017 4:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

packetflux poerinjector plus sync pinout for the jumpers. I
have the document of PoE Injector Diagrams, but it doesn't
seem right because by default these power cambium, but that
not the jumper config. Pretty sure its the wrong document,
and with mixing 24 and 48 with three different radio systems
id prefer it be correct

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Colin Stanners
> wrote:

Here's my version 0.7 from 2012, I need to update it.


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Steve Jones
> wrote:

Anybody have a current one, I don't think mine us,
I'm using both inputs for 3 different kinds of radios
and I am not even sure on which way to orient the
board for the pins. I have 2 320s, a fsk 900, and a
ubnt 24v radio

Re: [AFMUG] powerinjector 10/100 pinout guide

[Steve Jones]

No dice with this jumper either on 320. I'm going to start lighting fires
here in a minute

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Pwr 1 48
> Pwr 2 24
> 1 320
> 2 320
> 3 ubnt
> 4 fsk
> Is this correct? The fsk won't power. But I think I have a syncpipe
> parasitic up there
>
> On Jul 14, 2017 5:21 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
> It's printed on the board towards the left. Both the 10/100 and GigE
> versions have four jumpers per port. 10/100 jumpers are pins 4, 5, 7 & 8
> individually for the case of split-pair power like the 320 and 430. The
> GigE version is pairs (1&2/3&6/4&5/7&8) and will most definitely not do
> split-pair power without re-wiring the RJ45 at one end so that two wrongs
> make a right.
>
> Yes, I was about 1/2 a second away from screwing up once. Set the jumpers,
> put everything back together. Port 1 was set for 4-pair power and the 48VDC
> bus. A 450i AP was going there. Everything got upside down and I almost
> plugged a regular 450AP into port #1 until I realized my mistake before it
> was too late.
>
>
> On 7/14/2017 4:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> packetflux poerinjector plus sync pinout for the jumpers. I have the
> document of PoE Injector Diagrams, but it doesn't seem right because by
> default these power cambium, but that not the jumper config. Pretty sure
> its the wrong document, and with mixing 24 and 48 with three different
> radio systems id prefer it be correct
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's my version 0.7 from 2012, I need to update it.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody have a current one, I don't think mine us, I'm using both inputs
>>> for 3 different kinds of radios and I am not even sure on which way to
>>> orient the board for the pins. I have 2 320s, a fsk 900, and a ubnt 24v
>>> radio
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] powerinjector 10/100 pinout guide

[George Skorup]

It's printed on the board towards the left. Both the 10/100 and GigE 
versions have four jumpers per port. 10/100 jumpers are pins 4, 5, 7 & 8 
individually for the case of split-pair power like the 320 and 430. The 
GigE version is pairs (1&2/3&6/4&5/7&8) and will most definitely not do 
split-pair power without re-wiring the RJ45 at one end so that two 
wrongs make a right.


Yes, I was about 1/2 a second away from screwing up once. Set the 
jumpers, put everything back together. Port 1 was set for 4-pair power 
and the 48VDC bus. A 450i AP was going there. Everything got upside down 
and I almost plugged a regular 450AP into port #1 until I realized my 
mistake before it was too late.


On 7/14/2017 4:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
packetflux poerinjector plus sync pinout for the jumpers. I have the 
document of PoE Injector Diagrams, but it doesn't seem right because 
by default these power cambium, but that not the jumper config. Pretty 
sure its the wrong document, and with mixing 24 and 48 with three 
different radio systems id prefer it be correct


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Colin Stanners > wrote:


Here's my version 0.7 from 2012, I need to update it.


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Steve Jones
> wrote:

Anybody have a current one, I don't think mine us, I'm using
both inputs for 3 different kinds of radios and I am not even
sure on which way to orient the board for the pins. I have 2
320s, a fsk 900, and a ubnt 24v radio

Re: [AFMUG] powerinjector 10/100 pinout guide

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I responded to your ticket with the correct info.

I need to follow up with staff here and find out what happened to getting
the appropriate document for this particular item up on the web.

-forrest

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> packetflux poerinjector plus sync pinout for the jumpers. I have the
> document of PoE Injector Diagrams, but it doesn't seem right because by
> default these power cambium, but that not the jumper config. Pretty sure
> its the wrong document, and with mixing 24 and 48 with three different
> radio systems id prefer it be correct
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's my version 0.7 from 2012, I need to update it.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody have a current one, I don't think mine us, I'm using both inputs
>>> for 3 different kinds of radios and I am not even sure on which way to
>>> orient the board for the pins. I have 2 320s, a fsk 900, and a ubnt 24v
>>> radio
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] powerinjector 10/100 pinout guide

[Steve Jones]

packetflux poerinjector plus sync pinout for the jumpers. I have the
document of PoE Injector Diagrams, but it doesn't seem right because by
default these power cambium, but that not the jumper config. Pretty sure
its the wrong document, and with mixing 24 and 48 with three different
radio systems id prefer it be correct

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Here's my version 0.7 from 2012, I need to update it.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> Anybody have a current one, I don't think mine us, I'm using both inputs
>> for 3 different kinds of radios and I am not even sure on which way to
>> orient the board for the pins. I have 2 320s, a fsk 900, and a ubnt 24v
>> radio
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Mike Hammett]

OOoh, I just thought of a good one... BGP next hops. Those would be good ones 
to get into a black list. :-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Travis Johnson"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 4:33:29 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor? 

We also kept a "whitelist" of IP addresses that could not be blocked. What do 
you expect for $0 and $0 per month? :) 

Travis 



On 7/14/2017 3:21 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Until someone starts spoofing Google's authoritative DNS servers or root DNS 
servers or 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Travis Johnson"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 4:19:05 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor? 

Hey, 

Back in the day (4 years ago), we used Mikrotik for our main core 
routers. We would allocate a single IP address from each /24 (randomly 
selected) and then we created a rule that any outside IP address that 
even "touched" that IP was added to our Blackhole address list and 
dropped on the incoming interfaces. 

This was a cheap, easy way to stop many, many attacks. Our blackhole 
list often contained 50,000+ IP addresses. 

Travis 


On 7/14/2017 10:59 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: 
> I agree. It solves many problems. We had 1 this year… had to drop a /24 for 
> about 5 minutes. The other option is to BGP cloud scrub… much bigger $. 
> 
> What we have found is that dealing with even small attacks or identified 
> attacks has slowed the frequency and intensity. Regardless, if you’re a 
> target, you’re going to get hurt in today’s day and age. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO 
> Silo Wireless Inc. 
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 
> http://www.silowireless.com  
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV 
> 
> _ 
> The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely 
> for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged 
> information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not the 
> intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message has 
> been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply 
> email and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are not the 
> intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, 
> copying, or storage of this message or its attachments is strictly 
> prohibited. 
> 
> 
> On 2017-07-14, 12:44 PM, "Af on behalf of Seth Mattinen" 
>  wrote: 
> 
> On 7/14/17 09:04, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: 
> > We implemented Corero. It works as advertised, all our traffic is 
> > scrubbed on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at our main 
> > core, 2 separate 10Gbps feeds. We also have a secondary site with 
> > 10Gbps and it has a corero as well. It has allowed us to sleep at night! 
> > 
> 
> 
> I don't see how this would help if an attacker tries to shove 40Gbps 
> down 2x10GbE pipes. 
> 
> ~Seth 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] powerinjector 10/100 pinout guide

[Colin Stanners]

Here's my version 0.7 from 2012, I need to update it.


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Anybody have a current one, I don't think mine us, I'm using both inputs
> for 3 different kinds of radios and I am not even sure on which way to
> orient the board for the pins. I have 2 320s, a fsk 900, and a ubnt 24v
> radio
>

[AFMUG] powerinjector 10/100 pinout guide

[Steve Jones]

Anybody have a current one, I don't think mine us, I'm using both inputs
for 3 different kinds of radios and I am not even sure on which way to
orient the board for the pins. I have 2 320s, a fsk 900, and a ubnt 24v
radio

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Travis Johnson]

We also kept a "whitelist" of IP addresses that could not be blocked. 
What do you expect for $0 and $0 per month? :)


Travis


On 7/14/2017 3:21 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Until someone starts spoofing Google's authoritative DNS servers or 
root DNS servers or




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Travis Johnson" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, July 14, 2017 4:19:05 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

Hey,

Back in the day (4 years ago), we used Mikrotik for our main core
routers. We would allocate a single IP address from each /24 (randomly
selected) and then we created a rule that any outside IP address that
even "touched" that IP was added to our Blackhole address list and
dropped on the incoming interfaces.

This was a cheap, easy way to stop many, many attacks. Our blackhole
list often contained 50,000+ IP addresses.

Travis


On 7/14/2017 10:59 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:
> I agree.  It solves many problems.  We had 1 this year… had to drop 
a /24 for about 5 minutes.  The other option is to BGP cloud scrub… 
much bigger $.

>
> What we have found is that dealing with even small attacks or 
identified attacks has slowed the frequency and intensity. 
 Regardless, if you’re a target, you’re going to get hurt in today’s 
day and age.

>
> Cheers,
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
> Silo Wireless Inc.
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600
> http://www.silowireless.com 
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
> _
> The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended 
solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or 
privileged information and may be legally protected from disclosure. 
If you are not the intended recipient of this message or their agent, 
or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please 
immediately alert the sender by reply email and then delete this 
message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, 
you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying, or 
storage of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited.

>
>
> On 2017-07-14, 12:44 PM, "Af on behalf of Seth Mattinen" 
 wrote:

>
>  On 7/14/17 09:04, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:
>  > We implemented Corero.  It works as advertised, all our 
traffic is
>  > scrubbed on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at 
our main
>  > core, 2 separate 10Gbps feeds.  We also have a secondary site 
with
>  > 10Gbps and it has a corero as well.  It has allowed us to 
sleep at night!

>  >
>
>
>  I don't see how this would help if an attacker tries to shove 
40Gbps

>  down 2x10GbE pipes.
>
>  ~Seth
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Mike Hammett]

Until someone starts spoofing Google's authoritative DNS servers or root DNS 
servers or 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Travis Johnson"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 4:19:05 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor? 

Hey, 

Back in the day (4 years ago), we used Mikrotik for our main core 
routers. We would allocate a single IP address from each /24 (randomly 
selected) and then we created a rule that any outside IP address that 
even "touched" that IP was added to our Blackhole address list and 
dropped on the incoming interfaces. 

This was a cheap, easy way to stop many, many attacks. Our blackhole 
list often contained 50,000+ IP addresses. 

Travis 


On 7/14/2017 10:59 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: 
> I agree. It solves many problems. We had 1 this year… had to drop a /24 for 
> about 5 minutes. The other option is to BGP cloud scrub… much bigger $$. 
> 
> What we have found is that dealing with even small attacks or identified 
> attacks has slowed the frequency and intensity. Regardless, if you’re a 
> target, you’re going to get hurt in today’s day and age. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO 
> Silo Wireless Inc. 
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 
> http://www.silowireless.com  
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV 
> 
> _ 
> The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely 
> for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged 
> information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not the 
> intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message has 
> been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply 
> email and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are not the 
> intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, 
> copying, or storage of this message or its attachments is strictly 
> prohibited. 
> 
> 
> On 2017-07-14, 12:44 PM, "Af on behalf of Seth Mattinen" 
>  wrote: 
> 
> On 7/14/17 09:04, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: 
> > We implemented Corero. It works as advertised, all our traffic is 
> > scrubbed on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at our main 
> > core, 2 separate 10Gbps feeds. We also have a secondary site with 
> > 10Gbps and it has a corero as well. It has allowed us to sleep at night! 
> > 
> 
> 
> I don't see how this would help if an attacker tries to shove 40Gbps 
> down 2x10GbE pipes. 
> 
> ~Seth 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Travis Johnson]

Hey,

Back in the day (4 years ago), we used Mikrotik for our main core 
routers. We would allocate a single IP address from each /24 (randomly 
selected) and then we created a rule that any outside IP address that 
even "touched" that IP was added to our Blackhole address list and 
dropped on the incoming interfaces.


This was a cheap, easy way to stop many, many attacks. Our blackhole 
list often contained 50,000+ IP addresses.


Travis


On 7/14/2017 10:59 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:

I agree.  It solves many problems.  We had 1 this year… had to drop a /24 for 
about 5 minutes.  The other option is to BGP cloud scrub… much bigger $$.

What we have found is that dealing with even small attacks or identified 
attacks has slowed the frequency and intensity.  Regardless, if you’re a 
target, you’re going to get hurt in today’s day and age.

Cheers,
  
Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com 
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
  
_

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On 2017-07-14, 12:44 PM, "Af on behalf of Seth Mattinen"  wrote:

 On 7/14/17 09:04, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:
 > We implemented Corero.  It works as advertised, all our traffic is
 > scrubbed on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at our main
 > core, 2 separate 10Gbps feeds.  We also have a secondary site with
 > 10Gbps and it has a corero as well.  It has allowed us to sleep at night!
 >
 
 
 I don't see how this would help if an attacker tries to shove 40Gbps

 down 2x10GbE pipes.
 
 ~Seth
 

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Mike Hammett]

Sure, it won't fix those, but it'll fix all of the smaller ones. :-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Seth Mattinen"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:44:05 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor? 

On 7/14/17 09:04, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: 
> We implemented Corero. It works as advertised, all our traffic is 
> scrubbed on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at our main 
> core, 2 separate 10Gbps feeds. We also have a secondary site with 
> 10Gbps and it has a corero as well. It has allowed us to sleep at night! 
> 


I don't see how this would help if an attacker tries to shove 40Gbps 
down 2x10GbE pipes. 

~Seth 

Re: [AFMUG] Drop Plow

[Adam Moffett]

Can you share about how much it was and how well used it is in age or 
hours of operation?



-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 7/14/2017 3:37:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drop Plow


And yes, it goes on in place of the trencher.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:
It's just unwieldy, I'm thinking I can use a shop crane to attach it 
though.



On Friday, July 14, 2017, Adam Moffett  wrote:
I've been eyeballing one of those for a long time.  I didn't know 
there was a hoe attachment..but I assume you have to take off the 
trencher or plow to put that on.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 7/13/2017 6:33:24 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Drop Plow


First run with the new (to me) drop plow.

Re: [AFMUG] Drop Plow

[Jason McKemie]

And yes, it goes on in place of the trencher.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> It's just unwieldy, I'm thinking I can use a shop crane to attach it
> though.
>
>
> On Friday, July 14, 2017, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> I've been eyeballing one of those for a long time.  I didn't know there
>> was a hoe attachment..but I assume you have to take off the trencher or
>> plow to put that on.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Jason McKemie" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 7/13/2017 6:33:24 PM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Drop Plow
>>
>> First run with the new (to me) drop plow.
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[George Skorup]

FSK vs OFDM in regards to them seeing each other's beacon info. Never 
gonna happen.
RF sync between the two works fine with 5ms framing on the 450i. 900 
FSK=5ms only, all other bands=2.5ms only. Just run the frame calcs. I 
can run the exact same settings @ 5MHz and one extra control slot @ 7MHz 
on the 450i. 5ms framing has the advantage of twice the control slots 
and about 10-15% more throughput vs 2.5ms for the same settings. There's 
more latency at 5ms, but it's 900 which sucks no matter what, so whatever.


On 7/14/2017 1:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

you can't even run fsk and ofdm on different channels using timing?
we have not tried this yet

- Original Message -
*From:* George Skorup 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2017 12:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

FSK vs OFDM. 100% incompatible.

On 7/14/2017 7:03 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> I just assumed that Cambium's old 900 MHz equipment wouldn't see
the
> beacon information from their new stuff.
>
> CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>> obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm
>> having a hard time matching up the mac address -
>> any help?
>> thanks :)
>> AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
>> Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled
Color
>> Code 0)
>>
>> Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
>> ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
>> Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
>> Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0
feet
>> MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
>> Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0
EncryptFail: 0
>> Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
>> NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
>> FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0
>> SectorUserCount: 2
>> NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
>> WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
>> SM PPPoE: Supported
>>
>> my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?
>>
>>



>> Virus-free. www.avg.com 
>>



>>
>>
>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[Mathew Howard]

FSK and OFDM should sync with eachother fine, you just aren't going to see
a 450i AP with an FSK SM.


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 1:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> you can't even run fsk and ofdm on different channels using timing?
> we have not tried this yet
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* George Skorup 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2017 12:19 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?
>
> FSK vs OFDM. 100% incompatible.
>
> On 7/14/2017 7:03 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> > I just assumed that Cambium's old 900 MHz equipment wouldn't see the
> > beacon information from their new stuff.
> >
> > CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
> >> obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm
> >> having a hard time matching up the mac address -
> >> any help?
> >> thanks :)
> >> AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
> >> Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color
> >> Code 0)
> >>
> >> Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
> >> ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
> >> Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
> >> Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet
> >> MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
> >> Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0
> >> Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
> >> NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
> >> FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0
> >> SectorUserCount: 2
> >> NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
> >> WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
> >> SM PPPoE: Supported
> >>
> >> my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?
> >>
> >>  utm_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
> >> Virus-free. www.avg.com
> >>  utm_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
> >>
> >>
> >> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

the 9c through me off, yes, we've got some 0a-00-3e-95 but nothing newer than i 
knew of...
.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Colin Stanners 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?


  IIRC the addresses started as 0a-00-3e-90, we bought some many years ago that 
were -95, so if it's -9c it must be about brand new.


  Is it yours? It's unconfigured (colour code 0), you should know if you have 
one of those on your network.



  On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:40 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


Any idea what year manufactured?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Darren Shea 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?


  I’d think PMP100 900 MHz – I know we have a few of those SMs in the 
0a-00-3e-9c MAC address range, 



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 1:47 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?





  obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm having a 
hard time matching up the mac address - 



  any help?



  thanks :)



AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color 
Code 0)

Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 
0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 2
NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 


   

  my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

you can't even run fsk and ofdm on different channels using timing?
we have not tried this yet

  - Original Message - 
  From: George Skorup 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?


  FSK vs OFDM. 100% incompatible.

  On 7/14/2017 7:03 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
  > I just assumed that Cambium's old 900 MHz equipment wouldn't see the 
  > beacon information from their new stuff.
  >
  > CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
  >> obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm 
  >> having a hard time matching up the mac address -
  >> any help?
  >> thanks :)
  >> AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
  >> Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color 
  >> Code 0)
  >>
  >> Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
  >> ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
  >> Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  >> Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
  >> MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  >> Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
  >> Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  >> NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  >> FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
  >> SectorUserCount: 2
  >> NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
  >> WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  >> SM PPPoE: Supported
  >>
  >> my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?
  >>
  >> 

 
  >> Virus-free. www.avg.com 
  >> 

 
  >>
  >>
  >> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
  >

Re: [AFMUG] PTP600 takes a licking...

[Stefan Englhardt]

One of our PTP600 lost front cover this week. It was a strong wind but not 
hard. Runs for several years now. Runs without cover until we replace it next 
week. I guess the plastic is not built to last forever.

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: Mark Radabaugh  
Datum: 14.07.17  16:33  (GMT+01:00) 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: [AFMUG] PTP600 takes a licking... 

Re: [AFMUG] Drop Plow

[George Skorup]

Or mullet: business in the front, party in the back.

On 7/14/2017 7:48 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

There has to be a "that's what she said" joke in here somewhere...

-Original Message- From: Jon Langeler
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drop Plow

Trencher on one end. Vibratory plow on the other?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jul 13, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:


First run with the new (to me) drop plow.
 

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[George Skorup]

FSK vs OFDM. 100% incompatible.

On 7/14/2017 7:03 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I just assumed that Cambium's old 900 MHz equipment wouldn't see the 
beacon information from their new stuff.


CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm 
having a hard time matching up the mac address -

any help?
thanks :)
AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color 
Code 0)


Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0

NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 2

NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported

my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?

 
Virus-free. www.avg.com 
 



<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix or equivalent POE for BOTH Mimosa and Cambium PMP gear

[Rory Conaway]

Netonix handles Mimosa just fine.  I've got at least 50 Netonix switches or 
more running that.  I don't have any Cambium equipment though.


Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 4:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com; Gino A. Villarini
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix or equivalent POE for BOTH Mimosa and Cambium PMP 
gear

For small sites I would have a look at Routerboard hEX PoE, PowerBox Pro. 
You could power them with 24 or 48. They dont convert Voltage. So feeded by
24 they deliver 24 ... They could do Passive 802.3af/at. There is a 
HW-GE-Switch inside which connects all 5 Ethernetports. The SFP Port could be 
bridged with SW.

You could power them with POE or you could feed them with DC.


On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:17:17 +
  "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:
> None are switches, any issues with Netonix?
> 
>From: Af
>> on behalf of Sam 
>Lambie >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>
> Date: Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix or equivalent POE for BOTH Mimosa and 
>Cambium PMP gear
> 
> That is just what I was looking for. I forgot about this piece of 
>hardware. It won't be coming out until at least Sept though for round 
>two of production.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico
>00968
> 
> [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
> 
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen 
>> wrote:
> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
> 
> Looks interesting. I wonder if anyone has one out in the wild yet. Far 
>cheaper than a CTM2 or a CMM5
> 
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Sam Lambie 
>>
>wrote:
> Is there a POE switch that will power 450 AP/BH and Mimosa and UBNT 
>gear in the same box?
> Sam
> 
> --
> --
> Sam Lambie
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office 
> www.Taosnet.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> --
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Re: [AFMUG] Drop Plow

[Jason McKemie]

It's just unwieldy, I'm thinking I can use a shop crane to attach it though.

On Friday, July 14, 2017, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I've been eyeballing one of those for a long time.  I didn't know there
> was a hoe attachment..but I assume you have to take off the trencher or
> plow to put that on.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jason McKemie"  >
> To: "af@afmug.com " <
> af@afmug.com >
> Sent: 7/13/2017 6:33:24 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Drop Plow
>
> First run with the new (to me) drop plow.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[Darren Shea]

The 0a-00-3e-9c-fc-xx units were connectorized SMs with P10 boards. We'd
sold them off back in the middle of 2010, so I'd guess probably a 2008-2009
manufacture date. We'd mostly abandoned the 900 MHz equipment by that point,
so it would have been one of the last boxes of SM we ever bought.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

 

 

Any idea what year manufactured?

- Original Message - 

From: Darren Shea   

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:29 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

 

I'd think PMP100 900 MHz - I know we have a few of those SMs in the
0a-00-3e-9c MAC address range, 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 1:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

 

 

obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm having a
hard time matching up the mac address - 

 

any help?

 

thanks :)

 


AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color Code 0)

Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0
SectorUserCount: 2
NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 

my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Andreas Wiatowski]

I agree.  It solves many problems.  We had 1 this year… had to drop a /24 for 
about 5 minutes.  The other option is to BGP cloud scrub… much bigger $$.

What we have found is that dealing with even small attacks or identified 
attacks has slowed the frequency and intensity.  Regardless, if you’re a 
target, you’re going to get hurt in today’s day and age.

Cheers,
 
Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com 
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
 
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On 2017-07-14, 12:44 PM, "Af on behalf of Seth Mattinen"  wrote:

On 7/14/17 09:04, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:
> We implemented Corero.  It works as advertised, all our traffic is 
> scrubbed on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at our main 
> core, 2 separate 10Gbps feeds.  We also have a secondary site with 
> 10Gbps and it has a corero as well.  It has allowed us to sleep at night!
> 


I don't see how this would help if an attacker tries to shove 40Gbps 
down 2x10GbE pipes.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[Colin Stanners]

IIRC the addresses started as 0a-00-3e-90, we bought some many years ago
that were -95, so if it's -9c it must be about brand new.

Is it yours? It's unconfigured (colour code 0), you should know if you have
one of those on your network.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:40 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> Any idea what year manufactured?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Darren Shea 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2017 8:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?
>
> I’d think PMP100 900 MHz – I know we have a few of those SMs in the
> 0a-00-3e-9c MAC address range,
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2017 1:47 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?
>
>
>
>
>
> obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm having a
> hard time matching up the mac address -
>
>
>
> any help?
>
>
>
> thanks :)
>
>
>
> AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
> Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color Code 0)
>
> Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
> ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
> Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
> Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet
> MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
> Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0
> Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
> NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
> FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0
> SectorUserCount: 2
> NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
> WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
> SM PPPoE: Supported
>
> my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Seth Mattinen]

On 7/14/17 09:04, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:
We implemented Corero.  It works as advertised, all our traffic is 
scrubbed on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at our main 
core, 2 separate 10Gbps feeds.  We also have a secondary site with 
10Gbps and it has a corero as well.  It has allowed us to sleep at night!





I don't see how this would help if an attacker tries to shove 40Gbps 
down 2x10GbE pipes.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Any idea what year manufactured?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Darren Shea 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?


  I'd think PMP100 900 MHz - I know we have a few of those SMs in the 
0a-00-3e-9c MAC address range, 

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 1:47 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

   

   

  obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm having a hard 
time matching up the mac address - 

   

  any help?

   

  thanks :)

   

AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color 
Code 0)

Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 2
NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 


   

  my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?

   

   

   

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Cassidy B. Larson]

How much do they run?


> On Jul 14, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Andreas Wiatowski  
> wrote:
> 
> We implemented Corero.  It works as advertised, all our traffic is scrubbed 
> on the fly and only bad traffic is dumped This is at our main core, 2 
> separate 10Gbps feeds.  We also have a secondary site with 10Gbps and it has 
> a corero as well.  It has allowed us to sleep at night!
>  
> 
> Cheers,
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
> Silo Wireless Inc.
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600
> http://www.silowireless.com  
> >
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>  
>  
> On 2017-07-13, 9:22 AM, "Af on behalf of Christopher Tyler" 
>  on behalf of 
> ch...@totalhighspeed.net > wrote:
>  
> We weren't able to find a "cost-effective" solution.
> What we found is that the cost is going to be based on the amount of 
> traffic that you receive as well as the cost for setup and equipment to do 
> the BGP switch for you it was well into the tens of thousands of dollars up 
> front. With four different upstream providers in four separate data centers, 
> the costs for us weren't justifiable.
> A small caveat which wasn't a problem for us since we already do BGP with 
> all of our upstream providers, but if your upstream doesn't do BGP you are 
> out of luck.
> 
> -- 
> Christopher Tyler 
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
> Total Highspeed Internet Services 
> 417.851.1107
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dev" >
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:32:53 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?
> 
> Who is a good for cost-effective DDoS protection and what are you paying? 
> My upstream really doesn’t now to handle a DDoS, so I’m looking for someone 
> to help with some subnets.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Drop Plow

[Adam Moffett]

I've been eyeballing one of those for a long time.  I didn't know there 
was a hoe attachment..but I assume you have to take off the trencher 
or plow to put that on.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 7/13/2017 6:33:24 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Drop Plow


First run with the new (to me) drop plow.

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[Steve Jones]

at a -45 id say you could go to the site and see it pretty clearly with the
eyeballs

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Pretty sure PMP100 won't pick up anything other than a PMP100 AP.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Darren Shea  wrote:
>
>> I’d think PMP100 900 MHz – I know we have a few of those SMs in the
>> 0a-00-3e-9c MAC address range,
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2017 1:47 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm having a
>> hard time matching up the mac address -
>>
>>
>>
>> any help?
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks :)
>>
>>
>>
>> AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
>> Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color Code
>> 0)
>>
>> Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
>> ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
>> Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
>> Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet
>> MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
>> Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0
>> Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
>> NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
>> FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0
>> SectorUserCount: 2
>> NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
>> WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
>> SM PPPoE: Supported
>>
>> my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[Mathew Howard]

Pretty sure PMP100 won't pick up anything other than a PMP100 AP.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Darren Shea  wrote:

> I’d think PMP100 900 MHz – I know we have a few of those SMs in the
> 0a-00-3e-9c MAC address range,
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2017 1:47 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?
>
>
>
>
>
> obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm having a
> hard time matching up the mac address -
>
>
>
> any help?
>
>
>
> thanks :)
>
>
>
> AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
> Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color Code 0)
>
> Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
> ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
> Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
> Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet
> MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
> Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0
> Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
> NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
> FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0
> SectorUserCount: 2
> NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
> WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
> SM PPPoE: Supported
>
> my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] PTP600 takes a licking...

[Mark Radabaugh]

A lightning strike adjacent to one of our tower sites burned a couple of 
apartments down on Wednesday evening 
(http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2017/07/12/Firefighters-battle-blaze-at-Perrysburg-apartments.html
 
)
   

Thursday night a customer with a PTP600 lost connectivity even though both ends 
of the PTP600 appeared to be up and working normally, the link just wouldn’t 
transfer data to the customer.  We went out this morning to investigate and 
found a bad Ethernet fitting at the customer end.   In the meantime we went to 
the tower site to check the near side and and found the front cover of the 
PTP600 missing.

Best we can tell the shock wave took the front cover off.  Every one of the 
mounting bosses for the cover are broken off at the tip of the screw.   Must 
have been an impressive blast.

Mark

Re: [AFMUG] BGP history

[Steve]

Also if you use Mikrotik you can log BGP information that takes place.  Any 
keepalives, updates and such.  I just sort through things in splunk or another 
central logging program to narrow down what happened.  

-- 
Steven Kenney
Network Operations Manager
WaveDirect Telecommunications
http://www.wavedirect.net
(519)737-WAVE (9283)

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: "af" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:05:42 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] BGP history

I don't know how to use these looking glasses and understand what I'm
seeing, probably pretty simple.
what we have is two upstreems we peer with. Our ASN consists of a /22 we
announce as /24s, two on each provider (bad, I know) what happened this
morning was one upstream seems to have gotten some mud in their pudding and
the interwebs couldn't get to those two /24. Because I'm pretty good at
finding ways to ensure all my practices are bad our network DNS resolvers
were on those two /24 also, so pretty much all our customers are pissed

I ultimately disabled all my static routes internally, added the two /24 to
the provider that wasn't smoking crack and dropped my ospf default route on
the bad router and killed the peering session.

when I added the two, before anything else, it brought everyone back up,
they were going out bad peer 1 and in good guy peer 2, So had I been
running full /22 on both peers I assume we wouldn't have known there was an
issue other than problem calls for stuff that doesn't like assymetric
paths, probably would have resulted in hours of troubleshooting before I
looked at BGP

I get bgpmon alerts, but have received none this morning


how can I look back historically to see what of mine was being announced
where and by whom?

and whats the best free or low cost monitoring that I can get good alerts
on?

This may turn out not to have been a BGP issue, the upstream may have just
stubbed their toe

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Paul Stewart]

Procera boxes can do some neat tricks as you mention for sure… just be sure you 
don’t topple over the box(es) in doing so though as it’s not hard to do (as 
their boxes are not designed for it so understandable) 

Paul


> On Jul 14, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Steve  wrote:
> 
> Procera has some tricks in dealing with DDOS too.  I had one of their 
> engineers send me over some ideas a while back.  I have never needed to use 
> it however. But the one good thing about it was that if something happens 
> you'll see where the target of the DDOS is going pretty fast.  At times it is 
> difficult to find when your routers are overloaded.  
> 
> Steven Kenney
> Network Operations Manager
> WaveDirect Telecommunications
> http://www.wavedirect.net
> (519)737-WAVE (9283)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Simon Westlake" 
> To: "af" 
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:29:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?
> 
> There are companies where you can have them announce your IP space, and 
> they only send you the 'good' traffic. But it costs a hell of a lot more 
> than just upgrading your upstream for most smaller ISPs.
> 
> On 7/13/2017 10:19 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>> Is there a way to do DDOS protection that doesn't involve buying a 
>> bigger bandwidth pipe or initiating some sort of blackhole with your 
>> upstream?
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hammett > > wrote:
>> 
>>I'm going to be implementing some on-net scrubbing boxes.
>>Obviously limited by upstream capacity, simply acquire more
>>upstream capacity.  ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>-
>>Mike Hammett
>>Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>
>> 
>>Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>
>> 
>>The Brothers WISP 
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>*From: *"Dev" >
>>*To: *af@afmug.com 
>>*Sent: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:32:53 PM
>>*Subject: *[AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?
>> 
>>Who is a good for cost-effective DDoS protection and what are you
>>paying? My upstream really doesn’t now to handle a DDoS, so I’m
>>looking for someone to help with some subnets.
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSS
> https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Graphic Display of OSPF routes

[Steve]

Would also be nice if Mikrotik actually supported BGP.MIB as well as some OSPF 
stuff. Would be easier to build our own maps. I heard it was coming in V7 
though.  Anyone able to confirm?  I've not played with it yet.  

Steven Kenney
Network Operations Manager
WaveDirect Telecommunications
http://www.wavedirect.net
(519)737-WAVE (9283)

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "af" 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:43:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Graphic Display of OSPF routes

Doing so dynamically isn't that effective. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:03:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Graphic Display of OSPF routes 


Uses agents inside the network, like most tools that aren't simply SNMP based. 


On Jul 12, 2017 3:15 PM, "Wireless Administrator" < wirel...@htn.net > wrote: 





Based on the privacy disclosure it looks like a cloud based application. 

Steve 


From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:48 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Graphic Display of OSPF routes 


There are plenty of tools out there that do this, but I only know of one 
free/open source one. 



Thousandeyes is one of the more popular ones. 



On Jul 12, 2017 2:20 PM, "David Coudron" < david.coud...@advantenon.com > 
wrote: 


We are also keenly interested in this and following. It isn’t a big issue for 
us now, but will be some day and would like to find a tool for it. 


David Coudron 
david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474 

Advantenon, Inc. 
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i...@advantenon.com | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N , Suite 315 , Plymouth, MN 55447 | 
www.advantenon.com | Phone: 800-704-4720 | Local: 612-454-1545 





From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 1:54 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Graphic Display of OSPF routes 

+672  



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Wireless Administrator 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 2:29 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Graphic Display of OSPF routes 

We have multiple routes to just about any endpoint in our network. Some are 
configured as equal cost while others are configured to be used only as a 
backup. It just seems like it would be useful to have a visual of OSPF status 
to be sure everything is healthy and functioning as configured. 

Steve 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 1:22 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Graphic Display of OSPF routes 


What is it that you're wanting to see? NetXMS pulls the routing tables to 
create maps, so the information is there. I'm not sure if it natively displays 
what you're looking for. They have been known to make major additions, so if 
you spell it out enough, they could probably add it. 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Wireless Administrator" < wirel...@htn.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:11:12 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Graphic Display of OSPF routes 
Can anyone recommend a network management tool that provides a dynamic graphic 
representation of OSPF routes? I went poking around and found OSPFviz. Are 
there others? Anyone care to share experiences? 

Thanks, 
Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

[Steve]

Procera has some tricks in dealing with DDOS too.  I had one of their engineers 
send me over some ideas a while back.  I have never needed to use it however. 
But the one good thing about it was that if something happens you'll see where 
the target of the DDOS is going pretty fast.  At times it is difficult to find 
when your routers are overloaded.  

Steven Kenney
Network Operations Manager
WaveDirect Telecommunications
http://www.wavedirect.net
(519)737-WAVE (9283)

- Original Message -
From: "Simon Westlake" 
To: "af" 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:29:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?

There are companies where you can have them announce your IP space, and 
they only send you the 'good' traffic. But it costs a hell of a lot more 
than just upgrading your upstream for most smaller ISPs.

On 7/13/2017 10:19 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> Is there a way to do DDOS protection that doesn't involve buying a 
> bigger bandwidth pipe or initiating some sort of blackhole with your 
> upstream?
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hammett  > wrote:
>
> I'm going to be implementing some on-net scrubbing boxes.
> Obviously limited by upstream capacity, simply acquire more
> upstream capacity.  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> 
> *From: *"Dev" >
> *To: *af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:32:53 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] DDoS protection vendor?
>
> Who is a good for cost-effective DDoS protection and what are you
> paying? My upstream really doesn’t now to handle a DDoS, so I’m
> looking for someone to help with some subnets.
>
>

-- 
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[Darren Shea]

I'd think PMP100 900 MHz - I know we have a few of those SMs in the
0a-00-3e-9c MAC address range, 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 1:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

 

 

obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm having a
hard time matching up the mac address - 

 

any help?

 

thanks :)

 


AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color Code 0)

Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan
Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0
SectorUserCount: 2
NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported 



my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[Jay Weekley]

I just assumed that Cambium's old 900 MHz equipment wouldn't see the 
beacon information from their new stuff.


CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm having 
a hard time matching up the mac address -

any help?
thanks :)
AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color 
Code 0)


Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz
ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0

NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 2

NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
SM PPPoE: Supported

my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?

 
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Re: [AFMUG] anyone got any rocket M900 and yagi's they want to unload?

[Jaime Solorza]

Ok..share your results.  Thanks

Jaime Solorza

On Jul 14, 2017 12:03 AM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:

> What's the narrowest channel an AF2 will do, 10 MHz?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m good, thank you.  I got a couple offers.  The test will be 1 mile of
>> trees, 900MHz versus 2.4GHz.  Right now I’m going to use Ubiquiti 900
>> versus Ubiquiti AF2 versus Rocket 2M.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:36 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone got any rocket M900 and yagi's they want
>> to unload?
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me check...I think we might have one of each
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2017 4:07 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>> I just need 1 of each for testing.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> “"Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough
>> features yet."— Scott Adams
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix or equivalent POE for BOTH Mimosa and Cambium PMP gear

[Stefan Englhardt]

For small sites I would have a look at Routerboard hEX PoE, PowerBox Pro. 
You could power them with 24 or 48. They dont convert Voltage. So feeded by 
24 they deliver 24 ... They could do Passive 802.3af/at. There is a 
HW-GE-Switch inside which connects all 5 Ethernetports. The SFP Port could 
be bridged with SW.


You could power them with POE or you could feed them with DC.


On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:17:17 +
 "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:

None are switches, any issues with Netonix?

From: Af 
> on 
behalf of Sam Lambie 
>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>

Date: Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix or equivalent POE for BOTH 
Mimosa and Cambium PMP gear


That is just what I was looking for. I forgot about this 
piece of hardware. It won't be coming out until at least 
Sept though for round two of production.





Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 
00968


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On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen 
> wrote:

http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/

Looks interesting. I wonder if anyone has one out in the 
wild yet. Far cheaper than a CTM2 or a CMM5


On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Sam Lambie 
> 
wrote:
Is there a POE switch that will power 450 AP/BH and 
Mimosa and UBNT gear in the same box?

Sam

--
--
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com




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Re: [AFMUG] Netonix or equivalent POE for BOTH Mimosa and Cambium PMP gear

[Gino A. Villarini]

None are switches, any issues with Netonix?

From: Af > on behalf of Sam 
Lambie >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix or equivalent POE for BOTH Mimosa and Cambium PMP 
gear

That is just what I was looking for. I forgot about this piece of hardware. It 
won't be coming out until at least Sept though for round two of production.




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On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen 
> wrote:
http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/

Looks interesting. I wonder if anyone has one out in the wild yet. Far cheaper 
than a CTM2 or a CMM5

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Sam Lambie 
> wrote:
Is there a POE switch that will power 450 AP/BH and Mimosa and UBNT gear in the 
same box?
Sam

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Re: [AFMUG] Netonix or equivalent POE for BOTH Mimosa and Cambium PMP gear

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

The PowerInjector + Sync which is shipping right now does pretty much the
same power injection as the rackinjector will   In fact the
rackinjector injection boards for all intents and purposes share the exact
same circuitry.

What's holding up the rackinjectors at this point is the new control board,
which is giving us no end of problems on the manufacturing line.   Well,
that and the new "faster, easier, less pain in the rear (tell me another
story) automated test equipment".

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>
> Looks interesting. I wonder if anyone has one out in the wild yet. Far
> cheaper than a CTM2 or a CMM5
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Is there a POE switch that will power 450 AP/BH and Mimosa and UBNT gear
>> in the same box?
>> Sam
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>


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[AFMUG] what kind of device would this be?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

obviously 900 mhz and obviously cambium (former moto) - but i'm having a hard 
time matching up the mac address - 

any help?

thanks :)

  AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput
  Current entry index: 0 Session Status: SCANNING (via Disabled Color Code 
0)

  Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz 
  ESN: 0a-00-3e-9c-2d-9b Region: United States
  Jitter: 2 Power Level: -45 dBm Beacon Count: 16 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0
  Type: Multipoint Avail: 0 Age: 4 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet 
MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0
  Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 
Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0
  NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0
  FrameNumber: 1068 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 
SectorUserCount: 2
  NumULHalfSlots: 12 NumDLHalfSlots: 35 NumULContSlots: 0
  WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled
  SM PPPoE: Supported 
 

my only guess would be 900 mhz pmp450i?

Re: [AFMUG] anyone got any rocket M900 and yagi's they want to unload?

[Eric Kuhnke]

What's the narrowest channel an AF2 will do, 10 MHz?



On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> I’m good, thank you.  I got a couple offers.  The test will be 1 mile of
> trees, 900MHz versus 2.4GHz.  Right now I’m going to use Ubiquiti 900
> versus Ubiquiti AF2 versus Rocket 2M.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:36 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone got any rocket M900 and yagi's they want to
> unload?
>
>
>
> Let me check...I think we might have one of each
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2017 4:07 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
> I just need 1 of each for testing.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “"Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough
> features yet."— Scott Adams
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] anyone got any rocket M900 and yagi's they want to unload?

[Rory Conaway]

I’m good, thank you.  I got a couple offers.  The test will be 1 mile of trees, 
900MHz versus 2.4GHz.  Right now I’m going to use Ubiquiti 900 versus Ubiquiti 
AF2 versus Rocket 2M.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:36 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone got any rocket M900 and yagi's they want to unload?

Let me check...I think we might have one of each
Jaime Solorza

On Jul 13, 2017 4:07 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
> wrote:
I just need 1 of each for testing.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
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www.triadwireless.net

“"Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features 
yet."— Scott Adams