Re: [AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance Sources?

[Keefe John]

They have you rated at code 5040 which is Iron or Steel Erection.  The 
rate for this code is roughly 26%


You should be rated at code 7600 which is Telecommunications and the 
rate is roughly 8%.


Call Unitel and they'll get you straightened out.

Keefe


On 5/8/2018 6:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

WC for climbers is probably 20-25% of the payroll rate.
And you pay that whether or not you are climbing.
*From:* Sam Lambie
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 08, 2018 4:43 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance Sources?
Hey all,
My company is getting charged an assload a year for one tower climber 
(me). Supposedly, I have been reclassified as a steel and tower 
erector and such our Workmans Comp and Insurance has doubled. Whom do 
you guys use and what are the ball park figures you are seeing? We 
would like to get out of this if the prices are substantially lower.

Thanks
Sam
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Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

[Keefe John]

Is issuetracker your own product?

Keefe

On April 19, 2018 1:47:07 PM CDT, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>Layne,
>
>If it's something you're able to discuss on list, can you summarize
>what 
>advantages IssueTracker would give us over the built in ticketing in 
>Powercode or Sonar?
>
>Thanks,
>Adam
>
>
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Layne Sisk" 
>To: "af@afmug.com" 
>Sent: 4/19/2018 1:39:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing
>
>>Hit me up if you want some info on IssueTracker.  It is what we used 
>>internally and we do license it (or give it away free for the
>companies 
>>we support).  It has full integration with Zendesk, Powercode, Sonar, 
>>UBO, and has pretty good integration available with SalesForce and 
>>Sugar CRM.
>>
>>
>>
>>Layne Sisk
>>
>>ServerPlus
>>
>>801.426.8283, ext 102 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Af  On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
>>Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:18 AM
>>To:af@afmug.com
>>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing
>>
>>
>>
>>The company I used to work for had custom ticketing that would 
>>intergrate into powercode I believe it was all done with API so if any
>
>>of these open source ticket software have API you should be able to
>put 
>>it into your billing sytstem if the system have API.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: "Matt Hoppes" 
>>>To: af@afmug.com
>>>Date: 04/19/18 08:48
>>>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing
>>>
>>>Well and they're in is the problem. There is no link between Zendesk 
>>>and power code other than the customer name and email address. But
>not 
>>>finding a perfect solution in a billing system this is the solution
>we 
>>>have thus far. At least it aggregates all means of communication into
>
>>>one ticket system that we can use internally
>>>
>>>
>>>On Apr 19, 2018, at 08:33, Gino A. Villarini  
>>>wrote:
>>>
Nice, but how do you integrate it with the customer info you need to
>
have on hand?



From: Af  on behalf of Matt Hoppes 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 8:20 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing




Check out Zendesk it will integrate with many things. We have
>Zendesk 
integrated with our text messages and Facebook page.

The only thing in power code or call logs when someone calls in but 
there's no reason you couldn't create a new ticket in Zendesk and 
link it to the customers email address. You can create a new account
>
in Zendesk for the customer if you need to, or if they've ever 
emailed in before they will already have an account.





Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On Apr 19, 2018, at 07:50, Darin Steffl  
wrote:

>I'm afraid of having too many places for tickets so we're trying to
>
>decide on one place. I don't want email tickets in zendesk, phone 
>call tickets in Azotel, texts in zipwhip, and Facebook messages on 
>Facebook.
>
>
>
>I'd really love an easy way (doesn't need to be free) to combine
>all 
>our support methods into one spot so we don't lose or forget
>things.
>
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 12:14 PM Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:
>
>>You can open a ticket in Zendesk.
>>
>>
>>
>>Do you mean open a ticket the customer can refer to or for you to 
>>track?  I guess you could do either.
>>
>>
>>
>>We sometimes open tickets in zendesk to email the customer. Really
>
>>your billing/CRM system should be handling phone support tickets 
>>and linking them to the account.
>>
>>
>>On Apr 19, 2018, at 05:18, Darin Steffl  
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I am having trouble finding a ticket system that is also good for
>
>>>people who call in. Most seem like you need a customer to email
>in 
>>>to create a ticket. It seems harder to manually enter a ticket
>for 
>>>those who call us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Am I overlooking something obvious on zendesk for this? I don't 
>>>need it integrated into my phone system, just an easy way to 
>>>create a ticket when someone calls in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 11:54 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>>> wrote:
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[Keefe John]

When will we see UBNT or Mimosa 18 or 23 GHz?

Keefe

On April 18, 2018 5:51:19 PM CDT, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>what rain zone are you in?
>
>yes our link is in 18GHz
>
>honestly if you need 1gbps with 4.5 nines with 2' dishes at 6 miles you
>probably need to look at 11GHz or 6GHz instead of 18GHz.
>
>-sean
>
>
>On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM, SmarterBroadband 
>wrote:
>
>> Cambium 820's will be down to around 400 meg at 4.5 nines.
>>
>> We want the link to hold 1 Gig at 4.5 nines.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx
>Sensitivity
>>
>> What does link planner say you need?
>>
>> Five nines I presume?
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> > Yes, looking at both.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx
>Sensitivity
>> >
>> > On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> >> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen…. 
>Especially
>> >> the G and GS.
>> >
>> > I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.
>> >
>>
>>

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Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

[Keefe John]

If you want free a lot of people also use Request Tracker and OS Ticket.

Keefe

On April 18, 2018 6:07:50 PM CDT, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" 
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>Yeah, I'm sort of leaning toward Zendesk just because of all of the
>integrations.
>
>On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>wrote:
>
>> We use Sonar but zendesk is very popular.
>>
>> Keefe
>>
>>
>> On April 18, 2018 5:54:10 PM CDT, "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
><
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What is everyone using for support tickets nowadays?  I've about had
>it
>>> with our system.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=3577+Countryside+Road,+Helena,+MT+59602=gmail=g>
>>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>
>>> <http://facebook.com/packetflux>  <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
>
>
>-- 
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>Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
><http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

[Keefe John]

We use Sonar but zendesk is very popular.

Keefe

On April 18, 2018 5:54:10 PM CDT, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" 
 wrote:
>What is everyone using for support tickets nowadays?  I've about had it
>with our system.
>
>-- 
>*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
> 
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] MDU coax

[Keefe John]

You can do this will channel master parts. We've done up to 240 rooms.

Keefe

On April 13, 2018 6:52:03 PM CDT, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:
>I assume an MDU pre wired with coax could have an amp and antenna
>stuffed on the system?
>
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:39, Josh Reynolds 
>wrote:
>> 
>> It's been forever, don't remember the brands.
>> 
>> DTV is very sensitive. Be sure to use only RG6 cable and quality
>Fconnectors. 44-700MHz for amps and splitters and patch panels.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:28 PM Matt Hoppes
> wrote:
>>> I figured. Any recommendation oh guru of knowledge?
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2018, at 19:20, Josh Reynolds 
>wrote:
 
 You need distribution amplifier.
 
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 6:17 PM Matt Hoppes
> wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions for how to take OTA reception of
>TV and send it through existing coax in an MDU?  Do I need some sort of
>amplifier, or will it work split off to say 50 units direct on the
>coax?

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Re: [AFMUG] MDU kickback structures ?

[Keefe John]

Up to 20% recurring commission.

Or sometimes they'll do one time "door fees" up to $500 per unit.

Keefe

On April 10, 2018 6:28:21 PM CDT, Jon Langeler  
wrote:
>What are some common kickback percentages to the building owner? How do
>ATT, Comcast, etc work with landlords?
>
>Thanks 
>
>Jon Langeler
>Michwave Technologies, Inc.

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Re: [AFMUG] 2.5G Base-T

[Keefe John]

I wonder if that adds to the cost.

On March 29, 2018 3:55:34 PM CDT, Brett A Mansfield 
 wrote:
>I heard rumor that the next revision of Netonix switches will be
>standard 2.5 on all ports.
>
>Thank you,
>Brett A Mansfield
>
>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 2:30 PM, Seth Mattinen 
>wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/29/18 1:22 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>> I didn't even realize this was a thing.  Thought everything was
>going fiber above 1Gb/s
>> 
>> 
>> 2.5GBASE-T ports exist on IgniteNet gear, at least. I haven't seen
>any switches in the wild yet.

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Re: [AFMUG] DSLAM choices for mdu

[Keefe John]

I wish UBNT would come out with something affordable!

Keefe


On 3/28/2018 3:26 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
My usual vendor Versatek has discontinued their 8 port VDSL DSLAM. I 
am looking for something similar. Not opposed to 24 port as well.

What are you guys using out there?

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Keefe John]

How does that work exactly?

On March 25, 2018 3:32:41 PM CDT, Jeff Broadwick - Lists  
wrote:
>They are going to use the 3GHz 450m with an additional device at the
>tower.  The CPE will have to be different though.
>
>Jeff Broadwick
>CTIconnect
>312-205-2519 Office
>574-220-7826 Cell
>jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>
>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>> 
>> I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform.
>Why not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer
>goodies of LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know
>where this ended up.
>> 
>> Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 
>> 
>> 
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
>>> An: af@afmug.com
>>> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>>> 
>>> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>> 

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Re: [AFMUG] LIST BEING SLOW - VERY SLOW...

[Keefe John]

Must be the Russians.


On 3/23/2018 10:40 AM, Paul McCall wrote:


Guys,

Over the weekend, we became aware that the list has been very slow.� 
We are digging in this AM as we all had a busy weekend here.� It 
appears that there might be some form of attack against the list from 
overseas.


Steve, who did you tick off?

Anyway, we will get it figured out and back to normal.� Of course, by 
the time you see this, you probably wont know that we are working on it.


Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com 

Re: [AFMUG] test (list lag time)

[Keefe John]

Just got it now, Tuesday at 12:18 PM CST.

I think your internet tubes are clogged.


On 3/20/2018 11:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Posted Saturday March 17 9:21 MDT

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Keefe John]

My last message in this thread took two days to show up.

Keefe

On March 18, 2018 11:34:52 AM CDT, Jay Weekley  
wrote:
>Same here.
>
>Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> http://www.avg.com
>>
>>

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Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Keefe John]

This list is eating messages.  I responded to this earlier and didn't 
get it yet.



On 3/16/2018 3:35 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Keefe John]

That's because the internet is a series of tubes.  "It's not a big 
truck. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if 
they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's 
going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts 
of material, enormous amounts of material."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE


On 3/16/2018 3:35 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.

Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

[Keefe John]

Upgrade browser or GTFO. :)


On 3/16/2018 2:11 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:
I can't speak for your customers, but we 100% require a modern browser 
for Sonar due to similar requirements, and it has yet to be an issue. 
I think the days of people squatting on Internet Explorer 6 are over 
for technical users. In the extremely rare cases that someone is using 
an older browser, asking them to update has never been met with any 
resistance.


On 3/14/2018 6:49 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

A bit of a survey here

A couple of features I'm looking at for current/future products would 
be much easier to implement using a certain feature found only in 
relatively new web browsers, aka, Chrome/Firefox/Edge updated within 
the last year.


One specific browser feature I'm looking at is webassembly.  Various 
tools out there indicate that around 87% of the installed/active 
browsers on the internet are recent enough for native support.   Most 
of the browsers gained support for this feature early to mid last 
year.  With autoupdates being the rule instead of the exception, 
anyone on a recent auto-updating web browser should support this.  
I'm mostly concerned about 'the rest'.


Support for the older browsers is possible, but it adds a level of 
complexity (specifically a level of testing) which I would prefer not 
to do if I could get away without it.


To be clear:  Almost all of the functionality of the upcoming 
products won't require these functions.  A specific example of 
something that might require this is setting up the scripting 
functionality as I'm looking at various technologies which would work 
best if I could run a chunk of webassembly code in the browser as 
part of the code editor. However, other than editing a script, the 
rest of the functionality would work fine.


Thoughts?

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Re: [AFMUG] Expenses

[Keefe John]

Did you hurt it on the job?

Keefe


On 3/14/2018 4:52 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

So I got to thinking about something today.

Pretty much anything needed to run the business you can expense.

What about a surgery?  Being the principle owner of a small shop I have to be 
able to work. If without a surgery (say rotator cuff of something) the business 
won’t run - is there a way to expense that?

Just like I can expense PPE, or switches?

Or a health savings account?  What creative options do I have?

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt - rese

[Keefe John]

This has been or in beta for awhile. It works well, especially on uplink.

Keefe

On March 8, 2018 8:37:05 AM CST, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:
>Custom code to better nagivate interference released today in airmax ac
>products
>
>I don't remember seeing this in the beta line...anyone played with it?
>
>Sent from my smartphone

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Re: [AFMUG] fiber cost per home directional and pole attach

[Keefe John]

I've seen $3500 - $6500 per home passed, depending on what you are doing.

Keefe

On March 6, 2018 12:44:43 AM CST, TJ Trout  wrote:
>I'm looking at venturing into fiber, I've done enough research and
>bugged
>most of you on the list that I think I have enough knowledge to get
>going
>(and be dangerous).
>
>I'm looking at two options for our area,
>
>1. Service newer subdivisions of houses that are currently served by
>cable
>and dsl with speeds up to 1G in certain areas, average is about 50mbps,
>this would be an all directional drill job underground.
>
>What is a good cost per ft, or cost per house passed for drilling,
>conduit
>and fiber?
>
>2. Service the older side of town that has mostly overhead utilities by
>signing an attachment agreement with the local power company, much
>lower
>deployment cost and generally a more 'under served' area but also a
>lower
>income area, using almost 100% pole attachments.
>
>What is a good cost per ft or house passed (these are all small
>1000-2000ft2 homes with small parcels) for cable, and pole attachment
>fee's, lashing, etc?
>
>I'm looking at PON but may go AE depending on some factors
>
>Anyone bored enough to throw some advice my way?
>
>Thank you!
>
>TJ Trout

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Re: [AFMUG] Typical Cell Tower bandwidth requirement

[Keefe John]

We still see T1s and no fiber at some rural sites.

Keefw

On March 2, 2018 11:04:40 AM CST, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>We are technically rural but in reality we are high density suburban.  
>
>From: Mathew Howard 
>Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 9:14 AM
>To: af 
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Typical Cell Tower bandwidth requirement
>
>I would've guessed they'd want more like 200-300meg at most cell
>towers, but 100meg in a rural area really doesn't surprise me.
>
>
>On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
> wrote:
>
>I was talking to a Spectrum employee yesterday as he was installing a
>1gig fiber circuit for me and he started talking about how un-common it
>was to be seeing a 1 gig DIA circuit installed so i said well what
>about the cell phone towers, don't those all have a couple gigs to them
>and he said. "Oh no those usually only have 100meg fiber feeds to
>them." I was like whoa, thats all? And he said "yeah all the Sprint,
>T-mobile, and At towers that he's been to are all like 100meg and
>he's like usually the Verizon ones are about 300meg circuits." 
>
>Does that really sound possible that a cell tower is only using that
>much bandwidth? We are pretty rural here county population is only
>45,000 and the city populations are only about 12,000. Can this really
>be true? And if so why can't a WISP sell a backup circuit to a cell
>tower with some Air Fiber equipment?

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Re: [AFMUG] [OT] outbound ACH

[Keefe John]

Most large banks have web based ACH portals but you have to pay a monthly fee 
for it. 

Keefe

On March 2, 2018 10:17:57 AM CST, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>We used to have this capability with Zions.  
>
>We are getting it going again, but have not yet tested it.  We are
>supposed to go to the local branch and do the first one there to make
>sure it goes right or if it doesn’t they can help troubleshoot.  
>
>From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 12:16 AM
>To: af 
>Subject: [AFMUG] [OT] outbound ACH
>
>I on a somewhat regular basis (several times a year) need to be able to
>originate a US ACH payment to a vendor.   My bank charges way too much
>in my opinion for this functionality, and it's a pain since we have to
>fill out forms and send them to them and they enter the data manually,
>and on and on.  More and more vendors we deal with don't want to deal
>with Cash/Check and many won't accept credit card payments, and of
>course they can't originate (pull) the payment either. 
>
>I've been hoping to find a bank and/or service provider which would
>allow me to just enter ACH transfer information online and have it
>happen for a reasonable fee.  I'm open to various options, including
>opening an account with a bank (assuming that is permitted based on our
>location in Montana), or using some other reasonable option.
>
>So far, the only solutions I've found are either prohibitively
>expensive, or require something we can't provide (i.e. some cash
>management products require a minimum balance commitment or a very
>large monthly fee).
>
>Anyone come across something which might fit the bill?
>
>-- 
>
>  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
>
>   Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>
> 

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Re: [AFMUG] CLEC Disputes

[Keefe John]

There are companies who'll do this for you.

Keefe

On March 2, 2018 8:32:01 AM CST, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>Any of you CLECs ever dispute charges on your invoices? How far back
>are you allowed to go? 
>
>
>
>
>
>- 
>Mike Hammett 
>Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>
>Midwest Internet Exchange 
>
>The Brothers WISP 

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Re: [AFMUG] what happenned to white space?

[Keefe John]

Microsoft and Connect Americans Now are pushing it hard. Right now there's not 
many equipment manufacturers and the equipment is very expensive. None of the 
big guys want to put money into developing new hardware due to regulatory 
uncertainty.

Keefe

On March 1, 2018 8:34:21 PM CST, Steve Jones  wrote:
>This was supposed to be like putting a monkey in shoes, but then it
>went
>silent, is it essentially a dead duck or is there still something
>happenning?

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Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

[Keefe John]

That's a good point but I think they are using some DBII 4.9 certified card.

Keefe


On 3/1/2018 4:57 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:


The first problem with this is the system probably isn’t even legal.  
Mikrotik doesn’t have any certifications in 4.9Ghz, let alone 
high-power mask.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
*Sent:* Thursday, March 1, 2018 2:52 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

and it never will.   But science and politicians don’t seem to go 
together very well.


Mark



On Mar 1, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com 
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote:


There's a whole county in Wisconsin who's trying to get 4.9 ghz 
Mikrotik's to service mobile police cars.  They've been working on it 
for the better part of 7 years and have invested over a million 
dollars into the project.  It still doesn't work.


Keefe

On 3/1/2018 2:05 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

I liked when the lieutenant at the Toledo police department called
us up and threatened to come out and shut down our 2.4 AP’s
because we were supposedly interfering with their ill conceived
plan to use WiFi to communicate with police cars all over town.

Pretty laughable given that we didn’t have anything in their
jurisdiction - or even any 2.4 in use.

Mark



On Mar 1, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Down south they call it "All hat, and no cattle."

bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/1/2018 8:51 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Yeah, it would be nice to see a ruling to stop this from
happening again in the future... but my guess is that it's
really just an empty threat, and he has no intention of
actually suing anybody.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

I think this is worth pushing to the nth. I like caselaw,
fresh caselaw that stiffens historic caselaw. I would really
like to see at the end of the day, the letter recipients
divvying up airebeams assets with some sanctions against the
attorneys office. We should do a gofundme in the industry for
the recipients to afford the litigation, no settlement, no
dismissal, make it get to a ruling.

where johnny Cochran

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Mathew Howard
<mhoward...@gmail.com <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I wonder how often this kind of thing works to just scare
people off though... I assume they'd eventually lose an actual
lawsuit, but even if the new guys know that, there's a good
chance that they're not going to want to go through the whole
mess of getting sued, and just try to keep out of their way.

Personally, I think asking nicely to try to avoid interfering
with the stuff you have up would be a lot more effective...

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:48 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Any local judge would be preempted by FCC.

*From:*Steve Jones

*Sent:*Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:20 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

Yeah, that letter isnt about fcc stuff, its about willfully
impeding and incumbants operations. This fcc talk os what
theyre probably expecting the people to focus on, but thats
not their target. This could be interesting to see play out,
hopefully it does end up in court just to get fresh caselaw.
The new operators in the area may suffer a bit if injunctions
are in play, but if they weather it, theyll win, probably get
some time and trouble dough in their pockets too.

On Mar 1, 2018 7:42 AM, "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com
<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> wrote:

They can't stop you, but they can sue you! Can sue anybody
for anything in this country right?

In reality, I think the real answer is, the FCC rules on
unlicensed freqs and how a judge might interpret a case
for damages due to lost business due to provable radio
interference, may be two totally different situations.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Send them the Part 15 rules...they can't stop you.

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 28, 2018 9:26 PM, "Rory Conaway"
<r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
wrote:

We

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

[Keefe John]

I mis-read your email and thought you said 'come shoot down' your 2.4 
ghz APs.  That would have been even more hilarious.


Keefe


On 3/1/2018 2:58 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

What was your response to that threat?

Mark Radabaugh wrote:
I liked when the lieutenant at the Toledo police department called us 
up and threatened to come out and shut down our 2.4 AP’s because we 
were supposedly interfering with their ill conceived plan to use WiFi 
to communicate with police cars all over town.


Pretty laughable given that we didn’t have anything in their 
jurisdiction - or even any 2.4 in use.


Mark

On Mar 1, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Bill Prince > wrote:


Down south they call it "All hat, and no cattle."


bp


On 3/1/2018 8:51 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, it would be nice to see a ruling to stop this from happening 
again in the future... but my guess is that it's really just an 
empty threat, and he has no intention of actually suing anybody.


On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:


    I think this is worth pushing to the nth. I like caselaw, fresh
    caselaw that stiffens historic caselaw. I would really like to
    see at the end of the day, the letter recipients divvying up
    airebeams assets with some sanctions against the attorneys
    office. We should do a gofundme in the industry for the
    recipients to afford the litigation, no settlement, no
    dismissal, make it get to a ruling.

    where johnny Cochran

    On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Mathew Howard
    > wrote:

    I wonder how often this kind of thing works to just scare
    people off though... I assume they'd eventually lose an
    actual lawsuit, but even if the new guys know that, there's
    a good chance that they're not going to want to go through
    the whole mess of getting sued, and just try to keep out of
    their way.

    Personally, I think asking nicely to try to avoid
    interfering with the stuff you have up would be a lot more
    effective...

    On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:48 AM, > wrote:

    Any local judge would be preempted by FCC.
    *From:* Steve Jones
    *Sent:* Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:20 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet
    Yeah, that letter isnt about fcc stuff, its about
    willfully impeding and incumbants operations. This fcc
    talk os what theyre probably expecting the people to
    focus on, but thats not their target. This could be
    interesting to see play out, hopefully it does end up in
    court just to get fresh caselaw. The new operators in
    the area may suffer a bit if injunctions are in play,
    but if they weather it, theyll win, probably get some
    time and trouble dough in their pockets too.
    On Mar 1, 2018 7:42 AM, "Chris Fabien"
     wrote:

    They can't stop you, but they can sue you! Can sue
    anybody for anything in this country right?
    In reality, I think the real answer is, the FCC
    rules on unlicensed freqs and how a judge might
    interpret a case for damages due to lost business
    due to provable radio interference, may be two
    totally different situations.
    On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza
     wrote:

    Send them the Part 15 rules...they can't stop you.

    Jaime Solorza
    On Feb 28, 2018 9:26 PM, "Rory Conaway"
     wrote:

    We cover one of the areas with Airebeam and
    we can’t install over their old customers
    fast enough.  Ken is backed up at least 3
    times what we are backed up.


    Rory


    *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
    Behalf Of *Steve Jones
    *Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:12 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this
    letter yet


    all you need to know about this outfit


    " Today is a Great Day!  I cancelled my
    Airebeam account and switched to another
    company. This company has the worst customer
    service. They also have horrible internet
    service. They are very unresponsive when

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

[Keefe John]

There's a whole county in Wisconsin who's trying to get 4.9 ghz 
Mikrotik's to service mobile police cars.  They've been working on it 
for the better part of 7 years and have invested over a million dollars 
into the project.  It still doesn't work.


Keefe


On 3/1/2018 2:05 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
I liked when the lieutenant at the Toledo police department called us 
up and threatened to come out and shut down our 2.4 AP’s because we 
were supposedly interfering with their ill conceived plan to use WiFi 
to communicate with police cars all over town.


Pretty laughable given that we didn’t have anything in their 
jurisdiction - or even any 2.4 in use.


Mark

On Mar 1, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Bill Prince > wrote:


Down south they call it "All hat, and no cattle."


bp


On 3/1/2018 8:51 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, it would be nice to see a ruling to stop this from happening 
again in the future... but my guess is that it's really just an 
empty threat, and he has no intention of actually suing anybody.


On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:


I think this is worth pushing to the nth. I like caselaw, fresh
caselaw that stiffens historic caselaw. I would really like to
see at the end of the day, the letter recipients divvying up
airebeams assets with some sanctions against the attorneys
office. We should do a gofundme in the industry for the
recipients to afford the litigation, no settlement, no
dismissal, make it get to a ruling.

where johnny Cochran

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Mathew Howard
> wrote:

I wonder how often this kind of thing works to just scare
people off though... I assume they'd eventually lose an
actual lawsuit, but even if the new guys know that, there's
a good chance that they're not going to want to go through
the whole mess of getting sued, and just try to keep out of
their way.

Personally, I think asking nicely to try to avoid
interfering with the stuff you have up would be a lot more
effective...

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:48 AM, > wrote:

Any local judge would be preempted by FCC.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:20 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet
Yeah, that letter isnt about fcc stuff, its about
willfully impeding and incumbants operations. This fcc
talk os what theyre probably expecting the people to
focus on, but thats not their target. This could be
interesting to see play out, hopefully it does end up in
court just to get fresh caselaw. The new operators in
the area may suffer a bit if injunctions are in play,
but if they weather it, theyll win, probably get some
time and trouble dough in their pockets too.
On Mar 1, 2018 7:42 AM, "Chris Fabien"
 wrote:

They can't stop you, but they can sue you! Can sue
anybody for anything in this country right?
In reality, I think the real answer is, the FCC
rules on unlicensed freqs and how a judge might
interpret a case for damages due to lost business
due to provable radio interference, may be two
totally different situations.
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:

Send them the Part 15 rules...they can't stop you.

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 28, 2018 9:26 PM, "Rory Conaway"
 wrote:

We cover one of the areas with Airebeam and
we can’t install over their old customers
fast enough.  Ken is backed up at least 3
times what we are backed up.


Rory


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this
letter yet


all you need to know about this outfit


" Today is a Great Day!  I cancelled my
Airebeam account and switched to another
company. This company has the worst customer
service. They also have horrible internet
 

Re: [AFMUG] Airebeam is trying to sue their competitors

[Keefe John]

I wonder how many people emailed or called this guy now. He probably woke up to 
an inbox of hate mail.
Keefe

On March 1, 2018 9:59:21 AM CST, Kurt Fankhauser  
wrote:
>Part-15 has no first come first claim basis for rights to any
>unlicensed
>frequency. Is their lawyer that dumb?
>
>On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:14 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I can’t remember of Steve Coran is on this list or not.  If not you
>ought
>> to forward this to him.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:05 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Airebeam is trying to sue their competitors
>>
>> I actually tried to get my FCC attorney to agree that we could
>enforce
>> something like this about 15 years ago.
>> He told me I was pissin’ in the wind.
>>
>> Part 15 and the doctrine of the “law of the commons” were again me.
>>
>> *From:* Rory Conaway
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:55 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Airebeam is trying to sue their competitors
>>
>>
>> I thought I would rename this appropriately.  WISPA needs to get
>ahead of
>> this quickly so it doesn’t spread to every law office that thinks
>they are
>> going to make buck intimidating their competitors.  2 WISPS I know in
>> Arizona got these today.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> *“Yesterdays Home Runs don’t win todays games!”*
>>
>>
>>

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet

[Keefe John]

We have a guy in Wisconsin who tries things like this.

KJ


On 2/28/2018 9:57 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Not sure what they think they can enforce on unlicensed frequencies..

On 2/28/2018 9:39 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:


�

�

Two guys in Arizona got them but my guess is these people are just 
fishing.� I�ve got my attorneys looking it over and I�m going 
to make an inquiry to the Attorney General�s office tomorrow.


�

*Rory Conaway **� Triad Wireless �**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

*�*

/�Yesterdays Home Runs don�t win todays games!�/

�



--
Simon Westlake | CEO
simon@sonar.software
(702) 447-1247
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Keefe John]

Yes.

On February 26, 2018 8:47:12 AM CST, Colin Stanners  wrote:
>Airfiber5 LTU. Looks like a CPE?
>
>On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:30 AM, FCC ID Alert  wrote:
>
>> A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks,
>Inc. for
>> New Equipment.
>> See FCC ID SWX-AF5LTU
>>
>
>> Equipment Authorized: Digital Transmission Radio
>>
>>

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

[Keefe John]

Unless you're getting a short wave most long-distance layer2 connections 
are going to be MPLS over layer3 anyways.  So how's that different than 
a VPN or GRE tunnel?


Keefe


On 2/23/2018 3:56 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
That is not by choice.  The content providers all have a different 
tolerance as to how their product is piped around.  RealChoice could 
drop it and probably ship the product over the public internet and 
never get caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get 
caught.


Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I 
was trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN 
over VPN (silly, right)  over the public internet.  Some of them were 
OK with it.


-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private 
line requirement.


On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley  
wrote:


Hi,

I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If 
so, are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the 
wholesale provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, 
experiences, etc. on either provider?


Thanks,
_
Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fiber Internet

Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

[Keefe John]

I'd like to see a YoutubeTV reseller program.  Has anyone inquired?

Keefe


On 2/23/2018 2:39 PM, Clint Wiley wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, are 
any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale provider? Can 
any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. on either provider?

Thanks,
_
Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fiber Internet

Re: [AFMUG] FCC licensing common carrier or non-common carrier?

[Keefe John]

How much does that cost anyways?

Keefe


On 2/21/2018 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
So I'm in the process of applying for the non-exclusive nationwide 
license that we apparently need for e-band links... as a plain 
ordinary WISP, should I be checking the "common carrier" or 
"non-common carrier" check box?

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

[Keefe John]

Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list?

On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the 
>not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive.
>
>Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to 
>pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>Paul, what is the current status of our deficit?

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Coredial

[Keefe John]

Vitelity and Bandwidth.com for DIDs and termination.


On 2/16/2018 11:40 AM, Dave wrote:
Just wanted to see what everybody is doing for voip and see if anyone 
has heard of CoreDial.



--

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[Keefe John]

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the spammers found us.


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Re: [AFMUG] Jeff Evans query?

[Keefe John]

If you're giving huge discounts and drop shipping why even have 
distributors?  They add no value to your product.



On 12/5/2017 4:32 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I'm getting really sick of distributors asking me for a deep discount, 
extended length net terms, and to drop ship all of their orders to 
their customers.  There's a reason why we haven't gone down this path.




On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Steve Jones > wrote:


Distributors that dont maintain accurate web based on hand/out of
stock are the devils condom. I hate them. The only thing worse is
the ones that lie and you get an order in with a "drop ship from
mfg" F those guys, they take your money right quick, thats for sure

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:27 AM, > wrote:

We offer dry storage, sequestered inventory and order
fulfillment to all distributors so they can stock at our
warehouse, ship from our warehouse, and keep from paying
double freight (for the galvanized steel parts).  Some take
advantage of this and some don't.

-Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jeff Evans query?

We try, our restock level is approx equivalent to a 30 day
inventory, but we
are constantly having runs on one particular part or another
and then when a
distributor wants something dropped we don't have it and they
attempt to
blame us.

The main reason to use a two tier distribution network is so
that the
distributors have inventory, not us.  That is how they add
value.  Otherwise
I would just sell direct.

We build to forecast and to order but the channel that stocks
is the channel
that gets the sales.

Some of our distributors are much better than than others with
this.

-Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:22 AM
To: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jeff Evans query?

Wouldn't this be on you to make sure you have proper stock
levels to
absorb the 20-30 day time frames?

I know there have been times when I've waited to get mounts
because they
were drop shipping but "we didn't know when the supplier would
have the
parts in".

On 12/5/17 11:14 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com 
wrote:

I got a note from a guy saying that Jeff Evans was looking
for stock on our tower mount products.
Some of our distributors stock, some don’t. We have most
of the stuff on our e-commerce site but it is MSRP.  You
get discounts from going to the distributors.
Not sure if there was a specific product in question or
not.  I don’t have visibility into the inventory levels of
my distributors so I can never answer as to what they may
or may not have.  If you hit me off list I can give an
opinion as to who may have them.
I will say this: those distributors that do stock sell
much more than those that don’t and expect us to drop ship
for them.  We may not always have the stuff depending on
production cycles.  We have a huge unknown in the cycle
due to the galvanization. Sometimes the company that dips
the parts can turn them around in 2-3 days, other times it
is 20 or 30 days.






--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com 
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance premium went 25k up for one guy.

[Keefe John]

What code are they rating your tower climber as?  How much are you 
paying this guy?  WC is a percentage of actual wages.


Keefe


On 11/27/2017 4:18 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
in colorado workman's comp is handled by a quasi government 
monopoly/private provider, they are the only entity that can provide 
in our state.


they have us report what percentage of time per year the employee does 
each role.  so our main tower climber is maybe 30% (probably less tho) 
tower work with the other 70% in office or other jobs etc.  think 
about how many hours (out of 2080 work hours per year) are actually on 
a tower.  As a WISP it's a lot less hours/year (since we do so many 
random things) compared to say a guy who's only job is going to AT 
towers all day, everyday, year round.


-sean


On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Sam Lambie > wrote:


What/Who do you guys use for tower climbers and workmans comp to
cover them in case of an accident?
Sam

-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*

Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598  Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

[Keefe John]

Spend a little more and get this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SM-FTTH-Tester-KOMSHINE-QX50-S-OTDR-1310-1550nm-32-30dB-as-EXFO-Fiber-OTDR-w-VFL/112386318451?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D188f138388b343b8b752d0f580216517%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D112354147194



On 6/14/2017 3:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Nope.  We never bought it though.


-- Original Message --
From: "Paul McCall" >
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Sent: 6/14/2017 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com


Was there any feedback on this Adam?

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett

*Sent:* Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:25 AM
*To:* Animal Farm >
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

http://www.fs.com/products/34153.html

What is the catch?  Seems uber cheap.

The dynamic range is low, but good enough for my purposes.  Only 
single mode wavelengths, but I don't need a multimode OTDR anyway.

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CTO Opening in Large WISP in Nigeria

[Keefe John]

Does it come with a $1,000,000 bonus from a Nigerian prince? All you have to do 
is send your bank account information.


On May 19, 2017 4:35:52 AM CDT, Ken Patrick  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Please find job description for Large WISP based in Lagos, Nigeria.
>We have been covered in Techcrunch
>
>and Muniwireless
>.
>We also have openings for Operations folks with  less experience than
>below.
>
>
>
>*Chief Technology Officer – CTO*
>
>TIZETI Inc. is looking for a Chief Technical Officer to work in Lagos,
>Nigeria
>
>
>*ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES*
>
>· Monitoring new technologies and assessing their potential to
>become new products or services, Overseeing the selection of projects
>to
>insure that they have the potential to add value to the company,
>Explain
>company products and future plans to the trade media
>
>· Participating in government and industry groups
>
>· Integrating technology-based activities into the corporate
>strategy
>
>· Make decisions about which technologies are most likely to
>generate the highest rate of return
>
>· Deal with strategic decisions about the future direction of
>the
>company
>
>· Developing new products based on new technology
>
>· Improve our core Unlimited Internet Service offering
>
>· Must be able to communicate clearly and effectively with
>people
>from all types of backgrounds.
>
>*Requirements*
>
>This is an executive-level, highly responsible position directing
>TIZETI
>Inc. activities of communications, computer operations, systems
>management,
>and network administration and programming functions.
>
>· Minimum 7 years’ experience in the Wireless ISP or Telecom
>field
>and role in Senior Management.
>
>· Experience with Cisco Networking equipment
>
>· Experience with Ubiquiti and Cambium based Wireless Network
>
>· Experience running licensed and Mitigating interference in
>Unlicensed Frequencies wireless networks
>
>· Experience with MicroWave and mmWave networks
>
>· Working Knowledge of Linux
>
>· Knowledge of PHP is an Asset
>
>· Willing to work out of Lagos, Nigeria
>
>
>
>*APPLICATION PROCESS*
>
>Please send resume and cover letter to car...@tizeti.com
> or reply
>to
>me.
>
>
>
>*About TIZETI*
>
>TIZETI Inc. dba Wifi.com.ng is the Wireless “ISP for Africa”. We are
>backed
>by Y Combinator and are leveraging the large wireless capacity
>available
>with Wi-fi and plummeting cost of solar panels to create a low
>capex/opex
>network of owned & operated towers to offer disruptive,
>customer-friendly
>pricing for unlimited internet. Our coverage is in Lagos, Nigeria and
>we
>are expanding to the South South Region as well as other cities in West
>Africa.

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Re: [AFMUG] Openfire/trillian

[Keefe John]

Slack or rocketchat

On May 11, 2017 4:28:45 AM CDT, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>Slack. Slack slack slack. SLACK!
>
>:P
>
>(Or Ryver!)
>
>- Josh
>
>On May 10, 2017 10:46 PM, "Steve Jones" 
>wrote:
>
>> I finally talked the boss into converting ro trillian from spark for
>our
>> openfire server. I actually purchased the trillian client livetime
>licence
>> for myself its so perfect. Probably would move the whole unified to
>> trillian if openfire wasnt so free and easy to manage. The only
>drawback to
>> trillian, aside from not owning the server for free is mack addresses
>> defalt to emojis iunless you configure the client otherwise
>>

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Re: [AFMUG] Alpha FXM2000

[Keefe John]

They have a large transformer so they might hum a bit. The battery connector is 
an Anderson connector.

Keefe

On May 5, 2017 5:49:23 PM CDT, Jason McKemie  
wrote:
>Just got one of these new / open box. I have a couple of questions
>though.
>
>Do they normally produce a humming sound while powered up?
>
>Is the battery connector something standard? I don't have the one that
>is
>supposed to come with it.

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Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?

[Keefe John]

It would be nice if they had winbox built in too.

Keefe

On May 4, 2017 9:13:20 AM CDT, Simon Westlake  wrote:
>https://mremoteng.org/
>
>On 5/3/2017 9:41 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> I use the shit out of putty (and winSCP) I'm a GUI gimp, I will own 
>> that. Is there any better set of tools for the windows environment?
>> Not Complaining at all, or looking to change, I get a ton done with 
>> these two applications, just curious if there are even better
>solutions
>
>-- 
>Simon Westlake
>Email: simon@sonar.software
>Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
>---
>Sonar Software Inc
>The future of ISP billing and OSS
>https://sonar.software

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Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

[Keefe John]

Nobody will ever be as fast you. You can hope for half as fast.

Keefe

On April 23, 2017 6:54:48 PM CDT, "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" 
 wrote:
>I am in the exact same boat. New guy is slow as cold molasses.
>
>My installs are normally 2 hours. Maybe 3.
>His are 4 or 5.  So his days are 10 hours (yay overtime).
>
>When we work together, it seems that he just has his head up his butt
>and doesn't realize what step comes next.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Jim
>
>Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> Original message 
>From: Brandon Yuchasz 
>Date: 4/23/17 6:37 PM (GMT-06:00)
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
>
>I was going to type a long PC type post about this (which I did anyway
>sorry) . But instead I am going to just ask how you guys go about
>trying to teach / train a new installer to work faster?
>
>We have a guy right now that was hired to be an installer with other
>duties as assigned. He is good at the other duties and has a good
>understanding of networking, computers and even RF. The problem is that
>he is very slow on installs and the primary job he was hired to do.
>
>I spent quite a bit of time with him last week trying to figure out
>where the speed issues were coming from. So I took him on site surveys
>ahead of time with me and we laid out the entire installs during the
>survey. Install here, wire down here, across here in through wall here
>and terminate. You could see the tower from these sites so hanging and
>tuning the radio was a breeze.
>
>I sent him out on two installs the day after that. First one I
>considered a hard install. The second one easy.  They took him over  10
>hours not counting drive time.
>
>I spent the next morning doing site checks on them with the customers
>permission. Both customers were happy with him and his install and not
>a single thing on the install was done incorrectly I took another
>installer with me and asked him to run the time frame in his head. He
>came up to 3 hours for each install. So had I but we are both
>experienced.
>
>So I talked really briefly with the new guy about getting faster and
>then took him to an install I had surveyed myself. Ran him through the
>entire install. Radio here, wire down here….. in and terminate. Install
>router. I left the more experienced guy with him to answer questions
>but told him to not physically help and explained to the new guy that
>if he had questions to ask because the other guy is there to help him
>figure out a faster process and  would be talking with me after the
>install about ways to speed up the process so we can help him. I should
>mention the experienced guy is a supervisor so no hard feelings should
>be had here. I left him at 9:00
>
>I was thinking that maybe I was being unrealistic in my time frames on
>installs since normally I have a helper on my installs and we knock out
>three to four a day. I felt like I got my installs done in 3 hours max
>when I was alone but never really timed them. So when I left the new
>guy I drove a half hour to what I considered a hard install and did it
>alone. Was done at 12:30 and driving back to check on the new guy. 
>When I got there he was just about done with the install but the truck
>was spread around the driveway ( not throwing stones I have been known
>to do this). So he was going past hour 4 at this point with paperwork
>and packing the truck he was going to be at 5 for sure.  I stepped in
>did the paperwork and quietly asked the other guy to pack up the truck
>some.  This was done for selfish reasons ( its Friday and I have a
>family) and also because we had a  between 1 and 3 to hit for the final
>install of the day.
>
>Grabbed subway. Scoffed it down. I bought and we headed to the last
>job.
>
>I had the supervisor guy in my truck and we have worked together a lot
>100s of installs together. So on the way to the install which he had
>never seen I prep him on it. Big ladder ( 32”) up on the gable on the
>back of the house.  Take the little giant around to the deck so I can
>access the roof.  And it’s a tripod install. So when we pull into the
>drive I point to the back of the house “that’s the back” he says okay
>and I go to ring the doorbell and say hello.  He has the new guy with
>him so he told him to help with the ladder and then instructed him to
>start an rj45 on a wire. When I walked out the ladder was up and the
>supervisor was at the top screwing down the tripod. I grabbed the mast,
>mounted the antenna and put the wireless unit on it to tune and
>scurried up the small ladder and up the roof. Ill make this short. We
>hung the gear and tuned and marked the tripod and I went down and he
>had just finished the RJ45.  In his defense he had  put one on a 3 foot
>scrap piece that he had confused with the rest of the wire in the box( 
>I don’t know) so this was his second end. Anyway we just ran the job
>and he stayed out of the way. 

Re: [AFMUG] subpoena for non used IP

[Keefe John]

You should certainly bill them your standard hourly rate for any 
research you have to do.  That's what all the big guys do.



On 4/12/2017 10:24 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
We got a subpeona for one of our IPs, it is in our ARIN allocation, 
but has never been assigned or live that I can tell.
I assume malicious actors have a tool to look at IP space for dormant 
numbers, if it historically has not been active its better for 
spoofing? Is this the case or is this an instance of watching too much 
NCIS?


On a side note, this request was not from FBI or DHS, it was a 
different .gov entity,  They initiated contact, we verified externally 
they were actually government and who they say they are. Ran it past 
our Lawyer. The odd thing was, they wanted our Tax ID before they 
proceeded since we can generate a bill for our time on the issue. This 
completely red flagged it for me, but apparently this is not uncommon?

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

[Keefe John]

Busy and expensive.


On 3/30/2017 1:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I am trying to save the money on building my own stuff. But yeah, a 
nice lean model with best practices and procedures will work both 
ways.  Most fiber contractors I know are very busy.

*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team
As time goes on, it appears that this will be a great opportunity for 
someone to come up with a model to do fiber build outs as a service to 
others. If you can figure out where all the time goes and eliminate 
that part of it , you might be able to make some real $$$.

-bp


On Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:56 AM, Chuck McCown  
wrote:



But I do not want to pay them to make a profit doing this.  I want it 
done at cost.
*From:* Josh Reynolds 


*Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:52 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 


*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team
There are companies that already do this. They contract for 
CenturyLink, AT, Time Warner, etc. We hired one to do all of our 
outside plant.
Lots of  to be made if you do it right and have a good crew. They 
always hire local labor for ditch digging, but their splice crews and 
management are continuous.
On Mar 30, 2017 12:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" > 
wrote:


I am considering building a construction team that can drop into a
small town or large subdivision, install fiber and move on.
Something where I own the construction equipment and keep labor
costs low. Want to identify the minimum equipment necessary and
the methods of construction to provide the best value.
HDD with mud truck
Do we need a vacuum excavator?
Mini excavator
One of these drop plows.  Whoever said their guy can do 5-8 homes
per day yeah that one (to lazy to search who it was).
What to use for hand holes?
Plastic hand holes?
What are the best values for splice cases?
Perhaps try UBNT GPON. Can always throw it in the ditch if it does
not work.
So a best practices/FTTH in a box schedule of equipment and
methods is needed.  From that I will look at the ROI needed from
the equipment as well as the labor costs to estimate the costs to
do a subdivision.
From that we will look at the ROI on a competitive ARPU to see if
an area is worth doing.
I keep getting asked to do this, so I guess I better do this.

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix WS-12-250-dc - spares available

[Keefe John]

what kind of port sensitivity issues did you see?


On 3/29/2017 1:32 PM, Paul McCall wrote:


If anybody is looking for these, we have 5 of them we are selling, 4 
opened, new in box, 1 open box (may not be original box) - $ 360 each.


I mention this before Friday because I know people were looking for 
them and Netonix is out of stock directly.


We settled on the S16�s up the tower and been happy with those, as the 
S16s don�t seem to have the port sensitivity issues of the Netonix.   
For our simple VLAN needs, the S16s work.


Anyway, there are (5) units total if someone wants them.  Paypal 
preferred, but will take CC as well.  Or overnight me a check.  Or 
chickens, if you have like 500 of them.  Or maybe less than 500 if 
they look like this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi5J-jhq6c0


Paul

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON

[Keefe John]

How does it compare to UBNT new uFiber OLT?

8-Port GPON Optical Line Terminal

8 Gigabit Passive Optical Network Ports
Supports up to 1024 Clients (128 per PON Port)
Up to 2.488 Gbps TX and 1.244 Gbps RX
Supports up to 20 km GPON Links
Two 1G/10G SFP+ Ethernet Ports
Flexible Layer 2/3 Management Features
FastEthernet port for management
Console serial port for management


On 3/22/2017 5:02 PM, PE R wrote:
If anyone has any questions regarding ZTE products, to include our 
GPON, TDD LTE or transport products, please feel free to contact me.


Best -

Parker Reed
Director of Sales
ZTE USA

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

[Keefe John]

I'd buy it.

On March 21, 2017 9:24:21 AM CDT, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>Kinda.  Did a session at AnimalFarm about  it.  Not sure if I will
>release it or not.  I have adapters for DragonWave, Remec, Exalt and
>SAF dishes.  But there did not seem to be much enthusiasm.  
>
>From: Josh Baird 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:21 AM
>To: af@afmug.com 
>Subject: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?
>
>Hiya Chuck, 
>
>I seem to remember you talking about announcing something new for the
>AF11x?  Did this ever happen?  Any other new products that were
>announced at WISPAmerica this year?
>
>Josh

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Re: [AFMUG] Speaking of banks and banking

[Keefe John]

I dont think banks check signatures period.


On 3/18/2017 6:38 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:

It became such and issue for me with another company i was involved with that 
we ended up using a service that (conveniently or ironically) the bank offers 
to protect against this kind of stuff.  The name varies bank to bank but 
basically when you do check runs, you upload that information to the bank and 
only those checks will be honoured and within a certain timeframe.it was 
quite expensive but having to deal with fraud issues all the time is too …



On Mar 17, 2017, at 11:31 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Also, I found out if you have a double signature requirement on checks and 
someone sends one through with only one signature, the bank does not give a 
crap.

-Original Message- From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 2:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speaking of banks and banking

I believe you have about 60 days maximum to file claims.  After that you are 
basically screwed with the way the laws are written.  I tell you this from 
experience.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 1:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speaking of banks and banking

Yeah, the one guy that signed his own name to one of the checks signed it with 
a decent enough signature that the graphologists can match it up to many other 
examples of his signature that are available in public records.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speaking of banks and banking

Yeah, I'm guessing if they wrote checks to themselves then you know exactly who 
to make a claim against.  I'm sure Chuck has weighed the options though.




Surely that's some kind of crime with a statute of limitations of more
than
60 days.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius

[Keefe John]

Don't people do background checks anymore?


On 3/14/2017 4:47 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/paul-pazzaglini/internet/paul-pazzaglini-pliinc-pl-career-conman-on-tv-north-carolina-internet-1157880

Guy gets around

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


They screen scraped DR’s brands page.
http://www.doubleradius.com/Wireless-Brands-Overview.html

*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:17 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Cc:* Jason Petrillo
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius
Looks like they are distributors of Last Mile Gear too.
https://www.pliinc.us/products
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:16 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius
I just found out he is one of our distributors too!
McCown Technology McCown Technology products are designed for the
specifc purpose of enhancing Motorola Canopy and Trango wireless
equipment.
Wow.  I did not know that.
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius
http://northcarolina.arrests.org/Arrests/Paul_Pazzaglini_16822148/

*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius
First part was easy. Nice looking house.  Too lazy to figure out
the second half.
*From:* Hardy, Tim
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:02 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius

Google search the company address and then the owner of the
property – enough said.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Head
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:48 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius

There is this...http://www.waveworksinc.com/

Looks like an interesting company but not the same people, obviously.


On 3/14/2017 3:35 PM, Jeremy wrote:

"

/*WaveWorks*//**/- News Alert - The next Generation of
supplier after DoubleRadius

/*WaveWorks*/employees originally worked for DoubleRadius. Due
to the situation of DoubleRadius's sales plunge and their
contract with Ubiquiti being compromised, they may be going
out of business. For that reason we are moving all WISP
customers over to WaveWorks to continue supporting their
requirements. Please contact us for more details: Click here
for More Information



On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jeremy
 wrote:

Yes, I did.  It didn't come to this email address though,
it seemed to be derived from the WISPA list.  I emailed
them about it and they said it is absolutely false.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Chuck McCown
 wrote:

No, it is real.  DR knows about it.  Just trying to
figure out how the email address list was derived.

*From:*Josh Reynolds

*Sent:*Tuesday, March 14, 2017 2:16 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Odd email about Double Radius

I haven't seen it. Are you sure it's not some kind of
malware attack or phishing scam?

On Mar 14, 2017 2:27 PM, "Chuck McCown"
 wrote:

Did anyone receive an odd email about Double
Radius going out of business?  It certainly is not
true.  I think it said something about them losing
UBNT as a product line.  I think I tossed it.
There are others that would like  to see it if
anyone has a copy.

Re: [AFMUG] Outsource Sales

[Keefe John]

How about outsourced outbound sales calls?


On 3/6/2017 10:13 AM, Wireless Administrator wrote:


Over time I�ve seen plenty of discussion about outsourcing technical 
support.


Does anyone have experience outsourcing the sales process?  I�m 
talking about new internet access account  signup process not marketing.


Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] does anyone remember the name of the company that builds heavy duty tripods?

[Keefe John]

Commscope
Baird

On March 4, 2017 4:38:59 PM CST, Rory Conaway  wrote:
>
>
>Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
>4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
>602-426-0542
>r...@triadwireless.net
>www.triadwireless.net
>
>"Optimism is going after Moby Dick in rowboat and taking tartar sauce
>with you."

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Re: [AFMUG] does anyone make a system that lets you do internet over existing rg-6 cable

[Keefe John]

Looks like that thing was built in the 90s.


On 2/22/2017 10:15 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

http://www.c9networks.com/

Full Docsis setup.  Then just throw cable modems on the end.

On 2/22/2017 10:09 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

MOCA adapters and then any switch you want.
*From:* Rory Conaway
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:05 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] does anyone make a system that lets you do 
internet over existing rg-6 cable


I’m looking for similar like a centralized coax switch to do an 
apartment instead of recabling.


*Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net*

*www.triadwireless.net*

**

“The successful man is the one who finds out what is the matter with 
his business before his competitors do.” - Roy L. Smith

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Keefe John]

Yes the GPS sync works. The final firmware was released today.

Keefe

On February 21, 2017 7:07:54 PM CST, Jaime Solorza  
wrote:
>That's new... Now you are a high member of caste system... Unwashed
>masses?
>  Too funny... Not haha funny...
>
>On Feb 21, 2017 1:38 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> We are. But we are also separate and distinct from the unwashed
>masses.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/2017 12:35 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Aghast... Are we not consumers.?
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2017 11:38 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>>
>>> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms
>mean,
>>> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
>>> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is
>Qualcomm
>>> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
>>> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell
>data
>>> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with
>end
>>> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that
>unlicensed
>>> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower
>5 miles
>>> from your house in the country.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-
>>> modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino
>Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ouch…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Af  on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
>>> s...@genias.net>
>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner:
>mimosa.
>>>
>>> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff
>to
>>> make their
>>>
>>> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>

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Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Keefe John]

So they're charging $995.00 for something that likely cost them < $50.  
Now you know their profit margins on radios and other hardware.


Keefe


On 2/17/2017 3:28 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote:
Awesome! Can't wait. We have a bunch of these Medusas going up in the 
near future..



Vlad


On 2/17/2017 3:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

So this looks like as good of a place as any to provide this tidbit:

I finally found the component I was looking for to complete the 
cambium sync design here, and I now have a breadboarded solution to 
sync Medusa (and 450i) via 'cambium sync) here.   Seems to be 
working.   I'm in the process of getting the design on a prototype 
board for the rackmount injector. This *is* going to be more 
expensive than the non-cambium sync version, but for roughly the 
price of just that controller,  you should be able to get the 
rackmount chassis+controller plus either 8 of injection, and a 
syncbox GPS receiver.   For probably around $1200 or so, you should 
be able to get a fully loaded one with 16 ports of sync.


I'm *not* holding this injector for this for reasons I described in 
earlier threads, but add a month or two after WISPAMERICA and this 
should be shipping.


-forrest



On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Vlad Sedov > wrote:


The only reason we got this is to properly sync our Medusa APs
from the base of the tower, and maintain a clean gigabit ethernet
link.
If Forrest had a product that did the same thing, we would be all
over it. Literally every other piece of GPS sync hardware we use
is from PacketFlux.


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 11:09 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

You could also buy all the parts to do the same thing with
PacketFlux gear for a whole lot less than $800... I don't think
the actual cost of building the hardware has much to do with the
price of a CMM

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett
> wrote:

You couldn't write the software for it for $100.

Are you looking at a prototype or a finished product? Link?



-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a bit
more um.. rugged. I can build this for about $100.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make money.


-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" >
To: "af@afmug.com "
>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious,
Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller, a
DC-DC regulator, and a metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with LuCI
web interface, and a module to control the CMM5.

Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad










--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com 
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] Current Market Value

[Keefe John]

I would look at a multiple of estimated post-acquisition EBITA. That's 
what JAB does.



On 2/14/2017 11:37 AM, Steve wrote:

What is the current market value for a WISP?

I've posted this before years ago and it hasn't changed much from my 
experience. Its always been 12-16 months of your average revenue per customer 
(ARPU). It depends on the equipment and all the rest.  We've sold before and we 
know what others have sold for. SO we generally have a good idea what a WISP is 
worth.

Now what if it were done with all the lower cost equipment (Mikrotik, Ubiquiti) 
which is fine in many situations but we have all Cambium?  We'd have to replace 
it all to fit it into our system. In all honesty we'd replace everything and 
probably take a couple years or more to get our return on investment which is 
fine.  But if someone is asking a great deal more it isn't worth it.

There are other factors such as strategic locations. IP space and all the rest. 
  However in our case we are already expanding in that direction and thought 
this would be the quicker path.  We'll spend about the same in the next years 
putting up all new locations and equipment anyway.

What is your opinion on the situation of someone who is asking way way way more 
than what the market dictates?

Re: [AFMUG] More movement in the 28/39GHz bands

[Keefe John]

I think these big carriers are drastically overestimating what they can do with 
this band.

Keefe

On February 6, 2017 9:02:17 PM CST, Rory Conaway  wrote:
>http://www.lightreading.com/mobile/5g/atandt-buys-fibertower-for-5g-spectrum/d/d-id/730026
>
>Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
>4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
>602-426-0542
>r...@triadwireless.net
>www.triadwireless.net
>
>"Baseball - we do not stop playing because we grow old, we grow old
>because we stop playing"

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Netflow

[Keefe John]

nTOP is great.

On February 6, 2017 7:38:28 PM CST, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:
>What are your opinions on Netflow servers/software?
>
>I've been doing some research into using Netflow again.
>Long time ago I used NTOP, but it sucked.
>Not sure if that's changed or not.
>
>Ideally would be a much newer improved interface type system that was
>hosted for a few bucks a month.
>Then I could just sign up and point my Netflow streams to it.
>
>I need one that is geared towards ISPs, not Datacenter/Servers.
>
>I don't care about netflowing and optimizing web sites, I want to
>profile my customer traffic.
>Ideally it would include features necessary for CALIA and law
>enforcement requirements.
>
>If it was also great at syslog management that would be a plus.
>
>The Dude currently sucks for syslog IMO.

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Climbing is Life

[Keefe John]

Study hard, pay $150, take a test.


On 2/6/2017 1:29 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/fly_for_work_business/becoming_a_pilot/


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Adam Moffett > wrote:


Cool.  How do you become certified?
-- Original Message --
From: "Sean Heskett" >
To: "af@afmug.com " >
Sent: 2/6/2017 2:12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Climbing is Life

FAA FAR part 107 allows you to fly to 400 feet AGL or 400 feet
above any structure:
https://www.faa.gov/uas/media/Part_107_Summary.pdf


 *

Maximum altitude of 400 feet above ground level (AGL) or, if

higher than 400 feet AGL, remain within 400 feet of a

structure.


so using a drone near a tower is perfectly legal as along as
you remain within 400 feet, the pilot operator is within
visual site of the drone, the drone is registered and the
pilot is certified.

-Sean




On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Mathew Howard
> wrote:

It's not exactly legal to fly them that high (assuming this
was in the US)...

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
>
wrote:

that is a neat video, I didn't know drones could fly that
high

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Rory Conaway
>
wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/embed/f1BgzIZRfT8?feature=player_embedded



*Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542 *

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

**

“Baseball - we do not stop playing because we grow
old, we grow old because we stop playing”

Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

[Keefe John]

Exide has a 105 AH battery for $81

http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/batteries-battery-chargers/automotive-lead-acid-batteries/exide-regng-27-12-month-nautilus-marine-deep-cycle-battery/p-130136307-c-9100.htm?tid=-3310133469912273928


On February 5, 2017 4:55:55 PM CST, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is
>selling the 106Ah version of these for $185 a piece plus pallet
>shipping:
>
>http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf
>
>Outback, as far as I know, doesn't actually have a battery factory. But
>they are a fairly large company so they are relabeling somebody else's
>deep
>cycle off grid design AGM battery. In terms of $/Wh stored the only
>thing
>that beats it is the 6V 225Ah wet cell batteries from Trojan.
>
>
>
>On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Harold Bledsoe 
>wrote:
>
>> I can across an interesting tip / option -
>>
>> Have you considered going with forklift batteries? They are flooded
>lead
>> acid however I'm reading that they can last 3x longer than golf cart
>> batteries in PV applications.
>>
>> http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_
>> and_Specifications_Zone15.html
>>
>> I guess the weight is a downside. Just make sure the whole family
>eats
>> their Wheaties on moving day. :-)
>>
>> Hal
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:11 PM Eric Kuhnke 
>wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off
>grid
>>> PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal
>for
>>> something like the Trojan T31 or similar.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Harold Bledsoe
>>

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular repeaters. Wilson vs Surecall vs others?

[Keefe John]

I've had great luck with Wilson.


On 1/30/2017 11:57 AM, Ryan Spott wrote:

I have to receive from far off and repeat to a small area <900 square feet!


Any opinions? Any supplier suggestions?

Thanks very much.

ryan

Re: [AFMUG] background checks for potential employees

[Keefe John]

Drug test, background check, and driving record check should be standard 
for all employees.



On 1/27/2017 1:31 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


We are looking to hire a new installer. It was recommended since he / 
she will be going into customer homes we should require them to pass a 
background check.


Those of you that have done this what service did you use for the 
background check? Any additional feedback on this process?


Thanks,

Brandon

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe mounts

[Keefe John]

The Mimosa Fleximount is good for that.


On 1/17/2017 10:09 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Since the biggest tower we have is 5", I would like that.

On a somewhat related note, would anyone else be interested in a 
smaller/lighter duty version of the M-TOW? they're overkill for a lot 
of stuff we do... I'm thinking something like 3" max pipe and thinner 
steel. I guess there wouldn't really be a lot of point unless it was a 
fair amount cheaper... having lighter stuff to take up towers would be 
nice in some cases, but that's probably not a good enough reason on 
it's own.


On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


Thanks.
One of my distributors is asking that I go from 4.5” to 5” pipe
ability on all my stuff.  That is a pretty minor change and I will
probably do that.
*From:* George Skorup
*Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2017 6:02 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pipe mounts
That was me. The angle-iron leg deal I was talking about, I don't
actually need anything specifically designed for angle-iron, we
simply turn the back clamp inwards. Works perfectly fine. However,
like I said, the back side of the angle is about 5-3/4" if I
remember. That's the tower where we order clamp halves that are 7"
hole to hole center. A couple other examples that I can give...
Angle iron leg, 6-3/4", sloped. Round leg, 8-1/4", sloped. Angle
leg, 12-3/4", sloped. (old AT Long-Lines sites, big
mothertruckers from ground to 125 feet)

We're on so much different shit, we pretty much have to order what
we need for the particular site we'll be working at. And most of
the time on free-standers, the legs get smaller as you go up. So
we might need to put dishes at 100-140 feet and sectors at
240-260, which means two completely different sets of mounts for
one site.

I would say a model that can accommodate up to 4.5" OD and another
for 4.5 to 9" OD, sloped or not. For your 1-to-2 pipe arrangement,
most towers will fall in one of those two. For the big leg sites,
I'm not as worried since, as I mentioned, that's mostly for
mounting dishes lower.

We ordered I don't even know how many of these kits last year. 3'
HP dishes on 4.5" pipes adapted to 6" to 8" legs. Some angle, some
round. Some sloped, some not.

http://www.ciwireless.com/product/welded-pipe-to-pipe-adaptor-set-for-tapered-round-members-2-38-in-5-in-od-pipe-to-4-in-9-in-od-pipe/



On 1/16/2017 2:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I have been asked to spin versions of my tower mounts that work
on angle iron legs.  OK, done.  Will be released soon for general
availability.
Now I am getting request for larger units that will fit a 5”
pipe.  We currently will fit a 4.5” pipe.
If I spin a larger version, shall I go 6” or???  Someone recently
suggested 7” center to center on the bolts which would fit over a
6.5” pipe.
Are there some standard tower leg and mounting pipe increments I
need to look at?

Re: [AFMUG] Battery backup at large sites

[Keefe John]

Alpha FXM or Tripplite APS.


On 12/27/2016 10:24 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


http://www.tripplite.com/snmp-web-management-accessory-card-smartpro-smartonline-ups-systems~SNMPWEBCARD/ 



*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2016 10:09 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Battery backup at large sites

Only downside to tripp lite gear is they have no way of remotely 
monitor them�


*From: *Af > on 
behalf of "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" >
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com " >

*Date: *Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 11:59 AM
*To: *"af@afmug.com " >

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Battery backup at large sites

We have been using Tripp Lite APS700HF on many of the sites coupled 
with 2x 100AH AGM.  This gives AC out with very extended runtimes.  If 
we have to add juice we can do it with jumpercables from a truck or a 
generator.  Running a 12v system keeps it simple.


Don�t forget the fuses.

Jim Bouse

Owner

Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi

979-985-5912

j...@brazoswifi.com 

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2016 9:39 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Battery backup at large sites

excessups.com 

/*Gino Villarini*/

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini > wrote:


Where are you sourcing your apc 750XLs from ?

*From: *Af > on 
behalf of Josh Luthman >
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com " >

*Date: *Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 11:06 AM
*To: *"af@afmug.com " >

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Battery backup at large sites

Old sites we replace/use an APC 750 XL with big batteries from 
Batteries Plus.  We get some good deals on them.


New sites or anything we can replace and do DC (24vdc) we'll use 
Meanwell AD-155B (IIRC) and DR40.  From this point forward we'll 
probably be deploying Netonix switches. If you need sync on the 
Ethernet ports you'll have to go with Packetflux.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

/*Gino Villarini*/

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Ken Hohhof > wrote:


I�m a little unclear, are you looking for an AC UPS, or to run 
everything off DC?  You mention inverter so I�m thinking you want an 
AC system?


Also, is this going in a controlled environment like a NOC, or will it 
be in an outdoor temperature environment?


And what is your budget?  Sounds like you are finding $1,000 too 
expensive?


If you are looking for an AC UPS that you attach your own battery bank 
to, that is spec�d for outdoor temps, and that has all the features 
built in, look at Alpha FXM series.  Crossover Distribution can get 
you quotes. FXM650 would meet your power requirements, but I�d look at 
FXM1100 as long as you�re OK with a 48V battery string.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] 
*On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2016 4:42 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Battery backup at large sites

Eltek or Emerson Rectifier system

On 12/27/16, 2:36 AM, "Af on behalf of Josh Corson" 



/*Gino Villarini*/

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

on behalf of j...@bluebitnetworks.com 
> wrote:


>What is everyone using as a battery backup at sites that cannot use a
>standard off the shelve UPS?
>The site in mention is probably using 500 watts max. The battery side
>of things is a no brainer - calculate run time, determine your bank,
>buy batteries.
>However, what are you using for:
>
>1. Inverter / charger
>2. Network monitoring capability when AC goes out with SNMP.
>
>The hardest challenge I've found is sourcing something for network
>monitoring that isn't an all in one charger/inverter like the ICT
>models at 1k.
>
>Always wondered if you could rig a APC network card to work in a battery
>bank...
>
>If anyone could share the layout of their system I'd appreciate it!
>
>Josh
>
>Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

[Keefe John]

Didn't this get delayed?


On 12/18/2016 3:03 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
It had to be easier from a budgetary standpoint to put people on 
salary, however I doubt that it made everyone happy.  In my experience 
one of two things happens when a low level employee is salaried: 
Either someone is working unpaid OT and they're bitter about it, or 
they're trying to avoid working additional hours because they know 
they won't get paid for them.


In either case they might not complain to management.  Not complaining 
=/= happy.



-- Original Message --
From: "Erich Kaiser" >

To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 12/18/2016 2:15:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

What is really obsurd is this new Overtime rule change for 2017.  
When I was running my WISP in the past it was easier from a budgetary 
standpoint to just put some of the people on salary it made everyone 
happy all around because they new what they were getting paid.


This is going to cause a lot of layoffs or change salary people to 
hourly, complete BS.


I don't have a problem with them raising the amount to be on Salary 
but doubling it is crazy.  What are others doing about this?




Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com 
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Mike Hammett > wrote:


Well that's hardly absurd. They have an existing SamKnows
contract and likely wish to continue the program. Smoke, but no fire.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Rory Conaway" >
*To: *af@afmug.com 
*Sent: *Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:29:01 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end


http://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2016/12/14/democratic-fcc-just-committed-trump-administration-to-no-bid-foreign-contract/#2d6d524b2471



Good to see our boy leaving a legacy that reflects what his
leadership has been all about.  I wonder who got paid back for
this contract.

Rory

[AFMUG] Commercial Building Land Contract

[Keefe John]

Has anyone here purchased a building with a land contract?  If so, what 
terms did you negotiate?


Keefe

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: max headroom

[Keefe John]

this happened in Milwaukee with SelecTV as well.


On 11/24/2016 4:00 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:


I don't remember this
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20161124/downtown/max-headroom-1987-chicago-wgn-wttw-unsolved-mystery

Re: [AFMUG] Shameless plug Re: CAT5e/6 grounding

[Keefe John]

How does this differ from the current version?

On 11/23/2016 4:10 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

This is the 10th rev and the best yet.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

[Keefe John]

you should


On 11/18/2016 1:53 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I can easily spin the adapter to fit all ODU style antennas.
The adapter fits over the antenna feedhorn nose and is secured by a 
set screw.

A bit more work but a whole adapter plate could be done too.
REMEC, SAF, Exalt, DW, I can do them all.  But will I?  Should I?

-Original Message- From: George Skorup
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

For RadioWaves, sounds like the feedhorn has to be replaced. But I'm
also thinking of all the Trango OEM antennas we have deployed. Would be
easier/universal to have a Remec adapter plate for the AF-11X.

On 11/18/2016 1:25 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I have the design.  Designed it about 4 months ago.  I can easily put 
it into production.  It will not be cheap.

How long before UBNT knocks it off.
Not sure I want to release a new product.
-Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, November 
18, 2016 12:11 PM To: memb...@wispa.org Cc: Animal Farm Subject: Re: 
[AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?
Yup. Someone here on the members list said they were looking to get 
that made. Was that you, Brad? I'm sure Chuck McCown could make it, too.


On 11/18/2016 10:09 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
I wish there was a REMEC round to dual polarity N-Type adapter 
available.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

[Keefe John]

does radiowaves have an adapter ready?


On 11/18/2016 1:39 PM, George Skorup wrote:
For RadioWaves, sounds like the feedhorn has to be replaced. But I'm 
also thinking of all the Trango OEM antennas we have deployed. Would 
be easier/universal to have a Remec adapter plate for the AF-11X.


On 11/18/2016 1:25 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I have the design.  Designed it about 4 months ago.  I can easily put 
it into production.  It will not be cheap.

How long before UBNT knocks it off.
Not sure I want to release a new product.
-Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, November 
18, 2016 12:11 PM To: memb...@wispa.org Cc: Animal Farm Subject: Re: 
[AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?
Yup. Someone here on the members list said they were looking to get 
that made. Was that you, Brad? I'm sure Chuck McCown could make it, too.


On 11/18/2016 10:09 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
I wish there was a REMEC round to dual polarity N-Type adapter 
available.

Re: [AFMUG] Ganja

[Keefe John]

Nevada too.  Wispapalooza 2017!


On 11/9/2016 10:16 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Now you can legally smoke out in CA without faking a medical 
condition.  Congrats, the West Coast of the USA is now unified!  I 
wonder if this will have a negative impact on the quality of software.

Re: [AFMUG] Windstream / Earthlink Merging

[Keefe John]

They bought out One Communications a few years ago.


On 11/7/2016 1:31 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:


I doesn't know EarthLink was still around.


On Mon, Nov 7, 2016, 12:54 PM Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com 
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote:


Another big merger...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSASC09GKI

[AFMUG] Windstream / Earthlink Merging

[Keefe John]

Another big merger...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSASC09GKI

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook will contribute architecture and code for their 1U 800Gbps DWDM system to TIP

[Keefe John]

anything new wireless stuff?


On 11/1/2016 8:29 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:

Im here bro. (FB Hq)

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016, Josh Reynolds > wrote:



http://venturebeat.com/2016/11/01/facebook-develops-voyager-optical-transponder-will-contribute-design-to-telecom-infra-project/

Re: [AFMUG] cnMedusa is Legal (and shipping!)

[Keefe John]

Mimosa doesn't do MU-MIMO yet.  The hardware supports it but not the 
software.



On 9/30/2016 9:38 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
I thought Mimosa A5 Omni was Mu-Mimo? I can't afford the Cambium AP's 
anymore. Last 4 towers I did were Mimosa and getting more throughput 
to the customers and has saved me $6000-$7500 so far. Although I 
havn't got the towers loaded up with many customers so we will see


On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
> wrote:


4th quarter next year IIRC...around the time the SAS might be
available.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519  Office
574-220-7826  Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 

On Sep 30, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Matt > wrote:


I think he ment 5.1-5.7 ghz


Yep.  But time frame on 3.6 would be interesting.  Early next year,
late next year or what month next year?



On Friday, September 30, 2016, George Skorup > wrote:


3GHz next year. If you're wanting it for 2.4, forget it. I
doubt they'll
even do a 450i in 2.4, but I could be wrong. 2.4 has turned
into 900,
completely sucks, we gave up on it.

On 9/30/2016 12:58 PM, Matt wrote:


Great news.  When will the lower bands be available?


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Matt Mangriotis
> wrote:


The PMP 450m was issued a grant today.  This is the first
commercially
available Multi-User MIMO product in 5 GHz!





https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPY=500_code=_id=gR2HF80%2FF77q7CNU2n2zSw%3D%3D_id=QWP-50450M





Hopefully, those that have placed orders will be seeing them
very soon.



(Is Gino on holiday??? He usually takes care of these things…)



Matt Mangriotis

Senior Product Manager
Cambium Networks
3800 Golf Road, Suite 360

Rolling Meadows, IL 60008



www.cambiumnetworks.com 
O: 847-439-6379 

M: 630-308-9394 
E: m...@cambiumnetworks.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

[Keefe John]

why?


On 9/26/2016 8:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Everyone's against policing these days.


;-)



-
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, September 26, 2016 6:55:27 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

Depends on if he wants to police or shape. To police you don't need 
much of a buffer, and it's a very hard cutoff. To shape (much better 
user experience), he'll need something like RED, WRED, codel/fq_codel 
and deeper buffers.



On Sep 26, 2016 6:19 PM, "Keefe John" <keefe...@ethoplex.com 
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote:


wouldn't you want zero queue buffers for true rate limiting? 
Buffers infer traffic shaping.



On 9/26/2016 3:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

I wouldn't say most, but many do. Normally switches don't have
the proper buffer depth for that kind of thing at scale,
unless using those super high throughput, very large buffer
data center oriented ASIC designs.


On Sep 26, 2016 3:27 PM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com
<mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:

Do most managed switches like the netonix offer a rate
limiting/queue/bandwidth limit?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Chris Wright
<ch...@velociter.net <mailto:ch...@velociter.net>> wrote:

They’re terribly inefficient, for one.

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
*Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 12:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

What is wrong with a simple queue?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Carlos Alcantar
<car...@race.com <mailto:car...@race.com>> wrote:

we do it with ciena/cyan equipment as well.  Your
going to be looking at more of a MEF type of switch
that can handle this of feature.


​
Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <tel:%2B1%20415%20376%203314> /
car...@race.com <mailto:car...@race.com> /
http://www.race.com



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jon Auer
<j...@tapodi.net <mailto:j...@tapodi.net>>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 4:29:25 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

I'm using Ciena 3930s as CPE for our customers with
10G ports and, for those that have subrate services,
using them for shaping/policing.
It's a switch targetted at carrier ethernet demarc so
it has many useful QoS and OAM options.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, TJ Trout
<t...@voltbb.com
<mailto:t...@voltbb.com><mailto:t...@voltbb.com
<mailto:t...@voltbb.com>>> wrote:

What is the best way to throttle a customer to a
specific bandwidth threshold when they are using over
1G of bandwidth?

Should this be done at the switch? I have a feeling
that a simple queue probably won't work...

Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

[Keefe John]

wouldn't you want zero queue buffers for true rate limiting? Buffers 
infer traffic shaping.



On 9/26/2016 3:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


I wouldn't say most, but many do. Normally switches don't have the 
proper buffer depth for that kind of thing at scale, unless using 
those super high throughput, very large buffer data center oriented 
ASIC designs.



On Sep 26, 2016 3:27 PM, "TJ Trout" > wrote:


Do most managed switches like the netonix offer a rate
limiting/queue/bandwidth limit?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Chris Wright > wrote:

They’re terribly inefficient, for one.

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
*Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 12:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

What is wrong with a simple queue?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Carlos Alcantar
> wrote:

we do it with ciena/cyan equipment as well.  Your going to be
looking at more of a MEF type of switch that can handle this
of feature.


​
Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314  /
car...@race.com  / http://www.race.com



From: Af >
on behalf of Jon Auer >
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 4:29:25 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Throttling bandwidth over a gig

I'm using Ciena 3930s as CPE for our customers with 10G ports
and, for those that have subrate services, using them for
shaping/policing.
It's a switch targetted at carrier ethernet demarc so it has
many useful QoS and OAM options.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, TJ Trout >> wrote:

What is the best way to throttle a customer to a specific
bandwidth threshold when they are using over 1G of bandwidth?

Should this be done at the switch? I have a feeling that a
simple queue probably won't work...

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT on high res display

[Keefe John]

aircontrol2 does it too.  I think it has something to do with java.


On 9/21/2016 8:07 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 9/21/16 17:58, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Anybody know how to biggify the fonts when running CNUT on a high res
display?  It�s like I have the CNUT version for ants.



It needs to be at least 3 times bigger.

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...

[Keefe John]

An open source BGP optimization tool would be nice.

Keefe

On 9/19/2016 8:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Not required, but typically going along with full routes is access to 
BGP communities. You could fine-tune both what you advertise, what you 
accept and what your upstreams pass along. You don't have to drop the 
peer entirely if a subset of routes is working properly.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Ken Hohhof" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, September 19, 2016 7:21:48 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...

So much for the people who believe taking full BGP routes will 
automatically choose the best routes.  (Why does "best routes" sound 
like something Trump would say?)



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 6:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent...

On 9/19/16 13:48, Robert Andrews wrote:
> Anybody hear what's going on with Cogent..??   Lots' of packet loss on
> all their cross connects.  I am hearing a lot of people having
> problems with financial transactions ( IP CC readers ) failing and 
connectivity

> to Citrix and such failing..   IS this the new world order?


They're fubar for the last 3 days for different reasons. Today it's a
(another?) fiber cut in LA. Had to pull routes away from Charter to 
get traffic away from Cogent.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Any new CCR's been announced?

[Keefe John]

I wish they would make 48-port switch.

Keefe


On 9/14/2016 12:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
I can't seem to find where the MUM pdf's are, but I was wondering if 
they had announced any upcoming CCR's that are larger than the 1009 
and 1016 but not quite that 1072? like a redesigned 1036 with dual 
psu, etc?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Butt setts

[Keefe John]

bytebrothers has one


On 8/27/2016 10:37 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for butt sets for some upcoming jobs.  
Basically I need to get dial tone and and verify the number I am 
connected to but not sure of other features that may come with the 
higher end sets that may be helpful.

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Keefe John]

70 mhz is reserved for GAA


On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Why not?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com 
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote:


They can't buy them all.


On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area. Probably none of us could
outbid those guys.
-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

Good thing or bad thing?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com
<mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com>>
*To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz


http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/

<http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/>

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Keefe John]

They can't buy them all.


On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area.  Probably none of us could 
outbid those guys.

-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

Good thing or bad thing?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Gino Villarini" >

*To: *"Animal Farm" >
*Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/

[AFMUG] Blue Silos

[Keefe John]

How tall is each ring/section on a blue harvestore silo?

Keefe

Re: [AFMUG] MTCNA, MTCRE and MTCINE equivalent resources

[Keefe John]

What routeros version are your videos based on?


On 7/21/2016 5:36 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:


A few options from Link Techs..

http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=7 
– Training videos, the complete series is like 24 hours of video.


Acutal book on the subject:

http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=25=151 
Second edition, the first was the first RouterOS book to market.


Dennis

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy 
/sarcasm

*Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2016 12:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] MTCNA, MTCRE and MTCINE equivalent resources

I would like to gain the equivalent knowledge (would prefer the actual 
instruction, but Im poor, boss wont pay, and MTCINE is rarely offerred 
anyway)


I really dont care about certification, though it would be nice to 
have letters by my name nobody knows what they mean.


Am I missing out on some resources, it seems most mikrotik training 
videos are either in a language I dont speak or just silent videos of 
a guy doing stuff. The manual is dry


Im primarily needing to learn whats in the MTCINE outline, but even if 
I found a course, it has the requisite other two


--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] LTE Bonding

[Keefe John]

What's a good way to bond a bunch of LTE connections together? I'd like 
to get a bunch of sims from Ting and bong them and provide layer2 over 
the top (EOIP) back to my datacenter.


Keefe

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa CPE pricing

[Keefe John]

$90


On 6/25/2016 5:30 PM, Paul McCall wrote:
I'm playing catch-up on the Mimosa PT MP offerings. What does their 
CPE sell for?


Sent from my Android phone using Symantec TouchDown (www.symantec.com) 

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

[Keefe John]

$65 per cleaning


On 6/15/2016 12:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
clean it once, take that time times your lowest paid lackeys rate of 
pay times 1.5 and thats what it should be


On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:


I know this is subjective, but how much should I be paying to have
someone clean a 2000 sqr foot space?

It is very lightly occupied, has two bathrooms, and mostly open
floorplan with laminate flooring.

Right now I'm cleaning it about 2-3 times a month.




--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

[Keefe John]

Still need surge suppression on the power wire powering that SFP radio.


On 6/10/2016 4:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Such as an SFP

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 10, 2016 5:08 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:


Data surge suppressors aren't necessary on fiber systems.  :-)



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

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<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
    ----
*From: *"Keefe John" <keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Friday, June 10, 2016 3:44:50 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

Interesting.  What do you say to the people who claim surge
suppressors
are just not necessary?


On 6/10/2016 3:15 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> Talking CAT5 and not RF so not a huge issue.  The bigger problem is
> near end cross talk (NEXT) problems when the surge suppressor is
very
> close to a device like a switch or radio.  There is SNR on GIGE but
    > normally return loss, FEXT, NEXT and things like that are more of a
> problem.
>
> -Original Message- From: Keefe John
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 2:07 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors
>
> What about insertion loss causing cables to have SNR issues?
>
>
> On 6/10/2016 2:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
>> They don't add resistance.  (Actually Cambium's suppressor does
add
>> about 7.2K ohm load on each pair but it should not hurt).
>> They do add a minor amount of capacitance, equivalent to perhaps a
>> foot of CAT 5 cable.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Keefe John
>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:42 PM
>> To: Animal Farm
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors
>>
>> Someone recently told me we shouldn't use surge suppressors on
towers
>> because they add too much resistance.  What would you say about
that
>> Chuck?
>>
>> Right now we use GIGESS-HV within 3' of the radio on the tower and
>> GIGEAPC-HV at the tower base.
>>
>> Keefe
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

[Keefe John]

Interesting.  What do you say to the people who claim surge suppressors 
are just not necessary?



On 6/10/2016 3:15 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Talking CAT5 and not RF so not a huge issue.  The bigger problem is 
near end cross talk (NEXT) problems when the surge suppressor is very 
close to a device like a switch or radio.  There is SNR on GIGE but 
normally return loss, FEXT, NEXT and things like that are more of a 
problem.


-Original Message- From: Keefe John
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 2:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

What about insertion loss causing cables to have SNR issues?


On 6/10/2016 2:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
They don't add resistance.  (Actually Cambium's suppressor does add 
about 7.2K ohm load on each pair but it should not hurt).
They do add a minor amount of capacitance, equivalent to perhaps a 
foot of CAT 5 cable.



-Original Message- From: Keefe John
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:42 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

Someone recently told me we shouldn't use surge suppressors on towers
because they add too much resistance.  What would you say about that 
Chuck?


Right now we use GIGESS-HV within 3' of the radio on the tower and
GIGEAPC-HV at the tower base.

Keefe

Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

[Keefe John]

What about insertion loss causing cables to have SNR issues?


On 6/10/2016 2:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
They don't add resistance.  (Actually Cambium's suppressor does add 
about 7.2K ohm load on each pair but it should not hurt).
They do add a minor amount of capacitance, equivalent to perhaps a 
foot of CAT 5 cable.



-Original Message- From: Keefe John
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:42 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

Someone recently told me we shouldn't use surge suppressors on towers
because they add too much resistance.  What would you say about that 
Chuck?


Right now we use GIGESS-HV within 3' of the radio on the tower and
GIGEAPC-HV at the tower base.

Keefe

[AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

[Keefe John]

Someone recently told me we shouldn't use surge suppressors on towers 
because they add too much resistance.  What would you say about that Chuck?


Right now we use GIGESS-HV within 3' of the radio on the tower and 
GIGEAPC-HV at the tower base.


Keefe

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

[Keefe John]

what's the cost of these radios?


On 6/9/2016 4:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Can I ask what was the reason for the decision to go with a 2.5 Gbps 
SFP cage instead of SFP+?  I do not have a single router in any 
network I support capable of native 2.5 Gbps SFP. Such an interface is 
incredibly rare in layer 3 IP network deployments.


If it had an SFP+ interface it would be trivially easy to software 
rate limit a 10GbE optical port in a router (such as a WS-X6704 card 
in a Cisco 6500/7600 platform, or a Juniper PC-1XGE-XENPAK) to 2.5 
Gbps FD and assign it an appropriate OSPF cost somewhere in between 
the cost metrics currently used on 1Gbps and 10Gbs interfaces for 
router-to-router backbone links.


If the radio's interface will function at 2.5 Gbps with a 
standards-compliant 10GbE SFP+ (/not/ one of the special weird 2.5 
Gbps FC SFP) on each end of the link, please disregard everything I 
just said above.




On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:21 PM, John Seaman > wrote:


Hello and thanks for the questions.  The StrataPro does have one
2.5 Gbps SFP cage (along with 3 other GigE ports), but so far we
have not qualified a suitable 2.5 Gbps SFP.  That is something we
are working on.
The Xi model is capable of 2 Gbps FDD (4 Gbps aggregate) so that
currently requires using 2 of the ports to achieve.  Going to 4
Gbps FDD requires two pairs of radios, in MIMO configuration so
you would be using 2 ports on each of the radios.

Regarding keys, the Si base model allows 500 Mbps FDX, and there
is a key that takes it up to 1 Gbps. The Xi model comes with 1
Gbps FDD capability, with a key that opens it up to the max 2+
Gbps.  Yes, AES-256 is an optional key.  These are the only keys
involved with this product.

Given the capacity of 1 Gbps and 2 Gpbs on these products, 1 MB
packet buffer should be more than sufficient since they can
transmit at Ethernet line rate.

Let me know if any other questions, or feel free to hit me off list.

Best regards,



John Seaman |Sales|*Trango Systems, Inc. |*
/
*+1-858-248-4006  *
/
**|
www.trangosys.com 
//
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Erich Kaiser
>
wrote:

Check with John, but I thought he said something about a
2.5Gbps SFP, not sure why they did not go 10G


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com 
Office: 630-621-4804 
Cell: 630-777-9291 


On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Cassidy B. Larson
> wrote:

So I’m checking out the new Trango StrataPro data sheets…
The Xi model appears to do 4Gbps full-duplex.. but no 10G
SFP+.. So I’d have to use all three SFPs, and one copper
gig to get it?

Other notes: it appears they’re keying it up.. so you get
to pay extra to unlock capacity to 1100Mbps and again to
unlock max capacity to 2200Mbps.
Oh and if you want AES-256, you get to pay again.  The 1MB
packet buffer.. seems low.

Anybody else have any thoughts?  Anybody got one yet?

-c

Re: [AFMUG] OT New project

[Keefe John]

So small it isn't here.


On 6/8/2016 9:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Hope this is small enough to post.

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

[Keefe John]

We do 75 degrees


On 5/11/2016 5:51 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
This is related to the lubricant that is used in the drives.   Seagate 
is to blame..   They discovered higher spindle speeds require 
lubricants that like higher temps...   There is a secondary effect due 
to the way that magnetized materials flip and hold at higher temps.   
Again, my data may be old as I worked in that industry 20 years ago..


On 05/11/2016 02:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yep, hot is good according to Google. Somewhere there is a rotating
media study that shows they last longer at higher temps.  Who woulda 
thunk.


-Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

Ours is at 68deg F, and we monitor dewpoint and humidity ranges.

However...
http://www.geek.com/chips/googles-most-efficient-data-center-runs-at-95-degrees-1478473/ 




On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:

Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center.  Our really nice
building that Sprint ditched ranges from 60 to 90F (on a site monitor).

Re: [AFMUG] Amplifi

[Keefe John]

when will it ship?

On 5/9/2016 10:25 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

eero works differently. We are talking to them right now about some things.

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote:

eero got some amazing press.

Daniel White
Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
ConVergence Technologies
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
dwh...@converge-tech.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 8:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Amplifi

On 5/9/16 6:24 AM, Keefe John wrote:

I wish they would finish and stabilize current products before
introducing new ones.

That doesn't benefit stockholders.

~Seth


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Re: [AFMUG] Amplifi

[Keefe John]

I wish they would finish and stabilize current products before introducing new 
ones.

On May 9, 2016 7:13:34 AM CDT, Daniel White  wrote:
>Just saw this on Twitter a few minutes ago.  Guess UBNT wanted to get
>in on
>the eero craze
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>https://www.amplifi.com/
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>Looks interesting for sure.
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>Daniel White
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>Managing Director - Hardware Distribution Sales
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>ConVergence Technologies
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>Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
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>dwh...@converge-tech.com  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT ENG telescopic mast

[Keefe John]

No but here's one on Ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-E-Series-Van-E-350-/272226100877?forcerrptr=true=item3f61f0a68d:g:NU0AAOSwMVFXIQwi=272226100877


On 5/2/2016 11:23 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

That is what I need... you looking to sell?
*From:* Keefe John <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
*Sent:* Monday, May 02, 2016 10:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ENG telescopic mast
We have something like that.

See attached.

On 5/2/2016 9:43 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Looking for a junkyard full of electronic news gathering gear.� 
Pneumatic telescope mast is the #1 thing on my list.� Then I need 
some kind of PTZ mount for the top that is stout enough to hole a 
dish antenna.�

�
Anybody know anyone in the news department of a TV station?

Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration

[Keefe John]

What about a b5?

On April 22, 2016 8:32:36 PM CDT, Rory Conaway  wrote:
>We would need at least 150Mbps to start but as much as I could get is
>what I need.  I don’t have a bucket truck but I can do a reasonable
>test up there to get an idea with both 2.4 and 5GHz.
>
>Rory
>
>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 5:53 PM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Theoretical Question on Pine Tree Penetration
>
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>200 megs in 10 MHz?  AF2x?
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>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>On Apr 22, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
>> wrote:
>
>Hold on..you'd be surprised what 5 and ,,,10mhz channels at 2.4 can
>penetrate...can you test Rory with some masts or bucket truck?  I am
>make a rig for my truck to mount a 30 ft tower and have a mast to go
>maybe  15 ft higher... Some projects are requiring path validations on
>federal property So bucket truck at one end and my rig at other...
>On Apr 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Josh Luthman"
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>wrote:
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>Like 0?
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>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>On Apr 22, 2016 8:33 PM, "Rory Conaway"
>> wrote:
>What are the chances of an AF2 with parabolic dishes going through .9
>miles of trees with at least 200Mbs assuming no interference?
>
>Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
>4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
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>“I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than
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Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

[Keefe John]

I've run into this before.

Credit card companies do not like it if you run your own card.  Amex 
threw a fit when I did it once.


Keefe

On 4/15/2016 3:43 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:


I’ve received a few off-list request for my story and a couple here 
on-list.  I don’t mind sharing, I just didn’t want to come out with a 
rant about IPPay because that wasn’t my goal.  I share this experience 
because I really value this list and the contributions made by all you 
wonderful people.  Few things have shaped my business and been as 
valuable of a resource as this list (beginning as Part-15.org to 
current), so thank you everyone!  (:  Part of that awesomeness is 
sometimes sharing the less than stellar experiences we face, here’s 
mine with IP Pay.


1. I wanted to make a purchase that was not eligible for a CC payment 
and get the cash back rewards


2. I contacted Cap1 and asked if I could use one of those blank 
“courtesy checks” they send out to write to myself and basically get a 
cash advance plus then get the cash back rewards. They said no 
problem, but the checks are exempt from cash back rewards.


3. I asked if I as a business could run my own card into my own bank 
account for the cash rewards.  She said no problem, I asked her to 
research the Cap 1 Visa ToS to verify, she did and again no problem.  
I then asked her to triple verify by confirming with her supervisor, 
and again no problem.  They said if you have that resource to process 
your own card and you’re paying your minimum balances etc. it’s a 
non-issue.


4. I researched “Credit Card Kiting” which is the process of paying a 
credit card balance with another credit card- the practice is only a 
problem when there is deception involved.  Even the Wikipedia article 
demonstrates its OK when there is not deception.  And this isn’t even 
kiting, it’s just processing a credit card for cash in the bank.


5. We process a card for $20k

6. Tanya Krapil from IPPay halts the transaction,  holds the funds and 
emails me asking if it’s legit.  (lost a whole day of expected funds 
because of this)


7. I reply it’s legit.

8. Tayan demands invoices and “documentation” before she will release 
the funds.


9. I reply: “We don't share our invoices with parties not involved 
with the transaction, that is not only a breach of confidentiality but 
inappropriate for you to ask. While I can appreciate your concern for 
fraud I have, as the CEO of Velociter, already confirmed the 
legitimacy of this transaction. If at this time you are cause further 
delays in processing this transaction then I will consider your 
actions as unreasonable non-performance and a termination of our long 
standing business relationship.”


10. Tayna the replies that she will process this transaction.

11. Subsequently Tayna spoke telephonically with other staff and 
determined the card was employee owned.  Tayna said she’d process the 
payment but it isn’t a kosher practice.


12. Tayna then emails me to tell me just kidding, she’s not going to 
process the payment after all. (losing yet another day of expected funds)


My grief is that on a $20k tag Tayna doesn’t bother to pick up the 
phone and call, just arbitrarily held the funds and sent an email.  
Then she said two times that she would indeed process the payment only 
to then change her mind later. It’s horrible customer service to say 
one thing and then not honor it, even if you made a mistake.  I’m 
particularly bothered by her asking for “invoices and documentation” 
to support the charge; the US in particular is getting so used to 
sacrificing our privacy and freedoms.  Tayna is demanding I send over 
information that completely out of her sphere of concern.


Tayna is citing that it’s a Visa policy not process your own card, but 
has provided no documentation to support that.  There is no deception 
involved, we called and pre-authorized the transaction with Cap1 on a 
recorded call and Cap1 gave their blessing.  I contract with IPPay to 
process the CC cards I enter, nothing more.  Even if there is some 
obscure Visa ToS that prohibits this transaction for this specific 
reason (this is **not** credit card kiting) Tayna’s lack of 
professionalism and the subsequent headache it’s caused me finished my 
company’s business relationship with IPPay.  And I would greatly 
question who is the enforcement of Visa’s ToS, the merchant or the 
issuing bank.  I’d lean heavily towards the issuing bank.


Anyhow, thanks for the feedback and suggestions of other merchants.

Scott

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2016 11:35
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Merchant services

Same.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest