subject:"\[AFMUG\] Force 110"

Don't give them any ideas

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:07 PM,  wrote:

> Mail-in coupon.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 1:06 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade
>
> When I did it it was 1.  But still, coming from Mikrotik it seems very
> 1994.  At least they wasn't a fax involved.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:00 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> Oh, wouldn't it be nice if we could just go on Cambium support site and
>> buy license keys right there?
>>
>> Or how about we contact our reseller and say this is what I want. And
>> then it just shows up on the license key page on the support site.
>>
>> To be fair, it used to take a week or two (I think we waited 3 weeks
>> before) to get Cambium to generate the entitlement. Now it's maybe 3 days
>> at the most.
>>
>> On 9/23/2016 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>> Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force
>> 110?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread chuck

Mail-in coupon.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

When I did it it was 1.  But still, coming from Mikrotik it seems very 1994.  
At least they wasn't a fax involved.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:00 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

  Oh, wouldn't it be nice if we could just go on Cambium support site and buy 
license keys right there?

  Or how about we contact our reseller and say this is what I want. And then it 
just shows up on the license key page on the support site.

  To be fair, it used to take a week or two (I think we waited 3 weeks before) 
to get Cambium to generate the entitlement. Now it's maybe 3 days at the most.

  On 9/23/2016 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force 110?

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

When I did it it was 1.  But still, coming from Mikrotik it seems very
1994.  At least they wasn't a fax involved.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:00 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Oh, wouldn't it be nice if we could just go on Cambium support site and
> buy license keys right there?
>
> Or how about we contact our reseller and say this is what I want. And then
> it just shows up on the license key page on the support site.
>
> To be fair, it used to take a week or two (I think we waited 3 weeks
> before) to get Cambium to generate the entitlement. Now it's maybe 3 days
> at the most.
>
> On 9/23/2016 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force 110?
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread George Skorup

Oh, wouldn't it be nice if we could just go on Cambium support site and 
buy license keys right there?


Or how about we contact our reseller and say this is what I want. And 
then it just shows up on the license key page on the support site.


To be fair, it used to take a week or two (I think we waited 3 weeks 
before) to get Cambium to generate the entitlement. Now it's maybe 3 
days at the most.


On 9/23/2016 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force 
110?

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread chuck

Back in the day, Motorola had something like 50 emails on this listserv.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

I love how the list responds faster than any vendor's customer service!

Maybe every customer service office needs to be staffed with 400 people who 
habitually check their email.

-- Original Message --
From: "Mathew Howard" 
To: "af" 
Sent: 9/23/2016 10:45:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

  Yes

  On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force 110?

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

Yup

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Wait that's smarter, you can just stock keys and apply it to any device
> when ever you want...right?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but if you don't have the GPS hardware, you wouldn't have a 10 SM
>> limit to begin with ;-)
>>
>> definitely a good idea to always stock at least one key - I've had APs
>> hit 10 SMs without realizing it a couple of times and a confused installer
>> calling me to find out why the SM he just installed won't connect... it's
>> not exactly ideal to have to wait a day in that situation.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just to be clear you need to have the GPS hardware.  It's officially
>>> "Force 110 PTP".
>>>
>>> The cost of the 110 PTP + key = GPS AP.  Unfortunately the key takes a
>>> business day to process so I would still stock one or more GPS AP.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yes

 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

> Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force
> 110?
>
>


>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

Yes, but if you don't have the GPS hardware, you wouldn't have a 10 SM
limit to begin with ;-)

definitely a good idea to always stock at least one key - I've had APs hit
10 SMs without realizing it a couple of times and a confused installer
calling me to find out why the SM he just installed won't connect... it's
not exactly ideal to have to wait a day in that situation.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Just to be clear you need to have the GPS hardware.  It's officially
> "Force 110 PTP".
>
> The cost of the 110 PTP + key = GPS AP.  Unfortunately the key takes a
> business day to process so I would still stock one or more GPS AP.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force
>>> 110?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

Wait that's smarter, you can just stock keys and apply it to any device
when ever you want...right?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> Yes, but if you don't have the GPS hardware, you wouldn't have a 10 SM
> limit to begin with ;-)
>
> definitely a good idea to always stock at least one key - I've had APs hit
> 10 SMs without realizing it a couple of times and a confused installer
> calling me to find out why the SM he just installed won't connect... it's
> not exactly ideal to have to wait a day in that situation.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Just to be clear you need to have the GPS hardware.  It's officially
>> "Force 110 PTP".
>>
>> The cost of the 110 PTP + key = GPS AP.  Unfortunately the key takes a
>> business day to process so I would still stock one or more GPS AP.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force
 110?


>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

Most of us can afford 3+ monitors when they're $100 =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I love how the list responds faster than any vendor's customer service!
>
> Maybe every customer service office needs to be staffed with 400 people
> who habitually check their email.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Mathew Howard" 
> To: "af" 
> Sent: 9/23/2016 10:45:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade
>
>
> Yes
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force
>> 110?
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

Just to be clear you need to have the GPS hardware.  It's officially "Force
110 PTP".

The cost of the 110 PTP + key = GPS AP.  Unfortunately the key takes a
business day to process so I would still stock one or more GPS AP.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> Yes
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force
>> 110?
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett


I love how the list responds faster than any vendor's customer service!

Maybe every customer service office needs to be staffed with 400 people 
who habitually check their email.



-- Original Message --
From: "Mathew Howard" 
To: "af" 
Sent: 9/23/2016 10:45:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade


Yes

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force 
110?

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

Yes

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force 110?
>
>

[AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett

Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force 
110?

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

I have no doubt the gui performance will eventually improve, but I also
have no doubt by old lady will eventually quit being a bitch. It does not
change the fact I would some days really love to be able to just punch both
in the face.

Note, I would never punch the old lady in the face

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Sorry but your 450 radios cost way too much to do 5.1.  ePMP does the
> entire band and the CPEs aren't $600.  And as we found out yesterday the
> POEs aren't $100.  I can install 5 people with the same hardware costs that
> a single 450 would cost me.  5x revenue and growth for me and my customers.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Matt Mangriotis <
> matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Sri’s message must have been cut off… the rest of it said, “…and in the
>> meantime, please buy more PMP 450!”
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sriram Chaturvedi
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2015 12:36 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>>
>>
>> We have been prioritizing radio performance over the GUI for a very long
>> time. But, like Josh indicated, we made some incremental improvements in
>> GUI performance in 2.4 and 2.5 releases but we are fully aware its not
>> enough. The team has been working on a wholesale rework of the GUI engine
>> (not as much as the look and feel) and we hope to have significant GUI
>> performance gains in a Q1 release. We want to make sure it works on a PC,
>> netbook, mobile etc. with all kinds of processor and memory configurations.
>> We have been receiving tremendous feedback on use cases and performance
>> pains seen my many folks on here and we’re taking all this input and
>> working through them carefully. So keep the feedback (as negative as they
>> can be) coming, on the GUI performance.
>>
>>
>>
>> All I can ask at this time is your patience and support.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sriram
>>
>>
>>
>> Join the Conversation
>> Cambium Networks Community Forum <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> It does seem slightly better in 2.5.1 than what it did in 2.3, but there
>> is a good bit of room for speed improvements.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>> I can deal with the GUI being stupid and slow because the performance is
>> better than UBNT
>>
>> On 12/4/2015 12:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the
>> components on the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and only
>> displays the components of that page, very inefficient
>>
>>
>>
>> Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for techs
>> to not have to know every possible essid
>>
>>
>>
>> fsk and 450 make me happy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>>
>> What are your problems?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>> I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.
>>
>> On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i
>> could punch it in the face
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>> Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once
>> and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For
>> example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane
>> again.
>>
>> Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It
>> won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts
>> back to the No Site Name default.
>>
>> On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>> I think it

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Sorry but your 450 radios cost way too much to do 5.1.  ePMP does the
entire band and the CPEs aren't $600.  And as we found out yesterday the
POEs aren't $100.  I can install 5 people with the same hardware costs that
a single 450 would cost me.  5x revenue and growth for me and my customers.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Matt Mangriotis <
matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:

> Sri’s message must have been cut off… the rest of it said, “…and in the
> meantime, please buy more PMP 450!”
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sriram Chaturvedi
> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2015 12:36 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>
>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
>
>
> We have been prioritizing radio performance over the GUI for a very long
> time. But, like Josh indicated, we made some incremental improvements in
> GUI performance in 2.4 and 2.5 releases but we are fully aware its not
> enough. The team has been working on a wholesale rework of the GUI engine
> (not as much as the look and feel) and we hope to have significant GUI
> performance gains in a Q1 release. We want to make sure it works on a PC,
> netbook, mobile etc. with all kinds of processor and memory configurations.
> We have been receiving tremendous feedback on use cases and performance
> pains seen my many folks on here and we’re taking all this input and
> working through them carefully. So keep the feedback (as negative as they
> can be) coming, on the GUI performance.
>
>
>
> All I can ask at this time is your patience and support.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sriram
>
>
>
> Join the Conversation
> Cambium Networks Community Forum <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> It does seem slightly better in 2.5.1 than what it did in 2.3, but there
> is a good bit of room for speed improvements.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> I can deal with the GUI being stupid and slow because the performance is
> better than UBNT
>
> On 12/4/2015 12:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the
> components on the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and only
> displays the components of that page, very inefficient
>
>
>
> Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for techs
> to not have to know every possible essid
>
>
>
> fsk and 450 make me happy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
> What are your problems?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.
>
> On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i
> could punch it in the face
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once
> and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For
> example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane
> again.
>
> Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It
> won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts
> back to the No Site Name default.
>
> On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the
> config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
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> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
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> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>
> Neve

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread Dan Sullivan

Hi George,

The apostrophe in the device name has been fixed and is included in the latest 
release.

Dan Sullivan
ePMP Software Manager

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram Chaturvedi
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Sorry, a couple of typos. I meant to say the look and feel won’t change much as 
all the work is being done on the underlying GUI engine to improve performance 
and stability.

Thanks,
Sriram

Join the Conversation
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On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>>
 wrote:

Hi Steve,

We have been prioritizing radio performance over the GUI for a very long time. 
But, like Josh indicated, we made some incremental improvements in GUI 
performance in 2.4 and 2.5 releases but we are fully aware its not enough. The 
team has been working on a wholesale rework of the GUI engine (not as much as 
the look and feel) and we hope to have significant GUI performance gains in a 
Q1 release. We want to make sure it works on a PC, netbook, mobile etc. with 
all kinds of processor and memory configurations. We have been receiving 
tremendous feedback on use cases and performance pains seen my many folks on 
here and we’re taking all this input and working through them carefully. So 
keep the feedback (as negative as they can be) coming, on the GUI performance.

All I can ask at this time is your patience and support.

Thanks,
Sriram

Join the Conversation
Cambium Networks Community Forum<http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/>



On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

It does seem slightly better in 2.5.1 than what it did in 2.3, but there is a 
good bit of room for speed improvements.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
I can deal with the GUI being stupid and slow because the performance is better 
than UBNT
On 12/4/2015 12:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the components on 
the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and only displays the 
components of that page, very inefficient

Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for techs to not 
have to know every possible essid

fsk and 450 make me happy



On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird 
mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What are your problems?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.
On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i could 
punch it in the face

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once and 
the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For example, I 
changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane again.

Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It won't 
even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts back to the 
No Site Name default.
On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the config. 
I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.


-
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From: "Josh Luthman" 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped 
firmware to latest and then slap on a template.

Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Di

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi

Sorry, a couple of typos. I meant to say the look and feel won’t change much as 
all the work is being done on the underlying GUI engine to improve performance 
and stability.

Thanks,
Sriram

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On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>>
 wrote:

Hi Steve,

We have been prioritizing radio performance over the GUI for a very long time. 
But, like Josh indicated, we made some incremental improvements in GUI 
performance in 2.4 and 2.5 releases but we are fully aware its not enough. The 
team has been working on a wholesale rework of the GUI engine (not as much as 
the look and feel) and we hope to have significant GUI performance gains in a 
Q1 release. We want to make sure it works on a PC, netbook, mobile etc. with 
all kinds of processor and memory configurations. We have been receiving 
tremendous feedback on use cases and performance pains seen my many folks on 
here and we’re taking all this input and working through them carefully. So 
keep the feedback (as negative as they can be) coming, on the GUI performance.

All I can ask at this time is your patience and support.

Thanks,
Sriram

Join the Conversation
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On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

It does seem slightly better in 2.5.1 than what it did in 2.3, but there is a 
good bit of room for speed improvements.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
I can deal with the GUI being stupid and slow because the performance is better 
than UBNT

On 12/4/2015 12:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the components on 
the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and only displays the 
components of that page, very inefficient

Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for techs to not 
have to know every possible essid

fsk and 450 make me happy



On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird 
mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What are your problems?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett 
<<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.

On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i could 
punch it in the face

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once and 
the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For example, I 
changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane again.

Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It won't 
even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts back to the 
No Site Name default.

On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the config. 
I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.



-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Josh Luthman" <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped 
firmware to latest and then slap on a template.

Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Ma

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread Matt Mangriotis

Sri’s message must have been cut off… the rest of it said, “…and in the 
meantime, please buy more PMP 450!”

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram Chaturvedi
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Hi Steve,

We have been prioritizing radio performance over the GUI for a very long time. 
But, like Josh indicated, we made some incremental improvements in GUI 
performance in 2.4 and 2.5 releases but we are fully aware its not enough. The 
team has been working on a wholesale rework of the GUI engine (not as much as 
the look and feel) and we hope to have significant GUI performance gains in a 
Q1 release. We want to make sure it works on a PC, netbook, mobile etc. with 
all kinds of processor and memory configurations. We have been receiving 
tremendous feedback on use cases and performance pains seen my many folks on 
here and we’re taking all this input and working through them carefully. So 
keep the feedback (as negative as they can be) coming, on the GUI performance.

All I can ask at this time is your patience and support.

Thanks,
Sriram

Join the Conversation
Cambium Networks Community Forum<http://community.cambiumnetworks.com>

On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

It does seem slightly better in 2.5.1 than what it did in 2.3, but there is a 
good bit of room for speed improvements.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
I can deal with the GUI being stupid and slow because the performance is better 
than UBNT
On 12/4/2015 12:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the components on 
the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and only displays the 
components of that page, very inefficient

Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for techs to not 
have to know every possible essid

fsk and 450 make me happy

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird 
mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What are your problems?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.
On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i could 
punch it in the face

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once and 
the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For example, I 
changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane again.

Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It won't 
even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts back to the 
No Site Name default.
On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the config. 
I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com<http://www.ics-il.com/>

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From: "Josh Luthman" 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped 
firmware to latest and then slap on a template.

Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I reloaded 
the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for sure.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Have any of you seen where mo

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi

Hi Steve,

We have been prioritizing radio performance over the GUI for a very long time. 
But, like Josh indicated, we made some incremental improvements in GUI 
performance in 2.4 and 2.5 releases but we are fully aware its not enough. The 
team has been working on a wholesale rework of the GUI engine (not as much as 
the look and feel) and we hope to have significant GUI performance gains in a 
Q1 release. We want to make sure it works on a PC, netbook, mobile etc. with 
all kinds of processor and memory configurations. We have been receiving 
tremendous feedback on use cases and performance pains seen my many folks on 
here and we’re taking all this input and working through them carefully. So 
keep the feedback (as negative as they can be) coming, on the GUI performance.

All I can ask at this time is your patience and support.

Thanks,
Sriram

Join the Conversation
Cambium Networks Community Forum<http://community.cambiumnetworks.com>




On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

It does seem slightly better in 2.5.1 than what it did in 2.3, but there is a 
good bit of room for speed improvements.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
I can deal with the GUI being stupid and slow because the performance is better 
than UBNT

On 12/4/2015 12:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the components on 
the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and only displays the 
components of that page, very inefficient

Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for techs to not 
have to know every possible essid

fsk and 450 make me happy



On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird 
mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What are your problems?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett 
<<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.

On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i could 
punch it in the face

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once and 
the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For example, I 
changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane again.

Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It won't 
even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts back to the 
No Site Name default.

On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the config. 
I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Josh Luthman" <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped 
firmware to latest and then slap on a template.

Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard 
<<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:
I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I reloaded 
the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for sure.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett 
<<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

It does seem slightly better in 2.5.1 than what it did in 2.3, but there is
a good bit of room for speed improvements.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> I can deal with the GUI being stupid and slow because the performance is
> better than UBNT
>
> On 12/4/2015 12:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the
> components on the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and only
> displays the components of that page, very inefficient
>
> Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for techs
> to not have to know every possible essid
>
> fsk and 450 make me happy
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> What are your problems?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett < 
>> dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.
>>>
>>> On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i
>>> could punch it in the face
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that
>>>> once and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display.
>>>> For example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was
>>>> sane again.
>>>>
>>>> Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It
>>>> won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts
>>>> back to the No Site Name default.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the
>>>> config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> <http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com>http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> --
>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>>>  
>>>> *To: * af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>>>>
>>>> Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from
>>>> shipped firmware to latest and then slap on a template.
>>>>
>>>> Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard < 
>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I
>>>>> reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember 
>>>>> for
>>>>> sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett < 
>>>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are
>>>>>> blank when you login and when you go to save it after entering 
>>>>>> everything,
>>>>>> it wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I
>>>>>> have entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>> <http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com>http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread George Skorup

I can deal with the GUI being stupid and slow because the performance is 
better than UBNT


On 12/4/2015 12:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the 
components on the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and 
only displays the components of that page, very inefficient


Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for 
techs to not have to know every possible essid


fsk and 450 make me happy



On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:


What are your problems?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.

On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a
face so i could punch it in the face

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I
tried that once and the radio acted really stupid. None
of the config would display. For example, I changed it
from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane again.

Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit
smarter about it. It won't even let you put a ' in the
SNMP site name field. It just reverts back to the No Site
Name default.

On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of
the fields of the config. I dumped the config, edited
them out and now it seems to be fine.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


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*From: *"Josh Luthman" 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to
update from shipped firmware to latest and then slap on
a template.

Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else
on site.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I saw something like that happen, but it went back
to normal after I reloaded the interface... or maybe
I had to reboot it, I don't remember for sure.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett
mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's
setting fields are blank when you login and when
you go to save it after entering everything, it
wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address?
That's clearly not what I have entered, but
that's what it wants to use.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


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If you only see yourself as part of the team but

you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already
failed as part of the team.






--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Dude have you not seen the eAlign page?  That's like the best tool in the
world...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the
> components on the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and only
> displays the components of that page, very inefficient
>
> Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for techs
> to not have to know every possible essid
>
> fsk and 450 make me happy
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> What are your problems?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>>> I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.
>>>
>>> On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i
>>> could punch it in the face
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that
>>>> once and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display.
>>>> For example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was
>>>> sane again.
>>>>
>>>> Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It
>>>> won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts
>>>> back to the No Site Name default.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the
>>>> config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> --
>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>>>  
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>>>>
>>>> Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from
>>>> shipped firmware to latest and then slap on a template.
>>>>
>>>> Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I
>>>>> reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember 
>>>>> for
>>>>> sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett < 
>>>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are
>>>>>> blank when you login and when you go to save it after entering 
>>>>>> everything,
>>>>>> it wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I
>>>>>> have entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>> <http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com>http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

the biggest complaint i have is that rather than just loading the
components on the page you are on, it loads the entire webserver and only
displays the components of that page, very inefficient

Im lazy too, I like a site survey option, it makes life easier for techs to
not have to know every possible essid

fsk and 450 make me happy



On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> What are your problems?
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.
>>
>> On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i
>> could punch it in the face
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once
>>> and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For
>>> example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It
>>> won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts
>>> back to the No Site Name default.
>>>
>>> On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the
>>> config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>>  
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>>>
>>> Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from
>>> shipped firmware to latest and then slap on a template.
>>>
>>> Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I
>>>> reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for
>>>> sure.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett < 
>>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are
>>>>> blank when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything,
>>>>> it wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I
>>>>> have entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> <http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com>http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Working great here.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 4, 2015 1:07 PM, "Josh Baird"  wrote:

> What are your problems?
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.
>>
>> On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i
>> could punch it in the face
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once
>>> and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For
>>> example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It
>>> won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts
>>> back to the No Site Name default.
>>>
>>> On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the
>>> config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>>  
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>>>
>>> Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from
>>> shipped firmware to latest and then slap on a template.
>>>
>>> Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I
>>>> reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for
>>>> sure.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett < 
>>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are
>>>>> blank when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything,
>>>>> it wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I
>>>>> have entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> <http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com>http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread Josh Baird

What are your problems?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.
>
> On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i
> could punch it in the face
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once
>> and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For
>> example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane
>> again.
>>
>> Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It
>> won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts
>> back to the No Site Name default.
>>
>> On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>> I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the
>> config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>  
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>>
>> Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped
>> firmware to latest and then slap on a template.
>>
>> Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I
>>> reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for
>>> sure.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett < 
>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are
>>>> blank when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything,
>>>> it wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I
>>>> have entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> <http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com>http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread Adam Moffett

I wish a GUI glitch was the worst of my problems.

On 12/4/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i
could punch it in the face

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried
that once and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config
would display. For example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to
"Bobs House" and it was sane again.

Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about
it. It won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It
just reverts back to the No Site Name default.

On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields
of the config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it
seems to be fine.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>

Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>

*From: *"Josh Luthman"
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from
shipped firmware to latest and then slap on a template.

Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal
after I reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot
it, I don't remember for sure.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett
mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting
fields are blank when you login and when you go to save
it after entering everything, it wants to reboot to the
192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have
entered, but that's what it wants to use.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>

Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists

You crack me up!!!

Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>  wrote:
> 
> The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i could 
> punch it in the face
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup  <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
> Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once and 
> the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For example, 
> I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane again.
> 
> Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It won't 
> even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts back to the 
> No Site Name default.
> 
> On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the 
>> config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> 
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> 
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> From: "Josh Luthman"  
>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>> 
>> Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped 
>> firmware to latest and then slap on a template.
>> 
>> Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard < 
>> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I 
>> reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for 
>> sure.
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett < 
>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are blank 
>> when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything, it 
>> wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have 
>> entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>  <http://www.ics-il.com/>http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> 
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>  <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> 
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

The more We are using EPMP the more i wish the radios had a face so i could
punch it in the face

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once
> and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For
> example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane
> again.
>
> Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It
> won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts
> back to the No Site Name default.
>
> On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the
> config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>
> Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped
> firmware to latest and then slap on a template.
>
> Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard < 
> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I
>> reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for
>> sure.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett < 
>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are
>>> blank when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything,
>>> it wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I
>>> have entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> <http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
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>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread George Skorup

Yes. You cannot have single quotes in the device name. I tried that once
and the radio acted really stupid. None of the config would display. For
example, I changed it from "Bob's House" to "Bobs House" and it was sane
again.

Almost the same thing on Canopy, just a little bit smarter about it. It
won't even let you put a ' in the SNMP site name field. It just reverts
back to the No Site Name default.

On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of
the config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to
be fine.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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*From: *"Josh Luthman"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from
shipped firmware to latest and then slap on a template.

Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after
I reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't
remember for sure.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting
fields are blank when you login and when you go to save it
after entering everything, it wants to reboot to the
192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have entered,
but that's what it wants to use.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Christopher Gray

I sometimes have this sort of experience if I just upgraded firmware and
have the new [or old] files cached. I do a shift+f5 refresh before
configuring if things look fishy.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are blank
> when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything, it
> wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have
> entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Mike Hammett

It was something I had intentionally put into a field that the ePMP firmware 
didn't seem to like, so was persistent until a backup, edit, restore. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 7:30:35 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 


Binary backups are your friend... 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the config. 
I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 




From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 




Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped 
firmware to latest and then slap on a template. 


Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I reloaded 
the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for sure. 





On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are blank when 
you login and when you go to save it after entering everything, it wants to 
reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have entered, but 
that's what it wants to use. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman

Binary backups are your friend...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the
> config. I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Force 110
>
>
> Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped
> firmware to latest and then slap on a template.
>
> Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I
>> reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for
>> sure.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>>> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are
>>> blank when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything,
>>> it wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I
>>> have entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Mike Hammett

I think it was related to a single quote ' in some of the fields of the config. 
I dumped the config, edited them out and now it seems to be fine. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:44:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 


Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped 
firmware to latest and then slap on a template. 


Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I reloaded 
the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for sure. 





On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are blank when 
you login and when you go to save it after entering everything, it wants to 
reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have entered, but 
that's what it wants to use. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman

Never had a problem, but keep in mind I use one PC to update from shipped
firmware to latest and then slap on a template.

Then I use the laptop in the truck to do everything else on site.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I
> reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for
> sure.
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are blank
>> when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything, it
>> wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have
>> entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Mathew Howard

I saw something like that happen, but it went back to normal after I
reloaded the interface... or maybe I had to reboot it, I don't remember for
sure.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are blank
> when you login and when you go to save it after entering everything, it
> wants to reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have
> entered, but that's what it wants to use.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> 
> 
> 
>

[AFMUG] Force 110

2015-12-03 Thread Mike Hammett

Have any of you seen where most of a Force 110's setting fields are blank when 
you login and when you go to save it after entering everything, it wants to 
reboot to the 192.168.0.2 address? That's clearly not what I have entered, but 
that's what it wants to use. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Radome

2015-06-22 Thread Chuck McCown

Sorry, should have been off list.

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Radome

Traci, could you arrange this for me please?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Radome

If you pay shipping you can keep one of my Force110.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  If someone wants a prototype, could you loan me a dish and subreflector?  I 
can’t find the one I had.  I will return it with a radome.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Radome

2015-06-22 Thread Chuck McCown

Traci, could you arrange this for me please?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Radome

If you pay shipping you can keep one of my Force110.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  If someone wants a prototype, could you loan me a dish and subreflector?  I 
can’t find the one I had.  I will return it with a radome.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Radome

2015-06-22 Thread Josh Luthman

If you pay shipping you can keep one of my Force110.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   If someone wants a prototype, could you loan me a dish and
> subreflector?  I can’t find the one I had.  I will return it with a
> radome.
>

[AFMUG] Force 110 Radome

2015-06-22 Thread Chuck McCown

If someone wants a prototype, could you loan me a dish and subreflector?  I 
can’t find the one I had.  I will return it with a radome.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-26 Thread David

I really like the new force dishes for Epmp and that is exactly what we 
are doing with then by tying the rest of our sites together

which will give some more redundancy and a little bandwidth where needed.


On 03/25/2015 01:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Chuck,

How much would it cost to make a radome that snaps over the force110 
dish?  I'd like to have them for light duty backhauls but for CPEs I 
think it would possibly be cost prohibitive. Right now we're using the 
subreflector to attach them to the harness, we would need to retain 
this ability.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:20 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:


I told them to make a radome with the sub reflector integrated.
Will they listen, who knows.

On 3/25/2015 10:51 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?
ï¿½
*From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
ï¿½
I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"


On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes
available and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing
loss. We donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a
few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you
guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any
experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince
myself I can get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.

ï¿½

ï¿½

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-26 Thread chuck

Thing is, as soon as I make one, Cambium will make one.  That is what others 
did to me many times over.  
Somebody want to loan me one for a week?

From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Yep. Chuck, you should order one and play with it. I don't care who makes it, 
Cambium or WB. But we get some pretty bad ice a couple times a year. For the 
short hops where we're using the Force110's (5-6 miles), I would like a radome. 
Anything beyond that and we use 2' Laird dishes with radomes.

On 3/25/2015 4:31 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote:

  Subreflector may need to be integrated into radome.

  On 3/25/2015 3:52 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

The feedhorn doesn't stick out farther than the dish.  The subreflector 
does, however. 

Maybe 30 to 50 bucks?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Wonder if there is enough margin to tool up.  What are you willing to pay?
  What is the diameter?  How far does the feedhorn stick out past the rim 
of the dish?

  From: Brandon Yuchasz 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:46 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

  Chuck,

  We would use them at tower sites for sure and depending on cost would 
probably use them at the SM’s. 

  Brandon

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:51 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

  Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?

  From: Adam Moffett 

  Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

  I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"

  On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. 
Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and 
snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We donï¿½t have a lot of 
wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the 
end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. 
Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot 
dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the 
forces dishes at some smaller sites.

ï¿½

ï¿½

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-26 Thread YummySpam

You may want to wait.  A little bird told me they were already working on 
the successor to the 110. 

- Original Message -

From: "Brandon Yuchasz"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:17:59 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow. 

Certainly would buy them at 30 for every dish I deploy. 50 maybe just the 
backhauls. 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:53 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow. 

The feedhorn doesn't stick out farther than the dish.  The subreflector does, 
however. 

Maybe 30 to 50 bucks? 

Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 

Wonder if there is enough margin to tool up.  What are you willing to pay? 

What is the diameter?  How far does the feedhorn stick out past the rim of the 
dish? 

From: Brandon Yuchasz 

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:46 PM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow. 

Chuck, 

We would use them at tower sites for sure and depending on cost would probably 
use them at the SM’s. 

Brandon 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:51 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow. 

Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me? 

From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow. 

I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!" 

On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: 

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically I 
am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow sticking to 
the dish surfaces and causing loss. We donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow 
but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you 
guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences 
would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with 
radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes 
at some smaller sites. 

ï¿½ 

ï¿½ 

Thanks, 

Brandon Yuchasz 

GogebicRange.net 

www.gogebicrange.net 

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

Certainly would buy them at 30 for every dish I deploy. 50 maybe just the 
backhauls. 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

The feedhorn doesn't stick out farther than the dish.  The subreflector does, 
however.

Maybe 30 to 50 bucks?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Wonder if there is enough margin to tool up.  What are you willing to pay?

What is the diameter?  How far does the feedhorn stick out past the rim of the 
dish?

From: Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>  

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:46 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Chuck,

We would use them at tower sites for sure and depending on cost would probably 
use them at the SM’s. 

Brandon

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?

From: Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"

On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically I 
am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow sticking to 
the dish surfaces and causing loss. We donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow 
but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you 
guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences 
would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with 
radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes 
at some smaller sites.

ï¿½

ï¿½

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Bill Prince


Bet you get a lot of snow down there in Florida...

bp


On 3/25/2015 10:41 AM, Paul McCall wrote:


Weï¿½ve not seen any snow issues on this model .

Paul J

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. 
Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes 
available and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We 
donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the 
beginning of winter and the end. I figure you guys down south of me 
get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. 
On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I 
am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes at 
some smaller sites.


Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)

Yep. Chuck, you should order one and play with it. I don't care who 
makes it, Cambium or WB. But we get some pretty bad ice a couple times a 
year. For the short hops where we're using the Force110's (5-6 miles), I 
would like a radome. Anything beyond that and we use 2' Laird dishes 
with radomes.


On 3/25/2015 4:31 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote:

Subreflector may need to be integrated into radome.

On 3/25/2015 3:52 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
The feedhorn doesn't stick out farther than the dish.  The 
subreflector does, however.


Maybe 30 to 50 bucks?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


Wonder if there is enough margin to tool up. What are you willing
to pay?
What is the diameter?  How far does the feedhorn stick out past
the rim of the dish?
*From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:46 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Chuck,

We would use them at tower sites for sure and depending on cost
would probably use them at the SM’s.

Brandon

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?

*From:*Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"

On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and
snow. Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having
radomes available and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and
causing loss. We donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow but we
get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I
figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites
I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying
to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes at
some smaller sites.

ï¿½

ï¿½

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Brian Sullivan


Subreflector may need to be integrated into radome.

On 3/25/2015 3:52 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
The feedhorn doesn't stick out farther than the dish.  The 
subreflector does, however.


Maybe 30 to 50 bucks?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


Wonder if there is enough margin to tool up. What are you willing
to pay?
What is the diameter?  How far does the feedhorn stick out past
the rim of the dish?
*From:* Brandon Yuchasz <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:46 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Chuck,

We would use them at tower sites for sure and depending on cost
would probably use them at the SM’s.

Brandon

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?

*From:*Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"

On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and
snow. Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having
radomes available and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and
causing loss. We donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow but we
get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I
figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites
I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to
convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes at some
smaller sites.

ï¿½

ï¿½

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

The feedhorn doesn't stick out farther than the dish.  The subreflector
does, however.

Maybe 30 to 50 bucks?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   Wonder if there is enough margin to tool up.  What are you willing to
> pay?
> What is the diameter?  How far does the feedhorn stick out past the rim of
> the dish?
>
>  *From:* Brandon Yuchasz 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>
>
> Chuck,
>
> We would use them at tower sites for sure and depending on cost would
> probably use them at the SM’s.
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:51 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>
>
>
> Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?
>
>
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett 
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>
>
>
> I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"
>
>  On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
> Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We donï¿½t have a
> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter
> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can
> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Chuck McCown

Wonder if there is enough margin to tool up.  What are you willing to pay?
What is the diameter?  How far does the feedhorn stick out past the rim of the 
dish?

From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Chuck,

We would use them at tower sites for sure and depending on cost would probably 
use them at the SM’s. 

Brandon

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?

From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"

On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

  Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically 
I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow sticking 
to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow 
but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you 
guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences 
would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with 
radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes 
at some smaller sites.

  ï¿½

  ï¿½

  Thanks,

  Brandon Yuchasz

  GogebicRange.net

  www.gogebicrange.net

  ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

Chuck,

We would use them at tower sites for sure and depending on cost would
probably use them at the SMs. 

Brandon

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

 

Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?

 

From: Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

 

I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"



On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically
I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow
sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We donï¿½t have a lot of wet
sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the
end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice.
Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot
dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the
forces dishes at some smaller sites.

ï¿½

ï¿½

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)


If Chicago could fall into the lake, we'd be alright.

On 3/25/2015 3:28 PM, James Howard wrote:


Sounds like you have nicer things to say about Wisconsin than most 
Wisconsin residents have to say about Illinois……


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup 
(Cyber Broadcasting)

*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

This guy needs to do stand-up.

On 3/25/2015 2:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

In Wisconsin it snows cheese curds.

That’s why we pronounce it Whiz-consin, as in Cheez Whiz.

*From:*James Howard <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>

*Sent:*Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:13 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

I don’t know what they got in Western Wisconsin  (SIN by the way
Josh, not SON…  most people seem to pronounce it WESTconson
though) but we’re more south central (south of Madison).  I live
15 minutes from the office and got 10-12 inches on Sunday/Monday
at my house while we got closer to 6 inches at the office.  It was
SUPPOSED to be 50+ degrees today according the forecast on Sunday
so most of it should have melted away but it’s only 37 right now
and not melting fast.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:17 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Ahh western Wisconson.  Talked to the Powercode guys yesterday and
they didn't get anything on Monday.  That, by the way, is not fair.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yep, it was less than an inch last night, but we got close to a
foot in some areas around here Monday.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
wrote:

Wisconson?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That's cruel... we had snow last night.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:

We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .

Paul J

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Brandon
Yuchasz
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110
and snow. Specifically I am concerned about the dishes
not having radomes available and snow sticking to the
dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a lot of
wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the
beginning of winter and the end. I figure you guys
down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice.
Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I
plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am
trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces
dishes at some smaller sites.

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>



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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread James Howard

Sounds like you have nicer things to say about Wisconsin than most Wisconsin 
residents have to say about Illinois……

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting)
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

This guy needs to do stand-up.
On 3/25/2015 2:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
In Wisconsin it snows cheese curds.

That’s why we pronounce it Whiz-consin, as in Cheez Whiz.

From: James Howard<mailto:ja...@litewire.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

I don’t know what they got in Western Wisconsin  (SIN by the way Josh, not SON… 
 most people seem to pronounce it WESTconson though) but we’re more south 
central (south of Madison).  I live 15 minutes from the office and got 10-12 
inches on Sunday/Monday at my house while we got closer to 6 inches at the 
office.  It was SUPPOSED to be 50+ degrees today according the forecast on 
Sunday so most of it should have melted away but it’s only 37 right now and not 
melting fast.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Ahh western Wisconson.  Talked to the Powercode guys yesterday and they didn't 
get anything on Monday.  That, by the way, is not fair.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yep, it was less than an inch last night, but we got close to a foot in some 
areas around here Monday.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Wisconson?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That's cruel... we had snow last night.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall" 
mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .

Paul ☺

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically I 
am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow sticking to 
the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a lot of wet sticky snow but 
we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you guys 
down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences would be 
helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I 
am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes at some 
smaller sites.

Thanks,
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)


This guy needs to do stand-up.

On 3/25/2015 2:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

In Wisconsin it snows cheese curds.
That’s why we pronounce it Whiz-consin, as in Cheez Whiz.
*From:* James Howard <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

I don’t know what they got in Western Wisconsin  (SIN by the way Josh, 
not SON…  most people seem to pronounce it WESTconson though) but 
we’re more south central (south of Madison).  I live 15 minutes from 
the office and got 10-12 inches on Sunday/Monday at my house while we 
got closer to 6 inches at the office.  It was SUPPOSED to be 50+ 
degrees today according the forecast on Sunday so most of it should 
have melted away but it’s only 37 right now and not melting fast.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:17 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Ahh western Wisconson.  Talked to the Powercode guys yesterday and 
they didn't get anything on Monday.  That, by the way, is not fair.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yep, it was less than an inch last night, but we got close to a foot 
in some areas around here Monday.


On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Wisconson?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:


That's cruel... we had snow last night.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
wrote:

Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:

We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .

Paul J

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and
snow. Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not
having radomes available and snow sticking to the dish
surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a lot of wet
sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of
winter and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get
a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences would be
helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes
with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get
by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Ken Hohhof

In Wisconsin it snows cheese curds.

That’s why we pronounce it Whiz-consin, as in Cheez Whiz.

From: James Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

I don’t know what they got in Western Wisconsin  (SIN by the way Josh, not SON… 
 most people seem to pronounce it WESTconson though) but we’re more south 
central (south of Madison).  I live 15 minutes from the office and got 10-12 
inches on Sunday/Monday at my house while we got closer to 6 inches at the 
office.  It was SUPPOSED to be 50+ degrees today according the forecast on 
Sunday so most of it should have melted away but it’s only 37 right now and not 
melting fast.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Ahh western Wisconson.  Talked to the Powercode guys yesterday and they didn't 
get anything on Monday.  That, by the way, is not fair.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

Yep, it was less than an inch last night, but we got close to a foot in some 
areas around here Monday.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Wisconson?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

  That's cruel... we had snow last night.

  On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:

  We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .

  Paul J

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz
  Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

  Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. 
Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and 
snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a lot of wet 
sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I 
figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any 
experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes 
with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces 
dishes at some smaller sites.

  Thanks,

  Brandon Yuchasz

  GogebicRange.net

  www.gogebicrange.net

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread James Howard

I don’t know what they got in Western Wisconsin  (SIN by the way Josh, not SON… 
 most people seem to pronounce it WESTconson though) but we’re more south 
central (south of Madison).  I live 15 minutes from the office and got 10-12 
inches on Sunday/Monday at my house while we got closer to 6 inches at the 
office.  It was SUPPOSED to be 50+ degrees today according the forecast on 
Sunday so most of it should have melted away but it’s only 37 right now and not 
melting fast.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Ahh western Wisconson.  Talked to the Powercode guys yesterday and they didn't 
get anything on Monday.  That, by the way, is not fair.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yep, it was less than an inch last night, but we got close to a foot in some 
areas around here Monday.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Wisconson?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That's cruel... we had snow last night.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall" 
mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .

Paul ☺

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically I 
am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow sticking to 
the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a lot of wet sticky snow but 
we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you guys 
down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences would be 
helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I 
am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes at some 
smaller sites.


Thanks,
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Chuck,

How much would it cost to make a radome that snaps over the force110 dish?
I'd like to have them for light duty backhauls but for CPEs I think it
would possibly be cost prohibitive.  Right now we're using the subreflector
to attach them to the harness, we would need to retain this ability.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:20 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

>  I told them to make a radome with the sub reflector integrated. Will they
> listen, who knows.
>
> On 3/25/2015 10:51 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>  Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?
>  ï¿½
>  *From:* Adam Moffett 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>  ï¿½
>  I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"
>
>
> On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
>  Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We donï¿½t have a
> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter
> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can
> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Mathew Howard

That is not fair at all! I know there was a lot less snow to the north and
east, but I didn't realize they didn't get any over there...

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Ahh western Wisconson.  Talked to the Powercode guys yesterday and they
> didn't get anything on Monday.  That, by the way, is not fair.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Yep, it was less than an inch last night, but we got close to a foot in
>> some areas around here Monday.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wisconson?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's cruel... we had snow last night.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon
>>>>>> Yuchasz
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
>>>>>> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
>>>>>> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a
>>>>>> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of 
>>>>>> winter
>>>>>> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky 
>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
>>>>>> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)

I told them to make a radome with the sub reflector integrated. Will 
they listen, who knows.


On 3/25/2015 10:51 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?
*From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"


On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. 
Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes 
available and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We 
donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at 
the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you guys down south of 
me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences would be 
helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with 
radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the 
forces dishes at some smaller sites.


ï¿½

ï¿½

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Ahh western Wisconson.  Talked to the Powercode guys yesterday and they
didn't get anything on Monday.  That, by the way, is not fair.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Yep, it was less than an inch last night, but we got close to a foot in
> some areas around here Monday.
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Wisconson?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's cruel... we had snow last night.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon
>>>>> Yuchasz
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
>>>>> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
>>>>> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a
>>>>> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of 
>>>>> winter
>>>>> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky 
>>>>> stuff
>>>>> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
>>>>> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can
>>>>> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>>>
>>>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>>>
>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Mathew Howard

Yep, it was less than an inch last night, but we got close to a foot in
some areas around here Monday.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Wisconson?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> That's cruel... we had snow last night.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
>>>> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
>>>> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a
>>>> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter
>>>> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
>>>> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
>>>> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can
>>>> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>>
>>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>>
>>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Ty Featherling

We had snow once. It was neat! hahaha

-Ty

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Wisconson?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> That's cruel... we had snow last night.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
>>>> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
>>>> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a
>>>> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter
>>>> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
>>>> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
>>>> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can
>>>> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>>
>>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>>
>>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Wisconson?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> That's cruel... we had snow last night.
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>
>>>  We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
>>> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
>>> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a
>>> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter
>>> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
>>> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
>>> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can
>>> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>
>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>
>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Mathew Howard

That's cruel... we had snow last night.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>
>>  We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul J
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
>> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
>> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a
>> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter
>> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
>> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
>> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can
>> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>
>> GogebicRange.net
>>
>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Wow Paul.  Salting the wound.  We had snow Monday :(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 25, 2015 1:41 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:

>  We’ve not seen any snow issues on this model .
>
>
>
> Paul J
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
>
>
>
> Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a
> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter
> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can
> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Paul McCall

We've not seen any snow issues on this model .

Paul :)

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically I 
am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow sticking to 
the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don't have a lot of wet sticky snow but 
we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you guys 
down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences would be 
helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I 
am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes at some 
smaller sites.

Thanks,
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
www.gogebicrange.net<http://www.gogebicrange.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Chuck McCown

Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me?

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"

On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

  Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically 
I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow sticking 
to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow 
but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you 
guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences 
would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with 
radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes 
at some smaller sites.

  ï¿½

  ï¿½

  Thanks,

  Brandon Yuchasz

  GogebicRange.net

  www.gogebicrange.net

  ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Adam Moffett


I am picketing with a sign that says "Radome or go home!"


On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. 
Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes 
available and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We 
donï¿½t have a lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the 
beginning of winter and the end. I figure you guys down south of me 
get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. 
On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I 
am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes at 
some smaller sites.


Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-24 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc

I have a few facing north and west.  Snow came from that direction.  Didn't
lose any links.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 25, 2015 11:06 AM, "Brandon Yuchasz"  wrote:

> Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow.
> Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available
> and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don’t have a
> lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter
> and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff
> and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to
> deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can
> get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.

2015-03-25 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically
I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow
sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don't have a lot of wet
sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the
end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice.
Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot
dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the
forces dishes at some smaller sites.

 

 

Thanks,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

L:)L  yep.  ePIMP

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

Like an ePiMP. 

On Mar 24, 2015 4:37 PM, "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

I should add it’s still getting 190/90 on the wireless link test… like a pimp.

 

 

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Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way).

 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Colin Stanners

Like an ePiMP.
On Mar 24, 2015 4:37 PM, "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" <
t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> I should add it’s still getting 190/90 on the wireless link test… like a
> pimp.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
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>
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue
>
>
>
> What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind
> of sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has
> problems but UDP may heavy be one way).
>
>
>
> I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps
> aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
> Inc  wrote:
>
> Have any of you seen something like this?
>
>
>
> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>
> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>
> No Ethernet errors
>
> UDP router to router test great
>
> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>
> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>
>
>
> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no
> issues
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc

I should add it’s still getting 190/90 on the wireless link test… like a pimp.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way).

 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

 

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Colin Stanners

I should've been more clear, those names are the unused/available ones per
my little knowledge of the ubnt catalog. I guess they'll last a year or two?
On Mar 24, 2015 4:32 PM, "Chuck Macenski"  wrote:

> fiber?
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquiti product name generator:
>> [air / nano / pico / power / rocket][fiber / beam / bridge / grid /
>> station / dish / MAX]
>>
>> airbeam
>> airbridge
>> airgrid
>> airstation
>> airdish
>> nanofiber
>> nanogrid
>> nanodish
>> nanoMAX
>> picofiber
>> picobeam
>> picobridge
>> picogrid
>> picodish
>> picoMAX
>> powerfiber
>> powergrid
>> powerdish
>> powreMAX
>> rocketfiber
>> rocketbeam
>> rocketbridge
>> rocketgrid
>> rocketstation
>> rocketdish
>> rocketMAX
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And also being renamed PowerBeams, not to be confused with the NanoBeams
>>> that are still NanoBeams.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Nanobridges are (in the processing of) replacing Nanobeams.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ok.cool..I don't Nanobeam...have not had good results.  Rockets M5 for
> ptp and with sectorsNanobridges with dishes for CPE
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average.  They
>> definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as I see chew 
>> through
>> new better (in part because of the antennas).
>>
>> Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The
>> Force110 is rock solid at 30+ mph.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> not bad
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 $225 msrp/each side


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> how much are these?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
> Communications Inc  wrote:
>
>> Have any of you seen something like this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>>
>> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>>
>> No Ethernet errors
>>
>> UDP router to router test great
>>
>> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>>
>> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>>
>>
>>
>> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem
>> and no issues
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>
>>
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>>
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>
>

>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc

Josh,

 

UDP can do 100Mb easy  (although I see these random drops in the UDP chart like 
it dies for a second)

TCP barely hits 20Mb

 

I have tried flex and 75/25

I have tried auto on both Ethernet sides and locked to 100

 

Changed cable, ports etc.

 

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way).

 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Chuck Macenski

fiber?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Ubiquiti product name generator:
> [air / nano / pico / power / rocket][fiber / beam / bridge / grid /
> station / dish / MAX]
>
> airbeam
> airbridge
> airgrid
> airstation
> airdish
> nanofiber
> nanogrid
> nanodish
> nanoMAX
> picofiber
> picobeam
> picobridge
> picogrid
> picodish
> picoMAX
> powerfiber
> powergrid
> powerdish
> powreMAX
> rocketfiber
> rocketbeam
> rocketbridge
> rocketgrid
> rocketstation
> rocketdish
> rocketMAX
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> And also being renamed PowerBeams, not to be confused with the NanoBeams
>> that are still NanoBeams.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nanobridges are (in the processing of) replacing Nanobeams.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 ok.cool..I don't Nanobeam...have not had good results.  Rockets M5 for
 ptp and with sectorsNanobridges with dishes for CPE

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average.  They
> definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as I see chew 
> through
> new better (in part because of the antennas).
>
> Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The Force110
> is rock solid at 30+ mph.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> not bad
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> $225 msrp/each side
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 how much are these?

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
 Communications Inc  wrote:

> Have any of you seen something like this?
>
>
>
> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>
> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>
> No Ethernet errors
>
> UDP router to router test great
>
> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>
> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>
>
>
> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem
> and no issues
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh
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>

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>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Ben Moore

Wait...Where did you get our part # generating tool? ;)

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Ubiquiti product name generator:
> [air / nano / pico / power / rocket][fiber / beam / bridge / grid /
> station / dish / MAX]
>
> airbeam
> airbridge
> airgrid
> airstation
> airdish
> nanofiber
> nanogrid
> nanodish
> nanoMAX
> picofiber
> picobeam
> picobridge
> picogrid
> picodish
> picoMAX
> powerfiber
> powergrid
> powerdish
> powreMAX
> rocketfiber
> rocketbeam
> rocketbridge
> rocketgrid
> rocketstation
> rocketdish
> rocketMAX
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> And also being renamed PowerBeams, not to be confused with the NanoBeams
>> that are still NanoBeams.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nanobridges are (in the processing of) replacing Nanobeams.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 ok.cool..I don't Nanobeam...have not had good results.  Rockets M5 for
 ptp and with sectorsNanobridges with dishes for CPE

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average.  They
> definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as I see chew 
> through
> new better (in part because of the antennas).
>
> Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The Force110
> is rock solid at 30+ mph.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> not bad
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> $225 msrp/each side
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 how much are these?

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
 Communications Inc  wrote:

> Have any of you seen something like this?
>
>
>
> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>
> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>
> No Ethernet errors
>
> UDP router to router test great
>
> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>
> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>
>
>
> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem
> and no issues
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh
> Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
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>
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>


>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Colin Stanners

Ubiquiti product name generator:
[air / nano / pico / power / rocket][fiber / beam / bridge / grid / station
/ dish / MAX]

airbeam
airbridge
airgrid
airstation
airdish
nanofiber
nanogrid
nanodish
nanoMAX
picofiber
picobeam
picobridge
picogrid
picodish
picoMAX
powerfiber
powergrid
powerdish
powreMAX
rocketfiber
rocketbeam
rocketbridge
rocketgrid
rocketstation
rocketdish
rocketMAX


On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> And also being renamed PowerBeams, not to be confused with the NanoBeams
> that are still NanoBeams.
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Nanobridges are (in the processing of) replacing Nanobeams.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote:
>>
>>> ok.cool..I don't Nanobeam...have not had good results.  Rockets M5 for
>>> ptp and with sectorsNanobridges with dishes for CPE
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average.  They
 definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as I see chew through
 new better (in part because of the antennas).

 Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The Force110
 is rock solid at 30+ mph.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> not bad
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> $225 msrp/each side
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> how much are these?
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
>>> Communications Inc  wrote:
>>>
 Have any of you seen something like this?



 Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

 -56 *running link test around 190/90*

 No Ethernet errors

 UDP router to router test great

 TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

 Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most



 Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and
 no issues





 *Tyson Burris, President*
 *Internet Communications Inc.*
 *739 Commerce Dr.*
 *Franklin, IN 46131*

 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online: **www.surfici.net* 



 [image: ICI]

 *What can ICI do for you?*


 *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh
 Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*

 *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
 *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
 *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
 *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
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>>>
>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Mathew Howard

And also being renamed PowerBeams, not to be confused with the NanoBeams
that are still NanoBeams.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Nanobridges are (in the processing of) replacing Nanobeams.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> ok.cool..I don't Nanobeam...have not had good results.  Rockets M5 for
>> ptp and with sectorsNanobridges with dishes for CPE
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average.  They
>>> definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as I see chew through
>>> new better (in part because of the antennas).
>>>
>>> Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The Force110
>>> is rock solid at 30+ mph.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 not bad

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> $225 msrp/each side
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> how much are these?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
>> Communications Inc  wrote:
>>
>>> Have any of you seen something like this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>>>
>>> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>>>
>>> No Ethernet errors
>>>
>>> UDP router to router test great
>>>
>>> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>>>
>>> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and
>>> no issues
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ICI]
>>>
>>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh
>>> Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>>
>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>>> *prohibited.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

s/replacing/being replaced by


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

>  Isn't it the other way around?
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/24/2015 11:48 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Nanobridges are (in the processing of) replacing Nanobeams.
>
>
>  Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> ok.cool..I don't Nanobeam...have not had good results.  Rockets M5 for
>> ptp and with sectorsNanobridges with dishes for CPE
>>
>>  Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>  On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average.  They
>>> definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as I see chew through
>>> new better (in part because of the antennas).
>>>
>>>  Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The Force110
>>> is rock solid at 30+ mph.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 not bad

  Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

  On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> $225 msrp/each side
>
>
>  Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>  On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> how much are these?
>>
>>  Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
>> Communications Inc  wrote:
>>
>>>  Have any of you seen something like this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>>>
>>> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>>>
>>> No Ethernet errors
>>>
>>> UDP router to router test great
>>>
>>> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>>>
>>> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and
>>> no issues
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ICI]
>>>
>>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh
>>> Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>>
>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>>> *prohibited.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Bill Prince


Isn't it the other way around?

bp


On 3/24/2015 11:48 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Nanobridges are (in the processing of) replacing Nanobeams.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


ok.cool..I don't Nanobeam...have not had good results.  Rockets M5
for ptp and with sectorsNanobridges with dishes for CPE

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
wrote:

They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average. 
They definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as

I see chew through new better (in part because of the antennas).

Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The
Force110 is rock solid at 30+ mph.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

not bad

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

$225 msrp/each side


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

how much are these?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @
Internet Communications Inc mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 _running link test around 190/90_

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb
at the most

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing
about 45Mb no problem and no issues

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net*


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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

Nanobridges are (in the processing of) replacing Nanobeams.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> ok.cool..I don't Nanobeam...have not had good results.  Rockets M5 for ptp
> and with sectorsNanobridges with dishes for CPE
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average.  They
>> definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as I see chew through
>> new better (in part because of the antennas).
>>
>> Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The Force110 is
>> rock solid at 30+ mph.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote:
>>
>>> not bad
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 $225 msrp/each side


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> how much are these?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
> Communications Inc  wrote:
>
>> Have any of you seen something like this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>>
>> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>>
>> No Ethernet errors
>>
>> UDP router to router test great
>>
>> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>>
>> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>>
>>
>>
>> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and
>> no issues
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>
>>
>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones
>> - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>
>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>> *prohibited.*
>>
>>
>>
>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Jaime Solorza

ok.cool..I don't Nanobeam...have not had good results.  Rockets M5 for ptp
and with sectorsNanobridges with dishes for CPE

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average.  They
> definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as I see chew through
> new better (in part because of the antennas).
>
> Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The Force110 is
> rock solid at 30+ mph.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> not bad
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> $225 msrp/each side
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 how much are these?

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
 Communications Inc  wrote:

> Have any of you seen something like this?
>
>
>
> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>
> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>
> No Ethernet errors
>
> UDP router to router test great
>
> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>
> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>
>
>
> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no
> issues
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones
> - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
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>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

They are excellent antennas.  The radios are above average.  They
definitely outperform Ubnt Nanobeams in RF and as far as I see chew through
new better (in part because of the antennas).

Nanobeams are very flimsy, a slight gust and it rattles.  The Force110 is
rock solid at 30+ mph.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> not bad
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> $225 msrp/each side
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote:
>>
>>> how much are these?
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>>> Inc  wrote:
>>>
 Have any of you seen something like this?

 Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

 -56 *running link test around 190/90*

 No Ethernet errors

 UDP router to router test great

 TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

 Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no
 issues

 *Tyson Burris, President*
 *Internet Communications Inc.*
 *739 Commerce Dr.*
 *Franklin, IN 46131*

 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online: **www.surfici.net* 

 [image: ICI]

 *What can ICI do for you?*

 *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
 IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*

 *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
 *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
 *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
 *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
 *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
 *prohibited.*

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Jaime Solorza

not bad

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> $225 msrp/each side
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> how much are these?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>> Inc  wrote:
>>
>>> Have any of you seen something like this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>>>
>>> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>>>
>>> No Ethernet errors
>>>
>>> UDP router to router test great
>>>
>>> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>>>
>>> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no
>>> issues
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ICI]
>>>
>>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>>
>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>>> *prohibited.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

$225 msrp/each side


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> how much are these?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
> Inc  wrote:
>
>> Have any of you seen something like this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>>
>> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>>
>> No Ethernet errors
>>
>> UDP router to router test great
>>
>> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>>
>> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>>
>>
>>
>> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no
>> issues
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>
>>
>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>
>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>> *prohibited.*
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Jaime Solorza

how much are these?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
Inc  wrote:

> Have any of you seen something like this?
>
>
>
> Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.
>
> -56 *running link test around 190/90*
>
> No Ethernet errors
>
> UDP router to router test great
>
> TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)
>
> Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most
>
>
>
> Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no
> issues
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
> *prohibited.*
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

2015-03-24 Thread Ken Hohhof

I know you say no Ethernet errors, but with those symptoms, it makes sense to 
double check there isn’t an Ethernet speed or duplex mismatch.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 1:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way). 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
 wrote:

  Have any of you seen something like this?

  Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

  -56 running link test around 190/90

  No Ethernet errors

  UDP router to router test great

  TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

  Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

  Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net 

  What can ICI do for you? 

  Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 

  CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
  addressee shown. It contains information that is 
  confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, 
  dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by 
  unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
  prohibited.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue