Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-20 Thread Meyer, Jennifer L
My team felt this thread was very demonstrative of the differences between the 
ITSM functions.  I built a PowerPoint slideshow based on this thread for our 
internal training.  If anyone would like access to it, please mail me off-list.

Jennifer Meyer
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Sounds like tasking

Sanitation to pick up the fridge,
EMS to pick up the person that was hit by the fridge
The doctors who deal with all of us that have been pursuing this
conversation all day.

Hey - if there's beer in the fridge, we might need release management to
get it out.


On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:30 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:
 Wouldn't the contact person for the incident be the next of kin of the
 victims (I imagine they themselves won't be able to contribute much to
the
 report)? But the Change implementer should certainly be the person who
has
 the ability to stop the fridge.  The problem manager though, should that
be
 the City (because it's falling on the street) or the owner of the
building
 it's falling from?
 
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 But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the fridge
 or the owner of the fridge?
 
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 If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is
obviously
 a duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second
 person, is that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?
 
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 If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
 (friday humor from a couple months ago)!
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
 it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
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 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling

Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Joe D'Souza
When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head,
its an incident.. :-)

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem
:-)

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is
between those 3 entities...

Joe
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  **
  Hi All, Can any please let me know the diff b/w Incident, Problem and
Change??



  Thanks  Regards,

  Pavan Kumar




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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Pavan Kumar
Hi Joe, Great example. Thanks

I will have to think of wearing a helmet when I am walking on street as 
well :)

Have a great week end.

Cheers,
Pavan Kumar

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When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head, its 
an incident.. :-)

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem :-)

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future, without 
risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without 
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is 
between those 3 entities...

Joe
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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread LJ LongWing
I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator repeatedly
falls on others, that's a problem..if it keeps falling after it falls on the
first person (through the earth into the core), it's just a continuation of
the same incident.

 

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** 

When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head,
its an incident.. :-)

 

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem
:-)

 

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)

 

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is
between those 3 entities...

 

Joe

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Hi All, Can any please let me know the diff b/w Incident, Problem and
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Thanks  Regards, 

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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread pritch
You'll probably need an Service Request (SRM) to get the helmet!

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 Hi Joe, Great example. Thanks
 
 I will have to think of wearing a helmet when I am walking on street as
 well :)
 
 Have a great week end.
 
 Cheers,
 Pavan Kumar
 
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 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head,
 its an incident.. :-)
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
problem
 :-)
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without
 posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference
 is between those 3 entities...
 
 Joe
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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Benedetto Cantatore
Although I enjoyed Joe's example and it is accurate... you might be looking for 
a bit more info.  This link should help:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Technology_Infrastructure_Library
 
Sections 2.1.2, 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 should help.  
 
Refrigerators falling out of windows are always a problem this time of year.
 
Ben Cantatore
Remedy Manager
(914) 457-6209
 
Emerging Health IT
3 Odell Plaza
Yonkers, New York 10701

 pava...@adea.com 09/10/10 11:22 AM 

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 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head, its 
an incident.. :-)
 
If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem :-)
 
Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future, without 
risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without 
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is 
between those 3 entities...
 
Joe
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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Tommy Morris
If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

 

** 

I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
it's just a continuation of the same incident.

 

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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
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Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

 

** 

When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
head, its an incident.. :-)

 

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
problem :-)

 

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)

 

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
difference is between those 3 entities...

 

Joe

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Subject: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

** 

Hi All, Can any please let me know the diff b/w Incident,
Problem and Change??

 

Thanks  Regards, 

Pavan Kumar

 



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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Pavan Kumar
Thanks Ben, I got this link when I googled.


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Although I enjoyed Joe's example and it is accurate... you might be looking for 
a bit more info.  This link should help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Technology_Infrastructure_Library

Sections 2.1.2, 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 should help.

Refrigerators falling out of windows are always a problem this time of year.

Ben Cantatore
Remedy Manager
(914) 457-6209

Emerging Health IT
3 Odell Plaza
Yonkers, New York 10701

 pava...@adea.com 09/10/10 11:22 AM 
**
Hi Joe, Great example. Thanks

I will have to think of wearing a helmet when I am walking on street as 
well :)

Have a great week end.

Cheers,
Pavan Kumar

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head, its 
an incident.. :-)

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem :-)

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future, without 
risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without 
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is 
between those 3 entities...

Joe
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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Joe D'Souza
That is true.. Problem is usually something that has more of a global
effect, effecting more than just 1 person. A single persons problem even if
it is the same problem each time is generally treated as an incident, unless
there is a genuine reason for it to be classified as a problem..

And most problems are generally addressed by a change..

Even while writing this email I noticed Ben posted a wiki link that should
give the proper definitions of the 3 entities..

Joe
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  **
  I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
repeatedly falls on others, that's a problem..if it keeps falling after it
falls on the first person (through the earth into the core), it's just a
continuation of the same incident.



  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
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  Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
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  **

  When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head,
its an incident.. :-)



  If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
problem :-)



  Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)



  Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is
between those 3 entities...



  Joe

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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:09 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

**

Hi All, Can any please let me know the diff b/w Incident, Problem and
Change??



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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Benedetto Cantatore
So what are you looking for?  More information or clarification on some of the 
finer points?
 
Ben Cantatore
Remedy Manager
(914) 457-6209
 
Emerging Health IT
3 Odell Plaza
Yonkers, New York 10701

 pava...@adea.com 09/10/10 11:37 AM 

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I got this link when I googled.  
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 Although I enjoyed Joe's example and it is accurate... you might be looking 
for a bit more info.  This link should help:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Technology_Infrastructure_Library
 
Sections 2.1.2, 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 should help.  
 
Refrigerators falling out of windows are always a problem this time of year.
 
Ben Cantatore
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Emerging Health IT
3 Odell Plaza
Yonkers, New York 10701

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** Hi Joe, Great example. Thanks  I will have to think of wearing a helmet when 
I am walking on street as well*. J  Have a great week end.  Cheers, Pavan Kumar
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 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head, its 
an incident.. :-)
 
If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem :-)
 
Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future, without 
risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without 
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is 
between those 3 entities...
 
Joe
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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread pascale . boyer
True Joe,  but it would not be in terms that makes us laugh as much and 
simple and easy to understand.
I've forwared your email to my manager...


Thank you so much for the good laugh at the end of a tough week (trying to 
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When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head, 
its an incident.. :-)
 
If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a 
problem :-)
 
Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future, 
without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without 
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference 
is between those 3 entities...
 
Joe
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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Pavan Kumar
Yes Ben, I am actually interested to see more practical examples, Joe has given 
a good example.
The link which you posted got more useful information.

Have a good week end.

Cheers,
Pavan Kumar

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So what are you looking for?  More information or clarification on some of the 
finer points?

Ben Cantatore
Remedy Manager
(914) 457-6209

Emerging Health IT
3 Odell Plaza
Yonkers, New York 10701

 pava...@adea.com 09/10/10 11:37 AM 
**
Thanks Ben, I got this link when I googled.


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Although I enjoyed Joe's example and it is accurate... you might be looking for 
a bit more info.  This link should help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Technology_Infrastructure_Library

Sections 2.1.2, 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 should help.

Refrigerators falling out of windows are always a problem this time of year.

Ben Cantatore
Remedy Manager
(914) 457-6209

Emerging Health IT
3 Odell Plaza
Yonkers, New York 10701

 pava...@adea.com 09/10/10 11:22 AM 
**
Hi Joe, Great example. Thanks

I will have to think of wearing a helmet when I am walking on street as 
well :)

Have a great week end.

Cheers,
Pavan Kumar

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When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head, its 
an incident.. :-)

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem :-)

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future, without 
risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without 
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is 
between those 3 entities...

Joe
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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Joe D'Souza
Wouldn't it be cool if you could have voice recorded bulletins in Remedy? I
wonder if it is possible by using an audio file or video file as an
attachment, and somehow calling a media device such as quick time, and
playing that audio file or video file with the Refrigerator falling from
the sky alert!

That would make for a very cool multi-media like home page..

Joe
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  **
  If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that a
Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.



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  **

  I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
repeatedly falls on others, that's a problem..if it keeps falling after it
falls on the first person (through the earth into the core), it's just a
continuation of the same incident.



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  **

  When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head,
its an incident.. :-)



  If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
problem :-)



  Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)



  Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is
between those 3 entities...



  Joe

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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread LJ LongWing
LOL, I'm glad it's Friday..

 

Then, if this is in fact an occurrence, I think the Refrigerator
manufacturer might want to go into the drilling business.kuz that's one
awesome appliance

 

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** 

If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that a
Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.

 

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** 

I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator repeatedly
falls on others, that's a problem..if it keeps falling after it falls on the
first person (through the earth into the core), it's just a continuation of
the same incident.

 

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** 

When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head,
its an incident.. :-)

 

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem
:-)

 

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)

 

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is
between those 3 entities...

 

Joe

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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread LJ LongWing
Pascale,

I upgraded 10 of them last month..god speed.

 

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** 
True Joe,  but it would not be in terms that makes us laugh as much and
simple and easy to understand.
I've forwared your email to my manager...


Thank you so much for the good laugh at the end of a tough week (trying to
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Pascale






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** 
When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head,
its an incident.. :-)
 
If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem
:-)
 
Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is
between those 3 entities...
 
Joe
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Thanks  Regards, 
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Reiser, John J
Joe,
Couldn't you build a few small .html files with embedded audio files and run 
the appropriate one in a Data Visualization field?
I tried something once with a view field and a .wav file welcoming you to the 
Helpdesk home page. They made me turn it off that afternoon.


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**
Wouldn't it be cool if you could have voice recorded bulletins in Remedy? I 
wonder if it is possible by using an audio file or video file as an attachment, 
and somehow calling a media device such as quick time, and playing that audio 
file or video file with the Refrigerator falling from the sky alert!

That would make for a very cool multi-media like home page..

Joe
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**
If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that a 
Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.

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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
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Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

**
I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator repeatedly 
falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling after it falls on the 
first person (through the earth into the core), it's just a continuation of the 
same incident.

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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
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Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

**
When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head, its 
an incident.. :-)

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem :-)

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future, without 
risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without 
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is 
between those 3 entities...

Joe
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread pritch
Depending on how it's implemented, it could open up some challenges with
section 508 compliance.

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:35:01 -0400, Reiser, John J
john.j.rei...@lmco.com wrote:
 Joe,
 Couldn't you build a few small .html files with embedded audio files and
 run the appropriate one in a Data Visualization field?
 I tried something once with a view field and a .wav file welcoming you to
 the Helpdesk home page. They made me turn it off that afternoon.
 
 
 ---
 John J. Reiser
 Senior Software Development Analyst
 Remedy Administrator/Developer
 Lockheed Martin - MS2
 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
 Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by
 me
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 Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
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 Wouldn't it be cool if you could have voice recorded bulletins in Remedy?
I
 wonder if it is possible by using an audio file or video file as an
 attachment, and somehow calling a media device such as quick time, and
 playing that audio file or video file with the Refrigerator falling from
 the sky alert!
 
 That would make for a very cool multi-media like home page..
 
 Joe
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 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:40 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 **
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that a
 Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
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 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 **
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
repeatedly
 falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling after it falls
on
 the first person (through the earth into the core), it's just a
 continuation of the same incident.
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 **
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head,
 its an incident.. :-)
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
problem
 :-)
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without
 posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference
 is between those 3 entities...
 
 Joe
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 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:09 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 **
 Hi All, Can any please let me know the diff b/w Incident, Problem and
 Change??
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 Pavan Kumar
 
 
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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Richard Copits
An incident is when the refrigerator falls from a windows...
A problem is when it falls on your boss or girlfriend
A change is what will happen when they find out it was you that let it slip


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**
That is true.. Problem is usually something that has more of a global effect, 
effecting more than just 1 person. A single persons problem even if it is the 
same problem each time is generally treated as an incident, unless there is a 
genuine reason for it to be classified as a problem..

And most problems are generally addressed by a change..

Even while writing this email I noticed Ben posted a wiki link that should give 
the proper definitions of the 3 entities..

Joe
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Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
**
I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator repeatedly 
falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling after it falls on the 
first person (through the earth into the core), it's just a continuation of the 
same incident.

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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

**
When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head, its 
an incident.. :-)

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem :-)

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future, without 
risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without 
posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is 
between those 3 entities...

Joe
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Subject: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
**
Hi All, Can any please let me know the diff b/w Incident, Problem and Change??

Thanks  Regards,
Pavan Kumar


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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Herb Partlow
Ah. Good Friday humor 

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On Sep 10, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us wrote:

 **
 An incident is when the refrigerator falls from a windows…
 
 A problem is when it falls on your boss or girlfriend….
 
 A change is what will happen when they find out it was you that let it slip….
 
  
 
  
 
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 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
  
 
 **
 
 That is true.. Problem is usually something that has more of a global effect, 
 effecting more than just 1 person. A single persons problem even if it is the 
 same problem each time is generally treated as an incident, unless there is a 
 genuine reason for it to be classified as a problem..
 
  
 
 And most problems are generally addressed by a change..
 
  
 
 Even while writing this email I noticed Ben posted a wiki link that should 
 give the proper definitions of the 3 entities..
 
  
 
 Joe
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:34 AM
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 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 **
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator repeatedly 
 falls on others, that’s a problem….if it keeps falling after it falls on the 
 first person (through the earth into the core), it’s just a continuation of 
 the same incident.
 
  
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
  
 
 **
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your head, its 
 an incident.. :-)
 
  
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a problem 
 :-)
 
  
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future, 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
  
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think without 
 posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the difference is 
 between those 3 entities...
 
  
 
 Joe
 
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 **
 
 Hi All, Can any please let me know the diff b/w Incident, Problem and Change??
 
  
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Pavan Kumar
 
  
 
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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Ramey, Anne
And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let it 
slip, that's a known error.

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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

Tommy Morris
Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700

If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that

a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.







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**



I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator

repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling

after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),

it's just a continuation of the same incident.







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Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change







**



When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your

head, its an incident.. :-)







If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a

problem :-)







Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,

without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)







Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think

without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the

difference is between those 3 entities...







Joe




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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread pritch
If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
(friday humor from a couple months ago)!

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
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 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
 
 without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
 
 difference is between those 3 entities...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 

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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Ramey, Anne
If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is obviously a 
duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second person, is 
that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?

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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
(friday humor from a couple months ago)!

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
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 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
 
 without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
 
 difference is between those 3 entities...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 

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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Tommy Morris
If it bounces twice and hits tow additional people that is a recurring Incident 
and a template should be created to make the documentation easier.

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If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is obviously a 
duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second person, is 
that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?

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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
(friday humor from a couple months ago)!

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
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 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
 
 without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
 
 difference is between those 3 entities...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 

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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Tommy Morris
But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the fridge or 
the owner of the fridge?

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Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is obviously a 
duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second person, is 
that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?

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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
(friday humor from a couple months ago)!

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
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 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
 
 without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
 
 difference is between those 3 entities...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 

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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Ramey, Anne
Wouldn't the contact person for the incident be the next of kin of the victims 
(I imagine they themselves won't be able to contribute much to the report)? But 
the Change implementer should certainly be the person who has the ability to 
stop the fridge.  The problem manager though, should that be the City (because 
it's falling on the street) or the owner of the building it's falling from?

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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the fridge or 
the owner of the fridge?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:38 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is obviously a 
duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second person, is 
that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?

Anne Ramey
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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
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Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
(friday humor from a couple months ago)!

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North
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 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
 
 without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
 
 difference is between those 3 entities...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 

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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread pritch
and if it hits someone on their way to root for their favorite team, it
might just be a case of the fridge hitting the fan

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:43:11 -0500, Tommy Morris
tommy.mor...@radioshack.com wrote:
 But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the fridge
 or the owner of the fridge?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:38 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is
obviously
 a duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second
 person, is that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
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North
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 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
 (friday humor from a couple months ago)!
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
 it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
 
 without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
 
 difference is between those 3 entities...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 


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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread LJ LongWing
And if a tree growing caused the fridge to tip over, that would be the 'root 
cause'

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:47 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

and if it hits someone on their way to root for their favorite team, it
might just be a case of the fridge hitting the fan

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:43:11 -0500, Tommy Morris
tommy.mor...@radioshack.com wrote:
 But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the fridge
 or the owner of the fridge?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:38 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is
obviously
 a duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second
 person, is that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
 (friday humor from a couple months ago)!
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
 it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
 
 without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
 
 difference is between those 3 entities...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 


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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread pritch
Sounds like tasking

Sanitation to pick up the fridge,
EMS to pick up the person that was hit by the fridge
The doctors who deal with all of us that have been pursuing this
conversation all day.

Hey - if there's beer in the fridge, we might need release management to
get it out.


On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:30 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:
 Wouldn't the contact person for the incident be the next of kin of the
 victims (I imagine they themselves won't be able to contribute much to
the
 report)? But the Change implementer should certainly be the person who
has
 the ability to stop the fridge.  The problem manager though, should that
be
 the City (because it's falling on the street) or the owner of the
building
 it's falling from?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Morris
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:43 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the fridge
 or the owner of the fridge?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:38 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is
obviously
 a duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second
 person, is that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
 (friday humor from a couple months ago)!
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
 it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
 
 without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
 
 difference is between those 3 entities...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 


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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Neely, Leonard
All this is the result of incorrect Foundation Data...

Leonard Neely


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:22 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

Sounds like tasking

Sanitation to pick up the fridge,
EMS to pick up the person that was hit by the fridge
The doctors who deal with all of us that have been pursuing this
conversation all day.

Hey - if there's beer in the fridge, we might need release management to
get it out.


On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:30 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:
 Wouldn't the contact person for the incident be the next of kin of the
 victims (I imagine they themselves won't be able to contribute much to
the
 report)? But the Change implementer should certainly be the person who
has
 the ability to stop the fridge.  The problem manager though, should that
be
 the City (because it's falling on the street) or the owner of the
building
 it's falling from?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Morris
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:43 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the fridge
 or the owner of the fridge?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:38 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is
obviously
 a duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second
 person, is that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
 (friday humor from a couple months ago)!
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
 it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
 
 without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
 
 difference is between those 3 entities...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 


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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Tommy Morris
I wish I was going to RUG his year so we could diagram this fridge scenario. 
Sounds like it would be a great after-hours session.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Neely, Leonard
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:24 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

All this is the result of incorrect Foundation Data...

Leonard Neely


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:22 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

Sounds like tasking

Sanitation to pick up the fridge,
EMS to pick up the person that was hit by the fridge
The doctors who deal with all of us that have been pursuing this
conversation all day.

Hey - if there's beer in the fridge, we might need release management to
get it out.


On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:30 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:
 Wouldn't the contact person for the incident be the next of kin of the
 victims (I imagine they themselves won't be able to contribute much to
the
 report)? But the Change implementer should certainly be the person who
has
 the ability to stop the fridge.  The problem manager though, should that
be
 the City (because it's falling on the street) or the owner of the
building
 it's falling from?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Morris
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:43 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the fridge
 or the owner of the fridge?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:38 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is
obviously
 a duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second
 person, is that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
 (friday humor from a couple months ago)!
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um, let
 it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
 
 without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry Pavan

Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread pritch
Do you think Demonstrations would be needed?

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:39:47 -0500, Tommy Morris
tommy.mor...@radioshack.com wrote:
 I wish I was going to RUG his year so we could diagram this fridge
 scenario. Sounds like it would be a great after-hours session.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Neely, Leonard
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:24 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 All this is the result of incorrect Foundation Data...
 
 Leonard Neely
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:22 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Sounds like tasking
 
 Sanitation to pick up the fridge,
 EMS to pick up the person that was hit by the fridge
 The doctors who deal with all of us that have been pursuing this
 conversation all day.
 
 Hey - if there's beer in the fridge, we might need release management to
 get it out.
 
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:30 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 Wouldn't the contact person for the incident be the next of kin of the
 victims (I imagine they themselves won't be able to contribute much to
 the
 report)? But the Change implementer should certainly be the person who
 has
 the ability to stop the fridge.  The problem manager though, should that
 be
 the City (because it's falling on the street) or the owner of the
 building
 it's falling from?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Morris
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:43 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the
fridge
 or the owner of the fridge?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:38 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is
 obviously
 a duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second
 person, is that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
 (friday humor from a couple months ago)!
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um,
let
 it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
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 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
 
 head, its an incident.. :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
 
 problem

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Joe D'Souza
I never tried anything to achieve something like that.. its just a thought
that occurred after Tommy Morris posted the comment about a broadcast
bulletin with a critical priority. The view field or DVF field would be the
only way of displaying it for sure, I was just thinking aloud on how you
would set one of these field with the appropriate media player embedded in
it..

Joe
  -Original Message-
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Reiser, John J
  Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:35 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change


  **
  Joe,

  Couldn't you build a few small .html files with embedded audio files and
run the appropriate one in a Data Visualization field?

  I tried something once with a view field and a .wav file welcoming you to
the Helpdesk home page. They made me turn it off that afternoon.





  ---
  John J. Reiser
  Senior Software Development Analyst
  Remedy Administrator/Developer
  Lockheed Martin - MS2
  The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
  Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
me

  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
  Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:00 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change



  **

  Wouldn't it be cool if you could have voice recorded bulletins in Remedy?
I wonder if it is possible by using an audio file or video file as an
attachment, and somehow calling a media device such as quick time, and
playing that audio file or video file with the Refrigerator falling from
the sky alert!



  That would make for a very cool multi-media like home page..



  Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Tommy Morris
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

**

If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change



**

I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
repeatedly falls on others, that's a problem..if it keeps falling after it
falls on the first person (through the earth into the core), it's just a
continuation of the same incident.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change



**

When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator falls on your
head, its an incident.. :-)



If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind of becomes a
problem :-)



Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall in the future,
without risking any other casualty, is called a change.. :-)



Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I could think
without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of explain what the
difference is between those 3 entities...



Joe

  -Original Message-
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Pavan Kumar
  Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:09 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

  **

  Hi All, Can any please let me know the diff b/w Incident, Problem and
Change??



  Thanks  Regards,

  Pavan Kumar




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Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Joe D'Souza
Yes yes!! And a video of it posted duly on youtube or twitter!! lol

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 6:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change


Do you think Demonstrations would be needed?

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:39:47 -0500, Tommy Morris
tommy.mor...@radioshack.com wrote:
 I wish I was going to RUG his year so we could diagram this fridge
 scenario. Sounds like it would be a great after-hours session.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Neely, Leonard
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:24 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 All this is the result of incorrect Foundation Data...
 
 Leonard Neely
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:22 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Sounds like tasking
 
 Sanitation to pick up the fridge,
 EMS to pick up the person that was hit by the fridge
 The doctors who deal with all of us that have been pursuing this
 conversation all day.
 
 Hey - if there's beer in the fridge, we might need release management to
 get it out.
 
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:30 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 Wouldn't the contact person for the incident be the next of kin of the
 victims (I imagine they themselves won't be able to contribute much to
 the
 report)? But the Change implementer should certainly be the person who
 has
 the ability to stop the fridge.  The problem manager though, should that
 be
 the City (because it's falling on the street) or the owner of the
 building
 it's falling from?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
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by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Morris
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:43 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the
fridge
 or the owner of the fridge?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:38 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is
 obviously
 a duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second
 person, is that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?
 
 Anne Ramey
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 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
 (friday humor from a couple months ago)!
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um,
let
 it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
 by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator
 
 repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps falling
 
 after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the core),
 
 it's just a continuation of the same incident.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Tommy Morris
We have a dvf that has an embedded gif and flashes a red border around
the broadcast on our end-user page. The dvf is only visible for critical
broadcasts. Kind of cheesy from a developer standpoint but the business
partners love it. Flashing colors and graphs ya know.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 6:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

 

** 

I never tried anything to achieve something like that.. its just a
thought that occurred after Tommy Morris posted the comment about a
broadcast bulletin with a critical priority. The view field or DVF field
would be the only way of displaying it for sure, I was just thinking
aloud on how you would set one of these field with the appropriate media
player embedded in it..

 

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident
..problem..change

** 

Joe,

Couldn't you build a few small .html files with embedded audio
files and run the appropriate one in a Data Visualization field?

I tried something once with a view field and a .wav file
welcoming you to the Helpdesk home page. They made me turn it off that
afternoon.

 

 

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Remedy Administrator/Developer 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. -
paraphrased by me 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

 

** 

Wouldn't it be cool if you could have voice recorded bulletins
in Remedy? I wonder if it is possible by using an audio file or video
file as an attachment, and somehow calling a media device such as quick
time, and playing that audio file or video file with the Refrigerator
falling from the sky alert!

 

That would make for a very cool multi-media like home page..

 

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Tommy Morris
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

** 

If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth
I believe that a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a
critical priority.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

 

** 

I would revise that to say that a problem is if the
refrigerator repeatedly falls on others, that's a problemif it keeps
falling after it falls on the first person (through the earth into the
core), it's just a continuation of the same incident.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

 

** 

When you are walking on the street, if a refrigerator
falls on your head, its an incident.. :-)

 

If that refrigerator keeps falling thereafter, it kind
of becomes a problem :-)

 

Whatever you might do for that refrigerator not to fall
in the future, without risking any other casualty, is called a change..
:-)

 

Sorry Pavan, its Friday and that's the best example I
could think without posting a Friday Humor thread and yet kind of
explain what the difference is between those 3 entities...

 

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion
list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Pavan Kumar
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:09 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

2010-09-10 Thread Tommy Morris
Can we volunteer the actors? I have a list of people who should walk under a 
fridge lol

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 6:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change

Yes yes!! And a video of it posted duly on youtube or twitter!! lol

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 6:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change


Do you think Demonstrations would be needed?

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:39:47 -0500, Tommy Morris
tommy.mor...@radioshack.com wrote:
 I wish I was going to RUG his year so we could diagram this fridge
 scenario. Sounds like it would be a great after-hours session.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Neely, Leonard
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:24 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 All this is the result of incorrect Foundation Data...
 
 Leonard Neely
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:22 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Sounds like tasking
 
 Sanitation to pick up the fridge,
 EMS to pick up the person that was hit by the fridge
 The doctors who deal with all of us that have been pursuing this
 conversation all day.
 
 Hey - if there's beer in the fridge, we might need release management to
 get it out.
 
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:30 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 Wouldn't the contact person for the incident be the next of kin of the
 victims (I imagine they themselves won't be able to contribute much to
 the
 report)? But the Change implementer should certainly be the person who
 has
 the ability to stop the fridge.  The problem manager though, should that
 be
 the City (because it's falling on the street) or the owner of the
 building
 it's falling from?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Morris
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:43 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 But out of all of this who is the contact person? The one with the
fridge
 or the owner of the fridge?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:38 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If the fridge falls on two people at once, the second person's is
 obviously
 a duplicate incident, but if the fridge bounces and falls on a second
 person, is that a duplicate incident as well-or just a related incident?
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 If someone is hiding in the fridge, is that an undocumented feature?
 (friday humor from a couple months ago)!
 
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:22:21 -0400, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
 wrote:
 And if you know where the refridgerator is falling from and who, um,
let
 it
 slip, that's a known error.
 
 Anne Ramey
 ***
 E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North
 Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
 by
 an authorized State Official.
 
 Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 Tommy Morris
 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:41:19 -0700
 
 If the refrigerator is punching a hole through the earth I believe that
 
 a Broadcast Bulletin would need to be created with a critical priority.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
 
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 AM
 
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Subject: Re: diff b/w .. Incident ..problem..change
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 
 
 I would revise that to say that a problem is if the refrigerator