Re: [asterisk-users] * as VM for legacy PBX?

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
As others have said, this is certainly possible.  Our old NEC phone  
system had us in the same boat. It triggered voicemail by ringing  
the VM extension(s) and sending a DTMF burst of the extension to  
record VM for within 1.5 seconds.  In our case, when any call came it  
in went to the voicemail system to play the main menu and allow the  
person to dial an extension.  With that we were able to move a small  
set of power users to SIP phones for testing before we decided on a  
final phone and moved the whole campus.

Daniel

On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:

 Hi, all.  I've got an old Telrad PBX with an Emagen(?) voicemail  
 box.  The
 VM box, itself, is beginning to show its age.  Big-time.  We're  
 thinking it
 might be time to look for a replacement.  I'd love to install Asterisk
 with an FXO card or something, but I don't think it supports whatever
 protocol legacy PBX's used to speak to VM systems.  If someone can  
 tell me
 I'm wrong, a six pack of their favorite $BEVERAGE will magically  
 appear at
 their door.

 Thanks much!

 -Ken



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Re: [asterisk-users] Normalize Voicemail Volume?

2009-06-26 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
I use the following script to perform compression and normalization on  
e-mailed voicemails.  I put the script in as /usr/local/bin/sox and  
pre-pend /usr/local/bin to the PATH before asterisk runs in the  
startup script.

The values for the compressor are not scientific, I monkeyed with them  
until I thought it sounded like a good volume, YMMV.

Daniel

#!/bin/sh
#
# $1 = -v
# $2 = number
# $3 = inFile
# $4 = outFile
#
REALSOX=/usr/bin/sox

if [ $1 != -v ]; then
   $REALSOX $*
   exit $?
fi

INFILE=$3
OUTFILE=$4

#
# Perform the gain adjustment.
#
$REALSOX $INFILE $OUTFILE compand 0.1,0.3  
-60,-60,-30,-15,-20,-12,-4,-8,-2,-7 0 0 0.2


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

 We generally get our voicemails emailed to us from asterisk, but some
 people's messages are extraordinarily loud or quiet.  I don't suppose
 there is any feature to even out the volume level is there?


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Re: [asterisk-users] snom mass deploy help

2009-06-18 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Jun 18, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Philipp Kempgen wrote:

 I think I would prefer this method, but I can't find where to set
 asterisk to listen to the multicast address nor where to program the
 notify reply

 I have already told you that Asterisk is not involved in the process
 of configuring the phone.
 In order to use Snom's PnP configuration method you have to write a
 daemon which opens a socket on 224.0.1.75 (sip.mcast.net), join the
 multicast group, read packets and send appropriate ua-profile
 notification events.
 Have a look at the code I mentioned to get the idea.

As Philipp said, you don't.  However it would make a great 3rd party  
module that could be added to Asterisk.  I use a combination of the  
PnP and web redirects (early V6 versions did not support the PnP, but  
they do automatically request a file from the DHCP web server) and  
MySQL databases.  It is now set where we just add the MAC address to  
the database and plug the phone it.  It auto-configures the rest  
(along with firmware updates).

Daniel



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Re: [asterisk-users] US Caller ID

2009-05-01 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On May 1, 2009, at 7:18 AM, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

 The *BEST* solution would be to have Verizon switch you over to a PRI.

Assuming they were able to do this without a dramatic increase to our  
bill, would the same hardware still work?  Sorry I don't have the  
exact model number but it is Digium's 2-port digital interface card  
with HW echo canceler, using the wct4xxp driver.

Daniel

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 17:29, Daniel Hazelbaker
 dan...@highdesertchurch.com wrote:
 Okay, I can't find what might be causing this.  Here is what I got:

 Asterisk server hooked up to a digital T1 line (full 24-channel)  
 via a
 Digium card.
 Verizon has turned on caller ID on the first line (I can guarantee it
 is on as I can hear the FSK tones on this line but not the others).
 Using zttool an ZapScan() I have determined the following:

 1) The RxB/RxD bits toggle from 1 to 0 signaling a ring.
 2) A short time later, via ZapScan() I can hear the FSK tone.
 3) About the same time I hear the FSK tone I see the Starting simple
 switch line in the Asterisk console.
 4) Next I see the second ring trigger in zttool and then Asterisk say
 ss_thread: Got event 18 (Ring Begin).

 Caller ID never shows up.  I have tried cranking the rxgain up
 thinking maybe it was too quiet for Asterisk to detect but that did
 not help.  My caller id settings in zapata.conf are:

 usecallerid=yes
 callerid=asreceived
 cidsignalling=bell
 cidstart=ring
 signalling=fxs_ks

 Is there any existing debug options I can turn on, or do I need to  
 add
 some to try and figure out what is going on; or does somebody have an
 instant answer for me?

 Thanks,
 Daniel

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[asterisk-users] US Caller ID

2009-04-29 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Okay, I can't find what might be causing this.  Here is what I got:

Asterisk server hooked up to a digital T1 line (full 24-channel) via a  
Digium card.
Verizon has turned on caller ID on the first line (I can guarantee it  
is on as I can hear the FSK tones on this line but not the others).
Using zttool an ZapScan() I have determined the following:

1) The RxB/RxD bits toggle from 1 to 0 signaling a ring.
2) A short time later, via ZapScan() I can hear the FSK tone.
3) About the same time I hear the FSK tone I see the Starting simple  
switch line in the Asterisk console.
4) Next I see the second ring trigger in zttool and then Asterisk say  
ss_thread: Got event 18 (Ring Begin).

Caller ID never shows up.  I have tried cranking the rxgain up  
thinking maybe it was too quiet for Asterisk to detect but that did  
not help.  My caller id settings in zapata.conf are:

usecallerid=yes
callerid=asreceived
cidsignalling=bell
cidstart=ring
signalling=fxs_ks

Is there any existing debug options I can turn on, or do I need to add  
some to try and figure out what is going on; or does somebody have an  
instant answer for me?

Thanks,
Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] Change Termination of Read Command

2009-04-27 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Apr 27, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Danny Nicholas wrote:


Greetings all,
   This is a “just-for-fun” question.   I was  
reading the support forum and a fellow there wanted Read() to stop  
on * instead of #.  I thought that changing app_read.c would resolve  
this


current
if (tmp[x-1] == '#') {
tmp[x-1] = '\0';
break;

new
}if (tmp[x-1] == '*') {
tmp[x-1] = '\0';
break;
}

He applied and recompiled, but no joy. Any ideas why?


Without knowing where in the file this came from I can't say for sure,  
but that code looks to me like the code that would run after the  
digits are received and is stripping off the # character at the end,  
if it is there.  Further up (or somewhere else entirely) there is  
probably a spot that actually terminates the read command when # is  
pressed.


Daniel




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Re: [asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

2009-03-16 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Mar 16, 2009, at 3:53 PM, SIP wrote:

 David Ruggles wrote:
 I was looking at the aastra 9133i, however I was informed that this  
 phone is
 no longer supported. What are good phones around the $100 - $125  
 price
 point? (Need POE)

 Thanks,

 David Ruggles
 CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
 Network Engineer Safe Data, Inc.
 (910) 285-7200   da...@safedatausa.com




 I believe SNOM 300s do PoE (might have to check that, though) and are
 around $100. We've little experience with them, but we use an office
 full of Snom 320s, and we're nothing but pleased with them. Good
 speaker, good handset, lots of excellent options. And reasonably  
 priced.

They do, we have a bunch of 300's (and 320's) deployed as PoE.

Daniel




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[asterisk-users] Continue in dialplan on hangup

2009-02-27 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Is there a way to force a channel to continue in the dialplan after  
the remote end hangs up?

Specifically, I am trying to play around with setting up a fax  
server.  I can receive the fax, but sometimes the sending fax hangs up  
before my System command for printing can run and the fax never  
prints.  I know I can work around by setting up a custom context and  
use the 'h' extension, but I am hoping for a more simple method.

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] Continue in dialplan on hangup

2009-02-27 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Anthony Messina wrote:

 On Friday 27 February 2009 14:03:19 Doug Lytle wrote:
 Daniel Hazelbaker wrote:
 Specifically, I am trying to play around with setting up a fax
 server.  I can receive the fax, but sometimes the sending fax  
 hangs up

 If your looking into setting up a reliable fax server and your not  
 doing
 it over IP, then your best results will be using HylaFAX+ and  
 iaxmodem
 with Asterisk.

 HylaFAX+ handles the printing/re-faxing/fax2email of all
 inbound/outbound faxes via it's FaxDispatch script.  It's a 'Set and
 forget (tm)' package.  I absolutely love it.

 Doug

 Or, if you're using Asterisk 1.6 and looking to try something new,  
 take a look
 at http://messinet.com/AsteriskFAXGateway

I'll take a look at both packages.  I hadn't given HylaFAX(+) any  
thought as when I searched initially I found just the old version of  
HylaFAX that last had a release in 2007, which makes me a bit  
nervous. :)

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] Snom 300 vs Grandstream gxp

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Jan 16, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:

 Can anyone who has used both comment on the pros and cons ? Need to  
 buy
 about 30 of these, for a small company with limited IT support.

We recently deployed 85 phones to our office.  We tested the  
Grandstream GXP2000, GXP2020, Linksys SPA941, Snom 300  320, and a  
Polycom 430 (I think that was the series).  As an IT department we  
expected everybody to prefer the Grandstream because it is simple to  
use.  We figured everybody would have the Snom because it is complex  
to use (though super easy on the IT side to administer).  We had the  
opposite result.  Everybody hated the Grandstream because they sounded  
bad, felt clunky, were difficult to do simple things on (like park a  
call, can't do it with one button).  Nobody really cared for either  
the Linksys or Polycom.  They were just too limited.

We ended up rolling out a mixture of the Snom 300 and 320s and  
couldn't be happier (We looked at the 360, but it really doesn't offer  
anything except a bigger display, which isn't really utilized).  With  
a simple MySQL database and a few PHP scripts all we had to do was  
type the MAC address of the phone into the MySQL database (with the  
login information) and then plug the phones in.  No setup on the  
phone.  Phone automatically upgrades the firmware to whatever version  
we currently use, gets its settings from the server, etc.  If a phone  
has trouble (out of the 85 we had 2 that were a bit finicky and got  
replaced), we go into the database and change the MAC address and then  
plug in the new phone.  Again, no setup.

If you go Snom I would be happy to share these scripts, I just haven't  
gotten around to building up a nice package and posting them.  If your  
choices are either Snom or Grandstream, I would so go Snom.  I spent 2  
days trying to configure the GXP's to do the few simple things we  
wanted and couldn't pull it off (call parking, BLF  one-touch dial  
[does not fully work], etc).  I spent 30 minutes on the Snom an had it  
perfectly configured.

 Julian


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Re: [asterisk-users] Experiences with grandstream GXW 4024 FXS?

2008-12-24 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
I use the GXW-4008 and have never had any problems with it.  Right now  
it runs 3 analog phones, but we were using it to link our old NEC  
phone system to the new Asterisk system, so it was used quite a bit  
and never once had an issue.

Daniel

On Dec 24, 2008, at 5:30 AM, Hector Quiroz wrote:

 HI all,
 does anyone already implemented the GXW-4024 FXS?
 Some distributors doesn't recommend it for high volume operations.
 regards,
 Hector.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Dailplan code for holiday detection?

2008-12-23 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
We chose to use a mySQL database to store the holiday information.   
When a call is answered we query the database to see if there is a  
holiday greeting recorded, if so we play the indicated greeting,  
otherwise play the default menu greeting. (We do our dialplans in AEL)


context checkHoliday {
 s =
   {
begin:

 MYSQL(Connect temp communicator username password  
asterisk);
 MYSQL(Query resultid ${temp} SELECT greeting FROM  
menuGreetings WHERE startTime=FROM_UNIXTIME(${EPOCH}) AND  
endTime=FROM_UNIXTIME(${EPOCH}) LIMIT 1);
 MYSQL(Fetch foundRow ${resultid} sqlGreeting);
 MYSQL(Clear ${resultid});
 MYSQL(Disconnect ${temp});

 if (${foundRow}==1)
 {
 Background(custom/mainMenu/${sqlGreeting});
 goto mainMenu,s,begin;
 }
 else
 {
 goto checkTime,s,begin;
 }
 }
 includes
   {
mainMenu;
 tempGreeting;
 voicemail;
 publicExt;
 }
};


The 'checkTime' context simply checks if we are open or closed and  
plays the appropriate greeting (if no holiday greeting is found).

Daniel

On Dec 23, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Scott L. Lykens wrote:

 Not the most elegant but since I have a generic context for my IVRs I
 simple check the date there.

 exten = s,n,GotoIfTime(*|*|1|jan?closed-holiday|1)
 exten = s,n,GotoIfTime(*|*|10|apr?closed-holiday|1)
 exten = s,n,GotoIfTime(*|*|25|may?closed-holiday|1)
 exten = s,n,GotoIfTime(*|*|3|jul?closed-holiday|1)
 exten = s,n,GotoIfTime(*|*|7|sep?closed-holiday|1)
 exten = s,n,GotoIfTime(*|*|26|nov?closed-holiday|1)
 exten = s,n,GotoIfTime(*|*|27|nov?closed-holiday|1)
 exten = s,n,GotoIfTime(*|*|25|dec?closed-holiday|1)
 exten = s,n,GotoIfTime(*|*|26|dec?closed-holiday|1)

 exten =
 closed-holiday,1,Background(ivr-closed-holiday-${AUTOATTENDANT}||)
 exten = closed-holiday,n,Hangup

 This is next year's holidays for us but with this year's Christmas  
 days
 in it.

 sl

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Re: [asterisk-users] CDR Design

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Grey Man wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Steve Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Everyone--

 I've just made some major changes to the CDRfix2.rfc.txt
 file in http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/murf/RFCs
 to accommodate the Leg approach instead of a
 channel-based approach.


 Hi murf,

 I've got a couple of points (as always) from the new design.

 First one would be the generation of CDRs when putting a call on hold.
 I don't think that should occur. When a call is put on hold Asterisk
 never changes the endpoints of a call all it does is possibly change
 the media to one or both of the call ends. CDRs are about call
 endpoints not about media transitions. In SIP terms putting a call on
 hold is no different to changing codecs both operations are re-INVITES
 and are irrelevant as far as CDRs and billing go.

While I agree with your reasoning, I really like the idea of the CDR  
showing HOLD states.  It allows me to generate a report on how often  
people are on hold.  If I see that the incoming calls to my  
receptionist spend 15% of the time on hold, that means something to  
me.  If someone doesn't care to know the hold states, they (or their  
script) can just ignore the HOLD CDR records.  I don't see that it  
would impact any final numbers to just skip them, you still get the  
total call duration between point A and point B.

Daniel

 Regards,

 Greyman.


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Re: [asterisk-users] CDR Desgin

2008-12-01 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:07 AM, JD wrote:

 Steve Murphy wrote:

 Freddi--

 Very interesting. Brian Degenhardt had some code we just gave some
 thought
 to, wherein we determine if the last channel involved in a linkedID  
 set
 has been closed. If so, then the entire set is finished. We can use  
 this
 facility to get you a closing attribute, that could be added to the  
 last
 CDR emmitted for that set; OR, we could just emit another CDR with  
 type
 CLOSE or FINAL or something, that signals the end of the chain.

 murf

 Just thinking out loud: how about a feature wherein, after the FINAL  
 is
 sent, asterisk can
  1. create a temp text file with just those entries, and
  2. launch a user-made script.

 cdr_manager.conf
  [general]
  legparsecmd=/usr/local/bin/my_parser.pl

 wherein the linkedID is passed as the first parameter and the text  
 file
 namepath as the second

 Ignore this suggestion if it horribly complicates things.

Hmm.. While I normally like having this kind of instant  
notification, I could see this as a very big problem for larger  
installations.  Most OS's are not so great at launching new tasks, and  
on a heavily loaded system that could easily be a number of tasks  
launched every second, each doing a lot of database queries.  Perhaps  
a different approach would be to have a field that can be set to show  
that the record(s) have been parsed into whatever standard CDR format  
you want.  This may or may not make more sense as a separate table  
with just a list of linkedid's that have been parsed.

Daniel



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Re: [asterisk-users] Using MAC or extension number as SIP identifier

2008-11-20 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
It will auto-complete if you hit tab, just like the shell.  But I  
would recommend against it.  I can't really think of a good reason to  
do it.  'sip show peer 268' I can remember to see that status of  
extension 268 when somebody calls and says I can't dial 268.   
Whereas 'sip show peer 00147...wtf was his MAC address again?', I have  
to lookup the extension somewhere and find the MAC address.

Any reason you want to use the MAC address?  If it is just for easy  
provisioning, I just put a MAC address field in the realtime SIP table  
and use a php script to take the phone's MAC address and feed it the  
login information it needs.

Daniel

 Hi,

 For a long time, I was wondering if I should use MAC address instead  
 of Extension number to identify SIP endpoints (as I'm mostly not  
 using softphones).

 Before diving into this, I wondered how people using MAC address are  
 using CLI as it seems more natural and simple to type
 sip show peer 4566  as opposed to sip show peer 00147F784512.
 Is there something obvious I'm missing (auto-completion ?  
 aliasing ? ...) ?

 Cheers
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Re: [asterisk-users] Using MAC or extension number as SIP identifier

2008-11-20 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Nov 20, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Olivier wrote:


2008/11/20 Daniel Hazelbaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any reason you want to use the MAC address?  If it is just for easy
provisioning, I just put a MAC address field in the realtime SIP table
and use a php script to take the phone's MAC address and feed it the
login information it needs.

provisioning is the first reason.
I also thought it could help to separate devices, users and other  
resources.


What I currently do to separate devices (fax machines, modems, etc.)  
is give them actual names.  I.e. I have northFax and southFax  
defined (so I would type 'sip show peer northFax').  In my mind, and  
particularly in my use, anything that a person dial's as an extension  
is going to have a person on the other end.  Other things can have  
names because end users won't be dialing them as extensions.  The fax  
machines are tied to a dedicated phone number so Asterisk dial's it  
internally.


as you obviously cannot tie MAC address to a dialing string, this  
forces you to query a database somewhere for every call ...


I'm not fully convinced of this, anyway, but when I thought about  
it, I felt frightened about loosing things I'm used to ...


Correct.  We setup a macro that uses a MySQL database to handle our  
extension dialing, we don't dial by MAC address but if you were so  
inclined, I suppose you could. As far as speed goes, we query the  
database about 4-6 times for every call.  85 users, 9 telco lines,  
Dell 2950 server, and we peak at about 0.2% cpu usage.  Again for  
simplicity, having all the front-scene stuff match what the end-user  
is talking about is very nice.  There is no reason you couldn't do  
some naming convention like 'userExtension#', 'deviceExtension#',  
'otherExtension#'.  That might help in your separation and wouldn't  
be too hard to figure out.


Daniel

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[asterisk-users] Old mantis e-mails

2008-10-30 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
I am suddenly getting a bunch of OLD (as in 3-9 months old) e-mails  
from mantis saying things like a note has been added to an issue etc.,  
and yet the issue has not been touched in months and the new note it  
is referring to is also months old.  Consequently, I never received  
these e-mails before either.  The e-mail itself shows that  
carolina.digium.com received the message back in the day but the  
next hop (my server) shows todays date.

Is it just me or has mantis been holding onto old e-mail and finally  
sending it?

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] Decent Voip Phones for enterprise

2008-10-29 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Oct 28, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Kev Szaszvari wrote:


Hi there
Can anyone reccomend any voip phones( Cisco, Polycom, SNOM ) that have

* Central Management for all the phones (We dont mind if we have to  
buy the software to manage them)
* Programable shortcut buttons, So i can program in on certian  
phones quick dials to queues.
* Optional but bonus, The ability to have a shared address book  
accross the phones.


We just rolled out Snom phones and it was the easiest thing in the  
world.


1) Yes, you can centrally manage your phones.  If you realtime SIP  
with a database then you can do a complete plugplay setup.  We use a  
few scripts to do this here.
a) Script to respond to the Snom plugplay request (SIP broadcast  
message), redirects to PHP script (b).
b) A few PHP scripts that update the firmware, provision the  
phones (via the database), define all the standard buttons, and allow  
overrides based upon extension number.


2) The Snom's let you program every single button.  If you want to re- 
program the conference button to be a hold button, *shrug* go for it.   
You can program a button to function as a BLF, speed-dial and call- 
pickup button all at the same time. (Current 7.3.7 has a bug that only  
lets you speed-dial and call-pickup when the phone is on-hook, latest  
beta fixes that).


3) Nearly perfect support for LDAP directory.  I say nearly because if  
you enable the number lookup feature (in addition to the name lookup)  
then anytime you dial it will immediately match by name and not let  
you see the number you are dialing. It basically forces you to dial-by- 
directory, kind of annoying.  I got a bug report in on that.


In regards to 1b, the PHP script gets the MAC address from the phone  
(via the URL requested), queries the database, sends back an XML file  
with all the registration information.  With SIP realtime, what this  
means is that you get a new phone, put in the registration information  
in your database along with the MAC address of the phone, then plug  
the phone into the network.  Come back 10 minutes later and it has  
updated itself to the latest firmware and is ready to make  receive  
calls.  If you want more specific information on this I would be happy  
to give you the scripts.


As others have noted, the Linksys may be able to do what you want.   
But if you do end up switching I recommend the Snom if you want the  
best bang for your buck.  Cisco  Polycom are good phones, but getting  
a big enough phone that has programmable buttons etc. gets really  
pricy. Grandstream is okay, but after comparing them with the rest of  
the phones they audio quality just isn't there.  And for us, the Snom  
is the only phone I could successfully program to do single-button  
call parking, which was a major requirement.


Daniel


Thanks in advance

Regards,
Kev


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Re: [asterisk-users] network design philosophy and practice

2008-10-29 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Oct 29, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:

 In my experience most of the serious QoS issues arise in relation to  
 the
 Internet pipe (if the provider is IP, and outside the network), not  
 the
 LAN.  Of course, LANs can be heavily contended, but are not in most
 organisations, especially as gigabit cores are getting increasingly
 common even in smaller mid-size and small organisations.

 I would pay most attention to the router(s), unless your PSTN
 connectivity is TDM and on-premise.

I would agree with this as long as you have a decent LAN.  We have  
about 60 computer workstations and 85 phones on our network.  The  
entire thing is Gigabit.  Each phone (with a few exceptions that we  
are running new cable to rectify) has a dedicated ethernet port, no  
sharing.  We are NOT however separating the data/voice networks.  They  
are on one VLAN.  We may segment later, but only if the need arises.   
Right now we have no problems.  I should point out that all of our  
switches have 2+ gigabit links back to the master switch.  We've never  
had a problem with the phones other than related to the outside world  
(telco side).

I won't argue that best practice would probably be to VLAN off the  
phones, but if you don't have a massive network and are fully gigabit  
smart switches etc with good cabling, then keeping the two networks  
merged should not be a problem.  I do wholly recommend multiple drops  
per workstation though.  In a day when I can buy CAT 6 cable for 10  
cents a foot, there is really just no reason not to be doing multiple  
drops in new installs.

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] network design philosophy and practice

2008-10-29 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Oct 29, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Darrick Hartman wrote:

 David Gibbons wrote:
 Two separate networks? Did I miss something? I feel like I'm taking
 crazy pills! Two separate physical networks means twice the hassle,
 twice the maintenance, twice the cost, twice the headache. Not to
 mention the fact that the whole idea of VOIP is to simplify IT and
 focus on converging data and voice networks.

 This is what VLANs and QOS do best. I dare say it's what they were
 designed foe. I can't think of any reason that I would ever recommend
 two ports per desk to support telephony -- ever. It's ludicrous to
 think that two ports will be better than one if we're setting up our
 VLANs and QOS properly. A phone takes very, very little bandwidth
 away from the desktop and a decent one will support tagging its
 frames for the alternate voice VLAN.

 EVER?  What about Gigabit networks with 10/100 phones?  While some
 Gigabit phones are available, gigabit POE switches are not cheap,  
 while
 non-POE gigabit switches are pretty cheap and most business class
 desktops these days come with gigabit network connections.  In a new
 wiring install I almost always insist on two jacks per location rather
 than relying on pass-thru connectors on phones.  Try giving a few  
 users
 gigabit access to an Exchange server, then taking it away.  They will
 certainly not be happy!

I always considered myself to be rather tight on budget, but maybe I  
have more money available than most.  We use the SGE2000P LinkSys  
Gigabit, Managed, PoE switches and they work great.  I get them for  
about $800, which is just under $200 more than the non-PoE version.  I  
don't find that to be an excessive price since most decent managed non- 
PoE switches are in the $500-$600 range (I'm sorry, I just can't bring  
myself to buy a D-Link or NetGear Gigabit managed switch for $300 to  
run my entire network on, maybe they are fine but they always struck  
me as a small player so to speak).

Daniel

 Darrick


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Re: [asterisk-users] fax / t38 gateway

2008-10-24 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Oct 24, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Wilton Helm wrote:

I've been following this thread and trying to sort out what is  
wanted, what is available, and why.  Comments to the following would  
be appreciated and might be useful to others.


1.  Why would anyone originate a FAX via VoIP?  If it has to go  
through a bunch of translation steps at both ends, it would seem  
better to simply scan the document (assuming it isn't in electronic  
form to begin with) and attach it to an E-Mail.


2.  Why would anyone terminate a FAX call coming through Asterisk in  
a FAX machine?  Isn't there a way to capture it electronically?  If  
so, it seems that putting the electronic documents in a queue where  
people can open them, save them, and if they wish, print them would  
be much more useful (and planet friendly, since a lot aren't worth  
putting on paper).


I can answer both of those with a single point.  We just switched  
(entirely) to Asterisk a few weeks ago.  We looked, very briefly, at  
various ways to get rid of the physical, analog, fax machines.  They  
all ended with the answer People can't figure out e-mail as it is,  
they aren't going to figure out how to fax via e-mail..


What we need is a pure VoIP fax machine.

Daniel


Wilton
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Re: [asterisk-users] One Way Audio Problem

2008-10-13 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Might be a stretch, but does the Asterisk log show that the call was  
answered?  I had this problem when interfacing * with an NEC system to  
do call parking pickup.  The NEC would never give a dialtone (nor did  
it give answer supervision) so * never knew the call got picked up so  
audio only worked one way.  I ended up rigging * to force the line to  
be considered answered with a patch.

Daniel

On Oct 13, 2008, at 8:57 AM, GNUbie wrote:

 Hello Steve,

 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 First, drop firewall/iptables/selinux and try again.

 I already turned off the firewall and I don't have SELinux on my
 system and the problem is still there.

 Regards,

 GNUbie

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Re: [asterisk-users] Transfer/Park Question.

2008-10-10 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Oct 10, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Brent Davidson wrote:

 Doug Lytle wrote:
 I don't remember where I got it (Might have been the bug tracker)  
 that
 works fine under the current 1.4.x.  I had to do a minor change to  
 get
 it to apply.

 Copy into Asterisk source directory

 patch -p0 *.patch

 rm *.patch

 make
 make install


 Doug
 Ok, the patch is working great.  Any idea what would make the one step
 parking not work?  I've tried several DTMF combinations in  
 features.conf
 and none of them seem to work when manually dialed or when bound as a
 DTMF code to a key.

 So far I've tried the following under [featuremap] in features.conf:

 parkcall = *5
 parkcall = #72
 parkcall = *9
 parkcall = #75

 I don't even see any acknowledgment of the DTMF tones showing up on  
 the
 console.

You won't.  The patch I sent you off-list is incomplete, this one is  
better. I forgot I fixed the parked has timed out option in another  
patch before I fixed this part.  Anyway, make sure when you dial you  
put k in the dial options (K too if you want both sides to park).   
It used to be tied to the t option I believe and then got moved out  
to k at some point.  Other than that, it should work.

Daniel


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Re: [asterisk-users] Transfer/Park Question.

2008-10-09 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Brent Davidson wrote:

 I've got a situation where I need to use a transfer to the parking lot
 as hold, but am not going to use BLF indicators on the phone to pick  
 up
 the parked calls so I need to hear the 3-digit extension after the
 transfer.  I'm using Snom 300 phones and have tried setting a
 programmable button to Key Event F_TRANSFER 700, which successfully  
 does
 the transfer but cuts off audio so you don't hear the extension to
 dial.   Same with setting a Park Orbit.  I can use the DTMF button  
 type
 to send the transfer command and then the extension but then the  
 person
 doing the parking hears all of the tones, which is annoying.

 Is there any way to set up the transfer silently and still get the
 parking slot extension back?

Short answer: currently no.

Medium answer: I just rolled out 60+ Snom phones (300s and 320s) and  
we do call parking with DTMF.  People were used to just hitting PARK  
and their phone displaying the park extension (old NEC system).  I  
didn't tell anybody anything except it will speak the extension back  
to you and nobody has complained about hearing the DTMF digits.  We  
chose a 3 digit code (#92 I believe) to try an alleviate the  
possibility of somebody accidently parking a call  while filling out a  
DTMF based form/menu system, but in theory you could assign just * to  
park and only deal with 1 tone.  Just be aware that if the user needs  
to hit * for anything else, they won't be able to use it.

Long answer: Snom phones support text messages to the phone that  
automatically display.  I am looking for a way to use that in  
conjunction with Snom's ParkOrbit feature (which does work, you just  
don't hear the extension).  Basically Asterisk would do a normal park  
and then trigger a SIP NOTIFY message to the parkING phone that says  
Parked: 701.  The message can be cleared by the user by pressing X,  
or ideally Asterisk would auto-clear the message after 10 seconds (or  
whatever).

In theory I can do the long answer now with a Manager application,  
but I don't like the idea of relying on an external application.  If  
it crashes or locks up for whatever reason then suddenly people get  
parked and nobody knows where.

Also be aware that in 1.2.x and 1.4.x, if you park a call and then  
pick it up, you can't park it again.  At least not with the DTMF  
method.  I borrowed a patch from the 1.6 branch that fixes this and  
made it applicable to 1.4.20.1, well I borrowed part of it.  The  
entire patch let you configure who could park etc., I wanted both  
sides to always park so I just took the 2 or 3 lines that were needed  
for that.  If you are interested I can e-mail it to you directly.

Regards,
Daniel

 Thanks,
 Brent Davidson

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Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?

2008-10-07 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Oct 7, 2008, at 4:19 AM, Chris Bagnall wrote:

 I recently purchased a few SRW208P switches.  They work fine.  If you
 run Windows.  Granted a lot of people run windows instead of Mac or
 Linux, but be aware (to those looking) that the SRW line of switches
 REQUIRE Internet Explorer on Windows.  The support site says it is
 recommended, but even the login page does not work properly on
 anything but IE on Windows.  For me, as a Mac user, it is enough to
 not buy any more of those ever again.

 That's very strange, I've used FF2 and 3 under Linux plenty of times  
 to configure the SRW224P units. I'd have thought the web interfaces  
 would be pretty similar between the models.

I have not personally tried using FF under Linux with these, though I  
ran across a number of posts that say it doesn't work.  I know FF2 and  
the latest FF3 don't work under Mac (don't work for the SRW that is)  
and I know they don't work on Windows. (Linksys' official statement is  
to use that ietab plugin that embeds IE in a firefox tab).  I would  
expect FF to behave the same as far as what works and doesn't in all 3  
environments, but maybe not.  I'll install FF3 on my Linux server and  
try as that would be more convenient than firing up Parallels  
everytime I need to change a config option in the switch.  On Win/Mac  
it lets you log in but the main menu screen is blank, nothing to  
click on, just the background template. *shrug*  Seeing as we already  
need more than the 8 ports I think I'll stick to the 24/48 port  
versions anyway.

 Regards,

 Chris

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?

2008-10-06 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Oct 6, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

 As for the larger switches I've used Linksys SRW224P. I have a few
 running for a few years without issues. They have GB uplink but the
 individual ports are 100M.

I recently purchased a few SRW208P switches.  They work fine.  If you  
run Windows.  Granted a lot of people run windows instead of Mac or  
Linux, but be aware (to those looking) that the SRW line of switches  
REQUIRE Internet Explorer on Windows.  The support site says it is  
recommended, but even the login page does not work properly on  
anything but IE on Windows.  For me, as a Mac user, it is enough to  
not buy any more of those ever again.

On the other side, We have a dozen switches in the SGE2000, SGE2000P  
and SGE2010P series that all work perfectly and with any browser I  
have tried.  Some may wonder why I would buy a 24/48-port fully  
gigabit switch.  It is because I don't want to have to think, or even  
keep track, of which port on the wall is PoE and which is Gigabit.  I  
just want to plug it in and work.  I want to be able to tell my staff  
Just plug your phone in and it will work, don't worry about trying to  
find a power adapter.  The extra money is worth not trying to keep  
track of which is which.  The SGE2000 switches we bought before the  
SGE2000P came down in price (it used to be like 4 times the non-PoE  
version).  Now, at a $220 difference ($880 verses $660) there is no  
question.

Beyond that, they work great.  VLAN setup and use is simple.  Link  
Aggregation works perfectly.  STP works like a charm (no more running  
around trying to figure out what idiot patched their wall jack into  
another wall jack).  The ability to transfer the switches  
configuration to a TFTP server (and HTTP in the 2010 version, 2000 is  
using old firmware) makes it easy to backup the configuration and  
restore it to a new switch in the event of complete failure.

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] zap destroy

2008-10-02 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Jeff Peeler wrote:


 - Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, the new changes will be in 1.4.22. I continually have to  
 remind myself that users aren't running the most up to date code.

Once 1.4.22 comes out I will report if I am still having those issues.

Daniel

 Jeff


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Re: [asterisk-users] zap destroy

2008-10-01 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Jeff Peeler wrote:


 Nope, that's the best you can do without restarting Asterisk. Is  
 requiring two restarts reproducible? I'd really like to see console  
 output with verbosity and debug set to 4 on chan_dahdi, preferably  
 while only using zap channels.

For me, yes.  Every single time I do a zap restart I have to do it  
twice.  If I execute them REALLY fast I have to do it 3 times.  I am  
using 1.4.20.1 with chan_zap still, but I will try to produce you a  
copy of the log this weekend (doing some phone maintenance anyway).  I  
have experienced this for as long as I can remember, and I know bad  
form, but just have never gotten around to filing a bug report on it.   
One of those things you never remember until you do 'zap restart' and  
it fails and then you do it again and go whew, that was close.

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] Connect Asterisk PBX to Traditional PBX and retain functionality

2008-07-24 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
If I understand you, then yes you can.  I do this now.  All our telco  
lines come through our analog NEC phone switch and then through FXO/ 
FXS ports to my Asterisk. Asterisk handles voicemail and the menu  
system so when somebody dials 6 to get my extension the asterisk  
does the following:


Flash();
Wait(0.4);
SendDTMF(268);
Hangup();

I added the Wait(0.4) as I found that under heavy load the NEC would  
not catch the first DTMF digit after the Flash.  This solution has  
worked for us for over a year now.


Some bonus information that may or may not be relevant to what you  
are doing:


We have a few SIP phones that we needed to be able to do the same kind  
of thing.  We couldn't flash transfer to the Asterisk, but in the NEC  
I setup a outgoing trunk line (dial 8 to access) that goes to the  
Asterisk box.  Then I setup a forward all calls on extension 268  
(when I have my SIP phone active) to dial out to 8268.  That way  
when somebody calls my extension it automatically forwards then to  
extension 268 on the Asterisk box.


Daniel


On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Ricardo Melendez wrote:

Hi to All, I have a PBX  (MAINPBX) from a Telecomm Provider, which  
have the feature to transfer calls (Incoming call - Answer - FLASH  
- Dial Number to transfer - Answer - FLASH+4) and the call is  
transferred, but I have the need to implement an internal ACD using  
Asterisk as the PBX, the trunks connected to my Asterisk FXO ports  
are Extensions of my MAINPBX (ex., 5437, 5440 etc), all features  
work fine, but I have the need to make asterisk act as a normal  
telephone when transferring calls, I need to release the line (FXO  
port in my Asterisk) and make the transfer via the MAINPBX feature.
Otherwise I will use 2 lines of my Asterisk PBX to make the transfer  
and it reduce the incoming lines available for my ACD.


It’s possible send the commands FLASH, FLASH+4 using the incoming  
line to my MAINPBX via Asterisk like a normal telephone?


Thanks in Advance.

Ricardo Melendez


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Re: [asterisk-users] US T1 Hangup Detection (Resolved)

2008-07-15 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Jul 11, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Daniel Hazelbaker wrote:

 I may have figured out the problem this morning, but I won't be able
 to test for a few days (again, aggravating that the only T1 line I
 have to test with is the live one).  I noticed this morning while
 telneted into the Adtran that when I hangup on our normal incoming
 lines the Receive A bit toggles.  I then noticed that two of the lines
 do NOT toggle the RA bit during hangup.  These happen to the be last
 two lines in the rotary so I would not normally get incoming calls and
 complaints on them.  They also happen to be the lines I was using to
 do my testing with. Grrr.

Just to close out this thread for anybody interested, last night I  
hooked up the T1 line again and verified that this was indeed the  
problem.  Out of the 12 lines in use on the T1, 4 of them do not  
provide the disconnect supervision.  So I have called and updated my  
trouble ticket to include all 4 of those channels.  Thanks again  
everybody for the suggestions and bits of information that helped me  
track down this problem.

Daniel


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk cant play sounds from AGI

2008-07-11 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Jul 10, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Edwin Quijada wrote:


 Hi! I am a newbie using Asterisk. I am developing an IVR using perl  
 from AGI and Cepstral as voices
 The AGI is this

[snip]
 My problem is that i cant hear anything when play the file sound  
 using  $AGI-stream_file($filename);
 I put asterisk in verbose mode but just see that it plays the sound  
 but I cant hear anything.

 I thought maybe was the codec but asterisk can play .wav
 But this works
 $AGI-say_number('9865');

If Asterisk says it is playing the file, then I would suspect the file  
itself has nothing to say.  Try copying the file to your computer and  
playing it.  If it does indeed play locally on your computer with  
audio, double check to make sure it is in the right format.  I use AGI  
to play files all the time.  Actually, I use an AGI script as my whole  
menu and dialing system to replace having to do it in AEL (so much  
nicer to add a single MySQL record and suddenly have voicemail and  
direct dial work instantly).

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] Tracking Call Time While in Dial()

2008-07-11 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Jul 11, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Douglas Garstang wrote:


I want to track call duration while the call is in progress.


To accomplish what?  Are you wanting to beep the channel every 10  
seconds?  Are you wanting to play a you have 60 seconds left message  
when they approach some quota?  Are you wanting to limit the call to 5  
minutes and 23 seconds?


Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] US T1 Hangup Detection

2008-07-11 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Jul 11, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:13:02AM -0700, Daniel Hazelbaker wrote:
 D-Marc that terminates the 25-pair analog line coming in (this does
 not just contain our lines as I can tap into other peoples lines and
 hear there conversations, love security).

 The T-1's aren't on that, though, right?
...

 Really?  You have an RJ-21X block that contains both analog AND T1
 wires?  That's really uncommon.  I hope they at least put the red
 special service caps on the T1 wires.

Yup.  I thought that pretty funny myself.  10 year old analog wires  
running a digital T1. :)  And they do have some caps on them, I think  
it was red but not 100% sure.

I may have figured out the problem this morning, but I won't be able  
to test for a few days (again, aggravating that the only T1 line I  
have to test with is the live one).  I noticed this morning while  
telneted into the Adtran that when I hangup on our normal incoming  
lines the Receive A bit toggles.  I then noticed that two of the lines  
do NOT toggle the RA bit during hangup.  These happen to the be last  
two lines in the rotary so I would not normally get incoming calls and  
complaints on them.  They also happen to be the lines I was using to  
do my testing with. Grrr.

I called Verizon and opened a ticket for why those 2 lines are  
behaving differently and that sounds like the problem, but I won't  
know for sure until I can test and try calling on one of the lines  
that does toggle the RA bit. As soon as I get that tested I will  
report that, though I expect that should fix the hangup issue.

Thanks,
Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk cant play sounds from AGI

2008-07-11 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Jul 11, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Edwin Quijada wrote:

 vm-debian#file tts-hello
 example.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM,  
 16 bit, mono 8000 Hz

Other than the filename being wrong which I would assume is the result  
of a copy and paste from the original e-mail, that looks right.

Can you paste the asterisk log section around where it is playing the  
file, including the line that shows it playing?  Something in the log  
may give a clue.

Daniel


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Re: [asterisk-users] US T1 Hangup Detection

2008-07-10 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Another update on the latest hookup attempt.  I can make it work  
reasonably well with callprogress=yes, it detects the hangup but only  
after about 7-9 seconds.  My config files are the same as the last  
time I posted (apparently last time I wasn't waiting long enough for  
callprogress to kick in).  If I turn callprogress=off then it never  
hangs up, if I turn it on, again after 7-9 seconds, it will hangup.   
My current Adtran unit hangs up almost instantly, so I think it is  
getting and detecting the disconnect supervision correctly.

I am going to try again in a few days, but I want to make some  
modifications to the zaptel driver (add in some debug code) and revert  
to Asterisk 1.4, not that I expect that to make a difference but I'll  
try anything at this point.  Before I do a question:

I am using esf,b8zs signalling on a true(/inband) T1 line.  Does the  
Zaptel driver use the rxwink timing to detect a hangup by the  
disconnect supervision?  If not, what does it use as it must be able  
to tell the difference (and I am using analog terms here) between a  
hangup and a flash for 3-way calling.

Thanks again.  If I can't figure this out I will have to call them  
out, but I don't think they will do anything other than say yep it  
works on our side, fix your own equipment.

Daniel

On Jul 8, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Daniel Hazelbaker wrote:

 Just an update for the information I got from Verizon:

 It is a true T1, not a PRI for sure.  b8zs and esf signalling.  It
 is loop start with disconnect supervision (kewlstart as I understand
 it).  I know I had already tried kewlstart before, but I suppose it is
 possible that some other configuration option was making it not work.
 Since the only T1 line I have coming in is our live phone lines I will
 have to test this again late some night this week, so if somebody has
 an idea of some things to check while I am doing that I will certainly
 give it a shot, otherwise I will report back afterwords if I had
 success.


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Re: [asterisk-users] US T1 Hangup Detection

2008-07-08 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:48:00 -0400
 From: Jason Aarons \(US\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Digital ISDN used Q931 messages.  You should get a disconnect message
 from telco on the d-channel 23.

I am pretty sure it is a T1 and not a PRI.  I did try configuring it  
as a PRI and it started spewing all kinds of errors and completely  
stopped working.


 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:55:27 -0400
 From: Doug Lytle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Daniel Hazelbaker wrote:
 We are in the process of preparing to move our Asterisk server to a
 Digital T1 interface card instead of a analog card (via an Adtran
 which is now connected to the T1).  I did a preliminary test the  
 other


 A T1 or a PRI?  Just make sure we're on the same page.
 Also, show us your zaptel and zapata.conf


Again, I am pretty sure T1.  It is a Verizon Flex-Grow package,  
which they list as expandable up to 24 voice channels.  That and I  
tried configuring as a PRI and it harfed.  The Adtran box we use now  
is configured as:

Timing Mode Network
Format  ESF
Line Code   B8ZS
Equalization0 dB
CSU LpbkEnable
Rx Sensitivity  Auto

Right now with Asterisk mostly working (it answers calls, dials out,  
etc. just doesn't detect hangup) my /etc/zaptel.conf is:
#
# Span Configuration
# ~~
span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs
span=2,0,0,esf,b8zs

#
# Channel Configuration
# ~
fxsks=1-24
fxoks=25-48

loadzone = us
defaultzone=us
--CUT--

/etc/asterisk/zapata.conf:
[channels]
usecallerid=yes
callerid=asreceived
cidsignalling=bell
cidstart=ring
callprogress=yes# I have turned this off too

;-
;
; Define telco channels in rotary, these should be answered
; like a normal incoming call.
;
context=bridgeNEC
usecallerid=yes
signalling=fxs_ks
group=1 ; Part of ZAP group 1
channel = 1-9

context=incoming
channel = 12

;-
;
; Telco line, computer dialup, needs to be routed to output line.
;
group=2
usecallerid=no
channel = 10   ; PSTN attached to Span1:Port10

;-
;
; Telco line, construction trailer fax, needs to be routed.
;
group=3
usecallerid=no
channel = 11   ; PSTN attached to Span1:Port11


;-
;
; ADTran lines, used for outgoing to analog devices
;
context=incoming
group=4
usecallerid=no
signalling=fxo_ks
channel = 25-36
--CUT--

For context, the bridgeNEC context just dials out one of the ADTran  
lines to our existing NEC system, but the incoming context starts our  
menu-system, which was also not detecting hangups.

I have also tried using loopstart and groundstart signalling, doesn't  
seem to make a difference.  I am pretty well stumped myself.  I need  
to call the telco about the caller id not working to verify that it is  
still turned on, but I figure I might as well wait so that if I need  
to ask them about the signalling I can know all the questions to ask  
at the same time.


Thanks,
Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] US T1 Hangup Detection

2008-07-08 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Jul 8, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:

 The Flex-grows I've seen were indeed T1, ESF as I recall the lights on
 the Adit 600 they terminated them into.

 Daniel: did Verizontal supply you with a shelf?  Or just the  
 smartjack?

Uhhh... :)  I have in my server room these things:

D-Marc that terminates the 25-pair analog line coming in (this does  
not just contain our lines as I can tap into other peoples lines and  
hear there conversations, love security).
Next to that is a box with 4 slots for T1 cards, we used to have a  
T1 internet connection and its card is still in there. Slot 2 has the  
flex-grow T1 card in it.

One of the pairs from the D-Marc goes into this T1 card and it  
provides a RJ-45 connection for the T1 line that runs either to the  
Adtran or to our Digium T1 card.

I hope that answers the question, as I am not entirely sure what a  
shelf or smartjack are.  Though I will feel really stupid if you say a  
shelf is something you store stuff on.

I will be calling Verizon this afternoon to try and get some  
information on our line. Hopefully I will get somebody that knows what  
they are talking about (and what I am talking about) as I am going to  
ask about everything I need to know to hook this up to our new  
digital PBX. (esf, b8zs, loop start, ground start, kewl start,  
forward disconnect, etc.)  I'm hoping that will at least give me  
enough information to make some headway and maybe one of you guys  
enough information to tell me what I am doing wrong (or heaven forbid  
what Verizon is doing wrong) :).

I'll post again after I get something from them.
Thanks again,
Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] US T1 Hangup Detection

2008-07-08 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Just an update for the information I got from Verizon:

It is a true T1, not a PRI for sure.  b8zs and esf signalling.  It  
is loop start with disconnect supervision (kewlstart as I understand  
it).  I know I had already tried kewlstart before, but I suppose it is  
possible that some other configuration option was making it not work.   
Since the only T1 line I have coming in is our live phone lines I will  
have to test this again late some night this week, so if somebody has  
an idea of some things to check while I am doing that I will certainly  
give it a shot, otherwise I will report back afterwords if I had  
success.

Daniel

On Jul 8, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Daniel Hazelbaker wrote:

 On Jul 8, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:

 The Flex-grows I've seen were indeed T1, ESF as I recall the lights  
 on
 the Adit 600 they terminated them into.

 Daniel: did Verizontal supply you with a shelf?  Or just the
 smartjack?

 Uhhh... :)  I have in my server room these things:

 D-Marc that terminates the 25-pair analog line coming in (this does
 not just contain our lines as I can tap into other peoples lines and
 hear there conversations, love security).
 Next to that is a box with 4 slots for T1 cards, we used to have a
 T1 internet connection and its card is still in there. Slot 2 has the
 flex-grow T1 card in it.

 One of the pairs from the D-Marc goes into this T1 card and it
 provides a RJ-45 connection for the T1 line that runs either to the
 Adtran or to our Digium T1 card.

 I hope that answers the question, as I am not entirely sure what a
 shelf or smartjack are.  Though I will feel really stupid if you say a
 shelf is something you store stuff on.

 I will be calling Verizon this afternoon to try and get some
 information on our line. Hopefully I will get somebody that knows what
 they are talking about (and what I am talking about) as I am going to
 ask about everything I need to know to hook this up to our new
 digital PBX. (esf, b8zs, loop start, ground start, kewl start,
 forward disconnect, etc.)  I'm hoping that will at least give me
 enough information to make some headway and maybe one of you guys
 enough information to tell me what I am doing wrong (or heaven forbid
 what Verizon is doing wrong) :).

 I'll post again after I get something from them.
 Thanks again,
 Daniel

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[asterisk-users] US T1 Hangup Detection

2008-07-07 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
We are in the process of preparing to move our Asterisk server to a  
Digital T1 interface card instead of a analog card (via an Adtran  
which is now connected to the T1).  I did a preliminary test the other  
day and hooked the T1 line up to the T1 card, bypassing the Adtran.   
This worked rather well I must say.  The two issues I ran into are:

1) Caller ID is not working even though I enabled it. I simply do not  
see _anything_ related to caller ID going on. (not major, I am not  
even sure the phone company has it setup properly so I need to talk to  
them first, Verizon)

2) Asterisk is not detecting the far end hangup.  Through the Adtran  
it does, but direct digital it does not.  I bridged an incoming call  
to an analog phone and listened as I hung up the far end (cell-call).   
I hear a audible click, silence, and then after maybe a half second  
I hear dialtone.  I tried turning on hanguponpolarity switch, tried  
turning it off, tried turning callprogress on and off, still does not  
detect the hangup.  Am I missing something obvious in Asterisk (this  
is my first digital hookup)?  I read somewhere that Asterisk is  
already suppose to detect dialtone to know that the far-end hungup.   
Do I need to call my phone company and get details on exactly how they  
are triggering the hangup, though I would think with digital it just  
happens).

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] Voicemail- Recorded Mesage Low Volume

2008-06-30 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

Hi Daniel,

I'm intrigued by this and wanted to try it out - but I'm wondering how
you get Asterisk to call sox at all during Voicemail()? Our server
doesn't even have sox installed, so I'm not sure how to go about
tricking Asterisk into running a different one.


To do anything useful you would have to get sox installed on your  
server.  But to get asterisk to run a different/fake sox, just install  
whatever you want to run as /usr/local/bin/sox and then edit your  
safe_asterisk script as I mentioned below.  Asterisk runs the program  
'sox' using the first match in your $PATH, so by updating the $PATH  
before asterisk runs you can direct it to run a different sox  
program.  Be aware that this could pose a security issue as some  
systems allow regular users to modify /usr/local/bin.  So people could  
install other programs that asterisk runs into that directory as well  
to get elevated privileges.  For me it is not a concern as the machine  
is used only for Asterisk and only accessed by our IT department.


Daniel


CP

Daniel Hazelbaker wrote:

On Apr 1, 2008, at 5:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Can the volume of the recorded voice mail message be changed?  If
so, what I am doing wrong?  Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.


I had a similar problem in our setup where we e-mail the recorded
messages to e-mail retrieval.  But this also helps standard phone
retrieval too.  What I did was edit the /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk  
script

and add:

PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH

At the top of the script. This would let me override the default sox
implementation that Asterisk uses.  Then I loaded in a script (called
sox) that would compress and normalize the recorded audio (It
compresses to deal with the spikes of the noise of the handset being
hung up, etc.). It works pretty well for us and makes the volume
pretty good so we don't have to crank up the volume on our computers
or phones to listen to voicemail messages.  And we can't adjust the
rxgain as it is already a good volume for normal calls.

Daniel

--CUT--
#!/bin/sh
#
# $1 = -v
# $2 = number
# $3 = inFile
# $4 = outFile
#
REALSOX=/usr/bin/sox

if [ $1 != -v ]; then
  $REALSOX $*
  exit $?
fi

INFILE=$3
OUTFILE=$4

#
# Perform the gain adjustment.
#
$REALSOX $INFILE $OUTFILE compand 0.1,0.3
-60,-60,-30,-15,-20,-12,-4,-8,-2,-7 0 0 0.2
--CUT--


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Re: [asterisk-users] Voicemail- Recorded Mesage Low Volume

2008-06-30 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Jun 30, 2008, at 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


But to get asterisk to run a different/fake sox, just install  
whatever
you want to run as /usr/local/bin/sox and then edit your  
safe_asterisk

script as I mentioned below.


I think this is a bad approach. It's going to be a big gotcha down  
the

road for somebody :)


Agreed. :)  It would be nice if there was something similar to  
externnotify that was not just a notification but a pipe that you  
could modify/filter etc the audio file before it continues on its  
merry way.


Asterisk runs the program 'sox' using the first match in your  
$PATH, so

by updating the $PATH before asterisk runs you can direct it to run a
different sox program.


A quick grep through the Asterisk (1.2.28) sources shows res_monitor  
using
soxmix if the channel variable MONITOR_EXEC is not defined -- but  
nothing

in app_voicemail. Am I missing something?


It is possible this is a 1.4.x feature, and specifically it is for the  
e-mail sending system which as I am thinking about it is a 1.4  
feature.  I don't use 1.2.x and never have, I started with 1.4.  The  
other option, again I don't know if this is available in 1.2, is to  
use the externnotify option.  When a voicemail is left this script/ 
program is called with the context, extension and number of new  
voicemail messages.  With a little bit of shell scripting you could  
walk the list of all messages and process any left (modified) within  
the last 20 seconds via sox.  It is a little more iffy and prone to  
race conditions, but it should work.


Unfortunately I couldn't give you a specific example of doing it this  
way as I use the e-mail style.


Daniel



Thanks in advance,

Steve Edwards  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Voice: +1-760-468-3867  
PST


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Re: [asterisk-users] Voicemail- Recorded Mesage Low Volume

2008-04-02 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Apr 1, 2008, at 5:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

  Can the volume of the recorded voice mail message be changed?  If
 so, what I am doing wrong?  Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks.

I had a similar problem in our setup where we e-mail the recorded  
messages to e-mail retrieval.  But this also helps standard phone  
retrieval too.  What I did was edit the /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk script  
and add:

PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH

At the top of the script. This would let me override the default sox  
implementation that Asterisk uses.  Then I loaded in a script (called  
sox) that would compress and normalize the recorded audio (It  
compresses to deal with the spikes of the noise of the handset being  
hung up, etc.). It works pretty well for us and makes the volume  
pretty good so we don't have to crank up the volume on our computers  
or phones to listen to voicemail messages.  And we can't adjust the  
rxgain as it is already a good volume for normal calls.

Daniel

--CUT--
#!/bin/sh
#
# $1 = -v
# $2 = number
# $3 = inFile
# $4 = outFile
#
REALSOX=/usr/bin/sox

if [ $1 != -v ]; then
   $REALSOX $*
   exit $?
fi

INFILE=$3
OUTFILE=$4

#
# Perform the gain adjustment.
#
$REALSOX $INFILE $OUTFILE compand 0.1,0.3  
-60,-60,-30,-15,-20,-12,-4,-8,-2,-7 0 0 0.2
--CUT--


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[asterisk-users] Using * in extension name

2007-12-19 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
I am trying to setup an extension of *7XXX that will allow me to dial  
*7 and then any extension and use the Pickup application to pickup a  
ringing phone.  Ideally it will also check if the phone is ringing  
somehow and then either dial the extension or pick it up if it is  
ringing.  But I can't get that far.  If I use *7268 specially it works  
fine, but as soon as I introduce any wild card char (X, N, Z, !, .) it  
responds with 404 and nothing is logged.

Can * be used in this manner in a dialplan?  If so then any  
suggestions on what I can check to see why it is doing this?  If not,  
does anybody have a better suggestion for me?  I'd rather not use a  
regular digit as the begin code.

Daniel Hazelbaker

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Re: [asterisk-users] Using * in extension name

2007-12-19 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
(Hope you don't mind me replying to the list)

Okay, time for me to feel stupid.  Yes I was forgetting to start with  
an underscore.  Somehow while I was looking at all the examples it  
never clicked that that should be there. :P

Daniel

On Dec 19, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Martin Smith wrote:

 If you could show us what you ARE using (the full line of the  
 dialplan),
 I might be able to offer more suggestions. For example, with the full
 line, I might notice if you're starting the pattern with the  
 underscore,
 which I believe is required to pattern match *at all*.

 Martin Smith, Systems Developer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bureau of Economic and Business Research
 University of Florida
 (352) 392-0171 Ext. 221



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Daniel Hazelbaker
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:21 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Using * in extension name

 I am trying to setup an extension of *7XXX that will allow me
 to dial
 *7 and then any extension and use the Pickup application to pickup a
 ringing phone.  Ideally it will also check if the phone is ringing
 somehow and then either dial the extension or pick it up if it is
 ringing.  But I can't get that far.  If I use *7268 specially
 it works
 fine, but as soon as I introduce any wild card char (X, N, Z,
 !, .) it
 responds with 404 and nothing is logged.

 Can * be used in this manner in a dialplan?  If so then any
 suggestions on what I can check to see why it is doing this?
 If not,
 does anybody have a better suggestion for me?  I'd rather not use a
 regular digit as the begin code.

 Daniel Hazelbaker

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Re: [asterisk-users] Using * in extension name

2007-12-19 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Just to finish off this thread for anybody else who wants the same  
functionality:

As Philipp coded out, what I was originally doing was something akin  
to the following:

_*7. = {
Pickup(${EXTEN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]);
Dial(Local/${EXTEN:2});
}

Somebody else wondered why I would do this as I wouldn't want to talk  
to the original callee.  Pickup() will never return if it successfully  
picks up the call.  So if it does return then we can assume (for now)  
that the phone is not ringing and then proceed to dial the number.

As I said, this did work perfectly.  However, I discovered that the  
Grandstream phones we use automatically prepend ** to the monitored  
extension.  So if the phone is not ringing it will dial 268, if the  
phone is ringing it will dial **268.  So in the end I ended up with:

_**. = { Pickup(${EXTEN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]); }

And all works perfectly.  Obviously for other phones I would have to  
come up with something else like the above, but with the grandstreams  
it seems to work great.

Daniel

On Dec 19, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Daniel Hazelbaker wrote:

 (Hope you don't mind me replying to the list)

 Okay, time for me to feel stupid.  Yes I was forgetting to start  
 with an underscore.  Somehow while I was looking at all the examples  
 it never clicked that that should be there. :P

 Daniel

 On Dec 19, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Martin Smith wrote:

 If you could show us what you ARE using (the full line of the  
 dialplan),
 I might be able to offer more suggestions. For example, with the full
 line, I might notice if you're starting the pattern with the  
 underscore,
 which I believe is required to pattern match *at all*.

 Martin Smith, Systems Developer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bureau of Economic and Business Research
 University of Florida
 (352) 392-0171 Ext. 221



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Daniel Hazelbaker
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:21 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Using * in extension name

 I am trying to setup an extension of *7XXX that will allow me
 to dial
 *7 and then any extension and use the Pickup application to pickup a
 ringing phone.  Ideally it will also check if the phone is ringing
 somehow and then either dial the extension or pick it up if it is
 ringing.  But I can't get that far.  If I use *7268 specially
 it works
 fine, but as soon as I introduce any wild card char (X, N, Z,
 !, .) it
 responds with 404 and nothing is logged.

 Can * be used in this manner in a dialplan?  If so then any
 suggestions on what I can check to see why it is doing this?
 If not,
 does anybody have a better suggestion for me?  I'd rather not use a
 regular digit as the begin code.

 Daniel Hazelbaker

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Re: [asterisk-users] Realtime SIP BLF

2007-12-01 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

On Nov 28, 2007, at 8:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 From memory - 'rtcachefriends=yes' should do the trick.

 PaulH

Sorry for the late response, wanted to make sure everything else was  
still working.  This did indeed solve the problem.  The only side  
affect I have noticed is that changed I make to the realtime database  
don't get picked up immediately.  Not sure what the cache timeout is  
but I am able to flush it manually so for the moment I don't care. :)

Thanks,
Daniel

 On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 16:56 -0800, Daniel Hazelbaker wrote:
 I am trying to get the presence/hints/BLF working along with Realtime
 SIP but I never get any busy notification. core show hints always
 shows the realtime sip user as idle.  I have tried setting call-limit
 to various values, including 1 but nothing seems to help.  I have
 tried limitonpeers both yes and no.

 Anybody got any other ideas?

 I do know the hinting is working as I can hint a Zap channel and it
 works fine.

 Daniel

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[asterisk-users] Realtime SIP BLF

2007-11-28 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
I am trying to get the presence/hints/BLF working along with Realtime  
SIP but I never get any busy notification. core show hints always  
shows the realtime sip user as idle.  I have tried setting call-limit  
to various values, including 1 but nothing seems to help.  I have  
tried limitonpeers both yes and no.

Anybody got any other ideas?

I do know the hinting is working as I can hint a Zap channel and it  
works fine.

Daniel

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[asterisk-users] Multi-site / Multi-server coordination

2007-10-18 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Okay, so we are planning for the future here where I work so we are  
trying to do testing ahead of time as we might be setting up a  
satellite campus that would need its own Asterisk phone system but  
still tied into our main campus phone system.  This much we have  
accomplished.  We have a central database that routes calls to the  
correct server before dialing the final destination SIP phone (or  
Zap, IAX, whatever).

Our last big question is this: How, if at all, does asterisk deal  
with multi-server voicemail?  i.e. User A is at site A and has a  
voicemail in his mailbox.  He knows it really belongs to user B (who  
is at site B) so after listening to the voicemail he forwards it to  
user B.  Is there a way for Asterisk to realize this box belongs on a  
different machine and communicate the voicemail over the network to  
that machine, or is this something I need to write? :)

Daniel Hazelbaker
Information Technology Director
High Desert Church

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[asterisk-users] Random Double Digits

2007-09-06 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
We have a Asterisk box acting as a voicemail system and greeting/ 
call director for our phone system (NEC system).  The problem we are  
having is that randomly (though most especially with cell phones)  
asterisk thinks it is getting a double digit.  For example, somebody  
will enter 269 and asterisk will read 2269.  I believe the core  
problem is the NEC system's volume as we've had problem with volumes  
for over a year, but short term I would like to find a solution while  
we try to solve the cause.

Is there a way to tweak the zaptel settings so that Asterisk (or  
zaptel or whatever) better handles our situation?  I realize there is  
probably not a single switch to turn on and I might have to do trial  
and error stuff, but we are willing to spend some time tweaking to  
find the best solution.  My theory (though hard to prove since it is  
a random problem) is that the doubled-digit is being detected twice  
due to a drop out in either volume or (in the case of a cell-phone)  
poor connection.

I have to this point never seen unexpected digits (somebody dials  
269 and it read 249 or something like that), but we have seen both  
double-digits and missing digits (they dial 269 and it only reads one  
of the digits).

Daniel

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Re: [asterisk-users] Ring/Off-hook in strange state 6

2007-06-22 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

Alex,

	I had this problem with a new TDM2400 card that we purchased.   
Specifically I would get that message and then it would pick up the  
ringing line AND the line next to it.  Basically, lines 1  2 had  
been cross-linked somehow.  After a few weeks of trouble-shooting  
with Digium tech support they cross-shipped me a new card and the  
problem (and that message) went away.


Daniel Hazelbaker
High Desert Church

On Jun 22, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Alex Mcdowell wrote:

HI I have two servers both of which get this message on one of the  
lines.
Ring/Off-hook in strange state 6. The one server seems to be ok  
with it, but

the other one when an extension picks up there is no one there and the
incoming call keeps ringing. I tried to adjust the levels in  
wcfxo.c like
someone had suggested, but it didn't do anything. I also upgraded  
zaptel to
the latest. 1.2.18 and asterisk is running at 1.2.14. callprogess  
is set to
no, as well as busydetect=no. This is a major problem since this  
box only
has 1 other line, but at least it works. I can't seem to find much  
info on
this issue. I can't believe others haven't run into it.  I started  
a ticket

with digium, but I guess they are pretty backed up. Here is what I am
getting in the CLI:  Thanks for any help -Alex
-- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/4-1'
-- Executing Wait(Zap/4-1, 1) in new stack
-- Executing Answer(Zap/4-1, ) in new stack
-- Executing Dial(Zap/4-1, SIP/4125|20|tr) in new stack
-- Called 4125
Jun 22 13:44:45 WARNING[24296]: chan_zap.c:3926 zt_handle_event:
Ring/Off-hook in strange state 6 on channel 4
-- SIP/4125-09559118 is ringing
Jun 22 13:44:46 WARNING[24296]: chan_zap.c:3926 zt_handle_event:
Ring/Off-hook in strange state 6 on channel 4
-- SIP/4125-09559118 answered Zap/4-1
  == Spawn extension (incoming, s, 3) exited non-zero on 'Zap/4-1'
-- Hungup 'Zap/4-1'
-- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/4-1'
-- Executing Wait(Zap/4-1, 1) in new stack
-- Executing Answer(Zap/4-1, ) in new stack
-- Executing Dial(Zap/4-1, SIP/4125|20|tr) in new stack
-- Called 4125
Jun 22 13:44:57 WARNING[24303]: chan_zap.c:3926 zt_handle_event:
Ring/Off-hook in strange state 6 on channel 4
-- SIP/4125-09559118 is ringing
Jun 22 13:44:58 WARNING[24303]: chan_zap.c:3926 zt_handle_event:
Ring/Off-hook in strange state 6 on channel 4
-- SIP/4125-09559118 answered Zap/4-1
  == Spawn extension (incoming, s, 3) exited non-zero on 'Zap/4-1'
-- Hungup 'Zap/4-1'
-- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/4-1'
-- Executing Wait(Zap/4-1, 1) in new stack
-- Executing Answer(Zap/4-1, ) in new stack
-- Executing Dial(Zap/4-1, SIP/4125|20|tr) in new stack
-- Called 4125
-- SIP/4125-09559118 is ringing


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] nic aliases not working

2006-04-11 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Have you quit and relaunched Asterisk? (not a reload, but a full quit  
process and restart)  I know in the past when I have a process  
already listening to 0.0.0.0 it will not always pick up a newly added  
NIC alias address without re-binding.


Daniel

On Apr 11, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Michael George wrote:


I have an * box that I need to chang the IP address on.

My hope was that I could add an alias to the interface with a  
different

IP address, have * bind to all addresses, change DNS and when no more
hits come on the old address.

However, IAX registrations coming in to the alias don't seem to get
acknowledged by *.  Even with iax2 debug on, I don't see any attempts.

We can ssh in on both IP addresses and I have bindaddr=0.0.0.0 in
iax.conf.

Is this not possible for some reason?  Maybe multiple IP addresses  
work

but nic aliases do not?

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[Asterisk-Users] Networld Interop, Vegas 2006

2006-04-06 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Does anybody know how big a presence Asterisk and/or Digium will make  
at Networld Interop this year?  I have a part-time guy that is  
building an Asterisk system for us (in a proof of concept fashion  
before we do a full switch to it) that I would like to take, but I  
don't want to waste his time if it is going to just be a yeah, try  
our product booth and not something he can spend time talking to  
them about what it can/can't do, see it in use, etc.


Daniel
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Receptionist Phones

2006-03-31 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
I've been quiet on this discussion for a few days and reading  
everybody's thoughts.  But since I brought this subject up in the  
first place I thought I would bring it to a close with the results  
summarized.


1. The polycom phones do support attendant stations, but there is  
some incompatibility between their phone and asterisk that currently  
limits the number of monitored stations to 7.  They are aware of this  
limitation and are currently working on fixing it.


2. The Snom phones work and do not seem to suffer from this limit.

3. Snom phones give you up to 54 monitored lines currently, but there  
is indication on their website (use of the word currently) that  
they are trying to find a way to bring this number up (possibly  
linking more than one add-on module together).


4. Old style switchboards (such as DSS attendant stations) are a  
thing of the past and will likely die off in the future, but the  
world is not there yet, people still want them.


5. Computer based, on-screen monitoring systems are the future for  
large organizations as they are easy to change and easy to customize  
to fit exactly what you want.  But there are some things to resolve  
before the average user can use them without a dedicated computer  
screen to reduce frustration.  I have no doubt that as more companies  
move to VoIP systems these old DSS units will become a thing of the  
past, we just are not quite there yet.


6. Most people (not all, but most) who are given the option of a new  
way to monitor line status vs. the old way will probably eventually  
use the new way (some kind of FOP display).  But those same people  
will refuse to like the new way if the are forced to use it or  
nothing, just the way people are.  I don't doubt that we could slowly  
train our receptionists to use the new system while they have access  
to the old and simply wait until they say, you know what, we don't  
use that old box anymore, it just takes time. :)


So my original question was answered long ago, but I have enjoyed the  
thoughts and opinions of everybody that has contributed to this  
discussion.


Regards,
Daniel Hazelbaker
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Receptionist Phones

2006-03-28 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
What I read on snom's website was the _currently_ only one sidecar  
can be hooked up at a time.  It sounds like they are working on  
getting multiple sidecars chained together but have not got all of  
the bugs worked out.  I am kind of in the same boat.  Our current  
system offers 60 buttons on the sidecar.  It is full but they already  
don't have everybody.  Talking to the receptionists (we have a split  
office setup, one on each side of the building) they figure it would  
not be hard for them to remove the extensions that are not used  
very much to get the number down to the 54 currently allowed on the  
snom phone.  Particularly since it is a short term solution.  I  
expect either snom to get multiple sidecars working fairly soon or  
polycom to get the issue with its 7-button limit figured out (or  
Asterisk, as the case may be), and then be able to upgrade their  
phones to an unlimited button phone.


And the price of the snom setup is not bad at all.  $235 for the  
phone and $140 for the expansion module = $375.   Not a hard sell to  
say that they may have to toss a $140 expansion module if they end  
up going with a different solution later.  The phone would still be  
perfectly good.


Daniel

On Mar 28, 2006, at 8:12 AM, Bob McDowell wrote:



Very true.  I am currently debating whether or not to offer it as an
option for my employer's system.  As it currently stands, we do not  
have
everyone's extensions on a button.  With the snom 360 plus the  
expansion

we still don't have them all.  While I'm sure it would be 'better than
nothing' from my own point of view, it might also be setting up the
receptionist for a disappoint.  As this system is new, I'm working  
hard

to portray it as the 'limitless future', as opposed to the proprietary
and very limited system we were on before.  The receptionist not  
having

a sidecar is present my fault, due to lack of finding a good one.


Bob McDowell


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Receptionist Phones

2006-03-28 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
For those of us that only need a small handful of these receptionist  
phones (for me it is 2), it should not be nearly as much of a  
problem, correct?  For example I only need 2 phones with 60 (well, I  
can get 54 atm, but would like to expand even more).  Assuming  
everybody picked up their phone at the same time that would only be  
180 (60 * 2, plus I am assuming some message to the phone that was  
picked up) messages.  I can't imagine putting a sidecar on every  
single phone.  If average joe really wants to know if somebody is on  
the phone they can log into a web page that will tell them the status  
of a phone.


Daniel - Good to hear that people from the manufacturing companies  
traffic these lists!


On Mar 28, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Christian Stredicke wrote:


Well the problem with the sidecar is simple. Just try to light all
lights three times within one second. If you have 50 keys there is
already hell breaking loose. If you cascade side cars and say have 100
LED, this is a real Xmas tree. The CPU drowns in XML notifications. We
already had trouble, and we don't want to double it at this time. Good
work, IETF.

BTW this is not only a problem if the phone. If the PBX has to  
supply 50
phones with 50 LED and e.g. they are going off hook at the same  
time, we

are talking about a burst of 50 * 50 = 2500 messages which will have
some impact of the PBX CPU as well.

We need to do something about this first before we can start having  
100

or 150 LED on a device.

Christian - yes I am from snom.


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[Asterisk-Users] Receptionist Phones (was 3Com Phones)

2006-03-27 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
	Thanks for all the comments on the 3Com phones.  Thankfully, there  
is a large number of phones out there to dig through looking for the  
right solution.


	What I have not been able to find, after spending all weekend  
looking, is a good solution for an attendant console.  We have 2  
receptionists that need to be able to view all 60+ phones (we could  
probably weed it down a bit if we had to, but would like to be able  
to cover all the phones) and see who is on the phone already.  I  
would like to avoid a software solution as those tend to be confusing  
and hard for non-computer savvy people to deal with.  I have seen  
that the polycom setup (601+sidecar) works but only for up to 7 phones.


	Does anybody have a recommendation for a solution for this?  I find  
it hard to believe that nobody makes a compatible phone (or add-on)  
that is compatible with Asterisk.  It seems like such a common thing.


Daniel Hazelbaker

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Receptionist Phones (was 3Com Phones)

2006-03-27 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
We may end up using a software solution, but there are two main  
issues with a software solution (for us at least):


1) For us in particular, our receptionists have ALWAYS (for the past  
15 years at least) used a physical switchboard style for routing  
and seeing availability.  From past hardware-software changes we  
know that it will be very frustrating for them.  For us, it is much  
more worth it to spend $1,000 to buy each of the two receptionists a  
really nice phone that supports these features rather than get a  
cheap software (though very nice) solution.


2) Having a software solution can cause grief and frustration to an  
already overworked receptionist.  Just a few examples (these are not  
as uncommon as one might think): User quits web browser after  
finishing looking something up on-line, doesn't realize they just  
closed out their switchboard until they need it and it is not there.   
User gets lost trying to find the right window while trying to not  
sound like an idiot to the person on the phone.  Computer has frozen,  
or otherwise has problems, and must be rebooted.


I do like the look of Asternic, it is very old-style and easy to  
get used to, but we would still prefer a hardware solution if  
possible.  We may end up having to say, sorry but you need to deal  
with this for a while until some bugs in the system are resolved  
(i.e. the 7 line problem), but as soon as a hardware solution is  
available we will switch you back to it.  Hopefully we can find  
something before we switch, but if not it is good to know that  
software solutions are a viable alternative.




Have you looked that the flash operator panel?

http://www.asternic.org/demo.html

I know you mentioned not wanting a software solution because of  
confusion

but I think that would be pretty easy to understand.

Curt

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Receptionist Phones

2006-03-27 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Yes, I keep reading on the mailing list archives and the wikis that  
(wether or not it is indeed a Asterisk issue) Polycom keeps saying  
that an issue with Asterisk prevents you from monitoring more than 7  
total (not per sidecar) extensions.


Daniel

On Mar 27, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Justin Moore wrote:


On 3/27/06, Daniel Hazelbaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have seen that the polycom setup (601+sidecar) works but only  
for up to 7 phones


From what I've seen, each sidecar supports up to 14 additional
stations. Three of those along with the 5 buttons on the 601 comes up
to 47 on my calculator. Is there a known problem with the 601+sidecars
and * that prevents the user from being able to monitor more than 7
extensions?

Just curious as I've been leaning toward this for our receptionist as
well (only 12 extensions to monitor...)

--
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Receptionist Phones

2006-03-27 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Hmm, which phone from Snom are you using for this?  I've looked  
around their website and I can only find 3 VoIP phones, the 300, 320  
and 360.  The 360 by the looks of it only has 12 buttons you can  
assign to different extensions; am I missing something or is that the  
phone and you just do 12 per phone?


Daniel

On Mar 27, 2006, at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Yes - set up about 10 of them at a business last year.

Monitoring is fine - picking up calls is a bit iffy at the best of  
times.
(that is, picking up a ringing call by pushing the extension  
button. *8

works fine)

Paul Hales
Technical Manager
AsteriskIT


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 3Com Phones

2006-03-26 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
Drat, because the 3Com phones looked pretty good for the price. :)   
Is there somewhere that has a compatibility list for Asterisk with  
all the phones that are known to work/not work with Asterisk; since  
apparently VoIP phone companies incorrectly state that they support  
the SIP protocol (I don't consider, we support SIP as long as it  
only talks to our server because we tweaked it just a bit to be  
supported).


I am looking for a good 60 phones.  We are upgrading our entire phone  
system (and *old* NEC PBX).  We don't need anything fancy on most of  
the phones, just the usual mid-size business features.  
Speakerphone, Hold, Park, Transfer, Voicemail; and we need at least 2  
attendant stations that can see all in-use phone lines.  We are  
trying to keep the costs (relatively) down, hence using Asterisk  
instead of a full commercial solution.  It is very disconcerting to  
know the providers are essentially lying about what their phones  
support. (3Com states their phones are SIP compatible, not 3Com's  
version of SIP compatibile).


Thanks for the info, hopefully somebody will have some  
recommendations for a good phone brand that actually IS Asterisk  
compatible.


Daniel

On Mar 26, 2006, at 12:01 AM, Jared Valentine wrote:


I would not recommend the 3Com phones for use with Asterisk.

3Com 3100 series phones do not support SIP with non-3Com systems.   
They have
a basic boot loader which must download code from a 3Com NBX or a  
3Com VCX
system.  If you don't have either of these, then you won't get  
runtime code
on the phone, thereby making it impossible to use the thing with  
Asterisk.


I've heard rumors that the 3103 phones have enough storage space on  
the
phone to store a SIP image, but I don't have any more information  
than that.



As far as 3Com licensing is concerned, it's not per year, it's per- 
seat
(one-time charge), just like any other commercial VoIP PBX vendor  
(Cisco,

Avaya, Shoretel, etc.)

Jared Valentine
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[Asterisk-Users] 3Com Phones

2006-03-24 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker

Greetings,

	We are looking at installing a VoIP system with Asterisk and are  
currently looking at the line of 3Com phones.  Has anybody had  
success with using the following phones?  We need to buy a lot and we  
don't want to end up with phones that don't work properly with asterisk.


3Com 3101 (model with speakerphone)
3Com 3102 Business Phone
3Com 3103 Manager Phone
3Com 3105 Attendant Console (if these don't work, can somebody  
recommend another receptionist alternative?)


Daniel Hazelbaker
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