Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 13 FAX
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:51 AM, A J Stiles asterisk_l...@earthshod.co.uk wrote: On Wednesday 24 Jun 2015, Ivan Demkovitch wrote: Hello team! I’m planning to add fax functionality to my PBX. From research it seems that there is 2 options: spandsp and Digium. I lean towards Digium app, licensing is fine. However, they don’t have download for v13 Should I just download their version for v12 Asterisk? Listen to RMS, and do not touch *anything* that doesn't come with full Source Code and modification rights. The important thing to remember about any piece of proprietary technology is that you already managed just fine before it was invented. Do not make a decision you *will* regret some years down the line. The decision just got easier: http://blogs.digium.com/2015/06/26/fax-asterisk-res_fax_digium-no-longer-supported-asterisk-13-later/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+InsideTheAsterisk+%28Inside+the+Asterisk%29 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 13 FAX
On Wednesday 24 Jun 2015, Ivan Demkovitch wrote: Hello team! I’m planning to add fax functionality to my PBX. From research it seems that there is 2 options: spandsp and Digium. I lean towards Digium app, licensing is fine. However, they don’t have download for v13 Should I just download their version for v12 Asterisk? Listen to RMS, and do not touch *anything* that doesn't come with full Source Code and modification rights. The important thing to remember about any piece of proprietary technology is that you already managed just fine before it was invented. Do not make a decision you *will* regret some years down the line. -- AJS Note: Originating address only accepts e-mail from list! If replying off- list, change address to asterisk1list at earthshod dot co dot uk . -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Export Fax from Wave file
On Thursday 21 Apr 2011, Khaled W. Chehab wrote: Dears, I configured an account on my asterisk pbx to record the outgoing calls. When the asterisk pbx user make a call and send a fax the call recorded to wave file format. I searched the internet and found a software that can play the recorded wave file and export from it the tiff fax document sent. Is there a way that asterisk can play the wav file and export the tiff document ??? You *might* be able to recover the document, *if and only if* the recording quality is high enough. Easiest way to try it is to call up a fax machine (either an actual real one, or a copy of Hylafax) from Asterisk and play the wav file down the line to it. Hylafax might even be able to do this directly; so if you don't have a real fax machine, start looking there. -- AJS Answers come *after* questions. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Export Fax from Wave file
On 21 Apr 2011, at 13:46, A J Stiles wrote: You *might* be able to recover the document, *if and only if* the recording quality is high enough. Easiest way to try it is to call up a fax machine (either an actual real one, or a copy of Hylafax) from Asterisk and play the wav file down the line to it. But fax requires two-way negotiation right?.. S -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Export Fax from Wave file
On 04/21/2011 08:12 PM, Khaled W. Chehab wrote: Dears, I configured an account on my asterisk pbx to record the outgoing calls. When the asterisk pbx user make a call and send a fax the call recorded to wave file format. I searched the internet and found a software that can play the recorded wave file and export from it the tiff fax document sent. Is there a way that asterisk can play the wav file and export the tiff document ??? If you have found software to do this, what are you looking for now? Steve -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk 1.8 fax woes
On 11/13/2010 4:36 AM, Jeremy Kister wrote: When a caller connects, asterisk switches to the fax context and hangs up the call. I was wrong, asterisk does not even switch to the fax extension- i added a noop, and it's not making it: exten = fax,1,NoOp( in fax extension ) exten = fax,n,Goto(fax,rx,1) the call ends before the noop. -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk 1.8 fax woes
This does sound like something that should stay on Asterisk-users. On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Jeremy Kister asterisk...@jeremykister.com wrote: I upgraded from a perfectly working 1.6.2 asterisk installation (including fax via app_fax_digium) to 1.8.0 this evening. So you made sure to remove the res_fax.so module that was there from 1.6.2? Tried cleaning out the modules directory then installing just the 1.8 modules to be safe? All my custom modules (including swift thanks darren!) are working fine except for fax. When a caller connects, asterisk switches to the fax context and hangs up the call. i've captured with: core set verbose 10 core set debug 10 fax set debug on sip set debug peer vgw1 (vgw1 is my cisco 1760 ata) http://jeremy.kister.net/tmp/fax/console.txt http://jeremy.kister.net/tmp/fax/messages.txt http://jeremy.kister.net/tmp/fax/sip.txt I've tried using the packaged app_fax_spandsp and also Digium's app_fax_digum for 1.8.0-rc1 -- no difference in behavior. Anyone have any ideas how I can get this fixed? Have you tried doing tests where you send all calls straight into ReceiveFax and disable faxdetect? That may help track down where the problem is at least. You can put a noop before the call to receivefax if you'd like, but keep it simple and don't do anything else for this part of the test. If you've got a paid for Fax license (as opposed to Free Fax) then you can also contact Digium Support. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk t38modem Fax gateway evaluation
Hi! Is it possible to decouple the internal Fax communication from ISDN using t38modem or as an alternative Fax For Asterisk, perhaps in conjunction with HylaFAX? Look at HylaFax first, and I guess that you will be happier with leaving T.38 out of the picture. Do note that hardware can also be sold, not only bought. :-) A ISDN BRI- analog adapter (example. DeTeWe TA33) is a typical partial solution for a stable solution - for those who focus on ISDN, and those who can sync internal BRI to external BRI/PRI. I was unable to find any current information about theese subjects on the www. Start here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+fax Philipp P.S.: It does help to understand your situation if you state in which country you are. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk t38modem Fax gateway evaluation
On 02/18/2010 03:40 PM, dle...@lstelcom.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to fix a Asterisk setup with buggy (POTS) Fax machines. The setup consists of the following components: - A Digium TE121 for connectiong to E1 ISDN - Debian box with Asterisk 1.4 - Grandstream GXW-4008 SIP ATA to which the Fax machines connect I am aware of the problems with this type of ISDN- Asterisk- SIP ATA- Fax machine installations, e.G. different clock source of ISDN and the ATA, ethernet timing issues, etc. So it's no suprise that i encounter the usual problems: No reliable transmission of faxes, errors and aborts with multiple page faxes, ... Unfortunately the installtion is allready completed and purchasing new hardware is not an option. Thus i have come up with the following idea und need some small pointer if this is even possible: remote=whatever= PSTN=ISDN= Digium-- Asterisk-- t38modem =Ethernet= Grandstream=POTS= local FAXE1 TE1211.4 SIP GXW-4008FAX machine t38 Is it possible to decouple the internal Fax communication from ISDN using t38modem or as an alternative Fax For Asterisk, perhaps in conjunction with HylaFAX? If you are trying to get from the PSTN to a FAX machine on an ATA neither Fax for Asterisk or HylaFAX will be of much help. You need a T.38 gateway function running in the Asterisk box to talk to the ATA. There are patches around for adding that function to Asterisk, but its not in the standard distribution. I was unable to find any current information about theese subjects on the www. Most postings/articles are 4-6 years old and state that it's impossible, but this was way before t38modem and Fax for Asterisk. I would be really grateful if anybody could come up with some current information, howtows, etc. 4-6 was before Fax for Asterisk, but several options for faxing to and from a file, including t38modem, have existed for a long time. Digium has just been extremely slow integrating a T.38 gateway function into the Asterisk distribution. Steve -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk dahdi fax problem
Dialing DAHDI/21 will open DAHDI/21 as a line expecting further DTMF to dial
You need DAHDI/21/1234567
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Gelencser
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:11 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] asterisk dahdi fax problem
Hi,
I run into a problem and I'm not shure what do I misconfigure. I've a
B410P ISDN card with bri_cpe signalling and two Openvox (A1200, A800)
cards with fxo_ks signalling, all with dahdi drivers. I can receive fax
from a public number, but I can't send fax. The CLI says it picks up the
line but no dialing. I tried the extension with an analog phone, it
works fine, I can dial out (the required fax answers), I can dial
extensions.
The settings in the extensions.conf are:
FAX=DAHDI/21
exten = 51,1,Dial(${FAX})
exten = 51,n,Playback(vm-nobodyavail)
exten = 51,n,Hangup()
What do I miss? Thanks for you help in advance.
Best regards,
Peter Gelencser
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.6.1.11 Fax
Steve Underwood wrote: Something is wrong if Asterisk is sending: a=T38FaxFillBitRemoval a=T38FaxTranscodingMMR a=T38FaxTranscodingJBIG Spandsp supports T38FaxFillBitRemoval, but neither spandsp or Commetrex support the other two options. The Commetrex guys have said so in the FoIP working group. Agreed... if he's actually running a FAX application on Asterisk. If this is a bridged call, the other endpoint may have offered to support those features. Without a description of the actual call scenario, we can only guess :-) -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpflem...@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.6.1.11 Fax
Cyprus VoIP wrote: We're trying to receive faxes on the Asterisk server, but for the time being T.38 negotiation fails. The SDP that the Asterisk reINVITE sends contains these lines: -- m=image 4968 udptl t38 a=T38FaxVersion:0 a=T38MaxBitRate:9600 a=T38FaxFillBitRemoval a=T38FaxTranscodingMMR a=T38FaxTranscodingJBIG a=T38FaxRateManagement:transferredTCF a=T38FaxMaxDatagram:1400 a=T38FaxUdpEC:t38UDPRedundancy -- The MaxDatagram and MaxBitRate are definitely not what they should be, and maybe other parameters are also wrong. I would like to have 400 and 14400 respectively. There is no point in having a smaller T38FaxMaxDatagram value; Asterisk's FAX applications can handle larger packets than 400 bytes, so Asterisk is telling the sending endpoint that it can send them if it wishes to do so. As far as the T38MaxBitRate, that is only a suggestion in the negotiation, and rarely has any effect on the negotiation process or on the resulting FAX transmission. As before, you've provided only a very small amount of information, not enough to be able to help you determine what is wrong. Nothing in that SDP offer indicate any problems of any kind. In addition, you haven't indicated which FAX applications in Asterisk you are using (app_fax or res_fax), which could also have an impact on the T.38 negotiation process. If you'd like people to be able to help you debug problems, you need to provide enough information for them to do so; most of us are not clairvoyant, telepathic or omniscient. In any situation where T.38 negotiation is failing, that means a 'sip set debug on' log trace that shows the entire T.38 negotiation transaction, ideally with 'core set debug 10' and 'core set verbose 10' as well so we can see all the actions that Asterisk and the FAX application took during the negotiation process. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpflem...@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.6.1.11 Fax
We're trying to receive faxes on the Asterisk server, but for the time being T.38 negotiation fails. The SDP that the Asterisk reINVITE sends contains these lines: -- m=image 4968 udptl t38 a=T38FaxVersion:0 a=T38MaxBitRate:9600 a=T38FaxFillBitRemoval a=T38FaxTranscodingMMR a=T38FaxTranscodingJBIG a=T38FaxRateManagement:transferredTCF a=T38FaxMaxDatagram:1400 a=T38FaxUdpEC:t38UDPRedundancy -- The MaxDatagram and MaxBitRate are definitely not what they should be, and maybe other parameters are also wrong. I would like to have 400 and 14400 respectively. There is no point in having a smaller T38FaxMaxDatagram value; Asterisk's FAX applications can handle larger packets than 400 bytes, so Asterisk is telling the sending endpoint that it can send them if it wishes to do so. As far as the T38MaxBitRate, that is only a suggestion in the negotiation, and rarely has any effect on the negotiation process or on the resulting FAX transmission. As before, you've provided only a very small amount of information, not enough to be able to help you determine what is wrong. Nothing in that SDP offer indicate any problems of any kind. In addition, you haven't indicated which FAX applications in Asterisk you are using (app_fax or res_fax), which could also have an impact on the T.38 negotiation process. If you'd like people to be able to help you debug problems, you need to provide enough information for them to do so; most of us are not clairvoyant, telepathic or omniscient. In any situation where T.38 negotiation is failing, that means a 'sip set debug on' log trace that shows the entire T.38 negotiation transaction, ideally with 'core set debug 10' and 'core set verbose 10' as well so we can see all the actions that Asterisk and the FAX application took during the negotiation process. Hi Kevin, thank you for your response. Before posting my question, I analyzed the entire SIP negotiation and it was fine. The problem began in the T.38 negotiation itself, after the Asterisk's reINVITE. I don't have the old calls traces anymore, but I'll make new ones tomorrow and post them here. Regarding the MaxBitRate, is it possible to increase it to 14400 or is 9600 the max allowed? Regards, Andreas ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.6.1.11 Fax
Cyprus VoIP wrote: Before posting my question, I analyzed the entire SIP negotiation and it was fine. The problem began in the T.38 negotiation itself, after the Asterisk's reINVITE. I don't have the old calls traces anymore, but I'll make new ones tomorrow and post them here. The T.38 negotiation is part of the SIP negotiation, so that comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Regarding the MaxBitRate, is it possible to increase it to 14400 or is 9600 the max allowed? It is controlled by the endpoint that is performing the T.38 negotiation in Asterisk, either an application or a channel driver (if the call is bridged to another channel). It can be set to any value allowed by the T.38 Recommendation, but it will only be set to values that the application actually supports. Increasing it is no way going to make your T.38 negotiation succeed if they are failing, nor will it make FAXes work if they are failing. It's purely an informational element. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpflem...@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.6.1.11 Fax
On 12/11/2009 03:33 AM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Cyprus VoIP wrote: Before posting my question, I analyzed the entire SIP negotiation and it was fine. The problem began in the T.38 negotiation itself, after the Asterisk's reINVITE. I don't have the old calls traces anymore, but I'll make new ones tomorrow and post them here. The T.38 negotiation is part of the SIP negotiation, so that comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Regarding the MaxBitRate, is it possible to increase it to 14400 or is 9600 the max allowed? It is controlled by the endpoint that is performing the T.38 negotiation in Asterisk, either an application or a channel driver (if the call is bridged to another channel). It can be set to any value allowed by the T.38 Recommendation, but it will only be set to values that the application actually supports. Increasing it is no way going to make your T.38 negotiation succeed if they are failing, nor will it make FAXes work if they are failing. It's purely an informational element. Something is wrong if Asterisk is sending: a=T38FaxFillBitRemoval a=T38FaxTranscodingMMR a=T38FaxTranscodingJBIG Spandsp supports T38FaxFillBitRemoval, but neither spandsp or Commetrex support the other two options. The Commetrex guys have said so in the FoIP working group. Regards, Steve ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] [asterisk-dev] Fax t38 capability
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Khaled W. Chehab kche...@xplorium.com wrote: Dears I installed digium fax and followed the instruction at http://downloads.digium.com/pub/telephony/fax/README,And as you can see above that t38 is loaded Step 1: This is an asterisk-users question. Step 2: This is not an asterisk-dev question. Step 3: Do not post to both mailing lists at once. Those directions definitely don't tell you how to configure your Cisco gear. Step 4: Your Cisco gateway sure seems to be refusing your fax, right? Step 5: What happens when you try sending the fax from the Cisco to your asterisk? Step 6: What happens when you try sending a fax through Cisco as an audio fax? Step 7: How have you configured your Cisco dialpeer? Step 8: We've talked about this multiple times in the last few months on the asterisk-users list. Please review the archives and tell us whether you've tried the dial-peers and dialplans posted there. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and fax
Hi VoIPCrazy, why don't you use an ATA device such as Grandstream 486 or similar? Giorgio Incantalupo voip crazy wrote: Dear list, I need to setup asterisk to send and receibe fax. I just looking about SpanDSP, Hylafax/Iaxmodem, AsterFax,...etc. The asterisk box has Digium hardware, one TE420B and one TDM2402 (8 FXO ports). I just read the SpanDSP (txfax and rxfax) makes the system more unstable that Hylafax/Iaxmodem. And the Asterfax solution does dislike cause its licensing. The TE420B, is configured in E1 mode. Which is the best solution to use with this hardware? Which solution do you use to send an receibe fax? Thanks VoIPCrazy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ Giorgio Incantalupo, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FGA srl - http://www.fgasoftware.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Agile PBX http://www.voiceatwork.eu Tel: 02997663.14, Fax: 0291390172 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and fax
I want to receibe the fax via mail and send faxes via web interface and a digital send and receibe fax list. Voipcrazy 2008/2/13, Giorgio Incantalupo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi VoIPCrazy, why don't you use an ATA device such as Grandstream 486 or similar? Giorgio Incantalupo voip crazy wrote: Dear list, I need to setup asterisk to send and receibe fax. I just looking about SpanDSP, Hylafax/Iaxmodem, AsterFax,...etc. The asterisk box has Digium hardware, one TE420B and one TDM2402 (8 FXO ports). I just read the SpanDSP (txfax and rxfax) makes the system more unstable that Hylafax/Iaxmodem. And the Asterfax solution does dislike cause its licensing. The TE420B, is configured in E1 mode. Which is the best solution to use with this hardware? Which solution do you use to send an receibe fax? Thanks VoIPCrazy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ Giorgio Incantalupo, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FGA srl - http://www.fgasoftware.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Agile PBX http://www.voiceatwork.eu Tel: 02997663.14, Fax: 0291390172 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and fax
I'm at this moment implementing the same as you do... Take a look at the following links: http://blog.evaristesys.com/?p=24 http://blogtech.oc9.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articlecatid=4:asteriskid=77:20071121astItemid=6 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+fax Regards, Ricardo Carvalho. On Feb 13, 2008 5:49 PM, voip crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to receibe the fax via mail and send faxes via web interface and a digital send and receibe fax list. Voipcrazy 2008/2/13, Giorgio Incantalupo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi VoIPCrazy, why don't you use an ATA device such as Grandstream 486 or similar? Giorgio Incantalupo voip crazy wrote: Dear list, I need to setup asterisk to send and receibe fax. I just looking about SpanDSP, Hylafax/Iaxmodem, AsterFax,...etc. The asterisk box has Digium hardware, one TE420B and one TDM2402 (8 FXO ports). I just read the SpanDSP (txfax and rxfax) makes the system more unstable that Hylafax/Iaxmodem. And the Asterfax solution does dislike cause its licensing. The TE420B, is configured in E1 mode. Which is the best solution to use with this hardware? Which solution do you use to send an receibe fax? Thanks VoIPCrazy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ Giorgio Incantalupo, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FGA srl - http://www.fgasoftware.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Agile PBX http://www.voiceatwork.eu Tel: 02997663.14, Fax: 0291390172 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and fax
I would recommend you use Iaxmodem / Hylafax / Avantfax for your needs. We use this with several customers and it works very well. This way you do not have to patch Asterisk with spanDSP. You can set up as many virtual fax machines as your machine will handle. On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 18:49 +0100, voip crazy wrote: I want to receibe the fax via mail and send faxes via web interface and a digital send and receibe fax list. Voipcrazy 2008/2/13, Giorgio Incantalupo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi VoIPCrazy, why don't you use an ATA device such as Grandstream 486 or similar? Giorgio Incantalupo voip crazy wrote: Dear list, I need to setup asterisk to send and receibe fax. I just looking about SpanDSP, Hylafax/Iaxmodem, AsterFax,...etc. The asterisk box has Digium hardware, one TE420B and one TDM2402 (8 FXO ports). I just read the SpanDSP (txfax and rxfax) makes the system more unstable that Hylafax/Iaxmodem. And the Asterfax solution does dislike cause its licensing. The TE420B, is configured in E1 mode. Which is the best solution to use with this hardware? Which solution do you use to send an receibe fax? Thanks VoIPCrazy ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ Giorgio Incantalupo, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FGA srl - http://www.fgasoftware.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Agile PBX http://www.voiceatwork.eu Tel: 02997663.14, Fax: 0291390172 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Telecomunicaciones Abiertas de México S.A. de C.V. Carlos Chávez Prats Director de Tecnología +52-55-91169161 ext 2001 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and fax
I need to setup asterisk to send and receibe fax. I just looking about SpanDSP, Hylafax/Iaxmodem, AsterFax,...etc. The asterisk box has Digium hardware, one TE420B and one TDM2402 (8 FXO ports). We use (at multiple sites, mostly BRI) iaxmodem and hylafax. Extra bonus: you get all the cool features and possibilities of hylafax! ;-) cheers, stoffell ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Hello, 2008/1/1, Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Rob, Rob Hillis wrote: Well that answers that question. I see that t38modem provides an H232 modem - is this unsuitable for HylaFAX's purpose? (ignoring the fact that it requires a kernel recompile on most newer distros.) Steve Underwood wrote: Rob Hillis wrote: Last time I heard IAXModem didn't support T.38 because the IAX2 protocol didn't support T.38 - whether that's still the case or not, I don't know. There are actually two reasons. One is that T.38 over IAX is not defined. The other is the current T.38 termination support in spandsp is only for the full FAX machine it contains. T.38 termination to the class 1 FAX modem (T.31) interface for HylaFAX is a work in progress. When that is done, I hope we will have a sipmodem to replace iaxmodem, offering bother audio and T.38 to HylaFAX functionality. Steve The most recent versions of t38modem can apparently provide both a SIP and H.323 T.38 to class 1 FAX modem interface for HylaFAX. What it cannot provide is an audio FAX interface. What is an audio FAX interface ? I'm not sure to understand what it is. Cheers The sipmodem code I am working on will integrate audio and T.38 FAX processing in a single SIP entity. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
On Jan 1, 2008, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most recent versions of t38modem can apparently provide both a SIP and H.323 T.38 to class 1 FAX modem interface for HylaFAX. What it cannot provide is an audio FAX interface. The sipmodem code I am working on will integrate audio and T.38 FAX processing in a single SIP entity. Apparently, indeed. I've been unable to get it to send faxes via a Cisco gateway. (Receive is OK.) The other side always reports errors, so it may or may not work for you. Norman Franke ASD, Inc. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Well that answers that question. I see that t38modem provides an H232 modem - is this unsuitable for HylaFAX's purpose? (ignoring the fact that it requires a kernel recompile on most newer distros.) Steve Underwood wrote: Rob Hillis wrote: Last time I heard IAXModem didn't support T.38 because the IAX2 protocol didn't support T.38 - whether that's still the case or not, I don't know. There are actually two reasons. One is that T.38 over IAX is not defined. The other is the current T.38 termination support in spandsp is only for the full FAX machine it contains. T.38 termination to the class 1 FAX modem (T.31) interface for HylaFAX is a work in progress. When that is done, I hope we will have a sipmodem to replace iaxmodem, offering bother audio and T.38 to HylaFAX functionality. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Hi Rob, Rob Hillis wrote: Well that answers that question. I see that t38modem provides an H232 modem - is this unsuitable for HylaFAX's purpose? (ignoring the fact that it requires a kernel recompile on most newer distros.) Steve Underwood wrote: Rob Hillis wrote: Last time I heard IAXModem didn't support T.38 because the IAX2 protocol didn't support T.38 - whether that's still the case or not, I don't know. There are actually two reasons. One is that T.38 over IAX is not defined. The other is the current T.38 termination support in spandsp is only for the full FAX machine it contains. T.38 termination to the class 1 FAX modem (T.31) interface for HylaFAX is a work in progress. When that is done, I hope we will have a sipmodem to replace iaxmodem, offering bother audio and T.38 to HylaFAX functionality. Steve The most recent versions of t38modem can apparently provide both a SIP and H.323 T.38 to class 1 FAX modem interface for HylaFAX. What it cannot provide is an audio FAX interface. The sipmodem code I am working on will integrate audio and T.38 FAX processing in a single SIP entity. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
I'm not looking at T.38 , at this time its terminating a SIP trunk with multiple DID's for fax. I'm using this configuration with linksys PAP ATA and satisfied with results. I'm looking at removing these ATA 's and using Asterisk ( or giving it a try ) for terminating fax. Last time I heard IAXModem didn't support T.38 because the IAX2 protocol didn't support T.38 - whether that's still the case or not, I don't know. There are actually two reasons. One is that T.38 over IAX is not defined. The other is the current T.38 termination support in spandsp is only for the full FAX machine it contains. T.38 termination to the class 1 FAX modem (T.31) interface for HylaFAX is a work in progress. When that is done, I hope we will have a sipmodem to replace iaxmodem, offering bother audio and T.38 to HylaFAX functionality. Steve The most recent versions of t38modem can apparently provide both a SIP and H.323 T.38 to class 1 FAX modem interface for HylaFAX. What it cannot provide is an audio FAX interface. The sipmodem code I am working on will integrate audio and T.38 FAX processing in a single SIP entity. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Then I suggest you prepare yourself for a lot of pain. Fax over the 'net without T.38 is almost guaranteed to not work. Al lists wrote: I'm not looking at T.38 , at this time its terminating a SIP trunk with multiple DID's for fax. I'm using this configuration with linksys PAP ATA and satisfied with results. I'm looking at removing these ATA 's and using Asterisk ( or giving it a try ) for terminating fax. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
REALY?? Humm I have been doing this for over a year and we receive over 400 faxes a month! 8 iaxmodems with DID's from a real SIP provider. And this connection is used for ALL office traffic, mail, VPN, webmail, and DNS. NO echo and no voice quality issues. Now we do have a 12mb down 768k up connection. Jonn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hillis Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:51 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax Then I suggest you prepare yourself for a lot of pain. Fax over the 'net without T.38 is almost guaranteed to not work. Al lists wrote: I'm not looking at T.38 , at this time its terminating a SIP trunk with multiple DID's for fax. I'm using this configuration with linksys PAP ATA and satisfied with results. I'm looking at removing these ATA 's and using Asterisk ( or giving it a try ) for terminating fax. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Jonn R Taylor wrote: REALY?? Humm I have been doing this for over a year and we receive over 400 faxes a month! 8 iaxmodems with DID's from a real SIP provider. And this connection is used for ALL office traffic, mail, VPN, webmail, and DNS. NO echo and no voice quality issues. Now we do have a 12mb down 768k up connection. How often are you checking your HylaFAX+ Logs? Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
I have it setup to email me any failed fax connections. Most of the faxes come from remote offices, distributors and customers. Jonn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Lytle Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 2:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax Jonn R Taylor wrote: REALY?? Humm I have been doing this for over a year and we receive over 400 faxes a month! 8 iaxmodems with DID's from a real SIP provider. And this connection is used for ALL office traffic, mail, VPN, webmail, and DNS. NO echo and no voice quality issues. Now we do have a 12mb down 768k up connection. How often are you checking your HylaFAX+ Logs? Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Jonn R Taylor wrote: I have it setup to email me any failed fax connections. Most of the faxes come from remote offices, distributors and customers. Same here, but HylaFAX won't send you any logs of attempts that haven't at least negotiated a fax transmission. Call comes in, tries to sync up several times and then hangs up. It gets logged, but doesn't get sent to the FaxMaster. You may want to check. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 13:48 -0600, Jonn R Taylor wrote: REALY?? Humm I have been doing this for over a year and we receive over 400 faxes a month! 8 iaxmodems with DID's from a real SIP provider. And this connection is used for ALL office traffic, mail, VPN, webmail, and DNS. NO echo and no voice quality issues. Now we do have a 12mb down 768k up connection. Can you share more details about your implementation? what are you using for faxing? Regards, -- Guillermo Salas M. Telconet S.A. Calle 15 y Avenida 24 Esq Edificio Barre #2 Primer Piso Telefono : +593 5 262 8071 Celular : +593 9 985 5138 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www : http://www.manta.telconet.net http://www.telcocarrier.net SIP : [EMAIL PROTECTED] FWD : 558563 USA : 1 360 968 1701 Linux User: 255902 Beat me, whip me, make me use Windows! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Please avoid the Top Posting, see http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
If I had ANY failed faxes I would here about it. Iaxmodem creates a log of its own, so when I get a connection that fails hylafax sends the failure to me. One of the things that I found is you need to add nojitterbuffer to the iaxmodem config file, only use g711, and you must have QOS enabled on your switches and/or a traffic shaper on your internet connection. I have a remote office that uses an IAX trunk and I can fax between these to offices over the internet. I have both app_txfax and app_rxfax also setup on asterisk and can use any of them. We also have 1 linksys ata that has a networked brother printer/fax and we can send faxes from it to any of the fax services on our network or any PSTN number. Jonn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Lytle Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 2:56 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax Jonn R Taylor wrote: I have it setup to email me any failed fax connections. Most of the faxes come from remote offices, distributors and customers. Same here, but HylaFAX won't send you any logs of attempts that haven't at least negotiated a fax transmission. Call comes in, tries to sync up several times and then hangs up. It gets logged, but doesn't get sent to the FaxMaster. You may want to check. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Jonn R Taylor wrote: If I had ANY failed faxes I would here about it. Iaxmodem creates a log of its own, so when I get a connection that fails hylafax sends the failure to me. One of the things that I found is you need to add nojitterbuffer to the iaxmodem config file, Really? I'll have to do some testing, I've never tried since I've read you can't. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Jonn R Taylor wrote: One of the things that I found is you need to add nojitterbuffer to the iaxmodem config file The reason that you need the nojitterbuffer in the iaxmodem config file is because you're actually getting at least some jitter. IAXmodem's jitterbuffer simply fills-in gaps due to jitter with previously-heard audio samples. There is no way to recreate the missing audio. Filling-in the gaps with previous audio samples is effective in preventing premature carrier loss conditions, but it messes up the modems until real carrier loss does occur. It turns out that in most cases it's better to simply skip over the missing audio. The DSP seems to handle that quite gracefully. Thanks, Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
I have always said that if some one said it can't be done, they did not try hard enough. FYI... I love this. Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Jonn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Lytle Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:42 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax Jonn R Taylor wrote: If I had ANY failed faxes I would here about it. Iaxmodem creates a log of its own, so when I get a connection that fails hylafax sends the failure to me. One of the things that I found is you need to add nojitterbuffer to the iaxmodem config file, Really? I'll have to do some testing, I've never tried since I've read you can't. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
That is correct. I found that out awhile ago with our internal fax. It would not connect, but the external faxes coming in over SIP worked. Jonn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Howard Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:50 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax Jonn R Taylor wrote: One of the things that I found is you need to add nojitterbuffer to the iaxmodem config file The reason that you need the nojitterbuffer in the iaxmodem config file is because you're actually getting at least some jitter. IAXmodem's jitterbuffer simply fills-in gaps due to jitter with previously-heard audio samples. There is no way to recreate the missing audio. Filling-in the gaps with previous audio samples is effective in preventing premature carrier loss conditions, but it messes up the modems until real carrier loss does occur. It turns out that in most cases it's better to simply skip over the missing audio. The DSP seems to handle that quite gracefully. Thanks, Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
I'd say consider yourself very lucky. I know I did some testing here some time ago with faxing over VoIP. * One extension to another over G711a with both extensions on the same LAN - worked 95% of the time * One extension on my Asterisk server to an Extension on a friend's Asterisk server using G711a via IAX - 95% failure rate. Both of us awere on the same ISP and had ping times of ~40ms between us. However, in a live environment, I convert a PSTN call to a t.38 encoded call and can send the fax just about anywhere I damn well want (where the remote end supports t.38) with a 95% success rate. t.38 is the key to successful faxing over a VoIP network. Without it, you're begging for trouble. Doug Lytle wrote: Jonn R Taylor wrote: If I had ANY failed faxes I would here about it. Iaxmodem creates a log of its own, so when I get a connection that fails hylafax sends the failure to me. One of the things that I found is you need to add nojitterbuffer to the iaxmodem config file, Really? I'll have to do some testing, I've never tried since I've read you can't. Doug ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
NOT true and I have proven that for the last year. Jonn _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hillis Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:13 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax I'd say consider yourself very lucky. I know I did some testing here some time ago with faxing over VoIP. * One extension to another over G711a with both extensions on the same LAN - worked 95% of the time * One extension on my Asterisk server to an Extension on a friend's Asterisk server using G711a via IAX - 95% failure rate. Both of us awere on the same ISP and had ping times of ~40ms between us. However, in a live environment, I convert a PSTN call to a t.38 encoded call and can send the fax just about anywhere I damn well want (where the remote end supports t.38) with a 95% success rate. t.38 is the key to successful faxing over a VoIP network. Without it, you're begging for trouble. Doug Lytle wrote: Jonn R Taylor wrote: If I had ANY failed faxes I would here about it. Iaxmodem creates a log of its own, so when I get a connection that fails hylafax sends the failure to me. One of the things that I found is you need to add nojitterbuffer to the iaxmodem config file, Really? I'll have to do some testing, I've never tried since I've read you can't. Doug ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Jonn R Taylor wrote: FYI... I love this. Ben Franklin quote: I truly believe it. But, it being a Franklin quote is in some dispute. I like it all the same. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Jonn R Taylor wrote: I have always said that if some one said it can't be done, they did not try hard enough. FYI... I love this. Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. As the person behind the tools you are relying on, I can say you haven't tried hard at all. You are just lucky, and almost certainly just being very reliant on the majority of your FAXes using ECM mode, and retrying a lot. Trying hard for FAX over IP means implementing T.37, or at least T.38. These are engineered solutions, not pot luck. Your present arrangement assumes G.711 (not available a lot of the time), no signal manipulation in the system beyond your controls (getting rarer and rarer), a very crude network doing nothing to improve voice quality (should be getting rarer too), limited packet loss (which is truly pot luck over the internet, which you say you use), and a few other magic qualities. A number of people claim solid FAXing results across VoIP paths, like they've achieved some engineering breakthrough. The claims tend to evaporate under closer inspection. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Guys! what i was looking here was a simple hint/recommendation for installing IaxModem and Hylafax. Let me try it myself and see how feasible this solutions is. On Jan 1, 2008 5:02 PM, Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonn R Taylor wrote: I have always said that if some one said it can't be done, they did not try hard enough. FYI... I love this. Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. As the person behind the tools you are relying on, I can say you haven't tried hard at all. You are just lucky, and almost certainly just being very reliant on the majority of your FAXes using ECM mode, and retrying a lot. Trying hard for FAX over IP means implementing T.37, or at least T.38. These are engineered solutions, not pot luck. Your present arrangement assumes G.711 (not available a lot of the time), no signal manipulation in the system beyond your controls (getting rarer and rarer), a very crude network doing nothing to improve voice quality (should be getting rarer too), limited packet loss (which is truly pot luck over the internet, which you say you use), and a few other magic qualities. A number of people claim solid FAXing results across VoIP paths, like they've achieved some engineering breakthrough. The claims tend to evaporate under closer inspection. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Steve, One of the main reasons that this works is controlling the data to and from the internet. I have spent the last 10 years building networks for ISP's. The key is getting the data from point a to point b in tact and in order. I did not get lucky as you put it. I am a network engineer and I know how to make networks work the way they need to. Jonn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Underwood Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:02 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax Jonn R Taylor wrote: I have always said that if some one said it can't be done, they did not try hard enough. FYI... I love this. Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. As the person behind the tools you are relying on, I can say you haven't tried hard at all. You are just lucky, and almost certainly just being very reliant on the majority of your FAXes using ECM mode, and retrying a lot. Trying hard for FAX over IP means implementing T.37, or at least T.38. These are engineered solutions, not pot luck. Your present arrangement assumes G.711 (not available a lot of the time), no signal manipulation in the system beyond your controls (getting rarer and rarer), a very crude network doing nothing to improve voice quality (should be getting rarer too), limited packet loss (which is truly pot luck over the internet, which you say you use), and a few other magic qualities. A number of people claim solid FAXing results across VoIP paths, like they've achieved some engineering breakthrough. The claims tend to evaporate under closer inspection. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
I think perhaps you are the exception rather than the rule. Maybe you were able to engineer your network so that fax works without any of the FoIP protocols - good luck to you if you have. For /most/ people, it's unlikely they would have sufficient control over their WAN segment to ensure that it is sufficiently fast and reliable enough for fax to work reliably. In any case, why on earth would you attempt to re-invent the wheel? T.38 is not only considerably more reliable and robust, it's nowhere /near/ as bandwidth intensive as G711. The original question was regarding using IAXmodem and Hylafax to receive faxes over a SIP connection. Given that T.38 can not work in this situation, the simple answer is that it /isn't/ the best solution. Jonn R Taylor wrote: NOT true and I have proven that for the last year. Jonn *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Rob Hillis *Sent:* Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:13 PM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax I'd say consider yourself very lucky. I know I did some testing here some time ago with faxing over VoIP. * One extension to another over G711a with both extensions on the same LAN - worked 95% of the time * One extension on my Asterisk server to an Extension on a friend's Asterisk server using G711a via IAX - 95% failure rate. Both of us awere on the same ISP and had ping times of ~40ms between us. However, in a live environment, I convert a PSTN call to a t.38 encoded call and can send the fax just about anywhere I damn well want (where the remote end supports t.38) with a 95% success rate. t.38 is the key to successful faxing over a VoIP network. Without it, you're begging for trouble. Doug Lytle wrote: Jonn R Taylor wrote: If I had ANY failed faxes I would here about it. Iaxmodem creates a log of its own, so when I get a connection that fails hylafax sends the failure to me. One of the things that I found is you need to add nojitterbuffer to the iaxmodem config file, Really? I'll have to do some testing, I've never tried since I've read you can't. Doug ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 PM, Al lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what method is preferred: haylafax and Iaxmodem or spnadsp for faxing. What are you trying to do and do you have a T1 or ISDN line? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
at this time is terminating a SIP trunk, each DID will get its own fax box. I guess at this time i'm looking to find a tutorial for installing iaxmodem and hylafax as it seems to be the answer. On Dec 31, 2007 9:11 PM, Andrew Joakimsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 PM, Al lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what method is preferred: haylafax and Iaxmodem or spnadsp for faxing. What are you trying to do and do you have a T1 or ISDN line? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Unless your provider provides a T.38 gateway, fax over SIP is pretty much guaranteed to be unusable. Often you can get away with it over a LAN using G711a or G711u, but any of the lower bandwidth codecs /won't/ be able to properly handle fax calls. Whilst I haven't used it myself, I believe IAXmodem and Hylafax are used for sending and receiving faxes from a local PSTN termination point such as T1 or ISDN. The IAXmodem web site explains the pitfalls of faxing over the internet. See http://iaxmodem.sourceforge.net/faq.php for more info. Last time I heard IAXModem didn't support T.38 because the IAX2 protocol didn't support T.38 - whether that's still the case or not, I don't know. Al lists wrote: at this time is terminating a SIP trunk, each DID will get its own fax box. I guess at this time i'm looking to find a tutorial for installing iaxmodem and hylafax as it seems to be the answer. On Dec 31, 2007 9:11 PM, Andrew Joakimsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 PM, Al lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what method is preferred: haylafax and Iaxmodem or spnadsp for faxing. What are you trying to do and do you have a T1 or ISDN line? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
If by fax box you mean an ATA with a fax machine attached them Asterisk 1.4 with T38 passthrough should work if the SIP provider has T.38 capabilites. If by fax box you mean a 'faxmail inbox' then no Asterisk cannot help you terminate that from SIP. Get a Cisco gateway, make sure your provider uses T.38 and connect that to your Asterisk via T1 or E1. On Jan 1, 2008 12:50 AM, Al lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at this time is terminating a SIP trunk, each DID will get its own fax box. I guess at this time i'm looking to find a tutorial for installing iaxmodem and hylafax as it seems to be the answer. On Dec 31, 2007 9:11 PM, Andrew Joakimsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 PM, Al lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what method is preferred: haylafax and Iaxmodem or spnadsp for faxing. What are you trying to do and do you have a T1 or ISDN line? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Rob Hillis wrote: Last time I heard IAXModem didn't support T.38 because the IAX2 protocol didn't support T.38 - whether that's still the case or not, I don't know. There are actually two reasons. One is that T.38 over IAX is not defined. The other is the current T.38 termination support in spandsp is only for the full FAX machine it contains. T.38 termination to the class 1 FAX modem (T.31) interface for HylaFAX is a work in progress. When that is done, I hope we will have a sipmodem to replace iaxmodem, offering bother audio and T.38 to HylaFAX functionality. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Al lists wrote: So HylaFax and IaxModem is more preferred than using rxfax/txfax ? any reason? HylaFAX+ has built-in support for handling transmission errors. It used to be (Not sure now) that when rx/txfax encountered an error, it just quit. HylaFAX+ also has many features available for converting/scheduling and routing inbound/outbound faxes. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Any recommended how to for 1.4 iaxmodem and hylafax+ ? On Dec 29, 2007 6:49 AM, Doug Lytle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al lists wrote: So HylaFax and IaxModem is more preferred than using rxfax/txfax ? any reason? HylaFAX+ has built-in support for handling transmission errors. It used to be (Not sure now) that when rx/txfax encountered an error, it just quit. HylaFAX+ also has many features available for converting/scheduling and routing inbound/outbound faxes. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
I maintain some scripts that I wrote to do a full CentOS Asterisk Hylafax iaxmodem install. All here on the list are welcome to use them. They new scripts are located here http://www.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/ Jonn _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al lists Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:44 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax Any recommended how to for 1.4 iaxmodem and hylafax+ ? On Dec 29, 2007 6:49 AM, Doug Lytle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al lists wrote: So HylaFax and IaxModem is more preferred than using rxfax/txfax ? any reason? HylaFAX+ has built-in support for handling transmission errors. It used to be (Not sure now) that when rx/txfax encountered an error, it just quit. HylaFAX+ also has many features available for converting/scheduling and routing inbound/outbound faxes. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 08:43:30AM -0700, Al lists wrote: Any recommended how to for 1.4 iaxmodem and hylafax+ ? Just a note: the interface of iaxmodem to Asterisk hasn't changed since 1.2 . Chances are older documentation will be relevant. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
thank you all, still i'm seeking answer to original question, which one is more preferred in fax servers with 100 usres? On Dec 29, 2007 12:10 PM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 08:43:30AM -0700, Al lists wrote: Any recommended how to for 1.4 iaxmodem and hylafax+ ? Just a note: the interface of iaxmodem to Asterisk hasn't changed since 1.2 . Chances are older documentation will be relevant. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Al lists wrote: thank you all, still i'm seeking answer to original question, which one is more preferred in fax servers with 100 usres? I believe I answered that question. HylaFAX+ and iaxmodem. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Same here. Hylafax and iaxmodem is a good, reliable solution. Ihave been running this for a year with n o problems. Jonn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Lytle Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:32 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax Al lists wrote: thank you all, still i'm seeking answer to original question, which one is more preferred in fax servers with 100 usres? I believe I answered that question. HylaFAX+ and iaxmodem. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Al lists wrote: what method is preferred: haylafax and Iaxmodem or spnadsp for faxing. I think that you mean to say HylaFAX and IAXmodem or txfax/rxfax ... because spandsp is but a DSP/DCE library, and it cannot work alone, and iaxmodem uses spandsp. Thanks, Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
Al lists wrote: what method is preferred: haylafax and Iaxmodem or spnadsp for faxing. HylaFAX+ and iaxmodem (That includes SpanDSP). Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4 Fax
So HylaFax and IaxModem is more preferred than using rxfax/txfax ? any reason? On Dec 28, 2007 6:40 PM, Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al lists wrote: what method is preferred: haylafax and Iaxmodem or spnadsp for faxing. I think that you mean to say HylaFAX and IAXmodem or txfax/rxfax ... because spandsp is but a DSP/DCE library, and it cannot work alone, and iaxmodem uses spandsp. Thanks, Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk - Spandsp Fax not working?
Hi Marco, could you try again with different quality settings on your hardware fax? I see 1728 x 540 in your spandsp log. I think spandsp is only compatible with : standard: width=1728 x length=1128 fine: width=1728 x length=2252 super-fine: width=1728 x length=4491 which are the 3 resolution you commonly find in G3 faxes. I don't know what this mode is : 1728x540. Regards, Pirlouwi. 2007/9/28, marco britannio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/27/07, Jonn R Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marco britannio wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to setup an asterisk based fax receiving machine. i'm using asterisk 1.2.18 and app_rxfax with spandsp 0.0.4pre9 I have no problems with a modem-fax, but with the fax machines i have tried almost every fax fails, both in sending and receive. the machines are sending a receiving a lot of faxes every day and working well, so i think the problem is on the spandsp side. i have tried almost every spandsp version from 0.0.2 to the current one, both with and without ECM, but without luck. has anybody succeeded in receiving faxes with asterisk app_rxfax and spandsp? I'm noticicing a lot of different behaviours: sending w ECM gave me an OK, and the second half of the page was missing, other faxes fail with Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: == Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: Fax receive not successful - result (11) Unexpected message received. Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: == can anybody help me? thank you in advance, marco ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Marco, First off, do not use any version over 0.0.3. I am using 0.0.3 on centos 4.5, asterisk 1.2.24 and freepbx 2.3 and it is working very well. One very important thing to keep in mind is that faxing over voip will only work reliably with ulaw or alaw and your internet connection MUST be able to sustain a constant data stream with low jitter. If your interested I have a shell script to install asterisk 1.2.24 and freepbx-2.3 with rxfax and txfax on centos 4 and working on centos 5. Jonn http://jonnt.users.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/centos-asterisk-install.sh and hylafax / iaxmodem http://jonnt.users.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/ ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users hi john, thank you for your reply. I've installed the configuration that you suggested (asterisk 1.2.24, spandsp 0.0.3), but with no luck: I still cannot receive faxes. Please note that I am not using T38: I am receiving faxes with app_rxfax and storing them into a dir on the machine. I have attached an isdn trunk to the card and I am trying to receive the faxes straight from the trunk. When receiving faxes without ecm, the sending fax machine completes with an error, and this is the log I have in asterisk: Sep 27 11:54:46 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:46 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 4 Sep 27 11:54:48 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 4 Sep 27 11:54:48 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:50 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 8 Sep 27 11:54:50 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:50 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Switching from V.29 + V.21 to V.29 (-15.04dBm0) Sep 27 11:54:52 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:52 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 4 Sep 27 11:54:53 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 8 Sep 27 11:54:53 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:53 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Switching from V.29 + V.21 to V.29 (-17.87dBm0) Sep 27 11:55:17 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 4 Sep 27 11:55:17 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 0 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: == Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Pages transferred: 0 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Image size: 1728 x 540 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Image
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk - Spandsp Fax not working?
On 9/27/07, Jonn R Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marco britannio wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to setup an asterisk based fax receiving machine. i'm using asterisk 1.2.18 and app_rxfax with spandsp 0.0.4pre9 I have no problems with a modem-fax, but with the fax machines i have tried almost every fax fails, both in sending and receive. the machines are sending a receiving a lot of faxes every day and working well, so i think the problem is on the spandsp side. i have tried almost every spandsp version from 0.0.2 to the current one, both with and without ECM, but without luck. has anybody succeeded in receiving faxes with asterisk app_rxfax and spandsp? I'm noticicing a lot of different behaviours: sending w ECM gave me an OK, and the second half of the page was missing, other faxes fail with Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: == Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: Fax receive not successful - result (11) Unexpected message received. Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: == can anybody help me? thank you in advance, marco ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Marco, First off, do not use any version over 0.0.3. I am using 0.0.3 on centos 4.5, asterisk 1.2.24 and freepbx 2.3 and it is working very well. One very important thing to keep in mind is that faxing over voip will only work reliably with ulaw or alaw and your internet connection MUST be able to sustain a constant data stream with low jitter. If your interested I have a shell script to install asterisk 1.2.24 and freepbx-2.3 with rxfax and txfax on centos 4 and working on centos 5. Jonn http://jonnt.users.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/centos-asterisk-install.sh and hylafax / iaxmodem http://jonnt.users.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/ ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users hi john, thank you for your reply. I've installed the configuration that you suggested (asterisk 1.2.24, spandsp 0.0.3), but with no luck: I still cannot receive faxes. Please note that I am not using T38: I am receiving faxes with app_rxfax and storing them into a dir on the machine. I have attached an isdn trunk to the card and I am trying to receive the faxes straight from the trunk. When receiving faxes without ecm, the sending fax machine completes with an error, and this is the log I have in asterisk: Sep 27 11:54:46 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:46 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 4 Sep 27 11:54:48 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 4 Sep 27 11:54:48 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:50 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 8 Sep 27 11:54:50 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:50 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Switching from V.29 + V.21to V.29 (-15.04dBm0) Sep 27 11:54:52 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:52 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 4 Sep 27 11:54:53 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 8 Sep 27 11:54:53 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 0 Sep 27 11:54:53 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Switching from V.29 + V.21to V.29 (-17.87dBm0) Sep 27 11:55:17 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 4 Sep 27 11:55:17 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set tx type 0 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: == Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Pages transferred: 0 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Image size: 1728 x 540 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Image resolution8037 x 3850 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Transfer Rate: 9600 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Bad rows50 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Longest bad row run 10 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Compression type2 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: Image size (bytes) 116841 Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: == Sep 27 11:55:19 DEBUG[8783] app_rxfax.c: FLOW FAX Set rx type 0 Sep 27 11:55:19
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk - Spandsp Fax not working?
marco britannio wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to setup an asterisk based fax receiving machine. i'm using asterisk 1.2.18 and app_rxfax with spandsp 0.0.4pre9 I have no problems with a modem-fax, but with the fax machines i have tried almost every fax fails, both in sending and receive. the machines are sending a receiving a lot of faxes every day and working well, so i think the problem is on the spandsp side. i have tried almost every spandsp version from 0.0.2 to the current one, both with and without ECM, but without luck. has anybody succeeded in receiving faxes with asterisk app_rxfax and spandsp? I'm noticicing a lot of different behaviours: sending w ECM gave me an OK, and the second half of the page was missing, other faxes fail with Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: == Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: Fax receive not successful - result (11) Unexpected message received. Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: == can anybody help me? thank you in advance, marco ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Marco, First off, do not use any version over 0.0.3. I am using 0.0.3 on centos 4.5, asterisk 1.2.24 and freepbx 2.3 and it is working very well. One very important thing to keep in mind is that faxing over voip will only work reliably with ulaw or alaw and your internet connection MUST be able to sustain a constant data stream with low jitter. If your interested I have a shell script to install asterisk 1.2.24 and freepbx-2.3 with rxfax and txfax on centos 4 and working on centos 5. Jonn http://jonnt.users.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/centos-asterisk-install.sh and hylafax / iaxmodem http://jonnt.users.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/ ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk - Spandsp Fax not working?
Jonn R Taylor wrote: marco britannio wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to setup an asterisk based fax receiving machine. i'm using asterisk 1.2.18 and app_rxfax with spandsp 0.0.4pre9 I have no problems with a modem-fax, but with the fax machines i have tried almost every fax fails, both in sending and receive. the machines are sending a receiving a lot of faxes every day and working well, so i think the problem is on the spandsp side. i have tried almost every spandsp version from 0.0.2 to the current one, both with and without ECM, but without luck. has anybody succeeded in receiving faxes with asterisk app_rxfax and spandsp? I'm noticicing a lot of different behaviours: sending w ECM gave me an OK, and the second half of the page was missing, other faxes fail with Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: == Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: Fax receive not successful - result (11) Unexpected message received. Sep 26 17:26:18 DEBUG[4741] app_rxfax.c: == can anybody help me? thank you in advance, marco ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Marco, First off, do not use any version over 0.0.3. I am using 0.0.3 on centos 4.5, asterisk 1.2.24 and freepbx 2.3 and it is working very well. One very important thing to keep in mind is that faxing over voip will only work reliably with ulaw or alaw and your internet connection MUST be able to sustain a constant data stream with low jitter. If your interested I have a shell script to install asterisk 1.2.24 and freepbx-2.3 with rxfax and txfax on centos 4 and working on centos 5. Jonn http://jonnt.users.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/centos-asterisk-install.sh and hylafax / iaxmodem http://jonnt.users.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/ ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Oopps, missed the file name. http://jonnt.users.taylortelephone.com/asterisk/iax-hylafax-setup.sh ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk and fax machine
Hi! Either the fax machine or the asterisk box has to pick up the call to know whether it is a fax or not. My solution is that I let asterisk pick up every call, and if it is a fax, then the call is forwarded to a fax-machine. If its a voice call, the call is forwarded to the phones. [incoming] exten = s,1,Answer() ;automatic answer for fax recognition exten = s,2,Wait(3);prevents ringing when it is a fax exten = s,3,Dial(Sip/21Sip/22Sip/25Sip/26,45,t) ;ring phones exten = s,4,Hangup ;hangup after 45 secondes ;is it a fax? then take it here! exten = fax,1,Dial(Zap/1) But this solution implies that asterisk picks up every call immediately. So the caller has to pay for the call before he can talk to you. tom aslay-pinwee wrote: Hi, I need to share my PSTN line with my Digium card together with my FAX machine. If fax coming in, will asterisk pick up the call or my fax machine pick up the call. How do I make asterisk not to answer the incoming fax and let my fax machine receive the fax. Similarly, how do I make my fax machine not to answer any voice call and let my asterisk answer.. Regards ASLAY ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk and fax machine
Hi, Thank you very much. I will test your method ASLAY - Original Message - From: Thomas Artner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk and fax machine Hi! Either the fax machine or the asterisk box has to pick up the call to know whether it is a fax or not. My solution is that I let asterisk pick up every call, and if it is a fax, then the call is forwarded to a fax-machine. If its a voice call, the call is forwarded to the phones. [incoming] exten = s,1,Answer() ;automatic answer for fax recognition exten = s,2,Wait(3);prevents ringing when it is a fax exten = s,3,Dial(Sip/21Sip/22Sip/25Sip/26,45,t) ;ring phones exten = s,4,Hangup ;hangup after 45 secondes ;is it a fax? then take it here! exten = fax,1,Dial(Zap/1) But this solution implies that asterisk picks up every call immediately. So the caller has to pay for the call before he can talk to you. tom aslay-pinwee wrote: Hi, I need to share my PSTN line with my Digium card together with my FAX machine. If fax coming in, will asterisk pick up the call or my fax machine pick up the call. How do I make asterisk not to answer the incoming fax and let my fax machine receive the fax. Similarly, how do I make my fax machine not to answer any voice call and let my asterisk answer.. Regards ASLAY ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk and fax machine
Another solution: http://www.vikingtelecomsolutions.com/catalog/model_FAXJ-300.htm?sid=046EBF6027C7A0D38E77EAF75B184540pid=1209 Jorge aslay-pinwee wrote: Hi, Thank you very much. I will test your method ASLAY - Original Message - From: Thomas Artner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk and fax machine Hi! Either the fax machine or the asterisk box has to pick up the call to know whether it is a fax or not. My solution is that I let asterisk pick up every call, and if it is a fax, then the call is forwarded to a fax-machine. If its a voice call, the call is forwarded to the phones. [incoming] exten = s,1,Answer() ;automatic answer for fax recognition exten = s,2,Wait(3);prevents ringing when it is a fax exten = s,3,Dial(Sip/21Sip/22Sip/25Sip/26,45,t) ;ring phones exten = s,4,Hangup ;hangup after 45 secondes ;is it a fax? then take it here! exten = fax,1,Dial(Zap/1) But this solution implies that asterisk picks up every call immediately. So the caller has to pay for the call before he can talk to you. tom aslay-pinwee wrote: Hi, I need to share my PSTN line with my Digium card together with my FAX machine. If fax coming in, will asterisk pick up the call or my fax machine pick up the call. How do I make asterisk not to answer the incoming fax and let my fax machine receive the fax. Similarly, how do I make my fax machine not to answer any voice call and let my asterisk answer.. Regards ASLAY ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk and fax machine
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 12:49 +0200, Thomas Artner wrote: My solution is that I let asterisk pick up every call, and if it is a fax, then the call is forwarded to a fax-machine. If its a voice call, the call is forwarded to the phones. That is what I do as well. Use the fax extension to forward FAX calls. This does require that the FAX machine be connected to an FXS port on your Digium card. I do this with another computer with a FAX modem connected to an FXS port on my Digium card and it works great. Eventually, I'd like to move the FAX modem to the same machine with the Digium card so that I won't have to have another machine up to receive faxes; anybody ever tried that? It would be something I've never tried, having an RJ-11 cable between two cards in the same box. Any grounding/feedback issues with doing that? --Greg ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax
For an all electronic solution, use fax2mail and mail2fax (from www.generationd.com). For a fancier all VOIP solution consider hylafax. For analog only you can plug your fax machine in as you suggest. For a step up, buy an ATA with T.38 capability and plug your fax machine into that. MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of --[ UxBoD ]-- Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:34 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax Hi, I have a requirement for sending and receiving faxes and was wondering the best way to achieve it with Asterisk as I only have one phone line. I currently have a TDM11B in my server (1 x FXO, 1 x FXS), so I was thinking that I would need to get a additional FXS module, connect that to a Eicon Fax card, and then when receiving a call detect the fax tone and bridge the call to the FXS channel. Would that work okay ? Just seems fax cards are very expensive for what they do. -- --[ UxBoD ]-- // PGP Key: curl -s http://www.splatnix.net/uxbod.asc | gpg --import // Fingerprint: 543A E778 7F2D 98F1 3E50 9C1F F190 93E0 E8E8 0CF8 // Keyserver: www.keyserver.net Key-ID: 0xE8E80CF8 // SIP Phone: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:34:19PM +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, I have a requirement for sending and receiving faxes and was wondering the best way to achieve it with Asterisk as I only have one phone line. I currently have a TDM11B in my server (1 x FXO, 1 x FXS), so I was thinking that I would need to get a additional FXS module, connect that to a Eicon Fax card, and then when receiving a call detect the fax tone and bridge the call to the FXS channel. Why not put a fax machine on the FXS port? Or route those calls to a local iaxmodem/hylafax? or simply recieve faxes to a rxfax? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax
I would just put the phone line into the fax machine and the phone jack from it into the fxs card. It is a simple solution. Bob --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, I have a requirement for sending and receiving faxes and was wondering the best way to achieve it with Asterisk as I only have one phone line. I currently have a TDM11B in my server (1 x FXO, 1 x FXS), so I was thinking that I would need to get a additional FXS module, connect that to a Eicon Fax card, and then when receiving a call detect the fax tone and bridge the call to the FXS channel. Would that work okay ? Just seems fax cards are very expensive for what they do. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax
--[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, I have a requirement for sending and receiving faxes and was wondering the best way to achieve it with Asterisk as I only have one phone line. I currently have a TDM11B in my server (1 x FXO, 1 x FXS), so I was thinking that I would need to get a additional FXS module, connect that to a Eicon Fax card, and then when receiving a call detect the fax tone and bridge the call to the FXS channel. Would that work okay ? Just seems fax cards are very expensive for what they do. Setup a separate server with the modem and run Hylafax. Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:59:25 -0500 Robert A. Rawlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would just put the phone line into the fax machine and the phone jack from it into the fxs card. It is a simple solution. Bob --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, I have a requirement for sending and receiving faxes and was wondering the best way to achieve it with Asterisk as I only have one phone line. I currently have a TDM11B in my server (1 x FXO, 1 x FXS), so I was thinking that I would need to get a additional FXS module, connect that to a Eicon Fax card, and then when receiving a call detect the fax tone and bridge the call to the FXS channel. Would that work okay ? Just seems fax cards are very expensive for what they do. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users The reason for going down the route I proposed was so that faxes would end up as attachments in my partners mailbox. I am trying to centralise emails, voicemail and faxes on our home server for her business. Regards, -- --[ UxBoD ]-- // PGP Key: curl -s http://www.splatnix.net/uxbod.asc | gpg --import // Fingerprint: 543A E778 7F2D 98F1 3E50 9C1F F190 93E0 E8E8 0CF8 // Keyserver: www.keyserver.net Key-ID: 0xE8E80CF8 // SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax
No. Asterisk does not have fax support and there are no plans to add it. You can however send the faxes as voice calls, however there is no assurance as to its reliability. Maybe most will work but some will without a doubt be predestine to fail. On 3/2/07, --[ UxBoD ]-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a requirement for sending and receiving faxes and was wondering the best way to achieve it with Asterisk as I only have one phone line. I currently have a TDM11B in my server (1 x FXO, 1 x FXS), so I was thinking that I would need to get a additional FXS module, connect that to a Eicon Fax card, and then when receiving a call detect the fax tone and bridge the call to the FXS channel. Would that work okay ? Just seems fax cards are very expensive for what they do. -- --[ UxBoD ]-- // PGP Key: curl -s http://www.splatnix.net/uxbod.asc | gpg --import // Fingerprint: 543A E778 7F2D 98F1 3E50 9C1F F190 93E0 E8E8 0CF8 // Keyserver: www.keyserver.net Key-ID: 0xE8E80CF8 // SIP Phone: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax How To
Noc Phibee wrote: Hi i have a asterisk server with a Digium 4xE1 card connected to my local operator. I am search a How to for : - Add a Mail to Fax server - Add a Fax to Mail Server http://iaxmode.sourceforge.net http://hylafax.sourceforge.net Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax How To
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RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax How To
Check out www.generationd.com for a couple of useful scripts (fax2mail and mail2fax). If I interpret your question properly, you looking for scripts. If in fact you are looking for sendmail/libtiff help, have a search through the archives. MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Noc Phibee Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:01 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and Fax How To Hi i have a asterisk server with a Digium 4xE1 card connected to my local operator. I am search a How to for : - Add a Mail to Fax server - Add a Fax to Mail Server thanks bye ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Fax part 2
Get a regular POTS line and put a 50.00 fax on it.
There are too many variables,
1. Does your provider really give you a clean g.711 connection or are they
routing you from a VoIP based Trunk.
2. The internet may not provide the bandwidth or the relability you need
to have a fax connection.
3. Faxing for me works over IP but it is over a point to point network or
a network that respects my QoS
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Fax part 2
Hello,
I've been trying to setup a Fax2Email mecanism on my Asterisk
box. I have been using the following:
1) An incoming IAX line on Unlimitel (Im not even sure if
it's worth mentionning the provider, but I do just in case)
2) NVBackGroundDetect from Newman Telecom
3) The following extension to test:
exten =
fax,1,SetVar(FAXFILE=/var/spool/asterisk-fax/${UNIQUEID}.tif)
exten = fax,2,rxfax(${FAXFILE})
4) A fax on a PSTN line to test the fax-to-file part of the system.
Now, the extensions are called when appropriate, and the
system seems to work...until the fax actually tries to send
the image, and then I get a LINE ERROR on the sending fax.
The actual error code goes something like this:
COM.E-7
In IAX.conf, I have configured it as disallow=all and
allow=ulaw as specified in the instructions I found on the
following page http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+fax .
Where should I start looking to resolve this issue?
Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Fax part 2
Just a quick note, make sure /var/spool/asterisk-fax/ exists and is writable by whatever asterisk runs as. Assuming your connection is good enough, I had LINE ERRORs because app_rxfax aborted right after the handshake as it would not write the output file. I think there is a debug mode in app_rxfax that may shed some light. Otherwise see Alexander's reply about the connection quality. --Luki ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk to Fax Server
Title: Message There is a problem with Avaya that DS1 cards are nor recognizing incoming FAX. Using unified messaging I must answer the call and if I hear a Faxpulse I have to transferthe call to UM. I want Asterisk do this job. Recognize fax and send directly to UM. In my previous mail I used the term "Fax server"to make it simple Thanks Arcady -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy KuoSent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:38 PMTo: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk to Fax ServerWhat Fax server are you using? On 11/21/05, Arcady Litmanovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm looking for following solution: Asterisk is connected to PSTN by Digium or some another card which has Fax Detection If incoming call is a fax I woud like to transfer it to External Fax server by SIP or H323 for getting a Fax. If incoming call is a voice to direct it to another trunk. Is it possible to make it on Asterisk? If yes which E1 card is preferable? Thanks in advance Arcady ___--Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listAsterisk-Users@lists.digium.comhttp://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk to Fax Server
What Fax server are you using? On 11/21/05, Arcady Litmanovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm looking for following solution: Asterisk is connected to PSTN by Digium or some another card which has Fax Detection If incoming call is a fax I woud like to transfer it to External Fax server by SIP or H323 for getting a Fax. If incoming call is a voice to direct it to another trunk. Is it possible to make it on Asterisk? If yes which E1 card is preferable? Thanks in advance Arcady ___--Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listAsterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
On May 18, 2005 08:04 am, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
You can get the info and stamp it into the image yourself with some
third
party TIFF manipulation tools, I bet.
I wouldn't mind doing so if I knew where this Fax ID information is
stored or how to retrieve it, or if it's even possible.
That would be the ${REMOTESTATIONID} extension variable. RxFax sets it, among
other variables, upon fax reception completion. Show Application RxFax for
more information.
-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
HelloOn 20/05/2005, at 6:41 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:That would be the ${REMOTESTATIONID} extension variable. RxFax sets it, among other variables, upon fax reception completion. "Show Application RxFax" for more information. Great.. Exactly what I was looking for... Thank you for that.Jean-Yves --- Jean-Yves Avenard Hydrix Pty Ltd - Embedding the net www.hydrix.com | fax +61 3 95722686 | office +61 3 8573 5299 | direct +61 3 8573 5200 ___
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
On Wed, 18 May 2005, Steve Underwood wrote: The header is always in the received image. The TIFF file contains exactly the same image that a receiving FAX machine would print out. I think he is refering to the remote fax id to be presented, not the header. I.e. the 20 digit user selectable number on the remote fax. The one often seen on the lcd of the receiving fax and so on. Peter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
HelloOn 18/05/2005, at 4:09 PM, Peter Svensson wrote:I think he is refering to the remote fax id to be presented, not the header. I.e. the 20 digit user selectable number on the remote fax. The one often seen on the lcd of the receiving fax and so on. Yes that's exactly what I'm referring to.Most fax machines I've used print this information on the top left corner or top right corner on any fax received.Is it possible to do this with SpanDSP?Jean-Yves --- Jean-Yves Avenard Hydrix Pty Ltd - Embedding the net www.hydrix.com | fax +61 3 95722686 | office +61 3 8573 5299 | direct +61 3 8573 5200 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
On May 18, 2005 07:22 am, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: Yes that's exactly what I'm referring to. Most fax machines I've used print this information on the top left corner or top right corner on any fax received. Is it possible to do this with SpanDSP? You can get the info and stamp it into the image yourself with some third party TIFF manipulation tools, I bet. rxfax is a simple fax reception app; if you need more than what it offers you you have several options, but they all involve work. :-) I think Steve's been very clear about what rxfax can and can't do. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
HiOn 18/05/2005, at 9:35 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:You can get the info and stamp it into the image yourself with some third party TIFF manipulation tools, I bet. I wouldn't mind doing so if I knew where this Fax ID information is stored or how to retrieve it, or if it's even possible.JY --- Jean-Yves Avenard Hydrix Pty Ltd - Embedding the net www.hydrix.com | fax +61 3 95722686 | office +61 3 8573 5299 | direct +61 3 8573 5200 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: Hello On 18/05/2005, at 4:09 PM, Peter Svensson wrote: I think he is refering to the remote fax id to be presented, not the header. I.e. the 20 digit user selectable number on the remote fax. The one often seen on the lcd of the receiving fax and so on. Yes that's exactly what I'm referring to. Most fax machines I've used print this information on the top left corner or top right corner on any fax received. Is it possible to do this with SpanDSP? Jean-Yves It is only there because the sending machine put it there in the image. Spandsp is not different from how any FAX machine I have ever used behaves. As well as sending the 20 digit number as text, the sending machine puts in the header. Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
Hi PeterOn 18/05/2005, at 10:05 PM, Steve Underwood wrote:It is only there because the sending machine put it there in the image. Spandsp is not different from how any FAX machine I have ever used behaves. As well as sending the 20 digit number as text, the sending machine puts in the header. This is not what I'm referring to... I know what is being put by the remote fax !On my Brother's fax machine (MFC-8820D) today, I've received 3 faxes: all of them at the top showed the caller Fax identity.I received 2 faxes on Asterisk with spandsp, one from the same sender as earlier on the brother: there's nothing at the top.I wouldn't ask if it was obvious the data was inside the image, give me some credits for God's sake !Typically, when somebody is sending a fax on the Brother unit, once the connection has been established the identity of the fax caller is then displayed on the Brother's LCD (and this has nothing to do with PSTN CallerID), what is displayed on the LCD will be printed at the top of each pages. This is this behavior I'm trying to reproduce with Asterisk/Spandsp.JY --- Jean-Yves Avenard Hydrix Pty Ltd - Embedding the net www.hydrix.com | fax +61 3 95722686 | office +61 3 8573 5299 | direct +61 3 8573 5200 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: Hi Peter On 18/05/2005, at 10:05 PM, Steve Underwood wrote: It is only there because the sending machine put it there in the image. Spandsp is not different from how any FAX machine I have ever used behaves. As well as sending the 20 digit number as text, the sending machine puts in the header. This is not what I'm referring to... I know what is being put by the remote fax ! On my Brother's fax machine (MFC-8820D) today, I've received 3 faxes: all of them at the top showed the caller Fax identity. I received 2 faxes on Asterisk with spandsp, one from the same sender as earlier on the brother: there's nothing at the top. I wouldn't ask if it was obvious the data was inside the image, give me some credits for God's sake ! What you are describing is something I have never seen a FAX machine do. Typically, when somebody is sending a fax on the Brother unit, once the connection has been established the identity of the fax caller is then displayed on the Brother's LCD (and this has nothing to do with PSTN CallerID), what is displayed on the LCD will be printed at the top of each pages. This is this behavior I'm trying to reproduce with Asterisk/Spandsp. So you get the calling machine's number shown twice at the top of each page? Once in this extra header, and once in the normal header sent as part of the image? Weird. FAX machines don't normally do that. Does this extra header overlay a part of the page, or does it make the page one line longer? Spandsp puts the calling machine's number in one of the tag fields in the TIFF headers. It puts several things in those tags - the name of the software which generated the file (spandsp), the hostname of the receiving computer, the far machine's ident, the far machine's maker and model (if they can be identified). Programs like tiffdump will show that information. Some image viewers also allow you to see it (don't ask me which ones off hand). Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
HiOn 19/05/2005, at 1:41 AM, Steve Underwood wrote:So you get the calling machine's number shown twice at the top of each page? Once in this extra header, and once in the normal header sent as part of the image? Weird. FAX machines don't normally do that. Does this extra header overlay a part of the page, or does it make the page one line longer? It is printed in very faint characters very close to the top edge of a page. Spandsp puts the calling machine's number in one of the tag fields in the TIFF headers. It puts several things in those tags - the name of the software which generated the file (spandsp), the hostname of the receiving computer, the far machine's ident, the far machine's maker and model (if they can be identified). Programs like tiffdump will show that information. Some image viewers also allow you to see it (don't ask me which ones off hand). I just ran tiffdump on some of the tifff files received, and I can't see the Fax ID in those :(In the fax I sent to myself there is a "ImageDescription (270) ASCII (2) 13" which then contain the entry i entered in the fax settings .Thanks for the hint.Jean-Yves --- Jean-Yves Avenard Hydrix Pty Ltd - Embedding the net www.hydrix.com | fax +61 3 95722686 | office +61 3 8573 5299 | direct +61 3 8573 5200 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
On Wed, 18 May 2005, Steve Underwood wrote: Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: On my Brother's fax machine (MFC-8820D) today, I've received 3 faxes: all of them at the top showed the caller Fax identity. I received 2 faxes on Asterisk with spandsp, one from the same sender as earlier on the brother: there's nothing at the top. I wouldn't ask if it was obvious the data was inside the image, give me some credits for God's sake ! What you are describing is something I have never seen a FAX machine do. Typically, when somebody is sending a fax on the Brother unit, once the connection has been established the identity of the fax caller is then displayed on the Brother's LCD (and this has nothing to do with PSTN CallerID), what is displayed on the LCD will be printed at the top of each pages. This is this behavior I'm trying to reproduce with Asterisk/Spandsp. So you get the calling machine's number shown twice at the top of each page? Once in this extra header, and once in the normal header sent as part of the image? Weird. FAX machines don't normally do that. Does this extra header overlay a part of the page, or does it make the page one line longer? Both the fax machines at work have a setting to add a header on received faxes. The information it adds is the page number, the sending machine id, name (if the sending machine id is in the speed dial list), and date+time. The original poster is not alone in having machines work this way. Spandsp puts the calling machine's number in one of the tag fields in the TIFF headers. It puts several things in those tags - the name of the software which generated the file (spandsp), the hostname of the receiving computer, the far machine's ident, the far machine's maker and model (if they can be identified). Programs like tiffdump will show that information. Some image viewers also allow you to see it (don't ask me which ones off hand). Well, this should solve the original poster's problem. Peter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk - Spandsp: fax header
Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: Hello Steve. On 17/05/2005, at 10:54 PM, Steve Underwood wrote: When a fax is received the header you see is part of the image. As such, it ends up in the TIFF file as part of the image. It is not available as text anywhere. The only way to make it available as text would be to implement OCR. That is complex and messy, and I have no intention to try. The only information sent between the FAX machines as text is the identifier - a 20 character string, which the standard says should be digits, and which is usually set to the telephone number of the FAX machine. That's exactly what I was referring to. Is there any way to display that in the image received? As I wrote previously I usually don't get the sender's callerID, but I do get the phone number printed when receiving with a usual fax machine. It would be nice to get this information with spandsp too To send a fax I'm still using our Brother fax unit, works well... Sorry for not using a new threads before... I thought about it, but the title was correct :) The header is always in the received image. The TIFF file contains exactly the same image that a receiving FAX machine would print out. Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk and fax over ip - concept
That is a nice thought and takes care of problem with fax transmission over
IP. However not applicable in my case though. Most 'fax users' will not have
Asterisk on site but some other fxs gateways instead. Also from what I've
read RxFax tends to cause problems.
Best regards,
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Would the following be a doable solution:
1. An Asterisk-box on site with FXS
2. Plug Fax into FXS
3. User uses facsimile machine to call a number - Asterisk answers
4. Stores called number into variable ${FAXDESTINATION}
5. Use RcfFax of * to store fax within asterisk
6. mail stored fax together with ${FAXDESTINATION} off to central office
with outgoing PSTN?
No PSTN line needed, user does not need to change his/her way of doing
things.
If you want to provide feedback with regards of fax success, prefix the
phonenumber with a 3 letter account number specifying the sender to be
used for later eMail notification.
Just a thought.
rgds
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk and fax over ip - concept
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:28:02PM +0100, Dawid Mielnik wrote: Would the t.38 transmission be properly handled by the t.38 supporting end points whith mediastrem passing through Asterisk ? (dont have much experience with t.38) Has anyone ever tried anything similar / different / wierder to try and deal with fax over ip and Asterisk ? Any suggestions and comments are welcome. What I would do i this situation is work out a fax -- email gateway. Best case this could be done entirely with software on the asterisk box, worst case a faxmodem hairpinned into an fxs card using hylafax. Instead of a fax machine, the people could have a scanner, and they would send their fax as an email attachment. Likewise recieved faxes could be sent directly to a printer, or to an email address, or even stored and made accessible on a webserver... Cheers, -w -- /~\ The ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ /No HTML/RTF in email X No Word docs in email / \ Respect for open standards ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk and fax over ip - concept
Hi! What I would do i this situation is work out a fax -- email gateway. Best case this could be done entirely with software on the asterisk box, worst case a faxmodem hairpinned into an fxs card using hylafax. Why exactly would hylafax be a worst case solution only, why would you tink that that the Asterisk solution is better at all? Instead of a fax machine, the people could have a scanner Hmpf... I've always found that to be a very bad replacement for an analog fax, at least as soon as you have to deal with more than 1 page. Plain old analog fax machines are a very well designed devices... ok, for receiving faxes some unified messaging or e-mail attachment is fine, on that part I can agree. Cheers, Philipp ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk and fax over ip - concept
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 09:31:30PM +0100, Philipp von Klitzing wrote: Why exactly would hylafax be a worst case solution only, why would you tink that that the Asterisk solution is better at all? The worst case would be the modem hairpinned into an FXS port, not hylafax per se. Instead of a fax machine, the people could have a scanner Hmpf... I've always found that to be a very bad replacement for an analog fax, at least as soon as you have to deal with more than 1 page. Plain old analog fax machines are a very well designed devices... I suppose you're right. Perhaps one of those unified printer-copier-scanner things might be better, but the models that will take multiple input pages start getting expensive. I guess it depends whether the people are doing more print-to-fax sort of things or feeding the fax machine with large amounts of paper... -w -- /~\ The ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ /No HTML/RTF in email X No Word docs in email / \ Respect for open standards ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk and fax over ip - concept
Would the following be a doable solution:
1. An Asterisk-box on site with FXS
2. Plug Fax into FXS
3. User uses facsimile machine to call a number - Asterisk answers
4. Stores called number into variable ${FAXDESTINATION}
5. Use RcfFax of * to store fax within asterisk
6. mail stored fax together with ${FAXDESTINATION} off to central office
with outgoing PSTN?
No PSTN line needed, user does not need to change his/her way of doing
things.
If you want to provide feedback with regards of fax success, prefix the
phonenumber with a 3 letter account number specifying the sender to be
used for later eMail notification.
Just a thought.
rgds
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk and fax over ip - concept
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 03:51:51PM -0500, William Waites said: On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 09:31:30PM +0100, Philipp von Klitzing wrote: Why exactly would hylafax be a worst case solution only, why would you tink that that the Asterisk solution is better at all? The worst case would be the modem hairpinned into an FXS port, not hylafax per se. Instead of a fax machine, the people could have a scanner Hmpf... I've always found that to be a very bad replacement for an analog fax, at least as soon as you have to deal with more than 1 page. Plain old analog fax machines are a very well designed devices... I suppose you're right. Perhaps one of those unified printer-copier-scanner things might be better, but the models that will take multiple input pages start getting expensive. I guess it depends whether the people are doing more print-to-fax sort of things or feeding the fax machine with large amounts of paper... While this is just starting to get a little OT, there is another option - but it requires a little change in mindset and work habits. Instead of blindly faxing, consider setting up a PC with a decent ADF scanner. Chances are that the document being faxed is going to either be mailed as well, or just filed. It could also be a standard document that you fax to many people. The PC could drop the document as a PDF, multipage TIF, or whatever to a shared folder. The user could then email the document image, use the PC fax software (like Hylafax), or just archive the document for future reference. The old paper copy can go into deep archives (sometimes even offsite - which may be a good thing from a records keeping aspect.) Frankly, I hate filing lots of paper. Chances are that I am going to have to get the damn thing copied for someone, the paper gets lost, etc. If it's electronic, I can even look at it from home or on the road. If I'm in a meeting and someone starts questioning the details of a contract, I can pull the thing up and resolve the question instantly. All my files are available to me or other people I delegate authority to access, whenever and wherever needed. There was a big push for paperless offices, which for the most part failed. Partly, disk was Very expensive, along with scanners, special HSM software, etc. It's a LOT more affordable and practical today. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk and fax over ip - concept
Hi, -Original Message- What I would do i this situation is work out a fax -- email gateway. Best case this could be done entirely with software on the asterisk box, worst case a faxmodem hairpinned into an fxs card using hylafax. Why exactly would hylafax be a worst case solution only, why would you tink that that the Asterisk solution is better at all? Not so much a hylafax issue, but in order for my software maintenance requirements and management simplicity I like to keep as much as possible in one app. Integration with asterisk would simply mean less applications running on my systems to worry about. Very nice to have in case of large number of boxes deployed. Instead of a fax machine, the people could have a scanner Hmpf... I've always found that to be a very bad replacement for an analog fax, at least as soon as you have to deal with more than 1 page. Plain old analog fax machines are a very well designed devices... ok, for receiving faxes some unified messaging or e-mail attachment is fine, on that part I can agree. True enough. Florian ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
