RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with word on marriage certificate for Charles Costa (pimental) and Violet Vasconcel(l)os
Thanks Cheri and Altino for responding so quickly. I think it might be Moranha or Morenha because the second vowel looks like other middle of the word "a"s. Maybe a misspelling of Morenha as an alcunha. There are some Pereira Moranhas that are listed as arriving in Hawai'i. Maybe someone else has an idea. This side of my family, Jose da Costa (Pimental) and his wife have given me quite a headache. Thanks again, Keith -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with word on marriage certificate for Charles Costa (pimental) and Violet Vasconcel(l)os
Keith, I think it could be Moz something, only because the R looks different in Pereira. Hope someone else can chime in. Cheri - Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel
Judi, thank you for sharing the information. I'm getting help with Ancestry. My grandmother went under the name Nicolina Moniz Couto, but her birth record shows Furtado born in 1891 in Nordestinho. Her father Francisco Moniz Furtado Jr.from Nordestinho, her mother Maria da Luz Franco from Mosteiros. Further back, Francisco Moniz Furtado (Couto) (Sr) from Nordestinho and Anna Jacinta Pimentel, Joao Luz Franco de Medeiros and Rosa Pacheco. Couto and Furtado appear to be one and the same person. Most are from Nordestinho. Having trouble reading older script & handwriting.Nancy From: Judi Phillips To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, January 3, 2012 10:28:04 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel Hi Nancy, I have Furtado, Moniz, Carvalho, Cabral and Pimentel all in Nordestinho. My tree on Ancestry is private, but you can see it at: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/2226640/family?cfpid=1746640013. Let me know if you find anything. Judi Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:32:15 -0800 From: nch...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel To: azores@googlegroups.com CC: nch...@sbcglobal.net Is anyone researching the village of Nordestinho on Sao Miguel. I was there 5 years ago and family name Couto is in the church cemetery. Last names, Furtado, Couto, Monis or Moniz, Cabral, Franco, de Medeiros, Pimentel, Raposo ? All in the 1800's. Grandmother settled in New Bedford/Fall River early 1900's. Nancy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel
Hello Nancy, my grandmother went under the name Nicolina Moniz Couto, born 1891 in Nordestinho. She came to New Bedford about 1907. Her birth record shows her father as Francisco Moniz Furtado Jr. (not Couto) from Nordestinho, for her mother it shows Maria da Luz (Franco) from Mosteiros, Sao Miguel. Further back, Francisco Moniz Furtado (Sr) and Anna Jacinta Pimentel, also Joao Luz Franco de Medeiros and Rosa Pacheco.Going back to her parents marriage records, it shows Couto, not Furtado.Mosteiros is on the other side of the island. I'm having trouble reading the old script in terrible handwriting. Nancy From: Nancy Couto To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, January 3, 2012 7:43:26 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel Hi Nancy, My Coutos are mostly from Arrifes. Those who came to the U.S. settled in New Bedford or Fall River. Do you know the full name of the grandmother who settled in New Bedford/Fall River? We probably don't have a connection, since we're talking about different sides of the island. But it's worth a try. Nancy On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Nancy Hoopes wrote: Is anyone researching the village of Nordestinho on Sao Miguel. I was there 5 years ago and family name Couto is in the church cemetery. Last names, Furtado, Couto, Monis or Moniz, Cabral, Franco, de Medeiros, Pimentel, Raposo ? All in the 1800's. Grandmother settled in New Bedford/Fall River early 1900's. Nancy > > -- >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when >they arrive. >For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >(vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >that >says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa & Frank Smith
Kim, Do you have this? Is this them? Applying for a Passport for a trip back to from Azores to US for embarking and landing. Frank Smith July 3, 1901, consulate, Sao Miguel. Travelling with wife Rosa Smith, children: Annie Smith b. 9/26/1884, Rosa Smith b. Jan 18, 1889, Mary Smith b. 8/3/1895, Agnes Smith b. 7/27/1895. All b. San Rafael CA. It says Frank was born in Sao Jorge Apr. 28, 1856, came to US on the Schooner Galena from Sao Jorge June 19, 1874 and he has resided in San Rafael for 26 years, 1874-1900. He was naturalized Aug. 1, 1881, Superior Court, San Rafael CA. He is a dairyman. They left the US Sep 12, 1900, landed in Sao Jorge Sep 24, 1900 and resided in Sao Jorge since Sep 24, 1900. He is temporarily residing in Sao Miguel for 30 days awating this Passport. Signed July 2, 1901 Consulate in Sao Miguel. I can send you a copy in the mail. In the meantime, I will try and find their ship's manifest on the way back and maybe to the Passportes from Sao Miguel which will give you her birth name. "E" -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Da Silva family on Sao Jorge Island
Kim, What was your great grandmother's name who came from Sao Jorge? Do you have her Portuguese name or her sister Rosa's maiden name? I will check ship's manifest for you if you can give me name and approximate year of birth. "E" I just recently found my great grandmothers sister Rosa Smith in San Rafael in Marin County. Her husband is Frank Smith (portuguese last name Da Sodre, De Sodre or Sodre) from Sao Jorge. So now after 5 years of researching I have finally found what island my great grandmothers family is from Sao Jorge. Now I just need to figure how to find the village and frequisia. I found some information that they came into Rhode Island but I do not know were to look for that information. So I can find what last name they decided to use coming into the US -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Da Silva family on Sao Jorge Island
Hi Robin, What caught my eye in your post is Sao Jorge and San Rafael. I just recently found my great grandmothers sister Rosa Smith in San Rafael in Marin County. Her husband is Frank Smith (portuguese last name Da Sodre, De Sodre or Sodre) from Sao Jorge. So now after 5 years of researching I have finally found what island my great grandmothers family is from Sao Jorge. Now I just need to figure how to find the village and frequisia. I found some information that they came into Rhode Island but I do not know were to look for that information. So I can find what last name they decided to use coming into the U.S. Rosa & Frank Smith daughter Maria married Manuel T. Freitas in 1896 in Marin County I think. The had alot of children. I need to order the microfilm and look for the marriage certificate. Thank You, Kim Rowe Jenkins From: Robin Lebo To: "azores@googlegroups.com" Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Da Silva family on Sao Jorge Island Adair, This might be a cousin link somehow. I wish my grandmother had let us meet the family and maybe this would really not be as tough in trying to find info. The Cenus records have my great grandparents in the town of San Joaquin in 1920 and 1930. They have my great grandmother's name spelled wrong. They have my great grandfather and my grandfather's name as Geo Silva. My g uncle is listed as Willie Silva. Other names are spelled incorrect at that time as well. My mother Evelyn Catherine Silva was born around 1940 in the Manteca area. She tells me her grandparents lived out in Merced county, but not specifically where. They are buried outside of Escalon. Her father's birth records are from San Rafael. Her father was a topper for one of the lumber companies when she was a child. Do you have any family that worked in the lumber industry? I do know that the Silva side of our family would have an annual reunion in Gustine every summer. I never attended it though. I will go through some of my pictures and see if any have Borba for a name. I use Archives.com, so I have the records I have found attached to the person in my tree it goes to. What sites have you used to get information from Sao Jorge? I use a translator on my phone to translate for me. My husband thinks I am crazy to be searching, but I am determined to find the line. Robin Lebo On Dec 31, 2011, at 15:54, Adair Borba wrote: > Robin, > > I have been trying for some time to connect my Great Grandmother(Jennie > Solomon Silva) to her family. > > She was born in 1856(Sao Jorge), arrived in 1869 to Rhode Island, she married > in 1875 Manuel Ignacio Borba in Rhode Island. They migrated to Northern > California and settled in Sebastopol. > > Joseph(Jose) Solomon 1871 may be her father...Manuel Siva Solomon was her > brother, born in 1851 in Sao Jorge. I believe her brother was in California > or crossed country with them. > > I have a good handle on her children and where they settled, but have not > been able to solidly connect what happened to her brother/family, or trace > her Mother. > > Adair Borba > > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:42 PM, PearlCat 500 wrote: > >> Is there anyone working on family history for Sao Jorge? I am from >> the Silva line out of Calhetta. >> Looking for info on g g grandparents, ggrandparents' siblings, etc. >> have posted before. I use Tribalpages. My great grand father was Jorge >> Da Silva, his wife was Arminda Aurora Lui( z or s). George came to >> America in 1898, Arminda came in 1906. I have George's immigration >> papers and the release from the King. I have their marriage paper. I >> have info on all their children. One person helped me find the ship >> they came in on in 1906. But I am stuck going backwards since the rest >> of the info is in Sao Jorge. >> >> When George came in 1898 he had family with him. There were two. The >> others got off in Brazil. There is family in Mass as well. Iam working >> on that also. >> >> Arminda had lived on Terciera prior to Sao Jorge. Her mother had died >> on her family's boat. She was taken to Sao Jorge to be raised by >> family since her father was a ships Capt. >> >> I have some names that were listed on Calif death certificates. On >> George's the name Neves was his mothers. >> On Arminda's the name Diaz was on hers. >> >> Thanks for your help, >> Robin L >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >> that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirma
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Simao Lopes da Costa - Graciosa?
My surname is "Simoes", not Simao. No relationship; my paternal surname comes from Aveiro, Central Western Portugal. JS Lopes De: ""E" Sharp" Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Terça-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2012 21:32 Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Simao Lopes da Costa - Graciosa? Joao, I am researching a Simao Lopes Da Costa and Felicia de Jesus. Felicia was b. abt. 1854. He must have died before 1903 as she is listed as a widow on the following ship's reacord. I think they are from Graciosa but I am not sure. SS Patria sailing from Terceira arriving New Bedford May 9, 1903. Felicia do Coracao de Jesus, 49, widow, last residence Terceira, Azores, going to Taunton MA to son in law Jose Ferreira da Costa, 12 Howard St., Taunton MA. Travelling with daughters Maria da Conceicao L. Costa 25 and Gertrudes Augusta L. Costa 17. Any relation to you or anyone else on the list? I am not sure if she is same person as Felicia de Jesus Rebelo who died in Taunton MA area? in 1920 who might have remarried in the US. "E" " My family carries on "Simoes Lopes" for eight generations" -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for books at a library near you
Thanks for reposting this, Cheri. Let me add that if none of the libraries holding a book you wish to check out is conveniently located, look into borrowing it via Inter Library Loan; I even got to borrow the complete "Annals of the Dabney Family of Faial" that way several years ago (don't know whether they still let it out, though)! Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Simao Lopes da Costa - Graciosa?
Joao, I am researching a Simao Lopes Da Costa and Felicia de Jesus. Felicia was b. abt. 1854. He must have died before 1903 as she is listed as a widow on the following ship's reacord. I think they are from Graciosa but I am not sure. SS Patria sailing from Terceira arriving New Bedford May 9, 1903. Felicia do Coracao de Jesus, 49, widow, last residence Terceira, Azores, going to Taunton MA to son in law Jose Ferreira da Costa, 12 Howard St., Taunton MA. Travelling with daughters Maria da Conceicao L. Costa 25 and Gertrudes Augusta L. Costa 17. Any relation to you or anyone else on the list? I am not sure if she is same person as Felicia de Jesus Rebelo who died in Taunton MA area? in 1920 who might have remarried in the US. "E" " My family carries on "Simoes Lopes" for eight generations" -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What Happened to FURTADO'S in Fall River, Massachusetts?
Hi Pat, Mr Furtado decided to retire and since no one in the family wanted to continue running the shop, it closed this past year. We almost always bought from them when we lived in Rhode Island. It's to bad they closed, but I suppose the younger generations see thing in a different light. Emil Emil Silveira Currently Researching: Names and Places; Avila, Horta, Angustias, Faial Silveira, Horta, Sao Salvador, Faial Leal, Horta, Angustias, Faial Vargas, Horta, Almoxarife, Faial - Original Message - From: Pat McCoy To: azores Cc: Pat McCoy Sent: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:14:30 - (UTC) Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] What Happened to FURTADO'S in Fall River, Massachusetts? A few months ago, there used to be a website for FURTADO'S Chouricos and Linguica in Fall River, Massachusetts at the same street address where my friend's grandparents used to live. Now the website is gone and the closest type of website I can find for Chouricos and Lingquica in Fall River, Massachusetts is a place called MELLO'S. Does anyone know what has happened? Thanks! Pat McCoy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues Naming Customs - Can Someone Help Me Understand?
Although chaotic, this system sometimes can be helpful. For example, if we find a girl "Maria de Sousa" daighter of Manuel Gomes and Maria Soares, we can expect that some of the grandparents were "Sousa", and very frequently we will find that one of the grandmothers was a Maria de Sousa. If we find a rare combination of a rare surname with a rare name, we can deduce that these people were relatives, linked by some common ancestor. When I researched in Sao Roque, Pico, I found many coeval Apolonia Dias Pereira, and all were cousins or close relatives - all descendants of an older Apolonia Dias Pereira. Joao S.Lopes De: ""E" Sharp" Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Terça-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2012 14:44 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues Naming Customs - Can Someone Help Me Understand? Don't try to understand it. They took any name they wanted. Mother's last name, name of saint, father's last name, grandfather's last name, grandmother's last name, ...will drive you crazy if you try to understand it. My family named 4 daughter's with the first name, Maria. These siblings had 5 different surnames, saint's names, etc. "E" Not understanding the Portuguese naming customs is creating some >confusion for me when attempting to research the various branches of >one family. Could someone help clarify how Ermelinda and Maria were >named so differently even though they are sisters? > >Thanks! > >Pat McCoy > >-- >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when >they arrive. >For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >(vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues Naming Customs - Can Someone Help Me Understand?
After Republican times, surnamings was progressively standardized, usually maternal+paternal surnames or only paternal. Sometimes theses surnames could retain two or more names. My family carries on "Simoes Lopes" for eight generations. Before 1800's there was no standard, so children could reveive any paternal, maternal or even grandparents's surnames. Sometimes religious names were added and became inherited as surnames. A man named Joao Batista da Silva after John Baptist could pass "Batista da Silva" to their children, or even use this second name as surname, originating children with Batista surname. Joao S.Lopes De: Pat McCoy Para: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Pat McCoy Enviadas: Terça-feira, 3 de Janeiro de 2012 15:05 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues Naming Customs - Can Someone Help Me Understand? WOW! How is it possible to track down who is who when researching? Pat McCoy = On 1/3/12, "E" Sharp wrote: > Don't try to understand it. They took any name they wanted. Mother's last > name, name of saint, father's last name, grandfather's last name, > grandmother's last name, ...will drive you crazy if you try to > understand it. My family named 4 daughter's with the first name, Maria. > These siblings had 5 different surnames, saint's names, etc. > > "E" > > Not understanding the Portuguese naming customs is creating some >> confusion for me when attempting to research the various branches of >> one family. Could someone help clarify how Ermelinda and Maria were >> named so differently even though they are sisters? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Pat McCoy >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues Naming Customs - Can Someone Help Me Understand?
Thanks, Cheri. Given the "brick walls" that I'm working to knock down, it's just a challenge trying to figure who is related to who while searching for great-grandparents, great-great-grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. Pat McCoy = On 1/3/12, Cheri Mello wrote: > Yes Pat. You'll get used to it. Computer programs help you organize it > all. To see a how people research, read my article on the Azores GenWeb > here: > http://goo.gl/zVT4r > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Holiday Sale through 11:59pm Dec. 31
The sale has now been extended through Sat, Jan. 7th at 11:59pm CST. Cheri On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > *Watching American Theatrical performances at its best – Three Stooges > Marathon* > > * * > > *Rick* > > * * > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * > > * * > > *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada > Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores* > > * * > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Cheri Mello > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:40 PM > *To:* Azores Genealogy > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Holiday Sale through > 11:59pm Dec. 31 > > ** ** > > Just a reminder that the sale ends on Saturday, Dec. 31st at 11:59 pm > CST. But I'm disappearing after 7 pm CST and won't be by a computer. > Please order before then, as I won't be able to help you and I'm not sure > what Rick is up to on New Year's Eve. > > Thanks, > Cheri Mello & Rick Pimentel > FTDNA Administrators > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:* > *** > > Just a reminder about the DNA sale. There are 11 days left to order. > Ordering information below. > > > > Cheri Mello & Rick Pimentel > > Azores DNA Project Admins > > *Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having their holiday sale until the end of > the year! It is for both NEW orders as well as UPGRADES (existing > customers). > > NEW KITS* > > > > Current Group Price > > *SALE PRICE* > > Y-DNA 37 > > $149 > > *$119* > > Y-DNA 67 > > $239 > > *$199* > > mtFullSequence > > $299 > > *$239* > > SuperDNA (Y-DNA67 and FMS) > > $518 > > *$438* > > Family Finder > > $289 > > *$199* > > Family Finder + mtPlus > > $438 > > *$318* > > Family Finder + FMS > > $559 > > *$439* > > Family Finder+ Y-DNA37 > > $438 > > *$318* > > *Upgrades* > > > > > > 12-25 Marker > > $49 > > *$35* > > 12-37 Marker > > $99 > > *$69* > > 12-67 Marker > > $189 > > *$148* > > 25-37 Marker > > $49 > > *$35* > > 25-67 Marker > > $148 > > *$114* > > 37-67 Marker > > $99 > > *$79* > > Family Finder > > $289 > > *$199* > > mtHVR1toMega > > $269 > > *$229* > > mtHVR2toMega > > $239 > > *$209* > > ALL ORDERS MUST BE PLACED AND PAID FOR BY *MIDNIGHT CST DECEMBER 31st* * > 2011 *TO RECEIVE THE SALE PRICES. THIS PROMOTION IS NOT VALID IN > CONJUNCTION WITH ANY OTHER PROMOTIONS OR COUPONS. > > NEW ORDERS: http://goo.gl/4xOr2 > > Existing customers (upgrades): Log into your DNA page. > > Want to order for non-Azores? Contact Cheri and she'll get you into a > project. > > Questions? Just email me or Rick P. > > Cheri Mello & Rick Pimentel > > FTDNA Adminstrators, Azores DNA Project > > > > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues Naming Customs - Can Someone Help Me Understand?
Yes Pat. You'll get used to it. Computer programs help you organize it all. To see a how people research, read my article on the Azores GenWeb here: http://goo.gl/zVT4r Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Da Silva family on Sao Jorge Island
Adair, This might be a cousin link somehow. I wish my grandmother had let us meet the family and maybe this would really not be as tough in trying to find info. The Cenus records have my great grandparents in the town of San Joaquin in 1920 and 1930. They have my great grandmother's name spelled wrong. They have my great grandfather and my grandfather's name as Geo Silva. My g uncle is listed as Willie Silva. Other names are spelled incorrect at that time as well. My mother Evelyn Catherine Silva was born around 1940 in the Manteca area. She tells me her grandparents lived out in Merced county, but not specifically where. They are buried outside of Escalon. Her father's birth records are from San Rafael. Her father was a topper for one of the lumber companies when she was a child. Do you have any family that worked in the lumber industry? I do know that the Silva side of our family would have an annual reunion in Gustine every summer. I never attended it though. I will go through some of my pictures and see if any have Borba for a name. I use Archives.com, so I have the records I have found attached to the person in my tree it goes to. What sites have you used to get information from Sao Jorge? I use a translator on my phone to translate for me. My husband thinks I am crazy to be searching, but I am determined to find the line. Robin Lebo On Dec 31, 2011, at 15:54, Adair Borba wrote: > Robin, > > I have been trying for some time to connect my Great Grandmother(Jennie > Solomon Silva) to her family. > > She was born in 1856(Sao Jorge), arrived in 1869 to Rhode Island, she married > in 1875 Manuel Ignacio Borba in Rhode Island. They migrated to Northern > California and settled in Sebastopol. > > Joseph(Jose) Solomon 1871 may be her father...Manuel Siva Solomon was her > brother, born in 1851 in Sao Jorge. I believe her brother was in California > or crossed country with them. > > I have a good handle on her children and where they settled, but have not > been able to solidly connect what happened to her brother/family, or trace > her Mother. > > Adair Borba > > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:42 PM, PearlCat 500 wrote: > >> Is there anyone working on family history for Sao Jorge? I am from >> the Silva line out of Calhetta. >> Looking for info on g g grandparents, ggrandparents' siblings, etc. >> have posted before. I use Tribalpages. My great grand father was Jorge >> Da Silva, his wife was Arminda Aurora Lui( z or s). George came to >> America in 1898, Arminda came in 1906. I have George's immigration >> papers and the release from the King. I have their marriage paper. I >> have info on all their children. One person helped me find the ship >> they came in on in 1906. But I am stuck going backwards since the rest >> of the info is in Sao Jorge. >> >> When George came in 1898 he had family with him. There were two. The >> others got off in Brazil. There is family in Mass as well. Iam working >> on that also. >> >> Arminda had lived on Terciera prior to Sao Jorge. Her mother had died >> on her family's boat. She was taken to Sao Jorge to be raised by >> family since her father was a ships Capt. >> >> I have some names that were listed on Calif death certificates. On >> George's the name Neves was his mothers. >> On Arminda's the name Diaz was on hers. >> >> Thanks for your help, >> Robin L >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >> that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues Naming Customs - Can Someone Help Me Understand?
WOW! How is it possible to track down who is who when researching? Pat McCoy = On 1/3/12, "E" Sharp wrote: > Don't try to understand it. They took any name they wanted. Mother's last > name, name of saint, father's last name, grandfather's last name, > grandmother's last name, ...will drive you crazy if you try to > understand it. My family named 4 daughter's with the first name, Maria. > These siblings had 5 different surnames, saint's names, etc. > > "E" > > Not understanding the Portuguese naming customs is creating some >> confusion for me when attempting to research the various branches of >> one family. Could someone help clarify how Ermelinda and Maria were >> named so differently even though they are sisters? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Pat McCoy >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel
Hi Nancy, I have Furtado, Moniz, Carvalho, Cabral and Pimentel all in Nordestinho. My tree on Ancestry is private, but you can see it at: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/2226640/family?cfpid=1746640013. Let me know if you find anything. Judi Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:32:15 -0800 From: nch...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel To: azores@googlegroups.com CC: nch...@sbcglobal.net Is anyone researching the village of Nordestinho on Sao Miguel. I was there 5 years ago and family name Couto is in the church cemetery. Last names, Furtado, Couto, Monis or Moniz, Cabral, Franco, de Medeiros, Pimentel, Raposo ? All in the 1800's. Grandmother settled in New Bedford/Fall River early 1900's. Nancy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues Naming Customs - Can Someone Help Me Understand?
Don't try to understand it. They took any name they wanted. Mother's last name, name of saint, father's last name, grandfather's last name, grandmother's last name, ...will drive you crazy if you try to understand it. My family named 4 daughter's with the first name, Maria. These siblings had 5 different surnames, saint's names, etc. "E" Not understanding the Portuguese naming customs is creating some > confusion for me when attempting to research the various branches of > one family. Could someone help clarify how Ermelinda and Maria were > named so differently even though they are sisters? > > Thanks! > > Pat McCoy > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel
Hi Nancy, My Coutos are mostly from Arrifes. Those who came to the U.S. settled in New Bedford or Fall River. Do you know the full name of the grandmother who settled in New Bedford/Fall River? We probably don't have a connection, since we're talking about different sides of the island. But it's worth a try. Nancy On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Nancy Hoopes wrote: > Is anyone researching the village of Nordestinho on Sao Miguel. I was > there 5 years ago and family name Couto is in the church cemetery. Last > names, Furtado, Couto, Monis or Moniz, Cabral, Franco, de Medeiros, > Pimentel, Raposo ? All in the 1800's. Grandmother settled in New > Bedford/Fall River early 1900's. Nancy > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues Naming Customs - Can Someone Help Me Understand?
I've been researching the Azorean roots of a friend of mine and have been able to trace his family tree back to his grandmother, Ermelinda CORREIRO (NUNES) and, recently, to his great-grandparents, Jose' CORREIRO and Rosa de Jesus. I've just recently learned that Jose' CORREIRO and Rosa de Jesus had another daughter, Maria do Espirito Santo (FURTADO). Not understanding the Portuguese naming customs is creating some confusion for me when attempting to research the various branches of one family. Could someone help clarify how Ermelinda and Maria were named so differently even though they are sisters? Thanks! Pat McCoy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] What Happened to FURTADO'S in Fall River, Massachusetts?
A few months ago, there used to be a website for FURTADO'S Chouricos and Linguica in Fall River, Massachusetts at the same street address where my friend's grandparents used to live. Now the website is gone and the closest type of website I can find for Chouricos and Lingquica in Fall River, Massachusetts is a place called MELLO'S. Does anyone know what has happened? Thanks! Pat McCoy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
