[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

['Jeremy G. B-C: Researching Sao Jorge' via Azores Genealogy]

My my my. 

Frankly I find it to be utterly pathetic that a group with similar purpose 
as another feels the need to rival the other.  This shoud be a place where 
we learn of developments and get help, not here of someones sad little 
spat.  I may speak only for myself, but I certainly do not enjoy this 
garbage ending up in my inbox. I prefer picking up tips and interesting 
tidbits from wonderful groups of researchers and perspective cousins. Some 
wish to have their kits in one project, the other, both, or nether, and 
this is the prerogative solely of the tester. Nobody should be repeatedly 
hounded.  

It is truly regrettable that we all can't just focus more on our actual 
genealogies, rather than engaging in this soap opera. It's not about whose 
the best figurehead folks, it's our research.

Jeremy G. B-C

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Cheri Mello]

I became aware that Doug was removed as an admin from his project. I don't
know what's going on. I've been busy teaching and dealing with hospice and
the nursing home for the past couple of weeks.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Pam Santos]

Yes MtDNA is important. I had a gentleman who was searching for my ggg
grandmother for 25years!!! I emailed him and told him I believed it was my
ggg grandmother. Luckily we found a female couisn 94 from his side and mine
which came back as positive match.

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Steve Wright  wrote:

> Upsetting that he asking people to remove their kits from project!
>
> Colleen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
>
> Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on. I have been a
> little irritated by certain things on social media, too. Someone, not the
> "main" person, has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous
> information to newbies. I can't stand to watch.
>
> I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a
> man whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for
> generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As
> more people test I'm sure there will be more matches.
>
> Mary
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Steve Wright]

Upsetting that he asking people to remove their kits from project!

Colleen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
> 
> Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on.  I have been a 
> little irritated by certain things on social media, too.  Someone, not the 
> "main" person,  has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous 
> information to newbies. I can't stand to watch. 
> 
> I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a man 
> whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for 
> generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As 
> more people test I'm sure there will be more matches. 
> 
> Mary
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Mary Bordi]

Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on. I have been a
little irritated by certain things on social media, too. Someone, not the
"main" person, has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous
information to newbies. I can't stand to watch.

I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a
man whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for
generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As
more people test I'm sure there will be more matches.

Mary

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Thank you Colleen,  things like this damage the good relationships that 
genealogy does to bring us together.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Wright
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:52 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

 

Thank you for clarifying. I've seen the statements on social media and was a 
little irritated. This person seems to have a lot of hatred towards a certain 
person. I became very Leary after reading his comments.

 

Thank you for all you and the administrators due for the Azores project!

 

Colleen

Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa and Silva, Machado, 
Goncalves from Terceira and Pico

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 11, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel  
wrote:

I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with the 
National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I have read 
and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not do.

I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong and 
misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from legitimate 
projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies.

People are being told:  “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a massive 
increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really help. The 
only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact them. Nothing 
more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of understanding DNA. 

mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and live 
in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better Freguesia in 
the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal ancestor is greatly 
increased. I recently came across a project where the founding women from the 
Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to their female descendant’s 
mtDNA.   I can guarantee that a person who tests their full sequence mtDNA with 
the results of W3a2 with a female French Canadian line are a direct maternal 
line descendant of Marie Marguarite who was born in France around 1620. So to 
say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant.

I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his profile I 
saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and his results were 
he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information he told me his 
adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish decent. I told him of 
the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his first big clue in finding his 
biological mother. When I checked back with him several months later he had 
broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA and Autosomal DNA testing and yes 
Marie Marguarite was his maternal line.

People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done Family 
Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is well proven 
that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule out 
relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder will 
give you results that help  in breaking down walls.

Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)? 

FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not release 
information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching of results. 
Your contact information is only given to persons that you match.

FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media.

FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project.

FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at 
yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells.

FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in regard 
to privacy.

The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are 
directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to 
unlike the owner of this group on Facebook.

The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores DNA 
Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to provide 
personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to protect.

If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to 
change it so that just you have control over your information and not any 
unscrupulous person on social media.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project.

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Link to transcriptions

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/47BdVw

It goes over the key words for baptisms, marriages, and deaths for the 3
time periods. Then at the end is a link to the documents in both Portuguese
and English.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Sme  wrote:

> Is there a link to any transcriptions for baptismal, marriage, and death
> records?
>
> Thank you.
> S
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation "na ladeira"

[Mary Bordi]

I have hears of steep streets being named "Ladeira do _". Although
there is no street named it sounds like she died there, in the parish of
Santa Catherina, not at home where she lived on Caminho Novo. I am not a
native speaker so I may be reading something into this. I did compare to
other obits to see how they were written.

Mary

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:09 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> And I use Google: translate.google.com
>
> You can probably search for: online translators
>
> And try a few out and pick the one you like best.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *I used Bing Translator https://www.bing.com/translator/
>>  *
>>
>>
>>
>> *It translates “on the slope”*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Sme
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 4:50 PM
>> *To:* azores
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation "na ladeira"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889_item1/P3.html
>>
>> Right side bottom   Maria Delfina.  3rd line down,
>> meaning/translation of the words  "na ladeira"
>>
>> I can pretty much read the rest.   The translator couldn't translate it.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Also,  Does anyone else use a translation program on line and if so,
>> what would you recommend.   I've been using Babylon but it's a hit and miss.
>>
>> Suzanne
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Grandfather's Obit.

[Margaret Vicente]

Sorry, typo corrections.

Aos trese dias do mes de Junho do anno de mil oito centos sessenta e um
pela uma hora da tarde na casa de sua morada desta Freguesia da Ribeira
Seca da Ilha de Sao Jorge, Concelho da Vila da Calheta, Districto
Eclesiastico da mesma Vila e Diocese de Angra faleceu com todos os
Sacramentos permitidos aos enfermos Joao Faustino, olficial de calafate, de
idade de sessenta e seis anos, casado com Maria Delfina, Paroquianos desta
Freguesia, filho de Francisco Machado Vieira, e de Maria Antonia, nao se
sabem os nomes dos avos paternos, e maternos, nao fez testament, deixou
seis filhos.  E para constar lavrei este assento em duplicado, que assinei.
Era ut supra.  O Presbitero Antonio Cabral de Medeiros.



On the 13th day of the month of June of the year 1861 around 1 p.m. at his
residence in this Parish of Ribeira Seca of the Island of Sao Jorge,
Council of Vila da Calheta, Ecclesiastic District of the same Town and
Diocese of Angra, passed away with all the Sacraments permitted a dying
person Joao Faustino, caulker by trade, being 66 years of old, married to
Maria Delfina, Parishioners of this Parish, son of Francisco Machado
Vieira, and Maria Antonia, not known are the names of his paternal and
maternal grandparents, did not draw a will, left 6 children.  And to record
it I wrote this record in duplicate, which I signed.  Dated as above.  The
Presbyter (Padre) Antonio Cabral de Medeiros.

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Suzanne,
>
> Below you will have both the (current Portuguese form) followed by Eng.
> Be aware these records are not always uniform and change based on the
> circumstances of the time.
>
> Aos trese dias do mes de Junho do anno de mil oito centos sessenta e um
> pela uma hora da tarde na casa de sua morada desta Freguesia da Ribeira
> Seca da Ilha de Sao Jorge, Concelho da Vila da Calheta, Districto
> Eclesiastico da mesma Vila e Diocese de Angra faleceu com todos os
> Sacramentos permitidos aos enfermos Joao Faustino, olficial de calafate, de
> idade de sessenta e seis anos, casado com Maria Delfina, Paroquianos desta
> Freguesia, filho de Francisco Machado Vieira, e de Maria Antonia, nao se
> sabem os nomes dos avos paternos, e maternos, nao fez testament, deixou
> seis filhos.  E para constar lavrei este assent em duplicado, que assinei.
> Era ut supra.  O Presbitero Antonio Cabral de Medeiros.
>
>
>
> On the 13th day of the month of June of the year 1861 around 1 p.m. at
> his residence in this Parish of Ribeira Seca of the Island of Sao Jorge,
> Council of Vila da Calheta, Ecclesiastic District of the same Town and
> Diocese of Angra, passed away with all the Sacraments permitted a dying
> person Joao Faustino, caulher by trade, being 66 anos, married to Maria
> Delfina, Parishioners of this Parish, son of Francisco Machado Vieira, and
> Maria Antonia, not know are the names of his paternal and maternal
> grandparents, did not draw a will, left 6 children.  And to record I wrote
> this record in duplicate, which I signed.  Dated as above.  The Presbyter
> (Padre) Antonio Cabral de Medeiros.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Sme  wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>> RIBEIRASECA-O-1860-1869/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1860-1869_item1/P14.html
>>
>> 2nd from top  left side.  If someone can fill in the blanks or correct my
>> rough translation. I would appreciate it.
>>
>> Joao Faustino.   On 13th day of the month of June of the year 1861
>>       ___  of the afternoon, in his residence of this parish of
>> Ribeira Seca, of island of Sao Jorge, in the municipality of Calheta.
>>
>> ["Districto Eclesiastico"   what does this mean?]   of the same place,
>> Diocese of Angra, died [the next part through the wording "official of
>> ???]I can read his age, his wife, and through his parents.
>>
>> I don't know the translation of the last three lines.
>>
>> I know it's a lot, but I thank you in advance for helping me to translate
>> this.
>>
>> Suzanne
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Margaret M Vicente
>



-- 
Margaret M Vicente

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Grandfather's Obit.

[Margaret Vicente]

Suzanne,

Below you will have both the (current Portuguese form) followed by Eng.  Be
aware these records are not always uniform and change based on the
circumstances of the time.

Aos trese dias do mes de Junho do anno de mil oito centos sessenta e um
pela uma hora da tarde na casa de sua morada desta Freguesia da Ribeira
Seca da Ilha de Sao Jorge, Concelho da Vila da Calheta, Districto
Eclesiastico da mesma Vila e Diocese de Angra faleceu com todos os
Sacramentos permitidos aos enfermos Joao Faustino, olficial de calafate, de
idade de sessenta e seis anos, casado com Maria Delfina, Paroquianos desta
Freguesia, filho de Francisco Machado Vieira, e de Maria Antonia, nao se
sabem os nomes dos avos paternos, e maternos, nao fez testament, deixou
seis filhos.  E para constar lavrei este assent em duplicado, que assinei.
Era ut supra.  O Presbitero Antonio Cabral de Medeiros.



On the 13th day of the month of June of the year 1861 around 1 p.m. at his
residence in this Parish of Ribeira Seca of the Island of Sao Jorge,
Council of Vila da Calheta, Ecclesiastic District of the same Town and
Diocese of Angra, passed away with all the Sacraments permitted a dying
person Joao Faustino, caulher by trade, being 66 anos, married to Maria
Delfina, Parishioners of this Parish, son of Francisco Machado Vieira, and
Maria Antonia, not know are the names of his paternal and maternal
grandparents, did not draw a will, left 6 children.  And to record I wrote
this record in duplicate, which I signed.  Dated as above.  The Presbyter
(Padre) Antonio Cabral de Medeiros.



On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Sme  wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1860-1869/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1860-1869_item1/P14.html
>
> 2nd from top  left side.  If someone can fill in the blanks or correct my
> rough translation. I would appreciate it.
>
> Joao Faustino.   On 13th day of the month of June of the year 1861  
>    ___  of the afternoon, in his residence of this parish of
> Ribeira Seca, of island of Sao Jorge, in the municipality of Calheta.
>
> ["Districto Eclesiastico"   what does this mean?]   of the same place,
> Diocese of Angra, died [the next part through the wording "official of
> ???]I can read his age, his wife, and through his parents.
>
> I don't know the translation of the last three lines.
>
> I know it's a lot, but I thank you in advance for helping me to translate
> this.
>
> Suzanne
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>



-- 
Margaret M Vicente

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thank you for the explanation on the mtDNA, Richard. I always think that it
is a hard test to get a good trace but you've explained how it can really
help. I will pay more attention in the future!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with
> the National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I
> have read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not
> do.
>
> I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong
> and misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from
> legitimate projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies.
>
> People are being told:  “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a
> massive increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really
> help. The only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact
> them. Nothing more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of
> understanding DNA.
>
> mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and
> live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better
> Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal
> ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the
> founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to
> their female descendant’s mtDNA.   I can guarantee that a person who tests
> their full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French
> Canadian line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who
> was born in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant.
>
> I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his
> profile I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and
> his results were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information
> he told me his adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish
> decent. I told him of the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his
> first big clue in finding his biological mother. When I checked back with
> him several months later he had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA
> and Autosomal DNA testing and yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line.
>
> People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done
> Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is
> well proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule
> out relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder
> will give you results that help  in breaking down walls.
>
> Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)?
>
> FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not
> release information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching
> of results. Your contact information is only given to persons that you
> match.
>
> FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media.
>
> FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project.
>
> FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at
> yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells.
>
> FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in
> regard to privacy.
>
> The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are
> directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to
> unlike the owner of this group on Facebook.
>
> The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores
> DNA Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to
> provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to
> protect.
>
> If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to
> change it so that just you have control over your information and not any
> unscrupulous person on social media.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
> Richard Francis Pimentel
>
> Epping, NH
>
> Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project.
>
> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Steve Wright]

Thank you for clarifying. I've seen the statements on social media and was a 
little irritated. This person seems to have a lot of hatred towards a certain 
person. I became very Leary after reading his comments.

Thank you for all you and the administrators due for the Azores project!

Colleen
Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa and Silva, Machado, 
Goncalves from Terceira and Pico

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with the 
> National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I have 
> read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not do.
> 
> I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong and 
> misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from legitimate 
> projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies.
> 
> People are being told:  “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a massive 
> increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really help. The 
> only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact them. Nothing 
> more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of understanding DNA.
> 
> mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and 
> live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better 
> Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal 
> ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the 
> founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to their 
> female descendant’s mtDNA.   I can guarantee that a person who tests their 
> full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French Canadian 
> line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who was born 
> in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant.
> 
> I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his profile 
> I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and his results 
> were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information he told me his 
> adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish decent. I told him of 
> the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his first big clue in finding 
> his biological mother. When I checked back with him several months later he 
> had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA and Autosomal DNA testing and 
> yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line.
> 
> People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done 
> Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is well 
> proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule out 
> relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder will 
> give you results that help  in breaking down walls.
> 
> Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)?
> 
> FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not release 
> information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching of results. 
> Your contact information is only given to persons that you match.
> 
> FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media.
> 
> FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project.
> 
> FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at 
> yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells.
> 
> FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in 
> regard to privacy.
> 
> The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are 
> directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to 
> unlike the owner of this group on Facebook.
> 
> The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores DNA 
> Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to 
> provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to 
> protect.
> 
> If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to 
> change it so that just you have control over your information and not any 
> unscrupulous person on social media.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick
> Richard Francis Pimentel
> Epping, NH
> Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project.
> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
> Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Baptismal Maia 1753

[Margaret Vicente]

Mel, you got most of if and using your base here's what I'm reading.

Antonio, son of Joze (Jose) Muniz (Moniz) and Maria Benevides naturals of
this Parish Church of the Divine Holy Spirit in the place of Maia.
Was born 23 Feb 1753 and baptized 26 Feb 1753 where they are
parishioners.  Godparents Antonio da Costa, son of Antonio da Costa Sousa
and Margarida de Sousa daughter of Manoel (Manuel) Muniz (Moniz).

The godparents are really sketchy:  Andre(?) da Costa son of _
Costa Souza and Margarida da Souza, daughter of Manoel Moniz Pereyra
(Pereira).

You're welcome.
Margaret

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:10 PM, IslandRoutes 
wrote:

> I finally found my ancestor, Antonio Moniz's baptismal record, in 1753,
> Maia.  Unfortunately, it's so faded that it's hard to make out.
>
> Would someone give it a once over to see if I've got it right?  I'd
> appreciate it.  It's image 0040, the one in the upper left hand corner.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> RG-MAIA-B-1751-1762/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1751-1762_item1/P40.html
>
> This is what I came up with::
> Antonio, son of Joze Muniz and Maria Benevides of Maia
> born 23 Feb 1753; baptized 26 Feb 1753
>
> The godparents are really sketchy:  Andre(?) da Costa son of _
> Costa Souza and Margarida da Souza, daughter of Manoel Moniz
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Mel
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>



-- 
Margaret M Vicente

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help Baptismal Maia 1753

[JR]

Antonio, filho de Joze Moniz e Maria de Benevides nats. desta paroquia DES, 
Maia, nasceu Feb 23- 1753, bap- Feb 27(?), 1753, Pad- Ant.o da Costa filho 
familias de Ant.o de Souza Pacheco e Margarida de Souza filha familias de 
Manoel Muniz e [P]eyreira sic and spouse not recorded.

JR

On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 6:10:35 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote:
>
> I finally found my ancestor, Antonio Moniz's baptismal record, in 1753, 
> Maia.  Unfortunately, it's so faded that it's hard to make out.
>
> Would someone give it a once over to see if I've got it right?  I'd 
> appreciate it.  It's image 0040, the one in the upper left hand corner.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1751-1762/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1751-1762_item1/P40.html
>
> This is what I came up with::
> Antonio, son of Joze Muniz and Maria Benevides of Maia
> born 23 Feb 1753; baptized 26 Feb 1753
>
> The godparents are really sketchy:  Andre(?) da Costa son of _ 
> Costa Souza and Margarida da Souza, daughter of Manoel Moniz
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Mel
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with
the National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I
have read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not
do.

I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong and
misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from legitimate
projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies.

People are being told:  "mtDNA is still too useless until we get a massive
increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really help.
The only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact them.
Nothing more is necessary". This statement shows me a total lack of
understanding DNA. 

mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and
live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better
Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal
ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the
founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to
their female descendant's mtDNA.   I can guarantee that a person who tests
their full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French
Canadian line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who
was born in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant.

I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his
profile I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and his
results were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information he
told me his adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish decent.
I told him of the French Canadian W3a2's and that gave him his first big
clue in finding his biological mother. When I checked back with him several
months later he had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA and Autosomal
DNA testing and yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line.

People are also being told "The same thing goes for people who have done
Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project - zero". It is well
proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule out
relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder will
give you results that help  in breaking down walls.

Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)? 

FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not release
information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching of results.
Your contact information is only given to persons that you match.

FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media.

FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project.

FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at
yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells.

FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in
regard to privacy.

The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are
directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to
unlike the owner of this group on Facebook.

The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores
DNA Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to
provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to
protect.

If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to
change it so that just you have control over your information and not any
unscrupulous person on social media.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project.

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Keeping track of degree of cousinship

[Cheri Mello]

You have to drag it to the 1:00 position and let go.

I made a video on how to do this but accidentally exposed an email address.
So I need to reshoot unless it can be blurred out. Anyone know?

The next trees should be better. Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> I cant figure out for the lift of me how to add them I tried dragging and
> gave up. They should have left it alon IMHO
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Some people weren't coding it right, so FTDNA was getting the wrong
>> information back for statistical purposes. So now you have to link your
>> cousin to the tree that you've uploaded to FTDNA and then FTDNA tells you
>> the degree of relationship. But if your 2nd cousin is also your 3rd cousin
>> 1 remove and you link him that way, it won't say 2nd cousin. It's not
>> handling that very well. The trees are going through redesign again and it
>> will be based on Gedcom format.
>>
>> If you need help Judy, send me a private email with your phone and some
>> good days and times to call and I'll walk you through it. On the plus side,
>> you'll get to see the Parental Matching work!
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Judy Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Haven't used FTDNA much for a while but it used to have a field where
>>> you could list the actual degree of cousinship for each match.  That no
>>> longer seems to be there anymore.  Did they do away with it or is it
>>> somewhere else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Keeping track of degree of cousinship

[Pam Santos]

I cant figure out for the lift of me how to add them I tried dragging and
gave up. They should have left it alon IMHO

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Some people weren't coding it right, so FTDNA was getting the wrong
> information back for statistical purposes. So now you have to link your
> cousin to the tree that you've uploaded to FTDNA and then FTDNA tells you
> the degree of relationship. But if your 2nd cousin is also your 3rd cousin
> 1 remove and you link him that way, it won't say 2nd cousin. It's not
> handling that very well. The trees are going through redesign again and it
> will be based on Gedcom format.
>
> If you need help Judy, send me a private email with your phone and some
> good days and times to call and I'll walk you through it. On the plus side,
> you'll get to see the Parental Matching work!
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Judy Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Haven't used FTDNA much for a while but it used to have a field where you
>> could list the actual degree of cousinship for each match.  That no longer
>> seems to be there anymore.  Did they do away with it or is it somewhere
>> else?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Eric,
There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>
> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>
> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza
> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>
> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Eric
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Eric,
Paternal:
Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes (I think)

Maternal Francisco Jose de Azevedo & Mariana da Conceicao
Hope this helps!



Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>
> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>
> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza
> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>
> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Eric
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Keeping track of degree of cousinship

[Cheri Mello]

Some people weren't coding it right, so FTDNA was getting the wrong
information back for statistical purposes. So now you have to link your
cousin to the tree that you've uploaded to FTDNA and then FTDNA tells you
the degree of relationship. But if your 2nd cousin is also your 3rd cousin
1 remove and you link him that way, it won't say 2nd cousin. It's not
handling that very well. The trees are going through redesign again and it
will be based on Gedcom format.

If you need help Judy, send me a private email with your phone and some
good days and times to call and I'll walk you through it. On the plus side,
you'll get to see the Parental Matching work!

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Judy Thompson  wrote:

> Haven't used FTDNA much for a while but it used to have a field where you
> could list the actual degree of cousinship for each match.  That no longer
> seems to be there anymore.  Did they do away with it or is it somewhere
> else?
>
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Mary Bordi]

Could it be Martinho de Souza Machado?

Mary

On Friday, August 11, 2017, Eric Souza  wrote:

> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>
> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>
> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza
> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>
> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Eric
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation / meaning

[Cheri Mello]

I don't know where you are looking, but I'm guessing the church is named
Sao Tiago so the guy was a native (born there) and a parishioner (goes to
church there) of this parish of the apostle of Sao Tiago.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Sme  wrote:

> Hi everyone.  Sorry for so many postings.  I have one day a week I can
> work on the translations of my ancestors' documents.
>
> What does Parochial do Apostolo mean?
>
> He was a native and parishioner of this  "Parochial do Apostolo" Sao Tiago
> (St. James).
>
> thanks.
> Suzanne
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Keeping track of degree of cousinship

[Judy Thompson]

Haven't used FTDNA much for a while but it used to have a field where 
you could list the actual degree of cousinship for each match.  That no 
longer seems to be there anymore.  Did they do away with it or is it 
somewhere else?




--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores 
Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy]

[Sme]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1763-1787/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1763-1787_item1/P176.html

Bottom left (Manoel Machado husband of Rita Maria).

Can someone please translate this doc  from the  6th line down starting at
"Recebeothrough the end of the document.

Thank you.
Suzanne

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation "na ladeira"

[Cheri Mello]

And I use Google: translate.google.com

You can probably search for: online translators

And try a few out and pick the one you like best.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *I used Bing Translator https://www.bing.com/translator/
>  *
>
>
>
> *It translates “on the slope”*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sme
> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 4:50 PM
> *To:* azores
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation "na ladeira"
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889_item1/P3.html
>
> Right side bottom   Maria Delfina.  3rd line down,
> meaning/translation of the words  "na ladeira"
>
> I can pretty much read the rest.   The translator couldn't translate it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Also,  Does anyone else use a translation program on line and if so,  what
> would you recommend.   I've been using Babylon but it's a hit and miss.
>
> Suzanne
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Link to transcriptions

[Sme]

Is there a link to any transcriptions for baptismal, marriage, and death
records?

Thank you.
S

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Baptismal Maia 1753

[IslandRoutes]

I finally found my ancestor, Antonio Moniz's baptismal record, in 1753, 
Maia.  Unfortunately, it's so faded that it's hard to make out.

Would someone give it a once over to see if I've got it right?  I'd 
appreciate it.  It's image 0040, the one in the upper left hand corner.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1751-1762/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1751-1762_item1/P40.html

This is what I came up with::
Antonio, son of Joze Muniz and Maria Benevides of Maia
born 23 Feb 1753; baptized 26 Feb 1753

The godparents are really sketchy:  Andre(?) da Costa son of _ 
Costa Souza and Margarida da Souza, daughter of Manoel Moniz

Thanks for the help!
Mel

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Eric Souza]

I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html

16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo

Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza 
Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?

Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?

Thanks!

- Eric

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] translation / meaning

[Sme]

Hi everyone.  Sorry for so many postings.  I have one day a week I can work
on the translations of my ancestors' documents.

What does Parochial do Apostolo mean?

He was a native and parishioner of this  "Parochial do Apostolo" Sao Tiago
(St. James).

thanks.
Suzanne

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation "na ladeira"

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I used Bing Translator https://www.bing.com/translator/ 

 

It translates “on the slope”

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sme
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 4:50 PM
To: azores
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation "na ladeira"

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889_item1/P3.html

Right side bottom   Maria Delfina.  3rd line down,  meaning/translation of 
the words  "na ladeira" 

I can pretty much read the rest.   The translator couldn't translate it. 

Thanks.

Also,  Does anyone else use a translation program on line and if so,  what 
would you recommend.   I've been using Babylon but it's a hit and miss.

Suzanne

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation "na ladeira"

[Sme]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889_item1/P3.html

Right side bottom   Maria Delfina.  3rd line down,  meaning/translation
of the words  "na ladeira"

I can pretty much read the rest.   The translator couldn't translate it.

Thanks.

Also,  Does anyone else use a translation program on line and if so,  what
would you recommend.   I've been using Babylon but it's a hit and miss.

Suzanne

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Grandfather's Obit.

[Sme]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1860-1869/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1860-1869_item1/P14.html

2nd from top  left side.  If someone can fill in the blanks or correct my
rough translation. I would appreciate it.

Joao Faustino.   On 13th day of the month of June of the year 1861  
   ___  of the afternoon, in his residence of this parish of
Ribeira Seca, of island of Sao Jorge, in the municipality of Calheta.

["Districto Eclesiastico"   what does this mean?]   of the same place,
Diocese of Angra, died [the next part through the wording "official of
???]I can read his age, his wife, and through his parents.

I don't know the translation of the last three lines.

I know it's a lot, but I thank you in advance for helping me to translate
this.

Suzanne

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Povoacao, Sao Miguel- Help with paternal grandmother's name

[Joseph Mendonca]

No problem, thank you for looking.

On Aug 10, 2017 18:25, "Maria Lima"  wrote:

> Oops - sorry Joseph- I looked at maternal
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Margaret Vicente 
> wrote:
>
> Medeiros. Victoria (Vitoria) de Medeiros.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
> Maria: Top-left side side.
>
> I need some help with the paternal grandmother's name: Victoria de ?
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1856-1860/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1856-1860_item1/P154.html
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Joseph Mendonca
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A child "presented" to Izabel Martins

[Margaret Vicente]

Maria Elena,

Google also has the capability but I think I tested it and didn't like it.
It works by adding an image downloader extension to the browser.  Here's
the link for the image extension for Google or Firefox.

https://www.google.ca/search?site==hp=save+images+extension=save+images+ex_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l2j0i22i30k1l2.9398.16708.0.20467.14.14.0.0.0.0.105.1187.12j2.14.00...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.14.1185...0i131k1.hNgHZDeyvIs

Any time,
Margaret

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Maria Lima 
wrote:

> MARGARET;
>
> That is NEWS to me that one can open up to 50 records at a time.  I'm
> going to try it.  Yes, the only way I knew how to research (up to the
> moment when I read your method) is ONE BY ONE!  I use an IPad so I will try
> to download Firefox and see how it is done.  Maybe it can only be done on a
> computer- I'll find out.
>
> Then, I'm not sure how you open up 50.  At one time unless you click on
> them one by one (?).
>
> Thank you for sharing this. 
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Margaret Vicente 
> wrote:
>
> Maria Elena,
>
> It depends how you are doing your search. If you're going one by one it is
> a very slow process.  I use Firefox browser for my searches which enables
> me to open up to 50 records at at time speeding up the process
> exponentially.  If you are not doing that you should try it.  Besides that
> Part of my family ancestry is ingrained in Ponta Delgada.
>
> And, you are welcome!
>
> Take care.
> Margaret
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 7:54 AM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
>
>> Margaret and JR:
>>
>> What a treasure you've given me.  Saying "Thank You" doesn't begin to
>> express my excitement.
>>
>> Margaret, I read your email last night after "lights out".  I accompanied
>> my husband on a trip to Indiana and I get to spend 2 WHOLE days doing
>> family research.  YAY!  I'm not home so laundry or dust or cooking don't
>> call my name.  Yesterday I only found the Maria born in São José but
>> still felt rewarded for all the hours I spent looking for Antonia.
>>
>> I was certain that I would look for find Antonia today.  I almost  fell
>> out of bed when I saw you already found Antonia and "then some"!!  How on
>> earth did you find those records that fast?  I spent all day and came up
>> with one name!!
>>
>> JR- what a treasure you sent.  I've been reschearching for almost a year
>> to trace my husband's LIMA name and got as far back as some of the names
>> you sent me.
>>
>> Yesterday I decided to find as many husbands and wives of Manoel da
>> Costa's (and Izabel Martins') children.   You sent me that and more.
>>
>> What a reward after yesterday when I felt like all those hours and I only
>> got one name!!!  (Of course I did a happy dance when I found even that ONE
>> name.). 嵐
>>
>> Thank you- Thank You!!
>>
>>  Maria Elena
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Elizabeth Migliori 
>> wrote:
>>
>> she was given child because she was nursing and could feed the baby.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Maria Lima 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow!  Izabel had a daughter which they named Maria and was baptized
>>> April 1-then a few pages later I find ANOTHER child baptized 1 June (also
>>> named Maria) but her parents are Unknown.  It says she was "presented" to
>>> Izabel Martins, wife of Manoel da Costa.
>>>
>>> How do I record this second Maria who is not biological child of the
>>> couple? (Well, we don't know if she's the child of the father or some
>>> relative) when this child was given to her to raise, she already had 5 of
>>> her own and the youngest was two months old.  Weird situation but maybe
>>> someone has more insight.
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>>> SAOJOSE-B-1673-1687/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1673-1687_item1/P103.html
>>>
>>> Help?
>>>
>>> Maria Elena
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Margaret M Vicente
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A child "presented" to Izabel Martins

[Maria Lima]

MARGARET; 

That is NEWS to me that one can open up to 50 records at a time.  I'm going to 
try it.  Yes, the only way I knew how to research (up to the moment when I read 
your method) is ONE BY ONE!  I use an IPad so I will try to download Firefox 
and see how it is done.  Maybe it can only be done on a computer- I'll find 
out.  

Then, I'm not sure how you open up 50.  At one time unless you click on them 
one by one (?). 

Thank you for sharing this. 

Maria Elena 

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> Maria Elena,
> 
> It depends how you are doing your search. If you're going one by one it is a 
> very slow process.  I use Firefox browser for my searches which enables me to 
> open up to 50 records at at time speeding up the process exponentially.  If 
> you are not doing that you should try it.  Besides that Part of my family 
> ancestry is ingrained in Ponta Delgada.
> 
> And, you are welcome!
> 
> Take care.
> Margaret
> 
>  
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 7:54 AM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>> Margaret and JR:
>> 
>> What a treasure you've given me.  Saying "Thank You" doesn't begin to 
>> express my excitement.  
>> 
>> Margaret, I read your email last night after "lights out".  I accompanied my 
>> husband on a trip to Indiana and I get to spend 2 WHOLE days doing family 
>> research.  YAY!  I'm not home so laundry or dust or cooking don't call my 
>> name.  Yesterday I only found the Maria born in São José but still felt 
>> rewarded for all the hours I spent looking for Antonia.   
>> 
>> I was certain that I would look for find Antonia today.  I almost  fell out 
>> of bed when I saw you already found Antonia and "then some"!!  How on earth 
>> did you find those records that fast?  I spent all day and came up with one 
>> name!! 
>> 
>> JR- what a treasure you sent.  I've been reschearching for almost a year to 
>> trace my husband's LIMA name and got as far back as some of the names you 
>> sent me.  
>> 
>> Yesterday I decided to find as many husbands and wives of Manoel da Costa's 
>> (and Izabel Martins') children.   You sent me that and more.  
>> 
>> What a reward after yesterday when I felt like all those hours and I only 
>> got one name!!!  (Of course I did a happy dance when I found even that ONE 
>> name.). 嵐
>> 
>> Thank you- Thank You!!
>> 
>>  Maria Elena 
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Elizabeth Migliori  wrote:
>>> 
>>> she was given child because she was nursing and could feed the baby.  
>>> 
 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
 Wow!  Izabel had a daughter which they named Maria and was baptized April 
 1-then a few pages later I find ANOTHER child baptized 1 June (also named 
 Maria) but her parents are Unknown.  It says she was "presented" to Izabel 
 Martins, wife of Manoel da Costa.
 
 How do I record this second Maria who is not biological child of the 
 couple? (Well, we don't know if she's the child of the father or some 
 relative) when this child was given to her to raise, she already had 5 of 
 her own and the youngest was two months old.  Weird situation but maybe 
 someone has more insight. 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1673-1687/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1673-1687_item1/P103.html
 
 Help?
 
 Maria Elena 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "Azores Genealogy" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Margaret M Vicente
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at