RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Seeking Portuguese citizenship

[elaine sharp]

Lorraine,

 

If your dad was here for the WWI Draft Registration or WWII Draft Registration 
and his name was changed by then, try using that for proving his name change.  
Also, what about his U. S. citizenship records?  Most of the name changes were 
probably not legally changed.  

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translate record - Carolina

[elaine sharp]

Thank you, Cheri.  Well I spent several days and nights researching this record 
from 1864 (which would have made her 16) to  1840 (which would have made her 40 
years old) and I did not find a record for her and I am about cross-eyed now.  
Why is there no record?? I have no idea so I will try another posting and see 
if someone might recognize her parents.  As far as I know she only had this one 
child.  I guess it is possible there were others but I am mainly interested in 
the one whose records I do have.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translate record - Carolina

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Thank you Antonio.  Slowly but surely I am getting this family figured out.  
Guess I had the wrong book “expostas”  Now back on track.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel de Medeiros Raymundo Ginetes

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Thank you, John.  I am going to send you the record I have that lists
Valerio to your personal email address.  Hope that's OK.  Maybe there are 2
of them???

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] How would one pronounce Bixaxe in Portuguese

[elaine sharp]

Thank you all who responded.  I checked the marriage records for the island
in Croatia which are online at familysearch (easy to read.all you have to
look for is "interragato" and the name of the groom and his father and bride
and her father follow)  and I am pretty sure the Croatian spelling is
Baicich so I deduce the X must be the sh sound in Portuguese at that time. I
spent the last 2 days searching from the time my 4th great grandfather was
20 until he married in Portugal in 1805, I am going to check  the records
from the time he was 17 just to be sure , and no luck but I did find other
family records in the process so that was a plus.  The Portuguese marriage
record said she died in Trieste, Italy, but I thought they might have
married where he and I believe she were born.  I have not learned how to
maneuver the Trieste records to find her death record - not sure if they are
online and, of course, do not know the church.  Working on this.  The little
island the family came from has gone back and forth between Italy and
Croatia and after WWII it was returned to Croatia.  

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA and the Future of Genetic Genealogy

[elaine sharp]

Cheri and others,

 

Just received the FTDNA sale info.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lost in Candelaria, Sao Miguel -help only 2 days left

[elaine sharp]

Tanya,

Sorry to tell you this now but you would have been better off not trying to
drive there and hiring  a taxi to take you around - several listmembers know
of some good taxi drivers.  When we were there, our hotel was centrally
located and we could walk to the archives and almost everywhere else we
wanted to go.  We even took the bus there.  And trying to find a parking
space...well I won't comment on that one.  Hope you find what you
are looking for.  

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA mini Father's Day sale (though 11:59 pm CDT June 17)

[elaine sharp]

Cheri,

 

You have probably told us this a million times, but,  if my husband already did 
a Y-DNA does he have to do an actual test again for the Family Finder or will 
they use the previous sample??

 

Getting more confused as I get older or as my spouse likes to put it…what did I 
come from the garage to the kitchen for syndrome??

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA and the Future of Genetic Genealogy

[elaine sharp]

Thank you, Cheri, for keeping us informed of these genealogy treasures.  Since 
I need all the help I can get and maybe other listmembers do to, they are much 
appreciated.  I am so happy I went with FTDNA in all family tests, including 
one from Russia,  in light of the recent Ancestry revelations.  

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] travel/research in Lisbon

[elaine sharp]

Lorraine, 

 

There is a Military Museum, I think it is Museu Nacional Militar, in Lisbon
and you might go and ask there.  I did some research there on my Lisbon
family.  Don't know if you have been to Lisbon before; if not, take the Hop
On, Hop Off Bus first.  I believe we took the City Sightseeing one.  You
will need to check where you can catch them.

 

http://www.hop-on-hop-off-bus.com/Search.aspx?Keywords=lisbon

&_$ja=cgid:3254669717|tsid:36801|cid:84565997|lid:11939071556|nw:search|crid
:32281868837|dvc:c|adp:1t1&gclid=CIq24fm7ybwCFc1qfgodZxwAMg

 

Go all the way around one time to see where everything is.  Then go around
again and get on and off to see those things you want to take in.  If memory
serves me correctly, they have a ticket that is good for a 24 hr. period.
We took it about 1 in the afternoon so that was still good till 1 in the
afternoon the next day.  We also walked all over Lisbon; sometimes it seemed
like one end to the other for hours, we also took taxi's to get to the
churches my ancestors were baptized; married in and homes they lived in..
Luckily, I still have many cousins still living in Lisbon and they took us
to many other sites in/around Lisbon and the beautiful coastline.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Difference between Portuguese Linguica and Hawaiian Linguica

[elaine sharp]

Thank you Edward and Edgar. The article about the different ones and ratings
is great.   I am not sure what brand is at Sam's but I am going over there
today to buy some and I'll let you all know.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Working like my ancestors?

[elaine sharp]

This weekend we spent with our daughter and family and my son in law has as
a hobby a small vineyard.  We spent the weekend helping to harvest the
grapes.  I was very proud of my 80 year old husband in this effort.  We
helped cut them off the vines and he even let us stomp a few to see what it
was like to do this.  Lots of fun and a mess!!  I told him I guess this is
what some of my ancestors may have done way back when and he told me his
kids will be able to tell their kids the same thing about us.  

 

I am not sure what the up to date procedure is to stomping as we had to
leave; however, as I said before, it was lots of work and lots of fun.  I do
know he did say something about a wine press in a couple/few weeks???  Maybe
I will go back after he bottles them to partake of the fruit of my labor.  

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Roadshow - Shepardic Jews

[elaine sharp]

I have been watching this series and like it because it is about people like
us, not celebrities.  Nonetheless, this week they were in Austin, Texas and
the following website should be interesting to some of you.  Have any of you
whose DNA has been tested, tested as Shepardic Jew.  Read the following, you
will find it most interesting.  Scroll down and read about Denise Garza,
especially the 2nd paragraph about her.  

 

http://tracingthetree.wordpress.com/2013/10/15/genealogy-roadshow-austin/

 

Again, very interesting.

 

I think this set of shows has ended and I hope they renew it.  I think you
might be able to view the program online but not sure.  I watched it on PBS.


 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family

[elaine sharp]

Nancy,

 

Can you please tell me which of these came to the US and where they settled?
I have been trying to find them but it would be easier if I knew that they
came to the US.

 

"E"

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Nancy Martins
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:00 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Cc: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada
Azores-Martins Family

 

***UPDATE***

 

Heres some information I gathered from my grandma. 

My great-grandparents were Manuel Martins & Maria Evangelina Martins. Manuel
died around 1953 or so and Maria died before than. Manuel re-married and had
one child.

 

The children of Manuel Martins & Maria Evangelina:

Odete Martins-Not sure if she is still alive

Fernanda Martins-Resendes(Not sure if this is the correct last name). Has 3
daughters probably living in California. Names are Teresa, Paula &
Esmeralda. Joao Resendes is the dad. Again not sure if Resendes was the last
name

Jose Martins-Died

Mariano Martins-Died but his wife and children came to Massachusetts also
and had one son working with MCI(a telephone company) and he got in contact
with the family ages ago.

Norberto Martins-probably alive

 

>From the second marriage:

Julio Martins-probably still alive.

 

On a side note. My grandfather had a cousin living here in Massachusetts
that was Fillipino his name was Verba Martins and he had a daugther named
Maria Martins

 

Everyone hailed from Sao Jose-Ponta Delgada.

Again all this information was what my grandmother gave me today. Thank you
again for the help.

 

 

 

 


On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which
Ponta Delgada on which island)

Hi Everyone,

Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my
grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the
consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the
following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January
22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were 

Maria Evangelina Martins

Manuel Martins

any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thank you to Sherry Barnhurst and Elaine Sharp

[Elaine Sharp]

Lorraine,

 

Thank you so much for your kind words.  I am so happy you have found your
family members and are making your homeland trek.  You will not be
disappointed as it is so beautiful and Joao is a wonderful  person.  

 

Many people have helped me in the past and it is my way of passing it on as
I know you will too someday.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] http://portuguese-american-journal.com/historian-fatima-sequeira-dias-died-age-54-azores/

[Elaine Sharp]

>From the Portuguese-American Journal - Click on the above.  She apparently
did interesting research about Bensuade family.

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Windows 8 and computer crash

[Elaine Sharp]

I  cried for 4 hours solid when this happened to me a few years back.  I now 
run 2 backups and have the info on both my laptop and my mini.  My son was able 
to restore abt. 90% of my data.  Guess he couldn't stand to see his mom cry 
anymore.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:24 AM, George Pacheco  wrote:

> 
> George Pacheco
> 
> Windows 8 crashed my computer lost lots of data.
> Had a Computer Crash Lost lots of Data My back up didn't upload right the 
> only backup that worked was from it makes me so depressed lost over 3000 
> people from my database, i will have to enter alt least the ones i have 
> documents for. it is very depressing..
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Windows 8 and computer crash

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Nancy Jean

My nephew's wife is from a Cabral family from Santa Maria.  I will try to find 
out more.  Also my niece's new house in Pico is almost finished.

"E"

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On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:45 AM, nancy jean baptiste  
wrote:

> George,
> 
> I can send you the huge file behind my Catarina Cabral from Santa Maria that 
> goes back to Violante and Diogo and back beyond them a very long way! Do you 
> want it?
> 
> Sorry for your problemheartbreaking with all that you had!
> Nancy Jean Baptista
> 
> From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Windows 8 and computer crash
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:38:36 -0600
> 
> George I am sending you privately a GEDCOM of my Bretanha & Ponta Delgada 
> people.  My other files are from the Ribeira Grande Area if you need them I 
> would be more than happy to send them as well.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Rick
> 
>  
> 
> Richard Francis Pimentel
> 
> Spring, TX
> 
> Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
> 
>  
> 
> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
> Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
> 
>  
> 
> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> George Pacheco
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:24 AM
> To: Azores-Gen
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Windows 8 and computer crash
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> George Pacheco
>  
> Windows 8 crashed my computer lost lots of data.
> Had a Computer Crash Lost lots of Data My back up didn't upload right the 
> only backup that worked was from it makes me so depressed lost over 3000 
> people from my database, i will have to enter alt least the ones i have 
> documents for. it is very depressing..
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off-Topic Computer Mail Question

[Elaine Sharp]

 

Thank you all for your suggestions and I am working on them.  I did have my
husband install my printer to my mini and I was able to print it out from
there.  But I still want to figure out how to do this on my laptop.  I am
thinking of updating my laptop to from XP to  Windows 7 and Microsoft 10,
has anyone done this?  I think I can do this online.  If so, any problems
doing this?

 

Thank you.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA matches

[Elaine Sharp]

Cheri,

 

Thanks for the reply.  In checking the results, it lists in the 2nd column
Y-DNA 12 but I was under the impression she had ordered 37 so I am not sure
if anymore matches from her dad will be forthcoming although she states
there are more coming?  She did send to me and 2 others we connect to (she
is more DNA knowledgeable than I)  - "286 tests listed for our family name,
only three have result 15 for marker DYS392" - I have no idea what she is
talking about.  We did a 37 marker and the other McNeal person we matched so
closely did a 67 marker.  I have worked with this person on the McNeal
genealogy recently and we believe there were 3 or 4 brothers.  We can
identify 3 brothers, John, James and Henry.  My husband is from James, the
person with the 67 markers is from John and this new one is from Henry.  It
looks very promising that our research is correct.  I did send her an email
to clarify how many markers she ordered.  We are waiting for the next sale
to upgrade ours to a 67.  It has taken me 10 years to identify which McNeal
family my husband came from and a lot of it was hunches we have proved
correct...Wm. McNeal served in the same CSA company as our William McNeal
Jr.'s mother's father. They came from the same area. A couple of census
records for Jr. and his mother, a letter my mother in law wrote about the
little she knew about her father's family.And a few other bits and
pieces.  It was not helpful when our Jr's. marriage record said "the man has
no father." written by the bride's father.  

 

I still try to understand DNA but do not get into it too much as my aging
brain cannot absorb it all.  

 

Elaine

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Mary (Trombus) Leal

[Elaine Sharp]

Mike, 

 

I sent you some stuff from Ancestry.  Should not be a problem as you belong
to the group.  Here is the death info for her parents.  John S. Trombus and
Rosa F. (Andrade) Trombus.

 

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr

&GSln=TR&GSfn=r&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=6&GScntry=4&GSob=n&
GSsr=481&GRid=13202449&df=all&

 

Elaine

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Word List and Learn to Speak Portuguese

[Elaine Sharp]

Here are a couple of sites I have used in the past for help in translating
records and learning to speak Portuguese.  I also another great list of
words; however, I don't believe the site is still active but I shall keep
looking for it.  I used it years ago to help me with translations.  I did
take a Portuguese language class a few years ago. I only took one session
and it is evident I should have taken 3 or 4 more :-( but it was quite a
ways from my home to get to in the evening traffic.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Portuguese_Genealogical_Word_List

 

http://www.easyportuguese.com/

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] (da) Silva, George Faustino, Sao Jorge, Calheta and Luiz(s) from Terciera

[Elaine Sharp]

Robin,

 

Do you belong to Ancestry?  I don't want to duplicate what you already have.


 

There is quite on bit on Faustino da Silva surname coming from Sao Jorge.
There is a Manuel Faustino Silva, Antonio Faustino Silva, an Anna who is
coming to a Joao Faustino Silva all living in California.  One is a ship's
record, draft registration records, and Passport application records.  It
seems they were all born about the time of your George.  Could they be
siblings? Here is an example

 

US Passport Application:

 

Manuel Faustino Silva

b. 25 Nov 1880

bp: St. George, Azores

Residence:  Newman, Stanislaus Co., CA

Passport Issued Date:  19 May 1909

Spouse Name:  Margarita M. Silva

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Senior Citizens Expatriates Special - Visit the Azores

[Elaine Sharp]

Saudades
  dos Açores” program for seniors – Azores

 

Check it out here:

 

http://portuguese-american-journal.com/%E2%80%9Csaudades-dos-acores%E2%80%9D
-program-for-seniors-azores/

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Match in 12/25/37 same person

[Elaine Sharp]

This is not a Portuguese family member but a family member did a DNA study -
37.  He matched another person same surname (first time this has happened on
any DNA study we have done so far...same surname match.he matches as
follows12 - 1 exact match, 25 - 1 exact match, 37 - Genetic Distance 1,
this being the same person in each case.  What are the chances that this is
a close member of the family?  I am hoping you are going to say pretty good.
He matched several others...25 - 40 Genetic distance 2, 37 - 11 Genetic
distance 4.  I did email him and hope he will reply as he seems to be from
the same area as our family member came from.  Family is from
Scotland/Ireland.

 

Needs some encouragement from the experts...since I will never understand
this "stuff."  

 

"E"

PS:  Some of my family members are vacationing on Maui and today they went
to a "little whaling museum" per text message.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anyone subscribe to Newspaper Archives/Oakland-Hayward Newspaper 1991

[Elaine Sharp]

Thanks, Michelle, I am not sure they have these papers but here is the info.
Adeline would probably be in an Oakland or Hayward paper.  Joseph probably
the same as he was from that area.  Don't know why he died San Jose.

 

I am looking for Adeline Baptista who died in Alameda County July 27, 1991.
Her father Joseph S. Duarte who died San Jose, Santa Clara County Sept 27,
1971

 

Elaine

 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michelle
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 6:52 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anyone subscribe to Newspaper
Archives/Oakland-Hayward Newspaper 1991

 

Hello E,

 

Don't belong to Newspaper Archives any longer but am doing a trial
membership with GenealogyBank right now. They have tons of newspaper
archives (including obits) that might turn up the person your looking for.
If you want to give me their information I'd be happy to look for you. 

 

Regards,

Michelle

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: JOSEPH DUARTS OR DUARTE DOB 1885 AND WIFE MARY DOB 1891

[Elaine Sharp]

OK.  I believe I have found them in the 1920 lived on Moss Landing Road,
Washington, Alameda Co. CA and 1930 lived on Oakland-San Jose Hwy.
Washington, Alameda County CA  They both say Joseph was born in California
and Mary in Massachusetts.  Children listed are Alfred, Adeline, Joseph,
Leonard, Florence, Harry, Lorraine.  Still trying to find them in the 1910
census.  According to census they were married ca 1908.

Here are some birth records: mmn means mother's maiden name and on all of
these it is Mattos b. in Alameda Co.  So far haven't found Leonard's birth
record.

Alfred b. 10//6/1908 
Evelyn b. 10/1/1910 (could this be Adeline?)
Joe b. 4/19/ 1914
Florence mmn spelled Maltoes b. 10/8/1918
Harold R. b. 1/29/1924
Marie b. 2/8/1927 (Lorraine?)
Marie Annjessie b. 5/26/1930

Will keep searching.  You might want to order a birth record for Alfred or
Evelyn.  Others on this list more familiar with Alameda Co. records can help
guide you on this.  

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Crespim Family

[Elaine Sharp]

Steve,

I think this is where they are from - Reguengo Grande 
2530 Lourinhã Municipality, Portugal.  It is north of Lisbon.
So when you check on the mainland website look for Louinha, then Reguengo
Grande.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS245&q=where+is+reguengo+gr
ande+portugal&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0xd1f3561f4af0dcd:0x500ebbde490df50,Re
guengo+Grande,+Lourinh%C3%A3+Municipality,+Portugal&gl=us&ei=79P7TaTID47OiAK
EvamUBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ8gEwAA

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Crespim Family

[Elaine Sharp]

Steve,

Since you have Ancestry, you can look this up.

I think it is them - what do you think?  This census taker was definitely
NOT Portuguese!!

1910 US Census - 477 First Street, New Bedford, MA

Antone C. Cuxpinki or Cuspin* or Cuspinko 40 m. 18 yrs. B. Portugal to US
1906 Scrubber-cotton mill

Mary A. 36 b. Portugal 4 children born, 4 children living to US 1908

Francisco 17to US 1907
Americo 16 to US 1909
Mary 14 to US 1908
Adaline 11 to US 1909

All children b. Portugal

I think you found them in subsequent censuses?

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Crespim Family

[Elaine Sharp]

Steve,

Send me your personal email address and I will send you his Draft
Registration card (or do you subscribe to Ancestry?  On his WWI Draft
Registration he gives where he was born...guessing..Rigangiao(or Rigangias)
Lisbon, Portugal. So where he was born was a section of Lisbon.  On WWII, he
writes it as ReGuego Grade. Born March 9, 1895.

I think this is your man.

Americo C. Chrispim(sp) 13, sailed on the Romanic from St. Michael
10/14/1908 arriving Boston Oct. 20, 1908, leaving his grandfather Casimiro
G. Chrispim, Reguengo, Portugal (so now you have his grandfather's name)
going to New Bedford MA.  He is going to his father Antonio C. Chrispim, 66
Howland St., NB, he has a scar on his upper lip and forehead.  Where he is
born in difficult to read.  If you would like I can also send you this to
your personal email addy.

His father Antonio C. Crespim 36, sailing on Canopic from St. Michael, Jan
3, 1906, going to a friend Manuel Machado Silveira, 33 Jenndy(Jenny?) Lund
St. NB, it lists his last residence as Lisbon.  This manifest does not give
who he is leaving.

My family comes from and still lives in Lisbon, I can ask them if they know
where this place is.

Have to run errands.  Will check more later.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots?

[Elaine Sharp]

Lisa,

Just go to the Archives of this list and search Sephardic Jews and I think
it will answer your questions.  Also, google Azores Sephardic Jews.  I
believe there are many of us on this list who are also Catholic and more
than likely have Sephardic Jewish ancestry somewhere.  Proving it is another
matter.  A good book is The Cross and the Pear Tree - A Sephardic Journey by
Victor Perera (this is the correct spelling - no i).  Although some people,
I think question some of his writings, it is a good start.

Hope this helps.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ellis Island records

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Bruce,

 

I don't what you have for them on census records.  Thus far, I found them on
the 1920 census living a 92 Norman Street, Fall River.  John Tavares 49 came
to US 1897, b Portugal, parents b. Portugal Fireman/Bleachery, Wife, Mary 36
b. Bermuda parents b. Portugal, Mary 17, Minnie 15, Manuel 13, Annie 11,
Alfred 8, John 2 all b. MA.  Joao Pedro Tavares and Maria Izabel Pereira
were married in 1899 in Fall River record 488/199.  If you do not have this
record, someone on the list can provide it, I believe, or I can get it from
a friend.  Let me know if you have/want this or not.  

 

As suspected there are several Joao Tavares on ship's manifest.  Also, ca
1897 sometimes there is not too much info on the manifest but I will keep
working on this.  Let me know if you any/all census records..1900, 1910,
1920, 1930 are the US ones available.  

 

Like you, my siblings and I were very troubled when we found out our brother
and sister only had a marker on their graves and we purchased proper
gravestones with cherished sister and loving brother and their names
inscribed on them so I can relate to how you felt.  We even had to pay the
back burial costs, as my parents apparently could not afford to bury my
brother at the time (1920's), before they let us put the stone in.  This was
ca 2004.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help while you do your research - Victor incentive

[Elaine Sharp]

I forgot to mention, please send any correspondence on this to my personal
email address only   bellemarco   atgmaildotcom

 

Thank you

Elaine

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1910 Alameda County birth record

[Elaine Sharp]

Thanks, Katherine.  He died in 1910 and think I will probably end up
ordering his birth record to try and find out the first name of his mother
as we do not have that info.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passportes help needed

[Elaine Sharp]

One more thingon the US ship's manifest she is Jacintha Rosa, on this
Passportes, she is Jacinta Augusta, on Agostinho's marriage record she is
Jacintha R. Garcia - where did this Garcia come from.  Passportes says she
is the daughter of Manuel de Souza and Anna Joaquina? Augusta!  Say what!!

 

Elaine 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anyone using Ipad for genealogy

[Elaine Sharp]

Thank you, Carol, for the reply.  I am going to the Apple store and talk to
them again and this time when they aren't so darn busy...or is that all the
time?

"E"

Funny you should raise that question.  I belong to the Computer
Genealogy Society [in] San Diego [CA) and that was the very issue that
our presentation was on.  It was "Genealogy in the Cloud" and was
about using an iPad for genealogy--and how you do not need programs
like FamilyTreeMaker, RootsMagic, TMG or any of the others.  Now you
can do genealogy "on the web.through Google docs.  It was a real good
presentation.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Join Ancestry.com in the San Francisco Bay Area

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I have registered for the conference for both days.  Great non-genealogy
husband says he will take me to and fro.  I forgot we have male listers who
might attend so scratch the red ribbon idea..have to come up with something
different :-).

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] This will be my last offer

[Elaine Sharp]

Adair,

Do you have this book which mentions and has pictures of your family?

http://books.google.com/books?id=AV7207YoIMMC&pg=PA47&lpg=PA47&dq=borba+fami
ly+sebastopol&source=bl&ots=uUxxKhS_CW&sig=OeS49lLpb8n8h1hKuzFv7yr_2Dg&hl=en
&ei=HP5RTJbPCIT68Abhko2vAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBgQ6
AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margaret R. Lema b. 1917 in Alameda Co, CA

[Elaine Sharp]

Cheri,

 

You're going to find this interesting.  We both answered her in 2009.
http://www.mail-archive.com/azores@googlegroups.com/msg02449.html

 

Elaine

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Perry/Ventura Lagoa, Sao Miguel

[Elaine Sharp]

Thanks, Maria.  Sounds like this might be them.  May I please have the 3
kids and dob’s and generation back on Ventura side.  I am assuming all these
places are in Sao Miguel…..

 

“E”

 

I might have shared this aLREADYI have this family in my file:

 

Manuel Francisco /Pereira/  born 14 Feb 1880 in Santa Cruz, living na Rua do
Castelo 1899 son of  José Francisco /Pereira/ from Agua de Pau e Maria da
Estrella // from st. Cruz married on 16 Nov 1896 in Rosario to Maria do
Rosário /do Rego Ventura/ born 3 Oct 1874 in Rosario daughter of 

Manuel /do Rego Ventura/  alias ( Manuel do Rego Boaventura 1902, Manuel do
Rego 1876; Manuel Ventura 1881) and Francisca Izabel /d'Andrade/

 

Have 3 kids and date of birth and another generation back ON vENTURA side.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores DNA project matches

[Elaine Sharp]

Hi Cheri,

 

Thanks for the Azores DNA breakdown.  I still have difficulty understanding
these things but that you had 3 that matched and they were cousins means the
system works.  Since the 67 marker is a bit more expensive I don't think too
many people are in this category?  

 

I asked question this because I have a family member, predicted haplogroup
is R1b1b2 of German-Volga descent and so far he has had 9 12-marker matches
and 25 25-marker matches and within both groups most are
English/Irish/Scottish, not German or Russian. Since his gfather was not
named on birth record, I am beginning to assume he was a foreigner passing
by although there were a few other nationalities living in the German-Volga
area of Russia I am told.  He was the only child of this union.  We have
traced his mother's father and they left Germany 1766 for Russia under the
invitation of Catherine the Great and this relative's grandmother and father
left Russia in early 1900's for the USA.

 

There is one Cabral in the bunch and it does list 1 Portuguese.
Interesting.

 

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help needed

[Elaine Sharp]

Thank you, Carlos, for the translation.  It is difficult to read the writing
so it could very well be as you note and I think I now know what he was
trying to say since I noticed it had the word nada before Mai and so I
believe it means the person had no mother i.e. the mother was deceased.

 

“E”

 

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Carlos Bertemes
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:35 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help needed

 


Its possibe that mai means Mãe, tunha maybe tenha and com ele with him

Mãe tinha com ele or mother had with him

mai and tunha are not portuguese or maybe misspeled

   

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil

Pesquisando: 
Santa Catarina, Alemanha, Franca, Holanda, Belgica, Espanha
Portugal, Italia, Luxemburgo
Reinert, Jungklaus, Van der Gocht, Ottekier, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Bertemes,

Schilling, Fiorenzano, Feijo, Martins, Costa, Dutra, Dias, Silveira, Gato,
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De: bellema...@gmail.com 
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help needed
Para: "azores" 
Data: Terça-feira, 20 de Outubro de 2009, 18:49

Can someone please translate the following: 

"mai tunha com ele" 

I tried a online translator but does not make sense. Maybe tunha is tanha? 

Thanks, "E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Did you visit the Azores in 2009?

[Elaine Sharp]

I thought it would be interesting to know who visited the Azores in the year
2009(only) or plan to visit in 2009 and which islands you visited. 

 

Myself, we went in May 2009 and visited Terceira and Sao Miguel.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] A couple of Portuguese Wine Festivals in Northern CA- Bom Vinho

[Elaine Sharp]

http://www.carvalhowines.com/ourEvents.asp

 

Check out August 15 & 16 date (We have been to this one a couple of times
and really enjoyed ourselves and hope to go back this year)

 

http://www.raymondburrvineyards.com/int.html

 

Check out Sept. 26 & 27 date (We hope to attend this one for the first time
this year)

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with finding relative on CCA site

[Elaine Sharp]

I will send you both manifest, NY and PVD to your personal email address.
You can also access the NY one on the Ellis Island site; you join, but it is
free.

 

Here is the CCA info on the Jose Pimental d'Andrade 1902:

 

http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1902-1903/PPDL1902-1
903_item1/P67.html

 

This is the page if you cannot access the above site address:  Passaportes -
Ponta Delgada 1902-1903 > Livro1 > 0434 He is No. 1716 .  September
20, 1902

 

Jose Pimentel d'Andrade, parents Maximus??? Pimentel and Maria de Luz, 22,
this says Villa Franca, Sao Miguel.

 

I'm not fluent in Portuguese or the islands at all so I have some problems
reading these.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jacintho/Tarves/Teves

[Elaine Sharp]

Pat,

Here is the Tavares/Teves/Jacintho's that I found on the ship Peninsular on
the CCA Sao Miguel Passportes list.  Since I have a problem reading the
Concelho-??? Freguezia-S. Jose, I am sending the site address and maybe you
or others can do a better job.

http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1900-1902/PPDL1900-1
902_item1/P97.html

They are number 209.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Elaine Sharp]

Carmen,

 

 

Here is what I found on Manuel and Angeline and family:

 

Left Sao Miguel October 20, 1903, ship Cambroman, leaving Oct. 20, 1903
arriving Boston

 

No. 4 Manuel L. Bonito 23, going to brother in law Marianno G. Furtado,
Plymouth Cordage Co., Plymouth MA

Idalinda Jesus Bonito 20

Maria A. Bonito 4 mos.

Maria Augusta 50

Maria Theresa Costa 18, going to her father Jose Da Costa Hollyhock St. New
Bedford (seems to be traveling with them)

 

Can someone on the list please look up this record and help to read it as I
am not familiar enough with all the names, especially where they came from.

Passaportes - Ponta Delgada 1903-1905 > Livro1 > 0514 No. 900, toward
bottom of page

http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1903-1905/PPDL1903-1
905_item1/P23.html

 

Manuel Lourenco Bonito, 23,  parents Luiz Lourenco & Julia Costa,  R.
Quente

Idalina de Jesus 21, parents Jose Botelho & Maria de Carmo??

Maria, 4 mos, parent Manuel Lourenco Bonito

Maria de Jesus, 56, Jacintho de Teves & Ana de Jesus

Maria Thereze 17 (she seems to be traveling with them) does not list her
parents but see ship manifest

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Elaine Sharp]

Carmen,

 

I believe the ones Michelle and I  have found are the correct ones.  You
will note she is Maria Gloria Vieira on manifest.  Shandrie is a nickname
for Alexandrie.  I think you need to update your webpage as you now have
lots more to add to it.  You have Luiz's parents wrong as noted on previous
email of Passportes from Sao Miguel.  Do you have a genealogy program?  I
use Family Tree Maker but you can download a free one from
www.familysearch.org    site  These programs
are the easiest way to keep track of the relatives and on mine I also enter
the obit information in the notes feature.  I will try and find Manuel and
Adeline's manifest record for you later today.  If you are on Ancestry, you
can also access the NY records, it is under Maria De Gloria Vieira, but I
sent it to you from Ancestry.  There are other Vieira's on the ship, a
couple of Manuel's but I am not sure they are the right ones as I don't see
an Adeline-what is their child's name and I hope it isn't Maria.  Since the
first group came to an uncle, I have a feeling Manuel might have come after
April 1903 but before July 1904 when the parents came.

 

Sorry to send in bits and pieces but I am recuperating from an operation and
can only sit for so long and some of the research takes quite a while to
find as Ancestry is not known for having exact spellings of Portugues names.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Elaine Sharp]

Carmen,

Found the parents and siblings on CCA  Passaportes Ponta Delgada - maybe
someone on the list can do a better read of the the record
Passaportes - Ponta Delgada 1903-1905 > Livro1 > 0555 No. 758

Junho 25, 1904

Luiz Lourenco Vieira parents Lourenco Antonio and Anna de Jesus 47, Villa
Franca, R. Quente

Jacintha de Jesus parents Antonio da Costa and M??? De Jesus 46,   "
"

Angelina 13, parents Luiz Lourenco & Jacintha de Jesus

Filomene 23, same

Joao 10, same

Luis 8, same

Alexandrine 5, same

Belmira 2, same

 

Maybe someone on list is related to this family??  Will try to find the
other kids in 1903.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: VitalSearch Death Record Request

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Thanks to this great group I now have the death date I was searching for.  

 

Obrigada, (the one word I did use on my Azores trip)

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: surname Camacho

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Stephanie,

 

Yes I did find them in Ancestry. Do you belong to Ancestry? Here they are in
the 1910 census. Eden Township, Alameda County, CA

 

Manuel G. Camacho 25, married 25 years, b. Portugal, came to US 1889, Alien,
house carpenter

Wife Mary 43, 10 children born, 5 children living

Ch:  Mary 22, b. Hawaii (some of this family was in Hawaii before coming to
US as children were born there 1887, 1888 and came to mainland before Dec.
1889)

John 20 b. CA

Annie 16 b. CA

Ernest 13, b.CA

Celestine 10 b. CA

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello/Amaral

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Thanks, Cheri, for the additional information.  The church will be the No. 1
place I visit on my trip back East.  I think I have some family members who
still belong to this church so I will lean on them, if I have to.

I need one or two other records from them, also.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

[Elaine Sharp]

I want to thank everyone for their help on this.  With your input, I managed
to fill in quite a few blanks and find the exact date of death for Manuel
Duarte Mello, Sr. on Ancestry using the NB directories.  I managed to find
the death of Francisca within a 2 year span and have ordered their obits
from the New Bedford Library and also requested a couple of the children's
birth records.  If this does not give me an exact place in Sao Miguel, I
will then try to get their marriage application from NB Vitals.  Still
scratching my head as to why they changed their surname from Duarte to Mello
ca 1920?

 

Thank you all so much for your help and I will keep you posted.

 

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Need to learn the keyboardit should be NOW instead of
not.duh

"I will not (NOW) try and find ship's manifest under Manuel Duarte and
Francisco Victoria but so far I have had no luck on Ancestry."

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese class in Manteca

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If you live in/near Manteca, CA, it looks like this popular class is fun.  

 

http://mantecabulletin.com/news/article/791/

 

My sis took a class here in Sacramento a couple of years ago and wished we
could have continued but the commute from Folsom to downtown at rush hour in
the winter rains proved too much for my sister and myself so we did not
continue after the first class but we had fun, met really nice people and
had a great teacher.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Book Shepardic Jews

[Elaine Sharp]

Because of my interest in genealogy, I received a book for Christmas I had
not seen before.  It is not a new book and if anyone else is interested in
reading it - it is listed on www.addall.com   with
prices ranging from $1.66  plus shipping.  The book is called "The Grandees"
America's Shepardic Elite by Stephen Birmingham.  It has quite a few
Portuguese names in it, among them Mendes, Cardozo, da`Silva, da Costa, de
Fonseca, Pacheco, etc..  It states on the book cover "back in medieval Spain
and Portugal, to which they trace their origins, the Sephardic Jews
considered themselves the elite, "the nobility of Jewry.  They still do."
Has anyone on the list read this book?

 

I have not read it yet but intend to do so soon.  It even mentions the Dutch
in New York from which my husband descends.  Thought I would pass this along
to anyone else interested.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] New Rootsweb mtDNA site

[Elaine Sharp]

For those interested, there is a new rootsweb website:

 

 
MTDNA-HAPLOGROUP-R-A mailing list for discussing information regarding mtDNA
Haplogroup R theories, genealogies, methods, and test results.

 

Personally, I don't think I will ever understand it - unless my sisters do
one and I did one and then I am sure they would all match :-).

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Library records

[Elaine Sharp]

Here I am in Salt Lake City at the Library and having a great time.  So much
to research, so little time.  I have found several of my family records and
have much more to go.  Unfortunately, the library is only going to be open
tomorrow from 8-11 am as they are having a funeral for a church member.  But
I planned some shopping time so will do it then.  I did not look up any
Azores records as I would have to go through every island, every church to
find my grandmother's records - obviously, I do not know where she was born.
I am having success with my family from the Lisbon/Faro areas.  Also, found
out exactly where in Ireland my son in law's family came from so plan to
visit there on our Europe/Azores trip in April/May.  

 

Love our hotel, right next door to the Library, plus they pick you up and
take you back to the airport so we did not have to rent a car. Weather here
has, thus far, been great and the Christmas lights at the Square are
unbelievable.  Tonite we went to listen to the choir practice, very
impressive.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] SATA from Sao Miguel to Lisbon and Sao Miguel Hotel Thank You

[Elaine Sharp]

Thank you all for your hotel suggestions.  You always come through.  I have
made a reservation and we are on a wait list for a Hotel Avenida
cancellation.  My next question:  I had planned to stay in Sao Miguel until
May 12, BUT, when I look at the air schedule for SATA that day, there is
only one flight that leaves Ponta Delgada at 21.24 and arrives in Lisbon at
.30 just after midnight and this is just not an option for us.  I notice
that May 11 had many more flights.  Is anyone familiar with the SATA
schedule?  Is there only one flight on May 12 to Lisbon?  If this is the
case, then I will have to cut my time in Sao Miguel short and leave for
Lisbon on May 11 on the late afternoon flight in which case I have to change
my hotel reservation :-(.  

 

This trip is proving to be more difficult than I thought. 

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: SLC Family History Library

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I emailed the Family History Library in SLC and gave them the dates I will
be there and they replied that they are ordering the VAULT films I requested
and told me where they will be located so they will be available to me when
I arrive.  This was a great hint for me -if I would have waited until I got
there, chances are I would have left before the films arrived.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Site

[Elaine Sharp]

Someone from another site I belong to sent me this translation site that I
was not aware of so I am passing it along to the list.  Not sure how great
it is but is does do Portuguese to English and vice versa.

http://www.online-translator.com/text_translation.aspx?prmtlang=en


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Update

[Elaine Sharp]

Nanct

 

Good Luck.  My grandson's maternal heritage is German-Volga (Russia).  His
grandfather (both parents born in Russia, ancestors originally from Germany
at the time of Catherine the Great) has matched 15-20 times already.  Not
one from Germany or Russia.  Most are from Great Britian...go figure!!

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Cardoso Rocha Fonseca

[Elaine Sharp]

Any have Francisco Cardoso Rocha Fonseca b. abt. 1892 Doze Ribeiras, Angra,
Terceira in their family tree?  He came to US 1910 with his brother Joao
going to their uncle Guilhermino Cotta Rocha, "Fruit Vale" CA.  Coming from
his father Francisco Cardoso Rocha Fonseca, Doze Ribeiras, Angra, Terceira.

 

Thanks.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Fonseca - Terceira

[Elaine Sharp]

Anyone have a Frank C. R. Fonseca from Terceira in their family tree?

 

Thanks.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Barcellos Family

[Elaine Sharp]

Hi Al,

 

I don't know much about this Mamie Barcellos person, she is related through
a family marriage.  Maybe one day I will research her family.

 

Elaine

 

 


 

 


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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Maria Rosa - Cambridge

[Elaine Sharp]

Linda,

 

In the 1920 census on 105 Fourth St., there is the following:

 

Joseph Madeiros (sp) 24

Guimal wife 20

George son 1 4/2

MARY ROSE 60 came to US 1911 b. Portugal

Roseta Pacheo (could be Pacheco??) dau. 18 b.Portugal came to US 1911.

 

Do you think that maybe Mary Rose never married the father of these other
children? 

 

In the 1920 census at 65 Gore Street there is the following:

 

Joaquim Almida (sp) 22 

Wife Ceciltina 23 came to US 1907 b. Portugal

 

In the 1923 Cambridge directory there is the following:

 

65 Gore Street

Joquin (sp) Almeida

Wife Saltina

 

Will keep looking and send additional info to your personal email address.

 

"E"

 

 

 

 



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Rosa - Cambridge

[Elaine Sharp]

Linda,

 

I found this in the 1930 census, 55 Eighth St., Cambridge, MA

 

Joseph Medeiros 31

Guimar 30

George 11

James 9

 

William Paiva 24

Grace 26

Richard 1 6/12

John A. 11/2

MOTHER IN LAW Mary Rose, 71, widow, came to US 1912.  BUT, they also have
Grace b. in Portugal not the US?   

 

First, I think I would call all the cemeteries in Cambridge to see if they
have a Mary Rose who died after 1930.

 

I am still doing more checking for you.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I'm back with some sorta good news!

[Elaine Sharp]

Nicole, 

Sorry for delay in answering your request, I did not find her in the St.
John's Cemetery book.  Is it possible she was buried in the Azores?
Sometimes they did do this.

"E"

Elaine, could you see if you can find a Conceicao Medeiros Silva in
your book? She was born around 1885, unfortunately I don't know
exactly when she died, I just know that the last record I have of her
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: certificate Jose Silva and Maria Ricarda

[Elaine Sharp]

I found one stillborn child of theirs but didn't give any additional info.
There were a couple of other children but record could not be viewed.

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 'Genealogias de São Miguel'

[Elaine Sharp]

Thanks, Cheri.  I will check the Passportes when it comes back online but
since I do not know any of his family history, I probably won't know which
one he is as I am sure there will be more than one.  I keep checking there
for my grandmother's record but I guess the family story that her she and
her siblings came here aboard a relative's ship must be truebut you
would think they would have had to obtained a passport first.

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 'Genealogias de São Miguel'

[Elaine Sharp]

Eliseu,

I don't know much about Antone/Antonio Pacheco.  All I know is he was born
February 23, 1900 somewhere in Sao Miguel and he came to the US according to
census records in 1919.  I am trying to find out if his obituary gives any
more information about him.  I think he might have had siblings but not
sure.  He married in the US and had only 1 son.

Elaine

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva <
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 'Genealogias de São Miguel'

[Elaine Sharp]

I have a connection to an Antonio Pacheco from somewhere in Sao Miguel in my
line.  He was born in 1900 and settled in MA.  I do not know too much about
him or his family.  He came to the US ca 1919.

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese naming convention

[Elaine Sharp]

My grandmother to my mom was Isabella Victoria Machado; on one of her
records, her father is Victor da Costa Machado, her father is really Antonio
Victor.  Wish I knew who is Victor da Costa Machado was.  I'm assuming this
might be the family that took them in when the parents died?   One of her
siblings was baptized by a Victorino Jose da Costa e Silva, another Antonio
Silveira Machado Villalobos.  This Machado name keeps popping up.

The mystery remains.

Elaine

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[AZORES-Genealogy] New Book on Aviation in the Azores

[Elaine Sharp]

Under the Goshawk's Wings – A History of Aviation in the Azores by Guy
Warner

Looks like it is for sale in UK.  Maybe one day here?

http://www.portugalresident.com/portugalresident/showstory.asp?ID=28995

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Women driving in the old country.

[Elaine Sharp]

When I went to visit my new found cousins in Lisbon 2 years ago all the male
cousins told me I was a very strong willed American woman.  Much to their
dismay, I told them my mother and 4 sisters were also.  When I told one of
them that I took vacations without my husband, with his blessing- thank you,
you could have heard a pin drop.  He said his wife would never travel
alonepersonally, I think he thought she would never come back.  The
women in the family did drive and have cars, however.  Almost every single
one of these cousins has a PhD including the women.  I think they almost
passed out when I paid the dinner bill for all 27 of usI think they
expected my husband to do this.  Such fun!

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1979 San Francisco Obit Look up

[Elaine Sharp]

Robin,

Most of my relatives that I have researched who died in SF are buried at
Colma cemetery.

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Salt Lake City records vs. Azores Archives records

[Elaine Sharp]

Thanks, Cheri.  Well, my Victor family genealogy started in Italy and
mainland Portugal and doesn't start in the Azores until late 1860's, when
their first child I have a record of was born in Calheta, Sao Jorge to
1898-99 when they came to the US, although one brother remained in Faial
according to a 1936 US obit.  So not a very long genealogy there.  I am
still trying to find my grandmother's baptism record but I do not know where
she was born or baptized.  US records say Terceira, Sao Miguel and Rio de
Janeiro (which I rather doubt).  Her siblings were born in Terceira, Faial,
Sao Jorge, and the adopted sister said she was born in Flores, but I think
the Pedro family who adopted her lived in Flores. One sister was sent to an
orphanage in Sao Miguel and I have been in contact with her descendants and
we still have not found her baptism record either.  This sister returned to
Sao Miguel before her death looking for the records and did not find them
either so I don't feel too bad.  She did get the orphanage records.

So I guess I would have to look at all the Archives in the Azores?  That is
why I was wondering if I might be better off in Salt Lake looking for birth,
death records, but if they only go to 1880's, that won't do me any good
either.  And since I don't speak the Portuguese language, don't know how
much I can get done in these Archives, but I can read the records as I
usually look for the fairly unusual surname somewhere in the document.

I am trying to plan a trip to the Azores going to the 3? Archives although I
would like to visit as many islands as possible and stay only 1 day on the
ones that do not have an Archive.  My new found cousin who lives about 1 1/2
hours from me, born in Terceira, visits each year with her family
that still lives there, of course, that I have never met them.  We share
same grandfather, different grandmothers.

Sometimes I just get a little frustrated not finding this one record that I
promised my mom I would find.  This grandmother died when my mom was only 11
years old.  You would think having a circus and high wire act over there
there would be something, somewhere in old papers?  I don't even know where
my great-grandparents died over there - family history says they died while
performing and I can only guess it was ca 1891 when the last sister was born
and the other sister was sent to the orphanage. My mother always thought her
mother's surname was Machado when it was really Victor, so I can only assume
the other siblings were taken in by a Machado family after the parents died.

I am going to contact a recommended travel agent and see if I can work
something out.

Thanks (not so frustrated).
Elaine

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Lake City records vs. Azores Archives records

[Elaine Sharp]

Here is my dilemma.  Naturally, I want to go to the Azores (with a side trip
to Ireland and Scotland).  Still trying to get something worked out for late
Sept., early Oct.  BUT, my husband has offered to take me to Salt Lake City
for a week or however long I want to stay to do research just in case my
Azores plans fall through.  SO...what records would I find at the Archives
in the Azores that I would not find at FHC in Salt Lake?

Thanks.
"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1979 San Francisco Obit Look up

[Elaine Sharp]

Isn't Monday Labor Day?  Library will be closed.  Be sure to look up their
hours before you come.  Pretty easy going through the drawers to find the
films you need.

Elaine

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1979 San Francisco Obit Look up

[Elaine Sharp]

I have a great guy who does my Santa Cruz obits for me, he does some SF, you
put your request and he usually takes less than a week to get them and I
always send a small donation for his help but if you are coming to
Sacramento, I believe you can find the Santa Cruz obits there also.  The
only problem at Sacramento Library is find a parking space.but if there
is nothing going on at the State house, it's not so bad.  I don't know what
SF newspapers newspaperarchive has these days as I am no long a subscriber
but Ancestry has most of the same papers.

Elaine

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1979 San Francisco Obit Look up

[Elaine Sharp]

Try this source for obit, you have to have exact date and send SASE:

http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Meredith's Visit to Horta, Faial

[Elaine Sharp]

For those of you who missed the program, you can stream the video on

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26389261#26389261

If this doesn't take you directly to it, just go to

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/12065856/

and click on Meredith discovers her roots.  She did keep saying Horta on the
show - don't know why.

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Meredith's Visit to Horta, Faial

[Elaine Sharp]

Hope you all got to see this.  I really enjoyed it, especially since one of
my great uncles, Teotonio Victor,  was born in Horta, Faial and I know I now
need to start trying to find out what happened to him.  He did not come to
the U. S.

Interesting how the Vieira houses are now abandoned and the older of her
cousins reminded my of my grandmother from Lisbon.  Was nice to see she took
her son and nephew with her.  She says 3 of her grandparents were from
Faial, anyone know which island her other grandparent was from?

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I'm back with some sorta good news!

[Elaine Sharp]

Nicole,

Good luck with your research.  The best time to visit New Bedford is in the
Fall.  The weather is nice and the colors absolutely beautiful!

If any of your ancestors are buried at St. John's Cemetery, I have that book
to do a lookup if you need it.

"E"

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