Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Cheri, When I export anonymized information for the living in a GEDCOM, there's no 'flag' saying: please mark this private, which FTDNA can then toggle to make public again. It goes out like this: 0 INDI I02 1 NAME [Living] /Sousa/ 2 GIVN [Living] 2 SURN Sousa 1 FAMS F01 2 FAMC F02 That's all there is to it, the full entry for that individual. There's no way that anyone can ever toggle that info to get the info I wanted private (like birthdates). Since it's never there in the first place. As it should never be. If it's information that you deem private enough, it should never leave your PC. Exporting it with all details, and then trusting a third party (in this case FTDNA) to keep that info hidden is asking for trouble. They may have problems in their software, and your data will be exposed to others. Your password may be easy to guess and someone could try to hack into your account (just ask all the celebrities that had their nude pictures published on the Internet recently). A disgruntled employee may keep a copy of the database and release it to the public when they leave the company (yes, I trust that FTDNA has checks in place to prevent that, but still...). João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Monday, 15 September 2014 21:25:59 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote: Joao C. Ventura (Tombo guy) can explain it better. It's not FTDNA. It's the way computer programming works. If you tell a computer program to do something (in this case, hide a birthdate), and then you take that information and tell a 2nd computer program to hide the birthdate again, we as humans know what we want. We want to be sure that the birthdate is hidden. But with computer programming, it only knows 2 things: Off or on (binary code). So in one program, you turn it off, send it to the other program and turn it off again, it can't. It can only do the opposite and turn in on. It's like a light switch. You can turn it on and the light does not go on (burned out bulb). You can't turn it on again to be sure it's on. You can only turn it off and then try to turn it on again. That's what it's like (sorta) with computer programming. I'm not a computer programmer. I took a BASIC class over 30 years ago. Joao (Tombo) can give a much more correct explanation. You can't tell a computer program to do the same thing twice after it did it the first time. That's why I recommend that you just leave the dates in your program ON. Export them out. It's fine. Upload it to FTDNA and turn it OFF there. If you have clean data entry, it will work. And if you don't like what you see, play with the privacy settings or take your tree down until they are done tweaking it more. But they won't be able to make it hide a date after you've hidden it on your end. It just the nature of computer programming. I need to get lunch and go to work. I'll have to play around in a tree to make a better explanation. Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Tish M tish@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more passengers people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson mar...@jmtmlt.com javascript: wrote: Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it without there full birth information (year only). On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Tish M tish@gmail.com javascript: wrote: João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for me). The breach I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Thanks for the explanation João. I will redo my gedcom. Tish On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:36 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Cheri, When I export anonymized information for the living in a GEDCOM, there's no 'flag' saying: please mark this private, which FTDNA can then toggle to make public again. It goes out like this: 0 INDI I02 1 NAME [Living] /Sousa/ 2 GIVN [Living] 2 SURN Sousa 1 FAMS F01 2 FAMC F02 That's all there is to it, the full entry for that individual. There's no way that anyone can ever toggle that info to get the info I wanted private (like birthdates). Since it's never there in the first place. As it should never be. If it's information that you deem private enough, it should never leave your PC. Exporting it with all details, and then trusting a third party (in this case FTDNA) to keep that info hidden is asking for trouble. They may have problems in their software, and your data will be exposed to others. Your password may be easy to guess and someone could try to hack into your account (just ask all the celebrities that had their nude pictures published on the Internet recently). A disgruntled employee may keep a copy of the database and release it to the public when they leave the company (yes, I trust that FTDNA has checks in place to prevent that, but still...). João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Monday, 15 September 2014 21:25:59 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote: Joao C. Ventura (Tombo guy) can explain it better. It's not FTDNA. It's the way computer programming works. If you tell a computer program to do something (in this case, hide a birthdate), and then you take that information and tell a 2nd computer program to hide the birthdate again, we as humans know what we want. We want to be sure that the birthdate is hidden. But with computer programming, it only knows 2 things: Off or on (binary code). So in one program, you turn it off, send it to the other program and turn it off again, it can't. It can only do the opposite and turn in on. It's like a light switch. You can turn it on and the light does not go on (burned out bulb). You can't turn it on again to be sure it's on. You can only turn it off and then try to turn it on again. That's what it's like (sorta) with computer programming. I'm not a computer programmer. I took a BASIC class over 30 years ago. Joao (Tombo) can give a much more correct explanation. You can't tell a computer program to do the same thing twice after it did it the first time. That's why I recommend that you just leave the dates in your program ON. Export them out. It's fine. Upload it to FTDNA and turn it OFF there. If you have clean data entry, it will work. And if you don't like what you see, play with the privacy settings or take your tree down until they are done tweaking it more. But they won't be able to make it hide a date after you've hidden it on your end. It just the nature of computer programming. I need to get lunch and go to work. I'll have to play around in a tree to make a better explanation. Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Tish M tish@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more passengers people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson mar...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it without there full birth information (year only). On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Tish M tish@gmail.com wrote: João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for me). The breach I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Joao, I know that TMG has an option to suppress the details of the living. I believe the other genealogy programs do as well. I know when I've told others not to mark private on their end but to do it when uploaded to FTDNA it undid the setting. I understand what you mean by having the 3rd party do it for you. Maybe they just shouldn't have that option at all and have us do it on our end (but there are many who are uncomfortable making Gedcoms). Might be something to bring up to them at the conference next month. Cheri On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:36 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Cheri, When I export anonymized information for the living in a GEDCOM, there's no 'flag' saying: please mark this private, which FTDNA can then toggle to make public again. It goes out like this: 0 INDI I02 1 NAME [Living] /Sousa/ 2 GIVN [Living] 2 SURN Sousa 1 FAMS F01 2 FAMC F02 That's all there is to it, the full entry for that individual. There's no way that anyone can ever toggle that info to get the info I wanted private (like birthdates). Since it's never there in the first place. As it should never be. If it's information that you deem private enough, it should never leave your PC. Exporting it with all details, and then trusting a third party (in this case FTDNA) to keep that info hidden is asking for trouble. They may have problems in their software, and your data will be exposed to others. Your password may be easy to guess and someone could try to hack into your account (just ask all the celebrities that had their nude pictures published on the Internet recently). A disgruntled employee may keep a copy of the database and release it to the public when they leave the company (yes, I trust that FTDNA has checks in place to prevent that, but still...). João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Monday, 15 September 2014 21:25:59 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote: Joao C. Ventura (Tombo guy) can explain it better. It's not FTDNA. It's the way computer programming works. If you tell a computer program to do something (in this case, hide a birthdate), and then you take that information and tell a 2nd computer program to hide the birthdate again, we as humans know what we want. We want to be sure that the birthdate is hidden. But with computer programming, it only knows 2 things: Off or on (binary code). So in one program, you turn it off, send it to the other program and turn it off again, it can't. It can only do the opposite and turn in on. It's like a light switch. You can turn it on and the light does not go on (burned out bulb). You can't turn it on again to be sure it's on. You can only turn it off and then try to turn it on again. That's what it's like (sorta) with computer programming. I'm not a computer programmer. I took a BASIC class over 30 years ago. Joao (Tombo) can give a much more correct explanation. You can't tell a computer program to do the same thing twice after it did it the first time. That's why I recommend that you just leave the dates in your program ON. Export them out. It's fine. Upload it to FTDNA and turn it OFF there. If you have clean data entry, it will work. And if you don't like what you see, play with the privacy settings or take your tree down until they are done tweaking it more. But they won't be able to make it hide a date after you've hidden it on your end. It just the nature of computer programming. I need to get lunch and go to work. I'll have to play around in a tree to make a better explanation. Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Tish M tish@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more passengers people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson mar...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it without there full birth information (year only). On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
I find this all very confusing. Why hasn't ftDNA just taken all gedcom's off line? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Joao, I know that TMG has an option to suppress the details of the living. I believe the other genealogy programs do as well. I know when I've told others not to mark private on their end but to do it when uploaded to FTDNA it undid the setting. I understand what you mean by having the 3rd party do it for you. Maybe they just shouldn't have that option at all and have us do it on our end (but there are many who are uncomfortable making Gedcoms). Might be something to bring up to them at the conference next month. Cheri On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:36 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Cheri, When I export anonymized information for the living in a GEDCOM, there's no 'flag' saying: please mark this private, which FTDNA can then toggle to make public again. It goes out like this: 0 INDI I02 1 NAME [Living] /Sousa/ 2 GIVN [Living] 2 SURN Sousa 1 FAMS F01 2 FAMC F02 That's all there is to it, the full entry for that individual. There's no way that anyone can ever toggle that info to get the info I wanted private (like birthdates). Since it's never there in the first place. As it should never be. If it's information that you deem private enough, it should never leave your PC. Exporting it with all details, and then trusting a third party (in this case FTDNA) to keep that info hidden is asking for trouble. They may have problems in their software, and your data will be exposed to others. Your password may be easy to guess and someone could try to hack into your account (just ask all the celebrities that had their nude pictures published on the Internet recently). A disgruntled employee may keep a copy of the database and release it to the public when they leave the company (yes, I trust that FTDNA has checks in place to prevent that, but still...). João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Monday, 15 September 2014 21:25:59 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote: Joao C. Ventura (Tombo guy) can explain it better. It's not FTDNA. It's the way computer programming works. If you tell a computer program to do something (in this case, hide a birthdate), and then you take that information and tell a 2nd computer program to hide the birthdate again, we as humans know what we want. We want to be sure that the birthdate is hidden. But with computer programming, it only knows 2 things: Off or on (binary code). So in one program, you turn it off, send it to the other program and turn it off again, it can't. It can only do the opposite and turn in on. It's like a light switch. You can turn it on and the light does not go on (burned out bulb). You can't turn it on again to be sure it's on. You can only turn it off and then try to turn it on again. That's what it's like (sorta) with computer programming. I'm not a computer programmer. I took a BASIC class over 30 years ago. Joao (Tombo) can give a much more correct explanation. You can't tell a computer program to do the same thing twice after it did it the first time. That's why I recommend that you just leave the dates in your program ON. Export them out. It's fine. Upload it to FTDNA and turn it OFF there. If you have clean data entry, it will work. And if you don't like what you see, play with the privacy settings or take your tree down until they are done tweaking it more. But they won't be able to make it hide a date after you've hidden it on your end. It just the nature of computer programming. I need to get lunch and go to work. I'll have to play around in a tree to make a better explanation. Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Tish M tish@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more passengers people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson mar...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
I'm happy with the results showing for my and my father's gedcom. I'm glad they haven't removed them.But maybe it's because I have not made anything private. I put what info I wanted to be there and nothing more.I admit it's not the easiest thing to make a proper gedcom. I doubt my father could do it without a lot of help.Maybe the best way is to first create a second set of data files containing only the people and information you want there - no siblings, no notes, no pictures, no references.Once you have done that, you now open up your newly created data files (which must have been saved to some other directory or you are possibly going to erase your normal files). Once open, look over all the data you want to be there. Delete anything you don't want. Then it's simple to export the entire thing as a gedcom for posting.In the future, you might have to do the entire process all over again, assuming you make progress with extending your tree and want to show everyone a larger tree.For me, I made just 6 generations to show. At least it's better than some who don't want to post anything, even though they have the ability. I sometimes wonder why they even got tested if they don't want to connect to people.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA From: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Date: Tue, September 16, 2014 11:00 am To: "azores@googlegroups.com" azores@googlegroups.com I find this all very confusing. Why hasn't ftDNA just taken all gedcom's off line? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Good ideas. I am learning quite a bit. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:08 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I'm happy with the results showing for my and my father's gedcom. I'm glad they haven't removed them. But maybe it's because I have not made anything private. I put what info I wanted to be there and nothing more. I admit it's not the easiest thing to make a proper gedcom. I doubt my father could do it without a lot of help. Maybe the best way is to first create a second set of data files containing only the people and information you want there - no siblings, no notes, no pictures, no references. Once you have done that, you now open up your newly created data files (which must have been saved to some other directory or you are possibly going to erase your normal files). Once open, look over all the data you want to be there. Delete anything you don't want. Then it's simple to export the entire thing as a gedcom for posting. In the future, you might have to do the entire process all over again, assuming you make progress with extending your tree and want to show everyone a larger tree. For me, I made just 6 generations to show. At least it's better than some who don't want to post anything, even though they have the ability. I sometimes wonder why they even got tested if they don't want to connect to people. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA From: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Date: Tue, September 16, 2014 11:00 am To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com I find this all very confusing. Why hasn't ftDNA just taken all gedcom's off line? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
OK. I deleted my gedcom and reenter one with suggestions from João and Doug and finally got something close to what I wanted. It still has private in some places, but it is much better. I didn't change any of their settings. I also saved the gedcom with microsoft ascii character set and all of the ã's, ç, etc. came in perfectly. I am somewhat happy now. Tish On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Good ideas. I am learning quite a bit. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:08 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I'm happy with the results showing for my and my father's gedcom. I'm glad they haven't removed them. But maybe it's because I have not made anything private. I put what info I wanted to be there and nothing more. I admit it's not the easiest thing to make a proper gedcom. I doubt my father could do it without a lot of help. Maybe the best way is to first create a second set of data files containing only the people and information you want there - no siblings, no notes, no pictures, no references. Once you have done that, you now open up your newly created data files (which must have been saved to some other directory or you are possibly going to erase your normal files). Once open, look over all the data you want to be there. Delete anything you don't want. Then it's simple to export the entire thing as a gedcom for posting. In the future, you might have to do the entire process all over again, assuming you make progress with extending your tree and want to show everyone a larger tree. For me, I made just 6 generations to show. At least it's better than some who don't want to post anything, even though they have the ability. I sometimes wonder why they even got tested if they don't want to connect to people. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA From: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Date: Tue, September 16, 2014 11:00 am To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com I find this all very confusing. Why hasn't ftDNA just taken all gedcom's off line? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Hi all, I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden! YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't like. Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present to others. Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter BEFORE you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows you to 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered the way you like at the source and you shouldn't need to worry about having FTDNA come up with filters that suit your taste. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:55:41 UTC+2, sfig wrote: I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend to do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy. Tish On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They know. They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next month. IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! Or they are going to have to search us admins for rotten tomatoes because IT/Engineering may get some!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Joao C, Actually, FTDNA prefers that you NOT make it anonymous on your end when creating the Gedcom and then to chose the privacy settings when you upload it to their site. Many people mark the living private when creating the Gedcom. They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing. Tish, I don't understand why you say FTDNA is doing a breach to our privacy. They aren't installing anything on our computers. They aren't stealing banking info. They give us the choice as to what we want to share or not share. However, their directions about how to do it (paragraph above) isn't clear at all. All I know is that the IT/Engineering guys are going to have to wear a suit of armor from head to toe, because there are a lot of admins who are going to throw rotten tomatoes at them at the conference next month! LOL Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi all, I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden! YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't like. Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present to others. Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter BEFORE you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows you to 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered the way you like at the source and you shouldn't need to worry about having FTDNA come up with filters that suit your taste. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:55:41 UTC+2, sfig wrote: I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend to do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy. Tish On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They know. They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next month. IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! Or they are going to have to search us admins for rotten tomatoes because IT/Engineering may get some!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for me). The breach I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing.) The breach statement is that you have given them your name, your parents name and in many cases all of your parents pertinent information (date of birth, where they were born, etc.). Much of this type of information is used (or used to be used) in setting up bank accounts, and who know what. I'm not really saying these things are still used, but this type of information could surely be used for identity theft, or some other scam where the scammer has information you have unwittingly provided. They should have made sure the program wasn't causing this type of information to get out no matter what you checked. Maybe they should have had a pop up telling you what you were about to do by checking private. I'm just frustrated with their system and until it is fixed, this is my fix. Tish João, in ways you are right. I can give them anything I want, but when I am working with a company (who I trust) I expect that company to act with my best interest at heart. In the further I will make my gedcom with my parameters as I want them. I personally don't think I should have to do this, but I get your point. I still does not change my stance at this time. You say now no one can look at my stuff, this is true, but all they were getting was PRIVATE when they looked anyhow. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Joao C, Actually, FTDNA prefers that you NOT make it anonymous on your end when creating the Gedcom and then to chose the privacy settings when you upload it to their site. Many people mark the living private when creating the Gedcom. They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing. Tish, I don't understand why you say FTDNA is doing a breach to our privacy. They aren't installing anything on our computers. They aren't stealing banking info. They give us the choice as to what we want to share or not share. However, their directions about how to do it (paragraph above) isn't clear at all. All I know is that the IT/Engineering guys are going to have to wear a suit of armor from head to toe, because there are a lot of admins who are going to throw rotten tomatoes at them at the conference next month! LOL Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi all, I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden! YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't like. Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present to others. Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter BEFORE you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows you to 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered the way you like at the source and you shouldn't need to worry about having FTDNA come up with filters that suit your taste. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:55:41 UTC+2, sfig wrote: I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend to do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy. Tish On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They know. They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next month. IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! Or they are going to have to search us admins for rotten tomatoes because IT/Engineering may get some!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it without there full birth information (year only). On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for me). The breach I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing.) The breach statement is that you have given them your name, your parents name and in many cases all of your parents pertinent information (date of birth, where they were born, etc.). Much of this type of information is used (or used to be used) in setting up bank accounts, and who know what. I'm not really saying these things are still used, but this type of information could surely be used for identity theft, or some other scam where the scammer has information you have unwittingly provided. They should have made sure the program wasn't causing this type of information to get out no matter what you checked. Maybe they should have had a pop up telling you what you were about to do by checking private. I'm just frustrated with their system and until it is fixed, this is my fix. Tish João, in ways you are right. I can give them anything I want, but when I am working with a company (who I trust) I expect that company to act with my best interest at heart. In the further I will make my gedcom with my parameters as I want them. I personally don't think I should have to do this, but I get your point. I still does not change my stance at this time. You say now no one can look at my stuff, this is true, but all they were getting was PRIVATE when they looked anyhow. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Joao C, Actually, FTDNA prefers that you NOT make it anonymous on your end when creating the Gedcom and then to chose the privacy settings when you upload it to their site. Many people mark the living private when creating the Gedcom. They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing. Tish, I don't understand why you say FTDNA is doing a breach to our privacy. They aren't installing anything on our computers. They aren't stealing banking info. They give us the choice as to what we want to share or not share. However, their directions about how to do it (paragraph above) isn't clear at all. All I know is that the IT/Engineering guys are going to have to wear a suit of armor from head to toe, because there are a lot of admins who are going to throw rotten tomatoes at them at the conference next month! LOL Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi all, I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden! YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't like. Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present to others. Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter BEFORE you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows you to 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered the way you like at the source and you shouldn't need to worry about having FTDNA come up with filters that suit your taste. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:55:41 UTC+2, sfig wrote: I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend to do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy. Tish On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They know. They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next month. IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! Or they are going to have to search
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more passengers people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it without there full birth information (year only). On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for me). The breach I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing.) The breach statement is that you have given them your name, your parents name and in many cases all of your parents pertinent information (date of birth, where they were born, etc.). Much of this type of information is used (or used to be used) in setting up bank accounts, and who know what. I'm not really saying these things are still used, but this type of information could surely be used for identity theft, or some other scam where the scammer has information you have unwittingly provided. They should have made sure the program wasn't causing this type of information to get out no matter what you checked. Maybe they should have had a pop up telling you what you were about to do by checking private. I'm just frustrated with their system and until it is fixed, this is my fix. Tish João, in ways you are right. I can give them anything I want, but when I am working with a company (who I trust) I expect that company to act with my best interest at heart. In the further I will make my gedcom with my parameters as I want them. I personally don't think I should have to do this, but I get your point. I still does not change my stance at this time. You say now no one can look at my stuff, this is true, but all they were getting was PRIVATE when they looked anyhow. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Joao C, Actually, FTDNA prefers that you NOT make it anonymous on your end when creating the Gedcom and then to chose the privacy settings when you upload it to their site. Many people mark the living private when creating the Gedcom. They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing. Tish, I don't understand why you say FTDNA is doing a breach to our privacy. They aren't installing anything on our computers. They aren't stealing banking info. They give us the choice as to what we want to share or not share. However, their directions about how to do it (paragraph above) isn't clear at all. All I know is that the IT/Engineering guys are going to have to wear a suit of armor from head to toe, because there are a lot of admins who are going to throw rotten tomatoes at them at the conference next month! LOL Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi all, I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden! YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't like. Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present to others. Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter BEFORE you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows you to 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Joao C. Ventura (Tombo guy) can explain it better. It's not FTDNA. It's the way computer programming works. If you tell a computer program to do something (in this case, hide a birthdate), and then you take that information and tell a 2nd computer program to hide the birthdate again, we as humans know what we want. We want to be sure that the birthdate is hidden. But with computer programming, it only knows 2 things: Off or on (binary code). So in one program, you turn it off, send it to the other program and turn it off again, it can't. It can only do the opposite and turn in on. It's like a light switch. You can turn it on and the light does not go on (burned out bulb). You can't turn it on again to be sure it's on. You can only turn it off and then try to turn it on again. That's what it's like (sorta) with computer programming. I'm not a computer programmer. I took a BASIC class over 30 years ago. Joao (Tombo) can give a much more correct explanation. You can't tell a computer program to do the same thing twice after it did it the first time. That's why I recommend that you just leave the dates in your program ON. Export them out. It's fine. Upload it to FTDNA and turn it OFF there. If you have clean data entry, it will work. And if you don't like what you see, play with the privacy settings or take your tree down until they are done tweaking it more. But they won't be able to make it hide a date after you've hidden it on your end. It just the nature of computer programming. I need to get lunch and go to work. I'll have to play around in a tree to make a better explanation. Cheri On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more passengers people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one. I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it without there full birth information (year only). On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for me). The breach I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing.) The breach statement is that you have given them your name, your parents name and in many cases all of your parents pertinent information (date of birth, where they were born, etc.). Much of this type of information is used (or used to be used) in setting up bank accounts, and who know what. I'm not really saying these things are still used, but this type of information could surely be used for identity theft, or some other scam where the scammer has information you have unwittingly provided. They should have made sure the program wasn't causing this type of information to get out no matter what you checked. Maybe they should have had a pop up telling you what you were about to do by checking private. I'm just frustrated with their system and until it is fixed, this is my fix. Tish João, in ways you are right. I can give them anything I want, but when I am working with a company (who I trust) I expect that company to act with my best interest at heart. In the further I will make my gedcom with my parameters as I want them. I personally don't think I should have to do this, but I get your point. I still does not change my stance at this time. You say now no one can look at my stuff, this is true, but all they were getting was PRIVATE when they looked
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They know. They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next month. IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! Or they are going to have to search us admins for rotten tomatoes because IT/Engineering may get some!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend to do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy. Tish On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They know. They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next month. IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! Or they are going to have to search us admins for rotten tomatoes because IT/Engineering may get some!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Does FTDNA automatically do private on living people? On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: A-ha, there's a new setting that we have to change to stop the new Trees on FTDNA from displaying Private. Log into FTDNA. Upper right corner, click on your name. When the next window opens, click on the Genealogy tab. Next window, make ALL 3 of those buttons PUBLIC. Click save. That should stop people from seeing Private in your tree on FTDNA. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
Here's what it says (default). Family Tree Privacy Settings Who can we show on your family tree? Deceased people born 100+ years ago: Public (default). Options: Matches or Private Deceased people born in the last 100 years: Private (default) Options: Public or Matches Living people: Private (default) Options: Public or Matches When I made all 3 Public, it took away all that private stuff. If you ask me, the IT/Engineering guys confused Deceased born 100+ years ago with Deceased born in the last 100 years. However, if you have an ancestor born 1800 and no death date, FTDNA may read that as living and mark it as private. There used to be an option of making those born in the last 100 years private. This is simply a command for living. Something tells me that the IT guys probably didn't do it right. I used to tell people to mark it private. Then I start to think about it. To steal my identity, someone would have to pay FTDNA a bit of money to find my birth date and mother's maiden name. And they'd have to dig in my trash to see if they could find an account number with that. Then they'd have to know some of those security questions that are now asked. Too much work. Criminals go for the easy way. So I leave my stuff open for my matches. Cheri On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Does FTDNA automatically do private on living people? On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: A-ha, there's a new setting that we have to change to stop the new Trees on FTDNA from displaying Private. Log into FTDNA. Upper right corner, click on your name. When the next window opens, click on the Genealogy tab. Next window, make ALL 3 of those buttons PUBLIC. Click save. That should stop people from seeing Private in your tree on FTDNA. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting rid of the Private people in the new Family Trees on FTDNA
ok I will go in and change mine. I do not have my birthday showing on the data in my GEDCOM. I did notice that I did include Gil's so I guess I will remove the GEDCOM and delete his birthday information and his two sisters that are still alive. I will have to check the other GEDCOMs I have posted. This tree is very frustrating. It took me a while to see that the tree is running my dad's side into my mother's side. Making it look like that generation is continous all the way across the page. I realize it is a work in progress. Marilyn On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what it says (default). Family Tree Privacy Settings Who can we show on your family tree? Deceased people born 100+ years ago: Public (default). Options: Matches or Private Deceased people born in the last 100 years: Private (default) Options: Public or Matches Living people: Private (default) Options: Public or Matches When I made all 3 Public, it took away all that private stuff. If you ask me, the IT/Engineering guys confused Deceased born 100+ years ago with Deceased born in the last 100 years. However, if you have an ancestor born 1800 and no death date, FTDNA may read that as living and mark it as private. There used to be an option of making those born in the last 100 years private. This is simply a command for living. Something tells me that the IT guys probably didn't do it right. I used to tell people to mark it private. Then I start to think about it. To steal my identity, someone would have to pay FTDNA a bit of money to find my birth date and mother's maiden name. And they'd have to dig in my trash to see if they could find an account number with that. Then they'd have to know some of those security questions that are now asked. Too much work. Criminals go for the easy way. So I leave my stuff open for my matches. Cheri On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: Does FTDNA automatically do private on living people? On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: A-ha, there's a new setting that we have to change to stop the new Trees on FTDNA from displaying Private. Log into FTDNA. Upper right corner, click on your name. When the next window opens, click on the Genealogy tab. Next window, make ALL 3 of those buttons PUBLIC. Click save. That should stop people from seeing Private in your tree on FTDNA. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
