Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Mac: can you please store Installed Plugins somewhere else than in the cache folder?
mherger wrote: > > The Cache tree is explicitly for purgeable data so the OS could try > to > > free up space there, that would be expected behavior. > > And LMS is supposed to re-install plugins missing from it's > InstalledPlugins folder. > Ah, yes, of course you are right. I thought that configuration was also in plugin-data.yaml but it's in extensions.prefs. > > If that fails because some repository has > disappeared, then this certainly is frustrating. But nothing we should > try to work around by changing LMS. You can manually install plugins. > The folder is shown in Settings/Information. Just keep a copy of the ZIP > > file, if it's important to you. > Or you could move the plugin folder to ~/Library/Application Support/Squeezebox/Plugins The only downside is that you then have to manually update it. I think the best way would be to keep a copy of the plugin folder from "Installed Plugins" and if it's lost, restore the copy to ~/Library/Application Support/Squeezebox/Plugins --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109206 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Mac: can you please store Installed Plugins somewhere else than in the cache folder?
bpa wrote:
>
> How does the Mac "know" the Cache directory is a cache directory - it
> cannot assume just by name ?
>
The Mac has a folder tree for Caches, it's this tree where LMS installs
the plugin data, not the application data ("Application Support") tree
where e.g. preferences and - ironically - LMS provided plugins are
stored.
The Cache tree is explicitly for purgeable data so the OS could try to
free up space there, that would be expected behavior.
>
> Would it not be better to get the Cache directory off this list.
Getting the plugin directories off this tree is what this thread is
about, I believe.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Mac: can you please store Installed Plugins somewhere else than in the cache folder?
Actually I dont know but I do know it does all kinds of weird stuff when running out of disk space. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109206 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Mac: can you please store Installed Plugins somewhere else than in the cache folder?
mherger wrote: > > The problem is: it's not a very safe place to store stuff in because > > every now and then the entire cache folder gets deleted due to (major) > > OS updates, trouble shooting and what not. > > This never happened to me. Really. I do have one system I'm always on > the latest macOS dev build, just to make sure it doesn't break LMS. And > I never lost plugins or whatsoever. > Did you ever have a full primary drive on that device? That happens frequently on these new SSD entry level models Apple now offers of MacBook and MacBook Air --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109206 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] No (more) updates?
If that certbot automation only worked ... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108142 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] How to use DoP/DSD in 7.9 as a player
Well, maybe theres something in the SqueezeLite thread --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106915 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] How to use DoP/DSD in 7.9 as a player
As I said: SqueezeLite has some options for this in the code. I think its a command line option but it might even be a compile time option, Daphile supports it in the SqueezeLite version it uses AFAIK. Have a look at the SqueezeLite code for details, maybe the SqueezerLite github page has a description, too. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106915 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] How to use DoP/DSD in 7.9 as a player
I think there are some command line options for SqueezeLite --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106915 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] How to use DoP/DSD in 7.9 as a player
Then you have enabled DoP in the DSDPlayer plugin. That's what I initially did wrong, too --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106915 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9.0 release candidates - please test!
Thanks, Michael, I will give it a try! --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107078 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Compilation Tag causing Artist/Album Artist problems
Here and in the following posts there is more discussion of the issue which apparently also applies to the "status" query. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101516-7-9-Problems-Bugs=807514=Aaltedio#post807514 Interestingly, this discussion is from almost exactly two years ago, seems to be a February topic --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103494 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Compilation Tag causing Artist/Album Artist problems
No, I'm using "titles" withs "tags:Aaltedio". According to the CLI spec "titles" supports the same tagged parameters as songinfo. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103494 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Compilation Tag causing Artist/Album Artist problems
To elaborate: iPeng here uses the "trackartist" if present, NOT the artist. But in the cases shown above, the "songinfo" query either doesn't return a trackartist or a wrong one (IIRC it returned the wrong one). That's clearly a server bug. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103494 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Compilation Tag causing Artist/Album Artist problems
mherger wrote: > > So I hope since this is a server bug it can be fixed. > > If all but one client app work correctly, then it's a server bug? Quite > obviously iPeng is doing something differently. > > -- > > Michael The server doesn't work as specified in the CLI spec. Sorry, this is totally clearly a server bug. We've discussed this a dozen times. Just because iPeng doesn't use the untaggeg text information but the actual track artist that track artist should still be correct. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103494 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Compilation Tag causing Artist/Album Artist problems
Ah, OK, I think this above is a DIFFERENT issue where songinfo returns the albumartist as trackartist where it shouldn't . IIRC we discussed this, too, and the problem might have been if the albumartist is a selection criterion, too, but I'm not sure, would have to investigate. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103494 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Compilation Tag causing Artist/Album Artist problems
The problem is that with some server versions a songinfo query will return a random artist for the main "artist" (track artist) field. Fror some reason that was not the case in the menus, only if you do a plain CLI query. IIRC you found the issue and fixed it in 7.9 but I'm not sure :) --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103494 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] How to use DoP/DSD in 7.9 as a player
I think I've sorted out getting transcoded DSD and raw DSD, what's still missing is DOP, even though I selected that setting. Maybe LMS never sends DOP if you say you support DSD natively. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106915 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8/7.9 Comet - 2 player status subscriptions on single comet connection.
First: you can only have one subscription for the same player and the same command/status (you can have several for different players). Your subscription #3 overrides/unsubscribes #2. I believe one reason for this is that in the past cometd unsubscribes didn't work in Squeezebox Server so this was the only way to change a subscription or get rid of it. And then: why in the world do you do the 1s subscription, that looks completely unnecessary to me. Why don't you just use a timer? If anything but the elapsed time changes while you are waiting for your 10s subscription you will still be notified. The only reason you need a certain interval is because of clock drift or in case of playback issues resetting the time but 10s should be more than enough for that --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106783 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] ***Squeezebox Controller FIX FOR ANDROID LOLLIPOP*** ...for everyone to re-enjoy!
So this probably just uninstalls the Chromium engine? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105419 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
And no, DACs don't uncompress FLAC. And no, the processing on the player side need not be higher, too. All myths. Plus, you could just decode on the server if it were true. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Bet. When do we do it? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Sonic Orbiter is VortexBox, btw --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 - Browse "remote" LMS music libraries
But remote library should still work if the main server is 7.9 And instead of browse library one could use bmf --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104818 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Web UI suggestion/enhancement
DJanGo wrote: > > Ahh i have plenty of Albums (manual tagged where one tracks has multiple > genres) like the 2014 Wham! Last Christmas limited Edition. I feel real > fine with the "old" behaviour I'm not sure that's really "old". You've got the same thing with Artists where you can also have several per track. The difference is that for artists there's the concept of an albumartist but there is no such thing as an albumgenre --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104867 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Web UI suggestion/enhancement
Oh, you mean all albums for a single Genre? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104867 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Web UI suggestion/enhancement
Ah, I never noticed that's missing in the web UI. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104867 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Web UI suggestion/enhancement
That's albums for a Genre (all albums containing at least one track from a certain genre), sorted by artist. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104867 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Web UI suggestion/enhancement
I doubt it. I looked at this for iPeng and the problem is that the server can't sort albums by genre. There is an additional issue: there is no genre tag for albums, the genre tag is applied per track. So if an album contains tracks with several different genres - quite common if you use automatic tagging - where do you show it? It's similar with artists but there you have the concept of an albumartist but there is no albumgenre --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104867 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Deep recursion in executeButton
Well, if you don't update your server there is no way to fix any bugs, isn't it? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30908 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 - Browse "remote" LMS music libraries
mherger wrote: > > Oops! No problem this morning album art displays for all tracks in the > > playlist. > > I think TinyLMS can get a bit stressed on those requests. I got mine to > reboot when I tried to reproduce your issue. Most likely it's a timeout > problem. I've made a note about optimizing artwork handling. We could > eg. always request the full size artwork from the remote server, then > resize it on our "local" LMS. I usually would prefer not to do this, as > most of the time the remote server would have the images pre-cached > already. But under certain circumstances it might still be faster. > > -- > > Michael I've seen the same thing with my Mac as the server, originally only artwork for albums that have also been p,aged were shown in the current playlist, artwork for other tracks was missing. Kind of like it is if you load a stored playlist with Spotify tracks, they load after a while. That said You updated ProtocolHandler.pm after the announcement, could that be related? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104818 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 - Browse "remote" LMS music libraries
mherger wrote: > > Just a short input: could this feature be extended to other remote > > non-LMS libraries like KODI or basically all UPnP libraries? > > UPnP browsing has been available "forever": check > Settings/Advanced/Networking. > > -- > > Michael But there are no menus for it, it's just in the web interface. I know a few people who would be pretty happy if there were menus for that, too, but this is a different topic... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104818 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 - Browse "remote" LMS music libraries
Welcome to the wonderful world of the UPnP-"standard"... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104818 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] one tablet can see the music folder, another the internet, neither both
So which of the Apps actually lets you control the Touch? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104735 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] one tablet can see the music folder, another the internet, neither both
Yes, we all understand what you can see. The question is: which App can actually control the player. Play something, change volume, things like that. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104735 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] one tablet can see the music folder, another the internet, neither both
The player is probably connected to MySqueezebox.com, that's why the Logi App finds it there. Try to move it under "My Music" on the Touch. To get radio menus in LMS you need to enter your MySb account credentials in settings in the server's web interface --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104735 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] one tablet can see the music folder, another the internet, neither both
Regarding switching from MySB to LMS I wrote "on the Touch", not in the web interface. But if the player settings in the web interface show your player information the your touch is actually connected to LMS, arme you sure the Logi App is connected to the same MySB account? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104735 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
mherger wrote: > >[15-11-26 14:49:56.6980] Slim::Utils::ImageResizer::sync_resize > (141) Error resizing > /Volumes/public/Media/Music/SXSW/SXSW_2005_Showcasing_Artists/Young_Heart_Attack-Misty_Rowe.mp3: > Can't resize unknown type, magic: "\20JFIF\0\1\2" > > Do you know how you embedded the artwork in that file? It seems as if > the embedded artwork has invalid magic bytes. JFIF/JPG should start with > > FF D8, followed by some more bytes before the JFIF bytes. > > But at least we no longer hang on such a file. > > -- > > Michael I didn't . It's from the SXSW artist previews so I downloaded it this way. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
That's local artwork and thumbnails, the format iPeng registers for creation during the scan (300x300_f) I assume the github version will do, too, for the test? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
mherger wrote: > > I've added a check to dump a backtrace should this happen. Of course your change did not only add a backtrace but also seem to actually have fixed the issue for me - the server now immediately returns (with no artwork, but at least it doesn't hang anymore). It still logs your backtrace: Code: [15-11-25 14:43:11.9621] Slim::Web::Graphics::__ANON__ (403) Artwork resize for music/eed0f40d/cover_300x300_f failed [15-11-25 14:43:11.9778] Slim::Music::Artwork::_imageContentType (374) Error: Can't discover content type for undefined data. [15-11-25 14:43:11.9782] Slim::Music::Artwork::_imageContentType (374) Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Utils::Log::logBacktrace (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Music/Artwork.pm line 374) frame 1: Slim::Music::Artwork::_imageContentType (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Web/Graphics.pm line 380) frame 2: Slim::Web::Graphics::__ANON__ (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Web/Graphics.pm line 441) frame 3: Slim::Web::Graphics::__ANON__ (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Utils/ImageResizer.pm line 144) frame 4: Slim::Utils::ImageResizer::sync_resize (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Utils/ImageResizer.pm line 115) frame 5: Slim::Utils::ImageResizer::resize (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Web/Graphics.pm line 442) frame 6: Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm line 1153) frame 7: Slim::Web::HTTP::generateHTTPResponse (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm line 879) frame 8: Slim::Web::HTTP::processURL (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm line 683) frame 9: Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 123) frame 10: (eval) (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 119) frame 11: Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 168) frame 12: (eval) (/Users/.../slimserver/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 168) frame 13: Slim::Networking::IO::Select::loop (./slimserver.pl line 735) frame 14: main::idle (./slimserver.pl line 685) frame 15: main::main (./slimserver.pl line 1223) --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
I'm having an issue where artwork loading (retrieving thumbnails) from the server can sometimes stall. When that happens then for a minute or so I don't get any artwork from the server anymore. It probably times out then and that's when new artwork requests start to succeed again. The log always says something like this when it happens: Code: Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (131) Error: Select task failed calling Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP: Can't use an undefined value as a SCALAR reference at /Users/../slimserver/Slim/Music/Artwork.pm line 375. ; fh=Slim::Web::HTTP::ClientConn=GLOB(0x7fdc0c5648b8) --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] cover art problem in LMS 7.9
So you think changing the order of precedence could help? Still I think it's a bug to not find the artwork for the track id. A bug that only LMS 7.9 shows. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104496 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] cover art problem in LMS 7.9
mherger wrote: > > That should be "coverid" rather than "coverart", right? If so: > Actually no. It's "id" whenever "coverart=1". I think "coverid" only got introduced with some recent server version and is not backwards-compatible. Shouldn't the two be the same? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104496 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] cover art problem in LMS 7.9
mherger wrote: > Yes, it does so, because it doesn't find that cover ID in the database. > > This could happen if you were sending an outdated ID (stale cache > somehow?) as part of the URL. > No cache. This is the big cover art which is requested straight from the player status. Nothing gets cached here on the iPeng side. Also this only happens with 7.9 Now, iPeng has a bit of logic on which information to use for the cover and there might have been changes across server versions, the player status sometimes has redundant artwork information. It might be good to see the actual player status message, too, but the logging gets _very_ verbose if one does that. I'll ask DJanGo via mail, too. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104496 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] cover art problem in LMS 7.9
Here's iPeng's order of precedence for what to use for the artwork: 1. "coverart" field in the server status with "/music//cover". I think that's what we are seeing here. iPeng uses the field without interpreting it, just as it comes from the server (no numerical conversion or something). 2. If that's not present, it uses "artwork_track_id", same path 3. If that's not present, too, iPeng uses "artwork_url" as the full URL to be used without further processing. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104496 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] cover art problem in LMS 7.9
OK, thanks! Now that explains why it hits so few users and why it's so well reproducible for them. I'll do a beta with the changed lookup order so that people who never update the server get a fix, too. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104496 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] cover art problem in LMS 7.9
dcteal wrote:
> I ran the test that mherger described above. Attached is the server.log
> file.
>
Here it is... Two commas or dots in the track ID?
Code:
[
{
channel => "/c0080759/slim/playerstatus/00:04:20:05:78:f8",
data => {
can_seek => 1,
duration => "240.306",
"mixer bass" => 50,
"mixer pitch" => 100,
"mixer treble" => 50,
"mixer volume" => 95,
mode => "pause",
player_connected => 1,
player_ip => "10.99.10.6:35973",
player_name => "Squeezebox 2",
"playlist mode" => "off",
"playlist repeat" => 1,
"playlist shuffle" => 0,
playlist_cur_index => 2,
playlist_loop => [
{
# tied Tie::IxHash
album => "Night Visions",
artist => "Imagine Dragons",
artwork_track_id => "8363eb77",
band => "Imagine Dragons",
coverart => 1,
coverid => "8363eb77",
duration => "240.306",
id => 12_085_367,
"playlist index" => 2,
title => "It's Time",
type => "mp3",
url =>
"file:///share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/Media/Music/AQS/I/Imagine%20Dragons/Imagine%20Dragons%20-%202012%20-%20Night%20Visions/Imagine%20Dragons%20-%20Night%20Visions%20-%2003%20-%20It%27s%20Time.mp3",
},
],
playlist_timestamp => "1446560947.81684",
playlist_tracks => 11,
power => 1,
rate => 1,
seq_no => 0,
showBriefly => ["Paused (3 of 11) ", "It's Time"],
signalstrength => 0,
"time" => "44.8775435684647",
},
ext => { priority => "" },
id => 404,
},
]
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] cover art problem in LMS 7.9
mherger wrote: > > An interesting read. I'd uninstall IckStream and SongInfo, because they > spill your log file with failure errors anyway. Then come back with a > description of the problem you need help with. > Michael, I find the end of the log file relevant and not spilled. I might be wrong but to me this looks like the server returns the "empty CD case" image _before_ it tries to extract the correct artwork from the tags of the audio file. This may be the reason why this works for cached thumbnails but not the unaltered image iPeng requests. Am I right to assume that the unaltered images are not stored in the database? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104496 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] cover art problem in LMS 7.9
I remember we had this issue with the server not returning the unscaled files but only the thumbnails a few times before but I don't remember what the exact cause and fix was. I thought cleaning the artwork cache but the OP seems to have done that. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104496 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Feature Request: Make Disc Number a Selection Criterium
mherger wrote: > > Because then you clutter your album list with multiple instances of an > > album. Also, you might want an option to still easily play all. Which > > the API would still have by simply omitting the CD number. > > Is this the main use-case: to be able to play a single disc out of a > disc set? What else? > > TBH: I have no idea how complicated this could/would be. I first need to > > understand what you'd like to do. > > -- > > Michael It's not the main use case, it's probably the only use case :) The thing with the context menu is just a variety and some eye candy, right now the context menu always claims that you are looking at the last disc of the set which can of course be confusing but is just a detail. Some people also play albums through the context menu and that would alway still play the whole album without a change but then all the SqueezePlay menus don't know individual discs in multiple-disc sets anyway. I could live with just an extension to the "playlistcontrol" CLI command but that would mean only Apps like iPeng that have their own play logic (probably also OrangeSqueeze or SqueezeCtrl) can use it while the ones like yours or SqueezePad which completely rely on the menus will only know albums but then they don't have menus for the individual discs anyway because these are not in the menu system. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=10 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Feature Request: Make Disc Number a Selection Criterium
Because then you clutter your album list with multiple instances of an album. Also, you might want an option to still easily play all. Which the API would still have by simply omitting the CD number. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=10 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Feature Request: Make Disc Number a Selection Criterium
This is not super-urgent but would still make for a nice addition IMHO. I made a change to iPeng that will make it show individual discs of multi-disc albums. What this means is: if you have set your server to group multi-disc albums together (if you don't, the discs are separate albums) then iPeng will show headers identifying disc 1 and disc 2. I can do this because the server knows the disc number and returns it when queried. Fine. What you can not do is filter based on the disc number. So I can't, for example, only request disc 1 or get a context menu only for disc 1. The bummer is that you also can't use it to selectively play. I know this is probably one of these cases where 50% of the people want one behavior and 50% want a different one but it would be nice if it was even possible to only play one of the two discs. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=10 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Wanted: Testers for new Spotify implementation
Triode's plugin works with all devices --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104145 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] "Artists" menu missing from SB Touch display
Michael, in the Logitech forum he wrote that smartphone Apps show the menu, just the Touch doesn't @DaveCochrane1 please give all information you gave there. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104264 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Wanted: Testers for new Spotify implementation
Ah, and it works with the iPeng beta, apparently? I was wondering whether that MySB-Switch still worked... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104145 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Just discovered 7.9 Have Questions
I believe at least in the past iTunes would down convert ALAC to 16 bits, doesn't it? LMS should tell you in the file properties. Oh, and I believe you have to turn off native support for ALC on the Touch because that, too, might only support 16 Bit ALAC --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104025 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Any LMS 7.9 Rhapsody/Napster users out there?
So this is for Radio/Touch, correct? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103792 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] No more nightlies?
Holiday season :) there's already another thread on this --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103554 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Bug: Track ordering and disc number tag
Umm... Sorry but I don't concur. this is not the 80s anymore, how the UX of a system behaves must not be defined by its database design. You may want to adapt the database design to make implementation of your intended UX easier or even astilbe at all but in no cases do you do a certain broken UX just because that's how your database works. One simply doesn't do that. At least not on systems that are supposed to jot totally suck. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103476 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Bug: Track ordering and disc number tag
You didn't but atrrocity just above you did :) The problem is not that it's a huge issue when I see a wrong order - I can just as well fix the tags. The problem is when I _don't_ see it. Probably in a lot of cases. The underlying issue is a severe problem with iTunes: it sometimes mixes up tags from two different sources and then there is a different tagging scheme from some of your tracks (in one album) compared to the others. While it's clearly an iTunes issue I don't have a good solution (short of manually re-tagging) since I literally haven't found a usable ripping software under OSX yet. Since probably the majority of Squeezebox users (as opposed to the majority of people discussing tagging on this forum) is using iTunes I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with this problem. Treating no disc info and 1/1 as equivalent would fix it probably in 95% of all cases. This is how a good product should work. It should not try to tell the user what he might have done wrong (don't use iTunes, re-tag,...), it should just solve the fricking problem, especially when it comes at no cost for other users (again: I don't think there are a lot of people using this actively, if any at all). --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103476 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Bug: Track ordering and disc number tag
You also could, for example, have different rows for sorting and for the actual display of information. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103476 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Bug: Track ordering and disc number tag
The file naming doesn't help. My file names are all correct. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103476 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] --nomysqueezebox: disable all mysb.comintegration in LMS 7.9
Hm, I believe that's also how I switch players between servers in iPeng, other Apps probably do the same, so it should stay available... Need to find a way to test this. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103210 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] --nomysqueezebox: disable all mysb.comintegration in LMS 7.9
PasTim wrote: If and when mysb.com disappears, there is an issue for Touch radio users. If one is running tinyLMS off a USB stick or SD card (ie no main LMS server) there seems to be no way of entering a radio URL. With mysb.com one can enter a URL in a favourite there, then select and add it to the local favourites. Without it one is, as far as I can determine, lost. Hm, I think this would still work from iPeng so maybe some other controller Apps could implement it, too, when the time comes :) I don't think it's a general limitation, there's just no UI a for it. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103210 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] --nomysqueezebox: disable all mysb.comintegration in LMS 7.9
mherger wrote: Am 28.02.15 um 15:41 schrieb pippin: Is the My Apps menu going away? That would be an unnecessary hit to a lot of 3rd party plugins. To many of my plugins rely on that menu option, too. No, it should stay. There was an issue with the web UI after the first merge of this change, but this should be fixed by now. Are you no longer seeing it? In which UI? Nothing I am seeing but PasTim referred to changes required that implied it was no longer there. Like having to move BBC iPlayer to Radios. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103210 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] --nomysqueezebox: disable all mysb.comintegration in LMS 7.9
woodster wrote: Have tried ickstream, but this is an online service as well, that might get shut down. It could be nice if the native apps e.g wimp could be run from the local lms. I have my local music, but can't avoid using online streaming, and need to be sure to have a long term solution. I believe to a certain degree that misses the point. Sure, the ickStream online service needs to be available but face it: the biggest issue is that you need someone to permanently maintain these implementations or they will quickly break. Just have a look at the YouTube plugin, SqueezeCloud plugin etc. And that requirement doesn't go away with an implementation in a local plugin. Someone needs to work on these things on a regular base, that's the restriction. Just look at how much work it currently is to migrate iPlayer to the new protocols used by the BBC. WiMP also completely changed their protocol years ago and the Logitech implementation still uses the old one AFAIK, if WiMP ever shuts that down it would require a complete rewrite, too. For a local plugin one could argue that others than the original author could take over and in some cases this has worked but especially YouTube is a good example of a case where it clearly didn't. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103210 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] --nomysqueezebox: disable all mysb.comintegration in LMS 7.9
Is the My Apps menu going away? That would be an unnecessary hit to a lot of 3rd party plugins. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103210 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] --nomysqueezebox: disable all mysb.comintegration in LMS 7.9
Ah. Good. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103210 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] --nomysqueezebox: disable all mysb.comintegration in LMS 7.9
Cool, I know about a few people who will love to see this. One question remaining: how is plugin installation handled? Are you supposed to add all plugin repos manually? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103210 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
mherger wrote: On a very related note: are you updating the metadata shown in the playlist view as soon as a track is being played? Yes. I did mention it in the iPeng thread but probably not in this one. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
Thanks! --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
mherger wrote: What's the full query you're using? The one for just main artist I use in playlists (the one that returns a wrong artist) is Code: status 0 100 tags:uBjJKlaxdecN The one I use for the Player status and NowPlaying screen including all artist roles (the one that works correctly) is Code: status - 1 tags:uBJjdKlaAxcNo The latter also is a subscription, the former a request, don't know whether that makes any difference. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
No, the second one. The first one is what I use but it returns wrong results :) --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
BTW: this post http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?51929-iPeng-support-threadp=807478viewfull=1#post807478 shows that the problem is not limited to the player status query but also happens when requesting a track list (for an album). The relevant query I use there is: Code: titles 0 100 sort:tracknum tags:Aaltedio album_id: Interesting here is that the wrong artists obviously gets picked even though in this case I _do_ request all artist roles. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9 Problems/Bugs
Another one... There's a problem with artist roles in the player status. I often get the composer instead of the track artist or the album artist in the main artist field. What I'm seeing is that whenever iPeng doesn't request _all_ artist roles but just the main artist role (a in the tag list) that artist role often contains the composer. No idea, why, but probably dependent on how you browsed to a track first or something. When I request _all_ artist roles (A in the tag list) the albumartist or trackartist is usually what shows up in the main artist role. So the content of the artist field actually changes based on whether I request one artist or all artist roles. Requesting all artist roles makes retrieving long playlists unacceptably slow so this is something that really deserves fixing More detail is in the iPeng thread starting here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?51929-iPeng-support-threadp=806839viewfull=1#post806839 --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101516 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
hm, lengthy discussion Maybe, but not with me. I don't really care a lot _how_ it works as long as it's consistent. I only store local items in favorites for testing and did a lot of that when recently implementing the favorites editing for iPeng, that's how I ran into it. I feel handling of artists in favorites in general is problematic, they are being stored as a playlist, something they clearly aren't so that's probably the reason for the inconsistent behavior. I've got a much bigger issue with Favorites right now that's probably unrelated and deserves it's own bug: if you use a large playback buffer (like iPeng does, although I've experiences it on an SB3, too), then when playing the whole list of favorites the player can get in some kind of weird state where it seems to mix two streams (with proxied streaming) so that you end up playing one frame from a file, then another one from a radio station and so on... Now THAT is scary... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9: another schema change is coming, causing a rescan
Since the latest update I'm having an issue at least with incremental scans, they never complete but eventually bail (at different points) with such a log entry: Code: main::main (346) Error: Failed when running scan post-process: [Carp::Clan::__ANON__(): Carp::Clan::__ANON__(): DBI Exception: DBD::SQLite::st execute failed: database is locked [for Statement SELECT me.id, me.name, me.namesort, me.musicmagic_mixable, me.namesearch, me.musicbrainz_id FROM contributors me WHERE ( me.id = ? )] at /Users//Daten/Business/Dev/iPhone/Source/Libs/SqueezUE/slimserver/Slim/Schema/Storage.pm line 126 ] --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102970 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.9: another schema change is coming, causing a rescan
OK, the error only seems to happen if you use the server while scanning (e.g. browse the library or such). Looks like some locks go the wrong way... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102970 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
And another edge case... Favorites. If you add stuff to favorites and this is not part of a certain library, it will still be shown even with the library filter on, at least for tracks and albums and intermediate levels for artists (didn't try genres). So, if - there are tracks in favorites which are not part of the active library, they will still be shown and can be played. - there are albums in favorites which are not part of the active library, they will still be shown and can be played. They can also be opened and the tracks will show and can be played. - there are artists in favorites which have albums which are not part of the active library, these albums will be shown when the artist is being opened from favorites. However, these albums can not be played and if they are opened, they are empty. Now, while I think all of this is wrong and they should be filtered, there is some specific aspect to be considered If I add something to favorites from an additional browse mode which is not part of the library (a children's music album, for example), _should_ that be shown? I think no because - there is no logic I could think of that would determine how to tell apart items that should or should not be shown by such a logic. - the idea of the additional browse modes overriding the library was to _only_ override it in these specific menus, Favorites, however, is outside these specific menus. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Standard Search results
That said: it's just as weird to search for a category, usually with a full-text search you would expect a result-agnostic search returning all kind of results and then maybe a way to filter what you get. No need for 27 different search boxes in a UI, one would be just fine... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103008 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Standard Search results
Philip Meyer wrote: I'm not convinced I like it too much, TBH. A useful feature to have, but not as the default for Albums search. Sure _you_ are not convinced. But believe me, those other 99.9% of users out there just cried crap for the last 6 years because Squeezebox did anything other than full-text search. It's always difficult to change habits when one's got used to something but that doesn't change the fact that some things _have_ to change. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103008 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Standard Search results
Hm, interesting thing about Love. Does that mean the band Love is never going to be found or did I misunderstand something? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103008 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Standard Search results
Kind of remember these kind of issues from the infamous The The bug in iPeng 1.0.1 (iPeng 1.0 at the time did already contain special handling for The The but 1.0.1 re-introduced a bug that crashed the App if you had an album by The The and the App Store comments still have some references to that plus it got me into some nice discussions with Sonos fanboys at the time...) --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103008 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Standard Search results
Philip Meyer wrote: I can't remember it being mentioned in the forum or bugzilla before. It's been mentioned in the forums, it ranks under the top 10 feature requests I get for iPeng and - most importantly - it's probably the #1 argument of people telling me what a crappy, outdated system the Squeezebox system is. And yes, there are such people. A lot of them. Probably not on this forum, because why would they come here. But people out there outside this forum use things like Spotify, Google Music, Amazon, SoundCloud, YouTube etc. and they are used to quite different standards than a search logic devised a decade ago. If matching album titles appear at the top of the list before albums with only song matches, then it shouldn't detract as much as it is right now, it's just that I won't benefit 95% of the time by the extra hits in the results. I can live with that. Well, I assume you've read my and Michael's comments above: sure it should be like that. But it doesn't quite seem to hang together and seems inconsistent with offering a type of thing to search for, some being full text, and others not. That, too, was also my point above. It would seem better to me to do it similar to other websites and applications. By default Search All, but provide a Search Artists, Albums, or Songs that only searches the respective titles. That's the Advanced Search, isn't it? Sure, that can get as complex, detailed, and specific as it wants to be, that's what it's for. Also, filters should be applied. That's probably how the search _should_ look like: you enter one term and immediately get fulltext results and if that's not what you are looking for you can apply filters to limit it to certain categories. That's what iTunes does, for example. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103008 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Standard Search results
I think Michael will have to comment on the rules for sorting the results. That's usually the complicated aspect of full text search, getting the sorting right. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103008 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Standard Search results
Philip Meyer wrote: In the example given for searching hurry love supremes such that Phil Collins doesn't come up, what's the harm of searching for hurry love... For the third time: you are still arguing implementation details of something that is in alpha state at best against a principal concept. It's the last time I'm going to participate in it, it leads nowhere. It's like you can never fly across an ocean, that plane the wright brothers built came down after less than a mile. Well SoundCloud doesn't have albums, etc. It does have artists and named playlists which are used by a lot of artists to represent albums. And no, it does not just have a flat list of songs per user account. Also, SoundCloud was _one_ of my 5 or 6 examples which were already, well, just examples. There can't be life in this solar system, I looked at that planet called Mercury and it doesn't even have an atmosphere! No. That's only available in web UI Again, you are talking the current implementation... I don't need to find across all types of entities and then filter the larger list down, I already know what I'm looking for. Yep, but it's still more clicks to go there if you need to go to My Music-Search-Search for Albums than if you go to Search and if you get too many results than select a filter Albums. That's rather fiddly on different interfaces. eg. SB2 with IR remote. Why? You could even put the filters on shortcuts and it's a single press of a button. Still faster than browsing to the specific search menu first. Also, IR remotes and single-line displays are exactly the kind of stuff people refer to when talking about a crappy, outdated system. I know you like it that way but don't assume everybody else does. But in iTunes, I still search for a specific artist, album or song title, less results returned, and I find what I specifically want quicker. Hm, but that's exactly the logic you didn't like above. In iTunes, searching for albums is always a filter. It doesn't have an Search Albums menu or something, it only has a single search field where you can apply filters. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103008 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Standard Search results
Is this the full text search in 7.9? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103008 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Trivial 7.9 webUI defect
mherger wrote: Yeah, I have seen that before... I think it depends (as so often with encoding issues) on various factors which I haven't figured out yet... Good luck with that. We've had a horrible time with that recently with the ickStream plugin, e.g. when trying to send player names over JSON. Some of the encoder functions break when you supply accented characters, some break when you supply apostrophes and some behave differently when you call them the first time after the server has been restarted (sic!). My Mac's library name, which contains an accented character is also showing notoriously wrong in the Mac's preference pane, however often I change it (in the same pane). And some results you get in JSON are double- or even tripe URL-encoded. UTF-8 encoding and URL encoding is really broken in LMS. Probably due to the virtues of having to make it work with Windows XP and other OSs who just can't get this stuff right --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102967 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
mherger wrote: The problem here is the lack of standardization and localization. Speech, spoken, Hörspiel, Hörbuch, etc. I've had them all. (and that's one of the few reasons why I would re-tag some files: to reduce the number of mostly redundant genres) Yep. Same here. I didn't say that it isn't a challenge. TEN doesn't track and analyze genres, don't they? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
@marco Hint: don't edit your posts if you want Michael to see them! --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
You can build much more flexible menus using CustomBrowse but most plugins would not respect the filter, I end up with duplicate menus, not all context menu items will work, search will not respect the filters,... Also, the CBR menus don't work as well in iPeng because they don't have content-aware CLI, I can show less information for albums and tracks, it can't be fully cached, there are a lot of reasons why it doesn't work as well for me. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
You mean libraries? Why not? I do and I'd definitely not be willing to re-tag my 25K files for it. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
It covers 95% and I don't care about the rest. It also works with stock LMS 7.9 now.. Actually I do have a license for Erland's plugins and that's what I've been using for years but I'd like to replace them with 7.9 eventually because that can more easily filter the whole library across all functionality, beyond what CustomBrowse supports. I still feel that for a lot of users a more simple UI with e.g predefined filters would be quite useful, not everybody wants to create a complex filter using advanced search. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
For me it's genre. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
marcoc1712 wrote: 5. My suggestion was here just becouse I think is the more flexible and less costing mods could be done in LMS to enable people use this great functionality without the needs of complex UI or plugins, since every logic will be defined and applied outside LMS. It's OK, will probably work well for you and if Michael or someone else wants to implement it, there's no problem with that. All I'm saying is that for most people this won't solve anything. From what I'm seeing from the iPeng user requests I'm pretty confident that 90% of all Squeezebox users have never edited their tags. A lot of them have never heard of Foobar and some of them (like me) don't even use Windows! These users download music from iTunes or rip it with iTunes (or whatever else their OS or phone came with) and all the tagging they will ever do is what Gracenote, CDDB, iTunes or whatever else in in the backend delivers as their tags. And then there are some like myself who sometime edit some tags upon scanning but never again because they just won't bother about having every last detail in the tagging right. For all of these people your solution won't help. But at the same time, for most of those users a solution based on advanced search won't help because they won't want to learn how that works, too (I had to collect probably two dozen Genres to get that stuff right for me). For this majority of users a good solution is probably a plugin that comes with a set of predefined filters with a simple UI. No children's music. No speech. Classical Music only,... Stuff like that. This is the challenge that will make a lot of users happy. Wy it should take few minutes in LMS and days in Foobar? Because I can set up the query through advanced search in LMS. I don't use Foobar. I don't use Windows. My Music is not on an SMB share. It will easily take a day until I can get such a setup working. And I have no idea how to batch-tag in iTunes. And I don't plan to find out about it (I'm sure there are some Apple Scripts for that). LMS is the place where it's used, if it should be a solution for most users, it will have to work out of the box with whatever automatic taggers deliver. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
marcoc1712 wrote: users will accomplish this with the tagging applications they are used to Err... 99% of all users will use auto-tagging with iTunes or Windows and have no idea how to change their tags. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
Thank you!!! That's a dramatic change in performance! BTW: not only for this particular case, all other Albums queries also seem to be dramatically faster now, I think people will love this :) The 17K vs. 26K is full vs. filtered library. Settings-Information shows the size of the active library (maybe it should show both sizes?) and since you can't really easily see which player you have selected in Settings I had selected one with a filtered library. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
mherger wrote: Then you should probably write what you're talking about :-P. Because you wrote: Artists-All Albums is fast for me, too, it's Album Artists-All Artists that is slow. Umm, yep. That was wrong, sorry. But there definitely is no Album Artists-All Artists menu (what would it show?) and in the initial post I wrote A good example is Album Artists - still OK. But opening All Albums for Album Artists makes it really slow, something like 6-7 minutes only to load the album list (1K Albums). All confusion over. And I can only repeat what I wrote in my first response: no problem here. Loads instantly in iPeng (a few seconds in the web UI due to slow rendering). And you did switch the library to All Library, then opened Album Artists-All Albums, loaded the menu (completely, until even Z is shown), then switched to the filtered library and opened both Albums Artists (the root menu) and All Albums from there again to reproduce it? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
mherger wrote: Select a library on your player. Check the web UI: it's using the same library. Check iPeng: using the same. Change in iPeng (while controlling that player). Check other UIs again: all using the same library. In my understanding that's per-player, not per controller. Ah, you're probably right. I think iPeng currently doesn't always identify the change correctly when it's not being done from iPeng. Could it be that the player status doesn't send a notification when the library_id changes? In that case ipeng would only learn about the change when the next regular update comes in. Will investigate. BTW: It would be really good if the Library Views menu could somehow indicate the currently active library. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
mherger wrote: Is this about right? Yes. Confirmed: I can't play Pippi Langstrumpf in Taka Tuka Land, but I can play all its tracks from the kids' menu. Correct? Again: yes. Hmm... I'm not sure I fully understand the issue, can't reproduce it. I've enabled the no kids music library as the default view. Then I browse Artists - All Albums. Takes about two seconds in the web UI, less than a second in iPeng. I tried both, the unified list as well as the separate Album Artist/All Artists lists. ... Can you check the resources to figure out whether it's memory, disk IO or CPU bound? Artists-All Albums is fast for me, too, it's Album Artists-All Artists that is slow. It's CPU (one core maxed out for the whole time of the query). All other figures are low (176 MB RAM, very little disc IO to my flash drive...) Subsequent queries of the same page are much, much faster and consume less CPU although still slower than Artists-All Albums, it seems to be primarily the first load after selecting the filtered library (in Library Views) that is so extremely slow (stays slow until I have completely loaded the list at least once). So to reproduce it you might have to switch your libraries. BTW, after switching libraries Album Artists-All Albums is slow even with the unfiltered library, albeit not as extreme as for the filtered one. The query is Code: [15-01-13 13:20:14.0735] Slim::Control::Queries::albumsQuery (671) Albums query: SELECT albums.discc AS 'albums.discc', contributors.name AS 'contributors.name', contributors.namesort AS 'contributors.namesort', albums.disc AS 'albums.disc', albums.titlesort AS 'albums.titlesort', albums.titlesearch AS 'albums.titlesearch', albums.contributor AS 'albums.contributor', albums.id AS 'albums.id', albums.title AS 'albums.title', albums.artwork AS 'albums.artwork', albums.compilation AS 'albums.compilation', albums.year AS 'albums.year' FROM albums JOIN contributor_album ON contributor_album.album = albums.id JOIN contributors ON contributors.id = contributor_album.contributor JOIN tracks ON tracks.album = albums.id JOIN library_track ON library_track.track = tracks.id WHERE contributor_album.role IN (?, ?) AND library_track.library = ? GROUP BY albums.id ORDER BY contributors.namesort COLLATE en_US , albums.year, albums.titlesort COLLATE en_US LIMIT ?,? / [5, 1, 9e75b8cb, 10 0, 100] This seems to be the Album Artists query, which is not as slow: Code: [15-01-13 13:18:13.4218] Slim::Control::Queries::artistsQuery (1130) Artists query: SELECT contributors.id, contributors.name, contributors.namesort FROM contributors JOIN contributor_album ON contributor_album.contributor = contributors.id WHERE contributors.id IN ( SELECT DISTINCT contributor_track.contributor FROM contributor_track WHERE (contributor_track.role IN (5,1,4,2,3,6) ) AND contributor_track.track IN ( SELECT library_track.track FROM library_track WHERE library_track.library = ? ) ) GROUP BY contributors.id ORDER BY contributors.namesort COLLATE en_US LIMIT ?,? / [9e75b8cb, 6600, 500] There's also the occasional one of these in there: Code: [15-01-13 13:21:38.7187] Slim::Schema::Debug::query_start (23) SELECT me.id, me.type, me.name, me.active, me.total, me.done, me.start, me.finish, me.info FROM progress me WHERE ( type = ? ) ORDER BY start,id: 'importer' don't think they are related, though. My Music settings: 17148 +---+ |Filename: settings.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17148| +---+ --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Multi Library support in LMS 7.9
One additional info on the latest comment (the one about it working/not working in iPeng): you are aware (hey, you wrote this, so you should...) that the library filter is per-client, so if you select a library view in the web interface, iPeng still might use the whole, unfiltered library until you switch to the filtered one there, too. This is of course how it's supposed to work because it's what allows you to show your library _without_ kids music for you while _only_ showing kids music for your kids. If you have e.g. an iPeng beta and an iPeng App Store version on the same device these, too, will be different clients (at least since iOS 7) because iOS doesn't allow re-use or sharing of device IDs anymore. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101701 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
