RE: An effort to make cold fusion 8 standard edition more efficie nt
IIS supports compression, but it's a PITA to configure. Of course MS doesn't provide any sort of GUI for this and you have to edit their xml file... Actually you don't, if you want to use IIS compression, there is a plugin called HttpZip by Port80. It's a GUI plugin to manage the IIS settings for this. http://www.port80software.com/products/httpzip/ They also have several other tools for IIS configurations. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: An effort to make cold fusion 8 standard edition more efficie nt IIS supports compression, but it's a PITA to configure. Of course MS doesn't provide any sort of GUI for this and you have to edit their xml file... Apache also supports compression and is much easier to configure. FusionReactor supports compression as well for CF content. Russ -Original Message- From: Don L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: An effort to make cold fusion 8 standard edition more efficie nt Thanks for the idea, Dave, unfortunately my version of the web server does not seem to support compression, oddly it has a dll for compression... I'll probably need to do more research... Don Yes, if your web server is configured to gzip static files, these files will be gzipped. All CF does is write the SCRIPT tags that reference the .js files. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300147 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: The unofficial ahphosting status thread
If any one who is a AHP Hosting customer that is facing these problems. Please feel free to email me off list. FusionLink is happy to help provide additional and /or new hosting services. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Terry Schmitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: The unofficial ahphosting status thread I've been totally dead since 4:30pm EST. I just finished setting up new DNS servers and moved my email to a email hosting company... 5 days without email was my limit. I can't get into anything right now... Rick ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299661 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: JRun maxing out?
For CF76 use seeFusion or Fusion-Reactor. http://www.fusion-reactor.com/ http://www.seefusion.com Do not start playing around with the JVM settings until you find exactly what the problem is. Most problems are code related and can be safely fixed there. Only after looking at the code and the issue indepth, do you move up to the JVM side of things. For example, if you have a memory leak happening. Moving the JVM heap size up, will do absolutely nothing for you and can actually make things worse. Now that being said, if this machine has been running for a couple of years, I'm suspecting your on CF7 with the default JVM that it came with? Adobe last year asked people to upgrade that JVM to at least 1.4.2_11 because of the DST changes. Naturally the newer JVM will speed CF7 a bit. Fix your problem forst though before doing this. For information on how to properly do this. Go to.. http://labs.fusionlink.com/katapult/index.cfm?page=articles/daylightsavings John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Michael Muller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: JRun maxing out? Every once in a while my server's CPUs go nuts. Normally they hang around 0%, 1%, 2%, 13%, 22%, 5%, 1%, etc. Then, maybe once a week or every few days, they jump to like 85% and just stay there, bouncing between 80% and 95%. The box is pretty much unusable. Just a couple of days ago I was watching while it was in this state and suddenly it flattened at 100%. I'm wondering if this is JRun maxing out? Do I have code somewhere that pegs the server for ten minutes at a time, or could the server be moving large files around (there is about 450GB of files on a 500GB drive, about 10% of which is 1GB+ sized files). The box was stable for over two years, and now it's doing this fairly frequently. Is there a tool I can install to see what's going on during these events? Has anyone else experienced this kind of behaviour? Mik Michael Muller Muller Technologies 24 3rd Street Turners Falls, MA 01376 work: (413) 863-0030 cell: (413) 320-5336 skype: michaelBmuller http://support.MullerTech.com Eschew Obfuscation ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:298580 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Apache and CF7
learning PHP to increase my marketability Just a thought here. When there are thousands of cheap PHP programmers running around looking for projects. I would think your return on investment in learning PHP is going to be very small. Learning something that is growing and the demand is already outpacing the number of coders means you ROI would be far larger. May I suggest learning Flex and AIR instead. You can get far more bang for your time with this. Plus if you already know CF, this is all in the family so-to-speak. On the Apache/PHP setup, unless you are learning to be a Sys admin. I would just download a prepared VM appliance that already has everything setup for you. No reason to lose more hair over this :) Here's one called LAMP (Linux,Apache,MySQL,PHP) http://virtualappliances.net/products/lamp.php The wwwroot is open to Microsoft folder sharing. So you can simply run this appliance and write the PHP files over the share directory. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Phillip M. Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Apache and CF7 After trying to redo my CF 7 set up with apache (because I also want to start learning PHP to increase my marketability, I have this error. == The Apache service named reported the following error: httpd.exe: Syntax error on line 485 of C:/Program Files/Apache Software Foundation/Apache2.2/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load C:/CFusionMX7/runtime/lib/wsconfig/1/mod_jrun20.so into server: The specified procedure could not be found. == I added this to the httpd.conf at the end and yes, I verified the file is there. == # JRun Settings LoadModule jrun_module c:/CFusionMX7/runtime/lib/wsconfig/1/mod_jrun20.so IfModule mod_jrun.c JRunConfig Verbose false JRunConfig Apialloc false JRunConfig Ssl false JRunConfig IgnoreSuffixmap false JRunConfig Serverstore c:/CFusionMX7/runtime/lib/wsconfig/1/jrunserver.store JRunConfig Bootstrap 127.0.0.1:51000 #JRunConfig Errorurl optionally redirect to this URL on errors JRunConfig jrun-handler .jsp .jws .cfm .cfml .cfc .cfswf .cfr /IfModule == When I try to go to the page, I get a download box to download the cfm file. Most likely because I couldn't get this active to reconize the cfm file to process via the jrun server. So my apache won't even start up now and I'm going bald.. Any ideas on what could be causing the trouble and how to fix it? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:298588 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Apache and CF7
Well it should get you closer (more than half way there). Start with the VM that has a stable version of Apache and PHP running then install CF on it. Should be easier for you. Once you have everything running - make a copy of the VM for safe keeping in case in the future things get messed up. On the job stuff, the PHP world is just over populated in my neck of the woods it may be different where you're at. With CF/Flex/AIR, the competition is far less and I can pretty much name my price. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Phillip M. Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Apache and CF7 John Mason wrote: learning PHP to increase my marketability Just a thought here. When there are thousands of cheap PHP programmers running around looking for projects. I would think your return on investment in learning PHP is going to be very small. Well, it seems that there are several PHP jobs out there and very few jobs for straight CF developers (at least, those who haven't upgraded their skillset with Flex and so on). I'd rather have a small pay job then nothing. But I understand what you are saying. I'll check out Flex and start learning that as well. Still doesn't help me with CF not working on apache. :) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:298593 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Paperthin's Commonspot
-Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Paperthin's Commonspot For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of support issues). -- Just because something is open source doesn't mean there isn't a company or nonprofit group supporting it. Open source also doesn't mean free either. For example, Flex is open source and yet Adobe fully supports it. Just to make that clear, because many people confuse the open source world and the aspects of it. FarCry is open source but you will see lots of companies like Figleaf and others fully supporting it down to training,etc. Most federal agencies need a reality check anyway, but that's another discussion altogether. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297869 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Adobe ColdFusion IDE survey
the consensus seemed to be that a CF IDE needs to either be Eclipse based (aligned well with Flex Builder and more) or Dreamweaver based (or possibly both) My vote is Eclipse. I never liked DW and used CFS from it's start but quickly switched to CFEclipse when it came about. CFEclipse needs a design view to help those people that like the WYSIWYG look and feel, but other than that it's a great IDE. Upgrading DW or CFS is simply crazy in light of Delphi. That has been a long standing problem and Macromedia never wanted to address it. It's simply time for these IDEs to die off. We are, as programmers, 'creatures of habit' but change is a good thing. It's time to move on. There will also be diehards in this, but I think Adobe needs to make a decision and clear this up once and for all. Eclipse has a broader range support base. With Flex/AIR using Eclipse it makes for a nice standard IDE for all these Adobe technologies. I'm also assuming Adobe has some very experience Eclipse guys now. Given the cool features in FB3, I could only assume Adobe could make CFEclipse even better. It would be great if it were free, but frankly I make money with CF development so I would have no problem paying a fair price for an IDE specially if it helps keep the server pricing down. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:296191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ColdFusion LMS Systems
Echo11 has a SCORM LMS in ColdFusion. There url is echoeleven.com John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion LMS Systems Is anybody familiar with any SCORM Learning Management Systems (LMS) that are built in ColdFusion? I'm not familiar with any. I'd recommend that you take a look at Moodle before building your own, though. It's not in CF, but it's free and open-source: http://www.moodle.org/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:295993 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CFEclipse with SVN also including CFCunit and Selenium testing
For those of you trying to figure out how to set up this up. I just finished up a step-by-step set of instructions on how to setup CFEclipse with Subversion and also including continuous testing with CFCUnit and Selenium. Enjoy! http://labs.fusionlink.com/katapult/index.cfm?page=articles/cfeclipse John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293093 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Coldfusion 8 CMAIL and Bounce Backs
Not certain what you mean by hard/soft bounces, but you can easily pull the undeliverable mail from the undeliver folder within CF. You can also use the failto option that cfmail provides. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Chad McCue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion 8 CMAIL and Bounce Backs Does anyone know if there is a way to track Soft and Hard bounce backs though cfmail using Cold Fusion 8? I am on a windows2003 machine and currently using InFusion Mail Server (IMS) to send out our email broadcasts and just found out that they do not support Cold Fusion 8 yet so the code that I am currently using to track my Soft and Hard bounces no longer works. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:292585 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF 8 Enterprise Database Drivers
cfset drivernames = macromedia.jdbc.oracle.OracleDriver, macromedia.jdbc.db2.DB2Driver, macromedia.jdbc.informix.InformixDriver, macromedia.jdbc.sequelink.SequeLinkDriver, macromedia.jdbc.sqlserver.SQLServerDriver, macromedia.jdbc.sybase.SybaseDriver cfset drivernames=Replace(drivernames, ,,ALL) !--- replace all spaces --- cfloop index=drivername list=#drivernames# cfobject action=CREATE class=#drivername# name=driver type=JAVA cfset args= ArrayNew(1) cfset driver.main(args) cfoutput#drivername# is #driver.getMajorVersion()#.#driver.getMinorVersion()#br/cfoutput /cfloop This is from.. http://www.bpurcell.org/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=988 Is there a particular reason you want to play with the drivers? John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 8 Enterprise Database Drivers Is there a document or some method to find out exactly what drivers - make and model number - come with ColdFusion 8 enterprise. It would also be nice to see a how to guide for the time one may have to get under the hood and take wrenches and screwdrivers to monkey with these drivers. My Googling skills so far has only turned up an Adobe Knowledge base article dated to the 5.0 era. TIA Ian ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:292587 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF8 on-demand presentations TOOLS
Adobe is working on it, one project is called CoCoMo. There was some presos on it at MAX this year. http://blogs.adobe.com/collabmethods/ John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Stephen Cassady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 6:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF8 on-demand presentations TOOLS Hey everyone - So I'm very excited about using the on-demand presentation system in CF8. Now, all I need are the tools to do two things to create Awe Inspiring Powerful Presentations that Rock the World: 1. Screen Activity Capture + Voice 2. Video capture (like from a Web Cam) I have nothing of the sort at the moment, so can people suggest products for both (most important) need number 1 and (I have yet to purchase a web cam) need number 2. Please no bathroom jokes about me needing #1 and #2s :-) Stephen Cassady ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:292595 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SOT: How do you version control with your CF code?
I second the recommendation for SVN as a centralized versioning system but you shouldn't pay too much attention to all the people claiming it is hard to set up. It may be tedious when you do it for the first time, but not hard, you just have to follow the manual. But if for some reason you do find it hard or would like to cut through the setup time for doing SVN, Trac, CruiseControl and any other tools you need to setup. I would recommend looking at the Virtual Application Marketplace at Vmware (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/) which has server images where people have set all this up for you. You simply just download and run the image locally. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: How do you version control with your CF code? J W wrote: I am looking to have better version control at our company and am wonder how YOU deal with this. What is your setup? Local development against a local CF and local resources. Full working copy of a SVN repository. Code gets tagged in the repo and then a build server will use an Ant script to pull in drivers, externals and configuration files and generate several EAR files, both a compiled and a source version for each CF version supported. Source versions go to the test environment and when approved the compiled version goes to the staging environment where the customer will approve it for final deployment. I second the recommendation for SVN as a centralized versioning system but you shouldn't pay too much attention to all the people claiming it is hard to set up. It may be tedious when you do it for the first time, but not hard, you just have to follow the manual. And be warned about all the blogs and wiki's too: I'm sure their authors write them with the best intentions, but few of them add something that is not in the manual, most of them are outdated and none of them cover important issues such as the proper way to secure and backup your repository. And don't even think about using that one-click installer, version 1.2.3 is ancient and binary incompatible with the current versions. Jochem ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290443 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Logs growing at exponential rate...
Yep, the logs should give you the insight necessary to fix the problem. Also bare in mind, you can change the location that the log files write to. It's right there in the cf admin. So if it's filling up a drive, simply point them where there's enough storage to hold them. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Logs growing at exponential rate... In the past week or so, a site on a dedicated server has gone down a number of times with a not enough storage to complete this request error. IT in charge of the server has said that the CF log files have been growing at an enormous rate - often several gigs in a day, and completely filling the disk to the point of a crash. I've not seen any of the files yet, but will be getting my hands on them later today. No settings have been changed in the CF Administator. (I take that back - after this happened the first time, I reduced the max log file size by 1/2) There have been no major coding changes to the site - with the exception of a sweep though the site adding cfqueryparam to some older legacy queries - but that was two weeks ago - before this started happening. Without actually seeing any of the log files it's just a guess - but what the heck could be some of the reasons for something like this to suddenly start happening? ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289499 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS
The $30 deal seems silly. Why only one database? I personally don't like the VPS options that several of the other hosting companies are now offering as being even remotely reasonable. Here goes my rant on VPS... At $70 per month, they have to be cutting a lot of corners to make that economical. For example, CF Standard costs $1300, it would take over 18 months just to recoup the cost of CF? With server/bandwidth/resources included over 2 years. Either the resources they give you would be seriously limited and/or they have to be overloading the servers to make this profitable. Putting way too many VPSs on one server. Several people here have noted the bad performance from VPS. One other point, is most hosters will give you complete control (basically terminal service access) to the box. Do you really want this? You might be a good programmer, but are you also a solid system administrator? Do you really want to carry that load as well? Then think, others have the same access to their servers. Now you have even higher security concerns to deal with in relation to that. If they have firewalls protecting you from the outside. Do they also have firewalls protecting you from other VPSs? If their control panel can't handle most server setup functions then frankly it should. Then ask yourself, if your VPS does go down. Who has to do the rebuild. Do they simply provide a fresh VPS instance and leave you to set everything back up? There's a lot to consider when they offer you enough rope to hang yourself with. I'm not going to sale you on FusionLink here. If you like, I can address you on our options off list. I just want to point out VPS might not be as good of a deal as it seems. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS
Others having access to *their* VPS does not add to the security concerns of *your* VPS. I can't agree with that. There several things to be consider here. How the network is setup, etc. But to say there's no impact is clearly wrong. Then ask yourself, if your VPS does go down. Who has to do the rebuild. Do they simply provide a fresh VPS instance and leave you to set everything back up? And how hard is that? Jochem For you maybe not, I would think you have enough experience to be your own sys admin, but others don't have the skills you have. That's the point. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS
That's the critical question with this stuff. Where exactly is the line drawn and who has responsibility for what? The line is this case is pretty fuzzy unless you kick them completely off the VPS. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 3:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Shared Hosting vs VPS Rick Faircloth wrote: Also, the VPS company reassured me that I wouldn't be responsible for the basic maintenance of either Win 2003 Server or CF 8, since those are what come with the package. But how about the advanced maintenance? And how about your advanced maintenance conflicting with their basic maintenance? The first thing I do when I get administrative privileges on a VPS is kicking the hoster out ... Jochem ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS
Naturally you wouldn't have access to another isolated box but no impact? None? That's amazing. So I could have a VPS box inside (for example, TJ Maxx's network) and the theory is there would be no impact or security concerns for either party? Maybe I'm missing something your saying here, but that doesn't seem right. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 3:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS Others having access to *their* VPS does not add to the security concerns of *your* VPS. I can't agree with that. There several things to be consider here. How the network is setup, etc. But to say there's no impact is clearly wrong. Jochem wrote that there's no impact with regard to security, and he's clearly right by any meaningful measurement. Having administrative access to one isolated server doesn't gain you any access to a separate isolated server, whether the two servers are physical or virtual. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289239 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS
Not necessarily, but you have to ask yourself if you have the knowledge and experience to properly 'isolate' your VPS for now and in the future. Which I'm not seeing people do. They look at VPS as a deal and leave the decision to that. Then also if you are doing this for a client of yours. Do they understand the responsibilities for the developer and hoster? If the VPS has issues, who do they call? When the developer leaves the picture, who assumes responsibility? There's a lot to consider. The main point is that each choice does indeed have an impact and issues that need to be laid out clearly. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 4:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS Others having access to *their* VPS does not add to the security concerns of *your* VPS. I can't agree with that. There several things to be consider here. How the network is setup, etc. But to say there's no impact is clearly wrong. Jochem wrote that there's no impact with regard to security, and he's clearly right by any meaningful measurement. Having administrative access to one isolated server doesn't gain you any access to a separate isolated server, whether the two servers are physical or virtual. Naturally you wouldn't have access to another isolated box but no impact? None? That's amazing. Yes, you're missing something. We're talking about two isolated servers on a network assumed to be hostile. My having administrative rights on the first server has nothing to do with the security of the second server. So I could have a VPS box inside (for example, TJ Maxx's network) and the theory is there would be no impact or security concerns for either party? Maybe I'm missing something your saying here, but that doesn't seem right. That's a bad analogy. If TJ Maxx provided a hosting service, and we were both customers, their granting me administrative access on my server would have no effect on the security of your server. You are aware that hosting companies provide administrative access to dedicated servers all the time, right? In your opinion, is this a bad thing? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289248 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS
Actually no, there way too many assumptions being made to make that statement. I thought I made that fairly clear. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS Not necessarily, but you have to ask yourself if you have the knowledge and experience to properly 'isolate' your VPS for now and in the future. All of which is completely irrelevant to the original statement about security made by Jochem. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS
No problem, it's late.. There wouldn't be a difference in those two if you provide both with TS access. I think we're in agreement more than not here. It may be a finer point on the TS access, where I think giving people TS access when they don't really need it. They may also not fully understand the responsibilities they are accepting when they do. I didn't like the original statement because it seem too far reaching. Though I do think you should think of any network to be hostile, regardless of the situation. More access points with the full range of services that TS provides than less would naturally, in my mind, mean a more hostile network than not. For example, hosting your VPS at TJ Maxx would be in a less secure environment than at NSA. But you should always assume that you're in the weaker of the two. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: 23 Sep 07 21:32 Subject: RE: Shared Hosting vs VPS Actually no, there way too many assumptions being made to make that statement. I thought I made that fairly clear. No, you haven't. Your assertion alone is insufficient. Rereading my response, I realize it may have been a bit terse. But again, how is this any different from dedicated hosting? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289267 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF Scheduler Help
Or you can simply load in those SSL certs that you need into the jvm cacerts file so they will be trusted. Of course, you will need to update this when those certs get renewed. The internal method Dave is speaking of is probably for less of a hassle. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Scheduler Help I need help getting the scheduler to work. I work for the government and our machines require PKI certificates. Our sites require SSL. We are running CF 7. I thought the problem was the certs. It appears that they are not the problem, but SSL is. How do I get the scheduler to work with SSL? If I turn SSL off (temporarily), the scheduler works fine. I recommend that, instead of using SSL where it's not needed, you set up a local virtual web server that only accepts requests from localhost and does not require SSL. SSL involves unnecessary overhead in this case. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:288597 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP!
You need to use seefusion or fusionreactor to see what exactly is happening. Sounds like a hung cf page that is filling up your available CF threads. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: J W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP! On one of our remote clients I am having a W2k3 Server hang on me. It can happen once every couple days or every 10 min. Their system. W2k3, IIS6, Coldfusion MX 7 (Standard) with whatever version of JRUN the intsaller installs. Stock CF settings. Memory usage is fine. nothing that seems out of the ordinary. The webserver will hang and once reset (cf services) goes back to normal and runs fine... Looking at the coldfusion-err.log, I am getting a crapload of these couple errors: -- java.lang.RuntimeException: Request timed out waiting for an available thread to run. You may want to consider increasing the number of active threads in the thread pool. at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$Throttle.enter(ThreadPool.java:115) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable( ThreadPool.java:423) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable( ThreadPool.java:264) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) --- java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write error Anyone with any ideas I am completely stumped. Thanks, Jeff ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:288596 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP!
Sounds like those slow threads stack up at the wrong time for you. The first step here is to see if the CF coding can be fixed or sped up. Jumping into the JVM settings at this point isn't going to solve the core issue. As more traffic hits the box, this problem would only reappear. You need to work this bottleneck from the top down. From the CF code down to the final point which is JVM tuning. What exactly are those slow threads doing? FTP? Webservice calls? John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: J W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP! I can't tell exactly what happened at the time of last crash to coincide since the trial of SeeFusion I downloaded had a 2hr time limit on it.. However I just installed fusion reactor trial on the system On this server 8 Max simultaneous requests 100mb max post data JVM Arguments 512 Max Heap size (MB) -server -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=128m - Dcoldfusion.rootDir={application.home}/../ - Dcoldfusion.libPath={application.home}/../lib -Xdebug -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,server=y,address=28999,suspend=n On the fusion reactor side: I have a butload of slow request, but none are stuck. Alot of the slow requests are waiting for communication with various 3rd party interfaces to complete, so the templates can take a long time to generate. Slow requests range from 4,000 to 35000ms. most are in the 4-5k range. In the first 20 minutes of uptime here. I have not gone above 8 simultanious requests, mostly 3-5. Recent slow pages was up to 5. Average Request time various between 1100 and 2800ms Currently using 25mb of the heap. 4% memory for now. 23 minutes of uptime 1300 requests.. Where can we go from here? On 9/17/07, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the memory heap size? In other words, was it 70% of 150 Megs, or 70% of 1,500 megs? In ColdFusion administrator, what is the maximum number of simultaneous requests set to? (default is 15 to 20 I think). How many requests were running at the time the error was encountered? ~Brad -Original Message- From: J W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP! I had Seefusion running. NOTHING looked out of the ordinary. I had some slow processes, but that expected for some of the third party calls that I have to do on those. Memory was like 70=80%, Is there anything specific I should be looking for using either SeeFusion or Fusion reactor? On 9/17/07, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with using SeeFusion or Fusion Rector to see what is going on. In the mean time, cfstat can at least show you if you are getting backup up requests. ~Brad -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP! You need to use seefusion or fusionreactor to see what exactly is happening. Sounds like a hung cf page that is filling up your available CF threads. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:288613 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP!
If it's an old tag then I would suspect there would be some ways to do this more quickly going directly through java. Before switching your tag, you might want to double check and see if the tag is slow or more simply the response back is slow (making your tag wait). If you are having to wait each time for the response, then you are kind of stuck. You can increase the thread limit and also (if you can upgrade to CF8) look at off loading this to a cfthread. The delay response could also be a networking issue. Check to see if you having any looping switches or other bad routing messing things up. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: J W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP! TCP socket connections to a middleware server that speaks to a database. I make a socket request, it sends me back data. The requests take forever, but it is the only way we can communicate. I use Jsocket a REALLY old tag for coldfusion to accomplish this. Is there a CFHTTP equivilent for TCP or some newer tag that may work better? Coding is solid to do this, its the tag and the communication that is slow. Jeff On 9/17/07, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like those slow threads stack up at the wrong time for you. The first step here is to see if the CF coding can be fixed or sped up. Jumping into the JVM settings at this point isn't going to solve the core issue. As more traffic hits the box, this problem would only reappear. You need to work this bottleneck from the top down. From the CF code down to the final point which is JVM tuning. What exactly are those slow threads doing? FTP? Webservice calls? John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: J W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP! I can't tell exactly what happened at the time of last crash to coincide since the trial of SeeFusion I downloaded had a 2hr time limit on it.. However I just installed fusion reactor trial on the system On this server 8 Max simultaneous requests 100mb max post data JVM Arguments 512 Max Heap size (MB) -server -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=128m - Dcoldfusion.rootDir={application.home}/../ - Dcoldfusion.libPath={application.home}/../lib -Xdebug -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,server=y,address=28999,suspend=n On the fusion reactor side: I have a butload of slow request, but none are stuck. Alot of the slow requests are waiting for communication with various 3rd party interfaces to complete, so the templates can take a long time to generate. Slow requests range from 4,000 to 35000ms. most are in the 4-5k range. In the first 20 minutes of uptime here. I have not gone above 8 simultanious requests, mostly 3-5. Recent slow pages was up to 5. Average Request time various between 1100 and 2800ms Currently using 25mb of the heap. 4% memory for now. 23 minutes of uptime 1300 requests.. Where can we go from here? On 9/17/07, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the memory heap size? In other words, was it 70% of 150 Megs, or 70% of 1,500 megs? In ColdFusion administrator, what is the maximum number of simultaneous requests set to? (default is 15 to 20 I think). How many requests were running at the time the error was encountered? ~Brad -Original Message- From: J W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP! I had Seefusion running. NOTHING looked out of the ordinary. I had some slow processes, but that expected for some of the third party calls that I have to do on those. Memory was like 70=80%, Is there anything specific I should be looking for using either SeeFusion or Fusion reactor? On 9/17/07, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with using SeeFusion or Fusion Rector to see what is going on. In the mean time, cfstat can at least show you if you are getting backup up requests. ~Brad -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Server hanging. Wierd problems. HELP! You need to use seefusion or fusionreactor to see what exactly is happening. Sounds like a hung cf page that is filling up your available CF threads. ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today
RE: Very basic question about cfmail
I'm assuming you don't really want out strip the html but simply have it evaluate on the emails. cfmail has an attribute called type, so you should only need to do cfmail.. Type=HTML.. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: NUGROHO NOTO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Very basic question about cfmail I am sorry if this is the wrong place to post very basic question like this. my script is like this CFMAIL QUERY=mailinglist TO=#email# FROM=#webmaster# SUBJECT=#subject# CFMAILPARAM NAME=MIME-Version VALUE=1.0 CFMAILPARAM NAME=Content-Type VALUE=text/plain; charset=utf-8 #content# /CFMAIL The content of the email is written in database (in html format) because it is used for other purpose, viewed online by customers who want to read it online on our website) but when I send email .. and the content is outputing the query of those content. the emails I got... is like this. p/pThis is a sample emailbrbrbrcontent of the messagebrbryou receive this emailbr So... cfmail send the content of the query (including all the HTML code) How can I send email using cfmail... but stripping all the html code but still retain the basic formating (carriage return etc) Thanks for reading this basic question... ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:288350 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Newbie guide to installing / configuring CF on Unix
It's not much better on Windows. We always modify that directly. But before touching it, be sure to copy a backup (no seriously, save a backup!) :) John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Wil Genovese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Newbie guide to installing / configuring CF on Unix CRITICAL!! Once installed, DO NOT use the CF Administrator to edit your JVM settings. The CF Admin tool for editing JVM settings always corrupts the jvm.config file on Linux. We have about 5 cf servers running on the same box but one of them is not well. When I start It I get loads of errors (no web server configured to service your request). 5 different installs ? JRun multi-server ? How do I do this? I assume it's a bit more complicated than running the connector software. Assume the front end web server is Apache, open up the config file and locate the JRun settings for an existing site, and use them to connect up the new one. Do I have to run the coldfusion installer (I have no idea if that's even on the server) or do I run a file that's there already. If you want to re-install a stand alone server, yes. Free download from Adobe.com, because you have the license code already, right ? Are there any really simple tutorials for this sort of thing? I've not got much experience at all with unix so am feeling a bit lost! There's a LAMP-type guide for getting started with CF and Apache on Windows, but I've not got it book marked. A google should turn it up, and the Linux process is almost exactly the same. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to preemptively network intuitive systems on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:288272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Coldfusion 8 hosting
FusionLink has ColdFusion 8 Enterprise level hosting. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Ali Majdzadeh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion 8 hosting Hi: Is there any reliable Coldfusion 8 hosting server right now? I found by googling the following company but never heard of them before. http://www.bmchosting.com/features.cfm Do you know any good hosting with reasonable price which supports all cool CF8 features? Thanks Benign ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:286636 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF 8 truncating floats?
Just to pass this along to see if we're not the only ones seeing this issue. If someone can confirm this, I'll pass it on to Adobe. It appears that CF 8 is truncating floats from Sql Server 2000. Thanks, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Is cfqueryparam worth it? There are reasons not to use it. They come with perils. If the data being sent to the query does not come from the outside then the only risk to SQL injection comes from the developers working on the query, and they have other ways to cause havoc without having to write SQL injection attacks. True enoughbut then you need to use one of those stripped down queries where the public could mess with thingswhy not just use it and forget about it?? ;-) When you use cfqueryparam the statement that gets compiled uses sp_prepexec. This causes MSSql server to generate the query execution plan for the query before actually executing the query. This can actually end up causing the server to run the query 2x. If you have a very long running query for a report for example that queries millions of records of data against millions of other records of data etc. and takes several minutes or hours to execute you do not want that to happen 2x every call. In theory when sp_prepexec generates the execution plan that is cached and not needed to be created again however on high volume / traffic sql servers it is not possible to cache every execution plan forever. Often long running queries that are executed rarely fall out of the execution plan cache. This can create a huge performance problem for a sql server. Well that's a pretty specific situation...and one that should be a stroed proc IMHO Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285993 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF 8 truncating floats?
Just to pass this along to see if we're not the only ones seeing this issue. If someone can confirm this, I'll pass it on to Adobe. It appears that CF 8 is truncating floats from Sql Server 2000. Thanks, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Is cfqueryparam worth it? There are reasons not to use it. They come with perils. If the data being sent to the query does not come from the outside then the only risk to SQL injection comes from the developers working on the query, and they have other ways to cause havoc without having to write SQL injection attacks. True enoughbut then you need to use one of those stripped down queries where the public could mess with thingswhy not just use it and forget about it?? ;-) When you use cfqueryparam the statement that gets compiled uses sp_prepexec. This causes MSSql server to generate the query execution plan for the query before actually executing the query. This can actually end up causing the server to run the query 2x. If you have a very long running query for a report for example that queries millions of records of data against millions of other records of data etc. and takes several minutes or hours to execute you do not want that to happen 2x every call. In theory when sp_prepexec generates the execution plan that is cached and not needed to be created again however on high volume / traffic sql servers it is not possible to cache every execution plan forever. Often long running queries that are executed rarely fall out of the execution plan cache. This can create a huge performance problem for a sql server. Well that's a pretty specific situation...and one that should be a stroed proc IMHO Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285994 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: I'm Old - ColdFusion 4.x
Where are you located Mark? John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Mark Sorteberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: I'm Old - ColdFusion 4.x I haven't been around the ColdFusion world since 4.x. I have a good job lead that requires that I get back into ColdFusion. I am having a very difficult time doing two things. 1. Finding a good training center. (I called Adobe and they couldn't help and the training center(s) on their website do not return calls and they have no email address to send questions to. 2. Is there an online tutorial website that I can use to get reaquainted with CF over the weekend. I obviously do not have the CF product at home or where I currently work. I have an interview on Monday and I'd like to play with CF as much as I can over the next few days. Any advice? ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285919 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: coldfusion 8 and memory
It's probably more correct to say the jvm heap and permanent space has to be under 2GB for a 32-bit arch. So if for some reason you had a small permanent space, the heap could be slightly bigger than 1.8GB. But that's a finer point than most people need to have. CF needs at least 128 for the permanent space, so the 1.8 limit for the heap. 64-bit doesn't fall under this memory limitation, but to run CF on 64-bit it would have to be CF8 on Solaris since that's all that is supported currently. If you are running high on your heap sizes, you may need to switch out your GC engine to one that can handle the heavier load. Here's an article on this... http://labs.fusionlink.com/katapult/index.cfm?page=articles/jvmtuning Also, take a closer look at your code to see if you can trim stuff there. Whenever optimizing the server check your CF code first to see if anything is taking up a larger than normal memory block. For example, doing a simple select * on a table query could easily mess with you. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: coldfusion 8 and memory On 32-bit processor machines, the largest contiguous memory address space the operating system can allocate to a process is 1.8GB. Because of this, the maximum heap size can only be set up to 1.8GB. On 64-bit processor machines, the 1.8 GB limit does not apply, as 64-bit processor machines have a larger memory address space. On 8/7/07, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok :) (holding back smart ass remark) any idea on the limit for the windows jvm? tony thanks! On 8/7/07, Brian Kotek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The memory limitation is in the Windows JVM, not CF. On 8/7/07, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there. back in the days of cfmx 7.x 1.5gb was the max amt of ram you could specify on a windows server to allocate to coldfusion. has that changed with cf8? thanks! tony -- 'Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in thirty seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner' robert deniro - heat (1995) ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285614 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: running jrockit with CFusionMX7 to find memory leak
No reason to completely switch out the JVM for this.. Sun has free tools to help find memory leaks with their jvm's Check.. http://java.sun.com/performance/jvmstat/ You can also use Seefusion or Fusion-reactor which pulls a lot of the same info but more in the light of CF. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Jason Fill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: running jrockit with CFusionMX7 to find memory leak This is not relating to jrockit, but do you happen to be running FusionReactor? There was a bug in v2 of FR that, in some instances, caused the ODBC Wrapper to make memory climb. This has been fixed in their 2.04 release - and works great I might add. Just thought I would though that out there in case you are running FR with the ODBC wrapper. I have been having a terrible time trying to get jrockit running with coldfusion. I have coldfusion MX 7 running and installed jrockit (jrockit-R27.3.1-jdk1.5.0_11). The reason I am trying to run jrockit is to use their memory leak tools to find a memory leak on my server. It crashes nearly daily because it runs out of memory. I have tried following the information on this page but it has not worked: http://www.schierberl.com/cfblog/index. cfm/2006/10/12/ColdFusion_memoryLeak_profiler So far I have made these changes to the jvm.config file:l java.home=C:/Program Files/Java/jrockit-R27.3.1-jdk1.5.0_11/jre Also, I added the following at the end of the java.args: -Xmanagement According to the post, I should add this to the java.args but doing so prevents cold fusion server from starting: -Xmanagement -Djrockit.managementserver.port=9010 Okay, so by just using the '-Xmanagement' cold fusion starts and I am able to run jrockit. Once in jrockit, under the 'connectors' it shows localhost:80 however I am unable to start the memory leak or do anything else with that (timeout failures). Under 'discovered' within 'local' it shows com.jrockit.mc.rcp.start.MCMain. I am able to start memory leak on that connection, but I believe it isn't the correct connection. It seems as if there is some disconnect between my localhost and the jrockit. Any advise or directions would be greatly appreciated. ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285615 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: coldfusion 8 and memory
Naturally this depends on the OS/Arch hence the reason I mention that. Adobe must be doing something very particular with their JVM setup Sean. For example running a 32-bit JVM on a 64-bit Solaris. I would certainly like to know if that's what they are doing and to know how stable that is. A straight quote from Sun on this... On most modern 32-bit Windows systems the maximum heap size will range from 1.4G to 1.6G. On 32-bit Solaris kernels the address space is limited to 2G. On 64-bit operating systems running the 32-bit VM, the max heap size can be higher, approaching 4G on many Solaris systems. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: coldfusion 8 and memory On 8/7/07, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: limitation, but to run CF on 64-bit it would have to be CF8 on Solaris since that's all that is supported currently. macromedia.com / adobe.com has been running ColdFusion with heap sizes 2Gb on Solaris for years - this is not about 32-bit vs 64-bit but rather how the O/S chipset address memory. 32-bit non-Windows systems are perfectly capable of addressing 4Gb and therefore can run CF with a heap in the 3Gb range. Now there's a question as to whether you really want to use such a large heap: it means longer GC cycles and lumpier performance. In many ways, you're better off with the smallest heap that can handle your peak load since that will give you much better GC performance... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285630 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SQL injection hack?
You'll also see these automated scripts hitting other services like ftp, email, etc. You need to make certain that all services are properly protected and monitor. Cfqueryparam and stored procedures are good first steps, but bare in mind a lot of information could still be disclosed even with these in place. Here's my top 10 list of things to look at... -Use cfqueryparam and stored procs -Limit the other services on a site. If the site isn't using ASP, then turn it off. Reduce the http verbs for CF to just GET,HEAD,POST -Turn off RDS services -If your site has a login page, limit the login to 3-5 attempts and block after that. Send an alert that someone may be running a brute force attack on your login. -Have a restricted login for your datasource calls. In most cases, the web site doesn't need full dbo permissions to a datasource. You can also limit the sql commands in the cfadmin under the datasource listing. -If using cfc's, take a closer look at the access and roles attributes. Most cfc's I see have public access and that's it. There's far more you can do. -Check for cross-site scripting attacks and use the various ways to prevent them. No checking the cross-site toggle on the cfadmin or application is not going to do the trick. - Always have error catches in place and turn debugging off. Half the reason for the attack is to see the debugging information. - Turn off outside access to your CF Admin. Why give an automated script to chance to break into that? -And finally monitor your logs (including the other services like ftp) and site errors, that will help alert you to an attack. If you did all these things, you're still not done. Security is an on going process. New threats come up all the time. The point is to stay on top of this and continuously improve the security of our web app but also keep the usability that allows it to work. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Paul Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL injection hack? We've been seeing the exact same thing, basic SQL injection attacks all originating from China... It looks automated as they've spidered several sites we host using the exact same technique and SQL phrase. It has been going on continuously for about a week now. Thankfully the sites are pro-actively monitored from an error management POV so we've been aware of the attacks from the get go. I agree. Using CFCs, having a common code base, employing type checking on functions and using CFQUERYPARAM all make life a little bit easier in coping with these things... In CF 8 it's worth noting that the type checking can be turned off for performance gains. I guess this is a trade off... What you gain in performance, you lose in data validation. It's a shame this feature is a global setting and not one that could be specified on a function by function basis as I'd like to keep type checking on for my DB objects and turn it off where I feel it's not necessary. Paul -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2007 16:25 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SQL injection hack? Just an FYI to everyone else i've been at my current post for 3 years and we've had pro-active error monitoring (versus re reactive hey my site doesn't work) now for close to 2 years. Just in the recent weeks we started seeing basic SQL injection hacks on site we host. We never saw anything like this till recently, so be on your toes. Like others have mentioned using CFQueryParam and Stored Procedures can help. Also putting the stuff into CFC's and forcing incoming vars to be typed help as well. (with everything except string of course). If you are looking for preventive stuff on top of those already mentioned you can look into the CF Firewalls which are starting to spring up. As well as there are those who have made some really cool stuff to help watch for this. I think Shawn Gorrell has some code (he mentioned it at a recent ACFUG meeting) you might reach out to him, http://www.illumineti.com/blog/, if he doesn't notice this thread. jonese On 8/6/07, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks that way. Rey Rick King wrote: Hey all, I just received this email that is generated when there is an error on a site I built (www.woreitonce.com) ---E-MAIL Invalid data 1 and 1=convert(int,(select top 1 char(97)+admin_password from tbl_adminusers)) for CFSQLTYPE CF_SQL_INTEGER. brThe error occurred on line 30. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6 81.10.46.130 /Details.cfm ProdID=1%20and%201=convert(int,(select%20top%201%20char(97)%2badmin_pa s sword%20from
RE: SQL injection hack?
No problem, bare in mind that isn't going over the other server security or data transfer items. That list is focused in on those automated scripting attacks. There's a ton of over things to consider. The most obvious are sandboxing, firewalls and SSLs. But for the programming side of things, this gets the ball rolling.. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL injection hack? Thanks John...this is a great checklist. -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL injection hack? You'll also see these automated scripts hitting other services like ftp, email, etc. You need to make certain that all services are properly protected and monitor. Cfqueryparam and stored procedures are good first steps, but bare in mind a lot of information could still be disclosed even with these in place. Here's my top 10 list of things to look at... -Use cfqueryparam and stored procs -Limit the other services on a site. If the site isn't using ASP, then turn it off. Reduce the http verbs for CF to just GET,HEAD,POST -Turn off RDS services -If your site has a login page, limit the login to 3-5 attempts and block after that. Send an alert that someone may be running a brute force attack on your login. -Have a restricted login for your datasource calls. In most cases, the web site doesn't need full dbo permissions to a datasource. You can also limit the sql commands in the cfadmin under the datasource listing. -If using cfc's, take a closer look at the access and roles attributes. Most cfc's I see have public access and that's it. There's far more you can do. -Check for cross-site scripting attacks and use the various ways to prevent them. No checking the cross-site toggle on the cfadmin or application is not going to do the trick. - Always have error catches in place and turn debugging off. Half the reason for the attack is to see the debugging information. - Turn off outside access to your CF Admin. Why give an automated script to chance to break into that? -And finally monitor your logs (including the other services like ftp) and site errors, that will help alert you to an attack. If you did all these things, you're still not done. Security is an on going process. New threats come up all the time. The point is to stay on top of this and continuously improve the security of our web app but also keep the usability that allows it to work. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Paul Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL injection hack? We've been seeing the exact same thing, basic SQL injection attacks all originating from China... It looks automated as they've spidered several sites we host using the exact same technique and SQL phrase. It has been going on continuously for about a week now. Thankfully the sites are pro-actively monitored from an error management POV so we've been aware of the attacks from the get go. I agree. Using CFCs, having a common code base, employing type checking on functions and using CFQUERYPARAM all make life a little bit easier in coping with these things... In CF 8 it's worth noting that the type checking can be turned off for performance gains. I guess this is a trade off... What you gain in performance, you lose in data validation. It's a shame this feature is a global setting and not one that could be specified on a function by function basis as I'd like to keep type checking on for my DB objects and turn it off where I feel it's not necessary. Paul -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2007 16:25 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SQL injection hack? Just an FYI to everyone else i've been at my current post for 3 years and we've had pro-active error monitoring (versus re reactive hey my site doesn't work) now for close to 2 years. Just in the recent weeks we started seeing basic SQL injection hacks on site we host. We never saw anything like this till recently, so be on your toes. Like others have mentioned using CFQueryParam and Stored Procedures can help. Also putting the stuff into CFC's and forcing incoming vars to be typed help as well. (with everything except string of course). If you are looking for preventive stuff on top of those already mentioned you can look into the CF Firewalls which are starting to spring up. As well as there are those who have made some really cool stuff to help watch for this. I think Shawn Gorrell has
RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin
One of the points here was that other software has more of a price spread than Adobe CF currently. Don't get too focused in on the numbers. The other point was that enterprise level software is expensive. Surprise! Sure there's J2EE stuff that as expensive if not more, I stand corrected there. But Microsoft, Oracle (to some point) and others have layers of product versions to cover the purchasing power our their customers. To use a car analogy. Not everyone can afford an Aston-Martin DB5 but they don't want a used 70's VW bug either. There's a range that all the car companies cover with slightly different lines. The same is true for software. It's actually good, it means there's a big enough market for CF to have a real price spread of more than 2 versions. If Adobe ran a simple pricing analysis, I bet with a new 'business version' they would end up making more money than having just Standard/Enterprise versions. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin We just purchased SQL Server licenses and it's only the actual processor that counts. You could have a quad core and it would only be one license. -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin Dale, I did a quick search for software pricing to put the CF8 pricing in some perspective.. Windows 2003 Enterprise 3,443 Windows 2003 Standard 958 Oracle 10g Enterprise 40,000 Oracle 10g Standard 4,995 Sql Server Enterprise 13,699 Sql Server Standard 1,754 JBoss Enterprise 4,500 I'm not sure if this pricing is an accurate representation. Sure SQL server standard is around $1800 with 5 CALs, but if you want to use it for a web app, you will need a per processor license. Let's say you have a standard dual core 2 duo box. That's 4 virtual processors. If I'm reading the licensing terms correctly, you would need 4 processor licenses (assuming you want to utilize all 4 processors). This comes out to $5999 per processor x 4 processors, $23996 for the standard version, $24,999 per processor x 4 processors, $95984 for the enterprise version. Of course if you're buying the enterprise version, you're probably doing it for failover or some sort of clustering, in which case you will likely have 2 servers, so it will be close to $200k for the enterprise version. Of course there's the express version, which does most of what you would need as long as you don't need more then 1 cpu, 1GB of ram and 4GB of db size. I think MS did a good move by releasing the express version. This might hurt sales, as a lot of people would be happy with just the express version, but once people start outgrowing it, they will have no choice but to plunk down $6k per CPU for the standard edition. Mind you that CF only charges per physical processor and the enterprise license covers 2 physical CPUs (last time I checked). This means you can have 2 quad-core or higher CPUs and you're good as far as CF is concenrned. You can also have unlimited virtual machines on the 2 physical CPUs, and run a copy of standard edition in each of them, and you're still good as far as licensing is concerned. Russ ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin
Ok, my forth attempt to post this. Jeez, the list server was down for two attempts and then I got 2 bounces saying my message is over 100 lines. Hopefully this one will get through. This is in reply to Charles talking about needing CF Ent for the Oracle connectivity. You can use the Oracle j2ee drivers (that comes with Oracle) to work with CF standard. Just a little more work on your end, but it works fine. This is for Oracle 10g, it may be slightly different for other versions.. -Find the ojdbc14.jar driver on your oracle installation -Put that jar into your WEB-INF\lib -In coldfusion, create a new datasource and choose other as the driver -JDBC URL would be jdbc:oracle:thin:@ip:port:database -Driver Class oracle.jdbc.OracleDriver Now why does CF standard not just go ahead and do this for you. Well franky I don't know, but it really doesn't matter if you have the drivers anyway. It does confuse the hack out of people, which is bad. Wanted to make sure you knew this before you decided to jump ship :) John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284885 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin
You can use the Oracle j2ee drivers (that comes with Oracle) to work with CF standard. Just a little more work on your end, but it works fine. This is for Oracle 10g, it may be slightly different for other versions.. -Find the ojdbc14.jar driver on your oracle installation -Put that jar into your WEB-INF\lib -In coldfusion, create a new datasource and choose other as the driver -JDBC URL would be jdbc:oracle:thin:@ip:port:database -Driver Class oracle.jdbc.OracleDriver Now why does CF standard not just go ahead and do this for you. Well franky I don't know, but it really doesn't matter if you have the drivers anyway. It does confuse the hack out of people, which is bad. Wanted to make sure you knew this before you decided to jump ship :) John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Charles E. Heizer1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin So, I have to agree with Dale... Adobe has put a bullet in CF. For example, Standard Edition would be fine for me but I need Oracle access and now I need to pay twice that just to do supported Oracle connectivity. We are an enterprise and when I discussed this with management they came back and said we should just invest our time in ASP.NET. We can retrain our developers, and not worry about buying upgrades and we'll get new features as they come out. You know, I don't disagree with them. I just recently started playing with Visual Studio .Net, and it's far easier to write web services and create great web content. Adobe thanks for the memories, a user/developer since version 4.5. - Charles ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284882 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin
Dale, I did a quick search for software pricing to put the CF8 pricing in some perspective.. Windows 2003 Enterprise 3,443 Windows 2003 Standard 958 Oracle 10g Enterprise 40,000 Oracle 10g Standard 4,995 Sql Server Enterprise 13,699 Sql Server Standard 1,754 JBoss Enterprise4,500 Now as far as software goes, CF8 is reasonably priced. If you look at just J2ee servers or Web app servers, yea CF8 Ent is very high. Yes, this will hurt their sales. It's simply a point for you to determine if the features are worth it for you or not. I'm sure BlueDragon and the others will incorporate a lot of those same features down the road just like Adobe adopted cfthread from BlueDragon. So no biggie, wait 6 months.. Another point for the Adobe people, I remember when the standard/enterprise started and there was a lot complaining back then. With the price gap getting wider, maybe it's time for a third version, let's call it a Business version. That provides some of the least costly new features and provides a bridge (or stepping stone) from standard to enterprise. I think that would solve a lot of issues with this and take almost nothing for Adobe to do. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284941 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin
From: Charles E. Heizer1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Trust me, I really don't want to jump ship but when people keep whispering PHP/ASP etc. to management, and the product cost is, well free. It makes it a really hard sell. We have also had,in the past a really hard time finding good quality CF developers. -- Others have mention this already but PHP and ASP are only free if you don't value your time and you prefer to write larger amounts of code. Granted, it's hard to sale this to management sometimes with the prices printed right there, but you could do a simple code off. Do a set of code in ASP, PHP and ColdFusion that simply calls a datasource and outputs the data. This is a very basic operation that we all do and it doesn't take much to appreciate the simplicity of CF in this example. Now magnify that difference over weeks, months or years. The time alone you're saving should easy balance out the price. Now finding experienced CF developers, yes, the field is tight. Here in Atlanta they work for the companies like UPS, Alltel, Federal Reserve, etc. Hardly a dying language, but yes experienced Cfers are expensive and in short supply. Good news for all of us :) But frankly I think that people forget how quickly they themselves probably learned CF. Don't go around looking for a CF guy, just pull some CIS/CS majors straight out of college. Most of them now have basic Java/OO/XML experience. They probably haven't heard of CF and wouldn't know to look for a job in that area, but learning CF with this background takes very little time at all. Plus you'll get them on the cheap :) John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284990 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin
You can use the Oracle j2ee drivers (that comes with Oracle) to work with CF standard. Just a little more work on your end, but it works fine. This is for Oracle 10g, it may be slightly different for other versions.. -Find the ojdbc14.jar driver on your oracle installation -Put that jar into your WEB-INF\lib -In coldfusion, create a new datasource and choose other as the driver -JDBC URL would be jdbc:oracle:thin:@ip:port:database -Driver Class oracle.jdbc.OracleDriver Now why does CF standard not just go ahead and do this for you. Well franky I don't know, but it really doesn't matter if you have the drivers anyway. It does confuse the hack out of people, which is bad. Wanted to make sure you knew this before you decided to jump ship :) John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - Specializing in ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Charles E. Heizer1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin So, I have to agree with Dale... Adobe has put a bullet in CF. For example, Standard Edition would be fine for me but I need Oracle access and now I need to pay twice that just to do supported Oracle connectivity. We are an enterprise and when I discussed this with management they came back and said we should just invest our time in ASP.NET. We can retrain our developers, and not worry about buying upgrades and we'll get new features as they come out. You know, I don't disagree with them. I just recently started playing with Visual Studio .Net, and it's far easier to write web services and create great web content. Adobe thanks for the memories, a user/developer since version 4.5. - Charles On 7/30/07 5:27 AM, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to echo what Sean said...I looked at CF8 and thought, wow finally a product that I would really label Enterprise. Not to say CF7 wasn't Enterprise, it had some great features and was a great release, but I think the monitoring and some of the Administration changes helped make it really enterprise friendly. Thats not mentioning the performance enhancements, exchange integration (which currently means nothing to Lotus Shops bleh), and whole suite of ajax tools that really make CF shine as a UI web layer for large Java apps. You have to look at this product and realize enterprise is worthless to you unless you really need super scalability. Standard has it all, albeit limited/throttled. Sure cfthread and exchange integration and PDF (?) are throttled but they are available and until you have 100+ (dare I say probably more) concurrent users using the exact same functionality Enterprise means very little. Its like a computer, my Mom doesn't need a dual core 64bit AMD with 2gig of ram and 256mb dedicate graphics card running iSCSI to send me pictures and read email (unless she is running Vista then she might ;) ). Gone are the days where you have to have enterprise to play with those nifty event gateways. If enterprise looks to expensive to you then you probably don't need it, or you need to look at some other Enterprise software costs and revisit in 15 minutes. Hell I say that single move by Adobe to offer a more complete Standard Edition will open more doors for ColdFusion than any single feature. I say Bravo! Adam Haskell On 7/30/07, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/07, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for your post on CF 8 being a dead product because of the price increase, note that the increase if for Enterprise. How many people here (other than me) actually use or need enterprise. Me! To be honest, the difference between $3,000/CPU and $3,750/CPU is pretty negligible in an enterprise world. For the - new-in-8 - (multi-)server monitoring and RDS/Admin user management features, unlimited CFTHREAD and unlimited MS Exchange integration, that extra $750/CPU is well worth it (as well as the general reasons Enterprise is worth paying more for: unlimited event gateways, PDF/document services, reporting etc). The key thing everyone should be rejoicing about is that Standard Edition includes: event gateways, pdf/document services, cfthread, MS Exchange integration, reporting, presentation generation. There would be a lot of complaints if these were Enterprise only features. There were plenty of complaints around CFMX 7 because event gateways were Enterprise-only! -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive:
RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin
You can use the Oracle j2ee drivers (that comes with Oracle) to work with CF standard. Just a little more work on your end, but it works fine. This is for Oracle 10g, it may be slightly different for other versions.. -Find the ojdbc14.jar driver on your oracle installation -Put that jar into your WEB-INF\lib -In coldfusion, create a new datasource and choose other as the driver -JDBC URL would be jdbc:oracle:thin:@ip:port:database -Driver Class oracle.jdbc.OracleDriver Now why does CF standard not just go ahead and do this for you. Well franky I don't know, but it really doesn't matter if you have the drivers anyway. It does confuse the hack out of people, which is bad. Wanted to make sure you knew this before you decided to jump ship :) John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 http://www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Charles E. Heizer1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin So, I have to agree with Dale... Adobe has put a bullet in CF. For example, Standard Edition would be fine for me but I need Oracle access and now I need to pay twice that just to do supported Oracle connectivity. We are an enterprise and when I discussed this with management they came back and said we should just invest our time in ASP.NET. We can retrain our developers, and not worry about buying upgrades and we'll get new features as they come out. You know, I don't disagree with them. I just recently started playing with Visual Studio .Net, and it's far easier to write web services and create great web content. Adobe thanks for the memories, a user/developer since version 4.5. - Charles On 7/30/07 5:27 AM, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to echo what Sean said...I looked at CF8 and thought, wow finally a product that I would really label Enterprise. Not to say CF7 wasn't Enterprise, it had some great features and was a great release, but I think the monitoring and some of the Administration changes helped make it really enterprise friendly. Thats not mentioning the performance enhancements, exchange integration (which currently means nothing to Lotus Shops bleh), and whole suite of ajax tools that really make CF shine as a UI web layer for large Java apps. You have to look at this product and realize enterprise is worthless to you unless you really need super scalability. Standard has it all, albeit limited/throttled. Sure cfthread and exchange integration and PDF (?) are throttled but they are available and until you have 100+ (dare I say probably more) concurrent users using the exact same functionality Enterprise means very little. Its like a computer, my Mom doesn't need a dual core 64bit AMD with 2gig of ram and 256mb dedicate graphics card running iSCSI to send me pictures and read email (unless she is running Vista then she might ;) ). Gone are the days where you have to have enterprise to play with those nifty event gateways. If enterprise looks to expensive to you then you probably don't need it, or you need to look at some other Enterprise software costs and revisit in 15 minutes. Hell I say that single move by Adobe to offer a more complete Standard Edition will open more doors for ColdFusion than any single feature. I say Bravo! Adam Haskell On 7/30/07, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/07, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for your post on CF 8 being a dead product because of the price increase, note that the increase if for Enterprise. How many people here (other than me) actually use or need enterprise. Me! To be honest, the difference between $3,000/CPU and $3,750/CPU is pretty negligible in an enterprise world. For the - new-in-8 - (multi-)server monitoring and RDS/Admin user management features, unlimited CFTHREAD and unlimited MS Exchange integration, that extra $750/CPU is well worth it (as well as the general reasons Enterprise is worth paying more for: unlimited event gateways, PDF/document services, reporting etc). The key thing everyone should be rejoicing about is that Standard Edition includes: event gateways, pdf/document services, cfthread, MS Exchange integration, reporting, presentation generation. There would be a lot of complaints if these were Enterprise only features. There were plenty of complaints around CFMX 7 because event gateways were Enterprise-only! -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive:
RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin
I wasn't the presenter at that CFUnited, but here's my CFDJ article talking about JVM tuning which uses several of the free tools from Sun which I also presented at the CFUnited Express in Atlanta this past spring. http://labs.fusionlink.com/katapult/index.cfm?page=articles/jvmtuning John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin which generally you can find free tools to analyze. Someone had a fairly good presentation 2 years ago at cfUnited about using some of these free tools, I think he published a low cost PDF too. Adam Haskell ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284886 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Cold Fusion and VMWare?
Do you have vmware tools installed? John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Cold Fusion and VMWare? Has anyone ever used Cold Fusion with VMWare? YUP! Any ideas why we would sporadically get a connection error? Nope, it worked fine for me on my development workstation. Sorry. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284591 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Running CF7 on 64 bit Windows
I'll leave this for the New Atlanta guys but you might consider using Bluedragon since they are planning to support CF on 64-bit/Windows before Adobe does.. http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/docs/7_0/BlueDragon_ 70_Whats_New.pdf Page 32 Support for 64-bit operating systems was planned for BlueDragon 7.0, but has been de-ferred to the 7.0.1 release, now planned for release in mid-2007. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Running CF7 on 64 bit Windows From: Jochem van Dieten Jim McAtee wrote: I thought I'd asked this either here or the CFServer list and was told it wasn't a problem. Can we run CF7 on 64 bit Windows Server 2003? Dual 64bit Xeon 5130s, and IIS6 as the web server. You can run CF as a 32 bit application on 64 bit Windows. Connecting to a 64 bit webserver is not supported. So what would be the recommended course of action given the current server setup? Reconfiguring the server by reformatting and installing 32 bit Win2k3 Server would be a possibility, although not a terribly attractive one. Should we run Apache server? ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284413 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Running CF7 on 64 bit Windows
CF8 will only support 64-bit on Solaris. CF7 doesn't support 64-bit. I would stick to what is supported unless your client and you are willing deal with debugging things without Adobe support. Is there a particular reason you are wanting 64-bit? Just processing power? Thread throughput? John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Running CF7 on 64 bit Windows I thought I'd asked this either here or the CFServer list and was told it wasn't a problem. Can we run CF7 on 64 bit Windows Server 2003? Dual 64bit Xeon 5130s, and IIS6 as the web server. I'm getting the following error trying to access the CFIDE: %1 is not a valid Win32 application. Some searches lead me to not a lot of concrete information. The configuration is not fully supported by Macromedia, whatever that means. Are there no workarounds? Do we have to either wait for CF8 (surely 64 bit is fully supported in CF8, right?) or else install 32 bit Win2k3 Server? ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284404 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOT- SQL Server Management Studio
You can connect to a remote sql server with SSMS. Go to file then Object Explorer, put in the sql server address and login. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Kahn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT- SQL Server Management Studio Need to remotely connect to sql server 2005, any good alternatives to ms management studio? ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283779 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Programmatically deleting a datasource
Brent, Use the AdminAPI instead of accessing the factory directly. The adminapi will provide the ability to create/delete datasources. The underlining factory could change with with future releases of CF and the AdminAPI is there to provide a stable level of abstraction that you can use. http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/w whelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=1734.htm John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Brent Shaub [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Programmatically deleting a datasource I found some terrific code to access the admin api on House of Fusion here. Thanks to all! In experimenting with the methods, I can successfully create a SQL datasource. What I'm having trouble doing is deleting it. factory.datasourceservice.removeDatasource(theDatasourceName) seems the logically choice. In doing so, the datasource gets deleted from factory.datasourceservice.getNames() but not from factory.datasourceservice.getDatasources(). The datasource will appear in the CF Admin list, but errors if I try to edit or verify it. Something changed, just not everything. Does anyone know what piece I might be missing? Thanks in advance! ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283280 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SURVEY: Is ColdFusion OO?
The problem I have with these questions is that it's a mix match of two different things. OO is a programming paradigm. Java, ColdFusion are programming languages. Two different things here, which is important. You can program java in OO or (god help you) procedurally, but that doesn't mean Java is OO or not. This would be sort like saying is Linux or Windows OO. The question really should be phrase to say can you program or code ColdFusion to utilize the OO paradigm. Or even more precisely, does Coldfusion allow for the four basic components of the OO paradigm: Inheritance, Encapsulation, Abstraction and Polymorphism. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 2:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SURVEY: Is ColdFusion OO? On 7/8/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loaded how so? I don't think it's loaded at all, the questions are yes and no answers and the answers themselves randomized. If you think my Survey shows a bias here I would be interested to see what you think that bias is. Well, the real problem is that OO means very different things to different people. Hence Paul's comment that all this will do is cause tail-chasing purse-swinging. Because everyone has a different view of OO, I think you're going to get a landslide of No, CF is not OO, Yes, Adobe should make it more OO, random - but generally low - percentage responses and who only knows what sort of random feature requests. That's what I meant by loaded. Not biased, just loaded. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283295 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Coldfusion service crashing and unable to restart
This looks/sounds like bad ram on the server. The other issue is you should be on jvm version 1.4.2_11 at least because of the daylight savings time changes this year. Here are the instructions on updating your JVM.. http://labs.fusionlink.com/katapult/index.cfm?page=articles/daylightsavings John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion service crashing and unable to restart Hi. We're running CF MX 7.0.2.142559 on a Win2003 server and we're having the following problem: Coldfusion is periodically crashing (leaving our users with a Could not connect to jrun server error) and the only way to restart it is to restart the machine. When we try to restart the application service it is unable to restart. When I try to restart it from the command line with cfstart, I get this error: # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc005) at pc=0x080cacc2, pid=3692, tid=3932 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (1.4.2_09-b05 mixed mode) # Problematic frame: # V [jvm.dll+0xcacc2] We have noticed that if we restart the Coldfusion ODBC service first, then the application service starts up without us having to restart the machine. Our goal is to stop CF from crashing in the first place, but since we have no idea why that's happening (we're searched the log files and found no clues), I'm hoping someone can recognize the symptoms above offer us some guidance. Thanks! ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283297 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Programmatically deleting a datasource
No problem glad to help. If you were on CF 6, you would have to hack through the factory to do these things (and it's not pretty) but the admin api helps solve this and like I mention Adobe will more than likely change the underlining factory from time-to-time but the APIs should stay solid through newer versions saving you from having to re-work your code each time. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Brent Shaub [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Programmatically deleting a datasource Thanks, John, this is a much more concise, readable (and apparently reliable) way to go. In a matter of a few minutes, I was able to properly delete a datasource. Then it was straight-forward to creating way this way too. Again thanks, Brent Brent, Use the AdminAPI instead of accessing the factory directly. The adminapi will provide the ability to create/delete datasources. The underlining factory could change with with future releases of CF and the AdminAPI is there to provide a stable level of abstraction that you can use. http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/h tml/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=1734.htm John [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283301 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
So ColdFusion is Object Oriented after all, I have always thought so and am supported by the numbers Just a quick point here, a simple informal poll isn't going to provide you with any statistical significance. You think CF is OO and some people agree with you that's about all you can honestly say by this. Interesting results, thanks for doing the poll. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dale Fraser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? After reading a Blog Entry of Ray Camden, in a general comment, he made this statement. CF is not OO. CF should NOT be OO. And lastly, I pray to God that CF never becomes OO. I didn't agree, I actually think ColdFusion is OO, and thought that view especially from Ray was odd, then I thought, well perhaps I have it wrong, perhaps CF is not OO and i'm the only one who thinks it is. So I ran a Survey, posted to both cftalk and cfaussie. The results are quite interesting. 1. Do you consider ColdFusion to be Object Oriented? Yes: 66% No: 34% 2. What percentage do you think ColdFusion achieves the ability to code OO style. 0-20%: 2% 20-40%: 4% 40-60%: 24% 60-80%: 44% 80-100%: 26% 3. Would you like the Adobe ColdFusion team to further develop ColdFusion OO features? Yes: 58% No: 42% 4. What is the number one feature missing from ColdFusion from an OO point of view? None / Pass: 52% Overloading: 16% Constructors: 10% Overriding: 4% Interfaces: 4% Multiple Inheritance: 2% Serialization: 2% Other: 10% That last one was free text, so I combined a lot of dumb answers into None / Pass and lots of single votes into Other. I consider that CF already does Overriding, but I left it in the stats and CF8 does Interfaces but I left it in also. But here is my summary of the survey Of the people surveyed 66% of people think that ColdFusion is an Object Oriented language, 70% of people think that the OO features are between 60-100%, just over half 58% of people think more development needs to be done and the main two things missing are Overloading and Constructors. So ColdFusion is Object Oriented after all, I have always thought so and am supported by the numbers, we here code our entire application in a OO way so to me it was a no brainer. You could read deeper that if Adobe just added Overloading and Constructors that the CF OO feel would be almost complete but then again 52% of people passed on what the main missing feature was. Regards Dale Fraser ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283338 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Stolen server.
Dave - they secured this facility as well as any ISP is going to secure it.. unless you have armed guards at your office :) This was in a very nice neighborhood on a main street - where this type of thing is very rare. Most reputable ISPs provide much greater physical security than you'll find at an office building, and many do, in fact, have armed guard Just adding to the point. FusionLink maintains it's server racks at the ATT/IBM datacenter here in Atlanta. There are biometrics, armed guards and several levels of security/procedures. It's not cheap or fun at times, but security has to be all inclusive if it will have any impact. It makes little sense to have network security, firewalls, encrypted data, etc. if a person could simply walk into the building and take a server. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using a Custom COM Object
Which windows account is Coldfusion running under? John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 11:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using a Custom COM Object Tried that Dave didn't work. gave me the java.lang.Exception: Invalid COM object error. An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object. The cause of this exception was that: coldfusion.runtime.com.ComObjectInstantiationException: An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object. Thoughts? Do they have to do anything special when creating the object to get it to work? jonese On 7/5/07, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a small sample VB program that uses the object (which, of course, has to be registered): Private Sub Form_Load() Dim oEncryptAs Object Dim sInput As String Dim sOutput As String Set oEncrypt = CreateObject(CustomEncrypt.Class1) sInput = You String To Encrypt Goes Here sOutput = oEncrypt.EncodeString(sInput) MsgBox Input = sInput vbCrLf Encoded = sOutput vbCrLf Decoded = oEncrypt.DecodeString(sOutput) Set oEncrypt = Nothing End Sub -end Try this: cfset oEncrypt = CreateObject(com, CustomEncrypt.Class1) cfset sInput = You String To Encrypt Goes Here cfset sOutput = oEncrypt.EncodeString(sInput) cfset sDecryptedOutput = oEncrypt.DecodeString(sOutput) Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283081 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using a Custom COM Object
I figured you already did that :) For others who run across this. You need to register the dll with the regsvr32 command so the system knows you what you are calling . If you run CF under an account other than the Local System (which you should). There may be some permissions issues depending on the permissions you give the account. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using a Custom COM Object Got it registered now it work. Thanks michael! jonese On 7/6/07, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you registered the object yet? -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using a Custom COM Object Tried that Dave didn't work. gave me the java.lang.Exception: Invalid COM object error. An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object. The cause of this exception was that: coldfusion.runtime.com.ComObjectInstantiationException: An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object. Thoughts? Do they have to do anything special when creating the object to get it to work? jonese ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283091 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Dreamweaver extensions for CF8
I think there was dw/homesite extensions link with the cf 8 beta download. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Dreamweaver extensions for CF8 There's a few people here that havent switched to CFEclipse and are still using Dreamweaver. Does anyone know if Adobe is planning on releasing CF8 extensions for Dreamweaver? Thanks ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283112 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Coldfusion MX7 Developer Exam for certification, a must? Wher e is the location of the exam?
Another thing you may ask is if they are a member of a local ColdFusion Users Group or one of the worldwide UG that hold their meetings online (and if not why). It may seem silly but I've found that programmers that are active in their community generally have a better skillset and are far more knowledgable since they actually think about coding outside of work. CF certification isn't in a good state. There needs to be more levels to it and the testing needs to have simulations like the Cisco tests have. In the Cisco tests, they give you a IOS command prompt and the question is set up a RIP between two networks, etc. You will either know the answer or not. In CF, it wouldn't take much to give a IDE screen and simply say that you need a component that has one method that returns a recursive list of cfm files in a directory. You will either solve this in a few lines or spend a few hours scratching your head :) John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jaime Metcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 7:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion MX7 Developer Exam for certification, a must? Wher e is the location of the exam? -Original Message- From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 6 July 2007 4:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion MX7 Developer Exam for certification, a must? Wher e is the location of the exam? Out of the last five or so that we hired, ONE really knows ColdFusion. +1 Then there was the one. Great resume, extensive experience with SQL, CF, and other things; great responses from previous employers. Had to fire him after a week. He didn't even know do a simple table join. (we now ask basic technical questions during the interview) Amen to that. However, I also have scant regard for certification. I now do two things: 1. Just talk to them. If someone is knowledgeable and enthusiastic it will show. And I do expect my programmers to be able to speak. In an interview, I expect a programmer to a) tell me something I didn't know - they're keen and up with all the buzzwords, right? and b) get so intrigued with something I tell them that they forget to be the poised interviewee and go into problem-solving mode. 2. Ask them to read out load from a page of code (any page). If they say nothing more than this is a loop followed by a query I'm not impressed. If they say Hey, it looks like you've coded your own free text search here. Are you trying to work around the file limits in Verity? Did you try Lucene? I *am* impressed. Jaime Metcher ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283025 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Dreamweaver and Vista
CFEclipse http://www.cfeclipse.org/ John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jenny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver and Vista CFE ? -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 July 2007 01:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver and Vista My advise to jenny and will is to ditch dw for cfe, but i cant say if it runs on vista because I havent tried it. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:282764 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF8 Ent Instances
On security, I want to be clear here about this. I understand people like to play fast and loose with these things, but when setting up a server configuration, you should always 'assume' the data is important and needs to be secure. Even if you know for a fact that it isn't. Why say it this way. Well a developer could change this situation very easily. Even if the data is not important today. Some day down the road a developer could alter a table and start inserting credit card info or other critical data. The developer may not realize or be on the same page as the sys admin that set up the server. Now you have a problem. On system resources, the same holds true. You can easily run MySQL on a low traffic web server, but things can change very easily. It's best the plan for the worse. It'll save you a lot of headaches down the road. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF8 Ent Instances Assuming the data is important and needs to be secure, then you are correct. However, not all data is important. The server these guys were describing was unlikely to have anything remotely sensitive on it, which is why they were comfortable running everything on one box. I should have clarified that. Their point was they ran a site with heavy traffic and didn't see their server get bogged down due to the database use, like many SQL Server sites experience, because MySQL uses fewer system resources than SQL Server. They were also running PHP on Unix. -Mike Chabot On 6/21/07, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may chew up less resources, but that doesn't get around the security issues. Every 'expert' I've ever spoken with on this would agree with putting the db on a separate box, behind the firewall, and without direct access to the net, utilizing full authenticated-only access from specific sources within the internal lan, and typically on a non-standard port. ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281790 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF8 Ent Instances
Just as an example, a lot of merchant account agreements now specifically call for these types of security procedures. So if you're doing e-commerce, you may want to read up on your agreements. You may be legally required to follow points such as these. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF8 Ent Instances On Thursday 21 Jun 2007, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: issues. Every 'expert' I've ever spoken with on this would agree with putting the db on a separate box, behind the firewall, and without direct access to the net, utilizing full authenticated-only access from specific sources within the internal lan, and typically on a non-standard port. That's massive overkill for most people's applications, I expect. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to dynamically participate compelling information on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281807 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Standard or Enterprise Edition?
Yes, standard will run multiple sites. Enterprise simply has some added features that are nice for multiple sites, like sandboxing the applications, etc. By default CF runs under the local System account (look at the Services) which has only local admin rights, no network access to say the active directory,etc. By the way, the CF service should be changed to it's own account that has just the rights that CF needs to run. Having an application server with full admin rights to the box is a large security risk. Now, back to your question, you can have CF under a active domain account that has network access to shares on other servers etc. Simply change the account to the domain account and type in the password. Restart the service and you should be able access a mapped network resource. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Standard or Enterprise Edition? Can someone pls clarify. From the Adobe site, it reads as if Standard Edition (of CFMX 7) supports one site only; if you are running 2 or more sites, even on one server, you need Enterprise? 2nd question. Does CFMX developer edition CFFILE allow me to see the file structure on another box. Somebody said yes, but CF has to be logged in somehow, and gave me very straightforward directions for doing that - which I immediately lost. Recap for the dumb kid at the back, please? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281805 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF8 Ent Instances
Considering CF8 is still beta and we don't know the applications you are trying to run on this. The answer is it depends. As a side note, putting a database server on the same box is a bad move. The web server and database server should be separate to obtain the best in security and utilization of your hardware. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jason Manaigre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF8 Ent Instances Hi everyone, will be launching a new server soon, specs are: Server Dual Xeon Quad Core 1.6 Ghz (Clovertown E5310) Ram 4 GB ECC DDR2 SDRAM Hard Disk 4 x 74 GB 10K SATA Raptor RAID 5 (Adaptec Controller) Windows 2003 Server Standard CF8 Enterprise and MySQL5 on the same box until we can afford a second db server. The question is how many instances of CF can generally be run on this server config? Thanks everyone. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281682 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4