[cfaussie] Re: Can you generate Word documents with CF without using COM?
Time for GarethE to espouse the brill iText library, methinks (hint, hint GarethI know you're reading this) Really dirty method (and limited): you can poke text holes in an RTF document - open MSWord and add text - save as RTF - open the RTF doc in notepad, searching for the text you entered. Viola! instant RTF template. - replace text with variables and use cffile, cfsavecontent and string manip to insert your values On 08/02/06, Nathan Drury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've been tasked with generating a Word (or RTF) document using CF. I've done this before using COM (need to purchase Word and it's not very stable at all) but am wondering if there is any acceptable non-COM alternative. I'm aware of POI HWPF but as it is still in early development I thought I'd see if anyone knew of any other alternatives before I started trying POI. Thanks Nathan
[cfaussie] Re: perplexing SQL Server database permissions problem
Kay, fogive the vagueness of this reply but I can't remember the exact search words in google to find *exactly* it. I've read about this but haven't experianced this issue myself... I think it comes down to what Paul was hinting at While this will create the necessary login IDs, what it will not do is map the login IDs on the new server to the database user IDs from the database that was just attached. This applies to login IDs using SQL Server security, not NT Authentication security. Logins created using NT Authentication are automatically mapped for you. from http://www.sql-server-performance.com/sql_server_maintenance.asp about 2/3 way down. here's the section in full. can I suggest a bit more google-ing along these lines? hope this helps. gotta go. barry.b If you need to move a database from one server to another, one of the quickest ways is to detach the database using sp_detach_db, copy the database file to the new server, and then attach the database using sp_attach_db. (You can also use the Copy Database Wizard in SQL Server 2000 to perform essentially the same task.) Keep in mind that if you do this, that the login IDs that match the database user IDs in the moved database must exist on the new server, otherwise any current database user IDs in the moved database will not work. (The Copy Database Wizard in SQL Server 2000 can copy login ids for you.) To create the SQL Server login IDs on the new server, (if you are not using the Copy Database Wizard), you can create them manually, or you can script the logins IDs on the old server and then run the script on the new server. While this will create the necessary login IDs, what it will not do is map the login IDs on the new server to the database user IDs from the database that was just attached. This applies to login IDs using SQL Server security, not NT Authentication security. Logins created using NT Authentication are automatically mapped for you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFC extends attribute
We use CFC's heavily in our application. Because they rock good to see, Jer..more power to you can I throw in a quick thought? if you're wanting to make extends dynamic, would you consider a mix-in approach where you're decorating the CFC with functionality of another, as opposed to straight inheritance? different technique, sure but very dynamic... just a thought. barry.b On 21/02/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote this on my blog about different ways to deploy cfc's in a coldfusion app. Part of what it covers is hard coding typing and extends, you may find it useful: http://www.compoundtheory.com/?action=displayPostID=64 However, to point, there is no 'real' way of making it more dynamic, as it currenty stands, extends has to be hard coded. Hope that helps. Mark On 21/02/06, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I sort of already know the answer for this question. However, I'm trying to spread some different persepective on it. We use CFC's heavily in our application. Because they rock. One thing we use is the extends attribute. Now the disadvantage to the extends is that it has to be hard coded i.e. cfcomponent name=cust_comp_index extends=sandbox.cfdology.1_1.Core_CFC.comp_index cffunction name=dsp_index test /cffunction /cfcomponent What I would like to do is make the extends attribute dynamic or at least part of it. Currently we are using CF mappings. But I'm just trying to stream line it slightly. Can anyone thing of a way to make it more dynamic more so to what I'm doing now? Jeremy -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com ICQ: 3094740 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDu Who's going ?
it's all really tricky: if you put sydney and melbourne ppl on the same table, it'll start a punch up. if you seperate them to two tables you'll start an animal house style food fight. damned if you do and On 22/02/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be doing the banquet as well. how is the seating for this arranged, is it first in best seats or are they prearranged? Maybe we can all sit at the 1 table? I have no idea how it works. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: National Adobe UG Meeting
Robin, you really have missed your calling as the writer of copy and protagonist of prose get ye self to the Fairfax publishers and see if there's a sunday suppliment just waiting for your by-line... we're expecting a post-webDU report to rival The Man From Snowy River: There was movement at the airport, for the word had passed around... OK, off you go... On 22/02/06, Robin Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date:Wednesday 1st March 2006 Time:5:30 pm early registration and cash bar, for 7:00 pm meeting start Where: Star City Casino, Sydney Australia, Webdu conference venue Topic: Hello Adobe! Once again the herds are gathering - the dusty expanse of Australasia thunders to the impact of hundreds of developers falling over as they rise staggering from their desks for their annual migration to Webdu, while the skies of the world fill with the twittering calls of the presenters, able to cover astonishing distances over water due to their massive bodily reserves of frequent flyer points... The Adobe team in the Pacific will take folks through how the new Adobe looks both globally and locally. To whet your appetite for technical possibilities the two Marks will demo an application integrating Flex with LiveCycle. The evening will finish up with an Ask Adobe session where you can ping local and overseas Adobe types with any questions you may have. Steve Lambley, Mark Szulc and Mark Blair will host the session. Join us for socialising, drinks and early registration from 5:30. Note you do not need to attend Webdu to come to the meeting. See you there! __ Robin Hilliard National UG Coordinator --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDu Who's going ?
but a little company over here called Lockheed Martin BASTARD! couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Since he's such a good mate of mine, I'd be very grateful if you can show him and his wife some aussie hospitality and make sure they enjoy themselves. sounds like a chalenge to me. did you drop any hints on who was more sociable and welcoming - Sydney-siders** or Brisbane-ites? sounds like there'll be a decient number of each... ** yeah, trick question, I know. On 22/02/06, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was planning to be there, but a little company over here called Lockheed Martin have put me in a pair of financial manacles, so I'll have to pass. For all of you who've been promising me CFEclipse beers for the last couple of years, you can do me a huge favor and take care of Rob Rohan. I pretty much twisted his arm to get him to go to webDU, now I feel like a complete turd for dropping out at the last minute and leaving him there on his own. In case you don't already know, Rob is the original founder of the CFEclipse project and has probably written more code than anyone else in the project. He's certainly done more to make CFEclipse the tool it is today than anyone else. He just doesn't make a lot of noise about it. He's one of only two or three people I've ever met who has my total respect and that's quite an achievement in itself. There are no other programmers on that list. He's also the author of Neuromancer which is an asynchronous JS library for talking to webservices. Not forgetting the other 20 or so projects for various different platforms and environments that he somehow manages to find time for. Since he's such a good mate of mine, I'd be very grateful if you can show him and his wife some aussie hospitality and make sure they enjoy themselves. Spike On 2/21/06, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me, doing the same as Darren, Wednesday morning for a workshop, back home Friday night.. and I must say.. losing an hour on the way down is a bit annoying, but the 20-30 minute trip back is like jumping on a concord or something. Hopefully this year I'll be a little less nervous on the flight coming home ay Darren. (Who might remember from last year, the plane was delayed because of storms, then the ride was a bit bumpy.). Cheers Gareth. Rosemary Norwood wrote: Yup, myself and a team colleague are among that number. Rosemary Norwood On 2/22/06, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going. Flying down Wednesday morning and flying out late Friday night. Doing the banquet too. There's a bunch of other peole from the large banking company I work for also going. Darren Tracey -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDu Who's going ?
I'd throw in if only to hear the dulcet tones of his Irish accent (esp if we can force feed him a few ales) but I think he made it clear that he was constrained by the short'n'curleys or is that NOT the case? On 22/02/06, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who here is gonna chip in to get spike over here? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spike Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:46 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: WebDu Who's going ? On 2/21/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but a little company over here called Lockheed Martin BASTARD! couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. You calling me a BASTARD? Cheeky monkey! Since he's such a good mate of mine, I'd be very grateful if you can show him and his wife some aussie hospitality and make sure they enjoy themselves. sounds like a chalenge to me. did you drop any hints on who was more sociable and welcoming - Sydney-siders** or Brisbane-ites? sounds like there'll be a decient number of each... I didn't take any sides in that particular debate, and I believe that it's better to let him and Kristin decide. I'll be taking notes when he gets back :-) ** yeah, trick question, I know. On 22/02/06, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was planning to be there, but a little company over here called Lockheed Martin have put me in a pair of financial manacles, so I'll have to pass. For all of you who've been promising me CFEclipse beers for the last couple of years, you can do me a huge favor and take care of Rob Rohan. I pretty much twisted his arm to get him to go to webDU, now I feel like a complete turd for dropping out at the last minute and leaving him there on his own. In case you don't already know, Rob is the original founder of the CFEclipse project and has probably written more code than anyone else in the project. He's certainly done more to make CFEclipse the tool it is today than anyone else. He just doesn't make a lot of noise about it. He's one of only two or three people I've ever met who has my total respect and that's quite an achievement in itself. There are no other programmers on that list. He's also the author of Neuromancer which is an asynchronous JS library for talking to webservices. Not forgetting the other 20 or so projects for various different platforms and environments that he somehow manages to find time for. Since he's such a good mate of mine, I'd be very grateful if you can show him and his wife some aussie hospitality and make sure they enjoy themselves. Spike On 2/21/06, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me, doing the same as Darren, Wednesday morning for a workshop, back home Friday night.. and I must say.. losing an hour on the way down is a bit annoying, but the 20-30 minute trip back is like jumping on a concord or something. Hopefully this year I'll be a little less nervous on the flight coming home ay Darren. (Who might remember from last year, the plane was delayed because of storms, then the ride was a bit bumpy.). Cheers Gareth. Rosemary Norwood wrote: Yup, myself and a team colleague are among that number. Rosemary Norwood On 2/22/06, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going. Flying down Wednesday morning and flying out late Friday night. Doing the banquet too. There's a bunch of other peole from the large banking company I work for also going. Darren Tracey -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Postcode search
David, forgive me for being curious but what's the privacy implications involved? I realise it's not you but AP but still... quote the QAS tool allows us to check (at the time someone tries to submit an online form) that they are putting in a genuine address. If it is not a 'real' address as far as Australia Post is concerned, they have to try again. There is a database behind it which we host here, and they send updates for it on a regular basis. /quote I've never used your service but in theory you have my address on tap too. There is a database behind it which we host here and heaven help the person if the details supplied by AP are incorrect... sorry, I've gone all 1984-ish recently... On 22/02/06, David Pietersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoops... I should have looked at the sample site! Yeah, the QAS tool allows us to check (at the time someone tries to submit an online form) that they are putting in a genuine address. If it is not a 'real' address as far as Australia Post is concerned, they have to try again. There is a database behind it which we host here, and they send updates for it on a regular basis. The version we have is also used for our internal applications. It works a treat. Super Vision? dp. On 22/02/06, Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi DP, Did you like Super Vision the other night? :D On 2/22/06, David Pietersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use a tool here that checks the whole address to ensure it is real... QAS- http://www.auspost.com.au/BCP/0,1080,CH2418%257EMO19,00.html It's actually a postcode search, as in enter your postcode and we'll show you your nearest stores. Looks like the QAS tool is more for validating postcodes, or am I not thinking laterally enough? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: [OT] Re: Commonwealth Games warps the space time continuum
don't worry, Uncle Pete's onto it. The best form of defence is attack and the plans to annex northern NSW is well under way - all the way down to Byron Bay (NewSouthWelshers don't know how to use sunshine so we'll relieve them of it - that's what the Currumbin bypass is all about: roll the tanks down the M1) we'd have fast rail down there too (you listening to this, QR Barnes?) except some bloke called Joe BeJokel Peanut-Farmer dug it up years ago. Our advance Cane-toad troops have already infiltrated Flemmington Markets What's the point of running a stick all around the place if its not burning?! well, after the Olympics, Her Royalship got in trouble with a bit of a prank and check the flame on this one! On 3/20/06, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren Tracey wrote: My question from all this is this: Why wasn't the Queen's batton on fire? What's the point of running a stick all around the place if its not burning?! Yeah... what's with that? It's like a cheap version of the chaser on KITT... but not red... and doesn't make whooshwhoosh sounds... -- Haikal Saadh, Applications Programmer Teaching and Learning Support Services K405, Queensland University of Technology, Kelvin Grove Campus [EMAIL PROTECTED], 3864 8633 CRICOS No. 00213J --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Flex 2 Beta 2 and the Adobe Flex Developer Derby
EXCLUDING QUEBEC gee, and I thought it was only the English that were such Frank-a-phobes On 3/21/06, Brett Payne-Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After reading OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES I figured that posting this to cfaussie was a bit of a waste of time... BUT, if anybody from Adobe Australia happens to be reading this then perhaps take the hint... A bit of motivation will go a long way here. I know there are a lot of CF developers (well CFUG-WA members anyway!) who are very keen to have a look at Flex. And a 42-inch plasma TV would be a whole lot of motivation! And maybe even just an Xbox 360! Cheers, Brett B) Darren Tracey wrote: Flex 2 Beta 2 is out. Need a reason to finally give Flex 2 a try? How about getting a shot at being one of 6 (yes 6) developers who will receive: 42-inch Samsung plasma TV plus a Microsoft Xbox 360. Details at: http://labs.macromedia.com/showcase/special/flexderby/ Take note of the part of the terms and conditions that say this: CONTEST IS OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES OR CANADA, EXCLUDING QUEBEC, WHO ARE AGE 18 YEARS OR OLDER. Regards Darren --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: query of query error CF7
and if you take out the cfqueryparam, what happens? On 3/30/06, Gavin Cooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simple stuff. here's a dump of it (until i fix the problem!) http://202.125.174.217/go/hsc/std-packs/ I put the xxs in the first row because if i don't i get a different error: 15090G is not numeric (row 88 of query) Gav On 3/30/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What sort of data is in the query? Mark On 3/30/06, Gavin Cooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some code that worked fine in CF 6.1 but doesn't work in CF7. I try to do a simple query of query like this cfquery name=qFilteredSpList dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qSpList WHERE course_type = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#filterCourseType# ORDER BY course_name /cfquery and i get this error: Query Of Queries runtime error.br Unsupported Cast Excpetion: Casting to type NULL is unsupported. -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com ICQ: 3094740 -- www.gavcooney.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: query of query error CF7
sorry, bit too obtuce... cfquery name=qFilteredSpList dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qSpList WHERE course_type = #filterCourseType# ORDER BY course_name /cfquery On 3/30/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and if you take out the cfqueryparam, what happens? On 3/30/06, Gavin Cooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simple stuff. here's a dump of it (until i fix the problem!) http://202.125.174.217/go/hsc/std-packs/ I put the xxs in the first row because if i don't i get a different error: 15090G is not numeric (row 88 of query) Gav On 3/30/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What sort of data is in the query? Mark On 3/30/06, Gavin Cooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some code that worked fine in CF 6.1 but doesn't work in CF7. I try to do a simple query of query like this cfquery name=qFilteredSpList dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qSpList WHERE course_type = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#filterCourseType# ORDER BY course_name /cfquery and i get this error: Query Of Queries runtime error.br Unsupported Cast Excpetion: Casting to type NULL is unsupported. -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com ICQ: 3094740 -- www.gavcooney.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: query of query error CF7
I wonder? cfquery name=qFilteredSpList dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qSpList WHERE course_type = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#filterCourseType# and course_type is not null !--- HERE --- ORDER BY course_name /cfquery there *was* a change to QofQ (and to do with nulls) but for the life of me I can't remember exactly what On 3/30/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry, bit too obtuce... cfquery name=qFilteredSpList dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qSpList WHERE course_type = #filterCourseType# ORDER BY course_name /cfquery On 3/30/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and if you take out the cfqueryparam, what happens? On 3/30/06, Gavin Cooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simple stuff. here's a dump of it (until i fix the problem!) http://202.125.174.217/go/hsc/std-packs/ I put the xxs in the first row because if i don't i get a different error: 15090G is not numeric (row 88 of query) Gav On 3/30/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What sort of data is in the query? Mark On 3/30/06, Gavin Cooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some code that worked fine in CF 6.1 but doesn't work in CF7. I try to do a simple query of query like this cfquery name=qFilteredSpList dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qSpList WHERE course_type = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#filterCourseType# ORDER BY course_name /cfquery and i get this error: Query Of Queries runtime error.br Unsupported Cast Excpetion: Casting to type NULL is unsupported. -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com ICQ: 3094740 -- www.gavcooney.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: what's the 'proper way' to remove comma formatting from numbers
LSParseCurrency (yes, you don't have currency but it would work here too) gets rid of pound signs, euro, $, commas, etc and turns the number into a decimal to four places. ..IIRC HTH barry.b On 4/7/06, Adam Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kay, I like a regular expression for this sort of thing.. but it's just personal preference as I am often turning $10,000 into 1. I will also turn $10,000.00 into 1.00 reReplace(string,[^0-9.],,all) This will remove anything that isn't a number or a . (leaving decimal points in place) Cheers, Adam -Original Message- From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 7 April 2006 11:35 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] what's the 'proper way' to remove comma formatting from numbers Hey guys, I can think of all sorts of ways to actually do it, but what's the most correct/bulletproof way to turn 10,000 into 1? -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.zombiecoder.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: query function to delete a row from a query
is there anything wrong with doing a query to leave behind what you don't want?
cfquery dbtype=query name=temp
select * from origQofQ
where not #condition#
/cfquery
cfset origQofQ = temp /
On 4/6/06, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just my opinion, but that UDF is yuk. Imagine looping over a large query
-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dale Fraser
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 6:57 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: query function to delete a row from a query
From cflib, cflib is your friend.
cfscript
/**
* Removes rows from a query.
* Added var col = ;
* No longer using Evaluate. Function is MUCH smaller now.
*
* @param Query Query to be modified
* @param Rows Either a number or a list of numbers
* @return This function returns a query.
* @author Raymond Camden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* @version 2, October 11, 2001
*/
function QueryDeleteRows(Query,Rows) {
var tmp = QueryNew(Query.ColumnList);
var i = 1;
var x = 1;
for(i=1;i lte Query.recordCount; i=i+1) {
if(not ListFind(Rows,i)) {
QueryAddRow(tmp,1);
for(x=1;x lte ListLen(tmp.ColumnList);x=x+1) {
QuerySetCell(tmp,
ListGetAt(tmp.ColumnList,x), query[ListGetAt(tmp.ColumnList,x)][i]);
}
}
}
return tmp;
}
/cfscript
Regards
Dale Fraser
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Behalf Of Andrew Mercer
Sent: Friday, 7 April 2006 17:54 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: query function to delete a row from a query
doesnt look like you can do a delete in QoQ
On 4/7/06, Andrew Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know if there is something like queryDeleteRow() {the
opersite of queryAddRow()} in CF?
google found this in a blueDragon file
otherwise I guess i will have to do a QoQ to do it
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[cfaussie] Re: query function to delete a row from a query
I ask in case of any performance reasons not to do so.
I've left behind (previous project) an important tool/CFC that uses
this leave behind query method in important areas. If I've made a
faux pas in doing so, I'd like to know
On 4/10/06, Andrew Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that is what I went with before the deleteRow functions came in
On 4/10/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is there anything wrong with doing a query to leave behind what you don't
want?
cfquery dbtype=query name=temp
select * from origQofQ
where not #condition#
/cfquery
cfset origQofQ = temp /
On 4/6/06, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just my opinion, but that UDF is yuk. Imagine looping over a large
query
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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
Of Dale Fraser
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 6:57 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: query function to delete a row from a query
From cflib, cflib is your friend.
cfscript
/**
* Removes rows from a query.
* Added var col = ;
* No longer using Evaluate. Function is MUCH smaller now.
*
* @param Query Query to be modified
* @param Rows Either a number or a list of numbers
* @return This function returns a query.
* @author Raymond Camden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* @version 2, October 11, 2001
*/
function QueryDeleteRows(Query,Rows) {
var tmp = QueryNew(Query.ColumnList);
var i = 1;
var x = 1;
for(i=1;i lte Query.recordCount ; i=i+1) {
if(not ListFind(Rows,i)) {
QueryAddRow(tmp,1);
for(x=1;x lte ListLen(tmp.ColumnList);x=x+1) {
QuerySetCell(tmp,
ListGetAt(tmp.ColumnList,x), query[ListGetAt(tmp.ColumnList,x)][i]);
}
}
}
return tmp;
}
/cfscript
Regards
Dale Fraser
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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Andrew Mercer
Sent: Friday, 7 April 2006 17:54 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: query function to delete a row from a query
doesnt look like you can do a delete in QoQ
On 4/7/06, Andrew Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know if there is something like queryDeleteRow()
{the
opersite of queryAddRow()} in CF?
google found this in a blueDragon file
otherwise I guess i will have to do a QoQ to do it
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[cfaussie] Re: Flex 2 Beta on the Mac?
aye, Chris, that *should* work what about CF connectivity and Flex Data Services? the only way a bunch of us here will be able to get anything out of this Beta is to work on it at home - on Macs. we've some way but the really important bits (CF conn, Flex data) any idea? On 4/12/06, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mxml compiler is a jar file, so you should be able to get it running. If you access to a windows machine, you should be able to get the plugin version of Flex builder, somehow. Even without Flex builder, you should be able to use Eclipse and some XML editor to create the source files and then compile it. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Flex 2 Beta on the Mac?
CF does work on the Mac aye, and a great thing too so all you need to do is get the connectivity files and install them (somehow). connectivity: we're thinking that it's just some Jar's, AS files and a CF setting or two in an xml file (hoping anyway) no shortage of windows boxes at work to extract files from create a virtual machine with windows and install Flex and CF on there and use virtual networking to connect from the mac to the server. desperation mode, eh? we're encouraged by seeing a java version of Flex Data services. keeping fingers crossed. I take it that no one has actually *done* any of this yet? this bleeding edge business: it hurts! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Flex 2 Beta on the Mac?
for any Mac users out there reading this, the bottom line is that ChrisV is right: the *should* is correct. and Simeon Bateman (http://simb.net/blog/index.cfm) has the scars to prove it. FYI b On 4/12/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF does work on the Mac aye, and a great thing too so all you need to do is get the connectivity files and install them (somehow). connectivity: we're thinking that it's just some Jar's, AS files and a CF setting or two in an xml file (hoping anyway) no shortage of windows boxes at work to extract files from create a virtual machine with windows and install Flex and CF on there and use virtual networking to connect from the mac to the server. desperation mode, eh? we're encouraged by seeing a java version of Flex Data services. keeping fingers crossed. I take it that no one has actually *done* any of this yet? this bleeding edge business: it hurts! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: comparing two queries - which records are different
Andrew: Select field_1 , field_2 ... , field_17 from new_query where field_1 not in (select field_1 from old_query) AND (...the other 16 fields?) the uniqueness may not be confined to just one field/column. I think it's a unique row that's different OR (more likely) duplicate rows of the same data (but unique in a table) Scott: the Excel idea is a worthy fall-back plan. wouldn't mind seeing if there was a simpler SQL way first if it was SQLServer2005 I could use the new Except keyword On 4/20/06, Scott Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you left outer joins in query-of-queries? I don't know if you can, but if so, that would be a good palce to start. otherwise, order the fields the same, paste the results into excel, and run your eye over it. :-0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/04/2006 11:37 am hi all I have 2 multi-tabled queries that I need to compare. the origional is horribly written and returns 1242 results. the new improved query returns 1245 results. I want to see what the 3 different results are. any suggestions? SQLServer2000 thanx barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?
We're just seeing demand exceed supply at the moment - if you believe in market forces and regression to the mean this should sort itself out soon. how? like this?: lets not do this next project in ColdFusion - we can't get (and keep) enough CF developers and the number of CF projects drop and therefore the demand for CF developers? or is there another way to bring balance to the [market] force? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?
at least there's some chat along these lines: The Coldfusion Podcast Episode 19 - Where is Coldfusion? http://www.coldfusionpodcast.com/node/52 (from about 5 minutes in) they make an interesting point about Adobe marketing to people (unlike Macromedia) - have a listen especially when you equate PHP's viral advertising...which also applies to R'on'R - how to build a buzz around a product everyones learning .NET and/or LAMP based development these days yeah, I've seen that. damn shame that. On 5/5/06, Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just on this... Has anyone tried telling a group of non-ColdFusion types that you are looking for a ColdFusion developer? After the laughter subsides I get a pretty standard response that CF is on its way out, everyones learning .NET and/or LAMP based development these days. If that is the general feeling in the industry then it's not much of a surprise that new blood isn't entering the field. Its interesting what you hear when you leave Adobe's Reality Distortion Field. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Friday, 5 May 2006 1:44 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone? Robin, I had no idea you had positions in melbourne? There doesn't seem to be a huge amount of opportunity in Melbourne as opposed to other cities (Sydney, Brisbane) for CF positions. When I was looking for a new job ~ 2-4 months ago, I was scrounging to find CF development positions. It was actually quite hard. The channels I looked through were CFJobs (nothing), it.Seek (where I found my current job), and mycareer (almost a mirror image of seek) That being said, I also believe that there is a skill shortage in terms of quality CF developers. Those of us that are employed are kept on board, and those of us that looking, tend to get snapped up pretty quick. I turned around my job in about 3/4 months, which is reasonably fast considering 2 of those months were december and january - where (a) nothing ever happens in Australia and (b) I was in the US all of Jan. Mark On 5/5/06, Robin Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/05/2006, at 5:00 PM, Ryan Sabir wrote: Where are all the good CF developers these days? From what I can tell, they're happily employed as CF developers... We have several Sydney positions (including yours) and two in Melbourne I can't fill at present. What we're experiencing is a lack of experienced CF developers freelancing or fishing for new jobs through traditional channels. Some other factors: * Far less CF training going on at the moment, and less new blood as a result. This may change shortly however - I know that Dynamic are running three Advanced CF courses this year (I'm the instructor). I'm sure Geoff will be running more courses too. * Many companies seem to be looking for people at tech lead levels, but are simply not offering enough remuneration to attract this type of developer. I think this is because a lot of companies using CF are expanding quickly at present but are reluctant to offer more because they don't know how long the boom is going to last. We're just seeing demand exceed supply at the moment - if you believe in market forces and regression to the mean this should sort itself out soon. Robin __ Robin Hilliard Director - RocketBoots Pty Ltd Consulting . Software Licensing . Recruitment . Training http://www.rocketboots.com.au For schedule/availability call Pamela Higgins: w+61 7 5451 0362 m+61 419 677 151 f+61 3 9923 6261 e[EMAIL PROTECTED] or Direct: m+61 418 414 341 e[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Worldwide Adobe Licensing - Volume discounts now start at one point *** -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com ICQ: 3094740 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Developer Melbourne
not necessarily .quote: src=http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog50.html; The trick is that money is not everyone's number one motivator, in fact, it's not even the number one consideration for most people. I recommend a three-pronged approach to hiring people: 1. Make the workplace attractive, 2. Eliminate obstacles, and 3. Provide benefits which are more valuable than the money they cost. ./quote which are the reasons I'm happy working at this place here. On 5/8/06, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $90k hands up all CF developers earning 90k+ I wan't someone who wants a good job, not a huge pay packet, your obviously only interested in money. Define a good job? I always thought one aspect of a good job is that it pays well. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Developer Melbourne
Chris: I hope points 1 and 3 are tailored to the individual being hired. read the article. yes, it is subjective. one mans poision (or whatever)... Dale: can you elaborate on what your workplace does to achieve these three points. mate, not on a public list containing former (and potential future - nothing is for ever) employers. However, I put it to you that good employers know that they are (good) - lack of people leaving is usually a good sign... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?
cf on linux may be cheaper then .net on windoze especially when you consider total cost of ownership what with Microsoft Licencing. Check it out- it ain't cheap. they lock you in with (virtually) free dev tools (anyone still got their freebie VS2005? mine's unloved...) and then sting you with the licence fees. IMHO, the only downside to linux-based is getting the expertise/Guru(s) to get the best out of it (the achillies heal on *nix TOC). A sysadmin friend of mine is doing amazing things at his work with FreeBSD, donated computers and a bunch of Win98 thin clients. Their sister business (MS everything) is one big blank check to write eh my 2c On 5/8/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to say it but my little team hear, may have to jump to .NET soon but I don't want to make that decesion. But if the clients want it we do it. Hi Jeremy very funny cfdump joke now if pricing is simply the only reason for changeing why not php or 1 of the many other free languages over .net? you already said they are using windoze, so no use me saying cf on linux may be cheaper then .net on windoze :S M@ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?
*nix TOC oops. I meant (unix-based) TCO (total Cost of ownership) ...I'm lysDexic On 5/8/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cf on linux may be cheaper then .net on windoze especially when you consider total cost of ownership what with Microsoft Licencing. Check it out- it ain't cheap. they lock you in with (virtually) free dev tools (anyone still got their freebie VS2005? mine's unloved...) and then sting you with the licence fees. IMHO, the only downside to linux-based is getting the expertise/Guru(s) to get the best out of it (the achillies heal on *nix TOC). A sysadmin friend of mine is doing amazing things at his work with FreeBSD, donated computers and a bunch of Win98 thin clients. Their sister business (MS everything) is one big blank check to write eh my 2c On 5/8/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to say it but my little team hear, may have to jump to .NET soon but I don't want to make that decesion. But if the clients want it we do it. Hi Jeremy very funny cfdump joke now if pricing is simply the only reason for changeing why not php or 1 of the many other free languages over .net? you already said they are using windoze, so no use me saying cf on linux may be cheaper then .net on windoze :S M@ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?
We need a language that is not only quick and easy to develop in, but also easy to debug and maintain long term. agreed! http://www.techfeed.net/blog/index.cfm/2006/3/28/PHP-Debugging-is-Better-Than-ColdFusion On 5/8/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sad, so sad. I have to say, that if CF 8 isn't oo and doesn't have break point debugging, I too will be moving all our development to .NET The cost is an issue to some, but for me it's the language and tools that hurts the most. PHP, JSP .NET are Free full OO, with break point debugging. CF is much more rapid for development which may justify the not free bit, but there is no excuse for the lack of OO and break point bits. Why even wait for CF8? Well there is a bit of me that hopes they make CF fully CFSCRIPT available, with more OO and break point debugging and I know they are thinking about these issues. But I'm mainly wanting to see which way they go. If CF8 comes out as lots more Flash Flex stuff, then I'm on the wrong ship. We need a language that is not only quick and easy to develop in, but also easy to debug and maintain long term. PS: Non CF people looking at code like cfloop from=1 just turn their nose up at the language. If CF supported CFSCRIPT syntax for everything, then this would not be an issue. Ie for (i=0; i10; i++) is familiar across languages. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 14:53 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone? I hate to say it but my little team hear, may have to jump to .NET soon but I don't want to make that decesion. But if the clients want it we do it. Hi Jeremy very funny cfdump joke now if pricing is simply the only reason for changeing why not php or 1 of the many other free languages over .net? you already said they are using windoze, so no use me saying cf on linux may be cheaper then .net on windoze :S M@ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?
I also think that break points are an extremely long shot. awww... Mark, that's mean! I can dream, can't I? at least your beanie isn't worried forbeing your next meal... BTW, they *have* been looking into debugging hooks, it's just not easy to implement at the moment. one of those decisions way back when (C++ to java re-write) that's hard to reverse. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?
all this cfscript talk... can I just have a step debugger...and breakpointsand watches pretty please? On 5/9/06, Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn good suggestion. I had previously suggested the idea of having another CFSETTING attribute (something like lang) to set it as a default for CFSCRIPT. There are dozens of ways they COULD implement it and not BREAK previous versions. Gary On 5/9/06, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/9/06, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - ECMA compliance will break existing cfscript MM/Adobe won't break backward compatibility in CF. It might be better get Adobe to update the cfscript tag to include lang=ecmascript that way it opens to door to lang=java or whatever your favourite language that has a java compiler for it. Thus by default lang=cfscript and then you're open to mix and match scripting languages to you hearts content. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF aptitude test
also, http://www.brainbench.com/xml/bb/business/hiring/hireemployees.xmlthese ppl have online exams to weed out the time wasters before they get to you although I don't know if their CF exam is any newer than 6.1more info:http://tech.badpen.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=25 On 5/15/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any of the CF certification sample questions (or study guides) any help to you?On 5/15/06, Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, On the subject of recruitement, which has been a hot topic lately, just wondering if anyone out there has a set of ColdFusion technical questions thatcould be asked of a potential employee in an interview? I'm thinking a 15 - 20 minute quiz that would test their knowledge of CF programming concepts as well as practical application. I have a pretty good idea of the things I'd like to know,but if someone has put one ofthese together before it would be great to have a look at to see if I've missed anything. thanks, bye! Ryan SabirTechnical Directorp: (02) 9274 8030f: (02) 9274 8099m: 0411 512 454w: www.newgency.com Newgency Pty LtdWeb | Multimedia | eMarketing224 Riley StSurry Hills NSW 2010Sydney, Australia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Anyone going to the Website CMS for GOVT Conf (Canberra)?
have you asked Peter Tilbrook? he might even put you up for the night... On 5/15/06, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone hitting this tommorow? http://www.marcusevans.com/events/CFEventinfo.asp?EventID=10852 -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF/Flex Wizard
And the rule with those systems is never change the code, always change the model. I'm having a hard time imagining that scenario on my last project - too much micro-logic, scope creep and management who were *sure* they knew everything about agile development but anything that removes the coding dross is real welcome. even as a starter At some point the code generation architecture may need to be opened up. like Cairngorm Vs ARP, perhaps(just a selection on a wiz item) On 5/16/06, Robin Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people will remember Dean from WebDU - nice guy and doing some very interesting stuff here. Some predictions: - This is going to bring a lot of the stuff that's been discussed in the CFObjective/Mach II/ModelGlue community to the broader CF audience. - This gives us a raw (in a positive sense) equivalent to the MS Access style RAD database developement on the Flash platform. - People are still going to have their own ideas about architecture on the server and client, and Dean is going to be besieged with enhancement requests. At some point the code generation architecture may need to be opened up. Robin On 16/05/2006, at 2:15 PM, Darren Tracey wrote: Of course, that should have been Dean Harmon, from Adobe who released the preview, as posted on Damon Cooper's blog. I don't know who Dean Cooper is or why I gave him all the credit! Darren Tracey Is it Friday yet? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfinclude and memory usage
My understanding is that an include is just the same as if the contents of the include had been typed at the location where the CFINCLUDE tag is. ! main file --- cfset x = 2 / assigned (before include):cfoutput#x#/cfoutputbr / cfinclude template=test_include.cfm / after include: cfoutput#x#/cfoutputbr / cfset x = x + 2 / final: cfoutput#x#/cfoutputbr / !--- the include --- cfset x = 10 / ! the result --- assigned (before include): 2 after include: 10 final: 12 so they are on the same thread. IF thats the case, any queries in an include would remain in memory until the end of the page request. sounds like Mike is correct my 2c. On 5/17/06, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mike, anyone else have any comment? On 5/13/06, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding is that an include is just the same as if the contents of the include had been typed at the location where the CFINCLUDE tag is. CFINCLUDEs are simply a way of organising the code,or allowing snippets of code to be reused in more than one page. IF thats the case, any queries in an include would remain in memory until the end of the page request. There are a lot of advantages of using CFINCLUDEs but that isnt one of them. Not by my understanding. So I agree with you Duncan. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 5/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just seen this on a forum and have a feeling its misguided: use cfinclude to seperate major query as CF will process each cfinclude in different thread. and will release the memmory when the cfinclude page finish. Can anyone shed any light on the correctness of this statement? I would say its false because its a linear process and the query has to stay iun memory until the request is finished. -- -- Duncan I Loxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Online CFUG: FarCry overview and 3.1 sneak peak
Hopefully the timing is good for Antipodeans. bloody oath! the other 4:00AM presso's are just a bit tough now-a-days... On 5/19/06, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, You might also be interested to know that I'm booked in to give a FarCry Overview presentation to Online CFUG: - 7pm US/Eastern time (Wednesday May 24th) - 9am Sydney (Thursday May 25th) Hopefully the timing is good for Antipodeans. Geoff Bowers of Daemon To Provide One Hour Seminar on FarCry CMS http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/5/12/Geoff-Bowers-of-Daemon-To-Provide-One-Hour-Seminar-on-FarCry-CMS Please RSVP if you are turning up.. would be good to get an idea of numbers. http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/events/4933883/ -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] looking for CF event management software
Hi All project comming up think registration system for such events as WebDU where people can sign up to multiple sessions and have attendees lists and counts, etc. the core of such will be fine as a starter but it has to have the source available because it'll be extended over time with specialist reports and have to integrate with other systems. If I can't find something in CF then the pecking order is Java/JSP and then PHP (after that I'm really not interested...) I've googled away but not found anything in CF (yet). any suggestions? thanx barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] OT: looking for a copy of infomodeller
Hi All many ancient histories ago, I used to use a data modelling tool called infomodeller (from the theories of Terry Halpin and co). the tool was bought by Asymetrix then Microsoft, incorperated into Visio and then dropped. but it was not dead yeta free to download copy of the origional tool was released, which I did at the time...and can't find now in my archives nor on the internet anymore. asymetrix is a lost cause, MS always is. has anyone got a copy that they kept? it had some neat ideas that others don't *quite* do...hence me looking thanx barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: looking for a copy of infomodeller
thanx Chris, that's the beast... and here I was thinking you couldn't get blood out of a (Microsoft) stone cheers barry.b On 6/6/06, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?ReleaseID=27489 On 6/6/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All many ancient histories ago, I used to use a data modelling tool called infomodeller (from the theories of Terry Halpin and co). the tool was bought by Asymetrix then Microsoft, incorperated into Visio and then dropped. but it was not dead yeta free to download copy of the origional tool was released, which I did at the time...and can't find now in my archives nor on the internet anymore. asymetrix is a lost cause, MS always is. has anyone got a copy that they kept? it had some neat ideas that others don't *quite* do...hence me looking thanx barry.b -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Virus protection software
have ppl seen what Microsoft are up to? http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,19345228%5E15865%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html On 6/8/06, Joel Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering (this may sound a little dumb to some of you), how can I find out more information about Symantec's architecturally poor software architecture? How do you gauge it against other antivirus apps in this way? It's always been very reliable and has picked up viruses pretty well up til now.. Joel -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kym Kovan Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 10:19 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Virus protection software Hi Ryan, you wrote: Just a quick poll to find out which Virus / Spyware protection software people are using these days (no Linux is not an answer :). I turn to you CFAUSSIES because you probably have a similar work environment to me, and so understand the needs of a web agency. We have been using CA VET until now, but that product is being phased out. I have had Symantec AV Corporate Edition recommended to me, but our experience in the past with Symantec products is that they can be intrusive for a developer. Also Symantec's stuff is poor architecturally, it is not as effective as some of the other products out there. I gave McAfee Managed VirusScan a go, but it seemed to have a conflict with our desktop contact manager, which slowed to a crawl. The only useful thing we found with McAffee was being able to scan machines across the network when they were idle as the load was intrusive otherwise. Any ideas? yes, TrendMicro. Excellent range of products from personal PC protection to Enterprise-wide networked servers... Mind you we are biased as we are TrendMicro consulting partners but that is for a reason, we checked all of the major firms and they were closest to what we felt were our needs as a development shop and a Hosting Provider. HTH, Kym K - where did my signature line go? - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: in praise of ColdFusion (and an OT Java question)
thankyou for your response, Charlie.
sadly, the JSTL seems to satisfy only one criteria. easy iteration to
access the data.
From my understanding and research, the JSTL query object can *only*
be populated by throwing it against a database, not dynamically filled
like an arrayList, linkList or a CF query using QueryAddRow() /
QuerySetCell() / QueryAddColumn().
then there's the ability to filter and return rows based on simple SQL
syntax, which ADO.NET just manages to do** but CF's QueryOfQueries
does in style.
unless I can find otherwise, the humble CFQUERY seems to be unique in
the way it looks like a collection/structure/datatype but has it's own
properties and methods to work with the data it holds. Thanks to a
simple API, it's much more than just the hashMap that's used under the
covers.
as a side note re JSTL connecting to a database and returning results:
maybe it's just me but that idea (tight coupling between model and
view) just seems to be so 1998
thanx anyhoo, Charlie.
**internal storage of ADO.NET's datasets and datatables is (IIRC) XML
and all the methods do is query (XPath?) the xml or append nodes, etc.
While this is a possible solution, it's the sort of thing that you'd
wish someone else had written!
(PS: Dale: Amen to that - but I am only a small voice in the crowd)
On 6/15/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Barry, if I'm understanding your question correctly, have you looked at the
JSTL (JSP Standard Tag Library)? It makes JSP look a lot more like CFML,
particularly a query:
sql:query var=deejays
SELECT * FROM mytable
/sql:query
%-- Get the column names for the header of the table --%
c:forEach var=columnName items=${deejays.columnNames}
thc:out value=${columnName}//th
/c:forEach
%-- Get the value of each column while iterating over rows --%
c:forEach var=row items=${deejays.rows}
tr
c:forEach var=column items=${row}
tdc:out value=${column.value}//td
/c:forEach
/tr
/c:forEach
The JSTL has been included in JSP 2.0, which has been out for a couple years
now (and I think it grew out of work that the Jrun team did, being familiar
as they were with CFML). It's now available on all the J2EE and Servlet
Engine implementations
For more, see:
http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/16973/1763/page/3
http://www.oracle.com/technology/sample_code/tech/java/codesnippet/jsps/jstl
sql.html
And many other resources.
/charlie
-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Barry Beattie
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:41 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] in praise of ColdFusion (and an OT Java question)
snip
anyhoo, I'm looking for a java replacement of the humble CFQUERY - but not
the database connectivity side of it.
perhaps a class than can
- be an object masquarading as a 2D data structure that can be dynamically
resized (ie: no db required) and has a simple API to do so (as easy as
QueryAddRow, QuerySetCell, QueryAddColumn)
- be accessed/iterated over with obj[keyname][row] or obj[i][j]
- have simple SQL thrown against it.
Microsoft's ADO.NET can (mostly) do this (albeit with 10 times more code
than CF) http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/system.data.datatable.aspx
but is there a java version of the same? Surely someone has already done
this (apart from Alaire/Macromedia/Adobe)
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[cfaussie] Re: ZeroOne and Adobe Australia/Pacific: Developer Community talks via Breeze
woo hoo! better than waiting up until 3:00 AM for US presso's... On 6/16/06, Kai Koenig ( ZeroOne ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, just slightly OT: ZeroOne in Wellington, NZ is hosting a series of community talks via Breeze for developers, interested users with technological knowledge or just anybody interested in Adobe technology. We're doing this jointly with Adobe Australia/Pacific, they've provided us with the necessary Breeze 5 environment and their event management and registration system. The talks will be provided by various members of the ZeroOne staff (including myself ;-)) and will cover a bunch of interstering topics from CF architectures to Flex 2.0, Flash Video or transitions in Flex 2 and Flash. We offer some interesting stuff on Java and CF as well. The talks will be held fortnightly at noon Wednesdays, New Zealand time. This will allow Australians to tune in early in the mornings and it will allow the US West Coast folks to follow the talks late afternoon as well. First session will be June, 28th 2006. A schedule of all the talks and the registration site are available here: http://events.adobe.co.uk/events/cgi/event.cgi?country=paeventid=3373 Cheers Kai __ Kai Koenig Digital solutions architect Adobe Certified Master Instructor (CF, Flex) Adobe Certified Professional (CF, Flash) ZeroOne (NZ) Limited Level 4, United Building, 107 Customhouse Quay P.O Box 9918, Marion Square Wellington, New Zealand Office: +64 4 471 4448 Mobile: +64 27 567 1007 Fax:+64 4 499 0019 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:www.zeroone.co.nz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: what Eclipse DB plugin do you use (for SQLServer)?
won't touch 3.2 until the next vers of cfeclipse is happy with it. PS: thanx for the db editor tips, going by the website SQLServer for Quantum wasn't mentioned. On 6/19/06, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using the SQL Editor that ships with the Flex 2 beta 3 Coldfusion plugin packages. Although it kinda sucks. Another quick question, since we are on the topic, how many people are using Eclipse 3.2? Cheers Gareth. Tom MacKean wrote: I use Quantum to talk to Navision (which runs like SQL Server) No problems. SQL Explorer is also good but I haven't got it working with Navision yet, only MySQL. That's probably my problem, not the software though. :) Tom On 6/19/06, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QuantumDB does work with SQLServer. Let me know if you want to know more? Cheers Gareth. Barry Beattie wrote: the only one I've had experiance with is the QuantumDB plug-in that doesn't support SQLServer and Universal dbViewer Eclipse plugin (which does) says on it's site: No new versions will be released for the moment. Not tested with eclipse versions higher than 3.1.1 Eclipse 3.2 is just around the corner, it seems. so is there any other DB plug-ins worthy of attention (for SQLServer), esp if you're used to Enterprise Manager + QA - or - Visual Studio.NET 2005? thanx barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Tim Buntel back with Adobe!
why does the news of Tim Buntel returning to the ColdFusion Team at Adobe degenerate into yet another testosterone-driven pissing context on who'se used ColdFusion the longest? who cares? isn't the hear and now more important? while you guys were busy with dbml/cfml, et all, I was VB-scripting away with ASP (classic)... and look at how relevant that is now-a-days... simple message: Tim Buntel + CF @ Adobe = A Friendly Face and strong CF community advocate...again. sheesh! On 7/3/06, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was sitting inside a cave one night, when it occured to me that maybe there is more to HTML then meets the eye. I then proceeded to Yahoo! (all the kids were using it then) and see if i could unearth something more.. something.. DYNAMIC!. It didn't take me long before I settled on two languages. ASP which is all the hype, the next VB for microsoft apparently. Coldfusion, was the other, little obscure but gaining momentum fast. So I used it and from there I was able to bring live footage online, of how my other cave-folk were able to conjure live flickering spirit walkers before our eyes, thus bringing forth a great glow and warmth - which would later be called fire to the kids of today. Good times. On 7/3/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't ASP come out in December 1996?? On 7/2/06, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took it up as the webmaster for Dynamite Internet (then Canberra's largest ISP) when the ASP powered site broke for no reason. That was when I heard about Cold Fusion 1.0. Haven't looked back since! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: - .NET sucking the life out of me
Jer, I feel your pain. the pointy-hairs here are seriously thinking Java/JSP replacement**. thankfully the (one and only) ASP.NET app I was called in to work on will be the last (I like C# but I won't miss ASP.NET pages). and I just replied to a fellow TAFE teacher hitting hard times getting CF into the classroom, hoping to give him some of my learning curve to try and give him a fighting chance, spread the word and increase the numbers. **see this flat spot on my forehead? that's from the third desk I've dented this month... On 7/4/06, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ahhahahaha Yes good idea...they won't even know the difference. As for blue dragonI've had to many issues with it. Perhaps the new version will be a little better. I spent 6 years learning CF now I have to go relearn all again...damnit I wish we had the matrix plugin thingo...would make life so much easier learn it all in 2 mins. My luck I would have a blue screen of death and end up in a coma. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: - .NET sucking the life out of me
if it promises smoother and more standardised web service development. Joel (and apologies to Jeremy for drifting further OT)... I realise you're talking about server issues with erbservices (not consuming them) but MS isn't without their webservice grief. it comes down to MS thinking they know best when it comes to standards. (don't you just love standards? there's so many to choose from!) here's just one example from the Flexcoders list: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders@yahoogroups.com/msg30801.html but I'm sure others can chime in with having been caught out with nuiances using .NET based webservices... On 7/6/06, Joel Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all the issues I have had getting just one web service going on the new server I would gladly move over to .Net in a flash if it promises smoother and more standardised web service development. Adobe can shove their open source AXIS where the sun dont shine as far as I care Joel -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shane Farmer Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2006 8:40 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: - .NET sucking the life out of me You are absolutely right, Charlie. It would have been early last year they started thinking about the move. BD.net would have only made the change less rushed as all code would eventually have been asp.net. As far as I know, this never eventuated and the company is still running CFMX. Shane On 7/5/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shane, that must have been over a year ago that you found BD.NET to be in beta. It has long been in production use by many companies now, not the least of which is Myspace, which many know was a CF5 site that was gasping until they decided to move to .NET and found BD.NET a great way to make the move while preserving their CFML investment--all with getting a bug bounce in performance. There are some who accuse it of being slower, but I know from the folks at Myspace (who watch their servers very closely and professionally) that there has indeed been considerable improvement. So much so, in fact, that MS has made great hay of saying that it's running on .NET--without mentioning that it's CFML on .NET by way of BlueDragon. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Reminder: 01/Adobe Breeze community talks: Flex 2, ColdFusion and Cairngorm: Wednesday July 12
umm, Kai, that's 10:00 *AM* (not PM), yes? 12:00:00 Noon Wednesday July 12, 2006 in NZ converts to 10:00:00 a.m. Wednesday July 12, 2006 in Australia/Brisbane http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc handy think to keep in mind: Eastern Aust time is 2 (or 3 with DST) earlier than NZ time or NZ is 2 hours ahead of AU...and 10 years behind... On 7/11/06, Kai Koenig ( ZeroOne ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, this time the reminder a day before the session... :) Start is Wednesday, July 12 at 12 pm NZ time, which should be 10 pm Sydney time! Registration is still possible on: http://events.adobe.co.uk/events/cgi/event.cgi?country=paeventid=3373 Topic: Flex 2 and ColdFusion Flex 2.0 and Cold Fusion do well together. This talk provides information on how to set up the connections between both technologies and how to get your data from the client application to the server and vice versa. We will show some slides, but also a lot of Flex and CF code to demonstrate how to use both products together in a very efficient way to create maintainable and well structured code. There will be some information on Cairngorm 2 and how to use it with CF, too! It's def. worth tuning in! Cheers Kai __ Kai Koenig Digital solutions architect Adobe Certified Master Instructor (CF, Flex) Adobe Certified Professional (CF, Flash) ZeroOne (NZ) Limited Level 4, United Building, 107 Customhouse Quay P.O Box 9918, Marion Square Wellington, New Zealand Office: +64 4 471 4448 Mobile: +64 27 567 1007 Fax:+64 4 499 0019 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:www.zeroone.co.nz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Reminder: 01/Adobe Breeze community talks: Flex 2, ColdFusion and Cairngorm: Wednesday July 12
Jason, the link email came yesterday (just saw your post) http://zeroone.partner.breezecentral.com/communitytalks/ On 7/12/06, Jason Bayly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone received the email with the link to the preso in it? Still noting here, and I registered yesterday.. Is there a way to get to the presentation without receiving an email? Or is it still on??? jason --- Jason Bayly Newgency Pty Ltd http://www.newgency.com/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kai Koenig \( ZeroOne \) Sent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 10:11 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Reminder: 01/Adobe Breeze community talks: Flex 2, ColdFusion and Cairngorm: Wednesday July 12 Oups, yes. It is 10 AM Sorry for any confusion :) Kai -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:19 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Reminder: 01/Adobe Breeze community talks: Flex 2, ColdFusion and Cairngorm: Wednesday July 12 umm, Kai, that's 10:00 *AM* (not PM), yes? 12:00:00 Noon Wednesday July 12, 2006 in NZ converts to 10:00:00 a.m. Wednesday July 12, 2006 in Australia/Brisbane http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc handy think to keep in mind: Eastern Aust time is 2 (or 3 with DST) earlier than NZ time or NZ is 2 hours ahead of AU...and 10 years behind... On 7/11/06, Kai Koenig ( ZeroOne ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, this time the reminder a day before the session... :) Start is Wednesday, July 12 at 12 pm NZ time, which should be 10 pm Sydney time! Registration is still possible on: http://events.adobe.co.uk/events/cgi/event.cgi?country=paeventid=3373 Topic: Flex 2 and ColdFusion Flex 2.0 and Cold Fusion do well together. This talk provides information on how to set up the connections between both technologies and how to get your data from the client application to the server and vice versa. We will show some slides, but also a lot of Flex and CF code to demonstrate how to use both products together in a very efficient way to create maintainable and well structured code. There will be some information on Cairngorm 2 and how to use it with CF, too! It's def. worth tuning in! Cheers Kai __ Kai Koenig Digital solutions architect Adobe Certified Master Instructor (CF, Flex) Adobe Certified Professional (CF, Flash) ZeroOne (NZ) Limited Level 4, United Building, 107 Customhouse Quay P.O Box 9918, Marion Square Wellington, New Zealand Office: +64 4 471 4448 Mobile: +64 27 567 1007 Fax:+64 4 499 0019 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:www.zeroone.co.nz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Reminder: 01/Adobe Breeze community talks: Flex 2, ColdFusion and Cairngorm: Wednesday July 12
Kai did say he was starting the recording ...now He's a nice guy and very helpful. if you get stuck with links to it, try emailing him directly asking for the recording download details. On 7/12/06, Jason Bayly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that barry, weird none of us here received the email with the link, even tho we successfully registered yesterday. Go figure. Do u know if the presentations are saved for viewing later? Kinda miffed now this one is half over. Cheers Jason --- Jason Bayly Newgency Pty Ltd http://www.newgency.com/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2006 10:24 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Reminder: 01/Adobe Breeze community talks: Flex 2, ColdFusion and Cairngorm: Wednesday July 12 Jason, the link email came yesterday (just saw your post) http://zeroone.partner.breezecentral.com/communitytalks/ On 7/12/06, Jason Bayly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone received the email with the link to the preso in it? Still noting here, and I registered yesterday.. Is there a way to get to the presentation without receiving an email? Or is it still on??? jason --- Jason Bayly Newgency Pty Ltd http://www.newgency.com/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kai Koenig \( ZeroOne \) Sent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 10:11 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Reminder: 01/Adobe Breeze community talks: Flex 2, ColdFusion and Cairngorm: Wednesday July 12 Oups, yes. It is 10 AM Sorry for any confusion :) Kai -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:19 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Reminder: 01/Adobe Breeze community talks: Flex 2, ColdFusion and Cairngorm: Wednesday July 12 umm, Kai, that's 10:00 *AM* (not PM), yes? 12:00:00 Noon Wednesday July 12, 2006 in NZ converts to 10:00:00 a.m. Wednesday July 12, 2006 in Australia/Brisbane http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc handy think to keep in mind: Eastern Aust time is 2 (or 3 with DST) earlier than NZ time or NZ is 2 hours ahead of AU...and 10 years behind... On 7/11/06, Kai Koenig ( ZeroOne ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, this time the reminder a day before the session... :) Start is Wednesday, July 12 at 12 pm NZ time, which should be 10 pm Sydney time! Registration is still possible on: http://events.adobe.co.uk/events/cgi/event.cgi?country=paeventid=3373 Topic: Flex 2 and ColdFusion Flex 2.0 and Cold Fusion do well together. This talk provides information on how to set up the connections between both technologies and how to get your data from the client application to the server and vice versa. We will show some slides, but also a lot of Flex and CF code to demonstrate how to use both products together in a very efficient way to create maintainable and well structured code. There will be some information on Cairngorm 2 and how to use it with CF, too! It's def. worth tuning in! Cheers Kai __ Kai Koenig Digital solutions architect Adobe Certified Master Instructor (CF, Flex) Adobe Certified Professional (CF, Flash) ZeroOne (NZ) Limited Level 4, United Building, 107 Customhouse Quay P.O Box 9918, Marion Square Wellington, New Zealand Office: +64 4 471 4448 Mobile: +64 27 567 1007 Fax:+64 4 499 0019 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:www.zeroone.co.nz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] changed behavour: CF 6.1 to 7.0 - missing CGI (custom) variables - AAARRRGGGHHH!
hi all the biggest stumbling block in upgrading to CF7 is that some custom CGI variables set by IIS with an ISAPI filter go missing in CF7...but are fine in CF6.1 (and ASP.NET) the facts: 1) I'm testing away on 2 machines. both boxes have IIS (and exactly the same ISAPI filter), one has CF6.1 and the other CF7.02. Exactly the same (simple) test code for both versions 2) I'm comparing the variables between CF and ASP.NET. These specific CGI vars are also listed in ASP.NET's server variables collection and can also be accessed in ASP.NET's headers collection. for ColdFusion they are CGI variables. 3) ASP.NET/CF6.1 box shows ISAPI vars fine. Other box shows ISAPI vars for ASP.NET only (ie: they're missing with CF7) 4) it is the ISAPI filter that is setting the vars (a lookup to AD/security/permissions) managed by IIS. ColdFusion and ASP.NET just need the ability to read these variables. 5) while both machines are NOT identical, at least I'm comparing granny smith apples to royal gala apples. AND the fact that ASP.NET isn't having a problem in either. 6) it's like CF7.0 can't read these vars from the broswer, even if asked by specific (CGI) name. so... either there is a bug that hasn't been picked up before where CF7 is broken compared to CF6.1 or there is a problem with the ISAPI filter itself that CF6.1 tolerates but CF7 just ignores/no output. either way, if I can't fix this problem, we can't upgrade to CF7 any thoughts? anyone had this discrepency before (and fixed it)? any suggestions to see what could be wrong? thanx barry.b PS: is there any other way of reading more of the _raw_ data sent to the server from the browser apart from the usual CGI/server/request vars? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFUG Next week
Dale, funny you should mention that... you still awake wed eve? this is for thurs morn 8:30AM: === Your Organizer, Steven Erat, sent the following message to the members of The Online Coldfusion Meetup Group: Announcing a new event for The Online Coldfusion Meetup Group! What: Subversion - Version Control and Trac, by Peter Farrell When: Wednesday, July 12, 6:30 PM US/Eastern Where: RSVP for Breeze Meeting URL Event Description: Subversion - Version Control and Trac, by Peter Farrell. Learn why all developers in both solo or team environments should safeguard their source code with a version control systems. Find out what is version control, what you have for options, how it works and why you absolutely need to use it. Also, get info on Trac, an enhanced wiki and issue tracking system that integrates with Subversion. Get the safety of version control and project management all rolled up in one from two great Open Source projects. Peter is the creator of LylaCAPTCHA and a Mach ii contributor. Peter's blog is blog.maestropublishing.com. This even will be held online via Breeze Meeting at 6:30 PM US/Eastern Time. See this link for timezone conversions: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc Please RSVP. To join the meeting, at the start time go to the URL shown on the event detail page under MORE INFORMATION and log in using the Guest login field, the one that doesn't require a password, then enter your name when prompted. Learn more and RSVP here: http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/events/5014773/ On 7/12/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, I'm not sure if anyone would be interested, but I could do a talk on Subversion. Installing, configuring and using SVN with Coldfusion. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2006 10:12 AM To: CFAussie Mailing List Subject: [cfaussie] CFUG Next week Any suggestions for presentations or anyone offering to do one? Regards Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] MORE.... [changed behavour: CF 6.1 to 7.0 - missing CGI (custom) variables]
the thick plottens here: while CF7 is NOT getting the variables in CGI scope, it *is* able to read them with GetHttpRequestData().headers. cfoutput email = #GetHttpRequestData().headers.MYORG_CLIENT_E_MAIL# /cfoutput FURTHER: not only are these ISAPI filter vars be read by ASP.NET and CF6.1 but also by JSP (running off either of the CF servers). there really *does* seem to be a distinct change between CF6.1 and CF7 that has nothing to do with IIS, the ISAPI filter or JRun (since JSP on CF doesn't have a problem) - the problem seems to be the ColdFusion runtime in 7.0. NOTE: I'm gonna be howled down if I suggest site-wide code changes like this. while it looks trivial, it's a big change here. So much so it'd probably be the last nail in CF's coffin (which is the opposite of what I want to achieve) there are millions of lines of code built up over the years that would have to be checked (that's why I'm looking at CF7 now...it's taken that long to revisit it to sort this out) also, while this looks simple enough cfoutput FooBar = #GetHttpRequestData().headers.MYORG_FOO_BAR# /cfoutput if FOO_BAR doesn't exist (depending on which app and what context) it'll throw an error...something that checking CGI scope doesn't do (returns an empty string which is fine) I'd rather the problem was in the ISAPI filter, there's only 3 places to change that has anyone come across this (CGI/headers) issue before? or am I the only person in the whole world that this is happening to? thanx barry.b On 7/12/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could use the GetHttpRequestData() thanx Joel, I forgot that. I'll see if the vars are somewhere (perhaps not put in CGI scope with CF7) and just doing a cfdump will not necesarily show all the values available in it. very true, Darren. I'm specifically looking for those CGI variables, not only a dump. things like CGI.HTTP_MYORG_FULL_NAME CGI.HTTP_MYORG_EMAIL_ADDR etc. remember, I can see these vars on the 6.1 server just fine. Have you tried avoiding IIS altogether? Peter, not an option. the big player in this is the ISAPI filter that does the AD lookup, lets not complicate the issue too much, eh - stick with apples to compare with and not cumquats? and as I said, ASP.NET (to show the values are there and the ISAPI filter is doing it job) on both machines hasn't a problem (they're v1.1 and 2.0 - no difference) I haven't ruled out that there's some mischief with the ISAPI filter that CF7 is balking at and CF6.1 tollerates but accessing the variables in whatever platform is so straightforward I really doubt that that's it. thanx ppl. the mystery continues On 7/12/06, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly is missing from the CGI scope? Don't forget that the CGI scope is handled differently than any other scope and just doing a cfdump will not necesarily show all the values available in it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT: Frameworks - cfsick
Hi Jeremy as you know, the last place of employ, we put together the cfdodgy framework which was dead simple and the guys are still using it (I think) lately I've been getting some runs on the board with Reactor (download the files and checkout this easy to use tuitorial: http://livedocs.reactorframework.com/Reactor_Documentation.htm) it's not exactly ruby on rails but geez it saves some coding. I'm wanting to use it as a back door into Model-Glue:Unity. just a thought b On 7/13/06, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, I'm looking at frameworks in my spare timehahahaha...gezz I'm a nerd. Anyway, I have been looking at a few of them; including (wait for it) .NET well how it sorta does this. I have tried a few and they all roughly do the same thing. I looked at the following... 1. cfwheels 2. MACH-II 3. Fusebox 4. Spring 5. CFDology (this one is mine hehehe) etc. I got most of them working bar cfwheels...that just pissed me off. What are other people out their using. And has it been successful? Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: MORE.... [changed behavour: CF 6.1 to 7.0 - missing CGI (custom) variables]
I'm assuming CGI isn't read only. yep, Blair, that's what I'm trying to find out now it *is* actually (read-only) but I'm hoping that that setting the appropriate CFHEADER vars somewhere will help. it just really sh!+s me that this has come up at all. Unless I can find out further why, it really looks like CF7 dropped the ball on this one. is it beer'o'clock yet? I've got some crying into it to do... On 7/13/06, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be practical to add code to application.cfm/cfc that retrieves those variables and puts them in cgi manually? You could have all the error checking you want then. I'm assuming CGI isn't read only. Blair On 7/13/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've not seen a better case scenario for CGIScopeFacade in my life.. If you do go down the path of having to write a #GetHttpRequestData().headers.MYORG_FOO_BAR#, at least you'll be able to wrap it, and then return an empty sting if it doesn't exist. Sorry I can't be more helpful :( Mark On 7/13/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the thick plottens here: while CF7 is NOT getting the variables in CGI scope, it *is* able to read them with GetHttpRequestData().headers. cfoutput email = #GetHttpRequestData().headers.MYORG_CLIENT_E_MAIL# /cfoutput FURTHER: not only are these ISAPI filter vars be read by ASP.NET and CF6.1 but also by JSP (running off either of the CF servers). there really *does* seem to be a distinct change between CF6.1 and CF7 that has nothing to do with IIS, the ISAPI filter or JRun (since JSP on CF doesn't have a problem) - the problem seems to be the ColdFusion runtime in 7.0. NOTE: I'm gonna be howled down if I suggest site-wide code changes like this. while it looks trivial, it's a big change here. So much so it'd probably be the last nail in CF's coffin (which is the opposite of what I want to achieve) there are millions of lines of code built up over the years that would have to be checked (that's why I'm looking at CF7 now...it's taken that long to revisit it to sort this out) also, while this looks simple enough cfoutput FooBar = #GetHttpRequestData().headers.MYORG_FOO_BAR# /cfoutput if FOO_BAR doesn't exist (depending on which app and what context) it'll throw an error...something that checking CGI scope doesn't do (returns an empty string which is fine) I'd rather the problem was in the ISAPI filter, there's only 3 places to change that has anyone come across this (CGI/headers) issue before? or am I the only person in the whole world that this is happening to? thanx barry.b On 7/12/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could use the GetHttpRequestData() thanx Joel, I forgot that. I'll see if the vars are somewhere (perhaps not put in CGI scope with CF7) and just doing a cfdump will not necesarily show all the values available in it. very true, Darren. I'm specifically looking for those CGI variables, not only a dump. things like CGI.HTTP_MYORG_FULL_NAME CGI.HTTP_MYORG_EMAIL_ADDR etc. remember, I can see these vars on the 6.1 server just fine. Have you tried avoiding IIS altogether? Peter, not an option. the big player in this is the ISAPI filter that does the AD lookup, lets not complicate the issue too much, eh - stick with apples to compare with and not cumquats? and as I said, ASP.NET (to show the values are there and the ISAPI filter is doing it job) on both machines hasn't a problem (they're v1.1 and 2.0 - no difference) I haven't ruled out that there's some mischief with the ISAPI filter that CF7 is balking at and CF6.1 tollerates but accessing the variables in whatever platform is so straightforward I really doubt that that's it. thanx ppl. the mystery continues On 7/12/06, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly is missing from the CGI scope? Don't forget that the CGI scope is handled differently than any other scope and just doing a cfdump will not necesarily show all the values available in it. -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com ICQ: 3094740 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Calling Page
Dale, are you really sure you want to tie your CFC up with whatever view runs the request? sure I don't know the full details but are you *really, really, REALY* sure that's what you want inside your CFC? forgive me for asking, I heard an alarm ringing... (the bells! the bells!) On 7/14/06, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GetCurrentTemplatePath() As for the component that calls a given function, possibly caller scope is available (like in tags/modules) but you may have to pass it into the function as an argument. Blair On 7/14/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure that's what I want. From a cfc I need to be able to work out. What page called me Or What component called me Regards Dale Fraser -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cfgroupie Sent: Friday, 14 July 2006 11:10 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Calling Page I can by puttin it in the url. Like a refer. then I program it so it says I'm coming from this component. Is that what you mean? Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT: CF Intranet System
using Farcry CMS. It's more than a CMS tho, but as far as content going up, approving it's kosher and having secured sections, it'll do it all. got MSWord forms? add a section for proforma for ppl to download, fill out and have languishing in various in-trays. alternatively, expand it with online registration. (think of FarCry as an application framework that at it's basic is a CMS) On 7/24/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to setup an intranet here, and would prefer a CF one, anyone got any recommendations. Regards Dale Fraser --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF to ASP programmer wanted
christophe that's not quite true both ASP and ASP.NET use SQL as a string in a command (you can throw the SQL string straight at a connection object without a command object being used). there's issues about single quotes and concatenation as well as parameters. cfqueryparam is heaven on a stick... But I suspect what Cookie is after is more the experiance in using ADO/ADO/NET eg: connection objects command recordset (ADO/ASP) dataset(ADO.NET/ASP.NET) parameter Cookie, it might be worth clarifying if this is for ASP (vb script) or ASP.NET (C# or VB.NET) (sorry, the gig ain't for me at the moment) On 7/26/06, christophe albrech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the trickiest part about them is the sql queries I don't get that... sql shouldn't have to be modified when translating coldfusion to asp. Only the functions (cfquery = whatever in asp) that execute the queries should change?? tof On 7/26/06, cookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I urgently need a programmer who can translate ColdFusion to ASP for a couple of days work.I have some relatively short and simple CF pages that need translation, the trickiest part about them is the sql queries. If anyone can assist either email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call my mobile on 0419316815. I can then send interested parties the source code to enable you to give me a quote for the job. Thanks Graham Cook --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF to ASP programmer wanted
sigh! pleze don't start another pissing contest on who's used what language the longest. it's such a bore! I suggest if yiu're *really* interested go look it up on wikipedia. I think CF is a touch older than asp but since there was a really good interview with Jeremy Allaire covering this, I invite ppl to track it down and have a read ... it's not helping Graham find someone On 7/26/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 11 years ago I chose CFML over ASP for the most productive language. does that mean ASP is older then CFML ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: variables.instance
Can the CFC access all variables. Scope, ie ones from other pages / cfc's?
unless it's been fixed reciently, it can access FORM and URL (and
probably cookie) scopes too.
I found out by accident that, if you've got an unscoped variable that
doesn;t exist in variables or this scope, it'll walk down the
scope tree looking for it...all the way to FORM and URL...
On 7/28/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/28/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark,
But I thought that the variables scope was only accessible to the CFC that
you're using it in. Why then would you need to worry?
This is true, but maybe I didn't explain myself properly.
If I wanted to make a copy of the values in a CFC (assuming all it has
is basic types of values in the instance struct) having the instance
struct allows me to do this:
(in cfscript'ish for ease)
function getMemento() : Struct
{
return duplicate(variables.instance);
}
And it is very easy.
There is no way I could go duplicate(variables), as the variables
scope has reference to LOTS of things - including UDFS that are set to
that CFC, the 'this' scope, and various other pieces.
It's more of a personal preference thing. I like it because it keeps
things separate, and I don't have to worry about overlap.
Can the CFC access all variables. Scope, ie ones from other pages / cfc's?
It can access shared scopes (application, session etc), although
getting to those from a CFC is another design discussion.
That make a bit more sense?
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[cfaussie] Re: Rumour Mill
wow... ColdFusionShop or Premier CF or CFGoLive... On 8/2/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a hot rumour for you all. Adobe will release an all new all dancing Coldfusion IDE with lots of goodies, most noticeably an integrated debugger. I have no idea of timing, but expect it to be around CF8 which is 2007 sometime. If I am correct, it will be neither Dreamweaver nor Eclipse but a CF specific IDE built by Adobe. For all of you who can't wait, the FusionDebugger is about to be released. http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/ Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Rumour Mill
nah, I get it the company makes it's $$$ on making it's IDE's. Look at 'em all. For print, web, video, animation why *should* it get on board with the O/S market? I'm sure Adobe would love to have a platform for all their designer/editing IDE's as plug-in's but, as a commercial organisation, it _wouldn't_ be open source _nor_ free... On 8/2/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure, surprised me also. Damon Cooper (Adobe) also hints' at this, it's more obvious once you've heard the rumour. http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=CA4B686A-4E22-1671-58F4E17F09832C78 I sincerely hope we can both pleasantly shock and awe you with what we have on store. I will say this: the solution we come up with may not be what you're expecting, but it may be what just what you've wished for :) Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:46 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Rumour Mill Why would they not use Eclipse? it seems silly seeing that Flex 2 Builder is based on it. Cheers Gareth. Dale Fraser wrote: I have a hot rumour for you all. Adobe will release an all new all dancing Coldfusion IDE with lots of goodies, most noticeably an integrated debugger. I have no idea of timing, but expect it to be around CF8 which is 2007 sometime. If I am correct, it will be neither Dreamweaver nor Eclipse but a CF specific IDE built by Adobe. For all of you who can't wait, the FusionDebugger is about to be released. http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/ Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...
ignore him, the guy's obviously trolling. a couple of glib statements to see who'll bite does not an informed discourse make... I'm actually feeling sorry for the .NET everything ppl**. eg: FlexDataServices is a J2EE app and will prob NEVER be ported over to the .NET runtime ** not really. Hah! On 8/8/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just couple other reasons to move out from CF to ASP.NET (as few clients told): Your saying we should move from cf to asp.net ? CF hosting is expensive If cf hosting is to expensive for an employer what makes you think they are going to be able to afford your wage? if a few hundred $'s every year is to much, good luck getting a wage increase Ever!! And good luck getting them to spend a grand on Microsoft licensing server licenses for the market cf is aimed at ain't all that bad. smart employers will choose another language cos its right tool for the right job. Smart companies selling sites etc will use CF as a selling point. the other day our biggest client ($120billionUS market cap) was in and we made some changes in front of there eyes and they said w0w that was so fast, it would have took our IT department 5 weeks, this coldfusion really is quick Now I'd assume someone had told them that cf is quick and hence used cf as a selling point. Easy to find employees with Java/.NET experience It is ?, so there is all these highly skilled devs sitting there with no jobs but are still highly current and highly skilled? same as any market if they want good employees they will have to compete against the competition, there will be a lot of java/.net employees to compete with. at present there is a global skills shortage in pretty much every language. Trends to keep everything around MS WHoopdy d00, there is companies that want to keep everything java, or everything cf etc. M@ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Another QLD CFUG date change, sorry!
my guess is that Darren's having trouble finding a big enough venue to fit everyone in. they've torn down Festival Hall so that really only leaves Suncorp stadium... On 8/8/06, Chad Renando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep going into September and I might be able to attend... Chad On 8/8/06, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, due to reasons beyond my control, tonight's QLD CFUG meeting will have to be postponed again. It will now be held on Tuesday the 15th of August. I apologise for any inconvenience this may cause anybody. Rest assured that the fantastic software and book door prizes will still be available on the new night. Regards Darren Tracey CFUG QLD Manager Australia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...
's funny y' know I would have thought that RubyOnRails would have been the target of get out of CF and head to ... not the big lumbering mass that is ASP.NET (or Java/JSP for that matter) On 8/8/06, Chad Renando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I will say that you guys are not alone. The industry-spanning skills shortage issue is the current hot topic in my HR course for my MBA ticket. This could easily branch out into discussions on the strategic decision-making process and influcence of HR and needs requirements... Chad who doesn't really feel like branching just now On 8/8/06, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, very interesting thread. The trends are not always good, and sometimes the people at the top don't make the right decisions either. We are both a java and CF house, we have been trying to recruit Java developers and a few C# gurus for 3 months and not too many have been able to do the job to the specifications or requirements that are required. But I will also have to say CF is in this same position, the good developers in any language are not out of work very long the rest might get a lucky break or two, but the market is as stated a skill shortage in all languages. It even got to the stage that my boss and agency where offering commission to anyone who knew any top gun java and c# developers. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...
y'know I worked there for nearly two years and still don't know why Alphabus chose CF. by rights they wouldn't have known what it meant, esp since it was CF5 at the time. their expertise was in a propriatary 4GL language for desktop-based client/server apps. I wonder what part of CF sold them? why not PHP? ASP (classic)? was it the RAD? was it the Macromedia parentage and aligning with their Vision? Darren, Gareth, Ben, Barnsey... any of you guys know? On 8/9/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a GREAT takeaway--and indeed mantra--for us, Robin: Don't try to sell the CF Platform to business. Sell CF Solutions to business. /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Hilliard Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:20 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF vs ... On 08/08/2006, at 10:30 PM, Scott Barnes wrote: Robin, You assume there is rational conversations taking place at the management level along with Cost benefit realisation? Who here actively has had conversations about the two with management? Well, that was actually my job for a while, and it seemed to work (Telstra for example). Most of the stuff at that level is still FUD, and plenty of Microsoft partners (e.g. Accenture in Canberra) have a full time occupation sowing it - they want to sell their services just as much as we do, and they're very good at it. But once you cut through the FUD people are pretty receptive to the CF RAD message. Actually I'm really just banging the same old drum about selling business solutions instead of technologies. If what you sell is a person who can code in CF, you're not really talking to management at a level that they can connect with - much as I wouldn't connect with a plumber who sold themselves as a specialist fusion welder (Hmm, the other plumber told me that .TIG is a better welding method, and he was going to do my office for me as well in a bundle) rather than someone who could stop my pipes leaking in 20 minutes for a hundred bucks. Don't try to sell the CF Platform to business. Sell CF Solutions to business. Robin __ Robin Hilliard Director - RocketBoots Pty Ltd Consulting . Software Licensing . Recruitment . Training http://www.rocketboots.com.au For schedule/availability call Pamela Higgins: w+61 7 5451 0362 m+61 419 677 151 f+61 3 9923 6261 e[EMAIL PROTECTED] or Direct: m+61 418 414 341 e[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Worldwide Adobe Licensing - Volume discounts now start at one point *** --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT: Document Management System
don't forget you can use the humble CVS for versioning documents.
you just can't do a merge on the binary file format.
just a thought.
On 8/11/06, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.fusiondox.com/
I meet the guy who wrote it @ CFUnited.
It's pitched at enterprise, and I think the price tag reflects that
from memory...
Dale Fraser wrote:
Hmm,
I want document management, not content management.
Ie: Managing versions of Word Documents etc.
Regards
Dale Fraser
http://dale.fraser.id.au
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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Peter Tilbrook
Sent: Friday, 11 August 2006 10:53 AM
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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: SOT: Document Management System
FarCry CMS - it Open Source - check out http://www.farcrycms.org/
On 11/08/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Our company needs a Document Control / Management System.
I don't want to build one, but just buy one. Anyone recommend something?
Preferably Coldfusion / MS SQL.
Regards
Dale Fraser
http://dale.fraser.id.au
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[cfaussie] anyone else with grief: MS06-040 patch and CF (JRun)?
this (critical) MS patch killed our servers dead last week. After applying the MS06-040 patch rebooting, the service called ColdFusion Application Server service cannot be restarted. At this point, if the service stops for any reason, it cannot be restarted. Doing so will generate an error: Error occurred during initialization of VM. Could not reserve enough space for object heap We've repatched and tried again (disabling some stuff has helped) but I just want to check if anyone else has come across this? thanx barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: anyone else with grief: MS06-040 patch and CF (JRun)?
what we've done is disabled the batch script that checks the machine for life every period or so (and then restarts it if dead). just wanted to test the water on who else had woes... thanx On 8/14/06, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny I saw the same thing on my local machine yesterday after patching it. Rebooted, hit start on the service and got that (or a similar) message - however when I check a few minutes later the service was running so I thought nothing of it. Just checking again now - restarting on my local machine... got Error 1053: The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely fashion., when stopping the service, but it started without any problems. Mark On 8/14/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this (critical) MS patch killed our servers dead last week. After applying the MS06-040 patch rebooting, the service called ColdFusion Application Server service cannot be restarted. At this point, if the service stops for any reason, it cannot be restarted. Doing so will generate an error: Error occurred during initialization of VM. Could not reserve enough space for object heap We've repatched and tried again (disabling some stuff has helped) but I just want to check if anyone else has come across this? thanx barry.b -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...
and I've heard of a large organisation eschewing their long history (and RAD benefits) of ColdFusion in favour of Java + JSP (replacing a 800kg sports car with a 102 tonne steam-engine) Scott, it's like your favourite movie one-linerlife is like a box o' chocolates... On 8/17/06, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard Ernst Young are upgrading Notes... upgrading!!!... well i never... On 8/16/06, darryl lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dumping Notes is a good thing.. On 11/08/06, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey just to add more fuel to the fire. We just had a company meeting last night and they had a guest speaker there from Microsoft, talking about SOLUTIONS ironically. They are coming out with Studio 2005 with some added features which apparently haven't been released yet which from what I understand are using MS Project, MS Word and some new server which will track all your project changes and where it is at that point in the SDLC. And because my company are a Gold Partner with MS I saw my little CF heart broken when I heard my manager say to me I like that, lets look at it! *sigh* Oh and we are ditching Lotus Notes apparentlywhoo hoo!! Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF Administrator - Whitespace Management
You should have a look at fusion reactor. Steve, don't do that! there may be ppl in Brisbane not too keen on what you'll find... ... but then again, that Informix driver was always the weakist link --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: XML close tag
please forgive me for saying, but does it matter, esp if you're using the inbuilt functionality to access the data? we used to write XML as strings and then do a final xmlParse. it continously changed our close tagsbut it never worried it... On 8/21/06, Andrew Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible using CFMX7 xml functions to specify how you want an tag with a blank value to be closed? myTag/myTag verses myTag / - this is what I am getting --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: DHTML Data Grid
how about editable datagrids? for data entry (Excel-type functionality)? maybe with facilities of columns of listboxes for look-up data? On 8/21/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, We originally had that and found it to be buggy. It is also very slow to load compared to a DHTML one. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Monday, 21 August 2006 6:55 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: DHTML Data Grid Um FlashForm grid - they just need the Flash plugin. Near but maybe not close enough? From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Monday, 21 August 2006 4:50 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] DHTML Data Grid Anyone recommend a good DHTML datagrid. We are currently using www.ActiveWidgets.com but it's a bit pricy and thought we should look around before buying the latest version. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: cfug for flash people?
in fact, I think it's this comming wednesday. (Richard T-J...phone home paging, Richard T-J...) On 8/21/06, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm aware, QMUG hold regular monthly usergroup meetings. http://www.qmug.net Cheers Gareth. On 8/21/06, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks. I've had a look at the QMUG page, but it's rather sparse, and claims the next event is in July. I remember this being talked about during CFUG, but I wasn't really paying attention at the time, so I must ask: Are there any regular meetings of Flash people? Something along the same lines at CFUG, perhaps. Thanks. -- Haikal Saadh Applications Programmer ICT Resources, TALSS QUT Kelvin Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] someone was asking about Flash user groups? ( [QMUG] August 2006 Meeting)
for all you (Brisbane) ColdFusion programmers who's bosses have forced them over to the dark side ... (yes, I'm talking about you, Haikal...) -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Turner-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 22, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: [QMUG] August 2006 Meeting To: QMUG News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flash Turns Ten Years Old! Flash Turns 10! Flash turns ten years old this August, and we're going to give it a birthday party! We'll take a look at the Flash: it's past, present and future! And what would a birthday party be without presents?! We'll have some special gifts to give away in honour of Flash's birthday, so make sure to be there on Wednesday, 23rd August, at 6:30pm. Agenda: * A look back at 10 years of Flash * Where is Flash headed - a review of the Flash Platform * More items to be confirmed * Party treats and presents for all (including a copy of Studio 8!) Please RSVP by lunchtime on the 23rd so that we cater for enough people. If you are vegetarian or have special dietary issues, please let us know so that we order accordingly. Reminders: Bring along any news, questions or ideas. If you've struck a problem in one of the programs, chances are someone will be able to help. If you are looking for work, or looking for staff/contractors, it's also a good opportunity to network. This group is here for you, and requires your support to continue. Meeting information[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Hope to see you there, Meeting Details: When: 6:30 pm - 8:00pm, Wednesday, 23rd of August 2006 Where: QANTM Auditorium QANTM House Level 9, 138 Albert St Brisbane City (Opposite the Coffee Club) If the doors are locked, please call 0416 213 251 Cheers, Richard Turner-Jones - Manager Queensland Multimedia User Group -- (m) PO Box 3020 (e) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warner QLD Australia 4500 (w) http://www.qmug.net -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Web Service Stub Wierdness
ever since events were first introduced to CF, I always wanted an
onServerStart hook. Application starts are one thing but it could have
really been handy for our case can't the ColdFusion serverce fire
these when it springs into life?
just throwing this out therenothing more...
On 8/24/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lest anyone just drop that code into the application.cfm, do be careful as
Joel says at the end (and as later notes indicate how time-consuming this
can be). Note that he suggests it for reloading the apps on first launch.
While the new application.cfc has a method where you can put this code to
ensure it's only done once, if you do drop it into application.cfm, it's
critical that you add code to do it only once per application launch (test
for an app var, and if it doesn't exist, set it and THEN do this code.)
You do NOT want to mistakenly run this webservice refresh code on every page
request! :-)
/charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/
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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Joel Cass
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:39 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Web Service Stub Wierdness
You could try putting this in your application.cfc/cfm to reload the apps on
first launch:
!--- flush web services ---
cftry
cfscript
factory = CreateObject('JAVA', coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory);
RpcService = factory.XmlRpcService;
Mappings = RpcService.getMappings();
for (m in Mappings) {
RpcService.refreshWebService(Mappings[m]);
}
/cfscript
cfcatch!-- [error flushing web service cache] --/cfcatch
/cftry
!--- end flush web services ---
That fixes most niggling AXIS issues for me :) Though it does reload all
services on the server so be careful..
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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Scott Arbeitman
Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2006 2:50 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Web Service Stub Wierdness
I have some named web services in my ColdFusion administrator (CF 6.1).
I have templates which invoke the web services. These invocations have a low
timeout.
If I load a template which calls a web service after adding or refreshing a
web service in the administrator, it runs without problems.
When I restart ColdFusion, however, I can no longer invoke these web
services because of socket timeout errors. These are resolved after
refreshing the web services in the administrator.
Now I know ColdFusion is going to use Axis to generate stubs when
adding/refreshing web services. Therefore, these stubs must be deleted by CF
when restarting ColdFusion even though Save Class Files setting is enabled
(I'm assuming, then, that this setting only applies to compiled ColdFusion
pages, not Axis stubs).
Needless to say, the generate of stubs and their invocation exceeds 5 the
timeout threshhold.
Anyone know I can tell CF not to delete these stubs?
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[cfaussie] Re: Flex Group
main list? is there others? On 8/24/06, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flexcoders Mailing List is the main list FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Regards, Bjorn Schultheiss Senior Flash Developer QDC Technologies From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:58 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Flex Group I think someone asked this recently. But is there a good Flex 2 mailing list. Preferably one that is CF centric. The ones I saw on googlegroups seem dormant. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: anyone else with grief: MS06-040 patch and CF (JRun)?
from what I can work out (and I'm not the sysadmin, just a concerned coder working with those servers), the patch has problems when JRUN requests large chunks of contiguous memory here's some info from our sysadmins I'm surprised this hasn't had a big red flag waiving in the CF world This is a followup to my earlier episode of issues with restarting Java services after patching server with the mandatory MS06-040 patch. The saga continues... Anyway, there are a number of people running JVM with the same awful experience (see http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=759413) MS realised this but made no mention in the MS06-040 patch page that there is a hotfix available, which is this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924054 In summary, what it says is: Programs that request lots of contiguous memory, such as one gigabyte or more, may fail with an unexpected error after you install security update 921883 on a 32-bit Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1)-based computer. For example, programs such as Microsoft Business Solutions - Navision 3.7 may fail. So, it depends on how much memory requested by the program, the larger the amount, the more likely it will die. In our case, all production CF servers have massive memory (2GB more) and JVM is given a large chunk of it. Hence, the MS06-040 caused them to crash. Not so with the staging/development servers with much less memory and hence less allocation for their JVM. That explains why on some servers this patch cause problems others it does not. I've NOT applied them to the staging/development servers because they are not causing problem there MS said: A supported hotfix is now available from Microsoft, but it is only intended to correct the problem that is described in this article. Only apply it to systems that are experiencing this specific problem. This hotfix may receive additional testing. Therefore, if you are not severely affected by this problem, we recommend that you wait for the next Windows Server 2003 service pack that contains this hotfix. I've verified that after applying this restarting, the previous service that crashes is no longer crashing (good news). I've also re-enabled all the self-test IISTEST script which were disabled earlier. = On 8/25/06, altoids06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are also experiencing exactly the same behaviour. Any help on this would be appreciated... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Cold Fusion Tutor - hourly rate
Hi Pete . we were all cf noobs at one point. and boy! doesn't it bring back memories when you're moving into a new area (like Flex). some obserrvations: I reckon CFAussie is actually a bit quieter than when I first joined up (around RedSky - CF6.1 Beta) so in theory there's room for more questions... asking questions publicly can lead to different solutions, some of which are so left-field or brilliantly simple that others learn from them too. Programmers (eg: me) have a disposition of over complicating stuff... I suspect that one of the reasons CFAussie is a bit quiet now is that the big ticket items have already been covered and are now considered as FAQ's - the platform is that good, stable and straight-forward. That's where searching the archives is such a gem. Suggestion: search first, then ask (and don't be afraid to ask for clarification if you're not sure about something found in the archives). my 2c nothing more cheers barry.b PS: yeah and CFUG's are good value. worth the effort, methinks... On 8/25/06, Adam Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pete, That's what cfaussie is for.. we were all cf noobs at one point. Post your code and what you are trying to achieve and one of the kind souls on the list will point you in the right direction. This list has been good to me over the years.. *sniff* I promised myself I wouldn't cry. Cheers, Adam -Original Message- From: pmayadun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2006 7:10 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Cold Fusion Tutor - hourly rate Hi all, I am trying to (self) learn CF. Primerily via books, the web etc etc. I get stuck sometimes and spend too much time trouble shooting. I have tried via various forums on the web, but it simply doesnt seem to help. Would someone be able to help with explanations as to what i am doing wrong, on an hourely rate? I live in the Gold Coast, so if it is someone in the Gold Coast that would be super. But not all that imp as I can always call and chat... OR if someone can just write some sample code to explain what I have done wrong would be Ok too. many thanks... Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Why buy into CF?
please forgive me if this comes across as trolling but I'm running out of ammo here in trying to keep the CF flag flying here's the question: Why Buy into CF? because of rapid development? - NOPE!: not compared against RubyOnRails, it seems. It's true against Java/JSP development or ASP.NET/C# but CF seems to be no longer the fastest pocket-rocket. because of built-in flash remoting, making it the most cost-effective way of supporting AMF3 for Flex2? - NOPE!: How much does WebORB for Rails cost?.. WebORB for Rails is an open source project. It is available free of charge under the GNU General Public License http://www.themidnightcoders.com/weborb/rubyonrails/faq.htm#howmuch (FYI: WebOrb is a company picking up where PHPAMF left off...) it has features like CFDOCUMENT? Verity? - NOPE!: some ppl (G'day Gareth!) found limitations with CFDocument real fast and switched to using the latest iText libraries natively. Ditto with Verity, replaced with Lucerne. CFREPORT? ... dunno, could never fly that as a solution. too limiting, no interest. FlashForms? ... no call for them really, especially now that Flex2 is out Gateways? ... could never float this as something meaningful. Either the systems were standard, not enterprise - or - the enterprise boxes were stuck on CF6.1 and it's not enough reason to upgrade. it's got a large, active, supportive community? ... I'd say yes compared to Java and .NET... but not against the evangellical RonR world, who seems to gain the strength of 10 because their platform is opensource. ... and everything they touch seems to turn to opensource So, keeping in mind CF8 in development... ... what could possibly entice ppl to buy into CF, either from scratch - or - upgrading from CF6.1? this is a serious ask of, not why CF people are where they are now, but how they can justify traveling down the CF road in the future. (maybe I'm gowing weary of the luddites here that won't upgrade the dwindling number of servers to CF7, the undermining pro-RubyOnRails camp here ... and that opensource WebOrb AMF3 news.. that's the last [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ straw...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
that's my point RonR is following on from the lessons learned from PHP DHH is the new Rasmus Lerdorf my guess is that RonR is (deliberatly or not) stealing ground from PHP, because of cost and opensource. it's just that it seems it's doing the same to CF. On 8/30/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Name the company behind PHP. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Higgins Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 11:01 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? No php? Hmm ... - Original Message - From: Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? There are lots of reasons. It doesn't just give you web stuff it gives you a lot more, like PDF, report writing, Flash / Flex hooks It leverages the power of Java without the complexity. Compared to pulling in lots of different OS / Free solutions to achieve the same result, you are better off with CF. Are these OS options going to be supported long term. Can you find developers who now all these little technologies and can work for you. Were is the support / training for these products. Most likely some of these OS options will grow up and be contenders, but personally I wouldn't be jumping on any platform that wasn't provided by a main stream player. Which in my opinion leaves only three options. 1. Adobe - Coldfusion / Flex 2. Microsoft - .NET 3. Sun - Java Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 10:36 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Why buy into CF? Personally I havent got down with the RoR yet, so I'm not familiar with the ruby language. In terms of a Flex/CF setup there are a lot of benefits. Basically you got the weight of Adobe pushing this combination to enable quick deployment of apps. That includes documentation, examples, engineer feedback, new updates. That being said you must pay. I think I'll have to build a Flex/RoR app first before making an assessment. Regards, Bjorn Schultheiss Senior Flash Developer QDC Technologies -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 10:10 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Why buy into CF? please forgive me if this comes across as trolling but I'm running out of ammo here in trying to keep the CF flag flying here's the question: Why Buy into CF? because of rapid development? - NOPE!: not compared against RubyOnRails, it seems. It's true against Java/JSP development or ASP.NET/C# but CF seems to be no longer the fastest pocket-rocket. because of built-in flash remoting, making it the most cost-effective way of supporting AMF3 for Flex2? - NOPE!: How much does WebORB for Rails cost?.. WebORB for Rails is an open source project. It is available free of charge under the GNU General Public License http://www.themidnightcoders.com/weborb/rubyonrails/faq.htm#howmuch (FYI: WebOrb is a company picking up where PHPAMF left off...) it has features like CFDOCUMENT? Verity? - NOPE!: some ppl (G'day Gareth!) found limitations with CFDocument real fast and switched to using the latest iText libraries natively. Ditto with Verity, replaced with Lucerne. CFREPORT? ... dunno, could never fly that as a solution. too limiting, no interest. FlashForms? ... no call for them really, especially now that Flex2 is out Gateways? ... could never float this as something meaningful. Either the systems were standard, not enterprise - or - the enterprise boxes were stuck on CF6.1 and it's not enough reason to upgrade. it's got a large, active, supportive community? ... I'd say yes compared to Java and .NET... but not against the evangellical RonR world, who seems to gain the strength of 10 because their platform is opensource. ... and everything they touch seems to turn to opensource So, keeping in mind CF8 in development... ... what could possibly entice ppl to buy into CF, either from scratch - or - upgrading from CF6.1? this is a serious ask of, not why CF people are where they are now, but how they can justify traveling down the CF road in the future. (maybe I'm gowing weary of the luddites here that won't upgrade the dwindling number of servers to CF7, the undermining pro-RubyOnRails camp here ... and that opensource WebOrb AMF3 news.. that's the last [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ straw
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
Dale, I'm sure there's a lot of PHP developers that don't know either, nor care. the same for their bosses and their clients. so which Ghostbusters are you going to call if something goes wrong? mothership Adobe that has it's own adgenda? (Let's see how many old CF bugs get sorted with CF8, eh?... QueryOfQueryahem!) - or - a (large) bunch of psycho Rails _* who have posters of DHH to keep them inspired? documentation is a valid point, so is experiance of developers. But who owns it - does it really matter anymore? b * couldn't think of anything here without it possibly comming out as an insult... On 8/30/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see, But I picked them for my comment I wouldn't be jumping on any platform that wasn't provided by a main stream player Thus, I don't know who provides PHP. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 13:01 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? No sorry, my point was Java is a little different to .Net and CF as is php. Java code is open you can do what ever you like with it even rewrite the core code in each release if you wish. CF and .Net are not open at all so it's strange that you included Java in with CF and .Net. my .02 Name the company behind PHP. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Higgins Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 11:01 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? No php? Hmm ... - Original Message - From: Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? There are lots of reasons. It doesn't just give you web stuff it gives you a lot more, like PDF, report writing, Flash / Flex hooks It leverages the power of Java without the complexity. Compared to pulling in lots of different OS / Free solutions to achieve the same result, you are better off with CF. Are these OS options going to be supported long term. Can you find developers who now all these little technologies and can work for you. Were is the support / training for these products. Most likely some of these OS options will grow up and be contenders, but personally I wouldn't be jumping on any platform that wasn't provided by a main stream player. Which in my opinion leaves only three options. 1. Adobe - Coldfusion / Flex 2. Microsoft - .NET 3. Sun - Java Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 10:36 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Why buy into CF? Personally I havent got down with the RoR yet, so I'm not familiar with the ruby language. In terms of a Flex/CF setup there are a lot of benefits. Basically you got the weight of Adobe pushing this combination to enable quick deployment of apps. That includes documentation, examples, engineer feedback, new updates. That being said you must pay. I think I'll have to build a Flex/RoR app first before making an assessment. Regards, Bjorn Schultheiss Senior Flash Developer QDC Technologies -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 10:10 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Why buy into CF? please forgive me if this comes across as trolling but I'm running out of ammo here in trying to keep the CF flag flying here's the question: Why Buy into CF? because of rapid development? - NOPE!: not compared against RubyOnRails, it seems. It's true against Java/JSP development or ASP.NET/C# but CF seems to be no longer the fastest pocket-rocket. because of built-in flash remoting, making it the most cost-effective way of supporting AMF3 for Flex2? - NOPE!: How much does WebORB for Rails cost?.. WebORB for Rails is an open source project. It is available free of charge under the GNU General Public License http://www.themidnightcoders.com/weborb/rubyonrails/faq.htm#howmuch (FYI: WebOrb is a company picking up where PHPAMF left off...) it has features like CFDOCUMENT? Verity? - NOPE!: some ppl (G'day Gareth!) found limitations with CFDocument real fast and switched to using the latest iText libraries natively. Ditto with Verity, replaced with Lucerne. CFREPORT? ... dunno, could never fly that as a solution. too limiting, no interest
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
I still see RoR the same as ModleGlue. but that's just how the apps get written/what to produce. in other words, CF is *not* the final word in RAD. and it doesn't deal with how much it costs to get it out there, which are the valid points that Jeremy and Steve are discussing. and that's the heart of the argument. it now costs about the same (roughly) to run RonR as it does PHP. for a while CF Vs PHP debates have focused on features and RAD. Now RonR is come to prominence, the arguments aren't as clear as that. Mark, while I acknowledge your points on 80/20 (or 90/10) you get that with any platform until you get to know it. How many times have you replaced someone elses hundreds of lines of code with only a couple of your own, just because you know the tricks? And the argument is what again? and the reason for choosing CF is what, again? On 8/30/06, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Coldfusion can be used with a development license, devnet license is free as long as it is never used in production. Now, with eclipse and all the plugins for svn, cvs, jira to name a few it is still free to develop any application I want. Now .Net has a steeper programming curve than CF and you do spend more time developing than CF so the cost becomes irrelevant and should be incorporated into the price of the job you do for your client, unless of course you are hosting yourself then you can recoup the cost by x amount of clients or use a shared hosting which .Net will cost the same amount of money to host roughly. And the argument is what again? I still see RoR the same as ModleGlue. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cfgroupie Sent: Wednesday, 30 August 2006 2:46 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? I see your point steve, but I think your wrong. Firstly; .NET you can develop an app using notepad. Why...cause your a freak and you like your nipples twisted. Secondly; The Cost is once off for the company and in turn can develop many apps to pay it off where they can have that cost built into the product they are building. Sorry, the only real excuse is if the developer doesn't understand the requirements of their application they are building and blows the time out of the water. Jeremy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
but there is no particular magic about it - all the RoR things can be done in CF but Robin, the reverse of that is true too. - all the CF things can be done in RonR. Where's the product differentiation? and now, that includes remoting, which was one selling point I was using in flying the CF flag. Previously, remoting for Java or .NET from Macromedia was almost as expensive as a CF licence so it made sence to have your remoting back end as CF. I find it disquieting that WebOrb are giving remoting for Ruby away for nothing, making it open source to encourage the community to run with it. why _shouldn't_ that be such a big deal? look how far the Red5 ppl have come... RubyOnRails on one side. CF (with Model-glue:unity) on the other so far the strongest arguments for CF are the suggestions of Community support Vs mothership Adobe and that RonR is too new to find developers under every rock. is that all there is? I've beeen trying to use Flex as a trojan horse to sneak in CF (well, a CF7 upgrade): Adobe wants to make CF a first Class citizen for Flex how? where's the meat? only with the ability to map CFC's to AS classes? and how long before there's a Ruby wizard to cover that? Grant Straker presented (at a webDU) an interesting view about selling the Macromedia (at the time) Vision. Don't bore managers with irrelivant technical details, leverage what the company has done and where it was heading. Then, that made sence. But I see that vision fractured in the push by Adobe to reach out to all platforms. I'm stopping short in saying that Adobe should be actively protecting/restricting the AMF3 protocol to provide an advantage to their products like CF. I hate that heavy microsoft-type aproach. Instead, I'm asking what Adobe can learn from RonR? you and I both know of the turn-key app I was working on where it was written for CF7 standard - not enterprise, even if we could have really used the gateways. Bottom line: enterprise licence costs, no matter how hard things were juggled (partner prices, bulk licences, etc). there seems to be a nasty pro/anti open source debate that CF is caught up in yet again. Last time it was with PHP, but this time, the teeth seem sharper... so, compared to this latest onslaught, where's the compelling reasons? What will make me say, yeah, I can sell that... ? last point: Microsoft doesn't have to release a technology roadmap because everyone knows how the story goes: a two pronged attack starting at the file server on one side and the SOe and MSOffice on the other. From there it's Outlook, Exchange, SQLServer, Sharepoint, Project Server and whatever bloated overpriced product they've sucked ITO's into buying subscriptions for. but where's Adobe's roadmap? and more importantly, where's CF's place in it? Will people care if there's livecycle integration in CF? what else is there... that no one else has? It's time for those that say that the Emperor has magnificent clothes to state what @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ colour they are... On 8/31/06, Robin Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/08/2006, at 3:24 PM, Mark Stanton wrote: Hi Andrew I still see RoR the same as ModleGlue. Here is the rails API documentation: http://api.rubyonrails.com/ If you take the ColdSpring, MG, Reactor and CFAjax + big chunks of the CF language (where CF is abstracting away tricky stuff like queries, mail, includes, custom tags, etc..) you'll end up with something like Rails. A lot of the things in the rails docco (e.g. controllers, view helpers) were also mentioned in my presso at Webdu. One point that no-one has mentioned yet: CF runs as Java bytecode, on a VM which both Sun and IBM have spent 100s of millions of development dollars optimising over the last decade. This was the whole point of the MX release. Ruby still runs in it's own proprietary interpreter (hmm, kind of like... CF = 5) which is a fair bit slower (although you can write high performance code in any language with appropriate caching etc, and most of the 37Signals RoR apps at least are very fast). As I have stated publicly elsewhere I think Ruby is a great language (and it's use of mixins for it's libraries too), and RoR is a sensible web app framework, but there is no particular magic about it - all the RoR things can be done in CF and in fact are being done under the auspices of various existing CF frameworks, but the ever present CF cultural cringe factor tends to make the community think that somehow good patterns, frameworks etc only happen to other platforms... __ Robin Hilliard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
If RonR can pretty much do everything CF can do, and it's free - why would a company pay the extra dollars? well, that part of it sort-of evolved, but it's not the whole story if you factor in Jeremy's points of moving to .NET, and us with Java/JSP. and as a litmus test and leaving a direct comparison with RonR out of it, I'm still trying to get enough reasons to get 2 lousy boxes upgraded to CF7 to make my life easier - and failing. I was getting so desperate I was hoping for some Flash (Flex) UI to justify the need for remoting (and AMF3), but aparently you can get Flash remoting in Corn Flakes packets now-a-days I just hope CF8 has some must-haves in there On 8/31/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I'm reading Barry - your argument comes down to one simple question - If RonR can pretty much do everything CF can do, and it's free - why would a company pay the extra dollars? Would the be correct? Mark On 8/31/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, I was talking about the frameworks, not Ruby vs CFML - and I think there's been plenty of responses on this thread that include things CF can do that RoR cannot (esp. Java based and all that entails - I take it that QUT aren't a J2EE house). we will be well on the way by next year, thanx to the introduction of Blackboard but we'll be using Java and JSP to hook into the Bb API. All but a couple of CF servers will left to fester away, waiting to be put out of their misery. Of the remaining ones, I'm hard pressed to get enough reasons to upgrade to CF7. But if you're looking for me or anyone else to come up with a RoR is a dud and CF is god's own because of X, it's not going to happen. If you can live with the constraints of RoR or CF, then at the end of the day a skilled development team will make more difference than the platform you choose. we've already started to blow away the JSP/Java cobwebs to support this change. But what you're saying is that there is no compelling reason to use CF. If we wanted RAD, then RonR is just as legit and cheaper! I'm personally curious to see how you go as a RoR developer - nah, I don't like the syntax. I don't like PHP for the same reasons. If I have to spend days typing stuff out I might as well enjoy it. I think this discussion would have a bit more meat too it if a current RoR developer were involved. from this end the discussion points are being driven from a staff CF'er now converted to RonR. did you see Sean Corfields blog post that touched on this a while back? and the response of former CF'ers now using RonR? Sure, your right. the stuff is just a hammer. But we also know that developers don't always make the platform choices for projects. I give up. I'll shut up now. I must be the only person on-list that thinks RubyOnRails could make a serious dent to CF's market share. and that the current feature set - for the price and compared to other platforms - could do a lot more to entice projects to buy into CF. -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
aye and I've *heard* that Talent2 have some chunky modules to deilver for a large brisbane-based university _THAT_USED_TO_RUN_COLDFUSION_!!! somedays it feels like being a pixie about 2 inches high, jumping up and down waving arms everywhere shouting (at pixie volume) use coldfusion.. it's great! still waiting for the great Adobe CF promotional jugganaught to kick in... On 9/5/06, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An Ad i found in seek this morning. This is what I have to deal with everyday at work. A financially secure, ASX listed company who provides IT services to organisations of all sizes across the Asia Pacific region, is seeking an experienced ColdFusion/.Net Developer. Working in a team self-described as a crazy, technical bunch of people, who know their stuff and have a good sense of humour; the ColdFusion/.Net Developer will need to be a positive person who thinks laterally and has excellent problem solving and people skills. While 90% of current development is written in ColdFusion with a SQL Server 2000 backend, it is envisaged that in 6 to 12 months time most applications will have been converted to .Net2. Because of this, candidate's with both ColdFusion and ASP.net skills are encouraged to apply (candidates with both skills are preferred). If you want to work for a company who values their culture and promotes a social environment with employee benefits then apply now or call Joel Richards at Talent2 in our Brisbane office on (07) 3295 7410 quoting reference number: 13569 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
but there's plenty of available Java programmers and they didn't go there. number one feature I want for ColdFusion 8: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the features, I want decent, widespread marketing. More than just to the converted. Get over this hump (struggle getting consideration for contracts, struggle getting enough developers) by refusing to be the best kept secret. Forget your mega budget push from Microsoft, I'm still astounded/disgusted in the amount of hype that surounds the RubyOnRails camp. did you know that 37Signals has done a deal with Apple so the next version of OS-X comming out will have RonR included on every copy, ready to install and run? sure you can still get it off the website, but think of the kudos. Go on Adobe, top that! On 9/5/06, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the same old argument, no developers to fill the role then looks look at what the market offers where there is plenty of skill. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cfgroupie Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 8:09 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? An Ad i found in seek this morning. This is what I have to deal with everyday at work. A financially secure, ASX listed company who provides IT services to organisations of all sizes across the Asia Pacific region, is seeking an experienced ColdFusion/.Net Developer. Working in a team self-described as a crazy, technical bunch of people, who know their stuff and have a good sense of humour; the ColdFusion/.Net Developer will need to be a positive person who thinks laterally and has excellent problem solving and people skills. While 90% of current development is written in ColdFusion with a SQL Server 2000 backend, it is envisaged that in 6 to 12 months time most applications will have been converted to .Net2. Because of this, candidate's with both ColdFusion and ASP.net skills are encouraged to apply (candidates with both skills are preferred). If you want to work for a company who values their culture and promotes a social environment with employee benefits then apply now or call Joel Richards at Talent2 in our Brisbane office on (07) 3295 7410 quoting reference number: 13569 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
well, Robin, I'll bow to your experiance and position in the industry and gladly accept the view that what's happening to Jeremy and I is mearly an aberation (caused by different circumstances). Others people's milage obviously vary to this. and if you're comfrortable with the current marketing efforts and growth of the product here in Australia then that will do me. I'm still concerned where new blood will come from but I only mentioned the Apple/37Signals connection because it's one of those simple and cheap/free gestures (and in reality, no big deal) that may help to raise a products profile world-wide. Hype on hype perhaps. But can you understand why it sometimes feels like an underground resistance movement, a secret covenant? For the record, I'm not interested in CF being $free. More important to my motovation in using and evangelising the product is value for money. Jeremy's situation seems trapped in a MS lock-in and percieved value regarding TOC. In my current circumstances I'm looking for worth in the product that may have been overlooked in decisions - something I can leverage. Gateways might be, flashforms aren't. Remoting was for a while. I've always appreciated good ideas so it's sad when they get washed away. And if the thing is worth it, then it's worth fighting for. b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
and I apologise to all and sundary for accidently making this the longest and most obtuce thread on cfaussie. Perhaps I'm a bit too protective of the fact that I like what I do and the tools I use and it irks me to throw away good ideas for bad. http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Java cheers b On 9/8/06, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you took that in the spirit it was intended - I thought about that email last night cringed about being too harsh... No offence intended :) Just came across this this morning - http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/09/07/JRuby-guys - maybe we'll be able to run ruby code in our CF applications at some point in the future? On 9/7/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/7/06, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMG - another free software consipracy - quick get the DOJ onto it! Did you know Adobe (formerly Macromedia) have done a devious deal with those evil communists at the Apache Foundation to secretly bundle the Xerces parser and Axis web services engine with every copy of Coldfusion? Go on Adobe, top that! Bleh - Acrobat Reader owz you. ROTFLMAO!! you're a funny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark! I stand happily ridiculed. thanx for cheering up my day. I needed it cheers b -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Flash Lite
Jeremy, just so you know, (and if this is old news, at least it's a mention)... there's usergroup support for the flashlite platform here in Brisbane, mentored by Dale Rankine (hope it's still going strong) http://www.ozmadgroup.com/ On 9/11/06, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robin, Thanks! But do you need Flash Professional to run it i.e. program applications for it. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Querying across multiple databases
Hi all I think I remember a post on this before but I can't find it anywhere. the app I'm extending uses 2 databases (2 diff DSN's). I now need to pull in data from both into the same recordset. eg: SELECT SCHED.StartDateTime, SCHED.EndDateTime, SCHED.Quiz_ID, INST.AbsoluteSerialNum FROM tbl_Quiz_Schedule AS SCHED INNER JOIN evaluations.dbo.tbl_InstrumentReleased AS INST ON INST.OnlineQuizID = SCHED.Quiz_ID I could: - use Query'o'query to combine 2 seperate queries into one (too much irrelivant data) - put the SQL onto one of the DB's as a SProc (back-up plan) - work out how to join the two databases within the same CFQUERY (preferred) any suggestions? thanx barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Querying across multiple databases
Thanx Rod well, bugger me, it worked! cfquery name=qry datasource=FOUREX SELECT SCHED.StartDateTime, SCHED.EndDateTime, SCHED.Quiz_ID, INST.AbsoluteSerialNum FROM evaluationsQuizDev.dbo.tbl_Quiz_Schedule AS SCHED INNER JOIN tbl_InstrumentReleased AS INST ON INST.OnlineQuizID = SCHED.Quiz_ID /cfquery cfdump var=#qry# expand=false I suppose it'd crash'n'burn if the username/password was changed per database, not just logon to the db server...yes? thanx again b On 9/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are the databases on the same sql server? If so you can simply include the database name as part of the query. ie dbname.dbuser.dbtable Hi all I think I remember a post on this before but I can't find it anywhere. the app I'm extending uses 2 databases (2 diff DSN's). I now need to pull in data from both into the same recordset. eg: SELECT SCHED.StartDateTime, SCHED.EndDateTime, SCHED.Quiz_ID, INST.AbsoluteSerialNum FROM tbl_Quiz_Schedule AS SCHED INNER JOIN evaluations.dbo.tbl_InstrumentReleased AS INST ON INST.OnlineQuizID = SCHED.Quiz_ID I could: - use Query'o'query to combine 2 seperate queries into one (too much irrelivant data) - put the SQL onto one of the DB's as a SProc (back-up plan) - work out how to join the two databases within the same CFQUERY (preferred) any suggestions? thanx barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
to tie these comments back to the thread title, I really hope that this is more than some lame thread-watching tool. I'm continually impressed with VisualStudio.NET's debugging. breakpoints, line-by-line code execution, watching variables - anywhere in the code - even being able to drill down thru complex datasets or child-of-child-of-child objects. and before ppl say that ASP.NET and CF work differently, they're actually a lot similar than you'd expect. Ya gotta admit - for all their faults and failings, Microsoft makes damn decent developer tools. For years SQLServer's Enterprise Mgr/QueryAnalyser was *the* standard set. the db tools in VS.NET are even better (for coders, not necesarily DBA's) Where's the ColdFusion IDE that does that? I sure hope it's comming with either CF8 or Studio9 (or whatever Flash+Dreamwaever will be bundled with). I appreciate CFEclipse and Mark and Rob's efforts but I want more. Sure, you can get close by adding other plug-ins to Eclipse (QuantumDB, etc) but both in key areas (eg debugging) and refinements, there's still lots of catch-up (I admit source control is an area VS.NET loses on but unlike debugging, that can be worked around). And why the heck is it left to a bunch of hard-working open-source developers to create an IDE for a commercial prodct? What's the parent company doing - sitting on it's hands? Macromedia, Adobe - both companies that make a living creating IDE's... wot? they don't know how to do it? The official IDE is *still* Homesite. It seems it comes down CF market share. Return on investment. But what about belief in one's stable of products and provide the tools to use them? does that have value? If there is a new CF IDE comming out from Adobe soon, I just hope it's the bees-knees. With exellent in-editor debugging. I expect nothing less. It is, after all, the standard the competition is at. I wait with abated breath... On 9/13/06, Shane Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he wouldn't elaborate to much on it but it seemed to be pretty much that, he did also mention you'll be able to see/monitor all threads running and kill them etc, as well as open up cf more and see what exactly is happening under the hood and what you'll be able to tell from it Java 5 lets you do this (JConsole). We have to do this with Tomcat some times... it seems once you give Tomcat some memory, it really doesn't like giving it back until you make it! This could point us in the direction of future releases of CF running on Java 5 or maybe even Java 6 (which should be released soon). Leads into another interesting idea of attaching a Java debugger to the VM, but unless it is done like JSP is, you wont be able to step through the CF code (I know WebMacro can't be done like that). Maybe that is one direction that could be explored... its late and I really have to stop day dreaming. It probably has been explored and found to not be feasable Shane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
just to be clear here - four points: Adobe CF (and BD for that matter) is a commercial product, not opensource. the CF marketshare is too small/fragile to leave support of the platform (tools) to outside sources... for a commercial product (why do I care? if the tools are inadequate, no one will want to use it) Adobe (and Macromedia before) make IDE's for a living. However (AFAIK) only New Atlanta have given any support to Mark Drew and Rob Rohan for CFEclipse. IMHO, the comparison of ASP.NET IDE's and CF's is more valid than with PHP or Ruby. They both create a revenue stream for the parent company, ensuring (hopefully) it's longevity. or is the CF community comfortable with this situation? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
thanx Charlie, I did see the post but too late. I will definately give it a whirl when I reach a hiatus in my work later today. I read some pearls of wisdom somewhere tho, that may also apply to, ahem, ColdFusion IDE's. As a commercial product, you can also take consolation that it will indeed work as advertised and if it doesn't that there will be a company behind it to help support, improve, and evangelize it. couldn't have said it better me'self. Joel: Railo, yes but surprised how far they've got since I last looked and astounded by the existance of others On 9/14/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to sound like a broken record, but since it's unclear if Barry has seen or will see the note I'd sent an hour or so before his, I'll say again that there is indeed interactive step debugging for CFML now, in FusionDebug, albeit it's not from Adobe and it's not for free (though it is based on Eclipse). The question of whether Adobe should provide such instead is a whole other discussion, of course, some of which you've addressed below and your later note. Just want to make sure that those calling for debugging know that it is indeed now available. /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:39 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? to tie these comments back to the thread title, I really hope that this is more than some lame thread-watching tool. I'm continually impressed with VisualStudio.NET's debugging. breakpoints, line-by-line code execution, watching variables - anywhere in the code - even being able to drill down thru complex datasets or child-of-child-of-child objects. and before ppl say that ASP.NET and CF work differently, they're actually a lot similar than you'd expect. Ya gotta admit - for all their faults and failings, Microsoft makes damn decent developer tools. For years SQLServer's Enterprise Mgr/QueryAnalyser was *the* standard set. the db tools in VS.NET are even better (for coders, not necesarily DBA's) Where's the ColdFusion IDE that does that? I sure hope it's comming with either CF8 or Studio9 (or whatever Flash+Dreamwaever will be bundled with). I appreciate CFEclipse and Mark and Rob's efforts but I want more. Sure, you can get close by adding other plug-ins to Eclipse (QuantumDB, etc) but both in key areas (eg debugging) and refinements, there's still lots of catch-up (I admit source control is an area VS.NET loses on but unlike debugging, that can be worked around). And why the heck is it left to a bunch of hard-working open-source developers to create an IDE for a commercial prodct? What's the parent company doing - sitting on it's hands? Macromedia, Adobe - both companies that make a living creating IDE's... wot? they don't know how to do it? The official IDE is *still* Homesite. It seems it comes down CF market share. Return on investment. But what about belief in one's stable of products and provide the tools to use them? does that have value? If there is a new CF IDE comming out from Adobe soon, I just hope it's the bees-knees. With exellent in-editor debugging. I expect nothing less. It is, after all, the standard the competition is at. I wait with abated breath... On 9/13/06, Shane Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he wouldn't elaborate to much on it but it seemed to be pretty much that, he did also mention you'll be able to see/monitor all threads running and kill them etc, as well as open up cf more and see what exactly is happening under the hood and what you'll be able to tell from it Java 5 lets you do this (JConsole). We have to do this with Tomcat some times... it seems once you give Tomcat some memory, it really doesn't like giving it back until you make it! This could point us in the direction of future releases of CF running on Java 5 or maybe even Java 6 (which should be released soon). Leads into another interesting idea of attaching a Java debugger to the VM, but unless it is done like JSP is, you wont be able to step through the CF code (I know WebMacro can't be done like that). Maybe that is one direction that could be explored... its late and I really have to stop day dreaming. It probably has been explored and found to not be feasable Shane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Web Skype Plugin
Andrew, when you say chat you mean audio, yes? I woulda thought it was more of a FMS type of thing On 9/14/06, Andrew Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dale, You could build it with Flex Data Services Express, it's possible to use it to build chat apps - I've seen it in training and it's pretty neat. On 14/09/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want a plugin or API so that I can integrate into our website the ability for customers to text chat to one of many people who might be available. So what I'm thinking is there might be 4 people in support and we will order them. Then when you enter into a webpage something it will chat to the first available person. It would also need to know if no one was online and let the customers know. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Web Skype Plugin
Dale, I'm intrigued. use skype as a text-based communication protocol? like this? http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;367176;fp;2;fpid;1 sheesh! another thing I'm going to have to read up on... cheers barry.b On 9/15/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No not audio. I mean text. So they type into the website and we talk back via skype. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:57 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Web Skype Plugin Andrew, when you say chat you mean audio, yes? I woulda thought it was more of a FMS type of thing On 9/14/06, Andrew Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dale, You could build it with Flex Data Services Express, it's possible to use it to build chat apps - I've seen it in training and it's pretty neat. On 14/09/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want a plugin or API so that I can integrate into our website the ability for customers to text chat to one of many people who might be available. So what I'm thinking is there might be 4 people in support and we will order them. Then when you enter into a webpage something it will chat to the first available person. It would also need to know if no one was online and let the customers know. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Adobe Third Quarter Fiscal 2006 Earnings Conference Call: Breeze presentation
no? surely it's only a matter of time before Bruce Chizen mentions that CF product thingy... On 9/18/06, ACTCFUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not much on ColdFusion or Flex which is disappointing but... http://www.actcfug.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=NewsViewNewsID=249 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Multiple Level Inheritance
He's talking about a scenario where inheritence goes up more than one level. aye parent-child-grandchild The OO guy in me does ask tho - is this something that *has* to be done through inheritence, or can it be done throuhg composition? aye, aye. that be what I wuz drivin' at. shiver me timbers. barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] getting the name of the calling method within another CFC
I think I've come across this before but I've gotten rusty and can't remember. if I have a method in Foo.cfc called GetBarByID() and in that I'm calling other CFC's cffunction name=GetBarByID()... cfset someVal = _helper.GetConverter().DoSomething(value) / (note: _helper.GetConverter() is a reference to another CFC that decorates _helper.. so it's cfc.cfc.method) how can .DoSomething(value) know that it was called by Foo.GetBarByID() (this is for both CF6.1 and CF7) thanx barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: getting the name of the calling method within another CFC
thanx Blair just have to play around with parent to get what I want. cheers b On 9/26/06, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bennadel.com/blog/116-Finding-Template-Execution-Stack-in-ColdFusion.htm Blair On 9/26/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I've come across this before but I've gotten rusty and can't remember. if I have a method in Foo.cfc called GetBarByID() and in that I'm calling other CFC's cffunction name=GetBarByID()... cfset someVal = _helper.GetConverter().DoSomething(value) / (note: _helper.GetConverter() is a reference to another CFC that decorates _helper.. so it's cfc.cfc.method) how can .DoSomething(value) know that it was called by Foo.GetBarByID() (this is for both CF6.1 and CF7) thanx barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
and secondly, if our business moves from CF to JSP, am I going to be able to salvage the existing CF applications easily? sorry to say, no hope. do you use an MVC pattern much? do you have the view done up as re-usable custom tags in a tag library? one of Robin Hilliard's pearls of wisdom is to identify what/where your expensive code is: what is critical to an app that took lots of resources (people, hours, dev time, testing) to create. if that expensive code is all in your business and model layers (eg: as CFC's) then, sorry to say if you want it as Java, it's re-write time. if it's in the UI (don't laugh, I've seen apps where the business and model are [almost] autogenerated but the expense was in the UI getting the Javascript and tab-orders right) - and it's in taglibs - then the transfer from cfml to jsp won't be too bad - lots of similarities between JSP taglibs and CF ones (and the HTML and JS won't change) in short: CF to JSP/Java conversion will be along the lines of CF to, say, PHP or .NET. Apples and oranges. best answer? try to talk them out of the move. ADDITIONAL: there's an interesting article by Hal Helms in the July edition of the ColdFusion Developers Journal (A new vision for ColdFusion) that raises interesting points about CF and Java. While the points are not new, IMHO it's well worth the read before your bosses send you down this path. eh, my 2c. nothing more. b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] REMINDER: CFUG QLD 6:30 pm, Tuesday, October 3 2006
Details: When : 6:30 pm, Tuesday, 3rd of October 2006 Where : ABN AMRO Morgans Limited Level 29, 123 Eagle Street (Riverside Centre) Brisbane CBD QLD 4000 Topics: ColdFusion: First Class Flex Citizen More details here: http://qld.cfug.org.au/ This month at CFUG QLD: Hot on the heals of the growing interest in Adobe's Flex Authoring, the October meeting of the Qld CFUG is delving into how to get Coldfusion into the act. This will be an easing into the Flex world with follow-ups planned for the rest of the year. This month, our very own Richard Turner-Jones, borrowed from QMUG, will be presenting in person what it means to have Flex hooked up to a ColdFusion back-end. Adobe engineers have been working hard to try and make ColdFusion a first class citizen in the Flex world, so this month (and further) we'll be exploring just what that means for ColdFusion programmers. so... if you're interested and can make it, RSVP now - it'll put you into the prize draw (and if you've RSVP'ed previously, try again - you might go into the draw for twice the chances) IF YOU DON'T RSVP, YOU DON'T GO IN THE PRIZE DRAW! How To RSVP: --- the Queensland ColdFusion User Group now has a new announcement mailing list. If you're at all interested in attending, or being aware of, the monthly meetings we hold, then head over to http://groups.google.com/group/qldcfug and joining the list (its another Google Group, so joining is easy, and you already know how to do it!). It a very low volume, one way list with typically just 2 emails a month (eg: this email is typically one of them). cheers The CFUG QLD Crew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
