Re: [c-nsp] setting source address for icmp messages

2009-02-08 Thread Ziv Leyes
Most recent IOS (last 2-3 years) support for sure the option to put everything 
on the fly on one line, for example:

ping 1.1.1.1 source loopback0 repeat 1000 size 512 timeout 2 validate df-bit 
etc, etc... 

A command followed by a question mark is always helpful, a lot of commands can 
be extended on a single command line

Ziv




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Subject: [c-nsp] setting source address for icmp messages

Hello,

I'm trying to learn how to get my 7204vxr to not send icmp messages with 
the source ip of interface the message is being sent out. I have a 
public ip on my loopback and thought this was what ios preferred if it 
exists? I have some other interfaces which have 10.x.x.x addresses and 
icmp messages like host unreachable and such are sourced from this which 
is undesirable due to inbound filtering at many sites at their gateways 
for rfc1918 and other bogon addresses.

Am I being silly to want this or is there something I can do to get my 
way here?

Tks.

Mike-
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Re: [c-nsp] setting source address for icmp messages

2009-02-08 Thread Mike

No.

I am trying to ensure that if the router ever emits icmp messages like 
'destination host unreachable', 'icmp frag needed' and the like, that 
I'm using a public routed ip and not some random flavor of the week ip 
related to whatever interface the router thinks is closer to the problem.







Ziv Leyes wrote:

Most recent IOS (last 2-3 years) support for sure the option to put everything 
on the fly on one line, for example:

ping 1.1.1.1 source loopback0 repeat 1000 size 512 timeout 2 validate df-bit etc, etc... 


A command followed by a question mark is always helpful, a lot of commands can be 
extended on a single command line

Ziv




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Subject: [c-nsp] setting source address for icmp messages

Hello,

I'm trying to learn how to get my 7204vxr to not send icmp messages with 
the source ip of interface the message is being sent out. I have a 
public ip on my loopback and thought this was what ios preferred if it 
exists? I have some other interfaces which have 10.x.x.x addresses and 
icmp messages like host unreachable and such are sourced from this which 
is undesirable due to inbound filtering at many sites at their gateways 
for rfc1918 and other bogon addresses.


Am I being silly to want this or is there something I can do to get my 
way here?


Tks.

Mike-
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[c-nsp] WS-6500-SFM insertion into production box, much of an impact?

2009-02-08 Thread Ben Steele
Howdy,
I'm looking for some info on the insertion of a SFM into a live 6500(Sup2
obviously), can't seem to find any info on Cisco as to the consequences this
may have to traffic flowing through the Bus at the time(ie dropped packet
rates), and I want to know if the modules go from using Bus only backplane
to crossbar as soon as the module initiates or whether a reload would
actually be required for this.

Cheers

Ben
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[c-nsp] vlan needs help

2009-02-08 Thread Deric Kwok
Hi

I try to configure vlan in switch 4948

eg:

port1 and port2 unchange
port3-port15 vlan2
port16 to port24 vlan3

When I try to connect this 4948 switch (eg: port 4) to another upstream
switch,  machines eg: 192.168.0.100 in upstream  switch can't ping to
machine eg: 192.168.0.222 in port3 or port15 of 4948

I check the light in those ports connected are flashing.

I also setup ip in int vlan2 as 192.168.0.30 as same network but it still
won't work

Do I need to setup anything to make it work?

Thank you
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Re: [c-nsp] WS-6500-SFM insertion into production box, much of an impact?

2009-02-08 Thread Masood Ahmad Shah
Yea it is hot-swappable. You must install the Switch Fabric Module in either
slot 5 or slot 6 of the Catalyst 6506 switch. For redundancy, you can
install a standby Switch Fabric Module. The module first installed functions
as the primary module. When you install two Switch Fabric Modules at the
same time, the module in slot 5 acts as the primary module, and the module
in slot 6 acts as the backup. If you reset the module in slot 5, the module
in slot 6 becomes the primary module.


Regards,
Masood
Blog: http://weblogs.com.pk/jahil/


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Subject: [c-nsp] WS-6500-SFM insertion into production box, much of an
impact?

Howdy,
I'm looking for some info on the insertion of a SFM into a live 6500(Sup2
obviously), can't seem to find any info on Cisco as to the consequences this
may have to traffic flowing through the Bus at the time(ie dropped packet
rates), and I want to know if the modules go from using Bus only backplane
to crossbar as soon as the module initiates or whether a reload would
actually be required for this.

Cheers

Ben
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Re: [c-nsp] WS-6500-SFM insertion into production box, much of an impact?

2009-02-08 Thread Ben Steele
Thank you for cut and pasting the information from Cisco that i've already
read :)
Seriously though, that doesn't answer my question.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Masood Ahmad Shah mas...@nexlinx.net.pkwrote:

 Yea it is hot-swappable. You must install the Switch Fabric Module in
 either
 slot 5 or slot 6 of the Catalyst 6506 switch. For redundancy, you can
 install a standby Switch Fabric Module. The module first installed
 functions
 as the primary module. When you install two Switch Fabric Modules at the
 same time, the module in slot 5 acts as the primary module, and the module
 in slot 6 acts as the backup. If you reset the module in slot 5, the module
 in slot 6 becomes the primary module.


 Regards,
 Masood
 Blog: http://weblogs.com.pk/jahil/


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 Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:57 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] WS-6500-SFM insertion into production box, much of an
 impact?

 Howdy,
 I'm looking for some info on the insertion of a SFM into a live 6500(Sup2
 obviously), can't seem to find any info on Cisco as to the consequences
 this
 may have to traffic flowing through the Bus at the time(ie dropped packet
 rates), and I want to know if the modules go from using Bus only backplane
 to crossbar as soon as the module initiates or whether a reload would
 actually be required for this.

 Cheers

 Ben
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Re: [c-nsp] WS-6500-SFM insertion into production box, much of an impact?

2009-02-08 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Remember that full SFM usage requires all modules to be
fabric-enabled. If there are any line cards that aren't fabric
enabled, all traffic will still go thru the bus, doesn't matter if it
is an OIR or from power-up.

Your question is if this OIR stands for Online Insertion and Removal
or for Online Insertion and Reboot... although I don't know the
answer, what I saw over the years is that even if it doesn't require a
reboot, you will want to do one, because any issues will have after
that will make you wonder whether if it's due to OIR or not, so you
will end up rebooting anyway.

So, reboot while you have a planned window to do so, not when you are
under pressure.


Rubens


On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Ben Steele illcrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy,
 I'm looking for some info on the insertion of a SFM into a live 6500(Sup2
 obviously), can't seem to find any info on Cisco as to the consequences this
 may have to traffic flowing through the Bus at the time(ie dropped packet
 rates), and I want to know if the modules go from using Bus only backplane
 to crossbar as soon as the module initiates or whether a reload would
 actually be required for this.

 Cheers

 Ben
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Re: [c-nsp] WS-6500-SFM insertion into production box, much of an impact?

2009-02-08 Thread Ben Steele
Thanks Rubens, i'm aware of the line card requirements to operate in full
compact mode, my question i'm really interested in is during the insertion
of the module is there any dropped packets while the cards move from a Bus
switching mode to compact switching.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember that full SFM usage requires all modules to be
 fabric-enabled. If there are any line cards that aren't fabric
 enabled, all traffic will still go thru the bus, doesn't matter if it
 is an OIR or from power-up.

 Your question is if this OIR stands for Online Insertion and Removal
 or for Online Insertion and Reboot... although I don't know the
 answer, what I saw over the years is that even if it doesn't require a
 reboot, you will want to do one, because any issues will have after
 that will make you wonder whether if it's due to OIR or not, so you
 will end up rebooting anyway.

 So, reboot while you have a planned window to do so, not when you are
 under pressure.


 Rubens


 On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Ben Steele illcrit...@gmail.com wrote:
  Howdy,
  I'm looking for some info on the insertion of a SFM into a live 6500(Sup2
  obviously), can't seem to find any info on Cisco as to the consequences
 this
  may have to traffic flowing through the Bus at the time(ie dropped packet
  rates), and I want to know if the modules go from using Bus only
 backplane
  to crossbar as soon as the module initiates or whether a reload would
  actually be required for this.
 
  Cheers
 
  Ben
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Re: [c-nsp] vlan needs help

2009-02-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday 09 February 2009 08:08:23 am Deric Kwok wrote:

 When I try to connect this 4948 switch (eg: port 4) to
 another upstream switch,  machines eg: 192.168.0.100 in
 upstream  switch can't ping to machine eg: 192.168.0.222
 in port3 or port15 of 4948

Is the connection between both switches configured as an 
802.1Q trunk? If so, make sure you're allowing all VLAN ID's 
across this trunk (to check that things are working first, 
then filter if necessary).

Is the VLAN ID between both switches for this subnet the 
same?

Do you have the VLAN ID's configured in the VLAN database of 
either switch (I think later code does this automatically 
when a VLAN ID is assigned to a port, but I can't be sure 
how universal this is)?

Cheers,

Mark.




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Re: [c-nsp] WS-6500-SFM insertion into production box, much of an impact?

2009-02-08 Thread Terje Bless
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Ben Steele illcrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Rubens, i'm aware of the line card requirements to operate in full
 compact mode, my question i'm really interested in is during the insertion
 of the module is there any dropped packets while the cards move from a Bus
 switching mode to compact switching.

It's been a while so my mind may be playing tricks on me, but as I
recall the box hiccups a bit while it does its backplane sync magic
and then continues on its merry way. Depending on timing and your
traffic patterns this event may or may not rate as noticeable to
your users.

Note that I can't swear that my recollection reflects inserting a new
SFM into a box currently in bus mode (as opposed to swapping out an
existing SFM), so YMMV. I'll echo the recommendation to schedule
downtime and reload the box just to be sure.

-link
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Re: [c-nsp] setting source address for icmp messages

2009-02-08 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Mike  wrote on Monday, February 09, 2009 00:28:

 No.
 
 I am trying to ensure that if the router ever emits icmp messages like
 'destination host unreachable', 'icmp frag needed' and the like, that
 I'm using a public routed ip and not some random flavor of the week ip
 related to whatever interface the router thinks is closer to the
 problem. 

I don't think this can be done..

oli
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Re: [c-nsp] learned routes disappear

2009-02-08 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Paul,

looks like you're preferring the route from the upstream over your
customer's advertisement (for whatever reason), so it is expected that
Router B is not advertising the path received from your customer/Router
A.

You are correct: The PfxRcd counter in show ip bgp sum only shows the
best paths, you need to look at show ip bgp neighbor x.x.x.x (or show
ip bgp neighbor x.x.x.x routes) to see all paths..

oli


Paul A  wrote on Sunday, February 08, 2009 00:50:

 Hi Michael,
 
 
 
 it seems as I look more and more into this, mind you I'm no bgp
 expert, I think what is happening might be normal iBGP behavior. 
 
 
 
 Heres how the network is setup.
 
 
 
 Router A (customer) which connects to router B (my router) . Router B
 is connection to router C (my 2nd router) over iBGP. 
 
 
 
 My BGP customer advertises 5 routes. The router directly connected to
 my customer's bgp router (Router A)  shows all  5 routes when I do a
 (sh ip bgp sum).  
 
 Router C (my 2nd router iBGP) only shows these 5 router when I type
 show ip bgp sum for about a 1:15 to 1:30 minutes then the routes
 disappear from State/PfxRcd.  
 
 
 
 When I do a show ip bgp on router B for one of the received routes
 from router A (cust router) it's says: 
 
 
 
 Paths: (2 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
 
 Multipath: iBGP
 
   Not advertised to any peer
 
 
 
 The second best route being from my customer (router A) and the 1st 
 best route being from Router C (my second iBGP router) 
 
 
 
 
 
 Now on Router C, where I'm confused when I do show ip bgp  for the
 same route I see. 
 
 
 
 Paths: (2 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
 
   Advertised to update-groups:
 
  1
 
 
 
 Both routes being from my two up streams on that router.
 
 
 
 My confusion is when I do a show ip bgp sum router B's neighbor
 address I see 5 routes under State/PfxRcd then after a minute or two
 they disappear.  
 
 
 
 Is this normal ibgp behavior? Are the router listed under
 State/PfxRcd only routes that are inserted in the routing table? 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Michael K. Smith - Adhost [mailto:mksm...@adhost.com]
 Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:47 PM
 To: Paul A
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: RE: [c-nsp] learned routes disappear
 
 
 
 Hello Paul:
 
 
 Paul A wrote:
 Hi, I'm having a bgp issue I can't figure out and hoping someone
 has ran into this. 
 
 
 
 I have two routers, router A and router B doing bgp.
 
 
 
 Router A is advertising 5 routes to router B, when the session 1st
 comes up, router B has 5 routes received from router A. After 1:15
 min the learned routes on router B disappear. 
 
 
 How are the routes getting into BGP?  Are the coming in via tie-down
 routes in the IGP somewhere?  Could it be that you have an IGP
 failure of some sort such that the routes are being withdrawn
 legitimately?   
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike
 
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Re: [c-nsp] WS-6500-SFM insertion into production box, much of an impact?

2009-02-08 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 10:26:42AM +1030, Ben Steele wrote:
 I'm looking for some info on the insertion of a SFM into a live 6500(Sup2
 obviously), can't seem to find any info on Cisco as to the consequences this
 may have to traffic flowing through the Bus at the time(ie dropped packet
 rates), and I want to know if the modules go from using Bus only backplane
 to crossbar as soon as the module initiates or whether a reload would
 actually be required for this.

I've never done this, so I can speak from personal experience.

Judging from the overwall way the box decides how to do switching
(if there is a 3A DFC in the system, all 3B PFCs fall back to 3A mode,
and you need a reload to get it back to 3B), my guess would be you
can insert it just fine, but it won't be used for switching unless you
reload.  So I'd schedule a maintenance window with downtime.

I'm looking forward to hear about your experiences, though :-)

gert

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