Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Steven Saner

Garry wrote:

Richey wrote:

is buggy for whatever it is they are trying to do. They contacted their
rep  and the rep said Cisco wants them to pay for the last 5 years of
smartnet plus however many going forward  in order to get the image.  They
were quoted over $25k just to upgrade an image.   The part that sounds fishy
is being forced to pay for 5 years of smartnet.   Does this sound right?
  

Apart from the fact that I've had several occasions where there weren't
any complaints about getting SMARTnet for older gear (and the serial was
sent in when ordering, so $C knew it was older and off of SN for a
while) - If what you're after is the IOS update, and you're being quotet
for the time in between, why not go software-only SMARTnet? It even
contains config/TAC support (if ever required), full access to the
download area, and it's something like half of the regular SNT ... plus,
there's no logical reason to require a re-cert, as your hardware itself
isn't covered ...


Is this really available? I was asking a SmartNet rep about this once and was 
led to believe this isn't an option. Maybe it wasn't then and is now? Maybe they 
were pulling my leg?


Steve

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[c-nsp] Help with understanding AS5400

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Saykao
Hey All,
 
I'm new to all this voice stuff...
 
We've just installed a AS5400 and plugged the PRI's in but I'm not
seeing the interfaces below show up in the config. 
 
Eg: 
interface Serial6/0:15
interface Serial6/1:15
interface Serial6/2:15
interface Serial6/3:15

The Carrier is seeing alarms on their end so it could be that the PRI's
aren't properly activated yet. But regardless of this, am I suppose to
see those serial interfaces present in the config irrespective of
whether the PRIs are up or not?
 
When I try to manually add in the interface, it's not recognized.
 
as1-ks(config)#interface serial 6/0:15?
% Unrecognized command

Some more details about the AS...
 
as1-ks#sh ver
Cisco IOS Software, 5400 Software (C5400-IS-M), Version 12.4(11)T,
RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2006 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Sun 19-Nov-06 00:33 by prod_rel_team
 
ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.1(2r)XD1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
BOOTLDR: 5400 Software (C5400-BOOT-M), Version 12.1(5)T5,  RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)
 
as1-ks-mel uptime is 40 minutes
System returned to ROM by reload at 15:53:14 AEST Tue Sep 29 2009
System restarted at 15:54:03 AEST Tue Sep 29 2009
System image file is flash:c5400-is-mz.124-11.T.bin
 
Cisco AS5400 (R7K) processor (revision T) with 262144K/65536K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID JAB042904CY
R7000 CPU at 250MHz, Implementation 39, Rev 1.0, 256KB L2, 2048KB L3
Cache
Last reset from IOS reload
Manufacture Cookie Info:
 EEPROM Type 0x0001, EEPROM Version 0x01, Board ID 0x31,
 Board Hardware Version 3.27, Item Number 800-5171-01,
 Board Revision B0, Serial Number JAB042904CY,
 PLD/ISP Version 2.2,  Manufacture Date 11-Jul-2000.
Processor 0x14, MAC Address 0001.42b3.5b7e
Backplane HW Revision 1.0, Flash Type 5V
2 FastEthernet interfaces
10 Serial interfaces
216 terminal lines
16 Channelized E1/PRI ports
512K bytes of NVRAM.
32768K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
8192K bytes of processor board Boot flash (Read/Write)
 
Configuration register is 0x2102

as1-ks#sh controllers e1 6/2
E1 6/2 is down.
  Applique type is Channelized E1 - balanced
  Far End Block Errors Detected
  Receiver has loss of signal.
  alarm-trigger is not set
  Version info of slot 6:  HW: 768, PLD Rev: 1
  Framer Version: 0x8

 
Thanks.
 
Andy

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Re: [c-nsp] Pile on the 6509 noob

2009-09-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 12:07:58 am Geoffrey Pendery 
wrote:

 If OC3 or bigger, 7206VXR's have worked great for us. 

Doubt there's anything larger than an OC-3 supported on the 
7200-VXR these days. IIRC, the OC-12 was discontinued a 
while back. But then again, Gig-E can be considered a WAN 
technology these days too :-).

 Pretty much all of these options will be cheaper, more
 robust, and better supported than FlexWAN,...

There's the SIP carrier cards now that probably offer better 
support than the FlexWAN, but have the price tag to prove it 
:-).

Cheers,

Mark.
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Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Re Steven,

ssa...@pantheranet.com (Steven Saner) wrote:

 for the time in between, why not go software-only SMARTnet? It even
 contains config/TAC support (if ever required), full access to the
 download area, and it's something like half of the regular SNT ... plus,
 there's no logical reason to require a re-cert, as your hardware itself
 isn't covered ...
 
 Is this really available? I was asking a SmartNet rep about this once and 
 was led to believe this isn't an option. Maybe it wasn't then and is now? 
 Maybe they were pulling my leg?

As usual, with our last Cisco order I though asking can't hurt and did.
This is the first time our distributor offered us such a thing and at a
very good price (even if you have to buy three contracts for a smallish
ASR1002).

So yes, it seems to exist.

Elmar.
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Re: [c-nsp] So when is IPv6 failover coming to the ASA?

2009-09-29 Thread Joerg Mayer
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 01:02:26PM -0500, Brandon Ewing wrote:
 8.2 introduces dual-service-object-group mode -- meaning you can define a
 service group WITHOUT the protocol specifiction at the end, and define
 protocls on a per-service basis:

 object-group service TEST
  service-object tcp-udp eq domain
  service-object tcp eq www
  service-object icmp echo

And this feature is present in 8.0.x already, just not documented and
not helped via '?' on the command line. asdm already uses it.

Ciao
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Re: [c-nsp] Help with understanding AS5400

2009-09-29 Thread McDonald Richards
You need to tell the E1 controller it's to be used as a PRI and what
timeslots ie:

contr e1 6/0
 pri-group timeslots 1-31

This will create serial interface 6/0:15 and allow you to configure ISDN
parameters. Don't forget to set your framing on the controller either.

Macca


On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Andy Saykao 
andy.say...@staff.netspace.net.au wrote:

 Hey All,

 I'm new to all this voice stuff...

 We've just installed a AS5400 and plugged the PRI's in but I'm not
 seeing the interfaces below show up in the config.

 Eg:
 interface Serial6/0:15
 interface Serial6/1:15
 interface Serial6/2:15
 interface Serial6/3:15

 The Carrier is seeing alarms on their end so it could be that the PRI's
 aren't properly activated yet. But regardless of this, am I suppose to
 see those serial interfaces present in the config irrespective of
 whether the PRIs are up or not?

 When I try to manually add in the interface, it's not recognized.

 as1-ks(config)#interface serial 6/0:15?
 % Unrecognized command

 Some more details about the AS...

 as1-ks#sh ver
 Cisco IOS Software, 5400 Software (C5400-IS-M), Version 12.4(11)T,
 RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
 Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
 Copyright (c) 1986-2006 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Sun 19-Nov-06 00:33 by prod_rel_team

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.1(2r)XD1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 BOOTLDR: 5400 Software (C5400-BOOT-M), Version 12.1(5)T5,  RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc1)

 as1-ks-mel uptime is 40 minutes
 System returned to ROM by reload at 15:53:14 AEST Tue Sep 29 2009
 System restarted at 15:54:03 AEST Tue Sep 29 2009
 System image file is flash:c5400-is-mz.124-11.T.bin

 Cisco AS5400 (R7K) processor (revision T) with 262144K/65536K bytes of
 memory.
 Processor board ID JAB042904CY
 R7000 CPU at 250MHz, Implementation 39, Rev 1.0, 256KB L2, 2048KB L3
 Cache
 Last reset from IOS reload
 Manufacture Cookie Info:
  EEPROM Type 0x0001, EEPROM Version 0x01, Board ID 0x31,
  Board Hardware Version 3.27, Item Number 800-5171-01,
  Board Revision B0, Serial Number JAB042904CY,
  PLD/ISP Version 2.2,  Manufacture Date 11-Jul-2000.
 Processor 0x14, MAC Address 0001.42b3.5b7e
 Backplane HW Revision 1.0, Flash Type 5V
 2 FastEthernet interfaces
 10 Serial interfaces
 216 terminal lines
 16 Channelized E1/PRI ports
 512K bytes of NVRAM.
 32768K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
 8192K bytes of processor board Boot flash (Read/Write)

 Configuration register is 0x2102

 as1-ks#sh controllers e1 6/2
 E1 6/2 is down.
  Applique type is Channelized E1 - balanced
  Far End Block Errors Detected
  Receiver has loss of signal.
  alarm-trigger is not set
  Version info of slot 6:  HW: 768, PLD Rev: 1
  Framer Version: 0x8


 Thanks.

 Andy

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[c-nsp] Maybe Off.topic... VoIP wholesale carriers or just for south america

2009-09-29 Thread luismi
Hi,

This an off-topic issue, sorry about it.
I would like to know if you know some VoIP wholesale carriers or just
for south america.
Something like flowroute.com

Thanks in advance and sorry by this email again.

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Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:56:26AM -0500, Steven Saner wrote:
 Is this really available? I was asking a SmartNet rep about this once and 
 was led to believe this isn't an option. Maybe it wasn't then and is now? 
 Maybe they were pulling my leg?

It does exist, CON-SW-..., but not listed in the GPL. When poking your
sales rep enough, they admit. :)

For pricing, see SP-SW-..., it's all the same as CON- (at least for all
products I checked, being various Catalyst and ASR1K parts). In fact,
the SP-SW- contract line brought me to CON-SW- when we asked for SP-SW-
offer and got told that SP- ain't sold in Europe, but there is
equivalent CON-SW- too... :)

Best regards,
Daniel

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[c-nsp] Bell Canada - Old Bogon?

2009-09-29 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Hey guys,

Could someone from Bell Canada who can deal with an old Bogon issue please 
contact me off list.

It is re: 180.x.x.x

...Skeeve

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Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Will Hargrave
Steven Saner wrote:

 Is this really available? I was asking a SmartNet rep about this once
 and was led to believe this isn't an option. Maybe it wasn't then and is
 now? Maybe they were pulling my leg?

'SASU' - Software Application Support plus Upgrades

But last time I priced it up I got the same price for that as 8x5xNBD
hardware support, which was disappointing.

OP could go to a third party for support rather than Cisco, which should
reduce the cost yet still allow legitimate access to newer IOS.
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Re: [c-nsp] Bell Canada - Old Bogon?

2009-09-29 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Why did I send this to cisco-nsp and not NANOG? Doh... sorry all.

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 Hey guys,
 
 Could someone from Bell Canada who can deal with an old Bogon issue
 please contact me off list.
 
 It is re: 180.x.x.x
 
 ...Skeeve
 
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Re: [c-nsp] ipv6 traffic layer2-switched netflow data export on c65k

2009-09-29 Thread Nick Hilliard

On 05/07/2009 16:51, Nick Hilliard wrote:

Is there anyone out there who has managed to get layer2 netflow data
export working for l2 switched ipv6 traffic on a c65k? I've been beating
my head against a wall trying to get it to work and just can't seem to.


hmmm, known limitation, it appears:


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7600/ios/12.2SR/configuration/guide/nde.html#wp1171043


which reads:


•The following IPv4 Netflow and NDE options are not available for IPv6 flows: 
[CSCek55571]

•Aggregation support (ip flow-aggregation cache command)

•Export of Layer 2 switched IPv6 flows

•Netflow and NDE sampling

•NDE filter support


While this documentation is for SR, the same limitation apparently applies 
to SX.  An internal documentation bug has been raised to get the 
limitations put into the SX train documentation, which doesn't currently 
note the problem:



http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/configuration/guide/nde.html


Nick
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[c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread jack daniels
 Dear group,

Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR
Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy,
Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR

Regards
J.Daniels
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Jay Nakamura
Is there an 8 port FE card?  There is an 8 port 10BT card but I don't
know that there is an 8 port FE card...

This may help.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7200/configuration/7200_port_adapter_config_guidelines/3875In.html

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:46 AM, jack daniels jckdaniel...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear group,

 Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR
 Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy,
 Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR

 Regards
 J.Daniels
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Antonio Soares
Here's the document you need:

Cisco 7200 Bandwidth Points

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps341/prod_presentation_list.html

To add 8 FastEthernet Ports, you will need 4 * PA-2FE-TX. The NPE-G1 has 3 
built-in GE interfaces.


Regards,

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amsoa...@netcabo.pt

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Subject: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router


 Dear group,

Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR Router 
and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy,
Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR

Regards
J.Daniels
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Dean Smith

Available port adaptors
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/modules/ps2033/ps2546/index.html

Bandwidth points.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7200/configuration/7200_port_adapter_config_guidelines/3875In.html#wp1053970


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Subject: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router



Dear group,

Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR
Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy,
Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR

Regards
J.Daniels
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Rens
I don't think any PA's exist with 8 FastE ports, only 8 Ethernet

-Original Message-
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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of jack daniels
Sent: mardi 29 septembre 2009 13:46
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

 Dear group,

Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR
Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy,
Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR

Regards
J.Daniels
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Re: [c-nsp] Another bughunt, this time VRF PBR

2009-09-29 Thread David Freedman
I can only now laugh at 12.4(24)T1 ,

*Sep 29 14:05:08.219: VT[Vi3]:Applying config commands on process
VTEMPLATE Background Mgr (187)
*Sep 29 14:05:08.219: VT[Vi3]:ip vrf receive TEST
*Sep 29 14:05:08.219: VT[Vi3]:no ip redirects
*Sep 29 14:05:08.219: VT[Vi3]:no ip unreachables
*Sep 29 14:05:08.223: VT[Vi3]:ip policy route-map TEST
*Sep 29 14:05:08.223: VT[Vi3]:no logging event link-status
*Sep 29 14:05:08.223: VT[Vi3]:no snmp trap link-status
*Sep 29 14:05:08.223: VT[Vi3]:end
*Sep 29 14:05:08.235: VT:Messages from (un)cloning Vi3:
% Need to enable Policy Based Routing on the interface first

completely ignoring the order I specified in radius (pbr first, vrf
receive second).

So that is three distinct bugs now, all in the latest releases. Shame.

Dave.


David Freedman wrote:
 Hah, SRD2a is even odder, refuses to even install the per-user vrf static!
 
 This has however enabled me to home in on CSCsu33006 which sounds more
 likely, but it claims to be fixed in SRC4 and SRD which is annoying.
 
 Dave.
 
 
 David Freedman wrote:
 Have just tried with another live box running SRD (the original SRD) -
 exactly the same story.

 Does anybody know if this is supported or not? I'm not seeing any
 documentation which suggests it is not.

 David.

 David Freedman wrote:
 Yes, I woul absolutely love to, believe me :)
 Need to make sure nobody steps in at this point and claims that this is 
 unsupported, if it is then am happy
 to move it to SR and away from 12.4(T) completely.

 
 David Freedman
 Group Network Engineering 
 Claranet Limited
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 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Shore [mailto:jus...@justinshore.com]
 Sent: Mon 9/28/2009 04:06
 To: David Freedman
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Another bughunt, this time VRF PBR
  
 David Freedman wrote:
 wonder if anybody has come across this before,

 in 12.4(15)T, configuring a virtual-access per-user such:
 I hate to suggest the obvious but since there are so many bugs in 
 12.4(15)T have you considered bumping that to the latest minor rev?  I 
 think they're up to T7 or T8 now (must have been some bug list).

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Detter Werner
Hi,

 Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR
 Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy,
 Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR

There is no 8-port Fast-Ethernet-Card for the 7206VXR, probably you mean
an 8-port Ethernet-Card (PA-8E) instead?

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7200/configuration/7200_port_adapter_config_guidelines/3875In.html#wp1061974

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread jack daniels
Hi ,

I'm a bit confused on -
Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that
you can use them at full speed..

Regards



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 On 29/09/2009 13:03, Antonio Soares wrote:
  Here's the document you need:
 
  Cisco 7200 Bandwidth Points
 
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps341/prod_presentation_list.html
 
  To add 8 FastEthernet Ports, you will need 4 * PA-2FE-TX. The NPE-G1 has
 3 built-in GE interfaces.
 
 Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that
 you can use them at full speed...

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Jon Lewis

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, jack daniels wrote:


I'm a bit confused on -
Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that
you can use them at full speed..


A common issue with routers is that they have interfaces the processors 
can't keep up with.  i.e. a 2621 router has two built in 100baseT 
interfaces.  Try routing 100mbit/s of traffic through a 2621, and you'll 
be disappointed.


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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Marko Milivojevic
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 13:13, jack daniels jckdaniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm a bit confused on -
 Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that
 you can use them at full speed..

NPE-G1 can't really pass more that 300-400 Mb/s of traffic without
experiencing serious CPU load.

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Howard Jones
On 29/09/2009 13:03, Antonio Soares wrote:
 Here's the document you need:

 Cisco 7200 Bandwidth Points

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps341/prod_presentation_list.html

 To add 8 FastEthernet Ports, you will need 4 * PA-2FE-TX. The NPE-G1 has 3 
 built-in GE interfaces.
   
Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that
you can use them at full speed...
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Detter Werner
Hi Jack,

you can't add eight 100Mbit-Interfaces additionally. The NPE-G1 has 3 build-in
Gbit-Ports, the 7206VXR chassis is able to handle 6 additional Cards.

One 100MBit FE-Card (PA-FE-TX/FX) allocates 200 Bandwith Points, a 2-Port
FE-Card (PA-2FE-TX/FX) allocates 400 BW-Points.

So, you probably have to buy four PA-2FE-TX/FX-Cards (if you cannot use
the build-in Gbit-Ports for your purposes *or* if you can use them buy
5 PA-FE-TX/FX-Cards :-)

Bye,
Werner

jack daniels schrieb:
 Hi ,
 
 I'm a bit confused on -
 Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that
 you can use them at full speed..
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Howard Jones ho...@thingy.com wrote:
 
 On 29/09/2009 13:03, Antonio Soares wrote:
 Here's the document you need:

 Cisco 7200 Bandwidth Points


 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps341/prod_presentation_list.html
 To add 8 FastEthernet Ports, you will need 4 * PA-2FE-TX. The NPE-G1 has
 3 built-in GE interfaces.
 Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Detter Werner
Hi again,

 So, you probably have to buy four PA-2FE-TX/FX-Cards (if you cannot use
 the build-in Gbit-Ports for your purposes *or* if you can use them buy
 5 PA-FE-TX/FX-Cards :-)

Sorry, little mistake here: with four PA-2FE-Cards you'd exhaust the
Bandwith-Points.

For each PCI-Bus you can stick in 1xPA2-FE and 1xPA-FE then the maximum
for the PCI-Bus is reached (600 BP).

Bye,
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Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Justin Shore

Steven Saner wrote:
Is this really available? I was asking a SmartNet rep about this once 
and was led to believe this isn't an option. Maybe it wasn't then and is 
now? Maybe they were pulling my leg?


Sure.  For a 7206VXR the part number is SP-SW-7206VXRN.  However I don't 
generally recommend people buy it.  The software-only version doesn't 
come with any sort of hardware replacement.  For a wee bit more you can 
get the RTF SmartNet (SP-RR-7206VXRN).  That's Return To Factory 10-day 
turn around service.  That's what you should get if you're implementing 
a sparing strategy.  List on the SP-SW for a 7206VXR is $2688.  List on 
the SP-RR is only $2895.  So for a 7.7% increase in costs you can get a 
hardware replacement option.  8x5xNBD adds another $400 to the cost. 
24x7x4 is nearly double the SP-SW option.


The only time SP-SW makes sense is if you have an extremely large 
network and decent sparing strategy, where having a 1% hardware failure 
rate and eating the cost of the failed router (to replace it with a 
spare) costs you less than SP-RR coverage on all devices.  It's also 
good if you have a huge inventory of spares for a given model to back 
you up in case the covered unit shoots craps on you.


Personally I've taken my SP down the path of buying RTF coverage for 
everything that has a backup (hot or cold) and then putting either 
8x5xNBD (AR1) or 24x7x4 (AR3) on the devices that I don't have a good 
backup for.  The money saved was put towards buying more spares.  The 
collection of spares also gives me a lab to work in.  With those spares 
I can have a failed device replaced in an hour or two vs a minimum of 4 
hours plus however long it takes for TAC to decide that a RMA is needed.


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[c-nsp] Abnormal CPU usage on a G1 engine

2009-09-29 Thread Jimmy Hodges

Team,
   I have a G1 engine in a Cisco 7206VXR and another G1 engine in a 
7246VXR that are both showing almost 50% CPU usage on a network that 
only has 358 cable modems. I have other networks with over 3000 modems 
that don't create more than 25% CPU usage on their G1 engines. Everytime 
I check the show proc cpu output, it never shows any system processes 
consuming more than 5% of the CPU. Is there a process that I could be 
missing that is overworking both my G1 engines? Why is such a small 
network that passes 15 Mbps of traffic causing the CPU to work so hard? 
Any insight will be appreciated. Thanks again.


_*7206VXR GW:
*_Cisco IOS Software, 7200 Software (C7200-IPBASEK9-M), Version 
12.4(22)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
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Compiled Fri 10-Oct-08 10:10 by prod_rel_team

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(4r)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
BOOTLDR: 7200 Software (C7200-KBOOT-M), Version 12.3(15), RELEASE 
SOFTWARE (fc3)


Demopolis_GW uptime is 5 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 30 minutes
System returned to ROM by reload at 15:26:06 UTC Wed Aug 19 2009
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Cisco 7206VXR (NPE-G1) processor (revision B) with 983040K/65536K bytes 
of memory.

Processor board ID 21302151
SB-1 CPU at 700MHz, Implementation 1025, Rev 0.2, 512KB L2 Cache
6 slot VXR midplane, Version 2.1

Last reset from power-on

PCI bus mb1 (Slots 1, 3 and 5) has a capacity of 600 bandwidth points.
Current configuration on bus mb1 has a total of 400 bandwidth points.
This configuration is within the PCI bus capacity and is supported.

PCI bus mb2 (Slots 2, 4 and 6) has a capacity of 600 bandwidth points.
Current configuration on bus mb2 has a total of 400 bandwidth points.
This configuration is within the PCI bus capacity and is supported.

Please refer to the following document Cisco 7200 Series Port Adaptor
Hardware Configuration Guidelines on Cisco.com http://www.cisco.com
for c7200 bandwidth points oversubscription and usage guidelines.


4 FastEthernet interfaces
3 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
509K bytes of NVRAM.

500472K bytes of ATA PCMCIA card at slot 2 (Sector size 512 bytes).
16384K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
Configuration register is 0x2102
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Re: [c-nsp] Abnormal CPU usage on a G1 engine

2009-09-29 Thread Paul Stewart
One thing I noticed is your T train release - there are MD (think that's the
new term) of software releases for the G1 engine.  I'd suggest looking at a
new IOS to see if that helps.

Also, there could be several configuration items that are causing this
can you post a sanitized config?

Paul


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From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jimmy Hodges
Sent: September 29, 2009 10:33 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Cc: Tim Smith; dbert...@zcorum.com
Subject: [c-nsp] Abnormal CPU usage on a G1 engine

Team,
I have a G1 engine in a Cisco 7206VXR and another G1 engine in a 
7246VXR that are both showing almost 50% CPU usage on a network that 
only has 358 cable modems. I have other networks with over 3000 modems 
that don't create more than 25% CPU usage on their G1 engines. Everytime 
I check the show proc cpu output, it never shows any system processes 
consuming more than 5% of the CPU. Is there a process that I could be 
missing that is overworking both my G1 engines? Why is such a small 
network that passes 15 Mbps of traffic causing the CPU to work so hard? 
Any insight will be appreciated. Thanks again.

_*7206VXR GW:
*_Cisco IOS Software, 7200 Software (C7200-IPBASEK9-M), Version 
12.4(22)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 10-Oct-08 10:10 by prod_rel_team

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(4r)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
BOOTLDR: 7200 Software (C7200-KBOOT-M), Version 12.3(15), RELEASE 
SOFTWARE (fc3)

Demopolis_GW uptime is 5 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 30 minutes
System returned to ROM by reload at 15:26:06 UTC Wed Aug 19 2009
System restarted at 10:28:39 CST Wed Aug 19 2009
System image file is disk2:c7200-ipbasek9-mz.124-22.T.bin
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of memory.
Processor board ID 21302151
SB-1 CPU at 700MHz, Implementation 1025, Rev 0.2, 512KB L2 Cache
6 slot VXR midplane, Version 2.1

Last reset from power-on

PCI bus mb1 (Slots 1, 3 and 5) has a capacity of 600 bandwidth points.
Current configuration on bus mb1 has a total of 400 bandwidth points.
This configuration is within the PCI bus capacity and is supported.

PCI bus mb2 (Slots 2, 4 and 6) has a capacity of 600 bandwidth points.
Current configuration on bus mb2 has a total of 400 bandwidth points.
This configuration is within the PCI bus capacity and is supported.

Please refer to the following document Cisco 7200 Series Port Adaptor
Hardware Configuration Guidelines on Cisco.com http://www.cisco.com
for c7200 bandwidth points oversubscription and usage guidelines.


4 FastEthernet interfaces
3 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
509K bytes of NVRAM.

500472K bytes of ATA PCMCIA card at slot 2 (Sector size 512 bytes).
16384K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
Configuration register is 0x2102
--
08:59:05 AM Tuesday Sep 29 2009 CST



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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Jay Hennigan

Detter Werner wrote:

Hi Jack,

you can't add eight 100Mbit-Interfaces additionally. The NPE-G1 has 3 build-in
Gbit-Ports, the 7206VXR chassis is able to handle 6 additional Cards.

One 100MBit FE-Card (PA-FE-TX/FX) allocates 200 Bandwith Points, a 2-Port
FE-Card (PA-2FE-TX/FX) allocates 400 BW-Points.

So, you probably have to buy four PA-2FE-TX/FX-Cards (if you cannot use
the build-in Gbit-Ports for your purposes *or* if you can use them buy
5 PA-FE-TX/FX-Cards :-)


I would buy a switch with at least one Gbit port and eight FE ports and 
trunk to VLANs.


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Re: [c-nsp] Abnormal CPU usage on a G1 engine

2009-09-29 Thread Jimmy Hodges

Paul Stewart wrote:

One thing I noticed is your T train release - there are MD (think that's the
new term) of software releases for the G1 engine.  I'd suggest looking at a
new IOS to see if that helps.

Also, there could be several configuration items that are causing this
can you post a sanitized config?

Paul


-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jimmy Hodges
Sent: September 29, 2009 10:33 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Cc: Tim Smith; dbert...@zcorum.com
Subject: [c-nsp] Abnormal CPU usage on a G1 engine

Team,
I have a G1 engine in a Cisco 7206VXR and another G1 engine in a 
7246VXR that are both showing almost 50% CPU usage on a network that 
only has 358 cable modems. I have other networks with over 3000 modems 
that don't create more than 25% CPU usage on their G1 engines. Everytime 
I check the show proc cpu output, it never shows any system processes 
consuming more than 5% of the CPU. Is there a process that I could be 
missing that is overworking both my G1 engines? Why is such a small 
network that passes 15 Mbps of traffic causing the CPU to work so hard? 
Any insight will be appreciated. Thanks again.


_*7206VXR GW:
*_Cisco IOS Software, 7200 Software (C7200-IPBASEK9-M), Version 
12.4(22)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 10-Oct-08 10:10 by prod_rel_team

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(4r)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
BOOTLDR: 7200 Software (C7200-KBOOT-M), Version 12.3(15), RELEASE 
SOFTWARE (fc3)


Demopolis_GW uptime is 5 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 30 minutes
System returned to ROM by reload at 15:26:06 UTC Wed Aug 19 2009
System restarted at 10:28:39 CST Wed Aug 19 2009
System image file is disk2:c7200-ipbasek9-mz.124-22.T.bin
Last reload reason: Reload Command



This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United
States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and
use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply
third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption.
Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for
compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you
agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable
to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.

A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be 
found at:

http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html

If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to
exp...@cisco.com.

Cisco 7206VXR (NPE-G1) processor (revision B) with 983040K/65536K bytes 
of memory.

Processor board ID 21302151
SB-1 CPU at 700MHz, Implementation 1025, Rev 0.2, 512KB L2 Cache
6 slot VXR midplane, Version 2.1

Last reset from power-on

PCI bus mb1 (Slots 1, 3 and 5) has a capacity of 600 bandwidth points.
Current configuration on bus mb1 has a total of 400 bandwidth points.
This configuration is within the PCI bus capacity and is supported.

PCI bus mb2 (Slots 2, 4 and 6) has a capacity of 600 bandwidth points.
Current configuration on bus mb2 has a total of 400 bandwidth points.
This configuration is within the PCI bus capacity and is supported.

Please refer to the following document Cisco 7200 Series Port Adaptor
Hardware Configuration Guidelines on Cisco.com http://www.cisco.com
for c7200 bandwidth points oversubscription and usage guidelines.


4 FastEthernet interfaces
3 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
509K bytes of NVRAM.

500472K bytes of ATA PCMCIA card at slot 2 (Sector size 512 bytes).
16384K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
Configuration register is 0x2102
--
08:59:05 AM Tuesday Sep 29 2009 CST



44333633
100
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 80
 70
 60
 50
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[c-nsp] Direct traffic from a tunnel to another tunnel

2009-09-29 Thread JA Colmenares

CISCO Pix 506e 6.x
Cisco Pix 515   6.x
Location A
Location B
Main Office



I have the following
                                                 MAIN OFFICE*
                                                   INternet router
                                                             |
                                                    Border Switch
                                                      |                   |
 Location A-ASA---Pix 506  Pix 
515---Location B-ASA
                                                         |                |
                                                      LAN-SWITCH(Layer 2 only)
                                                               |
                                                       LAN servers/Clients


There is a L2L tunnel from the 515 Pix (Main office) to another Pix in Location 
B.

There is another L2L tunnel from Location A to Main Office in the 506e. My 
question is:

how do I route the traffic from 506 Tunnel from Location A to 515 Tunnel 
tocation B without adding any other device or hardware? 

What commands/settings would I need to modify in the 506 and the 515 to make 
this possible?

Thanks

John


  
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jon Lewis wrote:
 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, jack daniels wrote:
 
 I'm a bit confused on -
 Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that
 you can use them at full speed..
 
 A common issue with routers is that they have interfaces the processors
 can't keep up with.  i.e. a 2621 router has two built in 100baseT
 interfaces.  Try routing 100mbit/s of traffic through a 2621, and you'll
 be disappointed.
 

2801 and 2811 have 10/100 ports, the 2821 has 1000/100/10 ports. Same
principle still applies though. ;)

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 09:29:54AM -0500, Justin Shore wrote:
 Sure.  For a 7206VXR the part number is SP-SW-7206VXRN.  However I don't 
 generally recommend people buy it.  The software-only version doesn't 
 come with any sort of hardware replacement.  For a wee bit more you can 
 get the RTF SmartNet (SP-RR-7206VXRN).  That's Return To Factory 10-day 

How do people get these part numbers?  For our smartnet contracts, getting
the right numbers for various 6500+sup720 combinations seems to be nearly
impossible.

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Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread e ninja
Richey,

No it is not right.

   1. Anybody that has paid for software, should *never* have to pay for bug
   fixes. See http://resources.multiven.com/dossier-3
   2. Forcing people to pay for a service they haven't used is
extortionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion- a criminal act -
seek legal counsel

Bad things will continue to happen until good people take action. See what
happened when people protested about the inefficient download tool? It got
fixed.

Furthermore, there are alternatives to manufacturer network maintenance
services - a google search will reveal options.

We live in a free world, let's start acting as such.

Eninja :)



On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Richey myli...@battleop.com wrote:

 One of my customers called me today to ask me if this sounds right.  I
 don't
 much about smartnet but I told him I knew where to ask about this.He
 said they let their initial smartnet contract expire about 5 years ago
 because they never used the support and management couldn't justify the
 cost.Now they need a newer image because the current one they are using
 is buggy for whatever it is they are trying to do. They contacted their
 rep  and the rep said Cisco wants them to pay for the last 5 years of
 smartnet plus however many going forward  in order to get the image.  They
 were quoted over $25k just to upgrade an image.   The part that sounds
 fishy
 is being forced to pay for 5 years of smartnet.   Does this sound right?



 Richey

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Scott Granados

:)


A common issue with routers is that they have interfaces the processors
can't keep up with.  i.e. a 2621 router has two built in 100baseT


Better worded, a common issue with vendor C is that they have processors 
that the interfaces can't keep up with.  Other vendors including one that 
starts with a J have fewer issues in this area.;)


- Original Message - 
From: Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us

To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router



Jon Lewis wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, jack daniels wrote:


I'm a bit confused on -
Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that
you can use them at full speed..


A common issue with routers is that they have interfaces the processors
can't keep up with.  i.e. a 2621 router has two built in 100baseT
interfaces.  Try routing 100mbit/s of traffic through a 2621, and you'll
be disappointed.



2801 and 2811 have 10/100 ports, the 2821 has 1000/100/10 ports. Same
principle still applies though. ;)

~Seth
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[c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'

2009-09-29 Thread Dave Weis


We want to provide a hosted/managed firewall service for our MPLS 
customers. Is a pair of ASA's with multiple contexts the best way to do 
this or would something else work better? I'm not concerned with the 
customers being able to make changes themselves.


Thanks
dave




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Re: [c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'

2009-09-29 Thread ChrisSerafin

I also believe you can do this with Junipers and Checkpoint VSX boxes


Dave Weis wrote:


We want to provide a hosted/managed firewall service for our MPLS 
customers. Is a pair of ASA's with multiple contexts the best way to 
do this or would something else work better? I'm not concerned with 
the customers being able to make changes themselves.


Thanks
dave







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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Jay Hennigan

Scott Granados wrote:

Better worded, a common issue with vendor C is that they have processors 
that the interfaces can't keep up with.  Other vendors including one 
that starts with a J have fewer issues in this area.;)


I think you have it bass-ackwards.  There are interfaces that the 
processors can't keep up with.


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Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Justin Shore

Gert Doering wrote:

How do people get these part numbers?  For our smartnet contracts, getting
the right numbers for various 6500+sup720 combinations seems to be nearly
impossible.


Gert,

Two ways that I can think of.  The first is from the Global Price List 
on cisco.com:


https://tools.cisco.com/qtc/pricing/MainServlet

Or by way of the Dynamic Config Tool when you build a quote:

https://apps.cisco.com/qtc/config/jsp/configureHome.jsp

I'm assuming that all registered users have access to that information. 
 My CCO has several entitlements added to it so it's possible that 
other CCOs can't access the same data.  Your AM should be able to get 
the GPL added to your CCO though.


Justin


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Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Nick Hilliard

On 29/09/2009 19:20, e ninja wrote:

No it is not right.

1. Anybody that has paid for software, should *never* have to pay for bug
fixes. See http://resources.multiven.com/dossier-3


That is an interesting wish-list.  Have you considered what it would do to 
the price of software if vendors were made liable?  I can't imagine the 
insurance premiums, and the gratuitous law suits.  Worse still, open source 
would be killed by it.  I know that if I were to be held liable, I wouldn't 
ever release anything or contribute anything to open source software.



2. Forcing people to pay for a service they haven't used is
extortionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion- a criminal act -
seek legal counsel


Legal counsel would probably argue that if you left your support 
subscription lapse and then attempted to renew it several years later, that 
the reason for doing so was because of some failure outside the 
manufacturer's control, and that you were pulling a fast one.


I'm not a lawyer.  Are you?

Nick
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Re: [c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'

2009-09-29 Thread Alexander Clouter
Hi,

Dave Weis djw...@internetsolver.com wrote:
 
 We want to provide a hosted/managed firewall service for our MPLS 
 customers. Is a pair of ASA's with multiple contexts the best way to do 
 this or would something else work better? I'm not concerned with the 
 customers being able to make changes themselves.
 
No experience in actually doing this but I would say no.  :)

There is no (or it is so small I have missed it) sharing of object data 
between contexts and so you will find your self spending all your time 
trying to keep in sync the common parts of each context.

Instead you should apply simple RPF (if you do not have them already) 
rules so that all the IP traffic coming from your custom does come from 
their own allocated address space (prevent spoofing).

After you have done that, each customer can just be a raw IP range on 
whatever (single instance) firewall platform you wish to purchase making 
manglement of the whole thing just feel like a regular LAN.

Of course things get fun if you add multicast traffic and/or asymmetric 
routing :)

Cheers

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Scott Granados
You're right, I was trying to express that the interfaces were able to out 
perform / to fast for the processor.  I.E. the 2621 example someone listed 
earlier.



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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router



Scott Granados wrote:

Better worded, a common issue with vendor C is that they have processors 
that the interfaces can't keep up with.  Other vendors including one that 
starts with a J have fewer issues in this area.;)


I think you have it bass-ackwards.  There are interfaces that the 
processors can't keep up with.


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Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router

2009-09-29 Thread Aaron Seelye
Agreed, but I think he was pointing out the fact that it's not routers 
that have this problem, it's c-routers :).


-Aaron

Jay Hennigan wrote:

Scott Granados wrote:

Better worded, a common issue with vendor C is that they have 
processors that the interfaces can't keep up with.  Other vendors 
including one that starts with a J have fewer issues in this area.;)


I think you have it bass-ackwards.  There are interfaces that the 
processors can't keep up with.


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Re: [c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'

2009-09-29 Thread Dave Weis


On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Christopher Hunt wrote:
 As I painfully discovered, the Cisco ASA in Multiple Context mode does not 
support IPSEC VPN clients nor L2TP3 tunnels ( 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/asa/asa82/configuration/guide/ike.html 
), so choose your features carefully.  Eventually, we went with individual 
[sets of] firewalls for each customer.


That's a pretty big omission! Any ETA to add that capability?

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[c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'

2009-09-29 Thread Christopher Hunt

Dave,
  As I painfully discovered, the Cisco ASA in Multiple Context mode 
does not support IPSEC VPN clients nor L2TP3 tunnels ( 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/asa/asa82/configuration/guide/ike.html 
), so choose your features carefully.  Eventually, we went with 
individual [sets of] firewalls for each customer.


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To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'
Message-ID:
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We want to provide a hosted/managed firewall service for our MPLS 
customers. Is a pair of ASA's with multiple contexts the best way to do 
this or would something else work better? I'm not concerned with the 
customers being able to make changes themselves.


Thanks
dave




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Re: [c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'

2009-09-29 Thread Justin Shore

Dave Weis wrote:


We want to provide a hosted/managed firewall service for our MPLS 
customers. Is a pair of ASA's with multiple contexts the best way to do 
this or would something else work better? I'm not concerned with the 
customers being able to make changes themselves.


We do this with a pair of FWSMs in a pair of 7600s.  Customers in our 
data center reside in MPLS/VPNs.  The FWSMs upstream in the network are 
their ticket out of the MPLS/VPN and out to the Internet.  Each customer 
is in their own context.  Not too difficult.


We could have done this with ASAs but they do not scale as well.  If you 
want to start cheaply then yes you can use ASAs but research their 
limitations (especially, # of context and throughput vs price).  Also be 
sure that you understand that you can not use VPN on a ASA with multiple 
contexts.  If you need to terminate VPN services (L2L or client) and put 
them into isolated customer environments on the secured side of the 
network then you need to look into a router-based platform.


So you know, no Cisco firewalls are MPLS-aware; that includes the FWSM. 
 However you don't really need it since you only need to map VLANs to 
it.  The VLANs themselves can be in the necessary VRF, thus making that 
context partially in that VRF.  ie, VLAN 100 is in the 
privately-addressed customer VRF and is assigned to the context and used 
as the inside interface.  VLAN 200 is publicly-addressed, not in a 
defined VRF (default VRF or wherever you keep your public Internet at), 
is assigned to the context and is used as the outside interface.  The 
customer can manage their own context if they want but we don't yet have 
any that do this.  You could let customers bring their own FW if they 
want by mapping the inside and outside VLANs to switchports in your data 
center (one on the public side and one in the customer VRF) and letting 
the users use those.


Justin


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[c-nsp] OT: Router//Switches Hardware inventory

2009-09-29 Thread omar parihuana
Hello List,

Do you know an open source tool for router hardware inventory? I have many
Cisco devices with many cards inserted, and manage the inventory via Excel
Format is hard... please any suggestion?

Rgds.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Router//Switches Hardware inventory

2009-09-29 Thread Alan Buxey
Hi,

 Do you know an open source tool for router hardware inventory? I have many
 Cisco devices with many cards inserted, and manage the inventory via Excel
 Format is hard... please any suggestion?

RANCID is pretty good at pulling the details out. you can then 
look through the resulting files for eg serial numbers , part
numbers etc. beware - its command line stuff - though you can add
a webified system with a web based CVS tool, for example.

alan
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Router//Switches Hardware inventory

2009-09-29 Thread Nick Hilliard

On 29/09/2009 23:23, omar parihuana wrote:

Do you know an open source tool for router hardware inventory? I have many
Cisco devices with many cards inserted, and manage the inventory via Excel
Format is hard... please any suggestion?


RANCID (http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/) will manage version control for 
your router configurations, but at the top of each configuration file, it 
will also attempt to do a semi-intelligent internal inventory of the 
router, down to blade level.  The down-side is that the configuration is 
stored in unstructured text.


If you want something which gives structured text, use show inventory on 
your equipment.  The output of this command can be parsed, and if you're 
running rancid or something similar which allows scripted access to your 
kit, you can script this to provide structured lists of equipment.


Nick
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[c-nsp] moving to Zone Based Firewall

2009-09-29 Thread Leslie Meade
I have an 1811 with an old cfg on it. I  want to update it to use zone based 
rules. 
However the SDM is telling me that the legacy firewall is in place, and I need 
to remove them. 
I am a security and routing newbie. Can someone point me in the right direction 
? 
I have attached the relevant parts. I cannot shut the router down or remove it 
to work on it

!
version 12.4
no service pad
service tcp-keepalives-in
service tcp-keepalives-out
service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime show-timezone
service timestamps log datetime msec localtime show-timezone
service password-encryption
service sequence-numbers
!
hostname 
!
boot-start-marker
boot system flash:c181x-advipservicesk9-mz.124-15.T7.bin
boot-end-marker
!
security authentication failure rate 3 log
security passwords min-length 6
logging buffered 52000

!
aaa new-model
!
!
aaa authentication login local_authen local
aaa authorization exec local_author local 
!
!
aaa session-id common
clock timezone PST -8
clock summer-time PST recurring
!
crypto pki trustpoint TP-self-signed-1717698609
 enrollment selfsigned
 subject-name cn=IOS-Self-Signed-Certificate-1717698609
 revocation-check none
 rsakeypair TP-self-signed-1717698609
!
!
crypto pki certificate chain TP-self-signed-1717698609
 certificate self-signed 01 nvram:IOS-Self-Sig#2.cer
dot11 syslog
no ip source-route
!
!
ip cef
no ip dhcp use vrf connected


!
!
no ip bootp server
ip domain name mgvfs.mcleannet

ip inspect log drop-pkt
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM dns
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM ftp
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM h323
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM icmp
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM imap reset
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM pop3 reset
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM realaudio
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM esmtp
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM sqlnet
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM tftp
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM tcp
ip inspect name SDM_MEDIUM udp
ip ips notify SDEE
ip ips name sdm_ips_rule
!
multilink bundle-name authenticated
!
key chain EIGRP_KEY
 key 1
   key-string 7 
!
!
!
spanning-tree portfast bpduguard
spanning-tree vlan 1 priority 8192
no spanning-tree vlan 1
spanning-tree vlan 2 priority 8192
no spanning-tree vlan 2
spanning-tree vlan 3 priority 8192
no spanning-tree vlan 3

! 
!
crypto isakmp policy 2
 encr aes
 authentication pre-share
 group 2
crypto isakmp key showmethe$ address 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
crypto isakmp keepalive 3600
!
!
crypto ipsec transform-set DMVPN esp-aes esp-sha-hmac 
 mode transport
!
crypto ipsec profile SDM_Profile1
 set transform-set DMVPN 
!
!
archive
 log config
  hidekeys
!
!
ip tcp synwait-time 10
ip ssh version 2
!
class-map match-any AutoQoS-VoIP-Remark
 match ip dscp ef 
 match ip dscp cs3 
 match ip dscp af31 
class-map match-any AutoQoS-VoIP-Control-UnTrust
 match access-group name AutoQoS-VoIP-Control
class-map match-any AutoQoS-VoIP-RTP-UnTrust
 match protocol rtp audio 
 match access-group name AutoQoS-VoIP-RTCP
 match ip dscp ef 
!
!
policy-map AutoQoS-Policy-UnTrust
 class AutoQoS-VoIP-RTP-UnTrust
  priority percent 70
  set dscp ef
 class AutoQoS-VoIP-Control-UnTrust
  bandwidth percent 5
  set dscp af31
 class AutoQoS-VoIP-Remark
  set dscp default
 class class-default
  fair-queue
!
!
!
!
interface Tunnel0
 bandwidth 1000
 ip address 
 no ip redirects
 ip mtu 1400
 ip flow ingress
 ip flow egress
 ip authentication mode eigrp 50 md5
 ip authentication key-chain eigrp 50 EIGRP_KEY
 ip nhrp authentication DMVPN_NW
 ip nhrp map 
 ip nhrp map multicast 
 ip nhrp network-id 10
 ip nhrp holdtime 360
 ip nhrp nhs 
 ip virtual-reassembly
 ip tcp adjust-mss 1360
 ip summary-address eigrp 50 
 delay 1000
 qos pre-classify
 tunnel source FastEthernet0
 tunnel mode gre multipoint
 tunnel key 10
 tunnel protection ipsec profile SDM_Profile1
!
interface Null0
 no ip unreachables
!
interface FastEthernet0
 description $FW_OUTSIDE$
 ip address dhcp
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip nbar protocol-discovery
 ip inspect SDM_MEDIUM out
 ip ips sdm_ips_rule in
 ip virtual-reassembly
 ip route-cache flow
 duplex auto
 speed auto
 max-reserved-bandwidth 100
!
interface FastEthernet1
 ip address dhcp
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip nat outside
 ip virtual-reassembly
 ip route-cache flow
 duplex auto
 speed auto
!
interface FastEthernet2
!
interface FastEthernet3
!
interface FastEthernet4
!
interface FastEthernet5
!
interface FastEthernet6
!
interface FastEthernet7
!
interface FastEthernet8
!
interface FastEthernet9
 description trunk to switch
 switchport mode trunk
!
interface Vlan1
 ip address 
 ip access-group 100 in
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip nat inside
 ip virtual-reassembly
 ip route-cache flow
 ip tcp adjust-mss 1360
!
interface Vlan2
 ip address
 ip access-group 100 in
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip nat inside
 ip virtual-reassembly
 ip route-cache flow
 ip tcp adjust-mss 1360
!
interface Vlan3
 ip address
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip nat 

Re: [c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'

2009-09-29 Thread David Hughes


On 30/09/2009, at 7:08 AM, Dave Weis wrote:



On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Christopher Hunt wrote:
As I painfully discovered, the Cisco ASA in Multiple Context mode  
does not support IPSEC VPN clients nor L2TP3 tunnels


That's a pretty big omission! Any ETA to add that capability?



Yeah, they've never supported VPN in multi-context mode.  Major pain.   
And if you are a dense hosting provider the 50 context limit (and  
limited performance) of a 5540 for example doesn't work too well.   
These issues made us look around again and J-Vendor's boxes are making  
the ASA's look a bit ordinary.



David
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Router//Switches Hardware inventory

2009-09-29 Thread chip
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@inex.ie wrote:

 On 29/09/2009 23:23, omar parihuana wrote:

 Do you know an open source tool for router hardware inventory? I have many
 Cisco devices with many cards inserted, and manage the inventory via Excel
 Format is hard... please any suggestion?


 RANCID (http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/) will manage version control for
 your router configurations, but at the top of each configuration file, it
 will also attempt to do a semi-intelligent internal inventory of the router,
 down to blade level.  The down-side is that the configuration is stored in
 unstructured text.

 If you want something which gives structured text, use show inventory on
 your equipment.  The output of this command can be parsed, and if you're
 running rancid or something similar which allows scripted access to your
 kit, you can script this to provide structured lists of equipment.

 Nick

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There's also a 'show inventory raw'...for what it's worth


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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Router//Switches Hardware inventory

2009-09-29 Thread Hughes, Scott GRE/MG
Netdisco does a tremendous job of hardware inventory. It discovers new  
devices via CDP and stores it's data in a database. It knows about  
blades, wics, and NM modules (with serial numbers for all)

http://www.netdisco.org

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On Sep 29, 2009, at 5:39 PM, omar parihuana  
omar.parihu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello List,

 Do you know an open source tool for router hardware inventory? I  
 have many
 Cisco devices with many cards inserted, and manage the inventory via  
 Excel
 Format is hard... please any suggestion?

 Rgds.

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Re: [c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'

2009-09-29 Thread Dave Weis


On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, David Hughes wrote:

On 30/09/2009, at 7:08 AM, Dave Weis wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Christopher Hunt wrote:
As I painfully discovered, the Cisco ASA in Multiple Context mode does not 
support IPSEC VPN clients nor L2TP3 tunnels


That's a pretty big omission! Any ETA to add that capability?
Yeah, they've never supported VPN in multi-context mode.  Major pain.  And if 
you are a dense hosting provider the 50 context limit (and limited 
performance) of a 5540 for example doesn't work too well.  These issues made 
us look around again and J-Vendor's boxes are making the ASA's look a bit 
ordinary.


I never enjoyed working on the netscreens. I suppose if each virtual 
firewall customer could get the same awkward web interface for self 
provisioning it could be made to work.


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Re: [c-nsp] Hardware for 'managed firewall'

2009-09-29 Thread christian
netscreen management (cli/NSM) is one of the worst i've ever encountered

as far as the topic at hand - i agree w/ Justin's comments - what i've
done in past is FWSM's in the chassis and a pair of asa's for vpn
termination

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Dave Weis djw...@internetsolver.com wrote:

 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, David Hughes wrote:

 On 30/09/2009, at 7:08 AM, Dave Weis wrote:

 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Christopher Hunt wrote:

 As I painfully discovered, the Cisco ASA in Multiple Context mode does
 not support IPSEC VPN clients nor L2TP3 tunnels

 That's a pretty big omission! Any ETA to add that capability?

 Yeah, they've never supported VPN in multi-context mode.  Major pain.  And
 if you are a dense hosting provider the 50 context limit (and limited
 performance) of a 5540 for example doesn't work too well.  These issues made
 us look around again and J-Vendor's boxes are making the ASA's look a bit
 ordinary.

 I never enjoyed working on the netscreens. I suppose if each virtual
 firewall customer could get the same awkward web interface for self
 provisioning it could be made to work.

 --
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 djw...@internetsolver.com
 http://www.internetsolver.com/

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