Stus-List Olde Stuck Seacock

[robert via CnC-List]

Eric:

I have a 1984 C 32 sea cocks are Marelon so I don't have the 
problem of them seizing up...every haul out I spray the ball with 
lithium grease and close and open a few timesmy seacocks are open 
all the time.


Try mixing a solution of 50% acetone - 50% automatic transmission fluid 
and apply that to your seized seacockuse a Q Tip to apply the 
solution.don't get it on the hull or don't leave it there.this 
solution is the best I have used for seized metals.


My cockpit scupper hoses are crossed, as they should be when the thru 
hulls are below the waterline lineno water back up into the cockpit 
on a same tack unless your thru hull(s) is in a different position(s) 
than mine.


That's a grease cup on your rudder tubeif it works, you unscrew the 
cup, fill it with grease, screw back on and twist tight to force the 
grease into the shaft.have someone turn your wheel from side to side 
to draw in the grease and turn again and again.you will get to a 
point where it doesn't want any more grease .


If the cup is too badly corroded, leave it tap and drill a new fitting 
to screw a grease gun to the shaft tube .it will work just as good.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 -#277
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-12-30 12:17 a.m., sender via CnC-List wrote:
I bought earlier this year a C 32.  One issue the surveyor pointed 
out is the seacocks for the cockpit drains are stuck in the open 
position.  This boat has spent it's known history in cold salt water 
on the west coast of BC.


I'm interested to know if anyone else has had this same type of 
seacock, and had success freeing it up.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/xp1haN2nPHUneETUA

The starboard side one is only barely accessible through the 12"x 12" 
panel in the aft end of the quarter-birth.  If it was reasonably 
accessible, I'd just replace it, but to get 2 hands on it I'd probably 
have to go through the locker and remove the fuel tank.


The other pic is a fitting on the rudder tube.  I assume this is 
(well, was) a grease cup.  Has anyone taken one of these on?


Thanks,
Eric
C 32 Sirocco 2

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Stus-List Subject: Re: Powder coating steering pedestal - pitfalls?

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

I replaced my pedestal with an Edson Vision Series...so the old one is sitting 
in the garage.  It's in pretty good shape.  If it could find a happy home my 
wife would be grateful ;-)Spencer Johnson '84 LF 38 "Alegria"  #165Mount 
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Re: Stus-List 1996 C's

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Yes that was her because I was on board Silent Partner when I had my C 41 in 
the Caribbean in the fall/winter of 2004/2005.  I forget the owner’s name, 
really nice guy, he and his wife were running charters with the boat then, my 
wife was impressed as they had a washer and dryer on board



Rod



From: Ken Heaton 
Sent: January-01-19 4:02 PM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Rod Stright 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1996 C's



" I was there about a year after the fire . . .  There was also a 51’ hull that 
was fine as well.  "



That must have been the hull that become 'Silent Partner II', a C 51 that was 
finished from a hull spared by the fire, with the finishing work completed at 
the Wiggers Yard in Ontario, Canada, and was launched in 1997.



Reference: https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC 

 
=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false



and: 
http://used-boats-forsale.blogspot.com/2012/10/52-c-c-custom-wiggers-52-3-cabin-1997.html



Ken H.





On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 at 15:27, Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I was there about a year after the fire and they were trying to sell a 37 
kevlar  hull that was fine.  There was also a 51’ hull that was fine as well.  
As I recall they wound up chopping up the 37’ hull.  The hulls that were out of 
the mould were recessed into cavities in the floor so they were a lot easier to 
work on so there was minimal damage to those boats partially finished hulls.  
Deck moulds were all destroyed as far as I recall.



Rod Stright

Halifax



Rod



From: CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> > On Behalf Of T Sutton via CnC-List
Sent: January-01-19 3:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: T Sutton mailto:t.sut...@bmts.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1996 C's



I am also under the impression that the fire destroyed some of the deck molds 
and that’s why these three boats in question have the stepped transom as 
opposed to the fold out ladder transom.  It also looks like the forward hatch 
is not recessed into the fore deck like the earlier boats and just sits on top 
and possibly a little further aft but it’s a little hard to tell from pictures. 
 Didn’t South Shore also have a 37 XL for sale a couple years ago that must 
have been a late model as I think it had the stepped transom as well.



Happy New  Years all,



Tom S



From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:07 PM

To: cnc-list

Cc: Ken Heaton ; Tom Buscaglia

Subject: Re: Stus-List 1996 C?



Apparently a few hulls (of different sizes) and some parts survived the fire, 
so they were able to complete some boats.  The company (Then C International 
Yachts Ltd.) didn't actually shut down completely until some time in 1996.



For the 34/36 the following are in the US Coast Guard Database:




Hull No.

Vessel Name:

Former Names:

Build Year:

Primary Vessel Number (VIN):

Alternate VINs:

HIN

77 WATER PHANTOM 1994

D1031151 ZCC36077E495

78 PATRIOT

1994 1037533 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36078A494

79 THUNDER 1995 1040632 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36079H596

81 PHOENIX 1994 1031452 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36081J495

87 DISCOVER II 1996 833528

ZCC36087A696

91 AQUARIUS 1996 1045701 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36091C696

93 LADY'S CHOICE PUKALANI 1996

1047737 (Official Number (U.S.))

ZCC36093F696



As another example, Silent Partner II, a C 51, was finished from a hull 
produced by C and spared by the fire, with the finishing work completed at 
the Wiggers Yard in Ontario, Canada, and was launched in 1997.



Reference: https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC 

 
=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false



and: 
http://used-boats-forsale.blogspot.com/2012/10/52-c-c-custom-wiggers-52-3-cabin-1997.html



Happy New Year !



Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia



  
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html



On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 21:50, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I was perusing the C inventory on Yachtworld and saw three different boats 
listed as 1996 36 XL.  They arer clearly 34+/36s.  But I didn't think any C's 
were made after the fire in 94.

Any idea what's up with 

Re: Stus-List 1996 C's

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

" I was there about a year after the fire . . .  There was also a 51’ hull
that was fine as well.  "

That must have been the hull that become 'Silent Partner II', a C 51 that
was finished from a hull spared by the fire, with the finishing work
completed at the Wiggers Yard in Ontario, Canada, and was launched in 1997.

Reference:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false

and:
http://used-boats-forsale.blogspot.com/2012/10/52-c-c-custom-wiggers-52-3-cabin-1997.html

Ken H.


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 at 15:27, Rod Stright via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I was there about a year after the fire and they were trying to sell a 37
> kevlar  hull that was fine.  There was also a 51’ hull that was fine as
> well.  As I recall they wound up chopping up the 37’ hull.  The hulls that
> were out of the mould were recessed into cavities in the floor so they were
> a lot easier to work on so there was minimal damage to those boats
> partially finished hulls.  Deck moulds were all destroyed as far as I
> recall.
>
>
>
> Rod Stright
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> Rod
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *T Sutton
> via CnC-List
> *Sent:* January-01-19 3:15 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* T Sutton 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1996 C's
>
>
>
> I am also under the impression that the fire destroyed some of the deck
> molds and that’s why these three boats in question have the stepped transom
> as opposed to the fold out ladder transom.  It also looks like the forward
> hatch is not recessed into the fore deck like the earlier boats and just
> sits on top and possibly a little further aft but it’s a little hard to
> tell from pictures.  Didn’t South Shore also have a 37 XL for sale a couple
> years ago that must have been a late model as I think it had the stepped
> transom as well.
>
>
>
> Happy New  Years all,
>
>
>
> Tom S
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Heaton via CnC-List
>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 7:07 PM
>
> *To:* cnc-list
>
> *Cc:* Ken Heaton ; Tom Buscaglia
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1996 C?
>
>
>
> Apparently a few hulls (of different sizes) and some parts survived the
> fire, so they were able to complete some boats.  The company (Then C
> International Yachts Ltd.) didn't actually shut down completely until some
> time in 1996.
>
>
>
> For the 34/36 the following are in the US Coast Guard Database:
>
>
>
> *Hull No.*
>
> *Vessel Name:*
>
> *Former Names:*
>
> *Build Year:*
>
> *Primary Vessel Number (VIN):*
>
> *Alternate VINs:*
>
> *HIN*
>
> 77 WATER PHANTOM 1994
>
> D1031151 ZCC36077E495
>
> 78 PATRIOT
>
> 1994 1037533 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36078A494
>
> 79 THUNDER 1995 1040632 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36079H596
>
> 81 PHOENIX 1994 1031452 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36081J495
>
> 87 DISCOVER II 1996 833528
>
> ZCC36087A696
>
> 91 AQUARIUS 1996 1045701 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36091C696
>
> 93 LADY'S CHOICE PUKALANI 1996
>
> 1047737 (Official Number (U.S.))
>
> ZCC36093F696
>
>
>
> As another example, Silent Partner II, a C 51, was finished from a hull
> produced by C and spared by the fire, with the finishing work completed
> at the Wiggers Yard in Ontario, Canada, and was launched in 1997.
>
>
>
> Reference:
> https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false
>
>
>
> and:
> http://used-boats-forsale.blogspot.com/2012/10/52-c-c-custom-wiggers-52-3-cabin-1997.html
>
>
>
> Happy New Year !
>
>
>
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>
>
>
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html
>
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 21:50, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I was perusing the C inventory on Yachtworld and saw three different
> boats listed as 1996 36 XL.  They arer clearly 34+/36s.  But I didn't think
> any C's were made after the fire in 94.
>
> Any idea what's up with these boats?
>
> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/c-c-36-xl-3247141/
>
> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/c-c-36-plus-sloop-3212198/
>
> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/c-c-36-xl-3218067/
>
> Tom BC
>
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
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Re: Stus-List 1996 C's

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I was there about a year after the fire and they were trying to sell a 37 
kevlar  hull that was fine.  There was also a 51’ hull that was fine as well.  
As I recall they wound up chopping up the 37’ hull.  The hulls that were out of 
the mould were recessed into cavities in the floor so they were a lot easier to 
work on so there was minimal damage to those boats partially finished hulls.  
Deck moulds were all destroyed as far as I recall.



Rod Stright

Halifax



Rod



From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of T Sutton via 
CnC-List
Sent: January-01-19 3:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: T Sutton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1996 C's



I am also under the impression that the fire destroyed some of the deck molds 
and that’s why these three boats in question have the stepped transom as 
opposed to the fold out ladder transom.  It also looks like the forward hatch 
is not recessed into the fore deck like the earlier boats and just sits on top 
and possibly a little further aft but it’s a little hard to tell from pictures. 
 Didn’t South Shore also have a 37 XL for sale a couple years ago that must 
have been a late model as I think it had the stepped transom as well.



Happy New  Years all,



Tom S



From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:07 PM

To: cnc-list

Cc: Ken Heaton ; Tom Buscaglia

Subject: Re: Stus-List 1996 C?



Apparently a few hulls (of different sizes) and some parts survived the fire, 
so they were able to complete some boats.  The company (Then C International 
Yachts Ltd.) didn't actually shut down completely until some time in 1996.



For the 34/36 the following are in the US Coast Guard Database:




Hull No.

Vessel Name:

Former Names:

Build Year:

Primary Vessel Number (VIN):

Alternate VINs:

HIN

77 WATER PHANTOM 1994

D1031151 ZCC36077E495

78 PATRIOT

1994 1037533 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36078A494

79 THUNDER 1995 1040632 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36079H596

81 PHOENIX 1994 1031452 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36081J495

87 DISCOVER II 1996 833528

ZCC36087A696

91 AQUARIUS 1996 1045701 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36091C696

93 LADY'S CHOICE PUKALANI 1996

1047737 (Official Number (U.S.))

ZCC36093F696



As another example, Silent Partner II, a C 51, was finished from a hull 
produced by C and spared by the fire, with the finishing work completed at 
the Wiggers Yard in Ontario, Canada, and was launched in 1997.



Reference: https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC 

 
=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false



and: 
http://used-boats-forsale.blogspot.com/2012/10/52-c-c-custom-wiggers-52-3-cabin-1997.html



Happy New Year !



Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia



  
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html



On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 21:50, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I was perusing the C inventory on Yachtworld and saw three different boats 
listed as 1996 36 XL.  They arer clearly 34+/36s.  But I didn't think any C's 
were made after the fire in 94.

Any idea what's up with these boats?

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/c-c-36-xl-3247141/

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/c-c-36-plus-sloop-3212198/

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/c-c-36-xl-3218067/

Tom BC

.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com 



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Re: Stus-List 1996 C's

[T Sutton via CnC-List]

I am also under the impression that the fire destroyed some of the deck molds 
and that’s why these three boats in question have the stepped transom as 
opposed to the fold out ladder transom.  It also looks like the forward hatch 
is not recessed into the fore deck like the earlier boats and just sits on top 
and possibly a little further aft but it’s a little hard to tell from pictures. 
 Didn’t South Shore also have a 37 XL for sale a couple years ago that must 
have been a late model as I think it had the stepped transom as well.

Happy New  Years all,

Tom S

From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:07 PM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton ; Tom Buscaglia 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1996 C?

Apparently a few hulls (of different sizes) and some parts survived the fire, 
so they were able to complete some boats.  The company (Then C International 
Yachts Ltd.) didn't actually shut down completely until some time in 1996.

For the 34/36 the following are in the US Coast Guard Database:

  Hull No. Vessel Name: Former Names: Build Year: Primary Vessel Number 
(VIN): Alternate VINs: HIN 

77 WATER PHANTOM 1994 D1031151 ZCC36077E495
78 PATRIOT 1994 1037533 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36078A494
79 THUNDER 1995 1040632 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36079H596
81 PHOENIX 1994 1031452 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36081J495
87 DISCOVER II 1996 833528 ZCC36087A696
91 AQUARIUS 1996 1045701 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36091C696
93 LADY'S CHOICE PUKALANI 1996 1047737 (Official Number (U.S.)) ZCC36093F696

As another example, Silent Partner II, a C 51, was finished from a hull 
produced by C and spared by the fire, with the finishing work completed at 
the Wiggers Yard in Ontario, Canada, and was launched in 1997.

Reference: 
https://books.google.ca/books?id=COilQT7iWTgC=PP1845=PP1845=%22C%26C+51%22=bl=f1LViZ-uBb=5rY194uxgtQpguivNbaucTDJIHE=en=X=2ahUKEwiD14XxtL3fAhVNmlkKHQkjCCA4ChDoATADegQIBRAB#v=onepage=%22C%26C%2051%22=false

and: 
http://used-boats-forsale.blogspot.com/2012/10/52-c-c-custom-wiggers-52-3-cabin-1997.html

Happy New Year ! 

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia


https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html

On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 21:50, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  I was perusing the C inventory on Yachtworld and saw three different boats 
listed as 1996 36 XL.  They arer clearly 34+/36s.  But I didn't think any C's 
were made after the fire in 94.

  Any idea what's up with these boats?

  https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/c-c-36-xl-3247141/

  https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/c-c-36-plus-sloop-3212198/

  https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/c-c-36-xl-3218067/

  Tom BC

  .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
  Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
  SV Alera
  C 37+/40
  Vashon Island WA
  (206) 463-9200
  www.sv-alera.com 




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Re: Stus-List Call At 1:00pm (EST) Today!

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

No recording seems to be available at the playback number using that access 
code. Is more information required?

Steve Thomas
C MKIII

 David via CnC-List  wrote: 
Hello All,

Please join us for a call with Denis about his transatlantic passage aboard his 
C & C 27 Mk 5.

Call details;


  *   12/31 at 1:00pm EST

  *   (605) 472-5628.  Access code 542240

Playback number for those who cannot make the scheduled call is (605) 475-4957

Please mute your phones!!!

I tried to attached his diary from his passage to this email, but the server 
did not like that.  Send me an email personally and I will forward it to you.

Whatever questions you have I will forward to Denis prior to the call. Even if 
you cannot make the call, do send along your questions.

The call will be an hour (approximate) in duration.

If you are so inclined to donate for the call please donate our Friend Stu.



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Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650


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Re: Stus-List Back on the List

[Maurice Poulin via CnC-List]

Greetings,

I think someone posted a little used main last week, I think Rod Stright was 
the name of the poster.  Recall he had measurements for the main.

cheers,

Maurice
Monoloy
C 30 MKII


-Original Message-
From: Bill McNamara via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Bill McNamara 
Sent: Tue, Jan 1, 2019 10:29 AM
Subject: Stus-List Back on the List



Happy New year to all C folks, from
Ontario Canada.
Have just re joined the list, to help with
the cabin fever this Winter.
Great to read about things sailing at this
time of year when ice & snow cover the land.
Our boat is a 1978 34, that we've been
enjoying for a little over 30 years now on Lake Ontario.
No major problems EVER, not even
paint, just regular maintenance.
We've kept her simple, pretty much as per
original, no big "upgrades" to date.
My pre-launch list this year includes a
new hose for the stuffing box, a new Cutlass bearing, and an engine
re-alignment.Pretty regular stuff. I pulled the prop shaft at haulout. had it
checked at a machine shop, and it's perfectly true.
Also looking for a good used cruising
main..wondering if any of you might have a recently retired sail you'd be
willing to part with for a reasonable price?
Cheers,
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Re: Stus-List Powder coating steering pedestal - pitfalls?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Thanks, folks.

First, Chuck.  Your comment on the bearings being destroyed is exactly the
technical info I was looking for.

Bill, Rob - I hear you.  When I first bought Touche' I wire brushed and
sanded parts of the pedestal then painted those areas with white Rustoleum
(or Krylon).  That has held up well for many years.

Your comments, combined with Chuck's info on the shaft removal is
"steering" me towards painting it again.  Sounds like the safer route.
It's certainly the easier route.

The pedestal stays under a Sunbrella cover when not in use so the paint
should hold up well.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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[Bill McNamara via CnC-List]

Happy New year to all C folks, from Ontario Canada.
Have just re joined the list, to help with the cabin fever this Winter.
Great to read about things sailing at this time of year when ice & snow cover 
the land.

Our boat is a 1978 34, that we've been enjoying for a little over 30 years now 
on Lake Ontario.
No major problems EVER, not even paint, just regular maintenance. 
We've kept her simple, pretty much as per original, no big "upgrades" to date.
My pre-launch list this year includes a new hose for the stuffing box, a new 
Cutlass bearing, and an engine re-alignment.Pretty regular stuff. I pulled the 
prop shaft at haulout. had it checked at a machine shop, and it's perfectly 
true.

Also looking for a good used cruising main..wondering if any of you might 
have a recently retired sail you'd be willing to part with for a reasonable 
price?

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Stus-List Powder coating steering pedestal - pitfalls?

[robert via CnC-List]

I did something similar about 8 years agomy pedestal paint was 
fadedbought a rustoleum flat paint and applied two coats.never 
used a primerit still looks good after 8 seasons in the weather and 
with the 'flat finish' it is hard to tell the difference between 'powder 
coating'.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 2019-01-01 10:53 a.m., WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List wrote:


I hesitate to comment because of the status on this list of Dennis and 
others, whose technical expertise far surpasses mine, but here we go...

My friends think of me as VERY particular about my CnC...
5 years ago my pedestal was looking rough.  I decided to paint it.  
Removed what I could easily, taped off what I couldn't, mask off the 
cockpit with plastic to catch overspray, sanded lightly.
Used a rustoleum primer, then three light coats of rustoleum semi 
gloss.  My pedestal was black originally, so kept with that.
5 years later it still looks great...I can't imagine the issues I 
would have faced to pull the pedestalbut I would paint again if it 
needed it.

Are you sure you need to powder coat?

Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi





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Stus-List C 36-1 centerboard

[Rod Fisk via CnC-List]

I have a 1981 36-1 centerboard. There is nothing in the boat's manual about
the centerboard version. Does anyone have any details about the board
lifting mechanism, the weight of the board, recommended maintenance, or how
to inspect any of the moving parts?

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Re: Stus-List Powder coating steering pedestal - pitfalls?

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

I hesitate to comment because of the status on this list of Dennis and others, 
whose technical expertise far surpasses mine, but here we go...
My friends think of me as VERY particular about my CnC...
5 years ago my pedestal was looking rough.  I decided to paint it.  Removed 
what I could easily, taped off what I couldn't, mask off the cockpit with 
plastic to catch overspray, sanded lightly.
Used a rustoleum primer, then three light coats of rustoleum semi gloss.  My 
pedestal was black originally, so kept with that.
5 years later it still looks great...I can't imagine the issues I would have 
faced to pull the pedestalbut I would paint again if it needed it.
Are you sure you need to powder coat?



Bill Walker 
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi

On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Happy New Year Dennis!  Where to start?  First, good luck finding ANY 
replacement Morch bits.  I can’t recall if Morch used sleeves or needle 
bearings to support the wheel shaft but I know Edson bearings get destroyed 
when to drive out the wheel shaft and need to be replaced.  Even if you can 
find or build new pedestal parts, to properly replace powder coating, the 
pedestal will need to be media blasted to bare metal and then acid washed to 
make sure the new coating adheres properly.  


With regards to your engine controller, the throttle and shift shafts remove by 
taking out a Phillips head screw that retains the shaft in place in the 
casting.  Once they are removed, you can slide out the shaft as well as 
removing and replacing the two delrin bushings that serve as shaft bushings.


Just curious, but does the Morch pedestal have mounting bolts that measure 9 
1/2” center to center?  If yes, why not save hours and hours of labor and just 
buy a new or lightly used(see hurricane damaged boat) Edson unit with a through 
shaft wheel brake and a nice shiny finish?  You might also need to buy new 
aluminum pedestal mounting bolts, but everything else should line up.

Give me a shout if you care to discuss options outside of what’s been discussed.

Best
Chuck Gilchrest 

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall 

Padanaram MA


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 31, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:

OK, Touche' is back in Louisiana from Florida for a couple months for new 
canvas and some long deferred maintenance.  Having the boat 1 hour away rather 
than 4 hours lets me do some major work.


One of the tasks on the list is a complete maintenance process on the steering 
system.  As part of that I am exploring having the pedestal re-powdercoated.  
Going to be a pain to remove all the instrument cables and engine controls, 
etc. and strip the pedestal.


I think I'm good on removing the pedestal and the idler sheave plate below the 
deck.  I've been in the pedestal a couple times when I moved the engine 
controls from the cockpit bulkhead to the pedestal using an Edson engine 
control assembly.  I've also pulled a pedestal on a C 29 MK II.


I might ask advice if I encounter issues but have some pre-task questions now 
just for planning.


Question 1.  I suspect that powder coating will require me to remove the 
steering wheel shaft and provide a stripped pedestal to them.  Not sure how the 
wheel shaft is installed or how the sprocket is attached to the shaft.  Edson's 
maintenance document (https://edsonmarine.com/content/EB381SteeringGuide.pdf) 
shows a drive pin and some needle bearings.  Touche's pedestal is a Morch.  It 
is NOT an Edson or Yachting Specialties pedestal.  Does anybody know if a Morch 
pedestal is the same?


Second question bothering me is the bearing surfaces are on the pedestal where 
the needle bearing (if any) are?  Will this be a problem for the powder 
coaters?  I suspect they will have a technique for protecting the surface from 
excess powder coat.


Question 3.  The Edson engine control assembly (#870) is also corroding.  I may 
have it powder coated also.  How hard is it to remove the control levers to 
strip the assembly?  Chuck?  


Thanks,


Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Powder coating steering pedestal - pitfalls?

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Happy New Year Dennis!  Where to start?  First, good luck finding ANY 
replacement Morch bits.  I can’t recall if Morch used sleeves or needle 
bearings to support the wheel shaft but I know Edson bearings get destroyed 
when to drive out the wheel shaft and need to be replaced.  Even if you can 
find or build new pedestal parts, to properly replace powder coating, the 
pedestal will need to be media blasted to bare metal and then acid washed to 
make sure the new coating adheres properly.  

With regards to your engine controller, the throttle and shift shafts remove by 
taking out a Phillips head screw that retains the shaft in place in the 
casting.  Once they are removed, you can slide out the shaft as well as 
removing and replacing the two delrin bushings that serve as shaft bushings.

Just curious, but does the Morch pedestal have mounting bolts that measure 9 
1/2” center to center?  If yes, why not save hours and hours of labor and just 
buy a new or lightly used(see hurricane damaged boat) Edson unit with a through 
shaft wheel brake and a nice shiny finish?  You might also need to buy new 
aluminum pedestal mounting bolts, but everything else should line up.
Give me a shout if you care to discuss options outside of what’s been discussed.
Best
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall 
Padanaram MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, Touche' is back in Louisiana from Florida for a couple months for new 
> canvas and some long deferred maintenance.  Having the boat 1 hour away 
> rather than 4 hours lets me do some major work.
> 
> One of the tasks on the list is a complete maintenance process on the 
> steering system.  As part of that I am exploring having the pedestal 
> re-powdercoated.  Going to be a pain to remove all the instrument cables and 
> engine controls, etc. and strip the pedestal.
> 
> I think I'm good on removing the pedestal and the idler sheave plate below 
> the deck.  I've been in the pedestal a couple times when I moved the engine 
> controls from the cockpit bulkhead to the pedestal using an Edson engine 
> control assembly.  I've also pulled a pedestal on a C 29 MK II.
> 
> I might ask advice if I encounter issues but have some pre-task questions now 
> just for planning.
> 
> Question 1.  I suspect that powder coating will require me to remove the 
> steering wheel shaft and provide a stripped pedestal to them.  Not sure how 
> the wheel shaft is installed or how the sprocket is attached to the shaft.  
> Edson's maintenance document 
> (https://edsonmarine.com/content/EB381SteeringGuide.pdf) shows a drive pin 
> and some needle bearings.  Touche's pedestal is a Morch.  It is NOT an Edson 
> or Yachting Specialties pedestal.  Does anybody know if a Morch pedestal is 
> the same?
> 
> Second question bothering me is the bearing surfaces are on the pedestal 
> where the needle bearing (if any) are?  Will this be a problem for the powder 
> coaters?  I suspect they will have a technique for protecting the surface 
> from excess powder coat.
> 
> Question 3.  The Edson engine control assembly (#870) is also corroding.  I 
> may have it powder coated also.  How hard is it to remove the control levers 
> to strip the assembly?  Chuck?  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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