Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

If someone wants a mast there one on Kijiji for sale
And there a salvage yard that cut them up because there no room for to
store them
He get lots of cnc

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 6:45 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> As Matt mentioned, after a couple boats blew over at our club, they came
> out with an edict that any boats with masts up will have to be on a
> cradle.  That is not to say that a boat can't blow over in a cradle, there
> are tons of poorly designed cradles, or poorly maintained cradles around.
> I have made several over the years, and just this fall got roped into
> revamping a Catalina 36 cradle. He gave me the original drawings for the
> cradle, I couldn't believe it was an original design by Catalina - the
> whole thing, even the longitudinal stringers were only 4" channel, which,
> after being picked up by the ends, which is how they move cradles here, it
> sagged down about 6". So it got two new 8" I beams longitudinally and two
> crosswise under the keel. I would have made it more than 8 feet wide, but
> the dockmaster told me it couldn't be more than that. The point here, I
> guess is to get a good cradle.  There are a few down at our club that are
> an amazing design. They are made by Viking Trailers,  in Butler, PA,
> Unfortunately , they don't  have any pictures on their site of them, if
> anyone is interested I can send a picture. There are four uprights per
> side, all adjustable in, out, and up, and also have fold down flaps to
> stabilize it up to 12' wide.  Really well thought out.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Erie PA Entrada
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:19 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over
>> in a winter storm.  He now has no mast.
>>
>>
>>
>> With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat
>> from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in
>> three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
>>
>>
>>
>> Food for thought
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Hoyt
>>
>> Persistence
>>
>> Halifax, NS
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bob Mann via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
>> *To:* Stus-List 
>> *Cc:* Bob Mann 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List winter storage
>>
>>
>>
>> Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those
>> who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or
>> do you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
>> ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
>>
>> Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those
>> who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or
>> do you loosen the shrouds for the winter?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Mann
>>
>> Mystic
>>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
>> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Stu
>>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
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Stus-List Re: winter storage cradle

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hey Bill,
 
I'd like to see pictures of cradles that impressed you.
 
Thanks,
Chuck
 
 

> On 10/28/2023 6:44 PM EDT Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> As Matt mentioned, after a couple boats blew over at our club, they came out 
> with an edict that any boats with masts up will have to be on a cradle.  That 
> is not to say that a boat can't blow over in a cradle, there are tons of 
> poorly designed cradles, or poorly maintained cradles around.  I have made 
> several over the years, and just this fall got roped into revamping a 
> Catalina 36 cradle. He gave me the original drawings for the cradle, I 
> couldn't believe it was an original design by Catalina - the whole thing, 
> even the longitudinal stringers were only 4" channel, which, after being 
> picked up by the ends, which is how they move cradles here, it sagged down 
> about 6". So it got two new 8" I beams longitudinally and two crosswise under 
> the keel. I would have made it more than 8 feet wide, but the dockmaster told 
> me it couldn't be more than that. The point here, I guess is to get a good 
> cradle.  There are a few down at our club that are an amazing design. They 
> are made by Viking Trailers,  in Butler, PA,  Unfortunately , they don't  
> have any pictures on their site of them, if anyone is interested I can send a 
> picture. There are four uprights per side, all adjustable in, out, and up, 
> and also have fold down flaps to stabilize it up to 12' wide.  Really well 
> thought out.
>  
> Bill Coleman
> Erie PA Entrada
> 
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:19 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in 
> > a winter storm.  He now has no mast.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat 
> > from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in 
> > three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Food for thought
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Mike Hoyt
> > 
> > Persistence
> > 
> > Halifax, NS
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Bob Mann via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
> > To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net>
> > Subject: Stus-List winter storage
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those 
> > who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or 
> > do you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
> > ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those 
> > who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or 
> > do you loosen the shrouds for the winter?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Bob Mann
> > 
> > Mystic
> > 
> > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and 
> > help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
> > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> > Thanks for your help.
> > Stu
> > 
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
> me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:
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> Thanks for your help.
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> 
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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

As Matt mentioned, after a couple boats blew over at our club, they came
out with an edict that any boats with masts up will have to be on a
cradle.  That is not to say that a boat can't blow over in a cradle, there
are tons of poorly designed cradles, or poorly maintained cradles around.
I have made several over the years, and just this fall got roped into
revamping a Catalina 36 cradle. He gave me the original drawings for the
cradle, I couldn't believe it was an original design by Catalina - the
whole thing, even the longitudinal stringers were only 4" channel, which,
after being picked up by the ends, which is how they move cradles here, it
sagged down about 6". So it got two new 8" I beams longitudinally and two
crosswise under the keel. I would have made it more than 8 feet wide, but
the dockmaster told me it couldn't be more than that. The point here, I
guess is to get a good cradle.  There are a few down at our club that are
an amazing design. They are made by Viking Trailers,  in Butler, PA,
Unfortunately , they don't  have any pictures on their site of them, if
anyone is interested I can send a picture. There are four uprights per
side, all adjustable in, out, and up, and also have fold down flaps to
stabilize it up to 12' wide.  Really well thought out.

Bill Coleman
Erie PA Entrada

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:19 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in
> a winter storm.  He now has no mast.
>
>
>
> With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat
> from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in
> three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
>
>
>
> Food for thought
>
>
>
> Mike Hoyt
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax, NS
>
>
>
> *From:* Bob Mann via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Bob Mann 
> *Subject:* Stus-List winter storage
>
>
>
> Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those
> who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or
> do you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
>
> Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those
> who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or
> do you loosen the shrouds for the winter?
>
>
>
> Bob Mann
>
> Mystic
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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> Thanks for your help.
> Stu
>
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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Tom Sancton via CnC-List]

Have you considered installing a garboard in the bottom of the bilge. I did and it works well to resolve the water buildup when on the hard.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 20, 2023, at 11:54 AM, John McCrea via CnC-List  wrote:I will store mast up this year. It had been the last two for a full refit and I see no reason to take it down for a few more years. Our yard has a custom C 36 cradle (they used to require all owners buy a cradle) that a former owner left that has been assigned to me for the past 5 winters. They will also use jack stands as well to support the boat. So, I feel safe leaving it up. Just have to keep up on the rainwater with a shop vac and hand bilge pump.  John McCreaTalisman1979 C 36-1Mystic, CT   From: Leeward Rail via CnC-List  Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 10:08 AMTo: Stus-List Cc: Hoyt, Mike ; Leeward Rail Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage It's really in the details.. How is boat is stored ? Stands ? Cradle ?  Trailer?  If stands, were they on gravel, grass, concrete, pads ?  If a cradle or trailer How is it built ? Is the keel supported on the sides so it can't move sideways? If a trailer, does it have drop legs ? There are just under 100 boats stored at our marina for the winter. 99%  are mast up, on trailers with the frame supported to reduce load on the axle and tires.  Hasn't been an issue since the marina was built in the early 80s and we get strong prairie storms, winter and summer. A summer storm with plow winds went through years ago, and the boats that hadn't been launched yet were fine. On the opposite side... Last week a newbie from the coast was worried about staying at a marina that stores mast down, due to power lines Someone mentionthat a boat at nearby marina had their boat mast accidentally dropped onto the deck while getting being hauled for the winter...  so now the newbies are scared to lower the mast due to risk of damage and perceived stress on the stick.  They travelled 40 miles, to a different marina so they didn't have to lower the mast. 路 18 Oct 2023 9:19:32 am Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>:Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a winter storm.  He now has no mast. With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three areas.  The boat was on a cradle. Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

I leave my mast up here in Marina Seca San carlos for the summer. There's
probably 200+ stored here. All on jack stands, hard pan, and wood blocks
under the keel. I remove sails, canvas, lines, and cover the boat with a
sunshade. I worry more about UV damage than the occasional 70kt winds.

Douglas Mountjoy
1988 C LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 07:54 John McCrea via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I will store mast up this year. It had been the last two for a full refit
> and I see no reason to take it down for a few more years. Our yard has a
> custom C 36 cradle (they used to require all owners buy a cradle) that a
> former owner left that has been assigned to me for the past 5 winters. They
> will also use jack stands as well to support the boat. So, I feel safe
> leaving it up. Just have to keep up on the rainwater with a shop vac and
> hand bilge pump.
>
>
>
> John McCrea
>
> Talisman
>
> 1979 C 36-1
>
> Mystic, CT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Leeward Rail via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 20, 2023 10:08 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike ; Leeward Rail <
> leeward_r...@hotmail.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: winter storage
>
>
>
> It's really in the details..
>
> How is boat is stored ? Stands ? Cradle ?  Trailer?  If stands, were they
> on gravel, grass, concrete, pads ?  If a cradle or trailer How is it built
> ? Is the keel supported on the sides so it can't move sideways? If a
> trailer, does it have drop legs ?
>
> There are just under 100 boats stored at our marina for the winter. 99%
> are mast up, on trailers with the frame supported to reduce load on the
> axle and tires.
>
> Hasn't been an issue since the marina was built in the early 80s and we
> get strong prairie storms, winter and summer.
> A summer storm with plow winds went through years ago, and the boats that
> hadn't been launched yet were fine.
>
> On the opposite side...
> Last week a newbie from the coast was worried about staying at a marina
> that stores mast down, due to power lines Someone mentionthat a boat at
> nearby marina had their boat mast accidentally dropped onto the deck while
> getting being hauled for the winter...  so now the newbies are scared to
> lower the mast due to risk of damage and perceived stress on the stick.
> They travelled 40 miles, to a different marina so they didn't have to lower
> the mast. 路
>
> 18 Oct 2023 9:19:32 am Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List :
>
> Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in
> a winter storm.  He now has no mast.
>
> With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat
> from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in
> three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> Thanks for your help.
> Stu
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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[John McCrea via CnC-List]

I will store mast up this year. It had been the last two for a full refit and I 
see no reason to take it down for a few more years. Our yard has a custom C 
36 cradle (they used to require all owners buy a cradle) that a former owner 
left that has been assigned to me for the past 5 winters. They will also use 
jack stands as well to support the boat. So, I feel safe leaving it up. Just 
have to keep up on the rainwater with a shop vac and hand bilge pump. 

 

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 C 36-1

Mystic, CT

 

 

 

From: Leeward Rail via CnC-List  
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 10:08 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike ; Leeward Rail 
Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage

 

It's really in the details.. 

How is boat is stored ? Stands ? Cradle ?  Trailer?  If stands, were they on 
gravel, grass, concrete, pads ?  If a cradle or trailer How is it built ? Is 
the keel supported on the sides so it can't move sideways? If a trailer, does 
it have drop legs ? 

There are just under 100 boats stored at our marina for the winter. 99%  are 
mast up, on trailers with the frame supported to reduce load on the axle and 
tires.  

Hasn't been an issue since the marina was built in the early 80s and we get 
strong prairie storms, winter and summer. 
A summer storm with plow winds went through years ago, and the boats that 
hadn't been launched yet were fine. 

On the opposite side... 
Last week a newbie from the coast was worried about staying at a marina that 
stores mast down, due to power lines Someone mentionthat a boat at nearby 
marina had their boat mast accidentally dropped onto the deck while getting 
being hauled for the winter...  so now the newbies are scared to lower the mast 
due to risk of damage and perceived stress on the stick.  They travelled 40 
miles, to a different marina so they didn't have to lower the mast. 路 

18 Oct 2023 9:19:32 am Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >:

Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
winter storm.  He now has no mast. 

With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from 
blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three 
areas.  The boat was on a cradle. 

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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Leeward Rail via CnC-List]

It's really in the details..

How is boat is stored ? Stands ? Cradle ?  Trailer?  If stands, were they on 
gravel, grass, concrete, pads ?  If a cradle or trailer How is it built ? Is 
the keel supported on the sides so it can't move sideways? If a trailer, does 
it have drop legs ?

There are just under 100 boats stored at our marina for the winter. 99%  are 
mast up, on trailers with the frame supported to reduce load on the axle and 
tires. 

Hasn't been an issue since the marina was built in the early 80s and we get 
strong prairie storms, winter and summer.
A summer storm with plow winds went through years ago, and the boats that 
hadn't been launched yet were fine.

On the opposite side...
Last week a newbie from the coast was worried about staying at a marina that 
stores mast down, due to power lines Someone mentionthat a boat at nearby 
marina had their boat mast accidentally dropped onto the deck while getting 
being hauled for the winter...  so now the newbies are scared to lower the mast 
due to risk of damage and perceived stress on the stick.  They travelled 40 
miles, to a different marina so they didn't have to lower the mast. 路

18 Oct 2023 9:19:32 am Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List :

> Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
> winter storm.  He now has no mast.
> 
> With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat 
> from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in 
> three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
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Stus-List Re: winter storage, boatstands

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Agree,our yards always use plywood pads, but 1/2" plywood seems too thin, too 
weak and I always find pads with the leg penetrating several wood layers, or 
through and many pads are reused while the show cracks through several layers.  
I'd rather supply solid 3/4" pads for my stands and end the worry and avoid any 
drama.
 
C

> On 10/19/2023 12:44 PM EDT wolf...@erie.net wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Placement of jackstand legs on plywood pieces is mandatory at my Club.
> 
>  
> 
> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 12:31 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: wolf...@erie.net
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re:winter storage, boatstands
> 
>  
> 
> One problem with jackstands is settling. The legs dig a hole in the ground.
> 
> Many boatyards don't check their stands after they block the boat. 
> 
>  
> 
> When my boat is on the hard, I make it a point to visit the boat regularly 
> and tighten up the jackscrews, before climbing aboard.  I usually find that 
> one or two need tighening, but it is important to not overdo it.  The keel is 
> supposed to support 90% of the boat weight and the jackstands carry only 10%. 
>Brownell has a few videos that explain how their jackstands should be 
> placed and how the chain is tensioned.   https://boatstands.com/proper-use/ 
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fboatstands.com%2fproper-use%2f=E,1,fRaOFpS31u_-NGuJYMC2SSmgXI3zUxO5oAgkFoVRM6wTHXFYm3zvWLhAjYr6R2-E_X_W8vLpa5xpGtJY20fL0veGM5mzL2bMgJjq_v-9GcYPDQ,,=1_add=1
> 
>  
> 
> I occasionally check the boats around me to be assured they are safe.  If I 
> find they need adjusting, I ask the yard workers to check them.  They usually 
> thank me, and if the manager is decent, he will have his guys check all the 
> stands across the yard.
> 
>  
> 
> In my area, the boatyards are mostly gravel or loose stone and the legs of 
> the typical jackstand are placed onto 4" plywood squares cut from 1/2" 
> plywood.  I made a set of pads for my boat's stands from 3/4" plywood and cut 
> them 6" square to spread the load better. 
> 
>  
> 
> Boatyards don't allow owners to move stands, so any stand work has to be done 
> discreetly, and quietly.
> 
>  
> 
> C
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> > 
> > On 10/19/2023 11:00 AM EDT Matt Wolford via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > FWIW, cradles are usually better than jack stands.  My club in Erie 
> > considered eliminating cradles a number of years ago (to save space), then 
> > reversed course because cradles are typically more stable than jack stands.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > A related consideration is how the cradle is constructed.  I modified my 
> > cradle by having two pieces of steel beam welded to the cradle on each side 
> > of the keel.  The steel pieces were modified to hold pads which push 
> > against the sides of the keel to prevent keel movement.  I did this because 
> > – according to yard personnel -- when a sailboat is pushed off a cradle due 
> > to high winds, the movement usually starts at the base of the keel.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:19 AM
> > To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>
> > Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in 
> > a winter storm.  He now has no mast.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat 
> > from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in 
> > three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Food for thought
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Mike Hoyt
> > 
> > Persistence
> > 
> > Halifax, NS
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Bob Mann via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
> > To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net>
> > Subject: Stus-List winter storage
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those 
> > who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or 
> > do you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
> > ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 

Stus-List Re: winter storage, boatstands

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

Placement of jackstand legs on plywood pieces is mandatory at my Club.

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER  
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 12:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: wolf...@erie.net
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re:winter storage, boatstands

 

One problem with jackstands is settling. The legs dig a hole in the ground.

Many boatyards don't check their stands after they block the boat.  

  

When my boat is on the hard, I make it a point to visit the boat regularly and 
tighten up the jackscrews, before climbing aboard.  I usually find that one or 
two need tighening, but it is important to not overdo it.  The keel is supposed 
to support 90% of the boat weight and the jackstands carry only 10%.
Brownell has a few videos that explain how their jackstands should be placed 
and how the chain is tensioned.   https://boatstands.com/proper-use/ 
<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fboatstands.com%2fproper-use%2f=E,1,fRaOFpS31u_-NGuJYMC2SSmgXI3zUxO5oAgkFoVRM6wTHXFYm3zvWLhAjYr6R2-E_X_W8vLpa5xpGtJY20fL0veGM5mzL2bMgJjq_v-9GcYPDQ,,=1_add=1>
  

  

I occasionally check the boats around me to be assured they are safe.  If I 
find they need adjusting, I ask the yard workers to check them.  They usually 
thank me, and if the manager is decent, he will have his guys check all the 
stands across the yard.

  

In my area, the boatyards are mostly gravel or loose stone and the legs of the 
typical jackstand are placed onto 4" plywood squares cut from 1/2" plywood.  I 
made a set of pads for my boat's stands from 3/4" plywood and cut them 6" 
square to spread the load better.  

  

Boatyards don't allow owners to move stands, so any stand work has to be done 
discreetly, and quietly. 

  

C 

  

  

  

  

  

On 10/19/2023 11:00 AM EDT Matt Wolford via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

  

  

FWIW, cradles are usually better than jack stands.  My club in Erie considered 
eliminating cradles a number of years ago (to save space), then reversed course 
because cradles are typically more stable than jack stands.

 

A related consideration is how the cradle is constructed.  I modified my cradle 
by having two pieces of steel beam welded to the cradle on each side of the 
keel.  The steel pieces were modified to hold pads which push against the sides 
of the keel to prevent keel movement.  I did this because – according to yard 
personnel -- when a sailboat is pushed off a cradle due to high winds, the 
movement usually starts at the base of the keel.  

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:19 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage

 

Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
winter storm.  He now has no mast.

 

With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from 
blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three 
areas.  The boat was on a cradle.

 

Food for thought

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS

 

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? 

  

Bob Mann 

Mystic 

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[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

One problem with jackstands is settling. The legs dig a hole in the ground.
Many boatyards don't check their stands after they block the boat. 
 
When my boat is on the hard, I make it a point to visit the boat regularly and 
tighten up the jackscrews, before climbing aboard.  I usually find that one or 
two need tighening, but it is important to not overdo it.  The keel is supposed 
to support 90% of the boat weight and the jackstands carry only 10%.
Brownell has a few videos that explain how their jackstands should be placed 
and how the chain is tensioned.   https://boatstands.com/proper-use/
 
I occasionally check the boats around me to be assured they are safe.  If I 
find they need adjusting, I ask the yard workers to check them.  They usually 
thank me, and if the manager is decent, he will have his guys check all the 
stands across the yard.
 
In my area, the boatyards are mostly gravel or loose stone and the legs of the 
typical jackstand are placed onto 4" plywood squares cut from 1/2" plywood.  I 
made a set of pads for my boat's stands from 3/4" plywood and cut them 6" 
square to spread the load better. 
 
Boatyards don't allow owners to move stands, so any stand work has to be done 
discreetly, and quietly.
 
C
 
 
 
 
 

> On 10/19/2023 11:00 AM EDT Matt Wolford via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> FWIW, cradles are usually better than jack stands.  My club in Erie 
> considered eliminating cradles a number of years ago (to save space), then 
> reversed course because cradles are typically more stable than jack stands.
> 
>  
> 
> A related consideration is how the cradle is constructed.  I modified my 
> cradle by having two pieces of steel beam welded to the cradle on each side 
> of the keel.  The steel pieces were modified to hold pads which push against 
> the sides of the keel to prevent keel movement.  I did this because – 
> according to yard personnel -- when a sailboat is pushed off a cradle due to 
> high winds, the movement usually starts at the base of the keel.  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:19 AM
> To: 'Stus-List' 
> Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage
> 
>  
> 
> Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
> winter storm.  He now has no mast.
> 
>  
> 
> With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat 
> from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in 
> three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
> 
>  
> 
> Food for thought
> 
>  
> 
> Mike Hoyt
> 
> Persistence
> 
> Halifax, NS
> 
>  
> 
> From: Bob Mann via CnC-List  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net>
> Subject: Stus-List winter storage
> 
>  
> 
> Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
> store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do 
> you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
> ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> 
>  
> 
> Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
> store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do 
> you loosen the shrouds for the winter?
> 
>  
> 
> Bob Mann
> 
> Mystic
> 
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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

FWIW, cradles are usually better than jack stands.  My club in Erie considered 
eliminating cradles a number of years ago (to save space), then reversed course 
because cradles are typically more stable than jack stands.

 

A related consideration is how the cradle is constructed.  I modified my cradle 
by having two pieces of steel beam welded to the cradle on each side of the 
keel.  The steel pieces were modified to hold pads which push against the sides 
of the keel to prevent keel movement.  I did this because – according to yard 
personnel -- when a sailboat is pushed off a cradle due to high winds, the 
movement usually starts at the base of the keel.  

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:19 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage

 

Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
winter storm.  He now has no mast.

 

With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from 
blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three 
areas.  The boat was on a cradle.

 

Food for thought

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS

 

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? 

  

Bob Mann 

Mystic 

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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[John Read via CnC-List]

Tipping is one of the main reasons I store mast down.  Mast presents a lot of 
windage in cold winter storms.  Puts a lot of pressure on small area of poppet 
that actually contacts the hull.  To experience how much just stick your arm 
out the window of a car going 60!!  Use steel cradle purpose built for the 
boat.  Yard adds one extra stand port and starboard.  No problems in 25 years.

 

John Read

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT

 

From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 5:52 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike ; Robert Abbott 

Subject: Stus-List winter storage

 

The key to keeping mast up during winter is the cradlethe boats with 
inadequate or damaged cradles are at risk.  I have seen several boats at my 
club where the boats have toppled and it was the cradle that failed in every 
instance.

And for loosening the rigging in winterno need if the rig is properly tuned 
at storagebesides, as someone here mentioned, the aluminum mast shrinks 
first in extreme cold.  

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32- #277
halifax, N.S. 

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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Well said, Jeff.
 
 

> On 10/18/2023 7:12 PM EDT Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> Aluminum coefficient of thermal expansion is about 13e-6 and SS about 6.5e-6. 
> If the mast from keel to head is 50 ft, and temp change is 100 degrees F mast 
> contracts about 3/4" and stays, which are shorter but angled, contract about 
> 5/16". So, effectively, the temperature loosens the stays for you. If that's 
> a concern for some reason.
> Jeff Laman
> 81 C
>  
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> From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 3:52:18 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Hoyt, Mike ; Robert Abbott 
> 
> Subject: Stus-List winter storage
>  
> The key to keeping mast up during winter is the cradlethe boats with 
> inadequate or damaged cradles are at risk.  I have seen several boats at my 
> club where the boats have toppled and it was the cradle that failed in every 
> instance.
> 
> And for loosening the rigging in winterno need if the rig is properly 
> tuned at storagebesides, as someone here mentioned, the aluminum mast 
> shrinks first in extreme cold.  
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32- #277
> halifax, N.S.
> 
> On 2023-10-18 11:19 a.m., Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in 
> > a winter storm.  He now has no mast.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat 
> > from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in 
> > three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Food for thought
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Mike Hoyt
> > 
> > Persistence
> > 
> > Halifax, NS
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Bob Mann via CnC-List  
> > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
> > To: Stus-List  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: Bob Mann  mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net
> > Subject: Stus-List winter storage
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those 
> > who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or 
> > do you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
> > ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those 
> > who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or 
> > do you loosen the shrouds for the winter?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Bob Mann
> > 
> > Mystic
> > 
> > 
> > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and 
> > help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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[Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List]

Aluminum coefficient of thermal expansion is about 13e-6 and SS about 6.5e-6. 
If the mast from keel to head is 50 ft, and temp change is 100 degrees F mast 
contracts about 3/4" and stays, which are shorter but angled, contract about 
5/16". So, effectively, the temperature loosens the stays for you. If that's a 
concern for some reason.
Jeff Laman
81 C

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From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 3:52:18 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike ; Robert Abbott 

Subject: Stus-List winter storage

The key to keeping mast up during winter is the cradlethe boats with 
inadequate or damaged cradles are at risk.  I have seen several boats at my 
club where the boats have toppled and it was the cradle that failed in every 
instance.

And for loosening the rigging in winterno need if the rig is properly tuned 
at storagebesides, as someone here mentioned, the aluminum mast shrinks 
first in extreme cold.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32- #277
halifax, N.S.

On 2023-10-18 11:19 a.m., Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:

Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
winter storm.  He now has no mast.



With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from 
blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three 
areas.  The boat was on a cradle.



Food for thought



Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS



From: Bob Mann via CnC-List 

Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List winter storage



Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter?



Bob Mann

Mystic



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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
winter storm.  He now has no mast.

With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from 
blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three 
areas.  The boat was on a cradle.

Food for thought

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter?

Bob Mann
Mystic
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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Good question.  Should you loosen the rig for winter storage?
I've been advised to leave the rig tension alone unless you cranked it up to 
banjo tight and can play tunes on it.  If you tensioned the rig for racing, you 
might want to remove any excessive tension, a turn, but unless it's bar tight, 
live it alone.  The reason given is that the aluminum mast will shrink more 
than the stainless rod during the colder temperatures.  
 
Chuck S
 
 

> On 10/18/2023 9:49 AM EDT Korbey Hunt via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> I keep my boat in Ketchikan Alaska all winter with a dehumidifier running.  I 
> remive the foresail and store in the cabin, cover main.   I have not adjusted 
> rigging.  I'm interested in seeing replys to this topic.
>  
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> From: Bob Mann via CnC-List 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:45:04 AM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Bob Mann 
> Subject: Stus-List winter storage
>  
> Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
> store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do 
> you loosen the shrouds for the winter?
>  
> Bob Mann
> Mystic
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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List]

Leave it. I assume you are concerned about creep of the rods? If so, any metal 
creep under load occurs in the very early stages. Regardless, the at rest load 
on the rigging is not at a level to cause any measurable creep
Jeff Laman
81 C
Ludington, Mi

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From: Bob Mann via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:45:04 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter?

Bob Mann
Mystic
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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

In my experience, loosening results in more shaking.  I keep mine tensioned, 
including about 500 psi on the backstay.

 

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 9:45 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? 

  

Bob Mann 

Mystic 

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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

I keep my boat in Ketchikan Alaska all winter with a dehumidifier running.  I 
remive the foresail and store in the cabin, cover main.   I have not adjusted 
rigging.  I'm interested in seeing replys to this topic.

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From: Bob Mann via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:45:04 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter?

Bob Mann
Mystic
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Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[David Swensen via CnC-List]

Danny,
You may want to give a call to Clarkes in Jamestown RI. My boat was there
when I bought it 3 years ago. They seemed reasonably priced and let me do
my own work.
David Swensen
Freya  35 MK3

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:20 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Andy,
>
> when are you going?  maybe I'll shadow you down!
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 15:17:50 -0400
>
> Well, I take my boat to Oxford, MD, a nice three day cruise away. Labor
> rates are cheaper and a friend owns a yard nearby.
>
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Sep 20, 2022, at 13:27, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a
> waiting list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...
>
> ------ Original Message --
> From: DJ via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: DJ 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400
>
>
> That's good info Neil,  thanks!
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
> Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat,
> could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a
> mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they
> didn't care what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner
> bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I guess.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
>
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to
> the house!
>
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts
> on that facility?
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Danny,
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine
> up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
> by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
> I'd like to protect.
>
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
> if possible.
>
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA
>
>

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I’ll be heading there between Oct 5 and 15, whenever there’s a weather window. 

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA 02840

+401 965 5260
https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/



> On Sep 21, 2022, at 11:19, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Andy,
>  
> when are you going?  maybe I'll shadow you down!
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 15:17:50 -0400
> 
> Well, I take my boat to Oxford, MD, a nice three day cruise away. Labor rates 
> are cheaper and a friend owns a yard nearby.
>  
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
>  
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> On Sep 20, 2022, at 13:27, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a waiting 
> list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...
> 
> ------ Original Message --
> From: DJ via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: DJ 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400
> 
>  
> 
> That's good info Neil,  thanks! 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
> Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
> launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more 
> than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care 
> what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  
> Use with caution, I guess.
> 
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
> 
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't 
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the 
> house!
>  
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on 
> that facility? 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny, 
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up 
> the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
> Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hello all, 
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere 
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too. 
>  
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy. 
> They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a 
> massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like 
> to protect. 
>  
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a 
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution 
> if possible. 
>  
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! 
>  
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I've been wintering with Safe harbor for about 5 years.  They never mention the 
benefits to me until I asked this past season... I'm waiting to hear back from 
the yard that stored for 3 winters and one summer (during covid, no launch)

-- Original Message --
From: JP Mail via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: JP Mail 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 15:25:15 -0400

Maybe a minor thread steal here but.. 
We keep Hideaway in a Safe Harbor in Stamford. We winter with safe harbor as 
well. Benefit-12 free nights at other Safe Harbors if you winter with them.
Sometimes a shuttle bus, pool and a restaurant are a good thing. 
Jon

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Andy, when are you going?  maybe I'll shadow you down!

-- Original Message --
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 15:17:50 -0400


Well, I take my boat to Oxford, MD, a nice three day cruise away. Labor rates 
are cheaper and a friend owns a yard nearby. Andy

Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA02840 
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260
On Sep 20, 2022, at 13:27, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
wrote:

Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a waiting 
list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...

-- Original Message --
From: DJ via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: DJ 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400

 
That's good info Neil,  thanks! 
On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
wrote:
My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more than 
50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care what you 
did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with 
caution, I guess.
 
 Neil Gallagher
 Weatherly, 35-1
 Glen Cove, NY
 
On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:No. I don't know 
anything about any of these yards except that they aren't owned by Safe 
Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton
 26 Beacon Hill
 Newport, RI
 USA 02840
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 phone  +401 965 5260
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient 
for winter work!  Close to the house! I was also considering somerset marina on 
the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? 
On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
wrote:
Danny, Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine 
up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
Safe Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton
 26 Beacon Hill
 Newport, RI
 USA 02840
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 phone  +401 965 5260
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:Hello all, Was wondering if anyone had any 
suggestions for winter storage somewhere around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay 
is an option too.  The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be 
a little clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and 
I've done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that 
I'd like to protect.  I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping 
it seems like a waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast 
up solution if possible.  Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!  DannyRum 
Runner IVT40Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Maybe a minor thread steal here but.. 
We keep Hideaway in a Safe Harbor in Stamford. We winter with safe harbor as 
well. Benefit-12 free nights at other Safe Harbors if you winter with them.
Sometimes a shuttle bus, pool and a restaurant are a good thing. 
Jon

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Well, I take my boat to Oxford, MD, a nice three day cruise away. Labor rates 
are cheaper and a friend owns a yard nearby.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Sep 20, 2022, at 13:27, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a waiting 
> list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: DJ via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: DJ 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400
> 
> That's good info Neil,  thanks! 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
> Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
> launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more 
> than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care 
> what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  
> Use with caution, I guess.
> 
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
> 
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't 
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the 
> house!
>  
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on 
> that facility? 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny, 
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up 
> the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
> Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hello all, 
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere 
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too. 
>  
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy. 
> They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a 
> massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like 
> to protect. 
>  
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a 
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution 
> if possible. 
>  
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! 
>  
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Todd Williams via CnC-List]

Is the lack of availability because of the Mattapoisett Boat Yard fire a
couple weeks ago? (I saw it on Boneheader Boaters of the Week, a great
YouTube channel!)

I moved to southern Maine this summer and there are no slips or moorings.
Most places estimate a 2 year waiting list. Portland Yacht Club is over 7
years wait, estimated. My C is still back in Sodus, NY. At least here
for winter storage it is common to just plop the boat down in your own
driveway. Using not-too-rusty jackstands, of course.

TODD

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 1:27 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a
> waiting list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: DJ via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: DJ 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400
>
> That's good info Neil,  thanks!
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
> Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat,
> could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a
> mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they
> didn't care what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner
> bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I guess.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
>
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/26+Beacon+Hill+Newport,+RI+USA+02840?entry=gmail=g>
> Newport, RI
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/26+Beacon+Hill+Newport,+RI+USA+02840?entry=gmail=g>
> USA 02840
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/26+Beacon+Hill+Newport,+RI+USA+02840?entry=gmail=g>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to
> the house!
>
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts
> on that facility?
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Danny,
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine
> up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
> by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/26+Beacon+Hill+Newport,+RI+USA+02840?entry=gmail=g>
> Newport, RI
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/26+Beacon+Hill+Newport,+RI+USA+02840?entry=gmail=g>
> USA 02840
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/26+Beacon+Hill+Newport,+RI+USA+02840?entry=gmail=g>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
> I'd like to protect.
>
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
> if possible.
>
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA
>
>

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Did you try Concordia in S. Dartmouth?  Not cheap and they don’t allow much 
work to be done by owners, but they have quite a bit of property.  
Chuck Gilchrest 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a waiting 
> list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: DJ via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: DJ 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400
> 
> That's good info Neil,  thanks! 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
> Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
> launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more 
> than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care 
> what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  
> Use with caution, I guess.
> 
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
> 
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't 
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the 
> house!
>  
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on 
> that facility? 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny, 
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up 
> the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
> Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hello all, 
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere 
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too. 
>  
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy. 
> They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a 
> massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like 
> to protect. 
>  
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a 
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution 
> if possible. 
>  
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! 
>  
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a waiting 
list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...

-- Original Message --
From: DJ via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: DJ 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400


That's good info Neil,  thanks! 
On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
wrote:
My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more than 
50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care what you 
did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with 
caution, I guess.
 
 Neil Gallagher
 Weatherly, 35-1
 Glen Cove, NY
 
On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:No. I don't know 
anything about any of these yards except that they aren't owned by Safe 
Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton
 26 Beacon Hill
 Newport, RI
 USA 02840
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 phone  +401 965 5260
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient 
for winter work!  Close to the house! I was also considering somerset marina on 
the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? 
On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
wrote:
Danny, Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine 
up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
Safe Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton
 26 Beacon Hill
 Newport, RI
 USA 02840
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 phone  +401 965 5260
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:Hello all, Was wondering if anyone had any 
suggestions for winter storage somewhere around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay 
is an option too.  The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be 
a little clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and 
I've done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that 
I'd like to protect.  I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping 
it seems like a waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast 
up solution if possible.  Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!  DannyRum 
Runner IVT40Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

And charged me for the rusty stand that went through the bottom of my boat!

*Chuck Borge*
*C 41*


On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 10:21 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Not only that but his was pushed over by the boats next to him that
> weren’t propped up properly AND the yard charged him $2500 to lift it
> upright again!
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Sep 19, 2022, at 09:59, David Risch via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yup…my buddy’s C & C 40 fell over there!
>
>
>
> *From:* DJ via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:07 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* DJ 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
>
>
>
> Yea, I've heard some horror stories about that place!
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:14 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> As always, avoid Borden Light Marine in Fall River. Worst yard I've
> ever seen
>
> Andy
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C96c3ab8da34043dbcded08da996e61eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637990996614134138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=naqaimk2P7JxNoI9PCp5En0lNZ%2BJ1kQECBJGpUMeFkg%3D=0>
>
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:05 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
> Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat,
> could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a
> mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they
> didn't care what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner
> bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I guess.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
>
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't
> owned by Safe Harbor.
>
> Andy
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C96c3ab8da34043dbcded08da996e61eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637990996614134138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=naqaimk2P7JxNoI9PCp5En0lNZ%2BJ1kQECBJGpUMeFkg%3D=0>
>
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to
> the house!
>
>
>
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts
> on that facility?
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Danny,
>
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine
> up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
> by Safe Harbor.
>
> Andy
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C96c3ab8da34043dbcded08da996e61eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637990996614134138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=naqaimk2P7JxNoI9PCp5En0lNZ%2BJ1kQECBJGpUMeFkg%3D=0>
>
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>
>
>
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
> I'd like to protect.
>
>
>
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
> if possible.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>
>
>
> Danny
>
> Rum Runner IV
>
> T40
>
> Mattapoisett MA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Not only that but his was pushed over by the boats next to him that weren’t 
propped up properly AND the yard charged him $2500 to lift it upright again!

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 09:59, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yup…my buddy’s C & C 40 fell over there!
>  
> From: DJ via CnC-List  
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:07 AM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: DJ 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
>  
> Yea, I've heard some horror stories about that place!  
>  
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:14 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> As always, avoid Borden Light Marine in Fall River. Worst yard I've ever seen
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
>  
>  
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:05 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
> Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
> launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more 
> than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care 
> what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  
> Use with caution, I guess.
> 
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
> 
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't 
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
>  
>  
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the 
> house!
>  
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on 
> that facility? 
>  
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny, 
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up 
> the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
> Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
>  
>  
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hello all, 
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere 
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too. 
>  
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy. 
> They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a 
> massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like 
> to protect. 
>  
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a 
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution 
> if possible. 
>  
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! 
>  
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA
>  
>  
>  

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Yup...my buddy's C & C 40 fell over there!

From: DJ via CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:07 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: DJ 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

Yea, I've heard some horror stories about that place!

On Sep 17, 2022 12:14 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
As always, avoid Borden Light Marine in Fall River. Worst yard I've ever seen
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C96c3ab8da34043dbcded08da996e61eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637990996614134138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=naqaimk2P7JxNoI9PCp5En0lNZ%2BJ1kQECBJGpUMeFkg%3D=0>

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:05 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more than 
50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care what you 
did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with 
caution, I guess.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY
On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't 
owned by Safe Harbor.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C96c3ab8da34043dbcded08da996e61eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637990996614134138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=naqaimk2P7JxNoI9PCp5En0lNZ%2BJ1kQECBJGpUMeFkg%3D=0>

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the 
house!

I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on 
that facility?

On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Danny,
Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up the 
Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by Safe 
Harbor.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C96c3ab8da34043dbcded08da996e61eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637990996614134138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=naqaimk2P7JxNoI9PCp5En0lNZ%2BJ1kQECBJGpUMeFkg%3D=0>

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello all,
Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere around 
Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.

The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy. 
They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a massive 
amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like to protect.

I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a waste 
of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution if 
possible.

Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!

Danny
Rum Runner IV
T40
Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[DJ via CnC-List]

That's good info Neil,  thanks! On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  wrote:
My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35'
sailboat, could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside
crane to hoist a mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a
good place for DIY, they didn't care what you did on the boat.  The
yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I
guess.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  No. I don't know anything about any of these yards
except that they aren't owned by Safe Harbor.
Andy

  

  

  

  
Andrew Burton
  26 Beacon Hill
  Newport, RI
  USA 02840
  http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

  phone  +401 965 5260
  

  

  

  
  

  
  
  
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49
  AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
  wrote:


  Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient
for winter work!  Close to the house!


I was also considering somerset marina on
  the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? 
  
  
On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew
  Burton via CnC-List 
  wrote:
  
Danny, 
  Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws,
O'connell's and Bristol Marine up the Taunton River.
I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
by Safe Harbor.
Andy

  

  

  

  
Andrew Burton
  26 Beacon Hill
  Newport, RI
  USA 02840
  http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

  phone  +401 965 5260
  

  

  

  
  

  



  On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny
Haughey via CnC-List 
wrote:
  
  
Hello all, 
  Was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions for winter storage somewhere around
Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option
too. 
  
  
  The yard I was using needs to drop
the mast and they can be a little clumsy.
They've damaged my boat several times in their
handling and I've done a massive amount of
cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
I'd like to protect. 
  
  
  I've also just completely rehabbed
the mast. So, dropping it seems like a waste of
effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find
a mast up solution if possible. 
  
  
  Thanks for any insights anyone can
offer! 
  
  
  Danny
  Rum Runner IV
  T40
  Mattapoisett MA

  

  


  

  


  

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[DJ via CnC-List]

Yea, I've heard some horror stories about that place!  On Sep 17, 2022 12:14 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  wrote:As always, avoid Borden Light Marine in Fall River. Worst yard I've ever seenAndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RIUSA 02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/phone  +401 965 5260On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:05 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  wrote:
  

  
  
My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35'
sailboat, could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside
crane to hoist a mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a
good place for DIY, they didn't care what you did on the boat.  The
yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I
guess.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  No. I don't know anything about any of these yards
except that they aren't owned by Safe Harbor.
Andy

  

  

  

  
Andrew Burton
  26 Beacon Hill
  Newport, RI
  USA 02840
  http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

  phone  +401 965 5260
  

  

  

  
  

  
  
  
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49
  AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
  wrote:


  Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient
for winter work!  Close to the house!


I was also considering somerset marina on
  the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? 
  
  
On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew
  Burton via CnC-List 
  wrote:
  
Danny, 
  Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws,
O'connell's and Bristol Marine up the Taunton River.
I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
by Safe Harbor.
Andy

  

  

  

  
Andrew Burton
  26 Beacon Hill
  Newport, RI
  USA 02840
  http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

  phone  +401 965 5260
  

  

  

  
  

  



  On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny
Haughey via CnC-List 
wrote:
  
  
Hello all, 
  Was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions for winter storage somewhere around
Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option
too. 
  
  
  The yard I was using needs to drop
the mast and they can be a little clumsy.
They've damaged my boat several times in their
handling and I've done a massive amount of
cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
I'd like to protect. 
  
  
  I've also just completely rehabbed
the mast. So, dropping it seems like a waste of
effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find
a mast up solution if possible. 
  
  
  Thanks for any insights anyone can
offer! 
  
  
  

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

As always, avoid Borden Light Marine in Fall River. Worst yard I've
ever seen
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:05 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
> Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat,
> could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a
> mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they
> didn't care what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner
> bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I guess.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
>
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to
>> the house!
>>
>> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any
>> thoughts on that facility?
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Danny,
>> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine
>> up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
>> by Safe Harbor.
>> Andy
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI
>> USA 02840
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>
>> phone  +401 965 5260
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
>> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>>
>> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
>> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
>> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
>> I'd like to protect.
>>
>> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
>> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
>> if possible.
>>
>> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>>
>> Danny
>> Rum Runner IV
>> T40
>> Mattapoisett MA
>>
>>
>>
>

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in 
Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' 
sailboat, could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside 
crane to hoist a mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good 
place for DIY, they didn't care what you did on the boat.  The yard crew 
was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I guess.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they 
aren't owned by Safe Harbor.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work! 
Close to the house!

I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any
thoughts on that facility?

On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Danny,
Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and
Bristol Marine up the Taunton River. I think everything else
in Narragansett Bay is owned by Safe Harbor.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hello all,
Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter
storage somewhere around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is
an option too.

The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can
be a little clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times
in their handling and I've done a massive amount of
cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like
to protect.

I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping
it seems like a waste of effort and cost right now. So,
I'd like to find a mast up solution if possible.

Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!

Danny
Rum Runner IV
T40
Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't
owned by Safe Harbor.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to
> the house!
>
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts
> on that facility?
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Danny,
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine
> up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
> by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
> I'd like to protect.
>
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
> if possible.
>
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the house!I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  wrote:Danny, Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by Safe Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RIUSA 02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/phone  +401 965 5260On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List  wrote:Hello all, Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere around Buzzards Bay.  Narragansett bay is an option too. The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy.  They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like to protect. I've also just completely rehabbed the mast.  So, dropping it seems like a waste of effort and cost right now.   So, I'd like to find a mast up solution if possible. Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! DannyRum Runner IVT40Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Danny,
Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up
the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by
Safe Harbor.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
> I'd like to protect.
>
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
> if possible.
>
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA
>