Stus-List stove cover heat shield

[Bob Mann via CnC-List]

My 35 mk I has a board that covers the stove/oven, and can be slid out of the 
way to use the stove.  The bottom of it is covered with what looks like 
aluminum foil, that is peeling off. What is this and how do I replace it?

Bob
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Stus-List Stove lock

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

My stove only has one lock. I attached an old pipe wrench to the bottom of the 
stove, it didn’t have enough stability to boil a big pot of water without some 
ballast.


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com


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[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

FWIW, my 3 burner F-10 only has a single lock on the right side.
2 is probably better than 1 but I never missed a left side lock—the boat was 
delivered with only the right lock.
I rarely use the stove and never when underway—in this situation,1 lock is 
plenty—although as a lefty, it would have been nice to have it on the left!!

Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C 36 XL/kcb


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[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I had a ton of fun bragging to a big steel ketch hove-to in 20 foot seas that 
not only were we going balls-out rail down with as much sail as the boat could 
handle, I was making pancakes for the whole crew on the griddle. This required 
two alcohol burners to be running. Everyone loved the hot breakfast.
They said something like “You are EATING???”
Karma is biatch, I paid a price for my cooking endeavor and King Neptune soon 
had my recycled breakfast ☹
Upon arrival in the USA that stove made a one-way trip to the dumpster!


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matt Wolford 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 10:18 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: wolf...@erie.net
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1

I was never a big fan of that smell.  Nothing better for a queasy 10-year old 
than to be directed by Dad to get something from down below in lumpy Lake Erie 
waves, and being greeted by that stale air / alcohol smell in the cabin.  
Nearly five decades later, and I remember it like it was yesterday.

From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 7:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1

A warning – anyone who still has a pressurized alcohol stove, please do not 
think “this is safe, water puts it out”. Sure water puts out SMALL alcohol 
fires. But small isn’t the issue, the problem is when a hose or fitting lets go 
and the whole tank of alcohol dumps into the cabin. This happened on the Great 
Ocean Race and the boat burned incredibly fast. It would have been 100% fatal 
except it happened in view of another couple of boats. They had no chance to 
get the life raft, it burned too. Essentially the crew ran through a flaming 
cabin and off the boat. Scroll down to the burning boat photo and you can read 
all about it:
http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/gor/GOR.html

We missed the excitement, we were far enough ahead of them to not see it.
Another thing is the smell. I can read a novel while standing on my head in the 
V-berth and eating spicy meatballs during a hurricane and feel just fine, but 
alcohol fumes make me very ill. YMMV


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com<http://www.dellabarba.com>


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[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

I was never a big fan of that smell.  Nothing better for a queasy 10-year old 
than to be directed by Dad to get something from down below in lumpy Lake Erie 
waves, and being greeted by that stale air / alcohol smell in the cabin.  
Nearly five decades later, and I remember it like it was yesterday.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 7:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1

 

A warning – anyone who still has a pressurized alcohol stove, please do not 
think “this is safe, water puts it out”. Sure water puts out SMALL alcohol 
fires. But small isn’t the issue, the problem is when a hose or fitting lets go 
and the whole tank of alcohol dumps into the cabin. This happened on the Great 
Ocean Race and the boat burned incredibly fast. It would have been 100% fatal 
except it happened in view of another couple of boats. They had no chance to 
get the life raft, it burned too. Essentially the crew ran through a flaming 
cabin and off the boat. Scroll down to the burning boat photo and you can read 
all about it:

http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/gor/GOR.html

 

We missed the excitement, we were far enough ahead of them to not see it. 

Another thing is the smell. I can read a novel while standing on my head in the 
V-berth and eating spicy meatballs during a hurricane and feel just fine, but 
alcohol fumes make me very ill. YMMV

 

 

Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com <http://www.dellabarba.com> 

 

 

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[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

A warning – anyone who still has a pressurized alcohol stove, please do not 
think “this is safe, water puts it out”. Sure water puts out SMALL alcohol 
fires. But small isn’t the issue, the problem is when a hose or fitting lets go 
and the whole tank of alcohol dumps into the cabin. This happened on the Great 
Ocean Race and the boat burned incredibly fast. It would have been 100% fatal 
except it happened in view of another couple of boats. They had no chance to 
get the life raft, it burned too. Essentially the crew ran through a flaming 
cabin and off the boat. Scroll down to the burning boat photo and you can read 
all about it:
http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/gor/GOR.html

We missed the excitement, we were far enough ahead of them to not see it.
Another thing is the smell. I can read a novel while standing on my head in the 
V-berth and eating spicy meatballs during a hurricane and feel just fine, but 
alcohol fumes make me very ill. YMMV


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com


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Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Yes I do have an adapter. I fill is about $2.50 or so at the CNG station at BWI 
☺
I am not sure I would do CNG over again starting from scratch, now in 2020 you 
can buy 10 pound aluminum propane tanks that can live on the stern rail and not 
rust. YMMV
Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com<http://www.dellabarba.com>


From: detroito91 [mailto:detroit...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 2:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1

And the question is...where do you refill the cng? Do you have one of the 
pressure adapters
Jim Schwartz
SEA YA !



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 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/10/20 1:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1

Yikes! I was SO glad to get that alcohol stove off the boat and into the 
dumpster. I think it was the single best boat improvement project ever for both 
comfort and safety. I have been using CNG for decades now.

Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com<http://www.dellabarba.com>




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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 1:29 PM
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Cc: Joel Delamirande 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1

And? You want to sell it

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:08 PM Hervey Machen via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
On the 1972 35MK 1 we have the alcohol stove.
Hervey Machen
72 35MK I
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And the question is...where do you refill the cng? Do you have one of the 
pressure adapters Jim Schwartz SEA YA !Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
smartphone
 Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 Date: 7/10/20  1:59 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Della Barba, Joe"  Subject: 
Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1 

Yikes! I was SO glad to get that alcohol stove off the boat and into the 
dumpster. I think it was the single best boat improvement project ever for both 
comfort
 and safety. I have been using CNG for decades now.
 
Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com
 
 
 
 
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On Behalf Of Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1
 


And? You want to sell it



 


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 wrote:



On the 1972 35MK 1 we have the alcohol stove.

Hervey Machen 


72 35MK I 


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[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Yikes! I was SO glad to get that alcohol stove off the boat and into the 
dumpster. I think it was the single best boat improvement project ever for both 
comfort and safety. I have been using CNG for decades now.

Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com




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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Stove 35MK 1

And? You want to sell it

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:08 PM Hervey Machen via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
On the 1972 35MK 1 we have the alcohol stove.
Hervey Machen
72 35MK I
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And? You want to sell it

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:08 PM Hervey Machen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> On the 1972 35MK 1 we have the alcohol stove.
> Hervey Machen
> 72 35MK I
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On the 1972 35MK 1 we have the alcohol stove.
Hervey Machen
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[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

Saw a great looking stainless steel stove sitting beside the dumpster at a 
marina in Florida last week. I was pretty excited until upon closer inspection 
it proved to be electric. 
Stinkpots...

Steve Thomas
C

 Chuck Saur via CnC-List  wrote: 
Neil, all, I am searching for a good stainless PROPANE oven/stove for my
35-3.  I tired of multiple attempts at torching my boat with the alcohol
model and de-fused the beast.   If yours (or anyone else?) is propane, in
good shape, and is for sale, could you let me know please?  Thanks!


*Chuck Saur*

(517)-490-5926


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[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Josh

If the other lister passes on it I’m interested

Joel

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:02 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have a Force 10, 3 burner and oven which I could be pursuaded to part
> with.  I've been eyeing a Wallas 87d diesel stove/oven/cabin heater for
> some time now.  I keep saying, "When the other one (Force 10) needs
> replaced "
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Dec 6, 2017 3:03 PM, "Chuck Saur via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
> Neil, all, I am searching for a good stainless PROPANE oven/stove for my
> 35-3.  I tired of multiple attempts at torching my boat with the alcohol
> model and de-fused the beast.   If yours (or anyone else?) is propane, in
> good shape, and is for sale, could you let me know please?  Thanks!
>
>
> *Chuck Saur*
>
> (517)-490-5926 <(517)%20490-5926>
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[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I have a Force 10, 3 burner and oven which I could be pursuaded to part
with.  I've been eyeing a Wallas 87d diesel stove/oven/cabin heater for
some time now.  I keep saying, "When the other one (Force 10) needs
replaced "

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Dec 6, 2017 3:03 PM, "Chuck Saur via CnC-List" 
wrote:

Neil, all, I am searching for a good stainless PROPANE oven/stove for my
35-3.  I tired of multiple attempts at torching my boat with the alcohol
model and de-fused the beast.   If yours (or anyone else?) is propane, in
good shape, and is for sale, could you let me know please?  Thanks!


*Chuck Saur*

(517)-490-5926 <(517)%20490-5926>

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[Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List]

Mine was alcohol which I deposited into a dumpster.  Still have the pressurized 
alcohol cylinder on the boat.  I’ll get around to removing it eventually  J

Neil 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Saur 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 3:02 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Saur
Subject: Stus-List Stove

 

Neil, all, I am searching for a good stainless PROPANE oven/stove for my 35-3.  
I tired of multiple attempts at torching my boat with the alcohol model and 
de-fused the beast.   If yours (or anyone else?) is propane, in good shape, and 
is for sale, could you let me know please?  Thanks!

 

 

Chuck Saur

 

(517)-490-5926

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[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Neil, all, I am searching for a good stainless PROPANE oven/stove for my
35-3.  I tired of multiple attempts at torching my boat with the alcohol
model and de-fused the beast.   If yours (or anyone else?) is propane, in
good shape, and is for sale, could you let me know please?  Thanks!


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[Kyle Davis via CnC-List]

Ok, thanks.

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Neil Andersen 
wrote:

> I took the oven out of my C 32.  I would much rather have a stove top on
> a gimbal, just need to find one that works with the space.
>
> Neil
> FoxFire
>
> 
>
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> 
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 
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I took the oven out of my C 32.  I would much rather have a stove top on a 
gimbal, just need to find one that works with the space.

Neil
FoxFire

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[Eric Cahn via CnC-List]

Most people don’t know that what’s known as “Natural Gas” is actually
composed of multiple gases: Propane, butane, ethane, and methane. Propane,
a part of “raw” natural gas, is separated from the other gas components
during processing at most gas facilities.

Since propane contains more than twice the energy of natural gas (one cubic
foot of propane = 2,516 BTUs, while one cubic foot of natural gas = 1,030
BTUs), it’s much more efficient than natural gas.

It's mildly lighter than propane alone, but does dissipate faster in air.


On Oct 28, 2017 7:02 PM, "John Pennie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

That is a good point Jack and thanks for reminding everyone.  Very easy to
let your guard down with these little butane canisters.

John


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> On Oct 28, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Natural gas is lighter than air, but both butane and propane are heavier.
>
> Steve Thomas
> C MKIII
>
>  "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I think butane is lighter than air (unlike propane), but I could be wrong.
>
> From: jackbrennan via CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: jackbrennan
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove
>
> I hope everyone using portable stoves fueled by butane or small propane
canisters is taking the appropriate safety precautions. Both types of
stoves can cause explosions.
>
> The canisters should not be stored inside the boat unless it is an
isolated locker with a drain to the outside.
>
> I keep mine, for a rail grill, in a large pvc pipe tied to the rail with
holes in the bottom for any stray gas to drain. A couple of years ago, a
canister malfunctioned.
>
> I was really happy it was not down below. It would have filled the boat
with propane..
>
> Jack Brennan
> Former C 25
> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
>
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[John Pennie via CnC-List]

That is a good point Jack and thanks for reminding everyone.  Very easy to let 
your guard down with these little butane canisters.

John


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> On Oct 28, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Natural gas is lighter than air, but both butane and propane are heavier.
> 
> Steve Thomas
> C MKIII
> 
>  "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
> I think butane is lighter than air (unlike propane), but I could be wrong.
> 
> From: jackbrennan via CnC-List 
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: jackbrennan 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove
> 
> I hope everyone using portable stoves fueled by butane or small propane 
> canisters is taking the appropriate safety precautions. Both types of stoves 
> can cause explosions.
> 
> The canisters should not be stored inside the boat unless it is an isolated 
> locker with a drain to the outside.
> 
> I keep mine, for a rail grill, in a large pvc pipe tied to the rail with 
> holes in the bottom for any stray gas to drain. A couple of years ago, a 
> canister malfunctioned. 
> 
> I was really happy it was not down below. It would have filled the boat with 
> propane..
> 
> Jack Brennan
> Former C 25
> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Eric Cahn via CnC-List]

I have a 1977 26. Mine came with a two burner alcohol stove starboard of
companion way and galley sink. I have the bolt on pot clamps and works
wonderfully, especially perking coffee. If you have to mount onehmm.
perhaps a gimbal one port side, forward of ice box.

On Oct 26, 2017 15:22, "Kyle Davis via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C 26. I have owned a Bayliner
> sailboat and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C, but
> I’m working on where to install a stove. I’m located in Washington State
> and coffee is a must. I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I
> could use a single burner. Just looking for advice and ideas.
>
> The boat has never had a name and I’m considering using my first
> grandson’s name, Killian.
>
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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

Natural gas is lighter than air, but both butane and propane are heavier.

Steve Thomas
C MKIII

 "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
I think butane is lighter than air (unlike propane), but I could be wrong.

From: jackbrennan via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: jackbrennan 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

I hope everyone using portable stoves fueled by butane or small propane 
canisters is taking the appropriate safety precautions. Both types of stoves 
can cause explosions.

The canisters should not be stored inside the boat unless it is an isolated 
locker with a drain to the outside.

I keep mine, for a rail grill, in a large pvc pipe tied to the rail with holes 
in the bottom for any stray gas to drain. A couple of years ago, a canister 
malfunctioned. 

I was really happy it was not down below. It would have filled the boat with 
propane..

Jack Brennan
Former C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.




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[jackbrennan via CnC-List]

Butane stoves apparently have a long history of exploding. Bad enough when 
you're camping. Much worse in your boat cabin when you're 10 miles offshore. 
There are videos online.

https://www.classaction.org/butane-stove-explosions

Jack Brennan



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 Original message 
From: "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Date:10/28/2017  2:38 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Matthew L. Wolford" <wolf...@erie.net> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 

I think butane is lighter than air (unlike propane), but I could be wrong.
 
From: jackbrennan via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: jackbrennan
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove
 
I hope everyone using portable stoves fueled by butane or small propane 
canisters is taking the appropriate safety precautions. Both types of stoves 
can cause explosions.
 
The canisters should not be stored inside the boat unless it is an isolated 
locker with a drain to the outside.
 
I keep mine, for a rail grill, in a large pvc pipe tied to the rail with holes 
in the bottom for any stray gas to drain. A couple of years ago, a canister 
malfunctioned.
 
I was really happy it was not down below. It would have filled the boat with 
propane..
 
Jack Brennan
Former C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.
 
 
 
 
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO I was really happy it was not down bekow.


 Original message 
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
Date:10/28/2017 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 

I use the oven often when cruising. There's nothing like waking up the mate 
with fresh baked muffins or scones in the morning! Even better when we're under 
way!
And pork tenderloins are relatively quick and easy to make. So is pizza. And I 
just found a great recipe for small potatoes baked with parmesan cheese and 
olive oil--goes great with steak...or the aforementioned pork...and a nice 
bottle of Bordeaux. And the broiler is excellent for toasting bagels. And I 
can't imagine re-heating Chinese food without an oven.
We don't "camp" aboard when we're cruising. We didn't have an oven and we 
missed it on the first Peregrine, a C 27 I grew up cruising on.
 
Andy
C 40
Peregrine
 
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I'm not sure how much space people are dealing with, but here's what I'm doing: 
my boat came with a clunky old (and bulletproof) stainless steel gimbaled 
stove/oven combination.  Rather than try to get it working, I place one of 
those butane units on top of the stove, and voila -- we can make coffee or soup 
at sea (which is all we ever use it for).

I have an upgrade in the works.  No one I know ever uses an oven, but owners of 
newer boats do use microwaves.  I may use a microwave, too, but only at the 
dock.  Force 10 makes (or at least made) a stainless steel gimbaled stove/oven 
combination unit, but instead of an oven it has a microwave shelf.  (It comes 
without the microwave, so finding the right size microwave can be a bit of a 
pain.)  Once I get it out of the basement and install it on the boat, it will 
provide the stove burners that I want using the old propane system (much of 
which is also being replaced), and I'll be able to microwave something quickly 
while at the dock.

That's my evil plan.  We'll see how it works out.

-Original Message- From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Steve Thomas
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove


I wish that those Forespar gimbaled stoves were still available. I am in the 
process now of converting an older version to accept modern propane cylinders. 
I spent several months on a boat that had one and weused it all the time, 
mainly for boiling water and making coffee. A good mounting spot is to a 1 by 6 
board bolted to the 1/2 bulkhead that forms one side of the galley on most 
boats.

Steve Thomas
C MKIII

 Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Forespar makes a nifty gimbled stove for small boats.  I like the idea of a 
gimble system since boats tend to move around beneath the stove, and hot fluids 
splashing all over the cabin are usually a bit messy and dangerous. This one 
uses the same propane cannisters as a Magna Grill or Lehr Propane outboard 
motor and can be purchased at any grocery or hardware store.



<https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122> 
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122

I used to use a wind proof butane Optimus backpacking stove when I had my C 
25 and it worked well, but the compressed gas cannisters are no longer 
available.



Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA




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Re: Stus-List Stove

[coltrek via CnC-List]

I just heard Duluth got 10 inches of snow and 100 mile-an-hour winds!.


Regards,
Bill

 Original message 
From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Date: 10/28/17  14:30  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 

I’m with Andy (no surprise, it happens pretty often…  :^)   We use our oven 
often, just not at the height of summer when it’s too hot both above- and 
belowdecks.  We do roasts, baked goods; all sorts of stuff.  I made some killer 
chocolate lava cakes a few years back.  In the cooler months, or when out on 
Lake Superior with its cold water year round, it helps to take the chill off 
the cabin.  And the smell of freshly-baked food is great, too!
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(



On Oct 28, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I use the oven often when cruising. There's nothing like waking up the mate 
with fresh baked muffins or scones in the morning! Even better when we're under 
way!And pork tenderloins are relatively quick and easy to make. So is pizza. 
And I just found a great recipe for small potatoes baked with parmesan cheese 
and olive oil--goes great with steak...or the aforementioned pork...and a nice 
bottle of Bordeaux. And the broiler is excellent for toasting bagels. And I 
can't imagine re-heating Chinese food without an oven.We don't "camp" aboard 
when we're cruising. We didn't have an oven and we missed it on the first 
Peregrine, a C 27 I grew up cruising on.
AndyC 40Peregrine
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[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

You guys are awesome.  Always good to see a different perspective.

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

I’m with Andy (no surprise, it happens pretty often…  :^)   We use our oven 
often, just not at the height of summer when it’s too hot both above- and 
belowdecks.  We do roasts, baked goods; all sorts of stuff.  I made some killer 
chocolate lava cakes a few years back.  In the cooler months, or when out on 
Lake Superior with its cold water year round, it helps to take the chill off 
the cabin.  And the smell of freshly-baked food is great, too! 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

  On Oct 28, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  I use the oven often when cruising. There's nothing like waking up the mate 
with fresh baked muffins or scones in the morning! Even better when we're under 
way!
  And pork tenderloins are relatively quick and easy to make. So is pizza. And 
I just found a great recipe for small potatoes baked with parmesan cheese and 
olive oil--goes great with steak...or the aforementioned pork...and a nice 
bottle of Bordeaux. And the broiler is excellent for toasting bagels. And I 
can't imagine re-heating Chinese food without an oven.
  We don't "camp" aboard when we're cruising. We didn't have an oven and we 
missed it on the first Peregrine, a C 27 I grew up cruising on.

  Andy
  C 40
  Peregrine




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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I think butane is lighter than air (unlike propane), but I could be wrong.

From: jackbrennan via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: jackbrennan 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

I hope everyone using portable stoves fueled by butane or small propane 
canisters is taking the appropriate safety precautions. Both types of stoves 
can cause explosions.

The canisters should not be stored inside the boat unless it is an isolated 
locker with a drain to the outside.

I keep mine, for a rail grill, in a large pvc pipe tied to the rail with holes 
in the bottom for any stray gas to drain. A couple of years ago, a canister 
malfunctioned. 

I was really happy it was not down below. It would have filled the boat with 
propane..

Jack Brennan
Former C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.




Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO I was really happy it was not down bekow.


 Original message 
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
Date:10/28/2017 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 


I use the oven often when cruising. There's nothing like waking up the mate 
with fresh baked muffins or scones in the morning! Even better when we're under 
way!
And pork tenderloins are relatively quick and easy to make. So is pizza. And I 
just found a great recipe for small potatoes baked with parmesan cheese and 
olive oil--goes great with steak...or the aforementioned pork...and a nice 
bottle of Bordeaux. And the broiler is excellent for toasting bagels. And I 
can't imagine re-heating Chinese food without an oven.
We don't "camp" aboard when we're cruising. We didn't have an oven and we 
missed it on the first Peregrine, a C 27 I grew up cruising on.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  I'm not sure how much space people are dealing with, but here's what I'm 
doing: my boat came with a clunky old (and bulletproof) stainless steel 
gimbaled stove/oven combination.  Rather than try to get it working, I place 
one of those butane units on top of the stove, and voila -- we can make coffee 
or soup at sea (which is all we ever use it for).

  I have an upgrade in the works.  No one I know ever uses an oven, but owners 
of newer boats do use microwaves.  I may use a microwave, too, but only at the 
dock.  Force 10 makes (or at least made) a stainless steel gimbaled stove/oven 
combination unit, but instead of an oven it has a microwave shelf.  (It comes 
without the microwave, so finding the right size microwave can be a bit of a 
pain.)  Once I get it out of the basement and install it on the boat, it will 
provide the stove burners that I want using the old propane system (much of 
which is also being replaced), and I'll be able to microwave something quickly 
while at the dock.

  That's my evil plan.  We'll see how it works out.

  -Original Message- From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List
  Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:24 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Steve Thomas
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 


  I wish that those Forespar gimbaled stoves were still available. I am in the 
process now of converting an older version to accept modern propane cylinders. 
I spent several months on a boat that had one and we used it all the time, 
mainly for boiling water and making coffee. A good mounting spot is to a 1 by 6 
board bolted to the 1/2 bulkhead that forms one side of the galley on most 
boats.

  Steve Thomas
  C MKIII

   Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
  Forespar makes a nifty gimbled stove for small boats.  I like the idea of a 
gimble system since boats tend to move around beneath the stove, and hot fluids 
splashing all over the cabin are usually a bit messy and dangerous. This one 
uses the same propane cannisters as a Magna Grill or Lehr Propane outboard 
motor and can be purchased at any grocery or hardware store.



  <https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122> 
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122

  I used to use a wind proof butane Optimus backpacking stove when I had my C 
25 and it worked well, but the compressed gas cannisters are no longer 
available.



  Chuck Gilchrest

  S/V Half Magic

  1983 Landfall 35

  Padanaram, MA




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Re: Stus-List Stove

[jackbrennan via CnC-List]

I hope everyone using portable stoves fueled by butane or small propane 
canisters is taking the appropriate safety precautions. Both types of stoves 
can cause explosions.

The canisters should not be stored inside the boat unless it is an isolated 
locker with a drain to the outside.

I keep mine, for a rail grill, in a large pvc pipe tied to the rail with holes 
in the bottom for any stray gas to drain. A couple of years ago, a canister 
malfunctioned. 

I was really happy it was not down below. It would have filled the boat with 
propane..

Jack Brennan
Former C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.




Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO I was really happy it was not down bekow.

 Original message 
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Date:10/28/2017  1:24 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 

I use the oven often when cruising. There's nothing like waking up the mate 
with fresh baked muffins or scones in the morning! Even better when we're under 
way!
And pork tenderloins are relatively quick and easy to make. So is pizza. And I 
just found a great recipe for small potatoes baked with parmesan cheese and 
olive oil--goes great with steak...or the aforementioned pork...and a nice 
bottle of Bordeaux. And the broiler is excellent for toasting bagels. And I 
can't imagine re-heating Chinese food without an oven.
We don't "camp" aboard when we're cruising. We didn't have an oven and we 
missed it on the first Peregrine, a C 27 I grew up cruising on.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I'm not sure how much space people are dealing with, but here's what I'm doing: 
my boat came with a clunky old (and bulletproof) stainless steel gimbaled 
stove/oven combination.  Rather than try to get it working, I place one of 
those butane units on top of the stove, and voila -- we can make coffee or soup 
at sea (which is all we ever use it for).

I have an upgrade in the works.  No one I know ever uses an oven, but owners of 
newer boats do use microwaves.  I may use a microwave, too, but only at the 
dock.  Force 10 makes (or at least made) a stainless steel gimbaled stove/oven 
combination unit, but instead of an oven it has a microwave shelf.  (It comes 
without the microwave, so finding the right size microwave can be a bit of a 
pain.)  Once I get it out of the basement and install it on the boat, it will 
provide the stove burners that I want using the old propane system (much of 
which is also being replaced), and I'll be able to microwave something quickly 
while at the dock.

That's my evil plan.  We'll see how it works out.

-Original Message- From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Steve Thomas
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove


I wish that those Forespar gimbaled stoves were still available. I am in the 
process now of converting an older version to accept modern propane cylinders. 
I spent several months on a boat that had one and we used it all the time, 
mainly for boiling water and making coffee. A good mounting spot is to a 1 by 6 
board bolted to the 1/2 bulkhead that forms one side of the galley on most 
boats.

Steve Thomas
C MKIII

 Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Forespar makes a nifty gimbled stove for small boats.  I like the idea of a 
gimble system since boats tend to move around beneath the stove, and hot fluids 
splashing all over the cabin are usually a bit messy and dangerous. This one 
uses the same propane cannisters as a Magna Grill or Lehr Propane outboard 
motor and can be purchased at any grocery or hardware store.



<https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122> 
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122

I used to use a wind proof butane Optimus backpacking stove when I had my C 
25 and it worked well, but the compressed gas cannisters are no longer 
available.



Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA




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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I’m with Andy (no surprise, it happens pretty often…  :^)   We use our oven 
often, just not at the height of summer when it’s too hot both above- and 
belowdecks.  We do roasts, baked goods; all sorts of stuff.  I made some killer 
chocolate lava cakes a few years back.  In the cooler months, or when out on 
Lake Superior with its cold water year round, it helps to take the chill off 
the cabin.  And the smell of freshly-baked food is great, too!

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I use the oven often when cruising. There's nothing like waking up the mate 
> with fresh baked muffins or scones in the morning! Even better when we're 
> under way!
> And pork tenderloins are relatively quick and easy to make. So is pizza. And 
> I just found a great recipe for small potatoes baked with parmesan cheese and 
> olive oil--goes great with steak...or the aforementioned pork...and a nice 
> bottle of Bordeaux. And the broiler is excellent for toasting bagels. And I 
> can't imagine re-heating Chinese food without an oven.
> We don't "camp" aboard when we're cruising. We didn't have an oven and we 
> missed it on the first Peregrine, a C 27 I grew up cruising on.
> 
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine

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[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I use the oven often when cruising. There's nothing like waking up the mate
with fresh baked muffins or scones in the morning! Even better when we're
under way!
And pork tenderloins are relatively quick and easy to make. So is pizza.
And I just found a great recipe for small potatoes baked with parmesan
cheese and olive oil--goes great with steak...or the aforementioned
pork...and a nice bottle of Bordeaux. And the broiler is excellent for
toasting bagels. And I can't imagine re-heating Chinese food without an
oven.
We don't "camp" aboard when we're cruising. We didn't have an oven and we
missed it on the first Peregrine, a C 27 I grew up cruising on.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure how much space people are dealing with, but here's what I'm
> doing: my boat came with a clunky old (and bulletproof) stainless steel
> gimbaled stove/oven combination.  Rather than try to get it working, I
> place one of those butane units on top of the stove, and voila -- we can
> make coffee or soup at sea (which is all we ever use it for).
>
> I have an upgrade in the works.  No one I know ever uses an oven, but
> owners of newer boats do use microwaves.  I may use a microwave, too, but
> only at the dock.  Force 10 makes (or at least made) a stainless steel
> gimbaled stove/oven combination unit, but instead of an oven it has a
> microwave shelf.  (It comes without the microwave, so finding the right
> size microwave can be a bit of a pain.)  Once I get it out of the basement
> and install it on the boat, it will provide the stove burners that I want
> using the old propane system (much of which is also being replaced), and
> I'll be able to microwave something quickly while at the dock.
>
> That's my evil plan.  We'll see how it works out.
>
> -Original Message- From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:24 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Steve Thomas
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove
>
>
> I wish that those Forespar gimbaled stoves were still available. I am in
> the process now of converting an older version to accept modern propane
> cylinders. I spent several months on a boat that had one and we used it all
> the time, mainly for boiling water and making coffee. A good mounting spot
> is to a 1 by 6 board bolted to the 1/2 bulkhead that forms one side of the
> galley on most boats.
>
> Steve Thomas
> C MKIII
>
>  Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Forespar makes a nifty gimbled stove for small boats.  I like the idea of
> a gimble system since boats tend to move around beneath the stove, and hot
> fluids splashing all over the cabin are usually a bit messy and dangerous.
> This one uses the same propane cannisters as a Magna Grill or Lehr Propane
> outboard motor and can be purchased at any grocery or hardware store.
>
>
>
> <https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_
> product.do?pid=14122> https://www.jamestowndistribut
> ors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122
>
> I used to use a wind proof butane Optimus backpacking stove when I had my
> C 25 and it worked well, but the compressed gas cannisters are no longer
> available.
>
>
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V Half Magic
>
> 1983 Landfall 35
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
>
>
>
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[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Force 10 still makes the combo unit:

http://www.force10.com/combo.html

-Original Message- 
From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

I'm not sure how much space people are dealing with, but here's what I'm
doing: my boat came with a clunky old (and bulletproof) stainless steel
gimbaled stove/oven combination.  Rather than try to get it working, I place
one of those butane units on top of the stove, and voila -- we can make
coffee or soup at sea (which is all we ever use it for).

I have an upgrade in the works.  No one I know ever uses an oven, but owners
of newer boats do use microwaves.  I may use a microwave, too, but only at
the dock.  Force 10 makes (or at least made) a stainless steel gimbaled
stove/oven combination unit, but instead of an oven it has a microwave
shelf.  (It comes without the microwave, so finding the right size microwave
can be a bit of a pain.)  Once I get it out of the basement and install it
on the boat, it will provide the stove burners that I want using the old
propane system (much of which is also being replaced), and I'll be able to
microwave something quickly while at the dock.

That's my evil plan.  We'll see how it works out.

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Steve Thomas
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

I wish that those Forespar gimbaled stoves were still available. I am in the
process now of converting an older version to accept modern propane
cylinders. I spent several months on a boat that had one and we used it all
the time, mainly for boiling water and making coffee. A good mounting spot
is to a 1 by 6 board bolted to the 1/2 bulkhead that forms one side of the
galley on most boats.

Steve Thomas
C MKIII

 Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Forespar makes a nifty gimbled stove for small boats.  I like the idea of a
gimble system since boats tend to move around beneath the stove, and hot
fluids splashing all over the cabin are usually a bit messy and dangerous.
This one uses the same propane cannisters as a Magna Grill or Lehr Propane
outboard motor and can be purchased at any grocery or hardware store.



<https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122>
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122

I used to use a wind proof butane Optimus backpacking stove when I had my
C 25 and it worked well, but the compressed gas cannisters are no longer
available.



Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA




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[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I'm not sure how much space people are dealing with, but here's what I'm 
doing: my boat came with a clunky old (and bulletproof) stainless steel 
gimbaled stove/oven combination.  Rather than try to get it working, I place 
one of those butane units on top of the stove, and voila -- we can make 
coffee or soup at sea (which is all we ever use it for).


I have an upgrade in the works.  No one I know ever uses an oven, but owners 
of newer boats do use microwaves.  I may use a microwave, too, but only at 
the dock.  Force 10 makes (or at least made) a stainless steel gimbaled 
stove/oven combination unit, but instead of an oven it has a microwave 
shelf.  (It comes without the microwave, so finding the right size microwave 
can be a bit of a pain.)  Once I get it out of the basement and install it 
on the boat, it will provide the stove burners that I want using the old 
propane system (much of which is also being replaced), and I'll be able to 
microwave something quickly while at the dock.


That's my evil plan.  We'll see how it works out.

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Steve Thomas
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

I wish that those Forespar gimbaled stoves were still available. I am in the 
process now of converting an older version to accept modern propane 
cylinders. I spent several months on a boat that had one and we used it all 
the time, mainly for boiling water and making coffee. A good mounting spot 
is to a 1 by 6 board bolted to the 1/2 bulkhead that forms one side of the 
galley on most boats.


Steve Thomas
C MKIII

 Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Forespar makes a nifty gimbled stove for small boats.  I like the idea of a 
gimble system since boats tend to move around beneath the stove, and hot 
fluids splashing all over the cabin are usually a bit messy and dangerous. 
This one uses the same propane cannisters as a Magna Grill or Lehr Propane 
outboard motor and can be purchased at any grocery or hardware store.




<https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122> 
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122


I used to use a wind proof butane Optimus backpacking stove when I had my 
C 25 and it worked well, but the compressed gas cannisters are no longer 
available.




Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA




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[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

I wish that those Forespar gimbaled stoves were still available. I am in the 
process now of converting an older version to accept modern propane cylinders. 
I spent several months on a boat that had one and we used it all the time, 
mainly for boiling water and making coffee. A good mounting spot is to a 1 by 6 
board bolted to the 1/2 bulkhead that forms one side of the galley on most 
boats. 

Steve Thomas
C MKIII

 Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List  wrote: 
Forespar makes a nifty gimbled stove for small boats.  I like the idea of a 
gimble system since boats tend to move around beneath the stove, and hot fluids 
splashing all over the cabin are usually a bit messy and dangerous.  This one 
uses the same propane cannisters as a Magna Grill or Lehr Propane outboard 
motor and can be purchased at any grocery or hardware store.

 

  
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122

I used to use a wind proof butane Optimus backpacking stove when I had my C 
25 and it worked well, but the compressed gas cannisters are no longer 
available.

 

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA

 


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[Joseph Bognar via CnC-List]

Kyle : Do not waste your time on a stove . I have a 30 and I never use the 
stove . I have two of those Butane single burner gas stoves that come in a case 
. They work perfect . Around $20 if you can find them on sale . 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On Oct 26, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Kyle Davis via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C 26. I have owned a Bayliner sailboat 
> and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C, but I’m working 
> on where to install a stove. I’m located in Washington State and coffee is a 
> must. I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I could use a 
> single burner. Just looking for advice and ideas. 
> 
> The boat has never had a name and I’m considering using my first grandson’s 
> name, Killian. 
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[John Pennie via CnC-List]

I’d 2nd that.  We have a little Pearson 27 that we keep for day sailing and we 
just went with a little butane 1 burner for the occasional weekend and, my 
case, tea.

John


Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Bill Dakin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> How about this one...
> http://www.coleman.com/butane-stove/220951.html?cgid=coleman-stovesandgrills#pmax=25=0=1
> 
> Bill Dakin
> S/V Tapestry
> 25MKII
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Kyle Davis via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C 26. I have owned a Bayliner 
>> sailboat and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C, but 
>> I’m working on where to install a stove. I’m located in Washington State and 
>> coffee is a must. I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I 
>> could use a single burner. Just looking for advice and ideas. 
>> 
>> The boat has never had a name and I’m considering using my first grandson’s 
>> name, Killian. 
>> 
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[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Forespar makes a nifty gimbled stove for small boats.  I like the idea of a 
gimble system since boats tend to move around beneath the stove, and hot fluids 
splashing all over the cabin are usually a bit messy and dangerous.  This one 
uses the same propane cannisters as a Magna Grill or Lehr Propane outboard 
motor and can be purchased at any grocery or hardware store.

 

 <https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122> 
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=14122

I used to use a wind proof butane Optimus backpacking stove when I had my C 
25 and it worked well, but the compressed gas cannisters are no longer 
available.

 

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Dakin 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:49 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Dakin <aussiebr...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

How about this one...

http://www.coleman.com/butane-stove/220951.html?cgid=coleman-stovesandgrills#pmax=25
 
<http://www.coleman.com/butane-stove/220951.html?cgid=coleman-stovesandgrills#pmax=25=0=1>
 =0=1

 

Bill Dakin

S/V Tapestry

25MKII

 

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Kyle Davis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C 26. I have owned a Bayliner sailboat 
and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C, but I’m working on 
where to install a stove. I’m located in Washington State and coffee is a must. 
I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I could use a single 
burner. Just looking for advice and ideas. 

 

The boat has never had a name and I’m considering using my first grandson’s 
name, Killian. 


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[John McKay via CnC-List]

I use one of those ButaneThey are light and compactIt has been on the cabin 
sole many times and keeps working. I have now bolted it down.
The one draw back I find is that it is very hot. I had it on low one time 
heating pork and beans and I was on the bow talking to a fellow boater. Went 
back into the cabin and they were severally baked beans. I just threw the pot 
out. Great for the price, don't leave unattended.
John on EnterpriseC 33 MK IIKomoka Ontario
 

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:50 PM, Bill Dakin via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 How about this 
one...http://www.coleman.com/butane-stove/220951.html?cgid=coleman-stovesandgrills#pmax=25=0=1

Bill DakinS/V Tapestry25MKII
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Kyle Davis via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C 26. I have owned a Bayliner sailboat 
and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C, but I’m working on 
where to install a stove. I’m located in Washington State and coffee is a must. 
I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I could use a single 
burner. Just looking for advice and ideas. 
The boat has never had a name and I’m considering using my first grandson’s 
name, Killian. 
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[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

Kyle,
I’’eve got a 1977 C 26 and the boat came originally with a stove.
I’ve since replaced it with a 2 burner Force 10 propane stove which fitted 
right in the hole, almost exactly.
It was located (by C) outboard of the sink on the other part of the “L” on 
the starboard side. Long side running fore and aft.
I could probably get a pic next time I’m out at the boat.

sam
C 26  Liquorice 
Ghost Lake Alberta 


> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Bill Dakin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> How about this one...
> http://www.coleman.com/butane-stove/220951.html?cgid=coleman-stovesandgrills#pmax=25=0=1
> 
> Bill Dakin
> S/V Tapestry
> 25MKII
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Kyle Davis via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C 26. I have owned a Bayliner 
>> sailboat and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C, but 
>> I’m working on where to install a stove. I’m located in Washington State and 
>> coffee is a must. I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I 
>> could use a single burner. Just looking for advice and ideas. 
>> 
>> The boat has never had a name and I’m considering using my first grandson’s 
>> name, Killian. 
>> 
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[Bill Dakin via CnC-List]

How about this one...
http://www.coleman.com/butane-stove/220951.html?cgid=coleman-stovesandgrills#pmax=25=0=1

Bill Dakin
S/V Tapestry
25MKII

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Kyle Davis via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C 26. I have owned a Bayliner
> sailboat and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C, but
> I’m working on where to install a stove. I’m located in Washington State
> and coffee is a must. I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I
> could use a single burner. Just looking for advice and ideas.
>
> The boat has never had a name and I’m considering using my first
> grandson’s name, Killian.
>
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Stus-List Stove

[Kyle Davis via CnC-List]

Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C 26. I have owned a Bayliner
sailboat and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C, but
I’m working on where to install a stove. I’m located in Washington State
and coffee is a must. I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I
could use a single burner. Just looking for advice and ideas.

The boat has never had a name and I’m considering using my first grandson’s
name, Killian.
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[Burt Stratton via CnC-List]

Which stove won

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via 
CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:51 PM
To: Joe Della Barba; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

25 years ago, my family had a big party with lobster for twenty people.  To 
cook all that lobster at one time, my father-in-law got all of his boat and 
camping stoves together in the kitchen and had an impromptu race to boil water 
to cook the twenty 1.5# lobster.  We had a kerosene stove and an alcohol stove 
and white gas camping stove, and also used the house's natural gas stove.  It 
was fun to learn how to safely light all of these different kinds and with 
various sized pots we had a totally uncontrolled experiment, but a lot of fun.  
We waited for all of the pots to be boiling, and then steamed the lobster and 
had an amazing dinner laughing about our crazy test.   I think all cook w fire 
equipment can be used safely, if used properly.

 

Chuck

 

 

 

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From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 8:01:33 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

Have you ever actually tried that?

Any significant pressure leak and you won’t be able to get anyplace near the 
stove.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com

Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John Irvin 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 10:17 PM
To: Bill Bina - gmail; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

Alcohol stove fires can easily be extinguished with water
Surely a plus.

  _  

From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎06 11:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure a 
boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers, and 
those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the hot 
items they look for in the insurance survey. 

 

The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences. 

 

Bill Bina

On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List wrote:

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

 

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.

Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

 

John from Enterprise

 

 


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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

25 years ago, my family had a big party with lobster for twenty people. To cook 
all that lobster at one time, my father-in-law got all of his boat and camping 
stoves together in the kitchen and had an impromptu race to boil water to cook 
the twenty 1.5# lobster. We had a kerosene stove and an alcohol stove and white 
gas camping stove, and also used the house's natural gas stove. It was fun to 
learn how to safely light all of these different kinds and with various sized 
pots we had a totally uncontrolled experiment, but a lot of fun. We waited for 
all of the pots to be boiling, and then steamed the lobster and had an amazing 
dinner laughing about our crazy test. I think all cook w fire equipment can be 
used safely, if used properly. 

Chuck 



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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 8:01:33 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 



Have you ever actually tried that? 

Any significant pressure leak and you won’t be able to get anyplace near the 
stove. 






Joe Della Barba 


j...@dellabarba.com 


Coquina 


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John Irvin 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 10:17 PM 
To: Bill Bina - gmail; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 





Alcohol stove fires can easily be extinguished with water 
Surely a plus. 



From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎06 11:55 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove 


You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure a 
boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers, and 
those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the hot 
items they look for in the insurance survey. 

The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences. 

Bill Bina 




On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List wrote: 





An question from another new CC 33 MK II owner. 





I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this. 


Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated 





John from Enterprise 








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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Burt Stratton via CnC-List]

I am surprised by the complaints about alcohol stove performance. My little one 
burner non pressurized Electrolux works great! The flame stabilizes very 
quickly when it warms up. Not much of a problem with handling a reasonable 
draft and gets my 12-cup percolator perking very quickly. IMO it is safer than 
propane for a variety of reasons and since my stove is directly under my 
companionway hatch it is easy to vent the moist air created by the stove. Also 
very efficient. 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via 
CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:51 PM
To: Joe Della Barba; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

25 years ago, my family had a big party with lobster for twenty people.  To 
cook all that lobster at one time, my father-in-law got all of his boat and 
camping stoves together in the kitchen and had an impromptu race to boil water 
to cook the twenty 1.5# lobster.  We had a kerosene stove and an alcohol stove 
and white gas camping stove, and also used the house's natural gas stove.  It 
was fun to learn how to safely light all of these different kinds and with 
various sized pots we had a totally uncontrolled experiment, but a lot of fun.  
We waited for all of the pots to be boiling, and then steamed the lobster and 
had an amazing dinner laughing about our crazy test.   I think all cook w fire 
equipment can be used safely, if used properly.

 

Chuck

 

 

 

  _  

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 8:01:33 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

Have you ever actually tried that?

Any significant pressure leak and you won’t be able to get anyplace near the 
stove.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com

Coquina

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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 10:17 PM
To: Bill Bina - gmail; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

Alcohol stove fires can easily be extinguished with water
Surely a plus.

  _  

From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎06 11:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure a 
boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers, and 
those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the hot 
items they look for in the insurance survey. 

 

The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences. 

 

Bill Bina

On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List wrote:

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

 

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.

Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

 

John from Enterprise

 

 


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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

I would imagine that a fire being fed by a pressured fuel leak of any kind 
would be difficult to extinguish. Propane is certainly not intrinsically better 
in that regard, and if it is safer in practice then it must be due to either 
better engineering, better operator competence, or both. Practically everyone 
who would purchase a sailboat has at least some experience with propane, and 
hopefully then at least some respect for its hazards.  Not so much for alcohol. 

I lived for a month on a boat with an Origo non pressurized stove, and found 
the low heat and very poor resistance to drafts to be major flaws. I had flame 
shooting out from under a pot for several inches due to drafts with that stove. 
That was dangerous. The pressurized stoves, no matter what the fuel, are better 
at keeping the flame at the burner. I am only talking about stove top burners, 
my only experience with ovens on a sailboat is with propane, and that was 
limited. 

I just purchased a propane stove for my 27, but I do not regard it as a safer 
device than the Kenyon alcohol stove I have been using. It was the simplicity 
of operation that drove my decision. I still consider propane to be more 
hazardous a fuel to carry on a sailboat than alcohol, but I am willing to 
accept the added risk and necessarily more complicated fuel system engineering 
in order to have a better stove. 

Steve Thomas
CC27 MKIII
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 08:01
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove


  Have you ever actually tried that?

  Any significant pressure leak and you won’t be able to get anyplace near the 
stove.

   

   

  Joe Della Barba

  j...@dellabarba.com

  Coquina

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John Irvin 
via CnC-List
  Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 10:17 PM
  To: Bill Bina - gmail; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

   

  Alcohol stove fires can easily be extinguished with water
  Surely a plus.


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  From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
  Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎06 11:55 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

  You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure 
a boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers, and 
those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the hot 
items they look for in the insurance survey. 

  The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences. 

  Bill Bina

  On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List wrote:

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

 

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure 
alcohol stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but 
not adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. 
Made an easy decision to scrap this.

Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

 

John from Enterprise

 

   



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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Have you ever actually tried that?

Any significant pressure leak and you won’t be able to get anyplace near the 
stove.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com 

Coquina

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 10:17 PM
To: Bill Bina - gmail; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

Alcohol stove fires can easily be extinguished with water
Surely a plus.

  _  

From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎06 11:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure a 
boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers, and 
those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the hot 
items they look for in the insurance survey. 

The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences. 

Bill Bina

On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List wrote:

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

 

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.

Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

 

John from Enterprise

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Bill Bina via CnC-List]

  
  
There is a reason that although there
  are plenty of non-pressurized stoves still made, nobody makes
  pressurized models any longer. They have a bad track record.
  Companies do not want to be sued for making and selling a product
  known to be problematic. That is the bottom line. BoatUS has
  written about the problems. Pressurized alcohol stoves are
  responsible for more than their fair share of boat fires when
  compared to all other stoves, and fire safety in general. This is
  not a secret that I am revealing for the first time from a
  mysterious cave in the mountains. 
  :-) 
  
  Bill Bina
  
  On 3/6/2015 10:16 PM, John Irvin wrote:


  
  
Alcohol
  stove fires can easily be extinguished with water
  Surely a plus.
  
  
From: Bill
Bina - gmail via CnC-List
Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎06 11:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

  
  You would have also discovered
  that many insurance companies will not insure a boat with a
  pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers,
  and those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It
  is one of the "hot" items they look for in the insurance
  survey. 
  
  The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are
  virtually invisible, which can also lead to unintended
  consequences. 
  
  Bill Bina

  On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via
CnC-List wrote:
  
  

   An
question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.
  
  
  I have been trying to get the original
Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol stove working, and it
scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns
about 8" high. Made an easy decision to scrap this.
  Any suggestions about a new stove top would be
appreciated
  
  
  John from Enterprise


  
  


  


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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Bill Bina via CnC-List]

  
  
The key word that keeps getting overlooked in many
  response to this thread is P R E S S U R I Z E D. 
  Pressurized alcohol stoves are notorious for causing boat and
  RV fires, which is why insurance companies do not like them,
  and new boats or RV's do not have them, even as an option. 
  
  Non-pressurized alcohol stoves such as the Origo are a very
  different animal as far as safety, and insurance companies
  policies.
  
  Bill Bina
  
  On 3/7/2015 3:50 PM, robert via CnC-List wrote:


  
  Interesting discussion on 'stoves'.. which were designed for
  cooking.  
  
  However, I will confess that after 8 years, I have used my 2
  burner Origo non-pressurized alcohol stove to heat the cabin and
  make me comfortable while swinging on the mooring than I have used
  to make coffee.  And it is so simple.
  
  Did a Marblehead - Halifax race on a 1985 CC 33 MKII and the
  only heat we had was when the propane stove and/or oven was going
  to cook.  When I am in the dark, in the middle of the Bay of Fundy
  at 3:00 am shift change, it's wet and cold, I am wet and
  cold..I really could care less what type of heat I am getting
  as long as I am getting heat and I can get dry.  Then I can look
  forward to a hot coffee and hot meal and what the stove was
  designed for.  
  
  BTW, the 33 stove/oven was propanewe had 2 full 10 lb. tanks,
  and we needed all of the 2 tanks..especially when we were
  making excuses to make coffee just to get some heat.  We installed
  a new 'propane detection monitor' very low in the boat before the
  race and had all connections and hoses checked.
  
  The 'stove thread' caused me to read my recent 'boat survey' 
  .the surveyor noted that the stove was "Origo" but did not
  state how it was fueled.  Probably doesn't matter to the insurance
  company whether I am using the stove to heat my cabin or make
  coffee.
  
  Rob Abbott
  AZURA
  CC 32 - 84
  Halifax, N.S. 
  
  
  On 2015-03-07 2:10 PM, Burt Stratton
via CnC-List wrote:
  
  





  I
  am surprised by the complaints about alcohol stove
  performance. My little one burner non pressurized
  Electrolux works great! The flame stabilizes very quickly
  when it warms up. Not much of a problem with handling a
  reasonable draft and gets my 12-cup percolator perking
  very quickly. IMO it is safer than propane for a variety
  of reasons and since my stove is directly under my
  companionway hatch it is easy to vent the moist air
  created by the stove. Also very efficient. 
   
   
 



  From:

  "Joe

  Della Barba via CnC-List" cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 8:01:33 AM
      Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove
  
 
  
  Have

  you ever actually tried that?
  Any

  significant pressure leak and you won’t be able to get
  anyplace near the stove.
   
   
  

  

  


  


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Stus-List Stove

[robert via CnC-List]

Interesting discussion on 'stoves'.. which were designed for cooking.

However, I will confess that after 8 years, I have used my 2 burner 
Origo non-pressurized alcohol stove to heat the cabin and make me 
comfortable while swinging on the mooring than I have used to make 
coffee.  And it is so simple.


Did a Marblehead - Halifax race on a 1985 CC 33 MKII and the only heat 
we had was when the propane stove and/or oven was going to cook.  When I 
am in the dark, in the middle of the Bay of Fundy at 3:00 am shift 
change, it's wet and cold, I am wet and cold..I really could care 
less what type of heat I am getting as long as I am getting heat and I 
can get dry.  Then I can look forward to a hot coffee and hot meal and 
what the stove was designed for.


BTW, the 33 stove/oven was propanewe had 2 full 10 lb. tanks, and we 
needed all of the 2 tanks..especially when we were making excuses to 
make coffee just to get some heat.  We installed a new 'propane 
detection monitor' very low in the boat before the race and had all 
connections and hoses checked.


The 'stove thread' caused me to read my recent 'boat survey' .the 
surveyor noted that the stove was Origo but did not state how it was 
fueled.  Probably doesn't matter to the insurance company whether I am 
using the stove to heat my cabin or make coffee.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2015-03-07 2:10 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List wrote:


I am surprised by the complaints about alcohol stove performance. My 
little one burner non pressurized Electrolux works great! The flame 
stabilizes very quickly when it warms up. Not much of a problem with 
handling a reasonable draft and gets my 12-cup percolator perking very 
quickly. IMO it is safer than propane for a variety of reasons and 
since my stove is directly under my companionway hatch it is easy to 
vent the moist air created by the stove. Also very efficient.


*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Chuck S via CnC-List

*Sent:* Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:51 PM
*To:* Joe Della Barba; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stove

25 years ago, my family had a big party with lobster for twenty 
people.  To cook all that lobster at one time, my father-in-law got 
all of his boat and camping stoves together in the kitchen and had an 
impromptu race to boil water to cook the twenty 1.5# lobster.  We had 
a kerosene stove and an alcohol stove and white gas camping stove, and 
also used the house's natural gas stove.  It was fun to learn how to 
safely light all of these different kinds and with various sized pots 
we had a totally uncontrolled experiment, but a lot of fun.  We waited 
for all of the pots to be boiling, and then steamed the lobster and 
had an amazing dinner laughing about our crazy test.   I think all 
cook w fire equipment can be used safely, if used properly.


Chuck



*From: *Joe Della Barba via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com

*To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Sent: *Saturday, March 7, 2015 8:01:33 AM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List Stove

Have you ever actually tried that?

Any significant pressure leak and you won’t be able to get anyplace 
near the stove.


Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com

Coquina

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*John Irvin via CnC-List

*Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2015 10:17 PM
*To:* Bill Bina - gmail; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com

*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stove

Alcohol stove fires can easily be extinguished with water
Surely a plus.



*From: *Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Sent: *‎2015-‎03-‎06 11:55 AM
*To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List Stove

You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not 
insure a boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by 
the numbers, and those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. 
It is one of the hot items they look for in the insurance survey.


The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences.


Bill Bina

On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List wrote:

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner
pressure alcohol stove working, and it scares me. One burner
lights, flame is blue but not adjustable. The other sounds like a
jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an easy decision to scrap
this.

Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

John from Enterprise


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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Jack Brennan via CnC-List]

I think it differs from insurance company to insurance company.

My current company, Progressive, does not ask about stoves and in fact does not 
require surveys. However, it likes you to have a stake in the game with high 
deductibles and relatively low upper limits. (It used to be 15-20K. I don’t 
know what it is now.) If you try for a low deductible, the rate goes way up.

Years ago, When I had BoatUS, I don’t remember being asked about the stove.

Jack Brennan
Former CC 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.


From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 5:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

I have no idea if my insurance company has a clue what kind of stove I have.



Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com



Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 5:07 PM
To: jtsails; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove



Yes, really.  This is no special secret that only I know about. Perhaps your 
premium is higher than it would have been otherwise, or whomever processed your 
application hadn't gotten the memo. You represent a pretty small sample group. 
:-)

Bill Bina

On 3/6/2015 4:52 PM, jtsails wrote:



  Really Bill? I had no trouble getting insurance on my boat. And I not only 
have a pressurized alcohol stove, but an Atomic four as well!

  James

  CC 38 Mk2

  Oriental, NC



  From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List

  Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM

  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove



  You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure 
a boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers, and 
those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the hot 
items they look for in the insurance survey.

  The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences.

  Bill Bina






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Re: Stus-List Stove

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Alcohol stove fires can easily be extinguished with water
Surely a plus.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎06 11:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure a 
boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers, and 
those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the hot 
items they look for in the insurance survey. 

The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences. 

Bill Bina


On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List wrote:

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.


I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.
Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated


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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Bill Bina via CnC-List]

  
  
They don't ask you what kind of stove
  you have. It is something they discern from the insurance survey.
  I started out by carefully saying that MANY insurance companies
  have a problem with pressurized alcohol stoves. That is a well
  known fact. I did not say all insurance companies refuse policies
  or raise premiums. Many do, but like anything, some don't.
  Pressurized alcohol stoves are recognized in insuranace circles as
  a high risk device that has resulted in a lot of claims. Insurance
  companies don't have emotions or unfounded opinions. All they care
  about is the numbers. 
  
  Bill Bina
  
  
  On 3/6/2015 5:49 PM, Jack Brennan via CnC-List wrote:


  
  
  
  

  I think it differs from insurance company to insurance
company.
   
  My current company, Progressive, does not ask about
stoves and in fact does not require surveys. However, it
likes you to have a stake in the game with high deductibles
and relatively low upper limits. (It used to be 15-20K. I
don’t know what it is now.) If you try for a low deductible,
the rate goes way up.
   
  Years ago, When I had BoatUS, I don’t remember being
asked about the stove.
   
  Jack Brennan
  Former CC 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.
  

  


  


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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Same thing here. And I do have an alcohol stove.

 

Marek

 

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I have no idea if my insurance company has a clue what kind of stove I have.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com

 

Coquina

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 5:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

Yes, really.  This is no special secret that only I know about. Perhaps your
premium is higher than it would have been otherwise, or whomever processed
your application hadn't gotten the memo. You represent a pretty small sample
group. :-) 

Bill Bina

On 3/6/2015 4:52 PM, jtsails wrote:

 

Really Bill? I had no trouble getting insurance on my boat. And I not only
have a pressurized alcohol stove, but an Atomic four as well!

James

CC 38 Mk2

Oriental, NC

 

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure
a boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers,
and those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the
hot items they look for in the insurance survey. 

The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences. 

Bill Bina

 

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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Alan Bergen via CnC-List]

I had CNG on my previous boat. I liked it because of the safety factor. It was 
easier, then, to get refills. Not so easy now. If you have easy access to 
refills, it's less work to convert from alcohol to CNG, than to propane, as the 
CNG canister can be stowed below. 

Alan Bergen 
35 Mk III Thirsty 

- Original Message -



CNG is what we have. Lighter than air. Pretty hard to find places to refill 
canister though 




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Remember that propane is heavier than air. If you install a propane stove, the 
propane must be in a compartment that vents (at the bottom) to the outside, or 
mount the propane tank outside the cabin. FYI - I just bought a Worthington 
aluminum 10 lb tank from Amazon for $130 US. Ordered on Friday; delivered by US 
Postal Service on Sunday. 





Alan Bergen 


35 Mk III Thirsty 


Rose City YC 


Portland, OR 





An question from another new CC 33 MK II owner. 





I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this. 


Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated 





John from Enterprise 

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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not 
insure a boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the 
numbers, and those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is 
one of the hot items they look for in the insurance survey.


The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences.


Bill Bina

On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List wrote:

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure 
alcohol stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is 
blue but not adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns 
about 8 high. Made an easy decision to scrap this.

Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

John from Enterprise



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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

CNG is what we have.  Lighter than air.  Pretty hard to find places to refill 
canister though

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Remember that propane is heavier than air.  If you install a propane stove, the 
propane must be in a compartment that vents (at the bottom) to the outside, or 
mount the propane tank outside the cabin. FYI - I just bought a Worthington 
aluminum 10 lb tank from Amazon for $130 US.  Ordered on Friday; delivered by 
US Postal Service on Sunday.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.
Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

John from Enterprise
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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Alan Bergen via CnC-List]

Remember that propane is heavier than air. If you install a propane stove, the 
propane must be in a compartment that vents (at the bottom) to the outside, or 
mount the propane tank outside the cabin. FYI - I just bought a Worthington 
aluminum 10 lb tank from Amazon for $130 US. Ordered on Friday; delivered by US 
Postal Service on Sunday. 

Alan Bergen 
35 Mk III Thirsty 
Rose City YC 
Portland, OR 

An question from another new CC 33 MK II owner. 

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this. 
Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated 

John from Enterprise 
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Re: Stus-List Stove

[David Paine via CnC-List]

Hi John,

I've grown to love (or at least respect) my Hillerange pressure OH stove.
The key is to heat the delivery pipe that runs over the top of the burner
without setting the boat ablaze.   My usual procedure is to open the valve,
look for liquid (small amount) in the pan below the burner then close it
off.  Ignite, then watch as the flames start licking the cabin liner.  The
breakthrough for me (many years ago) was the realization that a pot of
water on the burner cools and contains the flame and makes everything
manageable until the flame has just about died out.  When it does, open the
valve again, the preheat pipe vaporizes the alcohol and a beautiful
controllable blue flame takes over.   Works great for me and I'll keep mine
until I want to mess with propane, solenoids, gas detectors and the like.
Added bonus:  Ethylalcohol works great for removing butyl.

David



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cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

 I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure
 alcohol stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue
 but not adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8
 high. Made an easy decision to scrap this.
 Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

 John from Enterprise

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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Burt Stratton via CnC-List]

I have a little Electrolux single burner non pressurized alcohol stove and it 
perks my coffee as fast as my propane stove on the old boat. It is a large 
percolator (12 cup). I tested it on the bench before I put it back in the boat 
because it is important to me, too. I was very pleasantly surprised. External 
propane grill is a must for actually cooking a meal. 

 

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:15 AM
To: Alan Bergen; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

I have a two-burner Origo non-pressurized alcohol stove. Perfectly safe, works 
well for cooking, but you have to buy a French press if you like coffee in the 
morning because there aren’t enough BTUs to percolate coffee fast enough, at 
least for me.

 

I use denatured alcohol from Home Depot at a fraction of the cost of “boat 
fuel.” Despite the claims of the boat fuel sellers, the generic stuff works 
perfectly fine.

 

If you go this way, it helps to have a propane BBQ on the stern rail for the 
occasional meal when you really want that hot flame. 

 

Jack Brennan

Former CC 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.

 

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:02 AM

Cc: C mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com C Photoalbum email list 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

I had CNG on my previous boat.  I liked it because of the safety factor.  It 
was easier, then, to get refills.  Not so easy now.  If you have easy access to 
refills, it's less work to convert from alcohol to CNG, than to propane, as the 
CNG canister can be stowed below.

 

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

 

  _  

CNG is what we have.  Lighter than air.  Pretty hard to find places to refill 
canister though

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:43 AM
To: CC Photoalbum email list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

Remember that propane is heavier than air.  If you install a propane stove, the 
propane must be in a compartment that vents (at the bottom) to the outside, or 
mount the propane tank outside the cabin. FYI - I just bought a Worthington 
aluminum 10 lb tank from Amazon for $130 US.  Ordered on Friday; delivered by 
US Postal Service on Sunday. 

 

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

 

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

 

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.

Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

 

John from Enterprise

 

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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have CNG. We have a number of places to get tanks around Annapolis. I also 
found a device on FleaBay to hook up a tank to a car CNG refill nozzle. IIRC,, 
a stove tank holds about $3 worth of gas.  Might try it.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
CC 35 MK I
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

I had CNG on my previous boat.  I liked it because of the safety factor.  It 
was easier, then, to get refills.  Not so easy now.  If you have easy access to 
refills, it's less work to convert from alcohol to CNG, than to propane, as the 
CNG canister can be stowed below.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty


CNG is what we have.  Lighter than air.  Pretty hard to find places to refill 
canister though

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:43 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

Remember that propane is heavier than air.  If you install a propane stove, the 
propane must be in a compartment that vents (at the bottom) to the outside, or 
mount the propane tank outside the cabin. FYI - I just bought a Worthington 
aluminum 10 lb tank from Amazon for $130 US.  Ordered on Friday; delivered by 
US Postal Service on Sunday.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.
Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

John from Enterprise

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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Jim Reinardy via CnC-List]

I ripped out a pressurized alcohol stove and replaced it with an Origo on my 
last boat.  I would 2nd Alan’s assessment below.  They are great because they 
are self-contained, no need for tanks, lines, etc, and almost no risk of fire.  
In my case, I made some wooden spacers and was able to bolt it into an existing 
gimbal mount.  The downside is the lower heat compared to propane, or I assume 
CNG.  It takes a long time to boil water and things like that.   Firewater came 
with a complete propane setup that works great. That would be the obvious 
choice if the lines are already run, but given the locker requirements it’s not 
a small job on most boats.


Jim Reinardy

CC 30-2 “Firewater”

Milwaukee, WI








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I have a two-burner Origo non-pressurized alcohol stove. Perfectly safe, works 
well for cooking, but you have to buy a French press if you like coffee in the 
morning because there aren’t enough BTUs to percolate coffee fast enough, at 
least for me.

 

I use denatured alcohol from Home Depot at a fraction of the cost of “boat 
fuel.” Despite the claims of the boat fuel sellers, the generic stuff works 
perfectly fine.

 

If you go this way, it helps to have a propane BBQ on the stern rail for the 
occasional meal when you really want that hot flame. 

 

Jack Brennan

Former CC 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.

 


 


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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:02 AM

Cc: CC Photoalbum email list 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 



I had CNG on my previous boat.  I liked it because of the safety factor.  It 
was easier, then, to get refills.  Not so easy now.  If you have easy access to 
refills, it's less work to convert from alcohol to CNG, than to propane, as the 
CNG canister can be stowed below.


 

Alan Bergen


35 Mk III Thirsty


 





CNG is what we have.  Lighter than air.  Pretty hard to find places to refill 
canister though

 



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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:43 AM
To: CC Photoalbum email list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 




Remember that propane is heavier than air.  If you install a propane stove, the 
propane must be in a compartment that vents (at the bottom) to the outside, or 
mount the propane tank outside the cabin. FYI - I just bought a Worthington 
aluminum 10 lb tank from Amazon for $130 US.  Ordered on Friday; delivered by 
US Postal Service on Sunday. 


 


Alan Bergen


35 Mk III Thirsty


Rose City YC


Portland, OR


 


An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.


 


I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.


Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated


 


John from Enterprise

 




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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

The other downside to using alcohol as a fuel is that it releases an 
amazing amount of moisture in the air as it burns. In the confines of a 
boat cabin, this is quite noticeable.


Bill Bina

On 3/6/2015 12:19 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List wrote:
I ripped out a pressurized alcohol stove and replaced it with an Origo 
on my last boat.  I would 2nd Alan’s assessment below.  They are great 
because they are self-contained, no need for tanks, lines, etc, and 
almost no risk of fire.  In my case, I made some wooden spacers and 
was able to bolt it into an existing gimbal mount.  The downside is 
the lower heat compared to propane, or I assume CNG.  It takes a long 
time to boil water and things like that.   Firewater came with a 
complete propane setup that works great. That would be the obvious 
choice if the lines are already run, but given the locker requirements 
it’s not a small job on most boats.


Jim Reinardy
CC 30-2 “Firewater”
Milwaukee, WI


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I have a two-burner Origo non-pressurized alcohol stove. Perfectly 
safe, works well for cooking, but you have to buy a French press if 
you like coffee in the morning because there aren’t enough BTUs to 
percolate coffee fast enough, at least for me.
I use denatured alcohol from Home Depot at a fraction of the cost of 
“boat fuel.” Despite the claims of the boat fuel sellers, the generic 
stuff works perfectly fine.
If you go this way, it helps to have a propane BBQ on the stern rail 
for the occasional meal when you really want that hot flame.

Jack Brennan
Former CC 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.
*From:* Alan Bergen via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2015 11:02 AM
*Cc:* CC Photoalbum email list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stove
I had CNG on my previous boat.  I liked it because of the safety 
factor.  It was easier, then, to get refills.  Not so easy now.  If 
you have easy access to refills, it's less work to convert from 
alcohol to CNG, than to propane, as the CNG canister can be stowed below.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty


CNG is what we have. Lighter than air.  Pretty hard to find places to 
refill canister though


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*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stove

Remember that propane is heavier than air.  If you install a propane 
stove, the propane must be in a compartment that vents (at the bottom) 
to the outside, or mount the propane tank outside the cabin. FYI - I 
just bought a Worthington aluminum 10 lb tank from Amazon for $130 
US.  Ordered on Friday; delivered by US Postal Service on Sunday.


Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure 
alcohol stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is 
blue but not adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns 
about 8 high. Made an easy decision to scrap this.


Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

John from Enterprise


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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Jack Brennan via CnC-List]

I have a two-burner Origo non-pressurized alcohol stove. Perfectly safe, works 
well for cooking, but you have to buy a French press if you like coffee in the 
morning because there aren’t enough BTUs to percolate coffee fast enough, at 
least for me.

I use denatured alcohol from Home Depot at a fraction of the cost of “boat 
fuel.” Despite the claims of the boat fuel sellers, the generic stuff works 
perfectly fine.

If you go this way, it helps to have a propane BBQ on the stern rail for the 
occasional meal when you really want that hot flame.

Jack Brennan
Former CC 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.

From: Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:02 AM
Cc: CC Photoalbum email list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

I had CNG on my previous boat.  I liked it because of the safety factor.  It 
was easier, then, to get refills.  Not so easy now.  If you have easy access to 
refills, it's less work to convert from alcohol to CNG, than to propane, as the 
CNG canister can be stowed below.


Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty





CNG is what we have.  Lighter than air.  Pretty hard to find places to refill 
canister though



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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove



Remember that propane is heavier than air.  If you install a propane stove, the 
propane must be in a compartment that vents (at the bottom) to the outside, or 
mount the propane tank outside the cabin. FYI - I just bought a Worthington 
aluminum 10 lb tank from Amazon for $130 US.  Ordered on Friday; delivered by 
US Postal Service on Sunday.



Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR



An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.



I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.

Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated



John from Enterprise





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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

The Admiral and I like our pressure alcohol stove/oven, also.  Have gotten
parts from AH Enterprises, www.packstoves.net.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:40 AM, David Paine via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Hi John,

 I've grown to love (or at least respect) my Hillerange pressure OH stove.
   The key is to heat the delivery pipe that runs over the top of the burner
 without setting the boat ablaze.   My usual procedure is to open the valve,
 look for liquid (small amount) in the pan below the burner then close it
 off.  Ignite, then watch as the flames start licking the cabin liner.  The
 breakthrough for me (many years ago) was the realization that a pot of
 water on the burner cools and contains the flame and makes everything
 manageable until the flame has just about died out.  When it does, open the
 valve again, the preheat pipe vaporizes the alcohol and a beautiful
 controllable blue flame takes over.   Works great for me and I'll keep mine
 until I want to mess with propane, solenoids, gas detectors and the like.
 Added bonus:  Ethylalcohol works great for removing butyl.

 David



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 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

 I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure
 alcohol stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue
 but not adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8
 high. Made an easy decision to scrap this.
 Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

 John from Enterprise

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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I really do not like pressure alcohol one bit.
Strike 1: I am not prone to seasickness, but making a pancake breakfast in 
heavy seas with the cabin closed up made me sick as a dog from alcohol fumes.
Strike 2: The fuel lines started leaking and caused a fire during a race that 
was a fair PITA to put out.
Strike 3: A boat behind us in the Great Ocean Race had the fuel line totally 
fracture and fill the entire cabin with blazing alcohol. The flames even shot 
out of the hatch and caught the liferaft on fire. The boat went from no problem 
to burning stem-to-stern with the burned crew overboard in less than 30 
seconds. If it had happened a bit later in the race when they would not have 
been in view of anyone it would have been a multiple fatality. They were 
stupendously lucky to be quickly picked up by another boat in the race.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
CC 35 MK I

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To: David Paine; CnClist
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

The Admiral and I like our pressure alcohol stove/oven, also.  Have gotten 
parts from AH Enterprises, www.packstoves.nethttp://www.packstoves.net.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:40 AM, David Paine via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Hi John,

I've grown to love (or at least respect) my Hillerange pressure OH stove.   The 
key is to heat the delivery pipe that runs over the top of the burner without 
setting the boat ablaze.   My usual procedure is to open the valve, look for 
liquid (small amount) in the pan below the burner then close it off.  Ignite, 
then watch as the flames start licking the cabin liner.  The breakthrough for 
me (many years ago) was the realization that a pot of water on the burner cools 
and contains the flame and makes everything manageable until the flame has just 
about died out.  When it does, open the valve again, the preheat pipe vaporizes 
the alcohol and a beautiful controllable blue flame takes over.   Works great 
for me and I'll keep mine until I want to mess with propane, solenoids, gas 
detectors and the like.   Added bonus:  Ethylalcohol works great for removing 
butyl.

David



On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.
Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

John from Enterprise

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Re: Stus-List Stove

[rick bushie via CnC-List]

I replaced my pressurized alcohol stove with an Origo 6000. There is
absolutely no room (at least no room I'm willing to give up) on Anchovy for
a proper propane locker.  I perk coffee and boil a teapot every morning
with no problem.  My wife bakes every night. I have a griddle pan that sits
nicely across the two burners on top for breakfast goodies. What's not to
love!  I highly recommend non press alcohol.

Rick Bushie
Anchovy, 1971 30-1
Worton Creek, MD
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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

I still use a pressurized alcohol stove without problems once I learned how to 
use it. 
It was not a big jump from using a Coleman camp stove, but not exactly the 
same. 
It is the type with the local alcohol tank, so you really want to remember to 
check the alcohol level before leaving the dock.
Alcohol is a lot safer than other liquid fuels, and if you use kerosene or 
diesel, you still have to use alcohol to get it started. 

Steve Thomas
Port Stanley, ON

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  Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 15:15
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove


  I replaced my pressurized alcohol stove with an Origo 6000. There is 
absolutely no room (at least no room I'm willing to give up) on Anchovy for a 
proper propane locker.  I perk coffee and boil a teapot every morning with no 
problem.  My wife bakes every night. I have a griddle pan that sits nicely 
across the two burners on top for breakfast goodies. What's not to love!  I 
highly recommend non press alcohol.


  Rick Bushie
  Anchovy, 1971 30-1
  Worton Creek, MD


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Re: Stus-List Stove

[jtsails via CnC-List]

Really Bill? I had no trouble getting insurance on my boat. And I not only have 
a pressurized alcohol stove, but an Atomic four as well!
James
CC 38 Mk2
Oriental, NC

From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure a 
boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers, and 
those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the hot 
items they look for in the insurance survey. 

The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually 
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences. 

Bill Bina


On 3/5/2015 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List wrote:

  An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

  I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.
  Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

  John from Enterprise







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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Bill Bina via CnC-List]

  
  
Yes, really.  This is no special secret that
  only I know about. Perhaps your premium is higher than it
  would have been otherwise, or whomever processed your
  application hadn't gotten the memo. You represent a pretty
  small sample group.  :-) 
  
  Bill Bina
  
  On 3/6/2015 4:52 PM, jtsails wrote:


  
  


  Really Bill? I had no trouble getting insurance on my
boat. And I not only have a pressurized alcohol stove, but
an Atomic four as well!
  James
  CC 38 Mk2
  Oriental, NC
  

   
  
From: Bill Bina -
gmail via CnC-List 
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove
  

 
  
  You would have also
discovered that many insurance companies will not insure
a boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go
strictly by the numbers, and those stoves have a very
bad track record for claims. It is one of the "hot"
items they look for in the insurance survey. 

The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes
are virtually invisible, which can also lead to
unintended consequences. 

Bill Bina
  

  


  


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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I have no idea if my insurance company has a clue what kind of stove I have.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com 

 

Coquina

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 5:07 PM
To: jtsails; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

Yes, really.  This is no special secret that only I know about. Perhaps your
premium is higher than it would have been otherwise, or whomever processed
your application hadn't gotten the memo. You represent a pretty small sample
group. :-) 

Bill Bina

On 3/6/2015 4:52 PM, jtsails wrote:

 

Really Bill? I had no trouble getting insurance on my boat. And I not only
have a pressurized alcohol stove, but an Atomic four as well!

James

CC 38 Mk2

Oriental, NC

 

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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:55 AM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  

Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove

 

You would have also discovered that many insurance companies will not insure
a boat with a pressurized alcohol stove. They go strictly by the numbers,
and those stoves have a very bad track record for claims. It is one of the
hot items they look for in the insurance survey. 

The other issue with alcohol is that the flames it makes are virtually
invisible, which can also lead to unintended consequences. 

Bill Bina

 

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Re: Stus-List Stove

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

In a word - butane.

John


 
 An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.
 
 I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
 stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
 adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made 
 an easy decision to scrap this.
 Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated
 
 John from Enterprise
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Stus-List Stove

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 An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.
I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.Any suggestions about a new stove top would be 
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Re: Stus-List Stove

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John from Enterprise?? Competition? 


All the best,

Edd

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On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:14 PM, John McKay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure alcohol 
stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue but not 
adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8 high. Made an 
easy decision to scrap this.
Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

John from Enterprise
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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Propane. Most butane stoves are not marine grade and some have a nasty
habit of exploding. Unless you are talking about cooking over 40 Bic
lighters taped together, in which case it's fine.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 5 March 2015 at 19:27, John Pennie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 In a word - butane.

 John



 An question from another new CC 33  MK II owner.

 I have been trying to get the original Hillerange two burner pressure
 alcohol stove working, and it scares me. One burner lights, flame is blue
 but not adjustable. The other sounds like a jet engine and burns about 8
 high. Made an easy decision to scrap this.
 Any suggestions about a new stove top would be appreciated

 John from Enterprise
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Dennis C.]

Danny,

I use Origo fuel from West Merine. Tried others. Found it works best. You could 
try Coleman. 

Stay away from any alcohol that doesn't claim to be a stove fuel first. That 
is, if it says can also be used as a stove fuel, 
don't use it. 

Good stove fuels are a blend of different alcohols, isopropyl, etc. they are 
not simply denatured ethyl or methyl alcohol. 

Dennis C.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

 Hi Dennis,
 
 So you think I should just give it a try?  Should I buy from a camping store? 
  Anything that says stove fuel?
 
 I have not read anything about the big box fuel.  Are you saying to stay away 
 or that it should be fine with the big box stuff?
 
 Danny
 
 
 From my Android phone 
 
 
  Original message 
 From: Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com 
 Date: 06/29/2013 10:25 AM (GMT-05:00) 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2 
 
 
 Danny,
 
 The stove on Touché hadn't been used in 10-15 years. It fired right up. Yours 
 may just need cleaning. 
 
 The secret is to use a good, high quality sootless stove fuel. Don't believe 
 what you might read about using alcohols bought at a big box store. Pay the 
 extra dollar or two for dedicated stove fuel. 
 
 I keep a small hand bicycle pump on board to pump the tank to 7-9 psi. I have 
 original instruction manual for my Shipmate 3 burner with oven. The burners 
 heat up happily. The oven is pathetic. Might make 275F on a hot day in July. 
 
 The Admiral and I are both experienced campers so we're used to such stoves. 
 
 Dennis C.
 Touché 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
 
  I have to be honest I haven't even tried this stove.  I assumed it to need 
  a rebuild given it hasn't been used in so long.  I wonder if it may have a 
  rebuild kit somewhere...
  
  Danny
  
  Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  Most alcohol stoves are close cousins of camping stoves.  Touché's 
  pressure alcohol stove has Primus burners. They're fairly standard. Try 
  AH enterprises in Tustin, California for parts. 
  
  Dennis C.
  Touché 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com 
  wrote:
  
  did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm 
  having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be 
  repaired.  I have the old alcohol type.
  
  danny
  
  Please note: message attached
  
  From: johnr...@aol.com
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2
  Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
  
  
  Any recommendations for a new stove for Falcon.
  
  John McLaughlin
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Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Bryan Buttigieg]

We an Origo pressureless alchohol stove on our cc30-1. I am a big fan. Uses 
cheap Methyl Hydrate from Home Depot. Never a problem. Easy to fill, easy to 
light, no maintenance at all and very safe. It has a deceptively small flame 
but boils water very fast. It has a nice low simmer too, more than good enough 
for my cooked oatmeal. Only downside is that Origos are quite expensive. I hear 
that you can get lucky on ebay when ignorant boat owners who acquire one with a 
new (to them) old boat put them up for sale not knowing what they have. 
Here is a link to the manufacturer. Our model is a gimballed version of the 
3000 model.

http://www.swego.com/stoves_alcohol.htm

 Bryan
Middle C 
1971 CC 30-1


Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 19:08:16 -0400
From: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2
Message-ID: cexssijjekbch83x0mtn53ml.1372547296...@email.android.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi Dennis,

So you think I should just give it a try? ?Should I buy from a camping store? 
?Anything that says stove fuel?

I have not read anything about the big box fuel. ?Are you saying to stay away 
or that it should be fine with the big box stuff?

Danny


From my Android phone

 Original message 
From: Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com 
Date: 06/29/2013  10:25 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2 

Danny,

The stove on Touch? hadn't been used in 10-15 years. It fired right up. Yours 
may just need cleaning. 

The secret is to use a good, high quality sootless stove fuel. Don't believe 
what you might read about using alcohols bought at a big box store. Pay the 
extra dollar or two for dedicated stove fuel.

I keep a small hand bicycle pump on board to pump the tank to 7-9 psi. I have 
original instruction manual for my Shipmate 3 burner with oven. The burners 
heat up happily. The oven is pathetic. Might make 275F on a hot day in July. 

The Admiral and I are both experienced campers so we're used to such stoves. 

Dennis C.
Touch? 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

 I have to be honest I haven't even tried this stove.? I assumed it to need a 
 rebuild given it hasn't been used in so long.? I wonder if it may have a 
 rebuild kit somewhere...
 
 Danny
 
 Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Most alcohol stoves are close cousins of camping stoves.? Touch?'s pressure 
 alcohol stove has Primus burners. They're fairly standard. Try AH 
 enterprises in Tustin, California for parts. 
 
 Dennis C.
 Touch? 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
 
 did this question just get overlooked?? I didn't see any responses... I'm 
 having to do something with my stove as well.? I think they can be 
 repaired.? I have the old alcohol type.
 
 danny
 
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 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2
 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
 
 
 Any recommendations for a new stove for Falcon.
 
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2 + diesel?

[Jake Brodersen]

Josh,

 

While a diesel stove seems safer and uses the same fuel you already carry,
the resulting odor in the cabin has got to be ghastly.  A diesel heater has
an exhaust to get rid of the odor.  What can they do to a stove to make the
smell go away?

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

CC 35 Mk-III

Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA

   

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

 

There is a company that makes a diesel stove.  I plan to replace my Force
10...when it dies.  The stove has a cutting board lid that when closed turns
the unit I to a cabin heater.

Josh Muckley
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2 + diesel?

[Ken Heaton]

The Wallas stove Josh is referring to has an exhaust.  There is no exposed
flame in the boat's interior.

http://www.wallas.fi/default.asp?id=boat-stove-en

Ken H.


On 29 June 2013 08:51, Jake Brodersen captain_j...@cox.net wrote:

 Josh,

 ** **

 While a diesel stove seems safer and uses the same fuel you already carry,
 the resulting odor in the cabin has got to be ghastly.  A diesel heater has
 an exhaust to get rid of the odor.  What can they do to a stove to make the
 smell go away?

 ** **

 Jake

 ** **

 *Jake Brodersen*

 *CC 35 Mk-III*

 *Midnight Mistress*

 *Hampton VA*

 *   *

 [image: cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940]**

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

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 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

 ** **

 There is a company that makes a diesel stove.  I plan to replace my Force
 10...when it dies.  The stove has a cutting board lid that when closed
 turns the unit I to a cabin heater.

 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk

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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2 + diesel?

[Josh Muckley]

Jake,

Diesel is a wet fuel so besides the smell you have to vent the water
vapor as well.  The burner chamber is contained and vented to the
atmosphere through a small (~2) hose and micro fan (CPU fan).  The burner
sits below a glass top so there is no exposed flame.  When you close the
optional lid a blower comes on and draws air in from behind, under the
lid/over the burner and out the front.  Cabin heater.  They also make a
version with an oven and I'm pretty sure they are designed to fit in place
of common propane and alcohol models.  The name of the company is wallas
but you need to follow the link below.

http://www.scanmarineusa.com/

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+

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On Jun 29, 2013 7:54 AM, Jake Brodersen captain_j...@cox.net wrote:

 Josh,

 ** **

 While a diesel stove seems safer and uses the same fuel you already carry,
 the resulting odor in the cabin has got to be ghastly.  A diesel heater has
 an exhaust to get rid of the odor.  What can they do to a stove to make the
 smell go away?

 ** **

 Jake

 ** **

 *Jake Brodersen*

 *CC 35 Mk-III*

 *Midnight Mistress*

 *Hampton VA*

 *   *

 [image: cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940]**

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

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 Muckley
 *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2013 9:38 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

 ** **

 There is a company that makes a diesel stove.  I plan to replace my Force
 10...when it dies.  The stove has a cutting board lid that when closed
 turns the unit I to a cabin heater.

 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk

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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[johnrmcl]

Thanks Raymond. I will pass on stove with oven, but would appreciate your 
comments on this type of alcohol stove that uses canisters.

John McLaughlin
CC 29-2 'Falcon'


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Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:00 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2


Danny, John
I have a slightly used Origo 6000 (2) burner w/ oven alcohol I would be willing 
sell for much less than a new one. 
It came with the boat and does not have much use on it. I have replaced the 
Origo with a
propane.
Ray Shibe


On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 05:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:


 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm 
having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be repaired.  I 
have the old alcohol type.

danny

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Subject: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2
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Any recommendations for a new stove for Falcon.
 
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Steve Thomas]

 Dan, 
 You should try the stove you have, in my opinion. If you have experience 
with a naphtha camp stove, you will find that the pressure alcohol stove is 
quite similar in operation. The main operational difference is that you shut 
off the alcohol while the burner is pre-heating, and there is no smoke during 
that step. I find that you have to pump the tank a bit more often than with 
naphtha.

 As for the other options, the Origo type alcohol stoves are dead simple but 
not as hot, and a bit more sensitive to air currents in the boat than other 
choices. The flame can come out under the pot and damage the slide that 
controls the flame, if you are careless and unlucky with air currents. Lived on 
a boat for a month this year that only had one burner working because of that 
sort of damage. 

 Propane is the next easiest to use from the operator stand point, and has a 
hotter flame than alcohol, but installation complexity, cost, and fuel handling 
may be an issue. Once installed, it is the hands down first choice for most 
people. The safety issues with propane can be dealt with through proper 
installation and operation.

 I have no personal experience with diesel cook stoves, but have observed that 
they seem to be used mainly by long distance and long term cruisers. You still 
have to use alcohol for pre-heat, so there is still at least one other fuel on 
board. One couple I know, with a Corbin 39, switched to propane once they 
decided their ocean passage making days were over. Anyway I would do a thorough 
investigation before considering a diesel cook stove. 

 Kerosene is less smelly and sooty than diesel, and might be a choice as well. 
My boat is equipped with a Kenyon pressurized alcohol stove, but it appears to  
be the same as the kerosene version except for the burners, and maybe only the 
jets, I am not sure. I have considered trying it with kerosene just to see if 
it will work. Kerosene will give you a hotter flame, but all things considered 
I can't see it worth the trouble unless alcohol was hard to get. You still have 
to use alcohol for pre-heat in any case. 

Steve Thomas
CC27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Danny
Haughey
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2


I have to be honest I haven't even tried this stove.  I assumed it to need a 
rebuild given it hasn't been used in so long.  I wonder if it may have a 
rebuild kit somewhere...

Danny

Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:

Most alcohol stoves are close cousins of camping stoves.  Touché's pressure 
alcohol stove has Primus burners. They're fairly standard. Try AH enterprises 
in Tustin, California for parts. 

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm 
 having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be repaired. 
  I have the old alcohol type.
 
 danny
 
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 Subject: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2
 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Steve Thomas]

 Oops, I meant to address John, the original poster.

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Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 9:05 AM
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 Dan, 
 You should try the stove you have, in my opinion. If you have experience 
with a naphtha camp stove, you will find that the pressure alcohol stove is 
quite similar in operation. The main operational difference is that you shut 
off the alcohol while the burner is pre-heating, and there is no smoke during 
that step. I find that you have to pump the tank a bit more often than with 
naphtha.

 As for the other options, the Origo type alcohol stoves are dead simple but 
not as hot, and a bit more sensitive to air currents in the boat than other 
choices. The flame can come out under the pot and damage the slide that 
controls the flame, if you are careless and unlucky with air currents. Lived on 
a boat for a month this year that only had one burner working because of that 
sort of damage. 

 Propane is the next easiest to use from the operator stand point, and has a 
hotter flame than alcohol, but installation complexity, cost, and fuel handling 
may be an issue. Once installed, it is the hands down first choice for most 
people. The safety issues with propane can be dealt with through proper 
installation and operation.

 I have no personal experience with diesel cook stoves, but have observed that 
they seem to be used mainly by long distance and long term cruisers. You still 
have to use alcohol for pre-heat, so there is still at least one other fuel on 
board. One couple I know, with a Corbin 39, switched to propane once they 
decided their ocean passage making days were over. Anyway I would do a thorough 
investigation before considering a diesel cook stove. 

 Kerosene is less smelly and sooty than diesel, and might be a choice as well. 
My boat is equipped with a Kenyon pressurized alcohol stove, but it appears to  
be the same as the kerosene version except for the burners, and maybe only the 
jets, I am not sure. I have considered trying it with kerosene just to see if 
it will work. Kerosene will give you a hotter flame, but all things considered 
I can't see it worth the trouble unless alcohol was hard to get. You still have 
to use alcohol for pre-heat in any case. 

Steve Thomas
CC27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Danny
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Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2


I have to be honest I haven't even tried this stove.  I assumed it to need a 
rebuild given it hasn't been used in so long.  I wonder if it may have a 
rebuild kit somewhere...

Danny

Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:

Most alcohol stoves are close cousins of camping stoves.  Touché's pressure 
alcohol stove has Primus burners. They're fairly standard. Try AH enterprises 
in Tustin, California for parts. 

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm 
 having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be repaired. 
  I have the old alcohol type.
 
 danny
 
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 Subject: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2
 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2 + diesel?

[Jake Brodersen]

Josh,

 

Nice looking stoves.  Certainly a viable option for replacing an alcohol
stove or older propane stove.

 

Jake

 

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Muckley
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 8:29 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2 + diesel?

 

Jake,

Diesel is a wet fuel so besides the smell you have to vent the water vapor
as well.  The burner chamber is contained and vented to the atmosphere
through a small (~2) hose and micro fan (CPU fan).  The burner sits below a
glass top so there is no exposed flame.  When you close the optional lid a
blower comes on and draws air in from behind, under the lid/over the burner
and out the front.  Cabin heater.  They also make a version with an oven and
I'm pretty sure they are designed to fit in place of common propane and
alcohol models.  The name of the company is wallas but you need to follow
the link below.

http://www.scanmarineusa.com/

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Dennis C.]

Danny,

The stove on Touché hadn't been used in 10-15 years. It fired right up. Yours 
may just need cleaning. 

The secret is to use a good, high quality sootless stove fuel. Don't believe 
what you might read about using alcohols bought at a big box store. Pay the 
extra dollar or two for dedicated stove fuel. 

I keep a small hand bicycle pump on board to pump the tank to 7-9 psi. I have 
original instruction manual for my Shipmate 3 burner with oven. The burners 
heat up happily. The oven is pathetic. Might make 275F on a hot day in July. 

The Admiral and I are both experienced campers so we're used to such stoves. 

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

 I have to be honest I haven't even tried this stove.  I assumed it to need a 
 rebuild given it hasn't been used in so long.  I wonder if it may have a 
 rebuild kit somewhere...
 
 Danny
 
 Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Most alcohol stoves are close cousins of camping stoves.  Touché's pressure 
 alcohol stove has Primus burners. They're fairly standard. Try AH 
 enterprises in Tustin, California for parts. 
 
 Dennis C.
 Touché 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
 
 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm 
 having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be 
 repaired.  I have the old alcohol type.
 
 danny
 
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 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Danny Haughey]

Hi Dennis,

So you think I should just give it a try?  Should I buy from a camping store?  
Anything that says stove fuel?

I have not read anything about the big box fuel.  Are you saying to stay away 
or that it should be fine with the big box stuff?

Danny


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From: Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com 
Date: 06/29/2013  10:25 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2 
 
Danny,

The stove on Touché hadn't been used in 10-15 years. It fired right up. Yours 
may just need cleaning. 

The secret is to use a good, high quality sootless stove fuel. Don't believe 
what you might read about using alcohols bought at a big box store. Pay the 
extra dollar or two for dedicated stove fuel. 

I keep a small hand bicycle pump on board to pump the tank to 7-9 psi. I have 
original instruction manual for my Shipmate 3 burner with oven. The burners 
heat up happily. The oven is pathetic. Might make 275F on a hot day in July. 

The Admiral and I are both experienced campers so we're used to such stoves. 

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

 I have to be honest I haven't even tried this stove.  I assumed it to need a 
 rebuild given it hasn't been used in so long.  I wonder if it may have a 
 rebuild kit somewhere...
 
 Danny
 
 Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Most alcohol stoves are close cousins of camping stoves.  Touché's pressure 
 alcohol stove has Primus burners. They're fairly standard. Try AH 
 enterprises in Tustin, California for parts. 
 
 Dennis C.
 Touché 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
 
 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm 
 having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be 
 repaired.  I have the old alcohol type.
 
 danny
 
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 Subject: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2
 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Joe Della Barba]

I have seen people use $50 propane camping stoves to replace 2 burner alky 
stoves. It is safe with appropriate precautions.

I have a CNG 4 burner stove and oven. I absolutely LOVE it except the fuel is 
getting harder to find and is quite expensive. Until the last kitchen remodel 
it was better than the stove in my house. 

We also got good use out of a 1 burner Sea-Swing offshore. Nothing beats that 
for extreme weather cooking.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

CC 35 MK I

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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Sam Salter]

Not sure how much you use the stove. ie: is this to do a few meals and 
coffee at weekends or are you planning long, extended cruises?


I have a 2 burner, Force 10, stainless, propane stove on my 26.
It fitted where the original Kenyon stove was mounted in the worktop. 
Just a little cutting to open up the opening slightly. It has a cutting 
board on top which helps increase the working surface if I'm not cooking.
It's not plumbed in to a propane tank. I use those small cylinders that 
fit the BBQ. I disconnect when I'm done cooking and store them in one of 
the cockpit lockers with a vent to just above the waterline.


Not sure how legal it is, but I feel it's quite safe as long as I 
disconnect when done and I'm not too concerned that Canadian Coast Guard 
will turn up on the Ghost. I doubt they know the rules anyway.


But I don't do extended cruises, so no gourmet, 5 course meals.

Sam Salter
CC 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta

On 29/06/2013 7:13 PM, Joe Della Barba wrote:


I have seen people use $50 propane camping stoves to replace 2 burner 
alky stoves. It is safe with appropriate precautions.


I have a CNG 4 burner stove and oven. I absolutely LOVE it except the 
fuel is getting harder to find and is quite expensive. Until the last 
kitchen remodel it was better than the stove in my house.


We also got good use out of a 1 burner Sea-Swing offshore. Nothing 
beats that for extreme weather cooking.


Joe Della Barba

Coquina

CC 35 MK I

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[djhaug...@juno.com]

 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm 
having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be repaired.  I 
have the old alcohol type.

danny

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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Ken Heaton]

What fuel source for do you use for your existing stove?

We have a 20 some year old propane Force 10 and it still works fine.
 Mostly stainless steel so easy maintenance.  The Binnacle sells them among
others.

http://ca.binnacle.com/Stoves--Accessories/c221/index.html?filter_id=101

Ken H.


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  did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm
 having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be
 repaired.  I have the old alcohol type.

 danny

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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[RAYMOND SHIBE]

Danny, John
I have a slightly used Origo 6000 (2) burner w/ oven alcohol I would be 
willing sell for much less than a new one. 
It came with the boat and does not have much use on it. I have replaced 
the Origo with a

propane.
Ray Shibe

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 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... 
I'm having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be 
repaired.  I have the old alcohol type.




danny



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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Dennis C.]

Most alcohol stoves are close cousins of camping stoves.  Touché's pressure 
alcohol stove has Primus burners. They're fairly standard. Try AH enterprises 
in Tustin, California for parts. 

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm 
 having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be repaired.  
 I have the old alcohol type.
 
 danny
 
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 Any recommendations for a new stove for Falcon.
  
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Josh Muckley]

There is a company that makes a diesel stove.  I plan to replace my Force
10...when it dies.  The stove has a cutting board lid that when closed
turns the unit I to a cabin heater.

Josh Muckley
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On Jun 28, 2013 9:28 PM, Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Most alcohol stoves are close cousins of camping stoves.  Touché's
 pressure alcohol stove has Primus burners. They're fairly standard. Try AH
 enterprises in Tustin, California for parts.

 Dennis C.
 Touché 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA

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 On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com
 wrote:

 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm
 having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be
 repaired.  I have the old alcohol type.

 danny

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 Any recommendations for a new stove for Falcon.

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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Danny Haughey]

I have to be honest I haven't even tried this stove.  I assumed it to need a 
rebuild given it hasn't been used in so long.  I wonder if it may have a 
rebuild kit somewhere...

Danny

Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:

Most alcohol stoves are close cousins of camping stoves.  Touché's pressure 
alcohol stove has Primus burners. They're fairly standard. Try AH enterprises 
in Tustin, California for parts. 

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... I'm 
 having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be repaired. 
  I have the old alcohol type.
 
 danny
 
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 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[Danny Haughey]

Ray,
Given john started the thread, he gets first dibs...

If he is not interested I am!

You can write me off list

Danny

RAYMOND SHIBE rsh...@optonline.net wrote:


Danny, John
I have a slightly used Origo 6000 (2) burner w/ oven alcohol I would be 
willing sell for much less than a new one. 
It came with the boat and does not have much use on it. I have replaced 
the Origo with a
propane.
Ray Shibe

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 did this question just get overlooked?  I didn't see any responses... 
I'm having to do something with my stove as well.  I think they can be 
repaired.  I have the old alcohol type.



danny



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Any recommendations for a new stove for Falcon.



 



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Stus-List Stove Replacement for CC29-2

[johnrmcl]

Any recommendations for a new stove for Falcon.

John McLaughlin
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