Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

[vale]

yes i am loosing my partition table every couple of day. very annoying! i
cant trust anymore my data beeing secure on the openmoko.

i have a sandisk 8gb class4 sdhc card with one ext3 partition. 

i hope there will be a fix soon, but i'm loosing hope :(


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Re: receiving SMS messages

[Benedikt Schindler]

Bruce Adams schrieb:
> I've had the impression, on other phones, that the GSM network could 
> successfully deliver a message into the SIM card inside my phone, but if 
> the phone software was too distracted to hear the initial notification 
> from the SIM card about the new message, the phone wouldn't notice the 
> message until another message came along or something else happened 
> (such as rebooting the phone) that caused the phone to look for messages 
> on the SIM.
>   

that's just the way it is on my "Sony Ericsson p1" and O2.
(But there they say it is a problem with O2-Germany. But no one knows 
why no other handy has this problem ;) )
So i'm used to it, to have a buggy handy.  and thisone wouldn't get 
new Software-Fixes every day.

 I am seeing forward to replace it with my Om2008.8/Freerunner .

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Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

[Stefan Schmidt]

Hello.

On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 22:31, Craig B. Allen wrote:
> I submitted ticket #79.

Thanks. I adjusted the title a bit to reflect better that you are asking for a
DTMF keypad.

This is something the framework need to provide. Once it does this zhone just
cover it to show how to use it. Due to the given time to MS3 we will not be able
to make this happen in the next release though.

http://trac.freesmartphone.org/roadmap

But it is not forgotten. We keep the bug until we fixed this.

regards
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

[Robert Schuster]

Hi,

Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
> Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and
> debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily.
If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set

INHERIT += "package_deb" (in your local.conf)

and then it will build .deb packages as well.

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

[Jay Vaughan]

> imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture  
> from
> OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and
> people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in
> bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece.


While we're on the subject, a USB Host/Device Y-cable or adapter would  
be good to include as well.  Come to think of it maybe there is a  
market for a 3rd party supplier to put together an accessory kit that  
extends the functionality of the FR beyond 'laser-pointer yielding'  
and into 'USB device medusa' ..

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Re: GPRS working with SIMYO

[Jakob Steltner]

Am Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:36:07 -0700
schrieb Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Michael Kluge wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Woo-hoo -- I managed to get an GPRS connection:
> > 
>
> Please add your scripts and instructions to the wiki! This is
> excellent information.
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael

I added my scripts for connecting to simyo to the wiki, I think they
are originally based on his work.

~ Jakob

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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

[Benedikt Schindler]

Olivier Berger schrieb:
>> Is "8/8: First official release of Om 2008.8 [1]" in the front page
>> guilty ? : looks like it was announced officially indeed :(
>> 
NO! This was standing there since a few days!
This section is a mixed up event and news section.
And someone put it in there as upcomming event!

We should split up news and events in two boxes.
And news should be something like offical announcements.

>> Anyway, now it should be released right ?
>>
>> 
i don't think so !

>> I can see two sets of images in
>> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080808/ :
>>  openmoko-devel-image
>> and
>>  openmoko-qtopia-x11-image
>>
>> Is it OK now ? ... which one should be use : my guess is
>> openmoko-qtopia-x11-image as -devel seems more of
>> unstable/testing/beta things...
>>
>> 
If i understand all the postings of yesterday right, this is the real 
meaning of the files:

openmoko-devel-image : 

This is the offical Om2007.2 release. 
install the rootfs. Do a "opkg update && opkg upgrade".
And you are just where everyone in the list is when he saied he is running a 
OM2007.2



openmoko-qtopia-x11-image :

This is not the ASU or the Om2008.8 !
this is a mixture from Om2007.2 and some ASU applications.
(And the style the ASU would look like.) So used it to 
see what ASU would look like. But it will have many bugs 
the ASU doesn't have or witch are not there anymore.
And now i don't know what someone in the list used if he saied he used ASU.
For me i always thought this is the ASU. So maybe he used this or the real ASU.


How to get the real ASU:

i don't know. we have to wait for the announcement.
If i understand the other people right, there had never been a correct 
installation guide in the wiki, about where to get an up to date ASU image.
It is just an Om2007.2 updated with qtopia apps.


>> Thanks in advance for any hints.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> 

@all :

please corret me if i get something wrong.
i am still waiting for my "real" ASU ;)

Beni


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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

[Jay Vaughan]

> To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder :
>
> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/
>
> I guess it was all prep work for the release.
>


Is this the official release location now or what?

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

[arne anka]

> If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set
>
> INHERIT += "package_deb" (in your local.conf)
>
> and then it will build .deb packages as well.

well, _that's_ nice.
coulöd someone please put it in wiki/debian?

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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

[Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)]

Hi Jay:

>> To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder :
>>
>> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/
>>
>> I guess it was all prep work for the release.
>>
> 
> 
> Is this the official release location now or what?
> 

No, it's not official, I think will be another announcement.

Regards,

Tony Tu (Neng-Yu Tu)

Openmoko, Inc.
Support.

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Re: Request for Help: SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany

[Benedikt Schindler]

Hi,

i couldn't get a money sponsoring from my company.  (it's definitly not 
our market)
But i maybe get some jackets with an openmoko design for the people who 
are standing at the systems.

i will create and post  a sample design later.
23th and 24th i am definitly there.
I'm trying to get there also on the first two days.
(i just didn't get my vacation confirmation from my boss yet)

cu all
Beni



Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
> Hi all in Munich, Bavaria, Germany (or anywhere else who wants to  
> visit Munich in October):
>
> We can get a small booth (12 sqm somewhere near IBM) at the SYSTEMS  
> fair in the "PERSPEKTIVE OPEN SOURCE" area.
>
> http://www.systems.de/
> http://www.systems.de/de/Home/besucher/themen/themenueberblick#20135120
> http://www.systems.de/link/de/20155618#20155618
>
> For further planning, I need
> * people who want to help planning
> * people who want to staff the booth
> * ideas what to present
> * potential sponsors (my company is willing to do some sponsoring but  
> probably not all)
>
> Please write me your ideas.
>
> Nikolaus
>
>
> 
> Mobile Office Solutions
> by Golden Delicious Computers GmbH&Co. KG
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> +49-89-54290367
> http://www.handheld-linux.com
>
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> Komplementär:
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Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| yes i am loosing my partition table every couple of day. very annoying! i
| cant trust anymore my data beeing secure on the openmoko.
|
| i have a sandisk 8gb class4 sdhc card with one ext3 partition.
|
| i hope there will be a fix soon, but i'm loosing hope :(

Hey don't lose hope.  There are two issues.  First is just some big
cards are too slow to respond at default 16MHz clock with Glamo 16-bit
clock count timeout counter.  See this

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743

Suspend / resume (partition overwrite is only a suspend / resume issue)
has been fundamentally broken on GTA02 since before I got here last
December, it didn't work at all until a series of deathmatches with it.
~ The biggest deathmatch of all to clean and fix it is going on at the
minute on 2.6.26 branch here and it exposed the biggest underlying
problem for us which is Glamo behaviours.  Assuming I kill it before it
kills me, we will have a far less racy and more complete suspend and
resume ordering situation then.

Other projects using Linux also have that problem of partition overwrite
on resume, but I suspect resume ordering and racing is behind their
problems too.  When we clear that in the 2.6.26 branch we stand a chance
to synthesize random or moving delays in resume action and try to flush
out where it comes from.

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Re: FSO wifi power control

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the command
| line in FSO.
|
| I thought it might be here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs
|
| but it doesn't seem to be.

I made a patch that provides this just fine, the problem is I did not
find a way to provoke a rescan of the SDIO bus on repowering so it will
recognize "card insertion" and bring the card back up properly.  So I am
unable to add the patch yet.

It is waiting on someone to figure out how to do this on the towering,
terrifying Atheros SDIO stack.

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Re: GPS rework: Please test and report on software fix prior to attempting any hardware fix

[Neil Brown]

On Tuesday August 5, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> For a bit more consistency of timing, less manual intervention, and enough 
> readings to get an idea of the run to run variation in that location, can I 
> suggest a script? It could do with a timeout when waiting for a fix since 
> with deivestrength 3 and idleclk 1 this can take a _very_ long time, possibly 
> forever in some locations!

Thanks for the script.
After wondering for a while why it didn't work at all for me, I
added
   stty min 1 < /dev/ttySAC1

because either frameworkd in FSO or openmoko-agpsui did an
   stty min 0 < /dev/ttySAC1
and that caused grep to exit immediately.

Anyway, I haven't let it run completely yet, but the first result is

d i time
0 0 real 9m 52.15s


Yes, nearly 10 minutes.  This is indoors, but I have had problems
getting a GPS fix everywhere, inside, outside, in a car, in the park.
Once it fixes it tracks OK (though it doesn't recover from going into
a shopping complex and coming out again).

It seems a lot like the originally reported problem, but this is with
a kernel that has the fix and the magic sysfs files:

Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Jul 29 01:19:38 UTC 2008 armv4tl unknown

I have the wireless going, but GSM is possibly turned off as I killed
frameworkd to make sure it wasn't touching the GPS.

I know someone who I trust to solder the capacitor - should I try that
(if I can get hold of him)?


Another result just came in:

d i time
0 0 real 9m 52.15s
0 1 real 8m 29.79s


These numbers are actually pretty good.  openmoko-agpsui was giving me
1000 or 2100 seconds!

I decided to take out the SD card (and the SIM card) and try again.
(just chat quietly among yourselves while we wait for the first
result).

d i time
0 0 real 5m 14.32s
0 1 real 2m 56.78s
1 0 real 5m 37.79s

Well, that wasn't so bad.  But still not what I hoped for.

I'm wondering if I got a lemon :-(
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Re: Car charger to GTA02

[Michael]

On 11/07/08 00:00:51, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to
> > the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post
> you
> > quoted was about the freerunner.
> 
> I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if 
> charger supports it).
Just to clear this up, I have read through the kernel source for the 
GTA01 pmu driver and there is no mention of 1000mA, but there is in the 
GTA02 driver. So either the PMU does not support it, or the kernel does 
not use this fature in its driver.

Michael.


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GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - First beta package

[Valerio Valerio]

Hi,

the first beta package of ReMoko are available now in:
http://code.google.com/p/remoko/downloads/list

Installation and usage instructions can be reached in this page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Bluetooth_remote_controller

I appreciate some feedback, specially from people that can test the app with
Windows Vista and Mac OSX.

The UI still very beta at the moment,  and I need some help to from people
with design skills :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Bluetooth_remote_controller#Need_help_in
:

Feel free to send me comments and features requests.

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Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[William Lai]

Dear Community,

We are proud to announce the release of Om 2008.8 for public reviewing. 
It represents our current state of development over the last 6 months. 
We came a long way before achieving this milestone.
Here is what you can expect:

- A stable and working phone stack realized by using Qtopia.
- A new and flexible window manager [Illume] that broadens our support 
for the different graphic libraries, including GTK+ and more.
- The whole system software has been reworked which leads to a very fast 
and reliable suspend & resume, LED control and power management.
- A graphical frontend [Installer] for package management as installing, 
removing or updating applications via repositories.
- Also included is an application which combines GPS and SMS [Locations] 
for easy sharing of locations among friends.

For detailed information about Om 2008.8 (including instructions, 
references and currently known issues) check out our wiki at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8

Please consider this a next step towards an open end user ready mobile
platform. We are not there yet but we will continue working towards that
direction. We invite you to install our latest release and give feedback:

http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.uImage.bin

Soon after our release we will publish frequent snapshots of our
builds to give you the possibility to follow our development and latest
fixes. You can join forces with our QA team by submitting bug reports 
and/or patches to make the platform as robust as possible.

We are excited about this release and look forward to moving together 
towards upcoming milestones.

Best Regards,

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Re: Tmobile GPRS

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:47:45 schrieb Angus Ainslie:
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sounds like there was a parsing error in ogsmd in between. I'd be
> > grateful for
> > debug logs. WIth the newest framework deamon (which I'm going to upload
> > to the updates feed on weekend), you can change debug log destination
> > while the
> > program is running -- that should simplify sending me logs.
>
> Is it just framework fixes or will there be some UI fixes ?

Only framework for now. As I've said UI has very low priority. Is there 
anything you want fixed in particular?

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Re: Is my freerunner defect?

[Rorschach]

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:37:21 +0100
Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> Have a look in here:
> 
> /sys/devices/platform/bq2700-battery.0/power_supply/bat/capacity
> 
> this is the estimate for percentage full on battery.  It can be wrong
> initially, I think it would be good to run the device for a while with
> just battery, then charge and then I think these estimates can be more
> realistic from coulomb counter.

Thanks for your answer! This shows me 98% after I loaded it for two hours with 
my external power suplly (not usb) :) 

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Re: FSO wifi power control

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:59:46 schrieb Angus Ainslie:
> Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the command line
> in FSO.

There is a WiFi object under the /org/freesmartphone/Device hierarchy which 
exports the PowerControl API.

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Tilman Baumann]

William Lai wrote:

> http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.uImage.bin

One should note that these images are most likely only working with 
freerunners.
At least this is what i think after looking at the file size of the root 
image.
Not very surprising since no ASU build ever worked for me on gta01 even 
these built for gta01.

People, please don't forget Neo 1993!
Why abandone the naming scheme for images?

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Ganesha Krishna]

Congratulations to Openmoko and every one involved, Great Job!

I am in office today just for your email (fast internet).
you have made my day.

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Wolfgang Spraul]

Maybe I should add that the binary Om 2008.8 release is for GTA02 only  
right now.
For GTA01, we have no big plan yet but we will look at it next. The  
biggest problem that stops us is that we are extremely low on GTA01  
phones :-)
I am only aware of 1 (ONE) functioning GTA01 in the Taipei office. A  
bit hard to do development and testing that way.
Next week we will look at the Om 2008.8 on GTA01 situation:

1. how many people want this?
2. does anyone in the community step up and compile the distribution  
for GTA01? (there will be some work: size reduction, GPS chip, etc)
3. can we support or do that from Taipei, do we find enough working  
GTA01?
4. how much work is it and how fast can we do it?

Also, the files on http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/ are a bit  
confusing.
There are 4 files there, but actually only 2. The other 2 are  
symlinks. The symlinks have no 'gta02' in the name giving you the  
impression it could be for GTA01 - but it isn't :-)
So there are only 2 files, and they only work for GTA02:

kernel: 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.uImage.bin
rootfs: 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.rootfs.jffs2

Finally, don't ask me where an updated u-boot is. I think we will add  
it shortly.
Best Regards,
Wolfgang

On Aug 8, 2008, at 7:03 PM, William Lai wrote:

> Dear Community,
>
> We are proud to announce the release of Om 2008.8 for public  
> reviewing.
> It represents our current state of development over the last 6 months.
> We came a long way before achieving this milestone.
> Here is what you can expect:
>
> - A stable and working phone stack realized by using Qtopia.
> - A new and flexible window manager [Illume] that broadens our support
> for the different graphic libraries, including GTK+ and more.
> - The whole system software has been reworked which leads to a very  
> fast
> and reliable suspend & resume, LED control and power management.
> - A graphical frontend [Installer] for package management as  
> installing,
> removing or updating applications via repositories.
> - Also included is an application which combines GPS and SMS  
> [Locations]
> for easy sharing of locations among friends.
>
> For detailed information about Om 2008.8 (including instructions,
> references and currently known issues) check out our wiki at:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8
>
> Please consider this a next step towards an open end user ready mobile
> platform. We are not there yet but we will continue working towards  
> that
> direction. We invite you to install our latest release and give  
> feedback:
>
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.uImage.bin
>
> Soon after our release we will publish frequent snapshots of our
> builds to give you the possibility to follow our development and  
> latest
> fixes. You can join forces with our QA team by submitting bug reports
> and/or patches to make the platform as robust as possible.
>
> We are excited about this release and look forward to moving together
> towards upcoming milestones.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Openmoko Team
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Re: Pulsters outstanding orders

[Christian Weßel]

I GOT IT :-)

First I will charge the battery and then I will update to Om 2008.8

I am happy, christian

Am Mittwoch, den 06.08.2008, 14:04 +0200 schrieb Christoph Pulster:
> > From: "Carcinoma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I'm not happy about writing this Mail, but i think there is not
> > better place.
> 
> How about emailing me ? :-) I am sure the ML here is bored to read the  
> status of each Pulster order.
> We are flooded with emails and orders, so again my apologises for the  
> sub-optimal support and late reply.
> Openmoko Inc. confirmed this morning our batch is shipped today.
> This means EVERYBODY who ordered with Pulster and got a confirmation,  
> will receive his Freerunner within August !
> 
> @nicolas: I will add a free headset for your bank charges.
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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Alexandre Ghisoli]

Le vendredi 08 août 2008 à 19:48 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul a écrit :
> Maybe I should add that the binary Om 2008.8 release is for GTA02 only  
> right now.
> For GTA01, we have no big plan yet but we will look at it next. The  
> biggest problem that stops us is that we are extremely low on GTA01  
> phones :-)
> I am only aware of 1 (ONE) functioning GTA01 in the Taipei office. A  
> bit hard to do development and testing that way.
> Next week we will look at the Om 2008.8 on GTA01 situation:
> 
> 1. how many people want this?
> 2. does anyone in the community step up and compile the distribution  
> for GTA01? (there will be some work: size reduction, GPS chip, etc)
> 3. can we support or do that from Taipei, do we find enough working  
> GTA01?
> 4. how much work is it and how fast can we do it?
> 

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Sugacapra]

hi there,

leo.studer wrote:
> 
> Just installed, I must be stupid because I can't see how to shift the
> keyboard towards figures, so actually I can't enter my SIM pin... that's
> strange, I must have missed something obvious...
> 
> 
> Ganesha Krishna wrote:
>> 
>> Congratulations to Openmoko and every one involved, Great Job!
>> 
>> I am in office today just for your email (fast internet).
>> you have made my day.
>> 
>> -GK
>> 
> 
> 

same here, i can't figure how to pass on numbers so i can't insert pin for
sim use, no gsm test
is possible... maybe i can't add me to "stupid group?" 
also, very congrats to the team, the work appear fantastic, at least at
first impression.

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Re: FSO wifi power control

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:59:46 schrieb Angus Ainslie:
|> Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the
command line
|> in FSO.
|
| There is a WiFi object under the /org/freesmartphone/Device hierarchy
which
| exports the PowerControl API.

But what does that actually do... it doesn't turn the thing off.  I
guess it sends some suspend command somehow to the firmware.

This /sys thing I mention uses a pin on the module to "turn it off" to
the point it does not react as an SDIO device even any more.  Then when
we deassert that, we need to scan it again.  In addition, this patch
makes it boot "turned off".

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Re: Car charger to GTA02

[Joerg Reisenweber]

Am Fr  8. August 2008 schrieb Michael:
> On 11/07/08 00:00:51, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> > > I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to
> > > the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post
> > you
> > > quoted was about the freerunner.
> > 
> > I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if 
> > charger supports it).
> Just to clear this up, I have read through the kernel source for the 
> GTA01 pmu driver and there is no mention of 1000mA, but there is in the 
> GTA02 driver. So either the PMU does not support it, or the kernel does 
> not use this fature in its driver.
> 
> Michael.

IIRC, PCF50606 can't do 1000mA, only PCF50633 can.
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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Tilman Baumann]

Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
> Maybe I should add that the binary Om 2008.8 release is for GTA02 only  
> right now.

Thank you for clearing that.

> 1. how many people want this?
Me :)
> 3. can we support or do that from Taipei, do we find enough working  
> GTA01?
I would happyly exchange mine for a freerunner. *g*


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Could someone explain me the + + + and the * at the bottom of the screen (Om 2008.8) ?

[Rorschach]

Hi,
in every menu I have at the bottom of the screen three + and left a * sign. I 
can't find out any funcionality with these things? What is their puprose?


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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[rakshat hooja]

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Sugacapra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> hi there,
>
> leo.studer wrote:
> >
> > Just installed, I must be stupid because I can't see how to shift the
> > keyboard towards figures, so actually I can't enter my SIM pin... that's
> > strange, I must have missed something obvious...
> >
>

Try flicking the keyboard up (sliding your finger up quickly in the
keyboard)

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Victor Chernyshev]

The same. I was waiting for this day thinking that it will be also
version for GTA01.

Alexandre Ghisoli wrote:

  Le vendredi 08 août 2008 à 19:48 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul a écrit :
  
  
Maybe I should add that the binary Om 2008.8 release is for GTA02 only  
right now.
For GTA01, we have no big plan yet but we will look at it next. The  
biggest problem that stops us is that we are extremely low on GTA01  
phones :-)
I am only aware of 1 (ONE) functioning GTA01 in the Taipei office. A  
bit hard to do development and testing that way.
Next week we will look at the Om 2008.8 on GTA01 situation:

1. how many people want this?
2. does anyone in the community step up and compile the distribution  
for GTA01? (there will be some work: size reduction, GPS chip, etc)
3. can we support or do that from Taipei, do we find enough working  
GTA01?
4. how much work is it and how fast can we do it?


  
  
I really like to have the Om2008.08 on my GTA01.

  





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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Sugacapra]

[quote]
Try flicking the keyboard up (sliding your finger up quickly in the
keyboard)

rakshat
[/quote]

whoa! thanks a lot and outstanding !
is the first "h" effect i see truly on my FR :D

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Some questions regarding om2008.2

[Dietz Proepper]

Hi,

having just installed the new images, some questions came up:

- where have the settings gone? (not the former expediture(sp??)) but
  the setting that were hidden behind the little wrench in the task
  switcher)
- where did the "cancel" button in the "enter pin" dialogue go?

apart from that, nice snapshot ;-).

kindest regards
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2008.8 password.

[William Kenworthy]

I have just installed 2008.8, looks pretty and fast compared to 2007.2.

I can ssh to the device, but cant log in.  Whats the default password? -
doesnt seem to be blank anymore.  and there isnt a terminal by default
so I can just change it :)

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Re: FSO ringtone

[Clemens Kirchgatterer]

Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * IK+ Music
> * R-Type Theme
> * Maniac Mansion Theme
> * RoboCop Music
> * Bubble Bobble Theme

where is "skate or die"? /me loves the 4 bit samples.

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Yorick Moko]

a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card...

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Sugacapra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [quote]
> Try flicking the keyboard up (sliding your finger up quickly in the
> keyboard)
>
> rakshat
> [/quote]
>
> whoa! thanks a lot and outstanding !
> is the first "h" effect i see truly on my FR :D
>
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Re: 2008.8 password.

[William Kenworthy]

ignore me - too excited.  Was trying to ssh back into the PC :)

BillK

On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 20:21 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> I have just installed 2008.8, looks pretty and fast compared to 2007.2.
> 
> I can ssh to the device, but cant log in.  Whats the default password? -
> doesnt seem to be blank anymore.  and there isnt a terminal by default
> so I can just change it :)
> 
> BillK
> 
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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Aaron Sowry]

>>
>> whoa! thanks a lot and outstanding !
>> is the first "h" effect i see truly on my FR :D
>>
>>
>> 
I like this image so far, it's starting to feel like a real operating 
system - a*HUGE* thanks from me to everyone involved. Two questions 
though, related to "h" effects:

1) Is this the first release to incorporate xglamo?
2) Is this about the best graphic performance we can expect from the 
Glamo/Freerunner? (not that it's particularly bad, it's just not perfect 
and I want to know where to set the bar :) )

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Re: Tmobile GPRS

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Freitag 08 August 2008 00:41:48 schrieb Fredrik Wendt:
> tor 2008-08-07 klockan 20:27 +0200 skrev Michael 'Mickey' Lauer:
> > Am Dienstag 05 August 2008 00:36:06 schrieb Fredrik Wendt:
> > > Sets up ppp with IP, DNS and (replaces) default route. However, after I
> > > disconnect (using mdbus PDP.DeactivateContext) zhone reports that
> > > there's no network signal - the signal strength bar is empty (black).
> > >
> > > /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: GetStatus failed:
> > > org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.Timeout
> > >
> > > Is there anything i should do, or avoid doing?
> >
> > Sounds like there was a parsing error in ogsmd in between. I'd be
> > grateful for debug logs. WIth the newest framework deamon (which I'm
> > going to upload to the updates feed on weekend), you can change debug log
> > destination while the program is running -- that should simplify sending
> > me logs.
>
> What logs do you want - frameworkd? logread > logs_for_mickey.txt?
> dmesg?

frameworkd and logread -f would be good. For full verbosity, add 
log_level=DEBUG to the subsystems found in /etc/frameworkd.conf

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opkg can't update in om2008.8?

[Dietz Proepper]

Hi,

"opkg update" on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to
be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then
it says "Failed to download etc.":

(the following trimmed to output from one archive only)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg update
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.gz
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.sig
Signature check failed
Collected errors:
 * Failed to download 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.gz, error 0
 * Failed to download 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.sig, error 0

Any idea?

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Om 2008.8 doesn't ask for my pin so no gsm available but 2007 and FSO 2 do?

[Rorschach]

I flashed the new kernel and image but if I boot now I'm not getting asked for 
a pin. There's no gsm in 2008.8 for me but with 2007 Image or the FSO 2 GSM is 
working just fine. Wheren can I look for the problem?

There are no logs in /var/log and also dmesg| grep -i gsm shows absolutly 
nothing. Also find . -name gsmd from the root-dir doesn't find anything ?? I 
flashed these images:
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.uImage.bin
and flashing worked fine without any errors.


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Re: FSO wifi power control

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Freitag 08 August 2008 13:20:30 schrieb Andy Green:
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:59:46 schrieb Angus Ainslie:
> |> Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the
>
> command line
>
> |> in FSO.
> |
> | There is a WiFi object under the /org/freesmartphone/Device hierarchy
>
> which
>
> | exports the PowerControl API.
>
> But what does that actually do... it doesn't turn the thing off.  I
> guess it sends some suspend command somehow to the firmware.

It turns the transmit power to 0, which -- according to Sameo -- when we 
talked about that some months ago was the best kind of "offness" the chip 
would offer us.

> This /sys thing I mention uses a pin on the module to "turn it off" to
> the point it does not react as an SDIO device even any more.  Then when
> we deassert that, we need to scan it again.  In addition, this patch
> makes it boot "turned off".

Amazing. I will use this then. Which sysfs node will it be exactly and will 
the pwron semantics be normal or inverted?

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Re: opkg can't update in om2008.8?

[arne anka]

> "opkg update" on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to
> be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then
> it says "Failed to download etc.":

please, post these issues on support!
there someone just noted that /etc/resolv.conf is empty -- you probably  
need to copy the one from your host pc.

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Re: opkg can't update in om2008.8?

[rakshat hooja]

Rakshat

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Dietz Proepper <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> "opkg update" on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to
> be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then
> it says "Failed to download etc.":
>
>
is it pinging? You will need to edit /etc/resolv.comf with the correct
nameserver address again.

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Re: opkg can't update in om2008.8?

[Dietz Proepper]

stupid $me - was a broken dns config ;-)

Dietz Proepper:
> Hi,
>
> "opkg update" on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to
> be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then
> it says "Failed to download etc.":
>
> (the following trimmed to output from one archive only)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg update
> Downloading
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.gz
> Downloading
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.sig
> Signature check failed
> Collected errors:
>  * Failed to download
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.gz, error
> 0 * Failed to download
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.sig, error
> 0
>
> Any idea?
>
> kindest regards,
>   Dietz
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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[digger vermont]

On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 19:03 +0800, William Lai wrote:
> Dear Community,
> 
> We are proud to announce the release of Om 2008.8 for public reviewing. 
> It represents our current state of development over the last 6 months. 
> We came a long way before achieving this milestone.

YAA HOO!

snip

> 
> Soon after our release we will publish frequent snapshots of our
> builds to give you the possibility to follow our development and latest
> fixes. You can join forces with our QA team by submitting bug reports 
> and/or patches to make the platform as robust as possible.


Will it also be possible to follow development through package updates?

Thanks for all the work!

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Re: Any opinions on purchasing from Koolu?

[Joe Janz]

If you're in Canada, go with Koolu.  I made the mistake of ordering
from the Openmoko store because the shipping with UPS was cheaper, but
it ended up being much more expensive when it arrived because of their
"brokerage fees" (it was something like $120).


Joe.

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Nick Van Fossen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've been trying to purchase a new 850 Freerunner for almost 2 weeks now, but 
> as you already know the openmoko online store still says they are to arrive 
> on July 25th...  The only two US distributors are Koolu, and gp2xstore.com.  
> Gp2xstore.com only lists the Neo 1973 - not freerunner, and has been ignoring 
> my e-mails for a week and a half, so I guess my only choice is Koolu.
>
> But, Koolu looks like they want to go a different direction with their phones 
> than Openmoko does by installing Android, Google Apps, and some other goodies 
> that I have no interest in.  I've been hesitant to purchase from them because 
> of this, but I'm wondering if anyone else has purchased an 850 Freerunner 
> from Koolu and how that went?  Did you get your phone?  Have any problems 
> with Koolu?  Do you have any problems installing any of the openmoko 
> builds/stacks?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

[Daniel Benoy]

Wow that sounds neat!  How hard would it be to create an apt repository on the 
openmoko build host using this?  Then we could just edit a config and run 
apt-get ^.^

On Friday 08 August 2008 04:30:17 Robert Schuster wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
> > Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and
> > debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily.
> If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set
> 
> INHERIT += "package_deb" (in your local.conf)
> 
> and then it will build .deb packages as well.
> 
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> 
> 



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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Olivier Berger]

"Yorick Moko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card...
>

I guess you may convert the contents of the JFFS2 to a tarball by
following bits explained here :
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/

In particular somthing like this on a desktop GNU/Linux (if you run
2.6 kernel) :

mknod /tmp/mtdblock0 b 31 0
modprobe loop
losetup /dev/loop0 Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2
modprobe mtdblock
modprobe block2mtd
echo "/dev/loop0" > /sys/module/block2mtd/parameters/block2mtd
modprobe jffs2
mount -t jffs2 /tmp/mtdblock0 /media/jffs2

USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISKS ;)

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Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

[Chris Wright]

2008/8/7 Stefan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:39, Craig B. Allen wrote:
>> If zhone is going to be around for a while, how can I make a request
>> for a new feature?
>
> Well, that depends a lot on what kind of feature request this is. As I wrote
> above, zhone is mostly to test our APIs and implementations. It's not targeted
> to fullfill all user needs yet. Basic phone functionality is the goal.
>
> If it is something in this area feel free to submit a ticket for it:
>
> http://trac.freesmartphone.org

I take it you'd accept patches to add features to zhone, even if
they're unrelated to the framework, no?

> regards
> Stefan Schmidt

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Olivier Berger]

Olivier Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Yorick Moko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card...
>>
>
> I guess you may convert the contents of the JFFS2 to a tarball by
> following bits explained here :
> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/
>
> In particular somthing like this on a desktop GNU/Linux (if you run
> 2.6 kernel) :
>
> mknod /tmp/mtdblock0 b 31 0
> modprobe loop
> losetup /dev/loop0 Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2
> modprobe mtdblock
> modprobe block2mtd
> echo "/dev/loop0" > /sys/module/block2mtd/parameters/block2mtd
> modprobe jffs2
> mount -t jffs2 /tmp/mtdblock0 /media/jffs2
>
> USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISKS ;)
>

I've just tried and install it like that on the SD's ext3 partition,
and copied the kernel to the first partition (VFAT).

But after booting, I'm stuck with a :
Kernel panic - not syncing: No int found. Try passing init= option to
kernel.

Too bad :( I'll have to flash ?

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

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| Wow that sounds neat!  How hard would it be to create an apt
| repository on the openmoko build host using this?  Then we could just
| edit a config and run apt-get ^.^

They're ahead of you, except we aren't hosting it afaik... the Debian
image comes with aptitude

http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/

set up already -- in my Fedora-centric terms this is like having yum
with the default repo already configured... it's great.  I guess it is
the whole Debian packageset out there and everything is configured for
"desktop / server" strength options.

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Re: Bad A2DP Performance

[Daniel Benoy]

On Wednesday 06 August 2008 00:17:31 Brad Midgley wrote:
> Daniel
> 
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I reported a problem to the openmoko bug tracker a little while ago and I 
> > haven't received any feedback yet.  I'm hoping I will get more feedback 
> > here.
> 
> there are two sources of possible trouble for quality, cpu load and
> timing of bluetooth frames.
> 
> The cpu is not likely the problem on neo. When driving it through the
> alsa driver, the neo1973 had really good a2dp performance even on
> older versions of bluez-utils, much better than the TI cpus (eg in the
> n800). Did you check the cpu load while playing? I don't have a
> freerunner, but the cpu is supposed to only be an improvement over the
> neo1973.
> 
> btw, what version of bluez-utils is in the system?
> 
> an aside, the gstreamer plugin has had a performance issue that burns
> a lot of cpu. I never did isolate it to either the encoder or
> transmission components. It isn't likely you're using the gstreamer
> route unless you specifically set out to do it that way.
> 

Here's everything I have installed that matched grep blue :p


blueprobe - 0.18-r3 -
bluez-hcidump - 1.38-r0 -
bluez-utils - 3.23-r4 -
bluez-utils-alsa - 3.23-r2 -
bluez-utils-compat - 3.23-r4 -
kernel-module-bluetooth - 
2:2.6.24+git29+2c55337cb0cde08203df321a108409b7e33e6904-r2 -
libbluetooth2 - 3.23-r0 -
task-base-bluetooth - 1.0-r71.02 -


I'll be sure to check the CPU usage next time I try it.

Packets start to drop when according to l2ping between the phone and the 
headphones while I'm using it as well.  I wonder if that means anything?

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Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Freitag 08 August 2008 15:49:51 schrieb Chris Wright:
> 2008/8/7 Stefan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:39, Craig B. Allen wrote:
> >> If zhone is going to be around for a while, how can I make a request
> >> for a new feature?
> >
> > Well, that depends a lot on what kind of feature request this is. As I
> > wrote above, zhone is mostly to test our APIs and implementations. It's
> > not targeted to fullfill all user needs yet. Basic phone functionality is
> > the goal.
> >
> > If it is something in this area feel free to submit a ticket for it:
> >
> > http://trac.freesmartphone.org
>
> I take it you'd accept patches to add features to zhone, even if
> they're unrelated to the framework, no?

100%

We _love_ patches!

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

[Daniel Benoy]

On Friday 08 August 2008 10:05:22 Andy Green wrote:
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | Wow that sounds neat!  How hard would it be to create an apt
> | repository on the openmoko build host using this?  Then we could just
> | edit a config and run apt-get ^.^
> 
> They're ahead of you, except we aren't hosting it afaik... the Debian
> image comes with aptitude
> 
> http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/
> 
> set up already -- in my Fedora-centric terms this is like having yum
> with the default repo already configured... it's great.  I guess it is
> the whole Debian packageset out there and everything is configured for
> "desktop / server" strength options.
> 
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Yeah what I'd like to see is the openmoko packages (like illume and qtopia-x11 
and such) ending up in an apt repository.  Currently they're only built as .ipk 
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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Martin Šenkeřík]

Maybe can help reflashing your u-boot with some actual version...


On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Olivier Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Olivier Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> "Yorick Moko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card...
>>>
>>
>> I guess you may convert the contents of the JFFS2 to a tarball by
>> following bits explained here :
>> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/
>>
>> In particular somthing like this on a desktop GNU/Linux (if you run
>> 2.6 kernel) :
>>
>> mknod /tmp/mtdblock0 b 31 0
>> modprobe loop
>> losetup /dev/loop0 Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2
>> modprobe mtdblock
>> modprobe block2mtd
>> echo "/dev/loop0" > /sys/module/block2mtd/parameters/block2mtd
>> modprobe jffs2
>> mount -t jffs2 /tmp/mtdblock0 /media/jffs2
>>
>> USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISKS ;)
>>
>
> I've just tried and install it like that on the SD's ext3 partition,
> and copied the kernel to the first partition (VFAT).
>
> But after booting, I'm stuck with a :
> Kernel panic - not syncing: No int found. Try passing init= option to
> kernel.
>
> Too bad :( I'll have to flash ?
>
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Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

[Stefan Schmidt]

Hello.

On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 09:49, Chris Wright wrote:
> 2008/8/7 Stefan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:39, Craig B. Allen wrote:
> >> If zhone is going to be around for a while, how can I make a request
> >> for a new feature?
> >
> > Well, that depends a lot on what kind of feature request this is. As I wrote
> > above, zhone is mostly to test our APIs and implementations. It's not 
> > targeted
> > to fullfill all user needs yet. Basic phone functionality is the goal.
> >
> > If it is something in this area feel free to submit a ticket for it:
> >
> > http://trac.freesmartphone.org
> 
> I take it you'd accept patches to add features to zhone, even if
> they're unrelated to the framework, no?

In a lot cases, yes. I would be a bit carefull about dumping to much in it as we
still need to be able to maintain it.

But yes, we are looking forward to patches. :)

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Re: opkg can't update in om2008.8?

[Julian Chu]

On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 06:22:46PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
> Rakshat
> 
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Dietz Proepper <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > "opkg update" on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to
> > be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then
> > it says "Failed to download etc.":
> >
> >
> is it pinging? You will need to edit /etc/resolv.comf with the correct
> nameserver address again.
> 
> Rakshat

Yes, Thanks for reply.

you can try something like that

echo "nameserver 168.95.1.1">/etc/resolv.conf 


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Quasar - Mediaplayer for Openmoko?

[Patrick Beck]

Hello,

i have no Neo Freerunner yet, but i look forward for a good mediaplayer.
I have searched the internet for Zaurus-Media-Players and found Quasar. 

http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/

It's a Qtopia-based-Application. Has anybody tested this player yet?

with kind regards

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Aapo Rantalainen]

I just change from FSO to OM 2008.8 and I think keyboard is not good as in
FSO. I mean, i need full-qwerty-with enter and backspace and arrows.
Keyboard layout switching with sliding works great. Backspacing with sliding
is cool but I think there should be button too.
I installed illume-conf, why there are no preinstalled keyboard?

I installed xterm and openmoko-terminal2. When I'm typing, the text not go
to terminal, instead it is collected top of keyboard and goes untill I
choose them.
 
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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Julian Chu]

On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 02:27:41PM +0200, Yorick Moko wrote:
> a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card...
> 

Hi,
I put the tar.gz file and hopes it helps  :-)

http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.tar.gz

by the way, is uboot file necessary ?

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Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride

[Peter Nijs]

You can find water-proof cases here. 
http://www.otterbox.be/index1.html?lang=nl&gclid=CJ3C0v_B_pQCFROI1Qod-hyCqg I 
haven't checked if it actually fits.

Peter Nijs

Op Monday 04 August 2008 05:27:14 schreef Tim Erwin:
> > I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog:
> > http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-
> >free/
>
> That looks great! Add a weather proof case/cover and a dynamo charger
> and that will make for some awesome riding.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: Bad A2DP Performance

[Brad Midgley]

Daniel

> Here's everything I have installed that matched grep blue :p
> bluez-utils - 3.23-r4 -
> bluez-utils-alsa - 3.23-r2 -
> I'll be sure to check the CPU usage next time I try it.

iirc, cpu performance is better in 3.25+ but I really don't think that
is going to improve your results at this point. It's a timing or
signal quality issue.

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Marek Lindner]

Hi,

> by the way, is uboot file necessary ?

I think it would be nice to have everything in one place.  :-)


Marek

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Om2008.8 and SIM-Pin

[Christian Weßel]

Hello,

I got my FR today and I flashed up to Om2008.8. The update works without
any problem.

After reboot I get the dialog for entering the SIM-Pin. But I can't
enter digits, just letters. For my pin I need digits.

What's wrong?
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Re: Om2008.8 and SIM-Pin

[rakshat hooja]

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Christian Weßel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I got my FR today and I flashed up to Om2008.8. The update works without
> any problem.
>
> After reboot I get the dialog for entering the SIM-Pin. But I can't
> enter digits, just letters. For my pin I need digits.
>
> What's wrong?
> --
>
> 


flick the keyboard up with your finger (slide your finger upwards quickly on
the keyboard)

is there a wiki page for the qtopia keyboard usage? will help a lot of new
users?





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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Michael Tansella]

On Friday 08 August 2008 13:03:32 William Lai wrote:
> Dear Community,
>
> We are proud to announce the release of Om 2008.8 for public reviewing.
> It represents our current state of development over the last 6 months.
> We came a long way before achieving this milestone.
> Here is what you can expect:

I think this should be additionally announced at the announce mailing list.

Thanks for everything
Greets
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Re: FSO ringtone

[Dale Maggee]

Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote:
> Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> * IK+ Music
>> * R-Type Theme
>> * Maniac Mansion Theme
>> * RoboCop Music
>> * Bubble Bobble Theme
>> 
>
> where is "skate or die"? /me loves the 4 bit samples.
>
> clemens
>   

Wow, it seems that there's a C64 game I haven't played! :O

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Re: Freerunner ?hibernates? while flashing?

[Peter Nijs]

I also have experienced this annoing shutdowns while I was in U-Boot, but not 
during flashing.

Peter

Op Thursday 07 August 2008 22:36:27 schreef Christophe Badoit:
> Rorschach a écrit :
> > Hi, when I go into the NOR-Flash to flash my rootfs or the kernel and
> > I do
>
> nothing for ~30 sec the screen gets dark. What happens? Is it just
> hibernating or shutting down?
>
> > I have to press the aux-button a lot but this is really annonying.
> > But
>
> the real question: what happens if I flash an image and do not press the
> aux-button all the time? The same like I'm just normal in the menu? So
> does it shutdown and abort the flashing while the transfer?
>
> I read in the wiki (don't know where / when) that :
>
> - uboot shuts down after 30s of inactivity
> - transferring via dfu prevents shutting down




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Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics

[Peter J. Holzer]

On 2008-08-08 10:00:44 +0800, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> Am Fr  8. August 2008 schrieb Joshua Broussard:
> > Suggest you pull the GTA01 and properly strip out the material
> > protected by NDA. I can see it in part by highlighting all text on
> > page.
>
> Sorry,
> I don't understand exactly what you're complaining about?

I think he's able to make some invisible text (e.g., white print on
white background) visible by selecting it and concludes that the
"hidden" text is protected by NDA and was not intended to be published.
Of course if he's right he should have contacted you privately instead
of making cryptic remarks on a public list.

hp

PS: I can't read any of the text in
http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/GTA01/Schematic_1973-GTA01_public_RC0.pdf
 
My acrobat reader complains about the missing font "Tahoma".

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Re: FSO: settings and profiles

[Fredrik Wendt]

Guillaume Chereau explained the implementation (again apparently):
> Alright,
> I will once again explain my current goal for the framework profile 
> implementation.[...]

You've captured everything I asked for (I posted my thoughts on devel
but didn't see any replies) so I'm pleased beyond my expectations and
hopes! It's nice to see YaML used this way too. :)

Thanks for explaining (sorry you had to do it yet again).

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Re: Om2008.8 and SIM-Pin

[Christian Weßel]

I check it before, but no digits appeared.
Due to other 'problems' ([1]FR freeces after setting clock to zone Paris
and the time [2]FR freeces after a while without any way to reactived
neither by pushing power button shortly nor touching the screen) I
currently swith back
to /Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 and the related
kernel.
Here I have an environment with terminal, etc. :-)

Am Freitag, den 08.08.2008, 21:10 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Christian Weßel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I got my FR today and I flashed up to Om2008.8. The update
> works without
> any problem.
> 
> After reboot I get the dialog for entering the SIM-Pin. But I
> can't
> enter digits, just letters. For my pin I need digits.
> 
> What's wrong?
> --
> 
> 
> flick the keyboard up with your finger (slide your finger upwards
> quickly on the keyboard)
> 
> is there a wiki page for the qtopia keyboard usage? will help a lot of
> new users? 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> and is also a very feature rich browser.
> www.firefox.com
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Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics

[Antoine Reid]

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [snip]


>hp
>
> PS: I can't read any of the text in
>
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/GTA01/Schematic_1973-GTA01_public_RC0.pdf
> My acrobat reader complains about the missing font "Tahoma".
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I get a similar complaint from my Adobe Reader but about a font named
"ARMingtiMBIG-5"  (BIG-5 sure sounds like some asian font (chinese?))


Antoine

PS: you may be able to find a free copy of Tahoma somewhere, google is your
friend... I couldn't easily find my missing font though.. (and I already had
Tahoma)

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Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics

[Kyle Bassett]

haha wow...it's been a long time in making, but you guys have finally done
it.  I really have to commend the entire OM staff for their true dedication!

I am seriously contemplating release of my own video entitled, "ROFLWS:
Rolling on floor laughing, with schematics!"

And only on this ML could I say something so bizarre as the above, and still
get chuckles... good job guys.

-Kyle

PS- and you never know, ROFLWS might just catch on :-P


On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Am Sa  2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber:
> > Am So  20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby:
> > > Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and
> > > component placements for the GTA01.
> > >
> > > Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world.
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > > -- Rod Whitby
> >
> >
> > PCB-layout is a little difficult to release - this is a multilayer PCB.
> > Component placement 01/02 TBD.
> > Schematics 01 TBD.
> > Needs some prettyprinting first. Also there are NDA-issues with TI
> Calypso.
> > Those parts of schematics we mustn't release you may find elsewhere
> though
> > (heard sth about Chinese books on cellphones ;)
> >
> > Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners.
> > cheers
> > jOERG
> >
>
> added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02
> see
> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg
> and
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/
>
> for some echo in press see
> http://www.google.de/search?q=openmoko+schematics
>
> please note this is a RC, not a "gold"
> Feel free to comment!
>
> cheers
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can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

[Dimitri]

I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected
fine, prior to ASU upgrade).

To establish usb networking I run this script as sudo in Ubuntu:

#!/bin/bash

iptables -F
ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0
route add 192.168.0.202 usb0
iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT
iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.200 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
bash -c echo '1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'


This allows me to ssh into the phone:
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But after I log in, I try
ping google.com
and it says it's a bad address.

And if I go to the Installer gui, it says there's a problem with my network.

ifconfig shows the following:

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:372 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:372 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:30168 (29.4 KiB)  TX bytes:30168 (29.4 KiB)

usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 26:89:D4:D8:38:1C
  inet addr:192.168.0.202  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::2489:d4ff:fed8:381c/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:388 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:186 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:46744 (45.6 KiB)  TX bytes:23237 (22.6 KiB)


I see a lot of RX/TX packet errors. Could that be a clue? What am I doing
wrong?

Dimitri
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Re: GPRS working with SIMYO

[Michael Shiloh]

Jakob Steltner wrote:
> Am Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:36:07 -0700
> schrieb Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> Michael Kluge wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Woo-hoo -- I managed to get an GPRS connection:
>>>
>> Please add your scripts and instructions to the wiki! This is
>> excellent information.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
> 
> I added my scripts for connecting to simyo to the wiki, I think they
> are originally based on his work.
> 
> ~ Jakob

Excellent - thanks very much

Michael

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Re: Bad A2DP Performance

[Daniel Benoy]

On Friday 08 August 2008 11:19:58 Brad Midgley wrote:
> Daniel
> 
> > Here's everything I have installed that matched grep blue :p
> > bluez-utils - 3.23-r4 -
> > bluez-utils-alsa - 3.23-r2 -
> > I'll be sure to check the CPU usage next time I try it.
> 
> iirc, cpu performance is better in 3.25+ but I really don't think that
> is going to improve your results at this point. It's a timing or
> signal quality issue.
> 

Apparently others are having problems too, it seems.  Perhaps the signal in the 
freerunner is underpowered?

Although I would have thought that with my headphones close enough to touch the 
phone it would have worked :/

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Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

[Rorschach]

Can it be that your /etc/resolv.conf is empty? Checkout the Known Issues: 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues


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tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

[Steven Kurylo]

Hi,

I just installed the latest tangogps (0.9.2-r1) on 2008.8.  Several
GUI widgets aren't drawing properly, which were fine on other
distributions.

On the bottom left hand corner I see "maps" but none of the other tabs
to the right are shown, its black.  However if I tap in the black
area, the page loads properly (trip, config, etc).  If I'm on the trip
page, I can see the trip tab, but the rest are black.

On the map page, the "fullscreen" button on the top is cut off.  I
also can't see the autocenter button.

Is this happening to other people with 2008.8?

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Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

[Daniel Benoy]

Actually it's saying Packets: X, Errors: Y (0 errors on the output you pasted)

Also, I'm not sure about what ASU does by default, but have you checked the 
default route?  The 'gateway 192.168.0.200' line in /etc/network/interfaces 
should be under usb0, and you should see it when you run 'ip route show' 
(default via ADDRESS dev usb0).  Google should also be able to provide you more 
information about how to set and examine default routes.

If it's a freerunner, you may also want to consider getting it on a wireless 
network for simplicity's sake.

On Friday 08 August 2008 13:00:27 Dimitri wrote:
> 
> I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected
> fine, prior to ASU upgrade).
> 
> To establish usb networking I run this script as sudo in Ubuntu:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> iptables -F
> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0
> route add 192.168.0.202 usb0
> iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT
> iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.200 -j ACCEPT
> iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
> bash -c echo '1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
> 
> 
> This allows me to ssh into the phone:
> ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> But after I log in, I try
> ping google.com
> and it says it's a bad address.
> 
> And if I go to the Installer gui, it says there's a problem with my network.
> 
> ifconfig shows the following:
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:372 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:372 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>   RX bytes:30168 (29.4 KiB)  TX bytes:30168 (29.4 KiB)
> 
> usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 26:89:D4:D8:38:1C
>   inet addr:192.168.0.202  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   inet6 addr: fe80::2489:d4ff:fed8:381c/64 Scope:Link
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:388 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:186 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>   RX bytes:46744 (45.6 KiB)  TX bytes:23237 (22.6 KiB)
> 
> 
> I see a lot of RX/TX packet errors. Could that be a clue? What am I doing
> wrong?
> 
> Dimitri



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Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

[Dimitri]

Daniel Benoy wrote:
> 
> have you checked the default route?  The 'gateway 192.168.0.200' line in
> /etc/network/interfaces should be under usb0, and you should see it when
> you run 'ip route show' (default via ADDRESS dev usb0).
> 

I think it's set up properly. I get the following when I run: ip route show

192.168.0.0/24 dev usb0  src 192.168.0.202
default via 192.168.0.200 dev usb0

And, I get the following when I run: cat /etc/network/interfaces

# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)

# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# Wireless interfaces
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wireless_mode managed
wireless_essid any
iface atml0 inet dhcp

# Wired or wireless interfaces
iface eth0 inet dhcp
iface eth1 inet dhcp

# Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
# ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
auto usb0
iface usb0 inet static
address 192.168.0.202
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
gateway 192.168.0.200

# Bluetooth networking
iface bnep0 inet dhcp


Daniel Benoy wrote:
> 
> If it's a freerunner, you may also want to consider getting it on a
> wireless network for simplicity's sake.
> 

Under settings, it says "WiFi" but doesn't say "on" OR "off". It's just
blank. And if I click it, it says "WiFi   unknown".

Anyway... one problem at a time, right? :)

Dimitri
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Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2

[Fredrik Wendt]

> Please wikify this information

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO

Feel free to change.

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Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2

[Michael Shiloh]

Fredrik Wendt wrote:
>> Please wikify this information
> 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO
> 
> Feel free to change.

Lovely.
Thank you very much!

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Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

[Tick Chen]

Hi Dimitri, 
For USB connection you may try 
http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/tick/Test_env_script_GTA02A5/setneo

If you want wifi connection, you may try to reference:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Installer#Add_repository_manually
for geek part. :-)
in WEP please assign the key
e.g. iwconfig eth0 essid X key [1] 987654310
That works for me. 

Cheers, 
Tick

On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:00:27AM -0700, Dimitri wrote:
> 
> I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected
> fine, prior to ASU upgrade).
> 
> To establish usb networking I run this script as sudo in Ubuntu:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> iptables -F
> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0
> route add 192.168.0.202 usb0
> iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT
> iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.200 -j ACCEPT
> iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
> bash -c echo '1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
Skip
> 
> I see a lot of RX/TX packet errors. Could that be a clue? What am I doing
> wrong?
> 
> Dimitri
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Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

[Geoff Ruscoe]

Yes Also I had it crash many times while on the config page.  I was trying
to set it to use my previously downloaded maps in the /media/card/Maps/osm
directory.  And it crashes with the popup about reporting the error.



On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just installed the latest tangogps (0.9.2-r1) on 2008.8.  Several
> GUI widgets aren't drawing properly, which were fine on other
> distributions.
>
> On the bottom left hand corner I see "maps" but none of the other tabs
> to the right are shown, its black.  However if I tap in the black
> area, the page loads properly (trip, config, etc).  If I'm on the trip
> page, I can see the trip tab, but the rest are black.
>
> On the map page, the "fullscreen" button on the top is cut off.  I
> also can't see the autocenter button.
>
> Is this happening to other people with 2008.8?
>
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Re: Quasar - Mediaplayer for Openmoko?

[Lorn Potter]

Patrick Beck wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> i have no Neo Freerunner yet, but i look forward for a good mediaplayer.
> I have searched the internet for Zaurus-Media-Players and found Quasar. 
> 
> http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/
> 
> It's a Qtopia-based-Application. Has anybody tested this player yet?

Probably not, as it is for Qtopia 2, and would most likely have to be 
rewritten for Qtopia 4.



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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Dave Vehrs]

Thanks for the update but its got a few issues.

For starters why was the terminal removed from the default image?
This is a beta linux device, there are a ton of time having a terminal
is a good thing.  And I'm not always someplace I can plug it in.

Second, whats with the constant run to hibernate in 6 seconds?   Even
if plugged into USB, it hibernates.   And why does it drop the USB-net
connection when it hibernates?

While this release is prettier, I haven't been able to even make one
call with it.

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Re: Quasar - Mediaplayer for Openmoko?

[Patrick Beck]

Hello Lorn,

thanks for your answer. It's a pity.

with kind regards

Patrick Beck

Am Samstag, den 09.08.2008, 04:30 +1000 schrieb Lorn Potter:
> Patrick Beck wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > i have no Neo Freerunner yet, but i look forward for a good mediaplayer.
> > I have searched the internet for Zaurus-Media-Players and found Quasar. 
> > 
> > http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/
> > 
> > It's a Qtopia-based-Application. Has anybody tested this player yet?
> 
> Probably not, as it is for Qtopia 2, and would most likely have to be 
> rewritten for Qtopia 4.
> 
> 
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Upgrading on Qtopia

[Matthew Lane]

Hey all,

I've read that opkg can't upgrade qtopia, but it should be able to 
upgrade my kernel, correct?

Well, when I do opkg update, opkg upgrade my phone will spend about 
20-30 minutes updating everything (from the latest qtopia image on 
trolltech's website) and I need a lot of those packages (such as 
libc++6) for running other scripts on qtopia.  Anyways, after upgrading, 
I restart my phone and it freezes on the blank black screen with a 
cursor in the upper left corner.  The phone won't ever boot!  So I have 
to reflash the lastest image I just tried to upgrade.  I've attempted 
this twice, and I can't upgrade my phone!

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

[Robert Schuster]

Hi,

Daniel Benoy schrieb:
> Wow that sounds neat!  How hard would it be to create an apt repository on 
> the openmoko build host using this?  Then we could just edit a config and run 
> apt-get ^.^
It is not hard. In fact for Jalimo we are packaging OE-built packages
for Maemo: http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/maemo/

You can find information on how to set up a repo on the Debian website.
Basically you have to set up the correct folders and then run the
following programs across it:

dpkg-scanpackages -a armel pool/${1} /dev/null | gzip -c9 >
dists/${1}/user/binary-armel/Packages.gz

dpkg-scansources pool/${1} /dev/null | gzip -c9 >
dists/${1}/user/binary-armel/Sources.gz

${1} is the distro name. That would be "2008.08" for the OpenMoko OS. :)

However you should know that OpenMoko is tailored to work with opkg. I
am not sure what will break if you use dpkg and apt-get/aptitude on it.

I would also modify the openmoko image definition to not include opkg
and instead apt. Angstrom - the distro - OpenMoko is derived from - has
support for .deb packages. Perhaps the easiest way is to look how it is
done there.

Btw: OE can also create RPMs. :)

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Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

[Matthew Lane]

ian douglas wrote:
> Ken Restivo wrote:
>   
>> They actually hire people to sit around and snoop people's UserAgent strings?
>> 
>
> It's easy to automate since surfing non-SSL sites should send your HTTP
> headers in plain text, so they you can simply watch the packets and keep
> track of data counts, browsers, etc. for each wireless account.
>
>   
>>> Their unlimited data plan used to be $20/month but they raised it to $30 
>>> for the new iPhone. Tethering adds even more because they expect that 
>>> you'll be downloading much more data than users who don't tether.
>>>   
>> So "unlimited data" isn't "unlimited" at all?
>> 
>
> As far as I've seen, personally, it's unlimited. Of course, I tend not
> to tether my AT&T phone to my laptop and download ISO-sized files or
> anything. I'm sure if you reach a certain amount of traffic, they'll
> notice you. Last month I only downloaded about 60MB on my phone.
>
>   
>> But I'm told that Sprint Metro PCS allows unlimited data, and tethering, for 
>> US$60/mo
>> 
>
> That's slightly cheaper than AT&T then, who charges me $69/month for
> unlimited data plus tethering.
>
> -id
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Instead of just tethering couldn't you set up a proxy server on your OM 
and since the user agent is in plain text, change firefox to minimo? I 
imagine the user agent signatures are pretty similar.

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Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

[Charles Pax]

Will this be shipping with the next batch of Freerunners?

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Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2

[C R McClenaghan]

I have copied Fredrik's shell scripts to my FR with FSO MS2 and find  
that they work much better than my own. I'll have to find some other  
way to contribute.

Chris
On Aug 8, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote:

>
>
> Fredrik Wendt wrote:
>>> Please wikify this information
>>
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO
>>
>> Feel free to change.
>
> Lovely.
> Thank you very much!
>
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full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?

[Arne Zachlod]

Hello there!

i like the new look of the freerunner, but what i don't like is the 
keyboard. is there a possibility to re-install a full qwerty KB or 
something like that? navigate in terminal with the standard-kb is terrible.

thanks, Arne

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Re: Upgrading on Qtopia

[Aaron Sowry]

Matthew Lane wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I've read that opkg can't upgrade qtopia, but it should be able to 
> upgrade my kernel, correct?
>
> Well, when I do opkg update, opkg upgrade my phone will spend about 
> 20-30 minutes updating everything (from the latest qtopia image on 
> trolltech's website) and I need a lot of those packages (such as 
> libc++6) for running other scripts on qtopia.  Anyways, after upgrading, 
> I restart my phone and it freezes on the blank black screen with a 
> cursor in the upper left corner.  The phone won't ever boot!  So I have 
> to reflash the lastest image I just tried to upgrade.  I've attempted 
> this twice, and I can't upgrade my phone!
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Thank you - I thought I was the only one. I registered this as a bug on 
Trac (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1756) but more or less got 
told to go ask Trolltech about it, which is fair enough I suppose. It 
would still be nice to get a fix for this however.

Aaron

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Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

[Andy Green]

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ipv6 is up, does it make trouble on you local network?

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dmesg

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Re: Upgrading on Qtopia

[Lorn Potter]

Matthew Lane wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I've read that opkg can't upgrade qtopia, but it should be able to 
> upgrade my kernel, correct?

Thats correct, Qtopia's 4.3 build system does not make a complete ipkg 
for easy upgrade. This will change in 4.4

> 
> Well, when I do opkg update, opkg upgrade my phone will spend about 
> 20-30 minutes updating everything (from the latest qtopia image on 
> trolltech's website) and I need a lot of those packages (such as 
> libc++6) for running other scripts on qtopia.  Anyways, after upgrading, 
> I restart my phone and it freezes on the blank black screen with a 
> cursor in the upper left corner.  The phone won't ever boot!  So I have 
> to reflash the lastest image I just tried to upgrade.  I've attempted 
> this twice, and I can't upgrade my phone!

There is a new image at qtopia.net. This new one _should_ be able to 
upgrade the system.

As well, there is a qtopia binary only tarball which has a script to 
update just qtopia in case you don't want to backup your settings.



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Re: Which AT&T data plans are compatible?

[Federico Lorenzi]

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Matthew Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Instead of just tethering couldn't you set up a proxy server on your OM
> and since the user agent is in plain text, change firefox to minimo? I
> imagine the user agent signatures are pretty similar.

I had a similar situation with Vodafone in Italy. They disallowed
tethering and blocked all non port 80 / 443, and seemed to disallow
any other user agent strings besides mobile browesers. But if you have
a server somewhere that has SSH, an easy enough solution is just to
use ProxyTunnel to tunnel SSH over HTTPS (due to the way SSL proxies
work). For the real paranoid, check out SSH over SSL over SSL, where
you run your own SSL proxy server, which then gets connected to by the
network's proxy, and then forwards everything to your local SSH
server. This pretty much makes the traffic indestinguashable from
legit SSL traffic.

HTH,
Federico

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Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

[Michael Sheldon]

Steven Kurylo wrote:

Hi,

I just installed the latest tangogps (0.9.2-r1) on 2008.8.  Several
GUI widgets aren't drawing properly, which were fine on other
distributions.

On the bottom left hand corner I see "maps" but none of the other tabs
to the right are shown, its black.  However if I tap in the black
area, the page loads properly (trip, config, etc).  If I'm on the trip
page, I can see the trip tab, but the rest are black.

On the map page, the "fullscreen" button on the top is cut off.  I
also can't see the autocenter button.

Is this happening to other people with 2008.8?


 Yes, the gtk theme is a bit buggy, attached my own fixed gtkrc which 
reduces the inner button borders to a reasonable size and fixes the 
background colour of inactive notebook tabs.


 This makes both tangogps and some other GTK apps much more usable.

 You can either install it by overwriting 
/usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc or I think by sticking it in 
~/.gtkrc-2.0


 Cheers,
  Mike.
# Moko GTK+ theme
#
# Copyright 2007 OpenedHand Ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Based on OpenedHand's Sato GTK+ Theme
#
# This theme uses several style properties introduced in GTK+ 2.10
#
# black: #33
# orange: #ff7d00
#

gtk-button-images = 0
gtk-menu-images = 0
gtk-icon-sizes = 
"gtk-button=32,32:gtk-small-toolbar=48,48:gtk-large-toolbar=48,48"

# Set the default gtk-color-scheme property
gtk_color_scheme = 
"fg_color:#000;bg_color:#f4f0f4;base_color:#fff;text_color:#000;selected_bg_color:#ff7d00;selected_fg_color:#000"

style "default"
{

  xthickness = 2
  ythickness = 2

  GtkButton::default_border = {0, 0, 0, 0}
  GtkButton::focus-line-width = 0
  GtkCheckButton::indicator-size = 35
  GtkCheckButton::indicator-spacing = 5
  GtkCheckMenuItem::indicator_size = 18
  GtkEntry::inner_border = {10, 10, 10, 10}
  GtkFrame::shadow_type = GTK_SHADOW_NONE
  GtkPaned::handle-size = 16
  GtkRange::slider-width = 28
  GtkRange::trough_border = 0
  GtkScale::slider-length = 56
  GtkScrollbar::has_backward_stepper = 1
  GtkScrollbar::has_forward_stepper = 1
  GtkScrollbar::has_secondary_backward_stepper = 1
  GtkScrollbar::has_secondary_forward_stepper = 1
  GtkScrollbar::slider_width = 30
  GtkScrollbar::stepper_size = 26
  GtkScrollbar::stepper_spacing = 0
  GtkSpinButton::shadow_type = GTK_SHADOW_NONE
  GtkTreeView::allow_rules = 1
  GtkTreeView::even_row_color = "#fff"
  GtkTreeView::odd_row_color = "#e7e7e7"
  GtkTreeView::vertical_separator = 6
  GtkWidget::focus_line_width = 2
  GtkWidget::focus_padding = 0
  GtkWidget::scroll-arrow-vlength = 48
  GtkWidget::scroll-arrow-hlength = 48

  MokoDialerTextview::large_font = 20
  MokoDialerTextview::medium_font = 15
  MokoDialerTextview::medium_font = 15
  MokoDialerTextview::small_font = 10


  fg [NORMAL] = @fg_color
  fg [PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
  fg [ACTIVE] = @selected_fg_color
  fg [INSENSITIVE] = @fg_color
  fg [SELECTED] = @selected_fg_color

  bg [NORMAL] = @bg_color
  bg [PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
  bg [ACTIVE] = @selected_bg_color
  bg [INSENSITIVE] = lighter (@bg_color)
  bg [SELECTED] = @selected_bg_color

  text [NORMAL] = @text_color
  text [PRELIGHT] = @text_color
  text [SELECTED] = @text_color
  text [ACTIVE] = @text_color

  base [NORMAL] = @base_color
  base [SELECTED] = @selected_bg_color
  base [ACTIVE] = @base_color

  engine "moko-engine" {
border = TRUE
  }
}

class "GtkWidget" style "default"

style "reversed"
{
  bg[NORMAL] = @fg_color
  fg[NORMAL] = @bg_color

  bg[PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
  fg[PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
}
widget_class "*GtkButton*" style "reversed"

style "button"
{
  GtkButton::inner_border = {1, 1, 1, 1}
  engine "moko-engine" {
border = TRUE
gradient = TRUE
  }
}
class "GtkButton" style "button"

style "button-colors" {
  bg[NORMAL] = "#333"
  fg[NORMAL] = "#fff"

  bg[PRELIGHT] = "#333"
  fg[PRELIGHT] = "#fff"
}
widget_class "GtkButton*" style "button-colors"

style "treeview-header" {

  # inner-border was added in GTK+ 2.10
  GtkButton::inner_border = {0, 0, 0, 0}

  bg[NORMAL] = "#eee"
  fg[NORMAL] = "#000"

  bg[PRELIGHT] = "#eee"
  fg[PRELIGHT] = "#000"

  engine "moko-engine" {
border = FALSE
gradient = TRUE
  }
}
widget_class "*GtkTreeView.GtkButton*" style "treeview-header"

style "combo" {
  bg[NORMAL] = @selected_bg_color
  text[NORMAL] = @selected_fg_color

  bg[PRELIGHT] = @selected_bg_color
  text[PRELIGHT] = @selected_fg_color

  engine "moko-engine" {
gradient = TRUE
  }
}
widget_class "*Combo*" style "combo"

style "toolbar"
{
  GtkToolbar::internal_padding = 0
  xthickness = 0
  ythickness = 0

  engine "moko-engine" {
gradient = TRUE
border = FALSE
  }
}
class "GtkToolbar" style "toolbar"
class "GtkToolbar" style "reversed"

style "toolitem"
{
  xthickness = 12
  ythickness = 12

  bg[NORMAL] = @selected_bg_color
  fg[NORMAL] = @selected_fg_color

  # toolbar colours are reversed
  bg[PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
  fg[PRELIGHT] = @bg_color

  engine "moko-engine" {
gradient = TRUE
border = FALSE
  }
}
widget_