Re: [CGUYS] french

[Christopher Range]

Admiral Harris wrote:


Last time I went, all I needed was a plug adapter.

And you can select the azerty keyboard in any version of Windows. 


Exactly

Christopher


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Re: [CGUYS] MHTML: what's up with that?

[Chris Dunford]

What did MS do wrong here, exactly?


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Re: [CGUYS] french

[Admiral Harris]

Last time I went, all I needed was a plug adapter.

And you can select the azerty keyboard in any version of Windows.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] french


For a laptop I think all they will need is a different power cord to 
the brick.  DOUBLE CHECK FOR SURE.


Stewart


At 08:04 PM 4/22/2008, you wrote:

>Also, They will need a converter for the power.  U.S. voltage is 120V.
>In Europe it is 240V.

Don't buy anything that does not have a universal power supply. You don't
want to be lugging a heavy power converter.


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Re: [CGUYS] french

[Christopher Range]

Tom Piwowar wrote:

Don't buy anything that does not have a universal power supply. You 
don't want to be lugging a heavy power converter.


Tom, At first I would agree with you, if the converters were monstrous, 
but they aren't.  They are smaller than the power cord used to recharge 
a laptop.


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Re: [CGUYS] IBM Tests: 86% Ask to Keep the Mac

[Tom Piwowar]

>Yes, I read the story. The numbers speak for themselves. Out of a
>company presumably of thousands, 19 wanted to run Windows on Mac
>hardware.

Tony wrote out of "presumably of thousands, 19" when actually it was 19 
out of 22 that favored the Mac.

Tony wrote they "wanted to run Windows on Mac" when nothing of the kind 
was in the report. The mention of Windows was in the context of providing 
a safety net just in case they had to run something that only ran on 
Windows. While such software does exist we all know that is an unlikely. 
There is plenty of Mac software to meet virtually any need. The only 
problem software is the stuff specifically written to be incompatable and 
that stuff is usually of very low quality.

I guess Tony thinks we are too stupid to notice the difference.

The way Tony spins the facts to his own bizarre view looks like a 
political spinmeister, not like someone looking objectively at technical 
facts.


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Re: [CGUYS] french

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

For a laptop I think all they will need is a different power cord to 
the brick.  DOUBLE CHECK FOR SURE.


Stewart


At 08:04 PM 4/22/2008, you wrote:

>Also, They will need a converter for the power.  U.S. voltage is 120V.
>In Europe it is 240V.

Don't buy anything that does not have a universal power supply. You don't
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Re: [CGUYS] Reformatting a drive for a Mac

[Tom Piwowar]

>USB or Fire Wire?

You don't have to reformat the drive. The Mac can probably handle it. If 
you have a gig or more of files I would reformat because the files will 
transfer a lot faster.


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Re: [CGUYS] french

[Tom Piwowar]

>Also, They will need a converter for the power.  U.S. voltage is 120V.  
>In Europe it is 240V.

Don't buy anything that does not have a universal power supply. You don't 
want to be lugging a heavy power converter.


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Re: [CGUYS] MHTML: what's up with that?

[Jordan]

I am no authority on these things but I think it's safe to rely on 
wikipedia for information about this sort of thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHTML
Apparently Firefox won't like it without a specific extension(windows 
and Linux only) but Thunderbird will.

Good old ms!

Constance Warner wrote:

My boss just sent me some documents downloaded from the Web via Internet
Explorer, to be posted on an online library site for association members
to see and download.

 


The documents are in MHTML format-whatever that is.  When you click on
them, they open in Internet Explorer.

 


As a rule, whenever I get downloaded webpages to be put in the online
library, I put them in a format that's easy for members to use and that
interfaces well with the online library website's architecture. I
usually copy and paste the content of a copied webpage into a Word
document.  I was able to get the content out of these documents using
this procedure; but some of the documents will have bells and whistles
that probably can't be expressed in Word.

 


So here's what I'm wondering: is there any way to open MHTML documents
with any other program (besides Internet Exploder)?  Is there any way to
make such documents into PDF documents?

 


And, most importantly, will the computers (of the people who use the
online library) be exposed to any danger when they are forced to use
Internet Exploder to open and read the documents?

 


For once, I'm not worried about copyright problems or the security of
the documents themselves-they're U.S. government documents, in the
public domain, and presumably safe.

 

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Re: [CGUYS] Reformatting a drive for a Mac

[Tom Piwowar]

A common reason for this happening is that some Mac's USB ports can't 
deliver enough current to run the drive. Have you tried it with  a power 
supply or connected to a powered hub?

>USB
>
>OK, I can get the drive to recognize on someone else's Mac (running OS 
>10.4.11, same as mine).  It still won't register on mine.
>
>A client gave me a Western Digital Passport external drive to copy file 
>to.  It's formatted for Windows, & the files are on my laptop Mac.  I 
>can't get the Mac to recognize the drive, much less re-format it for a 
>Mac.  I can re-format on the PC, but still can't get the Mac to recognize 
>it.  tia.


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Re: [CGUYS] iTunes blues

[MrMike6by9]

I have found that the web site www.ilounge.com  has
a large amount of very helpful iTunes and iPod tips and tricks. I recently
helped a friend move his library from an old laptop to a new one without
much drama. He was even able to rebuild his preferences and smart folders
relatively quickly, The longest time was spent waiting for the computers to
copy the data files.

YMMV

Date:Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:53:25 -0400
> From:"Richardson, Sharon Y." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: iTunes blues (in the beginning)
>
> This is the ultimate value of the Computer Guys listserv!!  All of the
> collective wisdom out there. A HUGE thank-you to Tom Piwowar for your
> succinct suggestions. Of course, I feel like the biggest dummy for not
> realizing that the community of iTunes users would have all sorts of
> ideas/advice for what I was planning to do and for not Google-ing to see
> what might be available.
>



> I'll attempt the suggestions this weekend and HOPEFULLY have some good
> (or, at least, not bad) news to share with everyone later. Thanks again,
> to everyone who responded!!!
>
> Sharon Richardson
>
>
-- 
We have to abandon the idea that schooling is something restricted to youth.
How can it be, in a world where half the things a man knows at 20 are no
longer true at 40 -- and half the things he knows at 40 hadn't been
discovered when he was 20?

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Re: [CGUYS] french

[Christopher Range]

rlsimon wrote:


I want to buy a notebook with french keyboard layout (azerty) and french 
language version of windows (probably xp pro) to take with me as a gift for a 
family member in the EU ...can I buy that here in the USA ?  ...neebodee know 
whereat?

Since they are family member living in France, I would suggest, just 
getting a regular U.S. laptop and, have the software installed, that 
will translate english into french, as it is being typed.  Instead of 
buying a keyboard with the french markings on it.


Also, They will need a converter for the power.  U.S. voltage is 120V.  
In Europe it is 240V.


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Re: [CGUYS] IBM Tests: 86% Ask to Keep the Mac

[Tony B]

Yes, I read the story. The numbers speak for themselves. Out of a
company presumably of thousands, 19 wanted to run Windows on Mac
hardware.

But the hilarious part is Tom's (and Dan's)  spin on the whole thing,
making it sound like the Mac was taking over or something!

Again, what the story lacked was any kind of report on the Linux
group, only mentioning it briefly in passing. Don't change the subject
to a Mac OSX vs Vista debate, because I don't see Vista in my future
either, and will not be put in any kind of a position defending it.


On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:07 PM, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tony,
>
>  Did you read the story?
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 19 of 22 (86%) Users Ask to Keep the Mac. However, when asked if
> > > > they would rather keep their MacBook Pro or return to using their
> > > > familiar ThinkPad, only three chose the ThinkPad; the rest
> > > > decided to keep the Mac laptop and obtain VMWare Fusion licenses
> > > > to run Windows when necessary.


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Re: [CGUYS] MHTML: what's up with that?

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

MHTML is a packaged format.  It takes all components and makes them one page.

I use it all the time otherwise you get a web page and a directory to 
save all the components.


All you need to do to open it with another web browser is right click 
and do like you would with any other extension you want to open with 
a particular program.


To make a PDF do like you normally would open it in your browser and 
then click print and choose your PDF program.


I use PDF995

Stewart


At 04:48 PM 4/22/2008, you wrote:

My boss just sent me some documents downloaded from the Web via Internet
Explorer, to be posted on an online library site for association members
to see and download.



The documents are in MHTML format-whatever that is.  When you click on
them, they open in Internet Explorer.



As a rule, whenever I get downloaded webpages to be put in the online
library, I put them in a format that's easy for members to use and that
interfaces well with the online library website's architecture. I
usually copy and paste the content of a copied webpage into a Word
document.  I was able to get the content out of these documents using
this procedure; but some of the documents will have bells and whistles
that probably can't be expressed in Word.



So here's what I'm wondering: is there any way to open MHTML documents
with any other program (besides Internet Exploder)?  Is there any way to
make such documents into PDF documents?



And, most importantly, will the computers (of the people who use the
online library) be exposed to any danger when they are forced to use
Internet Exploder to open and read the documents?



For once, I'm not worried about copyright problems or the security of
the documents themselves-they're U.S. government documents, in the
public domain, and presumably safe.



--Constance Warner







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[CGUYS] MHTML: what's up with that?

[Constance Warner]

My boss just sent me some documents downloaded from the Web via Internet
Explorer, to be posted on an online library site for association members
to see and download.

 

The documents are in MHTML format-whatever that is.  When you click on
them, they open in Internet Explorer.

 

As a rule, whenever I get downloaded webpages to be put in the online
library, I put them in a format that's easy for members to use and that
interfaces well with the online library website's architecture. I
usually copy and paste the content of a copied webpage into a Word
document.  I was able to get the content out of these documents using
this procedure; but some of the documents will have bells and whistles
that probably can't be expressed in Word.

 

So here's what I'm wondering: is there any way to open MHTML documents
with any other program (besides Internet Exploder)?  Is there any way to
make such documents into PDF documents?

 

And, most importantly, will the computers (of the people who use the
online library) be exposed to any danger when they are forced to use
Internet Exploder to open and read the documents?

 

For once, I'm not worried about copyright problems or the security of
the documents themselves-they're U.S. government documents, in the
public domain, and presumably safe.

 

--Constance Warner 

 

 



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Re: [CGUYS] Reformatting a drive for a Mac

[Stephen Brownfield]

David,
  Even though your Mac doesn't recognize it, have you tried 
running "Disk Utility" to see if it recognizes it?  I have had Disk 
Utility recognize volumes that would not mount and then it was able to 
reformat them.


Steve



David Turk wrote:

OK, I can get the drive to recognize on someone else's Mac (running OS 10.4.11, 
same as mine).  It still won't register on mine.

   david

A client gave me a Western Digital Passport external drive to copy file to.  It's 
formatted for Windows, & the files are on my laptop Mac.  I can't get the Mac 
to recognize the drive, much less re-format it for a Mac.  I can re-format on the 
PC, but still can't get the Mac to recognize it.  tia.

david


David Turk

Manager, Preservation Imaging Services

Indiana Historical Society
Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center

450 W. Ohio St.

Indianapolis, IN  46202

(317) 232-4592

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Re: [CGUYS] French

[Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.]

Actually, you should be able to buy one from ACER or Dell Direct.  

Eschew Obfuscation

This is a reply from: 
Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. 
  Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services
for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization

  703.548.1343 voice 
  703.783.1340 fax 
  

>From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we
are YOUR adjuvancy

-Original Message-
From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of rlsimon
Sent: 04/22/2008 3:55 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: [CGUYS] french

I want to buy a notebook with french keyboard layout (azerty) and french
language version of windows (probably xp pro) to take with me as a gift for
a family member in the EU ...can I buy that here in the USA ?  ...neebodee
know whereat?


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Re: [CGUYS] french

[Matthew Taylor]

Bet you could get one from a retailer / catalog shop in Quebec pretty  
easy ...



On Apr 22, 2008, at 3:54 PM, rlsimon wrote:

I want to buy a notebook with french keyboard layout (azerty) and  
french
language version of windows (probably xp pro) to take with me as a  
gift for
a family member in the EU ...can I buy that here in the  
USA ?  ...neebodee

know whereat?


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[CGUYS] french

[rlsimon]

I want to buy a notebook with french keyboard layout (azerty) and french
language version of windows (probably xp pro) to take with me as a gift for
a family member in the EU ...can I buy that here in the USA ?  ...neebodee
know whereat?


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[CGUYS] Tax Scam email

[Daniel Else]

Just got one of these in the inbox from "IRS [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Subject line: 
"Tax Notification"
 
I suggest that you not follow the link.
 
Internal Revenue Service (IRS)
United States Department of the Treasury
 
Dear Taxpayer,
 
After the last annual calculations of your fiscal
activity we have determined that you are eligible
to receive a tax refund of $184.80.
 
Please submit the tax refund request and allow us
6-9 days in order to process it.
 
A refund can be delayed for a variety of reasons.
For example submitting invalid records or applying
after the deadline.
 
To access the form for your tax refund, use the following personalized link:
 
 http://0x7C.0x3.0x3A.0x85/www.irs.gov/taxrefund.ph p. 
 
Regards,
Internal Revenue Service
 

Document Reference: (0x7C.0x3.0x3A.0x85).


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Re: [CGUYS] Reformatting a drive for a Mac

[David Turk]

USB.

-Original Message-
From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
Duncan Yoyo
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:32 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Reformatting a drive for a Mac

USB or Fire Wire?


On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM, David Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I can get the drive to recognize on someone else's Mac (running OS 
> 10.4.11, same as mine).  It still won't register on mine.
>
>david
>
>
>
>  A client gave me a Western Digital Passport external drive to copy file to.  
> It's formatted for Windows, & the files are on my laptop Mac.  I can't get 
> the Mac to recognize the drive, much less re-format it for a Mac.  I can 
> re-format on the PC, but still can't get the Mac to recognize it.  tia.
>
> david
>
>
>  David Turk
>
>  Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
>
>  Indiana Historical Society
>  Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center
>
>  450 W. Ohio St.
>
>  Indianapolis, IN  46202
>
>  (317) 232-4592
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>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [CGUYS] ISPs' Error Page Ads Let Hackers Hijack Entire Web

[Richard P.]

And this was enough to convince me to go ahead with OpenDNS. Yet another 
great example of how corporations know what is best for the user and 
will give it to them whether they want it or not:


  


For its part, Earthlink says the Barefruit ad pages are useful to users.

"We offer DNS error functionality for our customers through Barefruit to 
enhance our users' experience, and we work closely with Barefruit to 
provide a safe and convenient way for them to find the destination 
they're looking for online," Earthlink spokesman Chris Marshall said via 
e-mail. "We believe that the service provides a positive experience for 
our Internet users."


Thanks Tony.

Richard P.

Tony B wrote:

Yet another reason to use OpenDNS.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/04/isps-error-page.html

  



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Re: [CGUYS] iTunes blues (in the beginning)

[Richardson, Sharon Y.]

This is the ultimate value of the Computer Guys listserv!!  All of the
collective wisdom out there. A HUGE thank-you to Tom Piwowar for your
succinct suggestions. Of course, I feel like the biggest dummy for not
realizing that the community of iTunes users would have all sorts of
ideas/advice for what I was planning to do and for not Google-ing to see
what might be available.
 
I'll attempt the suggestions this weekend and HOPEFULLY have some good
(or, at least, not bad) news to share with everyone later. Thanks again,
to everyone who responded!!!
 
Sharon Richardson
 
 


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Re: [CGUYS] IBM Tests: 86% Ask to Keep the Mac

[b_s-wilk]

Tony,

Did you read the story?

You've said that you use photo editing and video software. I use photo 
editing and video software for my work. I've used both Mac OS and 
Windows for years. Not only does Mac OS X work more transparently than 
Windows, Windows in emulation is better on a fast Mac than on a Windows 
PC, especially when sharing files between OS's. Almost everything that 
needs to be done in Photoshop or video software can be done in fewer 
steps and faster on a Mac. Same for most other software, except--no 
surprise--MS Office.


Linux also runs on Macs, natively and in emulation, but researchers have 
to use the software that's written for their work. Given the choice 
between our two Windows notebooks and my MacBook, I'll take the MacBook 
any day.


Have you used a Mac recently? Ever? Do you use Vista? It's hideous. I've 
"upgraded" to XP Pro, and Mac OS X. Use a Mac. Pocket the extra money 
you have from being more productive, and use it for toys and fun. Keep 
the PC for video games.


Betty




So, to phrase the results correctly, 100% chose Windows,  0% chose
Mac alone, and 86% chose to run Windows on a Mac.

Who cares. I'd be more interested in why none of them can get their 
work done on a Linux laptop.



On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

19 of 22 (86%) Users Ask to Keep the Mac. However, when asked if
they would rather keep their MacBook Pro or return to using their
familiar ThinkPad, only three chose the ThinkPad; the rest
decided to keep the Mac laptop and obtain VMWare Fusion licenses
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Re: [CGUYS] Reformatting a drive for a Mac

[John Duncan Yoyo]

USB or Fire Wire?


On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM, David Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I can get the drive to recognize on someone else's Mac (running OS 
> 10.4.11, same as mine).  It still won't register on mine.
>
>david
>
>
>
>  A client gave me a Western Digital Passport external drive to copy file to.  
> It's formatted for Windows, & the files are on my laptop Mac.  I can't get 
> the Mac to recognize the drive, much less re-format it for a Mac.  I can 
> re-format on the PC, but still can't get the Mac to recognize it.  tia.
>
> david
>
>
>  David Turk
>
>  Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
>
>  Indiana Historical Society
>  Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center
>
>  450 W. Ohio St.
>
>  Indianapolis, IN  46202
>
>  (317) 232-4592
>
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[CGUYS] Reformatting a drive for a Mac

[David Turk]

OK, I can get the drive to recognize on someone else's Mac (running OS 10.4.11, 
same as mine).  It still won't register on mine.

   david

A client gave me a Western Digital Passport external drive to copy file to.  
It's formatted for Windows, & the files are on my laptop Mac.  I can't get the 
Mac to recognize the drive, much less re-format it for a Mac.  I can re-format 
on the PC, but still can't get the Mac to recognize it.  tia.

david


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Indiana Historical Society
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[CGUYS] Reformatting a drive for a Mac

[David Turk]

A client gave me a Western Digital Passport external drive to copy file to.  
It's formatted for Windows, & the files are on my laptop Mac.  I can't get the 
Mac to recognize the drive, much less re-format it for a Mac.  I can re-format 
on the PC, but still can't get the Mac to recognize it.  tia.

david


David Turk

Manager, Preservation Imaging Services

Indiana Historical Society
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450 W. Ohio St.

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(317) 232-4592

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Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

[mike]

That's why I said I didn't think anything was emulated, thus my question
about is there any hardware difference between the two.

Mike

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:05 AM, John Duncan Yoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I think it is the hardware configuration that is being 'emulated' with
> the BIOS properly tweaked and some modification to the loading
> procedure to OSX5.  Take a look at
> <
> http://lifehacker.com/348653/install-os-x-on-your-hackintosh-pc-no-hacking-required/
> >.
>  They used a modified version of OSX Panther and tweaked the BIOS.  I
> can't find it now but there are some configurations that didn't need
> the altered OSX.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:32 AM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > OS X can be run under normal bios...so what is being emulated if not the
> >  EFI?
> >
> >  MIke
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  > On Apr 21, 2008, at 5:36 PM, mike wrote:
> >  >
> >  >  I've wondered about this, is there a ROM on the apple motherboards
> that
> >  > > the
> >  > > install dvd looks for?  If all you have to do is patch a few
> software
> >  > > files
> >  > > on the DVD to get it to run on a similar chipset, is there any real
> >  > > hardware
> >  > > difference from  mac to any other machine?
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  >  Less now than before as a result of the move to the Intel processor,
> >  > which is actually what makes it all possible to do rather easily.
>  Some
> >  > operating issue remain, however.  Waking from sleep can be
> problematic, and
> >  > it may be necessary under emulation software to have the OS DVD in
> the drive
> >  > in order to boot up.  Updating system software can cause issues as
> well.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >  Steve
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Re: [CGUYS] Arstechnica: Windows is dying

[Roger D. Parish]

At 8:56 AM -0400 4/22/08, Fred Holmes wrote:


 >

QUESTION: Why is the press picking so on MS?


Why is the press picking on George Bush?



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Re: [CGUYS] Arstechnica: Windows is dying

[Fred Holmes]

At 10:08 PM 4/21/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote:
>"Windows is dying, Windows applications suck, and Microsoft is too blinkered 
>to fix any of it‹that's the argument. The truth is that Windows is hampered by 
>25-year old design decisions. These decisions mean that it's clunky to use and 
>absolutely horrible to write applications for. The applications that people do 
>write are almost universally terrible. They're ugly, they're inconsistent, 
>they're disorganized; there's no finesse, no care lavished on them. 
>Microsoft‹surely the company with the greatest interest in making Windows and 
>Windows applications exude quality‹is, in fact, one of the worst perpetrators."
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>
>QUESTION: Why is the press picking so on MS?

Why is the press picking on George Bush?

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Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

[John Duncan Yoyo]

I think it is the hardware configuration that is being 'emulated' with
the BIOS properly tweaked and some modification to the loading
procedure to OSX5.  Take a look at
.
  They used a modified version of OSX Panther and tweaked the BIOS.  I
can't find it now but there are some configurations that didn't need
the altered OSX.


On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:32 AM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OS X can be run under normal bios...so what is being emulated if not the
>  EFI?
>
>  MIke
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > On Apr 21, 2008, at 5:36 PM, mike wrote:
>  >
>  >  I've wondered about this, is there a ROM on the apple motherboards that
>  > > the
>  > > install dvd looks for?  If all you have to do is patch a few software
>  > > files
>  > > on the DVD to get it to run on a similar chipset, is there any real
>  > > hardware
>  > > difference from  mac to any other machine?
>  > >
>  >
>  >  Less now than before as a result of the move to the Intel processor,
>  > which is actually what makes it all possible to do rather easily.  Some
>  > operating issue remain, however.  Waking from sleep can be problematic, and
>  > it may be necessary under emulation software to have the OS DVD in the 
> drive
>  > in order to boot up.  Updating system software can cause issues as well.
>  >
>  >
>  >  Steve
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Re: [CGUYS] Arstechnica: Windows is dying

[Snyder, Mark (IT Civilian)]

The Ars article is well-written - by a former fanboy, too.  M$ has made
their bed and the criticisms in the article ring true.  My fortune 100
company is also talking about returning Macs to the corporate network.
We do not allow Vista on the network and no planned migration date has
been established.  M$ is crashing under their own technical hubris and
sloppy work.

Thank you,
 
Mark Snyder
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http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/what-microsoft-could-learn-from-
apple.ars

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