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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is their Wireless cellphone business. We've had connection issues with our DSL service for over two months. It disconnects at the same time almost every day for 5-90 minutes. Verizon is working on it. When the tech came to check wiring, switch, etc., he told me that the trunk line from town is fiber even though the neighborhood isn't connected, so we can't get FIOS. He told me that it's the same where he lives--fiber to the area, but neighborhoods not connected. He has DSL and DirecTV, just like we do. Verizon may be finished with the main FIOS installation, but they're not doing the last mile or so. Do neighborhoods and small towns have to get their own connections through cooperation of all the residents? Ha! Fat chance! Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
Yeah, the minute you do that Verizon sues the city for doing it. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Verizon may be finished with the main FIOS installation, but they're not doing the last mile or so. Do neighborhoods and small towns have to get their own connections through cooperation of all the residents? Ha! Fat chance! Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, the minute you do that Verizon sues the city for doing it. This is where a skillful lawyer/politician makes Verizon build out FIOS in that area or get the hell out of the way. If they want to prevent a build out because they are going to do it in a year or so is the only way they can get standing in a court. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Verizon may be finished with the main FIOS installation, but they're not doing the last mile or so. Do neighborhoods and small towns have to get their own connections through cooperation of all the residents? Ha! Fat chance! Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1 summarizes thus: Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets. However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is their Wireless cellphone business. At the same time, there is a push in congress to find ways to get some kind of universal internet service (similar to universal telephone service) out to rural areas. And by rural, it would appear to include much of suburbia. I wonder where this will all lead. Mike On 10/25/2011 5:14 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1 summarizes thus: Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets. However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
Nice to know all that money these guys got in tax breaks and incentives went...nowhere. Makes me that much happier when I hear various senators proclaim 'we have plenty of competition' in regards to the desired tmobile/ATT merger. Yeah. Right. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is their Wireless cellphone business. At the same time, there is a push in congress to find ways to get some kind of universal internet service (similar to universal telephone service) out to rural areas. And by rural, it would appear to include much of suburbia. I wonder where this will all lead. Mike On 10/25/2011 5:14 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports http://www.dslreports.com/**shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-** Home-LTE-Service-116721?**nocomment=1http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1 summarizes thus: Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets. However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it. * ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Done with FIOS?
Mike, It's worth noting that the new FCC net neutrality rules apply to wired connections (like FiOS) but not wireless connections (like LTE). --Emil On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 17:39, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: That is disturbing to me - I am in a copper only DSL area of Verizon's service. I was hoping to eventually get FIOS, as no cable vendor serves my area. Now I guess I will have to hope that LTE comes to my DirectTV eventually or that a cable company decides to serve this area. I am beginning to wonder exactly what business Verizon is in - they want to get out of copper and are abandoning FIOS, so the only consumer product left is their Wireless cellphone business. At the same time, there is a push in congress to find ways to get some kind of universal internet service (similar to universal telephone service) out to rural areas. And by rural, it would appear to include much of suburbia. I wonder where this will all lead. Mike On 10/25/2011 5:14 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: At Verizon's earnings call, their CFO, Fran Shammo, sort of put a stake through the heart of FIOS. This article on DSL Reports http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721?nocomment=1 summarizes thus: Verizon executives had been pretending they were pausing FiOS deployments while they improved uptake in already deployed markets. However, Shammo makes it clear the reality is FiOS deployment won't be unpaused -- because FiOS deployment is essentially over with the exception of already agreed franchise obligations. Verizon's new executive leadership simply doensn't think further upgrades are worth it. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** -- Emil Volcheck volch...@acm.org http://EmilVolcheck.com/ *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] welcome to thunderbird
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Apple doesn't respect its customers, no matter their levels of expertise. Perhaps so. But, what is important for Apple is not whether Apple respects its customers, but whether its customers, at least the new customers, respect Apple. The expanding cadre of iOS users, which represents most of Apple's new customers, appear to have a near fanatical desire for Apple products, primarily mobile devices. This is currently a fad, no doubt about that in my mind, and whether or not it will remain a fashionista driven thing or become based upon real world needs and results is up in the air at this point in time. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] welcome to thunderbird
On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:00 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: These examples are the best reasons to NEVER buy software at an app store where it's automatically installed, overwriting the last version. The worst bugs are always in the automatic installs, and they're harder to clean up, too. Even most non-App Store apps don't automatically update themselves. For the most part, they tell me that an update is available and give me the option of upgrading immediately or postponing the update. I think that the point was that the app store automatically INSTALLED the update, thereby overwriting the version being updated, not that the app store automatically UPDATED the application without input from the end user. I absolutely prefer to download an updated version of any application and install it alongside the older version. That allows me to test the new version to ensure it works properly before I consider deleting the older one. That approach has saved me considerable grief and a lot of time on a number of occasions. Steve I want to have a backup of the INSTALLER, not the backup of the program. Without the installer, vital files could be missing. The online installer will overwrite what I have without giving me the choice not to do that -- Apple has done this for years, BUT they used to give a choice of downloading an installer instead of online only. I don't want to waste time digging through a series of backups, delving into the invisible system files to find all the pieces to recover, when a decent company would simply provide an installer for their software. I can even download Android and Symbian software without having it installed automatically, overwriting my files. At least Mozilla gives us software installers--and Bugzilla. What's wrong with Apple? Steve Jobs should have retired a long time ago and taken his sadistic narrow micromanagement style with him. Without the software installer, we're also at the whim of our ISP which hasn't treated us very well lately; connection has the hiccups, and calling them doesn't do any good. They blame it on our computers, even though the odds that all of our many computers will have exactly the same glitch at the same time are almost nil. Will call them and try again. Internet providers' flaky service can make a horrible product [Mac App Store online installations] even worse. Such is the pleasure of country living! Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] welcome to thunderbird
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:47 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: What's wrong with Apple? Steve Jobs should have retired a long time ago and taken his sadistic narrow micromanagement style with him. It is my thought that Apple wants to go with program installations on-line as opposed to having the user employ a downloaded installer because Apple has decided to design their devices to satisfy the needs of the lowest common denominator as far as users of their devices is concerned. Apple thinks that their users are, to a great degree it seems, a bunch of dumb asses in terms of relating to digital devices. Apple could well be correct in that assessment, at least as far as iOS device users go. It seems to me as though Apple is headed in the direction of making most of their devices suitable for easy use and equally attractive for anyone from toddlers up to the elderly. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] welcome to thunderbird
What's wrong with Apple? Steve Jobs should have retired a long time ago and taken his sadistic narrow micromanagement style with him. It is my thought that Apple wants to go with program installations on-line as opposed to having the user employ a downloaded installer because Apple has decided to design their devices to satisfy the needs of the lowest common denominator as far as users of their devices is concerned. Apple thinks that their users are, to a great degree it seems, a bunch of dumb asses in terms of relating to digital devices. Apple could well be correct in that assessment, at least as far as iOS device users go. It seems to me as though Apple is headed in the direction of making most of their devices suitable for easy use and equally attractive for anyone from toddlers up to the elderly. Apple is also making their devices much less attractive for professionals who make a living with their computers and peripheral devices. It started with sealed computers, iPods and phones. What has always been a relatively simple process to change a battery or swap out a drive has become complicated to the point that we need special proprietary tools to open our devices to perform basic upgrades and repairs. We work on our own computers. We don't have time to send them out or wait for a tech to arrive. We have deadlines. The last straws are twofold. First, they broke Final Cut Pro, a very expensive downgrade/upgrade. Now they insist on installing the OS instead of permitting the user to do a very basic function. Was it REALLY necessary to discontinue Rosetta? When I finally downgrade to OS 10.7, it will cost me well over $1000 to upgrade all the important software that the new OS breaks, and more money to replace hardware that stops working--like my printer and scanner, perhaps even the interface with my camera. I like the OS, except 10.7, but the company is getting worse by the minute. The least that Apple can do is to admit that there are pros and basic consumers, and to treat them differently, treat them with respect. Have you ever tried to unlock a version 1, 2, or 3 iPhone? Apple refuses to do what every other phone manufacturers does routinely. Have you seen the odd screws they use on iPhone 4 and their notebooks? Why is my iPod touch glued together??? Apple doesn't respect its customers, no matter their levels of expertise. Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] welcome to thunderbird
On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:00 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: These examples are the best reasons to NEVER buy software at an app store where it's automatically installed, overwriting the last version. The worst bugs are always in the automatic installs, and they're harder to clean up, too. I recall you saying something like this several times. I don't know of any app store that works that way. In iOS and OS X, for example, app upgrades are always voluntary. You have to open the App Store App, go to the Updates Pane, select the updates you want to upgrade, and confirm your choices with your AppleID. In OS X, you can just restore the old version of an app from a backup if the upgrade doesn't work out (Apple makes this easy by their policy of requiring app store apps to be entirely self-contained bundles). In iOS, it's a little more complicated and involves restoring the entire device from a backup, but it's still possible. Even most non-App Store apps don't automatically update themselves. For the most part, they tell me that an update is available and give me the option of upgrading immediately or postponing the update. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] welcome to thunderbird
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:49 AM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:00 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: These examples are the best reasons to NEVER buy software at an app store where it's automatically installed, overwriting the last version. The worst bugs are always in the automatic installs, and they're harder to clean up, too. Even most non-App Store apps don't automatically update themselves. For the most part, they tell me that an update is available and give me the option of upgrading immediately or postponing the update. I think that the point was that the app store automatically INSTALLED the update, thereby overwriting the version being updated, not that the app store automatically UPDATED the application without input from the end user. I absolutely prefer to download an updated version of any application and install it alongside the older version. That allows me to test the new version to ensure it works properly before I consider deleting the older one. That approach has saved me considerable grief and a lot of time on a number of occasions. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] welcome to thunderbird
On 08/12/2011 09:47 AM, gerald wrote: vista, firefox, tbird, big computer with lots of free space. once every couple weeks i get a tbird upgrade. seems even more agressive than MS improvements. i get to the computer in the morning, and it's there. a couple weeks ago, i got a sidebar calendar from them. did not have much use for it, but really did not know how to completely delete it. about tues or wed, got another UG. few minutes later, got an email that wanted display on firefox. attemped display crashed the computer, pretty hard. after 3 hours of mucking around, and probably doing no good at all, i was able to get firefox back up. could not open tbird. went to the thunderbird site to look for reported problems. saw none. google post mentions the calender sidebar causes some problems. while at the tbird site, i downloaded and then ran the latest tbird. all works. there is no sidebar calender at the moment. When I update a program, I put the original in a separate folder, naming it something like Thunduhboid or Tbird ƒ, so the new one doesn't overwrite it. I just got TBird 5.0 and I hate it. It doesn't even have an easy keyboard command to get mail, so I have to mouse around. That's a loser. I could rewrite the preferences to add a command, but went back to v.3.1.12 and it does everything I need, plus it has current security updates. I installed Mac OS 10.6 on my MacBook and discovered that things that were easy before take more steps now--and for no good reason either, only to be different so we feel like we got what we paid for. Glad I didn't install it on my iMac, except that I like QuickTime Pro being built-in instead of extra. Yesterday, I downloaded Firefox 6.0. It's buggier than 5.x. Not sure if I like it. Might try one of the nightly builds or a beta to see if new bugs are going away. Save 5.x just in case I want to go back. These examples are the best reasons to NEVER buy software at an app store where it's automatically installed, overwriting the last version. The worst bugs are always in the automatic installs, and they're harder to clean up, too. I look at the AOL list from time to time. The main list is at Yahoo now, but as long as Tom is absent, nobody is blocking spammers. OTOH, the AOL list owner is Ray Everett Church. Haven't seen him post to any list since 2007. He's a very busy lawyer, but I'm sure he'd answer an email or two about resurrecting the AOL list. AOL is much better about keeping spammers away than Yahoo anyway. [http://www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.html] Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] welcome to thunderbird
vista, firefox, tbird, big computer with lots of free space. once every couple weeks i get a tbird upgrade. seems even more agressive than MS improvements. i get to the computer in the morning, and it's there. a couple weeks ago, i got a sidebar calendar from them. did not have much use for it, but really did not know how to completely delete it. about tues or wed, got another UG. few minutes later, got an email that wanted display on firefox. attemped display crashed the computer, pretty hard. after 3 hours of mucking around, and probably doing no good at all, i was able to get firefox back up. could not open tbird. went to the thunderbird site to look for reported problems. saw none. google post mentions the calender sidebar causes some problems. while at the tbird site, i downloaded and then ran the latest tbird. all works. there is no sidebar calender at the moment. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] welcome to thunderbird
On 08/12/2011 09:47 AM, gerald wrote: vista, firefox, tbird, big computer with lots of free space. once every couple weeks i get a tbird upgrade. seems even more agressive than MS improvements. i get to the computer in the morning, and it's there. a couple weeks ago, i got a sidebar calendar from them. did not have much use for it, but really did not know how to completely delete it. about tues or wed, got another UG. few minutes later, got an email that wanted display on firefox. attemped display crashed the computer, pretty hard. after 3 hours of mucking around, and probably doing no good at all, i was able to get firefox back up. could not open tbird. went to the thunderbird site to look for reported problems. saw none. google post mentions the calender sidebar causes some problems. while at the tbird site, i downloaded and then ran the latest tbird. all works. there is no sidebar calender at the moment. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** Gerald, the AOL setup isn't really working, and there aren't any regular users. You are of course welcome to use the Yahoo setup with most of the old crew still on there (to be honest, Tom Piowar has disappeared or at least is refraining from posting). The most likely way to get a calendar in T'Bird is to have the Lightning extension activated or installed. It can be disabled in the Add-On section under tools if I remember the Windows version correctly (I mostly use Thunderbird in Linux, just like I'm doing now) *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] firefox 5.0
a while back i loaded firefox 3.xxx or 4.xxx and found my system was very unhappy. i poked around and found i had to eliminate some pop up blocker, or something to mgenerate happines in my firefox. i just ended up with firefox 5.0, and it is slow, and it crashes a lot. behaves like a beta program. anyone know what is wrong, or what the fix is. vista home, amd quaddraport in an acer, tons of memory, ati video, panda antivirus. it also happened about the same time i installed a usb 3.0 card and seagate 3.0 drive(3.0 is not MS approved) -- regards jerry gerald slawecki 301 839 9009 cell 301 233 2248 *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] firefox 5.0
my 5.0 doesn't do that. but, i can't pgdn or pgup or arrow down or up on a screen. it jumps to the end (with the downs)! On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:30 AM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote: a while back i loaded firefox 3.xxx or 4.xxx and found my system was very unhappy. i poked around and found i had to eliminate some pop up blocker, or something to mgenerate happines in my firefox. i just ended up with firefox 5.0, and it is slow, and it crashes a lot. behaves like a beta program. anyone know what is wrong, or what the fix is. vista home, amd quaddraport in an acer, tons of memory, ati video, panda antivirus. it also happened about the same time i installed a usb 3.0 card and seagate 3.0 drive(3.0 is not MS approved) -- regards jerry gerald slawecki 301 839 9009 cell 301 233 2248 * ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] hpage
Hpage is a free website generator which seems to be favored by those who know more about scamming people that about using English correctly. This is based on the first 2 pages I got from Google. I would not go to one of their websites w/o first getting a rating of it by a knowen 3rd party. Be at Peace. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Black xp
Black XP is a torrent that has been around for some time, not something you want if you want to keep yourself on the legal side. It's not so much what is out, but what is in, the black edition is themed black but also contains programs that are not free..as well as some that are. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:50 PM, D Freye dfr...@fastmail.fm wrote: What does anybody know about Black Win XP? I heard that it is XP with many of the troublesome parts removed. Is it safe to run? Be at Peace. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] Kaspersky
Does Kaspersky Internet Security have as good firewall in it as Zone Alarm? Where could I get a good deal on it if I did not want to fool around with Staples EASY REBATES? Be at Peace. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Kaspersky
you can get the 3 user pack on amazon for about $30. . i have never seen firewall reviews. kapersky is a very nice, non intrusive (norton is very intrusive) AV. i use panda(?). it is also very non intrusive. reviews are here http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,2806,1639159,00.asp On 7/10/2011 2:05 AM, D Freye wrote: Does Kaspersky Internet Security have as good firewall in it as Zone Alarm? Where could I get a good deal on it if I did not want to fool around with Staples EASY REBATES? Be at Peace. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** -- regards jerry gerald slawecki 301 839 9009 cell 301 233 2248 *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] 3.0 drives
the f/w800 was an easy install. after all, there is a f/w800 plug on the back of the screen. the usb 3.0 is another matter. MS does not support usb 3.0. the pci card did not want to load. the 3.0 driver did not want to load. i think i finally have it loaded, but the device driver shows a 2/21/06 MS2.0 driver in the disk driver section, in the usb controllersusb 3.0 root hub, it shows a VIA 1/7/2011 driver. when i tested drive speeds by dumping a gig of jpegs, looks like i get about 1GB per minute. the literature talks about 1 Gbit/sec. i think i divide by 8 to get bites. that's about 40 gb/minute. need help to fix the problem On 6/15/2011 3:52 PM, gerald wrote: i bought a 1T WD drive, and a 2T seagate. the WD is terrible. it is hard to load. once loaded, it is difficult to find. there is supposed to be software with it, but i cannot get to it. i decided to send it back. i downloaded the WD upgrade, and software for something. i cannot delete it by standard delete techniques. the seagate on the other hand loaded like a piece of cake. i got an unnessary piece of software called memeo plus, or somesuch. it has as many ads as norton. hope it goes away at the 30 day trial period. i have purchased a 2T seagate 800/fw for wife's machine. had to buy the 800 f/w seagate interconnect. was only $20, and with only 100 for the drive, all seems pretty reasonable to me. -- regards jerry gerald slawecki 301 839 9009 cell 301 233 2248 *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] 3.0 drives
What OS? On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:00 AM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote: the f/w800 was an easy install. after all, there is a f/w800 plug on the back of the screen. the usb 3.0 is another matter. MS does not support usb 3.0. the pci card did not want to load. the 3.0 driver did not want to load. i think i finally have it loaded, but the device driver shows a 2/21/06 MS2.0 driver in the disk driver section, in the usb controllersusb 3.0 root hub, it shows a VIA 1/7/2011 driver. when i tested drive speeds by dumping a gig of jpegs, looks like i get about 1GB per minute. the literature talks about 1 Gbit/sec. i think i divide by 8 to get bites. that's about 40 gb/minute. need help to fix the problem On 6/15/2011 3:52 PM, gerald wrote: i bought a 1T WD drive, and a 2T seagate. the WD is terrible. it is hard to load. once loaded, it is difficult to find. there is supposed to be software with it, but i cannot get to it. i decided to send it back. i downloaded the WD upgrade, and software for something. i cannot delete it by standard delete techniques. the seagate on the other hand loaded like a piece of cake. i got an unnessary piece of software called memeo plus, or somesuch. it has as many ads as norton. hope it goes away at the 30 day trial period. i have purchased a 2T seagate 800/fw for wife's machine. had to buy the 800 f/w seagate interconnect. was only $20, and with only 100 for the drive, all seems pretty reasonable to me. -- regards jerry gerald slawecki 301 839 9009 cell 301 233 2248 * ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] 3.0 drives
On 6/23/2011 3:54 PM, mike wrote: What OS? vista 64 home. big machine with an amd quad processor and lots of memory. the pci 3.0 card i bought is a VIA with 4 ports On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:00 AM, geraldger...@slawecki.com wrote: the f/w800 was an easy install. after all, there is a f/w800 plug on the back of the screen. the usb 3.0 is another matter. MS does not support usb 3.0. the pci card did not want to load. the 3.0 driver did not want to load. i think i finally have it loaded, but the device driver shows a 2/21/06 MS2.0 driver in the disk driver section, in the usb controllersusb 3.0 root hub, it shows a VIA 1/7/2011 driver. when i tested drive speeds by dumping a gig of jpegs, looks like i get about 1GB per minute. the literature talks about 1 Gbit/sec. i think i divide by 8 to get bites. that's about 40 gb/minute. need help to fix the problem On 6/15/2011 3:52 PM, gerald wrote: i bought a 1T WD drive, and a 2T seagate. the WD is terrible. it is hard to load. once loaded, it is difficult to find. there is supposed to be software with it, but i cannot get to it. i decided to send it back. i downloaded the WD upgrade, and software for something. i cannot delete it by standard delete techniques. the seagate on the other hand loaded like a piece of cake. i got an unnessary piece of software called memeo plus, or somesuch. it has as many ads as norton. hope it goes away at the 30 day trial period. i have purchased a 2T seagate 800/fw for wife's machine. had to buy the 800 f/w seagate interconnect. was only $20, and with only 100 for the drive, all seems pretty reasonable to me. -- regards jerry gerald slawecki 301 839 9009 cell 301 233 2248 * ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** -- regards jerry gerald slawecki 301 839 9009 cell 301 233 2248 *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] 3.0 drives
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:52 PM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote: i bought a 1T WD drive, and a 2T seagate. the WD is terrible. it is hard to load. once loaded, it is difficult to find. there is supposed to be software with it, but i cannot get to it. i decided to send it back. i downloaded the WD upgrade, and software for something. i cannot delete it by standard delete techniques. the seagate on the other hand loaded like a piece of cake. i got an unnessary piece of software called memeo plus, or somesuch. it has as many ads as norton. hope it goes away at the 30 day trial period. i have purchased a 2T seagate 800/fw for wife's machine. had to buy the 800 f/w seagate interconnect. was only $20, and with only 100 for the drive, all seems pretty reasonable to me. PC Decrapifier http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/ will eliminate lots of the bloat on a new install but you need to get the proper Norton removal tool from Norton http://us.norton.com/support/kb/web_view.jsp?wv_type=public_webdocurl=20080710133834ENln=en_US and run that several times to eliminate Norton's nagging. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] 3.0 drives
i bought a 1T WD drive, and a 2T seagate. the WD is terrible. it is hard to load. once loaded, it is difficult to find. there is supposed to be software with it, but i cannot get to it. i decided to send it back. i downloaded the WD upgrade, and software for something. i cannot delete it by standard delete techniques. the seagate on the other hand loaded like a piece of cake. i got an unnessary piece of software called memeo plus, or somesuch. it has as many ads as norton. hope it goes away at the 30 day trial period. i have purchased a 2T seagate 800/fw for wife's machine. had to buy the 800 f/w seagate interconnect. was only $20, and with only 100 for the drive, all seems pretty reasonable to me. -- regards jerry gerald slawecki 301 839 9009 cell 301 233 2248 *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 28 May 2011 to 29 May 2011 (#2011-38)
Henry - I saved these instructions from the old list, just for you! --and everyone else who needs it. The new list is at Yahoo. See details at the end of each message on the old list. Send your SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L message to lists...@listserv.aol.com. Don't bother to tell Tom. He created the new Yahoo list. Easy. See below: HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE: *** Allcommands mustbesent tothe LISTSERVaddress, lists...@listserv.aol.com. It is very important to understand the difference between the two, but fortunately it is not complicated. ||| HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM COMPUTERGUYS-L ||| Had enough? You may leave the list at any time by sending a SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L command to lists...@listserv.aol.com. (It would also be nice to send a short note to t...@tjpa.com telling him why you're leaving.) snip Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
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Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 00:00:05 -0400 From: lists...@listserv.aol.com Subject: COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 26 May 2011 to 27 May 2011 (#2011-36) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 00:00:05 -0400 From: lists...@listserv.aol.com Subject: COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 26 May 2011 to 27 May 2011 (#2011-36) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM There is 1 message totalling 40 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 22 May 2011 to 23 May 2011 (#2011-33) *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 12:05:04 -0400 From: b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 22 May 2011 to 23 May 2011 (#2011-33) Henry Why don't you get a new email address? It's easy--lots of choices. Then unsubscribe your hotmail.com address and rejoin the group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ComputerGuys-L. Betty My email contacts file has been captured by a hacker sometime in the past. The problematic emails are not being sent from my computer. The only option for receivers of these emails is to be suspicious - or to not allow emails from hmbr...@hotmail.com to be accepted. You may block them or filter them out. Sorry for the problem Henry Bruhl *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 22 May 2011 to 23 May 2011 (#2011-33)
Henry Why don't you get a new email address? It's easy--lots of choices. Then unsubscribe your hotmail.com address and rejoin the group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ComputerGuys-L. Betty My email contacts file has been captured by a hacker sometime in the past. The problematic emails are not being sent from my computer. The only option for receivers of these emails is to be suspicious - or to not allow emails from hmbr...@hotmail.com to be accepted. You may block them or filter them out. Sorry for the problem Henry Bruhl *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
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Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 22 May 2011 to 23 May 2011 (#2011-33)
My email contacts file has been captured by a hacker sometime in the past. The problematic emails are not being sent from my computer. The only option for receivers of these emails is to be suspicious - or to not allow emails from hmbr...@hotmail.com to be accepted. You may block them or filter them out. Sorry for the problem Henry Bruhl Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 00:00:06 -0400 From: lists...@listserv.aol.com Subject: COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 22 May 2011 to 23 May 2011 (#2011-33) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 00:00:06 -0400 From: lists...@listserv.aol.com Subject: COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 22 May 2011 to 23 May 2011 (#2011-33) To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM There is 1 message totalling 24 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. No subject given *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 19:01:16 -0400 From: ka...@his.com Subject: No subject given Quoting Henry Bruhl hmbr...@hotmail.com: http://orcen.euweb.cz/StuartScott80.html I think Henry needs to get the bums rush. Is there anyone left to do that? *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
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[CGUYS] The Next Brick to Decorate Your Wall: iOS 3.x Devices
This is an iPhone story, but could be the same issue for other devices and systems. Be careful when installing new software on old devices--important for those who plan to keep them for a long time. Don't you hate it when your phone/computer/device works perfectly until you install an upgrade? IOW, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. http://www.osnews.com/story/24428/The_Next_Brick_to_Decorate_Your_Wall_iOS_3_x_Devices Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
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[CGUYS] Odd email server messages
Got this from a friend early this morning. He checks his email online, using Firefox. FWIW, SBC/ATT uses Yahoo for email. Bored tech, playing with server messages or something else? --- Here's a weird one. I woke up at 3:15 am and decided to check my mail. Suddenly started getting this series of pop-ups, that repeated: ...he attached screen shots with dialog boxes like these below... ___ |_att.net Mail (***@sbcglobal.net)_ | |The page at http://us.mg201.mail.yahoo.com says: | |hi |___ ___ |_att.net Mail (***@sbcglobal.net)_ | |The page at http://us.mg201.mail.yahoo.com says: | |hi |___ ___ |_att.net Mail (***@sbcglobal.net)_ | |The page at http://us.mg201.mail.yahoo.com says: | |41782903 |___ ___ |_att.net Mail (***@sbcglobal.net)_ | |The page at http://us.mg201.mail.yahoo.com says: | |1 |___ Betty 1252 *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Adobe update messed up printing PDF files
Wayne Dernoncourt My wife said that the printing on a PDF file was squished. Squished? I couldn't tell what was going on so I looked at it, the copy on the screen is fine, when she prints out, it's wrong. The original text was italicized, the printed is bolded. I don't know much of anything else about fonts, Helvetica from Times, etc. I updated her Acrobat this past weekend, I have to figure that this is related. Does anyone have a clue on how to figure out what got whacked and how to unwhack it? All help is gratefully appreciated. Responding to my own message... It also seems that the kerning is messed up, the text height may as well but that could be an optical illusion going from italics to bold, etc. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Taglines for sale, see our red tag sale *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Adobe update messed up printing PDF files
Wayne here is a suggestion try another PDF reader. Nuance and Foxit both have a decent PDF reader and I have had to use them on occasion when Adobes would not open a PDF file I received. I got an invoice from a vendor for a conference and I downloaded it repeatedly and Adobe would not open it. Tried it in Foxit and it came out fine? DOnt know why but this happens every now and then. I have a feeling it is the software they use to encode the PDF page. But try either one of those and see if it is the same. Stewart At 06:25 AM 3/31/2011, you wrote: Wayne Dernoncourt My wife said that the printing on a PDF file was squished. Squished? I couldn't tell what was going on so I looked at it, the copy on the screen is fine, when she prints out, it's wrong. The original text was italicized, the printed is bolded. I don't know much of anything else about fonts, Helvetica from Times, etc. I updated her Acrobat this past weekend, I have to figure that this is related. Does anyone have a clue on how to figure out what got whacked and how to unwhack it? All help is gratefully appreciated. Responding to my own message... It also seems that the kerning is messed up, the text height may as well but that could be an optical illusion going from italics to bold, etc. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] Adobe update messed up printing PDF files
My wife said that the printing on a PDF file was squished. Squished? I couldn't tell what was going on so I looked at it, the copy on the screen is fine, when she prints out, it's wrong. The original text was italicized, the printed is bolded. I don't know much of anything else about fonts, Helvetica from Times, etc. I updated her Acrobat this past weekend, I have to figure that this is related. Does anyone have a clue on how to figure out what got whacked and how to unwhack it? All help is gratefully appreciated. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Taglines for sale, see our red tag sale *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] XP sounds question -
But one gets beeps at times from the POST, which says that the machine ROM BIOS can produce a sound. So if the cause of the sound uses that instead of a Windows API call, you are going to get the sound anyway, even when the Windows volume control has been turned down all the way or muted. Fred Holmes At 06:44 PM 3/21/2011, Jordan wrote: Turn the volume down all the way or set it to mute. On 3/21/11 11:37 AM, Tom Chambers wrote: List members - I hate computers that talk to me , so when I'm setting up a machine for my own use I always set it to no sounds in the control panel. That works for most sounds , but in XP I still get the standard beep when I change volume or get a new email (in this case in an old Netscape mail program). Anyone know how to shut these sounds off ? Thanks , Tom Chambers *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] XP sounds question -
Would disabling the speaker in the bios help? From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 9:47:14 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] XP sounds question - But one gets beeps at times from the POST, which says that the machine ROM BIOS can produce a sound. So if the cause of the sound uses that instead of a Windows API call, you are going to get the sound anyway, even when the Windows volume control has been turned down all the way or muted. Fred Holmes At 06:44 PM 3/21/2011, Jordan wrote: Turn the volume down all the way or set it to mute. On 3/21/11 11:37 AM, Tom Chambers wrote: List members - I hate computers that talk to me , so when I'm setting up a machine for my own use I always set it to no sounds in the control panel. That works for most sounds , but in XP I still get the standard beep when I change volume or get a new email (in this case in an old Netscape mail program). Anyone know how to shut these sounds off ? Thanks , Tom Chambers *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] XP sounds question -
List members - I hate computers that talk to me , so when I'm setting up a machine for my own use I always set it to no sounds in the control panel. That works for most sounds , but in XP I still get the standard beep when I change volume or get a new email (in this case in an old Netscape mail program). Anyone know how to shut these sounds off ? Thanks , Tom Chambers -- We can't all , and some of us don't - Eeyore Never pass up the opportunity to remain silent . *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] XP sounds question -
On 03/21/2011 11:37 AM, Tom Chambers wrote: I hate computers that talk to me , so when I'm setting up a machine for my own use I always set it to no sounds in the control panel. That works for most sounds , but in XP I still get the standard beep when I change volume or get a new email (in this case in an old Netscape mail program). Anyone know how to shut these sounds off ? First please note that this list for the most part has moved to Yahoo, note the message at the bottom of this reply. 2nd Netscape has not been supported for quite some time, and likely has lots of safety and security issues. Netscape can be easily replaced with the SeaMonkey suite offered by the folks at Mozilla, or alternatively just for email, Thunderbird the standalone email offering from Mozilla can also be used. Either the email component of Seamonkey or Thunderbird can import mail and settings from Netscape, so moving to either isn't likely to be a major issue. 3rd, it's been a long time since I last used Netscape in either Windows or Linux, but if I remember correctly, what sounds show up for events can be set under ToolsPreferences. Of course it could be that although you have no sounds selected in XP, you still have an event set in Netscape triggering said sounds. You'll have to play with both possibilities for a solution. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] XP sounds question -
Turn the volume down all the way or set it to mute. On 3/21/11 11:37 AM, Tom Chambers wrote: List members - I hate computers that talk to me , so when I'm setting up a machine for my own use I always set it to no sounds in the control panel. That works for most sounds , but in XP I still get the standard beep when I change volume or get a new email (in this case in an old Netscape mail program). Anyone know how to shut these sounds off ? Thanks , Tom Chambers *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:13 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:21 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, a new generation. Look at the tech we are talking about, the guys who invented it, popularized it are getting older, a new generation has come along and is using it's own nomenclature to describe the new and old/redone tech that surrounds them. If it is Apple that has popularized the term app. then that means Steve Jobs has either coined or approved the term. He is hardly new generation, although he often acts quite childish. Jobs originally didn't want to do apps from everything I heard. He wanted all that sort of stuff done through web pages in the beginning of the iPhone. At some point the first Apps came in through the jailbreakers and Apple decided there was a market. I think the best thing Apple has done is to force a constant update cycle on the iPhone software that goes around the carriers. I have an Android, Samsung Moment, that is trapped in 2.1, The most current phone OS is 2.3 and my phone could easily be running 2.2 but Sprint doesn't want to pay Samsung for the upgrade. The result is I won't consider getting another Samsung phone even though their hardware is pretty good. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] New nomenclature
New Speak often amuses me. We have seen the term 'software' and 'application(s)' very quickly morph into the now common term 'app(s)' to describe any and all programs, a term that is also probably now falling into disuse in the computing world. I am now increasingly seeing the term refresh to describe not only computer screen redraws and why we use Lysol spray, but also being used to describe a hardware upgrade. In other words, one no longer 'upgrades' their computer or phone, but rather they 'refresh' whatever hardware they are desirous of replacing. So, who comes up with such new terminology or causes a term to quite suddenly become widely used by computer users lest they become fearful of being seen as illiterate in terms of computer new-speak? In that vein, why do so many seem to be so anxious to adopt these new-speak terms. I still prefer the terms 'software' or 'application' over 'app' if for no other reason that they seem more adult-like. I have no need for clipped speech a-la Twitter when communicating with others. I can easily pronounce most multisyllabic words. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
This is how it's always been, new speech comes along with every generation and every previous one complains. I think as far as the term refresh goes, this has come about when handing out the new Apple message. The term is used to describe the new lineup of computers and laptops, I think they use it because Apple never comes out with completely new systems but just does small updates to existing lines. Apple is on the third refresh of the macbook pro I believe. Perhaps you are hanging around more Apple folks? I upgrade my system often, I'm around those who upgrade often...I know no one who uses the term refresh for upgrading or rebuilding their systems. Apps obviously has come about since the app store from Apple. And now Apple is pushing it out to not only their iphone/ipod users but their general imac population. I use the phrase in terms of phone applications, the computer literate I'm around know when I say apps I'm talking phone apps. 'Did you try that app I sent you?' They know I'm talking phones. 'Did you take a look at that program I emailed you about?' They know I'm referring to computer software. I'm not sure why you associate app with being a child...unless you know a lot of mac users. Ha ha. JK On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:15 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: New Speak often amuses me. We have seen the term 'software' and 'application(s)' very quickly morph into the now common term 'app(s)' to describe any and all programs, a term that is also probably now falling into disuse in the computing world. I am now increasingly seeing the term refresh to describe not only computer screen redraws and why we use Lysol spray, but also being used to describe a hardware upgrade. In other words, one no longer 'upgrades' their computer or phone, but rather they 'refresh' whatever hardware they are desirous of replacing. So, who comes up with such new terminology or causes a term to quite suddenly become widely used by computer users lest they become fearful of being seen as illiterate in terms of computer new-speak? In that vein, why do so many seem to be so anxious to adopt these new-speak terms. I still prefer the terms 'software' or 'application' over 'app' if for no other reason that they seem more adult-like. I have no need for clipped speech a-la Twitter when communicating with others. I can easily pronounce most multisyllabic words. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:14 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: This is how it's always been, new speech comes along with every generation and every previous one complains. I believe that computer speak, except in terms of brand new products and types of devices and protocols, has remained pretty stable and not much changed since the mid-eighties. Now, quite suddenly in my estimation, I am seeing some newly popularized terms, or terms that are trying to become popularized, to describe things that have been around since the early days of computing. Apple has pushed new terminology upon the overall computing public, and I believe that to be a scheme to associate new terminology with the Apple brand. In other words, 'app' conjures up Apple's store. So perhaps Apple is running the entire new show these days, almost singly forming the computing lexicon of the future. But, I also feel that the Twitter effect, folks not having enough time, energy, attention span or available space to be able to fully express themselves, or perhaps not even caring if they do or not, is at play. Perhaps all of life is desirous of being turned into one big compressed MP3 file by some folks. I said that I see using clipped speech, truncated words and silly, single letter abbreviations for whole words as being less than adult. I do not see that as being related to Mac user and more that to any other platform, or as in 'new speak,' plat. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
On 3/19/11 4:14 PM, mike wrote: This is how it's always been, new speech comes along with every generation and every previous one complains. That's how you know you're getting. . .old. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
As I said, a new generation. Look at the tech we are talking about, the guys who invented it, popularized it are getting older, a new generation has come along and is using it's own nomenclature to describe the new and old/redone tech that surrounds them. Does the generation that came up in the 80's use the slang and exact nomenclature of those that came up in the 60's? It's quite suddenly to you probably because this new young generation is the one running the show now, they do the tech mags, they do the tech websites and youtube videos reviewing software and hardware. Look at the movers in the industry across the board, digg/reddit/twitter/facebook/google on and on, these are companies run by young people who have come of age after the heavy lifting of inventing the core base of our computer systems. You need to come to terms with something, Steve. I'm sorry to have to do this to you but someone has to get you ready for your future. Say it with me.. 'Get off my lawn!' On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:53 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that computer speak, except in terms of brand new products and types of devices and protocols, has remained pretty stable and not much changed since the mid-eighties. Now, quite suddenly in my estimation, I am seeing some newly popularized terms, or terms that are trying to become popularized, to describe things that have been around since the early days of computing. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:21 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, a new generation. Look at the tech we are talking about, the guys who invented it, popularized it are getting older, a new generation has come along and is using it's own nomenclature to describe the new and old/redone tech that surrounds them. If it is Apple that has popularized the term app. then that means Steve Jobs has either coined or approved the term. He is hardly new generation, although he often acts quite childish. Does the generation that came up in the 80's use the slang and exact nomenclature of those that came up in the 60's? That depends upon what field of endeavor you are talking about. You need to come to terms with something, Steve. I'm sorry to have to do this to you but someone has to get you ready for your future. Say it with me.. 'Get off my lawn!' Well now, hold on here. You begin to sound like you are channeling you know who. I do not have to begin speaking like a 'tweeter' just because some twenty-somethings are doing it. Plus, I do not have to adopt new slang just to try and prove something about my hipness. I am secure as I am. I shall continue to use the term 'application' as opposed to 'app.' I shall also continue to use the term software or program and I will even distinguish types of software by stating if utility or productivity because I believe that to do so provides better clarification to the recipient. Just because Mr. Jobs says that 'software' no longer exists, that what used to be 'softwre' is now an 'app,' I will simply disagree with that self-serving assessment of his. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] A**hole + iPad = trouble, leads to censorship and idiocracy
phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: My best friend says that she just endured the worst short airplane flight in her life. She was seated next to some jerk of a guy who wanted to play motion sensor games on his iPad the whole way from Charlotte to Dulles. He kept jamming and poking his elbow into her side and making all manner of guttural noises as he manipulated his iPad back and forth and to and fro. She kept complaining and trying to move away, and he would be more careful for about two minutes until he once again began to go out of control, under that 'magical' spell. She was close to calling upon the flight attendant when she realized that there was only about 15 minutes to go, so she bit her tongue and a couple of minutes later the guy finally put his little toy away in preparation for the landing. She says that the next time someone she is seated next to on a flight pulls an iPad out she is going to warn the person off the bat to be careful by retelling her tale of misery. I belong to a computer user group with a Yahoo group list; been a member long before the list moved to Yahoo. The present owner of the list is also the jerk who plays kiddie games [not even challenging or exciting games] on his iPad during our meetings, giggling, with his tongue out [age 46 going on 7]. All he and a few others wants to discuss on the list is iPads and iPhones, not computers, not even iPod Touch. He moderated [censored] me, and one other member last week, blocking our emails when she posted links to contribute aid to victims of the Japanese tsunami and I agreed it was a good idea to provide links. He said it was off-topic [it was labeled off-topic], three others wrote in to complain and start an argument. We were both censored even though neither of us started an argument, and off-topic subjects were never an issue before--they were common. This is what happens when a fanboi zombie gets to control things: Censorship and Stupidity. Will fix him on Tuesday, then may leave the group. It sucks when a few of jerks ruin a group for everybody. Idiot fanboi didn't notice that there's a link in red on Yahoo Groups pages for Japan Relief. If he did, he'd probably complain, but we'd be lucky if he left. A**holes abound. Betty p.s. Have I flamed anybody on either CGuys list lately who didn't deserve it? :-D *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] A**hole + iPad = trouble
My best friend says that she just endured the worst short airplane flight in her life. She was seated next to some jerk of a guy who wanted to play motion sensor games on his iPad the whole way from Charlotte to Dulles. He kept jamming and poking his elbow into her side and making all manner of guttural noises as he manipulated his iPad back and forth and to and fro. She kept complaining and trying to move away, and he would be more careful for about two minutes until he once again began to go out of control, under that 'magical' spell. She was close to calling upon the flight attendant when she realized that there was only about 15 minutes to go, so she bit her tongue and a couple of minutes later the guy finally put his little toy away in preparation for the landing. She says that the next time someone she is seated next to on a flight pulls an iPad out she is going to warn the person off the bat to be careful by retelling her tale of misery. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] Assange prosecution in Sweden now in turmoil
It turns out that a lead Swedish police investigator in the alleged rape case against WikiLeaks internet leaker Julian Assange had personally known one of the two female defendants for as long as a year and a half prior to the accusations made against Mr. Assange were filed. In spite of that fact, this police investigator continued as a lead investigator in the case creating a situation that clearly smacks of impropriety at the least or willful misconduct at worst. At the very outset of the situation, the two women initially approached police only to find out if Mr. Assange could be forced to be tested for HIV. After this initial approach, one of the women, and it is not known which one, became convinced by someone within the police department that she should press rape charges against Assange. The Swedish police have thus far refused to reveal who in their department talked the woman into pressing charges. Most astute individuals, with this new information at hand, should not have a hard time figuring out who that person was. At any rate, this new information has created a serious legal problem for the prosecution and has again raised questions about the entire case against Assange and what it is really all about. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] iphone apps
I think you have to be in OSX environment for IOS development. I would love to be wrong. This clown speaks for himself On Mar 8, 2011, at 2:01 AM, D Freye dfr...@fastmail.fm wrote: My friend wants to develope iphone apps on his $3000 desktop quadcore win7 machine. It runs VM at all times. Can you suggest anything in terms of soft or hard wares to get him started. Be at Peace. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] iphone apps
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt way...@panix.com wrote: I think you have to be in OSX environment for IOS development. I would love to be wrong. This clown speaks for himself Yep, iOS apps need to be developed with Apple software which requires Apple hardware unless you go the Hackintosh route which may or may not work. http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] A WinXP recording question -
I have successfully used a program called Total Recorder on my XP Vista PC's. I use the pro version almost daily to schedule the program to connect to a web site capture the stream at specific times. It natively captures recordings as WAV files but there are free encoders for it to create mp3's, for example, at various bit rates as well as options for ogg vorbis and other formats, if memory serves. Take a look at: http://www.highcriteria.com/ YMMV http://www.highcriteria.com/ *Amicitiae nostrae memoriam spero sempiternam fore* - Cicero On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote: On 3/7/2011 1:08 PM, Tom Chambers wrote: Listmembers - Does WinXP have the ability to record a one hour streaming audio program ? Can I use NERO to burn a streaming audio program directly to disc ? I have no experience in this area . Many thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction . Tom Chambers Tom, This is one of those 'all-in-one' kind of questions that I hate. Not the question itself, but how the tech industry tries to encapsulate the home user in garbage technology and garbage software. Don't use WinXP to record video. It would be like turning a Ferrari Maranello, into a Model T Ford. Nero will do the job better. Christopher *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] A WinXP recording question -
Listmembers - Does WinXP have the ability to record a one hour streaming audio program ? Can I use NERO to burn a streaming audio program directly to disc ? I have no experience in this area . Many thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction . Tom Chambers *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] A WinXP recording question -
Yes but I would not recommend it. Nero does have the capabilities to do both, if you have a full install of Nero. Often the freebies with a CD/DVD Burner does have some of these programs. I cannot remember the name of the program, but both Nero and Roxio have a sound/wav editing program. Stewart At 12:08 PM 3/7/2011, you wrote: Listmembers - Does WinXP have the ability to record a one hour streaming audio program ? Can I use NERO to burn a streaming audio program directly to disc ? I have no experience in this area . Many thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction . Tom Chambers *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] A WinXP recording question -
On 3/7/2011 1:08 PM, Tom Chambers wrote: Listmembers - Does WinXP have the ability to record a one hour streaming audio program ? Can I use NERO to burn a streaming audio program directly to disc ? I have no experience in this area . Many thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction . Tom Chambers Tom, This is one of those 'all-in-one' kind of questions that I hate. Not the question itself, but how the tech industry tries to encapsulate the home user in garbage technology and garbage software. Don't use WinXP to record video. It would be like turning a Ferrari Maranello, into a Model T Ford. Nero will do the job better. Christopher *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] Question re External HDD
Any Windows drive can be read-write on a Mac, including the invisible NTFS drives, using MacFuse and NTFS-3G utilities, available from http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/ and http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/. Betty I would win that bet quickly, Mike - as long as the drive format is compatible with Windows, I can connect it to either pc or Mac. Thank you, Mark Snyder In my own experience, it is that simple. All my machines are Windowz based, If you are moving between Mac and Win machines, all bets are off. Mike *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] iphone apps
My friend wants to develope iphone apps on his $3000 desktop quadcore win7 machine. It runs VM at all times. Can you suggest anything in terms of soft or hard wares to get him started. Be at Peace. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Iitunes on External HDD -- Not showing in Archive
As far as moving your library so you can use it on both machines, there's a fairly detailed explanation here: http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/moving-your-itunes-library-to-a-new-hard-drive/ Hi again -- I'm purging my email folder and wanted to be sure I can access thin link in the online archive of Computer guys -- but alas, this post is not showing up. What am I doing wrong? Is it my settings or what? Thanks so much ... Gail *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Iitunes on External HDD -- Not showing in Archive
On 3/6/2011 1:53 PM, Gail Miller wrote: As far as moving your library so you can use it on both machines, there's a fairly detailed explanation here: http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/moving-your-itunes-library-to-a-new-hard-drive/ I'm purging my email folder and wanted to be sure I can access thin link in the online archive of Computer guys -- but alas, this post is not showing up. What am I doing wrong? Is it my settings or what? Thanks so much ... Gail You're aware that it's gone to the old list? So if you're looking at the Yahoo archives, it won't be there. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Question re External HDD
Hi...I have a large external HDD connected to my desktop computer by a USB cable. I would like to use some of the data on the HDD on my Laptop. Can it be as simple as moving the USB cable from one machine to the other or am I missing something major here? If it works that easily, I can envision storing my photos and music on the HDD for use on both of my computers. As always, thanks in advance! Gail Miller Gail Although it's simple to move the USB drive from one computer to another, it's generally not a good idea to do that too frequently. Ports don't last forever, and ports on laptops aren't easy to replace. Yes, you can share the drive among many computers as long as it's formatted as FAT32 [also FAT 16?]. For Macs, sharing works with Samba [smb://--insert path or IP here-- ]. Other solutions are to leave the drive plugged into the desktop PC or hub and share it wirelessly with the laptop. Desktop must be running to share a drive. Better solution is to have a network drive, easy to access with its own IP address from both computers. Problem with using one drive to hold iTunes library for both computers is that the library will be missing when the drive is missing, so you'll have to create two versions of the library on each computer--one with the external drive, one without. Does your broadband modem have a USB port where the drive can be shared? Otherwise you'll need to put a bare drive into a NAS case and share it through a router/modem/switch. Next solution and cheaper than the NAS, could be best choice: get another drive, an extra 2.5-inch notebook drive. I picked up a WD 'My Passport' 500GB drive for $56 in November--it's very good, so far. For around the same price you can get a full-size external 3.5 1TB drive. You can sync both drives, or portions of each, wirelessly. Last solution only works if you have an old iPod. I have a 40GB Toshiba iPod hard drive in a very tiny USB enclosure. Fits in my pocket and is smaller than the Classic iPod. External cases for the 1.8-inch drives are hard to find. Saw some at Amazon a few weeks ago for $12. Can't help with that though. I got mine at w00t.com on a lucky day--drive and enclosure, $25. Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Wanted: reliable corded ear piece for cell phone
Seems like a minor thing but the corded ear pieces I keep buying for the cell phone keep going bad. Sick of being frustrated, so can anyone recommend a got one that might last a few months or at least a place to buy one? Also, speaking of frustration, any places to buy low-cost batteries for cordless phones that will last awhile? Or do you get what you pay for, basically? Have had hit or miss - mostly miss - on Ebay. Thanks Randall Which phone? Does it have a standard 3mm plug? 2mm? micro-USB? claw?? I have a device from Nokia that I really like. It has an On/Off button, mic, volume control, clip, but no headphones. You plug ANY headphones into it. I like my Sennheiser and Koss headphones. There are copies that may work OK. Mine is OEM and works well. I got it from DealExtreme. Headphones could be better, but mic is good. Works well when walking or running. This setup works well with phones that also have music so you can listen to your music with good stereo headphones and still be able to answer the phone. There are also short adapter cables you can buy for phones that have different ports. http://www.dealextreme.com/p/genuine-nokia-n95-stereo-headset-with-microphone-and-volume-control-24661 Buy two, just in case... All Nokia phones have a place at the bottom where you can attach a removable handstrap or lanyard. When driving alone, I usually wear my lovely red phone around my neck. The phone rings--I answer it and turn the loudspeaker on. Since the mic is at the bottom of the phone, the phone is upside down, and the stereo speakers on on the side, I can easily talk and listen completely 'hands-free'. Can you wear your phone? Doesn't have to a red phone. --- For batteries [mostly iPod], we've been using eforcity.com. They're an Amazon store and have different merchandise at Amazon and at their own site. Quality is OK. Sometimes cordless phone batteries don't recharge well if they're not placed exactly right on the cradle. Having to find specialty batteries for multiple phones led us to buy a set of four Panasonic DECT6 cordless phones that use standard AAA batteries, AND have good reception. I put Duracell 900 mAh batteries in the phones so they hold a charge almost twice as long as the OEM 550 mAh Panasonic batteries. Phone is 2005 version of this phone, http://is.gd/BoFbSp- [Amazon], which cost less! Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] Question re External HDD
Hi...I have a large external HDD connected to my desktop computer by a USB cable. I would like to use some of the data on the HDD on my Laptop. Can it be as simple as moving the USB cable from one machine to the other or am I missing something major here? If it works that easily, I can envision storing my photos and music on the HDD for use on both of my computers. As always, thanks in advance! Gail Miller *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Question re External HDD
In my own experience, it is that simple. All my machines are Windowz based, If you are moving between Mac and Win machines, all bets are off. Mike On 3/5/2011 12:22 PM, Gail Miller wrote: Hi...I have a large external HDD connected to my desktop computer by a USB cable. I would like to use some of the data on the HDD on my Laptop. Can it be as simple as moving the USB cable from one machine to the other or am I missing something major here? If it works that easily, I can envision storing my photos and music on the HDD for use on both of my computers. As always, thanks in advance! Gail Miller *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Question re External HDD
Thanks, Mike. Mine are Windows based -- XP and Windows 7. Thanks for a quick reply!! Best, Gail - Original Message - From: Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Question re External HDD In my own experience, it is that simple. All my machines are Windowz based, If you are moving between Mac and Win machines, all bets are off. Mike On 3/5/2011 12:22 PM, Gail Miller wrote: Hi...I have a large external HDD connected to my desktop computer by a USB cable. I would like to use some of the data on the HDD on my Laptop. Can it be as simple as moving the USB cable from one machine to the other or am I missing something major here? If it works that easily, I can envision storing my photos and music on the HDD for use on both of my computers. As always, thanks in advance! Gail Miller *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Question re External HDD
On 3/5/2011 12:22 PM, Gail Miller wrote: Hi...I have a large external HDD connected to my desktop computer by a USB cable. I would like to use some of the data on the HDD on my Laptop. Can it be as simple as moving the USB cable from one machine to the other or am I missing something major here? If it works that easily, I can envision storing my photos and music on the HDD for use on both of my computers. Yup. It really *is* just that easy. The OS on the laptop will assign the drive it's own drive letter. One thing though, Autoplay will try to figure out what's on the drive, and probably ask you what you want to do. I've always found Take No Action to be the most appealing option. But that may just be me. If you're using iTunes, you can move the library file to the external drive, and use it on both machines. Topic for another thread. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] Iitunes on External HDD
If you're using iTunes, you can move the library file to the external drive, and use it on both machines. Topic for another thread. Thanks! I DO use ITunes and I do store my music files on the External drive. So ... are you saying that I could use EITHER machine to sync my IPod? That would be awesome indeed!. I ran out of space on my primary HDD so moved the ITunes library to the external drive. Could you explain a little more? My IPod is the Nano with the radio. It's just about a year old -- the 4th Generation, I think. Thanks so much!! Gail *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] Question re External HDD
I would win that bet quickly, Mike - as long as the drive format is compatible with Windows, I can connect it to either pc or Mac. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- In my own experience, it is that simple. All my machines are Windowz based, If you are moving between Mac and Win machines, all bets are off. Mike On 3/5/2011 12:22 PM, Gail Miller wrote: Hi...I have a large external HDD connected to my desktop computer by a USB cable. I would like to use some of the data on the HDD on my Laptop. Can it be as simple as moving the USB cable from one machine to the other or am I missing something major here? If it works that easily, I can envision storing my photos and music on the HDD for use on both of my computers. As always, thanks in advance! Gail Miller *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Iitunes on External HDD
On 3/5/2011 1:04 PM, Gail Miller wrote: If you're using iTunes, you can move the library file to the external drive, and use it on both machines. Topic for another thread. I DO use ITunes and I do store my music files on the External drive. So ... are you saying that I could use EITHER machine to sync my IPod? That Well, I don't have any iThings (un-American, I know), so can't really answer that one. Could you explain a little more? My IPod is the Nano with the radio. It's just about a year old -- the 4th Generation, I think. As far as moving your library so you can use it on both machines, there's a fairly detailed explanation here: http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/moving-your-itunes-library-to-a-new-hard-drive/ Since you've already got the *media* moved to the external, you just need to move the *database* to it, and point iTunes to the new location. The best part about having the database travel with the media is, if you buy a new song from iTunes, or import a new CD on one machine, it'll automatically show up on the other. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Wanted: reliable corded ear piece for cell phone
That's awesome. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 7:53 AM, John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I've been using one of these for a while now. Works well with Samsung. YMMV. http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/7830/ From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 10:45:32 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Wanted: reliable corded ear piece for cell phone Seems like a minor thing but the corded ear pieces I keep buying for the cell phone keep going bad. Sick of being frustrated, so can anyone recommend a got one that might last a few months or at least a place to buy one? Also, speaking of frustration, any places to buy low-cost batteries for cordless phones that will last awhile? Or do you get what you pay for, basically? Have had hit or miss - mostly miss - on Ebay. Thanks Randall *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] malware attacks android
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/bf3d6002-452e-11e0-80e7-00144feab49a.html#axzz1FeGjsk3Y Google removed 55 apps from it's market after complaints of malware being installed on devices running the Android OS. Is it time for Google to take a more hands on approach to their market as Apple has done? I don't like Apple picking and choosing winners and losers but Google with it's vast resources could at least ensure the apps on their market are clean of malware. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] Wanted: reliable corded ear piece for cell phone
Seems like a minor thing but the corded ear pieces I keep buying for the cell phone keep going bad. Sick of being frustrated, so can anyone recommend a got one that might last a few months or at least a place to buy one? Also, speaking of frustration, any places to buy low-cost batteries for cordless phones that will last awhile? Or do you get what you pay for, basically? Have had hit or miss - mostly miss - on Ebay. Thanks Randall *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Wanted: reliable corded ear piece for cell phone
I bought a more expensive pair corded headphones for my phone and quickly learned that was a mistake. For me they didn't last any longer than cheap ones, so I bought the cheapest at Frys I could find...five or six bux a set. I keep several in my car in case the pair I'm using starts to go. No idea on the phone...we buy a new set of phones every few years because they just seem to stop working properly. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like a minor thing but the corded ear pieces I keep buying for the cell phone keep going bad. Sick of being frustrated, so can anyone recommend a got one that might last a few months or at least a place to buy one? Also, speaking of frustration, any places to buy low-cost batteries for cordless phones that will last awhile? Or do you get what you pay for, basically? Have had hit or miss - mostly miss - on Ebay. Thanks Randall *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
Hello I'm sorry I didn't tell you about my trip ... I'm currently in London,England on a short vacation as I write this ... what happened today is unbelievable,and now I am stuck here.I got mugged at gun point on my way to the hotel and my money,credit cards, phone and other valuables were stolen.I've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all,they asked us to wait for 3weeks but we can't wait till then. Thank God they did not take my passport.I urgently need your help.I just need 2000$ dollars USD to sort out my hotel bills but i'll appreciate whatsoever you can afford,I promise to pay you back once I get home.The hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills.Am so freaked out at the moment. I do have cash in my account,but I can't access it right now because I had to cancel all my credit cards that were stolen!!I'm sending this from a free internet connection at the public library. I will forever be grateful if you can help me.Please respond quickly, as my flight leaves in a few hours and I need to pay my hotel bill.Please save me from the embarrassment of not being able to cover the charges. Thanks John Roschella *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
This is spam - don't reply to him. Mike On 2/15/2011 7:13 AM, John Roschella wrote: Hello I'm sorry I didn't tell you about my trip ... I'm currently in London,England John Roschella *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
Ya think, Mike? What clued you in - no real way to contact him - not even the name of the hotel? The foreign representation of money? The fact that list members do not mention trips unless they have tech-related questions? That spam appears to be quite old and made me LOL. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- This is spam - don't reply to him. Mike On 2/15/2011 7:13 AM, John Roschella wrote: Hello I'm sorry I didn't tell you about my trip ... I'm currently in London,England John Roschella *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
They seem to go in cycles. A friend of mine sent me a similar one that she had gotten from a former pastors wife who left under less than honorable conditions, and she forwarded it to the Sheriff. She was that suspicious. Stewart At 08:14 AM 2/15/2011, you wrote: Ya think, Mike? What clued you in - no real way to contact him - not even the name of the hotel? The foreign representation of money? The fact that list members do not mention trips unless they have tech-related questions? That spam appears to be quite old and made me LOL. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- This is spam - don't reply to him. Mike On 2/15/2011 7:13 AM, John Roschella wrote: Hello I'm sorry I didn't tell you about my trip ... I'm currently in London,England John Roschella *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: They seem to go in cycles. A friend of mine sent me a similar one that she had gotten from a former pastors wife who left under less than honorable conditions, and she forwarded it to the Sheriff. She was that suspicious. Why would anyone respond to an e-mail from someone that they do not know, have no idea who the sender is, and especially since the e-mail suggests familiarity where none exists? Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
Oh this was an email from someone she knew for about 10 years. She left when her husband took a call in another locality last Summer. She was not about to send her money and thought it was the real person who she has tangled with before because of financial problems. The one sent to this list was unusual as it sent it to an email list, not an individual. If I understand it correctly, this is done by someone or something that hacks yahoo accounts and then uses their address books within Yahoo to send out these missives. I got two last year. One from a member of this or another similar list and then one from a church list I manage. These were individuals who I have known and have communicated with. The first one I was sorry for their problem but was not about to send money. The second one i had just seen an email from on the list a day or two before and they had not mentioned traveling. (and this person does a bit of it.) So I was suspicious right off. He then wrote me as manager of the list that his Yahoo account had problems. When my friend forwarded this one to me, I knew right off that it was a scam. Stewart At 08:05 PM 2/15/2011, you wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: They seem to go in cycles. A friend of mine sent me a similar one that she had gotten from a former pastors wife who left under less than honorable conditions, and she forwarded it to the Sheriff. She was that suspicious. Why would anyone respond to an e-mail from someone that they do not know, have no idea who the sender is, and especially since the e-mail suggests familiarity where none exists? Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
One of these Stranded Traveller messages got posted to another computer email list I subscribe to, last year. The message was specifically written to appeal to the kind of person on the email list (women, in IT, many of them young.) At the time, I pointed out that the lack of specific information made the Stranded Traveller's appeal VERY suspicious, and suggested that if anyone on the list really wanted to help the Stranded Traveller, they should offer advice to her (such as, contact the U.S. consulate or embassy). AFAIK, no one sent money. I think they would have sent funds, if the appeal had been genuine; because people really do feel obliged to help when someone is in trouble. Helpfulness is just as much a part of human nature as the impulse to defraud. --Constance On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: Oh this was an email from someone she knew for about 10 years. She left when her husband took a call in another locality last Summer. She was not about to send her money and thought it was the real person who she has tangled with before because of financial problems. The one sent to this list was unusual as it sent it to an email list, not an individual. If I understand it correctly, this is done by someone or something that hacks yahoo accounts and then uses their address books within Yahoo to send out these missives. I got two last year. One from a member of this or another similar list and then one from a church list I manage. These were individuals who I have known and have communicated with. The first one I was sorry for their problem but was not about to send money. The second one i had just seen an email from on the list a day or two before and they had not mentioned traveling. (and this person does a bit of it.) So I was suspicious right off. He then wrote me as manager of the list that his Yahoo account had problems. When my friend forwarded this one to me, I knew right off that it was a scam. Stewart At 08:05 PM 2/15/2011, you wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: They seem to go in cycles. A friend of mine sent me a similar one that she had gotten from a former pastors wife who left under less than honorable conditions, and she forwarded it to the Sheriff. She was that suspicious. Why would anyone respond to an e-mail from someone that they do not know, have no idea who the sender is, and especially since the e-mail suggests familiarity where none exists? Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] EXT :Re: [CGUYS] HELP..................................John Roschella
Yup and as part of my profession I have helped more folks who probably should not have been helped than you can count over the years. Stewart At 08:35 PM 2/15/2011, you wrote: One of these Stranded Traveller messages got posted to another computer email list I subscribe to, last year. The message was specifically written to appeal to the kind of person on the email list (women, in IT, many of them young.) At the time, I pointed out that the lack of specific information made the Stranded Traveller's appeal VERY suspicious, and suggested that if anyone on the list really wanted to help the Stranded Traveller, they should offer advice to her (such as, contact the U.S. consulate or embassy). AFAIK, no one sent money. I think they would have sent funds, if the appeal had been genuine; because people really do feel obliged to help when someone is in trouble. Helpfulness is just as much a part of human nature as the impulse to defraud. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] think i've been taken: replacement laptop keys
Judy Contact an electronics recycler. They get all kinds of computers and peripherals. When they can, they fix them, otherwise they sell parts, or or dismantle and recycle the parts into base components and elements. I just found a video card for one of our older computers for about 25% of the price for used ones online. I've found Wifi cards, optical drives, almost new mice, projectors. Call a few recycling companies. Maybe they have the full keyboard for the price of a few keys. Doesn't hurt to ask. Betty *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] think i've been taken: replacement laptop keys
I would imagine it would depend on the laptop. I have lost and replaced keys on my MacBook. Mason On Feb 13, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Judy Cosler wrote: first of all, which is the correct address for this list? the yahoo address? I think I've been taken! Is there any such thing as replacement keys for laptop keyboards? I ordered some online they are taking a verrry lng time to get here! Plus most everything I read online says no such thing; have to replace entire keyboard! Pls. confirm or not. thanks, Judy *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] think i've been taken: replacement laptop keys
did u buy the keys from Apple, Mason? On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Mason Miller mil...@sitewelder.comwrote: I would imagine it would depend on the laptop. I have lost and replaced keys on my MacBook. Mason On Feb 13, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Judy Cosler wrote: first of all, which is the correct address for this list? the yahoo address? I think I've been taken! Is there any such thing as replacement keys for laptop keyboards? I ordered some online they are taking a verrry lng time to get here! Plus most everything I read online says no such thing; have to replace entire keyboard! Pls. confirm or not. thanks, Judy *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] think i've been taken: replacement laptop keys
I have no idea who you ordered from but if it was Ebay check and see if it was HK or China. If I want it fast, I find a domestic seller, and pay a little extra. Otherwise I bide my time, as shipping from there can take a month. Yes individual keys can be replaced. You need to be careful as there are usually little barbs or hooks on them that break easily. But you can replace individual keys and it is easier than opening up and replacing keyboards. So first check and see where you bought them from and see if it is overseas. Second contact the seller and ask what is going on. I ordered a book before Christmas did not arrive within 4 weeks.Contacted seller, he issued refund. Book promptly showed up on my door step. (Shipped media mail notoriously slow.) Stewart At 10:17 AM 2/13/2011, you wrote: I think I've been taken! Is there any such thing as replacement keys for laptop keyboards? I ordered some online they are taking a verrry lng time to get here! Plus most everything I read online says no such thing; have to replace entire keyboard! Pls. confirm or not. thanks, Judy Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] CPCUG EC SIG: Taxes w/ CPA Jina Etienne
--- 2/19/11: TAXES: What Every Entrepreneur and Consultant Needs To Know Speaker: Jina Etienne, CPA, Etienne Associates, LLC --- Capital PC User Group (CPCUG) Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG (EC SIG) (Meets the 3rd Saturday afternoon of most months; Cleveland Park Library, 1st Floor, Large Meeting Room 3310 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Washington, DC Saturday, February 19, 2011, 12:45-3:15 pm - * Handout * - Door Prizes, including _Switch: How To Change Things When Change Is Hard_ by Chip and Dan Heath - TAXES: What Every Entrepreneur and Consultant Needs To Know Speaker: Jina Etienne, CPA, Etienne Associates Is your business paying more in taxes than required by law? Whether your business grosses millions of dollars each year or you are just getting started as an independent consultant, you probably hire an outside accountant to handle tax return submission. The ultimate responsibility for paying appropriate taxes, however, is yours. Do you have the basic accounting knowledge needed to supervise the work of your accountant? Do you stay current on tax law changes? Because tax return deadlines for corporations and individuals are approaching, the focus of this presentation will be on income tax compliance and preparation rather than on tax planning and consulting issues. This presentation will alert you to mistakes and oversights that can cost you money, and to tax law changes you need to know about. The presentation will be followed by a question and answer session, so gather your questions and join us. Speaker: Jina Etienne, CPA, has more than 15 years of public accounting experience. She began her career with Deloitte Touche, one of the Big Eight accounting firms, where her focus was tax planning and compliance for corporations, partnerships, and S corporations ranging from government contractors and vending companies to hospitality and retail firms. When she left Deloitte Touche to start Etienne Associates, LLC, her focus shifted to the needs of small- and medium-sized businesses. With her own practice, Jina Etienne provides a wide range of accounting services for businesses and individuals, including tax planning and preparation, and business consulting. Her client base is diverse, including retail and service-based businesses as well as consultants and contractors. For individuals, her services generally include tax return preparation and tax planning, including tax research and representation before the IRS. Ms. Etienne earned an M.S. in taxation in 1993 and a B.S.B.A. in accounting in 1989 from American University. Jina has also taught accounting as an adjunct professor at American University and teaches QuickBooks at accounting seminars and conferences. * Cleveland Park Library, 1st Floor, Large Meeting Room 3310 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Washington, DC (west side, between Macomb and Newark Streets) Metrorail: Cleveland Park Subway Station, Red Line Connecticut Avenue, NW Just 1.5 blocks north of meeting site Parking: Street For additional Information about the CPCUG EC SIG and its events (including any updates on topics, speakers, dates, times, and locations; agenda; area map; related Web links; and more), visit the CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG Web pages-- http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/ These events are FREE and open to all. Advance RSVPs are needed for event planning. To RSVP: Send e-mail to Barbara Conn, bc...@cpcug.org ** Saturday, February 19, 2011, 12:45-3:15 pm 12:45 pm Check-In 1:00 pm Program: TAXES: What Every Entrepreneur and Consultant Needs To Know Speaker: Jina Etienne, CPA, Etienne Associates, LLC http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/211meet.html ** Dates/Times of Future Meetings (topics and speakers to be announced): Third Saturdays: Saturday, March 19, 2011 Saturday, April 16, 2011 Saturday, May 21, 2011 Saturday, June 18, 2011 *** Barbara Conn, bc...@cpcug.org Capital PC User Group (CPCUG) Users Helping Users Chair, CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/ *** CONENT-D: CPCUG Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG list for event announcements and discussion of business, technology, and computer hardware and software selection, setup, installation, maintenance, and upgrade (usually low volume) To subscribe: http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/index.html#listsub
Re: [CGUYS] LG ALLY
My Sprint Samsung Moment is two versions back at Eclair 2.1.1 with little hope of an upgrade to Froyo 2.2 let alone Gingerbread. Apparently this is one either the manufacturer or the network depending on who thinks who should pay for the upgrade of older phones. I think though this will be a short sighted with people avoiding certain manufacturers due to their phones bad status with regard to upgrades. I like Samsung but if their phones are not getting upgrades that are feasible and HTC phones are getting those upgrades guess who is making is my next phone. This is one place where the Apple way is definitely the better way. All iPhones that are capable get the upgrade but there are some orphan iPhones out there. On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: The older Droid may ship with 2.1 but it updates itself to 2.2.1 All of Verizon's line should be updating themselves to 2.2.1 as I was told that Ally would not ever get it. They no longer sell the Devour which shipped with 1.6 Stewart At 01:06 PM 1/23/2011, you wrote: Samsung galaxy on sprint is shipping with 2.1, this is the high water maker for android phones across all carriers. The lower end hero is also shipping with 2.1, also currently available. These are just two I know off the top of my head...I'm sure other carriers are shipping 2.1 as well. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] A MAC hard drive question -
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Tom Chambers tom.chamb...@wdn.com wrote: List members ; A friend wants to dispose of two old MACs , but is worried about information which may still be on the hard drives . Is there a way to wipe or overwrite the drives before dumping the machines ? Why not just remove the drives? The older Macs, OS 9 machines, were quite easy to get into. It would take less time to take those drives out than to zero them out. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
[CGUYS] LG ALLY
Well shiver me timbers, call me Ishmael. Last night during our sleeping hours, my wife's phone received an update. When my wife checked her version number it said 2.2.1. I checked and sure enough the Hot spot icon is in her apps. So it looks like Google has heard the calls and is trying to get all the current crop of phones on the same version of OS. (My Droid 2 came with 2.2.1) So thank you Verizon and Google for listening. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] LG ALLY
It's not Google..it's LG and Verizon. Unless Google is putting presure on Verizon/LG that we don't know about. I view Google as creating the base OS and putting it outside their garage in whatever builds there are and phone manufacturers driving by and picking up what they want. Some 1.6, some 2.2..some 2.1. I don't think Google gives a you know what which OS these vendors are using. The two phones that of course bypass that scenario are the nexus phones. I'm still looking into rooting my EVO running 2.2. It is slightly more difficult than the literal one click root my hero had available. On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Well shiver me timbers, call me Ishmael. Last night during our sleeping hours, my wife's phone received an update. When my wife checked her version number it said 2.2.1. I checked and sure enough the Hot spot icon is in her apps. So it looks like Google has heard the calls and is trying to get all the current crop of phones on the same version of OS. (My Droid 2 came with 2.2.1) So thank you Verizon and Google for listening. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] LG ALLY
That is possible, but there is not a phone being marketed right now that still uses 1.6 or 2.1 They are all being updated or pulled from the marker so it may be mutual. I know it is much simpler to be supporting only one level of OS on different platforms that a multiple levels of an OS over a bunch of platforms. Stewart At 12:53 PM 1/23/2011, you wrote: It's not Google..it's LG and Verizon. Unless Google is putting presure on Verizon/LG that we don't know about. I view Google as creating the base OS and putting it outside their garage in whatever builds there are and phone manufacturers driving by and picking up what they want. Some 1.6, some 2.2..some 2.1. I don't think Google gives a you know what which OS these vendors are using. The two phones that of course bypass that scenario are the nexus phones. I'm still looking into rooting my EVO running 2.2. It is slightly more difficult than the literal one click root my hero had available. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] LG ALLY
Samsung galaxy on sprint is shipping with 2.1, this is the high water maker for android phones across all carriers. The lower end hero is also shipping with 2.1, also currently available. These are just two I know off the top of my head...I'm sure other carriers are shipping 2.1 as well. On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: That is possible, but there is not a phone being marketed right now that still uses 1.6 or 2.1 They are all being updated or pulled from the marker so it may be mutual. I know it is much simpler to be supporting only one level of OS on different platforms that a multiple levels of an OS over a bunch of platforms. Stewart At 12:53 PM 1/23/2011, you wrote: It's not Google..it's LG and Verizon. Unless Google is putting presure on Verizon/LG that we don't know about. I view Google as creating the base OS and putting it outside their garage in whatever builds there are and phone manufacturers driving by and picking up what they want. Some 1.6, some 2.2..some 2.1. I don't think Google gives a you know what which OS these vendors are using. The two phones that of course bypass that scenario are the nexus phones. I'm still looking into rooting my EVO running 2.2. It is slightly more difficult than the literal one click root my hero had available. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
