Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610
On Jan 11, 2010, at 11:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: But I have found that when I buy a budget printer I get exactly what I paid for. I bought a cheap color laser (cn3100) from Dell about 3 years ago for a bit over $300. For my low volume use it is completely satisfactory. I even use it for pre-press proofs and it is very close. It works on the LAN and even supports PostScript. My only complaint is that it is ugly. In contrast, every HP color laser I have encountered has a warm up time measured in minutes and is deadly slow printing. I would avoid. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Whoa. My el-cheapo HP 2600n 'warms up' in seconds. I don't print too many color pages, and never color photos, but I've never noticed it being particularly slow. Works great. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:41 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: In contrast, every HP color laser I have encountered has a warm up time measured in minutes and is deadly slow printing. I would avoid. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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That's the going price these days - Staples is also $99. As with all inkjets, where they make their profit is by selling you the ink cartridges. I can't imagine wireless setup would be easy if you couldn't do it via a control panel over USB. I mean, I can't imagine myself standing there and trying to manually key in our 64 bit WPA key. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:23 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Workforce-Wireless-Printer-C11CA50201/dp/B002JM1XOY That's 99 bux at fry's electronics, anyone have opinions? Any reason NOT to jump on this at that price? Replacing a tired one my wife uses almost exclusively for school. Any thoughts appreciated. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Oh I know that's how they make the money. It looks on first glance about 65 bux to replace all four cartridges. What I am having a hard time finding is what kind of output I'm looking at for say just text, I really have no idea. 200 pages on one black cartridge? Less? More? I've either got to spend 65 or 70 and replace out toner in the little laser we have...and hope the drum isn't going out because it's printing..strangely...or get this epson and deal with the increased ink costs but have the advantages of an AIO and WIFI. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: That's the going price these days - Staples is also $99. As with all inkjets, where they make their profit is by selling you the ink cartridges. I can't imagine wireless setup would be easy if you couldn't do it via a control panel over USB. I mean, I can't imagine myself standing there and trying to manually key in our 64 bit WPA key. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:23 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Workforce-Wireless-Printer-C11CA50201/dp/B002JM1XOY That's 99 bux at fry's electronics, anyone have opinions? Any reason NOT to jump on this at that price? Replacing a tired one my wife uses almost exclusively for school. Any thoughts appreciated. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going for excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save you $. Innovera makes inks for several Epson models, so far I haven't had a problem. Nobody's going to give you a page count/cartridge figure. The only way I calculated ours was to keep track for the first cartridge set vs. page count, come up with a (very rough) estimate. Of course, we'd already bought the printer. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 dt...@indianahistory.org Discover the Indiana Experience, a New Way to Live History: http://www.indianahistory.org/experience -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 11:58 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610 Oh I know that's how they make the money. It looks on first glance about 65 bux to replace all four cartridges. What I am having a hard time finding is what kind of output I'm looking at for say just text, I really have no idea. 200 pages on one black cartridge? Less? More? I've either got to spend 65 or 70 and replace out toner in the little laser we have...and hope the drum isn't going out because it's printing..strangely...or get this epson and deal with the increased ink costs but have the advantages of an AIO and WIFI. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: That's the going price these days - Staples is also $99. As with all inkjets, where they make their profit is by selling you the ink cartridges. I can't imagine wireless setup would be easy if you couldn't do it via a control panel over USB. I mean, I can't imagine myself standing there and trying to manually key in our 64 bit WPA key. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:23 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Workforce-Wireless-Printer-C11CA50201/dp/B002JM1XOY That's 99 bux at fry's electronics, anyone have opinions? Any reason NOT to jump on this at that price? Replacing a tired one my wife uses almost exclusively for school. Any thoughts appreciated. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Ink jets I always look for individual color ink tanks. I go through yellow faster than everything else and on three ink tank would only half empty the other two. I tried to standardize to one brand of printer in the house because I have Ink that works on both printers. My Canon's have two black ink tanks a big one and a smaller one. Downside is that it still won't print if the black 5 tank is empty and the black 8 tank is full. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.org wrote: Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going for excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save you $. There are companies, but not a lot of them, that make generic inks for many printers that provide for better color reproduction and a higher degree of archival quality than the inks offered by the printer makers themselves. These ink makers do not primarily cater to folks who are simply looking for cheaper inks for their printers, but rather to folks who seek very high quality inks for purposes usually related to the production of artwork. Some of their basic are less expensive then what is offered by the printer manufacturer, while many of their higher-end inks are not, and some of their ink sets are not even offered by the printer maker, probably most specifically the quadtone inksets and carbon-based inks for black and white imaging. These carbon-based inks can create bw images that are virtually indistinguishable from real photographic silver prints. Higher end inks are usually paired up with certain papers using ICC color profiles to be able to achieve the intended final result. My point is that third-party ink makers are not necessarily providers of lesser quality inks. However, most generic ink makers do not provide inks that are the equivalent of the original inks made by the printer manufacturer. The best generic ink suppliers will give you information about how their inks stack up against the originals. They will do this by comparing the chemical analysis of their inks against the inks made by the printer manufacturer, including two important points, the viscosity and ph factors of the ink. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the printer. Third party ink experiences? Good or bad? Company names? I think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer... On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.org wrote: Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going for excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save you $. There are companies, but not a lot of them, that make generic inks for many printers that provide for better color reproduction and a higher degree of archival quality than the inks offered by the printer makers themselves. These ink makers do not primarily cater to folks who are simply looking for cheaper inks for their printers, but rather to folks who seek very high quality inks for purposes usually related to the production of artwork. Some of their basic are less expensive then what is offered by the printer manufacturer, while many of their higher-end inks are not, and some of their ink sets are not even offered by the printer maker, probably most specifically the quadtone inksets and carbon-based inks for black and white imaging. These carbon-based inks can create bw images that are virtually indistinguishable from real photographic silver prints. Higher end inks are usually paired up with certain papers using ICC color profiles to be able to achieve the intended final result. My point is that third-party ink makers are not necessarily providers of lesser quality inks. However, most generic ink makers do not provide inks that are the equivalent of the original inks made by the printer manufacturer. The best generic ink suppliers will give you information about how their inks stack up against the originals. They will do this by comparing the chemical analysis of their inks against the inks made by the printer manufacturer, including two important points, the viscosity and ph factors of the ink. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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That's right, these things are under some pressure, aren't they? This Epson comes with full cartridges, but it tells you half of the first is needed for 'charging'. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the printer. Third party ink experiences? Good or bad? Company names? I think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer... On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.org wrote: Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going for excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save you $. There are companies, but not a lot of them, that make generic inks for many printers that provide for better color reproduction and a higher degree of archival quality than the inks offered by the printer makers themselves. These ink makers do not primarily cater to folks who are simply looking for cheaper inks for their printers, but rather to folks who seek very high quality inks for purposes usually related to the production of artwork. Some of their basic are less expensive then what is offered by the printer manufacturer, while many of their higher-end inks are not, and some of their ink sets are not even offered by the printer maker, probably most specifically the quadtone inksets and carbon-based inks for black and white imaging. These carbon-based inks can create bw images that are virtually indistinguishable from real photographic silver prints. Higher end inks are usually paired up with certain papers using ICC color profiles to be able to achieve the intended final result. My point is that third-party ink makers are not necessarily providers of lesser quality inks. However, most generic ink makers do not provide inks that are the equivalent of the original inks made by the printer manufacturer. The best generic ink suppliers will give you information about how their inks stack up against the originals. They will do this by comparing the chemical analysis of their inks against the inks made by the printer manufacturer, including two important points, the viscosity and ph factors of the ink. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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At present I have three different Epson printers. RX700 R300 CX8400 I use generic cartridges in all. The CX8400 uses chips and they have made a system that works successfully with the chips but it is not perfect. Matter of fact the refills I got for the CX are from Ebay. No blow ups no out right failures. Just be aware that Epsons seems to go through a lot of ink. Read reviews on Cnet first. You should be able to get a comparable HP for a similar price and their cartridges seem to last longer. (I have a few of those also) Stewart At 01:08 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the printer. Third party ink experiences? Good or bad? Company names? I think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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probably only comes .53 percent full too.. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: That's right, these things are under some pressure, aren't they? This Epson comes with full cartridges, but it tells you half of the first is needed for 'charging'. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the printer. Third party ink experiences? Good or bad? Company names? I think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer... On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.org wrote: Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going for excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save you $. There are companies, but not a lot of them, that make generic inks for many printers that provide for better color reproduction and a higher degree of archival quality than the inks offered by the printer makers themselves. These ink makers do not primarily cater to folks who are simply looking for cheaper inks for their printers, but rather to folks who seek very high quality inks for purposes usually related to the production of artwork. Some of their basic are less expensive then what is offered by the printer manufacturer, while many of their higher-end inks are not, and some of their ink sets are not even offered by the printer maker, probably most specifically the quadtone inksets and carbon-based inks for black and white imaging. These carbon-based inks can create bw images that are virtually indistinguishable from real photographic silver prints. Higher end inks are usually paired up with certain papers using ICC color profiles to be able to achieve the intended final result. My point is that third-party ink makers are not necessarily providers of lesser quality inks. However, most generic ink makers do not provide inks that are the equivalent of the original inks made by the printer manufacturer. The best generic ink suppliers will give you information about how their inks stack up against the originals. They will do this by comparing the chemical analysis of their inks against the inks made by the printer manufacturer, including two important points, the viscosity and ph factors of the ink. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the printer. Third party ink experiences? Good or bad? Company names? I think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer... Epson won a lawsuit in the Unites States a few years ago that bars third parties from replicating their cartridges, filling them with ink and selling them. A couple of companies designed carts that, while not closely replicating the Epson ones, do work just fine in the printers they were designed for. Epson fumed a bit, but could not really do anything about it. However, because of that lawsuit, Epson third party carts are hard to come by these days. To my knowledge, no other major printer makers have filed similar lawsuits. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I remember that but it was only for newer carts. My RX700 does not use a chip so I have had no problems. the CX8400 does have a chip and I am pretty sure these are from off shore. They are a two piecer. A tank with ink, plus a shell with the chip. They are not the same quality as Epson but they last just as long and are about 1/4 the price. This is not my main printer so I am not as concerned. I have an HP 7650 which is my main color ink jet (Office class from HP) and the refills for this are pretty inexpensive and I get more mileage from it. Stewart At 04:13 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the printer. Third party ink experiences? Good or bad? Company names? I think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer... Epson won a lawsuit in the Unites States a few years ago that bars third parties from replicating their cartridges, filling them with ink and selling them. A couple of companies designed carts that, while not closely replicating the Epson ones, do work just fine in the printers they were designed for. Epson fumed a bit, but could not really do anything about it. However, because of that lawsuit, Epson third party carts are hard to come by these days. To my knowledge, no other major printer makers have filed similar lawsuits. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Mike While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need color? I just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was $25 for 2000+ copies, the other was on sale for $20 for 2500+ copies. Color inkjet cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it? Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a fax that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax software. I have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or fax break in the AIO will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out. Then you're left with an oversized printer. We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great. Small footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I do both. I have a BW laser that I urge the family to use for everyday printing that does not need color. However when it is time for color I like the AIO. The fax works great especially for RECEIVING FAXES. Very rarely do I send one, but I do get them in. Computers do not work for this much anymore (unless you have a fax modem installed) Plus the AIO's are great document scanners. I love having the ADF's on them for doing a lot of scanning work. I cannot buy a flat bed with ADF for less than the AIO's and often they are much cheaper. Plus I have had the printer fail before the scanner in many cases. And just for discussion sake. I much prefer the Epson scanners to the HP's. If I have to scan in a picture etc. I will use my Epson and not the HP. Documents HP is OK. I think it is in the software, I have seen numerous comments that their software interface sucks. To add to this discussion. For bulk scanning of documents. Which do you prefer, Omnipage, Abby Press or Paperport? Stewart At 04:40 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: Mike While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need color? I just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was $25 for 2000+ copies, the other was on sale for $20 for 2500+ copies. Color inkjet cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it? Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a fax that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax software. I have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or fax break in the AIO will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out. Then you're left with an oversized printer. We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great. Small footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yes we've been tossing around the same questions. We have a small HP laser, refills locally at a dealer are 65 bux. We think the drum may be going out because for about the last 3rd of the cycle it's been dropping toner on the left side. I faxed today...last week twice. But yes, these things you list are on our minds. Thanks for putting it out there. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:40 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Mike While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need color? I just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was $25 for 2000+ copies, the other was on sale for $20 for 2500+ copies. Color inkjet cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it? Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a fax that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax software. I have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or fax break in the AIO will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out. Then you're left with an oversized printer. We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great. Small footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On 1/11/10, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I do both. I have a BW laser that I urge the family to use for everyday printing that does not need color. However when it is time for color I like the AIO. The fax works great especially for RECEIVING FAXES. Very rarely do I send one, but I do get them in. Computers do not work for this much anymore (unless you have a fax modem installed) Plus the AIO's are great document scanners. I love having the ADF's on them for doing a lot of scanning work. I cannot buy a flat bed with ADF for less than the AIO's and often they are much cheaper. Plus I have had the printer fail before the scanner in many cases. And just for discussion sake. I much prefer the Epson scanners to the HP's. If I have to scan in a picture etc. I will use my Epson and not the HP. Documents HP is OK. I think it is in the software, I have seen numerous comments that their software interface sucks. To add to this discussion. For bulk scanning of documents. Which do you prefer, Omnipage, Abby Press or Paperport? Stewart At 04:40 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: Mike While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need color? I just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was $25 for 2000+ copies, the other was on sale for $20 for 2500+ copies. Color inkjet cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it? Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a fax that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax software. I have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or fax break in the AIO will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out. Then you're left with an oversized printer. We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great. Small footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Ok...now I can't make up any mind. Fry's electronics has a refurb to factory spec samsung color laser for 110 dollars. This seems closer to our need, will give us some color when we need it, but will also handle the output for my wife's school needs. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Darrell Anon subbucket...@gmail.comwrote: On 1/11/10, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I do both. I have a BW laser that I urge the family to use for everyday printing that does not need color. However when it is time for color I like the AIO. The fax works great especially for RECEIVING FAXES. Very rarely do I send one, but I do get them in. Computers do not work for this much anymore (unless you have a fax modem installed) Plus the AIO's are great document scanners. I love having the ADF's on them for doing a lot of scanning work. I cannot buy a flat bed with ADF for less than the AIO's and often they are much cheaper. Plus I have had the printer fail before the scanner in many cases. And just for discussion sake. I much prefer the Epson scanners to the HP's. If I have to scan in a picture etc. I will use my Epson and not the HP. Documents HP is OK. I think it is in the software, I have seen numerous comments that their software interface sucks. To add to this discussion. For bulk scanning of documents. Which do you prefer, Omnipage, Abby Press or Paperport? Stewart At 04:40 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: Mike While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need color? I just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was $25 for 2000+ copies, the other was on sale for $20 for 2500+ copies. Color inkjet cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it? Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a fax that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax software. I have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or fax break in the AIO will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out. Then you're left with an oversized printer. We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great. Small footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Talk to others first and read reviews. One of my members bought one of these and returned it he was that disappointed. Ended up getting an HP. Stewart At 10:15 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: Ok...now I can't make up any mind. Fry's electronics has a refurb to factory spec samsung color laser for 110 dollars. This seems closer to our need, will give us some color when we need it, but will also handle the output for my wife's school needs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I know that many of us (Except a few on this list) are constrained by budgets when we choose computer accessories. But I have found that when I buy a budget printer I get exactly what I paid for. The Workforce line from Epson is supposed to be pretty good. Also look at the HP office jet line. The L series is extremely good. Duplexing, networking etc. Plus it uses multiple cartridges (4 color) not AIO color carts. I bought a L7650 this summer for just over $100, it was a refurb. I have been extremely pleased with it, plus I got an extra paper tray for $25 and put it on. Their newer series is 8500 series. Look closely and figure out how much you really want to pay for this printer. Spend a little more and get what you need, you are investing money in this thing. You want one that will last a few years. Check Epsons and see what they have in refurbs. the RX700 I bought was a refurb, and it sold for over 200 new but I paid just over 100 and free shipping from Epson. Check HP's refurbs (I have found their prices are usually not a great deal.) Finally check out www.compgeek.com for refurb printers. Most of all read reviews of any printer you want to buy FIRST. You will be reading real peoples reactions to these printers. Look long and hard before you leap. Stewart At 10:22 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: Talk to others first and read reviews. One of my members bought one of these and returned it he was that disappointed. Ended up getting an HP. Stewart At 10:15 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: Ok...now I can't make up any mind. Fry's electronics has a refurb to factory spec samsung color laser for 110 dollars. This seems closer to our need, will give us some color when we need it, but will also handle the output for my wife's school needs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] epson workforce 610
http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Workforce-Wireless-Printer-C11CA50201/dp/B002JM1XOY That's 99 bux at fry's electronics, anyone have opinions? Any reason NOT to jump on this at that price? Replacing a tired one my wife uses almost exclusively for school. Any thoughts appreciated. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
