Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 01:41, Han Boetes wrote: Frederic Conrotte wrote: Since I switched to Linux with MDK8.2, I've always noticed the XFS daemon (X Font Server) and the DM daemon (Display Manager) are not started among the first services to be started. DM need XFS started before it can be launched. DM is the services that launch KDE and therefore the sooner it is started the sooner you will get KDE up. For example, for MDK9.2, I moved XFS and DM to S01xfs and S02dm in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/: S01xfs S02dm S03iptables S09network I used the program 'serel' from http://www.fastboot.org for a while during the 9.1 - 9.2 cooker phase, and had no problems with it. Bootup was faster. The program has not been updated in a while, but seems to be fairly complete as it stands. I had to manually add a few service dependancies (like harddrake and dm), as it is currently tuned for redhat systems. Possibly somebody could try packaging it for cooker, as it does seem to be a useful piece of software. Chris -- -+-- Chris Picton | PGP Key ID: 9D28A988 (wwwkeys.pgp.net) Solutions Developer | PGP Key Fingerprint: Tangent Systems | 2B46 29EA D530 79EC D9EA 3ED0 229D 6DD6 9D28 A988 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.tangent.co.za/keys/chrisp.asc -+-- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms
I've built rpms of kernel-2.6-test8 (thanks to Andrey who released supermount for -test8). You may just as well jump to test9. I built against test8 only because test9 did not propagated to locale kernel.org mirror last weekend. patch applies to it even without any offset. Also I had very nasty problem with test8 - no traffic ever flowed over dialup PPP connection. test9 fixed it whatever it was. Oh and test8 does not boot with inintrd and devfs :) -andrey ., . - http://r.mail.ru/cln2135/mail.ru
Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:15:30PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/private/download/updates/90_i386.html Except if you use their .patch.rpms: RPM XFree86 4.3.0.1 (i586) 9938 kB Patch-RPM XFree86 4.3.0.1-patch (i586)344 kB At present we make huge updates (ie the kdebase one) for really small fixes (I'm guess a less than 5 kB source patch) which result in really minimal changes to the files distributed (I'm guessing less than 10kB), but we distribute full new versions of all subpackages ... There must be a better way ... the problem is that rpm does not support the concept of patches, i believe suse solution would result in rpm -V saying that files were modified. we could try producing xdeltas of fixed rpms and have urpmi ask for the original cd to produce the fixed rpm a better solution would be being able to modify rpm to allow patches to be applied. L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 10:52 pm, Vedran Ljubovic wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't even own a network card. Therefore I probably don't need sshd at all. Isn't xinetd startup of ssh disabled by default, in favour of starting as a daemon? Hm you're right. It seems that xinetd is used for fam. - While I'm at it, I also don't need netfs, nfslock (thus portmap) If you want to use NFS you need them all. If you don't use NFS, 'urpme nfs-utils-client' or whatever it is. AFAIK you need portmap for fam to work? Ok, I'll remove nfs. No use for it over dialup. Btw do you think that it would cause too much trouble if nfs is not enabled by default, atleast for us dialup users? Well I was on dial up (DSL now), but I have a lan, and the server shares the inet connection, and I need NFS enabled by default. Perhaps the installer/control panel should ask whether you want NFS (server/client), or not at all. -- John Allen, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeClub Silver Member. http://allentech.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed
--- John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I was on dial up (DSL now), but I have a lan, and the server shares the inet connection, and I need NFS enabled by default. Perhaps the installer/control panel should ask whether you want NFS (server/client), or not at all. Yes, but you had both a modem AND a network card. My idea was to disable lan services (nfs, samba, tmdns) if no network card is detected. __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
[Cooker] bootsplash kernel progress bar on non-mdk kernel
Apparently this progress bar is displayed not by kernel but by some external program? On 2.4.23-pre8 it is too short while on 2.6 it extends over the right side - apparently it depends on relative kernel version number :) seriously, how it is computed? Oh, and anyone knows any attepmt to port bootsplash to 2.6? Even incomplete one - it could be taken for a start TIA -andrey please Cc me I do not receive cooker
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6254] [icewm-light] New: Multibyte character cannot be displayed in icewm menu
have you tried to remove your existing .icewm directory and restart icewm ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([wtzhu]) writes: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6254 Summary: Multibyte character cannot be displayed in icewm menu Product: icewm-light Version: 1.2.9-2mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 Component: i18n AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My OS: Mandrake Linux 9.2 (FiveStar) on an i586 PC icewm version: icewm-1.2.13-0.3.1mdk.i586, icewm-light-1.2.13-0.3.1mdk.i586 locale: zh_CN Chinese characters cannot be displayed in icewm starting menu as well as right click pop-up menu. The problem may be due to font loading. I've tried to startx manually and step by step from the text console: # X (Enter. Everything is OK.) # export DISPLAY=0:0 (Enter. Everything is OK.) # /usr/X11R6/bin/icewm-session (Enter. Something wrong but not fatal.) While loading icewm, it gives lots of messages as the following: ... IceWM: Warning: Could not load font -*--16-*. IceWM: Warning: Could not load font -*--16-*. IceWM: Warning: Could not load font -*--16-*. IceWM: Warning: Could not load font -*--16-*. IceWM: Warning: Could not load font -*--16-*. IceWM: Warning: Could not load font -*--16-*. ... RPMS shipped in Mandrake Linux 9.0 (icewm-1.2.0-5mdk, icewm-light-1.2.0-5mdk) work well in FiveStar. RPMS shipped in Mandrake Linux 9.1 (icewm-1.2.6-1mdk, icewm-light-1.2.6-1mdk) may also work but modifications to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/preferences are needed. -- Florin http://www.mandrakesoft.com http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~florin/
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
Hey, I need a tracker for the files, anyone know of a good one??? Cheers, Manu
Re: [Cooker] Re: Kernel and Samba
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Norman Zhang wrote: Hi Buchan, My Samba box stalls after some usage, mapped drives disappear and users can't write or read from drives. The stalls happen randomly. I'm running 2.4.19-16mdksmp and Samba 2.2.7a-9.2mdk. May I ask is this a kernel bug or Samba bug? Does anyone know a fix for it? I checked the memory from BIOS, they didn't report any errors. BIOS memory check is (mostly) useless. Use memtest86 or similar. Sure I will test it with memtest86 and report back. I have been running LM9.0 with Samba on this box for 3/4 year now. The problem only arose in the last 2 months by random. I swapped brand new Crucial Micron ECC DDR266 SDRAM, but the problem still presists. BTW, the BIOS memory check is quite extensive (Intel claims to scan it block by block). It takes about 1 to 2 minutes for it to scan the memory. Not sure how this compares to memtest86. I guess I will wait after hours before I can run a memtest86. I ran memtest and found no error. Do you have other suggestions that I can further troubleshoot this? There are no cards plugged to the system. The system just runs software RAID. Thus it seems to be either XFS, md or samba bug. I would guess XFS. You may want to try a more recent kernel? (Thomas hinted that earlier kernels may have had some issues with XFS). But I think I'm running on XFS on the only production Winbind box I have at present (running 8.2 still!), with no problems. But the only box I have running XFS with an smp kernel runs 9.1. Maybe I could try upgrading samba to 2.2.8a-2mdk from your web server. I would prefer if you used on of the samba FTP mirrors, you can get setup easily at http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/?minor=1 (choose a Samba medium). Are there potential gotchas that I should watch out for? Not that I know of. In fact, I had reports that Squid authentication via winbind works with these but not the version you have. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n5x4rJK6UGDSBKcRAm7jAJ0eC55sftiAdids8ednjYV/RjrXVwCfRrzf hp3Z6hE87MS2P7yhqclPxIs= =NizD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] bootsplash kernel progress bar on non-mdk kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrey Borzenkov wrote: Apparently this progress bar is displayed not by kernel but by some external program? No, it seems just to work by placing show $num in /proc/splash where $num is a 16bit integer (see /sbin/splash.sh and the rc_splash function in /etc/rc.d/). On 2.4.23-pre8 it is too short while on 2.6 it extends over the right side - apparently it depends on relative kernel version number :) Does framebuffer work on 2.6? seriously, how it is computed? Oh, and anyone knows any attepmt to port bootsplash to 2.6? Even incomplete one - it could be taken for a start Probably better to ask on the bootsplash list? I am sure they are interested. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n55IrJK6UGDSBKcRAsSSAKDB1swhRO2AEEaeshiPDWPCM0ZwHACdFxFc JTMqwKO65aGqMT7YVPmsDsw= =q3ij -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] bootsplash kernel progress bar on non-mdk kernel
Apparently this progress bar is displayed not by kernel but by some external program? On 2.4.23-pre8 it is too short while on 2.6 it extends over the right side - apparently it depends on relative kernel version number :) seriously, how it is computed? Oh, and anyone knows any attepmt to port bootsplash to 2.6? Even incomplete one - it could be taken for a start it's probably different/incompatible project (forward port of linux progress patch http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10668150043r=1w=2 http://students.iiit.net/~prasad_s/lpp/ one note, thought IMO the fbdev support (at least in vanilla 2.6) seems pretty brocken, and the fbdev maintainer is sending from time to time 2Mb uncompressed patches for testing so i'm not sure how usefull would be bootsplash at this time best, svetljo -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Emmanuel Moll wrote: I'm using chrips' from http://norlug.org/~chipster/index.pxml?rpms Hmm, do these have the l10n files? These packages were made after the 1.5 packages I made for Club (9.1 and 9.2) with corresponding galeon (still in testing since I did them on Saturday) and epiphany packages were made publicly available on the MandrakeClub mirrors. Of course, they have already been in testing by Club members for over a week before that. I wonder if chipster also updated the relevant enigmail sources to actually get a working enigmail or not ... Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n6ATrJK6UGDSBKcRAmLGAJ40MMlaQom4Ogl5UuCK6+FLc1VZ4QCfY5Sg Nu0Gr0Jl2TWA39NSL3RvthU= =5bPp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] bootsplash kernel progress bar on non-mdk kernel
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrey Borzenkov wrote: Apparently this progress bar is displayed not by kernel but by some external program? No, it seems just to work by placing show $num in /proc/splash where $num is a 16bit integer (see /sbin/splash.sh and the rc_splash function in /etc/rc.d/). On 2.4.23-pre8 it is too short while on 2.6 it extends over the right side - apparently it depends on relative kernel version number :) Does framebuffer work on 2.6? AFAIK lots of fb things changed in 2.6, and nobody was yet willing to start porting bootsplash because of the heavy changes still taking place in fb. seriously, how it is computed? Oh, and anyone knows any attepmt to port bootsplash to 2.6? Even incomplete one - it could be taken for a start Probably better to ask on the bootsplash list? I am sure they are interested. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n55IrJK6UGDSBKcRAsSSAKDB1swhRO2AEEaeshiPDWPCM0ZwHACdFxFc JTMqwKO65aGqMT7YVPmsDsw= =q3ij -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms
I've built rpms of kernel-2.6-test8 (thanks to Andrey who released supermount for -test8). You may just as well jump to test9. I built against test8 only because test9 did not propagated to locale kernel.org mirror last weekend. patch applies to it even without any offset. Also I had very nasty problem with test8 - no traffic ever flowed over dialup PPP connection. test9 fixed it whatever it was. i think it was fixed in test8-bk1 or bk2 (i had the same problem on a lan conection, but only with http, ssh ftp worked) Oh and test8 does not boot with inintrd and devfs :) also fixed in bk1 i think, if you need a patch drop a line ( on second thought also available here : http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10665063731r=1w=2 ) best, svetljo PS. talking about test9? aren't you scared by the posts on lkml ? it might be that there a lot new testers, but i never seen that much oopses fail reports with earlier test kernels i would rather wait for a later bk snapshot -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms
any offset. Also I had very nasty problem with test8 - no traffic ever flowed over dialup PPP connection. test9 fixed it whatever it was. i think it was fixed in test8-bk1 or bk2 (i had the same problem on a lan conection, but only with http, ssh ftp worked) good, I was curious it it was just an accident. gone in test9 Oh and test8 does not boot with inintrd and devfs :) also fixed in bk1 i think, fixed in test9 anyway. [...] PS. talking about test9? aren't you scared by the posts on lkml ? it might be that there a lot new testers, but i never seen that much oopses fail reports with earlier test kernels not much more than usual :) I am afraid 2.6 final will not be in good shape when it appears (and rumors are it should be RSN). i would rather wait for a later bk snapshot if the question is what to release I'd rather used test9 given two mentioned problems. -andrey
[Cooker] [Bug 6252] [iptables] ip MASQUERADING does not work with Mdk 9.2 beta RC2
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6252 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 11:14 --- Ip masquerading works with 2.4.22-21mdk and Mandrake's iptables. Thanks -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Ip MASQUERADING does not seem to work with Mdk 9.2 beta RC2. I eventually got it to work by swapping 2.4.22-6mdk source with 2.4.22 from http://www.kernel.org and iptables with iptables-1.2.8 from http://netfilter.org/. Compiling Netfilter sites's iptables-1.2.8 with 2.4.22-6mdk does not resolve the problem.
Re: [Cooker] bootsplash kernel progress bar on non-mdk kernel
-Original Message- On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrey Borzenkov wrote: Apparently this progress bar is displayed not by kernel but by some external program? No, it seems just to work by placing show $num in /proc/splash where $num is a 16bit integer (see /sbin/splash.sh and the rc_splash function in /etc/rc.d/). sorry, but I can't have /proc/splash on a kernel without bootsplash patch. Still I have progress bar. Oh never mind, that's definitely not the first priority thing. just realized it could well be LILO progress bar as it appears before kernel output. Does it have one? In this case it smells like a bug. On 2.4.23-pre8 it is too short while on 2.6 it extends over the right side - apparently it depends on relative kernel version number :) Does framebuffer work on 2.6? yes. As has been mentioned on lkml many times - you can't compile several FB drivers in your kernel. Select one and it will work. It has always been working here since I started using 2.5. I guess I am useing vesa framebuffer driver, have to check @home. For other drivers YMMV as usual. Sure it is PITA for distributions kernels. I hoped new roofs/initramfs would allow dynamic loading of framebuffer drivers during boot but apparently it is initialized too late. I vaguelly remember someone mentioned on lkml possibility to load fb driver after system boots - i.e. out of initrd but I never had time to recompile kernel just to test it. Besides it is a bit too late, you still have some time window with plain text output. -andrey
Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?
Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 09:48:37 Uhr MET, schrieb Brook Humphrey: [wxPythonGTK test package] it works fine with abc (another bittorent gui). I don't know that one, is it worth packaging it? It did not work with audacity as your version of wxgtk is older than what audacity wants. Audacity wants 2.5 and you are using 2.4 but as stated abc works like it ever did with it. It's not supposed to work, you're mixing this up with the wxGTK package. wxPythonGTK comes with it's own version of the wxGTK library in a private directory location, so it is only usable by wxPythonGTK and not by other wxGTK apps. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] ScalablePBS-1.0.1-1mdk
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 15:17, Erwan Velu wrote: snip Erwan Velu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.0.1-5mdk - 1.0.1p0 release - Removing patch11 - Using right versioning :) snip -%define version 2.3.12 +%define version 1.0.1 snip I would suggest using an epoch increment if you are going to decrement the version. At present it will not upgrade installed packages. Jaco
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xterm-179-2mdk
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 15:31, Thierry Vignaud wrote: snip %changelog +* Wed Oct 29 2003 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 179-2mdk +- patch 3: fix pasting when cursor is on scrollbar (backported from 181) + +* Wed Oct 29 2003 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 179-2mdk + * Wed Jul 02 2003 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 179-1mdk - new release Umm, seems an extra changelog date slipped in there somehow. O, well, no harm done. Jaco
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
Emmanuel Moll wrote: I'm using chrips' from http://norlug.org/~chipster/index.pxml?rpms Manu I have noticed the norlug mozilla-1.5-1 bombs reliably on 9.2 when mail is called from the browser status bar. I'd better let chipster know :-).
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Coe wrote: Emmanuel Moll wrote: I'm using chrips' from http://norlug.org/~chipster/index.pxml?rpms Manu I have noticed the norlug mozilla-1.5-1 bombs reliably on 9.2 when mail is called from the browser status bar. I'd better let chipster know :-). Works fine in 1.5-0.92mdk: http://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.2/i586/ Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n7nYrJK6UGDSBKcRAjStAJ9uW8tquP1Cwg14oqGQ/YNeDAj8LgCgzJId lHPbhCKXDu6VYtPrhS9xh6o= =HOv4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Install description need to be update
During 9.2 install, in package section, language French: (I translate from french to english) Internet: Some tools to send and read mail (pine, mutt) [...] Isn't time to remove pine from example ??? Except you plan to take pine from plf and put it back into main ;) -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Install description need to be update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olivier Thauvin wrote: During 9.2 install, in package section, language French: (I translate from french to english) Internet: Some tools to send and read mail (pine, mutt) [...] Isn't time to remove pine from example ??? Except you plan to take pine from plf and put it back into main ;) Or allow network installation to install files direcltly from other urpmi media (like PLF)? ;-) - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n75zrJK6UGDSBKcRAlnDAKDCx01YdrHBeLcJ32a0zEkFQo0w5ACgx+/G VfCZuBM4SUKCCwrkX1bjsTY= =ekFL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- there are problems in some MCC tools when embedded, they do not
fit in parent window (apparently due to different size of translated
strings) but no scrollbars are available so some controls (buttons
et al) cannot be reached. More or less the same as always, it
happens in every release. I can send screenshots if anyone is
interested.
i would be more interested in patches against share/po/ru.po :-)
the fix is probably to go for using WrappedLabel instead of Label and
feed them with formatAlaTeX() everywhere for better layout.
The overall look is really more polished and professional. MCC looks
very nice, do I understand right that draksec now takes care of
grsecurity settings? Some options smell like it. Translations were
also mostly good so far.
draksec is just a gui wrapper for msec.
if msec supports it, draksec'll
2all - what do you think of translating contributors list? I mean,
using native names in native locale. I do not know how many
non-ISO8859-1 contributors are there though ...
that would be nice :-)
pablo, maybe should we import them in drakconf po ?
it's not hard: the following perl script converts CREDITS from
mandrake-release into a dumb perl file such as :
=
{
N(contributor1) = N(description1),
N(contributor2) = N(description2),
(...)
}
=
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use MDK::Common;
output(contributors.pl,
join(\n,
qq(#/usr/bin/perl
use lib qw(/usr/lib/libDrakX);
use common;
{
),
(map {
my ($contributor, $descr) = split(', ', $_, 2);
qq(\tN($contributor) = N(qq($descr)),);
} cat_(glob(/usr/share/doc/mandrake-release-*/CREDITS))),
}
)
);
and then we would just have to list it in
soft/control-center/po/POTFILES.in:
Index: po/POTFILES.in
===
RCS file: /cooker/soft/control-center/po/POTFILES.in,v
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -p -r1.11 POTFILES.in
--- po/POTFILES.in 26 Aug 2002 08:57:44 - 1.11
+++ po/POTFILES.in 29 Oct 2003 13:33:13 -
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
control-center
clock.pl
+contributors.pl
menus_launcher.pl
print_launcher.pl
gecko.pm
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xterm-179-2mdk
Jaco Greeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: %changelog +* Wed Oct 29 2003 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 179-2mdk +- patch 3: fix pasting when cursor is on scrollbar (backported from 181) + +* Wed Oct 29 2003 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 179-2mdk + * Wed Jul 02 2003 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 179-1mdk - new release Umm, seems an extra changelog date slipped in there somehow. O, well, no harm done. grr :-(
[Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
Old subject didn't get any attention, so I'm posting with this one which will surely get some. While I was trying to build updated isos i found in misc/doc/download a line kernel-source exclude. What ? this can't be true. I search trough rpms, rpms2 and rpms3 and it isn't there. I check on fr2.rpmfind.net and its there. Hm strange, lets see what else is missing. I copy all the files from my rpms dirs to one directory and compare contents of that dir to fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/ What the f*** ? A LOOT of differences. It seems that I'm missing a lot of packages. My first thought was that these missing packages were transferred to contrib. Lets check no not there. Wait what's that. I have gcc-cpp_f-0.0.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm but on remote ftp there isn't one. I start to look at the differences and I notice a couple of odd things libsane-hpoj1-0.90-9mdk.i586.rpm that i have is newer that on mirror (on mirror libsane-hpoj1-0.90-8mdk), mandrake_doc-en-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm that I have is older than on the mirror (mirror mandrake_doc-en-9.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm ) This has to me mirrors fault? I check with mandrakeclub mirror and its the same thing. What happened ??? I have been told recently not to bitch/complain but to be a little more diplomatic when posting here. So here it is, I'm not bitching but asking nicely. I can understand that some packages like powermanga which isn't important (although very nice game) couldn't be fitted on the first 3 cds but why wasn't it transferred to contrib. And what's with the different versions ? I can understand that due to the last minute changes a newer package can be included in the download edition, but on mirrors a few packets are newer then in download !? So what should I do now ? I can download the missing packages from mirror but what shall I do with the packages which have different versions ?
Re: [Cooker] Install description need to be update
Olivier Thauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Internet: Some tools to send and read mail (pine, mutt) [...] Isn't time to remove pine from example ??? Except you plan to take pine from plf and put it back into main ;) just fixed in cvs thanks.
Re: [Cooker] Install description need to be update
Am 29. Oktober 2003 um 15:19:48 +0200 schrieb Buchan Milne: Or allow network installation to install files direcltly from other urpmi media (like PLF)? ;-) Yes! Please. I would like this. :-) But it should work with AutoInstall also. Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM-NETZ Neue Medien, Berlin http://www.im-netz.de/ WWW von Frauen für Frauen, Hamburghttp://www.w4w.net/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Helsinki http://www.sappho.net/
Re: [Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Galileo wrote: Old subject didn't get any attention, so I'm posting with this one which will surely get some. And it had nothing to do with the subject, but the fact that it was still quite a conflict-generating post. While I was trying to build updated isos i found in misc/doc/download a line kernel-source exclude. What ? this can't be true. It is true, the download edition ISOs didn't have space for kernel source. Yes, misc/doc applies *only* to ISO images, not to the mirrors. I search trough rpms, rpms2 and rpms3 and it isn't there. http://mandrake.contactel.cz/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-10mdk.i586.rpm I check on fr2.rpmfind.net and its there. Hm strange, lets see what else is missing. Maybe fr2.rpmfind.net isn't in sync. I copy all the files from my rpms dirs to one directory and compare contents of that dir to fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/ What the f*** ? Yes, that's a nice way to encourage us to answer your questions when you don't even check official mirrors (or known-good ones). A LOOT of differences. It seems that I'm missing a lot of packages. My first thought was that these missing packages were transferred to contrib. Lets check no not there. Wait what's that. I have gcc-cpp_f-0.0.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm but on remote ftp there isn't one. No idea what gcc-cpp_f is, never seen it before. I start to look at the differences and I notice a couple of odd things libsane-hpoj1-0.90-9mdk.i586.rpm that i have is newer that on mirror (on mirror libsane-hpoj1-0.90-8mdk), What does the changelog on -9mdk say? mandrake_doc-en-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm that I have is older than on the mirror (mirror mandrake_doc-en-9.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm ) Not sure about this. Maybe you could politely ask the maintainer about the changes reflected in the changelog (which you can see easily if you subscribe to the changelog list. This has to me mirrors fault? I check with mandrakeclub mirror and its the same thing. What happened ??? I have been told recently not to bitch/complain but to be a little more diplomatic when posting here. So here it is, I'm not bitching but asking nicely. Riight, read the end of your previous post, really diplomatic in comparison to all the other threads. I can understand that some packages like powermanga which isn't important (although very nice game) couldn't be fitted on the first 3 cds but why wasn't it transferred to contrib. Because contrib isn't main, main isn't contrib. That has nothing to do with the fact that main is over 200MB larger than the space available on 3 CDs. And what's with the different versions ? I can understand that due to the last minute changes a newer package can be included in the download edition, but on mirrors a few packets are newer then in download !? So what should I do now ? I can download the missing packages from mirror but what shall I do with the packages which have different versions ? Read the changelog to see if it's anything that affects you. I don't see why I need to read your posts if you continue like this, so don't expect an answer if you stick to your current style (as it doesn't seem you are motivating anyone else to answer your posts either). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n8rrrJK6UGDSBKcRAivSAJ9Sve6/iltoMaJ60uEu6lLseAGCfgCgjFNU 59TfGrzhyxgpheaCYePCZsw= =TvZq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Suggestion: move 9.2 to 9.2b or 9.2.1 and CHANGE the kernel!
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) Since many of us are having BIG problem with the 9.2 tree on the mirror (expecially for the LG-bug), imho it would be safe to REMOVE the actual 9.2 and upload a new 9.2b or similar, with the fixed kernel (and the correct kde packages and so on...). What do you think about it? Thanks, Claudio
Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
[thierry, would you mind Cc to me directly?] - there are problems in some MCC tools when embedded, they do not fit in parent window (apparently due to different size of translated strings) but no scrollbars are available so some controls (buttons et al) cannot be reached. More or less the same as always, it happens in every release. I can send screenshots if anyone is interested. i would be more interested in patches against share/po/ru.po :-) sure but as I said tranlsations look mostly right. Russian does have longer words than English in average so it is generic problem that must be addressed - you cannot assume fixed size dialog that suits everybody. Is it possible to compute parent window size based on child size? This probably needs to be done once on init for max size as otherweise window starts flickering. the fix is probably to go for using WrappedLabel instead of Label and feed them with formatAlaTeX() everywhere for better layout. ehh ... could you translate it for us mere mortals? :) -andrey
Re: [Cooker] Install description need to be update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nora Etukudo wrote: Am 29. Oktober 2003 um 15:19:48 +0200 schrieb Buchan Milne: Or allow network installation to install files direcltly from other urpmi media (like PLF)? ;-) Yes! Please. I would like this. :-) But it should work with AutoInstall also. Of course, since you may want to be able to have some internal applications installed during installation (and some other features related to unattended package installation could still be nice). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n8xRrJK6UGDSBKcRApSoAJ0SLvUytfAsHE7bvDczCWIcfsAgSgCgkeKk Hr92UPXz+xjWWkGsg1ktefA= =hfUV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
Buchan Milne wrote: David Coe wrote: Emmanuel Moll wrote: I'm using chrips' from http://norlug.org/~chipster/index.pxml?rpms Manu I have noticed the norlug mozilla-1.5-1 bombs reliably on 9.2 when mail is called from the browser status bar. I'd better let chipster know :-). Works fine in 1.5-0.92mdk: http://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.2/i586/ Regards, Buchan So it does. I'd wondered where the ranger stuff had gone :-). Many thanks!
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk
Le mar 28/10/2003 à 17:09, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:06:28 -0500, magic wrote:
Hey all,
I was just wondering if there was any chance of having the jabberd
quickstart included in the jabber rpm (or possibly a seperate one)?
http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/quickstart/
Hmm, I'm not sure this one is needed nor useful for our own package..
I've got a request for jabber package : provide support for logrotate.
Indeed I was unable to start my local jabber server until I understand
that the problem's comes from /var/log/jabber/record.log and
/var/log/jabber/error.log . error.log grow, and grow and then at the end
jabber doesn't want to start as error.log was too big ( more than 7Mo,
maybe kopete related ... ). This limitation comes from xdb component.
So adding a script in /etc/logrotate.d could did the trick and allow to
don't have a jabber server stopping running at all ( this is limit a DoS
against jabber ).
weekly rotations should be enough with 4 copies for record.log, and
rotation when filesize exceed 1M should be enough for error.log :
/var/log/jabber/record.log {
monthly
rotate 4
notifempty
missingok
}
/var/log/jabber/error.log {
size=1M
rotate 4
notifempty
missingok
}
---
Laissons les jolies femmes aux hommes sans imagination. Marcel Proust
(1871-1922).
Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed
On Wednesday 29 Oct 2003 07:08, Chris Picton wrote: I used the program 'serel' from http://www.fastboot.org for a while during the 9.1 - 9.2 cooker phase, and had no problems with it. Bootup was faster. The program has not been updated in a while, but seems to be fairly complete as it stands. I had to manually add a few service dependancies (like harddrake and dm), as it is currently tuned for redhat systems. I did some testing myself, working on something similar, though I still don't know what people prefer: that I hack init, or replace /etc/rc.d/rc by a binary... http://www.stack.nl/~josh/Mandrake Jos
Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed
Jos wrote: I did some testing myself, working on something similar, though I still don't know what people prefer: that I hack init, or replace /etc/rc.d/rc by a binary... Is the problem that the necessary initializations take too long, or that they take too long when run serially under a single thread ?
NTP client in clock.pl [Was: Re: [Cooker] Some wishes for Mandrake 10.0...]
Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan Ciger wanted us to know: computers. Setting up NTP server there is : a) overkill Maybe, for a dialup, I'll give you that. b) quite tricky if you do not know what you are doing I think someone should add to a wiki somewhere: urpmi ntp echo server time.ucla.edu prefer /etc/ntp.conf echo time.ucla.edu /etc/ntp/step-tickers service ntpd restart It will automatically be configured to start when the rpm is installed. Ok, i just finished putting ntp client feature in mcc (clock.pl). It's aimed to sync with a ntp server in local network but can be used for external ntp servers. Replace /usr/sbin/clock.pl by the one at http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~daouda/misc/clock.pl FeedbacksBugReports are welcome.
Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [thierry, would you mind Cc to me directly?] no. [ well, if i remember ] - there are problems in some MCC tools when embedded, they do not fit in parent window (apparently due to different size of translated strings) but no scrollbars are available so some controls (buttons et al) cannot be reached. More or less the same as always, it happens in every release. I can send screenshots if anyone is interested. i would be more interested in patches against share/po/ru.po :-) sure but as I said tranlsations look mostly right. Russian does have longer words than English in average so it is generic problem that must be addressed - you cannot assume fixed size dialog that suits everybody. Is it possible to compute parent window size based on child size? problem is that they're issues because mcc must fit into 800x600 This probably needs to be done once on init for max size as otherweise window starts flickering. the fix is probably to go for using WrappedLabel instead of Label and feed them with formatAlaTeX() everywhere for better layout. ehh ... could you translate it for us mere mortals? :) some labels are filled with sized texts and are not marked as wrapp-able. we should use wrapped labels were needed. also, some labels look bad with some translations due to wrapping issues vs manual return caracters. so i suggest to separate paragraphs by two lines like in LaTeX and let formatAlaTeX() from MDK::Common do the jobs for us. filling with paragraphs + auto-wrapping should clear most l10n visual bugs.
[Cooker] [Bug 5828] [evolution] cannot use openldap server within evo
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5828 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 11:43 --- Ok, I'm seeing some stranges stuff when connection to openldap 2.1.x server (I haven't tried 2.0.x server). Which version of openldap server are you using ? Did you authorized TLS connection on it ? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Hi again, I was trying to set up an openldap connection for personal addressbook in evo, but now way. If I use anonymous evo crashes, if I use any auth, I wont be asked for a password and the addressbook does not show any entries. I know that it worked once with an older version of evo. Connecting to the ldap server with Outlook or Outlook Express or any other ldap browser works nice. Regards Andy
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: move 9.2 to 9.2b or 9.2.1 and CHANGE the kernel!
Claudio wrote: Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) Since many of us are having BIG problem with the 9.2 tree on the mirror (expecially for the LG-bug), imho it would be safe to REMOVE the actual 9.2 and upload a new 9.2b or similar, with the fixed kernel (and the correct kde packages and so on...). What do you think about it? Thanks, Claudio What you suggest has been announced ages ago on the errata page... Moreover, there is nothing to remove since it has not been distributed to the public and is not available on server (except for leaked versions). Eric
Re: NTP client in clock.pl [Was: Re: [Cooker] Some wishes for Mandrake 10.0...]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daouda LO wrote: Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan Ciger wanted us to know: computers. Setting up NTP server there is : a) overkill Maybe, for a dialup, I'll give you that. b) quite tricky if you do not know what you are doing I think someone should add to a wiki somewhere: urpmi ntp echo server time.ucla.edu prefer /etc/ntp.conf echo time.ucla.edu /etc/ntp/step-tickers service ntpd restart It will automatically be configured to start when the rpm is installed. Ok, i just finished putting ntp client feature in mcc (clock.pl). It's aimed to sync with a ntp server in local network but can be used for external ntp servers. Replace /usr/sbin/clock.pl by the one at http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~daouda/misc/clock.pl FeedbacksBugReports are welcome. Well, in case you missed the NTP threads/bugs from about 2 months ago, the default configuration (assuming users have full access to outside NTP servers) should have 3 entries for 'pool.ntp.org' (IIRC, check in bugzilla), since they have round-robin DNS, so ntpd should get 3 different servers: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ host pool.ntp.org pool.ntp.org has address 217.114.97.97 pool.ntp.org has address 217.157.1.202 pool.ntp.org has address 65.211.109.11 pool.ntp.org has address 129.240.64.3 pool.ntp.org has address 130.60.73.143 pool.ntp.org has address 130.94.201.36 pool.ntp.org has address 193.170.141.4 pool.ntp.org has address 204.17.42.199 pool.ntp.org has address 206.168.231.98 pool.ntp.org has address 209.162.205.202 pool.ntp.org has address 212.204.230.141 pool.ntp.org has address 212.242.64.180 pool.ntp.org has address 213.15.3.1 pool.ntp.org has address 213.134.172.184 pool.ntp.org has address 216.27.185.42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ host pool.ntp.org pool.ntp.org has address 216.27.185.42 pool.ntp.org has address 217.114.97.97 pool.ntp.org has address 217.157.1.202 pool.ntp.org has address 65.211.109.11 pool.ntp.org has address 129.240.64.3 pool.ntp.org has address 130.60.73.143 pool.ntp.org has address 130.94.201.36 pool.ntp.org has address 193.170.141.4 pool.ntp.org has address 204.17.42.199 pool.ntp.org has address 206.168.231.98 pool.ntp.org has address 209.162.205.202 pool.ntp.org has address 212.204.230.141 pool.ntp.org has address 212.242.64.180 pool.ntp.org has address 213.15.3.1 pool.ntp.org has address 213.134.172.184 Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n+W8rJK6UGDSBKcRAu0KAJ0fec8tXHbh1Zy3bxf0PgZpyU+IZwCglP3T vB3/osOltwR2PLjBa041LXY= =cCrO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] [THOUGHTS] update patch management ( part 1 )
Since last week I'm thinking about what could be done in order to improve mdk for server and big LAN. I see this week that one problem comes with applying patch. just after mdk release having more than 50Mb of updates The problems with actuals updates is that you have to provide the entire rpm when just a .so or an binary file is concerned ( non need to reinstall all png/doc/... files and others unconcerned files ). Another problem is that updates can't be easily reversed ( you have to do it by hand with an rpm -Uvh --oldpackage package.rpm, with package.rpm coming from CD or others source ). - cancel/reverse an update : This should be done via urpmi. A special switch ( --downgrade ) should allow urpmi to install packages (and it's dependencies ) by ignoring packages that you could find in updates sources ( there are mark as update in urpmi.cfg ). this could be extended in order to downgrade others packages ( cooker - stable ), but this should be avoid, and this would imply bigger modification ton urpmi code. With this solution, when --downgrade switch is used, urpmi just ignore sources defined as updates. urpmi can ignore source where ignore keyword is provide in source config, so this is not a so big deal. - only provide patched files ( decrease updates size ) : When you just need to provide one file in order to do the updates ( because the updates doesn't change fonction behavior or function aliasing doesn't change ), provide the entire package is ... useless. + The main issue is that rpm doesn't allow partial upgrade. This should be fixed by rpm team or else we have to find another way. + If you provide a virtual package ( for example MDKSA2003096-apache2-2.0.47-8mdk.i586.rpm ) and use the --replacefiles rpm switch, you can solve partially the problem ). BUT, how don you easily know that you apply the updates ? if you check directly apache2 rpm version, you will see nothing as the version doesn't change. The solution could be to have the ability to change the version of an installed package without installing a package ( directly in rpm database ). Or else you no longer rely on original rpm version but instead look for mdksa prefixed packages. pre-install script should backup previous files in a special directory in order to allow downgrade, let us revert the update. Note : as rpm version doesn't change, the --downgrade switch or urpmi can't be used, instead we should force package re-installation. If rpm version can be artificially changed, then using urpmi --downgrade will be enough. Partial updates should always be applied to original packages. It means that if another updates of apache2 comes, concerning a different file, this updates should provides the first one and so on ( i.e like SP2 in windows world that includes also SP1 updates ) - GUI : MandrakeUpdate MandrakeUpdate should be modify in order to deal with this an provide an easy way to revert back an upgrade, etc ... - economy/financial part : + in order to make Club membership and box version more attractive, partial updates should be provides only to these persons. So the tools allowing to manage this, or else the packages providing these updates should be accessible only to registered person ( if you come from Club, use your club access, if you're using box version, depending of your box level you can have a free registration to club or a special discount ). For example you buy discovery, you have a free registration to Standard Level of MandrakeClub or 50% discount ( need to provide box serial or return a special coupon ). If you buy Powerpack, you have free registration to Standard level or else 50% discount to Silver Level. and so on ... + this will save mdk ftp site bandwitch Note : A really interesting things should be to develop a tool allowing to manage update in a network containing severals computers, etc ... ( this will be part 2 ). --- Tu n'aurais pas tourne dans Doom, toi ?
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: move 9.2 to 9.2b or 9.2.1 and CHANGE the kernel!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Fernandez wrote: Claudio wrote: Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) Since many of us are having BIG problem with the 9.2 tree on the mirror (expecially for the LG-bug), imho it would be safe to REMOVE the actual 9.2 and upload a new 9.2b or similar, with the fixed kernel (and the correct kde packages and so on...). What do you think about it? Thanks, Claudio What you suggest has been announced ages ago on the errata page... Moreover, there is nothing to remove since it has not been distributed to the public and is not available on server (except for leaked versions). And the FTP tree, with (I assume) offending kernels in the floppy images and the modules for said kernel in the stage2's on the mirrors. http://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake/9.2/i586/images/ Parent Directory - MD5SUM 23-Sep-2003 12:03 383 alternatives/ 23-Sep-2003 12:03- blank.img 23-Sep-2003 12:03 1.4M cdrom-changedisk.img23-Sep-2003 12:03 1.4M cdrom.img 23-Sep-2003 12:03 1.4M hd.img 23-Sep-2003 12:03 1.4M hdcdrom_usb.img 23-Sep-2003 12:03 1.4M memtest-x86.bin 10-Sep-2002 12:59 79K network.img 23-Sep-2003 12:03 1.4M network_gigabit_usb.img 23-Sep-2003 12:03 1.4M pcmcia.img 23-Sep-2003 12:03 1.4M Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n+Y8rJK6UGDSBKcRAoW0AKC8cL1O+ZGCaolAAtdwyyT0VDhFRwCfc99w vWNrzdWX9LK7krQoIAOMbpw= =F6aC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] [Bug 6231] [GConf] gnucash crashes with new gconf
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 12:01 --- Thanks, fc. Works on cooker (my mirror didn't have it yet for stable). -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: After updating to GConf-1.0.9-12mdk.i586 GConf2-2.4.0.1-2mdk.i586 libGConf1-1.0.9-12mdk.i586 libGConf2_4-2.4.0.1-2mdk.i586 libGConf2_4-devel-2.4.0.1-2mdk.i586 gnucash no longer starts, it complains that gtkhtml cannot connect to gconfd. One maybe has to open a report to trigger this? My gnucash opens some reports upon start. After downgrading to previous (9.2) GConf stuff and relogin, gnucash works again.
[Cooker] Re: NTP client in clock.pl
Daouda LO [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, i just finished putting ntp client feature in mcc (clock.pl). It's aimed to sync with a ntp server in local network but can be used for external ntp servers. Replace /usr/sbin/clock.pl by the one at http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~daouda/misc/clock.pl why not just share the installer code
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: move 9.2 to 9.2b or 9.2.1 and CHANGE the kernel!
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 4:02 pm, Eric Fernandez wrote: Claudio wrote: Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) Since many of us are having BIG problem with the 9.2 tree on the mirror (expecially for the LG-bug), imho it would be safe to REMOVE the actual 9.2 and upload a new 9.2b or similar, with the fixed kernel (and the correct kde packages and so on...). What do you think about it? Thanks, Claudio What you suggest has been announced ages ago on the errata page... Moreover, there is nothing to remove since it has not been distributed to the public and is not available on server (except for leaked versions). ^^^ WTH does that mean How can a public ftp server contain leaked version of Mandrake 9.2? Eric -- John Allen, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeClub Silver Member. http://allentech.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Re: NTP client in clock.pl
Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daouda LO [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, i just finished putting ntp client feature in mcc (clock.pl). It's aimed to sync with a ntp server in local network but can be used for external ntp servers. Replace /usr/sbin/clock.pl by the one at http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~daouda/misc/clock.pl why not just share the installer code Why not just check the source before posting
[Cooker] [Bug 5372] [pcmcia-cs] pcmcia service hangup
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5372 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 13:24 --- I also have this problem with my HP/Compaq nx9005. I have tested both 9.1 and 9.2rc2. I thought the bug had been erased in 9.2rc2 but it wasn't. The PCMCIA unit works fine under Slackware 9.1 and Knoppix. It works fine if I disable the pcmcia service but this is not good at all because I have an wireless adapter to my computer and a wireless network at home. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Hi, I have recently installed mdk9.2rc1 on the laptop Compaq Presario 2100. The install was done without problems but on the startup the system just hangs on te Starting PCMCIA services. I have tried to disable the service by booting in single user mode, however in single user mode the keyboard simply doesn't work. I was able to resolve by bootting from the install cd and starting the install stage(on rescue keyboard didn't worked) and then switching to the console and mount the old root and disable pcmcia from the startup. The system booted fine without the pcmcia services. Note: I don't have any PCMCIA card on the sockets. Thanks
Re[2]: [Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
BM And it had nothing to do with the subject, but the fact that it was BM still quite a conflict-generating post. You replied within 30 minutes. A rest my case :) BM Yes, misc/doc applies *only* to ISO images, not to the mirrors. Well that is so obvious that there is no need to point that out. BM Maybe fr2.rpmfind.net isn't in sync. Actually it is. If you read my post carefully you will notice that I compared my findings with mandrakeclub download section and that my first thought was that fr2.rpmfind is out of sinc. BM Yes, that's a nice way to encourage us to answer your questions when you BM don't even check official mirrors (or known-good ones). So http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/KByName.html isn't an official mirror. What can be more official than mandrakeclub. And please don't put my words out of context. The proper way is to read the hole post than make up your mind. I was truing to show step by step what i did so I would avoid answering to a lot of questions of type did you did this or that. when you have a problem you have to explain it in detail so that was what I did. BM No idea what gcc-cpp_f is, never seen it before. DESCRIPTION:Virtual provides of gcc-cpp via gcc-cpp2.96 Everyone that that downloaded the first iso has it. BM Not sure about this. Maybe you could politely ask the maintainer about BM the changes reflected in the changelog (which you can see easily if you BM subscribe to the changelog list. It doesn't matter what has changed. What matters is that there is a difference between my rpms (in rpms rpms2 rpms3 ) and mirrors. A was under impression that RPMS dir on mirror holds everything that I get on my 3 cds. I will check this with 9.1 since I have those cd on me. The real problem here is that when someone wonts to play powermanga (or needs whatever package that is missing) he will most probably check rpmfind.net and he will realize the same thing that I did. So what should he/me do now ? Add a mirror as another repository ? 99.9 % of people here will agree that this is just plain stupid. BM Riight, read the end of your previous post, really diplomatic in BM comparison to all the other threads. It was 1:20 AM, I was pretty frustrated while trying to figure who the hell cares. I'm an unsatisfied customer, it doesn't mater the tone of my voice. What matters is that Mandrakesoft should investigate every complain no matter how stupid or crude it may seem. I'm trying to help here people. to make some things right. I'm just plain crazy or other people here think that this is unprofessional ? This leaves a bad picture. If I or my company did something like this we would be out of business. Should I take this to the official support chanel ? Should I buy support and send this directly to responsible people. Developers here should care about this. We all want to make a better distribution. End don't give me that attitude thing as I no longer care. Every time the new distribution is released it has it rough edges but this one... I can understand mistakes made in development but mistakes like this are made because someone didn't pay attention. Question to the person who made iso-s ? Did you know this ? How did it come to this ? Please explain to me how did you do it ? Is this a problem in communication between admins in MandrakeSoft like with updates that are announced but show up 4 days later. If you don't want to replay to this message because you think I'm to rude then don't. But you should investigate this if you have any power within mandrake. People lets make things more professional. Things like this do matter. If you think that what I'm talking about isn't important just send an empty reply saying nobody cares. We don't care about this whatever and I will stop posting on this subject. BM Because contrib isn't main, main isn't contrib. That has nothing to do BM with the fact that main is over 200MB larger than the space available on BM 3 CDs. So should we make another Contrib. Or should we just let these 200mb of packages stay in total oblivion ? BM Read the changelog to see if it's anything that affects you. ? Do you even understand what I'm talking about. If it doesn't affect me maybe it affects other people. BM I don't see why I need to read your posts if you continue like this, so BM don't expect an answer if you stick to your current style (as it doesn't BM seem you are motivating anyone else to answer your posts either). Good. Then I will know that I'm left on my own and that I have to make my own modifications, build my own isos, and my own updates. And at the end if it turns up that it is to much for me I will try some other distribution. i haven't installed anything else except mandrake in the last few years (since RH 6.2) but maybe its time to start now.
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
David Coe wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: David Coe wrote: Emmanuel Moll wrote: I'm using chrips' from http://norlug.org/~chipster/index.pxml?rpms Manu I have noticed the norlug mozilla-1.5-1 bombs reliably on 9.2 when mail is called from the browser status bar. I'd better let chipster know :-). Works fine in 1.5-0.92mdk: http://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.2/i586/ Regards, Buchan So it does. I'd wondered where the ranger stuff had gone :-). Many thanks! Oops .. I spoke too soon :-(. Mozilla 1.5-0.92mdk also bombs as above; not every time, but often enough to discourage accessing it via the mail button on the browser status bar. I'll try one of the Xft-enabled binary tar bundles and check the bugzilla reports. Best wishes David
Re: NTP client in clock.pl [Was: Re: [Cooker] Some wishes for Mandrake 10.0...]
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 3:13 pm, Daouda LO wrote: FeedbacksBugReports are welcome. Well the dropdown won't stay down if you left the mouse button go. Other than that it picked up my (existing) local ntp server setting just fine. -- John Allen, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeClub Silver Member. http://allentech.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Re: NTP client in clock.pl
Daouda LO [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, i just finished putting ntp client feature in mcc (clock.pl). It's aimed to sync with a ntp server in local network but can be used for external ntp servers. Replace /usr/sbin/clock.pl by the one at http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~daouda/misc/clock.pl why not just share the installer code Why not just check the source before posting i did: why not share most code from install_steps_interactive::configureTimezone()
Re: NTP client in clock.pl [Was: Re: [Cooker] Some wishes for Mandrake 10.0...]
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:07:25PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Well, in case you missed the NTP threads/bugs from about 2 months ago, the default configuration (assuming users have full access to outside NTP servers) should have 3 entries for 'pool.ntp.org' (IIRC, check in bugzilla), since they have round-robin DNS, so ntpd should get 3 different servers: the problem is that you cannot use dns names for restrictions in ntpd.conf, so we would have to putt all ip addresses for pool.ntp.org in there. L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: move 9.2 to 9.2b or 9.2.1 and CHANGE the kernel!
John Allen wrote: WTH does that mean How can a public ftp server contain leaked version of Mandrake 9.2? I correct myself : leaked bittorrent links (available to non-members). Eric
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
Francisco Alcaraz ha scritto: Yes I hope this, but not idea about when; I have downloaded the new kernel (not problematic lg drivers, but I suppose it is bugless tan the old one). Well, it has (at least) one less feature: packet writing capability has been omitted :-( Bye -- - Yo también quiero una Europa libre de Patentes de Software - - I want a Software Patents Free Europe too! And you? - --- EuropeSwPatentFree - http://EuropeSwPatentFree.hispalinux.es pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] [Bug 6253] [kdebase] Cannot set konqueror to double click mode.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6253 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||DUPLICATE --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 14:02 --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 982 *** -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Fresh install of mandrake 9.2. Set konqueror's view mode to detailed list view. Notice it is in single click mode. I want to change that. I go to kde control center, peripherals, mouse. bug #1) The radio button says double click, but konqueror is in single click mode. bug #2) I try to select single click, then again double. konqueror is still in single click mode. I'm surprised this has not been fixed since mandrake 9.1. Is there a particular reason?
Re: Re[2]: [Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
BM And it had nothing to do with the subject, but the fact that it was BM still quite a conflict-generating post. You replied within 30 minutes. A rest my case :) BM Yes, misc/doc applies *only* to ISO images, not to the mirrors. Well that is so obvious that there is no need to point that out. BM Maybe fr2.rpmfind.net isn't in sync. Actually it is. If you read my post carefully you will notice that I compared my findings with mandrakeclub download section and that my first thought was that fr2.rpmfind is out of sinc. BM Yes, that's a nice way to encourage us to answer your questions when you BM don't even check official mirrors (or known-good ones). So http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/KByName.ht ml isn't an official mirror. What can be more official than mandrakeclub. And please don't put my words out of context. The proper way is to read the hole post than make up your mind. I was truing to show step by step what i did so I would avoid answering to a lot of questions of type did you did this or that. when you have a problem you have to explain it in detail so that was what I did. BM No idea what gcc-cpp_f is, never seen it before. DESCRIPTION:Virtual provides of gcc-cpp via gcc-cpp2.96 Everyone that that downloaded the first iso has it. BM Not sure about this. Maybe you could politely ask the maintainer about BM the changes reflected in the changelog (which you can see easily if you BM subscribe to the changelog list. It doesn't matter what has changed. What matters is that there is a difference between my rpms (in rpms rpms2 rpms3 ) and mirrors. A was under impression that RPMS dir on mirror holds everything that I get on my 3 cds. I will check this with 9.1 since I have those cd on me. Not always. I think Buchan has the right idea, actually. The real problem here is that when someone wonts to play powermanga (or needs whatever package that is missing) he will most probably check rpmfind.net and he will realize the same thing that I did. So what should he/me do now ? Add a mirror as another repository ? 99.9 % of people here will agree that this is just plain stupid. What's stupid? If I don't have the latest, I'm more than willing to add a mirror so that I have them. BM Riight, read the end of your previous post, really diplomatic in BM comparison to all the other threads. It was 1:20 AM, I was pretty frustrated while trying to figure who the hell cares. I'm an unsatisfied customer, it doesn't mater the tone of my voice. What matters is that Mandrakesoft should investigate every complain no matter how stupid or crude it may seem. I'm trying to help here people. to make some things right. I'm just plain crazy or other people here think that this is unprofessional ? This leaves a bad picture. If I or my company did something like this we would be out of business. Should I take this to the official support chanel ? Should I buy support and send this directly to responsible people. Developers here should care about this. We all want to make a better distribution. End don't give me that attitude thing as I no longer care. Every time the new distribution is released it has it rough edges but this one... I can understand mistakes made in development but mistakes like this are made because someone didn't pay attention. Question to the person who made iso-s ? Did you know this ? How did it come to this ? Please explain to me how did you do it ? Is this a problem in communication between admins in MandrakeSoft like with updates that are announced but show up 4 days later. If you don't want to replay to this message because you think I'm to rude then don't. But you should investigate this if you have any power within mandrake. People lets make things more professional. Things like this do matter. If you think that what I'm talking about isn't important just send an empty reply saying nobody cares. We don't care about this whatever and I will stop posting on this subject. BM Because contrib isn't main, main isn't contrib. That has nothing to do BM with the fact that main is over 200MB larger than the space available on BM 3 CDs. So should we make another Contrib. Or should we just let these 200mb of packages stay in total oblivion ? As far as I know, most of the missing stuff is on the CD's that will be in stores. If I'm mistaken, someone may feel free to correct me. BM Read the changelog to see if it's anything that affects you. ? Do you even understand what I'm talking about. If it doesn't affect me maybe it affects other people. BM I don't see why I need to read your posts if you continue like this, so BM don't expect an answer if you stick to your current style (as it doesn't BM seem you are motivating anyone else to answer your posts either). Good. Then I will know that I'm left on my own and that I have to make my own modifications, build my own isos, and my own updates. And
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: move 9.2 to 9.2b or 9.2.1 and CHANGE the kernel!
does it mean then there will be newer ISO's or not? some people want MDK9.2 and I will be more then happy to give them the fixed public ISO's. , 29 2003, 19:10,Eric Fernandez: John Allen wrote: WTH does that mean How can a public ftp server contain leaked version of Mandrake 9.2? I correct myself : leaked bittorrent links (available to non-members). Eric -- diego, 4 Heshvan 5764 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [Cooker] [wietse@porcupine.org: Re: grsec/cleanup message on console]
Luca Berra kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 22 Lokakuu 2003 21:16): i don't think Wietse is subscribed to cooker :))) could someone from kernel team have a look at this? L. I checked this even if I don't belong to the MDK kernel team... ;-) [...] Luca Berra: in gr_log_resource() we have if (unlikely(wanted = task-rlim[res].rlim_cur task-rlim[res].rlim_cur != RLIM_INFINITY)) security_alert(GR_RESOURCE_MSG, using = is IMHO wrong. Indeed. I recommend that this grsec bug is fixed, instead of changing Postfix in order to work around grsec bugs. Wietse Yep. you are correct. it's fixed in the grsecurity cvs, and I will have it included in my next kernel... and hopefully Juan will pick it up also... -- Regards Thomas
[Cooker] [Bug 982] [kdebase] file views in konqueror in detailed mode don't respect double click settings
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 14:02 --- *** Bug 6253 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: When KDE has been set to use double-click to open files/direcories, konqueror will still open files/directories on single-click when using 'detailed' view. When icon view is used, the behaviour is correct.
[Cooker] [Bug 5372] [pcmcia-cs] pcmcia service hangup
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5372 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 14:09 --- KNOPPIX basically disables all the features that Mandrake has enabled at boot time (compare /proc/cmdline). Have you tried booting with the 'acpi=off apm=off noapic nolapic' options, which is basically what KNOPPIX uses, to see if one of those features is the problem? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Hi, I have recently installed mdk9.2rc1 on the laptop Compaq Presario 2100. The install was done without problems but on the startup the system just hangs on te Starting PCMCIA services. I have tried to disable the service by booting in single user mode, however in single user mode the keyboard simply doesn't work. I was able to resolve by bootting from the install cd and starting the install stage(on rescue keyboard didn't worked) and then switching to the console and mount the old root and disable pcmcia from the startup. The system booted fine without the pcmcia services. Note: I don't have any PCMCIA card on the sockets. Thanks
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: move 9.2 to 9.2b or 9.2.1 and CHANGE the kernel!
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 5:10 pm, Eric Fernandez wrote: John Allen wrote: WTH does that mean How can a public ftp server contain leaked version of Mandrake 9.2? I correct myself : leaked bittorrent links (available to non-members). Well bitttorrent has nothing to do with it; the Mandrake mirrors have effectively had 9.2 since cooker was frozen, so anybody could make the ISO's themselves. Admittedly they would not be identical to Mandrake's ISO's but they would contain fundamentally the same RPMS, and therefore the same problems. Eric -- John Allen, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeClub Silver Member. http://allentech.homelinux.org/
[Cooker] [Bug 6172] [nautilus] Nautilus crashes when deleting last file when in list view
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6172 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 14:55 --- I did it. Seems to be fixed. Thanx. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Nautilus is crashing every time when I delete last file when in the list view. After deleting the last file nautilus shows deleted file on the list instead of remaining files, so I can click it and immediately crash nautilus.
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
Francisco Alcaraz ha scritto: Yes I hope this, but not idea about when; I have downloaded the new kernel (not problematic lg drivers, but I suppose it is bugless tan the old one). Well, it has (at least) one less feature: packet writing capability has been omitted :-( well, anyway udf write support was never enabled, so not that bigger los( may be) although there is a updated patch that fixes the issues ( doesn't send the flush command) svetljo -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
[Cooker] LG-fixed cooker install available
Hi, I've copied to our local mirror updated files regarding 2.4.22-21mdkBOOT, which fixes the LG drives problem. Those include boot disks, isolinux/alt0 directory and Mandrake/mdk/modulez.cz-2.4.22-21mdkBOOT. There have been a first batch of boot images but with a deps problem for some network modules (at least), so I copy the md5sum here for you to verify you're using the correct ones: 297444c202f83de01a93679a9a61751c cdrom.img a8a6078dd76d21e220b3586c0f5e34b9 hdcdrom_usb.img a5ea89a65945ab94414d7775a93d72f0 hd.img cc4ffb3492332bc104704b19493a8ae3 network_gigabit_usb.img c32aa8737c5dae63cd7a9f504b35a7a3 network.img d454ed66ff8fc25bee76989ba04483fc pcmcia.img We have tested network.img with an affected LG 8322B, install and reboot do work nicely now. If unsure of what version of kernel you're booting, you might even verify it that way: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/t] strings network.img | grep 2.4.22 2.4.22-21mdkBOOT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) #1 Sat Oct 25 11:41:10 CEST 2003 -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: move 9.2 to 9.2b or 9.2.1 and CHANGE the kernel!
Am Mittwoch, 29. Oktober 2003 18:32 schrieb Diego Iastrubni: does it mean then there will be newer ISO's or not? some people want MDK9.2 and I will be more then happy to give them the fixed public ISO's. If you would read the errata page, you would see that new ISOs and CDs are in the work. ;) Steffen , 29 2003, 19:10,Eric Fernandez: John Allen wrote: WTH does that mean How can a public ftp server contain leaked version of Mandrake 9.2? I correct myself : leaked bittorrent links (available to non-members). Eric
[Cooker] dvb driver
Hi ! Just a question: The 9.2 dvb driver don't work. Should i file a bug for release or are the supposed not to work (that would cause the bug to be a feature request and this way to be invalid) ? I reported some weeks ago that the tmb dvb modules do work. Will see, i guess i install tmb kernel on sunday. Steffen
Re: NTP client in clock.pl [Was: Re: [Cooker] Some wishes for Mandrake 10.0...]
Le mer 29/10/2003 à 15:13, Daouda LO a écrit : Ok, i just finished putting ntp client feature in mcc (clock.pl). It's aimed to sync with a ntp server in local network but can be used for external ntp servers. Replace /usr/sbin/clock.pl by the one at http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~daouda/misc/clock.pl FeedbacksBugReports are welcome. works fine. pick my existing ntp server and can override it fine. problem with dropdown menu ( cf John Allen mail ) I think this should be place under a special button ( named Time Server for example ) in order to have a cleaner GUI --- Combien d'acteurs paraissent naturels parce qu'ils n'ont aucun talent. -- Jules Renard, Journal
[Cooker] [Bug 6205] [vegastrike] No ability to install vegastrike
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6205 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 15:12 --- fixed in latest release(which rebuilds nicely:) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: There is a problem with the isntallation of the vegastrike game. The dependency is libpython2.2.so.0.0 when there is libpython2.3.so.0.0 available only and the rpm can't recognize that.
Re: NTP client in clock.pl [Was: Re: [Cooker] Some wishes for Mandrake 10.0...]
Le mer 29/10/2003 à 15:13, Daouda LO a écrit : Ok, i just finished putting ntp client feature in mcc (clock.pl). It's aimed to sync with a ntp server in local network but can be used for external ntp servers. Replace /usr/sbin/clock.pl by the one at http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~daouda/misc/clock.pl FeedbacksBugReports are welcome. oh well, this need to be fixed in both installer and in clock.pl i think : starting ntpd is not enough to ensure that the system will be sync with the time server see this message : Oct 29 19:18:26 admin3 ntpd[32372]: time correction of -3585 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. This occurs because ntpd stop himself if the delay between local time and server time is superior to 1000s see : http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/debug.html to avoid this without having to change/set tinker panic, we should first ensure that ntpd is stopped ( service ntpd stop ), then launch ntpdate ( ntpdate mynewserver.com ), and finally lanch ntpd ( service ntpd start ) indeed ntpdate doesn't use the panic threshold and just sync the time with the server time. So this way we are sure that ntpd will be running fine afterwards --- Il faut rire avant d'etre heureux, de peur de mourir sans avoir ri. -- Jean de La Bruyere, Les Caracteres
[Cooker] [Bug 4654] [lgeneral] lgeneral - core dump after choosing Torch scenario
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4654 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 15:14 --- fixed in 1.1.1-2mdk -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: Run lgeneral and then choose scenario Torch and you'll get core dump with message: parser_get_entries: parser_get_pdata: pg/Torch/units: pg/Torch: subtree 'units' not found Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[Cooker] [Bug 4654] [lgeneral] lgeneral - core dump after choosing Torch scenario
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4654 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 15:15 --- fixed in 1.1.1-2mdk -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Run lgeneral and then choose scenario Torch and you'll get core dump with message: parser_get_entries: parser_get_pdata: pg/Torch/units: pg/Torch: subtree 'units' not found Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[Cooker] [Bug 5080] [ksensors] 9.2rc1 ksensors missing
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 15:13 --- package resides in contrib.. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: I have not found ksensors nor in RPMS[123] nor in Mandrake/RPMS.cooker lm_sensors when launched make the beeper sound continuously. Only reboot can stop this awful sound.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk
Is anyone running the conference module?
I am thinking I am having a silly configuration issue, but I can't
seem to get things going. (Been to Google, and read the docs.) I am
also seeing crashes, but have not isolated the cause yet.
Also, anyone else having problems stopping the jabber service? It
doe not happen all the time, but if (when) jabber hangs, I need to stop
it with kill, and then manually clear the /var/run/jabber/*pid file(s).
Hints would be appreciated.
Thanks!
S
FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
Le mar 28/10/2003 17:09, Frederic Crozat a crit :
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:06:28 -0500, magic wrote:
Hey all,
I was just wondering if there was any chance of having the jabberd
quickstart included in the jabber rpm (or possibly a seperate one)?
http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/quickstart/
Hmm, I'm not sure this one is needed nor useful for our own package..
I've got a request for jabber package : provide support for logrotate.
Indeed I was unable to start my local jabber server until I understand
that the problem's comes from /var/log/jabber/record.log and
/var/log/jabber/error.log . error.log grow, and grow and then at the end
jabber doesn't want to start as error.log was too big ( more than 7Mo,
maybe kopete related ... ). This limitation comes from xdb component.
So adding a script in /etc/logrotate.d could did the trick and allow to
don't have a jabber server stopping running at all ( this is limit a DoS
against jabber ).
weekly rotations should be enough with 4 copies for record.log, and
rotation when filesize exceed 1M should be enough for error.log :
/var/log/jabber/record.log {
monthly
rotate 4
notifempty
missingok
}
/var/log/jabber/error.log {
size=1M
rotate 4
notifempty
missingok
}
---
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(1871-1922).
Re[4]: [Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
It doesn't matter what has changed. What matters is that there is a difference between my rpms (in rpms rpms2 rpms3 ) and mirrors. A was under impression that RPMS dir on mirror holds everything that I get on my 3 cds. I will check this with 9.1 since I have those cd on me. MDP Not always. I think Buchan has the right idea, actually. From the technical side yes. From the professional side no. This reminds of a time when I had to work with a slackware guy. It's nice to have such power but its to time consuming. Professional look is something that matters in business. If I had to use slackware then there would be a greater chance of mistake, not because slackware is bad but because there is a much bigger chance for me to make a mistake. With mandrake I can deploy a new server rather quickly, and it will work 90% without problems. Cause of most problems I had was because I made a mistake. That's the same thing I'm trying to do here. When something goes wrong my customers call me. They are often angry (like me now) sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong, but in either case I have to listen to them and check what they said. I gives me a great pleasure when I found out that is their fault so I can rub it on their nose :) But that is not important. Maybe I'm to much on the professional side but is embarrassing to me when i have to tell people that 9.2 isn't that good. Just an hour ago a guy from the next office asked me to give him 9.2 so he could try this linux thing. I had to tell him to wait a while until i build fixed iso-s or to bring his machine so I could install it properly. Maybe I'm getting to personal with this but all of my friends who have/use linux use Mandrake because i gave it to them and it ain't nice to hear from the 9.2 is a crap. I hope that there are people here who agree that mandrake needs to pay attention and be a bit more professional especially now since they are in a financial trouble. I fell this is a lost cause. A battle that is already over since I can't reach anyone who will say people get your act together probably no one from the management at Mandrake will newer read this. Being professional doesn't require much time it just a matter of changing your attitude and force yourself to do the things you don't like doing. That is why SUSE is so strong in Europe. They are expensive, have bad policy on number of things but they are certainly not in financial trouble :( Anyway this is my last try to make things right, if you agree with me help me out, if not I will most certainly fail. MDP What's stupid? If I don't have the latest, I'm more than willing to add a MDP mirror so that I have them. How to add a repository in which 90% of packages are the same? I can download those which I don't have but there is a dilemma with different versions. What to do with them ? Put the newer packages that i need to a remasterd cd and the rest to contrib ? Anyway the point is that i should not have to do this in the first place. BTW i checked this with 9.1 and its the same thing (except for the versions mess). A lot of packages are missing from the first 3 cds. I have seen discussions that there should be a 4th cd, but if we are going to stick with 3 cds then please transfer those packages that cannot fit to the contrib, or somewhere else it doesn't matter where as long it is obvious where they can be found. I have newer noticed this before, but i found out now because kernel-source was removed from download edition. MDP As far as I know, most of the missing stuff is on the CD's that will be in MDP stores. If I'm mistaken, someone may feel free to correct me. Don't know that. Anyway I'm no longer able to bay packs so it doesn't matter to me. MDP It would be a waste of time if you don't subscribe to the changelog list. Been subscribed for a long time now. I look at it from time to time as a pointer where the things are going and what software is being added. If i need a changelog for a specific package I usually look at the srpm. #Krive drine. Sta mi je sve ovo trebalo.#
Re: NTP client in clock.pl [Was: Re: [Cooker] Some wishes for Mandrake 10.0...]
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 7:42 pm, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mer 29/10/2003 à 15:13, Daouda LO a écrit : Ok, i just finished putting ntp client feature in mcc (clock.pl). It's aimed to sync with a ntp server in local network but can be used for external ntp servers. Replace /usr/sbin/clock.pl by the one at http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~daouda/misc/clock.pl FeedbacksBugReports are welcome. oh well, this need to be fixed in both installer and in clock.pl i think : starting ntpd is not enough to ensure that the system will be sync with the time server see this message : Oct 29 19:18:26 admin3 ntpd[32372]: time correction of -3585 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. Normally the ntpd initscript will do an ntpdate if, and only if /etc/ntp/conf/step-tickers exists. So the GUI should init that file with the value of your ntp server -- John Allen, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeClub Silver Member. http://allentech.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
Galileo kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 29 Lokakuu 2003 21:39): [..] MDP What's stupid? If I don't have the latest, I'm more than willing to add a MDP mirror so that I have them. How to add a repository in which 90% of packages are the same? I can download those which I don't have but there is a dilemma with different versions. What to do with them ? Put the newer packages that i need to a remasterd cd and the rest to contrib ? [...] Actually you don't need to bother where the newer packages are if you add a repository that has almost the same contents... that's the power of urpmi/rpmdrake... they will download and install the latest versions regardless of the repository... -- Regards Thomas
Re[2]: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
GM I think all you should have to do is replace the packages and then run some GM scripts that update the package lists in the Mandrake/base directory. GM gendistrib should be one, but I don't know of the others. Have you considered adding a few remarks to your twiki page like the need to use the new kernel-boot and how to do it or rebuilding alsautils package and add a dependancy for newt or cdialog. I hope that with the new isos mandrake is planing to release all of this will be fixed. It would be a great stunt if mandrake would say: hey people this was just a RC. We needed more people to test it so we could really polish it out. Here is the REAL 9.2 :.
Re: NTP client in clock.pl [Was: Re: [Cooker] Some wishes for Mandrake 10.0...]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luca Berra wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:07:25PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Well, in case you missed the NTP threads/bugs from about 2 months ago, the default configuration (assuming users have full access to outside NTP servers) should have 3 entries for 'pool.ntp.org' (IIRC, check in bugzilla), since they have round-robin DNS, so ntpd should get 3 different servers: the problem is that you cannot use dns names for restrictions in ntpd.conf, so we would have to putt all ip addresses for pool.ntp.org in there. But I think (looking at Daouda's updated clock.pl) that we are talking about the 'server' entries in /etc/ntp.conf, which most certainly can be hostnames, and the NTP people have been suggesting using 3 entries the pool.ntp.org for a few months now. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n/5wrJK6UGDSBKcRAiecAJwIOHFj+7P4O090bCAn8LH4JcEcYwCdFrWS 3YTQG5s0D4NmIq1s2wx2DI8= =wKBM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] A new guide about rpmdrake
Eric Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have done a new guide for installing media and software, with 9.2 screenshots. It is available here :http://www.zebulon.org.uk/ICML0.HTML (and licensed under FDL). thx, it's nice :). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[Cooker] KDE Missing Applets
Since installing .82 kdebase packages, five applets have disappeared from usability, including the taskbar. In their place are now simply blank entries, if anyone else has dealt with this, I'd appreciate assistance. Thanks, Michael
Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)
Pablo Saratxaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2all - what do you think of translating contributors list? I
mean, using native names in native locale. I do not know how
many non-ISO8859-1 contributors are there though ...
that would be nice :-)
Yes; I usually put N() around people name showing in credit screens;
so it allows for names to be written correctly for non latin scripts
(or even for latin scripts using lots of accents)
here the list does not come from perl sources but from a text file
included in mandrake-release package that is read at runtime by
drakconf.
pablo, maybe should we import them in drakconf po ?
it's not hard: the following perl script converts CREDITS from
mandrake-release into a dumb perl file such as :
=
{
N(contributor1) = N(description1),
N(contributor2) = N(description2),
(...)
}
=
You mean a credits-screen common to all mdk-tools? (like the generic
credits screen of Gnome that lists all contributors)
It would indeed be a good idea; I don't know where exactly to tie
it... maybe an extra menu entry about mandrake linux... ?
the about window of mcc list mandrake contributors since mdk9.2
(only mcc's about dialog)
just run it :-)
I didn't knew about that CREDITS file; translators should be added
too (only a few are)
just go (in the cooker twiki)
Re: [Cooker] [origin found] 9.2 and fried LG cdroms - what's the solution?
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:12, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Ok, here's status: Nicolas Planel found the origin of the problem. It's the packet writing support for cd/dvd burners that was introduced on 15th of August I'm astounded that anyone would ship a drive that can be fried in software. That's also much of a bad luck, the firmware was probably designed at a time the FLUSH stuff was not even in the ATAPI specifications - and since every manufacturer more or less needs to use an extension of specs to do firmware updates.. What surprises me is that they don't rely on a magic at the beginning and end of the new firmware sequence, or a md5sum-alike of the firmware sequence. If it's only known to the hardware it would be an efficient protection against viruses that would exploit it to destroy the drive. What's the solution? Is a fried drive truly fried, or can they be re-flashed or something to resuscitate it? We're in technical contacts with LG in korea now. They're nice. They've talked about a way to recover de firmware but they said it's not easy for typical customer. We'll see what is it exactly. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Errata not init floppy: not solved
Francisco Alcaraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sharrea, I prepared also a floppy for my laptop and have the same reboot after several minutes trying to download the vmlinux. I think over burnt floppies might not be so reliable, and might also be problematic with bootloaders. Just a guess. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Galileo wrote: BM And it had nothing to do with the subject, but the fact that it was BM still quite a conflict-generating post. You replied within 30 minutes. A rest my case :) I will reply to this one only because you have some misconceptions about this list. After this one, I will ignore you (probably via procmail rules) just like everyone else is. It was 1:20 AM, I was pretty frustrated while trying to figure who the hell cares. I'm an unsatisfied customer, This isn't a customer support list, it's the development list, your questions about 9.2 belong somewhere else. BM Because contrib isn't main, main isn't contrib. That has nothing to do BM with the fact that main is over 200MB larger than the space available on BM 3 CDs. So should we make another Contrib. Or should we just let these 200mb of packages stay in total oblivion ? No, they live about the same place contrib does. They are on the Powerpack and ProSuite CDs. Yes, add a urpmi medium for main to machines running from the 3 download ISOs (just as you would for contrib). BM Read the changelog to see if it's anything that affects you. ? Do you even understand what I'm talking about. If it doesn't affect me maybe it affects other people. BM I don't see why I need to read your posts if you continue like this, so BM don't expect an answer if you stick to your current style (as it doesn't BM seem you are motivating anyone else to answer your posts either). Good. Then I will know that I'm left on my own and that I have to make my own modifications, ??? build my own isos, If you want. and my own updates. I don't think you would be able to keep up with Vince. And at the end if it turns up that it is to much for me I will try some other distribution. i haven't installed anything else except mandrake in the last few years (since RH 6.2) but maybe its time to start now. Or maybe it's time to change your expectations of this list. If you're paying me consulting rates, I will be very polite, but you're not my client just as you aren't a client of any of the other non-Mandrake contributors on this list, and the Mandrakesoft people on this list are developers, not support staff. If you aren't prepared to file a bug for cooker, your issue does not belong on this list. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n/RfrJK6UGDSBKcRAnhXAJ4jocLxc6ngW21M28p0KAs/pPw/MgCeKOeO lKjFNTUnAkbG95H54ObGk1s= =sLYc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Errata not init floppy: not solved
If it is impossible make a boot floppy due to the size of the kernel, it could be appropriate erase this option in DrakConf, couldn't it? Regards El Miércoles, 29 de Octubre de 2003 23:00, Guillaume Cottenceau escribió: Francisco Alcaraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sharrea, I prepared also a floppy for my laptop and have the same reboot after several minutes trying to download the vmlinux. I think over burnt floppies might not be so reliable, and might also be problematic with bootloaders. Just a guess. -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia, España (Spain)
[Cooker] SUB cooker
IDOS - jzdn dy - Vyhledn spojen vlakem, busem i MHD. href=http://user.centrum.cz/redir.php?url=http://www.idos.cz;/a
Re[2]: [Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
BM contributors on this list, and the Mandrakesoft people on this list are BM developers, not support staff. If you aren't prepared to file a bug for BM cooker, your issue does not belong on this list. Because this is a developers list I posted here to get to the ones responsible and not go trough all the hassle of support staff. I will wait for the new isos to come up and if nothing changes: bue, bue mandrake hello suse. Anyway I will stop trying. There is no point anymore. I tried to help but nobody cares. Best wishes to you all.
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: move 9.2 to 9.2b or 9.2.1 and CHANGE the kernel!
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 16:02, Eric Fernandez wrote: Claudio wrote: Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) Since many of us are having BIG problem with the 9.2 tree on the mirror (expecially for the LG-bug), imho it would be safe to REMOVE the actual 9.2 and upload a new 9.2b or similar, with the fixed kernel (and the correct kde packages and so on...). What do you think about it? Thanks, Claudio What you suggest has been announced ages ago on the errata page... Moreover, there is nothing to remove since it has not been distributed to the public and is not available on server (except for leaked versions). Uh? club-internet.fr, to name just one mirror, has a full 9.2 tree. We're talking *trees* here, not ISOs. -- adamw
Re: Re[4]: [Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 19:39, Galileo wrote: BTW i checked this with 9.1 and its the same thing (except for the versions mess). A lot of packages are missing from the first 3 cds. I have seen discussions that there should be a 4th cd, but if we are going to stick with 3 cds then please transfer those packages that cannot fit to the contrib, or somewhere else it doesn't matter where as Why? You're working on a completely broken assumption. The download edition does not contain all of main, has never been intended to contain all of main and has never SAID it contains all of main. It contains a selection of the packages in main. The split between main and contrib is not packages on the download edition / packages not on the download edition. It's officially supported packages / non-officially supported packages. Clear? -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed
On Wednesday 29 Oct 2003 10:48, Frank Griffin wrote: Jos wrote: I did some testing myself, working on something similar, though I still don't know what people prefer: that I hack init, or replace /etc/rc.d/rc by a binary... Is the problem that the necessary initializations take too long, or that they take too long when run serially under a single thread ? 1) We do too many things. One example is: running depmod every boot is nonsense: if modules are installed by rpm, rpm can call depmod. If the user installs a kernel by hand, make modules_install calls depmod. If the user hacks the modules by hand he is on his own. Depmod -A is supposed to be fast, but it still requires scanning a directory structure which hasn't been cached yet. Hacking together a kernel.h at each boot is nice for the few guys who change kernel every five minutes, not for the mainstream systems. My Mandrake starts NFS support by default. IMHO I should see no NFS services started unless configured by the user. Now they are started with empty tables. 2) We do them serial, which consumes extra time. Parallel is faster, the few reports of slower boot times are due to incomplete service dependency tables, causing services to timeout waiting for other services. 3) Ok, many things done don't take much time. but 20x not much time is still much time. 4) We don't give the user the feeling the system is quick. The famous Windows XP is fast remarks hold, for Windows XP makes the user think it is fast.This is almost unresolvable unless we can drop XFree86, which is utter bloatware. For init 3 (console) I managed to show the console within 3 seconds after init entered runlevel 3. WOW that looked fast. Sure, I can't do much for my network wasn't up yet, but the psychological effect was huge. Jos Windows XP is a trademark of the company which will probably sue me for comparing it to Linux.
Re[6]: [Cooker] You really screwed up this time: Inconsistency between mirrors and packages in ML 9.2
AW edition. It's officially supported packages / non-officially supported AW packages. Clear? Yes now. I have been using mandrake since 7.1 or so and i didn't now this. A couple of my friends who are using it for I while didn't know it either. I'm not going even to mention different package versions. It doesn't matter any more. I will wait for updated iso-s and hope that all of the mistakes will be fixed. Don't have the strength to pursue this anymore. Best Wishes to you all.
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Errata not init floppy: not solved
Francisco Alcaraz kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Torstai 30 Lokakuu 2003 00:23): If it is impossible make a boot floppy due to the size of the kernel, it could be appropriate erase this option in DrakConf, couldn't it? how about switching to bootable rescue isos... mkrescue --iso --initrd /boot/initrd-2.4.22-21mdk-i686-up-4GB.img --kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-21mdk-i686-up-4GB will generate a =2880kb iso that you can burn and boot from... of course not all have burners, but atleast some can use this feature..., and you could always mail/ftp it to someone who has... -- Regards Thomas
[Cooker] Mandrake Vs. HP Pavilion zd7020 laptop!
Hi List! I have the short term use of a Hewlett Packard Pavilion zd7020 laptop computer! Of course, the first thing I did was join the club so I could bit-torrent the 9.2 version of Mandrake. The install went smoothly, but I note the following problems: ntfsresize could not re-size the win XP partition. There was an error about the cluster accounting. I'm sorry, but I forgot to write down the exact error. Configuirng the wide-screen display required manual editing of the XF86Config-4 file. I used the win-XP reported 1440x900 resolution and 60Hz refresh to compute the correct display mode using the modeline calculator that I found here: http://www.zaph.com/Modeline/ I used the defaults for everything but the screen's native resolution. The sound system does not seem to work properly. When a sound plays (through the ALSA driver, I have not tried others) only extremely angry noise comes from the speakers. The audio system is reported as 82801EB AC'97 Audio in the Mandrake Control Center. I have not had a chance to try the DVD+RW/CDRW combo drive as a writer under linux. ( borrowed 3 discs to write the linux cds under winxp...) The 4-way didgital media reader does not appear to work, though I have not investigated it deeply. The scroll-wheel touch-pad does not detect properly during install, but when re-configured afterward it works fine, though the scroll-wheel is too sensitive in the default condition. I only have access to this machine for another week! PLEASE tell me what diagnostics to run, and I will post the results to the web. This is a nice enough system, that I will probably buy a similar model, but I thought should get as much info from it as possible while I could. please advise! Many thanks! +-% He's a real UNIX Man $-++ | Sitting in his UNIX LAN | Charles A. Shirley | | Making all his UNIX plans | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +--# For nobody @--++
[Cooker] Gnome Ghostview does not allow changing printer settings
I tried to change the printer settings in the ggv (ggv-2.4.0.1-1mdk) from /usr/bin/lpr to xpp but the settings does not store. If I try to print or go to check out settings again, /usr/bin/lpr is back... Does anybody know where ggv stores config files, maybe I could then try to change this setting manually. Mika
[Cooker] [Bug 4083] [kernel] PWC update
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4083 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-29 23:13 --- I have a philips webcam 646, and i have insmod pwc failed too with kernels (2.4.22.6mdk ; 2.4.22.10mdk ; 2.4.22.21mdk) and with tmb kernels (2.4.22.10tmb ; 2.4.22.10tmb) ! But with 2.4.210.25mdk no problem. this bug isn't resolved. Eric. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: The driver for the philips usb-webcam (pwc) as been updated from release 8.10 to 8.10.1. This new driver add some new supported camera. pwc is currently included in the kernel, and is usually loaded as a module. It could be fine to include this new driver in the future kernel updates.
[Cooker] Dependency Oddities (weirdness)
just curious. as you may or may not know i'm rebuilding mdk rpms w/ athlon optimizations. I found some weird (i think) dependency issues while doing so. I'll list them all in this thread, while the rebuilding may not interest you guys the dependency ... um, quirks, let us say, may be far more interesting for you 1. binutils - afaik this shouldn't depend on anything but when building the rpm it requires dejagnu and glibc-static-devel I went ahead and rebuilt without this and got no errors. Comments? -- for a good time see www.I-Kubed.Org
Re: [Cooker] Dependency Oddities (weirdness)
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 10:35 pm, illogic-al wrote: just curious. as you may or may not know i'm rebuilding mdk rpms w/ athlon optimizations. I found some weird (i think) dependency issues while doing so. I'll list them all in this thread, while the rebuilding may not interest you guys the dependency ... um, quirks, let us say, may be far more interesting for you 1. binutils - afaik this shouldn't depend on anything but when building the rpm it requires dejagnu and glibc-static-devel I went ahead and rebuilt without this and got no errors. Comments? 2. gcc needs gcc-gnat = 3.1 is needed by gcc-3.3.1-2mdk libgnat1 = 3.1 is needed by gcc-3.3.1-2mdk glibc-static-devel = 2.2.5-14mdk is needed by gcc-3.3.1-2mdk tetex is needed by gcc-3.3.1-2mdk tetex-dvips is needed by gcc-3.3.1-2mdk tetex-latex is needed by gcc-3.3.1-2mdk dejagnu is needed by gcc-3.3.1-2mdk I'm gonna build without installing any of these and see what happens -- for a good time see www.I-Kubed.Org
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 03:38 pm, Galileo wrote: GM I think all you should have to do is replace the packages and then run some GM scripts that update the package lists in the Mandrake/base directory. GM gendistrib should be one, but I don't know of the others. Have you considered adding a few remarks to your twiki page like the need to use the new kernel-boot and how to do it or rebuilding alsautils package and add a dependancy for newt or cdialog. I hope that with the new isos mandrake is planing to release all of this will be fixed. It would be a great stunt if mandrake would say: hey people this was just a RC. We needed more people to test it so we could really polish it out. Here is the REAL 9.2 :. Yeah, but I am trying to figure it all out right now. I am having a terrible time getting MakeCD to run in anything other than auto mode. If I use the config file, it won't build the iso. The scripts are not well documented and everyone else that talks about doing this skips so many details in their descriptions, assuming everyone knows it all, that it is nearly impossible to figure out. So I'll be happy to update it once I figure out WTF to do. -- Greg
