Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-10-21 Thread Tom Livingston
As usual, I see the issue AFTER I post here and look like an idiot.
Disregard. Problem solved. What I had to do was drink more coffee

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello list,

 I cannot post a link at this time, so I hope I can explain this well...

 I have two a hrefs with the following style:

 a.browse {
        display:block;
        position: absolute;
        background-position: 0 0;
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        height:540px;
        width: 200px;
        top: -50px;
        font-size:1em;
        z-index: 100;
        text-indent: -em;
        cursor: pointer;
 }

 /* right */
 a.right{right: 0;}
 a.right:hover{background-image: url(right-nav-arrow.png);
 background-position: 0 -540px;}

 /* left */
 a.left{left: 0;}
 a.left:hover{background-image: url(left-nav-arrow.png);
 background-position: 0 -540px;}


 These do not render in IE unless I add a background-color. I need 100%
 transparency. Currently the background images are 200x1080 trans
 png's. the off state is 100% trans and on hover a small arrow appears,
 but otherwise it is 100% trans as well.

 Is there another way to get IE to play nice other than a
 background-color? background-color: transparent; does not work either.

 Help!


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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-10-21 Thread David Laakso

 On 10/21/10 11:39 AM, Tom Livingston wrote:

As usual, I see the issue AFTER I post here.
Disregard. Problem solved. What I had to do was drink more coffee





Curious. What was the issue and what did you do to solve the problem 
[other than drink more coffee] ?


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Re: [css-d] IE problem navigation and other info moving over.

2010-09-21 Thread Duncan Hill
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:33:52 +0100, Carol Swinehart  
c...@ckfswebservices.com wrote:



http://www.bowenhouse.org/

This looks fine in the other browsers

I need a fix for IE that doesn't break the other browsers.

Thanks,

Carol


Try removing:

position:absolute;
margin-left:560px;

from your #navigation rules.

Duncan
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text

2010-09-01 Thread David Hucklesby

On 8/31/10 10:18 PM, Timariane Thornewig wrote:

Thank you, Beth. That worked! You can see it in:
http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign4.html

Now I just need to fix my background image problem in IE 6.  Does
anyone know if there is a way to make .png files appear correctly in
IE 6?



There are fixes for 24-bit transparent PNGs, but most use a Microsoft
filter that does not allow for positioning other that top left or
stretch to cover. My recommendation would be to use a transparent
PNG-8 or GIF for IE 6, via an IE-only style sheet or using the star
HTML hack.[1]

If you are happy with a scripting solution, I believe DD_belatedPNG.js
does allow positioning:

http://dillerdesign.com/experiment/DD_belatedPNG/

I've not tried this though.

Cordially,
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text

2010-08-31 Thread Timariane Thornewig
Thank you, Beth. That worked! You can see it in:
http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign4.html

Now I just need to fix my background image problem in IE 6.  Does anyone know 
if there is a way to make .png files appear correctly in IE 6?



--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Beth Lee callib...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Beth Lee callib...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text
To: Timariane Thornewig timandari...@yahoo.com
Cc: jta...@rocketmail.com, css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 2:24 AM

 --- On Tue, 31/8/10, Timariane Thornewig timandari...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I was wondering if someone can help me out, I'm a newbie.
 The logo is appearing on top of my text in several versions
 of IE.

and then ...

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Timariane Thornewig
timandari...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I just tried to adjust the CSS and I created another version of the HTML 
 called:
 http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign2.html

Float your sidebar div left, and don't float your main div. That fixes
it for me.
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text

2010-08-31 Thread Timariane Thornewig
Thanks, Alan. Your solution definitely worked for IE8, but doesn't seem to work 
for IE7.

The link you sent over is full of helpful info on IE bugs.



--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Alan Gresley a...@css-class.com wrote:

From: Alan Gresley a...@css-class.com
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text
To: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com
Cc: Timariane Thornewig timandari...@yahoo.com, 
css-d@lists.css-discuss.org, Joel D Canfield j...@bizba6.com
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 4:52 AM

David Laakso wrote:
 Timariane Thornewig wrote:
 I just tried to adjust the CSS and I created another version of the HTML 
 called:
 http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign2.html
 
 It's not really solving my problem, but I think I'm getting closer!
   
 
 Unable to hit a moving target :-) . Let it be and make no further changes.
 
 Best,
 ~d


The original page had this bug that is present in IE5~IE7.


http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/5~7/ap-left-auto-margin-left-next-element.htm


It happens if a absolutely positioned element with left auto offset is followed 
in the source by and element with a margin-left. IE5~IE7 positions the 
absolutely positioned element by the value of margin-left of the following 
element. To fix the bug, the left offset for the ap. element must be given a 
value other than auto. left: 0 would fix this bug. IE7- does have troubles with 
left: auto [1] but this is a strange case.


1. http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/calculated-offset-bug1.htm


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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text

2010-08-30 Thread Jay Tanna

The page is identical in Mozilla 3.6.8 and IE8.  What version of IE have you 
tested in?

IE8 screen shot is here:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_K3_a3GBHwyA/THxTkgeRM0I/ADw/9cNUSd8puwo/s640/31-08-2010%2001-51-58.png

hth

--- On Tue, 31/8/10, Timariane Thornewig timandari...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I was wondering if someone can help me out, I'm a newbie.
 The logo is appearing on top of my text in several versions
 of IE. 
 
 http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign.html
 
 I think this is just one of the pages it's happening on.
 May be happening on other pages of the site. Anyone know of
 an IE fix for this?
 



  
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text

2010-08-30 Thread Timariane Thornewig
I just tried to adjust the CSS and I created another version of the HTML called:
http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign2.html

It's not really solving my problem, but I think I'm getting closer!

--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Timariane Thornewig timandari...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Timariane Thornewig timandari...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org, jta...@rocketmail.com
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:08 AM

Thanks, Jay. I'm looking at screenshots from IE 7 and IE 6. Sorry, I keep 
forgetting IE 8 is out.

I'm attaching my screenshots.



--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Jay Tanna jta...@rocketmail.com wrote:

From: Jay Tanna jta...@rocketmail.com
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org, Timariane Thornewig timandari...@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:00 AM


The page is identical in Mozilla 3.6.8 and IE8.  What version of IE have you 
tested in?

IE8 screen shot is here:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_K3_a3GBHwyA/THxTkgeRM0I/ADw/9cNUSd8puwo/s640/31-08-2010%2001-51-58.png

hth

--- On Tue, 31/8/10, Timariane Thornewig timandari...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I was wondering if someone can help me out, I'm a newbie.
 The logo is appearing on top of my text in several versions
 of IE. 
 
 http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign.html
 
 I think this is just one of the pages it's happening on.
 May be happening on other pages of the site. Anyone know of
 an IE fix for this?
 







  


  
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text

2010-08-30 Thread David Laakso

Timariane Thornewig wrote:

I just tried to adjust the CSS and I created another version of the HTML called:
http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign2.html

It's not really solving my problem, but I think I'm getting closer!
  







Unable to hit a moving target :-) . Let it be and make no further changes.

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text

2010-08-30 Thread Beth Lee
 --- On Tue, 31/8/10, Timariane Thornewig timandari...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I was wondering if someone can help me out, I'm a newbie.
 The logo is appearing on top of my text in several versions
 of IE.

and then ...

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Timariane Thornewig
timandari...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I just tried to adjust the CSS and I created another version of the HTML 
 called:
 http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign2.html

Float your sidebar div left, and don't float your main div. That fixes
it for me.
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text

2010-08-30 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Timariane Thornewig wrote:


I just tried to adjust the CSS and I created another version of the HTML called:
http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign2.html

It's not really solving my problem, but I think I'm getting closer!


   It's worse! http://cfajohnson.com/testing/Thornewig.jpg


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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - logo appearing on top of text

2010-08-30 Thread Alan Gresley

David Laakso wrote:

Timariane Thornewig wrote:
I just tried to adjust the CSS and I created another version of the 
HTML called:

http://www.ashelighting.com/controldesign2.html

It's not really solving my problem, but I think I'm getting closer!
  


Unable to hit a moving target :-) . Let it be and make no further changes.

Best,
~d



The original page had this bug that is present in IE5~IE7.


http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/5~7/ap-left-auto-margin-left-next-element.htm


It happens if a absolutely positioned element with left auto offset is 
followed in the source by and element with a margin-left. IE5~IE7 
positions the absolutely positioned element by the value of 
margin-left of the following element. To fix the bug, the left offset 
for the ap. element must be given a value other than auto. left: 0 
would fix this bug. IE7- does have troubles with left: auto [1] but 
this is a strange case.



1. http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/calculated-offset-bug1.htm


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Re: [css-d] IE Problem has been killing my social life...

2010-05-21 Thread David Laakso
Jan West wrote:

 The page is
 www.neptac.org/employment and you can see that the page has a horizontal
 scrollbar showing up in IE7. 
  

 Jan  

  
   








Checked only on a local file, try:

*:first-child+html #tablefooter {overflow-x: hidden;}

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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread James White
I was able to get it to display with IE dev tools by adding zoom: 1 to
the contentWrapper id to trigger haslayout.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Atkinson, Sarah
sarah.atkin...@cookmedical.com wrote:
 I have been working on this yesterday and today And I simply can't figure it 
 out.
 It is a wordpress site. And it just is giving me some very weird giant white 
 box display problems win IE6 and 7.

  http://test.grantstinn.com/
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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Bill Braun
CSS validation is pointing to a style sheet that cannot be found. Also, 
there are some HTML validation errors. About half refer to how the 
phrase b  b is being treated, but there are some div related errors.

Bill B

Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I have been working on this yesterday and today And I simply can't figure it 
 out.
 It is a wordpress site. And it just is giving me some very weird giant white 
 box display problems win IE6 and 7.

  http://test.grantstinn.com/
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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread David Postill
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:28:11 -0400, Atkinson, Sarah wrote:

| I have been working on this yesterday and today And I simply can't figure it 
out.
| It is a wordpress site. And it just is giving me some very weird giant white 
box display problems win IE6 and 7.
| 
|  http://test.grantstinn.com/

You have errors:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.grantstinn.com%2F
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css21warning=0uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.grantstinn.com%2F
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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Bill Braun
Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I have been working on this yesterday and today And I simply can't figure it 
 out.
 It is a wordpress site. And it just is giving me some very weird giant white 
 box display problems win IE6 and 7.

  http://test.grantstinn.com/
 __
   
I'll tread very lightly here, Sarah. There seems to be a lot of styles 
that are either redundant or conflicting. I did not examine them with 
any rigor, it is a first impression. Also, it looks like you are linked 
to five different external style sheets. Are they all necessary? There 
may be conflicts between/among them that would be hard to track down.

Bill B


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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Atkinson, Sarah

I'll tread very lightly here, Sarah. There seems to be a lot of styles
that are either redundant or conflicting. I did not examine them with
any rigor, it is a first impression. Also, it looks like you are linked
to five different external style sheets. Are they all necessary? There
may be conflicts between/among them that would be hard to track down.

Bill B

Those have to do with Wordpress Plugins... Some of the plugins auto load their 
own stylesheets.
Wordpress is a decent CMS but it does have issues with massive amounts of 
loaded files and it makes a mess of CSS files and JS files.
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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Bill Braun

Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I'll tread very lightly here, Sarah. There seems to be a lot of styles
 that are either redundant or conflicting. I did not examine them with
 any rigor, it is a first impression. Also, it looks like you are linked
 to five different external style sheets. Are they all necessary? There
 may be conflicts between/among them that would be hard to track down.

 Bill B

 Those have to do with Wordpress Plugins... Some of the plugins auto load 
 their own stylesheets.
 Wordpress is a decent CMS but it does have issues with massive amounts of 
 loaded files and it makes a mess of CSS files and JS files.
   


Can you remove the link rel=stylesheet... references from your HTML 
documents?

Bill B


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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Claude Needham
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Atkinson, Sarah
sarah.atkin...@cookmedical.com wrote:
 I have been working on this yesterday and today And I simply can't figure it 
 out.
 It is a wordpress site. And it just is giving me some very weird giant white 
 box display problems win IE6 and 7.

  http://test.grantstinn.com/

Hello Sarah,

In IE6, I am not seeing what I would call a giant white box in the
above sample page.

I do see two issues.

1) The png images are not displayed properly. This is a common problem
with IE6. There are known methods for handling png in IE6. Me, I'm a
coward. I just use gif and jpg.

2) There is a 10 px margin between the light brown background content
box and the darker brown border like line.

For me, given my attitude about folks still using IE 6 in the light of
current hyper-security risks, I would just pretend that I wanted the
10px margin at the bottom of the page. And let the IE6 users have a
slightly different viewer experience. If this is a job for a client
try browbeating them into upgrading to IE8 grin.

Given the ultra weirdness of Wordpress/Addon css handling. I would try
saving the document onto your hard-drive using something like the
Firefox save complete document.

Then you can edit the page removing stuff bit by bit until you isolate
the problem without the extra complexity of potential cross
interactions between different style sheets.

If your giant white box is a different effect than I am seeing in my
particular IE6, perhaps you could point to an image displaying the
behavior.

Regards,
Claude
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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Atkinson, Sarah
They arn't there they are put in there on the server before it serves the file. 
They are called and the header html is compiled with the get_header() function. 
This looks at all the loaded plugins and installs the necessary files. As well 
as the header info I put into the header.php file.
I could uninstall the plug ins but then nothing would work.
Right now I have 5 plugins installed.
One for SEO (it's whats throwing the BB errors.) It allows our content person 
to manage meta data, and she used the ''.
One for Magic-fields - in the back end it lets me create panels for items.. For 
instance they get a new friend for the friends page. I created a panal in tools 
for them to select new friend and then they fill out some data and whala the 
content of the page just changed without me even having to no about it. It is 
also probably the most important plugin I have.
Then there is the Contact Forms- again they can change any of it If a month 
from now they find they need a new bit of info then it can be added by them.
There is also one for shadowbox. It has all the needed JS and integrates it 
into the back end of wordpress. It is very file intensive but looks realy nice 
and we use it a lot.
The last is Google Analytics.

And then there is wordpress itself... It is a monster but it does separate 
content from presentation.




On 3/19/10 1:03 PM, Bill Braun bbr...@hlthsys.com wrote:



Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I'll tread very lightly here, Sarah. There seems to be a lot of styles
 that are either redundant or conflicting. I did not examine them with
 any rigor, it is a first impression. Also, it looks like you are linked
 to five different external style sheets. Are they all necessary? There
 may be conflicts between/among them that would be hard to track down.

 Bill B

 Those have to do with Wordpress Plugins... Some of the plugins auto load 
 their own stylesheets.
 Wordpress is a decent CMS but it does have issues with massive amounts of 
 loaded files and it makes a mess of CSS files and JS files.



Can you remove the link rel=stylesheet... references from your HTML
documents?

Bill B


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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Atkinson, Sarah
I think I got the giant white box fixed... I added display: block and position: 
relative; to a few divs then I had to change the z-index on a couple of other 
items to compensate. This caused a couple of other problems to develop in 
safari but I think I have got it.


On 3/19/10 1:22 PM, Claude Needham gxx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Atkinson, Sarah
sarah.atkin...@cookmedical.com wrote:
 I have been working on this yesterday and today And I simply can't figure it 
 out.
 It is a wordpress site. And it just is giving me some very weird giant white 
 box display problems win IE6 and 7.

  http://test.grantstinn.com/

Hello Sarah,

In IE6, I am not seeing what I would call a giant white box in the
above sample page.

I do see two issues.

1) The png images are not displayed properly. This is a common problem
with IE6. There are known methods for handling png in IE6. Me, I'm a
coward. I just use gif and jpg.

2) There is a 10 px margin between the light brown background content
box and the darker brown border like line.

For me, given my attitude about folks still using IE 6 in the light of
current hyper-security risks, I would just pretend that I wanted the
10px margin at the bottom of the page. And let the IE6 users have a
slightly different viewer experience. If this is a job for a client
try browbeating them into upgrading to IE8 grin.

Given the ultra weirdness of Wordpress/Addon css handling. I would try
saving the document onto your hard-drive using something like the
Firefox save complete document.

Then you can edit the page removing stuff bit by bit until you isolate
the problem without the extra complexity of potential cross
interactions between different style sheets.

If your giant white box is a different effect than I am seeing in my
particular IE6, perhaps you could point to an image displaying the
behavior.

Regards,
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Re: [css-d] IE problem - floats won't align

2009-06-28 Thread David Laakso
Chris Blake wrote:
 Hi,

 I am having trouble getting something very basic to render in IE.

 http://www.glyszc.cn/tours.html

 Two simple columns in the main content. Render how I'd like in  
 Safari4, but get messed up by IE.


 Thanks, Chris
   


This will should help bring Opera, SeaMonkey, Camino, and IE/6/7/8 on-board.

.twoColFixLtHdr #mainContent {  border: 1px solid red; overflow:hidden;
/*margin: 0 100 0 190px;*/
/*padding: 0 100px; */
}
.twoColFixLtHdr #mainContent #shows {  border: 1px solid red; 
overflow:hidden; width: 408px;
/*width: 550px;*/
/*height: 200px;*/
}
.twoColFixLtHdr #mainContent #shows img{ border: 1px solid red;
float: left;
margin-bottom: 5px;
}
.twoColFixLtHdr #mainContent #shows #left{ border: 1px solid blue; 
width: 150px;
float: left;
}
.twoColFixLtHdr #mainContent #shows #right{ border: 1px solid red;width: 
150px;
float: right;
}

To fix the left column navigation block, you will need to validate the 
CSS (try shorthand properties).
BTW, Conditional Comments go in the head of the document immediately 
below the linked style sheet-- *not in the style sheet.*


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Re: [css-d] IE problem - floats won't align

2009-06-28 Thread Chris Blake

I think I have fixed it now - feedback please.


On 28/06/2009, at 11:50 PM, Chris Blake wrote:

 Hi,

 I am having trouble getting something very basic to render in IE.

 http://www.glyszc.cn/tours.html
 http://www.glyszc.cn/prices.html (pretty much the same page, with the
 same ID tags)

 http://www.glyszc.cn/styles/one.css

 Two simple columns in the main content. Render how I'd like in
 Safari4, but get messed up by IE.

 Safari-4 is OK, any other browsers out there, I would like the  
 feedback.

 Thanks, Chris
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Re: [css-d] IE problem - floats won't align

2009-06-28 Thread David Laakso
Chris Blake wrote:
 I think I have fixed it now - feedback please.


   
 http://www.glyszc.cn/tours.html
 



2:17p

O.K. Firefox, Opera, Camino, SeaMonkey, IE/6/7/8. Validate the CSS (and 
markup).
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Re: [css-d] IE problem - floats won't align

2009-06-28 Thread Rod Castello



--- On Sun, 6/28/09, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:

From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE problem - floats won't align
To: Chris Blake ch...@3pointdesign.com
Cc: css discuss discuss css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 6:16 PM

Chris Blake wrote:
 I think I have fixed it now - feedback please.


   
 http://www.glyszc.cn/tours.html
     



2:17p

O.K. Firefox, Opera, Camino, SeaMonkey, IE/6/7/8. Validate the CSS (and 
markup).
___

This isn't related to your float problem, but I noticed that the background 
color that shows on your header image (just behind the upper rounded corners) 
doesn't match the body background color when I view it in Firefox 3, but 
matches in Safari 3. Why does this happen? Is there a way to correct it?
Rod Castello


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Re: [css-d] IE problem - floats won't align

2009-06-28 Thread Chris Blake


On 29/06/2009, at 3:53 AM, Rod Castello wrote:




 --- On Sun, 6/28/09, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com  
 wrote:

 From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com
 Subject: Re: [css-d] IE problem - floats won't align
 To: Chris Blake ch...@3pointdesign.com
 Cc: css discuss discuss css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 6:16 PM

 Chris Blake wrote:
 I think I have fixed it now - feedback please.



 http://www.glyszc.cn/tours.html




 2:17p

 O.K. Firefox, Opera, Camino, SeaMonkey, IE/6/7/8. Validate the CSS  
 (and
 markup).
 ___

 This isn't related to your float problem, but I noticed that the  
 background color that shows on your header image (just behind the  
 upper rounded corners) doesn't match the body background color when  
 I view it in Firefox 3, but matches in Safari 3. Why does this  
 happen? Is there a way to correct it?
 Rod Castello


in illustrator it's #66 but in safari i had to change bground to  
#5 to get a closer match. file type difference maybe? not had this  
problem before.


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Re: [css-d] IE problem - floats won't align

2009-06-28 Thread David Hucklesby
 On 29/06/2009, at 3:53 AM, Rod Castello wrote:
 
 
 This isn't related to your float problem, but I noticed that the 
 background color that shows on your header image (just behind the 
 upper rounded corners) doesn't match the body background color when
 I view it in Firefox 3, but matches in Safari 3. Why does this 
 happen? Is there a way to correct it? Rod Castello
 
Chris Blake responded:
 
 in illustrator it's #66 but in safari i had to change bground to 
 #5 to get a closer match. file type difference maybe? not had 
 this problem before.
 

This sounds like a problem with the color profile used by Illustrator.
See this article for an explanation:

http://www.gballard.net/psd/srgbforwww.html

Cordially,
David
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Re: [css-d] IE problem with menu

2009-02-05 Thread Kamil Saiyed
Try closing your li s in ul id=resourcesForList.


Kamil Saiyed
Rhapsody Solutions
Application Developer
281-668-9177


-Original Message-
From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org
[mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Jody Levinson
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:12 PM
To: CSS-D
Subject: [css-d] IE problem with menu

Hi all,

On this site: http://web536.fog.plainblack.net/ the menu on the left works
in FF but not IE7 or IE8.

Other pages work fine. Just not this one.

In IE7, I see the text [if lte IE 7]![endif] [else if lte IE 6]  
in the upper left and I'm assuming the problem lies there. I checked all the
other page templates and they all have the exact same code in that space:

!--[if lte IE 7]link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/styles/
mainIe.css media=screen /![endif]-- !--[if lte IE 6]link
rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/styles/ mainIe6.css media=screen
/![endif]--

I even repasted the block from a working page just in case there was some
stray character in there.

Any clues?

Thank you so much!

Jody

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Re: [css-d] IE problem with menu

2009-02-05 Thread Jody Levinson
I've looked at the source and it looks closed to me:

ul id=resourcesForList
lia href=/home/resources-for/prospectivestudentsProspective  
Students/a/li
lia href=/home/resources-for/parentsParents/a/li
lia href=/home/resources-for/alumniAlumni amp; Friends/a/li
lia href=/home/resources-for/visitorsVisitors/a/li
lia href=/home/resources-for/currentstudentsCurrentStudents/ 
a/li
lia href=/home/resources-for/facultyFaculty amp; Staff/a/li  
/ul

Are you seeing something different?

On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Kamil Saiyed wrote:

 Try closing your li s in ul id=resourcesForList.


 Kamil Saiyed
 Rhapsody Solutions
 Application Developer
 281-668-9177


 -Original Message-
 From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org
 [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Jody  
 Levinson
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:12 PM
 To: CSS-D
 Subject: [css-d] IE problem with menu

 Hi all,

 On this site: http://web536.fog.plainblack.net/ the menu on the left  
 works
 in FF but not IE7 or IE8.

 Other pages work fine. Just not this one.

 In IE7, I see the text [if lte IE 7]![endif] [else if lte IE 6]
 in the upper left and I'm assuming the problem lies there. I checked  
 all the
 other page templates and they all have the exact same code in that  
 space:

 !--[if lte IE 7]link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/ 
 styles/
 mainIe.css media=screen /![endif]-- !--[if lte IE 6]link
 rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/styles/ mainIe6.css  
 media=screen
 /![endif]--

 I even repasted the block from a working page just in case there was  
 some
 stray character in there.

 Any clues?

 Thank you so much!

 Jody

 --
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Re: [css-d] IE problem with menu

2009-02-05 Thread Jody Levinson
Thank you both. Oddly, the code I pasted below was an exact copy/paste  
of what I was seeing on view source, but I went in later and found the  
problem you were seeing. It seems fixed now.

Thanks again for your help.

Jody

On Feb 5, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Martyn Merrett wrote:

 What Kamil said is correct... this is a paste of the source:

 ul id=resourcesForList
 li
 a href=/home/resources-for/prospectivestudentsProspective  
 Students/a
 /li
 li
 a href=/home/resources-for/parentsParents/a
 /li
 [snip]

 You'll notice the li is not closed.
 FF doesn't seem to mind but IE does.

 ~Mx
 http://www.mxdx.co.uk



 2009/2/6 Jody Levinson j...@troutdream.com:
 I've looked at the source and it looks closed to me:

 ul id=resourcesForList
   lia href=/home/resources-for/ 
 prospectivestudentsProspective
 Students/a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/parentsParents/a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/alumniAlumni amp;  
 Friends/a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/visitorsVisitors/a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/ 
 currentstudentsCurrentStudents/
 a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/facultyFaculty amp;  
 Staff/a/li
 /ul

 Are you seeing something different?

 On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Kamil Saiyed wrote:

 Try closing your li s in ul id=resourcesForList.


 Kamil Saiyed
 Rhapsody Solutions
 Application Developer
 281-668-9177


 -Original Message-
 From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org
 [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Jody
 Levinson
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:12 PM
 To: CSS-D
 Subject: [css-d] IE problem with menu

 Hi all,

 On this site: http://web536.fog.plainblack.net/ the menu on the left
 works
 in FF but not IE7 or IE8.

 Other pages work fine. Just not this one.

 In IE7, I see the text [if lte IE 7]![endif] [else if lte IE 6]
 in the upper left and I'm assuming the problem lies there. I checked
 all the
 other page templates and they all have the exact same code in that
 space:

 !--[if lte IE 7]link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/
 styles/
 mainIe.css media=screen /![endif]-- !--[if lte IE 6]link
 rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/styles/ mainIe6.css
 media=screen
 /![endif]--

 I even repasted the block from a working page just in case there was
 some
 stray character in there.

 Any clues?

 Thank you so much!

 Jody

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Re: [css-d] IE problem with menu

2009-02-05 Thread Martyn Merrett
Yep I cleared my cache and it's corrected itself. Nice website by the way (:

~Mx
http://www.mxdx.co.uk



2009/2/6 Jody Levinson j...@troutdream.com:
 Thank you both. Oddly, the code I pasted below was an exact copy/paste
 of what I was seeing on view source, but I went in later and found the
 problem you were seeing. It seems fixed now.

 Thanks again for your help.

 Jody

 On Feb 5, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Martyn Merrett wrote:

 What Kamil said is correct... this is a paste of the source:

 ul id=resourcesForList
 li
 a href=/home/resources-for/prospectivestudentsProspective
 Students/a
 /li
 li
 a href=/home/resources-for/parentsParents/a
 /li
 [snip]

 You'll notice the li is not closed.
 FF doesn't seem to mind but IE does.

 ~Mx
 http://www.mxdx.co.uk



 2009/2/6 Jody Levinson j...@troutdream.com:
 I've looked at the source and it looks closed to me:

 ul id=resourcesForList
   lia href=/home/resources-for/
 prospectivestudentsProspective
 Students/a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/parentsParents/a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/alumniAlumni amp;
 Friends/a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/visitorsVisitors/a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/
 currentstudentsCurrentStudents/
 a/li
   lia href=/home/resources-for/facultyFaculty amp;
 Staff/a/li
 /ul

 Are you seeing something different?

 On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Kamil Saiyed wrote:

 Try closing your li s in ul id=resourcesForList.


 Kamil Saiyed
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 281-668-9177


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 [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Jody
 Levinson
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:12 PM
 To: CSS-D
 Subject: [css-d] IE problem with menu

 Hi all,

 On this site: http://web536.fog.plainblack.net/ the menu on the left
 works
 in FF but not IE7 or IE8.

 Other pages work fine. Just not this one.

 In IE7, I see the text [if lte IE 7]![endif] [else if lte IE 6]
 in the upper left and I'm assuming the problem lies there. I checked
 all the
 other page templates and they all have the exact same code in that
 space:

 !--[if lte IE 7]link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/
 styles/
 mainIe.css media=screen /![endif]-- !--[if lte IE 6]link
 rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/styles/ mainIe6.css
 media=screen
 /![endif]--

 I even repasted the block from a working page just in case there was
 some
 stray character in there.

 Any clues?

 Thank you so much!

 Jody

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem (naturally!)

2008-11-11 Thread Jonny Stephens
On 11 Nov 2008, at 08:58, wlb wrote:

 I have a graphic decoration at the bottom of each of the following  
 two pages
 and have used CSS margin-left to position them, but IE doesn't seem to
 recognize the margin and places the graphic on the left side of the  
 screen.
 I tried fiddling with the padding as well, but then everything got  
 very
 messed up.

 Here are the pages with problems:

 http://www.boletta.com/aau/book.html

 http://www.boletta.com/aau/type.html

 Here is the external stylesheet:

 http://www.boletta.com/aau/portfolio.css

I'm sure someone will be along to explain the reason for the  
ineffective margin but this should do the trick:

#ornament_3 {
background: transparent url(pix/ornament_3a.png) no-repeat scroll  
center 50%;
height:100px;
margin:0 auto;
}

and the same sort of thing for #ornament_2.

Regards

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem (naturally!)

2008-11-11 Thread Jonny Stephens

On 11 Nov 2008, at 09:37, Jonny Stephens wrote:

 On 11 Nov 2008, at 08:58, wlb wrote:

 I have a graphic decoration at the bottom of each of the following
 two pages
 and have used CSS margin-left to position them, but IE doesn't  
 seem to
 recognize the margin and places the graphic on the left side of the
 screen.
 I tried fiddling with the padding as well, but then everything got
 very
 messed up.

 Here are the pages with problems:

 http://www.boletta.com/aau/book.html

 http://www.boletta.com/aau/type.html

 Here is the external stylesheet:

 http://www.boletta.com/aau/portfolio.css

 I'm sure someone will be along to explain the reason for the
 ineffective margin but this should do the trick:

 #ornament_3 {
 background: transparent url(pix/ornament_3a.png) no-repeat scroll
 center 50%;
 height:100px;
 margin:0 auto;
 }


Oops... IE7 needs width too...

#ornament_3 {
background: transparent url(pix/ornament_3a.png) no-repeat scroll  
center 50%;
height: 100px;
margin: 0 auto;
width: 182px;
}

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Re: [css-d] IE problem with floating

2008-08-05 Thread French, Angela K (MHTG)
May I kindly suggest that you not use an image map for your navigation,
or is there a way to add alt attributes to an image map? If images are
turned off, or if your site visitor is using a screen reader, they will
not see your menu. 

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 I have a question:
 
 I am building a web site that has a background logo image, a 
 logo image fixed at the top to allow the text flow behind it 
 and then a left navigation bar as well. Problem is the left 
 nav bar doesn't show up correctly in IE. 
 Since both the nav bar (#menu) and the main (#main) body are 
 in columns 
 they are floated to the left. However, to give the nav bar 
 the correct look, I have had to use other positioning within 
 the #menu.
 
 The site can be found at www.astratechnologies.com/index.php 
 and the css is at www.astratechnologies.com/templateCSS.css.
 
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-31 Thread Alan Gresley
Ibrahim wrote:

 Thanks all, I'm really happy now :)
 
 anyway, I fixed the menu on IE6, but still not sure about IE7 coz I didn't
 test it on IE7
 I commented the old code, you can check the css file.
 moreover, firefox need the attribute float:left to display it correctly.
 I think it's not the correct way to the menu but I have no choice.
 link: http://www.ndaworld.org/

Seeing that you have are referring to Georg's rescue of IE.

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/iy/test_08_0330.html


You should actually be replying to him. Yes the fix works in FF, IE6, IE7. 
Ibrahim, what IE versions do have locally anyway?


 I think you got the  ?? ? ?? ? ?? because your computer doesn't support
 Arabic fonts, same issue applied to square things at the title (encoding)


No my computer shows the script correctly, my poor saving of that script caused 
the sequence of ??? ???. It really doesn't matter because the Arabic script 
makes as much sense to me as . My understanding is poor since the Arabic 
script runs from from right to left but I can not tell if the glyphs in the 
words are 1234 or 4321 order. Both glyphs directions can apply to right to left 
text. As a guide for the future, those seeking help with pages with 
bidirectional text. It would help to mention which direction the glyph run.

You have used a lot of text-align to arrange alignment of the script to cater 
for IE problems but this is what the dir=rtl should be doing anyway. Look 
where the various browsers put the vertical scrollbar.


 Also, what are you using to save that page? IE/win (any version) is of
  no use.
 
 Sorry, I didn't get it.


This question was what Georg asked me, not what I asked you. The answer is that 
I just copied your source code from the source in FF and pasted it into my text 
editor (works OK with Latin script :-). Georg would have saved it in Opera 
another way which preserved the script. I have a new template just coded in 
Notepad.


 Thanks All again.
 
 any idea about the page center problem?
 
 Ibrahim


Yes it is this.

body {
/* width:950px; DELETE */
}
div.center {
/* text-align: center; DELETE */
}

div#wrapper {
margin-right: auto;
margin-left: auto;
width:950px; /* ADD */
}

and in the HTML.

div class=center align=center 

Delete this class center div from the source and remove it closing tag (just 
before /html). This div is automatically added by a MS authoring tool which 
has also added the tables for layout. I presume that you have taken over the 
maintenance of the site and in doing so you have inherited a page that was 
coded for IE (like in the year 1997).


 I'm still not debugging for IE8, should I ?


Don't bother fixing it for IE8. It's MS job is to fix IE8.

If you have a standalone, for amusement just view Georg fix or my new template 
and watch some weirdness like peekaboo activity. Double click on the content 
text and what it jump. Hhover here or there and move small windows (100px by 
100px) over various parts of the page. It shows all the symptoms of the 
peekaboo bug [1]. Yes it still present but just triggered differently. I 
attempting to correlate this with those trident rendering bands [2].


My new template shows the page content centered in all browsers apart from IE5. 
IE6 and IE7 are now all fixed up. The problem was this.

#area {
padding: 0;
/* width:100%; DELETE hasLayout [3] trigger */
}


http://css-class.com/x/ndaw/index3.htm


The HTML in my template has striped the class center div and all tables from 
the code. The CSS embedded in the header has been largely reduced and all 
text-aligns have be remove from the layout divs. I have only remove a useless 
(table div.center text-align) IE skeleton from a already strong frame. I have 
also unfrozen the font size so now you can resize the text in all browsers.

What Georg has done you can use now. My new template is a based that you may 
wish to use at a later date but before doing so you first must understand why 
Georg's rescue and my reconstruction are different. The former is a traditional 
doctype and the later is a strict doctype. Both are valid. One is coded for IE 
and the other is a attempt at best practices.

BTW, read the last link on having layout over and over again until it sinks 
in.

Isn't CSS fun!


[1] http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
[2] http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/renderingbands.htm
[3] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html


Alan

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Katherine Coynor
It looks okay to me.  Could you be a bit more specific about the issues
you're having with it?

Kat

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Ibrahim Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello all,

 I have problem with top menu on both IE67.
 the link: http://www.ndaworld.org/
 the css is validated with no errors and look fine on Opera  FF.


 I'm stuck ... any idea?

 Thanks in advanced,
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Ibrahim Y
On IE7 only one menu item appear, on IE6 the items appears in vertical.
you can check the top menu on FF  IE to see the difference.

*a new problem, *although I use center for the body  the main div#center
the body is centered.

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Katherine Coynor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It looks okay to me.  Could you be a bit more specific about the issues
 you're having with it?

 Kat

 On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Ibrahim Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  hello all,
 
  I have problem with top menu on both IE67.
  the link: http://www.ndaworld.org/
  the css is validated with no errors and look fine on Opera  FF.
 
 
  I'm stuck ... any idea?
 
  Thanks in advanced,
  Ibrahim
 

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Katherine Coynor
I see.  I hadn't noticed that before.

I think part of the problem might be that you have the display parameter in
the mainlevel-nav class set to block.  If my understanding of CSS is
correct, block ensures that there is a line break before and after the
element.

What I would suggest you do is that you modify that parameter from block
to inline and that you also remove the class properties from the links and
insert them into the li tags.

I'll start looking at the new problem now.

Kat

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Ibrahim Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On IE7 only one menu item appear, on IE6 the items appears in vertical.
 you can check the top menu on FF  IE to see the difference.

 *a new problem, *although I use center for the body  the main div#center
 the body is centered.


 On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Katherine Coynor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  It looks okay to me.  Could you be a bit more specific about the issues
  you're having with it?
 
  Kat
 
  On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Ibrahim Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   hello all,
  
   I have problem with top menu on both IE67.
   the link: http://www.ndaworld.org/
   the css is validated with no errors and look fine on Opera  FF.
  
  
   I'm stuck ... any idea?
  
   Thanks in advanced,
   Ibrahim
  
 

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Katherine Coynor
Okay, with the new problem, you might consider adding a text-align:center
parameter to your table.contentpaneopen style.

Kat

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Ibrahim Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On IE7 only one menu item appear, on IE6 the items appears in vertical.
 you can check the top menu on FF  IE to see the difference.

 *a new problem, *although I use center for the body  the main div#center
 the body is centered.


 On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Katherine Coynor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  It looks okay to me.  Could you be a bit more specific about the issues
  you're having with it?
 
  Kat
 
  On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Ibrahim Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   hello all,
  
   I have problem with top menu on both IE67.
   the link: http://www.ndaworld.org/
   the css is validated with no errors and look fine on Opera  FF.
  
  
   I'm stuck ... any idea?
  
   Thanks in advanced,
   Ibrahim
  
 

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Alan Gresley
Ibrahim Y
 Date: Sat, March 29, 2008 2:31 pm
 To: CSS Discussion css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 
 hello all,
 
 I have problem with top menu on both IE67.
 the link: http://www.ndaworld.org/
 the css is validated with no errors and look fine on Opera  FF.
 
 
 I'm stuck ... any idea?
 
 Thanks in advanced,
 Ibrahim


M.. Debugging really became interesting. It's what you don't notice 
initially that is important.


1. http://css-class.com/test/images/temp/ie7-ie6.png
2. http://css-class.com/test/images/temp/ie8.png
3. http://css-class.com/test/images/temp/ie8-peekaboo1.png
4. http://css-class.com/test/images/temp/ie8-peekaboo2.png
5. http://css-class.com/test/images/temp/ie8-peekaboo3.png


The first image shows a screenshot of IE6 below and IE7 above. What is apparent 
in the beginning in that IE6 and IE8 is screwing with text direction. Notice 
how IE6 shows the scroll bar on the left. I do believed that you need to be 
using the HTML attribute dir [1] a bit more. Your source shows just.

html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en-gb lang=en-gb 
dir=rtl 


Some CSS.

#whitebox div {
text-align: right;
}

You have many text-aligns to support IE6 bug behavior but wouldn't this be 
better giving IE7 and all other browsers the effect with attributes and . I 
don't quite understand the bugs with IE6 but this browser doesn't support non 
English speaking users who needs to read script from right to left. I would 
recommend these resources.

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/02/15/532708.aspx
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2008Mar/0193.html
http://rishida.net/


[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/dirlang.html#adef-dir

I will keeping checking the bug.


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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Alan Gresley
I wrote:

 the link: http://www.ndaworld.org/

 M.. Debugging really became interesting. It's what you don't notice 
 initially that is important.
 
 
 3. http://css-class.com/test/images/temp/ie8-peekaboo1.png
 4. http://css-class.com/test/images/temp/ie8-peekaboo2.png
 5. http://css-class.com/test/images/temp/ie8-peekaboo3.png


I failed to mention the peekaboo bug behavior in IE8?


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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Alan Gresley
Ibrahim Y wrote:

 Katherine Coynor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: CSS Discussion css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 
 On IE7 only one menu item appear, on IE6 the items appears in vertical.
 you can check the top menu on FF  IE to see the difference.
 
 *a new problem, *although I use center for the body  the main div#center
 the body is centered.


This is where you erring. In IE5, IE6 and IE7 if you use the property 
text-align, though this should only effect inline elements and text nodes, 
these versions of IE will use text-align also on block level elements. You have 
used this bug to structure your page but this is no way to emulate right to 
left text. I would not even bother supporting IE6 is any styling but rather 
serve up IE6 a basic styled page. Lock that browser out completely. Let IE7 and 
all the other good browsers use the more standard approach for right to left 
text.

Here's a demo of the peekaboo bug in IE8.

http://css-class.com/test/bugs/ie/8/rtl-script-peekapoo.htm

FYI, I have been trying to debug your page for hours. You are mixing in table 
layout with divs with way to many IDs and classes. This is only needed for IE5, 
IE6 and IE7 anyway. I am trying to locate elements and text. When I save your 
page off-line. I see this.

 ??? ?? ???
?? ??? ?

And when I search your CSS I finding.

div.module_menu ul li a:link, div.module_menu ul li a:visited
div.module_menu div div div
#leftcolumn ul.menu li#current ul li a:hover, #rightcolumn ul.menu li#current 
ul li a:hover

I still can not isolate what selectors I need to look for to find the menu that 
is broken. All this heavy CSS is only needed for IE5, IE6 and IE7 anyway. Since 
the script you use makes as much sense to me as ? I have the added 
complication in debuging since my native language is English. I will keep on 
debugging but can you please tell me what to look for? :-)

BTW, The mission impossible debug sessions I find entertaining. :-)


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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ibrahim Y wrote:
 On IE7 only one menu item appear, on IE6 the items appears in 
 vertical. you can check the top menu on FF  IE to see the 
 difference.

 the link: http://www.ndaworld.org/

Focusing only on the problematic horizontal menu.

Firefox 2.x is having serious problems with such a construction, so its
rendering is of no use for comparison. Problems corrected in Fx3b, and
release of Firefox 3 is not all that far away. Worth waiting for, I think.

Run this example...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/iy/test_08_0330.html
...through Fx3, Safari 3.1, Opera 9.x, IE6 and IE7, and you'll see a
better line-up of that horizontal menu.

Removed an unnecessary td, and styled the list inline. I didn't bother
hacking Fx2 back in since that version is so broken.



Alan,

look for /* horizontal pill menu */ in 'template.CSS', and the #pillmenu
ul/li.

Also, what are you using to save that page? IE/win (any version) is of
no use.

regards
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Alan Gresley
Ibrahim Y wrote:

 hello all,
 
 I have problem with top menu on both IE67.
 the link: http://www.ndaworld.org/
 the css is validated with no errors and look fine on Opera  FF.
 
 
 I'm stuck ... any idea?
 
 Thanks in advanced,
 Ibrahim


Hi Ibrahim, I have threaded your code to pieces and rip out a lot of CSS. 
Slight bugs now in IE6 and IE7 where the sidebar is clearing the content. IE8 
is beginning to look like the good browsers but something is happening which is 
weird. Bidirectional text is broken. There is still peekaboo activity in IE8. 
It's just a initial template. MS can fix there browser.

http://css-class.com/x/ndaw/index2.htm

I have having trouble though since I not use to coding bidirectional text. The 
menus seem to be looking normal in all versions of IE. Please note the below 
and similar in the HTML.

divspan dir=ltrFriday, 28 March 2008 19:27/span/div


Can anyone help me understand why the the sidebar is clearing the content in 
IE6 and IE7?


I have butchered the encoding for the title of the page which is showing 
squares (but the tabs are showing the correct script). Jukka can you please 
help me with this (my attempts are in the header area and html element). Would 
I need to use these ISOs [1]?

I will give this a rest now since I have gotten somewhat close.

I can somewhat understand what authors coding in bidirectional text have to 
deal with when coding for IE. I can actually see where half of the web broken 
in IE. :-)


[1] http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp?order=reference_nameletter=a

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Alan Gresley
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:


 Alan,
 
 look for /* horizontal pill menu */ in 'template.CSS', and the #pillmenu
 ul/li.


I eventually found it. :-)


 Also, what are you using to save that page? IE/win (any version) is of
 no use.
 
 regards
   Georg
 -- 
 http://www.gunlaug.no


I don't understand the question. Which page? I presume the IE8 bug demo. I save 
the page in NoteTab and uploaded. Did I do something wrong with the meta? The 
traditional doctype reflects the code. I never save anything in IE.


Alan

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Menu

2008-03-30 Thread Ibrahim Y
Thanks all, I'm really happy now :)

anyway, I fixed the menu on IE6, but still not sure about IE7 coz I didn't
test it on IE7
I commented the old code, you can check the css file.
moreover, firefox need the attribute float:left to display it correctly.
I think it's not the correct way to the menu but I have no choice.

I'm still not debugging for IE8, should I ?


FYI, I have been trying to debug your page for hours. You are mixing in
 table layout with divs with way to many IDs and classes. This is only needed
 for IE5, IE6 and IE7 anyway. I am trying to locate elements and text. When I
 save your page off-line. I see this.

  ??? ?? ???
 ?? ??? ?

I think you got the  ?? ? ?? ? ?? because your computer doesn't support
Arabic fonts, same issue applied to square things at the title (encoding)

Also, what are you using to save that page? IE/win (any version) is of
 no use.

Sorry, I didn't get it.

Thanks All again.

any idea about the page center problem?

Ibrahim

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Alan Gresley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:


  Alan,
 
  look for /* horizontal pill menu */ in 'template.CSS', and the #pillmenu
  ul/li.


 I eventually found it. :-)


  Also, what are you using to save that page? IE/win (any version) is of
  no use.
 
  regards
Georg
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 I don't understand the question. Which page? I presume the IE8 bug demo. I
 save the page in NoteTab and uploaded. Did I do something wrong with the
 meta? The traditional doctype reflects the code. I never save anything in
 IE.


 Alan

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem with Positioning

2008-01-28 Thread Highpowered
Lyn Willaims wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The following page I created has problems in Internet Explorer. The  
 header of the web page shifts right but works fine in all other  
 browsers. I can't find a bug fix, does anybody have any suggestions?
 
 The url is: www.theasacademy.co.uk

Have you tried changing the text-align:center declared in #wrapper to 
text-align:left?

- HP

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem with positioning

2008-01-28 Thread Jim Davis
Please include the URL to the page in question. - JD

On Jan 28, 2008 2:44 AM, Lyn Willaims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi,

 The following page I created has problems in Internet Explorer. The
 header of the web page shifts right but works fine in all other
 browsers. I can't find a bug fix, does anybody have any suggestions?

 Many Thanks, Lyn Williams
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Re: [css-d] IE problem - removing line under navigation - any tips?

2007-10-12 Thread Jorge Rumoroso
Hello Lucas.

Delete border-bottom: 2px gray; in your CSS (line 131).

www.niquelao.net - niquelando la web

On 10/12/07, lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello

 I was wondering if there is something obvious I am missing.



 if anyone has time, could they check out
 http://lucazoid.com/jt



 in firefox, it looks ok


 but in IE, I have a 2px thick gray line running under the navigation
 buttons at the top of the page.


 I would like to get rid of this lines but cant see anything in my css
 which is making them appear.

 the css is at
 http://lucazoid.com/jt/resources/css/style.css


 any suggestions would be most appreciated!



 Cheers

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Re: [css-d] IE problem and liquid layout

2007-07-22 Thread David Hucklesby
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:51:55 -0700 (PDT), JGardner wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a major problem with a page appearing correctly in Firefox but not IE 
 6.  You
 can see the page here - 
 http://webtech.tstc.edu/students/gardnerj/IMED2311/UF2/index.htm

Hi Jennifer,

If you increase the font size in Firefox (Ctrl +) you will see what
I am seeing in Opera and, apart from the displaced #news DIV, the same
is true of IE7. That's because factory settings on my notebook (120 DPI)
makes the default medium font size 25% larger in IE and Opera.

Your design seems to me to be over-constrained. This is a common
problem when major structural elements are positioned absolutely.

I suggest you look at some float layouts that self-adjust to the amount
of content. The css-d Wiki[1] is a good place to start. Max Design[2]
has some samples and good tutorials; if you learn better by example,
Layout Gala[3] may help as well.


[1] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=TwoColumnLayouts
[2] http://maxdesign.com.au/presentation/page_layouts/
[3] http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/

Cordially,
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem with Son of Suckerfish and form select fields

2007-06-17 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 (RE-POST)
 
 Come on CSS wizards, someone must have an answer to this.
 
 Works (poorly with JavaScript) here:
 
 http://www.linkhomes2000.co.uk/trials/tryagain-index-3.php
 
 Problem here:
 
 http://www.linkhomes2000.co.uk/helper/tryagain-index-4.php
 
 Question how to resolve this, you can all see the current answer is not 
 really acceptable.
 
 Having all you form disappear when you MouseOver the main menu is not good?
 
 Please help me find an acceptable solution. Must be CSS
 
 
 David G)
  

I assume index-3 is the problem page, since the forms are disappearing 
here on menu hover. Would validating, especially validating the forms, help?

Another problem is the jump on hover. The entire pages jumps to the left 
  if the menu or any link is hovered. Quirky percentages on margins. 
Don't use horizontal margin percentage values, or double wrap the 
elements that have these margins.

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem with Son of Suckerfish and form select fields

2007-06-17 Thread Ingo Chao

I think the problem is that the select is a windowed object in IE7. 
Search for select windowed object, or,
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/01/17/514076.aspx

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] IE problem (what else)

2007-05-03 Thread ~davidLaakso
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 Hi,

 If you have sometime could you please take a look here:

 http://www.linkhomes2000.co.uk/trials/basic-index.php

 David G)
 -

   
I think all versions of IE have a problem with  the use of percent for 
anything other than  primary width bearing containers. Try maintaining 
the percent width of #content, and #sidebar, and readjust the percent 
value for the margin-left of #sidebar. Set  #wrapper to 100%. And delete 
the percent padding, percent margins, and percent widths on everything 
else. This  /may/ at least open it rail to rail in IE 6 and 7 and 
compliant browsers; and, give you a common ground start point.
I hope someone else will be able to provide a simple fix. Personally, 
I'd think about starting  over with a clean sheet with one very simple 
style sheet-- positioning only the two blocks, the header and the footer 
to work cross-browser before entertaining more. This layout 
http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala30.html might work as a base.
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem - Not Showing Left Column

2007-02-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Matthew Stoneback wrote:
 All that appears to be missing is an image which completed the 
 patch on the upper left side of the page (placed in the left 
 column).

 HTML Page: http://www.eddysound.com/epso/

Designer's coding-errors:
- Wrong names on the IE-fixes.
- Forgotten space between selectors in the '* html' hack.
- Ending last IE-fix with ':' instead of ';'.

Corrected IE hacks...

/*** IE6 Fix ***/
* html #header_left {
left: 324px;
}

/*** IE6 Fix ***/
* html #leftRail {
left: 142px;
}


Also, you should add...

#header_container div img {display: block;}

...to save IE6 from descenders and 'auto-expansion' bugs.



Note that this positioning method is handled extremely messy by IE6 when
browser-window is made narrower.

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Re: [css-d] IE problem Negative Margin - Fx 2 Mac first-letter misalignment

2007-01-09 Thread Ingo Chao
Nic Pulford wrote:

 I have a test page http://gamma.hostaga.com/~nic/Newspapers/Test3.htm which
 works fine (acceptably) in most browsers but not IE, in IE 7 the first
 character of the text disappears. In IE 6 you get and extra line. By the way
 I do not expect the 'first-child' to work in IE 6. It is designed to be best
 in FF 2.


I don't see the extra line problem in IE6.

In IE7,
  .art_cnt {zoom:1;}
provides some stability [1] for the first-letter.

But in Firefox 2 (Mac), the first letter is misaligned (too low), but 
not in Fx 2 (PC). Others have probably more info about that.


Ingo

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Re: [css-d] IE problem Negative Margin - Fx 2 Mac first-letter misalignment

2007-01-09 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jan 9, 2007, at 9:29 PM, Ingo Chao wrote:

 But in Firefox 2 (Mac), the first letter is misaligned (too low), but
 not in Fx 2 (PC). Others have probably more info about that.

It is a bug...
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294733
In some cases, Firefox PC/Linux suffer from similar issues, but I  
forgot the details.

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Re: [css-d] ie problem with text going over graphic

2007-01-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Melinda Odom wrote:

 How do I fix this ie problem with the text being spread out over the 
 flower? http://www.designhosting.biz/newsite/intro.html

The 'hasLyout'[1] bug (yes, it is a bug) is taking over, triggered by
the width on #mainContent. The result is that the entire #mainContent is
lining up alongside #introLinks, thus is shifted 230px over to the
right side - in IE/win. So, #blank also ends up 230px too far to the
right, and the paragraphs are 230px too wide.

There's no easy way to avoid that IE bug without adding more elements,
so you may as well play along with it.

Changing styles on #mainContent to...

#mainContent {
font-size: 11px;
line-height: 1.5;
color: #FF;
margin-top: 40px;
width: 470px;
float: left;
}

...will correct the width to a more suitable one, and make other
browsers line up that element like IE6 does, but in accordance with
standards and not depending on bugs.

BTW: no need to have a background-image on #blank - not even a
transparent one. It'll stay transparent anyway.

regards
Georg

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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2006-12-28 Thread Hari Kumar G
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:47:50 +0530, KJ'[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Hi,

 Hope you all had a good x-mas. My problem is I can't figure out why the
 images are being cut off (the nav that is) and it looks fine in FF and
 Opera. Any suggestion appreciated. http://geekministry.com/test/

Adding the following to external.js file after line 41 i.e.  
z_IMG.style.left=0;
z_IMG.style.top=0;

would help this work.

Hari.


 Thanks
 Kim
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Re: [css-d] IE problem with dropdown menu

2006-09-04 Thread Bradley Wright
Hi Lyn,

Try these styles:

.mainlink{
display:block;
width:128px;
background: #98cb00;
font-weight:bold;
font-size: 90%;
color:#FF;
text-decoration:none;
padding: 6px;
margin: 3px 0 0 0;
}

#submenu_1 /* 1-4 */{
width: 140px;
padding: 0;
margin: 3px 0 0 0;
background: #E6FFCC;
list-style:none;
}


Note that I've removed the float: left; code from your original--I'm not 
sure what it was there for, and it certainly didn't help in IE. I also 
moved the margin from the bottom of the buttons to the top, because when 
the lists were appearing it was creating some weird margin behaviour.
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Re: [css-d] IE problem showing border-top for an ancor

2006-09-03 Thread Enrico Teotti
I accidentally fall to this:
http://ndesign-studio.com/
it has thoose links floating as block element so it get the top-border
working in IE too, it's a way out... but I'm still wondering if are
there any other ones... :-)
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Re: [css-d] IE problem showing border-top for an ancor

2006-09-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Enrico Teotti wrote:
 I accidentally fall to this: http://ndesign-studio.com/ it has thoose
  links floating as block element so it get the top-border working in 
 IE too, it's a way out... but I'm still wondering if are there any 
 other ones... :-)

Sure. Since 'float: left/right' is one of the many 'hasLayout'[1]
triggers that IE' buggy rendering-engine rely on, then one of the other
triggers are sure to work too - but may have negative side-effects.

The addition of 'position: relative' (which does not act as a
'hasLayout' trigger, but more as a reminder that IE is supposed to
'stack' and 'paint' an element properly) usually do the trick on its own
for inline-elements.

regards
Georg

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem

2006-08-26 Thread Jeff Chastain

Okay, this gets even better.  If I scroll the window such that the title bar
scrolls off the page, then scroll back ... it magically appears again.  Am I
loosing my mind or is IE really this quirky?

Thanks
-- Jeff


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Subject: [css-d] IE Problem

I am not sure how to better describe this as I really cannot figure out what
is going on.  I have a problem where a block of content is simply
disappearing in IE, but displays just fine in Firefox.
 
The site is http://www.kcoutlet.com.  The home page is split into 2 columns
and the title bar of the top box in the left column is simply disappearing.
If I change the order of the boxes, the title bar of whichever box is on top
will disappear.  I am using the NiftyCorners script to round the boxes, but
removing it has not effect.
 
Any ideas - this is really baffling me?
 
Thanks
-- Jeff
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem

2006-08-26 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Jeff Chastain [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Am I loosing my mind or is IE really this quirky?

You're not losing your mind, it's IE.

  I have a problem where a block of content is simply
disappearing in IE, but displays just fine in Firefox.
 
The site is http://www.kcoutlet.com.  

Check out the following links and see if they have any help for your problem.

http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=C37E0

~holly 
 
   
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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2006-05-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
mark brailsford wrote:
 I have tried many things and have failed to make question 2.2 on this
  survey to look properly in IE. It looks like I want it to in 
 Firefox.
 
 
 http://www.facilityplanners.com/survey/_common/v6/genSurvey.aspx?p=/survey/ucr/s2/
  What the heck am I doing wrong?

I have no idea :-) but adding...

.optdiv {clear: none;}

...seems to work in favor of a more or less identical look in Firefox
1.5.0.3 and IE6.
The fact that Opera 9beta position things like IE6 - before and after
that addition - might give you a clue.

Note: too much garbage above doctype, so we're dealing with 'quirks
mode' here.

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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2006-05-29 Thread mark brailsford
Solved it myself. I had a clear all in another selector.

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Re: [css-d] IE problem using graphic as underline Article updated !

2006-05-13 Thread francky
francky wrote:

Article/tutorial Fun links in css (Underline with IE-proof home made 
text-decoration):
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/imaging/fun-links.html
... and don't laugh!  ;-) 
  

I asked it, so I got it...
Els wrote me within an hour:

 :-)I tried not to, but on a developer's IE with image caching off, 
 it just looks funny the way the images line up on every hover :-)

 Anyway, I saw your 2 remarks at the bottom of the page, and I think 
 you might wanna add a third one:
 It isn't a good idea accessibility wise, since for people who surf 
 with images off and css enabled, there's no indication at all that 
 that text is actually a link. I think this method should be combined 
 with some other form of styling on the text maybe?

Made a point! Weak defense: the same issue is in the ALA article, but it 
is masked over there. [1]
I figured out that just canceling the a { text-decoration: none; } is 
enough (and a third remark is not needed).
See the update:
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/imaging/fun-links.html#accessibility

Thanks go to Els,
Greetings,
francky

[1] The underline is gone with the: a { text-decoration: none; } in the 
article.css, but by accident it is coming back via the general ALA 
stylesheet base.css: a { border-bottom: 1px solid #555;}.

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Re: [css-d] IE problem using graphic as underline Solution in New Article

2006-05-12 Thread francky
francky wrote:

Hi all,
Just figured out a workaround, but it's too late now for making a good 
looking description / testpage. Promise: within a few days!

francky

Here we are.
Article/tutorial Fun links in css (Underline with IE-proof home made 
text-decoration):
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/imaging/fun-links.html

... and don't laugh! ;-)

Cheers,
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Re: [css-d] IE problem using graphic as underline

2006-05-09 Thread Micky Hulse
David McFarland wrote:
 Is there a workaround for this?

Hehe, I was just working on the same thing... funny you mention it cause 
now I may hold-off on implementing.

Anyway, a good place to look on ALA for more info is the comments 
section for the articles:

http://snipurl.com/q8xf

I noticed in the first few pages several people ask the same question.

Hth,
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Re: [css-d] IE problem using graphic as underline

2006-05-09 Thread francky
Micky Hulse wrote:

David McFarland wrote:
  

Is there a workaround for this?


Hehe, I was just working on the same thing... funny you mention it cause 
now I may hold-off on implementing.

Anyway, a good place to look on ALA for more info is the comments 
section for the articles:

http://snipurl.com/q8xf

I noticed in the first few pages several people ask the same question.

Hth,
Micky
  

Hi all,
Just figured out a workaround, but it's too late now for making a good 
looking description / testpage. Promise: within a few days!

francky

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Re: [css-d] IE problem using graphic as underline

2006-05-09 Thread Micky Hulse
francky wrote:
 Just figured out a workaround, but it's too late now for making a good 
 looking description / testpage. Promise: within a few days!

I am looking forward to seeing your results!  :D

Thanks for sharing Francky!

Cheers,
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Re: [css-d] IE problem, floating inside an absolute

2006-03-30 Thread Kate Shorey - Comcast
Hi James,

Because your main content div is absolutely-positioned, the footer ignores 
it.
I would guess that either by removing the absolute on that which you wanted 
as the parent, or by possibly adding a relative position to the footer this 
would work. Give it a try, let me know.
-- 
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 Hi,

 Am trying to float a footer in an absolute positioned maincontent div.
 Problem in IE is when I apply width 100% to footer. Instead of being 100%
 width of maincontent parent, it's much wider and extends maincontent off 
 the
 screen. Is there a fix? Can someone point me in the right direction?

 Thanks,
 James
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Re: [css-d] IE problem with rounded boxes and bottom margin...

2006-02-16 Thread Thomas -Balu- Walter
No one?

Is it too simple or too complicated? :-/

On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 10:50:44PM +0100, Thomas -Balu- Walter wrote:
 I am having a problem with weird IE behaviour (guessed that, huh?) when
 playing with rounded corners. 
 
 http://www.b-a-l-u.de/PG/stuff/border_problem/

[...]
 
 The problematic area is the #f00 one. Does anyone have a hint how to
 avoid that or what causes it? 

Why does the IE expand the div and does not put a margin below, but
inside?

 Balu
PS: The #f00 one at the bottom of course
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Re: [css-d] IE problem with rounded boxes and bottom margin...

2006-02-16 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Thomas -Balu- Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 http://www.b-a-l-u.de/PG/stuff/border_problem/

 The problematic area is the #f00 one. Does anyone have a hint how to
 avoid that or what causes it? 

IE6 needs layout [1] on the containing div. Probably the easiest thing to do, 
at least for your example, it to add {position: relative;} on the div. 

.sidebox { /* top left corner */
background: #f00 url(images/border_tl_c9d3de.gif) no-repeat left top;
margin-bottom: 20px;
position: relative; /*  */
}

If this causes problems within your overall layout, you may need some other 
method of invoking layout and hiding it from other browsers, such as the holly 
hack.

I hope that helps,

~holly 

[1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html 
 
   
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem

2005-10-30 Thread Michael ORourke
Remove - background-color : #FF; - from #container.

Michael

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Subject: [css-d] IE Problem


 Dear CSS Discuss

 I am sure this has been covered before but after many attempts to try
 and fix I now seek help.

 http://www.viewnewmedia.com/newid/english/home.php is the page in
 question. It displays as it should in Firefox but IE doesnt play ball.
 The header height is expanded - not sure if it is a height issue or a
 margin issue..

 I may have missed something really obvious here but any pointers are
 much appreciated.

 Thanks
 Chris




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Re: [css-d] ie problem

2005-10-27 Thread matt andrews
On 27/10/05, Luca Tebaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi at all
 i have a little proble in ie whit this layout
 http://utenti.unife.it/luca.tebaldi/prove/test/

 in the top have a margin between a float div and a centra div... why??
 thank's a lot
   Luca

 PS i hate IE!!!


Ciao Luca,

Two things:

1. add a DOCTYPE to the very top of your HTML document, like this:

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;

2. use absolute positioning for the edge graphics rather than floats:

#portal-top
{
position: relative;
height: 115px;
}

#angolo-alto-sx
{
background: 
url(http://utenti.unife.it/luca.tebaldi/prove/test/style/portal-top-left3.JPG)
top no-repeat;
width: 18px;
height: 105px;
position: absolute;
left: 0;
top:0;
}

#angolo-alto-dx
{
background: 
url(http://utenti.unife.it/luca.tebaldi/prove/test/style/portal-top-right3.JPG)
top no-repeat;
width: 18px;
height: 105px;
position: absolute;
right: 0;
top:0;
}

#centro-alto
{
background: 
url(http://utenti.unife.it/luca.tebaldi/prove/test/style/portal-top-center3.JPG)
top repeat-x;
height: 115px;
}

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Re: [css-d] ie problem

2005-10-27 Thread David Dorward
On 27/10/05, matt andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1. add a DOCTYPE to the very top of your HTML document, like this:

 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;

I'd strongly advise against using XHTML (which has a large number of
gotchas) and Transitional (which includes large numbers of elements
and attributes that should not be used, and only a couple which might
be useful ... and then only very rarely).

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
   http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;

... is almost certainly a better bet.

Once you specify a Doctype, authors should make use of
http://validator.w3.org/ to check that their document conforms to the
spec (at least as far as it can - the DTD can't express the entire
spec, but that doesn't stop the validator being a useful tool. (Any
more then a spell checker isn't useful if it can't tell you you've
used their when the correct word was there).

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Re: [css-d] ie problem

2005-10-27 Thread Christian Montoya
 I'd strongly advise against using XHTML

Really? I detest. HTML 4.01 is so last season.

One more vote for using XHTML:

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;

Put it at the top, and then treat yourself to a nice dinner.

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Re: [css-d] IE problem -- Floats, maybe?

2005-10-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Barbara Dozetos wrote:


http://www.pcc.com/welcometest.html


img.pedspecific, img.supportemma {position: relative; }
...will make them visible in IE/win

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Re: [css-d] IE problem -- Floats, maybe?

2005-10-10 Thread Barbara Dozetos

That's the ticket!  Thanks a million.

Barb

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:


img.pedspecific, img.supportemma {position: relative; }
...will make them visible in IE/win

Georg

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem (with valid code)

2005-09-07 Thread Schalk

Jon

Give this a try:
#leftContainer ul {
   margin:0;
   padding:0;
   list-style:none;
}
#leftContainer ul li {
   text-align:right;
   margin-left: -28px
   margin-right: 6px;
}


Jon Stephenson wrote:


I have removed everything extra from the code it will now validate and it
still having a problem in IE here is the link to the new test file. I still
have an extra space under each list item in my nav now the only thing on the
test page is the nav I have removed all other elements.
http://www.shi-ni.com/nav.htm

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RE: [css-d] IE Problem (with valid code)

2005-09-07 Thread Pringle, Ron

 I have removed everything extra from the code it will now 
 validate and it
 still having a problem in IE here is the link to the new test 
 file. I still
 have an extra space under each list item in my nav now the 
 only thing on the
 test page is the nav I have removed all other elements.
 http://www.shi-ni.com/nav.htm

Jon-

add display:inline; to your #leftContainer li and move your
text-align:right; to #leftContainer li a.

That should fix it.

You could also simply eliminate the whitespace in your sourcecode between
each li item. This will also eliminate it.

I don't recall the exact reasons for this bug. Perhaps someone else can
chime in on the why portion.

Regards,
Ron

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Re: [css-d] IE Problem (with valid code)

2005-09-07 Thread Jon Stephenson
Taking out the line breaks between the list items worked but this code is
going to be generated by a cms and it has to put each one on its own line is
there any other way to fix it?


On 9/7/05 1:14 PM, Pringle, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I have removed everything extra from the code it will now
 validate and it
 still having a problem in IE here is the link to the new test
 file. I still
 have an extra space under each list item in my nav now the
 only thing on the
 test page is the nav I have removed all other elements.
 http://www.shi-ni.com/nav.htm
 
 Jon-
 
 add display:inline; to your #leftContainer li and move your
 text-align:right; to #leftContainer li a.
 
 That should fix it.
 
 You could also simply eliminate the whitespace in your sourcecode between
 each li item. This will also eliminate it.
 
 I don't recall the exact reasons for this bug. Perhaps someone else can
 chime in on the why portion.
 
 Regards,
 Ron
 
 



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RE: [css-d] IE Problem (with valid code)

2005-09-07 Thread Pringle, Ron
 Taking out the line breaks between the list items worked but 
 this code is
 going to be generated by a cms and it has to put each one on 
 its own line is
 there any other way to fix it?
 
  add display:inline; to your #leftContainer li and move your
  text-align:right; to #leftContainer li a.
  
  That should fix it.

Jon-

Did you try the inline fix?

add display:inline; to your #leftContainer li and move your
text-align:right; to #leftContainer li a.

That fixed it on my local copy of your page.

Ron
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Re: [css-d] IE problem: gap before background image after div and before table

2005-08-05 Thread Matthew Ohlman

Andrew Mason wrote:


Hi,

Anyone know why I'm having this problem with IE?

http://www.pandamouth.org/simplikate/

At the top of the page, after the header and before the background  
image in the main part of the page there is a little gap.  You can  
tell because the border, which is part of the background image, is  
broken.




Hi Andrew:

Try adding a style for that image and put display: block; inside it.

Images by default are treared as inline elements, leaving space for the 
descenders of letters below them.  Making them block takes that away.  
That should take care of it.


Hope this helps,
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Re: [css-d] (IE problem) vertical-align of div in td doesn't work when div has relative height

2005-07-01 Thread Guillaume
Take a look at this 
http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/priklady/vertical-align-valid-solution-en.html
It gives you a valid method to center content, or change it's values to 
any vertical-align options ( in your case bottom ).

There are two parts in the css: for all browsers / for Ie.
By the way it is the only clean method i know to control vertical-align, 
especially to center content vertically.

Guillaume.
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Re: [css-d] (IE problem) vertical-align of div in td doesn't work whendiv has relative height

2005-07-01 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: sascha sengespeick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

please take a look at this:
http://www.info01.de/sascha/buggy_in_ie.html
it drives me crazy!

if you change the height to a pixel value, it works fine in IE ...

Is there some reason that you need the XHTML1.1 doctype? Using a different 
doctype that allows you to get IE out of quirks rendering mode will solve the 
problem, and keep the 50% height. 

http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=E2F258C46D285FEE

hope that helps,

~hollly  
 
   
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Re: [css-d] IE Problem w/ 3 Columns

2005-06-22 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater

jimmy wrote:

I am having a problem in IE6 on XP with a 3 column layout.  The left 
column contains thumbnail images, and sometimes it shows up under the 
text in the center column, and sometimes it shows properly in the left 
column. I can keep clicking on the page refresh and it will move back 
and forth.


Naturally it works fine in FF... and seems to be ok in Opera, although 
I haven't thoroughly checked it there yet!!  Both the html  css 
validate.


http://www.kblevinsinvestments.com/Properties/Properties.php?r=913



Jimmy,

I don't see this happening either (IE6, XP, SP2).  If you are still 
seeing it, is there anything else you can tell us about your setup?  
What size window are you running at?  What text size are you using?  Etc.


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Re: [css-d] IE problem - float dropping down

2005-06-09 Thread Ingo Chao

Don Hinshaw schrieb:

Hello all,
My example page is here: http://test.hinshawdesign.com/css/float_debug.html
What I find in IE is that when I make my viewport narrower than ~850px, 
the center column drops way down. I realize that this is due to the 
select menu in that column, but ultimately I will have no control over 
such elements (including long URLs), so I would like to find a way to 
fix this. A horizontal scrollbar is fine...disappearing content is not!


Thanks for any sugestions!



Another problem you might want to fix is that your script freezes IE 
when the window is narrowed to about 500px (IE6XPSP2)


Ingo

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