Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britains State Religion ?]
-Caveat Lector- Once again, we will have the mariage of the Lily and the Rose..then Ireland can rest in peace as it has been fighting since the War of the Roses, has it not. Colleen The marriage of Church and Statesee Song of Solomon, a return to the past. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Selective Memory
-Caveat Lector- From Boston Globe Clinton offers a plan for Balkan rebuilding By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff, 05/14/99 PictureASHINGTON - President Clinton proposed a postwar rebuilding effort in Kosovo and other parts of southeastern Europe yesterday that would be comparable, he suggested, to the Marshall Plan. Efforts to negotiate an end to the war, meanwhile, continued slowly on several fronts. Yugoslav officials distributed a videotape of 150 soldiers who had reportedly left Kosovo, attempting to show a partial pullout was under way. But NATO spokesman Jamie Shea in Brussels said the event was staged and meaningless. Some 40,000 Yugoslav troops remain in Kosovo, NATO officials said. Clinton, in a speech to veterans in Washington, again laid out the rationale for the air raids, comparing President Slobodan Milosevic's ''ethnic cleansing'' of the Albanians in Kosovo to the Holocaust. ''Though his ethnic cleansing is not the same as the ethnic extermination of the Holocaust, the two are related - both vicious, premeditated, systematic oppression, fueled by religious and ethnic hatred,'' Clinton said. In Moscow, the US deputy secretary of state, Strobe Talbott, met with Viktor Chernomyrdin, Russia's envoy to the Balkans. After the meeting, Chernomyrdin said, ''We have moved closer to a solution.'' It was difficult to gauge the state of the negotiations because Russia is in turmoil over the impeachment proceedings against President Boris N. Yeltsin and his firing of Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov. A White House official said there had been no breakthrough in the talks, and Russia's UN ambassador, Sergei Lavrov, said no resolution on a Kosovo peace plan can pass the Security Council until the bombing has stopped. Yeltsin, for a second day in a row, threatened to withdraw Russia from diplomatic efforts to find a political settlement if NATO continues to bomb Yugoslavia over Moscow's objections. Yeltsin made the remarks at a meeting yesterday with visiting French President Jacques Chirac, who later said that ''nothing would be worse than if Russia left this negotiating process.'' Chirac added, however, that he saw no indications that Russia was actually planning to pull out. Chinese officials, still angry over last week's accidental bombing of their embassy in Belgrade, remained adamant that the bombing of Yugoslavia should stop before they will back a truce plan. But NATO warplanes continued to hit targets throughout the region, shelling a number of sites in Kosovo yesterday. Without providing any specifics, Clinton called for a massive rebuilding program in Kosovo and neighboring areas affected by the war, suggesting that the effort would be comparable to the Marshall Plan following World War II. ''Southeastern Europe after the Cold War was free but poor. As long as they are poor, they will offer a less compelling counterweight to the kind of ethnic exclusivity and oppression that Mr. Milosevic preaches,'' Clinton said. ''If you believed the Marshall Plan worked, then we have to work with our European allies to rebuild southeastern Europe and give them an economic future that will pull them together,'' the president told 200 members of Veterans of Foreign Wars. In light of prior statements by Clinton that NATO is not trying to replace Milosevic, Clinton's proposal for a postwar aid program prompted questions about whether Milosevic might benefit from the plan. White House spokesman Joseph Lockhart declined to rule out the possibility that Milosevic's government would get the aid, but he cast doubt on the idea. ''I just can't imagine that as we look into the future, that the rest of Europe would be looking to work cooperatively with an autocratic regime that could perpetrate the kind of atrocities that have been done over the last several years,'' Lockhart said. Clinton has said that Kosovo should be an autonomous region, but should remain part of Yugoslavia, while the Kosovo Liberation Army wants a separate state. Clinton made his speech, aimed at shoring up public support for the NATO attacks, a day after the White House hired a new public relations consultant, Leslie Dach, for the temporary job of improving the administration's communications about Kosovo. Dach, vice chairman of Edelman Worldwide, is a well-known figure in Washington who once was communications director for Michael S. Dukakis's presidential campaign. Today, Hillary Rodham Clinton is scheduled to visit the Brazda refugee camp near Skopje, Macedonia, that has 18,700 refugees. Meanwhile, Mary Robinson, UN high commissioner for human rights, was denied her request to meet with Milosevic in Belgrade. Robinson said she had collected evidence that ''people in uniform'' had driven many ethnic Albanians from their homes. ''In all of the cases, I asked, `Was it the bombing?' and I was told `No, it was not.' I have to conclude that there must be some reason why President Milosevic did not wish to meet me. I certainly
[CTRL] Atlanta Ritual Abuse trial starts Monday
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:522671"Atlanta Ritual Abuse trial starts Monday /A - Subject: Atlanta Ritual Abuse trial starts Monday From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ohnoapr) Date: Thu, May 13, 1999 2:20 PM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Next Monday, May 17, 1999, former Hapeville Elementary teacher and whistleblower, Carolyn "Lyn" McCullers' trial for criminal trespass by Fulton County Solicitor's office (Case # 93-Z-207466-H) in behalf of Cheryl J. Bogrow, Principal of State Bridge Crossing Elementary, Fulton County School System, who sought a warrant for Lyn's attendance at a PTA meeting in October, 1997. Interested individuals and children's advocates available for a courtwatch are invited to attend Lyn's criminal trial, at 185 Central Ave., Justice Center Tower, State Court of Fulton County/Criminal Division, 9:00 AM Courtroom 3, Judge Albert L. Thompson presiding. We would like to fill the courtroom to capacity to show the court and prosecutors our interest in child abuse prevention and the adults entrusted as mandatory court reporters protected from prosecution. The following hyperlink is a post I made after a Fulton County judge sealed the records of the Walt West Hapeville Molestation case. This is not just another "flakey" debunked McMartin Daycare or Wenatchee SRA spin, as there are actual photos of West's molested kids that were confiscated from the trunk of West's car and said kids recently won an $8.5M judgment against the City of Hapeville. (See followng AJC story) According to sources, Walt West, a former police officer with Fulton County Schools, took children off school property to various metro locations, sexual abused them, photographed, videotaped, caged and performed Satanic Rituals with other adults, including other police officers and the Principal of Hapeville Elementary, Cheryl J. Bogrow. (AJC story follows) Lyn's arresting officer at State Bridge Elementary was Larry Bussey, who has an extensive criminal record, himself, and was recently fired as the new Assistant Director of School Security in DeKalb. (See following AJC story) Lyn's crime, of which the Fulton solicitor is seeking a three year jail sentence, consisted of her attending a PTA meeting and giving a Biblical passage concerning child abuse to Bogrow. (See following passage) Lyn has since lost her teaching job for refusing to stop disclosing details of Bogrow's and other school officials alleged participation in child ritual sexual abuse. Please pass this information on to anyone who might be interested in attending our courtwatch. Victoria Pierce, GA Activist National Alliance for Family Court Justice A HREF="http://youthofamerica.org/NAFCJ/Features.htm"N.A.F.C.J. Features/A School Watch Security official fired over record BYLINE: Diane Loupe, Staff DATE: 04-29-1999 PUBLICATION: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution EDITION: Home SECTION: DeKalb Extra PAGE: J7 In an effort to beef up school security, DeKalb School officials recently hired a new director and an assistant director of school security. But the assistant director, Larry W. Bussey, was fired from his $60,228 a year job due to an "unsatisfactory criminal background report," which turned up almost four months after he was hired. The information was contained in a letter from Robert L. Tucker, executive director for personnel services for the school system. Although Tucker would not reveal the specifics of Bussey's arrest record, a search of public records uncovered two bad-check charges in Fulton County, which were dismissed, and a 1990 arrest for domestic violence, including pointing a pistol at another, criminal trespassing, disorderly conduct and creating a turmoil. He was cited in a 1995 DeKalb County court order for failure to pay child support, and he agreed to have $675 deducted from his paycheck to pay his ex-wife $6,650 in unpaid child support. In a recent interview, Bussey denied many of the charges. He agreed to discuss the matter with a reporter, but he failed to show at a scheduled interview. © Copyright 1999,The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, All rights reserved. Diane Loupe, Staff, School Watch Security official fired over record., 04-29-1999, pp J7. *** BROKEN TRUST: Allegations overlooked: Officials were told on numerous occasions of: possible child abuse by a Hapeville police officer but failed to act. Walter P. West Jr.'s resume runs 3 1/2 pages and lists the accomplishments of a police officer on the way up: Emory University graduate, juvenile officer for the Hapeville police, youth minister for United Methodist Church, member of several police policy committees. It is the resume of a child molester. Pedophiles seek out jobs that give them power over vulnerable children, experts say. They devote months or even years to seducing children, and they often escape scrutiny by building a shield of
[CTRL] Have We Been Sold Down The River?
Does anyone know the date of this? http://rallye-pointe.com/river.htm Title: Have We Been Sold Down The River? 1777 to 1998 Have We Been Sold Down The River? - - UPDATE - - pResident Clinton has agreed to postpone the execution of E.O. 13083 for 90 days. This is not a complete victory yet! It can still be enacted unless he issues another executive order nullnifying it. Keep the heat up! There is a problem in our government. This problem transcends our normal political parties. We have representatives in our government that are allowing the Executive Branch to usurp the Constitution. Since 1933 our representatives have allowed the President of the United States to enact laws without Legislative control. Are we being sold down the river? In 1996 our representatives passed a law that puts into place the National ID card. We are slowly, but surely, mirroring laws in place in Russia and other countries that suppress individual liberties. Recently pResident Clinton signed Executive Order 13083 that all but removes the 10th Amendment from the Constitution. Citizens of North Carolina, I urge you to immediately contact our representatives in Congress and the governor and demand that they protest and bring this insanity to an immediate halt. At the end of your message state if you can't respond by e-mail, don't bother. Quit wasting my tax dollars on postage. If they come back with the Congressman will only reply to constituents by regular mail then cross them off your list of people to vote for.
[CTRL] UK Seeks To Curb Internet 'Spy List'
-Caveat Lector- "The list names three people as having been involved in the death of Britain's Princess Diana in a 1997 Paris car crash. Tomlinson last year accused MI6 of involvement in her death. " Friday May 14 3:41 PM ET UK Seeks To Curb Internet 'Spy List' By Susan Cornwell LONDON (Reuters) - The British government struggled Friday to prevent further dissemination of a list of secret agents allegedly published by a renegade spy that officials say could put those named in mortal danger. The former spy himself, Richard Tomlinson, denied he was responsible for publication on the Internet of the list of more than 100 alleged intelligence officers and challenged his former employers to take him to court to settle the matter. The names, many of them diplomats, were still posted on copycat ``mirror'' Web sites, although the original site that so outraged British officials this week had been withdrawn. The Foreign Office was unsure it could do anything about further proliferation of the list, especially in media outside Britain that would not feel bound by the government's request not to publish the names because it could risk agents' lives. ``We're aware of the reports that the list is on other Web sites, and we're considering what action we need to take, if we can take any action at all,'' a Foreign Office spokesman said. Officials were however considering punitive action against the perpetrator of what was considered one of the biggest security breaches in recent years. Police said they were investigating the release of the names as a breach of the Official Secrets Act. Foreign Secretary Robin Cook said Thursday that Tomlinson was behind the publication of the list, although Cook added that it was ``riddled with inaccuracies.'' Tomlinson, who was sacked in 1995 from the Secret Intelligence Service -- the foreign intelligence arm more usually known as MI6 -- denied he was responsible. ``A denial might sound a bit thin because I did indeed threaten to put names on the Internet,'' he told BBC television in an interview from Switzerland. ``But I didn't actually do this and it's not me that put the names on the Internet at all.'' He was happy to let British officials to examine his computer and the records of his Internet service provider. He added: ``If they want to use that as evidence to try me (in court), then let them go ahead.'' Tomlinson said he did not feel in danger from MI6, but disclosed that he had received death threats by e-mail. He lives in Geneva, putting him beyond the reach of Britain unless it requests his arrest and extradition. But in a similar case, France last year refused a British request to extradite another rogue ex-spy, David Shayler. The Foreign Office spokesman declined to confirm any of the names on the list, most of whom were British diplomats posted to embassies now or in the past. Most of their names could also be found on the official Diplomatic Service List. One man was said to be ``the leading recruiter for MI6 agents'' at Cambridge. At the university, an academic with a name spelled similarly to that on the list told Reuters in response to an inquiry that he had been retired for the past 11 years and it was not his policy to discuss any confidential information given about any student to a prospective employer. Another man on the list was identified by British media as the son of a former Conservative cabinet minister. Also among those named was a member of Cook's staff. The list names three people as having been involved in the death of Britain's Princess Diana in a 1997 Paris car crash. Tomlinson last year accused MI6 of involvement in her death. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Confusing Signs In NATO War (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- CONFUSING SIGNS IN NATO WAR === (CNNS, 05/14/99) -- A network report which aired yesterday foresaw problems for Kosovo refugees. Living in tents, the thousands of emigrants would be okay during the next few months, stated the narrator, but what about when winter comes? The broadcast segment ended with the warning that temperatures would then be well below freezing and the encamped refugees would be in a very uncomfortable situation. But isn't NATO on the verge of winning their war over Kosovo? Isn't victory "just around the corner?" If it's anticipated that Kosovo refugees will still be in their camps come next winter, then apparently the war against Yugoslavia is a long way from being over. "Reading the tea leaves" is one of the few ways of getting past both NATO and Serb propaganda. For example, the report mentioned above on future sufferings, during winter, of Kosovo refugees, contains a hidden message: subtext -- that this war may drag on for awhile. President Bill Clinton, in an Oscar quality performance, yesterday gave an impassioned speech in which he played Romeo to a Juliet audience. As if kneeling with arms extended before his beloved, Clinton wooed listeners with a new story: that 15 Kosovars had been tied up and set on fire by the Serbs. Bill Clinton: he simply seduced a nation. It will be interesting to find out, later on, if the Clinton tale of 15 ignited Kosovars is true. But that fact-finding may be overwhelmed by a future barrage of imaginative reports now that the White House has brought in a PR expert to assist in the selling of the Yugoslav war. Joining the Clinton spin doctors will be Leslie Dach, who "will try to spread the word about interesting stories of individual refugee families, of heroic humanitarian relief work, of Serbian atrocities against Muslims remaining in Kosovo." [1] He, according to ABC News, will apparently work to shore up deteriorating public support in the U.S. for the Yugoslav war. [2] The White House propaganda, like the NATO bombing, is about to intensify. But some point out that the Serbs also use propaganda. That, in itself, has become anti-Serb propaganda, with the USA mass media often hinting that the Serb reports are likely lies. After all, they're by Serbs. As local commentator Carl Estabrook explains, "When U.S. television carries material from Yugoslavian TV, the label 'Government-controlled Serbian Television' is prominently displayed -- but CNN doesn't carry a 'Corporate-controlled American Television' warning." [3] At any rate, reports available at www.serbia-info.com, though partisan to the Serb cause, also routinely cite independent sources in their stories. If the Serbs are inventing their news, then it ought to be easy for pro-NATO propagandists to contact the cited, independent sources utilized, and refute what the Yugoslav press is saying. But this has not happened. In a report issued by this news service on May 9, 1999, we relayed a story from the PBS program, "The McLaughlin Group," in which host John McLaughlin stated that the U.N. commissioner on human rights has now included NATO as a likely subject for charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity. [4] The Tanjug News Wire corroborates that Mary Robinson, a human rights official with the United Nations, visited the city of Nis, in Yugoslavia, to eyewitness effects of a NATO cluster bomb attack there. [5] The NATO bombing of Nis, in which civilians were slaughtered when a cluster bomb hit a non-military target, was briefly covered even by USA TV networks. CBS Evening News reported the outrage, and their on-site reporter was visibly shaken by the event. However the subsequent US/NATO bombing of the Chinese embassy pushed the story of the Nis massacre out of the headlines here in the U.S. Tanjug News Wire reports that *ten* cluster bombs were dropped on the residential area of Nis. [6] According to another report by Tanjug, easy to verify or refute, "The international organization Human Rights Watch expressed today its concern that NATO was violating international humanitarian law in Yugoslavia." Reportedly, "Human Rights Watch particularly expresses its concern for destruction of the objects of economy, attacks on Yugoslavia's electrical transformers which primarily serve civilians and the destruction of several of Yugoslavia's television and radio stations, bombarding of the city hospital in Nis on May 7 and Chinese embassy in Belgrade, as well as bombing of civilian vehicles because they were not seen or misidentified." [7] According to another report by Tanjug, easy to verify or refute, John Laughland, a commentator with the London Times newspaper, calls the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia,
Re: [CTRL] Why the Chinese embassy was bombed.. READ
-Caveat Lector- Is it possible that Klinton did it on purpose to have China launch an attack on the US so he could then declare martial law and enable the executive orders so he could seal his place in office and kick this whole thing off? Or are we that close yet? Jamie DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo Another Holocaust? HARDLY
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 05/14/1999 4:36:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ``At the end of the line when these poor Kosovo refugees enter Macedonia or Albania, waiting for them is not extermination ovens and gas chambers, but food, clothing, medical supplies and airplanes to take them to other parts of Europe or the United States,'' Lantos said. The only difference here is that the world is aware, and steps are being taken to give aid and help them escape. Had my president and the pope and a few other high ranking authorities taken the same action on behalf of the Jews, that holocaust would have been a bit different also. It was the fact that the world sat back and as much as said to Hitler, "Have at it." that created the Holocaust. The entire western world is guilty. Of course now that action is being taken to keep a holocaust from happening, we hear nothing but complaints, so perhaps the people prefer the holocaust to helping their fellow human beings. If so, it is not the first time they have shown their compassion in this way. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: [prj] Welcome (http://members.home.com/irishkev/oldcofc/issue1.htm)
-Caveat Lector- One of the themes is Take the socialist system / idea Launder it through educated countries * Germany - (WW I and WW II), * America - (Skull and Bones - Aldof Coors - Ect.) * China and Japan - (who used to honor the printed word, to an extent that we would not nessisarily understand Take down any idea that would lead to a constitutional republic -- Sell it back to Ireland and Scotland as Democracy have them take apart the Royal Houses - Supposivly in the name of Democracy and Progress Have Ireland and Scotland attack history because it is supposivly prejudice And you have a world un-educated in what parts if not all of what the socialist system hides. A me attudude that is run by a dictator / monopolies Canabolism - Soilent Green is nothing compared to what they seem to have in mind. Constant consumerism, by turn over of the consumers. --- I have been attempting to say that the short term profit that they will enjoy will become a long term loss. The US Constitution is based on Scotlands and if they get Scotland to take out the last of the people that have to live by "Culture and History Inherent" not inherited we are lost The Pied Piper Having problems people, any high level exterminators out there? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL fights the fingerprint!
-Caveat Lector- SCAN THIS NEWS 5/14/99 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Today, the Anti-Defamation League, champions in the fight against anti-semitism, racism and bigotry in the effort too secure justice and fair treatment for all people, have gone on record for the first time in officially opposing the Georgia Driver's License Fingerprinting statute. The ADL joins a growing list of diverse newspapers and organizations who oppose fingerprinting for driver's licenses including the ACLU, SCLC, Christian Coalition, Eagle Forum, Marietta Daily Journal, Augusta Chronicle, Athens Daily News/Banner Herald, Cartersville Daily Tribune News, Valdosta Daily Times, Tifton Gazette and others. In a letter from Southeast Region Director, Jay Kaiman, the ADL urges "Repeal of the Georgia Driver's License Fingerprinting statute and urge[s] Governor Roy E. Barnes to see that this objective is achieved." Fingerprinting was "sold" to the legislature under the context of stopping fraud, but according to figures supplied by Public Safety, there have been only 142 arrests in 2 ½ years as a result of an individual fraudulently trying to get a driver's license. In fact, Driver License Examiners do not have the power to make an arrest. Of all the states, Minnesota uses the most advanced fraud resistant features (like Georgia it is a Polaroid system) and does not employ any biometrics (e.g. fingerprint). Interestingly, California does requires a fingerprint, but has one of the highest fraud rates in the nation (although practically negligible). The Governor has the power by Executive Order to instruct Public Safety to stop fingerprinting. ### end ### Don't believe anything you read on the Net unless: 1) you can confirm it with another source, and/or 2) it is consistent with what you already know to be true. Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the free Scan This News newsletter, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and type "subscribe scan" in the BODY. Or, to be removed type "unsubscribe scan" in the message BODY. For additional instructions see www.efga.org/about/maillist.html --- "Scan This News" is Sponsored by S.C.A.N. Host of the "FIGHT THE FINGERPRINT!" web page: www.networkusa.org/fingerprint.shtml == ~~ "This is just my opinion. I could be wrong." Dennis Miller http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 ~~ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Request for URL of US MI5 Web Site
-Caveat Lector- from: http://jya.com/rfurl-dc.htm A HREF="http://jya.com/rfurl-dc.htm"Request for URL of US MI5 Web Site/A - 12 May 1999. Tomlinson's Geocities site disappeared at about 5:00PM US-CST, May 12, 1999; see mirror of one page of the site. 12 May 1999. Richard Tomlinson's still-active (at 13:30 US-EST) Geocities Web site (without UKOSA stuff): http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Jardin/8767/MI6dir.htm 12 May 1999. Thanks to DC. We'd appreciate this notice being passed to Richard Tomlinson with our offer to host his material. See JYA public keys. ADVISORY, not for publication: We have been asked by the secretary of the Defence, Press and Broadcasting Advisory Committee to publish the following: FOR THE ATTENTION OF ALL EDITORS FROM SECRETARY DEFENCE, PRESS BROADCASTING ADVISORY COMMITTEE I understand that a US-based website has today published on the internet a list which identifies a large number of SIS (MI6) officers. Defence Advisory Notice No 6 asks editors and programme makers to seek advice before publishing such details unless they have been widely disclosed or discussed as such action could put lives at risk. Departmental officers are examining how the damage of this disclosure can be minimised. While this is in progress, I would ask that editors do not interpret the information in the website as being widely disclosed and do not, therefore, publish the address or the content of the website without first contacting the D Notice Secretary, Rear Admiral David Pulvertaft [Added by JYA] Thanks to MD. See Wired story today: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/19620.html Thanks to Sunder. Source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/990510-18.html Posted 10/05/99 1:05pm by Linda Harrison Secret service eliminates ex-spys Web site A former James Bond wannabe had his Web site shut down by MI6 last week after threatening to expose some of Britain's top secrets. Richard Tomlinson's site aimed to shake up and stir MI6 by identifying its officers and site locations around the world, according to a report in The Mail on Sunday. Tomlinson also warned that he would publish a book synopsis of his own MI6 career - an act he was jailed for last year. Top government law officer Anthony Hammond, got the injunction banning the site, which is based in Switzerland, where Tomlinson now lives. The site, run by Lausanne ISP IPWorldcom, stated: "The objective of MI6 is to steal the secrets of other countries. Most of the secrets are stolen by MI6 officers working abroad under cover as British diplomats." The map of MI6 office sites was said to be "coming soon". Another page showed Tomlinson wearing a silly hat and grinning in front of the MI6 headquarters at Vauxhall Cross in London. When the site was opened up it played the theme tune to Monty Python's Flying Circus. Last week, Tomlinson said he would appeal against the injunction. Meanwhile, the cheeky Web wizard had switched the pages to a site run by California-based Geocities.com. Again he was closed down after the Swiss injunction was pointed out to Geocities. According to Tomlinson, MI6 was breaking the law around the globe by its activities, as well as playing with his liberty. "They are trying to obstruct my freedom to travel and I have already been banned from entering France, the USA and Australia," he told the MoS. "There would be no need to put up this Web site if they stopped messing me about. I have already lost one job by being prevented from entering France." ® - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Fwd: COMMERCE WITHHOLDS DOD REPORT RELEASED IN 1998
The Clinton administration has delivered a complete listing of secret CHINA-GATE documents in a Federal Court case in Richmond, Virginia. However, the production of the secret list has confirmed that the Commerce Dept. is also withholding a document that has already been publicly released. On May 10, 1999, the DOJ attorney representing the Commerce Dept. delivered a motion containing a complete explanation of the materials that are being withheld. In one case, the Commerce Dept. is claiming that "FIVE-pages questions and answers" from the Dept. of Defense must remain classified. "13. Five-page questions and answers regarding Hua Mei - no date Originating agency: Department of Defense (E44-E47). Exemptions: (b)(5). This document is being withheld under (b)(5) because was originated by the Department of Defense as part of the process of deciding how to respond to allegations about an export to China... As there is nothing on the document that indicates it was actually used for public discussions, its release would harm the decision making process by discouraging the full consideration of facts to decision makers." Clearly, the Commerce Dept. did not inspect the SOFTWAR lawsuit submitted in 1998. Not only was this document released to SOFTWAR in full in 1998 - The entire DOD document was provided by this reporter as evidence to the Court in the original lawsuit filed in November, 1998! In fact, the entire Dept. of Defense document has been on the SOFTWAR internet web site since September 1998 and is fully available for public viewing (http://www.softwar.net/dod.html). The evidence consists of a cover letter from the Deputy Secretary of Defense dated Jan.29, 1996, FIVE-pages of questions and answers, and a three page attachment. The entire nine (9) page document, including the "FIVE" pages the Commerce Dept. is currently withholding, was returned in response to a FOIA against the Commerce Dept. in 1998. This reporter is now certain the Judge is viewing only five pages of a nine page DOD report behind closed doors. The Commerce Dept. could not find the cover page and the 3 pages of attachments previously returned in 1998. Thus, four pages are missing. In response, this reporter submitted a motion for the Judge, including the entire nine page DOD document in question as evidence. The response motion also included a single page letter from the Dept. of Defense FOIA officer that states the DOD document was found at the Commerce Dept. in response to a FOIA request from SOFTWAR. SOFTWAR has asked the Court to order the Commerce Dept. to re-execute a full and complete search of their records - if necessary - by using another agency of the United States Government (e.g. Defense Dept., FBI, or the General Accounting Office). The Commerce Dept. delivered to the Court an incomplete version of the DOD document, demonstrating they performed an incomplete search. The Commerce Dept. withheld a document that has been previously released, demonstrating that they are unable to perform a proper search. Finally, the Commerce Dept. withheld a document supplied by this reporter as evidence to the Court, demonstrating that they are unable to determine what material should or should not be withheld. Clearly, the Clinton administration could not hit the broad side of a barn with a B-2. The Commerce Dept. misfire of trying to declare a publicly available document as secret is the legal equal of "friendly fire". The fact that the same document was submitted as evidence not only adds insult to injury - it shows the same SNAFU driven administration that "pickled" the Chinese Embassy with bombs just blew its own foot off by not bothering to read what was in front of them the whole time. List/desc of secret documents http://www.softwar.net/prcx.html 1 if by land, 2 if by sea. Paul Revere - encryption 1775 Charles R. Smith SOFTWAR http://www.softwar.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pcyphered SIGNATURE: D51B261380B5E8B59E40953856C76920C0E8A7ABA0C0614065453F220417476E 700F1D92B9D3F38FC5FB5ECC63D0AB5907F8971B57CF4A766B3001BF4DA9BB7B 72B4EE248BDADFA9 SOFTWAR EMAIL NEWSLETTER05/14/99 *** to unsubscribe reply with "unsubscribe" as subject***
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-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Der Fuhrer Invades Yugoslavia Yugoslavia May Be Cut Off from the Internet NATO must be planning to stage a new "Serbian atrocity" Parts of Yugoslavia could lose Internet access because an American satellite company might be ordered to stop transmitting into the country under a U.S. trade embargo. Loral Space and Communications Ltd. of New York said Thursday it could be forced to cut transmissions into Yugoslavia from one of its satellites, which serves at least two of the country's major Internet providers. Earlier this month, President Clinton issued an executive order banning U.S. companies from selling or supplying to Yugoslavia "any goods, software, technology or services." "We're still not clear on this whole thing," Loral Space spokeswoman Jeannette Colnan said, adding that the company was seeking advice from the Treasury Department. "It depends on the interpretation of the executive order." The government that issued the order wasn't any clearer Thursday. David Leavy, spokesman for the National Security Council, said that "generally informational material is exempt" but that electronic commerce would likely fall under the ban. "We'll need to inquire further about the appropriate applications of the law," he said. Word of the threat to shut down Internet access to parts of Yugoslavia spread quickly across the worldwide computer network, where it was mostly condemned in e-mail messages and online discussion groups. "To put it bluntly, we somehow got used to air-raid sirens, bombings and threats of invasion, but we don't know how we're going to survive without the Internet," said Alex Krstanovic, co-founder of Beonet, one of the affected Internet providers in Yugoslavia. "If NATO or the U.S. wants to cut us out completely in order to be able to do whatever they want here, this is probably the best way." But some people argued that Internet access should be cut off. "Continuing to provide these services would be kind of like giving aid to the enemy," one person wrote. U.S. civil liberties groups urged the Clinton administration to allow citizens in Yugoslavia to continue using the Web. "The Internet remains at this point one of the major sources inside Yugoslavia for objective news reporting about the war," said Jim Dempsey of the Washington-based Center for Democracy and Technology. "It also remains one of the main sources for any remaining democratic voices within Yugoslavia to communicate with the outside world." Computer traffic in Yugoslavia uses both satellite and traditional land-based telephone lines, but the loss of the Loral satellite could dramatically reduce the Internet bandwidth available to citizens there, causing slower connections or even blackouts. It wasn't immediately clear whether the White House intended its May 1 executive order to include U.S. satellites, but U.S.-run telephone lines were still operating in Yugoslavia. Web sites in Yugoslavia continued to be accessible from the West late Thursday evening, and there were no substantiated reports of anyone unable to use the Internet to retrieve information from outside the country. A spokeswoman at the organization that registers Web addresses ending with the country's "yu" suffix said she was familiar with the reports but that there had been no problems yet. Some U.S. experts on information warfare said it was improbable that the Clinton administration intended that its executive order also would apply to Internet communications. "Information war is being waged today through public information we're over there broadcasting, jamming radios," said Alan Campen, a retired Air Force colonel and author of several books on cyber-warfare. "But I would be very surprised if they" shut down Internet satellite transmissions. Steve Aftergood of the Federation of American Scientists in Washington agreed. "I would be extremely surprised if the U.S. government or NATO forces deliberately sought to cut that channel of information off," he said. "It's a pretty lame form of information warfare because it cuts off the flow of information, and I don't see whose interests that serves." Fox News, May 14, 1999 Russian Follies Communists Set to Impeach Yeltsin Who, however, is still dead MOSCOW - Still smarting over the latest political blow from President Boris Yeltsin, the lower house of Russia's Parliament struck back Thursday, opening a formal debate on impeaching Mr. Yeltsin for high crimes in the turbulent years after the December 1991 collapse of the Soviet system. The session was not lively, but the mere fact that the impeachment issue had arrived on the floor of the State Duma, which Mr. Yeltsin had long sought to avert, added a sense of gravity and political portent to the atmosphere. It came one day after President Yeltsin dismissed Prime Minister Yevgeni Primakov, who had broad
[CTRL] MI6 Drops their pants??? - THIS IS UNREAL
-Caveat Lector- from: http://jya.com/mi6-list.htm A HREF="http://jya.com/mi6-list.htm"List of MI6 Officers/A - 13 May 1999 Source: http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=476738791CONTEXT=926607512.2031419433 hitn um=69 (Accessed at 13:45 US-EST) Deja.com advertising removed. No authentication, may be genuine, a folly or a black op. Jump to list of officers Community: Forum: alt.talk.royalty Thread: ¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ ¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ MI6 Drops their pants??? - THIS IS UNREAL ¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ ¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ ___ Subject: ¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ ¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ MI6 Drops their pants??? - THIS IS UNREAL ¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ ¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ ¸_,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ Date: 1999/05/11 Author: Raymond Amundson [EMAIL PROTECTED] This article appeared in the May 14, 1999 issue of Executive Intelligence Review. In case you have not heard, this is INCREDIBLE http://www.larouchepub.com/diana_mi6_2620.html The `MI6 factor' in the murder of Princess Diana by Our Special Correspondent Recently, EIR was one of several news organizations that received an unsolicited e-mail transmission, identifying senior officials of MI6, the British foreign intelligence service, including individuals who are accused of having been involved in the Aug. 31, 1997 deaths of Princess Diana, Dodi Fayed, and Henri Paul. The three were killed in a car crash in Paris, that, to this day, remains one of the great unsolved mysteries of the 20th century. More than 21 months after the crash, the official French investigation, headed by Judge Hervé Stephan, is still under way, and some of the most disturbing questions about the fatal crash remain unanswered, including the most basic question: Was it an assassination? EIR has been well-known for our exhaustive coverage of the death of Princess Diana, identifying otherwise unpublished leads, and pointing to the involvement of British and other intelligence agencies, in the run-up to the crash, and in the effort to cover up the evidence that Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed were the targets of a murder plot. Some of the information provided in the e-mail posting has been independently verified by EIR. Indeed, three MI6 officials, identified as having been intimately involved in the events leading up to the fatal crash, and the ensuing cover-up, have been previously identified by EIR as suspected culprits, acting on behalf of the House of Windsor, under the personal orders of Prince Philip. In late 1997, EIR published exclusive photographs showing that a team of at least seven men were surveilling the Ritz Hotel on the evening of Aug. 30, 1997--during the final hours before the crash in the Place d'Alma tunnel. As this issue of EIR goes to press, a French court is in the process of deciding whether Judge Stephan will be ordered to pursue further leads on the crash provided by Mohamed Al Fayed, the father of Dodi Fayed, who has made numerous public statements to the effect that he believes that the crash was not an accident. Al Fayed is a civil party to the case, and, as such, is entitled, under French law, to present new leads and evidence for consideration by the chief investigator before the final report is released. In the interest of furthering the investigation into the Paris crash, we publish the text of the anonymous document below. We cannot, at this time, independently authenticate many of the details provided. However, we pass the document along as "raw" material. As we pursue the leads contained in the document, we will keep our readers informed. Here is the e-mail text (the names section contains the year and city to which the alleged agents were posted): The e-mail posting Professor Pritchard of Gonville and Cauis College Cambridge is the leading recruiter for MI6 agents. He identifies and recruits the most intellectual geniuses for MI6. The following three people are members of MI6, an organisation which forms this supposed great country's intelligence service. It manipulates the ordinary people of this country who are unaware of its illegal activities. Sir David Spedding--Head of MI6--was ordered to organise the murder of Diana, Princess of Wales and her friend Dodi Al Fayed. Richard David Spearman--Chief of staff for Sir David Spedding. He was given an assignment and moved to Paris two weeks prior to the murder of Diana, Princess of Wales and Dodi Al Fayed. Nicholas John Andrew Langman--Principal assistant to Richard Spearman. He was also involved with Spedding in the murder. Richard Billing Dearlove--the incoming Head of MI6 in September 1999--was in Paris two weeks before the Aug. 31, 1997 crash. The attached list identifies the unprincipled and unscrupulous individuals involved with MI6 worldwide. The list was produced by an honest man who has since left MI6 because he felt that the behaviour of that organisation was unacceptable in a civilised society. They are
[CTRL] implant activity
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/comic/"http://members.tripod.com/~mdar s/comic/ /A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britains StateReligion?]
-Caveat Lector- Who will be the next POPE??? Who knows??? I don't know but I do know that PRINCESS DIANA will be the next GODDESS and hopefully - after the GUILT of the BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY in her Murder is Proven - Perhaps by leads developed by Tomlinson, both the BRITISH ROYALS and all forms of Christianity/all current Religions will become EXTINCT DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Wackenhut, Part 2
-Caveat Lector- The Casolaro story has always intrigued me. He was there to see someone in the IRS who possibly could have provided some interesting information pertaining to his Octopus investigation. For an excellent source on this everyone should get a copy of The Octopus, by our own Kenn Thomas of Steamshovel Press (in collaboration with Jim Keith, of Black Helicopter fame). It is a riveting story. Wackenhut used to guard Area-51 at one time but apparently doesn't anymore. Does anyone know who does guard that base now? Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Police Have no DUTY to Protect Individuals
-Caveat Lector- This is a great essay, thanks for posting it! It seems to me, especially in light of the Columbine police debacle, that the police are out to get a paycheck and serve the rich and powerful, not us ordinary Joe's. We all have to defend ourselves from criminals AND the police. If they bust in your door at 4:00 AM with a warrant they got based upon the word of a drug addict (who gave your address just to try and get off of a lesser charge) or come to your house through a "clerical error" I suggest you robustly defend your home and shoot them. We'll see how long it is that "no knock" warrants stay in effect then if they start dropping like flies. Some police do a good job, but a LOT of them are PIGS just like they said back in the day. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: (Fwd) - useful excerpts from IOM medicinal ...
-Caveat Lector- Anybody who believes that smoking marijuana leads to useing harder drugs couldn't be more out of touch with the subject. Anyone who is predisposed to trying and using harder drugs will do so whether they try marijuana first or not. Countless people have used marijuana, tried harder drugs, then remained with marijuana for the passed 25-30 years or so. No, I'm not speaking of myself, but of people I know, or people who have told similar accounts. By the way, you would be shocked of the number of CEO's,EXECS; pillars of communities and so-called leaders of industry etc...I personally know quite a number who fit this category.Yet they go to work every day and make enormous decisions that affect the country and at times the world. When will you people put down your martini's and wake-up for God's sake! If you really believe that you drinking alchohol is significantly different than people smoking marijuana, you are without doubt, mistaken! Tell the American people why you "really" object to marijuana usage. You know damn well it's not because of that "gateway" crap! How many people die each year from alchohol related illnesses? You think you're so clever in your deceite of the American nation, but more and more don't buy your lies anymore. Have a good one-JOHN DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-78, Day 52, Update 1 (May 14; 0:30AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. Issue S99-78, Day 52, Update 1 --- May 14, 1999; 0:30AM EDT HEADLINES California1. "I Love My Country, But I Hate What This Criminal Government Is Doing" Banja Luka 2. NATO, U.S. Censors Try to Muzzle Bosnian Serb TV (Again!) Belgrade 3. A General-to-General Air War Talk: Novak-to-Clark - Abort While You Still Can! Moscow 4. Gorbachev: NATO Bombs Destroying New World Order; Belgrade 5. Where Are the Phony Western Liberals Now That Danube Basin's Ecology Is Being Destroyed? Phoenix6. A Serb Poet: "We Know Our Fate" -- 1. "I Love My Country, But I Hate What This Criminal Government Is Doing" CALIFORNIA, May 11 - They say that wars bring out the best and the worst in people. Here's an example of "the best" which we received from a TiM reader in California: "Dear Bob, I've stopped paying taxes; I'm about to sell my home; and I would like some information about how to get into Yugoslavia in order to cover the situation with my camera. Could I send my video reports back to you? I'm at my wits end about what our government is doing both at home and abroad. I'd like to show the people what 'we' are doing. And, therefore, the 'Truth in Media' seems to be a good source to spread the word. I understand that you have been to Yugoslavia and might be able to help me with the details of getting there. I love my country, but hate what this criminal government is doing." Kent Baldwin, California --- TiM Ed.: We did help Mr. Baldwin with the contacts he had requested, and wished him God speed in his noble endeavor. --- 2. NATO, U.S. Censors Try to Muzzle Bosnian Serb TV (Again!) BANJA LUKA, May 13 - While some noble Americans, such as Ken Baldwin, are willing to sacrifice all they have to bring the truth about NATO's criminal activities to the world, the censors of the self-proclaimed leaders of the "free world" are administering the Soviet-style media pressures on the Bosnian Serb TV's broadcasters in Banja Luka. Again. (See "NWO Inquisition in Bosnia," http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins/tim98-7-1.html). In a front page feature article, the Wall Street Journal reported today from Banja Luka, the "new" capital of the Bosnian Serb Republic, one of the two "entities" in the NOW-occupied and NATO-policed Bosnia, that the Serbian Radio Television's reporting on the war in Kosovo has angered the authorities. They have ordered it to air certain (western leaders') speeches in full, have sent army officers to threaten to close the station, and have warned that it could lose equipment if it doesn't change its coverage, the Journal said. "A victim of Serbian nationalism? Actually, the speeches involved were by top American officials, the visiting officers were British, and the confiscation threats came from the U.S. Agency for International Development, which had given the broadcaster an editing console and a van," said Daniel Pearl, a Journal "staff reporter," according to the story byline. --- TiM Ed.: Way to demonstrate Klinton Amerika's commitment to freedom of speech! --- Such pressure reflects the two wars the North Atlantic Treaty Organization is fighting in the Balkans, the Journal said. The first involves airstrikes aimed at driving Yugoslav troops from the province of Kosovo. The second war is being waged on the propaganda front. "Mr. Milosevic is expanding his country's clampdown on independent media and using state television to portray Serbs as victims of a Western conspiracy. NATO has bombed Yugoslav television, calling it part of Mr. Milosevic's 'war machine.' And NATO leaders are striving to keep news cameras focused on the ethnic Albanian refugees who have fled Kosovo and their reports of Serb atrocities, rather than on errant NATO missiles." [...] "Caught in the cross-fire is Dragan Gasic, a tall, Yugoslavia-born Austrian with a booming voice. The Europe-dominated Office of the High Representative hired him last year to reform SRT, the state-funded broadcaster of Republika Srpska, but Mr. Gasic has been at loggerheads with his employers. He refused to force SRT to run full-length European news broadcasts, saying they aren't balanced because they don't show Serb civilians displaced by NATO bombs. He also refused to air NATO briefings in full, saying it was 'unprofessional' to give SRT orders no one would dare give an American broadcaster." The U.S. State Department has pushed to replace Mr. Gasic,
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britains StateReligion?]
-Caveat Lector- who is going to be the next pope and will this person be significant? drbongo DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Request for URL of US MI5 Web Site
-Caveat Lector- Also, my site I found on Book Burning has disappeared and I cannot get to it unless they put it back. May 15, 1933 was the day Hitler burned the books; well, these are the days they are burning up the internet sites, are they notout there looking for the spy who lurks in the webbut there are no many sites, tr;y the Vagabond sites, or whatever and you find all kinds of little pests withinl I am angry about my Book Burning site that has become lost, and I wonder whyI just sent it outit was a Memorial to Book Burning. When I look at Klinton today, I think of Hitler; when I look at MI6, I think of my old friend who was in same, and I also think of her old friend, who was being hunted down by the enemy, and he ws not sure if it was MI6 or KGBhe said when they crossed over, you do know which way they went.so, here we go. Hope Tomlinson finds another good site and if has it copyrighted, they cannpt touch it, can they? At least, not for 30 years. Colleen If anyone can get the Memorial to Book Burning up, let me know.I could not believe it was gone. Maybe temporary. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CNN: Online Gun Poll
-Caveat Lector- Should people buying weapons from non-licensed gun show vendors be subject to mandatory background checks? http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/05/14/gun.control/ --- "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference -- they deserve a place of honor with all that is good." -George Washington ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: ALERT: Support H.R. 1658 to Reform Civil Forfeiture
Go to the site and sign the petition, maybe we can get this thing done away with once and for all. Teo1000 SUPPORT H.R. 1658 TO REFORM CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE (5/14/99) PLEASE COPY AND DISTRIBUTE (To sign off this list, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line "signoff drc-natl" in the body of the message, or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. To subscribe to this list, visit http://www.drcnet.org/signup.html.) We're writing today to ask you to raise your voice to Congress on an issue of great and urgent importance. Under civil asset forfeiture, the government can take and keep the property of people who have been accused, but not convicted, of drug crimes, or whose property has been used without their knowledge to facilitate a drug crime; in 80 percent of forfeiture cases, charges are never even filed. The law is unjust and has had a profound corrupting effect on law enforcement. H.R. 1658, a bill with high-level bipartisan support -- Reps. Henry Hyde and John Conyers, chairman and ranking minority on the Judiciary Committee, and committee members Bob Barr and Barney Frank, will reform civil forfeiture and restore Constitutional due process of law. Please take two minutes to fill out our online forfeiture petition at http://www.drcnet.org/forfeiture/. Though it has strong support in the Judiciary Committee, H.R. 1658 is sure to meet resistance in the House, and needs support to get introduced and passed in the Senate. Nevertheless, it can be passed, this year, so your help is urgently needed. So please take action now! When you are done, please consider following up your Congressional e-mail with a phone call (phone number provided by our lobbying system), and then fill out our "tell your friends" form to spread the word about H.R. 1658. (We won't save your friends' e-mail addresses and won't send them any mail besides your referral.) Or just forward this alert to any interested parties and appropriate lists or forums. If you're not yet ready to act, maybe reading some asset forfeiture stories will help you make up your mind: * Kip Baker was staying at a friend's home in Anchorage, Alaska, when federal agents showed up at the door and informed him that his friend was involved in a marijuana- growing network and the government was taking the house and its contents. Baker was never charged with a crime, but agents seized his ivory collection, the heirloom diamond ring off his finger, and the gold nugget from around his neck. After a year and a half of fighting bureaucracies, a federal prosecutor informed him that the government had sold his possessions. * Juana Lopez was stopped by DEA agents outside a bus depot in New York City with $4,750 cash in her purse. After questioning, the officer realized he had previously arrested her husband for drug charges and told her she was free to go, but he would keep the money because a drug dog had reacted to it. Mrs. Lopez has produced receipts showing that all of her money was legally obtained; a third of the money was borrowed, another third came from the sale of some jewelry, and the rest came from her savings as a hair stylist. The money was earmarked to pay legal fees for her husband. * Ethel Hyton had $39,110 seized during a search by DEA agents at Hobby Airport in Houston. The agents searched her bags and ordered a strip search of Miss Hylton, but found no contraband. Police claimed a drug dog had scratched at her luggage, although Ms. Hylton never saw a dog. The money which Ms. Hylton had was a settlement from an insurance claim, coupled with her life savings, which was being used to buy a house. Please help stop the injustice of the government's legalized theft! H.R. 1658 will put the burden of proof back on the government, protect innocent owners, provide counsel to indigent forfeiture defendants, eliminate the "cost-bond" requirement for for defendants to put up money to challenge the forfeiture of their property, allow defendants to keep their property while a case is in process, and make the government responsible for damage it causes to property that gets returned to the owners. Please visit http://www.drcnet.org/forfeiture/ to tell your Representative and Senators to support H.R. 1658 and restore Constitutional due process of law! (The cases cited above came from the ACLU -- visit their forfeiture section, with links to further information, online at http://www.aclu.org/action/assets106.html. The Drug Policy Foundation has extensive information on H.R. 1658 and the asset forfeiture issue, online at http://www.dpf.org/html/forfeiture.html. And be sure to check out the nation's leading forfeiture reform organization, Forfeiture Endangers American Rights (FEAR), http://www.fear.org.) --- This message brought to you by the Drug Reform Coordination Network's rapid-response-team e-mail list. If you are not already subscribed to
[CTRL] Fwd: AvalonArticulates 10 (1/2)
Though you might want to look at something beautiful for a changesee the "panaora" highlight also, for some beautiful sites - and Avalon is where Arthur was taken.. Colleen Just got this awhile ago - and what a place where I intend to visit next year. AVALON*ARTICULATES 10 A periodic gift of insights from Glastonbury written by Avalonians for folks like you with love from from the Isle of Avalon island of websites at http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk - AA is sent free to all intrepid visitors to the Isle of Avalon island of websites and the Glastonbury Archive (if, that is, they leave their name!) It's also for friends of Glastonbury and anyone with an interest in the kind of things that go on around here! Each week we send out an interesting article from one of Glastonbury's many writers. Sometimes illuminating or informative sometimes entertaining or educational sometimes just a really good read. To subscribe, unsubscribe or communicate see the notes at the end. You might want to print out this e-zine. Pin it up by the toilet, for example! No kidding! -- CONTENTS Part one: Editorial This month's contributions: - Putting our own needs first is the kindest thing we can do, by Emma Gathergood A request from Romania Part two: - Friends, by Shelley Bovey News from Glastonbury Glastonbury net Radio The small print -- Welcome to the tenth sending of Avalon Articulates! This issue of AvalonArticulates has taken a long time to emerge because so many other things have been happening. At present, the front-end of the IsleofAvalon website is being completely redesigned (results in June), and I have been deeply involved with online humanitarian work connected with Serbia-Kosovo too. AA comes in two parts this time, to avoid over-long e-mails. We bring you two articles, written by Emma Gathergood and Shelley Bovey, both Glastonbury residents. They pose what seem to be contradictory issues: putting ourselves first, and being there for others. However, as both authors show, these are two sides of the same coin. Emma has been around Glastonbury for years, though she graced the cities of Worcester and Birmingham with her presence for some years until recently. Now she's back. Once it becomes home, Glastonbury seems never to stop being so. In her time she has been a nurse, mother, healer and counsellor. Shelley has been around for years too, but she's a hideaway type who has made herself known to us only recently. She cropped up on GWell, our local e-mail system, and has made some very interesting contributions, not least the following one: clip I've lived in or near Glastonbury for 20 years but I have never been quite sure who the Goddess is. Is she the deification of nature, the earth's spirit? Is she a female version of the Man Upstairs whom I call God? Is she related to him, is she an aspect of the Virgin Mary, or a synthesis of all the ancient Goddesses of different cultures? Do people who believe in the Goddess ever believe in God or are they mutually exclusive? Is she something else entirely? I have read books but they all refer to the Goddess as though the reader should know who she is. Please fill this gap in my knowledge. Thanks! Love, Shelley end clip Now *this* is a very pertinent question! In Glastonbury, it's an important one, because there are many Goddess enthusiasts around here, and some think the Goddess owns the place. I'm looking forward to seing whether this question is well-answered, and interesting articles on the matter are invited (from folks outside Glastonbury too), for publication in AA! With love Palden editor, AvalonArticulates --- ARTICLES Putting our own needs first is the kindest thing we can do Emma Gathergood When our own needs are met, we automatically sink back into our authentic self. This is our true self, our God/Goddess Self, which is naturally loving and giving. It is WHO WE TRULY ARE! Most of us were brought up to be "a nice kind person, and put others first". These two concepts seemed irretrievably bound together as if they were an inevitable chain reaction. As we grew we couldn't help but see all the pain around us, and spontaneously from the natural joy arising in our hearts wanted to do something about it. So we set off on our careers and life path, full of enthusiasm and good will, determined OUR generation would make a difference - we really would make the world a better place. To those like myself, growing up in the fifties and sixties, with flowers in our hair and in our hearts, with "all we need is love" echoing round our heads, we were sure this time we would get it right. We launched ourselves into positive, creative careers. We believed in "free love", having sex in the open air and
[CTRL] Fw: [prj] Welcome (http://members.home.com/irishkev/oldcofc/issue1.htm)
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Hall, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Lloyd Miller' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 5:03 PM Subject: RE: [prj] Welcome (http://members.home.com/irishkev/oldcofc/issue1.htm) [Hall, David] Good day, Mr. Miller: This is a fine introduction. I am excited to read more of your thoughts in the near future. A question and a few comments if you don't mind! ...May I ask your opinion on what purpose you suppose there may be in our dwelling on the self evident (and therefore non-conspiratorial) Movement of political history? I've been doing precisely that for the last several years and the progress I've made in changing the world -- let alone the minds of a few people -- adds up to nil. Perhaps your own efforts have been more successful? In an interesting letter to Dr. Jung from Miguel Serrano: "A faith, a strong belief, sustained and repeated, can give birth to its own life or form in reality. The Marxist ideas and laws of economic evolution are not really true - but if they are believed and repeated again and again throughout a culture without the opposition of a stronger and fundamentally different faith or compelling belief system, then they will come to be real simply because of the Will of a group of members who support them. It is possible that there is no Law of any kind in the world, and that all that exists is faith in the idea. That is what makes laws possible. In principle, Toynbee is correct when he states that history could be changed if man finds an appropriate reply (technique) to the challenge (manipulation) of the current time (reality), and when he affirms that it is necessary to use propaganda as a means of modifying the mind." I think you've had recent discussion on this issue in another post? Anyhow, the above underscores in my own mind how practical mere belief is in giving a sort of physical birth to an academic or psychopathic phantasm -- when a substantial number of individuals, united through sheer Will, slavishly sacrifice to its delivery. Of course, the phantasm once borne into the world through men's minds remains physically formless as logically it must; and thus we define its religious quality and the reason for its so dangerous - because entirely unimpeachable and physically unapproachable -- nature. Then there is that little totalitarian socio-religious inspiration (or biological instinct) in all of us that moves us (as a united herd, as a mob) to demand compliance by others not sheepish and like-minded, lest we feel helpless against or, paradoxically, envious of, these subjectively anarchistic "threats." Contemporary political scientist and historian Quigley's effluence troubles me for several reasons. First - his stature and theories, like those of Freud in psychology and Bohr in physics and Hegel in philosophy, are deified in many schools of thought. And second, while I find the sheer depth of his knowledge impressive, I have discovered many academic fictions and obviously misleading statements in his books. The obfuscation's are angering because they were made, not out of intellectual naivete, but merely for the sake of political correctness and social economy. It would have been better to exclude commentary on sensitive subject matter where the balls to stay intellectually honest were missing. Aside from his propensity to atomize every detail as though it leapt forth reactively from "The Spring of Accidents" or spontaneously evolved of a necessity by the caring political elite to "finally help the beggarly serfs, too, toward a better way of life", Quigley leads his audience and that is an unfortunate path to take, historically, for such a potent scholar. However his fictions I can agree to disregard: the man who lives the whole of life inside an institution - even one of higher learning -- is ill-equipped to connect the obvious facts and details of the outside world with a fundamental glue, the causes rooted in the human experience of living "out there"; even the wisdom of the life-long, unschooled farmer reveals to him the fallacy of the social conjurer in imagining a benefit in the security, stability, and guarantees that only a Machine can enforce; his empirical experience demonstrates that government and the will of the swarm - the abstract society animal -- squash individual achievement and, as a consequence, bind up the human soul; the result being a society where the worthless wretches - the rabble class -- either wallow away life as sewer rats and gutter trash or, in the case of aristocracy, discover the joyless satisfaction of new or forbidden sexual and criminal perversions. However to Academia, the Machine of government acts much like a drug "fix" - providing a place of security and guarantees for the potential theorists who spout the right kind of propaganda; the great minds who specialize and extrapolate on the fictions of old minds, left to the outside world, might discover
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britains State Religion ?]
-Caveat Lector- John Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Bizarre but truthful Well, Tony Blair has all but converted to Catholicism; Prince Charles has flirted with it for years, since he wanted to marry Astrid Marie of Luxemburg (the Queen Mommy nixed the deal precisely because A.M. is Catholic); Diana was apparently toying with conversion before she took up with Dodi. OTOH, there's a lot of sentiment, esp. within Labour, to disestablish the C of E...and that sentiment would almost certainly mushroom if the Church were to conclude any sort of arrangement with Rome that included recognition of the primacy of the Pope. "Indeed do many things come to pass..." Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Memorial to the Burning of Books by the Nazis
In Acts 19 - which according to my bible code date wise in linked to the death of Princess Diana..and the sabotage of the Apollo, is also of Nazi significance as well. Acts 19 carefully records the only burning of books, recorded in the biblethe Hall of Records destroyed. In Serbia, the Jewish League is defending the Serbs, as they remember when the Serbs defended and protected them from the Nazis..Madame Albright, however, seems to me to be a bit of a book burned; is she, as did Hitler, trying to burn up her Jewish Heritagestill in denial? The OSS was checking out Hitlers Jewish ancestry, the same time Hitler was trying to destroy it.is Madame Albright with her Butcher tactics against the Serbs in her own way attempting to destroy her past.the very same Serb family who once saved her life and the life of her parents from the Nazis, she would now destroy. May 15, 1938Hitler and the Nazis burnt the first bookswhy? What did they fear, but a revelation of their past? Why did someone open gunfire on a group of people at the Mormon Church Library wher genological records are kept which contain a lot of information that the Government would not advertise on a ID card? Why and for what reason, were the kids in a library targed by the two kids at Littlleton who were alleged to be fans of Hitler? When Hitler's Nazis did not get enough press on May 15, 1938 burning books, they also performed this ritual on May 30, 1938Memorial Day weekend for most people.On May 28, the Bismark went down, the Bennington fire, U.S. Scorpio, and othre maritime disasters. Did the Nazis have a time table, just as do the present day ExterminatorsOh yes, in the Revelations, you find the Exterminators, the genocidethe poisoning of the water, and the dream of Adolph Hitler as well as Charles Manson, who imprinted a Swastika on his forehead along with his followers.as did the kids at Littleton, in their own way leave the mark of the demon engraved forever in the halls of records and the library at Littleton. Beware of those who say they are Jews and are not - are these the Zionists whom Christ warned existed back in his time? But what about those who also deny their Jewish ancestry as does Madam Albright, whom the Serbian people will never forget. Let us call a spade a spade.ethnic cleansing is genocide in any language. No wonder people are beginning to hate Bill Clinton and his mass murderersbut is the USA really willing to play the part of the great "beast" in the Revelations - Sieg Heil Bill Klinton, Madam Albright, and Cohen...but remember what happened to Hitler - it wasn't exactly a Viking funeral he got. Colleen http://www.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/rz3a035/kaiserfriedrichufer.html
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Will the Vatican Control Britains StateReligion?]
-Caveat Lector- Tlhe next Pope will be Irish. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sony Bigfoot Advert
-Caveat Lector- Yes.Big Foot.no doubt. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sony Bigfoot Advert
-Caveat Lector- I'm not debating whether or not Patterson's big-footage was legitimate but wondering who has proprietary rights on it. I always understood one of the arguments in its alleged favour was Patterson's refusal to try and generate any commercial profit from the film so why and how did Sony get commercial access to it? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John Hersey (was: Re: [[CTRL] Fwd: 05.13.99 RMNews: IS CHINA BLACKMAILING PRESIDENT CLINTON?])
-Caveat Lector- ...White Lotus. Hersey, John Condition: HERSEY, John. WHITE LOTUS [A Novel]. New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1965. First edition. 8vo, cloth, 686 pages. A fine copy in dust jacket. Format: Hardcover / First Edition / Dust Jacket Associated Dealer: Waiting for Godot Books Hadley, MA Om K In a message dated 5/14/99 1:42:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *White Lotus* was written about 1964, not in the early '50's. It was a historical fantasy which asked the question, what would the response of white Americans be if *we* were enslaved forcibly by another race? The book was indeed a warning, but not a warning of the sort that Ru Mills suggests. It was a reaction to the civil rights movement and the emerging black power movement, and it warned its readers that under the same circumstances, *they* might react the way those "uppity negroes" were reacting. It is a very good book, and stands as one of the best works of the 1960's, easily the equal of Hersey's classic *Hiroshima*. Bob - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fwd: Quakes in Kansas ?]
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Denney, spokesman for the Unified Government, said cracks were ``spread out all over'' the two-story building. A parking lot also was damaged near the building, where the pavement had buckled and dropped off about 8 feet. And what, pray tell, is the "Unified Government"?? Is it a metro regional government? It *sounds* like something out of the NWO...!! Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] John Hersey (was: Re: [[CTRL] Fwd: 05.13.99 RMNews: IS CHINA BLACKMAILING PRESIDENT CLINTON?])
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... In the early 50's, a Yale educated writer named John Hersey wrote a novel called White Lotus. It is about a post nuclear war with China. The American people have been reduced to nomads living in wagons which they circle each evening to protect their people from being captured by the slave traders. The slave traders steal the healthiest and the strongest and ship them to China where they are sold as slaves. Imagine everything you know about black slavery in America, from the forced labor, to the tortuous beatings, to rape; and apply this to the Americans who are slaves for the Chinese. Did John Hersey write this book as a warning for us, or did he write it to mock us? ... *White Lotus* was written about 1964, not in the early '50's. It was a historical fantasy which asked the question, what would the response of white Americans be if *we* were enslaved forcibly by another race? The book was indeed a warning, but not a warning of the sort that Ru Mills suggests. It was a reaction to the civil rights movement and the emerging black power movement, and it warned its readers that under the same circumstances, *they* might react the way those "uppity negroes" were reacting. It is a very good book, and stands as one of the best works of the 1960's, easily the equal of Hersey's classic *Hiroshima*. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] algore/gwbush suck lawyers bundled cash
-Caveat Lector- Lawyers are biggest givers to Gore and Bush, study finds By JONATHAN D. SALANT Associated Press Writer April 29, 1999 Web posted at: 2:02 p.m. EDT (1802 GMT) WASHINGTON (AP) -- As a group, lawyers have been the most generous contributors to the presidential campaigns of both Vice President Al Gore and Texas Gov. George W. Bush. Lawyers accounted for $1.4 million of the $8.9 million Gore raised through March 31, and $747,550 of the $7.6 million Bush took in during the same period, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan research group. The figures include contributions from lawyers, other law firm employees and their spouses. The numbers might be even higher; hundreds of contributors to both candidates failed to list their occupations or employers. A candidate's campaign committee can accept only $1,000 per person. Many firms bundled contributions from their employees to increase their impact, the study found. Lawyers from the Houston-based firm of Vinson Elkins, for example, contributed a total of $172,400 to Bush's campaign. The money includes donations from spouses. Some of the biggest bundlers are law firms that also are registered to lobby on behalf of large corporations. Vinson Elkins represents Bell Atlantic, Federal Express, and several Texas organizations, for example. Other types of companies pool employees' contributions, as well. The highest total Gore received from a single company was $67,950 from employees of Ernst Young, an accounting firm that also lobbies. Its lobbying clients include Intel, the Federation of American Health Systems and MCI, now MCI Worldcom. "They are active participants in politics on behalf of themselves and a wide range of clients," said Larry Makinson, executive director of the center, which studies the relationship between contributions and campaigns. "They want to make sure they're on the inside no matter who wins." Gore campaign spokesman Roger Salazar said the bundled contributions represented a small percentage of the vice president's donors. "The majority of our supporters, over 75 percent, gave $100 or less," Salazar said. "We think he's got support from people all across the country at all levels. They are all supporting the vice president for what he has to offer this country, which is the power of his ideas and his leadership." Bush campaign spokeswoman Mindy Tucker said the donors gave "because he's done a great job as governor and they want him to be president." Gore's only announced challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, former New Jersey Sen. Bill Bradley, took in $646,150 from lawyers. Overall, he raised $4.3 million during the first three months of 1999. Bradley's biggest bundler was the law firm of Winston Strawn, which gave $37,500. Its clients include the Walt Disney Co., General Motors and American Airlines. The study found that some companies had divided loyalties. Employees of the investment firm of Goldman, Sachs Co., contributed a total of $45,500 to Gore, $15,000 to Bradley and $9,000 to Bush. Salomon Smith Barney employees gave $16,500 to Gore and $20,000 to Bradley. The figures also include spouse contributions. The center did not analyze the contributions to other presidential candidates who had not filed electronically. http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/04/29/president.2000/money.ap/ "Thou Shall Not Steal!" because the federal thugs don't Like the Competition! --- Anonymous -- (^) Bard (^) Passionate Charter Member of the International Society of Clinton-haters DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Czech Republic
__ Stratfor's FREE Kosovo Crisis Center - http://www.stratfor.com/kosovo/crisis/ The most comprehensive coverage of the Kosovo Crisis anywhere on the Internet __ STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update May 14, 1999 Arms Transfers Continue From NATO Member to Hostile States Summary: The latest explanation for the An-124 full of MiGs, intercepted in Azerbaijan in March, is that the MiGs were being sold by a Czech company to North Korea. This is but the latest in a series of scandals involving Czech arms manufacturers and merchants who continue to deal with pariah states, despite the Czech Republic's admission into NATO. Prague's relations with its NATO allies will suffer if it continues to ignore the problem. Analysis: On May 12, Czech television broadcast a confirmation made by Azerbaijani officials that the Agroplast company, based in the northern Bohemian town of Liberec, attempted to smuggle six MiG- 21 fighter aircraft to North Korea two months ago. On March 19, the customs authorities in Baku detained dismantled MiGs found on board a Russian Antonov An-124. According to Azerbaijani authorities, the plane carrying MiGs arrived in Baku from Kazakhstan. The aircraft was then to be flown to North Korea, which technically remains in a state of war with the Czech Republic's NATO ally, the United States. Reacting to the findings, the Czech Minister responsible for the Security Information Service, Jaroslav Basta, said his agency has been monitoring Agroplast's activities since 1994, but it did not anticipate that the company would break the law. Agroplast holds no license that would allow it to sell arms to other countries. The MiG scandal is just another in a series of controversial cases suggesting that, although it is now a NATO member, the Czech Republic continues to ignore Czech businesses' arms dealings with political outcasts. When it was still a member of the Warsaw pact, Czechoslovakia (the country split into two independent republics, the Czech Republic and Slovakia in 1993), had a reputation of being a major ammunition and explosives supplier to renegade regimes and terrorist groups. Until the fall of the Iron Curtain, Czechoslovakia was believed to be one of the world's largest suppliers of plastic explosives. During the 1970s and 1980s, the Communist Czechoslovak government sold large amounts of Semtex plastic explosive to a number of nations that allegedly sponsored terrorist groups, including Libya, Iraq and North Korea. Semtex was allegedly used to destroy Pan American Airways Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in December 1988, killing 270 people. Semtex also showed up in the Afghanistan war. Although Semtex is now believed to be under strict control, and there is a tough export control policy requiring a case-by-case examination of any arms sales from the Czech Republic by the ministries of foreign affairs, defense, trade and the interior, there is a powerful black market in the country. According to the Czech Security Information Service, it is possible to illegally obtain a large number of unregistered arms and ammunition, including Semtex. Following the collapse of the Czechoslovakia communist regime in 1989, the Czech Republic made great progress in becoming a part of Western political, military, and economic structures. At the same time, however, the country was struggling economically to survive the difficulties associated with the post Cold War economic transformation. Although official figures show arms sales from the Czech Republic declined in the 1990s, a number of cases in recent years reveal that the country was involved in arms dealings with its traditional customers and former communist allies. In 1997, for instance, the Czech government, after the intervention of Washington, halted the attempt by the Czech military and some government elements to sell five Tamara stealth-detection radar systems to Iraq for $375 million. Bulgarian arms dealers allegedly assisted the Czechs in this sale. In 1995, NATO reportedly suspected that Czech-made Tamara radar systems were used by Bosnian Serbs in the hills near Sarajevo to help shoot down a U.S. F-16 fighter. In April this year, several intelligence sources, including Czech military counterintelligence, claimed Yugoslavia had at least one Tamara, and possibly used it for detecting and shooting down the U.S. F-117 stealth aircraft on March 27. Diplomatic sources quoted by "Intelligence Newsletter" on April 8 said that a couple of weeks before NATO started its air operations in Yugoslavia, Russia supplied the Serbian military with a sophisticated detection system that enabled it to shoot down the F-117. Immediately after the aircraft was shot down, the Czech Defense Ministry launched an investigation into whether Tamaras were supplied to Yugoslavia, and if so, by whom. Because, before 1990, the former-Czechoslovakia had sold several
[CTRL] Fwd: You might be a Redneck Jedi if.....
In a message dated 5/14/99 10:35:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: You might be a Redneck Jedi if. Date: 5/14/99 10:35:52 AM Central Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (F. Michael Zimmerman) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ruth Baer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Religious humor discussion list It had to happen. Just had to. You might be a Redneck Jedi if. You ever heard the phrase, "May the force be with y'all." Your Jedi robe is camouflage. You have ever used your light saber to open a bottle of Bud Light. At least one wing of your X-Wing fighter is primer colored. You can easily describe the taste of an Ewok. You have ever had a land-speeder up on blocks in your yard. The worst part of spending time on Dagobah is the dadgum skeeters. Wookies are offended by your B.O. You have ever used the force to get yourself another beer so you didn't have to wait for a commercial. You have ever used the force in conjunction with fishing/bowling. Your father has ever said to you, "Shoot, son come on over to the dark side...it'll be a hoot." You have ever had your R-2 unit use its self-defense electro-shock thingy to get the barbecue grill to light. You have a Confederate flag painted on the hood of your land-speeder. You ever fantasized about Princess Leah wearing Daisy Duke shorts. You have the doors of your X-wing fighter welded shut and you have to get in through the window. Although you had to kill him, you kinda thought that Jabba the Hutt had a pretty good handle on how to treat his women. You have a cousin who bears a strong resemblance to Chewbacca. You suggested that they outfit the Millennium Falcon with redwood deck. You were the only person drinking Jack Daniels during the cantina scene. If you hear . . . "Luke, I am your father ... and your uncle ..." ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --- Headers Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:35:51 -0400 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (x15.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.28]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id LAA24177; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EALDC5PS; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:35:37 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:18:20 PDT Subject: You might be a Redneck Jedi if. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-23,25-32,34-40,42-55 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "F. Michael Zimmerman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ruth Baer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Religious humor discussion list It had to happen. Just had to. You might be a Redneck Jedi if. You ever heard the phrase, "May the force be with y'all." Your Jedi robe is camouflage. You have ever used your light saber to open a bottle of Bud Light. At least one wing of your X-Wing fighter is primer colored. You can easily describe the taste of an Ewok. You have ever had a land-speeder up on blocks in your yard. The worst part of spending time on Dagobah is the dadgum skeeters. Wookies are offended by your B.O. You have ever used the force to get yourself another beer so you didn't have to wait for a commercial. You have ever used the force in conjunction with fishing/bowling. Your father has ever said to you, "Shoot, son come on over to the dark side...it'll be a hoot." You have ever had your R-2 unit use its self-defense electro-shock thingy to get the barbecue grill to light. You have a Confederate flag painted on the hood of your land-speeder. You ever fantasized about Princess Leah wearing Daisy Duke shorts. You have the doors of your X-wing fighter welded shut and you have to get in through the window. Although you had to kill him, you kinda thought that Jabba the Hutt had a pretty good handle on how to treat his women. You have a cousin who bears a
[CTRL] Corruption Alert! Gun Control Works!
BardVisit me at:The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Governmenthttp://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htmFederal Government defined:a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message-From: GREG ERICSON [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 7:42 AMTo: Undisclosed-Recipient:;Subject: Fw: FPI COVERAGE - Original Message - From:FREE PRESS INTERNATIONAL Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 9:38 AM Subject: FPI COVERAGE Corruption Alert No independent free press allowed to document the crime scene at Columbine High School. This is happening at crime scenes around the world. http://www.realtime.net/~dream/trench.html Free Press InternationalP.O.Box 19300 Suite 181Austin, Texas 78760Website: http://www.realtime.net/~dream/wfp.htmlEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Ph/Fax: (512) 416-8168Founder: Greg Ericson guncont.jpg
[CTRL] [4] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau.
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/PartFour.htm A HREF="http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/PartFour.htm"PartFour/A - "What is expressed by the Tau is a driving force which can only be set in motion by the power of selfless love. It will be possible to use this power to drive machines, which will, however, cease to function if egoistical people make use of them. It is perhaps known to you that Keely invented a motor which would only go if he himself were present. He was not deceiving people about this: for he had in him that driving force originating in the soul, which can set machines in motion. A driving force which can only be moral, that is the idea of the future; a most important force with which culture must be innoculated, if it is not to fall back on itself. The mechanical and moral must interpenetrate each other, because the mechanical is nothing without the moral. Today we stand hard on this frontier. In the future machines will be driven not only be water and steam, but by spiritual force, by spiritual morality. This power is symbolised by the Tau sign and was indeed poetically symbolised by the Holy Grail. - Rudolf Steiner The Temple Legend Etheric technology of ancient Egypt: The evidence from the Temple of Hathor at Denderah The gesture of the etheric formative forces in the shape of coastlines and landmasses The Chessboard of Europe The 12th Century Beatus World Map with concealed grid The solution to Le Serpent Rouge (coming soon) The "Red Sea" in the caption above this detail from the Ripley Scroll was a well-known code name for the divine mercurial water and its tincturing power. Here it is depicted as the blood pouring from the heart of the "Serpent of Arabia". It brings happiness to whomsoever finds it, and flows, round as a ball, to every place in the world, Ripley writes. -from The Hermetic Museum: Alchemy and Mysticism by Alexander Roob (Taschen 1997) --[fini?]-- Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [0] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau.
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consciousevolution.com/ A HREF="http://www.consciousevolution.com/"Conscious Evolution Home Page /A - Lotsa pixs, links and such. Om K - "Homo sapiens, the first truly free species, is about to decommission natural selection, the force that made us Soon we must look deep within ourselves and decide what we wish to become." -- Edward O. Wilson Consilience, The Unity of Knowledge Pythagoras' Fun House The newest addition to the Conscious Evolution family, Pythagoras' Fun House focuses on numerical and geometric insights into ancient and modern wisdom.Click here now! The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. Simon Miles' original research into the origins of Sacred Geometry in the ancient grid-map of To-Mera, and its relationship to stellar formations and etheric formative forces. The Fleming-Roche Tarot Now complete! Click the image of the Tarot Fool to see a one-of-a-kind tarot deck created by your webmaster and a close friend, back in the dark ages. The CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION site is currently under construction. Please bear with us while we plan and grow. In the meantime. please stop by our discussion forum now! Thanks, and welcome. = from: http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/Default.htm A HREF="http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/Default.htm"Sacred Landscape Geometry 99: The Solution to t /A - Sacred Landscape Geometry 99 by Simon Miles "In the manuscript, of course, there was also the map, or, rather, a precise description of the map, of the original. It's surprising; you can't imagine how simple the solution is. The map was within everyone's grasp, in full view; why thousands of people have passed it every day for centuries. And the method of orientation is so elementary that you just have to memorise the pattern and the map can be reproduced on the spot, anywhere. "So simple and so unexpectedImagine - this is just to give you an idea - it's as if the map were inscribed in the Pyramid of Cheops, its elements displayed for everyone to see, and for centuries people have read and reread and deciphered the pyramid, seeking other allusions, other calculations, completely overlooking its incredible splendid simplicity. A masterpiece of innocence. And fiendish cunning. The Templars of Provins were wizards." from the novel Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco Newly Revised and Updated: May 6, 1999: This site documents an on-going investigation into the origins of geometry reportedly marked into the landscape in the positions of certain ancient churches, chateaux and mountain peaks around the ancient hilltop village of Rennes-le-Château, France. This project began as an independent attempt to verify or disprove the findings of Henry Lincoln, as published in his book The Holy Place (1991), and more recently in The Key to the Sacred Pattern (1997). It grew to encompass further material on the landscape geometry presented in the books GenIsis (1985) and Geneset (1994), by David Wood (with Ian Campbell), and The Tomb of God (1996) by Richard Andrews and Paul Schellenburger. A prolonged study and meditation on the 1:25,000 scale map of the region led to a series of decisive breakthroughs in understanding the nature of what is on display in this enigmatic geometric riddle. In short, they led to the solution to the puzzle of the origins of the geometry. In the pages which follow, detailed evidence will be presented with the aim of providing some satisfying answers to the basic questions posed by Lincoln: where, when, how, why and by whom. On the other hand, there is no attempt here to tackle the usual conundrums of the Rennes affair; the matter of Sauniere's wealth, the mysterious parchments, the competing geneaological claims , or the machinations of the Knights Templars , Rosicrucians and the Priory of Sion. However, it is hoped that by putting forward a detailed hypothesis for the true nature and origins of the landscape geometry at Rennes-le-Château, it may help to clear a path to a resolution of some at least of these other intriguing questions. Beyond these purely "local" concerns, the activities of the map-makers reveal a web of relations which extend across Europe and beyond. The mystery of Rennes-le-Château becomes a gateway to an entirely new understanding of the world-conception of the ancients, and hints at a forgotten spiritual technology with possible far-reaching implications for the future of mankind and our relationshipto the earth and cosmos. Ancient stone cross with village of Rennes-le-Château in the background. Photo courtesy of Marcus Williamson Contents: Part One: The Zodiac Grid Map of Europe: - in which the location of Rennes-le-Chateau is shown to have been determined by a grid map of the Ancient Egyptians, and an extraordinary mapping of
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-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:43:53 -0400 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: FAIR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[FAIR-L] FORGOTTEN COVERAGE OF RAMBOUILLET NEGOTIATIONS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAIR-L Fairness Accuracy in Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports FAIR Media Advisory: May 14, 1999 FORGOTTEN COVERAGE OF RAMBOUILLET NEGOTIATIONS: Was A Peaceful Kosovo Solution Rejected by U.S.? Since the beginning of the NATO attack on Yugoslavia, the war has been presented by the media as the consequence of Yugoslavia's stubborn refusal to settle for any reasonable peace plan--in particular its rejection of plans for an international security force to implement a peace plan in Kosovo. An article in the April 14 New York Times stated that Yugoslavian President Milosevic "has absolutely refused to entertain an outside force in Kosovo, arguing that the province is sovereign territory of Serbia and Yugoslavia." Negotiations between the Serb and Albanian delegations at the Rambouillet meeting in France ended with Yugoslavia's rejection of the document that had been adopted, after much prodding, by the Kosovo Albanian party. But is that the whole story? There were two parts to the peace proposals: a political agreement on autonomy for Kosovo; and an implementation agreement on how to carry out the political deal--usually understood to require international peacekeepers in Kosovo. By the end of the first round of Rambouillet in February, the Serb side had agreed to the essentials of a political deal. Agence France Presse (2/20/99) quoted a U.S. official as saying that the "political part" of a peace accord "is almost not a problem, while the implementation part has been reconsidered many times." The U.S. wanted the Kosovo plan to be implemented by NATO troops under a NATO command, and had already made plans for a 28,000-troop force. The Yugoslavian leadership was opposed to the idea, claiming such an arrangement would amount to a foreign occupation of Kosovo by hostile forces. On February 20, the Russian ITAR-TASS news agency reported from Rambouillet that unnamed "Contact Group members may offer, as a compromise, Milosevic an option under which a multinational force will be deployed under the U.N. or the OSCE flag rather than the NATO flag as was planned before." Agence France Presse reported the same day that the Serb delegation "showed signs that it might accept international peacekeepers on condition that they not be placed under NATO command" and added that the head of the Serb delegation "insisted that the peacekeepers answer to a non-military body such as the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe...or the United Nations." A U.S. official confirmed this to AGP: "The discussions are on whether it should be a UN or OSCE force," the official said. The next day, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright declared: "We accept nothing less than a complete agreement, including a NATO-led force." Asked on CNN the same day: "Does it have to be [a] NATO-led force, or as some have suggested, perhaps a UN-led force or an OSCE...force? Does it specifically have to be NATO-run?" she replied, "The United States position is that it has to be a NATO-led force. That is the basis of our participation in it." Two days later, Albright repeated this position at a press conference: "It was asked earlier, when we were all together whether the force could be anything different then a NATO-led force. I can just tell you point blank from the perspective of the United States, absolutely not, it must be a NATO-led force." Over the next month, this position was repeated countless times with increasing vehemence by State Department officials. Furthermore, the U.S. refused to allow the Serbs to sign the political agreement until they first agreed to a NATO-led force to implement it. "The Serbs have been acting as if there are two documents but they can't pick and choose," Albright said (AGP, 3/13/99). "There is no way to have the political document without the implementation force that has to be NATO-led If they are not willing to engage on the military and police chapters, there is no agreement." Finally, on March 23, the day before the NATO bombing began, Ambassador Richard Holbrooke met with Milosevic one last time to deliver his ultimatum: Sign the agreement or be bombed. The response was delivered that night by the Serbian parliament, which adopted resolutions again rejecting the military portion of the accords, but expressing willingness to review the "range and character of an international presence" in Kosovo. At a March 24 State Department press briefing, spokesman James Rubin was asked about this development: QUESTION: Was there any follow-up to the Serbian Assembly's yesterday? They
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-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/part03.htm A HREF="http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/Default.htm"Sacred Landscape Geometry 99: The Solution to t /A - Part Three: The Solution to the Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau: 'That's another thing we've learned from your Nation', said Mein Herr, 'mapmaking. But we've carried it much further than you. What do you consider the largest map that would be really useful?' 'About six inches to the mile.' 'Only six inches!', exclaimed Mein Herr. 'We very quickly got to six yards to the mile. Then we tried a hundred yards to the mile. And then came the grandest idea of all! We actually made a map of the country, on the scale of a mile to the mile.' 'Have you used it much?' I enquired. 'It has never been spread out yet,' said Mein Herr; 'the farmers objected: they said it would cover the whole country, and shut out the sunlight! So we now use the country itself, as its own map, and I assure you it does nearly as well.' Lewis Carroll, Bruno and Sylvie Concluded The Search for the "Elementary First Steps, the Basis of the Design": In 1993, I came across a copy of Henry Lincoln's book The Holy Place. Written several years after his co-authorship of the 1980's bestseller The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, it describes his apparent discovery of a series of alignments, grids and various geometrical figures on the 1:25,000 scale map of the countryside around the village of Rennes-le-Château, in the south of France. The geometry, he claims, may found by connecting the location of the very old churches, chateaux and certain mountain peaks in the vicinity. Although there is little or nothing to be observed in the landscape itself to suggest the existence of such geometry, The Holy Place presents a wealth of examples taken from the map to support his assertion. Although it is a slim volume, there is a large mass of fascinating material in the book. By sheer volume of evidence alone, the reader who follows Mr Lincoln through his presentation is left with the impression that something, indeed, must hover behind his fantastic claims, though whether it is the invisible megalithic temple stretched out across the countryside which he suggests remains an open question. For one thing, it is impossible to verify the alignments for oneself from the book itself, as the size of the 1:25,000 source map precludes its inclusion in the text. Further, Lincoln himself freely admits that whatever underlying structure or design may order his tangle of alignments and circles and other shapes, he is himself unable to discern it. In the end it is a book which poses more questions than it is able to answer. The author is admirably open and honest about this however, and he frames his conclusions more as a call to further researchers to take up the problem than any kind of final word on his discovery. For example, he writes: "For me, however, the essential task remains the hunt for the elementary first steps of the construction, the basis of the design - a quest, perhaps fruitless, for the doorway to an easier understanding." (page 134) Although I lived a long way from France at the time, (or perhaps because of it!), I decided that I would obtain for myself the 1:25,000 scale maps of the area, and set myself the task of independently verifying whether or not Lincoln's claimed alignments held true. When the maps finally arrived, I had them mounted and laminated, and began quietly tracing out his alignments in my spare time. Once I had begun to be familiar with the lay of the land, several impressions slowly formed in my mind. The first was that, for the most part, Lincolns claims about the alignments actually held true. There were indeed many striking examples of significant sites on the map in satisfyingly straight lines over relatively short distances. The circle of churches which he described (details below) was laid out as he claimed, and was accurate enough. There were, certainly, occasional alignments which I came to decide were outside of a small margin of error, but given the sheer number of lines he cites, these did little to put a dent in his overall claim. Many of his claims about distance and angle measures were, however, not of quite the same quality. It became clear to me that his use of the term "exact" was, on occasion, a little too strong. Those familiar with the book may be interested to hear for example that the "pentagram of mountain peaks" does deviate very slightly but significantly from "exact": a perfectly regular pentagram of the size and orientation he describes misses the stipulated peaks by a margin of error of several millimetres on the map. This may be small enough to still qualify the five peaks as a remarkable configuration of physical geography, but exact means exact, and this pentagram was not. On the other hand, it was not long before I was finding examples of both alignments and measures for myself which were not
[CTRL] [2] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau.
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/Part02.htm A HREF="http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/Part02.htm"Conscious Evolution Home Page /A - Plenty pixs and such at site. Om K - Part Two: The Constellation of Crux and its use as a Meridian Calibrator The Meridian in the Mountains at Rennes-le-Château "I will get me to the mountain of myrrh" - The Song of Solomon There have been a large number of books written on L'Affaire du Rennes, the complex swirl of mysteries which seem to have their focus in this remote village1. Most of the strands of the story as usually told concern themselves with history dating from the times of the Templars, the 12th and 13th century of the current era. Our interest is in activities of a much earlier date, and so much of the material is not of direct interest to the current study. However, amongst these many published works concerning Rennes-le-Chateau, there are several which propose the existence of complex geometrical patterns, marked into the landscape on a size and scale which appears to defy conventional explanation2. We shall examine these various schemes in detail later, in the section dealing with the geometry on display at Rennes-le-Château. For now, we can note that having looked at a specific map reference far evidence of landscape engineering and sacred geometry, we have indeed found a location which has a suggestion of just such activity. This tends to support our hypothesis: that the ancient initiates undertook to mark major points of the grid-map by permanently engineering the landscape to incorporate geometric elements. It would assist our case if we could identify unambiguous evidence of such activity; compelling samples of clear manipulation of the rocks and mountains of the area. We now reveal a feature of the landscape around Rennes-le-Chateau which has never before been publicly disclosed. Certainly, it has not appeared in any of the accounts of the geometry published to date that there are several examples in the close vicinity of meridians marked in mountains. By this I mean four or more highest points of mountain ridges or peaks in perfect north-south alignment. These may be checked on the 1: 25,000 map of the area using a ruler and will be found to be aligned with no practical deviation from a true meridian line. The most impressive of these passes through one of the major peaks of the area, known as Pech Cardou. It includes no less than eight prominent points or peaks aligned over a distance of approximately fifteen miles. Moreover, the configuration of the mountains and ridges is such that one may stand on the most northerly of the eight sites, the summit of Pech Cardou, and looking southwards, see each of the remaining seven points on the meridian, one above the other, in ascending order and with none obscured. The most distant peaks (i.e, the most southerly) actually form a V-shaped rifle-sight arrangement, due to the alignment of a mountain pass between two of the peaks in the chain. The second of these meridians marked in mountains passes through the summit of a modest hill, called Le Sarrat Rouge, located exactly due east of the village of Rennes-le-Chateau. From the top of this hill, the bearing due south passes through the aptly named local prominence La Pique, and passes on over the highest points of two long ridges running east-west across the landscape. The most southerly of these, les Cretes d'al Pouil, today features a trig point located on the very position whjere the meridian crosses the ridge. Quite possibly, other examples of these meridians remain to be found, but the quality of the two identified above, both in terms of the accuracy of the alignments, and the significance of the peaks involved, would appear to leave little doubt that they have been artificially sculpted. On the face of it, such engineering feats might seem as impossible to perform as they would appear useless for practical purpose. However, the alignments exist, and if they are not to be attributed to chance, then there must have been a method and a point to such a challenging undertaking. How then was it done? The physical labour involved must be considered the lesser part of the task, requiring "merely" the removal or addition of so much physical material, the shaving of peaks and dressing of ridgetops. The required manpower is assumed to be available, but will be to no avail if there is no method of accurately calibrating the required due south direction to an accuracy which will make the enterprise worthwhile. The meridians are plainly observable, and remain to this day. Hence, some calibration mechanism must have been devised or discovered, and put to use. We shall soon explore a precise mechanism which made such a feat possible. The name of the major meridian sighting peak, Cardou, has been observed3 to be related to the English word cardinal, both being derived from the latin cardo, meaning hinge or
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-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/Part01.htm A HREF="http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/Part01.htm"Part One: The Grid of To-Mera /A - Part One: The To-Mera Grid and the Zodiac of Europe "Unquestionably cosmic operation, cosmic significance, lie behind the twelve constellations of the zodiac and the thirty-six or more other stellar configurations. The planisphere or chart of the heavens was doubtless the first of all Bibles, pictorially edited. Not quite simply and directly but intrinsically, all Bibles are amplifications and elaborations of the original volume of ideography first written on the open face of the sky, charted in the zodiac and heavenly maps, and later transferred to earth and written in scrolls and parchments." -Alvin Boyd Kuhn The Lost Light: An Interpretation of Ancient Scriptures Recovering the Map of Mt Meru: The archetypal form of Mt Meru, the sacred world mountain of Tibetan tradition which unites heaven and earth, may be found in every culture and nation of the ancient world. Whilst in some cases it did actually take the form of a suitably shaped and positioned mountain1, it is by no means only under this guise that the image of Mt Meru may be recognised. In some mythologies it takes the form of the sacred world tree, such as the Ygddrasil of the Norse stories, with its branches in the skies and its roots buried deep in the underworld. In others it is the cosmic axis, the symbolic mill and grindstone upon which the universe turns, or the umbilicus or navel or omphalos2 of the world. Mt Meru, or Mandara as it was known in the earliest times, can be understood as a template for the creation of sacred space. In its simplest format, it may be depicted geometrically as a square with an inscribed circle, divided four-fold by vertical and horizontal axes through the centre. This basic sign may be developed and embellished and expanded to dizzying heights of complexity, but will always be found to contain core references to the elements of the crossed square and circle united around the central organising point. The origin of this symbolism points to astronomical references: it may be interpreted to display the observer st the centre of the circle of the horizon with the four cardinal axes of north, south, east and west. Under another reading, the centre may be taken to represent the sun, with the circle standing for the orbit of the earth, and the axes the solstice and equinox lines. This is the universal glyph which may be found displayed in innumerable Temple architectures from every religious tradition in every age. It is the form of the Garden of Eden, the Great Pyramid, and Stonehenge, as will be shown in detail later in these pages. It is represented by the pyramid, the pillar, the maypole and the obelisk, and may be found ubiquitously in the layout of countries, cities, fairs, games and mazes. The Mandala Palace On the lower levels of the five elements, at the centre of the world on Mount Meru, sits the Mandala Palace. This precious palace is divided, analagous to man as the measure of all things, into the three levels of body, language, and spirits, to which, in this Mandala of the Time-Wheel , precisely 722 Tibetan dieties are assigned. - Kalachakra Mandala, gouache, Tibet, 18th Century In many traditions, specific numbers and dimensions are also ascribed to the geometry and its various layers and extensions. A knowledge of this canon of sacred dimensions allows the geometer to translate freely back and forth between apparently incommensurate values, such as between circular and square areas, or between diameters and circumferences. The establishment of the meeting point ofheaven and earth, or the Meru condition, can be attained through the knowledge and application of these specific numbers by which the circle measures may be reconciled with those of the square. If then the circle be taken to denote the the heavens, and the square, the earth, it then becomes possible to accurately and usefully map one onto the other. The task of locating or fixing Mt Meru falls to the geomancers, or sacred geometers, or meresman3 of every age. He or she who understands the geometry of Mt Meru thereby is able to grasp the linkage between heaven and earth, and becomes enabled to move or translate freely between them. To gain access to the zone in which they intersect is to make available the fruits of the harmony which prevails there. Within this space, the siting and erection of the Temple, correctly aligned, measured and dedicated, and the manipulation of earth and earth energies were designed to bring about the harmonious conditions required for the peaceful existence of all living things. The Hermetic axiom, "as above, so below," may be understood therefore in terms of a specific geometrical display, the Mt Meru form, which is capable of functioning
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-Caveat Lector- From TheIndependent (UK) http://www.independent.co.uk/stories/indint.html Secret British radar project hit by espionage scandal By Mary Dejevsky in Washington With the revelation that China's theft of American nuclear secrets may have compromised the security of Britain's nuclear deterrent, America's ever-expanding Chinese espionage scandal is now lapping at British shores. But the details are complex, confusing, and the effects largely unproved. This is a tale of two nuclear projects, two US laboratories, and two Dr Lees. The first Dr Lee, Wen Ho Lee, worked at the US National Laboratory at Los Alamos for almost 20 years, specialising in nuclear weapons design. After suspicions about his loyalties, the Taiwan-born scientist was dismissed two months ago, but the proof needed for prosecution, according to the FBI, is lacking and he will not apparently be prosecuted. According to revelations in The New York Times, Wen Ho Lee downloaded hundreds of top-secret files from his own secure computer system on to an unclassified computer, where they may have been accessed by the Chinese. Amon g the data transferred, according to US officials, were details of British nuclear tests. The accessing is supposed to have been done by Chinese intelligence. Wen Ho Lee's name was first mentioned in connection with China's apparent acquisition of US designs for a miniaturised nuclear warhead, which enabled a missile to be armed with multiple warheads. The theft, assumed to hav e taken place in the mid-Eighties, came to light only when China tested one of the new missiles in 1995, and a close similarity was observed to their US equivalent. The theft claim precipitated a welter of inquiries, and a security "tsar" is to be appointed to oversee all the US Department of Energy's laboratory security. In announcing the changes the Energy Secretary, Bill Richardso n, conceded that China had been spying on US research laboratories for two decades, including the six years of Mr Clinton's presidency. For Britain, however, it is another laboratory and another Lee who may have done the most damage. A Chinese-born physicist, Peter Lee, was working for a private company, TRW Incorporated, under the auspices of the Pentago n. The technology was developed at the Lawrence Livermore national laboratory in California, where Dr Lee was working on a classified British-American project to develop radar that would be able to detect submarines from the air. In May 1997, according to US officials, Dr Lee passed the information to Chinese scientists during a two-hour lecture in Peking. Some details of the case emerged from a US Senate intelligence sub-committee report published this week, and Senator Jon Kyl was quoted as saying that China now had the technology to detect British and American nuclear su bmarines. Britain's only nuclear deterrent is the Trident submarine. Dr Lee pleaded guilty to filing a false statement about his trip to China in 1997 and to divulging classified data on laser technology to Chinese scientists during a trip to China 12 years before. But the Senate intelligence sub-committee report acknowledged that much of the information used by China in weapons development could have been obtained from published sources. The proliferation of academic exchanges betw een top scientists from China and the US has opened up much previously classified information. The growing practice of commissioning defence work from private research companies blurs responsibilities further. Even if the spying allegations are true, there is no consensus on the extent of the damage. With the miniaturised nuclear warhead technology, experts say China may have recouped between 10 and 15 years of its research lag with the US. Nick Cook, a military group specialists with Jane's, said the leak about nuclear submarines was potentially devastating. But Dr Eric Grove of the Centre for Security Studies at Hull University said the theft would be more embarrassing than dangerous. Even if the Chinese were able to detect a submarine, he said, they lacked the expertise to do anything about it. Such a project, he said, would "probably take up the entire Chinese defence programme". And, and, and ... the link to a version Tomlinson's web site is (via Guardian/Observer): http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/mi6/ AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as
[CTRL] Strange Brew
-Caveat Lector- From Inst for War Peace Reporting www.iwpr.net Europe's Kosovo Dominoes NATO's bombing campaign against Yugoslavia risks creating "new Kosovos" throughout Central and Eastern Europe. By Denisa Kostovicova in Bratislava NATO's bombing campaign against Yugoslavia has sent shock waves throughout Eastern Europe which are rocking the foundations of the region's fledgling democracies. Should democracy lose ground, the field for the nastiest of ethnic politics remains wide open in a part of the world which is dotted with potential, as yet unexploded Kosovos. Stroll along the streets of Bratislava, Slovakia's capital, and you could be forgiven for thinking you are in Belgrade. "STOP NATO", with a swastika squeezed into the "O" of NATO, is scrawled on the walls. Further on, protesters wave their placards: "NATO Hands Off Yugoslavia." Support for the hard-line, nationalist policy of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic is only partly a manifestation of Slav solidarity between Slovaks and Serbs. It also reflects attitudes of nationalist Slovaks to Slovakia's Hungarian minority. Indeed, ethnic Hungarians, who make up 10.6 per cent of the country's population, are already taking fright at the apparent attraction of the Balkan recipe of an ethnically pure nation state to some Slovak nationalists. The new reformist liberal government aspires to Slovak membership of NATO and has even allowed the alliance use of its airspace for the operation against Yugoslavia. But the majority of Slovaks, hitherto reluctant, are now convinced that they do not want to join NATO. And they oppose the air strikes against Yugoslavia. As Slovakia prepares to go to the polls to elect a new President, NATO's bombing campaign is stirring nationalist passions to the advantage of the country's own strongman, Vladimir Meciar. Fears of a return to intolerant authoritarianism with Meciar again at the helm are more palpable with each day. He has, after all, already managed two miraculous political comebacks when prime minister before finally losing power in last autumn's elections. Ethnic Hungarians, who now have three ministers in government, are acutely aware of what Meciar's return might herald. One of his last legislative gifts was a ban on the Hungarian language on school certificates and the subjugation of Hungarian-language schools to Slovak jurisdiction. In the face of the common threat, all ethnic Hungarian political parties have put aside their ideological differences and banded together to form a national bloc. It is a phenomenon which Slovak political analysts have called "Slovakia's Kosovisation". Nationalists across the border in Hungary are also raising their voice. Although a marginal force in Hungarian politics, they nonetheless have parliamentary representation and are calling for a change of Hungary's southern borders to protect the Hungarian minority in Serbia's northern province of Vojvodina, whom they consider Serb hostages. Janos Martonyi, the country's foreign minister, has denounced the Hungarian nationalists, as has the leader of Vojvodina Hungarians, who has also condemned the NATO intervention, not once but several times. Neither Serbian nor Slovak Hungarians, it seems, wish to see any change of borders. The demands of Hungarian nationalists are, nevertheless, music to the ears of their Slovak counterparts. As ever, extremists feed off and derive strength from each other. Romanians do not require interference from Budapest to feel uneasy about their Hungarian minority, who account for 7.1 per cent of the country's population. Romanians have already declared Serbs to be heroes and view Kosovo as an unwelcome precedent. For them, NATO is now fighting a war of independence on behalf of Kosovo's Albanians. They fear the Hungarian-dominated Transylvania will be next. Small wonder then that NATO-phobia has spread across Romania in the wake of the bombing campaign against Yugoslavia. Only recently enthusiastic about joining the military alliance, many Romanians now view NATO as an aggressor and the United States as an interfering bully, in similar terms to their Serb neighbours. Ordinary Romanians are increasingly at odds with their elected representatives who still aspire to NATO membership. But popular support for Serbia has not gone unnoticed by Romania's Hungarians. The improvement in inter-ethnic relations in Romania over the past decade is by no means irreversible. The democratic consensus between the leadership and the electorate has come under pressure even in those Central and Eastern European countries basking in the safety of relative if not absolute ethnic homogeneity. Again, the trigger has been NATO's offensive against Yugoslavia. Popular opposition to the NATO operation is growing in the Czech Republic. No sooner did Czechs become members of NATO then it ceased being the alliance they had wanted to join in the first place. Czechs sought membership to provide security from
[CTRL] Born in Blood - Peasants Revolt
-Caveat Lector- from: prioryofsion digest 592 http://www.onelist.com The mailing list resource page can be found at the following address http://www.albino.com/circle/pos/ - An interesting list. Om K - Message: 14 Date: Thu, 13 May 99 14:22:53 +0100 ( + ) From: x Subject: Peasants Revolt I read a book recently called Born in Blood by John J Robinson, an American historian. He claims to have started to write a history of the Peasants Revolt but became more involved because he discovered that the revolt had been stage managed by a mysterious organisation. It was not therefore the spontaneous uprising against a poll tax that it was claimed to be. The major targets of the rioting were those religious and secular bodies and individuals that had benefitted ot taken part in the suppression of the Templars. He said that the leader, usually called Watt Tyler was in fact Watt THE Tyler. (The tyler today being the mason responsible for ensuring that only masons enter the temple for meetings and for guarding the doors during meetings. He was presumably once the equivalent of a combined bouncer and enforcer) He goes on to hypothesise that the mysterious organisation was the remnants of the Templars and remained underground and secret until 1717 when it emerged into public as the Freemasons at a time when all chance of a return to the throne of a Roman Catholic monarch had ceased when George I succeeded to the throne on the death of Queen Anne in 1714. He also states that all members of the Royal Society at that date were masons. The Royal Society was founded in 1645 and received its Royal Charter in 1662. Was this the first public outing and part of a recruiting drive in preparation for an expected confirmation of a continuing Protestant rule? Isaac Newton was admitted as a member in 1672 and became President in 1703. There would appear to be a parallel with the POS. Splitting from the Templars to remain secret and then emerging centuries later when some sort of danger had diminished or for a potential purpose. Perhaps the danger still existed or there aims were thwarted. They then had to beat a hasty retreat. The best way to achive this would be to lay a smokescreen and hope that this would be effective. Hence the stories about PP and the allegation of false documents etc. All classical symptoms of the sort of disinformation campaign used by intelligence services to disguise the truth. If the POS was then generally beleived to be a modern invention and not worthy of further consideration, it could continue its role (whatever that is) in secret. An alternative scenario is that the POS may have been the mysterious organisation behind the Peasants Revolt to avenge its sister body and that it founded the Freemasons as a public manifestation to recruit suitable memebers from the masonic ranks. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] May 22, Templar investiture, followed by a dinner dance
-Caveat Lector- from: prioryofsion digest 592 http://www.onelist.com The mailing list resource page can be found at the following address http://www.albino.com/circle/pos/ - An interesting list. Om K - Message: 16 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:26:58 EDT From: Subject: May 22, Templar investiture, followed by a dinner dance If any one has an interest, SOVEREIGN MILITARY ORDER OF THE TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM PRIORY OF ST. MICHAEL ST. GEORGE [Unable to display image] presents the Spring, 1999 Convent, Investiture and dinner dance The Priory of Saint Michael and Saint George of The Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem request the honor of your presence at the Spring, 1999 Convent, Investiture and dinner dance on the evening of Saturday, the twenty-second of May 1999 at The Episcopal Church of the Good Shepherd 240 East 31st Street New York City at the Princeton Club 15 West 43rd Street New York City Event Program Convent, Investiture (at the Church) 6:00 p.m. Cocktails (cash bar) (at the Princeton Club)7:30 p.m. Dinner (wine throughout dinner) 8:30 p.m. Dancing (To the music of Angie Rubino) 9:00 p.m. Kilts White or Black Tie Mess Dress Decorations RSVP with: Chev. Alan Moore, GOTJ @ 732-349-6277 or 732-367-5843 Dame Dominique Anne Voyer, DGCTJ @ 212-249-0919 Chev. Edmund Allen Voyer, GCTJ, GMTJ @ 212-407-0581 OFFICERS OF THE PRIORY OF SAINT MICHAEL AND SAINT GEORGE PRIOR H.E. Chev. Edmund Allen Voyer, GCTJ, GMTJ CHANCELLOR Chev. Dr. Henry Darlington, Jr., GCTJ SECRETARY Chev. Barry Paul Burton, KTJ TREASURER Chev. Alan Moore, GOTJ INSPECTOR Chev. Anthony Maltese, KCTJ CHIEF OF PROTOCOL Chev. MGEN Arthur T. Ellsworth, GCTJ AVOCAT Dame Marie Gillespie, DCTJ SWORD BEARERChev.COL Robert Coe, KCTJ SECRET COUNCILORChev. John Mauk Hilliard, GCTJ, GMTJ REGISTRAR Chev. James Knighton, KCTJ KNIGHT PROTECTORChev. Gregory D. Chambers, KCTJ ARMORER Dame Dominique A. Voyer, DGCTJ AUMONIERChev. Kenneth Trommers, KCTJ STANDARD BEARER Chev. Clyde McDannald, KCTJ CHAPLAINChev. COL Fr. Robert Shea, GOTJ COUNCILLOR Chev. CAPT John Derek Simmons, GOTJ COUNCILLOR HON Dame Livia Sylva, DTJ COUNCILLOR Chev. George Edmund Voyer, GCTJ, GMTJ HERALD Dame Maria deFatima Mendes,DTJ ARCHIVIST Chev. William Swalm, KTJ EDITEUR Chev. Theodore Anderman, KCTJ CHIRURGIEN Chev.Dr. A. Bruce Munro, MD, KCTJ ASSISTANT TREASURER Chev. Malcolm Patterson Keers, KTJ SENESCHAL Companion Max Greenberg, OMTJ OFFICERS OF THE COMMANDERY OF ST. GEORGE OF NEW JERSEY COMMANDER Chev. Alan Moore, GOTJ CHANCELLOR Chev. Kevin Wright, KTJ CHAPLAINChev. Herbert Groce, KTJ R.S.V.P. Chev. Alan Moore, GOTJ (732-349-6277 or 732-367-5843) Treasurer, Priory of St. Michael St. George Commander of the Commandary of St. George 6B Poppy Court, Lakewood, NJ 08701 will attend. Number of guests ___attending at $100.00 per person. Enclosed find $ Payable to SMOTJ. _ will not attend. But a donation of $_ is enclosed. _ Chev. Alan Moore, GOTJ Treasurer, Priory of St. Michael St. George Commander of the Commandary of St. George 6B Poppy Court Lakewood, NJ 08701 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
[CTRL] War profiteers rake in big bucks.
-Caveat Lector- - Via Workers World News Service Reprinted from the May 13, 1999 issue of Workers World newspaper - THE 800-LB. GORILLA IN THE WAR ROOM: WAR PROFITEERS RAKE IN BIG BUCKS OFF ATTACKS ON YUGOSLAVIA By Gary Wilson No one is talking about the huge profits being made by the U.S. military industrial-complex in the war against Yugoslavia. These things aren't supposed to be talked about. Only six months ago all welfare payments to the poorest people in the country began to be phased out because supposedly there was no money. Now that a war is on, suddenly they've found money. The politicians in Washington are fighting over who will give the most money to the military contractors. The White House and the Democrats in Congress first proposed an immediate payoff of $6 billion. The Republicans quickly doubled the offer. This is one side of the U.S./NATO war that's too hot for the big media to handle. What they won't say is that war means big profits for business. And, as has been said, what's good for business is what drives Washington. People across the U.S. have noticed that gas prices at the pump have suddenly gone up, especially on the West Coast where prices have nearly doubled since January. Are they supposed to believe that this has nothing to do with the war, with the U.S. military consumption rising daily at astounding rates? The costs of the war will be borne by working people across the U.S. The soldiers put on the front lines in any ground war will come from the working class. The elite, mostly white male pilots see the war from 20,000 feet up while the three U.S. POWs were working-class kids, the ground troops of the U.S. military. The war will also raise taxes of all kinds. The Republicans have even dropped their demagogy about cutting taxes, with top Republican Sen. Trent Lott saying that the coming Pentagon budget increases mean no more tax cuts. And there will undoubtedly be more cuts in social services that will be declared necessary to fund the war effort. War is really big business. Consider the costs. According to the May 2 New York Times a single B-52 bomber costs $8,300 an hour to operate. The B- 2 costs $5,719 an hour, and because it is based in St. Louis, every B-2 run takes 31 hours. Every warplane costs thousands of dollars per hour to run. And there are hundreds of them over Yugoslavia every night. The Times report quotes a U.S. F-16 pilot saying that there are so many U.S. and NATO war planes over Serbia every night, "it's kind of like New York City traffic up there." They've dropped so many bombs that they've destroyed almost every strictly military target in Yugoslavia. Now they are mostly hitting civilian sites, which the Pentagon generals in charge at NATO then declare to be military targets. The cost of the bombs is so high it's no wonder that there are cheers in the corporate boardrooms. According to the Air Force general who commands U.S. combat planes, Gen. Richard E. Hawley, the Pentagon has almost run out of the satellite- guided missiles fired from B-52 bombers. Production of these missiles has now been speeded up to triple the level before the war. At $2 million each, you can practically hear the military contractors singing the Star Spangled Banner at the top of their lungs. It took two missiles to knock out a passenger train, killing 64 or more people. It took another two missiles to put down a passenger bus in Kosovo, killing 60. One missile hit the bus and another took out an ambulance that was rushing to the scene. The next day another passenger bus was blown to pieces. The Air Force was more frugal this time, only one missile. Of course, the war on Yugoslavia is more than just a place to use up multi-million dollar weapons systems. That's just a part of what drives the war. It is a showcase for the U.S. weapons industry. According to the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Henry Shelton, 90 percent of the bombs used in the war against Yugoslavia are all new designs not seen in combat before. For example, a new ultra-secret redesigned graphite bomb was used to knock out electrical power in all of Serbia. According to John Pike of the Federation of American Scientists, this will now become a hot-selling item in the arms trade. What's also never talked about in the pro-war U.S. media is that the Pentagon generals are running the show. There's hardly a civilian in sight. The media give some attention to the pronouncements of President Bill Clinton and maybe Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, but not too much. All of the media reports come directly from the military, either at NATO headquarters in Brussels or from the Pentagon, where Kevin Bacon tells the media what they should report. Civilian sources for official news in the U.S. have almost completely disappeared. The military has clearly moved into control of the war and control of foreign policy generally. Clinton himself
[CTRL] Polarisation between the bloodliners and the geometricians?
-Caveat Lector- from: prioryofsion digest 592 http://www.onelist.com The mailing list resource page can be found at the following address http://www.albino.com/circle/pos/ - An interesting list. Om K - Message: 9 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:04:10 +0100 From: "xxx Subject: Re: de sede+forged parchments wrote xx is a Mason, I am not. Therefore there is no way I can discredit his theory. I don't support it but I don't deny it either. interestingly the list seems to be polarising at the moment between the bloodliners and the geometricians - i belong to the latter and for the record enough masons have read my book for it to be public knowledge if i were trying to mislead i feel the need to clarify the interesting position of the ign i took the masonic ritual - decoded it and drew a triangle then a square and then a circle on the ign map - exactly as the masonic code dictated - the circle was 9 mile in diameter and was already marked on the ign map by 33 os points - the chances of this happening accidentally are very very low so far all i have proved is that someone at the ign is a freemason and had preceded me with the decoding by putting some os points on one of their maps until you realise that all of these points are further supported by physical features - the serpent rouge - 2 miles long - the pierre dressee - saunieres calvary feature and on and on the physical features will not go away and so it is time to unveil one more such physical feature and this one owes it's discovery to tim maidment who was doing some computer graphics work for me on one of my photos and noticed an extra ordinary feature - a 30 foot high carved head on the side of pech cardou - watching over the pillar in which i suggest that the descending arches are built - you may feel that this is the templars "head of god" i have attached 2 photos - the first of the head and the second after it has been heavily airbrushed to remove the vegetation and infill a chunk broken off the nose i am still awaiting an aerial photo of pech cardou - not easy to obtain and then i will disclose yet another head - or rather a skull - which supports my thesis of pech cardou as the golgotha of the new jerusalem centred on pech cardou regards x = Message: 13 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:18:45 -0400 From: "xx Subject: Re: de sede+parchments From: xxx From: x I really don,t know what it adds up to. That is the problem. We have a variety of geometries and theories regarding them to pick from; body of christ, ark of the covenant, etheric grid technology, treaure and so on. Good point. We don't know what is there. Every theorist has his or her own view and tries to have that view adopted by everyone. i.e. one theory foundation. As for the etheric grids, look at how many cathedrals and monasteries built by the cistercian order lie on these grids. I think you'll be surprised. But it is there, and many of these theses fit together, ie. one mans geometry fits in part to anothers. They are both looking at the same pentagram, as it were, but can,t agree why it may be there or how or when it got there and what the hell it means. My geometries are not based on any other's geometries. If they fit in another's, that is odd indeed. I've given my geometries to the list back in March. They are not based on Poussin's pentagram. They are based on clues left by Sauniere and PP/Corbu/De Sede. The fact that Sauniere himself left a geometry has never been discussed. And I have shared it with everyone. Just as Patrick has shared his with everyone. Sauniere's geometry offers us something very different. Those on the list who have looked at it cannot deny its presence. Just as Patrick's cannot be denied either. The oddity is that out of all the authors, only TofG did not use any landmarks in their shapes. Not a single square uses a landmark, no triangle uses a landmark, no circle uses a landmark in their theory. It is taking 'Out of Darkness comes light' a little too seriously. Something which Sauniere and Boudet could not have fullfilled. We know from testimonials that Sauniere and Boudet placed landmarks, moved a few of them and even reused some elsewhere. Those they could move. Shame. I have been very impressed with xxx book. Likewise ToG actually got a confirmed hit on the geometry (According to JL Chaumeils unveiling of De Cheriseys cypher). At least they got the clues according to the parchments correct (for what thats worth). I don,t buy Woods theories for various reasons, and Simon Miles(www.consciousevolution.com) has an excellent, well researched and highly persuasive site. There are others too. These are just some of the theories I like. We need a unifying theory, and the closest I have seen to this is at the web site. I'll check out the site and give you my opinion later. I've been trying to establish a solid foundation of evidence since the
[CTRL] UK's nuclear deterrent 'undermined by leak'
-Caveat Lector- http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_343000/343755.stm BBC Online Friday, May 14, 1999 Published at 12:42 GMT 13:42 UK UK UK's nuclear deterrent 'undermined by leak' The UK relies on its Trident submarine fleet for its nuclear deterrent Defence experts are warning that the UK's whole nuclear deterrent programme could be seriously undermined by the theft of secrets from a US research centre. Top secret files on the Trident missile system and satellite tracking of ballistic missile submarines are believed to have been obtained by the Chinese from the Los Alamos laboratories. Since the withdrawal of the RAF's free-fall nuclear bomb, the WE177, Trident is the only nuclear system still deployed in the UK. The leak of such sensitive information could have a devastating effect on the ability of the UK to maintain and effective nuclear deterrent, experts warn. Nick Cook, a spokesman for Jane's military information group said getting information on how Trident missiles worked could be the first step in learning how to counter them. He said Trident used a system whereby multiple warheads were released by each missile to hit individual targets. He said: "Some are decoys, and if you know which are decoys you could, theoretically, counter them. "The use of decoys is integral to the Trident system." Mr Cook said that the leak of information on advances in submarine detection systems was of even more concern. He said: "A radar system which has been in development by the UK and the US for the last 20 years detects submarines by finding the minute wake that even deep diving subs leave on the surface. "It is incredibly complicated technology, not just the radar system but the computer technology which sifts out different kinds of wave patterns to detect a submarine's wake. "The Royal Navy prides itself on its ability to conceal its submarines from detection. "Staying invisible is everything when it comes to nuclear deterrent. "If you can find a submarine, you can destroy it, either by conventional means or, or if things had escalated to the point where it might be using its nuclear missiles, you could drop a nuclear bomb on it." He said the incident might reawaken the controversy over the withdrawal of nuclear capability from the RAF. 'Extremely worrying' Mr Cook said: "When the RAF gave up its nuclear deterrent to the Navy, there was a certain amount of bitterness. "It may be that some people in Whitehall may now be saying to ministers 'we told you so'. "They would say that if you rely on one pillar of nuclear deterrent, and if that is damaged in any way, you are wholly exposed. "The nuclear deterrent is so sensitive that even the suggestion that information has got into the wrong hands is extremely worrying." 'No threat' to subs Dr Eric Grove, deputy director of the Centre for Security Studies at the University of Hull, said that although the theft of secrets would be an embarrassment, he felt it was not a disaster for the UK's nuclear strategy. Dr Grove said: "Even if the Chinese knew how to find a submarine, the coverage they would need to detect one with any accuracy, particularly one that was trying to hide itself, would be enormous. "To do this effectively would probably take up the entire Chinese defence programme. "The problems of implementing it are very considerable indeed and it certainly doesn't make ballistic missile submarines obsolete. "I don't want to be complacent, but it isn't a security disaster. "Even once you have found a submarine, you need the assets to take it on and sink it. "This would mean having your own fleet of nuclear attack submarines, which the Chinese have made a start on, but don't have anything yet that would pose a threat to British or American submarines." Dr Grove said the threat to submarines from Chinese missiles was "virtually non-existent" outside of Chinese waters, and one of the advantages of the Trident submarines was that the missiles had a range as far as 5000 miles. A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence said: "We are not willing to discuss matters relating to intelligence or the operational detail of the nuclear deterrent." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html
[CTRL] OEN 5/15/07
-Caveat Lector- But some people argued that [Serbian] Internet access should be cut off. "Continuing to provide these services would be kind of like giving aid to the enemy," one person wrote. LOS ANGELES (Dissociated Press, May 15, 2007) -- Facing its 806th day of "protective containment" by Chinese, Greater Russian, and Kurdistani troops operating under the auspices of the United Nations Peace Force, this "City of the Angels" has begun to resemble, instead, one of the circles of Hell in Dante's Inferno. The Peace Force's naval blockade of the Pacific Rim, plus its satellite-controlled laser-mining of airspace over the three No-Fly Zones on the city's northern, eastern, and southern borders, have in effect surgically excised the region from the rest of Mexico del Norte and the former "United States." Resisting rather than welcoming the humanitarian peacekeepers securing its borders, the city's white male Euro-American elite has continued to exercise dictatorial control over its abject multicultural "underclass," holding hostage millions of ethnic Africans, Latin Americans, and Asians, for whom any flight to freedom elsewhere has been made impossible.. The Korean and Vietnamese populations have been decimated by the atrocities already inflicted on ethnic Chinese campaign contributors by the jackbooted Angeleno Gestapo, whose watchword in English translates as "All Gooks Look Alike, Especially When They're Dead." The few surviving ethnic Africans, now a minority, have had their ranks purged by being forbidden by law from engaging in any occupation except four -- kitchen helper in state-controlled "McDonald's" units, unarmed security guard (used as a human shield when defending real estate owned by members of the ruling council), "sports star" in a variety of brutal human cockfights conducted for the amusement of sadistic white audiences, or "entertainer" performing on Disney-owned G-MTV (Gospel Music Television for Obedient Christian Negroes) . The "American" majority --those of Mexican and Central or South American origin-- has fared somewhat better, but not by far, because the city's white ruling class, after depriving them of "citizenship" back in 2002, early last year began rounding them up in house-by-house "sweeps" and transporting everyone without a Municipal Identity Card to an arid region on the eastern perimeter of the City, there granting them "autonomy" -- in ghettos surrounded on all sides by armed government patrols of Caucasian ethnicity. In such a setting as this arose the liberty-loving Aztlan Liberation Army, whose violent suppression by the Angeleno Gestapo in late 2004 so shocked the world, signalling the beginning of regional outbreaks of "ethnic cleansing" in the one-time "United States" and requiring that the UN respond as did NATO in the Balkan Action of 1999 to 2002. Much like NATO in those days, but now with greater sophistication thanks to long and hard experience subsequently --e.g., in Panmunjom, United Korea in 2000, in Bogota (headquarters of SATO) in 2002, and in old Istanbul (now Jihadabad, capital of the Shi'ite League) from 2000 to 2004-- the United Nations Peace Force has exercised its humanitarian authority in an appropriately non-lethal fashion, targeting renegade Los Angeles' infrastructure rather than threatening the lives of any of its citizens. Accordingly, on the 60th day of ideological quarantine, LA's electrical power was permanently shut down by UN use of perpetually cycling EMP generators, and a month later (coincidentally, during the region's worst winter since 1998), its oil pipelines and gas reserves were selectively bombed -- cutting off the heat after turning out the lights. 75 days later, LA's telephone lines were cut, and its radio, television, and alternative microwave communications signals blocked through continuous electronic jamming. After two months, due to the intransigence of the Angeleno oligarchy, it became necessary to tighten the UN blockade's restrictions even further, preventing the rebels from importing food and medicine (since neither could now be FDA-approved). Two years later, as Day 807 of the SoCal Crisis approaches, unconfirmed sources have leaked that now, more extreme humanitarian measures will be taken to teach the Angelenos the error of their ways. Fifteen B-52s stationed at the Sitting Bull Air Force Base in Las Vegas are fueling up for "Operation Yellow Snow" -- a special mission involving high-tech "cloudbusting," aimed at making LA's water supply undrinkable. Simultaneously, the HAARP-II facility in Fairbanks, Russia is firing up to send a jet stream of air laced with neurotoxins into the Los Angeles basin, and keep it there, for as long as it takes the rebels to realize that they can't breathe their own smog anymore. The Peace Force regrets the gravity of these last two steps necessitated by the never-ending story called the SoCal Crisis, but the UN has run out of humane
[CTRL] Oops! NATO Kills 84 Refugees
-Caveat Lector- NATO Probes Strike on Civilians By CANDICE HUGHES .c The Associated Press BELGRADE, Yugoslavia (AP) -- NATO acknowledged today its jets struck a village where dozens of ethnic Albanian refugees were reported killed but said it was going after ``military positions'' there. Yugoslav media reported Friday that 84 people were killed and 56 injured after NATO jets attacked Korisa, where 500 ethnic Albanians were spending the night. Survivors said they had spent weeks in a nearby forest hiding from Serb forces before stopping in the village. The 19-nation alliance issued a statement today after an overnight review describing the village as ``a legitimate military target.'' ``NATO identified Korisa as a military camp and command post,'' the alliance said. ``Military equipment including an armored personnel carrier and more than 10 pieces of artillery were observed at this location. The aircraft observed dug-in military positions at the target before executing the attack.'' The statement said NATO could not confirm the casualty figures given by the Serb authorities, nor the reasons why civilians were at the location at the time of the attack. ``NATO deeply regrets accidental civilian casualties that were caused by this attack,'' it said. NATO spokesman Jamie Shea, talking to the British Broadcasting Corp., suggested that the refugees may have been used as human shields to protect military equipment deployed in the village. ``One of the problems we have is that we are up against an adversary who is without any scruples when it comes to mixing his armed forces in with internally displaced persons ... and even ... using these as human shields on bridges,'' Shea said. ``But we have to attack those forces because otherwise we cannot stop the ethnic cleansing,'' he added. Milisav Paic, a spokesman for the Yugoslav foreign ministry, dismissed claims that Serbs were using refugees as human shields. ``There is no doubt it was NATO who carried out the raids against civilians and they cannot just simply try to get rid of any responsibility,'' he said. Reporters taken to Korisa, near Prizren in southern Kosovo, saw dozens of bodies. Tractors lay charred and wrecked, some still burning hours after the attack. Two craters, apparently caused by bombs, were visible on the roadside. Amid wrecked buildings and smoldering tractors, a group of 50 crying women and children huddled in the cellar of a village home, trying to decide what to do next. ``I don't know the exact number (killed). Many. Everyone was sleeping,'' said one dazed survivor, Feriz Emini. On April 14, 75 refugees were killed when NATO mistakenly attacked a convoy near Djakovica. NATO admits other accidental strikes against a residential neighborhood in Nis; a civilian bus on a bridge in Kosovo; a passenger train; a village in southern Serbia; and most notably the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade. At the U.N. headquarters in New York, the Security Council adopted a statement which expresses the council's ``profound regrets over the bombing and deep sorrow for the loss of lives, injuries and property damage caused by the bombing.'' An agreement on the statement's wording was reached only after hours of debate, which revealed deep divisions between NATO countries and Russia and China. Nevertheless, NATO kept up its offensive today, striking targets across Kosovo in what state-run media called ``ceaseless'' raids. NATO said today it hit a ``full range'' of Serbian ground forces, both in Kosovo and in Serbia. Overnight, NATO aircraft flew 592 sorties with more than half the strikes aimed at the Yugoslav air defense system, a NATO statement said. Other targets included tanks, armored vehicles, artillery pieces, radars, airfields, bridges, munition and petroleum storage sites as well as army troops. The state-run Tanjug news agency reported that NATO forces struck unidentified targets near Prizren, Djakovica and Lipljan on Friday night. It also said NATO jets were active in the skies over the provincial capital, Pristina. NATO wants the total withdrawal of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic's forces from Kosovo, a province of Yugoslavia's Serb republic, and the return of the refugees, as well as the deployment of an international peacekeeping force. About 780,000 ethnic Albanians have left Kosovo, which had a prewar population of 2 million, since NATO bombings aimed at forcing Milosevic to accept a Western-dictated peace plan began March 24. NATO reported its heaviest bombing of the seven-week air campaign against Yugoslavia from Thursday night to Friday morning. The alliance said it concentrated attacks against the 40,000 Serb troops and special police in Kosovo, hitting heavy armor and arms supplies hidden in tunnels. Bombing was particularly intense around Prizren. During daylight attacks, NATO warplanes roared over Kosovo and other parts of Serbia, hitting two military barracks, state-controlled media reported. At Kargujevac,
[CTRL] Fwd: Student Bill Clinton 'spied' on Americans abroad for CIA
I have never read the story re Bill Clinton the informer; however, it sure fits in with a conspiracy theory..it is my believe that William Jefferson Clinton is a crack cocaine madman. Stop and think.a Rhodes Scholar with drug connections - and then consider the kids in Littleton gunned down by two kids who obvioiusly were on some kind of a drug. Bill Clinton's drug addiction; it was a plain as the nose on his face - that is why he had the plastic surgery done on his nose, and it is for certain he did.crack cocaine often affects the nose of its users. This would also maybe explain the bags under his eyes which come with the use of drugs from time to time. This madman is sitting in our White House; he has smirked and smiled through the Littleton affair and the war with the Serbs. Now what did Clinton and the Littleton kids have in common? They are killers.suddenly, without warning, these kids and Clinton, turned into vicious killers.these kind gentle people turned into K-9 attach dogs at the drop of a hat. the Meyer Lanskey http://www.assumption.edu/WebVAX/ETnew/wclin09Jun96.html
[CTRL] Another Banker Becomes Head of State
-Caveat Lector- Chinese Banker Picked To Lead Macau By TARA SUILEN DUFFY .c The Associated Press MACAU (AP) -- A banker educated in Canada won a landslide victory today to become the first Chinese to lead the tiny enclave of Macau in more than four centuries, the final step before the territory returns to China's control. Edmund Ho defeated Stanley Au, also a local banker, in the historic election to lead the peninsula which covers 8 1/2 square miles at the tip of south China. The landmark vote is the last major political event before Macau, the oldest European settlement in Asia, returns Chinese rule for the first time in 442 years. Portugal, the longtime colonial ruler, hands over power in the predominantly Chinese enclave Dec. 20, ending the era of western colonization in China and Asia. Like nearby Hong Kong, a former British colony which reverted to Chinese rule in July 1997, Macau will become a largely self-governing ``Special Administrative Region.'' Ho pledged to ``resolutely implement the principle of 'one country, two systems','' which guarantees Macau autonomy, and would ensure ``a smooth transition and the stability and prosperity of Macau.'' Ho, 44, director and general manager of his family's Tai Fung Bank, was selected by a 199-member Selection Committee by secret ballot. The vote was 163-24. The selection process was the same as that used to choose Hong Kong's Chief Executive Tung Chee-hwa, a shipping magnate, who has been leading that former British colony since it reverted to Chinese sovereignty in July 1997. ``Today Macau people are electing their own leader,'' said Chinese Vice Premier Qian Qichen, who came from Beijing to preside over the election. This will contribute to ``Macau's long-term stability and development,'' Qian said. Ho commanded wide community support because of his late father's connections as well as his own consensus political style. His father, Ho Yin, was once dubbed ``Mr. Macau'' for dominating local politics for decades before his death in 1983. Ho, who is also vice chairman of the 23-member legislature, is the only person from Macau in the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress, China's most powerful lawmaking body. Ho now faces the daunting task of stamping out Chinese gangs, who are engaged in a bloody turf war that has claimed 15 lives so far this year. Gambling is the backbone of Macau's economy. After his victory, Ho reiterated his promise to crack down on gang crimes, stem collusion between officials and powerful mobsters, and reform the gambling industry, which has bred the gang war over lucrative profits from the casino tables. Ho himself has admitted he might have done business with people with gang background, but insisted he had never done anything illegal. To rein in the violence, China plans to station troops in the tiny enclave after the handover, an issue the two sides are still negotiating. Portugal says the plan violates an earlier understanding. Negotiations between Lisbon and Beijing on the transition have been smooth in general. State Department spokesman James P. Rubin said Friday that the United States supports the Sino-Portuguese agreement which guarantees Macau's autonomy. The United States hopes the chief executive election ``will contribute to the stability of the transition,'' Rubin said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Thank Kissinger for Chinagate
-Caveat Lector- Memo Underlines Importance of China By GEORGE GEDDA .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- Eager to strengthen relations with China, a newly acquired Cold War partner, the United States in 1974 embarked on a systematic plan to loosen security ties with Taiwan, including the withdrawal of nuclear weapons. The U.S. strategy was outlined in a recently declassified memo from Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger to President Ford not long after Ford replaced President Nixon in August 1974. The 17-page memo, stamped ``top secret,'' was obtained by the National Security Archive, a private group that publishes declassified documents acquired through the Freedom of Information Act. Kissinger said he wanted to establish full relations with China by mid-1976, but that step was not taken until early 1979, midway through the Carter administration. Simultaneously, the administration ended diplomatic and security relations with Taiwan. But the loosening of ties with Taiwan was well under way before then. In 1974, as part of a substantial reduction in U.S. military forces on Taiwan, Kissinger said, ``We will remove all U-2 (spy) planes from Taiwan this year and we shall remove all nuclear weapons which are on Taiwan this year.'' Japan's Kyodo News Agency, which first reported on the Kissinger memo, said it was known previously that the United States had deployed nuclear-capable missiles in Taiwan in 1957, but the memo offered the first proof that nuclear weapons had actually been deployed on Taiwan. Kissinger wrote that China had been informed that the United States intended to ``disengage from our military presence and our military supply relations'' with Taiwan by early 1977, when the Ford administration ended. The memo underscored how much the United States prized its fledgling relationship with China at the time. The two countries viewed each other as useful counterweights to their common enemy, the Soviet Union. Washington and Beijing have had less success in finding common ground since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Nowadays, suspicions abound. Following the NATO bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia last week, ties between the two countries have been at a low point. In his memo, Kissinger said China was resisting American efforts at the time to arrange for some form of U.S. representation on Taiwan after U.S.-Chinese relations were established. China also balked at U.S. efforts to win a commitment from Beijing for a peaceful resolution of the question of reunification between China and Taiwan. In a gesture to China, Kissinger said the United States was keeping Beijing ``meticulously informed'' about U.S. dealings with Moscow and had pledged ``never to make any agreement with the Soviet Union that is directed at China. We will not collude with Moscow against Beijing in any form.'' At another point, Kissinger said, ``If the Soviet Union attacks China, the United States would regard this as a threat to international stability and American security.'' In a further effort to mollify China, Kissinger said the United States was seeking to end the U.N. military presence in South Korea, a Chinese adversary in the Korean War. Those efforts never bore fruit, and the U.N. command remains there 25 years later. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Ireland first!: Welcome, thanks for visiting!.
The subject matter Ireland First is well worth reading - read about the holoaust in Ireland - the gencide of the English against the Irish. With the upcoming marriage of the Orange and the Green quite possible, I ran across the item, and if you read it in its entirety you see Bill Clinton and Tony Blair in action..genocide of biblical proportation being undertaken in the name of humanity. Read your bible - please. The acts of genocide are fully described and planned well in advance. Bill Clinton has been a Nazi in disguise - the one that Huey Long warned about years, and years ago, prior to being assassinatedwhen fascism comes it will come in disguiseand Hitler took a role in the bible, that Bill Clinton now plays. Somehow, I keep thinking of Prince Philips remark "when people get crowded they get like rats".so, the Pied Piper leads the ratslike Legion and the swine..to their deaths. Madam Helene Blatvatsky's lemming theory. Clinton is insane he should be checked for drug use on a regular basisdo they not require this of the Civil Service? And the Military. Colleen Is Clinton the stuff of which Rhodes Scholars are made? http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7652/index.html
[CTRL] Strange Sewage Hits Utah
-Caveat Lector- If you've read any of Charles Fort's books, below will be of interest. e.g. in "Book of the Damned" Fort documents cases of strange things falling from the sky, like frogs, fish, over periods of many years. Saturday May 15 2:17 AM ET Sewage Splatters Salt Lake Valley By PAUL FOY Associated Press Writer SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - Maybe it's a bird, maybe it's a plane. But it is certainly sewage. And it's no joke in the Salt Lake Valley, where gobs of thick, raw sewage have fallen from the sky a dozen times since April 9, soiling as many as seven houses at once. Neighbors are pointing fingers at aircraft, but the Federal Aviation Administration says commercial jets aren't designed to jettison sewage. A biplane was spotted before one attack, but federal agents said the tip didn't pan out. Sheriff's deputies are studying ``splatter patterns'' and firefighters are hosing down houses. Prosecutors have assigned an investigator to the case and authorities are issuing stern warnings. ``It has never been funny,'' said Mayor Janice Auger of hard-hit suburban Taylorsville. ``The experience is really gross. The smell is terrible. This is a health issue. There's a lot of diseases in fecal matter.'' ``It is feces, but they can't tell if it's animal or human,'' sheriff's Capt. Lee Smith said of the first lab tests on the foul emissions. The initial strikes have spawned crude, ground-launched copycats, and edgy residents are reporting even minor bird droppings on their cars. Tom Perkins says it would take a ``600-pound pigeon with diarrhea'' to produce the coverage that prompted his son to ask, ``Dad, what's all the mud doing on the house?'' It took 500 gallons of water and 30 gallons of bleach to clean the home that is 2,000 feet below a flight path where jets glide at 200 mph toward Salt Lake City International Airport. The FAA has all but ruled out jets as a culprit, saying their toilet tanks can be flushed only from an exterior valve. Any leak would contain a telltale bluish disinfectant, the FAA and aircraft manufacturers say, and none of the splatterings had a trace of blue. The FAA, no stranger to reports of weird phenomena, doesn't know what to make of the mess. ``We never heard anything like this,'' agency spokesman Mitch Barker said, ``nothing like what's been going on in Salt Lake.'' _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Strange Sewage Hits Utah
-Caveat Lector- Weren't there reports of blue cattle? Is this why Orin Hatch changed his mind about gun control.the Mighty Ducks are bombing his beloved state with sewage, not be satisfied with shooting up his beloved Mormon Library where all those secret records are kept on family trees, etc? Have the Mighty Ducks laid a few big eggs over Utah - Is the AFB still at Ogden Utah. No wonder Orin Hatch was so frantic today; its bad enough they are shooting pigeons - but are the big birds now dumping back? colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Oops! NATO Kills 84 Refugees
-Caveat Lector- Well, I just read an article how distressed Mrs. Clinton was with all the killing over there where she attempts to attract the attention the late Princess of Wales received by the public...I did not see anybody falling at Hillary's feet as yet. Insincere - that best describes Hilliary going to a war zone..my, how painful it must hav been for her to witness the deeds of her husband's mass murder. Princess Diana had a soft quality, a sweetness and gentleness, that was natural; she still had an innocence that even her Prince Charming could not destroy.. Mrs. Clinton is hard, bullish, course, and crude. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Am very distressed!
-Caveat Lector- (Use your own judgement in determining re-distribution.) Looks like we have a psycho in our WH! He has done such severe damage to our Nation I wonder if we can survive until January, 2001. It appears the first sign was his murder of all those innocent people, including babies, at WACO. Am very concerned for our individual security. "Something" has to be done. "The ancient and honorable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail. For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed." --- Isaiah 9:15,16 Is President Clinton a Sociopath? by Sarah Thompson, M.D. 9/28/98 Several people have asked me about the many statements being made regarding President Clinton's mental health. He has been labeled by some as a "sex addict", by some as a "sociopath", by some as suffering from being an "adult child of an alcoholic". Some people claim that we should not hold him responsible for his misconduct because he is "ill". Some propose that he invoke Article 25 of the Constitution to declare himself temporarily unable to discharge the duties of President, that he enter into some sort of therapy, and resume office when he is "cured". From a strict medical and psychiatric standpoint, there is no such disorder as "sexual addiction", although it is possible to diagnose a "sexual disorder" in someone who is distressed about using a succession of people for sexual gratification. Personally, I believe that "sex addiction" is not a medical or psychiatric disorder, but rather an attempt to avoid responsibility by medicalizing misbehavior. In other words, "It's not my fault, I'm addicted to sex", just doesn't convince me at all. On a related note, there are psychiatric disorders in which a person may behave in sexually inappropriate ways, and in some cases persons so affected truly do not understand that their behavior is wrong or may be unable to control that behavior. But even in those cases, the person remains responsible for any damage or emotional distress caused by such behavior. Finally there are people who are mentally incompetent. Both competency and insanity are legal, not medical terms, and such a determination can be made only by a judge or jury. Clearly if Mr. Clinton is too incompetent to manage his own affairs, or if he is insane, he is unfit to serve as President. That one is an "adult child of an alcoholic (ACOA)" is also not a psychiatric diagnosis. It is true that certain thought and behavior patterns occur more often in people who were raised by an alcoholic parent. But ACOA is a way of conceptualizing certain behavior patterns, not an illness. It is not diagnostic, but rather descriptive. It is a tool used to help children of alcoholics, their families, and their therapists better understand their particular psychological vulnerabilities. And of course, ACOA is not deterministic; some people raised by alcoholic parents do not develop psychological or behavioral problems. Finally we come to sociopathy, although the current terminology is "Antisocial Personality Disorder". Antisocial Personality Disorder is a specific psychiatric diagnosis. I'd like to simply be able to say that Mr. Clinton either does or does not have Antisocial Personality Disorder. But it's not that simple. First of all, I (like most other psychiatrists) consider it to be highly unethical to diagnose a person whom I have not interviewed in person. I have never met, much less interviewed Mr. Clinton, so I will not diagnose him. So any conclusions I may draw are my opinion. It may be an educated opinion, but I want to be very clear that I am not diagnosing anyone in absentia. Secondly, psychiatric diagnosis, according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, (DSM-IV), is bit like ordering from a Chinese menu. To be diagnosed with a specific disorder, a person must meet so many criteria from section A, so many from section B, none from section C, for example. Personally, I'm not convinced that this is the best approach to diagnosis, but as the name implies, the system is used for statistical evaluations also, and concrete criteria are absolutely necessary for accurate statistics. So for the curious and the armchair psychiatrists among us, I'm posting the full description of Antisocial Personality Disorder along with the diagnostic criteria. Antisocial personality disorder is, by definition, a mental illness. However, what is or is not a psychiatric disorder is not absolute. It is determined by a committee of psychiatrists, and is subject to change. For example, homosexuality was considered a mental disorder until the 1970's, but it is no longer included in the list of psychiatric disorders. Therefore you should read the description and criteria for yourself, and draw your own conclusion as to whether or not antisocial behavior is a mental disorder. I believe a strong case may be made for either
[CTRL] Impeach klintoon again [include algore this time]
-Caveat Lector- http://www.impeachclinton.org/mailbag.html Impeachclinton.org: Mailbag What Americans are saying about www.impeachclinton.org and our efforts to bring about impeachment... Post-impeachment Comment It's amazing. I think it, and you guys publish it! Your latest newsletter is a breath of fresh air. I have contacted Congressman Barr, and will continue to support his efforts, and yours, to cleanse the government of the vermin called [the] Clinton [Administration]. God bless you people. I sleep a little bit easier at night knowing you are on the case. For the sake of my country, and especially my young son, please keep the announcements and info coming. I really appreciate it all, more than you can possibly know!! Your constituent always, Eric-Scott Bloom Tempe, AZ Fan Mail Congratulations on an excellent impeachment Website. .. At best we seem to have a felony perjurer in the Oval Office, at worst, a traitor. -Michael Kreca San Diego, Calif. " I am a 56 year-old grandmother who is frightened for our country if Clinton is not brought to justice. I am Democrat who did not vote for Clinton because of Jennifer Flowers and Mr. Clinton's stand on Vietnam. ." Susan Reitman I was a Democrat for forty some years and because of the corruption of this White House, namely Clinton, I changed my affixations to Republican in Clinton's first term of office. I don't know where they are getting their polls from it sure isn't from this part of New Mexico. To make a deal with Clinton is like making a deal with the any criminal such as a murder, an embezzler or any other law breaker. - I. Dictson This is the best Website I have ever come across. - Nathan Pearson I heard about this site from Tom Fintton, "Morning View", NET. This is great! I've been trying to find a "list" of all the offenses that Clinton is guilty of, and this is the place. - Nancy Spanial Your web site is fantastic. I agree with you 100% that Slick Willie should go! He is a disgrace to the country. I find it hard to believe that with his sexual problems, his lies etc. that people are still rating him high. - Theodore R. York Picked up your home page from a link on the London Telegraph. I find it interesting that sometimes that better, more balanced news of this whole sordid affair is being reported in Europe. - Jay Goode, Plano, Texas I am S very glad to find this!!! I sent it to all my friends and family! I signed the petition along with my husband. We are So Very Thankful for this movement. - Robin Kuritz I think what you are doing is right and just! As a 20 year Veteran of the US military, I think the Presidency has been compromised and the American public has been led astray into thinking the President has done nothing wrong. You can be assured that I will do my part to make your web page public to as many as possible. Thanks for a job well done!. - Mikel D. Krause, USN, Ret I am hoping the petitions and this committee is/are the silver bullets needed to dispatch the target. Please continue your efforts until the nation is rid of the scrooge now inhabiting the White House. Thank you. - Allison Buehre Thank you for your response, I visit your site frequently thank you for your work. It is obvious that the current president is a grave threat to national security. -Michael Parks Best wishes from, , Orange County (Florida). It is not just my imagination - there is a real grass roots political movement forming up. Let us know if we can help! -David G. Barron I support you guys 1000%. Clinton is a 1st class creep and a Tax Baron. He belongs in Prison not the White House. - John Evangelisti, Sacramento, CA I am a student at St. George's School in Newport, RI. My school is holding a debate on the topic of whether to or to not impeach President Clinton. I have been appointed to the side to argue that he should be immediately. I found your web page and found it very useful. - Paul Schmid, Newport, RI I was glad to find your website. Since the mainstream news-media (TV networks, newspapers, even tabloids!) is in BED with their golden boy, Clinton, it's difficult to find any news that hasn't been diluted or given a pro-Clinton slant. - Paul Mica I'm beginning to feel like the only sober person in a roomful of roaring drunks oblivious to their surroundings--how can this blatant liar garner a 79% approval rating? - John Borgman "Thank you so much for
[CTRL] Tea Leaves Indicate Ground Troops (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "TEA LEAVES" INDICATE GROUND TROOPS === (CNNS, 05/15/99) -- In the previous press release, this news service noted that what we called "reading the tea leaves" was one of the ways to bypass propaganda. By being alert for the subtext in mainstream news reports, good information is sometimes obtained. Yes, the mass media and the government are liars, but they are sloppy liars. They make mistakes. They inadvertantly give clues to the alert. On May 14, 1999, CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) wrote that a network report mentioning "future sufferings, during winter, of Kosovo refugees, contains a hidden message: subtext -- that this war may drag on for awhile." [1] Today, in an Op-Ed column in the New York Times, Anthony Lewis corroborates the CNNS interpretation. Lewis writes, in part, that "Officials in charge of aid to the refugees in camps in Macedonia and Albania have been told to begin thinking about winterizing the camps. The implication must be that there is no confidence of success for the air campaign by September. The refugees are reported to be losing hope of an early return." [2] Is that a light we see at the end of the tunnel? No, it's a freight train, and it's coming right at us. Victory is not just around the corner. Anthony Lewis, writing in the Establishment media outlet, the New York Times, sounds the drumbeat for U.S. ground troops to be inserted into Yugoslavia. "Over the last 10 days the bombing has become far heavier. But there is still profound doubt that air power alone can achieve NATO's objectives." [3] A warning circulating on Internet states that there is "a possibility that NATO is preparing a staged massacre of Albanian refugees to get the excuse to attack Yugoslavia from all sides and in that way defy the decisions made by the US Congress." [4] The message claims that CNN (Cable News Network) has hurriedly dispatched extra personnel and equipment to the region. "CNN has sent three full crews to Albania equipped with satellite broadcasting equipment. Knowing their reputation, they always get sent to the crisis area 'before' anything starts so that they can prepare for the coverage of the 'unexpected' event." [5] In a recent phone conversation with Sherman Skolnick, head of the highly-regarded Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, he indicated that Bill Clinton is under great pressure from the Establishment that he must deliver a victory in the Balkans -- or else. Bill Clinton, contrary to impressions, did not originate the current conflict on his own initiative, no more than any U.S. president ever starts a war on their own. Lurking behind the facade of their gifted actor and frontman, Bill Clinton, are the real rulers of America. And they have ordered Clinton to deliver.Escalated bombing is still not doing the job. Intentional targeting of Serb civilians and of non-military targets has not weakened the Yugoslav will to resist. So Bill Clinton must increase the pressure. As reported by CNNS and elsewhere, the Clinton White House is about to pump up the pro-war propaganda barrage here in the U.S. Now joining the Clinton spin doctors is PR expert Leslie Dach. Dach "will try to spread the word about interesting stories of individual refugee families, of heroic humanitarian relief work, of Serbian atrocities against Muslims remaining in Kosovo." [6] The title of this CNNS report is "'Tea Leaves' Indicate Ground Troops." The indications are that the strategy of exclusive air attack is not succeeding. The indications are that an escalated pro-war propaganda blitz is to be unleashed in the U.S. The indications are that this war will not be resolved any time soon. And the facts are that USA/NATO, since conflict began on March 24th, have continually escalated their attacks. The signposts say that just down the road, in Mission Creep, there are ground troops. --- Notes --- [1] "Confusing Signs In NATO War." CNNS, 5/14/99. [2] "At Home Abroad: On a Wing and a Prayer?" by Anthony Lewis. NYTimes Op-Ed, 5/15/99. [3] Ibid. [4] "A warning on US intentions re Yugoslavia." Message forwarded by Rolf Martens. Message apparently originates with "Editions" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and/or MarijanaGlisic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [5] Ibid. [6] "Spin the Battle: White House Hires PR Expert to Handle Kosovo," by Ann Compton. ABCNEWS.com, 5/13/99. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-79, Day 53, Update 1 (May 15; 0:30AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. We invite you to visit our Photo Album section (http://www.truthinmedia.org/Kosovo/tim-stmt.html) which has just been updated with many new and dramatic photos of NATO's war on Serbia. Issue S99-79, Day 53, Update 1 -- May 15, 1999; 0:30AM EDT HEADLINES Korisa 1. NATO (Again!) Hits Albanian Refugee Column Killing Almost 100 Venice 2. "NATO Calamari" Can Blow Up in Your Face Helsinki 3. Chernomyrdin Looks for Partner in Betrayal New Delhi 4. Russia Still Working the Triangle? Chengdu 5. Chinese Students Apologize to Clinton: Sorry We Didn't Know We Burnt U.S. Consulate Based on Old Maps Washington 6. Clinton Ponders Cutting Off Serb Internet Access -- 1. NATO (Again!) Hits Albanian Refugee Column Killing Almost 100 KORISA, May 14 - At least 100 Albanian refugees were killed and many others were wounded when NATO attacked a column of refugees near Korisa, northeast of Prizren (see the map at our Web site, as well as the photos). The Kosovo Albanians were reportedly trying to return to their homes when they were struck, the Serb media reported today. The bombing seems like a carbon-copy of the Apr. 14 NATO attack on a column of Albanian refugees in Kosovo in which over 70 people were killed (Day 23, Update 1, Item 2, Apr. 15). Except that this attack happened at night, shifting the possible blame from the pilot to the NATO guidance systems. NATO spokesman, Jamie Shea, said NATO was "investigating" the incident. "NATO does not target civilians," he said. --- TiM Ed.: Yeah, right. Try that "lie and deny" spin on the 1,200 civilians which NATO has already killed, and over 5,000 which it has maimed. --- According to a TiM Serbian source who had heard a testimony by an old Albanian on the local Radio-IN, most of the casualties were the Albanian women and children. The NATO bombs fell around midnight on the heaviest night of NATO's attack so far in its 52-day war on Serbia, according to an Agence France Presse report. --- 2. "NATO Calamari" Can Blow Up in Your Face VENICE, May 14 - Fishing around Venice sure isn't what it used to be before NATO's attack on Serbia. Nowadays, the "NATO calamari" catch can sometimes explode in their face, instead of pleasing the customers' taste buds. As the three Italian fishermen found out earlier this week when a NATO bomb, entangled in their net, exploded, injuring them. So Italy on Friday asked NATO to explain the origins of bombs that have been snagged in fishing nets in international waters in the northern Adriatic Sea, the Reuters news wire reported today. --- TiM Ed.: Get this... Italy, a NATO country, having to have "NATO explain" why its people are being hurt by NATO!? Are there two NATOs? One NATO, a "superior being" based in Brussels and commanded from Washington, and another for the rest of the alliance "vassal-members," such as Italy. Whose government has to beg the "Superior Beings" (a nickname for Gen. Wesley Kanne Clark) for information about its people who are being hurt. --- An Italian government statement said NATO had been asked "for information needed to shed light" on the recent episodes. The explosives were found in the nets of several boats some 25 miles southeast of Venice in international waters. The statement said the bombs were not Italian-made and not used by Italy's air force. A subsequent Bloomberg news report quoted the NATO Maj. Gen. Walter Jertz as saying that, in order to land safely on aircraft carriers, NATO pilots jettison the bombs which had been activated but not used, so as to make sure they don't explode on landing. --- TiM Ed.: And what about the Italian fishermen? Guess they are as expendable as are the Serb civilians. The NATO monsters evidently don't care if some of the "calamari" the Italians eat these days may be mixed with blood. Human blood. Italian blood. As long as the NATO pilots land safely. That's some "humanitarian mission" - this "Kosovo Crisis" - manufactured by the "Wag the Dog" crews in Washington. --- 3. Chernomyrdin Looks for Partner in Betrayal HELSINKI, May 14 - Boris Yeltsin "special envoy" for the Balkans, Viktor Chernomyrdin, read "Serb Backstabber-in-Chief" (see S99-73, Day 49, Update 1, Item 3, May 11 and S99-69, Day 45, Update 1, Item 1, May 7), was sent by Yeltsin to Helsinki today to seek some company before his trip to Belgrade next week, the Bloomberg news wire reported today. Chernomyrdin met with Martti Ahtisaari, the Finnish prime minister, this week, as did the U.S. deputy secretary of
[CTRL] Fwd: twisting more of WRENCH
Read the columnists. Be careful. Some are to be taken very seriously, (William Safire). Some perform no other function than to divert your attention from real issues' They publish some "asleep" columnists for just this reason. Most often the humour of Art Buchwald and Russell Baker is on two levels. If you only get one level, you are not getting the message. William Safire is very aware, and not very funny. There are levels to his language pieces. I had a girlfriend who just loved Safire. Read him constantly and never, ever, understood a thing he was saying. And this was a very bright lady in publishing! He refers to himself as a "lexiconic irregular". He means soldier, not verb, a hit man for the ruling elite. He is unique in being able to set policy. Now the usher to Mr. Lehman's war. One Russell Baker piece was entitled Good King John. It went on and on about a certain "John" - controlling everything, particularly, in this case, both sides of a presidential election. It would make no sense if you did not know who the John was. I showed it to a very educated friend. He laughed. I asked him what he was laughing at. He didn't know. I asked him if he had any hint who "John" was. He didn't. If I typed up the same article and asked him if it would make a good newspaper column he would have said, "Who is John? This makes no sense." The same words in the Times and he makes believe that he understands. Again, is hypnotism to strong? Is there something stronger? Large billboards are often in companies controlled directly by John Lehman, our "ex Secretary of the Navy". The operation that Luce started could not be run by committee. He selected as his successor someone young and someone who was inheriting a gigantic chunk anyway. Kissinger was John's teacher and mentor. For a while John was on Kissinger's staff. There is a recent biography of Kissinger now in the malls. It might be a good exercise for you to look up John in the index. Take a second and won't cost you a penny. Read the referred passages and ask yourself: was John working for Kissinger, or Kissinger for John? Sad to say, all of the above is new even to professors of journalism. What I am telling you is logical, just emotionally hard to swallow. The press does a good job of portraying itself as outside of government, bright crusaders "comforting the afflicted, and afflicting the comfortable". Not so. This flies in the face of our dearly held mass images of Murphy Brown and Clark Kent. Wouldn't Hersey, the man who wrote Hiroshima clue us in? Afraid not. They stay true to their code. This code of emotional bonding at the top is very tight. The Bomb was the unspoken "elephant in the room" in Hersey's writings concerning Luce. We are deceived by images of Bob Woodward in All the President's Men, the fearless investigative reporter. Deep Throat was the real voice, and Woodward was guided all the way. In Woodward's book, Veil, on the secret wars, the most telling interviews with Bill Casey (on his deathbed) are omitted. This clearly shows that Woodward too is bonded at the top, and also, in Casey's words "A true believer". It is odd that conspiracies sound crazy in a world where conspiracies by the powers make common sense. As my Father would say, "Of course they conspire, they would be crazy not to." These then were just a few of the "rules" I learned, the most important: look! My Father went through a slow transformation. I remember years when he identified totally with the "rulers" he was so near. He said "we". "We" were doing this, or "we" were doing that. The news was a sacred meditation. This changed through the Kennedy years. In the beginning JFK was carrying the torch for Alfred Smith, and it touched notes from his Brooklyn background. But something changed. I remember him staring out of the commuter train, looking pained as he rode through Harlem, when he usually would have been absorbed in the news. My guide for my first and only LSD trip was an African on a CIA scholarship to Oneonta State. Timona worried this "scholarship" group by writing texts on colonialism. Once he dropped by my parent's apartment when I was not there. He and my Father spent four hours talking. Whatever this change was, my Father no longer said "we". My most potent memory was a few years earlier. As Jeremiah also drew the maps of history, he often lectured on how the maps tell a different story from the official history. "The maps," he would say, "don't lie." Dinnertime was a series of lectures on current events. Often he would "get the history" and bound up the three steps of the split level to his studio to come back with the historical atlas to make a point. Most always the atlas was an old "Sheapard's". "Our editors are saying such and such: "but look what the Sheapard's is saying!" I remember after one such lecture hiding on a flat rock behind some huckleberry bushes playing with a kit radio. My Father snuck up on me with more than his usual heavy allotment of
[CTRL] Fwd: dog's leash...............
"Down Rover!" Some notes to the continuing WRENCH in next post: I refer to the attempt to start the Balkan war back in 93 as Mr. Lehman's war. It most certainly was. I have no reason to suspect that it was not his hand on the leash when the US Navy stood down over flight 800. However, it has become harder to tell. Perhaps he saw himself becoming a little too much like John Gotti with his publishing of MAKING WAR. John is most certainly born to the castle. He was on the National Security Council at the age of 26. And do check that index in the Kissinger book. At that age, again was John working for Kissinger, or Kissinger working for John. This is why I found the story on China getting sensitive radar information through TRW, which was one of John's companies, of some interest. This may indicate some infighting way at the top. Again, the nuclear stuff is really not sensitive, the radar is. Remember again that WRENCH was written in 93. I of course knew what my parents had done. How was I to know they never told China? Again, we came up with the secret non-use-of-nuke deal. We asked China to go for it. They did, and crossed the Yalu in short order. Sammy pointed out that China did not demonstrate a bomb until many years later. But they could have sooner. They are not difficult to build, as FAT BOY and the TUBE amply demonstrated. So..., we double crossed on our own deal. All 'talk' was to be shared in this area. ALL talk. This would even include 'talk' reported by those who our own George Donaldson considers to be nuts. Who would you blame more here? China, or our NSA? With the bomb, the gun is at everyone's head. This deal is a must. And..., a deal is a deal. Right? "Easy, Rover. Sit. Lie down!" Michael Norfolk "Down Rover!" Some notes to the continuing WRENCH in next post: I refer to the attempt to start the Balkan war back in 93 as Mr. Lehman's war. It most certainly was. I have no reason to suspect that it was not his hand on the leash when the US Navy stood down over flight 800. However, it has become harder to tell. Perhaps he saw himself becoming a little too much like John Gotti with his publishing of MAKING WAR. John is most certainly born to the castle. He was on the National Security Council at the age of 26. And do check that index in the Kissinger book. At that age, again was John working for Kissinger, or Kissinger working for John. This is why I found the story on China getting sensitive radar information through TRW, which was one of John's companies, of some interest. This may indicate some infighting way at the top. Again, the nuclear stuff is really not sensitive, the radar is. Remember again that WRENCH was written in 93. I of course knew what my parents had done. How was I to know they never told China? Again, we came up with the secret non-use-of-nuke deal. We asked China to go for it. They did, and crossed the Yalu in short order. Sammy pointed out that China did not demonstrate a bomb until many years later. But they could have sooner. They are not difficult to build, as FAT BOY and the TUBE amply demonstrated. So..., we double crossed on our own deal. All 'talk' was to be shared in this area. ALL talk. This would even include 'talk' reported by those who our own George Donaldson considers to be nuts. Who would you blame more here? China, or our NSA? With the bomb, the gun is at everyone's head. This deal is a must. And..., a deal is a deal. Right? "Easy, Rover. Sit. Lie down!" Michael Norfolk
Re: [CTRL] OEN 5/15/07
-Caveat Lector- "May the Lord have mercy", shouted Chicken Little. LOL and thinking too! Om K - In a message dated 5/15/99 2:50:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Peace Force regrets the gravity of these last two steps necessitated by the never-ending story called the SoCal Crisis, but the UN has run out of humane options. "Besides," UN Secretary General Theodore Turner told reporters yesterday, "it's all HIS fault, HE started it" -- referring of course to El Mejor of the Sovereign County of Los Angeles, the Hon. Charleton Heston, "the second most evil man in the world after Hitler Himself," in the words of presiding Chief Justice of the World Court, William Gates. UN humanitarian strategists are certain that they have chosen the right course, despite slow progress in their peacemaking mission thus far. (Generalissimo Heston has stubbornly held out for 806 days, already two days longer than Milosevic in 2001.) "But when all of his 10 million subjects are DEAD," UN ambassador Reverend O.J. Simpson predicted, "Satan Incarnate Heston will have NO CHOICE but to surrender to those who truly defend human rights -- because what's the use of being evil anymore when there's no innocent victims LEFT to be evil TO?" - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] U.S.'s plan??
-Caveat Lector- Don't worry. FEMA and our military have plans to help us "adapt" to the new realities. Besides, according to most government bureaucrats, there's no Y2K problem anyway. Those of us who think differently are a bunch of "wackos". At 06:01 PM 5/13/99 -0400, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- I was wondering, when some of our (as in the US) supplies from other nations that aren't Y2K compliant stop coming in, what is the US Government's plan to do then?? Odysseus [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] thomlinson has left timebomb on the internet
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Gonna need lotsa popcorn. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:523152"thomlinson has left timebomb on the internet /A - Subject: thomlinson has left timebomb on the internet From: Lars Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 2:05 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the new development in the Thomlinson case at www.kriminalnyt.dk more than 100 daily up-dates. NEW: Thomlinson has left timebomb on the internet. Turn to the above mentioned adress for further information. = from: http://www.kriminalnyt.dk/ A HREF="http://www.kriminalnyt.dk/"- Kriminalnyt -/A - Fangeflugt fra Vestre Fængsel, læs under Sidste nyt, Danmark News News: Richard Tomlinson, the renegade former MI6 officer, has left another timebomb ticking on the Internet. He has hidden the transcript of a book about his work for the Secret Intelligence Service on one of the millions of sites on the Web. Click here for more information. Go to the list: MI6 Den engelske ex-agent Richard Tomlinson har ifølge den engelske avis the independent efterladt et udskrift, som afslører en stor del af MI6's arbejde i de forskellige lande. Det eneste som mangler, er at han frigiver en kode og så ruller skandalen. Hele sagen har også relevans for Danmark da to MI6 agenter har tilknytning til Damark. Den ene agent arbejder stadig i Danmark og er ifølge vores oplysninger Roger Patrick Hamilton. Du kan finde alle agenter på listen, som vi har offentliggjort på vores side og meget mere. Gå til: MI6 Denne side er optimeret til en skærmopløsning på 1024 x 768 pixels og mindst 16 bit farve = from: http://www.kriminalnyt.dk/html/historie/mi6.html A HREF="http://www.kriminalnyt.dk/html/historie/mi6.html"--- MI6 ---/A - MI6 This intends to be the original list of former MI6 agents published by former MI6 agent Richard Tomlinson . Go to the list Go to the new list(new names) Lørdag d.15/5-1999. Kl. 16.45, Redaktionen This list was the first one published on the net one week ago. A nice guy from the internet, mailed this new list to us, saying quote: "This list is the right one, the British Government has spread a fake list on the net. This is the list Richard Tomlinson published on the net, and which was closed by the Britsh MI6". We don't know for sure if it's the right list, but we do publish both list now!! Got to the brand new list: Push here. Kl. 16.45, Redaktionen Den liste som i første omgang var mailet til os er angiveligt forkert, vi har fået en ny mail med den rigtige liste. Begge lister er dog meget ens og vi tager stadig forbehold for listernes ægthed. Ifølge vores kilde var den første liste en "fake", som det engelske efterretningsvæsen har lagt på internettet. Den nye liste skulle angiveligt være den allerførste, som blev lagt på nettet af Richard Tomlinson og slettet igen af MI6. Vi har lagt de to agenter som har og operer i Danmark øverst på listen, der er ialt 114 agenter på listen. Denne liste er en af de eneste tilbage på hele internettet og bliver måske også slettet af den engelske efterretningstjeneste MI6: Klik her til den nye liste. Kl. 12.30, Redaktionen Former MI6 agent Thomlinson has left a timebomb on the Internet. Press here to read this breaking news: http://www.independent.co.uk/stories/A1505905.html Dramatisk udvikling i sagen om den tidligere MI6 agent Thomlinson. Han har gemt en tidsindstillet "bombe" på nettet. Richard Tomlinson har angiveligt lagt en side på nettet som kun mangler hans kodeord. Når han føler for det, frigiver han denne side, som indeholder oplysninger om MI6 arbejde rundt omkring i verden. Det er oplysninger som er meget sårbare for det engelske efterretningssytem og for den sags skyld også Danmark. Der har arbejdet flere engelske agenter i Danmark og en agent arbejder stadig i Danmark. Det drejer sig om den 51årige Roger Patrick Hamilton som siden 1989 har arbejdet i Danmark. Han har før været i Jakarta, Tokyo og Hong Kong. Vi vil selvfølgelig prøve at finde denne side og som de første brinde den på nettet Independent skriver: http://www.independent.co.uk/stories/A1505905.html Fredag d.14/5-1999. Kl: 21.20, Redaktionen. Den tidligere agent Richard Tomlinson har fortalt BBC, at han modtager e-mails med dødstrusler. Det kommer efter, at han har offentliggjort en listen med MI6 agenter i hele verden på internettet. Han benægter dog enhver kendskab til listen. BBC skriver: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_344000/344194.stm Kl: 21.00, Redaktionen. Vi har fundet en liste med navne, som engelske myndigheder har været inde og klippe fra den originale liste. Vi ber stadig alle at tage forbehold for informationerne. Hvad grunden er til at disse navne er klippet fra den originale liste ved vi ikke, men den indenholder ikke agenter i Danmark. Gå til den nye liste. Kl: 04.00,
[CTRL] Ex-spy publishes coded book on Net
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.independent.co.uk/stories/A1505905.html A HREF="http://www.independent.co.uk/stories/A1505905.html"NEWS/A - Ex-spy publishes coded book on Net By Charles Arthur and Paul Lashmar Richard Tomlinson, the renegade former MI6 officer, has left another timebomb ticking on the Internet. He has hidden the transcript of a book about his work for the Secret Intelligence Service on one of the millions of sites on the Web. The book has been encrypted, but Mr Tomlinson could release the cipher "keys" for worldwide reading in moments, by sending an e-mail from a phone booth anywhere. Mr Tomlinson had been planning the release of 117 names of former and serving MI6 officers on to the Internet for weeks, although on Wednesday he denied posting the list. But ministers have little doubt he was behind one of Britain's biggest security breaches for decades. Last month Mr Tomlinson sent an e-mail to The Independent, reading: "I have decided that since I cannot take MI6 to court for blocking my entry to France (and Australia and USA) I have no option but to adopt a hardline response." A week ago he left the Geneva hotel where he has been staying since last summer. The book contains details of plans by MI6 to assassinate President Slobodan Milosevic in the early 1990s, and a British-run "mole" in a senior position in the German Bundesbank who leaked crucial information to Britain in economic negotiations. Mr Tomlinson also claims that MI6 has a unit specifically for stealing military and economic secrets from European allies. These allegations have already been leaked, but Mr Tomlinson claims the book also contains new material that is potentially more embarrassing for the Government. This new threat to expose the innermost secrets of Britain's spymasters follows desperate Whitehall attempts over the past week to prevent the list appearing on the Internet. Mr Tomlinson, a 37-year-old Cambridge graduate who worked for MI6 between 1991 and 1995, was sacked then imprisoned in 1997 for breaking the Official Secrets Act. The full list, including names of the head of MI6, a Cambridge don and an ex-minister's son, appeared yesterday in Internet discussion groups. A spokesman for the Foreign Office admitted that the list's rapid spread around the Internet was now "a fact of life" and any efforts now would be "a damage limitation exercise". The spokesman called Mr Tomlinson "irresponsible and unbalanced", adding: "We do not negotiate with people who hold us to ransom." But the Government claims that the list's publication "puts lives at risk" was challenged yesterday by the editor of Lobster magazine, an intelligence-watching journal. Stephen Dorril said: "About 30 of the names were published in our magazine in 1989. It's absolute rubbish to say lives are at risk. When it comes to officers operating under 'light cover', where the names are published in the public Diplomatic Lists, no serving MI6 officer has been killed in the field since the 1940s." Home | UK News | International | Business | Sport | Columnists | Comment | Letters | - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] E-mail death threats for ex-spy
-Caveat Lector- from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_344000/344194.stm A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_344000/344194.stm"BBC News | UK | E-mail death threats for ex-spy /A - Saturday, May 15, 1999 Published at 01:48 GMT 02:48 UK UK E-mail death threats for ex-spy The list is widely available on Internet sites Former MI6 spy Richard Tomlinson has told the BBC that he has received death threats by e-mail for allegedly publishing the names of MI6 agents on a US-based Website. Richard Tomlinson: "I can do nothing but deny it"Mr Tomlinson has also strongly denied Foreign Office claims that he was responsible for posting the 116 names. "A denial might sound a bit thin, because I did threaten to put names on the Internet," he said in an interview with the BBC Six O'Clock News. BBC Legal Affairs Correspondent Joshua Rozenberg: "The Foreign Office says that no-one else is in the frame""But I did not do it. If my former employers can find proof - well let them try. "I know the finger points at me strongly, but I did not put the names on the site. I don't even know the address of the site they appeared on." 'No-one else in the frame' Mr Tomlinson said he was quite happy for the authorities to see his computer, and he would offer them written permission to examine his Internet Service Provider's records. "They can test it in a court if they want to use it as evidence," he said. However, the Foreign Office insisted that the "balance of probabilities" pointed to Mr Tomlinson being responsible. A spokesman said: "There is no-one else in the frame. Even if he did not physically put the names on the Internet, there's no real difference if he provided the names for someone else to do it." The former spy has gone into hiding, and has received threatening e-mail. On Friday, the Sun newspaper published his e-mail address, calling him a traitor and urging readers to contact him. Tomlinson: Living in Geneva"I don't think I'm in danger from MI6, but I did wonder about some of the death threats I received by e-mail today," he said. His family are concerned for his safety. His brother, Matthew, said on Friday that he could not contact him, but was convinced of his innocence and worried about what might happen. Mr Tomlinson has been accused of posting the names on the Net because he held a grudge against MI6, after being dismissed by them and denied an industrial tribunal. The BBC's Paul Reynolds: "The cat is well out of the bag"After the list of agents became known to security forces on Wednesday, frantic efforts were made to remove it. The site appeared to have closed down on Wednesday night. But several "mirror" sites have now appeared on the Web. A search by BBC News Online found one such site in less than five minutes. A Foreign Office spokesman said: "The information can be accessed. To an extent, the cat is out of the bag." Officials are considering punitive action against the perpetrator of what has been called one of the biggest security breaches in recent years. Police confirmed they were investigating the release of the names - said to include a Cambridge University academic and the son of a former Cabinet minister. Embarrassment for MI6 Mr Tomlinson was sacked by MI6 in 1995 and jailed in December 1997 for breaking the country's Official Secrets Act. He was released on probation after six months of his one-year sentence and has been pursued around the world since by UK Government injunctions. Born in New Zealand, he served MI6 in Bosnia, Russia and the Middle East. Advanced options | Search tips Back to top | BBC News Home | BBC Homepage © Relevant Stories 15 May 99 | Sci/Tech How secrets slip through the Net 14 May 99 | Americas UK nuclear deterrent 'secure' 14 May 99 | UK Who's being spied on? 14 May 99 | UK Family fear for ex-spy's safety 13 May 99 | UK War of words over spy claims 13 May 99 | UK The spy who was snubbed 13 May 99 | e-cyclopedia E-cyclopedia: 'D' Notices 13 May 99 | UK Easy to publish, 'almost impossible' to remove Internet Links MI5 Liberty Secret Kingdom [Unofficial UK Intelligence site] The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] MI6Õs plot to assassinate President Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia in 1992
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.kriminalnyt.dk/html/historie/milosevic.html A HREF="http://www.kriminalnyt.dk/html/historie/milosevic.html"--- Milosevic --- /A - Milosevic Geneva 1201, Switzerland John Wadham Liberty 21 Tabard Street London SE1 11 September 1998 Dear John, As requested, I enclose a statement detailing MI6s plot to assassinate President Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia in 1992. When you have read it, lets discuss the best way to proceed. Yours sincerely, Richard Tomlinson Dear Sir, I would like to bring to your attention a proposal by MI6 to assassinate President Milosevic of Serbia. My motive in doing this is to draw to your attention the casual and cavalier attitude that many MI6 officers have to British and international law. The officer who wrote this proposal clearly could (and in my view, should) be charged with conspiracy to murder. He will no doubt escape unpunished, like many other MI6 officers who routinely break the law. This lack of legal accountability of MI6 officers needs to be addressed urgently. From March 1992 until September 1993 I worked in the East European controllerate of MI6 under the staff designation of UKA/7. My role was to carry out natural cover operations (undercover as a businessman or journalist etc) in eastern Europe. The Balkan war was in its early stages at this time, and so my responsibilities were increasingly directed to this arena. My work thus involved frequent contact with the officer responsible for developing and targeting operations in the Balkans. At the time, this was Nicholas Fishwick, who worked under the staff designation of P4/OPS. We would frequently meet in his office on the 11th floor of Century House to discuss proposed and ongoing operations that I was involved in and, indeed, many other operations which I was not myself involved in. During one such meeting in the summer of 1992 Nick Fishwick casually mentioned that he was working on a proposal to assassinate President Milosevic of Serbia. I laughed, and dismissed his claim as an idle boast as I (naively) thought that MI6 would never contemplate such an operation. Fishwick insisted that it was true, and appeared somewhat offended that I did not believe him. However, I still presumed that he was just pulling my leg, and thought nothing more of the incident A few days later, I called in again to Fishwicks office. After a few moments of conversation, he triumphantly pulled out a document from a file on his desk, tossed it over to me, and suggested I read it. To my astonishment, it was indeed a proposal to assassinate President Milosevic of Serbia. The minute was approximately 2 pages long, and had a yellow minute card attached to it which signified that it was an accountable document rather than a draft proposal. It was entitled "The need to assassinate President Milosevic of Serbia". In the distribution list in the margin were P4 (Head of Balkan operations, then Maurice Kendwrick-Piercey), SBO1/T (Security officer responsible for eastern European operations, then John Ridd), C/CEE (Controller of east European operations, then Richard Fletcher or possibly Andrew Fulton), MODA/SO (The SAS liaison officer attached to MI6, then Major Glynne Evans), and H/SECT (the private secretary to Sir Colin McColl, then Alan Petty). The first page of the document was a political "justification" to assassinate President Milosevic. Fishwicks justification was basically that there was evidence that Milosevic was providing arms and support to President Radovan Karadzic in the breakaway republic of Bosnian Serbia. The remainder of the document proposed three methods to assassinate Milosevic. The first method was to train and equip a Serbian paramilitary opposition group to assassinate Milosevic in Serbia. Fishwick argued that this method would have the advantage of d eniability, but the disadvantage that control of the operation would be low and the chances of success unpredictable. The second method was to use the Increment (a small cell of the SAS and SBS which is especially selected and trained to carry out operations exclusively for MI5/MI6) to infiltrate Serbia and attack Milosevic either with a bomb or sniper ambush. Fishwick argued that this would plan would be the most reliable, but would be undeniable if it went wrong. Fishwicks third proposal was to kill Milosevic in a staged car crash, possibly during one of his visits to the ICFY (International Conference on the Former Yugoslavia) in Geneva, Switzerland. Fishwick even provided a suggestion about how this could be done, such as by disorientating Milosevics chauffeur using a blinding strobe light as the cavalcade passed through one of Genevas motorway tunnels. There was no doubt in my mind when I read Fishwicks proposal that he was entirely serious about pursuing his plan. Fishwick was an ambitious and serious officer, who would not frivolise his career by making such a proposal in jest or merely to
[CTRL] War of words over spy claims
-Caveat Lector- from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_343000/343039.stm A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_343000/343039.stm"BBC News | UK | War of words over spy claims /A - Thursday, May 13, 1999 Published at 17:08 GMT 18:08 UK UK War of words over spy claims An injunction forbidding identification of Mr Tomlinson has been lifted A former spy accused of endangering the lives of British intelligence agents and diplomats is engaged in an uneasy stand-off with the UK Government. Joshua Rozenberg: "MI6 spotted the list of names on the Internet before anyone in the media "Richard Tomlinson allegedly posted the names of 116 MI6 agents on a US-based site after an earlier Swiss-based site was pulled by the service provider. The site has been removed after the UK Government's Treasury Solicitor wrote to the service provider, drawing its attention to the injunction brought against Tomlinson's Swiss Web pages. Tomlinson: "My Website doesn't contain any names"But excerpts from the site - including the names of around 10 MI6 officers - have been copied to several "mirror" sites in the US. 'Names MI6 recruiter' And the full list of 116 alleged MI6 officers is on another site which the BBC has discovered on the Web. It also names a Cambridge University professor it claims is a "leading recruiter of MI6 agents". Former KGB agent Oleg Gordievsky: "Many agents' cover will have been blown"The authors of the page say the source of the list is "an honest man who has since left MI6 because he felt that the behaviour of that organisation was unacceptable in a civilised society". The managing editor of a US magazine has told the BBC it published an online article on Monday which named 120 alleged MI6 officers. Yaman Akdeniz, director of Cyber Rights and Cyber Liberties: "The genie is already out of the bottle"He said the story was removed from its Website on Wednesday and the magazine's lawyers were now considering the situation. The print version went to press on Wednesday and the management are discussing whether to let it reach US news-stands. Tomlinson has accused the UK Government of "exaggerating" the damage done by his actions and says the names he published were already in the public domain. 'Endangering agents' lives' But Foreign Secretary Robin Cook has accused Tomlinson of endangering the lives of people working for the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), formerly known as MI6. Mr Cook condemned his action and said "not all the names" on the list had a connection with the SIS. Robin Cook says Tomlinson is nursing a grudgeHe said: "Nevertheless, the release of any such list, however inaccurate it may be, is a deeply irresponsible and dangerous act." Mr Cook said Tomlinson nursed a "deep seated and irrational grievance" against his former employers. A Foreign Office spokesman said: "To say we are exaggerating the damage he is doing is rubbish. Not only is he putting the lives of SIS agents at risk but he is risking the lives of wholly innocent people." Max Hastings of the Evening Standard: "Government is right to protect its information"A government advisory body for the UK media has urged editors to seek advice before publishing details of the names, and said officials were examining how the damage from the disclosure could be minimised. Ex-MI6 agent chased John Wadham: "Richard Tomlinson believes that the British Authorities are harassing him"But Tomlinson issued a statement on Thursday accusing the UK Government of "exaggerating" the damage he had caused. He said the information on his Website was already in the public domain and added: "Her Majesty's government is over-reacting for public effect to stigmatise my efforts. "The names of MI6 officers are the ones I cited in my affidavit on MI6 and Princess Diana." When Tomlinson testified at the inquiry in Paris into the Princess of Wales's death he claimed her chauffeur, Henri Paul, was an MI6 employee. The Foreign Office spokesman said Tomlinson was being disingenuous in claiming the names were already in the public domain. He said: "While the names may be in the public domain, the fact that they are SIS agents is not." 'Jumping to conclusions' The former agent, who now lives in Geneva, contacted BBC News by e-mail on Thursday and said: "People are jumping to the wrong conclusion. My Website doesn't contain any names". The BBC's Jon Silverman: "This is being taken very seriously indeed" Tomlinson was sacked by MI6 in 1995 and jailed in December 1997 for breaking the country's Official Secrets Act. Tomlinson was released on probation after six months of his one-year sentence and has been pursued around the world since by UK Government injunctions. Tomlinson was born in New Zealand and served MI6 in Bosnia, Russia and the Middle East. The row is a major embarrassment for MI6, who appointed a new chief, Richard Dearlove, back in February. Advanced options | Search tips Back to top | BBC News Home | BBC
[CTRL] All the SISA/Tomlinson info - here - but what is true?
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:523196"All the SISA/Tomlinson info - here - but what is true? /A - Subject: All the SISA/Tomlinson info - here - but what is true? From: "John Bartram" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 7:08 AM Message-id: 69g%2.4641$%x.4060@wards http://elint.server101.com Elint has two SIS lists claimed to be by Tomlinson; the second posted by those who say the first list is a plant. Elint also has the geocities site, and the banned article in Sunday Business. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Namebase on the MI6 Hooplah
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:523137"Namebase on the MI6 Hooplah/A - Subject: Namebase on the MI6 Hooplah From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, May 14, 1999 5:32 PM Message-id: 89b83ca0[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namebase on the MI6 Hooplah Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit from Namebase: http://www.pir.org British Officials Attack the Internet On May 12, British officials issued a "D-notice" gagging order to prevent the press from reporting the contents of a list that they said former MI6 officer Richard Tomlinson had posted on the Internet. Tomlinson's Swiss Internet service provider, worldcom.ch, cooperated with the British, as did geocities.com in the U.S., and both sites were closed. Every major newspaper in the world hyped the story. Now Internet surfers were getting interested, and thousands of people were looking for The List. Enough people already had it so that it was impossible to stuff the cyber genie back into the bottle. Lyndon LaRouche's site posted it for a time, and a site in Denmark is still up as this is written. The hype was amazing. British foreign secretary Robin Cook called the list "potentially dangerous to the people who have worked in the service." Conservative spook-booster and writer Nigel West (aka Rupert Allason) said that "this is hugely damaging to us, on a scale of Philip Agee." One Foreign Office spokesman worried about Osama bin Laden getting the list, and others said that Britain now faces the difficult task of recruiting and training new agents and restoring confidence in MI6. "We're aware of the reports that the list is on other web sites, and we're considering what action we need to take, if we can take any action at all," another Foreign Office spokesman said. Scotland Yard was on the case. Unnamed "government officials" were worried that the list had been posted for some 24 hours before it was taken down, enabling enemies of the British secret service to harvest the information for possible retaliation against agents named on the list. Rear Adm. David Pulvertaft, chief of the committee that browbeats British media on national security issues, said "I don't want to overdramatize, but peoples' lives were put at risk. The Internet poses a unique difficulty. It offers an opportunity to the blackmailer or the person with grievances. Government has to get a grip on it, but I don't have a panacea. I wish I did." Spies' Lives Are Not in Danger In the U.S., at least, newspapers lapped up these quotations, and never asked whether something else might be going on. Let's take a closer look at this dangerous list of 116 names: DOB=Date of birth * Dudley Charles Ankerson 1978 Buenos Aires, 1985 Mexico, 1993 Madrid. DOB 1948; Dr. * Raymond Benedict Barthol Asquith 1983 Moscow, 1992 Kiev. DOB 1952; Viscount. * Kerry Charles Bagshaw 1982 Geneva, 1988 Moscow. DOB 1943; OBE. * Ian Clive Barnard 1994 Geneva. DOB 1965. * Richard Martin Donne Barrett 1983 Ankara, 1988 New York, 1997 Amman. DOB 1949. * James Lloyd Baxendale 1994 Cairo (MECAS), 1997 Amman. DOB 1967. * Jonathan Beales * Peter John William Black 1974 MECAS, 1977 Kuwait, 1980 Amman, 1987 Dhaka. DOB 1946. * Jamie Blount * Rupert Bowen 1990 Windhoek, 1992 Tirana. * Andrew Jonathan Corrie Boyd 1981 Accra, 1988 Mexico City, 1996 Islamabad. DOB 1950. * Andrew James Brear 1994 Santiago. DOB 1960. * Christopher Mark Breeze 1988 Nicosia, 1994 New Delhi. DOB 1963. * Alastair Breeze * Richard Philip Bridge 1986 Warsaw, 1988 Moscow. DOB 1959. * Stuart Armitage Brooks 1972 Rio, 1975 Lisbon, 1979 Moscow, 1987 Stockholm, 1993 Moscow. DOB 1948; OBE. * Christopher Parker Burrows 1982 East Berlin, 1987 Bonn, 1993 Athens. DOB 1958. * George Benedict Joseph P Busby 1989 Bonn, 1992 Belgrade. DOB 1960; OBE. * Geoff Chittenden * Robert John Paul Church 1976 Bankok, 1981 Berlin, 1986 Nairobi, 1989 Bangkok, 1997 Nairobi. DOB 1947. * Timothy Clayden 1991 Warsaw, 1995 Lagos. DOB 1960; Wanker. * Martin Hugh Clements 1986 Tehran, 1990 Vienna. DOB 1961. * John Donovan Nelson Clibborn 1966 Nicosia, 1972 Bonn, 1972 Brussels, 1988 Washington. DOB 1941; CMG. * Peter Salmon Collecot 1980 Khartoum, 1982 Canberra, 1993 Jakarta. DOB 1950. * Andrew David Cordery 1975 Nairobi, 1977 New York, 1984 Lusaka, 1988 Berlin, 1995 Oslo. DOB 1947. * Sherard Louis Cowper-Coles 1980 Cairo, 1987 Washington. DOB 1955; CMG, LVO. * Keith Craig DOB 1961. * John Martin Jamie Darke 1988 Cairo, 1996 Dubai. DOB 1953. * Michael Hayward Davenport 1989 Warsaw, 1996 Moscow. DOB
[CTRL] Mona's Balkan File
-Caveat Lector- from: http://members.tripod.com/RadioBergen/kosovo/kosovo.html A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/RadioBergen/kosovo/kosovo.html"Mona's Balkan File /A - Many articles. Om K - Mona's Balkan File Drugs For Money Civil Wars - Serbs - Kroats - Muslims Serbs And Jews Ustashi Butchery KOSOVO CRISIS CENTER Top Public Enemies Of The Serbian People Himmler's Bosnian Division What You Are Not Told Terrorism In Kosovo Afghans In Fight For Nazi Heritage Kissinger In 1996 Truth And Lies In Kosovo The Hand Of Iran News Archive The Largest Children Burial Ground Nato Bombs Over Serbia Woodrow Wilson's Obsession Hostile Media Against Serbia Kosovo Last Stop Before Jerusalem Bosnia-Serbia-Kosovo Links Aaron Lerner On Arutz7 The Complete Kosovo Story (So Far) Geneva Conventions 1 Statement Group 17 Serbia Info News Accuracy In Media, please! Part 1 Accuracy In Media, please! Part 2 The Secret CIA Report The World Opinion KLA And The Croats NATO Losses What Is The Truth? The Real Criminals The Bilderbergers The 1999 Bilderberger Meeting Italy The Base For Iranian Terror In The Balkans Debacle In Kosovo: A Military View Serbian Army Statement Le Monde Diplomatique Jewish Relief Fund: Jevrejska Op (Tina Novisad Mr. Sessler Tibor, B'Nai B'Rith Revay U.16 1065 Budapest, Hungary. Make funds payable to Jewish Community, Novisad, Serbia The Latest News Mona's Middle East File From The History Of Israel The Middle East Powergame The Wye River Comedy The Quest For Jerusalem The Palestine Agenda The Golan Issue The Curse of The Vatican Terrorism Rewarded The Divided House Of Israel The Curse Of Islam Conspiracies To Murder The Middle East Political Forum (MEPF) Contemporary US Politics The Kosovo Files Conference For Middle East Peace (CMEP) Klikk for å motta e-mail hver gang siden oppdateres" Powered by NetMind " Search NewHoo Arts snip Click to receive email when this page changes" Powered by NetMind " = Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BALKAN CONNECTION - WSJ
-Caveat Lector- from: vhttp://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/albanian-solution.html A HREF="http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/albanian-solution.html"Albani an solution: drugs for money for weapons /A - Many articles. Om K - [ Home ] [ Forums ] [ Serbian Yellow Pages ] [ Library ] [ Links ] [ Guestbook ] [ Mission ] [ Email ] ALBANIAN SOLUTION: DRUGS FOR MONEY FOR WEAPONS Terrorism and violent succession worked for Slovenian, Croatian and Bosnian Muslim secessionists. It got support from the Western Might. Violent and illegal means is what Kosovo Albanians have practiced for even longer time then the above groups. Expulsion of Serbs from Kosovo New York Times in an article published in July 1982 tells a story of Serbian population being expelled from Kosovo. Albanian officials admit - Kosovo Albanian nationalists are trying to cleanse the Serbs and make Greater Albania. Some 57,000 Serbs left the region in 1970's. Albanian Mafia smuggles drugs into USA Wall Street Journal, September 1985 says that Albanian-American criminals are involved in everything from gun-running to counterfeiting. They smuggle 25% to 40% of US heroin supply. They are particularly brutal and wild. Albanian chauvinism - 'Lebanonizing' of Yugoslavia No, it did not start in 1997 as current articles in the West would like us believe. An article in New York Times on November 1st, 1987 explains it all. Albanian Mafia in Europe: Drugs for weapons The International Herald Tribune, on June 6, 1994. tells us how Albanians of Kosovo - after selling heroin throughout Europe - buy weapons for Kosovo Albanian terrorists. Albanian Mafiosi relentless and numerous Agence France Presse, June 16, 1998 only tells about the last massive arrest of Albanian mafia members. Some 70 of them! Glorifying Nazi past! Albanian and Afghan Jihad fighters are reviving WWII Nazi SS division! Photo Galery Albanian terrorists at work. Murdering their own Albanian KLA terrorists murder Albanians who, as loyal Yugoslav citizens, are refusing to join them. Photographs Western media did not want you to see. NEVER NEGOTIATE! Lord Owen, certainly not a Serbian friend, says that Kosovo Albanians, even "moderate" Rugova wanted NO negotiation. For Albanian secessionists secession is NOT NEGOTIABLE! With Western support they can afford to behave in that fashion despite military weakness of their terrorist "army". Endless terror Encouraged by the West Albanian terrorists at work. KLA - Bill Clinton's "Freedom Fighters" KLA drugs More than 30 articles, all coming from Western sources, talk about KLA's heroin trade. More than 70% of West Europe's heroin comes through KLA connection. Also, take a look at Professor Dr. Michel Chossudovsky's analysis of sources of KLA financing. The analysis is entitled: KOSOVO "FREEDOM FIGHTERS" FINANCED BY ORGANISED CRIME Ideology Leaders of KLA Mixing Islam, neo-Nazism, Maoism, Marxism, Ritual Vendetta, and their Mafia's drug money into a guerrilla movement - "liberation" army. Who are the leaders of KLA? KLA's connection to Osama bin Laden Strong connection of KLA to Osama bin Laden's terrorists. KLA, terror and Ethnic Cleansing A study of KLA as cleansers of Serbs from Kosovo. Stagging Racak "massacre" What happened in Racak (Kosovo)? Was it "a massacre of innocent Albanian civilians"? Follow this link to see the results of forensic expertise. The above Data Base comes from The Strategic Issues Research Center. To see more information on this topic, please follow this link and read articles that start with "KLA". Back to: [ Kosovo Problem ] [ Kosovo Home Page ] The truth belongs to us all. Feel free to download, copy and redistribute. Last revised: June 26, 1998 = from: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/alb-mafia-wsj-9-9-85.html A HREF="http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/alb-mafia-wsj-9-9-85.html"Alb anian Mafia at work in New York /A - [ Home ] [ Forums ] [ Serbian Yellow Pages ] [ Library ] [ Links ] [ Guestbook ] [ Mission ] [ Email ] BALKAN CONNECTION Brazen as the Mafia, Ethnic Albanian Thugs Specialize in Mayhem Active in the Heroin Trade, The Faction Is So Violent Prosecutors Need Guards Dujo Saljanin's Comeuppance The Wall Street Journal, Monday, September 9, 1985, pp.1,18 By Anthony M. DeStefano NEW YORK - The informant who visited the office of U.S. Attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani [current Mayor of New York City] last December had a
[CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- Copyright 1995 by New Prospect, Inc. Readers may redistribute this article to other individuals for noncommercial use, provided that the text and this notice remain intact. This article may not be resold, reprinted, or redistributed for compensation of any kind without prior written permission from the author. If you have any questions about permissions, please contact The American Prospect, P.O. Box 383080, Cambridge, MA 02238, or by phone at (617) 547- 2950. Preferred Citation: Edward N. Wolff, "How the Pie is Sliced" The American Prospect no. 22 (Summer 1995): 58-64 (http://epn.org/prospect/22/22wolf.html). HOW THE PIE IS SLICED America's Growing Concentration of Wealth Edward N. Wolff Conservative economic policy has one central idea: just create a bigger pie, and everyone will have a bigger slice. In fact, conservatives predict that if we cut the rich a bigger piece by lowering their tax rates, the resulting growth will enlarge everyone else's slice, too. This was the core idea of Reagan's tax cuts, and it is central to such current conservative goals as lower capital gains taxes. Unfortunately, since the 1980s the great majority of Americans have not been getting bigger slices from a growing pie. As many people have noted, median family income has failed to grow. The picture is even more stark for gains in wealth than for gains in income. New research, based on data from federal surveys, shows that between 1983 and 1989 the top 20 percent of wealth holders received 99 percent of the total gain in marketable wealth, while the bottom 80 percent of the population got only 1 percent. America produced a lot of new wealth in the '80s--indeed, the stock market boomed--but almost none of it filtered down. Few people realize how extraordinarily concentrated the gains in wealth have been. Between 1983 and 1989 the top 1 percent of income recipients received about a third of the total increase in real income. But the richest 1 percent received an even bigger slice--62 percent--of the new wealth that was created (see figure at right). The most recent data suggest these trends have continued. My preliminary estimates indicate that between 1989 and 1992, 68 percent of the increase in total household wealth went to the richest 1 percent--an even larger share of wealth gain than between 1983 and 1989. As a result, the concentration of wealth reached a postwar high in 1992, the latest year for which data are available. If these trends continue, the super rich will pull ahead of other Americans at an even faster pace in the 1990s than they did in the '80s. Growing inequality in the distribution of wealth has serious implications for the kind of society we live in. Today, the average American family's wealth adds up to a comparatively meager $52,200, typically tied up in a home and some small investments. While Forbes magazine each year keeps listing record numbers of billionaires--in 1994 Forbes counted 65 of them in the U.S.--homeownership has been slipping since the mid-1970s. The percentage of Americans with private pensions has also been dropping. And, with their real incomes squeezed, middle-income families have not been putting savings aside for retirement. The number of young Americans going to college has also begun to decline, another indirect sign of the same underlying phenomenon. In fact, international data now indicate that wealth is more unequally distributed in the U.S. than in other developed countries, including that old symbol of class privilege, Great Britain. Economic worries may be at the root of much of the political anger in America today, but there is almost no public debate about the growth in wealth inequality, much less the steps needed to reverse current trends. The debate needs to start with an understanding of how and why America's pie is getting sliced so unequally. REVERSAL OF FORTUNES The increasing concentration of wealth in the past 15 years represents a reversal of the trend that had prevailed from the mid-1960s through the late 1970s. The share of total wealth owned by the rich depends, to a large extent, on asset values
Re: [CTRL] [teaparty] 14th again
-Caveat Lector- An opinion only arises from resarch and obesravtion: Any written paper work you present to the Legislative Tribunal will be construed in the most favorable light of the court. This will be construed as a motion, and a traverse. This will raise the General Appearance. This Legislative Tribunal is the creation not of the People, but of the General Assembly of Nevada to adjudicate issues of commerce. If you in any way present a statement written or oral within this tribunal, you will have traversed. The best form of discovery is to exhaust the administrative remedy with statutory discovery using a public records act request to the Administrative agency that alleges jurisdiction over the private acts of Joshua. This premise of the non appearance is simple. It is not a tool to challenge or defeat the Statutorily created rules for movement. It is a tool that presents the legislative tribunal the simple point that we do not UNDERSTAND. Any words beyond that, and one will loose. No UNDERSTANDING, no jurisdiction. To defeat the legislative tribunal, you will need to initiate a statutory discovery. The properly constructed public records act request will request the documents made for the transaction of public business. which the Agency will choose to ignore. That will allow you to enter the County where in the State of Nevada does business and petition the appropriate Legislative Tribunal under a writ, or motion of Mandamus praying upon the Statue for relief. As the alleged defendant one should stand on the simple point of not UNDERSTANDING, and ask nothing but questions. To put anything in writing or within an oral statement will be construed as an offering to the alter of justice, and the black robed administer will accept that offering and impose the libel which attached to the rem. This libel will be charged to the Resident Agent, which will be the alleged defendant. . The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance "In a age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell -- From: Christopher Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [teaparty] 14th again Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 4:49 AM From: Christopher Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry about all the emails but my mind is racing a bit. I am working on Joshua's case and preparing to go to court. I am going to first use a variation of the notice of non appearance but knowing Nevada courts I have to be prepared to lose. I believe it is a great argument but I have been screwed four times by State courts so my lack of trust is justified. If Josh claims a due process violation not because he is a US citizen but because the state is bound by the 14th combined with a clearly worded statement that he is a US national and a white non 14th Nevada Citizen then the court would have to either rule that his claim was void because he was not a US citizen which would be worth its weight in gold or say that the he could not use the 14th because he is not a 14th citizen which accomplishes the same thing or rule it is applicable even to non 14th citizens which is useful or try to prove he isn't a 14th citizen. I would like any of those to occur. What is the downside to this? I will already have made an objection to the jurisdiction of the court so I will not be admitting their jurisdiction and will have on the record that Joshua is proceeding only under threat of jail. Christopher Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.onelist.com Come join one of the 145,000 email communities at ONElist! NOTICE: Keep to the issues. Focus on solutions. The moderators of this list have little time or patience for jokes, tirades, flaming, rambling philosophy, religious arguments, off-topic discussions or back-slapping. You may, without warning, be limited to READ ONLY, not being able to post to the list. Stick to the point! CC DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
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-Caveat Lector- test excusa om k DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- Wealth is CREATED, not distributed. Regard$, --MJ It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry. -- Thomas Paine DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [12] Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh,(C) 1994 PENGUIN BOOKS Published by the Penguin Group Penguin Books Ltd. 27 Wrights Lane London W8 3TZ, England Penguin Books USA Inc., 375 Hudson Street, New York, Now York 10014, USA Penguin Books Australia Lid, Ringwood, Victoria, Australia Penguin Books Cana Ltd, 10 Alcorn Avenue, Toronto, Ontario. Canada M4V 3B2 Penguin Books (NZ) Ltd, 192-190 Wairau Road, Auckland 10, New Zealand Penguin Books Ltd, Registered Offices: Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England First published by Jonathan Cape 1994 Published in Penguin Books 1995 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 AD rights reserved The moral right of the author has been asserted Printed in England by Clays Ltd, St Ives plc Except in the United States of America, this book is sold subject to the condition that it shall not, by way of trade or otherwise, be Lent re-sold, hired out, or otherwise circulated without the publisher's prior consent in any form of binding or cover other than that in which it is published and without a similar condition including this condition being imposed on the subsequent purchaser - Introduction By the spring Of 1943, the Second World War was careening towards its fourth year of conflict. It would still have another two years to run, and some of the bloodiest and most bitter fighting had yet to occur. Nevertheless, the tide, in Churchill's phrase, had at last begun to turn. In three of the most important theatres of operations, the Allies - the British Empire, the Soviet Union and the United States - had forced the Axis on to the defensive, and were just beginning to take the offensive themselves. During the previous year, three decisive engagements had transformed the course of the war, dramatically reversing the flow of its momentum. The first of these was the Battle of Midway, in June 1942, when Japan's seemingly inexorable sweep across the Pacific had been abruptly halted, and the loss of four aircraft carriers left Japanese air and sea Power irreparably impaired. On the Russian front, where Hitler's advancing forces were locked in a titanic struggle with those of the Soviet Union, the German 6th Army's assault on Stalingrad had ground to a halt. By the last week of November, the army was entirely encircled by the Russian counter-offensive. On 31 January 1943, the 6th Army surrendered with its surviving 91,000 men, having already suffered nearly 200,000 casualties. Germany had previously undergone reverses, of course - in the Battle of Britain, for example, and at sea - but Stalingrad was the German war machine's first major setback on land. It was a decisive defeat and led to the series of Russian Introduction By the spring Of 1943, the Second World War was careening towards its fourth year of conflict. It would still have another two years to run, and some of the bloodiest and most bitter fighting had yet to occur. Nevertheless, the tide, in Churchill's phrase, had at last begun to turn. In three of the most important theatres of operations, the Allies - the British Empire, the Soviet Union and the United States - had forced the Axis on to the defensive, and were just beginning to take the offensive themselves. During the previous year, three decisive engagements had transformed the course of the war, dramatically reversing the flow of its momentum. The first of these was the Battle of Midway, in June 1942, when Japan's seemingly inexorable sweep across the Pacific had been abruptly halted, and the loss of four aircraft carriers left Japanese air and sea Power irreparably impaired. On the Russian front, where Hitler's advancing forces were locked in a titanic struggle with those of the Soviet Union, the German 6th Army's assault on Stalingrad had ground to a halt. By the last week of November, the army was entirely encircled by the Russian counter-offensive. On 31 January 1943, the 6th Army surrendered with its surviving 91,000 men, having already suffered nearly 200,000 casualties. Germany had previously undergone reverses, of course - in the Battle of Britain, for example, and at sea - but Stalingrad was the German war machine's first major setback on land. It was a decisive defeat and led to the series of Russian to halt Montgomery's advancing 8th Army at Medenine. When Montgomery counter-attacked on 2o March, 10th Panzer offered particularly fierce resistance, and it was not until six days later that the Germans were forced to abandon their positions at Mareth. In both of these engagements, 10th Panzer's new Staff Officer (Operations) made a dramatic impression on subordinates, colleagues and superiors alike. In spite of all his office work, the Staff Officer (Operations) invariably found time to keep in touch with the troops. He would frequently visit regiments and battalions to discuss personal or official problems with commanding officers. By informal discussion on the spot, he
[CTRL] Domestic policy, 2000 and Clinton's Serbian folly
-Caveat Lector- The New Australian Domestic policy, 2000 and Clinton's Serbian folly By James Henry No. 117, 26 April - 2 May 1999 As the Serbian tragedy unfolds and Clinton's miscalculations become more painfully apparent with each passing day other questions are being raised about the economic and domestic political consequences of his Balkan 'policies'. Some readers believe that Clinton has become Gore's point man and that the war will help him promote Gore's electoral prospects. It is also believed that Clinton can use the war to keep the economy on boil right up to the 2000 election. One reader colorfully described this policy as "bomb 'em and feed 'em". Armament factories will be cranked up and food surpluses can be unloaded on to a hundreds of thousands of grateful refugees and a grateful electorate will vote Gore president, or some other Democrat. This is certainly a bleak scenario but one I believe to be totally out of place. Gore is not a popular politician and it is clear that his campaign, apart from the fund raising, is doing badly. Regardless of his best efforts he has not been able to distance himself from the smell of White House corruption, nor should he be allowed to do so. In addition, there is enough die-hard green ideology in his book Earth in the Balance to cause him considerable electoral pain. People closely connected with the Republicans tell me the Party intends to turn his book into a political millstone. It certainly wouldn't be too difficult. Cranking up the armaments industry at this stage would convey the impression to a very concerned public that Clinton was getting the country into a lengthy and bloody campaign. This is one impression he is desperate to avoid giving. There is also the time factor. These factories cannot be turned on and off like a tap. For example, it would take 18 months to 2 years to get cruise missile production lines fully operational, not to mention the time needed to re-man the services and build up combat readiness. As for comparing Kosovo with Vietnam, I think the appropriate comparison in military terms is Korea. However, I don't think Kosovo is going to another Korea. The expense and casualties would destroy the Democratic Party along with Clinton no bad thing in my opinion. The economic angle is certainly erroneous. War materiel is costly. Implementing a rearmament's program means raising taxes, cutting welfare or both. Given the present high level of taxes, government spending and the influence of the welfare lobby the chances of the Democrats rebuilding America's defenses are slight. All of which is sweet irony. If the Democrats had maintained the military machine that Clinton inherited and then gutted and, at the very least, kept spending and taxes at the previous level they would not be facing this dilemma. Any attempt to fund rearmament out of the printing press, as was done with the Vietnam War, would meet strong resistance from Greenspan and particularly the money markets. It is overlooked by commentators that the Fed is already expanding the money supply by about 12 per cent a year. The vast majority of people do not realise just how dangerous for the economy this loose monetary policy really is. I'm glad to say that this is an extremely dangerous time for Clinton. His stupidity, corrupt behaviour and craving for a Roosevelt or Truman-like legacy has led the country into a Balkan folly. He is not likely to find himself caught between a Kosovo impasse and a recession at home. I do not know a single stockbroker who thinks the good times will last. Without exception, they believe that the economy has reached the peak of the business cycle. It is now, in their opinion, only a matter of time before the downturn strikes and that will be before the 2000 election. Americans are going learn the hard way that character and sound judgement count in a president. Clinton's lack of both has cost this country dearly and it has not stopped paying the price in terms of moral capital and economic welfare. The ultimate price, however, might be measured in body bags. Let us pray it does not come to that. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
[CTRL] Clinton, Serbia and the corruption of power
-Caveat Lector- The New Australian Clinton, Serbia and the corruption of power By James Henry No 115, 12-18 April 1999 Lord Acton's dictum that power corrupts and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely is much quoted. But what happens when power, especially enormous power, falls into the hands of an already corrupt man? A man that sees power merely as a means to advance his own interests: to reward sycophants, punish critics, intimidate potential enemies, buy favours from dictators and even wage war to enhance his own position regardless of the cost in terms of blood and misery. Such a man is Clinton. A man with the mentality of a teenage thug who seems literally incapable of making a genuine moral judgement is president of the United States. A man whose pathological behavior has rightly stripped him of all moral authority has declared war on another nation. Do Americans really believe that such a creature can enoble a cause driven by the meanest of personal ambition and the desperate psychological need to politically survive? Do American troops walk tall when they think of their commander-in-chief? Do the men and women who wear the uniforms of the United States feel confident that they have a leader who is really concerned about their welfare? Who feels genuine anxiety at putting their lives in danger. No. What they see is a man who treats them like cyphers or political pawns and whose willingness to sacrifice their lives to serve his ends is only limited by his deep fear of public opinion. He weeps at the thought of body bags, not because of the tragedy they would represent but because of their potential to destroy his poll ratings. He treats casualties in the same manner that television producers treat ratings. As soon as she heard that 17 British soldiers had been ambushed and killed by the IRA, the much maligned Maggie Thatcher immediately sat at her desk and wrote a personal letter to each of these men's closest relatives expressing her deepest condolences. Does anyone imagine Clinton doing that? There is only one fundamental difference between Milosevic and Clinton: the former is not a coward while Clinton is and every American knows it. I predicted that Milosevic would pursue the simple tactic of sitting tight while his goon squads made Kosovo an Albanian-free zone and Clinton turned him into a national hero for standing up to a bully and Clinton is a bully. Some have estimated that up to a third of Albanian Kosovars have already been driven out and that they will soon be followed by many more. This is basically what the war is supposed to be about. A true NATO victory would mean these people being able to return to their homes to live without fear of assault. Not a single NATO general or European politician believes this will ever be possible. And that is why Milosevic is winning. His sole objective right now is Kosova. Once that has been achieved what does Clinton intend to do? There are no real strategic objectives because there is no real plan so there can be no real victory. The whole thing is an exercise in political skin-saving. And I'm talking Clinton's skin. Not a single soul who was remotely acquainted with the conflict doubted for a moment that the bombing would provoke the Serbs into redoubling their efforts to drive out their Albanian neighbors; not out of spite, though that played a role, but in an effort to beat time. Once the bombing started Milosevic knew that he had to accelerate his Kosovo policy to deny Clinton an excuse to continue the campaign. I have been told by those on the spot that they believe Milosevic will soon achieve his objective. What then? Will NATO send in ground troops, meaning mainly American boys, to save Clinton and Blair's pride? I doubt it. No NATO general really wants to go in with less than 200,000 troops. It would take at least several weeks to put this force together and form a campaign plan. Before anyone starts blowing the bugle for the charge, it needs to be pointed out that the Serbian military remains completely intact, its communications are in perfect working order and capable of withstanding the severest of assaults, its armour is unscathed and heavily dug in along with anti-aircraft batteries. Reports are coming in from refugees and agents that tanks, artillery and rocket launchers are spread out among the hills looking down on the roads and valley floors. Tanks are even dug in along roadsides. These activities have been so professionally carried out that allied aircraft have not detected the placements. Of course, none of this matters if you think Serbian forces will simply retreat or surrender. There is no doubt that NATO would eventually defeat Serbia's main forces but would it win the war? Its losses would be considerable but to what end? It could just decide to slice Kosovo off from Serbia but that would be just creating another time bomb with an even nastier outcome. It could try and partition Serbia but I suspect
[CTRL] Kosovo: to which drumbeat do the Democrats march?
-Caveat Lector- The New Australian Kosovo: to which drumbeat do the Democrats march? By James Henry No. 113, 29 March - 4 April 1999 The Balkans is more than a political dog's dinner it could be dynamite for the US. The vast majority of Americans cannot distinguish between Balkan and Baltic. But they soon will. They will also learn why the Balkans were considered at the turn of the century by sophisticated European politicians to be the "powder keg" of Europe. It was there that the Great War was ignited by the assassination of Prince Franz Ferdinand by a Serbian nationalist in the city of Sarajevo in 1914. Now, as we approach the turning of another century, the Balkans have once again become a "powder keg" and good ol' President Bill Clinton (patron saint of draft dodgers) has decided to light another fuse. Why? What is it all about? How does Bill's Big Balkan Adventure serve the interests of Americans, or even most Europeans? The Republican's only support him out of traditional respect for the presidency, an office that Bill and his friends cheerfully dragged into the sewer. But why are the Democrats once again in lockstep with a policy that will bring home body bags for no apparent good reason? As I pointed out in American liberalism and fifth columns* the Democrats now support interventionist policies that guarantee casualties and huge costs in materiel without any gain for the American people. When Reagan funded anti-Marxist groups struggling to overthrow pro-Soviet regimes he was accused by Democrats of interfering in these states' internal affairs, even though these states intended to spread revolution right up to the Rio Grande. Now that's what I call an American interest. Yet they ridiculed Reagan when he pointed this out. And that is my basic point. It is because this action does not serve US security interests that these Democrats support it. The same Democrats who attacked operation Desert Storm. A Democratic administration involved the US in Vietnam for the noblest of reasons. The same will never be said of US actions in Serbia. Many left-wing Democrats in the Senate and Congress see intervention in Bosnia as a moral crusade and that is why they are so willing to send American troops and pilots into combat in Bosnia and Serbia. Naturally, these politicians are not so morally committed as to volunteer for combat themselves. They've got dumb patriotic Americans to do that for them. The kind that respect the flag and the Constitution and all that they stand for. I began with the statement that the Balkan's are more than political dog's dinner. Even that is an understatement. The region's ancient hatreds, blood feuds, religious and ethnic conflicts go back centuries, even before the Turkish conquest, and they are not going to be resolved by NATO bombings. The region was the last genuine Turkish outpost in Europe until the 1878 Congress of Berlin saw the virtual annexation of Bosnia-Herzegovina by the Austro-Hungarian Empire, despite the Kingdom of Serbia's historical claim to the area. That was 121 years ago. The Austro-Hungarian Empire has gone, along with the Habsburgs, but NATO has arrived instead. NATO is a defensive organisation: it has no business becoming involved in military conflicts unless those conflicts present a clear danger to any member of the Alliance. The Balkans do not. They are what they have been for centuries a long-running European tragedy and a boil on the backside of Europe. Well now that it has been lanced, maybe we should let the political puss drain away, brutal as that sounds, while doing everything in our power to alleviate the pain. What we cannot do is occupy the place or change the inhabitants' thinking. Moreover, NATO has violated its own charter which only sanctions force if a member is attacked. (I emphasise is because Bill has difficulty in understanding its grammatical function). I have not argued the rights and wrongs of the conflicts because I don't know what they are. And if I did, I don't see how we could fix them anyway. It's true that terrible crimes have been committed. But crimes on a much vaster scale have been committed elsewhere, and still are, without us being called in. So what are the Democrat's left-wingers playing at? What is it about Serbia, but not North Korea or Beijing, they find particularly repulsive? I reckon I've got the answer. Milosevic looks, sounds and acts like a right-wing thug. As one 'activist' (meaning left-wing) Democrat said to me: "He's nothing but a fascist." To these American Leftists there is something cathartic and vicarious about bombing Belgrade morality hasn't got a damn thing to do with it. It's all about satisfying their ideological fantasies about fascism. Too yellow to fight themselves, they'll see it live care of the Turner/Fonda network as GIs risk their lives to do their ideological dirty work for them. And for this young American men and women could die. These are the very same people
[CTRL] American liberalism and fifth columns
-Caveat Lector- American liberalism and fifth columns By James Henry No. 111, 8-14 March 1999 Many Americans are complaining about the use of US troops in places like Kosovo, Macedonia, Bosnia, Somalia, etc. What these critics have missed is that it is a liberal president who sent them there and did so with the support of liberal-minded Congressmen and Senators. This fact is vitally important because it gives us a clue as to what is really going on here. If we examine the 1972 George McGovern presidential campaign we find that it provided the means by which those who are deeply hostile to American values and contemptuous of its history and traditions were able to worm their way into mainstream politics. It is now their ideological values that dominate the Democratic Party whose only genuine resemblance to the party of Truman and Kennedy is in name only. These are the people who supported Hanoi's conquest of South Vietnam and who broke a solemn pledge to supply Saigon with the means to protect itself against communist aggression. These are same liberals whose political treachery made Pol Pot's murderous regime possible. The same ones who opposed the Reagan military build up that finally broke the back of the Soviet Empire. And did they not also condemn operation Desert Storm? Didn't these very people oppose every initiative and action that curtailed Soviet expansion? Aren't these the people who supported the Marxist Sandinista's and still rationalise Castro's regime? Yet they now callously put at risk the lives of American troops in places that do not in anyway serve American interests. Why? Perhaps all of this will confuse some readers. Maybe they will put it down to left-wing inconsistency or hypocrisy. They would be wrong because there is a very definite pattern here. Every policy these left-wing Senators and Congressmen (I will now refer to liberals as left-wing) strenuously opposed was designed to promote American interests. Every military policy they now support is not only unrelated to American interests they actually endanger them by unnecessarily making enemies. They broke the agreement with Saigon because it was in the interest of American and its allies to prevent a communist victory. On the other hand, they strongly support and defend treaties that violate US sovereignty and endanger national security. Now we have it no conspiracy but a deep rooted hatred of America. To them, America is a racist, sexist, oppressive and exploitative capitalist state. Therefore, because it is unjust and aggressive, actions, treaties and agreements that serve its interests must be unjust by definition and therefore need to be resisted. Breaking the agreement with Saigon which put the South Vietnamese under communist tyranny was just because the North was a socialist state. This is what Tom Hayden thought and it is what he still thinks. And what happened to Hayden? He got himself a Senate seat in California. Has he changed his views? Of course not. But Hayden is but one of many. There is Henry Waxman of Hollywood, Maxine Waters of California, Rep. Peter DeFazio of Oregon, Rep. Cynthia McKinney of Georgia, Rep. Major Owens of New York, Rep. Lane Evans of Illinois. What these members of Congress have in common is their open connection with the Democratic Socialists of America. Former Congressman Ron Dellums is still asssociated with the organisation).** These are the people people who would send your sons and daughters to a Bosnia or a Kosovo while voting against a missile defence system. Why? Because the former does not serve US interests while the latter does. Recent events have clearly demonstrated that the majority of Democratic Senators and members of Congress are to varying degrees within the Waxman socialist camp. This is the real problem. Not conspiracy but ideology. So why don't Republicans attack these people's socialist views and expose them to the American public? Because they fear the media's smear machine. They know the Democrats' media storm troopers would immediately leap into action with screams of "McCarthyism", "reds under the beds", "political persecution", etc, because the media itself is basically left-wing. Between 1979 and 1980 S. Robert Lichter and Stanley Rothman interviewed 240 journalists employed by the country's leading media outlets. Less than 20 per cent had ever voted Republican and 56 per cent honestly believed that America exploited the Third World and was the cause of its poverty. Since then things have only gotten worse. In April last year the Freedom Forum released a nationwide survey conducted by the Roper Organization which showed that 89 per cent of all journalists had voted for Clinton and that only 4 per cent are Republicans. Not only that, 96 per cent of these journalists thought it was their role to 'educate' the public rather than simply report the news. Now you know why the media covered up for Clinton and supports military intervention in areas that are
[CTRL] Now isn't this interesting . . .
-Caveat Lector- For some very strange reason, an email that I have been sending is not arriving to the list or the archives. My computer did quit aol an error one message some minutes after I had sent the first message. Also I have not recieved a message from listserv about a duplicate message and their bot has already disregarded two administrative messages that I sent to the wrong address and told me so, so one would think that their duplicate-bot would be up also. Hmm . . . The message is one about the new MI6 list. what is up? -NEW MI6 List replaces fake one- This is America . . .? Here is a copy of my mail sent screen. Personal mail has been snipped. Om K 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED][12] Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]NEW MI6 List replaces fake one - 3rd try to post!!! 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]test 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]NEW MI6 List replaces fake one 5/15/99 LISTSERV@LISTSERNo Subject 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]No Subject 5/15/99 snip 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]BALKAN CONNECTION - WSJ 5/15/99 Cia-drugs@onelisBALKAN CONNECTION 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Mona's Balkan File 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Namebase on the MI6 Hooplah 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]All the SISA/Tomlinson info - here - but what is true? 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]War of words over spy claims 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]MI6s plot to assassinate President Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia in 1992 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]E-mail death threats for ex-spy 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Ex-spy publishes coded book on Net 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]thomlinson has left timebomb on the internet 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]NEW MI6 List replaces fake one 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Re: [CTRL] OEN 5/d: twisting more of WRENCH 5/15/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fwd: S99-79, Day 53, Update 1 (May 15; 0:30AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's 5/14/99 LISTSERV@LISTSERNo Subject 5/14/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED][4] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. 5/14/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED][3] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. 5/14/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED][1] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. 5/14/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED][2] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. 5/14/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED][0] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. 5/14/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]No Subject It is also not be registered in the archives. Hmm . . . from: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind9905cL=ctrl Table of contents: "Tea Leaves" Indicate Ground Troops (fwd) (Fwd) [FAIR-L] FORGOTTEN COVERAGE OF RAMBOUILLET NEGOTIATIONS All the SISA/Tomlinson info - here - but what is true? Am very distressed! Another Banker Becomes Head of State BALKAN CONNECTION - WSJ Domestic policy, 2000 and Clinton's Serbian folly E-mail death threats for ex-spy Ex-spy publishes coded book on Net Fwd: Ireland first!: Welcome, thanks for visiting!. Fwd: S99-79, Day 53, Update 1 (May 15; 0:30AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's Fwd: Student Bill Clinton 'spied' on Americans abroad for CIA Fwd: dog's leash... Fwd: twisting more of WRENCH How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth. (2 messages) Impeach klintoon again [include algore this time] MI6Õs plot to assassinate President Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia in 1992 Mona's Balkan File Namebase on the MI6 Hooplah OEN 5/15/07 (2 messages) Oops! NATO Kills 84 Refugees (2 messages) Strange Sewage Hits Utah (2 messages) Thank Kissinger for "Chinagate" U.S.'s plan?? UK's nuclear deterrent 'undermined by leak' War of words over spy claims [0] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. [12] Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler [1] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. [2] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. [3] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. [4] The Sacred Landscape Geometry of Rennes-le-Chateau. [teaparty] 14th again test thomlinson has left timebomb on the internet - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let
[CTRL] Is Clinton Worth dying for?
-Caveat Lector- The New Australian Is Clinton Worth dying for? By James Henry No. 116, 19-25 April 1999 What is the US really doing in the Balkans? This is a question that millions of Americans are now beginning to ask in earnest. Unfortunately, most of them seem to be arriving at the wrong conclusion. Continually fed stories of Serbian atrocities, supported by hours of television footage of thousands of Kosovars forced to abandon their homes, it has been all too easy for Americans to assume that their government is engaged on a humanitarian mission. What has not sunk in as yet is the fact that America is at war and it is a war not merely to save Clinton's political skin by driving his scandals of the front pages but to supply him with the kind of legacy for which he desperately craves. A legacy that in his own mind would portray him as a great leader if not actually a hero. None of this is based on Clinton-hating paranoia (I don't hate the man at all I just despise him) but on observation. The manner in which he has climbed to the top, his betrayal of friends and his country's national interests, his corruption and compulsive lying, his contempt for the rights and interests of others, his vindictiveness and spite all indicate a personality that literally cannot empathasise with others, who merely sees people as pawns. Such a personality would have no moral qualms about endangering the lives thousands of US troops if it thought it would promote its ambitions. And what is Bill Clinton's chief ambition? In his book Agenda Bob Woodward relates the tale of Clinton telling his aides how he would have liked to have been president during WW II. This is a chilling and revealing insight into Clinton's state of mind. No sensible and humane man really wants to lead his country into war. He does so out of perceived necessity and nothing else. War means that leaders have to make awful decisions that involve the loss of thousands of lives. Churchill, for example, knew that Coventry was going to be bombed and yet he took no measures to prevent it. Why? Because that would have told Berlin that the British had cracked their codes. Does anyone think he enjoyed making this decision? What kind of man wants to put himself in a position where he has to make life and death decisions for thousands because he thinks it will make him look good? A man like Clinton, that's who. What does he crave? The kind of legacy that the Churchills of history bequeath their countries. Clinton believed that Kosova offered him such a legacy on the cheap. The none-too-bright Albright assured him that Milosevic would quickly surrender to an aerial assault and thus allow NATO, meaning Clinton, to dictate terms to Milosevic. In this fantasy, Clinton emerges smelling like roses, a genuine leader who humbles his critics, despatches his scandals and establishes a legacy worthy of a national hero. Who knows, maybe even Mount Rushmore figures in his dream. However, Clinton's dream is in very real danger of turning into a military and political nightmare for the nation. Elsewhere I wrote that Clinton's actions risked "triggering uncontrollable forces" and that "any Serbian leader who gave up Kosovo might as well commit suicide."* I also pointed out that Milosevic would sit tight while accelerating the drive against Kosovo Albanians. This is precisely what he did. How did I know? Because Clinton gave him no choice, unless you consider suicide a choice. Milosevic knew that the aerial attack would be spearheaded by cruise missiles. He also knew, as would anybody who read an American paper or watched CNN, how many cruise missiles the US had in stock. Well, it is now believed that the cruise inventory may have dropped below 100 because, thanks to Clinton's gutting of the military, there are no cruise missile production lines in operation. This means that low flying aircraft will eventually have to replace them. Something else I pointed out. To make it worse, the risible 'strategy' of using bombing to 'degrade' Serbia's military facilities and logistics have been a dismal failure. After more than 4000 sorties intelligence believes these facilities still largely remain unscathed. Why? Because the important fixed positions are underground, where they have been for 50 years, while mobile units, including hundreds of tanks and ground-to-air missile batteries, remain intact. So Serbian forces still have anti-aircraft missile batteries, thousands of anti-aircraft guns, not to mention several hundred shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles. Does General Wesley Clark know this? Of course he does and this is why, in my opinion, the pentagon is not releasing battle damage assessments. Clark knew from the beginning of the campaign it would fail to severely damage the Serb military because it had prepared itself decades ago for a massive assault. Only then, the expected enemy was Moscow. Very sensibly, the Serbs have pursued the
[CTRL] FW: FPI COVERAGE
Greg, It's closer to 170 million. See: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~rummel/20TH.HTM#1 Much trouble to change the 56 million? Your Posts are very effective! "Thou Shall Not Steal!" because the federal thugs don't Like the Competition!--- Anonymous-- Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.Lord Acton Power kills; absolute power kills absolutely.This Web Site LOL BardVisit me at:The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Governmenthttp://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htmFederal Government defined:a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message-From: GREG ERICSON [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 7:42 AMTo: Undisclosed-Recipient:;Subject: Fw: FPI COVERAGE - Original Message - From:FREE PRESS INTERNATIONAL Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 9:38 AM Subject: FPI COVERAGE Corruption Alert No independent free press allowed to document the crime scene at Columbine High School. This is happening at crime scenes around the world. http://www.realtime.net/~dream/trench.html Free Press InternationalP.O.Box 19300 Suite 181Austin, Texas 78760Website: http://www.realtime.net/~dream/wfp.htmlEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Ph/Fax: (512) 416-8168Founder: Greg Ericson guncont.jpg
[CTRL] Indoctrination
-Caveat Lector- If Spy Agencies indoctrinate their spies to be loyal to them, how do they go about to keep them indoctrinated during long term field assignments? Thoughts? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Now isn't this interesting . . .
-Caveat Lector- Ha ha ha, Your email is probably monitored. Welcome to the club. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] China: Say NO to the NWO
-Caveat Lector- Is it me or is this great country of China acting like a whore who only wants the money for investment but forgets to pay the cops of in time to avoid a raid. I think they should just get the DNA out from Nixon and clone him and send whatever they create to china to renegotiate. I'm already checking everything I buy to make sure it's not made anywhere close to there. With a looming asian crisis and who's the most powerful trade partner what could they possibly expect to gain. Jay DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-15 13:22:40 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wealth is CREATED, not distributed. Even ENERGY can be neither created nor destroyed, just redistributed. 'Twould seem even God has less "power" than an ideological Capitalist. "To a 20-nothing wannabee-yuppie virgin, even Ayn Rand at age 65 is a great lay." --L. Ron Rothbard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Japan's version of Littleton
-Caveat Lector- mass murder is a manifestation of human nature, and thus is not limited to the United States, Britain's ITN television news ran a story yesterday (5/13/99) about a rash of mass murders without bullets in one of the most peaceful nations on the planet--Japan. The ITN story explained that, just as in the U.S., a headline-making killing spree inspired a host of copycat events. Since ITN's website failed (as it usually does), to carry the story, here are the facts as presented by The Disaster Center, http://www.disastercenter.com/poison.hts?view+90864883 Another Japanese Poisoning Six people in central Japan were hospitalized after drinking coffee and tea spiked with a toxic chemical used to inflate car air bags, police said on Saturday. The six -- four students and two faculty members from Mie University's department of bioresources -- made tea and coffee with hot water from a thermos spiked with sodium azide, the same chemical used in a similar poisoning incident in August, police said. The six suffered convulsions and dizziness after drinking the poisoned tea and coffee on Friday. They were rushed to a nearby hospital and all were expected to recover soon, police said. In the other case involving the same chemical, 10 people fell ill after drinking tea laced with sodium azide in northern Japan, about 250 miles away from the most recent poisoning case. No arrests have been made in either case. Japan has been hit by several poisoning cases over the past few months with health officials admitting they were at a loss on how to protect unsuspecting people from tainted food and drink. The most serious case occurred in July, when four people were killed and at least 60 others sickened after eating a curry dish spiked with arsenic at a summer festival in western Japan. today's ITN story reported that a very ordinary looking middle aged husband and wife have been captured and accused of the curry killing mentioned in the paragraph above. The wife is believed to be the primary perpetrator--the husband was an accessory. Who says husbands never help out in the kitchen?]-- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- MJ: Wealth is CREATED, not distributed. Das GOAT wrote: Even ENERGY can be neither created nor destroyed, just redistributed. 'Twould seem even God has less "power" than an ideological Capitalist. MJ: False analogy. Wealth is NOT energy. Regard$, --MJ Few skills are so well rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims. -- Thomas Sowell DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-15 16:48:31 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Few skills are so well rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims. -- Thomas Sowell No one is more paranoid about being "victimized" --e.g., by "Socialist" conspiracies, by competitors in business, by "unjust" laws, by the "greedy" poor, etc-- than a capitalist. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] http://freespace.virgin.net/a.dalla_rosa/
-Caveat Lector- from: http://freespace.virgin.net/a.dalla_rosa/ A HREF="http://freespace.virgin.net/a.dalla_rosa/"http://freespace.virgin.net/a .dalla_rosa/ /A - Be warned that by logging on to this web-site you may be monitered! So save this file fast and mirror it. This is the true list which was first published on the internet a nearly a week ago. Shortly after the web-site was shut down by the British Government, a false list started to appear over the internet which contained the names of fictional MI6 Officers and was probably spread by the government itself as disinformation. It was bound to happen like that! This list gives the original list of names before the site was shut down. Spread it around and mirror it to expose these criminals. You can tell the fake one from the original because the fake one has foolishly been put in alphabetical order which gives away the fact that it has been carefully engineered. Here is the list: Robert Bowen: 90 Windhoek, 92 Tirana. Cor Andrew Boyd: 81 Accra, 88 Mexico City, 96 Islamabad; dob 1950. Andrew John Bryer: 94 Santiago; dob 1960. Christopher Matthew Willow: 88 Nicosia, 94 New Delhi; dob 1963. Alastair Clark. Michael Feliks: 93 Peking; dob 1964; Dr. Roberto Dominico: 85 Hague, 88 Lagos, 92 New York; dob 1962. Nicholai Bernarducci: 88 Lagos, 94 Istanbul; dob 1958; Dr. Richard George Hooper: 68 Athens, 69 Nicosia, 73 Bucharest, 85 Athens; dob 1944; CMG. Donovan Andrew Foulsham: 84 Brunei, 86 Lagos, 95 Rome; dob 1950. Rosalinda Maria Fulvera: 90 Hong Kong; dob 1965. Michael Richard Foxton: 93 Geneva; dob 1958. Richard Leslie Darlington: 73 Helsinki, 84 Washington; dob 1949. Andrew Fulton: 69 Saigon, 73 Rome; dob 1947. Robert Philip Bridges: 86 Warsaw, 88 Moscow; dob 1959. Stanley Armitage Brooks: 72 Rio, 75 Lisbon, 79 Moscow, 87 Stockholm, 93 Moscow; dob 1948; OBE. Christopher Parker: 82 East Berlin, 87 Bonn, 93 Athens; dob 1958. Gregory Benedict Joseph Gatsby: 89 Bonn, 92 Belgrade; dob 1960; OBE. Jeffrey Chittenden. Robert John Paul Temple: 76 Bankok, 81 Berlin, 86 Nairobi, 89 Bangkok, 97 Nairobi; dob 1947. Timothy Clay: 91 Warsaw, 95 Lagos; dob 1960; Mark Hugh Clementine: 86 Tehran, 90 Vienna; dob 1961. John Donovan Nielsonn: 66 Nicosia, 72 Bonn, 72 Brussels, 88 Washington; dob 1941; CMG. Peter Solomon Childs: 80 Khartoum, 82 Canberra, 93 Jakarta; dob 1950. Andrew David Bains: 75 Nairobi, 77 New York, 84 Lusaka, 88 Berlin, 95 Oslo; dob 1947. Nicholas Louis Cooper-Coles: 80 Cairo, 87 Washington; dob 1955; CMG, LVO. Keith Cray: dob 1961. Jonathan Martin James Drake: 88 Cairo, 96 Dubai; dob 1953. Michelle Hayward Davenport: 89 Warsaw, 96 Moscow; dob 1961. Pyoter Brian Davich: 83 Rome, 88 Peking, 96 Jakarta; dob 1954, Richard Billing Fairchild: 68 Nairobi, 73 Prague, 80 Paris, 87 Geneva, 91 Washington; dob 1945; OBE. John Fairchild. Kevin Derek Everett: 75 Warsaw, 77 Maputo, 83 New York, 86 Kingston, 88 Lisbon; dob 1948; OBE. Carrie Garvey: 81 Bangkok, 85 Hanoi, 92 Phnom Penh; dob 1960. John Harrison Cary Smythe: 69 Hong Kong, 71 Singapore, 74 Peking, 87 Hong Kong; dob 1945. Andrew Patrick Somerset Gibbs: 79 Rio, 84 Moscow, 87 Pretoria; dob 1951; OBE. Sarah Goodman. Anikka Goodman. Keith Robert Grosling: 75 Singapore, 78 Vienna, 86 Manila, 93 Tel Aviv; dob 1944; OBE. Rupert Fitzpatrick Hamilton: 78 Jakarta, 82 Tokyo, 84 Hong Kong, 89 Copenhagen; dob 1948. Roger Graham Talisman: 73 Hong Kong, 76 Sanaa, 85 Hong Kong, 96 Wellington; dob 1950. Stanley Cole Dayton: 95 Lagos; dob 1963. Henry John Clythe: 88 Vienna, 96 New York; dob 1962. Catherine Sarah Horner: 85 Moscow, 97 Moscow; dob 1952. Robert Benedictine Hurd: 95 Warsaw; dob 1964. Robert Mitchell Forest: 74 Nairobi, 80 Turkey, 81 Ankara, 95 Ottowa; dob 1946. Charles Maurice Kenwick-Pierce: 74 Brussels, 82 Nicosia, 88 Hague, 94 Athens; dob 1948. Alec Kershaw: 97 Geneva; dob 1964. Nicholas John Andrew Longman: 86 Montevideo, 88 New York, 94 Paris; dob 1960. Richard Vlach: 95 Havana. James Spencer Kennedy: 91 Kuwait, 97 Damascus; dob 1964. Andrew Whitside: 95 Budapest; dob 1968. Marco Williams: 95 Tehran. Drew Williams: 76 Kuala Lumpur, 79 Bridgetown, 88 Harare, 94 Delhi; dob 1944. Shimon Walsky: 91 Athens, 93 Zagreb; dob 1966; OBE. Claude Benton Miles: 78 Geneva, 84 Dhaka, 90 Islamabad; dob 1944. David John Woods: 78 Vienna, 81 Bucharest, 92 Harare, 97 Pretoria; dob 1951. Alexander Woods: 77 New York, 84 Berlin, 86 Bonn, 95 Warsaw; dob 1951. Alexander William MacBaine: 95 Vienna; dob 1963. Edmond John Scott: 94 Istanbul; dob 1968. Jeremiah Triches: 87 Lusaka, 94 Vienna; dob 1961. Gareth Geoffrey Johnson: dob 1971. Kristina Anna MacQueen: 84 Brasilia, 89 New York, 90 Paris; dob 1959. Norman James Sweeney: 72 Nairobi, 77 Tehran, 83 Bonn, 91 Stockholm, 95 Moscow; dob 1948. Ian Arthur Gray: 81 New York, 85 Warsaw, 93 Prague; dob 1952. Ian Forbes Creed: 76f Lusaka, 79
Re: [CTRL] Bubonic Plague Confirmed in Namibia
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 9:25:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you read the last paragraph there is says it wiped out nearly one-third of the population... Hmmm isn't that what the NWO elitist want to do now? Interesting... I know they say there is a cure for the plague now, but who will it be available for? Jamie Unless I'm wrong, isn't bubonic plague relatively harmless as long as you regularly wash with soap? -Crimm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Women @ War
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FUNDAMENTALIST SOCIAL MOVEMENTS ATTACK FEMINISM AS PART OF THEIR WAR
ON MODERNITY; THE LEFT IGNORES CULTURAL MOVEMENTS AT ITS PERIL.
World Culture War
by MEREDITH TAX
In the past ten years, nationalist, communalist and religious fundamentalist social
movements have surfaced all over the world, moving into the power vacuum created as
local elites have been overwhelmed by the new global
financial ruling class. The emerging struggle is not between East and West, as Samuel
Huntington would have it, but within both; it is a struggle between the forces of
globalization and the atavistic social movements that
have sprung up to oppose it. Civilian populations, especially ethnic minorities,
women and children, are caught in between. Among such movements are the Taliban in
Afghanistan; the Serbian nationalist movement (and its o
pposing counterparts elsewhere in the former Yugoslavia); Islamic fundamentalist
movements in Egypt, Algeria and elsewhere; the Hindu communalist movement in India;
the Israeli settler movement in the West Bank; and a who
le range of militantly patriarchal Christian groups, from the militias to Operation
Rescue, in the United States.
These movements have in common a desire for racial, ethnic and religious homogeneity;
an apocalyptic vision of purification through bloodshed; and a patriarchal view of
women and the family. I call them atavistic because
of the way they yearn back to a mythic past, often the age of barbarism, when their
nation, tribe or religion was great. ("Atavism: Biol. the reappearance in an
individual of characteristics of some more or less remote an
cestor that have been absent in intervening generations." American College Dictionary)
In Israel, to take one example, religious fundamentalists who believe they should
control all the land that was biblical Israel's at i
ts point of greatest territorial strength have repeatedly brought the peace process to
a standstill. And in the United States, a cadre of religiously driven conservative
leaders paralyzed the federal government for more t
han a year in their campaign against the Sixties and Sin, both exemplified by Bill
Clinton.
As central to such movements as ethnic or religious homogeneity is the control of
women. Atavistic social movements attack feminism not only as an obstacle to such
control but as part of their war on modernity itself, for
, like other movements for social and political rights, feminism is inescapably
secular and thus part of the project of modernity, opposed to older forms of social
organization in which women's needs and voices were subsu
med into a communal or religious entity represented by male elders. Even in countries
where the women's movement is led by female versions of tribal elders, feminism
resists being swallowed up in male definitions of the c
lass, the nation, the community; it sticks in the craw. Add to this the threat of
female sexual and reproductive autonomy, then place both in the context of a volatile
world situation where local males are losing power an
d the family has become the last bastion of unquestioned male authority and privilege,
and what have you got? A world culture war, in which feminism becomes the scapegoat
for every frustration and women become the focus o
f every contradiction.
This war takes culturally specific forms in each country, targeting poor women,
because they are most vulnerable, and feminist intellectuals and organizers, because
they stir up the others. Last month in the Bronx, Tabith
a Walrond, a 19-year-old African-American, was tried for homicide in the death of her
infant son. She had been breast-feeding him; her milk was insufficient, and he died of
malnutrition. The prosecution also charged her w
ith second-degree manslaughter and endangering the welfare of her child by failing to
get him emergency medical care when his condition became acute. But Walrond was unable
to get medical care for her son; she was repeate
dly denied a Medicaid ID number by a city administration that has shown an unholy
eagerness to get women off the welfare rolls regardless of what will happen to them
and their children. Tabitha Walrond is but one example
of the way American women are caught between the drive to cut government spending and
release capital from all constraint on the one hand, and backlash tendencies invoking
earlier, more patriarchal forms of social organiz
ation on the other.
To nationalist, communalist and religious backlash movements, feminism, no matter how
rooted in local conditions, represents the globalizing forces that are undercutting
patriarchal traditions. For them, it is intrinsical
ly foreign, a fifth column undermining their efforts at unity. This contradiction is
vividly apparent in the former Yugoslavia. Relatively weak before the Yugoslav
federation began to
Re: [CTRL] CLGA Re: [patriots] Fw: [SonsofLiberty] A Laymans Study andInterpretation of the CONSTITUTION
-Caveat Lector- The Military Occupant administers its regions with the complicity of this State, the nul tiel instrumentality and alter ego of the United States, the Military Occupant. The People within the exterior boundaries of the States party to the Union under the Constitution of the United States for the United States of America have been subverted by the most successful despotic tyranny in written history. The subjugation of American and Americans to these Federal Regions is imposed under the artifice of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States for the United States of America. Within this Amendment is the creation of an honor, a title of nobility, this citizen of the United States. This honor falls under the Statutory protection of the Congress of the United States. This statutory protection is enforced under the military power administered by the Chief Magistrate of the Republic funded by the exaction charged upon the People who are libeled for the cost of supporting this foreign and alien jurisdiction that has usurped the sovereign independent State Republics. The first ten federal regions were imposed by the Sine Die Congress of the United States on March 2, 1867. These federal regions are now overlay the States party to the Constitution of the United States for the United States of America. The administrative cost of these Federal Areas are funded by the imposition of excise, and duties as codified in Title 4, United States Code, section 104-110. (79th Congress 3d Session, chapter 787, page 1059-1061, 54th statute at large) The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance "In a age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell -- From: Robert Wangrud [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CLGA Re: [patriots] Fw: [SonsofLiberty] A Laymans Study andInterpretation of the CONSTITUTION Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 5:23 PM At 10:50 AM Robert Wangrud wrote: At 12:21 PM 5/15/99 -0500, you wrote: From: Robert Wangrud [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with you on the original intent you have stated. Just for more clarifying I add this. The several States were the several "Nations" the word "state" was used in the international sense, which means Nations. They are still the several Nations today that have surrender part of their national powers to a central federal government. The federal government has joined in a conspiracy with the legislatures of the several Nations and committed Treason. Together they have conspired to abolish the several Nations and abolish the birthright Citizenry of the Posterity of these several Nations. With the cooperation of the state legislatures the federal government has created an "INTERNAL" Venue and in this "INTERNAL" venue abolished the several Nations. It works like this: The federal government through The President's Ex Orders and the statutes of Congress established the TenFederal Regional Areas: The Ten Federal Regional Areas established by Presiden- tial Executive Order of ex-president Richard M. Nixon in 3/27/69, Executive Order # 11649 entered in the Federal Register Feb. 12, 1972. (vol. 37, No 30) as amended. Congress ectablished the Ten National Areas: Ten National Areas established by act of Congress Approved September 2, 1960, Public Law 86-682; 74 STAT.578 [Zip Code] The several Nations do not exist under this "INTERNAL" Venue [Zip Code]. This "INTERNAL" Venue also covers the entire Union. How does it work? This will show all the `doubting Thomas', that the ZIP Code is used and does tie you into a regional venue. Since the ZIP Code first became an issue, it has been easy for some to understand, but there are always those few that can not accept the truth when it is before them. They refuse to understand logic, and want proof. This satanic regional govern- ment of ours will not come right out and tell the truth and I believe that this as found was a mistake, but it should prove that ZIP Codes tie you into regional venue, by their own admis- sions. The enclosed quotes comes out of the Federal Register, Volume 51, No. 53, of Wednesday, March 19, 1986/Notices at page 9571 through 9573. It starts at number 150-01 which is a TDO (Treasury Department Order). [Number: 150-01] Designation of Internal Revenue Districts Dated. February 27, 1986. "Under the authority given to the President to estab- lish and alter Internal Revenue Districts by section 7621 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954, as
