[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Face-Recognition Technology Improves

2003-03-14 Thread Tenor Love
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Face-Recognition Technology Improves

March 14, 2003
By BARNABY J. FEDER






Facial recognition technology has improved substantially
since 2000, according to results released yesterday of a
benchmark test by four federal government agencies
involving systems from 10 companies.

The data, which is the latest in a series of biannual tests
overseen by the National Institute of Standards and
Technology, is expected to encourage government security
officers to deploy facial recognition systems in
combination with fingerprinting and other biometric systems
for applications like verifying that people are who they
claim to be and identifying unknown people by comparing
them with a database of images.

But the report also highlighted continuing shortcomings,
like the poor performance of recognition systems in
outdoors settings in which even the best systems made
correct matches to the database of images just 50 percent
of the time. And it cited outcomes that it said needed more
research, like the tendency of the systems to identify men
better than women and older subjects better than young
ones.

The report was strictly a technical evaluation and did not
discuss any of the privacy or civil rights concerns that
have stirred opposition to the technology.

Because the results of the different companies are public,
the testing is also expected to become a marketing tool for
those who did best, including Identix, Cognitec Systems and
Eyematic Interfaces. It is expected to be especially
helpful to Cognitec, a tiny German company that is not
widely known in the United States, and Eyematic, a San
Francisco-based company best known for capturing data from
traits like facial structures, expressions and gait to
create animated entertainment.

``Face recognition had been just a subdiscipline for us,''
said Hartmut Neven, chief technical officer and a founder
of Eyematic. He said that domestic security needs had
created a marketing opportunity that Eyematic was gearing
up to chase.

The results were not as positive for Viisage Technology,
which had been among the leaders in 2000. Viisage said that
the results, that it identified just 64 percent of the test
subjects from a database of 37,437 individuals, were at
odds with the strong performance it had been having with
big customers, like the State of Illinois. While the
government test is the largest for such technology, the
number of images in the database was far below the 13
million that Viisage deals with for the Illinois Department
of Motor Vehicles, where the company says it has picked
thousand of individuals seeking multiple licenses under
different names.

``We suspect there must have been human or software errors
in how our system was interfaced with the test,'' said
James Ebzery, senior vice president for sales and marketing
for Viisage. While Viisage scrambles to explain its views
to customers and chase down any potential problems in the
test, it is taking comfort in the tendency of big companies
and government agencies to perform their own testing on
their own data before selecting Viisage or one of its
rivals.

The government's benchmarking was performed last summer but
the results were not fully tabulated and analyzed until
recently. The report singled out a finding that in
``reasonable controlled indoor lighting,'' the best facial
recognition systems can correctly verify that a person in a
photograph or video image is the same person whose picture
is stored in a database 90 percent of the time. In
addition, only one subject in 100 is falsely linked to an
image in the data base in the top systems.

The report also noted that performance has been enhanced by
improving technology to rotate images taken at an angle so
that the facial recognition software can be applied to a
representation of a frontal view.

The data examined whether facial recognition systems could
help with the so-called watch list challenge, which
involves determining if the person photographed is on a
list of individuals who are wanted for some reason and then
identifying who they are. Cognitec, the leading performer
on that test, gained a 77 percent rating but its success
rate fell to 56 percent when the watch list grew to 3,000.



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[CTRL] Norm Solomon on MEDIA OBEDIENCE

2003-03-14 Thread Jei
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THE CONVENTIONAL MEDIA WISDOM OF OBEDIENCE

  To sin by silence when they should protest
 makes cowards of men.
   - Abraham Lincoln


EXCERPTS:
  Judgments at Nuremberg and precepts of international law forbid
  launching aggressive war -- an apt description of what the U.S.
  government has in store for Iraqi people this spring.

  The deadening lockstep of obedience is easier to fault in other
  societies. Close to home, as the adrenaline of unfathomable
  violence pulses through the televisions of America, the siren of
  deference to authority may seem irresistible. But it isn't.

By Norman Solomon / Creators Syndicate

As the possibility of a U.S. invasion turns into the reality of massive
carnage, the war on Iraq cannot avoid confronting Americans with a tacit
expectation that rarely gets media scrutiny. In a word: obedience.

When a country -- particularly a democracy -- goes to war, the passive
consent of the governed lubricates the machinery of slaughter.

Silence is a key form of cooperation, but the war-making system does not
insist on quietude or agreement. Mere passivity or self-restraint will
suffice to keep the missiles flying, the bombs exploding and the faraway
people dying.

On the home front, beliefs are of scant importance. Antiwar sentiment is
necessary but insufficient to halt a war. Much more is needed than
expressions of dissent that stay within the customary bounds.

Daily media speculation about the starting date for all-out war on Iraq
has contributed to widespread passivity -- a kind of spectator
relationship to military actions being implemented in our names.

We can't just blame the media conglomerates and Washington spinners for
the prevailing stupor. After decades of desensitizing propaganda, we
routinely crave the insulation that news outlets offer. We tell ourselves
that our personal lives are difficult enough without getting too upset
about world events.

The conventional wisdom of American political life has made it
predictable that editorial writers and politicians cannot resist
accommodating themselves to expediency by the time the first missiles
reach Baghdad. Conformist behavior -- in sharp contrast to authentic
conscience -- is notably plastic.

A pathetic case in point is Sen. John Kerry, the Massachusetts Democrat
who voted for the congressional war resolution last October while trying
to pass himself off as a critic of President Bush's enthusiasm for war.
While campaigning in Iowa the other day for his party's presidential
nomination, Kerry told a New York Times reporter: When the war begins,
if the war begins, I support the troops and I support the United States
of America winning as rapidly as possible. When the troops are in the
field and fighting -- if they're in the field and fighting -- remembering
what it's like to be those troops, I think they need a unified America
that is prepared to win.

Prepared to win. Such a phrase rolls off an oily tongue with ease. As a
consequence, of course, many blameless people must die.

Howard Dean, a former governor of Vermont, is supposedly an antiwar
candidate for the Democratic presidential slot. On the campaign trail in
Iowa, he stopped short when asked what he would say if there was a war,
according to the Times.

You know, I don't know the answer to that yet, Dean said. Certainly
I'm going to support American kids that are sent over there. Obviously,
I'm going to wish everybody well. You know, you root for your country.

You root for your country. No matter how horrific its actions.

Billions of buds on countless flowers and trees will wondrously open
across the United States during the next weeks. Meanwhile, the Pentagon's
firepower will destroy uncounted human beings in Iraq during what will
be, to put it mildly, a war of aggression.

Judgments at Nuremberg and precepts of international law forbid launching
aggressive war -- an apt description of what the U.S. government has in
store for Iraqi people this spring.

We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen
leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started
it, said Supreme Court Justice Robert L. Jackson, a U.S. representative
to the International Conference on Military Trials at the close of World
War II. He added that no grievances or policies will justify resort to
aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of
policy.

Last November, more than 300 law professors in the United States signed a
statement pointing out that the international rule of law is not a soft
luxury to be discarded whenever leaders find it convenient or popular to
resort to savage violence.

The deadening lockstep of obedience is easier to fault in other
societies. Close to home, as the adrenaline of unfathomable violence
pulses through the televisions of America, the siren of deference to

[CTRL] Solana? a Vatican Puppet? Is ZZuukie a NaZZi ...???

2003-03-14 Thread David Sutherland
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  From: 
  Zuukie 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:20 
PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Solana - a 
  Vatican Puppet - Israel or Ishmael?
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David, 
You are nothing but a sycophant of the 
New Age leaders.

  So how do you think I'dscrub up in a turquoise robe 
  and with golden wand?
  
  I suppose next you'll be claiming I'm a Satanist. 
  
  
  I'll have to practice my evil, diabolic laugh 
  --"Bwhahahahahhaha! Mwhahahahaha!" 
  
  Cough! Cough! Cough! Well -- I'm sure with your help I'll 
  get there!
The New Age attack started at the 
time of the Fabian movement at the turn of the century and has continued on 
the monotheistic religions, and that includes Jew and 
Catholics.

  It would have been more accurate if you noted thatmost 
  religious Muslims and Jews are 'monotheists'. In fact, Islam is the 
  largest 'monotheist' religion on the planet.How come you neglect 
  that fact in every post?
  
  Catholics worship a trinity of gods and a goddess they call 
  the Virgin"queen of heaven"-- so how you can say they 
  are monotheists is a little unnerving about your knowledge of religion. 
  
  
  Particularly so,since I think you claim to be a Jewish 
  person and Catholics are well-known idolaters who break the commandment of 
  'G-d' not to make, worship or bow before lifeless idols including effigy's 
  of their god Jesus -- theologically a blasphemousconcept to 
  religious Jews.
  
  Further, in principle what exactly is wrong with some new 
  movement having a go at running the show? The Jews,Catholics, 
  Islamists and et al have had a go of it for hundreds of years. What a mess 
  of the world they've made. 
  
  We needfar less religion (none at all would be 
  nice) and far more Enlightenmentin the world 
  today.
Antisemites are those who say that because all 
Jews are not morally perfect, all Jews are morally imperfect. That same line of thinking goes for 
your views on Catholics. 
Catholics who don’t live up to the ideals of the Catholic faith do 
not take away from the value of the morality which Catholics all over the 
world attempt to follow.

  There are no morally perfect people. Your own mind 
  betrays that truth when you say people "ATTEMPT to follow" this 
  or that 'moral' thingamabob. 
  
  The only 'perfect' moralists are usually bigots, 
  racists, hate-mongers, Nazis, witch-hunters andcommissars 
  whohave the view that they alone are moral and have the 
  right to judge the rest of societyas immoral -- even to the 
  extent that they feel they must rid the world of evil (non-moral) people 
  and evil (non-moral) thoughts.
  
  Hitler 
  thought he was the most moral man alive as did his henchmen. "The 
  Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges 
  but also puts into practice the high principles of the 
  papacy."-- Franz von Papen; Hitler’s 
  Vice-Chancellor; legate to Pope Pius XII and the arch-negotiator of the 
  pact between the Vatican and the Nazis. 
  
  You see, 
  these people thought that the "morality" they espoused and 
  practiced came from god himself via the high moral "principles" 
  of the pope and papacy.
  
  People 
  who are genuinely decent folks, have little need to speak orshout 
  about themsleves being 
  'moral'.
Catholics leadership, like Jewish 
leadership, has to deal with the fact that others are out to destroy 
them. To that end they play 
politics as every other group does. 
This means exposing those who are out to destroy them, who lie about 
them, who work behind the scenes. 
They share information, make friends where they can and attempt to be 
on top of what is happening.

  It's curious 
  then, that whilst youimply and espouse a "behind the scenes" 
  network of activities of powerful establishment religious hierarchies 
  like Catholicism, you rail in other posts against loose-networks of 
  peacenik, flower sniffing, magic crystal wavingNew Agers,who 
  hold a non-violent approach to world problems and try to find common 
  ground with one another.
You are so hung up on hating Catholics 
that it has skewed your view of reality.

  Now you're getting a little uppity and emotive. Do remember 
  -- you condemned emotionalism as recently as your last post. Well 
  I'mnot hungup about anything really.When you get all 
  excited and uppity you just tend to blather gibberish. But I understand -- 
  its just human.
  
  This clichéd "hating Catholics" stuff is very passé 
  -- 

Re: [CTRL] Who is General Tommy Franks?

2003-03-14 Thread David Sutherland
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The article 
claims what General Wesley Clark is actually not - a Protestant. 


The 'mad 
bomber of the Balkans' who tried to start WW III is a convert to 
Catholicism. 

Raised as a 
Protestant in Little Rock, Arkansas, he converted to Catholicism during its 
Vietnamese Inquisition. 

He learned his 
trade there by killing Buddhists and later applied the experience gained to the 
murder of Serb and Muslim men, women, children and babies in the 
Balkans.

Dave.



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  Subject: [CTRL] Who is General Tommy 
  Franks?
  -Caveat Lector- http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=562Who 
  is General Tommy Franks?Christopher Bollyn - American Free Press 
  If any question why we died Tell them because our fathers 
  lied. - KiplingOverall command is [U.S.] General Tommy 
  Franks, the four-star general, Spencer said. Tommy Franks will work jointly 
  with Air Marshall Brian Burridge, Britains National Contingent Commander. 
  U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) is a unified joint command, which has 
  developed from the concept of the Rapid Reaction Task Force initiated by 
  President Ronald Reagan. Central Command is under the direct command of only 
  three men: U.S. President George W. Bush, the Secretary of Defense Donald 
  Rumsfeld, and General Tommy Franks. CENTCOM has no forces of its own. 
  Troops and assets from the various branches of the military are allocated to 
  Franks command in order to carry out his mandate. Franks has been mentioned 
  as the man who will govern Iraq in the event that U.S. and British military 
  forces occupy the Middle Eastern state of some 25 million people. 
  Spokesmen of CENTCOM refuse to answer questions about Franks 
  background, which is very sketchy, and few details are found in any of the 
  published biographical sources. Biographical entries about Franks are quite 
  unusual in that they do not include the names of his parents or his religion. 
  Asked about why so little information is available about the man who 
  will lead U.S. armed forces in war, a Defense Dept. spokesman said: Hes had 
  his bio out that he wants to put out. He has certain rights. Because 
  we are in a different age, that is force protection, Pentagon spokesman Dan 
  Hetlage said about the secrecy behind Franks background. Thats a personal 
  decision [to release personal information]. It makes no difference [his 
  religion]. He takes his orders from the President. Would it make a difference 
  if Gen. Franks or Gen. Hetlage were in command? Franks is said to be 
  the only child of Ray, a Wynnewood, Okla., construction worker, and Lorene, a 
  seamstress and homemaker. Soon after his birth in 1945, his family is said to 
  have relocated to George W. Bush's former hometown of Midland, Texas, where 
  Franks was a lineman on the high school football squad, who apparently made 
  little impression. When Franks first surfaced as the commander of CENTCOM, 
  journalists could find no one in Midland who could actually remember him 
  having lived there. An archivist in Midland checked the town records 
  for American Free Press and found the Franks family listed only from 1955 to 
  1962, during which time Ray Franks worked at a local hardware store. Oddly, 
  from 1945 to 1955 there is no mention of the Franks family in Midland records, 
  according to the archivist. The same year Tommy finished high school, the 
  family apparently disappeared from Midland records. Having attended 
  the same high school in Midland as the presidents wife, Laura Bush, Franks 
  moved to Austin where he attended University of Texas for about two years 
  before dropping out and joining the army. After serving in Vietnam, Franks was 
  selected to participate in the Army's "Boot Strap Degree Completion Program," 
  and subsequently attended the University of Texas, Arlington, where he 
  graduated with a degree in Business Administration in 1971. Franks 
  collected three Purple Hearts in Vietnam although how he was injured is not a 
  matter of public record. After a long career in the army, Franks, who 
  is an artillery specialist, was promoted to general by former Secretary of 
  Defense William Cohen and placed in charge of Central Command, which is 
  responsible for the entire Middle East area. My faith in God is 
  important, Franks said in an interview, however, it is not known which faith 
  he belongs to. Although it has been said that Franks is of Russian Jewish 
  extraction, the son or grandson of Khazar Jewish refugees from the Soviet 
  Union, like Gen. Wesley Kanne Clark (who was raised as a Protestant in Little 
  Rock), the religious and ethnic background of Tommy Franks is simply not 
  known. That in itself says a lot, independent investigator James W. 
  von Brunn of Easton, Maryland, told AFP. Hes hiding something, Von Brunn 
  said. 

[CTRL] No Blind Watch Maker (2) - Islam

2003-03-14 Thread John Miller
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If you don't mind more of the tedious religious number crunching you could
glance at this and wonder why these coincidences happen.

And so more unpolished just off the keyboard copy...

Thanks
John D. Miller
London, UK

No Blind Watch Maker (2) - Islam

The Enigma of Islam and September 11th 2001

I read that the Hegira is one of, if not the most important event in the
history of the Islamic Nation. The word itself is derived from the Arabic
word to emigrate.

And Hegira refers to Muhammad's journey from Mecca to Yathrib on July 16th
AD622 This journey to Yathrib, that is Medina, by the prophet of Allah was
the start of Islam's rise to prominence in Arabia and this date marks the
beginning of the Muslim calendar, the Hegira.

It was ten years before this that the prophet Muhammad in July of AD612,
proclaimed himself to be the prophet of the one true god, Allah, after
having a mystical experience.

And for the next ten years, Muhammad proceeded to criticize the life style
of Mecca's inhabitants, and he was particularly critical of the ruling
class. This constant criticism led to Muhammads persecution and to his
eventual departure in AD622 from Mecca. His hijra, or flight, a 200 mile
journey to the northern town of Yathrib, and where he was offered refuge.
After Muhammad made his flight to Yathrib, the city would forever after hold
the title Madinatu-n-Nabi, or City of the Prophet, known today as
Medina.

Whilst in Medina, Muhammad established a community of faith built upon the
five tenets of Allah. Since Muhammad received his first revelation in the
month of July and ten years later, in the same month, made his historic
Hegira, the month of July in Islam became a holy month known as Ramadan. To
the Nation of Islam, the flight of Muhammad from persecution was the hand of
Allah guiding his prophet to spread the word of Allah, and words that would
eventually spread throughout the world.

The Earths metaphysical twin, now called Hades, seems to have a year of 360
days, and so 3.5 years, is the Bibles 1,260 days, that is time, times and
half a time. And rather curiously the calendar below is related to specific
events indicated in the calendar on Earth above.

OK, a time marker in the history of the world seems to be that of September
11th 2001, that I refer to as Shroud Day in that it is 4,300 years of 360
days from May 30th 2238BC, the end of the Biblical Flood, hence Rainbow Day
 to September 11th 2001, some 4,238.28352 tropical years of 365.2422
days.

Called Shroud Day because 4,300 x 4,300/20 is 924,500 square feet, the
area that covers the Great Pyramid, the first wonder of the world, the
symbol of Death.

And counting from Rainbow Day May 30th 2238BC to the start of the Islamic
calendar on July 16th AD622 is 2,859.12746 years and 2,900.761129 years of
360 days.

And counting from the start of the Hegira, July 16th AD622 to September 11th
2001 is 1,379.15606 Earth years and 1,399.23872 Hades years of 360 days.

Next I multiply all 4 periods, that is 2,859.12746 x 2,900.761129 x
1,379.15606 x 1,399.23872 years and square root twice and cube root once x
1,000 is as 12,599.52655 days, some 34.49636 years.

And counting 34.49636 years from the circumcision of Jesus Christ, Gods
blood covenant, at say 8am on October 8th 6BC it is accurately 3pm Friday,
April 7th AD30, the time that Jesus Christ died on the Cross, outside the
wall of Jerusalem. And 3 hours later, at sunset, the tomb was shut, and the
day of Passover began, the day of remembrance, when the Jewish people
remembered their Exodus from Egypt, and from the shadow of the Great
Pyramid, 1,470 years before in 1441BC.

Or I can multiply all 4 periods, that is 2,859.12746 x 2,900.761129 x
1,379.15606 x 1,399.23872 years and square root twice is as years
2,001.150511 Hades years of 360 days, at 1,971.4430 Earth years. And
counting down from 9am Tuesday September 11th 2001 the 1,971.4430 years is
1.30pm Sunday, April 2nd AD30, the day Jesus Christ rode into Jerusalem on
Palm Sunday,

 And as he went, they spread their clothes in the way. And when he was come
nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of
the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the
mighty works that they had seen; Saying, Blessed [be] the King that cometh
in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest. Luke
19:36-38

So strangely, the date of the Islamic Hegira, the start of their calendar on
July 16th AD622 not only shows the period form the circumcision to the death
of Jesus Christ, but also Jesus Christ the King who is the Lord God, thanks
to Rainbow Day and Shroud Day that is September 11th 2001, the day when
Islamic fundamentalists are thought of as destroying the World Trade Center
s Twin Towers, New York, and killing nearly 3,000 people.

Thus some Moslems are in for a shock when they see Jesus Christ written into
their calendar.

JohnDM

PS
Also the reference number for the Law is 46 

Re: [CTRL] [CIA-DRUGS] Hitler's Nazis and the British Royal Family

2003-03-14 Thread David Sutherland
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I'mjust a teeny bit sceptical 
thateither 'webfairy' or 'James Bartley' have a grasp of the English 
language let aloneknowledgeableinfo about some complicated web of 
intrigue about an English Royal Conspiracy, where if, onedomino in the 
intricately muddiedarray istoppled, the whole conspiracy shebang 
falls over.

Were all American and British Liberals 
and Communists Stalinists because they believed in particular Socialist ideals? 
Were all Germans Nazis? Were all Royals Nazis because of some contaminated 
'bloodline' theory?Guilt by some distant association and contamination by 
blood(line) is what this article seems to imply. 

Further, Zion in any literate and 
literary sense,became a metaphor for the reproduction of the society of 
heaven upon earth -- Augustine's utopian "City of God" is a classic work on that 
theme.Most cultures developed a similar lore. Even the US was seen at its 
foundation as theimmergence of the "New Zion". 

The 'webfairy' 
flutters,"Whereever Ickies says "shapeshifting lizards" I mentally 
replace it with "demonically posessed" and everything reads just 
fine."

Well that does it 'just fine' for me 
too --how about everyone else?

It completely takes it out of the 
irrational, inane, crude, banal, fictional, scapegoating-crock arena, into the 
realm of the demonstrable, scientific, sane, rational and factual, where we can 
all clearly and absolutely define which people are evilbecause we can 
prove that they are "demonically posessed (sic)". I 
like that idea, it means i don't have to do any thinking, just say the magic 
words you're "demonically posessed (sic)" and 
bobs-your-uncle!

Given the Press' insatiable appetite 
for right Royal misdemeanours, the worst they have shown is that the toffee 
Royals are just all too bloody human like the rest of us. 

It's just that they have a lot of 
accumulated power and wealth that we would like get hold of or take it away from 
them so that they are even more 'human' like 'us' -- 
since we essentially define such terms from the splintered view of our own 
limited reality.

For people like David Icke and 
'webfairy' to demoniseindividuals in terms of 'reptilian' or parasitic 
'blood-suckers,' is perhaps more an indicator of their own personality projected 
onto othersrather than anything to the contrary.

One feels far more of a chill in 
theblood when reading the psychotic, demonising rants of people like David 
Icke and his Icke-ite acolytes,than about the oft foolish and oft 
deliriously amusingpublic exploits and personal foibles of the Royal 
toffs.

Dave.



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Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Hitler's Nazis and the British Royal 
Family
 -Caveat Lector- 
 Since David Ickies is under persecution by Richard "Truth is No 
Defense" Warman, David Ickies website has been elevated to my 
list of "Least Likely to Be Compromised" sources, which is a very short 
list. Warman gets sicced on folks who make the Big Guys nervous. 
Whereever Ickies says "shapeshifting lizards" I mentally replace it with 
"demonically posessed" and everything reads just fine.  I am 
starting to think the word "Royal" itself refers to the Templar Crown of 
Sion, and not any particular nationality.  It is the Templar 
Crown who's overarching obsession has been Israel and the restoration of 
the Second Temple, and the Templar Crown with Soverignty above British 
Law right in the heart of London. It is the Templar Crown for which the 
IRS collects taxes, the reason for the accursed Gold Fringe on judicical 
flags, and the true owner and controller of Israel.  
Sion, aka Zion, represents the remnant of an ancient religion that 
practiced human sacrifice as necromancy and considered incest and 
pedophilia normal. Evidence of practice of this religion is visable 
whereever you find catacombs. These were their ritual chambers. One of 
their signs was the fish, but this is connected not to early christians, 
but as a mark of their ancient fish god who reappears as Neptune. 
  FASCINATING CONNECTIONS BETWEEN HITLER'S NAZIS 
AND THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY  By James Bartley 
 David,  Congratulations on your new book! A local 
bookstore which specializes in "non-conformist" literature has already 
sold out Children of the Matrix. They had to put in another order 
because the demand is so great.  I just wanted to give my two 
cents worth as far as the Duke of Windsor's connection to the Third 
Reich is concerned. It is a truly tangled web but in a nutshell here is 
what happened.  Edward was originally the Prince of Wales and 
was the heir apparent to the British Throne.  I can't 
remember Edward's EXACT quote but the following is an approximation 
thats very close to the original; "Every drop of blood that courses 
through my veins is German!"  Prince Edward made no secret of 
his pro-nazi sympathies and this as you 

[CTRL] Bush FU 2 Pope - 2 Josh Prudy Party

2003-03-14 Thread David Sutherland
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From: "Joshua Tinnin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] George W Bush to 
Pope -- "FU" -- Well SAID!!!

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He still has to deal with his constituency, many of which are Catholic. 
If Dubya ignores the Pope, especially when the Pope is doing nothing 
more than urging peace, he does so at his own political peril. 
 - jt 

  Well maybe 
  president Bush is a man of principle and prefers to follow his own private 
  ethics above that of any potential populist opinion against him. 
  
  
  On that 
  occasion, "ad captandum vulgus" --'to appeal to the crowd,' may 
  not have been his prime consideration.
  
  Dave.

- Original Message - 


  From: Prudy L 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] George W Bush to Pope -- "FU" -- Well 
  SAID!!!
  
  My potted Venus Fly Trap 
knows more about god than any phoney "pope".
  And is definitely more 
  intelligent and devout than Dubya. Prudy 
  

The little 
blighters seem very peaceful and meditative and are ever so gentle with 
their prey when triggered.

The last 
notable man that told the pope to 'get stuffed' was Martin Luther. The 
Reformation engendered the Enlightenment and massive social freedoms and 
technological progress.

"Civilization will not attain to its perfection until 
the last stonefrom the last church falls on the last priest". 
Emile Zola

I think its 
worth a thought.

'AOMmmm ' 
Rev 
Dave.


- Original Message - 

From: "Party of Citizens" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 
12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] George W Bush 
to Pope -- "FU" -- Well SAID!!!

 -Caveat Lector- 
 So the presidential pot called the papal kettle, black... 
   And is definitely more intelligent and devout 
than Dubya. Prudy  And for that matter, more than 
anyone taking the Oath of Allegiance in your country. So why do you 
keep taking God's name in vain? Why not remove God from the Oath of 
Allegiance since nobody knows what God is saying as to how one 
should live on this planet.  POC


They do 
listen to god. 

That god we 
all worship and listen to-- the self. 

Dave.
Pontifex 
Maximus Pharticus.
  
  
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[CTRL] Wanted Dead or Alive: Osama Hussein or Saddam Bin Laden

2003-03-14 Thread Jei
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Wanted Dead or Alive: Osama Hussein or Saddam Bin Laden
By Mike Schelstrate  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
March 13, 2003

The recent scripted press conference hosted by President Bush included a
very interesting question by a reporter; “If you order war, can any
military operation be considered a success if the United States does not
capture Saddam Hussein, as you once said, ‘dead or alive'?” This is a very
interesting question.

To my knowledge, the current President Bush has never said he wanted
Saddam Hussein ‘dead or alive’, at least not that has been widely
distributed in the mainstream media. The party line has been restricted to
the stated policies of Weapons of Mass Destruction Disarmament and Regime
Change.

Bush has famously declared he wants Osama Bin Laden ‘dead or alive’. In
fact, this is one of his more popular quotes, replayed repeatedly in the
media for months following the September 11 terrorist attack. I clearly
remember Cowboy Bush leaning back in his chair in the Oval Office, and
declaring in a gruff voice something similar to, “I remember a poster from
the old west; “Wanted Dead or Alive.” This is my intention for Mister
Osama Bin Laden.” People all over the world saw this video clip, and is
one of the reasons the Cowboy nickname was attached to our fearless leader
by the Europeans. Could the reporters question have possibly been an
innocent mistake? Not likely in a scripted press conference where all
questions are approved beforehand by Ari Fleischer and his staff.

This press conference is a great example of professional lies and
disinformation propagated by the media in conjunction with the current
administration in Washington. If the Iraqi regime are not connected to the
terrorist attacks, we have no reason to invade Iraq at this time. The
entire Bush Administration has been working furiously during the last year
in an attempt to link Osama Bin Laden with Saddam Hussein in order to
legitimize the previously planned attack on Iraq. Thus far, they have
failed to find a single shred of credible evidence to support this claim.
Every time they produce another flimsy counterfeit link, it is exposed
immediately as being false. Establishing this link is imperative to sway
public opinion in favor of the war. Obviously, they are growing
sufficiently desperate in their pursuit to resort to Orwellian doublespeak
in an attempt to get their message across.

My greatest concern regarding this incident is that this scripted attempt
at impressing a falsehood on a trusting public goes beyond propaganda.
This is a sublime form of mind control. Implant a blatantly false
suggestion in the minds of the listeners, followed by an enforcement of
the suggestion with supporting comments. Repeat as necessary. Eventually
the listeners will be convinced that the greatest absurdity is in fact
truth. Two plus two equals five, or whatever the government wants it to
equal.

Bush’s hundred year War on Terrorism is a war against a faceless enemy.
This makes it difficult to retain the public support necessary to continue
the war effort. Immediately following the attacks on the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon, the press vilified Osama Bin Laden as the
mastermind. Putting a face on the enemy provides people with a focal
point; now the American public had a despicable individual to hate. This
worked well for our invasion of Afghanistan, President Bush’s approval
rating remained over 70% for many months during this aggressive action.
The daily papers were filled with ominous pictures of the villain, and
breathtaking accounts of how we almost caught him on numerous occasions.
After the takeover of Afghanistan was complete, the hunt for Osama Bin
Laden faded into the background. The Bush Administration focused their
attention on the next phase of their attempt to establish a New World
Order, conquest of Iraq, repossession of the oil reserves, and the
remaking of the Middle East. Documents have been uncovered detailing the
campaign for this illegal action by members of the current administration
dating as far back as 1998. A massive public relations ploy was required
to convince a gullible public to support the invasion. The government has
found it desirable to transfer the malignant feelings people felt towards
Bin Laden to Saddam Hussein in order to put a familiar face on this enemy,
and retain public support for action. We have witnessed multiple efforts
to accomplish this falsehood. A report that suspected hijacker Mohammed
Atta met with Iraqi intelligence officers in Europe was one of the first
attempts, and shows how long ago the plans to link Iraq to Al Qaeda were
set in motion. This report was not credible, and was swiftly debunked by
most credible experts. Many additional attempts to fabricate this link
have followed. To date, all have been unsuccessful.

President Bush stated in the press conference, “Even if the fiendish Iraqi
dictator was not involved with Al Qaeda, he has supported Al Qaeda type

[CTRL] Security Council Members Say No to War - Bush to Go to War Alone, Breaking International Law?

2003-03-14 Thread Jei
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Security Council Members Say No to War
By DAFNA LINZER, Associated Press Writers
March 14, 2003, 3:31 AM EST

UNITED NATIONS -- A U.S.-backed resolution for war in Iraq was in serious
doubt as a majority of Security Council members openly acknowledged they
wouldn't support the measure despite weeks of intense negotiations.

With hundreds of thousands of troops poised for action in the Persian
Gulf, the White House was forced to consider withdrawing the resolution it
filed three weeks ago or calling a vote it seemed certain to lose.

Either way, the United States would be heading into battle, and possibly a
protracted occupation of Iraq, without the backing of the United Nations
and its member states.

While some council ambassadors pledged to work through the weekend to find
a way out of the impasse, others declared the diplomatic process dead.

Amid a swirl of 11th-hour posturing, the White House began planning for a
possible summit this weekend between President Bush and his two staunchest
council allies, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Spanish Prime
Minister Jose Maria Aznar.

Senior U.S. officials said the meeting, tentatively planned for a neutral
nation overseas, would allow the leaders to review final diplomatic and
military strategies.

Meanwhile, the president and his advisers debated Thursday whether to
press forward with a Security Council vote or withdraw the measure and
turn toward final preparations for war.

We are still talking to members of the council to see what is possible,
Secretary of State Colin Powell said. The options remain, go for a vote
and see what members say or not go for a vote.

Powell's comments marked a sharp change of policy since last week, when
Bush said in a televised news conference that he could call a vote no
matter what the count was.

Since the appearance, U.S. officials have claimed they were picking up the
nine necessary council votes needed for the resolution. which threatens
war unless Iraq disarms by Monday.

But at a tense council session late Thursday, it became evident that the
United States didn't have more than six of the 15 council members on its
side and that nothing had swayed France, and possibly Russia, from vetoing
the resolution.

This is not going to fly, Russian Ambassador Sergey Lavrov told The
Associated Press.

China's ambassador, Wang Yingfan, suggested it was time for the resolution
to be taken off the table.

To me it's clear, they just don't have the votes, he said.

France, China, Russia, Germany and several other council members oppose
the resolution because it would automatically authorize force if Saddam
Hussein failed to disarm by Monday. Britain had sought to alleviate those
fears by transferring the ultimatum to a side paper that wouldn't be voted
on.

But France, which led a verbal assault against the resolution, saw the
move as a ploy.

We will say no to any resolution that authorizes the use of force,
French Ambassador Jean-Marc de La Sabliere said at the end of a tense
council meeting.

The United States began the week with the expectation of a vote Tuesday
but by Friday it was unclear when one would be held, if at all.

In Washington, U.S. officials said President Bush could drop the
resolution in the face of a veto and fight Iraq without Security Council
authorization.

Several top administration officials said a growing number of advisers
believe the resolution is doomed and they want the president to cut his
losses and withdraw it. Others still hold out hope for the measure.

The officials, all of whom spoke on condition of anonymity, agreed that a
decision will partly depend on whether the British prime minister wants to
give diplomacy another weekend.

Blair, who is facing a massive revolt inside his own party because of his
pro-U.S. stand on Iraq, desperately needs U.N. authorization in order to
sell a war at home.

U.N. backing would lend international legitimacy to any military action
and guarantee that the world body would share the costs of reconstruction.

U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte left the 4 1/2-hour council meeting
Thursday saying that time is running out. In light of Britain's efforts,
he said Washington was prepared to go the extra mile as far as seeing if
we can reach some kind of basis for understanding within the council.

Ambassadors said informal consultations would continue Friday and possibly
through the weekend, but they held out little hope for a breakthrough.

In Iraq, Saddam's government exulted in the diplomatic turmoil.

The allies have lost the round before it starts while we, along with
well-intentioned powers in the world, have won it, the popular daily
Babil, owned by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's son, Odai, said in a
front-page editorial.

Six uncommitted nations -- Angola, Cameroon, Chile, Guinea, Mexico and
Pakistan -- tried Thursday to bridge the deep divide.

Washington had been counting on the support of Mexico, Pakistan and at
least two of the African 

Re: [CTRL] Masons the KKK but who is 'Neil Brick' S.M.A.R.T. News?

2003-03-14 Thread iNFoWaRZ
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All you have to do is read the various bloody murderous oaths of degrees
of Freemasonry, which are well documented, and one can see that
Freemasonry is a despicable murderous religious cult.


At 10:34 AM 3/15/03 , you wrote:
-Caveat Lector- 
-- in the manufacture of devils there
seems no end --

How does this trinity of libellous posts
by S.M.A.R.T. targeted to demonise Masons stand the test of evidence?


Each posts 'evidence' contained not ONE
shred of fact but a multitude of -- allegedly
allegedly allegedly allegedly
allegedly allegedly allegedly
allegedly allegedly -- ad
nausem.

Well I always like to hear as many sides
of a story as I can. Particularly from folks who are being demonised by
nothing more than scurrilous allegations propped up as 'evidence' and
often supplied by zealous Xtians -- but of course they are an excellent,
factual, reliable source of material certain to be of a non-demonising
nature and from the most morally upright, sexually pure sorts the world
would ever want -- lets get James Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart to lay
allegations next time round! 

Dave.

More below 


 

For the past three hundred years, Freemasonry
has been blamed for many things - and rarely with any evidence
whatsoever. Claims that Masons organized the French Revolution or control
the world are seen by most rational persons as creations of fancy. These
charges are often made by people exhibiting a high degree of paranoia
and/or an overly developed persecution complex.

Neil Brick, however, makes charges which are far, far more insidious.
He claims that Masons practice Satanic ritual abuse of children. Even
more distressing is that through his use of field-specific terminology
and persistence, his claims are being accepted by a couple of people in
the abuse field as having legitimacy - although he has been forced to
admit that they are simply allegations and has never once
produced proof of his wild charges!

Neil is the founder of S.M.A.R.T. (which ostensibly stands for Stop
Mind control And Ritual abuse Today). This Massachusetts, USA
resident hosts an annual conference addressing Ritual Abuse,
Secretive Organizations and Mind Control. He describes himself on
his web page as ...a survivor of alleged Masonic Ritual
Abuse.

While Brick's claims will seem both crazy and stupid to any Mason, he has
nevertheless managed to attract invitations to events where he is able to
preach his anti-Masonic agenda under the guise of stopping abuse. He has
also been able to attract persons who have genuine interests in the evils
of abuse to appear at his programs, the attendance at which he closely
coordinates.

Current members of secret organizations, current perpetrators,
and/or members of unsympathetic organizations are excluded from the
conference. This is for the protection and safety of those in
attendance.. 
One of his speakers for 1999, was reportedly a Captain
with the responsibility for animal abuse at the Animal Rescue League of
Boston. A request to the Animal Rescue League for confirmation that an
employee of theirs was involved - and a request for explanation of why
they would believe that Masons were involved with abuse of any kind - has
gone unanswered despite repeated requests. (We note that this person has
supposedly now died and the year 2000 conference is in his memory.
Strange coincidence?)

Using phraseology to ingratiate himself with others in the abuse survivor
movement, he is quick to add the wording throughout the site warning,
Caution: this material may be triggering. 

His anti-Masonic position is never fully explained. In one of his
sample
newsletters, he gives links to four sites including the Scottish Rite
and their Museum of Our National Heritage (described
here on our site)
indicating ...may be very triggering and/or are sympathetic to
alleged perpetrators. Please use caution when visiting these sites.
In a totally contradictory and bizarre turn, however, there are two other
links are to a primary writer for Lyndon Larouche, Anton Chaitkin. For
someone who wants to help abuse victims, we hardly think Larouche's
diatribes about government control and violent protests is
appropriate.

A review of Brick's
web site
fails to reveal his specific charges against Freemasonry. He has had other anti-Masons as speakers at his conferences including Lora Burton who advertises herself as a Former Rainbow Girl and was one of three participants in the 'Survivor and Co-survivor Forum' of the 1998 (first) Ritual Abuse Conference run by Brick.

Brick's newsletters regularly promote other anti-Masonic sites and activities including the Hoffman material (extra-terrestrials) and the Ministries to Masons Conference discussed elsewhere on this site. You can read his repetition of the many lies in Cathy Burns' book which defames Freemasonry and, of course, repeats the Taxil hoax. 

It appears that Brick has decided that discretion is the better part of valor and has edited all of his newsletters on 

Re: [CTRL] Bush FU 2 Pope - 2 Josh Prudy Party

2003-03-14 Thread Steve Wingate
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On 15 Mar 2003 at 7:46, David Sutherland wrote:

   Well maybe president Bush is a man of principle and prefers to follow his own 
 private
   ethics above that of any potential populist opinion against him.

Or maybe you and Bush are full of it.

Steve


If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.

 -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on
12/18/2000. As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on
their website http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

Steve Wingate, Webmaster
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Re: [CTRL] Bush FU 2 Pope - 2 Josh Prudy Party

2003-03-14 Thread iNFoWaRZ
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At 05:45 AM 3/14/03 , you wrote:
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On 15 Mar 2003 at 7:46, David Sutherland wrote:

Well maybe president Bush is a man of principle and prefers to follow his own 
  private
ethics above that of any potential populist opinion against him.


Bush is a slimeball criminal in the same class as Clinton.  He is a member of Yale's 
Skull and Bones, need I say more?
He has broken his oath to uphold the Constitution daily since he came into office, 
just as every President has for the last hundred years.
Bush has NO principles whatsoever, and his private ethics are equivilent to the sludge 
at the bottom of a septic tank.
As long as Americans keep worshipping government then they will have to suffer being 
led and oppressed by slimebags like Bush and Clinton.
Man of principles.  Give me a break.

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[CTRL] FBI Probes Fake Evidence of Iraqi Nuclear Plans

2003-03-14 Thread Jei
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http://truthout.org/docs_03/031503D.shtml

  Editor's Note:  Another brick in the wall here.  After
 Powell's use of a plagiarized British dossier, and after Hans
 Blix's refutation of virtually every piece of 'evidence' offered by
 the United States regarding Iraqi weapons, there is now this.
 Decide for yourself how solid the case for war is at this point. -
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  FBI Probes Fake Evidence of Iraqi Nuclear Plans
  By Dana Priest and Susan Schmidt
  Washington Post

  Thursday 13 March 2003

  The FBI is looking into the forgery of a key piece of evidence
 linking Iraq to a nuclear weapons program, including the
 possibility that a foreign government is using a deception campaign
 to foster support for military action against Iraq.

  It's something we're just beginning to look at, a senior law
 enforcement official said yesterday. Officials are trying to
 determine whether the documents were forged to try to influence
 U.S. policy, or whether they may have been created as part of a
 disinformation campaign directed by a foreign intelligence service.

  We're looking at it from a preliminary stage as to what it's
 all about, he said.

  The FBI has not yet opened a formal investigation because it
 is unclear whether the bureau has jurisdiction over the matter.

  The phony documents -- a series of letters between Iraqi and
 Niger officials showing Iraq's interest in equipment that could be
 used to make nuclear weapons -- came to British and U.S.
 intelligence officials from a third country. The identity of the
 third country could not be learned yesterday.

  The forgery came to light last week during a highly publicized
 and contentious United Nations meeting. Mohamed ElBaradei, director
 general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), told the
 Security Council on March 7 that U.N. and independent experts had
 decided that the documents were not authentic.

  ElBaradei's disclosure, and his rejection of three other key
 claims that U.S. intelligence officials have cited to support
 allegations about Iraq's nuclear ambitions, struck a powerful blow
 to the Bush administration's argument on the matter.

  To the contrary, ElBaradei told the council, we have to date
 found no evidence or plausible indications of the revival of a
 nuclear program in Iraq.

  The CIA, which had also obtained the documents, had questions
 about whether they were accurate, said one intelligence official,
 and it decided not to include them in its file on Iraq's program to
 procure weapons of mass destruction.

  The FBI has jurisdiction over counterintelligence operations
 by foreign governments against the United States. Because the
 documents were delivered to the United States, the bureau would
 most likely try to determine whether the foreign government knew
 the documents were forged or whether it, too, was deceived.

  Iraq pursued an aggressive nuclear weapons program during the
 1970s and 1980s. It launched a crash program to build a nuclear
 bomb in 1990 after it invaded Kuwait. Allied bombing during the
 Persian Gulf War in 1991 damaged Iraq's nuclear infrastructure. The
 country's known stocks of nuclear fuel and equipment were removed
 or destroyed during the U.N. inspections after the war.
 But Iraq never surrendered the blueprints for its nuclear program,
 and it kept teams of scientists employed after U.N. inspectors were
 forced to leave in 1998.

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[CTRL] WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT, ARI?

2003-03-14 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html



March 14, 2003
WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT, ARI?
A foreign intelligence service forged phony 'evidence' of Iraqi nukes  guess which one ... 

In the midst of a furious debate over the key role of pro-Israel ideologues in pushing us into war, the FBI has announced it is looking into the possibility that "a foreign government is using a deception campaign to foster support for military action against Iraq." Remember the forged "evidence" the U.S. submitted to the UN to support their contention that Iraq sought fissionable materials? We now learn that, according to the Washington Post:

"Officials are trying to determine whether the documents were forged to try to influence U.S. policy, or whether they may have been created as part of a disinformation campaign directed by a foreign intelligence service.  [The forged documents] came to British and U.S. intelligence officials from a third country. The identity of the third country could not be learned yesterday."

Unless it's the African nation of Niger  where Iraq was supposedly trying to buy uranium to develop nukes  that is desperately trying to drag us into war, for obscure reasons of its own, the identity of this mysterious "third country" is no mystery.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war"  the Mossad, Israel's legendary intelligence agency, have more than lived up to their motto in the past, and, in this instance, seem to have surpassed themselves. To feed the U.S. such a crude forgery  the fake letters were rife with fairly obvious and easily checkable errors  and have Colin Powell take it to the UN as "proof" of Iraqi perfidy was a calculated insult, and soon had the desired result.

Attitudes hardened on the Security Council, and prospects faded for a compromise that would give the Iraqis at least some small hope that war could be avoided. As the loose cannon known as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld rolled around on the American ship of state, alienating even the British, the likelihood increased that the President would lose patience and jumpstart the stalled war drive, even if that meant going it alone.

Alone, that is, but for Israel.

The FBI, which may or may not have jurisdiction over the investigation into the forged "evidence," is not exactly hot on the trail of the forgers and their possible connection to a "third country," as their spokesman made all too clear:

"We're looking at it from a preliminary stage as to what it's all about."

What's it all about, Ari? That's a key question the President ought to ask the next time he gets on the horn to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

What it's all about is this: as Pat Buchanan points out in the latest issue of The American Conservative, a cabal of pro-Israeli lobbyists and high administration officials planned this war from start to bloody finish. They have been gunning for Iraq  and Iran, and Syria, and Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan  since long before 9/11. When the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were attacked, the neoconservative branch of the War Party came to the President with "a pre-cooked meal," as Pat put it on MSNBC yesterday [Wednesday]. In a debate with a spokesman for the American Jewish Committee, publisher of the stridently pro-war Commentary magazine, Pat quoted Commentary editor Norman Podhoretz calling for "World War IV"  regime change not just in Iraq, but in a whole slew of Middle Eastern countries, including even Egypt (the second-biggest recipient of U.S. aid, after Israel).

"In whose interest," thundered Pat, "is such a policy being pushed? Why not 'liberate' Cuba?" The AJC spokesman, reduced to stuttering evasion, said he didn't "necessarily" agree with Podhoretz's polemics. But he didn't say he disagreed with the editor of his own publication, either.

Buchanan is right. The tragic irony of this war is that it is being fought to secure an empire: not our own, but Ariel Sharon's. As Arnaud de Borchgrave pointed out in the Washington Times, the "Bush-Sharon Doctrine" was formulated by Israel's staunch supporters within the Bush regime. The documentary trail leads straight back to a number of high administration officials, including Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, David Wurmser and Elliot Abrams, who have relentlessly pursued Israeli rather than American interests.

This fifth column has been backed up by a phalanx of well-connected neoconservative think-tankers organized around Bill Kristol and the Project for a New American Century, which is heavily involved in the war propaganda apparatus on the home front. If you want to know why we are headed toward a bloody and disastrous war in Iraq, you have merely to peruse the pages of a 1996 study, "A Clean Break," co-authored by Wolfowitz, Perle, and Wurmser, and prepared for then-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in which regime-change in Iraq is cited as the path to security for Israel. Syria, the authors aver, is the main danger to Israel  

[CTRL] George, You're in Trouble, Big Trouble

2003-03-14 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen03112003.html



March 11, 2003
When Even Poppy Says Go Slow
George, You're in Trouble, Big Trouble

By WAYNE MADSEN

George W. Bush, the rancher from Crawford, Texas, has finally done it. He has Daddy Bush mad at him. In a recent speech at Tufts University, the elder Bush warned his son against a unilateral war against Iraq. Bush 41 must also have been on the receiving end of some heated phone calls from world leaders tired of the pomposity and bellicosity of the Junior Bush. Bush Pere called for the United States to mend fences with allies such as France and Germany. Junior Bush's messianic call to arms has upset the world economy, rendered 40 year military and economic alliances practically meaningless, soured world public opinion against the United States, triggered political crises in the Britain and Spain, and caused serious rifts within the U.S. and British military and intelligence structures. The intelligence revolt is so serious, a Top Secret National Security Agency tasking memo was featured in Britain's The Observer newspaper thanks to high-level authorized leaks.

Although Daddy Bush was not the best presidential actor available from central casting, he did bring to the table a long history of involvement with both diplomacy and intelligence. He was a U.S. ambassador to both the UN and China and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. Both the UN and the CIA are steaming mad at Junior Bush. Trying to stampede the UN into submission after bragging that there were more "Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US" signs in Midland than there were "God Bless America" signs has ruined his cause on the banks of the East River. Similarly, at Langley, Virginia, seasoned intelligence agents are under pressure to cook the books and come up with smoking guns in Iraq that just do not exist.

Nevertheless, the war hawks in the Pentagon, the National Security Council, State Department, and American Enterprise Institute continue to call for total war. They talk openly of going after Iran, North Korea, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, and Cuba after Iraq is conquered. Hearkening back to the Joe McCarthy days, they brand their opponents as terrorists, as did the repulsive and repugnant ursine creature Richard Perle to New Yorker journalist Sy Hersh on CNN.

The world has had enough of Junior Bush and his gang of xenophobes, racists, anti-Arabs, anti-Muslims, fundamentalist Bible-thumpers, crooked defense contractors and oil moguls, Moonies, right-wing ideologues, and quislings like Tony Blair. Junior Bush's "coalition of the willing" is more like a "coalition of the chilling."

But Daddy Bush's comments interestingly echo those of Brent Scowcroft, Norman Schwarzkopf, Anthony Zinni, and other former luminaries in past GOP administrations. Junior Bush's so-called press conference last week, in which he snottily decided to ignore the doyenne of the White House Press Corps, Helen Thomas, demonstrated that the Resident-in-Chief is under some sort of medication. New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd suggested it was Xanax, others, aware of reports that Junior suffers from Attention Deficit Disorder, opined that he was on Ritalin. Some recovering alcoholics believe Junior fits the bill of a "dry drunk."

Whatever the case, the world is now coming to the conclusion that the real threat t world peace is not in Baghdad, Pyongyang, Teheran, Ramallah, or Tripoli, but right in Washington, DC. No nation or dictator can be expected top remain calm when the President of the United States lumps them into an "Axis of Evil" and calls the North Korean leader a "pygmy." Even that term is pejorative, the Twa people of Africa, once known as "pygmies," reject that term as racist. And speaking of that, this reporter was just a little concerned when it was discovered that "intelligence" documents previously cited by the Bush administration were frauds. The case involved Iraq's supposedly obtaining uranium from the West African nation of Niger. Now considering Junior's previous problems with pronouncing foreign names, I can understand why Ari Fleischer banned that question from last week's news conference.

Considering the fact that Daddy Bush is still on good terms with many European and other leaders, it is apparent that he must be verbally spanking his ill-tempered boy. It must be kind of sad for the elder Bush to see his son going down in history as a very negative footnote. After all, John Quincy Adams had a fairly successful administration. So what's wrong with Junior?

It could be that he is mentally incapable of carrying out his duties. In such case, the 25th Amendment is very clear on a course of action. But Junior's problems actually lie with his closest aids, those who manipulate him to carry out their sordid agendas. And for this, the regime in Washington has started a fire that is spreading rapidly through the corridors of power in Washington, state capitals, foreign 

Re: [CTRL] Washington or Wilson?

2003-03-14 Thread Ray Boeche
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On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 01:46  AM, Euphorian wrote:

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http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=1179
Shall We Go to War?
by Gregory Bresiger

[Posted March 12, 2003]

In deciding whether to wage war against yet another regime  that has
fallen into disfavor with DC, the United States must make some hard
choices. Will we follow the traditions of George Washington or those of
Woodrow Wilson? As Americans grapple with the hard choices involved in
a
possible war against Iraq, a larger set of principles is implied in
this
decision.


That's the 38% of Americans who aren't in support of military attack
against Iraq, as opposed to the 62% who are in support of it.
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[CTRL] Fwd: raids University of Idaho; arrest in Ashland

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Jesus Christ,...Read this

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Now this is really scary
Judy Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]

These two reports just came in. I checked the Moscow-Pullman News and
found the FBI raid at the Univ of Idaho story in the March 13th edition.

Finding the peace activist arrest in Ashland has been more difficult
because the Ashland Daily Tidings archives page is down.

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Subject: FBI raids University of Idaho; arrest in Ashland, Oregon
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These are forwards from the Lane County Bill of Rights Defense Committee
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To: Bridging the Gap between Diverse Communities
Subject: 120 FBI Agents Raid the University of Idaho
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:03 PM
From: Prof. Elizabeth Brandt from Univ. of Idaho

Well, yesterday was an exciting day in my small town. The FBI flew in
120  agents, fully armed in riot gear, on two C-17 military aircraft (I
think  -- they were BIG planes) to Moscow Idaho(population 17,000 +/-)
to arrest  one Saudi graduate student for visa fraud.

The raid went down in  University of Idaho student housing at 4:30 a.m.
in the morning,  terrorizing not only the suspect's family (he lived in
student  housing with his wife and three elementary school age children)
but also the families of neighboring students who were awakened by the
shouting and  lights and were required to remain in their homes until
after 8:30 a.m.

At least 20 other students who had the misfortune to either know the
suspect or to have some minor immigration irregularities were also
subjected to substantial, surprise interrogations (4+ hours) although
none were detained or arrested yesterday. Now, however, a witch hunt for
additional unarmed suspects who supposedly helped the guy who was
arrested is on.

The INS and FBI are working together using Gestapo tactics to question
the  students -- threatening their immigration status (and hence their
 education) if they don't answer questions which are really aimed at
the criminal investigation. They have also threatened their partners
and spouses with perjury charges if they don't talk.

I spent yesterday working with our immigration clinic director and local

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] AMERICA, WHAT WENT WRONG? DISMANTLING THE MIDDLE CLASS

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AMERICA, WHAT WENT WRONG? DISMANTLING
THE MIDDLE CLASS
Steve,
I also agree that Bush is intentionally sending the economy into the
toilet. Even the DUMBEST PRESIDENT IN US HISTORY has to know what
is happening. It is all intentional.
Most people recognize only the RICH and the POOR and a fictional MIDDLE
CLASS. In countries like Pakistan and third world nations there are
only three classes. There are the RICH and the many POOR --- and
the SUPER RICH. That is the structure the SUPER RICH find most conformable
and that is what BUSH is trying to achieve in AMERICA.
The REAGAN/BUSH policy of TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS translated to PISS
ON THE POOR ECONOMICS. Everyone here knows this policy was bad but
I doubt there are many who understand just how bad it was. My article
below makes the ugliness of this policy very very clear. If you do
not want to read this in context skip down the the part highlited in blue.
Brian Downing Quig
INTELLIGENCE CONNECTION REVIEWS
THE CONVENTIONS

DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN, POLIO OR CANCER?
In the weeks preceding our nation's two national political party extravaganzas,
congress voted by a wide margin to extend unemployment benefits an
extra 26
weeks. How fitting. What would free circuses be without
free bread?
It was expected that the Republican Convention would greatly surpass
the
Democratic Convention in lies per minute. After all, the Democrats
only had
to lie about what they intended to do --- the Republicans had also
to lie
about what they have done over the last 12 years --- and what they
have done
is a crime of unfathomable magnitude.
Certainly the Republican claim of the final defeat of world wide communism
sounded impressive to almost every person listening. The truth
in this matter
is far different. If the American public could learn in sufficient
numbers
what was behind this charade, there would be an outcry for Nuremburg-type
trials and the demand for capital punishment for Bush and his accomplices.
Contrary to the lies of Dan Rather and Ted Kopel, there was nothing
spontaneous or unexpected about the fall of communism in Eastern Europe
or the
Soviet Union. In fact, proving this was all planned 18 years
in advance is
rather simple. Col. L. Fletcher Prouty sent me a document
which was never
intended to reach the public domain. This was the program for
a highly
unpublicized conference held February 7-9, 1972 in Washington, D.C.
It was
entitled, A LOOK AT BUSINESS IN 1990: A SUMMARY OF THE WHITE HOUSE
CONFERENCE
ON THE INDUSTRIAL WORLD AHEAD. This conference, staged during
the term of
President Richard Nixon, brought together 1,800 Chief Executive Officers
of
every major U.S. multinational corporation with their counterparts
from the
USSR and the eastern bloc nations. This event was unprecedented
in all of
human history. As Col. Prouty stated "These CEOs came themselves,
they didn't
send their flunkies".
These sessions were chaired by Maurice Stans, Nixon's Secretary of Commerce,
who retired immediately after the conference to dedicate the rest of
his
career to marring the industrial interests of East and West.
A similar
conference has been held every subsequent year. One such conference
was going
on in Moscow precisely when the downing of Korean Airliner 007 was
blamed on
the USSR.
As Ronald Reagan was denouncing the USSR as "An Evil Empire" Senator
Robert
Dole was reading a letter from Reagan to this group which said essentially
---
"Let us all trade together and make tons of money". The Soviet
leaders knew
Reagan's fiery rhetoric was intended only for domestic consumption.
Why not
take the blame for KA 007 ... after all, the USSR was getting exactly
what it
wanted most in the world. In the US the downing of KA 007 was
the 

[CTRL] 2 minus 2

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/7399
Dubya's Profound Double Standard
An Open Letter To The President

New York-based Russ Baker is an award-winning journalist who covers
politics and media.

Mr. President, in the 2000 Presidential election you promised to enact
policies of
compassionate conservatism, but you have failed to honor the classical
definition of either term. Recently, some commentators have begun
labeling the discrepancy between your professed policies and your actions
a credibility gap. But when promises and actions are so shockingly in
conflict, a stronger term is warranted. On the objective evidence, Mr.
President, we are forced to conclude that you are, put simply, a liar --
and, given the particulars of the moment, a dangerous one at that. Many
of our allies understand this better than we, and that is why they are
facing you down.

You yourself have constantly (and justifiably) criticized Saddam Hussein for
saying one thing but doing another. The time has come to hold you to the
same standard.

How can you condemn the role of one brutal totalitarian Arab regime in
fostering terrorism but ignore the more obvious role of another such
regime? Saudi Arabia's historic relationship to Islamist terrorism is far more
clear-cut than Iraq's. Families of 9/11 victims have filed suit against the
Saudis based on long and deep ties with terrorists, yet these ties don't
seem to rouse you to indignation, much less corrective military action. Do
you not find it noteworthy that 15 of 19 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis?
Can you assure us that strong Bush family business ties to Saudi Arabia
don't have anything to do with this willful blindness?

Why do you challenge axis of evil countries that constitute weak threats
while accommodating the strong ones? North Korea has long been a grave
danger to its neighbors. Yet you work to avoid antagonizing that country's
leadership, while hastening to war against Iraq. Could this be because you
believe that you can attack Iraq with some hope of success but are afraid
of the consequences if you take on North Korea? What does this say about
your ability to defend our country and our friends around the world
against real threats to our security?

How can you decry the threat of Iraq to our energy supply, yet advocate
domestic policies that threaten that same energy supply? Your
administration encourages waste of fuel on a scale unequaled in human
history. Americans make up about 4.5 percent of world population, but use
25 percent of the world's energy. Despite the availability of a wide range of
more efficient, cleaner burning technologies, the U.S. accounts for about
25 percent of carbon dioxide emissions causing global warming. At the
same time, the United States refuses to sign treaties adopted by most
other major nations to counteract global warming. You even oppose
sensible steps to improve the gas mileage of the cars Americans drive,
including monstrously gas- guzzling SUVs.

How can you insist that your goal is to introduce democracy into the lives
of Iraqis while you move steadily to erode democracy in the United States?
Even some conservative Republican legislators now consider your Patriot
Act a terrible and dangerous mistake. Broadly expanded wiretap and
surveillance provisions and a new proposal to check the criminal record
and credit histories of passengers before they board planes don't sound
very democratic.

How can you criticize Iraq for its weaponry without explaining the role of
the United States as one of that country's chief arms suppliers and ardent
associate in its war with Iran? This make-and-break cycle is surely good for
the defense industry, but what is the cost for the rest of us?

Why does the United States move to punish only some violators of U.N.
resolutions? You cite Iraqi noncompliance as cause for war, yet you do
nothing about the main violators of U.N. resolutions -- Morocco, Israel and
Turkey, all of which are our close strategic allies.

How can you support the notion of institutional legitimacy only when the
institution in question backs administration policy? You call for U.N. action
on Iraq as a demonstration of the legitimacy of the institution, yet say that
if it does not agree, the United States will act anyway.

Why do you oppose compulsory jurisdiction of international courts when
the court could rule against the United States, but recognize that
authority when you need it? You support the international trials of
Slobodan Milosevic and others accused of war crimes, yet insist these
courts won't have jurisdiction over Americans facing similar charges.

Why are some occupations more problematic than others? You correctly
cite Iraq's 1991 seizure of Kuwait as a dangerous, destabilizing move, yet
refuse to recognize how Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank
foster global instability, ethnic hatreds, and feed directly into terrorist
activity, including the 9/11 attacks.

Why are some targeted 

Re: [CTRL] Washington or Wilson?

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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3/14/2003 9:49:33 AM, Ray Boeche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That's the 38% of Americans who aren't in support of military attack
against Iraq, as opposed to the 62% who are in support of it.

But that's with conditions, isn't it?  Like not going in alone?

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Re: [CTRL] Washington or Wilson?

2003-03-14 Thread Ray Boeche
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On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 10:51  AM, Euphorian wrote:

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3/14/2003 9:49:33 AM, Ray Boeche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That's the 38% of Americans who aren't in support of military attack
against Iraq, as opposed to the 62% who are in support of it.


I'm sure Britain, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland and the other 80+
nations who are in support of our actions appreciate your
consideration of them as non-entities.
Ray

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Re: [CTRL] Washington or Wilson?

2003-03-14 Thread William Shannon
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In a message dated 3/14/2003 11:34:55 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm sure Britain, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland and the other 80+
nations who are in support of our actions appreciate your
consideration of them as non-entities.

80+? 
Oh yeah...the "coalition of the billing" right? 

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[CTRL] RAWilson: Winners Losers

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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http://deoxy.org/winlose.htm
Robert Anton Wilson, The Illuminati Papers, p.93

The Eight Basic Winner Scripts loser|||all

1. The biosurvival winner:
I will live forever or die trying.

2. The emotional-territorial winner:
I am free; you are free; we can have our separate trips or we can have
the same trip.

3. The semantic winner:
I am learning more about everything, including how to learn more.

4. The sociosexual winner:
Love, and do what thou wilt. (Anon. of Ibid)

5. The neurosomatic winner:
How I feel depends on my neurological knowhow.

6. The metaprogramming winner:
I make my own coincidences, synchronicities, luck, and Destiny.

7. The neurogenetic winner:
Future evolution depends on my decisions now.

8. The neuroatomic winner:
In the province of the mind, what is believed to be true is true, or
becomes true within certain limits to be learned by experience and
experiment. (Dr.John Lilly)

loser|||all



The Eight Basic Loser Scripts winner|||all

1. The biosurvival loser:
I don't know how to defend myself.

2. The emotional-territorial loser:
They all intimidate me.

3. The semantic loser:
I can't solve my problems.

4. The sociosexual loser:
Everything I like is illegal, immoral, or fattening.

5. The neurosomatic loser:
I can't help the way I feel.

6. The metaprogramming loser:
Why do I have such lousy luck?

7. The neurogenetic loser:
Evolution is blind and impersonal.

8. The neuroatomic loser:
I am not psychic, and I doubt anyone is.

winner|||all



All Together Now winner|||loser

1. The biosurvival

Winner: I will live forever or die trying.
Loser: I don't know how to defend myself.

2. The emotional-territorial

Winner: I am free; you are free; we can have our separate trips or we can
have the
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Loser: Why do I have such lousy luck?

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Loser: Evolution is blind and impersonal.

8. The neuroatomic

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or becomes
true within certain limits to be learned by experience and experiment.
(Dr.John Lilly)
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[CTRL] Huxley: Propaganda

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.libertythink.com/
And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be within the
next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love
their servitude, and producing  a kind of painless concentration camp for
entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away
from them but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from
any desire to rebel by propaganda, brainwashing, or brainwashing
enhanced by pharmacological methods.

-- Aldous Huxley, 1959

  In their propaganda today's dictators rely for the most part on
repetition, supression and rationalization - the repetition of catchwords
which they wish to be accepted as true, the supression of facts which
they wish to be ignored, the arousal and rationalization of passions which
may be used in the interests of the Party or the State. As the art and
science of manipulation come to be better understood, the dictators of
the future will doubtless learn to combine these techniques with the non-
stop distractions which, in the West, are now threatening to drown in a
sea of irrelevance the rational propaganda essential to the maintenance of
individual liberty and the survival of democratic institutions.  

http://www.deoxy.org/huxley1.htm
Propaganda in a Democratic Society
by Aldous Huxley

The doctrines of Europe, Jefferson wrote, were that men in numerous
associations cannot be restrained within the limits of order and justice,
except by forces physical and moral wielded over them by authorities
independent of their will. . . . We (the founders of the new American
democracy) believe that man was a rational animal, endowed by nature
with rights, and with an innate sense of justice, and that he could be
restrained from wrong, and protected in right, by moderate powers,
confided to persons of his own choice and held to their duties by
dependence on his own will. To post-Freudian ears, this kind of language
seems touchingly quaint and ingenuous. Human beings are a good deal less
rational and innately just than the optimists of the eighteenth century
supposed. On the other hand they are neither so morally blind nor so
hopelessly unreasonable as the pessimists of the twentienth would have us
believe. In spite of the Id and the Unconscious, in spite of endemic
neurosis and the prevalence of low IQ's, most men and women are
probably decent enough and sensible enough to be trusted with the
direction of their own destinies.

 Democratic institutions are devices for reconciling social order with
individual freedom and initiative, and for making the immediate power of a
country's rulers subject to the ultimate power of the ruled. The fact that,
in Western Europe and America, these devices have worked, all things
considered, not too badly is proof enough that the eighteenth century
optimists were not entirely wrong. Given a fair chance, I repeat; for the
fair chance is an indispensible prerequisite. No people that passes abruptly
from a state of subservience under the rule of a despot to the completely
unfamiliar state of political independence can be said to have a fair
chance of being able to govern itself democratically. Liberalism flourishes
in an atmosphere of prosperity and declines as declining prosperity makes
it necessary for the government to intervene ever more frequently and
drastically in the affairs of its subjects. Over-population and over-
organization are two conditions which ... deprive a society of a fair chance
of making democratic institutions work effectively. We see, then, that
there are certain historical, economic, demographic and technological
conditions which make it very hard for Jefferson's rational animals,
endowed by nature with inalienable rights and an innate sense of justice,
to exercise their reason, claim their rights and act justly within a
democratically organized society. We in the West have been supremely
fortunate in having been given a fair chance of making the great
experiment in self-government. Unfortunately, it now looks as though ,
owing to recent changes in our circumstances, this infinitely precious fair
chance were being, little by little, taken away from us. And this, of
course, is not the whole story. These blind impersonal forces are not the
only enemies of individual liberty and democratic institutions. There are
also forces of another, less abstract character, forces that can be
deliberately used by power-seeking individuals whose aim is to establish
partial or complete control over their fellows. Fifty years ago, when I was a
boy, it seemed completely self-evident that the bad old days were over,
that torture and massacre, slavery, and the persecution of heretics, were
things of the past. Among people who wore top hats, traveled in trains,
and took a bath every morning such horrors were simply out of the
question. After all, we were living in the twentieth century. A few years
later these people who took daily baths and went 

[CTRL] PAT BUCHANAN AND JIM MORAN ARE RIGHT

2003-03-14 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.etherzone.com/2003/sart031403.shtml



THE REVIVAL OF RIGHTEOUS OUTRAGE
PAT BUCHANAN AND JIM MORAN ARE RIGHT

By: SARTRE

Guess it takes an Irishman to get the record straight. Hardly a heritage of oppression or a tradition of duplicity, those who trace their lineage back from the Emerald Isle, seem to be among the few who have the courage to speak the unspeakable. So when you hear all the condemnation against Pat Buchanans crucial essay, Whose War? - you know the article has hit a raw nerve, that deserves to be exposed. Buchanan poses an essential, and long taboo subject, that defines the issue:


We charge that a cabal of polemicists and public officials seek to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in Americas interests. We charge them with colluding with Israel to ignite those wars and destroy the Oslo Accords. We charge them with deliberately damaging U.S. relations with every state in the Arab world that defies Israel or supports the Palestinian peoples right to a homeland of their own. We charge that they have alienated friends and allies all over the Islamic and Western world through their arrogance, hubris, and bellicosity.



Is Pat Buchanan correct? Is there a neoconservative clique that seeks to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in Americas interest? Or are we supposed to just rebuke the mere asking of the question?

That pompous propagandist, William Bennett, a sacrosanct toady of the first order would have you believe that Buchanan still has a consistent problem when it comes to Jews. Well, this time the outrage will be the just due of those who possess the unfeigned virtue. Recently on the Fox News, Hannity and Colmes program; Bennett spews his unchallenged innuendo long practiced by the usual suspects. No attempt is ever made to deal with the realities of the policy and examine the true and fundamental interests of America. No the czar of outrage is offended by Buchanan, pray tell! Its time to lay open the utter and dissimulation from such ordained establishment pundits.

Rarely, a fan of Democrat Rep. James P. Moran, at least his Irish stock allows periodically for a brief interjection of candor. If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this. The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going and I think they should.''

Short lived, his nerve to stick to the facts rapidly deteriorated into a plea for forgiveness. "I should not have singled out the Jewish community and regret giving any impression that its members are somehow responsible for the course of action being pursued by the Administration, or are somehow behind an impending war."

Another classic example that the might of the Zionist Lobby breaks the will of those who know better . . . The smear of anti-Semitism is a bogus cover, that seeks only to silence stating the undeniable. Israel First, means America Pays. But do we benefit from such a one sided pretext for the national interest? We reject special treatment for any group or people as wholly un-American. Each people must be judged individually and every vested interest, group and community, has a primary duty and allegiance to our own country. Those who claim a dual loyalty, while forging national policy or advocating foreign benefit at the detriment and cost to America, are not model citizens.

Their is no alliance between Israel and the Untied States, no treaty, and certainly no reciprocal gain flowing towards America. What exists is a relationship based upon intimidation, contrived guilt, extortion, double standards and disingenuousness conduct. We get nothing and only risk national suicide. When will staunch supporters of our country face reality and speak out? Dispensational Christians have been had. Rev. Falwell accepted and flies in a private jet, a gift from his Zionist benefactors. Not exactly following the Lord, is it?

Buchanan concludes with this indisputable assessment. U.S. and Israeli interests are not identical. They often collide, and when they do, U.S. interests must prevail. Moreover, we do not view the Sharon regime as Americas best friend.

So when this view is silenced, distorted or smeared, we all suffer from the pretense of deceit. Note the lying campaign in action, from the Washington Times: "Where you cross the line, as Moran did, is when you make a blanket statement ascribing a view or a motivation to an entire group of people. It is not legitimate when you impute hidden motives to someone or some group, when you don't address their arguments but attack them for who they are."

Sorry, folks, Moran stated only the obvious and did not malign all Jews. The line that is continually crossed is the one that pursues to exempt Zionism from challenge. Attempts to confuse the public with inference of an all-inclusive Jewish support for Israel is a focal point in the 

[CTRL] Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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[CTRL] The Trial Of James P. Moran

2003-03-14 Thread William Shannon
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The Trial of James P. Moran
by William Hughes

Place: Court House at Reston, Virginia 
Date: March 17, 1793 
Presiding Judge and Prosecutor: Abe Foxman 

It was small court house by post-Revolutionary War standards. Every seat in it was taken. Heck, this was the most excitement around these parts, since old Patrick Henry had said, "Give me liberty or give me death."

The defendant, James P. Moran, was a popular local delegate to the House of Burgesses, in Williamsburg. He had been in office for several terms. Most of the voters really liked him. They called him, "Big Jim."

Defendant Moran was asked to stand by Judge Abe Foxman, who, strange enough, was from New York City, and not Virginia. He had arrogantly appointed himself as the delegate's judge and prosecutor.

Foxman announced that Moran was charged with two counts of wrongdoing. Under Count One, he had, "Injured the Zioncrats, (a politically active sect, known for its campaign fundraising abilities), by accusing it of covertly wanting a Virginia led war against the Iraqi Tribe, which was camped on the west side of the Blue Ridge." Under Count Two, Moran had further harmed the Zioncrats by insisting they had, "The power to stop this war from happening, if they wanted to do so."

Oddly, Moran was charged with crimes that weren't on the statute books or recognized under English Common Law. It was an alien kind of experience for the defendant, and the locals, too. They thought as Virginians, that their new federal Constitution, (co-drafted by James Madison, himself), and Bill of Rights, (inspired by Thomas Jefferson), were supposed to protect them from the wrath of any arbitrary authority. They were wrong! There was a new menace threatening their liberties.

Foxman declared a jury wasn't needed in the matter, "since his private organization, 'The Zioncratic Protective League,' had absolute jurisdiction in any case of this type." The Zioncrats also owned the local newspaper. It had been running a series of vicious editorials, even before the trial began, roundly condemning Moran for being a "conspiracy kook." It had also branded the peace protesters in town, "as appeasers."

When Judge Foxman finished his remarks, a man, later identified as Ariel Sharon, an unhinged member of the Zioncrats, stood up. He screamed, "We don't need any trial. Moran is guilty and he should be taken out and hanged! In fact, everybody that lives in his district should be subjected to collective punishment. They are all guilty. They are all terrorists and terrorist supporters. Reduce their homes to rubble."

Well, that violent outburst was too much for Moran's friend, Captain John Marshall. He rose up in righteous fury, as he had done so many times in the Revolution War, as a Continental Army officer. He took Sharon by the back of his pants and swiftly ran him out of the court room and tossed him into the street. He told him, "Don't come back into this court room. It belongs to the people of the sovereign state of Virginia."

Windbag Sharon, who was used to bullying teenagers, dusted himself off. Like all cowards, he refused to fight anyone his own size.

The bold action of Marshall, who was later to serve as a chief justice on the U.S. Supreme Court, unnerved Foxman. It had also liberated the crowd, that seemed to have been mesmerized. Foxman barked at them, "Order in the court or I will call out Sheriff Joe Lieberman!"

Then, another of Moran's friends - George Mason, a young lawyer - roared defiantly back at Foxman, "Who are you to sit in judgment of a citizen of our Republic? Who gave you any of the judicial power of our government? What right to you have to intimidate our elected representative from speaking out on issues of war and peace?"

Foxman, a weasel of a man, was stunned by the questions. No one in any of the 13 new states had ever dared to address him in a confrontational manner. Moran then spoke. "As a delegate, I have every lawful right to my own opinions. Everyone knows that there are Zioncrats, neocons, in this government, who have been cunningly urging a war with the Iraqis. This powerful group must be exposed. And you, Sir, and that propaganda sheet, too, have no right to vilify me or people, like me, who are opposing this unjustified war. The Zioncrats are not above our laws."

Foxman, red-faced, said the court would "adjourn until tomorrow morning." He then quickly exited out the back door, followed by a very angry crowd. The last time, the so-called "judge" was seen, he was running out of town. The locals were right on his tail, shouting "down with the wire pullers," while carrying their tar and feathers, along with a long rail.

"Big Jim" Moran was the last elected official that was ever brought to trial to answer such dubious charges, before such a bogus court and a rogue judge. The reason was simple: Once the American people got their Yankee Doodle Dandy up, the wire pullers knew the 

[CTRL] Tom Ridge's 'Crazy' Plan to Watch the Sky for Spores

2003-03-14 Thread William Shannon
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Tom Ridge's 'Crazy' Plan to Watch the Sky for Spores
Bio-Whatchamacallit
by Mark Baard
March 12 - 18, 2003

Anyone who takes seriously an "orange alert" from the Department of Homeland Security may be comforted by Tom Ridge's new scheme to detect contagions drifting in the air within 24 hours of their release. Bio-Watch promises to give emergency workers the heads-up on bioterrorism attacks, long before victims are being packed into hospital wards. With the U.S. expecting retaliatory strikes should Bush order war against Iraq in coming days, officials want Bio-Watch to be a blanket of civilian safety. Working with the Environmental Protection Agency and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Ridge's department is already slapping filters on EPA air pollution monitors nationwide to catch bits of anthrax, smallpox, "and a number of other agents that we're not talking about," said Tom Coda, an EPA program coordinator. Labs certified by the Centers for Disease Control will test the filters daily for the presence of infectious agents. 

Sounds like a plan. But before preparedness freaks pull the duct tape off their windows, they should first hear what independent scientists think about Bio-Watch. 

"It's crazy," said Jacqueline Cattani, director of the Center for Biological Defense at the University of South Florida. "We don't see how random air sampling can cover a large area effectively. To pick up a potential exposure to a biological agent by air monitoring or other sensor-type technology, you'd have to be extremely lucky." 

The U.S. Army-funded center is instead gathering Web-based reports on disease patterns from health care workers at 13 hospitals, military bases, and amusement parks throughout central Florida. It's a pilot project, but one that scientists consider to be a model for the early detection of bioterrorism attacks. 

Kristin Broome Uhde, an epidemiologist who works for Cattani, spends much of her time eyeballing the secure, real-time reporting system for signs of a bioterrorism attack. "We're looking for outbreaks of nonspecific illnesses or symptoms," said Uhde. "That's how diseases like anthrax and smallpox present themselves, with flu-like symptoms." 

While real-time databases should detect any type or level of attack, Bio-Watch is designed only "to detect large-scale bioterrorism attacks," said Coda. 

Scientists have speculated that a refrigerated warhead bearing smallpox, or an aircraft releasing large amounts of aerosolized bacteria, might affect a big area. But an effort like that would start with a major event seen by hundreds or thousands of people, so Bio-Watch is unlikely to provide much of an early warning to anyone. "People will be getting sick long before the lab results are back," Cattani said. 

Bio-Watch also ignores the threat of small attacks, which seem much more likely than a crop duster seeding Fifth Avenue with anthrax spores. Experts think terrorists are more likely to release biotoxins with jerry-rigged portable devices and through other, "quieter," events. 

"A terrorist might infect himself with smallpox in a suicide attack, trying to infect as many other people as possible," said Christopher Aston, adjunct assistant professor at the W.M. Keck Laboratory for Biomolecular Imaging at NYU Medical Center. 

Even if small disease particles can reach the EPA monitors, many of which sit atop buildings, on the tops of long poles, the superfine Bio-Watch filters designed to catch them will have been rendered useless by the soot and dust they suck out of the air. 

"Checking the filters once each day in Los Angeles, for example, is not going to be enough," said Calvin Chue, a research scientist at the Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies at Johns Hopkins University, in Baltimore. 

Chue, who has been a bioweapons consultant to the U.S. Navy, the FBI, the Secret Service, and the United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM), also said Bio-Watch isn't prepared for the frequent, perhaps hourly, trips that will be needed to avoid clogged filters. "They will also have to train personnel," said Chue, "on how to maintain a property chain of custody, in case a filter becomes evidence for an FBI investigation." 

CDC-certified labs will also be hard-pressed to keep up with even daily testing of air filters from Bio-Watch. "They're already overworked as it is," the Center for Biological Defense's Cattani said. 

Scientists are likewise troubled by the Department of Homeland Security's secrecy over Bio-Watch's technology. "All we're saying is that we're using really powerful vacuums and really good filters," said Coda, of the EPA. A CDC spokesperson would only tell the Voice that the filters for Bio-Watch were developed at labs run by the U.S. Department of Energy. And neither the CDC spokesperson nor Coda would say how the filters are being tested. 

The government is afraid terrorists will 

[CTRL] The Dubya War Glossary

2003-03-14 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15372



The Dubya War Glossary

By Geov Parrish, WorkingForChange.com
March 13, 2003

As in all military actions (can we really call this one-sided massacre a "war"?), government and media advocacy for the planned U.S. invasion of Iraq has introduced a number of confusing new words and phrases, or new usages of existing ones, to the English language. Since many of these are directly opposite of their intuitive meanings, we present here, for your helpful reference, a guide to some of these new linguistic developments. Keep this guide handy by your TV for the next time Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Franks, or any of their minions appear on your screen! 





The Dubya War Glossary 


allies n. Tony Blair. 


collateral damage obs. The hapless schmucks that happen to be in the way when the U.S. bombs civilian facilities or residential neighborhoods. When they do it to us, it is called terrorism. No longer commonly used; such deaths are now ignored entirely. Other obsolete words and phrases include "Osama bin Laden," "Afghanistan," "budget surplus," "economy," "environment," "corporate scandals," "education," "civil liberties," "Constitution," "Guantanamo Bay," and "the end of the war." 


democracy n. The ideal form of a political system  now used interchangeably with the economic system called "capitalism"  in which a handful of wealthy people with occasional minor policy differences take turns enriching their patrons and being elected by a citizenry that is allowed no other choices. E.g.: "We intend to turn Iraq into a democracy, just like the United States." 


deterrent n. A category of military weapons that includes massive nuclear arsenals, space-based nuclear and laser weapons, and chemical and biological weapons research. Only applies when possessed by the United States See: Weapons of Mass Destruction 


disarm v. To blow to smithereens. E.g.: "Saddam Hussein's destruction of his missiles is an impediment to U.S. plans to disarmSaddam Hussein." 


due process n. When George Bush decides a terrorist gets the process that he is due. See: unlawful combatant; torture. 


embed v. To engage in an act of prostitution. E.g.: "Hundreds of U.S. media outlets have elected to cover the war by having their reporters embedded in an American military unit." 


empire abbr. A shortened form of the phrase "American empire." A state in which 196 countries are eternally grateful, or should be, for being plundered by the 197th. See: democracy 


homeland n. That portion of empire which got ignored because the "Department of Defense" is no longer used for defending. 


oil n. Booty. 


Old Europe n. Formerly "allies." A collection of countries too stuck in the mud, or jealous, to welcome empire. See also: world 


peace n. The mythical state achieved when the United States has a complete global monopoly on the use of military force. Not to be confused with "democracy," "freedom," or "justice." See: empire 


the people of Iraq See: Saddam Hussein 


precision bombing n. Replaces smart bombs. What a morally enlightened country like the United States does. Involves using MOABs, daisy cutters, or up to 3,000 cruise missiles to create firestorms that convert oxygen to carbon monoxide and asphyxiate anyone within range of the miles-wide inferno; and then pretending that the resulting fatalities do not exist. See: civilian casualties 


preemptive attack n. Replaces blitzkrieg. Unprovoked invasion of a country that poses no threat, esp. if that country is defenseless and has extensive reserves of oil. 


proof n. Sales receipts, usually from before or just after the Gulf War. E.g.: "We have extensive proof for the existence of Iraq's biological and chemical weapons." 


reconstruction n. The lucrative process undertaken during the occupation of an invaded country, involving replacing destroyed buildings, bridges, and utility systems. There is nothing you can do to rebuild the people; fortunately, they never existed. See: Saddam Hussein; civilian casuallties 


regime change n. Coup d'etat. 


Saddam Hussein n. The nation of Iraq, pop. 24,002,000 (2002 est.); area 172,476 sq. mi. (slightly larger than California), centered on the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers in Southwest Asia, previously known as Persia and Mesopotamia; one of the oldest continuously civilized regions in the world. "Iraq" and "Saddam Hussein" are generally used interchangeably, e.g.: "We're going to bomb the hell out of Saddam Hussein." 


Shock and Awe n. War crime. 


terrorism adj. What they do. 


terrorist n Anybody who dislikes George Bush's policies. See: unlawful combatant 


torture n. 1. A form of due process, inflicted either by the U.S. or its trained employees in less savory third world dictatorships. See: unlawful combatant. 2. George Bush giving a press conference. 


unlawful combatant n. Any opponent of George Bush's policies who the U.S. government would prefer to have held indefinitely 

Re: [CTRL] Washington or Wilson?

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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3/14/2003 11:34:47 AM, Ray Boeche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 10:51  AM, Euphorian wrote:

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 3/14/2003 9:49:33 AM, Ray Boeche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's the 38% of Americans who aren't in support of military attack
 against Iraq, as opposed to the 62% who are in support of it.



I'm sure Britain, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland and the other 80+
nations who are in support of our actions appreciate your
consideration of them as non-entities.

Since when are the Engalish, Spaniards, Grecians, Hungarians, Poles, and
the 80+ nations Americans?  I seem to read in the statement you made
that you mentioned only Americans.

As far as our actions, I recognise that a LOT of people who remain on the
sidelines -- usually in front of their tubes -- use the word we.  I am not
against taking just action but as I quickly learned (when I was subject to
be sent wherever in the World for 20 years)(including Iraq for which action
I volunteered) that reruns are not as impressive as the original show, the
show that was ill-conceived and improperly concluded.  Even Schwartzkopf
and a few other high ranking military men agree with this point.

As far as the other countries, I don't consider a group of nations that lived
under the totalitarian jack-boot for who knows how long to be particularly
representative of anything.  Are they going to send their men and women
into battle?

The Engalish and Spaniards have been imperialist (if not fascist) from
waayyy back (something in their genes?  jeans?)  The Engalish should be
held accountable for the way they screwed up the region 80 years ago
(including the introduction of the possibility of chemical warfare against
the Kurds [Hussein is not an original thinker]).  I consider them to be the
PRIME entity!  Read up on Gertrude Bell (I posted something about her in
the last few days).

As far as the French screwing up since whenever (as you proposed the
other day), the Engalish have succeeded in making more messes around
the world than almost any other country (as they were once the
possessors of the Empire on which the Sun never set).  Middle East,
Northern Ireland, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, India, Kashmir, Pakistan, Burma,
Afghanistan, Dunkirk ... just a few of the successes they have left in their
wake.  And what's even more illustrative of this is the fact that Jack Straw
came out some months ago and admitted as much.

And, lest we forget, the United States divorced itself from the Empire
because its people got tired of royal halfwits running their lives.  As far as
the French being liberated on the backs of the Americans, the Engalish
have received who knows how much support in two World Wars that makes
what the French took look like a pittance.  All that to save a branch of the
Saxe-Coburg (renamed to Windsor 7-17-17) royal family and its subjects.

More directly, if they aren't putting their people on the firing line, the
countries are non-entities.  Some people gain admission to the game just
because they like the fresh air, hot dogs, and beer.

A:E:R

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[CTRL] Confession Of A White House Reporter

2003-03-14 Thread William Shannon
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Confession Of A White House Reporter

It's time to change the rules of White House reporting

>From JONATHAN WEISMAN, Economics Writer, Washington Post:


In the wake of Seymour Hersh's open statements about the way the White House treats the press, I feel compelled to relate a personal story that illustrates how both the White House and the press have allowed manipulation of the printed word in Washington to get out of hand. This is a bit of a confession as well as an appeal to the White House and my fellow reporters to rethink the way journalism is practiced these days.

Recently, I was working on a profile of the now-departed chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, R. Glenn Hubbard. I dutifully went through the White House press office to talk to an administration economist about Hubbard's tenure, and a press office aide helpfully got me in touch with just the person I wanted. The catch was this: The interview would be off the record. Any quotes I wanted to put into the newspaper would have to be e-mailed to the press office. If approved, the quotation could be attributed to a White House official. (This has become fairly standard practice.)

Since the profile focused on Hubbard's efforts to translate relatively
arcane macroeconomic theory into public policy, the quote I wanted
referenced the president's effort to end the double taxation of dividends: "This is probably the most academic proposal ever to come out of an administration." The press office said it was fine, but the official wanted a little change. Instead, the quote was to read, "This is probably the purest, most far reaching economic proposal ever to come out of an administration." I protested that the point of the quote was the word "academic," so the quote was again amended to state, "This is probably the purest, most academic, most far reaching economic proposal ever to come out of an administration."

What appeared in the Washington Post was, "This is probably the purest, most academic ... economic proposal ever to come out of an administration." What followed was an angry denunciation by the White House press official, telling me I had broken my word and violated journalistic ethics.

I had, of course, violated journalistic ethics, by placing into quotation marks a phrase that was never uttered by the source, ellipses or no ellipses. I had also played ball with the White House using rules that neither I nor any other reporter should be assenting to. I think it is time for all of us to reconsider the way we cover the White House. If administration officials want to speak off the record, they are off the record. If they are on background as an administration official, I suppose that's the best we can expect. But the notion that reporters are routinely submitting quotations for approval, and allowing those quotes to be manipulated to get that approval, strikes me as a step beyond business as usual.


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[CTRL] Dec 2002: Where the World Stands On Iraq

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/2240570.stm
Tuesday, 3 December, 2002, 20:29 GMT
Where the world stands on Iraq


The US has been trying to build diplomatic
support for military action to topple the Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Click
on the map to find out where key countries stand on the issue.

United Kingdom:

Prime Minister Tony Blair has been President Bush's most supportive
European ally on this issue.

He agrees with the US that weapons inspectors should not return until a
tough new UN resolution, threatening force against Iraqi President Saddam
Hussein unless he gives up his weapons of mass destruction, is in place.

He has presented a dossier of evidence on Iraq's alleged build up of
weapons of mass destruction.

Senior members of the prime minister's cabinet and many within his party
are not convinced, and oppose military action.

But Mr Blair seems determined to commit British troops to any operations
against Iraq.

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Turkey:

Turkey's strategic location and frequent co- operation have made it the
US's most important military partner in the region.

It already allows US and British planes to use its bases from which the no-
fly zone over Northern Iraq is enforced

The United States says it is willing to invest hundreds of millions of dollars
in military bases in Turkey in preparation for a possible conflict with Iraq.

But Ankara has, so far, made no commitment to allowing American troops
to use Turkish air space and facilities for military intervention in Iraq.

Turkey has been very hesitant to join an invasion. One of its main
concerns seems to be that the Kurds of northern Iraq might try to set up
their own state and that this would encourage the separatist tendencies
of Turkey's own Kurds.

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Germany:

Germany is the only major European nation that has said it will not take
part in an attack on Iraq, even if endorsed by the UN Security Council.

Germany has appealed for a diplomatic solution, arguing that international
efforts to fight terrorism, rebuild Afghanistan and calm the conflict in the
Middle East could be destabilised by a strike against Iraq.

Germany provided finance, but not troops, in the Gulf War campaign.

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France:

Has backed the return of weapons inspectors, but has serious reservations
about an attack on Iraq.

It has suggested a two-stage process, with a new UN resolution authorising
the use of force only being passed in the event of weapons inspectors
being once more prevented from carrying out their work.

France is one of the European states most keen to resume trade with Iraq
and win reconstruction contracts.

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Russia:

Russia has indicated that it might agree to use of military force against Iraq
under UN authority if Baghdad blocks the work of weapons inspectors.

Over the past few months, it has opposed any mention of military force in
a new UN resolution before UN inspectors have been give the chance to
resume their work.

Russia's status as a permanent member of the UN Security Council gives it a
right of veto over any resolution.

President Putin may be looking for US guarantees that a future Iraqi
Government would honour its debt to Russia of about $8bn for past
purchases of weapons and other goods.

Some observers also say Moscow would expect the US to turn a blind eye
towards possible attacks on Chechen rebels in Georgia in return for its
support.

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Israel:

Supports the US policy of regime change in Iraq. Prime Minister Ariel
Sharon has repeatedly called for President Bush not to delay military
action. The Israeli public is being prepared for retaliatory Iraqi missile
attacks against Israel.

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Bahrain:

A key ally of the US in the Gulf, and home to the US Navy's 5th Fleet -
almost certainly a key element in any attack on Iraq. However, Bahrain's
King, Sheikh Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa, expressed his determined opposition
to any unilateral military action against Iraq.

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Kuwait:

Was invaded by Iraq a decade ago, triggering the Gulf War. Kuwait is the
strongest regional supporter of plans to topple Saddam Hussein - despite
unanimous Arab League statements vigorously opposing unilateral military
action. More than 4,000 US troops are based in the country.

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Qatar:

With Kuwait, it would probably be the second major base for any American
invasion. It provided an airbase in 1991. But in the meantime, Qatar, like
other Gulf states, would prefer a diplomatic solution to be found.

Click here to return

Saudi Arabia:

Previously said it would allow the US to use its bases for a strike on Iraq -
providing the action is endorsed by the UN.

But in an early November, Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal said
that while his country would co-operate with any Security Council
resolution on Iraq, it would not allow the US to use its facilities for any
attack.

He later pulled back 

[CTRL] C'est la vie!

2003-03-14 Thread Ray Boeche
The French Connection
By William Safire
New York Times | March 14, 2003

France, China and Syria all have a common reason for keeping American and British troops out of Iraq: the three nations may not want the world to discover that their nationals have been illicitly supplying Saddam Hussein with materials used in building long-range surface-to-surface missiles.

We are not talking about the short-range Al Samoud 2, which Saddam is ostentatiously destroying to help his protectors avert an invasion, nor his old mobile Scuds. The delivery system for mass destruction warheads requires a much more sophisticated propulsion system and fuels.

If you were running the Iraqi ballistic missiles project, where in the world would you go to buy the chemical that is among the best binders for solid propellant?

Answer: to 116 DaWu Road in Zibo, a city in the Shandong Province of China, where a company named Qilu Chemicals is a leading producer of a transparent liquid rubber named hydroxy terminated polybutadiene, familiarly known in the advanced-rocket trade as HTPB.

But you wouldn't want the word chemicals to appear anywhere on the purchase because that might alert inspectors enforcing sanctions, so you employ a couple of cutouts. One is an import-export company with which Qilu Chemicals often does business.

To be twice removed from the source, you would turn to CIS Paris, a Parisian broker that is active in dealings of many kinds with Baghdad. Its director is familiar with the order but denies being the agent.

A shipment of 20 tons of HTPB, whose sale to Iraq is forbidden by U.N. resolutions and the oil-for-food agreement, left China in August 2002 in a 40-foot container. It arrived in the Syrian port of Tartus (fortified by the Knights Templar in 1183, and the Mediterranean terminus for an Iraqi oil pipeline today) and was received there by a trading company that was an intermediary for the Iraqi missile industry, the end user. The HTPB was then trucked across Syria to Iraq.

Syria has no sophisticated missile-building program. What rocket weaponry it has comes off the shelf (and usually on credit) from Russia, so it therefore has no use for HTPB. But cash-starved Syria is the conduit for missile supplies to cash-flush Saddam, as this shipment demonstrates. We will have to wait until after the war to find out how much other weaponry, for what huge fees, Saddam has stored in currently un-inspectable Syrian warehouses.

The French connection  brokering the deal among the Chinese producer, the Syrian land transporter and the Iraqi buyer  is no great secret to the world's arms merchants. French intelligence has long been aware of it. The requirement for a French export license as well as U.N. sanctions approval may have been averted by disguising it as a direct offshore sale from China to Syria.
I'm also told that a contract was signed last April in Paris for five tons of 99 percent unsymmetric dimethylhydrazine, another advanced missile fuel, which is produced by France's Socit Nationale des Poudre et Explosifs. In addition, Iraqi attempts to buy an oxidizer for solid propellant missiles, ammonium perchlorate, were successful, at least on paper. Both chemicals, like HTPB, require explicit approval by the U.N. Sanctions Committee before they can be sold to Iraq.

Perhaps a few intrepid members of the Chirac Adoration Society, formerly known as the French media, will ask France's lax export-control authorities about these shipments. U.N. inspectors looking at Iraq's El Sirat trading company might try to follow its affiliate, the Gudia Bureau, to dealings in Paris.

Is this account what journalists call a keeper, one held back for publication at a critical moment, made more newsworthy by the Security Council debate? No; I've been poking around for only about a week, starting with data originating from an Arab source, not from the C.I.A. (Anti-Kurdish analysts at Langley have it in for me for embarrassing them for 18 months on Al Qaeda's ties to Saddam, especially in the terrorist Ansar enclave in Iraqi Kurdistan.)

This detail about the France-China-Syria-Iraq propellant collaboration makes for dull reading, but reveals some of the motivation behind the campaign of those nations to suppress the truth. The truth, however, will out.

William Safire is a columnist for The New York Times.

[CTRL] Leftist flacks and shills

2003-03-14 Thread Ray Boeche
An Open Letter to the Hollywood Bunch
By Charlie Daniels
www.CharlieDaniels.com 

March 13, 2003

Ok let's just say for a moment you bunch of pampered, overpaid, unrealistic children had your way and the U.S.A. didn't go into Iraq.

Let's say that you really get your way and we destroy all our nuclear weapons and stick daisies in our gun barrels and sit around with some white wine and cheese and pat ourselves on the back, so proud of what we've done for world peace.

Let's say that we cut the military budget to just enough to keep the National Guard on hand to help out with floods and fires.

Let's say that we close down our military bases all over the world and bring the troops home, increase our foreign aid and drop all the trade sanctions against everybody.

I suppose that in your fantasy world this would create a utopian world where everybody would live in peace. After all, the great monster, the United States of America, the cause of all the world's trouble would have disbanded it's horrible military and certainly all the other countries of the world would follow suit.

After all, they only arm themselves to defend their countries from the mean old U.S.A.

Why you bunch of pitiful, hypocritical, idiotic, spoiled mugwumps.  Get your head out of the sand and smell the Trade Towers burning.  Do you think that a trip to Iraq by Sean Penn did anything but encourage a wanton murderer to think that the people of the U.S.A. didn't have the nerve or the guts to fight him?

Barbra Streisand's fanatical and hateful rantings about George Bush makes about as much sense as Michael Jackson hanging a baby over a railing.

You people need to get out of Hollywood once in a while and get out into the real world. You'd be surprised at the hostility you would find out here.

Stop in at a truck stop and tell an overworked, long distance truck driver that you don't think Saddam Hussein is doing anything wrong.

Tell a farmer with a couple of sons in the military that you think the United States has no right to defend itself.

Go down to Baxley, Georgia and hold an anti-war rally and see what the folks down there think about you.

You people are some of the most disgusting examples of a waste of protoplasm I've ever had the displeasure to hear about.

Sean Penn, you're a traitor to the United States of America. You gave aid and comfort to the enemy. How many American lives will your little fact finding trip to Iraq cost? You encouraged Saddam to think that we didn't have the stomach for war.

You people protect one of the most evil men on the face of this earth and won't lift a finger to save the life of an unborn baby.  Freedom of choice you say?

Well I'm going to exercise some freedom of choice of my own. If I see any of your names on a marquee, I'm going to boycott the movie. I will completely stop going to movies if I have to. In most cases it certainly wouldn't be much of a loss.

You scoff at our military, who's boots you're not even worthy to shine. They go to battle and risk their lives so ingrates like you can live in luxury.

The day of reckoning is coming when you will be faced with the undeniable truth that the war against Saddam Hussein is the war on terrorism.

America is in imminent danger. You're either for her or against her. There is no middle ground.

I think we all know where you stand.

What do you think?

God Bless America,

Charlie Daniels

[CTRL] Dell shuns Microsoft's hate-radio toilet shockjock

2003-03-14 Thread Steve Wingate
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By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 13/03/2003 at 22:15 GMT


A hate-radio shockjock whose toilet rants have proved too deranged
even for readers of the extreme right-wing Free Republic has received
a massive career boost thanks to Microsoft here in the United States.

The self-styled Michael Savage debuted on the MSNBC TV channel last
week, a station jointly owned by General Electric, which owns NBC,
and Microsoft. Which owns the personal computer industry. Advertisers
have voted with their feet, and lurched away from the controversial
slot in droves.

Dell Computer told us today that no more ads for the computer company
will air during the show, Savage Nation.

And it's not hard to see why.

[It's] like watching a train wreck, is how one freeper
describes Savage's toxic ramblings.

The tendency to assign any real value to any of these guys is
strange, let alone breathlessly hanging on their every word, writes
another, more level-headed freep contributor.

But the poor chap, who fills his hate-radio slot with vile homophobic
and racist diatribes against gays and brown-skinned people - or any
flavor of commies pinkos and perverts - he doesn't discriminate -
is right now on top of the New York Times bestseller list. And the
middle-management drones who man these media outlets stations seem to
be in awe of this opportunist trash-talker. They think his toilet
contributions are invigorating. Just like a good lynching.

He isn't funny, like PJ O'Rourke. He isn't iconoclastic, like the old
Rush Limbaugh, He's just nasty, but he has made a success out of
complaining about brown-skinned people, and he's commercialized his
own pathologies and repressions (which are quite delicious, as we'll
see) into a lucrative career.

So who is this Michael Savage, and what makes him irresistible to
blue-chip sponsors such as Microsoft?

Herbalist
The 60-year old Savage (who improbably insists that he's 39 years
old) was born Michael Alan Weiner, and spent most of his life as a
freewheeling beatnik bum - at one point befriending San Francisco
beat legends such as poet Laurence Ferlinghetti. But the North Beach
crowd found the tiny Weiner too needy for comfortable companionship.
So, after several years of moderate success punting herbalist
remedies the resourceful Weiner decided to reinvent himself, only
this time, with a toilet mouth.

But his train-wreck rants - which impel a voyeuristic frisson even
amongst the most devoted listeners - have brought in the dollars for
Weiner. The tiny fellow with the Napoleon complex wants to go mad!
Before your eyes!

His career path mirrors the trajectory of former woolly Carnegie
Mellon liberal Declan McCullagh, now a lavishly-paid writer at CNET.
Both realized the value of relentless self-publicity. And both -
McCullagh, like Weiner - decided that principles are for fools.

You don't stay poor for very long if you can defend rich guys' their
right to keep their money, each followed the dollar trail to arrive
at their own, personal epiphany. Each advocates the
gazillionaires' freedom to spend their gazillions. The knack to
pulling off this stunt is in persuading us, dear readers, that it's
our freedoms that are a stake. In all, it's a very simple equation,
and one so alluring that it's never short of fresh McCullaghs or
Weiners to heed the cry. There's one born every minute.

So what drives the tiny Weiner? In a fascinating profile at Salon
written by David Gilson, we learn that Weiner, as a novelist, had
some pretty interesting impulses:-

Inner voice screaming at me for years, first rational, then crazy,
telling me to do mad things. Every form of relief tried, painting,
psychotherapy, running, diet, vitamins, etc., etc. Almost
uncontrollable now. Impulses to stab children, strangers, wife, self
with scissors.

Err, thank you. I think we have quite enough evidence. You don't need
to be Wilhelm Reich to see the connection between personal sexual
repression and fascism, but thanks for spelling it out so
unambiguously for us, Professor Toilet.

The USA's fascination with vile-mouthed hatemongers causes dyed-in-
the-wool Americanophiles (and I am one, so sue me) no end of
difficulties. It's the safest, sweetest and most reasonable place in
the world, then you realize that some people really get off on this,
and the suburbs resonate to the sound of steering wheels being
thumped in vigorous agreement with some toilet rant about the poor,
or brown skinned people, or both.

But this vile phenomenon is only mainstream thanks to the corporate
sponsorship of the USA's largest corporations, who bless it with

[CTRL] Decoding the Abduction of Elizabeth Smart

2003-03-14 Thread Tony Dickinson
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Of abductee expts (+/- FMS angle ?) I can only guess, but I wouldn't be
surprised to discover that this case is followed by increased public
acceptance of calls for electonic tagging (ID + location for starters) of
children ..

Advertisement of future:

Teething problems ?.. maybe (Operation) Blue Tooth is what your family needs.


T.


 She said that escape was impossible because there were, two
 people were with me at all times.  Even in open areas of the city,
 street, parks stores?
 Perhaps, all in all just a kook case unrelated to
 something more sinister.  What's your take?

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[CTRL] Democracy domino plan

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/14/1047583702494.html
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Democracy domino plan won't work: secret report
By Greg Miller in Washington
March 15 2003

A classified United States State Department report expresses deep
scepticism that installing a new regime in Iraq will foster the spread of
democracy in the Middle East - a claim President George Bush has made in
trying to build support for a war - according to intelligence officials.

The report exposes significant divisions within the Bush Administration over
the so-called democratic domino theory.

The report, which has been distributed to a small group of government
officials but not publicly disclosed, says daunting economic and social
problems are likely to undermine basic stability in the region for years, let
alone prospects for democratic reform.

Even if some version of democracy took root - which the report casts as
unlikely - anti-American sentiment is so pervasive, it says, that elections in
the short term could lead to the rise of Islamic-controlled governments
hostile to the US.

Liberal democracy would be difficult to achieve, says one passage of the
report, according to an intelligence official.

Electoral democracy, were it to emerge, could well be subject to
exploitation by anti-American elements.

The thrust of the document, the official said, is that this idea that you're
going to transform the Middle East
and fundamentally alter its trajectory is not credible. Even the
document's title - Iraq, the Middle East and Change: No Dominoes -
appears to dismiss the Administration argument.

The report was produced by the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence
and Research, the in-house analytical arm.

It is dated February 26, officials said, the day Mr Bush told the American
Enterprise Institute in Washington: A new regime in Iraq would serve as a
dramatic and inspiring example of freedom for other nations in the region.

But the argument has been pushed hardest by a group of advisers who
have been leading proponents of going to war with Iraq, among them Paul
Wolfowitz, the Deputy Defence Secretary, and Richard Perle, the chairman
of the Defense Policy Board.

Dr Wolfowitz has said Iraq could be the first Arab democracy and that
even modest democratic progress in Iraq would cast a very large shadow,
starting with Syria and Iran but across the whole Arab world.

Mr Perle has said that a reformed Iraq has the potential to transform the
thinking of people around the world about the potential for democracy,
even in Arab countries where people have been disparaging of their
potential.

The domino theory also is used by the Administration as an argument to
critics in US Congress who have expressed concern that invading Iraq will
inflame the Muslim world and fuel terrorist activity against the US.

But the theory is disputed by many Middle East experts and is viewed with
scepticism by analysts at the CIA and State Department, intelligence
officials said.

Critics say that even establishing a democratic government in Iraq will be
extremely difficult. Iraq is made up of ethnic groups deeply hostile to one
another. Ever since its inception in 1932, the country has known little but
bloody coups and brutal dictators.

We'll be lucky to have strong central governments [in the Middle East], let
alone democracy, one official said.

The official stressed that no one in intelligence or diplomatic circles
opposed the idea of trying to install a democratic government in Iraq. But
to sell [the war] on the basis that this is going to cause 1000 flowers to
bloom is naive, the official said.

Los Angeles Times

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[CTRL] Powell's Mistake ?

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.american-reporter.com/2059/1.html
Vol. 9, No. 2059 - The American Reporter - March 13, 2003

An A.R. Exclusive
POWELL BLAMED FOR 'MISTAKE' IN MY LAI MASSACRE
by Joe Shea
American Reporter Correspondent
Los Angeles, Calif.

LOS ANGELES, Calif., March 13, 2003 -- A former White House covert
operations official has told The American Reporter that Secretary of State
Colin L. Powell, then a military aide to the U.S. Army command staff in
Vietnam, misunderstood a general's instructions and mistakenly ordered
the notorious March 16, 1968, My Lai massacre, and successfully covered
up his error until now. The former official's allegations concerning the
events, whose 35th anniversary occurs on Sunday, could not immediately
be confirmed.

He [Powell] made a stupid mistake, said the official, now a retired and
wealthy civilian, in a wide-ranging three-hour interview last week.

A State Dept. spokesman, Jo-Anne Prokopowicz, said she would forward
questions about Powell's possible role to officials at the Dept. of State.
We don't usually comment on military matters, she said.

The source, who said he would deny the information if he was named in
this story because he has suffered several heart attacks and might not
survive the controversy his charges could create, said that he had been
asked by then-President Richard Nixon to see if the sentence received by
Lt. William Rusty Calley for the Vietnam War massacre could be reduced.

In the course of that investigation, the source said, Gen. William
Westmoreland, the commander of U.S. forces in Vietnam from 1964 to July
1968, told him that Powell had mistaken his orders to subdue the village as
an order to wipe out its inhabitants, and relayed the mistaken order
through an Army major to Calley, who was court- martialed and sent to jail
for murder.

He was released after serving only part of his sentence as the result of his
findings, the source said. Westmoreland left Vietnam to become Army Chief
of Staff just four months after the incident and before Calley was court-
martialed. The source said he did not talk with Powell about the incident,
but did talk with the major through whom the orders were relayed to
Calley.

According to various reports, some 347 unarmed men, women and children
were wiped out in the village, which was actually named Son My. Several
officers were charged with covering up the incident, and five were court-
martialed. Lt. Calley was convicted and sentenced to life in prison for the
murder of 22 unarmed civilians. His sentence was reduced to 10 years, and
in 1974 a Federal court judge reversed the conviction and freed Calley.

Powell, a major and deputy assistant chief of staff for operations G-3 at
Americal Division headqurters in Chu Lai, was assigned eight months later
to investigate rumors of the the incident and wrote a controversial 1969
official report that cleared American soldiers of any serious wrongdoing.

After the incident became public in the Fall of 1969, a friendly biographical
account says, Powell sided with the American Division General during the
court martial proceedings against Calley. Powell has been heavily
criticized in later years for not using his position on the command staff to
prevent the massacre at the time it occurred.

Both Westmoreland and the major through whom the order was relayed
are dead, and the source said many but not all of those who had firsthand
knowledge of Powell's role are no longer living.

The source said he is a liberal Democrat who was a CIA officer for many
years before accepting a military commission from President Reagan. He
also was a military liaison to Saudi Arabia's royal family and said he was
responsible for the destruction of a satellite-bearing Russian rocket on a
launch pad in Russia, and was shot during that operation.

The source, a high-ranking retired military officer who said he had served
Presidents Nixon and Reagan, said an unexpurgated transcript of the
secret proceedings of a military tribunal that convicted Calley would reveal
Powell's role. The transcripts remain classified, he said.

Powell's role in the My Lai massacre has been the subject of many articles
over the years, but until now there has been no suggestion made that he
was responsible for ordering it. Powell was unavailable for comment, but in
an autobiography said he did not learn of the incident until two years
after it occurred.

Senior officers who were in Vietnam at the time are quietly skeptical of
[Powell's] account, Newsweek reported on Sept. 11, 1995. They point out
that word of the massacre - which did not become public until November
1969 - quickly spread through the region, and to the Americal Division's
headquarters.

The magazine, in a lengthy article, said Powell never talked to the soldier
who first reported the incident to command staff, and his claim that he
didn't know of the incident until after it became public is at odds with his
report's dismissal of rumors about the 

[CTRL] Pneumonia in Hong Kong

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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http://abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/s807327.htm
The World Health Organisation issuesglobal alert after outbreak of
pneumonia in Hong Kong
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The World Today - Friday, 14 March , 2003 12:50:27

Reporter: Tanya Nolan

JOHN HIGHFIELD: Well, the World Health Organisation says it's very
concerned about severe pneumonia being reported in a Hong Kong
hospital. It's issued a global alert after one man died and at least 16
hospital staff came down with symptoms. It's an a-typical pneumonia and
the pathogen hasn't yet been identified.

Tanya Nolan reports.

TANYA NOLAN: The most recent outbreak of this mysterious respiratory
syndrome can be traced back to a 50-year old American man who, after
travelling through China, fell ill in Vietnam in late February. Soon after his
admission to a hospital in Hanoi, 20 staff developed the flu-like symptoms.
Some developed pneumonia and some remain critically ill.

Now the ailment has spread to Hong Kong where the man was transferred.
There are reports that as many as 32 staff from at least three different
hospitals have developed the symptoms. One is in a serious condition. The
American man has died.

Dick Thompson is with the communicable diseases section at the World
Health Organisation in Geneva.

DICK THOMPSON: We're very worried about it. Until we can identify the
cause and identify how to treat it, it's something that we're going to pay a
lot of attention to.

TANYA NOLAN: Samples of the pathogen being tested in Japan and the
United States have so far revealed nothing about the cause of the
outbreak. And Mr Thompson says that could be due to several factors

DICK THOMPSON: It's possible that those samples were not in the best of
shape. It's possible that when the samples were taken, that the individuals
no longer had the pathogen in their blood, and it's also possible that this is
something we havent seen before.

TANYA NOLAN: Health authorities believe the most recent outbreak may
be linked to the 305 cases of atypical pneumonia reported by Chinese
authorities in Quandong province, in November last year.

Five people died, and there have been more reports of similar cases in
southern China in recent weeks. Alan Hampson is the deputy director of
the WHO's Collaborative Centre for Influenza in Melbourne, and he says the
highly contagious nature of pathogen means people should be alert

ALAN HAMPSON: Appropriate care should be taken when nursing people
who present with undiagnosed, atypical pneumonia of the type that has
been seen with these patients.

TANYA NOLAN: How do you rate the likelihood of this pathogen potentially
travelling to Australia?

ALAN HAMPSON: Well, we can never discount the possibility that, that
things of this nature will travel to Australia. I think the likelihood is fairly
low. I think that the probability is that this is an agent which does cause
infections, pneumonic infections of this type.

It may have changed a little bit to become more virulent, but until we get
a definite diagnosis on it, it's very hard to be definite about these things.

JOHN HIGHFIELD: Doctor Alan Hampson is deputy director of the World
Health Organisation's Collaborative Centre for Influenza which is based in
Melbourne. Tanya Nolan with him.
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[CTRL] Administration Opposes Releasing Retailer Lists

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http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAMYUVD8DD.html


Mar 13, 2003

Bush Administration Opposes Releasing Retailer Lists During Meat Recalls

By Emily Gersema
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Legislation forcing meat companies to tell consumers
which stores received possibly tainted meat would hinder meat recalls
because companies would resist sharing proprietary information, the Bush
administration says.

Elsa Murano, the Agriculture Department's undersecretary for food safety,
told a House subcommittee Wednesday the administration would oppose
the measure because it would not benefit consumers.

Companies would become less cooperative, she said, making it harder for
the department to track retailers and wholesalers that sold the recalled
meat. That would mean more people would be at risk of getting sick.

Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., said she was considering legislation in the
wake of food-poisoning outbreaks that killed nine people last year. She
said a law requiring processors to tell consumers which supermarkets sold
the meat would protect the public.

This is not about a company's bottom line, DeLauro said. This is about
the public's safety.

Consumer advocates argued that consumers need to know if stores sold
recalled meat.

If even one person took action based on having the information and
therefore avoided getting sick, it would be worth having that information
available, said Carol Tucker Foreman, head of the Consumer Federation of
America's Food Policy Institute.

The meat industry says consumers are given enough details when meat is
recalled to pick it out of their refrigerators and take it back to the store.

In a recall, the department discloses the type of meat being pulled, as well
as the day it was processed and its sell by date.

The most important thing for the consumer to know is all of the
establishment codes and the product code dates, said Janet Riley,
spokeswoman for the American Meat Institute. That's what tells them
whether they've got the product or not.

Also on Tuesday, Democratic lawmakers who have been critical of how the
department handles recalls wrote to Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman,
calling for an investigation into ConAgra Beef.

The company's Greeley, Colo., plant was linked to 42 illnesses last summer,
prompting the recall of 19 million pounds of ground beef after inspectors
found harmful E. coli bacteria in some hamburger meat. ConAgra sold the
plant to meatpacker Swift  Co. in September.

We urge USDA to fully investigate the company's conduct and consider
seeking criminal penalties against the company and any officials who acted
recklessly, the lawmakers wrote.

The letter was signed by DeLauro, Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois, Rep.
Henry Waxman of California and Reps. Marcy Kaptur and Sherrod Brown,
both of Ohio.

Alisa Harrison, a spokeswoman for Veneman, declined to comment, saying
officials were still reviewing the letter.

Chris Kricher, a spokesman for ConAgra, declined to comment on a
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[CTRL] Saudi-US Relations After Sept. 11, 2001

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http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=23713
Arab News
SAUDI ARABIA'S FIRST ENGLISH LANGUAGE DAILY

Saudi-US Relations After Sept. 11, 2001

Published on 15 March 2003

A group of intellectuals and academics attended a forum organized by
Asharq Al-Awsat, a
sister publication of Arab News, in Riyadh recently to discuss Saudi-US
relations after the Sept. 11, 2001 events from a Saudi perspective. In this,
the first of a four-part series, the Jeddah-based managing editor of the
paper, Tariq Al-Homayed, reports on what they had to say about the
political fallout.

In the first session, which was devoted to politics, the participants agreed
that there was a problem in Saudi-US cultural ties in particular. The talks
emphasized the need for the Kingdom to answer why 15 Saudis were
among the Sept. 11 hijackers, not to please the US but to increase its own
national security.

The issue of plurality in Saudi society was also raised, and there were
heated arguments about its unique features. Speakers highlighted the lack
of political awareness in some Saudi media, and of personalities who had a
negative impact on Saudi public opinion.

Dr. Turki Al-Hamad, a well-known thinker and novelist, spoke on Saudi-US
relations in a world after Sept. 11 events and how the US started reviewing
the basis of interests in its foreign relations, including its ties with Saudi
Arabia. Al-Hamad said that the US was trying to create a world of its own
design, and consequently faced problems when it came to dealing with
Saudi culture and politics.

The problem was also sociocultural, added Dr. Abdullah ibn Jaber Al-Otaibi,
professor of international politics at King Saud University in Riyadh. It was
society vs. state and not state vs. state, he explained.

According to Dr. Khaled Al-Dakheel, professor of political science at King
Saud University in Riyadh, Saudi-US relations were conducted at an official
level for seven decades, but the Sept. 11 events brought the cultural side
to the forefront of relations and made it difficult for the two countries to
reach an understanding.

The lack of a common language adds to the problem, explained Al-Dakheel.
The presence of 15 Saudis on the hijacked planes on Sept. 11 does not
mean everyone in Saudi society is a terrorist, he said.

Yes, there is a real problem, said Dr. Ziyad ibn Abdul Rahman Al-Sudairy,
a member of the Shoura Council. Saudi-US relations had moved from the
top down to the level of ordinary people, and this had exposed the lack of
knowledge on both sides.

The Americans do not know the Kingdom and we dont know many things
about the US. We look at the US only from the angle of the Middle East
situation. As a result, they have started attacking us with and without
reason. And we are doing the same, Sudairy said.

There was indeed a cultural gap, Dr. Mohammed Al-Holwa, a member of the
Shoura, agreed. When the Americans found out about their ignorance of
Saudi tribes and the nature of our society, they sent their journalists to
collect information about us, he said. What did the Kingdom do? We
dont have a single center in the Kingdom that talks about the superpower
America and introduces that country to our citizens, he explained.

Holwa disclosed that the Saudi Interior Ministry had proposed the
establishment of a center specializing in US affairs under the supervision of
King Saud University, but the proposal did not see the light of day because
of a bureaucracy that kills beautiful things.

Describing Saudi-US relations as secretive, Hussein Shobokshi, a well-known
businessman and media personality, said they were based on economic
interests, and ignored human and cultural factors.

While they attack us in their newspapers, we also attack them in our
newspaper every day, he observed.

There are differences between the two countries when it comes to what
they value, he added.

But there are also differences between the Americans and Japanese.
France opposes globalization but when a McDonalds restaurant was
attacked the French society dealt with the crime and made it clear that it
opposed extremism.

In defense of concerns in the Kingdom, Raed Al-Qarmali of the Foreign
Ministry pointed to the US status as the only superpower in the world,
which had enabled some American groups to impose their views worldwide.
At the same time, the Kingdoms geographical position and its relative
power in the Arab world had led certain popular agencies to think that
they had the power to do anything.

This led to the distortion of relations between the two countries, he
adds.

Debates at the seminar revolved around what was called Bushs faith and
how it hampers Saudi efforts to improve ties with the US as well as
diplomatic initiatives to shield Arab countries targeted by Washington.

Dr. Al-Hamad at one point interjected: We have to keep America away
from our minds and discuss the interest of our country. For how long are
we going to continue building our policies only on reaction?


[CTRL] The Voice of the Grunt

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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 DefenseWatch The Voice of the Grunt

03-12-2003

From the Editor: Impending War Brings Changes to SFTT

http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=DefenseWatch%
2edbcommand=viewoneop=tid=8rnd=644.561767578125



By Ed Offley

Within a week or two, it appears inevitable that a U.S.-British military force
numbering over 250,000 strong will breach the sand berms and airspace of
Iraq in the long- anticipated showdown with Iraq.

The operation may succeed in a matter of days or weeks, or could bog
down for months. The invasion may be a decisive strike that quickly shocks
the Iraqi military into paralysis and collapse, or it could suddenly grind to a
halt in a lethal cloud of chemical and biological agents. The attack could
realign the politics of the Middle East toward a new climate of freedom
and individual liberty never before experienced, or it could trigger a new
wave of terrorism and anti-American hatred.

No one can predict with any degree of strong confidence how events will
unfold.

What we can be certain of is that Operation Desert Spring (or whatever
the Pentagon finally names this mission) is going to be the most-covered
war in history. We at SFTT.org and DefenseWatch magazine are also
preparing for war, and we hope that you, our readers and supporters, will
be well served by our efforts.

Already, more than 500 American and foreign journalists have been
embedded with the U.S. military units deploying to Iraq, and hundreds
more are covering the rush of events in Washington, D.C., from the capitals
of Europe, and from Doha to Baghdad. Thanks to the digital computer
revolution since Gulf War I, we can anticipate news reports from the front
within hours of the events they document taking place. Because of new,
miniaturized video cameras and videophones, we are already getting a
birds- eye view from military aircraft ranging from F-16 fighters to U-2
reconnaissance aircraft.

All Americans should brace themselves for a Mount Everest-scale avalanche
of text, video and digital graphics as the war news comes hurtling out of
the Middle East via cyberspace. We at SFTT.org are reorganizing our
operation to help you keep up with the pace of events.

Over the past few weeks we have been redesigning our internet website
to accommodate the torrent of information that will be generated at the
outset of battle. Our top priority mission will be to help you sift through
the raw data and quickly achieve a balanced and informed understanding
of the events that are unfolding.

Some of our changes include:

DefenseWatch magazine at SFTT.org this week will change from a weekly
online magazine to a 24/7 web-base publication that will be updated on a
daily basis with new columns from Col. David Hackworth and our
contributing editors. Our cadre of dedicated, volunteer contributors will
apply their military and professional experiences to provide you with
informed analysis and commentary to better grasp the significance of
events.

Our daily SFTT News site will be significantly expanded to accommodate
the scores  if not more  key news stories that appear in the U.S. and
international news media each day. We have created subsites at SFTT.org
that will give you ready access to specific news and information you may
seek, including:

* A Battlefield Reports site from embedded journalists that are displayed in
a directory of the major military units involved.

* A Briefing Room site where the latest briefing, speech and press
conference transcripts and other key documents will be posted.

* A special From the Troops site where we will publish first-hand accounts
of war from those directly involved in the fighting.

* A Gunsight Video site where you will be able to find the latest video
imagery from the battlefield.

* A Commentary section providing access to a full cross-section of
editorials, columnists and news analyses from the mainstream news media.

* A section for Other Military News of importance.

We will also continue to publish news, analysis and feedback of the critical
issue of nuclear, chemical and biological defenses on our Poisoned
Battlefield site. Our other standing features, including Insider Notes from
the Pentagon, Pauls Corner and special reports, will continue to appear
as well.

And finally, we will continue to welcome your comments and responses in
our SFTT Feedback section.

We hope that at this critical moment in our nations history, you will
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[CTRL] What the Arabs See and Why They Aren't Buying It

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=23714
Arab News
SAUDI ARABIA'S FIRST ENGLISH LANGUAGE DAILY

Colin Powell and the Marketing of Uncle Sam
Afnan Hussein Fatani, Special to Arab News
Published on 15 March 2003

And they will say (on the Day of Judgment): Our Lord! Indeed we obeyed
our leaders
and our elders and they led us astray. Our Lord! Give them double the
punishment and curse them a great curse.

(The Quran: 33:66-68)

Nelson Mandela was right. The bribing, bullying, horse-trading and
warmongering we are witnessing in the world today are all because theres
a black man sitting at the helm of the United Nations. From Guinea, the
poorest and smallest country in Africa, to Bushs America, the greatest
nation, and the greatest people, on the face of the earth   no one
seems to bother what the black secretary-general of the United Nations
thinks or what he plans to do. Hes simply become inaudible and invisible.
But Mandela forgot to add another pathetic figure to his list of black
leaders who have distorted the shape of our world simply by being black.
That man is Colin Powell, the US secretary of state.

The problem with Powell started when he hired advertising executives to
improve the US image in Arab countries  indeed in the entire world. He
has been quoted as saying that a professional who once sold Uncle Bens
Rice to the nation was the perfect person to sell Uncle Sam to the world.
But this is exactly the type of false analogical thinking and superficial
reasoning that has marred Powells logic ever since he transformed from
dove to wolf-in-sheeps-skin. Just because both phrases share the same
word uncle, that doesnt mean that Ben and Sam are the same. In
fact, both products are radically in opposition. Uncle Bens Rice literally
sold itself because it was good, nutritious and healthy; Uncle Sam isnt
selling because the product is bad, unwholesome and malevolent. Powell
can no more sell his stale product than a grocery store can sell rotten
apples and tomatoes, except to the starved and dying of the world,
except to the famine-struck African peoples of Guinea, Angola and
Cameroon. There are three questions that Powell needs to ask himself: Is
it ethical to wax down his rotten produce and sell it off as nutritious and
healthy food? If health-conscious people arent buying, is it moral to shove
it down their throats? When all attempts at marketing a tainted Uncle Sam
failed, was it ethical to capitalize on his own credibility and his credentials
as a war-hero? Charlotte Beers, the advertising executive hired to improve
the US image resigned last Monday, citing the frightening gap between
who we are and how we wish to be seen  and how we are in fact seen.
That is the kind of professionalism that the world expects from America.
That is American ethics at its best.

Powells subtle method of lying has become a stable strategy used by
almost all US government officials, including of course the US president
himself. The effectiveness of this strategy lies in its sheer simplicity; one
merely falsifies truths by creatively manipulating a constant variable  a
digit, a letter, a color, a shape, a name, a date of birth or place of origin.
Powell first used the method in his PowerPoint presentation to the UN
when he tried to convince us that the rabbit shape we see in the moon
really is a live gigantic rabbit. It has now become something of a global joke
that the only established link between Al-Qaeda and Iraq is the letter q
found in both words. Notice, for example, the digital link used by Bush
when he claimed in his first speech after the tragedy of Sept. 11 that 130
Israelis had died in the twin towers when the correct number was actually
3 (out of the 3,000 Israeli employees that were supposed to have been in
the WTC at the time of the explosions). Powell found an ingenious three-
in-one link between Al-Qaeda, Iraq and Palestinians. Al-Zarqawi, he told us
at the UN, was an Al-Qaeda terrorist operating in Northern Iraq and also a
Jordanian of Palestinian origin. To make this link stick, Powell had to falsify
a few basic facts.

 First, that Al-Zarqawi is operating in the American-controlled No-fly Zone
and hence outside the jurisdiction of the Iraqi government

 Second, that he is of pure Jordanian descent from the Al-Khalaylah
tribe, one of the tribes of the Bani Hasan clan.

The question is, even if Al-Zarqawi was of Palestinian origin, does that
prove that Palestinians are terrorists? What about John Walker, the
American Taleban? Shouldnt his origins be used to link Americans to
terrorism and Al-Qaeda?

There is something nauseating about watching a once dignified and
trustworthy black war- hero having to lie, deceive and cajole just to find
favor with his rich Texan boss. Last week, we watched in utter shock as
Colin Powell promised the Arab world in an interview with the newly
launched Arab TV station, Al-Arabia, that the invasion of Iraq would be
short. Yes, we all know how short and 

[CTRL] Non-Greed-Inspired 12-Step Recovery Plan for Iraqaeda

2003-03-14 Thread Euphorian
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http://whitehouse.org/news/2003/031303.asp

Filled with hot linques

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[CTRL] Reuters AlertNet - Iraq war may halt Swedish arms sales to US -report

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[CTRL] The Rage, the Pride and the Doubt

2003-03-14 Thread Ray Boeche
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The Rage, the Pride and the Doubt

By Oriana Fallaci

The Wall Street Journal | March 13, 2003

To avoid the dilemma of whether this war should take place or not, to
overcome the reservations and the reluctance and the doubts that still
lacerate me, I often say to myself: How good if the Iraqis would get
free of Saddam Hussein by themselves. How good if they would execute
him and hang up his body by the feet as in 1945 we Italians did with
Mussolini. But it does not help. Or it helps in one way only. The
Italians, in fact, could get free of Mussolini because in 1945 the
Allies had conquered almost four-fifths of Italy. In other words,
because the Second World War had taken place. A war without which we
would have kept Mussolini (and Hitler) forever. A war during which the
allies had pitilessly bombed us and we had died like mosquitoes. The
Allies, too. At Salerno, at Anzio, at Cassino. Along the road from Rome
to Florence, then on the terrible Gothic Line. In less than two years,
45,806 dead among the Americans and 17,500 among the English, the
Canadians, the Australians, the New Zealanders, the South Africans, the
Indians, the Brazilians. And also the French who had chosen De Gaulle,
also the Italians who had chosen the Fifth or the Eighth Army. (Can
anybody guess how many cemeteries of Allied soldiers there are in
Italy? More than sixty. And the largest, the most crowded, are the
American ones. At Nettuno, 10,950 graves. At Falciani, near Florence,
5,811. Each time I pass in front of it and see that lake of crosses, I
shiver with grief and gratitude.) There was also a National Liberation
Front in Italy. A Resistance that the Allies supplied with weapons and
ammunition. As in spite of my tender age (14), I was involved in the
matter, I remember well the American plane that, braving anti-aircraft
fire, parachuted those supplies to Tuscany. To be exact, onto Mount
Giovi where one night they air-dropped commandos with the task of
activating a short-wave network named Radio Cora. Ten smiling Americans
who spoke very good Italian and who three months later were captured by
the SS, tortured, and executed with a Florentine partisan girl: Anna
Maria Enriquez-Agnoletti.
Thus, the dilemma remains.

It remains for the reasons I will try to state. And the first one is
that, contrary to the pacifists who never yell against Saddam Hussein
or Osama bin Laden and only yell against George W. Bush and Tony Blair,
(but in their Rome march they also yelled against me and raised posters
wishing that I'd blow up with the next shuttle, I'm told), I know war
very well. I know what it means to live in terror, to run under air
strikes and cannonades, to see people killed and houses destroyed, to
starve and dream of a piece of bread, to miss even a glass of drinking
water. And (which is worse) to be or to feel responsible for someone
else's death. I know it because I belong to the Second World War
generation and because, as a member of the Resistance, I was myself a
soldier. I also know it because for a good deal of my life I have been
a war correspondent. Beginning with Vietnam, I have experienced horrors
that those who see war only through TV or the movies where blood is
tomato ketchup don't even imagine. As a consequence, I hate it as the
pacifists in bad or good faith never will. I loathe it. Every book I
have written overflows with that loathing, and I cannot bear the sight
of guns. At the same time, however, I don't accept the principle, or
should I say the slogan, that All wars are unjust, illegitimate. The
war against Hitler and Mussolini and Hirohito was just, was legitimate.
The Risorgimento wars that my ancestors fought against the invaders of
Italy were just, were legitimate. And so was the war of independence
that Americans fought against Britain. So are the wars (or revolutions)
which happen to regain dignity, freedom. I do not believe in vile
acquittals, phony appeasements, easy forgiveness. Even less, in the
exploitation or the blackmail of the word Peace. When peace stands for
surrender, fear, loss of dignity and freedom, it is no longer peace.
It's suicide.
* * *

The second reason is that this war should not happen now. If just as I
wish, legitimate as I hope, it should have happened one year ago. That
is, when the ruins of the Towers were still smoking and the whole
civilized world felt American. Had it happened then, the pacifists who
never yell against Saddam or bin Laden would not today fill the squares
to anathematize the United States. Hollywood stars would not play the
role of Messiahs, and ambiguous Turkey would not cynically deny passage
to the Marines who have to reach the Northern front. Despite the
Europeans who added their voice to the voice of the Palestinians
howling Americans-got-it-good, one year ago nobody questioned that
another Pearl Harbor had been inflicted on the U.S. and that the U.S.
had all the right to respond. As a matter of fact, it should have
happened before. I 

[CTRL] Jobs Program For Iraqis

2003-03-14 Thread flw
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U.S. plan to pay government workers in Iraq
is affront to taxpayers, Libertarians say

WASHINGTON, DC -- A plan to put one out of every 10 Iraqis on the U.S.
government's payroll is a case of nation-building gone haywire,
Libertarians say.

Hold onto your wallets, because the U.S. government is going on a
hiring binge -- in Iraq, said Geoffrey Neale, chairman of the
Libertarian Party. If George Bush has his way, Iraqis will soon be
free from Saddam Hussein but hopelessly dependent on Uncle Sam.

Part of the U.S. government's blueprint for occupying and rebuilding
Iraq, unveiled at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing this
week, is paying the salaries of at least 2 million government workers,
including soldiers, teachers, police officers, hospital workers and
bureaucrats.  The hope is that making the Iraqis accountable to the
U.S. would help deliver a measure of normalcy and stability after
the fall of dictator Saddam Hussein.

In a nation of 23 million people, that means roughly one out of every
10 Iraqis would be getting a paycheck from the U.S. taxpayer, Neale
observed.

But even Americans who support the war probably had no intention of
creating a massive warfare-to-work program overseas, Libertarians note.

People who accused Bill Clinton of nation-building for handing out
food in Somalia should be appalled that Bush is handing out 2 million
jobs in Iraq, he said. It's bad enough when politicians put
Americans on the dole with make-work programs, but creating massive
workfare programs halfway around the world is nation-building gone
haywire.

One question Americans should ask is where such programs will end,
Neale said.

If providing jobs for Iraqis is America's responsibility, why not
provide them unemployment benefits, Social Security checks, health
insurance, paid vacations, and 401-k retirement plans? he asked.

And if Bush goes to war against other 'axis of evil' states, could
Americans soon be paying the salaries of millions of Iranians and North
Koreans?

Those questions are no more absurd than the notion of a U.S.
president hanging up 'help wanted' signs in Iraq and forcing Americans
to sign their paychecks.

Americans should also consider the possibility that the Iraqi jobs
initiative will be just another welfare program in disguise, Neale
said.

When the U.S. government briefly shut down during a Congressional
budget dispute in 1995, 98 percent of the employees in some agencies
were deemed 'non-essential' and told not to bother coming to work, he
noted.

If that percentage holds true in Iraq, 1,960,000 of the 2 million
Iraqis will be non-essential government workers. It's hard to think of
anything more outrageous than forcing hard-working Americans to pay
1,960,000 Iraqis not to work.

If Bush wants to promote stability in Iraq, Libertarians have a better
solution, Neale said: Don't destabilize it with a bombing campaign in
the first place.

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[CTRL] Ritual Satanic Abuse - Possible Masonic Influences

2003-03-14 Thread Smart News
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"I have written about ritual abuse allegations, two of which contain sections on the deviant Masonic accounts that I have heard. In essence, no other philanthropic group shows up in so many accounts as does Freemasonry."


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compiled from information and quotes from the journal article "Deviant Scriptualism and Ritual Satanic Abuse Part Two: Possible Masonic, Mormon, Magick, and Pagan Influences,"by professor Stephen A. Kent, Department of Sociology, University of Alberta, Edmonton (Canada). His article was originally published by Religion (1993) 23, 355-367, c 1993 Academic press Limited. At the end of this article, further information about the author and journal will follow this article. Warning: this article contains descriptions of rituals, please read with caution."...This study compares portions of people's accounts (using interviews and diaries from several alleged survivors), with doctrinal precedents for satanic ritual souse in deviant interpretations of Masonic, Mormon, Magick and Pagan traditions... Just as parts of the Bible may provide direct inspiration or justification for satanic worshipers, so too may some of these same parts provide additional sanctification of satanic worship through aberrant Freemasonry." (Page 355) 

" at least five survivors from allegedly three separate groups have indicated that male ritual abusers whom they remember were also Masons" 

(S.M.A.R.T. note: other studies have shown incidences of Masons allegedly ritually abusing children as high as 33 percent of the total number of reported cases of ritual abuse, see S.M.A.R.T. Issue #1)."One person specifically recalls a satanic catechism session that seemingly took place in a Masonic lodge." (Page 355)

The article goes on to discuss the word "Jahbulon," which is used in the 13th and 17th degrees of the Scottish rite. Masons agree this word is compounded of the names of three deities, the middle word Ba'al, and the original Masons that devised the word in the 1830's knew the word Ba'al 'was the devil'. "...with this mythological interpretation now in place, one easily could see how deviant Freemasons could either sanctify practices involving child-sacrifice to Ba'al or Molech or perhaps could be inspired to engage in them." (Page 356)

Freemasonry believes that King Solomon directed the Masons in the construction of their temple. In the Biblical passage 1 Kings 11: 4-8, King Solomon "turned to the worship of Ashtoreth and Molech when he reached old age." (Page 356) In the Bible, these gods are seen as evil."If, however, Masonic deviants wanted to find an allusion to Satan in their rituals, then they would be able to do so in the reference made in the third degree ritual to 'that bright morning star' which, biblically, was "Lucifer, son of the morning.' (Isaiah 14:12) (page 356)"...Masons frequently are willing to rent their lodges to appropriate individuals or organizations, and few if any questions would he asked about a fellow 'brother' who used the facilities (along with a few ëassociates') from time to tine. Satanic rituals could occur in Masonic lodges (as at least some survivors suggest in their stories) without respectable members knowing anything about them." (Page 357)

S.M.A.R.T. editor's note: I remember several (at least three or four rooms and one very large room, with hundreds of people) rooms in the basement of the Masonic lodge allegedly used for torture, terrifying, raping, brainwashing and murder. Most of these rooms could not be used for anything else."The Masonic critic, Martin Short, observed that "(t)he works of Albert Pike... and Aleister Crowley show that men preoccupied with paganism, the devil, and the occult are attracted to Masonry, if only (as in Crowley's case) on the way to somewhere else." (Page 357) 

Kent's article provides support for charges that Crowley was a Satanist, including his misogyny, his belief in sexual magick, his use of vaginal fluids, "...he provided instructions about worshipping a god of War and Vengeance, Ra-Hoor-Khuit ... (King, 1977, p.135). He indicated that (t)he best blood (for use in worship) is of the noon, monthly; then the fresh blood of a child Crowley recorded that devotees were to "(s)acrifice cattle big and little; after a child' (Crowley, 1972 p. 311)" (page 357). An evil spirit named Mercury informed Crowley and his magickal partner, Victor Neuberg, "'that the supreme act of sexual magic involved the rape, ritual murder, and dissection into nine pieces of the body of a young girl. The resulting chunks of flesh were to be offered as sacrifices to the immortal gods'" (King, 1977, p. 85) (page 358)Louise (a pseudonym), whose father was a Mason, remembers at age 3, "being sexually assaulted by a man in a crimson robe that her father brought to her. She also recalls an incident where she was placed on top of a white set of three steps . . . and sexually 

[CTRL] Blue House Case - More on the Masons

2003-03-14 Thread Smart News
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this has descriptions of rituals - may be heavy for survivors 

"He alleges that, most of the people involved in the ritual abuse cases were Masons."

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Rick Doninger - Blue House Case
Another speaker at the conference was Rick Doninger. Rick was a child advocate on the "Blue House Case" in Evansville, In. He has done extensive research in the field of Satanic Ritual Abuse. Warning: this article may be triggering

During the speech Rick talked about the famous "Blue House" case in Vanderburg County (Evansville), Indiana in 1990, where several children were taken out of school and allegedly (the allegedly is mine) ritually abused. Even though there was a great deal of evidence, the case never even made it to a grand jury. The attorney that attempted to bring the case to trial was fighting a lot of political power. He once told his son that he had been threatened. About 10 years ago, Rick's wife had been in "Sexual Child Abuse Rescue" (in Evansville). He mentioned that "justice was not something seen very often" and the "offenders were in a revolving door system" 

They were starting to see multiple victim cases. They eye witnessed through binoculars and heard children's accounts of what may have been sadistic pornography. A woman from "children of the Underground" helped a child named Sarah Jane Wannamaker and her mother escape to Atlanta to escape the custody of her father. Sarah had made specific and detailed allegations of child abuse. When the woman interviewed the child, the child disclosed descriptions of ritualistic Satanic abuse, including murders, cannibalism, praying to the devil, and a threat to cut her in half. The woman mentioned that his town (Evansville) was allegedly saturated by intergenerational Satanists.

Rick helped a lot of children at that tine. "Satanic ritual abuse was going on all over the country." "At that tine, 1,000 families were on the run from this judicial system." He mentioned that nothing legal was being done in the justice system. He alleges that, most of the people involved in the ritual abuse cases were Masons.

School teachers and school principals were taking children to the "Blue House. The principals and the investigators were from the same Masonic lodge. After the TV show (the "Blue House" story was on national TV), "we began to see it was all around us." During the speech, Rick showed a map of Indiana with red dots. Each red dot represented an alleged incident of ritual abuse. The red dots were all over the state. In the southwest section there were lots of red dots. The Masonic lodge is strong in the southwest corner, also.

Sarah Jane mentioned that they film all their rituals. They tell the children that if they tell they'll show all the pictures. She described an alleged sacrificial murder of a child (taking out the babies' ribs) and the principal cutting her between the legs. Sarah had MPD (DID), and she switched while she talked.

She alleged the following: She described 20 adults in robes and hoods, mostly in blue, three in black. She drew Egyptian symbols, similar to the Masonic aspects in the big buildings downtown (Evansville). They kept babies' hearts in jars in the cabinets at school. Every act done to the children was recorded on scrolls. She would drug her mother with something given to her by the ritualists. She put it in her ice tea. Then they'd walk into her house and take her.

The woman that investigated the case was high up in Eastern Star and her husband was State Recorder for the Masons. Rick mentioned that "the power structure allegedly allows it (the abuse), and in most cases is part of it." He also said, "the truth will make you strong... and you'll overcome hard tines and you'll overcome your memories." He helped write a chapter in "The Egyptian-Masonic Connection" available from Followers of Jesus Christ Ministries.

He spent 3 months in jail of a six-month sentence for helping Sarah Jane escape her father. He was not allowed to present any information about the abuse. He mentioned, "there are no boundaries here in this stuff, some of it is done in the name of God, they worship Satan in the name of God." He described many religious sects involved in SRA.


Other things he heard about were: victims receiving electrical shocks when seeing pictures, so they would call then the wrong names, reversing bad and good putting children's hands under hot water for long periods of time, and saying it was cold to them. Survivors have told him, (we) learned not to trust anyone, not even ourselves," "we didn't know right from wrong," we had no conscience, we were forced to look in chests with dead skinned animals, forced to eat their own throw up if they got sick eating sacrificed animals.
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[CTRL] Possible connections between Masonry and Satanism

2003-03-14 Thread Smart News
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this may be heavy for survivors

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Research Study
"Understanding Ritual Abuse" was a study done of 33 ritual abuse survivors, from 13 different states. It was written by Caren Cook and is available through the Ritual Abuse Project, 431 Auburn Blvd., Suite 215, Sacramento, Ca. 95841. (This address no longer works.)

On Page 19 of the study, survivors mentioned two primary organizations that their perpetrators belonged to, the Masons (27 %) and the Knights of Columbus (9 %). Other groups mentioned by survivors were the Rosicrucians, Eastern Star, the Shriners, etc. No question was asked in the study whether the organizations were directly involved in the abuse.

In addition to the study there are two page information sheets available for distribution (copies can be made). The study covers the topics of healing, memory, MPD (now DID -Dissociative Identity Disorder), specific abuse, validation and telling about the abuse, as well as other topics.

Research Article

David Carrico is the author of a variety of books and pamphlets that allege many connections between Freemasonry and Satanism. The pamphlets include : "Christian Worker's Handbook, The Guide for Ministry to Masons " by David and Donna Carrico, "Freemasonry", the books include : "The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection ~ ''The Golden Dawn - A Graphic Expose'' and ''The Pentagram, Freemasonry and the Goat". 

WARNING: This article may have triggering information in it, including graphic descriptions of rituals. Please take adequate precautions. All accusations are alleged.

The following information is from the book, "The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection"

" The book, "The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection" begins by showing how the mass murderer David Berkowitz 'Son of Sam' was allegedly a member of a Satanic cult strongly influenced by the writings of Eliphas Levi and Aleister Crowley, both high ranking Masons.

Nimrod, son of Noah, helped build the Tower of Babel. He is considered by the Masons as great because he tried to establish a "New World Order" and he was called the "first Grand Master."

The Mystery Religion of the Masons was originated in Ancient Babylon. This religion included occult symbols, ritual symbols, occult paraphernalia and candles. Many of the days held sacred by the Mystery Religions, according to Albert Pike (a 33rd degree Mason), are the same ones used by the Satanists for modern rituals (according to Satanic calendars). Some of the God's pictures taken from the Masonic History Book have Satanic or evil Biblical connections, including Ashtoreth, Dagon, Baal (children were sacrificed to Baal), and the Satanic Goat of Mendes.

In the "Oath of Nimrod" (1st degree), the revealing of any Masonic secrets is the loss of the revealer's life. Several Masons discuss the connection between the mystery religions and the Masons. These religions included human sacrifice.

Freemason J. S. M. Ward claims that Freemasonry is a descendent of the Adonis cult. This cult allegedly had a custom of tying people to trees and castrating them and then sometimes stabbing them. This book was distributed by the Masonic Supply Company.

Aleister Crowley was a 33 degree Mason and is considered by some the father of Modern Satanism. He wanted to be called "The Beast 666". He was expelled from Italy due to accusations of his disciples sacrificing human babies in occult rituals. Other rituals included sex with and the murder of animals. Crowley was a very high ranking Mason. Crowley's followers today are members of O.T.O. - Ordo Templi Orientis. Crowley himself was recruited to O. T. O. by another Mason, Theodor Reuss.

Crowley wrote about Egyptian Gods and was introduced to the organization "Golden Dawn" by MacGregor Mathers, who was believed to be influenced by ancient Egyptian customs. Mason Manly P. Hall wrote a book called "Freemasonry of the Ancient Egyptians". In "Freemasonry and the Egyptian Gods" by Freemason J.S.M. Ward, the story of Osiris includes mutilation, murder and necrophilia. Candidates for Master Mason (3rd degree) play the part of Hiram Abiff, are in a way playing the role of Osiris the Egyptian God. Manly Hall, 33 degree Mason considers the Egyptian "Book of the Dead" to be "dominated by a spirit of transcendental magic" (pg. 57). The Egyptian Book of the Dead includes rituals of drinking blood, cannibalism, torture, killing animals, dismemberment and ritual fires.

I want to thank David Carrico for his permission to use facts from his books in this newsletter. In his book, "The Pentagram, Freemasonry and the Goat", he alleges a connection between Masonic symbols and Satanism. Ritual Abuse survivors should be careful while reading these books. Many of the symbols may be triggering.


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[CTRL] Male sexual abuse, NJ clergy abuse, cleryg abuse media reports

2003-03-14 Thread Smart News
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this may be heavy for survivors

Book Review - Betrayed as Boys: Psychodynamic Treatment of Sexually Abused Men by Richard B Gartner - Guilford Press, New York, NY, 1999. Reviewed by Eric Medcalf, BA (Hons); Cert.Appl.Soc.Stud. (Aberdeen); C.Q.S.W.; Dip. Psychother. (Sheffield); MNZAC. Psychotherapist and Supervisor in Private Practice, Wellington, New Zealand. When a boy is sexually abused he suffers an assault on his body, his developing personality and on his manhood. Our socialisation tells us that men are not supposed to be victims. We are meant to be in control of our environment. To be abused sexually by an adult man, or a woman is a challenge to the way we see ourselves and a betrayal of the trust that is necessary for healthy development. The consequences are distortions of inter- and intra-personal functioning, dissociative patterns, misplaced aggression and, often, repeated failure to engage in satisfying relationships with others." http://human-nature.com/nibbs/03/gartner.html

New Jersey - Camden Diocese agrees to settle sex abuse lawsuit for $880,000 3/14/03 By Mary Jo Patterson Star-Ledger Staff "After spending nine years fighting claims that some of its priests had sexually abused children, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Camden announced yesterday that it would pay 23 plaintiffs $880,000 to end the case. In their lawsuit, the plaintiffs accused 15 priests and numerous church officials of tolerating and hiding widespread child sex abuse within the diocese between 1961 and 1985." http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1047626043190650.xml

Sexual Abuse  Misconduct in the Catholic Church Selected Cases from Media Reports Through 2002 http://www.catholicsforchoice.org/whatsnew.htm
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Re: [CTRL] Washington or Wilson?

2003-03-14 Thread Paul Meares
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Ray Boeche wrote:

 I'm sure Britain, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland and the other 80+
 nations who are in support of our actions appreciate your
 consideration of them as non-entities.

The State is the great fictitious entity by which everyone expects
to live at the expense of everyone else. -- Frederic Bastiat

Every body politic on this planet is a corporation, an artificial entity, a
fiction at law. They only exist in your mind. When you write of Britain,
Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland and the other 80+ so-called nations
you're referring to non-entities.  At most, you're referring to a number of
hucksters who masquerade around styling themselves as government
and a multitude of suckers who support them.

As Frederick Mann put it:

In his book Cat's Cradle, Kurt Vonnegut coined the word granfalloon
to describe abstract concepts like nation, state, country, government,
society, IBM, etc. He wrote, To discover the substance of a granfalloon,
just prick a hole in a toy balloon. In his book The Incredible Secret Money
Machine, Don Lancaster explains:

A granfalloon is any large bureaucratic figment of people's imagination.
For instance, there's really no such thing as the Feds or General Veeblefeltzer
Corporation. There are a bunch of people out there that relate to each other,
and there's some structures, and some paper. In fact, there's lots and lots of
paper. The people sit in the structures and pass paper back and forth to each
other and charge you to do so.

All these people, structures, and paper are real. But nowhere can you point to
the larger concept of government or corporation and say, There it is,
kiddies! The monolithic, big they is all in your mind.

A granfalloon is the lumping together of many diverse elements into an
abstract collection, and to then think and speak as if the abstract collection
is one single entity capable of performing actions. This phenomenon leads
people to say things like the government runs the country. I hope you realize
(or will soon) just how absurd the previous sentence is.

Government Consists of Individual Human Beings

The human brain is an abstracting device. We might call the first level of
abstraction the concrete abstract. Consider the concept table. The concept
or word corresponds to and represents a physical object table. However, the
concept table is more general than the object table - because the concept
table can be applied to any of a large number of objects with flat surfaces
and (usually) four legs; whereas the physical object table is one specific
object.

Our next level of abstraction we might call the collective abstract - for
example, furniture. It's very useful to lump together a number of diverse but
related objects and use the abstract word or concept furniture to represent
all of them. It makes thinking and communicating more efficient. Instead of
saying, Clean the chairs, the tables, the shelves, the mirrors, the cupboards,
etc., you can simply say, Clean the furniture. It's much more efficient. But
with the increase in efficiency comes a potential lack of distinction...

Government can be described as a collection of individuals, pieces of paper,
buildings, weaponry, etc. Let's take a look at what becomes possible when we
think in terms of individual human beings, instead of the monolithic collective
abstract government - a two-sentence refutation of all the arguments for
government:
Government consists of individual human beings - or people.
When people say government is necessary to do X (whatever), or only
government can do X, or government must do for people what they can't do for
themselves - what they're really saying is: people are necessary to do X, or
only people can do X, or people must do for people what they can't do for
themselves. http://buildfreedom.com/tl/tl07b.shtml

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[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Serbs Mourn Slain Premier; Police Arrest 56 Suspects

2003-03-14 Thread Tenor Love
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Serbs Mourn Slain Premier; Police Arrest 56 Suspects

March 14, 2003
By DANIEL SIMPSON






BELGRADE, Serbia, March 13 - Serbs struggled today to
absorb the impact of the assassination of their reformist
prime minister, Zoran Djindjic, urging Western governments
to help them rebuild even as Western officials urged Serbia
not to yield to the crime and nationalism that dominated
the country for a decade.

A stunned Serbian government declared a state of emergency
on Wednesday and halted road, rail and air traffic from
Belgrade. The police said today they had arrested 56
people, including 8 members of the underworld gang blamed
for the killing of Mr. Djindjic, who was instrumental in
overthrowing Slobodan Milosevic and later sent him to face
the United Nations war crimes tribunal in The Hague.

But the gang's leaders, including Milorad Lukovic, a former
commander of Milosevic-era special forces who helped Mr.
Djindjic take power, remained at large.

Mr. Djindjic, who sought to transform his country from an
international pariah into a candidate for European Union
membership, was shot twice in the chest outside his office
on Wednesday.

We will arrest all those who planned this and those who
resist we will liquidate, said the Serbian interior
minister, Dusan Mihajlovic. The police said the
assassination was carried out by three men, one of whom
fired at the prime minister with a rifle from the second
story of a nearby building. Officials did not say whether
any of these individuals had been detained.

Among those questioned today were the former head of Mr.
Milosevic's internal security network, Jovica Stanisic, and
Franko Simatovic, who commanded paramilitary forces that
swept through Croatia and Bosnia in the 1990's.

Mr. Stanisic, Mr. Milosevic's security chief for much of
his 13 years in power, is widely seen as among those who
know most about Mr. Milosevic's role in organizing and
supporting Serbian forces and militias active in Croatia
and Bosnia in the 1990's.

Neither man was formally arrested, merely summoned for
informative talks, said Nebojsa Covic, one of five deputy
prime ministers now in charge until Mr. Djindjic's
Democratic Party elects a new leader.

Hundreds of people lined up this afternoon to sign a book
of condolences outside the building where Mr. Djindjic
worked, in the shadow of two bombed-out army tower blocks
destroyed by NATO warplanes in 1999. The prime minister
will be buried on Saturday.

He was our John F. Kennedy! Tough when needed, but truly
honest and righteous, said Vesna Gojkovic, 37, as she lit
candles next to police officers clutching rifles. I don't
just want his murderers to be caught. They should also be
sentenced to death for killing a man who finally brought us
hope and optimism.

After six centuries of occupation by the Ottoman Empire,
the loss of one-third of the adult male population in World
War I and the slaughter of probably hundreds of thousands
in concentration camps during World War II, many Serbs feel
cursed as victims of history.

But the outside world lost sympathy when Mr. Milosevic
tapped into this sense of suffering to justify his bloody
attempt to put Yugoslavia under a Serbian yoke when its
republics declared independence as the cold war ended.

Serbia's leaders are now under strong international
pressure to arrest individuals who committed the worst
atrocities during the Balkan wars of the 1990's. But to do
so they have to confront the Milosevic-era holdovers in the
security forces who have close connections with criminal
networks.

Under strict orders from Western governments to extradite
the most prominent suspects, including the Bosnian Serb
commander during the war, Gen. Ratko Mladic, who is accused
of genocide, Mr. Djindjic was trying to buy time by going
after the underworld figures who did much of Mr.
Milosevic's dirty work.

Misha Glenny, a journalist and historian of the Balkans who
once described the Serbian people as marinating in their
own self-pity, said it was essential that international
officials now recognize the dangers of forcing the
politicians they trust most into a corner.

The people already sent to The Hague, including Milosevic,
are there because of Djindjic, he said. Now he is dead.
And he may be dead because he was trying to comply with an
American deadline to hand over Mladic before June.

Senior European politicians visited Belgrade today to pay
tribute to Mr. Djindjic, who was favored by Western leaders
even while he was still in opposition. Members of the
European Parliament stood for a minute's silence, while
other international officials urged Serbia to continue
reform.

But Serbian leaders stressed that this would be difficult
if they were put under greater pressure to confront members
of the Milosevic-era security services without rewards for
compliance.

It's rather ironic to hear foreign officials eulogizing
Zoran Djindjic 

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House Acts to Limit Malpractice Awards

March 14, 2003
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG






WASHINGTON, March 13 - The House passed legislation today
imposing a $250,000 limit on jury awards for pain and
suffering in medical malpractice cases, arguing that
frivolous lawsuits are driving medical liability premiums
out of control and forcing doctors out of business.

The vote of 229 to 196 with one member voting present, was
an important victory for President Bush, who has made
overhauling the nation's medical liability laws a
centerpiece of his domestic agenda.

Today's House vote, Mr. Bush said, is an important step
toward creating a liability system that fairly compensates
those who are truly harmed, punishes egregious misconduct
without driving good doctors out of medicine and improves
access to quality affordable health care by reducing health
care costs.

The vote was also a crucial victory for doctors, insurance
companies, the pharmaceutical industry and business groups,
which had lobbied heavily for it. By today, those groups
were so confident the measure would pass that the American
Insurance Association, an industry trade group, put out a
press release lauding the vote hours before it was taken.

Now the measure moves to the Senate, where it faces an
uncertain future. Senator Bill Frist, the majority leader,
has vowed to take up medical malpractice legislation this
month, and at least one influential Democratic senator,
Dianne Feinstein of California, strongly supports revamping
the liability laws.

But several prominent Senate Republicans have said that any
malpractice legislation would have to include an exception
for egregious cases, like the one involving Jésica
Santillán, the 17-year-old who died after transplant
surgeons gave her a heart and lungs of the wrong blood
type.

And backers of the House bill are acutely aware that
Republicans hold only 51 votes in the Senate, nine short of
the number to break a filibuster.

We're going to have to find nine Democrats, said
Representative James C. Greenwood, Republican of
Pennsylvania, the chief sponsor of the House bill. But, he
added, I think we have the best chance we've ever had, and
we have a president who is very keen to get this done.

So keen, in fact, that on Wednesday Mr. Bush invited about
a dozen undecided lawmakers to the White House to urge them
to support the bill.

At the time, Republican leaders counted 220 votes in their
camp. Representative Billy Tauzin, the Louisiana Republican
who shepherded the measure on the House floor, said today
that Mr. Bush was instrumental in bringing the total to
229. Sixteen Democrats voted with 213 Republicans to ensure
the measure's passage, while 9 Republicans voted against
the bill. Voting present was Representative Spencer Bachus,
Republican of Alabama.

The president was very persuasive, Mr. Tauzin said. He
basically made the case for it and urged them to consider
the importance of for the nation's good. This was a
national thing that he was very invested in personally.

Changing medical malpractice law has long been high on the
Republican agenda. But the issue has gained national
attention this year, in part because President Bush has
taken a strong stand, and in part because doctors around
the country have engaged in highly publicized walkouts and
rallies to protest high insurance costs.

The bill the House passed today does not limit jury awards
for medical and funeral expenses. But the caps it imposes
on pain and suffering damages apply not only to lawsuits
filed against doctors, but also to those filed against
insurers, pharmaceutical companies and medical devices - a
provision that Representative Henry A. Waxman, Democrat of
California, called another reward that Republicans are
giving to the pharmaceutical industry.

Democrats, adopting the argument of trial lawyers and
consumer groups, say the House bill will unfairly prevent
innocent victims of medical malpractice from seeking legal
recourse. They also argue that there is no evidence the
bill will actually reduce liability premiums.

We're voting on a bill that overrides state law and
undercuts compensation for victims of medical malpractice,
yet we don't know whether medical malpractice premiums will
come down, said Representative Sherrod Brown, Democrat of
Ohio.

Mr. Brown added: We're supposed to take it on faith, trust
the insurance companies that they will pass along the
savings. We can't trust patients, we can't trust juries, we
can't trust lawyers, but we can trust the insurance
companies?

At times, today's debate seemed like a face-off between
victims. Democrats showed pictures of victims of medical
malpractice, while Republicans talked about what
Representative Tauzin calls the hidden victims and cast
the debate as one over access to medical care.

What