[CTRL] [Fwd: Fwd: [InTheShadows] Protesters turn tables on city's securitycameras]

1999-09-24 Thread Bill

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 Subject: [InTheShadows] Protesters turn tables on city's security cameras
 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:57:48 -0600
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 From the Boston Globe,
 http://www.boston.com/dailynews/266/region/Protesters_turn_tables_on_city:.s

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 Protesters turn tables on city's security cameras
 By Tom Hays, Associated Press, 09/23/99 13:41
 NEW YORK (AP) Big Brother, whether he likes or not, is watching Bill Brown.

 In the subway, parks and dark corners where government and businesses point
 security cameras around Manhattan, Brown and his cohorts pop up like
 annoying Little Brothers with props: crudely drawn placards cryptically
 quoting Orwell ''We will meet in a place where there is no darkness'' and a
 boom box sounding mock emergency broadcasts.

 ''America is now under martial law,'' one broadcast warns. ''Shut up. Be
 happy. Obey all orders. Relax. Everything is done for you.''

 Part performance art, part political protest, Brown's theatrics are the
 work
 of what he calls the Surveillance Camera Players.

 SCP is composed of about two dozen self-described anarchists. According to
 their manifesto, members view hidden cameras as ''a tool of social control.
 ... The group intends to explode the myth that only those who are doing
 something wrong fear surveillance cameras.''

 Brown, 40, is a media-friendly, chain-smoking subversive with a sense of
 humor, a former literature professor who now gets by as a legal proofreader
 on a graveyard shift. He views Mayor Rudolph Giuliani as a ''mean bastard''
 who has turned City Hall into his own Ministry of Love, manipulating the
 masses under the banner of ''public safety.''

 The native New Yorker founded SCP in 1996 in response to the proliferation
 of video surveillance around the city.

 ''It's hard not to view it all as a conspiracy,'' he said.

 SCP's early guerrilla productions mainly performed in subways until broken
 up by police included rapid-fire, dumbed-down versions of ''1984,''
 ''Waiting for Godot'' and ''One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.'' Since then,
 the group has been a regular feature on an anarchist Website
 www.panix.com/~notbored gotten international media coverage and started
 writing its own plays.

 ''It began as a few people fooling around,'' Brown said. ''Now, we're a
 serious group.''

 The SCP has had no trouble being watched: A 1998 survey by the New York
 Civil Liberties Union found more than 2,300 surveillance cameras trained on
 public spaces in Manhattan. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
 alone reportedly operates more than 1,200 cameras throughout airports,
 bridges, tunnels and terminals, most monitored from a control room in the
 World Trade Center.

 The group's latest stage is popular Washington Square Park, a notorious
 drug-dealing spot in the heart of Greenwich Village where police have
 installed high-tech, remote-control cameras designed to look like ordinary
 street lamps. Zoom lenses feed monitors watched by police officers in a
 mobile command center at the park's south end.

 On a recent Saturday, the officers were treated to the premiere of
 ''Headline News.'' The performance, a send-up of a newscast, included Brown
 slowly banging a drum while other players silently flashed placards showing
 a NATO bomb and titled ''World News,'' an assault rifle ''National News''
 and a horned-and-fanged Giuliani ''Local News.''

 Passersby were handed fliers warning, ''You are being watched. ... Not only
 can you and your movements be tracked wherever you are in this open-air
 prison, but every one of your facial expressions is visible too.''

 The mayor and police officials deny any sinister motives. They have
 defended
 the cameras' use in housing projects and other areas, touting them as an
 effective and popular crime-fighting tool. Besides, Police Commissioner
 Howard Safir has argued, ''You have no right to privacy in a public
 place.''

 In an interview, Brown disagreed. Rampant video surveillance, he argued,
 infringes on a right New Yorkers hold dear: anonymity.

 ''We're in a place where people want to blend in,'' he said. ''It runs
 against the very texture of New York. ... The society I would like is where
 people police themselves, not where people police us by increasingly
 impersonal means.''

 Asked about a magazine article describing him as ''mildly paranoid,'' Brown
 set the record straight.

 ''I'm VERY paranoid,'' he said.

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1999-09-24 Thread Dave

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AP ==   Thursday September 23 6:24 AM ET

School of the Americas Funds Renewed

   Full Coverage
 International Human Rights

   By DAVID PACE Associated Press Writer

   WASHINGTON (AP) - House and Senate negotiators have restored funding
   for the School of the Americas, the controversial Army school in
   Georgia that the House moved last summer to shut down.

   Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga., said House conferees on the fiscal 2000
   foreign operations spending bill agreed Wednesday to accept the
   Senate's position that provided $2 million in the State Department
   budget to pay the expenses of Latin American soldiers who attend the
   school at Fort Benning.

   The vote won't become final until the conference on the entire bill is
   concluded, but Kingston, one of the House conferees, said the section
   covering funding for the school has been closed and cannot be
   reopened.

   ``The School of the Americas is in there,'' he said. ``It's survived
   another year.''

   The House voted 230-197 last summer to eliminate the $2 million in
   training funds. It marked the first time in five House votes since
   1993 that the lawmakers have gone on record in opposition to the
   school.

   The school has been the target of a decade-long campaign by religious
   activists upset that some of its graduates were linked to the 1989
   murders of six Jesuit priests and two women in El Salvador.

   Father Roy Bourgeois, the Maryknoll priest who has spearheaded the
   campaign against the school, said the conference committee action
   Wednesday won't slow the campaign.

   ``We are not going away,'' he said. ``We're going to keep coming back
   to Washington and to the main gate of Fort Benning in greater and
   greater numbers every year until that school is shut down.''

   The House conferees voted 8-7 to recede to the Senate position.

   Kingston said the House agreed to restore the funding because members
   of the foreign operations spending panel did not want to lose
   jurisdiction over the school, which also receives money from the
   Defense Department budget.

   Kingston said House conferees felt that the Pentagon would find a way
   to continue operating the school, even if the $2 million in training
   funds had been eliminated.

   The $2 million represents about half the school's annual budget. The
   rest comes out of the Pentagon budget, which also pays the salaries of
   the military officers who serve as instructors. Congressional
   opponents of the school estimate it costs the taxpayers $20 million a
   year.

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Re: [CTRL] Ankle Deep in the Big Muddy

1999-09-24 Thread Dave

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Contragate revisited..   CIA/cocaine connections

see:
http://www.copvcia.com
http://madcowprod.com/
 http://www.dcia.com/do-drugs.html
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Stop the war on PEOPLE, decriminalize drugs and take away the profit center
for the covert criminals behind the MAJOR drug trafficking.


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Recently, the United States military lost a plane in the skies over
Colombia.  According to Pentagon sources, this plane was not shot down, nor
was it on any kind of mission that involved the civil war in Colombia.
These sources claim, with the backing of General McCafferty--U.S. drug
"czar", that the mission was solely related to drug production and the
so-called war on that production.  In almost the same breath, however,
McCafferty called for a billion dollars (yes $1,000,000,000) in military
aid to fight the drug war and the Marxist revolutionaries (FARC -Fuerzas
Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia and ELN-Ejercito de Liberacion
Nacional)in the region.  Now, I don't know about you, but one can't have it
both ways: either the United States is fighting against the leftist forces
in the region or they are not.  My reading of the situation goes with the
former.  That is, they are and intend to do so until these forces are
defeated.  Of course, the likelihood of such a defeat is remote, even
should full scale U. S. military involvement eventually occur.
This is not out of the question.  Indeed, the United States let it be
known during the week of July 26, 1999, that it has "a couple hundred"
troops in Colombia training elite battalions whose job will be to sever the
ties between the coca and opium farmers and the revolutionary forces.  Of
course, as any one with a basic knowledge of prior Pentagon training
missions in other parts of the world is aware, these trainers often
participate in military missions and may even denote an even greater U.S.
involvement in the future.
In order to understand what exactly the Pentagon means in describing these
battalions' mission, it is essential to examine the relationship between
the peasant coca and opium farmers and the revolutionary organizations.  To
understand this relationship, it is first necessary to understand the role
drug production plays in the economy of Colombia. The peasants have two
basic choices in today's Colombia--to go to the big cities and become
beggars and prostitutes or farm the land. If they choose the latter, they
till the land and plant crops such as corn or plantains. Since these areas
were never developed, there are no transportation routes. Only by using the
rivers and crossing hundreds of miles overland can the crop reach Bogota or
other markets. By the time it gets there, the crop is unsaleable or has
become so costly that the profit is practically lost. There is only one
alternative open to the peasant farmer  who wishes to subsist : growing
coca leaves and, more recently, opium plants. Transportation costs for
these crops is provided by the drug lords, who move incredible amounts of
these products with the consent of high placed government leaders and the
armed protection of the Colombian military and paramilitary forces funded
by large landowners and drug lords.
The FARC and ELN guerrilla forces operate in the coca and opium
growing regions.  Indeed, they literally administer these regions.  Like
various parts of southern Vietnam that were in the control of the NLF, the
residents of the region consider the revolutionary forces as their
government and support their administration.  In order to pay the cost of
running schools, health care centers, police forces, and other such
infrastructural apparatus, the FARC and ELN forces tax the drug trafficking
operations--farmers and those involved in the product's transportation and
refinement.  Although it is their preference not to do support the
dependency of the farming population on drug production, the reality is
that this is where the money is in rural Colombia.
This is where the United States comes in, once again.  Most of these drugs
are shipped to the streets of our country.  This does not happen without
the complicity of government and law enforcement officials.  In some cases,
this means turning the other way when a shipment from a trafficker who has
paid off the right people comes through.  In other cases, the complicity is
much more involved.  Even those of us with rather short memories can
remember the U.S. involvement in the drugs-for-guns operation run by Ollie
North and his cohorts that supplied the contra forces fighting the
Nicaraguan government in the 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-09-23 14:17:37 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 and the dirty bastards, when they can't utilize it for their
 own power, many times situate landfills on top of the holy
 sites...off with their heads.

Every invader desecrates the 'holy' sites of their predecessors.
Athabaskans [Navajo  Apache] invaded the SW and desecrated Hopi
holy sites.  Spanish Catholics invaded and desecrated Navajo holy
sites.  WASPs invaded  desecrated Catholic holy sites.  NewAgers
invaded and desecrated Prod holy sites.  And on and on and on...
If your deities can't protect your holy sites from the invaders,
what good are your deities?  How holy are those sites?

Back in the early '70s, I decided it would be useful to have on hand a
fine-scale map of geomagnetic and gravitational "anomalies" in the US (and
other continents), making it possible to cross-reference points of extreme
variation  --the highest ("peaks") and lowest ("valleys") field-values-- with
precise geographical locations, in order to see if such things as UFO
sightings or other paranormal phenomena were statistically more common at
those points.  I was able to obtain gross-scale maps from such agencies as
the US Geological Survey (I got a map of Asia from a Soviet scientist who,
surprisingly, responded promptly to my shot-in-the-dark request) but anything
finer was difficult to come by -- only half the states had been
geomagnetically/gravitationally surveyed in detail and the remaining had to
be pieced together from smaller regional maps (sold separately) which still
left gaps in the picture, like a jigsaw puzzle with missing pieces.

At any rate, after I had spliced together all the piece-maps available at the
time, I next set about attaching geographical place-names to the
longitude-and-latitude coodinates of the grid showing only field strength and
density, and the very first thing that leaped out at me was one odd fact --
in almost every location where there was a NEGATIVE anomaly (at energy
"sinks," where, theoretically, living organisms would experience "diminished
capacity" and function poorly), there was a "restricted-access" military
base!  These places were the OPPOSITE of "sacred places," something more like
"demonic graveyards," and I seriously doubt that anyone had deliberately
CHOSEN them as sites for secret test facilities (or whatever) DUE TO special
"field properties" measurable by science, since many of the military bases
erected there dated from an earlier period, prior to science's ability to
identify, much less measure, such things.

So, this observed correlation between "UNHOLY sites" --which even animals
tend to avoid-- and military bases or secret government research facilities,
still remains to be explained ...  Could it be because (1) only the most
dangerous or sinister among us INSTINCTIVELY, a la some "sixth sense," feel
"at home" there, in the same way that predators nest in foreboding places
where their prey would be reluctant to venture?
Or just because (2) these locations, often desolate and devoid of life, make
ideal hiding places for those who want to go about their business far from
society's prying eyes?

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Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-09-23 15:35:11 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Wow, neat stuff!   I heard Zecharia tell the audience in a
lecture once that "Anunaki translated formally to 'The Lofty
Ones'"

That's correct, as I recall.  The ANUnaki were the elder children of ANU,
"the High (or Lofty) One," a common title for sky-gods.  The sky or "heaven"
is, after all, Up There.  The Igigi, a different group, were the equivalent
stars in the SOUTHERN hemisphere, which set BELOW the horizon -- descending
to the "underworld," figuratively.  By the same symbolic reasoning, they
could be called the sons of Ea or Enki ["Lord of Ki," a variant of "Kur," the
primeval earth-beast] , the south-polar god who took their side against
usurper Enlil/EL-lil ("lord of the atmosphere") in a Titan-like revolt of
certain gods forced to work the "mines" (like the Titan-born Cyclopes of the
Greeks) within the earth or otherwise exiled to the world "below" (like the
Fallen Angels in the Book of Enoch or the Nefilim in Genesis).  Ea/Enki, as
you know, was the "Prometheus" of Sumeria, a "trickster" god of subtle wisdom
and a "friend of mankind" (famous as the savior of Utnapishtim, our Noah) who
took the hybrid creature's side against the evil Enlil/El,
who wanted to destroy humanity entirely in the Flood for "rebelling" as did
the Igigi.

In the Sumerian texts, it was the Igigi who revolted against being subjected
to hard labor by their brothers the Annunaki, who remained sky-borne and
aloof.  Just as in Greek mythology, the younger Olympians (Zeus would be the
equivalent of Enlil) overthrew the Old Gods of NATURE, the Titans, and the
rebellious spirit of freedom survived in the son of the leader of the Titans
and his heir, Prometheus, whom Zeus feared as rival and possible successor.
The gods hated human beings and held them in contempt.  Only rometheus, who
helped CREATE man, cared about us little creatures, to the extent of even
sacrificing himself (he was chained to a rock, his liver eaten by Zeus'
totem-eagle) to "save" us, by granting "fire from heaven," light or
INTELLIGENCE, which he STOLE from the jealous gods of the second generation,
who had already enslaved NATURE.

Sitchin (with whom I discused this point) is well aware of the parallels
between the fish-god Ea/Enki and CHRIST with His "fishes" and "fishermen"
associations, and the parallels between the Gnostic dualism of Christ vs. the
Demiurge (FALSE Creator,
identified with the wrathful war-god Jehovah) and the Sumerian cosmology of
RIVAL gods, Ea/Enki and Enlil, understood as TWINS born of Anu, but of
different mothers.
Sitchin, however, is an Israeli Jew who studied under rabbis, and naturally
takes the OPPOSITE side that I myself would support if such a duality were a
theological fact --
in his latest writings, he is a wholehearted supporter of Enlil/Jehovah and
goes as far as to justify human enslavement by the "lofty" gods, who intended
us to be mere cattle.
Me, I'd go with Ea/Enki, mankind's SAVIOR-god, and with the SON of Ea/Enki
known as Dumuzi in Sumerian, Tammuz in Babylonian/Hebrew, a dying/resurrected
"savior"
who is, even in the minds of many scholars, the archetype of our later idea
of Christ.

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[CTRL] REALLY scary mind control

1999-09-24 Thread Tenorlove

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   http://www3.mcps.k12.md.us/users/rsfay/magic/index.html

There's got to be an explanation

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[CTRL] Gore's Year 2000 Platform

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

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[CTRL] Was Taiwan earthquake induced?

1999-09-24 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Anybody know if the Taiwan eartquake was artifially induced? Russia and
China are now buddies. Russia has a HAARP like thing called Woodpecker.

 http://www.eagle-net.org/groomwatch/
 Norio usually has weaponry details.

 http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Keep/4885/skywatch/

 http://www.sightings.com/

 http://www.sightings.com/political/weapons/weapons.htm

 See below.

 Nicky


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  Human Engineered Earthquakes
  "Soul Catcher" Chip
  HAARP's Demonic Powers



 BACK TO SIGHTINGS
earthquake had a helping hand, as Russia with its HAARP like Woodpecker
and China are now buddies?

http://www.eagle-net.org/groomwatch/
Norio usually has these type of weaponry details.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Keep/4885/skywatch/

http://www.sightings.com/

http://www.sightings.com/political/weapons/weapons.htm

See below.
Nicky


 Secret Weapons Technology





 China Building Satellite-Busting Laser Weapons
 Airborne Laser Weapon System On 747s Now In Production
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[CTRL] Fwd: U.S. Proposes IMF Changes

1999-09-24 Thread Carl Amedio

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 U.S. Proposes IMF Changes

 .c The Associated Press

  By MARTIN CRUTSINGER

 WASHINGTON (AP) - The Clinton administration, responding to growing
criticism about its policies toward Russia, says it will push for changes at
the International Monetary Fund to make sure Russia and other countries don't
misuse the billions of dollars the IMF provides in loans.

 While insisting the administration's overall approach to Russia has been
sound, Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers unveiled proposals Thursday that
would call on the IMF to make wider use of independent audits and allow the
lending agency to impose stiffer penalties for countries caught lying.

 Summers said he expected to gain backing for the proposals during a meeting
Saturday of finance ministers and central bank presidents of the world's
seven wealthiest countries - the United States, Japan, Germany, France,
Italy, Britain and Canada. The changes would have to be approved by the IMF's
governing board.

 ``We have a huge interest in whether Russia becomes a market economy, on
whether it stays a democracy,'' Summers said in announcing the package of
proposed reforms.

 The new requirements are intended to strengthen the IMF's ability to guard
against the misuse of its loans - one of the allegations that has been made
against Russia in a widening investigation of corruption and money laundering
in that country.

 The package of proposals comes amid renewed criticism from Republicans in
Congress that the Clinton-backed IMF approach to Russian economic reform has
been a huge failure.

 The United States will ask that the IMF be required to order independent
audits of central banks in countries suspected of misusing loans. It also
wants the IMF to be given greater leeway to penalize borrowing countries
caught lying to the agency about domestic economic conditions and be allowed
to impose penalties for abuse even after a country has stopped borrowing from
the agency.

 The G-7 discussions this weekend are being held in advance of the annual
meetings of the 182-nation International Monetary Fund and its sister lending
organization, the World Bank.

 Financial markets are anticipating that participants also may discuss a plan
to jointly intervene in currency markets to buy dollars in support of the
U.S. currency, which is close to a 44-month low against the Japanese yen. The
dollar's weakness has unnerved American investors, who fear it will boost the
cost of imports and add to inflation, and has been cited as a key reason for
falling U.S. stock prices.

 Summers refused to be drawn into a discussion on whether the G-7 might
consider coordinated intervention to support the dollar. He said he will
stress the need for more balanced global growth - with increased economic
activity in Europe and Japan taking the pressure off the U.S. economy.

 But Summers said Japan's recovery remained uncertain, making it critical for
the Japanese government to remain committed to ``continued stimulus, using
all available tools'' to boost domestic-led demand.

 On another matter., Summers and IMF Managing Director Michel Camdessus said
they were optimistic that agreement may be reached on a plan to increase the
amount of debt relief provided to the world's 41 poorest nations. A the key
elements of the plan is the sale of 14 million ounces of the IMF's gold
reserves to IMF member countries, rather than on the open market, and use the
proceeds to forgive debt held by these countries.

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U.S. Proposes IMF Changes

.c The Associated Press

 By MARTIN CRUTSINGER

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Clinton administration, responding to growing criticism about 
its policies toward Russia, says it will push for changes at the International 
Monetary Fund to make sure Russia and other countries don't misuse the billions of 
dollars the IMF provides in loans.

While insisting the administration's overall approach to Russia has been sound, 
Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers unveiled proposals Thursday that would call on the 
IMF to make wider use of independent audits and allow the lending agency to impose 
stiffer penalties 

[CTRL] Northern California's Forfeiture Campaign

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

The latest campaign by former "radical" Jerry Brown, who distinguished
himself earlier by being the only mayor in the Bay Area to WELCOME the
military to his town  to conduct "Urban Warfare" exercises there, after San
Franciscans had flat-out refused to allow black helicopters and tanks to run
rampant through our City streets.


OAKLAND [FORFEITURE] LAW THREATENED

 "[Oakland] Mayor Jerry Brown asks [California governor]
Davis to veto bill that would make conviction [of a crime] a
prerequisite [for forfeiture]"

by Matthew Yi
San Francisco Examiner, Sept 23, 1999

 OAKLAND - Mayor Jerry Brown has fired off two letters to
Gov. Davis urging him to veto a bill that could kill a local
ordinance allowing police to confiscate cars used in alleged drug
deals or prostitution solicitation.
 The bill, by Assemblyman Herb Wesson, D-Culver City, would
end Oakland's "Operation Beat Feet" law, which was adopted by the
voters in 1997.
 That controversial city ordinance allows police to seize
vehicles if the drivers are suspected of crimes; they do not have
to be charged with a crime. Owners can later reclaim their cars
after negotiating a price with the city, or the city can sell
them at a public auction.  Proceeds are split 50-50 between the
city and the Police Department.
 Originally, Wesson's Assembly bill merely updated existing
law regarding asset forfeiture for white-collar crimes, making it
easier for prosecutors to pinpoint illegally obtained goods.
 But an amendment added in the state Senate requires that
defendants be found guilty before any property is seized, and
that local ordinances be in line with state law.
 "Basically, you cannot seize anyone's illegally obtained
assets unless they are convicted,"  Wesson said.
 Calling the amendment a  "blatant and ideological attack
on the people of Oakland,"  Mayor Brown has urged Gov. Davis to
reject the bill. The governor has until Oct. 10 to either sign or
veto it.
 "I call upon you to veto AB662 and stop in its tracks the
unconscionable undermining of home rule,"  Brown said in his
letter dated Sept. 10.
 In a second letter dated Sept. 15, Brown contended the
bill was "highjacked in the state Senate at the 11th hour."
 "Without a moment of public hearing, the measure was
amended to include an unrelated preemption provision killing
Oakland's "Beat Feet' program," he wrote.
 Brown was out of town Wednesday and could not be reached
for comment.
 Wesson said he was not surprised by Brown's letters to
Davis.
 "I respect (Brown's) opinion," he said.  "This was not a
personal attack on Oakland ... I believe the amendment made it a
better bill because it ensures that you can't take something from
someone until they are convicted."
 But Oakland officials argue that invalidating the local
ordinance would violate the state Constitution, which reserves
the right of charter cities to make and enforce local laws.
 " 'Beat Feet' is a completely constituency driven, local
ordinance," said deputy city attorney Marcia Meyers.
  "It was an outcry from the community to deal with
degradation with entire areas of this city. With drive-by drug
dealers ... and rampant prostitution, random arrests by police
officers just weren't getting the job done."
 Since the program started in January 1998, the city has
won all of the asset forfeiture hearings in Alameda County
Superior Court, she said.
 "We've seized more than 300 vehicles,"  Meyers said.  "Our
statistics show that 60 percent of the people arrested are from
out of town, which indicates to us that people are using Oakland
to do their dirty business and illegal activity."
 This is not the first time Oakland's program has been
under fire.
 Critics from the beginning have argued that the ordinance
is a draconian measure and violates civil rights.
 The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit against
Oakland last year, contending the measure violates state law by
seizing property without a conviction.
 However, Alameda County Superior Court Judge Henry
Needham Jr. ruled in favor of the city, and the ACLU has
appealed the case.
 "Oakland's ordinance is completely 100 percent enforced
with sting operations,"  said ACLU managing attorney Alan
Schlosser.  "That's a legitimate law enforcement tool, but that's
subject to abuse ... and subject to entrapment."
 Despite such arguments, at least one other Bay Area city
is thinking about adopting a similar city law.
 San Francisco Supervisor Amos Brown* is planning to hold a
public hearing Sunday at Bethel Christian Church in The City to
get feedback on the issue.
 "If we don't have measures in place in our society to
legally deal with these kinds of criminal activity, we'll never
solve the problem," Supervisor Brown said.
 Supervisor Brown said he liked Oakland's program, but
feared that drug dealers or people looking for prostitutes would
take their business 

[CTRL] San Francisco, Electrified and Quaking

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

 Something is wrong (at least wronger than usual) here in the Bay Area
...
 First, really unparallelled thunder and lightning (I watched a massive
lightning bolt travel HORIZONTALLY from horizon to horizon, SLOWLY) twice in
two weeks, each time "explained" as a byproduct of a dying Pacific hurricane
-- two different ones.
 Second, COINCIDING with a thunder-and-lightning display, an EARTHQUAKE
of exactly the rare type that struck Taiwan -- arising near the SURFACE of
the earth.
 Geez, I wonder if China is test-running some secret Tesla weaponry ...


4.2 quake centered in Sonoma County

San Francisco Examiner, Sept. 23, 1999

 A "very common" earthquake caused some uncommon jitters for
Santa Rosa-area residents Wednesday but damaged nothing more than
nerves, authorities said.
 The 4.2 temblor struck about 5 miles northeast of Rohnert
Park at 3:27 p.m. and was felt as far south as San Francisco.
 Earthquakes of magnitude 4.2 "are usually not even felt,"
said Pat Jorgenson of the U.S. Geological Survey.  "There is
probably at least one of them in California every day."
 Jorgenson said Wednesday's shaker had been noticed because
"it was fairly shallow - less than 10 miles deep."
 Santa Rosa resident Betty Becker, a native San Franciscan,
said she had experienced many earthquakes in her 75 years "and,
boy, this one really shook."



Lightning Storm Hits San Francisco

SAN FRANCISCO, Sept. 9 (AP) - A rare, spectacular lightning storm flashed
through the Bay area, bringing hail, rain and power outages.

At its peak Wednesday night, the storm cut power to about 55,000 Pacific Gas
 Electric customers. That figure was down to 9,400 by early today, utility
spokeswoman Maureen Bogues said.

For about 12 hours, the storm touched off hundreds of lightning strikes from
San Francisco to the Santa Cruz Mountains, 60 miles south. Trees and power
poles were set on fire, making it dangerous for crews to fix electricity
failures affecting spots from the Oregon line to Bakersfield, 400 miles away.

One lightning bolt nicked a chimney in San Francisco and another in San Jose
split a tree, part of which fell onto a house. No injuries were reported.

``This is spectacular,'' National Weather Service meteorologist Jeff Kopps
said. ``It's just phenomenal.''


San Francisco Area Hit by Rare Lightning, Thunderstorm,

San Francisco, Sept. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The San Francisco Bay area was hit with
hail, rain and power outages caused by a rare lightning and thunderstorm, the
Associated Press said. The storm, a remnant of Hurricane Greg, touched off
hundreds of lightning strikes from San Francisco to the Santa Cruz Mountains,
60 miles north. At its peak last night, the storm cut power to about 55,000
Pacific Gas  Electric Corp. customers, although only 9,400 remained without
power by early today, utility spokeswoman Maureen Bogues told AP.

Tropical Storm Greg, downgraded from a hurricane, battered Mexico's west
coast as it moved toward the tip of the country's Baja California peninsula,
with maximum winds dropping to 60 mph from 75 mph.


Quake Rattle Bay Area

ROHNERT PARK, Calif., Sept. 22 (AP) - A moderate earthquake measuring 4.2 in
magnitude rattled Northern California on Wednesday, but no damage or injuries
were reported.

The quake happened shortly before 3:30 p.m. and lasted only a few seconds,
according to Pat Jorgenson, spokeswoman for the U.S. Geological Survey.  It
was centered along the Rodgers Creek fault, about five miles northeast of
Rohnert Park, a small city 42 miles north of San Francisco.


Night storm flashes around the Bay

 by Larry D. Hatfield,
 San Francisco Examiner, Sept. 22, 1999

 Blame it all on Hilary.
 That's monsoonal Hilary, not the senatorial one.
 The remnants of former Hurricane Hilary, lumbering
northwestward in the tropical Pacific, scattered flash-bang
weather over the Bay Area and much of the rest of California
early Wednesday.
 Window-rattling thunder, brilliant streaks of lightning
and occasionally heavy rain moved through the Bay Area,
starting some grass fires, causing minor flooding, scattered
power failures, setting off car and burglar alarms and otherwise
making the last day of summer's weather interesting.
 There was more to come, with roving bands of thunderstorms
expected to create thunder, lightning, gusty winds, rain and hail
around the region throughout the day.
 Although there was some rain associated with the unsettled
weather, state fire officials worried that the swarms of
lightning strikes could start new wildfires.

Fires still burning

 Fog, high humidity and some rain helped keep it static
Wednesday morning, but a major fire continued to burn in Los
Padres National Forest south of Carmel, forcing evacuation of
residences, monasteries and businesses there. The 2-week-old
lightning-caused fire has burned 28,079 acres of rugged coastland
and was only 16 percent contained early Wednesday.

Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world

1999-09-24 Thread Tenorlove

 -Caveat Lector-

--- Sean McDougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am going to guess that your despisal of eco-minded individuals has
lead you to not know many of them first hand. snip is it population
control or population control advocates?

I'll tell you about 2 incidents.

1. One day I was out with my first child and a large pregnant belly. A
woman I didn't even know walked up to me and blasted me for
contributing to the world's overpopulation, saying that I was "wasting
our precious Mother Earth's resources and exploiting poor people of
color." This was a white woman with one child tagging along. I am part
Lakota, mostly of European extraction, but 100% American since America
is the land of my birth and culture. I found her remarks extremely
offensive. First, walking up to a stranger and butting into personal
business is a serious breach of etiquette, defined as simple
consideration for others. Second, her remark struck me as racist, both
against whites for reproducing, and against "people of color" for
casting them in the role of eternal victims. Being part Lakota, and a
woman, I could claim victimhood for myself, but I have chosen to be a
person, not a victim.

2. A woman who was once a close friend (we've grown apart over the
years) told me she was an advocate of zero population growth. Her own
(one of 2) daughter has 4 children. I asked her about that. She said
that her daughter should not have had more than one child. This woman
had previously expressed how hurt she was that her daughter no longer
speaks to her. I wonder why...

Yes, the message disturbs me. Which population is supposed to be
reduced? Me? You? I keep seeing images of Hitler and Waco
ENFORCED population control infringes on human freedom and human
dignity as much as restrictions on freedoms of worship, association,
and exchange of ideas. If you have further questions, I'm sure I'll
read them on the list.

Tenorlove
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[CTRL] Dirty 12 / Top 10

1999-09-24 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From www.academia.org


 THE DIRTY DOZEN
 America's Worst College Courses



 As the school year begins, Accuracy in Academia releases its Dirty
 Dozen worst college courses in America. After surveying the course
 catalogs of America’s top schools, Accuracy in Academia has found an
 extensive array of classes that range from the frivolous to the
 politically motivated. As the new millennium approaches, professors
 continue to cling to the same tired, politically correct themes that
 they’ve been pushing for years.

 *  Oberlin College’s Feminist Criticism of Shakespeare seeks to engage
 in “critiques, resistant readings, and reinterpretations” of the Bard.
 It seems Shakespeare is only worth reading when he is transformed by
 campus feminists. This course promises to “emphasize how gender must be
 understood in relation to history, class, ethnicity, sexuality, and
 other significant social categories.”

 *  Berkeley’s Lesbian and Gay Detective Fiction “will give the students
 and instructor an excuse to spend time during a busy semester reading
 and discussing a pile of detective novels.” Students will examine how
 “the outlaw sexuality of the protagonists plays out against the outlaw
 activities of the antagonists.”

 *  Bucknell’s Green Utopias introduces students to “literary utopias and
 the cultural writings of various ecological movements offering
 alternative concepts to the increasing destruction of nature.”
 Greenpeace would be proud.

 *  Women, Gender Identity, and Ethnicity at U. of Northern Arizona will
 discuss “important women’s issues,” such as “witches” and “fairy tales.”
 What better way to prepare for the workforce than to learn how to
 construct a “mini Welfare budget” and role play as a single mother and
 have it go towards 10% of your grade? Exploitation of women in rock
 videos and advertising will be explored as well.PictureIs Captain Kirk
 worthy of study?


 *  Star Trek and Religion at Indiana promises to go beyond just a bunch
 of Trekkies sitting around admiring Captain Kirk and Bones. It discusses
 how religion is portrayed on Star Trek and delves into the writings of
 “critics who hope for the demise of religion,” and those who believe
 “religion can be re-imagined in mystical or cosmic terms.” Purists
 beware! The course studies Next Generation and Voyager, in addition to
 the original series.

 *  Is Black Marxism any different from plain old Marxism? This black
 studies course at UC-Santa Barbara teaches so. Although Marx had very
 little to say about sociology, anthropology, black studies (he often
 used the “n” word and expressed hatred toward blacks), literature, etc.,
 Marxist academics hell bent on preaching his failed ideas inject his
 “ism” into most academic fields—even when it has no relevance.

 *  Gender, Jocks, and Justice: Title IX and American Education is an
 offering from Dartmouth’s women’s studies program. Predictably, the
 course description reveals it as advocacy masking itself as education.
 “Is female accomplishment in sport a direct threat to men?” the course
 asks.

 *  In Issues in Afro-American Development. Politics, Economics, and
 Development: Affirmative Action at Michigan, the instructor works to
 “develop the language to articulate affirmative action as a right and
 not a benefit” at this school currently being sued for racial
 discrimination against whites. Black conservatives like Ward Connerly
 and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas will be exposed as “two major
 figures against affirmative action,” not as leaders for equality under
 the law. “In addition Proposition 209 (the initiative that eliminated
 preferences in California’s university system) will be discussed as an
 important watershed in the anti-civil rights movement.” The anti-civil
 rights movement?

 *  Penn’s Feminist Revisions of Fairy Tales and Myths  “addresses
 feminist critiques and rewritings of patriarchal mythologies.”
 Everything from the “nuclear family to the Disney film industry” is
 assailed as “infantilizing” women and “erasing her sexuality.”

 *  Gay and Lesbian Perspectives in Pop Music at UCLA focuses on
 “lesbians, gay men, and members of other sexual minorities as creators,
 performers, and audience members.” Accuracy in Academia recommends this
 course to students who have no career aspirations and enjoy classes
 devoid of intellectual challenges.


 *  White Racism at UConn—What better way to promote racial harmony than
 to blanket a whole group with the accusation of universal racism? White
 racism, the course claims, is “the central and enduring social
 principle” on which modern societies are organized.

 *  Amid growing political fervor over whether the census should actually
 count everybody, as is required by the Constitution, or employ
 statistical sampling, as liberal politicians have demanded, Counting
 Everybody: Census 2000 at USC takes a decidedly partisan tone. The
 course complains that “Congress is demonstrating 

[CTRL] Multicultural Politics in PC San Francisco

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

 Q: What's a "Democratic" administration?
 A: One where the most predatory and corrupt among women, homosexuals,
blacks and other ethnic minorities get a chance to rip off everyone TOO.


 [Note to non-San Franciscans: The City's mayor, Willie Brown, an
African-American Clintonoid "Democrat," was the mentor of ex-mayor, now
Senator, Dianne Feinstein (whose husband Dick Blum, if I recall, was Richard
Nixon's investment banker.)]


Blacks hail FBI probe of 'set-asides'
City anti-discrimination programs not working, they say

 by Chuck Finnie and Lance Williams
 San Francisco Examiner, Sept. 16, 1999

 San Francisco's enforcement of its affirmative action
rules came under heavy criticism from African American
business owners and laborers who said they were glad the
FBI launched a criminal probe into The City's minority
set-aside program for public works contractors.
 The Board of Supervisors heard the complaints Wednesday
during a public hearing about the FBI investigation.
 Little information about the probe was provided, though.
Some proposed reforms were discussed. But the hearing
became largely a forum for complaints about how
contracting dollars are awarded.
 Board of Supervisors President Tom Ammiano called for
tougher penalties against firms that violate the
minority contracting ordinance and said the Human Rights
Commission had asked for legislation that would
permanently bar from city contracting any company
convicted of defrauding the minority set-aside program.
 The Ethics Commission should be given authority to
investigate complaints about contract awards, Ammiano said.
 Speakers in the audience were particularly critical of
the Human Rights Commission, saying it had failed to
ensure that minority companies get a fair share of public
works contracts.
 "You deserve an FBI investigation,"  said Beth Aaron,
executive director of Bay Area Black Contractors.  "If
they (the Human Rights Commission) had done a good job,
the FBI wouldn't be here."
 The hearing, held by the supervisors Finance Committee at
the request of Ammiano, was the first at City Hall since
The Examiner reported in April that the FBI had opened an
investigation into city contracting and was focusing on
the set-aside program run by the Human Rights Commission.
 On July 31, FBI agents investigating suspected criminal
wrongdoing in city contracting sealed off the commission
office for two days, seeking subpoenaed records related to more
than a dozen contractors as well as personnel records and
appointment books or daily calendars of some Human Rights
Commission employees, including its executive director, Marivic
Bamba [[the City's only Filipino department head, accused of
disproportionately favoring her own countrymen, who operate a
kind of "Filipino Mafia" already monopolizing several professions
here by deliberately excluding members of any other race]].
 Federal authorities have refused comment on the probe,
but people interviewed by the FBI have said agents are
exploring allegations of fraud and favoritism in the award of
city contracts, particularly where government dollars were
intended to go to economically disadvantaged minority- and
women-owned businesses.
 At the hearing Wednesday, representatives of other
minority groups and women also testified, and a representative of
Mayor Willie Brown defended his administration.
 But it was African American business owners, tradesmen
and advocates for black contractors who turned out in the
biggest numbers.
 They voiced utter frustration over a system through which
hundreds of millions of dollars in construction and other
contracts are awarded each year but which they said
discriminates against them. They blamed not just the
commission, but also elected city officials for failing
to keep a tighter rein on the agency.
 "All this money has changed hands and has not trickled
down,"  said Gerard McKinney, a young black carpenter who
said he lives in Bayview-Hunters Point.
 "I'm hoping the FBI does its job but goes after the
bigwigs, too,"  McKinney said.
 A focus of the investigation, according to people
interviewed by the FBI, is Hunters Point trucker Charlie
Walker, a friend, former law client and political booster
of Mayor Brown.
 Walker, who served a three-year state prison term during
the 1980s for grand theft, attempted extortion, perjury
and tax evasion for bilking city minority contracting
programs, has received $825,000 in set-aside contracts
since Brown took office.
 The FBI also sought city records under subpoena on a
company called Scott-Norman Mechanical Inc., which has
obtained $55.1million as a minority subcontractor on San
Francisco International Airport's $2.4-billion
expansion since the commission ruled it eligible for
minority set-aside contracts.
 According to documents filed in a San Francisco lawsuit
that pitted partners in Scott-Norman against each other,

Re: [CTRL] Dirty 12 / Top 10

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

ROFLMAO  Typically hilarious PC "scholarship"!

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 Understanding the Russian MafiaTreasury Secretary Lawrence H. Summers: Testimony
 Before the House Banking CommitteeSeptember 21, 1999

 Chairman Leach, Ranking Member LaFalce, Members of the Committee, I welcome this
 opportunity to discuss our financial policies towards Russia in light of recent
 reports and allegations regarding corruption, capital flight, and money
 laundering. Given the crucial law enforcement challenges these issues pose, and
 given our significant national security and economic interests in Russia, it is
 certainly timely for this Committee to hold a hearing on these matters.

 Let me say at the outset, in the wake of recent allegations of money laundering
 through a U.S. bank, that safeguarding the integrity of the American financial
 system is an absolute priority for this Administration. We are committed to the
 full investigation of these allegations, to the prosecution of any crimes
 uncovered, and to strengthening our capacity to combat future abuses. We will
 continue to press Russia and other countries to put in place the laws and
 enforcement capacity to combat money laundering and other cross-border crimes.

 I would like to cover four topics in my remarks this morning: first, the broad
 context of our economic and financial engagement with Russia; second, Russian
 corruption, capital flight, and international money laundering; third, our
 financial policy towards Russia going forward; and fourth, our policies
 generally to combat global corruption and money laundering.

 I. Russia’s Economic Transition and American Engagement

 It would be difficult to overestimate the seriousness of the problems facing
 Russia today in the wake of the monetary and financial collapse of August 1998 –
 a collapse that was itself the consequence of long-standing Russian failures to
 finally establish and implement comprehensive reforms against the background of
 a deterioration in the international economic environment. These difficulties
 are of grave concern to the United States and will shape the terms of our
 engagement with Russia in the months ahead. But even as we recognize the
 enormity of Russia’s problems, it is important to see them in their broader
 context.

 After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Russia faced four difficult
 transitions: the transition from empire to state; the transition from
 totalitarianism to democracy; the transition from the law of force to the force
 of law; and the transition from a command economy to a market economy. The
 American people had then, and continue to have, an enormous stake in Russia’s
 making these transitions peacefully and successfully:

 It is a stake that derives from our national security interests, made all the
 more important by the large number of nuclear weapons that remain on Russian
 soil.

 It is a stake that derives from our interest in a strong and stable global
 economy and international financial system in which Russia becomes a healthy
 participant.

 And it is a stake that derives from our interest in protecting the integrity of
 our markets and our financial institutions from the scourge of corruption and
 money laundering – be it in Russia or any other country.

 The United States has pursued these critical interests bilaterally in a number
 of ways: through far-reaching arms control and military cooperation with Russia;
 through extensive formal and informal mechanisms and contacts; through bilateral
 aid programs; and through direct linkages between American and Russian law
 enforcement agencies.

 Along with technical assistance, the aspect of Russia’s transformation in which
 the Treasury Department has been, and continues to be, most heavily involved is
 Russia’s interaction with the international financial institutions. We have
 supported that interaction because of our assessment of the strong U.S. interest
 in Russia’s constructive evolution.

 Conditioned financial support

 From the start, the overarching economic objective of the international
 financial institutions in their operations in Russia has been to help Russia
 develop the policies and institutions of a functioning market economy as the
 route to stability and growth, an objective that the United States has supported
 as the major shareholder in these institutions. Economic instability in Russia
 raises important concerns for our national security, given Russia’s pivotal and
 continuing role with respect to nuclear security, the battle against terrorism,
 the stability of Eurasia, and conflict resolution in global hot spots like the
 Balkans.

[CTRL] Barry McCafferty

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan

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Some one was alluding to Mac being involved in the eastern trade. Can someone
please post a bio on the "general,"

Thanks.

Drug Peace not war

Om
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[CTRL] Health Care: Canada-Style

1999-09-24 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From
http://www.commoncouragepress.com/health.html

 The National Health Program Book
 A Source Guide for Advocates


 David U. Himmelstein, M.D.
 Steffie Woolhandler, M.D., M.P.H.

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 A simple, clear argument for a national health program like Canada's.

 Most Americans would prefer a national health program like Canada's that costs
 less than ours and insures everyone. Why, in a democracy, isn't this an option?
 The multibillion dollar health insurance industry fights for its life by
 promoting managed competition, keeping information from the public, and
 spreading lies about the Canadian system. This book gives you the information to
 fight back.

 Did you know?

 •Canadians live two years longer than Americans; •Canada spends only 9 percent
 of its gross national product on health care and insures everyone, while we
 spend 14 percent of our GNP and leave 35 million people uninsured; •Canadians
 get more care than Americans, and 95 percent of Canadians get the care they need
 within 24 hours, at least as fast as most Americans; •Administrative costs for
 health care were $911 per person in the U.S. in 1993 and only $270 per person in
 Canada. Going to a Canadian-style system would save enough on paper pushing to
 cover all of the uninsured; •The Clinton administration hopes to save money by
 pushing most Americans into Health Maintenance Organizations, but HMO premiums
 have been skyrocketing.



 This book decodes health insurance companies' propaganda, providing a tool to
 organize for what most Americans already know they want.

 Click here to view the Table of Contents
 http://www.commoncouragepress.com/healthcont.html

 David U. Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler are founders of Physicians for a
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[CTRL] (Fwd) Corporate Henchmen

1999-09-24 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Subject:Corporate Henchmen

Info on this email course is at the bottom.

 The Legal Gladiators: How Corporate America Protects Profits at Your
Expense

Myth: The genius of American capitalism is that corporations compete in a
free market environment designed to favor the companies that are most
efficient at giving consumers what they want.

In reality, corporate power over consumers and the entire society is
increasing at an alarming rate. One form of power is pushing costs of
doing business onto taxpayers, such as when utilities shift the costs of
managing radioactive waste to governments, "a kind of lemon socialism,"
write Ralph Nader and Wesley J. Smith in "No Contest: Corporate Lawyers
and the Perversion of Justice in America." Another form is the creation of
private governments. "The Walt Disney Company's 22,000 acres near Orlando,
Florida, are a private government with taxing, police, and zoning powers
over a territory as large as San Francisco. The private corporate domains,
such as giant shopping malls, 'business improvement districts,' and their
counterparts in the housing area, the so-called gated communities,
continue to break legal ground, stretching corporate sovereignty and
shrinking public places," the authors write.

This problem is made possible by the legal hired guns who are essential to
preserving corporate power. Just how old is it? Consider this admonition:

"Instead of holding a position of independence, between the wealth and the
people, prepared to curb the excesses of either, able lawyers, to a great
extent, allow themselves to become adjuncts of great corporations and have
neglected their obligation to use their powers for the protection of the
people. We hear much of the corporate lawyer and far too little of the
'people's lawyer.'"

It sounds like a warning from Ralph Nader, and it is quoted in his book.
But it's actually an insight made by then corporate attorney, Louis D.
Brandeis--in 1905!

Picking up on Brandeis's insight to show just how corporate lawyers do it,
the authors reveal a full bag of tricks which will be the subject of
future emails. But for now, consider the emblematic case of Lloyd Cutler,
famous for serving as the White House lawyer under Clinton.

* Corporate lawyers weaken the regulations responsible for ensuring public
safety. "In 1966, the major U.S. automakers hired Cutler to gut the
proposed motor vehicle safety legislation… More than 100,000 Americans
lost their lives and many more were seriously injured while Cutler
masterminded years of delay for his auto industry paymasters to keep air
bags out of any federal safety standards." Cutler even represented the
Ford Motor Company in the early seventies against air bags when General
Motors, however briefly, was touting the devices. In another example of
efforts to weaken regulation, his firm has also lobbied to weaken the Drug
Safety Act of 1962.

* Lawyers defend corporations accused of conspiring to minimize
competition. "Representing the Automobile Manufacturers Association back
in the late 1960s, Cutler persuaded the Justice Department's antitrust
division to drop a pioneering criminal prosecution of the automobile
industry for 'product fixing'--namely, conspiring to restrain competition
by agreeing to freeze technological innovations related to vehicular smog
controls," write Nader and Smith.

* Lawyers also work diligently to protect profits, even when it means
denying life-saving drugs to poor patients who can't afford them.
"Earlier, in the sixties, Cutler represented the Pharmaceutical
Manufacturers of America's (PMA) drive to block the McKesson and Robbins
Company's agreement to sell the government of Colombia lower-priced
generic drugs--from 80 to 90 percent cheaper than the brand-name medicines
for some important antibiotics. Senator Nelson's investigator, economist
Benjamin Gordon, believed that the effect of the PMA's opposition to
generic drug marketing would be to deny necessary medicines to large
numbers of impoverished people in South America," they write.

* Corporate lawyers are indispensable in procuring corporate welfare.
"Cutler's recent Canadian client is Barrick Goldstrike Mines, Inc., which
located $10 billion worth of gold on federal public land in Nevada. Prior
to joining the Clinton administration, Cutler pressed Bruce Babbitt,
Clinton's secretary of the interior, to sell the land above the gold
deposits for the tiny sum of $9,765--a price of about five dollars per
acre, authorized by the antiquated 1872 Mining Act. Babbitt denounced the
giveaway of the people's gold and urged passage of pending reform
legislation in Congress to give the government a more realistic value for
such lucrative public properties. But 

[CTRL] [BRIGADE] From Pat to the Brigades

1999-09-24 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Brigade -- this just in from Pat:



Memo to the Brigades
From Pat Buchanan

As our candidacy and books are both under ferocious fire back here, we
need help.  If our ideas are to prevail, they must be seen.  Reports are
coming in here that giant chain book stores are not carrying "A Republic, Not
an Empire" and others may be pulling the book from the shelves.  If we are to
win this battle, our ideas have to be seen and read in an undiluted,
undistorted form.  Please call your local book stores in every city and town
in
America, and demand to know if they are carrying "A Republic, Not An
Empire," and if not, why not?  We are taking incoming, but are holding up
fine.

Ride to the sound of the Guns! Pat Buchanan

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[CTRL] GOOD GUARD DOGS! COULD THEY BE ANY MORE BLATANT?!?!

1999-09-24 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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http://www.lucistrust.org/

Click the "World Goodwill" and "Triangles" links...


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[CTRL] (Fwd) [BRIGADE] PJB: Response to Republican Rivals

1999-09-24 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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--- Forwarded Message Follows ---
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Buchanan 2000
For Immediate Release - Friday, September 24, 1999

BUCHANAN RESPONDS TO REPUBLICAN RIVALS

MCLEAN, VA -- Today, Republican Presidential candidate Patrick J.
Buchanan released the following statement:

"Listening to John McCain, I may be the first man ever read out of the
Republican Party for refusing to support the Danzig policy of Neville
Chamberlain.   For those unfamiliar with A Republic, Not an Empire, let me
summarize what I believe:

"Hitlerism was conceived in the brutal gang rape of a defeated Germany in
the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles in 1919, as Woodrow Wilson, who had
promised justice to the German people, looked on.  The Harding-Coolidge-
Hoover policy of easing reparations and seeking to bring a defeated,
demoralized, divided, democratic Germany back into the family of Western
nations was morally and politically sound.

"Chamberlain's Danzig Policy, giving Poland a war guarantee he had neither
the capacity nor will to honor, was not only immoral, it was, as Lloyd
George said, 'demented,' and led to war in the West, the Nazi occupation
of the European democracies, the death of 400,000 British soldiers, and
the destruction of the British Empire.

"It was Wilsonism, liberal interventionism, not 'isolationism,' that
created the moral-political swamp in which fascism, Hitlerism, and
Stalinism were spawned.  Unable to deal with the truth-that their own
heroes produced the disasters that may yet ring down the curtain on
Western Civilization-the blind children of Wilson now scapegoat Pius XII
and America First.

"Do those attacking me realize they are defending the policies that
produced World War II and virtual annihilation of the Jewish population of
Europe?   While the West is busy erecting Holocaust museums, it has failed
to study the history that produced it.

"Today, the United States is handing out war guarantees all over Eastern
Europe, guarantees a future generation of Americans may refuse to honor,
guarantees that are driving a defeated, demoralized, divided and
democratic Russia, with 20,000 nuclear weapons, straight into the arms of
a Chinese Communist regime whose rulers bristle with hatred and resentment
at hubristic American attempts to create some arrogant 'global hegemony.'


"My book was written to prevent that cataclysm; my book was written to
save lives.  As for my Republican rivals, opportunistically piling on me,
to the giddy applause of the Establishment, do you really think you will
be spared, should you, too, violate the norms of Political Correctness and
speak truth to power?"

For more information contact JoAnne Hansen at 703.734.2700

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[CTRL] JIM KEITH TRIBUTES

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan

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from: http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/things.htm
A HREF="http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/things.htm"Steamshovel Press: Things
Are Gonna Slide! /A
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Jim, Thanks for being you, your writings and soul I know will continue to
help in the understandings that will help us reclaim our freedoms and
heritage.

Om
K
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Things Are Gonna Slide!



JIM KEITH TRIBUTES



Acharya S


Several years ago, I became aware of Jim Keith's abundant writings,
which so often displayed unusual courage and curiosity. With the book A
lternative Three, his name became seared in my memory. I remember
thinking, "Wow! Who's this guy, how did he get this book published, and
how's he so well known?" I was impressed and wanted to be like him in
that regard, writing and actually getting published books that were
controversial and ordinarily suppressed. Jim seemed to be selling quite
a few of them, as well, which is also very difficult. He was a maverick
paving the way for many others, as far as I could tell.

Secret and Suppressed published by Feral House was another of Keith's
fabulous works. In fact, it was because of this book and our mutual
friendship with eminent conspiriologist Kenn Thomas that, to my delight,
I became friendly with Jim. I did not know him well, but over these past
several months of exchanging email with him, I felt a kinship with him,
particularly when on a couple of occasions he and I got lumped together
in various discussions. I was pleased by such an affiliation, as,
despite Jim's often-difficult subject matter, his writing displayed care
and thoughtfulness, rather than the recklessness and laxity found in the
works of others.

Jim also had an extraordinary wit and gracious sense of humor. Even when
confronted by the fact that some of his work had been "copied" by others
and not attributed, he shrugged his shoulders instead of calling for
vindication. He seemed to recognize the fierce competition and
professional jealousy in his field and the world at large, and not to
let it affect him. Indeed, I can envision him raising a beer in honor of
his "sincerely flattering imitators."

The conspiracy world will be sadder and poorer for the loss of this
warm, pensive and dauntless man. I for one will have Jim Keith sitting
on my shoulder as a muse whenever I write about subjects that were near
and dear to his heart. Jim has left an inspiring mark upon the world
during his all-too-short life.

Acharya S Archaeologist, Historian, Mythologist, Linguist Member,
American School of Classical Studies at Athens, Greece Associate
Director, Institute for Historical Accuracy Director, Center for the
Research and Study of Theology Author of The Christ Conspiracy: The
Greatest Story Ever Sold www.truthbeknown.com


Jim Hougan


A fucking knee operation?


Joan D'Arc


Jim gave me rights to publish a little known talk he did, entitled "UFOs
at the Edge of Reality", which was published in Paranoia in Fall 1997.
It's really cool. His best quotes are the following:

"there seems to be a coverup about the fact that awareness creates
reality, is actually in charge of reality."

"there is an in-between realm in this omiverse where thought and matter
meet."

"The prototypical alien grey face is based upon the least information
units that you can interpret and still come up with a face."



"UFOs may constitute an "imagining" into future possibilities ... a
trial run in a new pair of shoes."

Let me know if you'd like this article. Actually, I'd have to type it,
since the original document is gone. But that would only take me a few
days.

My heartfelt condolences on the passing of your friend. We have all lost
a comrade in arms.






Adam Gorightly

What a fuckin' bummer, to say the least! We corresponded a lot, and he
was always super-generous and friendly--he seemed to have a real passion
for life. We planned to get together some time, and now I regret having
never met him face to face. I really feel for his kids...He will be
missed.

Jim Martin, Flatland


A BREW POURED ON THE GROUND FOR A DEAD HOMEY.

Soon after I started Flatland in 1984, Jim Keith sent me his zine,
Dharma Combat. I liked it right away and so did Flatlanders. Since then,
I listed every one of his non-fiction books as he produced them at an
incredible rate of three a year. Keith showed me flashes of brilliance
tempered with cynical contempt. I respected him. He disappointed me. I'm
sad he's dead, he had a spark.


John Quinn


If you're an investigative journalist who's lately publicly addressed
some fairly "warm" recent conspiracies, we would STRONGLY advise that
you be EXTREMELY careful NOT to have a relatively minor fall which might
result in a bruise serious enough for you to desire medical
advice/attention. If you DO incur such a bruise (or any other condition
needing medical attention), we would STRONGLY advise seeking care from a
KNOWN and TRUSTED practitioner ONLY. You wouldn't want a "blood clot"
from the impacted area to go to your lungs and 

[CTRL] Things Are Gonna Slide! -various

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/things9.htm
A HREF="http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/things9.htm"Steamshovel Press: Things
Are Gonna Slide! /A
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Things Are Gonna Slide!



BUFORD FURROW HAS A MILITARY EMAIL ADDRESS, part deux


Buford Furrow has military ID--and researcher John Quinn insists that
it's Buford Jr., although most now acknowledge that it's likely Furrow's
father--and belonged to Aryan Nations, run by 81 year old Richard
Butler. (Yahoo quotes Butler as saying he had not seen or heard from
Furrow, a former aerospace engineer, since 1994 or 1995. "He was a good
soldier at that time," says Butler.) Pages 136-7 of Maury Island UFO
have the Reverend Bob LeRoy talking about how Butler and William Gale
started the New Identity movement under Wesley Swift in California. Gale
worked for Hughes aircraft and was part of Charles Willoughby's spy net.
According to Dick Russell (p. 195 in Man Who Knew Too Much), in 1962
Gale was building "an underground network for the conduct of guerilla
warfare...some of the recruitment effort has been directed toward former
military servicemen." These are the Rangers, aka the Minutemen,
"composed of persons devoted to extremist racial and religious beliefs."
Russell adds, "It was quite a time for Willoughby's old journalist
acquaintance Mark Gayn to show up on the scene, authoring an article
titled "The Far Right: America's Own Ultras" for the April 1962 Canadian
Commentator magazine. The dateline was Los Angeles, and Gayn warned that
"the Minutemen are known to have acquired some first-rate automatic
weapons, and they thank big business for providing the funds for
this..."


Koestler on Women


From The Invisible Writing, 1954:

" Two episodes concerning women with whom I was not personally involved
deserve to be related here because they are characteristic of the
atmosphere of Berlin during the feverish months of Gotterdamerung that
preceded the Nazis' seizure of power. The first is pretty ghastly, and
hard to believe for anyone who has not experienced the mass-hysteria
that conquered the German people during the last days of Weimar. It
happened to a colleague of mine at Ullstein's, whose name has slipped my
memory-it sounded something like von Ehrendorf, so I shall call him
that.

During the carnival season Of 1932, Ehrendorf went to a dance and picked
up a tall, pretty blonde. She wore a large swastika brooch on her
breast, was about nineteen or twenty, gay, uninhibited and brimful of
healthy animal spirits-in short, the ideal Hitler-Madchen of the Brave
New World. After the dance, Ehrendorf persuaded her to go back with him
to his flat, where she met his advances more than half-way. Then, at the
climactic moment, the girl raised herself on one elbow, stretched out
the other arm in the Roman salute, and breathed in a dying voice a
fervent 'Heil Hitler'. Poor Ehrendorf nearly had a stroke. When he had
recovered, the blonde sweetie explained to him that she and a bunch of
her girl friends had taken a solemn vow, pledging themselves 'to
remember the Fuehrer every time at the most sacred moment in a woman's
life'.



The tricoteuses of the French Terror had found their successors in the
Valkyries of the Hitler era. I use this opportunity to confess that I
have always held a reactionary view of the part played by women in
politics. Taking history as a whole, female interference in matters of
State seems to add up to a rather nefarious balance. The male tyrants of
history are on the whole cancelled out by an equal number of reformers;
but where are the female humanists to compensate for the long series of
monsters, from Messalina to Catherine the Great, to Irma Griese of
Buchenwald? There are countless books for boys about great men, and no
books for girls about great women; yet an anthology about the harpies
who left their imprint on history would be an international best-seller.
I am talking of women who took a direct hand in politics; their indirect
influence via husbands and lovers is a different problem
altogether-though even here it seems that they have acted on the whole
more as catalysts of ambition than as neutralisers of aggression.

The second story is the counterpart of the first. Alfred Kantorowicz,
our cell leader, had asked a girl comrade to tea in his flat. There were
only the three of us present. The girl, whom I had not met before, was
dark and slim and would have been moderately attractive but for her
slovenly manner of dressing, and a curiously distraught look. She took
no part in the conversation, and did not even pretend to listen.
Suddenly she said to Kantorowicz: 'Do look out of the window now, and
see whether he is there; but be careful.'

Kantorowicz peered into the street from behind the curtain. 'There is
nobody,' he said reassuringly.

'When I came in, he was hiding behind a lamp-post,' said the girl.

She spoke in a quiet, resigned voice, without any emotion. Kantorowicz
now explained to me that comrade Hilda was in 

[CTRL] Fwd: Tagged Students Defy Big Brother, Part 2

1999-09-24 Thread K
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Tagged Students Defy Big Brother, Part 2
By David M. Bresnahan © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com
Students at Louisiana's Ruston High School continue to protest the use of ID badges displaying their Social Security numbers, one parent is threatening a federal criminal complaint, and the man who programmed the computers involved has given advice to the students -- become an administrative headache. (See part one, {HYPERLINK "http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/19990923_xex_tagged_stude.shtml"}Tagged students defy Big Brother in yesterday's WND.)
Each student in Louisiana, whether they know it or not, has a state student ID number. That number by default is also their Social Security number. Parents can object and require the school to use a different number.
"Students' parents can request a new state identification number if they object to use of the Social Security number," advised Eric L. Green, who was formerly contracted to install and administer the computers at Ruston High School
"The school is required to issue such a number if requested. This is by both state law and school district policy," he explained to WorldNetDaily. "This is the best form of civil disobedience. It causes a serious administrative headache and gives them great incentive to change the policy. It also directly involves district personnel, who, when inconvenienced, are likely to go to the superintendent's office and say 'This policy must be changed.'"
Students who have been protesting the new requirement to wear an ID badge displaying their Social Security number have refused to wear the controversial badges. Jonathan Washington was made to wear a temporary red badge on Thursday.
"I wore it for five minutes, then took it off," said Washington, 15. He said he did not wear a badge for the rest of the day. Others have begun to follow Washington's lead. Indeed, he has obtained hundreds of signatures of students supporting a petition to remove the Social Security numbers from the badges.
The school computers contain each student's Social Security number as well as a specially created student identification number. That number was created to avoid problems with the use of Social Security numbers.
"I am mystified why they put the Social Security numbers on the card, rather than the district-assigned seven-digit student identification number," Green told WorldNetDaily. "The district- assigned number was specifically created over seven years ago due to concerns about widespread use of the Social Security numbers, concerns expressed both by Lincoln Parish School Board district officials and by other school officials state-wide.
"The student identification number can be queried out of the Student Information Systems database just as easily as the Social Security number. The only thing that I can think of is that the placard-generating software they used had a nine-digit space for student ID number, and they were too stupid to figure out how to put a seven-digit number into that space," he explained from Arizona where he now lives.
Green was paid as a consultant to install the current computer system at Ruston High School, and spent two years supervising the transfer of data from those computers to the school district and to the state computers in Baton Rouge. Green also transferred data from the school lunch program computers to the federal government.
"The only system I know of that must use the federal Social Security number is the lunch system, where various anti-fraud laws require them to submit the data to the feds and the feds then match it against the food stamp rosters," Green explained.
The computers do not print out Social Security numbers on any reports, except for reports required by state and federal agencies. Reports used by the school system default to the student identification number, which is seven digits instead of the nine used by the Social Security number.
"I have no idea why other software vendors did not adopt such a solution to privacy concerns with the Social Security number, just as I have no idea why the administration at Ruston High School chose to use a number that their administrative software vendor had been specifically told (by the school district) not to use as a publicly reported piece of data, due to privacy concerns," Green stated.
"At this point, I have discussed the legal ramifications of this with the principal and an assistant superintendent who has gotten a legal opinion, albeit I think flawed, from a lawyer that represents them," said Paul Washington, father of Jonathan, in a phone interview with WorldNetDaily. "My feeling is that my next move is to either contact the federal authorities, or institute a lawsuit on my own. Either way, I am getting very close to instituting legal action one way or the other."
Washington said he hopes the school officials will change the ID cards before he is forced to take legal action to intervene. He has asked the principal to have the barcodes 

[CTRL] [BRIGADE] PJB: Response to Republican Rivals

1999-09-24 Thread Bill Richer

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Buchanan 2000
For Immediate Release - Friday, September 24, 1999

BUCHANAN RESPONDS TO REPUBLICAN RIVALS

MCLEAN, VA -- Today, Republican Presidential candidate Patrick J.
Buchanan released the following statement:

"Listening to John McCain, I may be the first man ever read out of the
Republican Party for refusing to support the Danzig policy of Neville
Chamberlain.   For those unfamiliar with A Republic, Not an Empire, let me
summarize what I believe:

"Hitlerism was conceived in the brutal gang rape of a defeated Germany in
the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles in 1919, as Woodrow Wilson, who had
promised justice to the German people, looked on.  The Harding-Coolidge-
Hoover policy of easing reparations and seeking to bring a defeated,
demoralized, divided, democratic Germany back into the family of Western
nations was morally and politically sound.

"Chamberlain's Danzig Policy, giving Poland a war guarantee he had neither
the capacity nor will to honor, was not only immoral, it was, as Lloyd George
said, 'demented,' and led to war in the West, the Nazi occupation of the
European democracies, the death of 400,000 British soldiers, and the
destruction of the British Empire.

"It was Wilsonism, liberal interventionism, not 'isolationism,' that created
the
moral-political swamp in which fascism, Hitlerism, and Stalinism were
spawned.  Unable to deal with the truth-that their own heroes produced the
disasters that may yet ring down the curtain on Western Civilization-the
blind
children of Wilson now scapegoat Pius XII and America First.

"Do those attacking me realize they are defending the policies that produced
World War II and virtual annihilation of the Jewish population of Europe?
While the West is busy erecting Holocaust museums, it has failed to study
the history that produced it.

"Today, the United States is handing out war guarantees all over Eastern
Europe, guarantees a future generation of Americans may refuse to honor,
guarantees that are driving a defeated, demoralized, divided and democratic
Russia, with 20,000 nuclear weapons, straight into the arms of a Chinese
Communist regime whose rulers bristle with hatred and resentment at
hubristic American attempts to create some arrogant 'global hegemony.'

"My book was written to prevent that cataclysm; my book was written to
save lives.  As for my Republican rivals, opportunistically piling on me, to
the
giddy applause of the Establishment, do you really think you will be spared,
should you, too, violate the norms of Political Correctness and speak truth
to
power?"

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[CTRL] [1] Nicaraguan Contras and Cocaine

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/contracoke.html
A HREF="http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/contracoke.html"Nicaraguan
Contras and Cocaine/A
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See also CIABASE and more Iran/contra information

Selections from the Senate Committee Report on
Drugs, Law Enforcement and Foreign Policy
chaired by Senator John F. Kerry

•I. INTRODUCTION
•II. THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH RESPONSE TO CONTRA/DRUG CHARGES
•III. THE GUNS AND DRUG SMUGGLING INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPS
•IV. DRUG TRAFFICKING AND THE COVERT WAR
•V. THE PILOTS
•VI. U.S. GOVERNMENT FUNDS AND COMPANIES WITH DRUG CONNECTIONS •A.
SETCO/HONDU CARIB
•B. FRIGORIFICOS DE PUNTARENAS
•C. DIACSA
•D. VORTEX •VII. THE CASE OF GEORGE MORALES AND FRS/ARDE
•VIII. JOHN HULL
•IX. THE SAN FRANCISCO FROGMAN CASE, UND-FARN AND PCNE
•X. THE CUBAN-AMERICAN CONNECTION
•XI. RAMON MILIAN RODRIGUEZ AND FELIX RODRIGUEZ
•FOOTNOTES
NARCOTICS TRAFFICKERS AND THE CONTRAS

I. INTRODUCTION

The initial Committee investigation into the international drug trade,
which began in April, 1986, focused on allegations that Senator John F.
Kerry had received of illegal gun-running and narcotics trafficking
associated with the Contra war against Nicaragua.
As the Committee proceeded with its investigation, significant
information began surfacing concerning the operations of international
narcotics traffickers, particularly relating to the Colombian-based
cocaine cartels. As a result, the decision was made to incorporate the
Contra-related allegations into a broader investigation concerning the
relationship between foreign policy, narcotics trafficking and law
enforcement.
While the contra/drug question was not the primary focus of the
investigation, the Subcommittee uncovered considerable evidence relating
to the Contra network which substantiated many of the initial
allegations laid out before the Committee in the Spring of 1986. On the
basis of this evidence, it is clear that individuals who provided
support for the Contras were involved in drug trafficking, the supply
network of the Contras was used by drug trafficking organizations, and
elements of the Contras themselves knowingly received financial and
material assistance from drug traffickers. In each case, one or another
agency of the U.S. government had information regarding the involvement
either while it was occurring, or immediately thereafter.
The Subcommittee found that the Contra drug links included:
--Involvement in narcotics trafficking by individuals associated with
the Contra movement.
--Participation of narcotics traffickers in Contra supply operations
through business relationships with Contra organizations.
--Provision of assistance to the Contras by narcotics traffickers,
including cash, weapons, planes, pilots, air supply services and other
materials, on a voluntary basis by the traffickers.
--Payments to drug traffickers by the U.S. State Department of funds
authorized by the Congress for humanitarian assistance to the Contras,
in some cases after the traffickers had been indicted by federal law
enforcement agencies on drug charges, in others while traffickers were
under active investigation by these same agencies.
These activities were carried out in connection with Contra activities
in both Costa Rica and Honduras.
The Subcommittee found that the links that were forged between the
Contras and the drug traffickers were primarily pragmatic, rather than
ideological. The drug traffickers, who had significant financial and
material resources, needed the cover of legitimate activity for their
criminal enterprises. A trafficker like George Morales hoped to have his
drug indictment dropped in return for his financial and material support
of the Contras. Others, in the words of Marcos Aguado, Eden Pastora's
air force chief:
... took advantage of the anti-communist sentiment which existed in
Central America ... and they undoubtedly used it for drug trafficking.
[1]
While for some Contras, it was a matter of survival, for the traffickers
it was just another business deal to promote and protect their own
operations.
II. THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH RESPONSE TO CONTRA/DRUG CHARGES

In the wake of press accounts concerning links between the Contras and
drug traffickers' beginning December, 1985 with a story by the
Associated Press, both Houses of the Congress began to raise questions
about the drug-related allegations associated with the Contras, causing
a review in the spring of 1986 of the allegations by the State
Department, in conjunction with the Justice Department and relevant U.S.
intelligence agencies.
Following that review, the State Department told the Congress in April,
1986 that it had at that time "evidence of a limited number of incidents
in which known drug traffickers tried to establish connections with
Nicaraguan resistance groups."
According to the Department, "... these attempts for the most part took
place during the period when the resistance was receiving no U.S.
funding and was particularly hard 

[CTRL] [2] Nicaraguan Contras and Cocaine

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/contracoke.html
A HREF="http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/contracoke.html"Nicaraguan
Contras and Cocaine/A
--[2]--
VII. THE CASE OF GEORGE MORALES AND FRS/ARDE

In 1984, the Contra forces under Eden Pastora were in an increasingly
hopeless situation. On May 30,1984, Pastora was wounded by a bomb at his
base camp at La Penca, Nicaragua, close to the Costa Rica border. That
same day, according to ARDE officer Karol Prado, aid to ARDE from the
United States was cut off.[69]
Despite continued pressure from the United States, Pastora refused to
place his ARDE forces under a unified command with the largest of the
Contra organizations--the Honduras-based FDN. The CIA considered Pastora
to be "disruptive and unpredictable."[70] By the time the Boland
Amendment cut off legal military aid to the Contras, the CIA had seen to
it that Pastora did not receive any assistance, and his forces were
experiencing "desperate conditions."[71]
Although there are discrepancies among the parties as to when the
initial meeting took place, Pastora's organization was approached by
George Morales, a Colombian drug trafficker living in Miami who had been
indicted on narcotics trafficking charges.
According to the State Department report to the Congress of July 26,
1986:
Information developed by the intelligence community indicates that a
senior member of Eden Pastora's Sandino Revolutionary Front (FRS) agreed
in late 1984 with (Morales) that FRS pilots would aid in transporting
narcotics in exchange for financial assistance...the FRS official agreed
to use FRS operational facilities in Costa Rica and Nicaragua to
facilitate transportation of narcotics. (Morales) agreed to provide
financial support to the FRS, in addition to aircraft and training for
FRS pilots. After undergoing flight training, the FRS pilots were to
continue to work for the FRS, but would also fly narcotics shipments
from South America to sites in Costa Rica and Nicaragua for later
transport to the United States. Shortly thereafter (Morales) reportedly
provided the FRS one C-47 aircraft and two crated helicopters. He is
reported to have paid the sum of $100,000 to the FRS, but there was no
information available on who actually received the money.[72]
The State Department said it was aware of only one incident of drug
trafficking resulting from this agreement between the Contras and
Morales and that was the case of Contra pilot Gerardo Duran. Duran was
arrested in January 1986, in Costa Rica for his involvement in
transporting cocaine to the United States.[73] Duranwas an FRS pilot
from 1982 to 1985 and operated an air taxi service in Costa Rica.
According to Marco Aguado and Karol Prado, Duran would fly supplies to
the Contras on the Southern Front and he would charge for each flight.
[74]
Robert Owen, courier for Lt. Col. Oliver North, testified to the
Iran/Contra Committees that he told North he thought Karol Prado was
involved in trafficking drugs out of Panama, and that Pastora's pilot,
Marco Aguado, was also involved.[75] The Subcommittee was unable to
validate Owen's claims. Prado vehemently denied these allegations
stating that he believed the drug trafficking allegations against
Pastora were the result of a CIA effort to discredit him.[76]
Morales testified that his involvement with the Contras started in 1984
at the urging of Marta Healey, the widow of one of his drug pilots,
Richard Healey.[77] Marta Healey's first husband was Adolfo "Popo"
Chamorro, the second in command to Eden Pastora in the FRS. She came
from a prominent Nicaraguan family.
At the time of his first contract, Morales was under indictment for
marijuana smuggling. He testified that he thought by assisting the
Contra cause his indictment would be dropped. Marta Healey introduced
Morales to Popo Chamorro, Marco Aguado and Octaviano Cesar at a meeting
in Miami. According to Morales, he wanted to make a deal: He would help
the Contras with their needs, and "they in exchange would help me with
my objective, which was solving my indictment." Morales believed the
Contra leaders would help him solve his legal problems because of their
contacts with the CIA.[78]
On October 31, 1987 in San Jose, Costa Rica, the Subcommittee videotaped
the depositions of three Contra leaders with intimate knowledge of the
Morales relationship with Pastora's organization in video depositions.
The three were Karol Prado, Pastora's head of communications; Marco
Aguado, Pastora's air force chief; and Octaviano Cesar who, along with
his brother Alfredo, were political allies of Pastora's at the time. A
fourth, Adolfo "Popo" Chamorro, who was Pastora's second in command in
ARDE, testified in closed session of the Subcommittee in April 1988.
Chamorro's testimony was taken in closed session by the consent of the
Subcommittee at his request. Dick McCall, of Senator Kerry's personal
staff, in an arrangement worked out with Chamorro and his attorneys,

Re: [CTRL] Hmmmmm. Texas Shooter A Right-Winger...Go Figure!

1999-09-24 Thread Tatman, Robert

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I suspect that the Phineas Priests are being set up as scapegoats/straw
men/excuses for domestic military intervention... Please note I do not
subscribe in any way to the doctrines of Christian Identity. However, it
begins to look as if an awful lot of the foofaraw about "domestic terrorism"
is a Martian firedrill... The "right-wing militia" didn't live up to their
billing as a threat to national security and public order, so now these
free-lancers have popped up to serve as a focus of righteous anger and
demands for action. Whether the Phineas Priests are mind-control victims or
"useful idiots", I don't know; but their sudden emergence into the limelight
is very convenient.

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 Fort Worth, Texas gunman linked to fascist group
 By Martin McLaughlin
 22 September 1999
 Use this version to print

 The gunman who murdered seven people at a Fort Worth church September 15
 had
 ties to extreme-right-wing groups in Texas, according to reports first
 published in the Houston Chronicle. Larry Ashbrook, 47, killed four
 teenagers
 and three adults before taking his own life.

 Writer John Craig is co-author of a 1997 book, Soldiers of God, which
 examines white supremacist and Christian fascist organizations in America.
 He
 told the newspaper that he had spoken to Ashbrook in 1997 while
 interviewing
 members of the Ku Klux Klan for the book. Ashbrook told him he was a
 member
 of the "Phineas Priests," one of the far-right tendencies which are
 collectively known as "Christian Identity."

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Re: [CTRL] ] Our Presidential Choices

1999-09-24 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Buchanan "could get a lot of votes simply because he is seen as an
outsider who is scorned for his political stance" -- as was the case with
Hitler. No one in the general public paid any attention to Hitler's ties to
big business, both German and American; they saw him as the champion of the
little guy, who was going to give them all jobs and tromp the shit out of
the Jews who were messing up Germany.

Who is really behind Pat Buchanan, anyway? The squabble in the
Reform Party between Buchanan, Perot, Ventura, and -- of all people -- The
Donald (Trump) is utterly bizarre and smacks of shadow play.


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 In a message dated 9/23/99 1:49:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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  "Buchanan=fascism of the nationalist variety."
 
   Thats "national socialism" of the Hitler- Mussolini variety.  There are
   indicators in Buchanan of other nat.soc. traits. (l)Racism and
   anti=semitism  (2) economic nationalism  (3) militarism (4) the
 strident
   leader image (5) appeal to the grass roots (6) dilution of the Nazi
 threat
   (7) rigid statist social views.
 
   As we have said before Buchanan is Right Hegelian.  No change for us
 
 

 Yes.  Thanks for the comments.  Let me elaborate a little.  The main
 thrust
 of his National Socialist (fascist) policy will concentrate on the idea of
 American economic domination, which will be a better tool for world
 control
 or policing than the military, though the military will be ready, willing
 and
 able to back it up.  Interesting point about the strident leader image.
 His
 grass roots appeal does seem to gloss over all the nefarious connections
 he
 may have had with neo-nazi types and the KKK.  He could get a lot of votes
 simply because he is seen as an outsider who is scorned for his political
 stance.



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[CTRL] Long-Term Capital Mgmt / FALN

1999-09-24 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From www.cato.org

 Briefing Paper No. 52September 23, 1999
 Picture


 Too Big to Fail?:
 Long-Term Capital Management and the
 Federal Reserve

 by Kevin Dowd

 Kevin Dowd is professor of economics at the University of Sheffield and
 an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute.

 Executive Summary


 In September 1998 the Federal Reserve organized a rescue of Long-Term
 Capital Management, a very large and prominent hedge fund on the brink
 of failure. The Fed intervened because it was concerned about possible
 dire consequences for world financial markets if it allowed the hedge
 fund to fail.

 The Fed’s intervention was misguided and unnecessary because LTCM would
 not have failed anyway, and the Fed’s concerns about the effects of
 LTCM’s failure on financial markets were exaggerated. In the short run
 the intervention helped the shareholders and managers of LTCM to get a
 better deal for themselves than they would otherwise have obtained.

 The intervention also is having more serious long-term consequences: it
 encourages more calls for the regulation of hedge-fund activity, which
 may drive such activity further offshore; it implies a major open-ended
 extension of Federal Reserve responsibilities, without any congressional
 authorization; it implies a return to the discredited doctrine that the
 Fed should prevent the failure of large financial firms, which
 encourages irresponsible risk taking; and it undermines the moral
 authority of Fed policymakers in their efforts to encourage their
 counterparts in other countries to persevere with the difficult process
 of economic liberalization.



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 Publications of the Center for Security Policy
 No. 99-D 104

 
 DECISION BRIEF
   23 September 1999


 The 'Smoking Gun': Sen. Inhofe Secures Proof of Sandy Berger's Involvement in
 Clinton's Pandering to Puerto Rican Separatists

 (Washington, D.C.): Twice in as many weeks, Samuel Berger -- the China trade
 lawyer-cum-Democratic political operative turned President Clinton's National
 Security Advisor -- has prevaricated publicly about his direct, personal
 involvement in decision-making that led to the early release of sixteen
 convicted Puerto Rican terrorists. For his mendacity in this matter, if not for
 the content of his flawed security policy advice, Sandy Berger should at last be
 relieved of his duties.

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it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your
own reason and your common sense." --Buddha
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one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller,
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[CTRL] Fwd: Martial Law, Internment Plans/PBS Lets Cat Out Of Bag

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan





9.23.99
Martial Law, Internment Plans
PBS Show Lets Cat Out Of Bag To Mainstream America

"Tony Brown's Journal" airs news of massive federal "relocation" plans
using military might in the event of serious Y2K problems, other major disasters.


Average Americans Mostly In the Dark--
No Surprise to Intelligence Community


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Reprinted by NewsHawk for educational purposes only under fair use
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Copyright 1999 All rights Reserved

Breaking News

September 22, 1999

We all know the FBI lied about Waco. Government troops blazed away at
the compound from helicopters, amored personnel carriers and the ground,
yet the FBI insists none of their people fired a single shot. Now the
FBI is about to face a new round of allegations, but this time, it's
about Y2K.

One of the longest-running television programs in the history of PBS,
"Tony Brown's Journal," is set to reveal explosive allegations as early
as this Friday. In the thirty-minute segment, already filmed, the former
FBI Special Agent reveals one blockbuster allegation after another,
describing, for example, how the contingency plan to relocate mass
numbers of people is hardly anything new to the intelligence community.
He says, "They prepare to go in and control the public in mass numbers,
to move them to certain locations. They have that plan in effect,
they've been training for years to do that."

About Y2K, the Special Agent says, "Y2K presents a problem because... if
you lose electricity, now you're talking about making movements under
the cover of darkness. ...And they realize... they have an acceptable
loss rate. In these movements during night, there may be some innocent
people who are harmed and shot, but that's acceptable."

Also set to be revealed in the interview: the FBI's "Mad Max" scenario
that allegedly characterizes blacks as "emotional people and not an
intellectual people" who are likely to loot and riot. The Special Agent
adds, "Mad Max would consist of them going in and restoring order by
using military force, by use of the National Guard, and by using HRT
[Hostage Recovery Team]
intelligence..."

But none of the allegations to be revealed in the show are a surprise to
the FBI, says the former agent. "This is not even a surprise if you
understand the intelligence community," he says, explaining that it is,
in fact, the responsibility of the FBI and the intelligence community to
anticipate and plan for these kinds of events.

In an interview with Y2K Newswire, the former Special Agent revealed
that if questioned, FBI officials would certainly not deny the existence
of such a plan. They would call it a "worst case contingency" and
explain that their security roles require them to plan for such emergencies.

Plans for mass relocations of the population, "acceptable casualties"
and removal of
so-called "dissidents" after a declaration of Martial Law are only a
surprise to the American public, not the intelligence community.

The full story is unveiled on your local PBS station beginning this
Friday. Shows may air any day from Friday, September 23 through Thursday,
September 30th. Check your local listings for exact air times.

Video tapes of the show can also be purchased for $29.95 by calling
1-800-524-3552 and asking for the show titled, "Race and Y2K." Y2K
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Tony Brown is the author of "Empower the People" and "Black Lies, White
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also regularly holds Y2K rallies to increase awareness and preparedness
among Americans.

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[CTRL] Waco Deception Up in Smoke

1999-09-24 Thread Bill Richer

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The New American
Waco Deception Up in Smoke

September 15, 1999


Waco Deception Up in Smoke
 by William Norman Grigg

Clinton Administration scandals display a common pattern. The initial
disclosures of wrongdoing are indignantly denied. Pleas are issued by
Administration spokesmen for people to "stay calm" and wait for "all the
facts" to come out. A cover-up of the relevant facts is then undertaken.
When damaging facts leak, Administration spin-controllers minimize their
significance, or if necessary preside over a controlled release of
further facts over a protracted period of time. When the full truth
about criminal misbehavior, or some significant portion thereof, is
finally made public, Administration spinners and their media allies
insist that the public has grown weary of the matter and that it's time
to "move on."

This approach has served the Administration well in its efforts to
surmount the Chinagate treason scandal, the Lewinsky affair, and
numerous other episodes. Not surprisingly, the FBI has followed a
similar approach in managing disclosures about its conduct in the 1993
slaughter of the Branch Davidian sect in Waco, which is the subject of a
federal wrongful death lawsuit by survivors and families of the victims.
An order from U.S. District Judge Walter Smith requiring federal
authorities to turn over all relevant evidence left from the April 19,
1993 siege turned up a shell casing from an M-651 CS canister, a 40 mm
incendiary grenade "that releases tear gas with a burning explosive
capable of sparking fires," observed the Dallas Morning News.

  Spin Strategy

Confronted with inescapable facts, the Justice Department followed
standard Clinton Administration procedure. First came the admissions of
proven facts that had long been denied. In late August, Danny Coulson, a
founder of the FBI's "Hostage Rescue Team" (which was involved in both
the Davidian massacre and the murder of Randy Weaver's wife and son at
Ruby Ridge) told the Dallas Morning News that pyrotechnic grenades had
been used by the FBI during the final assault on the Mount Carmel
church. After stalling for a news cycle by issuing further half-hearted
denials, the FBI, in the words of the August 26th New York Times,
"backed away from six years of unqualified denials to Congress and to
the public" and admitted that the canisters which were 'pyrotechnic'
only in a limited sense," the Bureau hastened to specify had indeed been
used at Waco. (The "limited sense" qualification, which savors of Bill
Clinton's equivocation over the meaning of the word "is," offers another
example of sophisticated dishonesty.)

The coinage of new euphemisms is a major Clinton Administration
industry, and FBI spokesmen enriched the vocabulary of double-speak by
allowing that they would have to "recant or modify" the previous
unqualified denials that FBI personnel had fired upon the Branch
Davidians on that tragic April morning. This provided a segueway into
the next step of the Administration's familiar spin strategy -- playing
for time to devise a new cover story: "We've seen the reports, and we're
trying to get to the bottom of them," stated Justice Department
spokesman Myron Marlin. Attorney General Janet Reno and FBI Director
Louis Freeh, clinging to the story that they have been the helpless
victims of unreliable information, promised a new, comprehensive
investigation of the matter, which is to say that they began the search
for a subordinate who would be a credible scapegoat.

Unfortunately for the FBI and the Justice Department, the chosen spin
for the "discovery" of the pyrotechnic shell casings undermines their
case. The Bureau's official line is that a Bradley Fighting Vehicle
carried an FBI agent to within 40 yards of the Mount Carmel church about
six hours before the catastrophic fire. The tear gas grenades, according
to the FBI's account, bounced harmlessly off a concrete structure
without causing any lasting damage. Furthermore, as the Times pointed
out, the FBI has "no new information to challenge the finding that the
Davidians themselves started the fire."

In other words, the detailed account explaining the presence of the
expended grenades was not new information. The FBI has knowingly,
systematically, lied to Congress and the public about this matter, and
the new "investigation" is an exercise in misdirection and delay.
Controlled Release?

Why did the FBI and Justice Department offer a damaging admission that
undermines their new cover story? One possibility is that the admission
was part of the third step in the Clintonite spin control process -- the
effort to minimize the significance of the long-denied but now
inescapable facts. By admitting that two grenades were fired at the
church several hours before the fires began, the Administration offered
a tardy admission which actually allows them to cling to the official
story that the 

[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Buchanan Run is Serious

1999-09-24 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear Brigade -- This column is GREAT - Read it!
GO PAT GO!!!
Linda

PS - Remember to spread the word - forward our Brigade emails across the
USA !!



Date sent:  Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:23:43 -0400
From:   Mark / Martha Zatezalo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:John Bender's article on Pat

Linda,   Caught this article on ETHERZONE.com. .  Bender is one of only a
few that realizes the blue collar support for Pat.
Go Pat Go!..martha z.  from blue collared Weirton, WV



A THIRD PARTY RUN BY BUCHANAN IS SERIOUS
By: John Bender

There seems to be little question that Pat Buchanan will leave the
Republican Party and run as the Reform Party nominee for president. The
real question is how will this affect the election next year.

Some pundits and columnists are saying Buchanan will help the
Republicans by leaving. They opine that Pat represents a group that the
party is better off without. Buchanan and his supporters are the ones driving
the party to the right at the expense of attracting moderate voters who are
more in line with the leadership of the party today. An exodus of the most
conservative part of the party will free candidates to run on a more moderate
platform.

The idea is ridiculous. The party cannot win the general election without the
conservative base. The professionals, who run campaigns for a living, know
this and are worried.

The latest polls show that a three-way race breaks down with Bush at 39%,

Gore at 36% and Buchanan at 16%. These numbers are now, before
Buchanan gets his hands on the $13 million in matching funds the Reform
Party has coming from the government. They are also before any debates,
and before the public gets interested in the election.

Buchanan is a skilled campaigner. He is either the best or second best
speaker in politics today. Some would argue he is second to Keys, but no
one would argue that Bush or Gore is as good behind a podium as
Buchanan. He is also good in interviews. Buchanan does not make mistakes
like Bush does, and does not talk down to people like Gore does.

One must also consider the Buchanan Brigades. No political figure in the
nation has a more dedicated base. The numbers in the Brigade may be
small but they are passionate. They work and they vote.

There is little passion for Bush or Gore. The largest number of Bush
supporters support him because they think he can win and is slightly better
than Gore. The largest number of Gore supporters, are voters who want a
Democrat and think Gore stands a better chance of winning than Bradley.

Add it all up and it equals a volatile campaign. Elections are unpredictable
at
best. The addition of a well funded, skilled candidate, who has a passionate
following, running on a third party ticket is not attractive to those running
against him. Anything can happen.

Buchanan pulls support from the Republican base who do not think Bush is
a conservative. They do not like his record as governor. They point to things
like his support for School to Work, his support for more state control of
charter schools and his teacher pay raise that was not tied to merit. His
public support for the Department of Education and an increased federal role
in education reinforce their concerns.

Other conservatives point to the fact that Bush's lack of leadership on the
Texas parental consent abortion bill, allowed the pro-abortion forces in the
Texas legislature to turn the bill into a parental notification bill. They
see the
fact that he is not ruling out picking a pro-abortion running mate as further
proof that Bush is not a real conservative.

Buchanan offers these people a candidate they can be sure is a conservative
who shares their views. He is consistent on these points and makes no
apologies for his stance.

The little secret that no one is talking about is Buchanan also draws from
the
Democrat base. He is the only candidate who is against NAFTA, GATT, and
WTO. He is popular among the blue collar and union voters.

Democrats remember Reagan took more than 60% of the union vote in his
two runs for president and it scares them. Rather than buck the membership
and look weak, the union bosses may back Buchanan.

The AFL-CIO is saying they may not back the Democrat ticket in this
election. They say they may just back individual candidates. It is possible
they could back Buchanan.

It is also possible the Teamsters would back Buchanan. The Democrats
conspired with Ron Carey to defeat James Hoffa, Jr. in the 1996 union
election. There is no love lost between Mr. Hoffa and the DNC or between
him and Al Gore. It is also important to remember that Mr. Hoffa's father
supported Reagan in both of his campaigns.

The union vote would be a big gain for Buchanan and a devastating loss for
the Democrats. It is even possible Buchanan can pull almost as many
Democrat votes as Republican votes if the unions support him.

There is one more 

[CTRL] CLINTON ENDANGERING NATIONAL SECURITY BY PLAYING POLITICS WITH

1999-09-24 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

   CLINTON ENDANGERING NATIONAL SECURITY BY "PLAYING POLITICS" WITH
PUERTO RICO...
  by Dot Bibee ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Last Night Criminal Politics ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) sent to me several
articles by FAX and asked me to break this news to you since it is NOT
being covered by the mainstream press.  Because of the "black out of
news" concerning what is REALLY going on, Americans think that Clinton
gave clemency to the FALN prisoners to help Hillary in her campaign.
NOT.   In danger is the closure of the U.S. Naval Station Roosevelt
Roads in Puerto  Rico (all operations) and the closure of Vieques
Island in Puerto Rico after an "accident" in April 1999 - and
subsequent occupation of the island by protestors whose purpose is to
"close" the naval operations in Puerto Rico.  Clinton has given in to
the "protestors" in spite of the fact that Naval officials at the
Pentagon and the Atlantic fleet  are putting pressure on Clinton to
allow the Navy and Marine Corp to resume practicing air-to-ground
bombing and naval gunfire at Vieques - which has been in use since
1941.  These military commanders are increasingly complaining that the
freeze on training at Vieques is jeopardizing U.S. combat readiness.
Sen. Inhofe will hold SENATE HEARINGS on September 22.  The following
is Sen. Inhofe's latest press release.Dot Bibee

U.S. Senator James M. Inhofe -- Press Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 14, 1999

* INHOFE SAYS U.S. BASE IN PUERTO RICO AT RISK IF VIEQUES TRAINING
  IS ENDED:  Says Clinton's Outrageous Clemency for Terrorists and
  Moves to Halt Training Are Politically Motivated


 WASHINGTON - U.S. Sen. James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.) warned today
that Roosevelt Roads Naval
Station in Puerto Rico might be closed  if military training on the
island of Vieques is ended.  If vital training on Vieques is
terminated, the requirement to maintain Roosevelt Roads Naval Station
is greatly diminished, Inhofe said.  Those with political motivations
seeking to oust the Navy from Vieques must understand that there will
be serious consequences and adverse local economic impacts if they
succeed.   As chairman of the Readiness Subcommittee, I would be
compelled to explore the
possibility of redistributing the functions performed at Roosevelt
Roads to any number of under-utilized
bases in the United States.
 Inhofe spoke on the Senate floor during debate on the resolution
deploring President Clinton's recent
offer of clemency to 16 Puerto Rican terrorists. The resolution was
later passed by a vote of 95-2.
 Inhofe said he was concerned that obvious political motivations
were behind both the President's offer
of clemency and the recent efforts to halt the Navy's bombing and
amphibious training at Vieques.  He
explained that U.S. military readiness was dependent on the unique
type of training which takes place at
Vieques and said he would hold a Readiness subcommittee hearing on the
issue on Sept. 22.
 Inhofe also condemned President Clinton's decision to grant
clemency to terrorists.   This outrageous
action only shows the extent to which this President will shirk proper
procedure, sweep aside law
enforcement concerns, and undermine national security, just to court
votes and approval from his favored
political constituencies.

The Senator's Home Page www.senate.gov/~inhofe/
=
To those who are interested in pursuing this storyline, the following
documentation is available:

Aug 3   -  Ltr from Capt. Stark, U.S. Naval Station Roosevelt Roads to
FBI San Juan Puerto Rico,
requesting that protestors be arrested and prosecuted.

Aug 16 -  Ltr from FBI James M. Weber to Capt. Stark stating that the
Justice Dept. has advised that
they are NOT willing to prosecute these individuals.

Aug 26 - Ltr from Sen. Inhofe to Janet Reno expressing concern
regarding the refusal of the FBI and
the Justice Dept. to investigate and prosecute individuals violating
the law by trespassing on and removing unexploded ordnance from
Vieques Island, Puerto Rico.

Sept 1 -  Puerto Rico threatens big guns: Navy firing-range feud could
hit campaigns of Gore, first lady,
by Tom Bowman and Jonathan Weisman, Baltimore Sun Staff

Sept 9 - Press Release - Inhofe Backs Vital Military Training at Navy
Facility in Vieques, Puerto Rico - Sets Hearing for Sept 22.

Sept 10 - Navy: Puerto Rico Ban Hurts Readiness, by Stewart M. Powell
(Pacific Stars and Stripes)

Sept 14 - Press Release - Clinton's "Ethnic Pandering" Has Emboldened
Puerto Rican Terrorists: as freed FALN terrorists vow to reunite,
underground leader threatens U.S. Navy - by the Republican National
Committee.

Sept 14 - Press Release - Sen. Inhofe (see above article)

Sept. 14 - See WorldNetDaily's page today (www.worldnetdaily.com):
From CNN.com -
Justice blocks FBI testimony at FALN clemency hearing.

FOLKS.  This is serious business.  The closure of the 

Re: [CTRL] San Francisco, Electrified and Quaking

1999-09-24 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

Well, it's perfectly possible for lightning to travel *between* clouds, so
the horizontal direction isn't surprising. It's well documented that the
intensity of lightning has been increasing at an alarming rate over the past
thirty years. But I keep remembering the Hopi prediction that before the end
of this world-age, the lightning will intensify greatly...

 -Original Message-
 From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 8:49 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [CTRL] San Francisco, Electrified and Quaking

  -Caveat Lector-

  Something is wrong (at least wronger than usual) here in the Bay Area
 ...
  First, really unparallelled thunder and lightning (I watched a
 massive
 lightning bolt travel HORIZONTALLY from horizon to horizon, SLOWLY) twice
 in
 two weeks, each time "explained" as a byproduct of a dying Pacific
 hurricane
 -- two different ones.
  Second, COINCIDING with a thunder-and-lightning display, an
 EARTHQUAKE
 of exactly the rare type that struck Taiwan -- arising near the SURFACE of
 the earth.
  Geez, I wonder if China is test-running some secret Tesla weaponry
 ...

snip

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[CTRL] Why I can't vote for Bush

1999-09-24 Thread Bill Richer

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 A
HREF="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_btl/19990910_xcbtl_why_i_cant.shtml
"Why I can't vote for Bush/A

FRIDAY
SEPTEMBER 10
1999
•

Joseph Farah
is editor of
WorldNetDaily.com
and
executive
director
of the
Western
Journalism
Center,
an independent
group of
investigative
reporters.

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 Why I can't vote for Bush

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America needs a radical change of direction. I feel certain the leading
candidate for president of the United States is incapable of providing the
leadership necessary to achieve an essential rededication to the
constitutional principles of limited government and individual rights.
That's why, under no circumstances, will I allow myself to vote for George W.
Bush for president of the United States. He is not qualified because he, like
so many other politicians today, does not believe in nor understand the
Constitution.

The final straw for me came when the Republican presidential candidate
announced that he would not even try to dismantle the U.S. Department of
Education if given the chance.

"I don't think it should be abolished," said the Texas governor. "It ought to
be made more effective."

For me, that is game, set, match. There's plenty more double-talk from
Double-U, but that's all I had to hear to know I will never, no matter who
runs against Bush, vote for him for president.

Just listen to this Clintonesque drivel: "The education department ought to
be a place for sound science, sound thought, and ought to recognize that
passing power back to the states and local authorities is the best way to
lead to education reform. I don't believe we ought to federalize education. I
trust local people to make the right decisions. But there is a place for the
federal government to make sure people don't get left behind."

Tell me, Double-U, where is that place for federal involvement in education
in the Constitution? Can you show us? Or is that no longer even relevant to
you and the party you represent?

Even if Double-U's rhetoric was correct, there is little hope he could be
trusted to carry out his word. In his 1994 campaign for governor, Bush said
he wanted to abolish the Texas Education Agency. He later modified that
position to abolishing only the regulatory functions of the agency after
learning a local agency is a required element of receiving federal funds.

In fact, Bush ended up backing efforts to increase the power of both the
state agency and the Texas education commissioner, who is appointed by the
governor.

Bush obviously has similar plans for the nation. He says he wants to reform
and expand the busybody Head Start preschool program to make it more
academic.

"The federal government spends a lot of money on Head Start. Head Start does
a good job of providing healthy meals. I believe it ought to be an education
program as well," Bush said. He wants the federal program reinvented as "a
platform for reading," whatever that means.

It's this kind of misguided and inexcusably fuzzy thinking that thoroughly
and unequivocally disqualifies Bush as the leader America desperately needs
for the future.

I know. I know. The obvious next question is: "OK, Joe, who are you going to
support? Who else can win? Isn't it better to have someone who might be
occasionally right on the issues than someone who is wrong every single
time?"

The answer is: "No, it's not better -- not at this critical time in America's
history."

There's been too much damage done to America in the last 30 years. Bolder and
more principled leadership is needed or this nation is going down the tubes.

If the choice is Al Gore or George W., there is really no choice at all. The
first will take you to hell in the fast lane, the other will take you there
in the slow lane. Either way, your destination is the same -- you're still on
the highway to hell.

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[CTRL] Russia Launches!

1999-09-24 Thread C Davis

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I dont know exactly what's happened, but a few minutes ago on Fox 7, in
Austin, Texas, it was announced that Russia had launched missiles at
Chechnea(Sorry for the incorrect spelling).
http://www.fox7.com

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Re: [CTRL] Russia Launches!

1999-09-24 Thread C Davis

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And now the story isnt there! What is going on?

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[CTRL] Russian Planes Launch New Strikes on Grozny

1999-09-24 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Russian Planes Launch New Strikes on Grozny
MOSCOW (Sept. 23) XINHUA - Russian warplanes carried out a second wave of
air strikes Thursday near Grozny, capital city of the breakaway republic,
hitting an oil refinery and causing fires, the Interfax news agency
reported.
Two flights of planes dropped bombs and fired missiles on Zavodskoi district
on Grozny's northern fringe and on the nearby village of Andreyevskaya
Dolina, Interfax said in a dispatch from Grozny.
Bombs hit an oil distribution station at a refinery, causing a massive fire.

Grozny was covered by thick clouds of smoke, but the city does not have
functioning equipment to fight the fires.
This was the second wave of air raids on Grozny Thursday. Federal planes
bombed the Grozny airport and destroyed an An-2 plane earlier in the day.
The Russian Defense Ministry said the plane had been used by Chechen
militants "for delivery of arms and ammunition across Chechen territory."
"The Air Force will continue attacking targets which gangs will be using in
their interests," Interfax quoted the ministry's press service as saying.
The headquarters of the federal force in the North Caucasus said earlier
that the air strikes were conducted over arms depots and a radar station at
the airport which militants had been using in their own interests.
"This radar tracked Russian planes' flights over Chechnya and supplied
information to the terrorists," Interfax quoted a source with the
headquarters as saying.
In addition, attacks were also made at a store of fuel and lubricants, arms
and ammunition depots, a power sub-station and an oil refinery, Interfax
said.
Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry is considering the possibility of
using heavy bombers capable of carrying more powerful weapons to deliver air
strikes against rebel bases in Chechnya.
Tactical bombers such as Tu-22m2 and Tu-22m3 may be deployed to deliver more
powerful air strikes, Interfax quoted ministry sources as saying.
Until recently, air strikes on rebel bases were mostly carried out by Su-24
frontline bombers and Su-25 attack planes.


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[CTRL] Fwd: Russian Laundering Scandal The Rabin Assassination

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan





In "Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin?", Barry Chamish briefly mentions an
intriguing twist on the Rabin assassination theory: that Rabin wasn't killed,
but merely faked his death.  This caught my eye, since I am slowly collecting
stories for a book, "The Feast of the Undead".  There's some interesting
evidence for the theory, such as reputed sighting of Rabin after his supposed
death, the extra-long time it took for his limo to reach the hospital (long
enough to drop off his body), and the fact that his very close friend Henry
Kissinger didn't bother to attend the funeral.

I was telling my pal Greg Bishop about this theory last night, and he asked
me why they would fake his death.  I suspected it would have something to do
with international drug laundering: I remember Chip Tatum included Rabin on
his Boss Hogg list of alleged drug-compromised politicians.

Lo and behold, what comes in the mail today?  Another fine piece of
investigation from Robert Parry and The Consortium.

Enjoy.  This should eventually be a chapter of my book, if I ever get around
to writing it.

Robert Sterling


Consortiumnews.com - http://www.consortiumnews.com

The investigations into the Bank of New York's role in laundering vast
sums of Russian money have ignored well-documented connections between a
bank principal, the CIA and the Israeli Labor Party.

The tie-in comes through one of the bank's owners, Bruce Rappaport, a
Swiss financier who was linked to a variety of secret operations during
the Reagan-Bush era. Those operations included a strange Iraqi pipeline
deal, the Iran-contra affair, sensitive U.S. Customs stings, the BCCI
scandal, the October Surprise case and a mysterious shipment of Israeli
weapons to Colombian drug kingpins.

Rappaport was known as one of CIA director William Casey's favorite golf
partners. Yet, when the New York Times profiled Rappaport and his hand in
the Bank of New York's Russian financial deals, the U.S. intelligence
connections were left out. Rappaport's fuller history can be read at
Consortiumnews.com, an online investigative magazine.

It's located at http://www.consortiumnews.com

This is a free site, but we urge those who wish to support our
investigative journalism to buy a copy of Robert Parry's important new
book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press $ 'Project Truth' for just
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(six issues), $25. Or do both at a special rate of $35.

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[CTRL] afp- Bin Laden was granted Bosnian passport: report

1999-09-24 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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===
The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU

SARAJEVO, Sept 24 (AFP) - Osama bin Laden, the Saudi billionaire
wanted by the United States for organising bloody terrorist attacks,
was granted a Bosnian passport in 1993 by the country's embassy in
Vienna, an independent weekly reported Friday.
   "Bosnian embassy in Vienna granted a passport to bin Laden in
1993," Dani magazine quoting anonymous sources said, emphasizing
that files and traces linked to his case have been recently
destroyed by the government.

Committee for Collecting Data on
Crimes Committed Against Humanity
and International Law

MUJAHEDDIN PRISONER CAMPS
IN THE MUNICIPALITY OF ZAVIDOVIcI

The 465 prisoner camps for Serbs in the territory of Bosnia-Herzegovina (for
which the Committee has thus far collected evidence of existence) included
two camps in the territory of the municipality of Zavidovici owned by
mujaheddins. They were located in the villages of Kamenica and Gostovici.
The individuals who fortunately survived the atrocities testify on what the
captured soldiers of the Army of Republika Srpska and civilians went through
during the imprisonment.

1
THE MUJAHEDDIN CAMP IN KAMENICA

1.1. Witness 249/97-4 , born in 1957, who was kept in this camp for 13 days,
states:
... On 17 or 18 September, 1995, I was captured and taken to the mujaheddin
camp located in the village of Kamenica near Zavidovici. P.M. from Kotor
Varo{, R.R from Banja Luka, G.G. from Banja Luka, P.N. from Banja Luka, S.
from Lijevce Polje, G. from Lakta{i, and N. from Bud`ak, were taken there
together with me.
We were brought to their camp, where we saw big, circular tents, in which
the mujaheddins stayed. I counted 29 tents, assessing that each could hold
40-60 men.
I was taken to a room on the upper floor of a house, where I saw three
mujaheddins, their heads wrapped up so that only their eyes could be seen.
They ordered me to sit on a slab. One of them took a full-steel rod,
diameter cca 2 cm, and started hitting me on my back and neck, until the rod
banded. Then the other flattened the rod with a hammer. He then took the
second, and then the third rod.
When the rods bent by the beating, they tied a wire around my neck, tying
its other end around my leg. They had taken our boots, so I was barefoot.
The end of the wire around my neck and leg was not insulated, while the
remaining part of the wire was not. I saw something like a transformer in
the room. One of the men took another wire connected to the transformer and
connected it with the wire that was tied around my neck and leg. As soon as
he did it, the electric shock made me faint. When I came around, they would
turn on electricity again. This was repeated several times and I lost
consciousness each time. The kept the electricity on for different
durations. The electric shock made me feel as if my tongue had become
shorter, and I started to choke.
When they were done with the electricity, they started hitting me with their
legs, and then one of them took me back to the ground floor, where my
friends were kept. After returning me downstairs, they took another prisoner
upstairs, so we all underwent the same torture.
According to my assessment, the mujaheddins were Pakistanis, Turks, Arabs
from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, but among them were also Arabs from
Germany and England.
I would also add that apart from these mujaheddins, there were also Bosnian
Muslim in the Kamenica prisoner camp. I remember a Gunic form the Novoselije
settlement in Banja Luka ...
1. 2. Witness 284/97-2, worker, born in 1961, states:
... I lived in Vozuca, the place where I was born. On 10 September, 1995,
early in the morning, soldiers of the Army of Bosnia-Herzegovina attacked
Vozuca and the civilian population, including me and other women, had to
flee. The next day, we were in the village of Kesten, where I was captured
at about 16.30 hrs., with a group of 60 people. The group consisted of
civilians, women and children, and some soldiers. We were taken prisoner by
mujaheddins and Bosnian Muslims.
After they captured us, they started beating us with their fists, legs,
rifle-butts and sticks. A mujaheddin hit me hard on the back with his rifle,
and then spit on me scolding my "chetnick mother".
I saw a captured Serb fall on his knees, after which the Muslim killed him
with a shot from automatic rifle.
About thirty of us from the village of Kesten, including me and two more
women (J.M. and G.B.), were taken from the village of Kesten to a mujaheddin
camp in the village of Kamenica near Zavidovici. The others were taken to
Tuzla.
They tied our legs and arms, and put some wrapping around our eyes.
The three of us were imprisoned in a wooden shed in Kamenica, while men were
locked up in a nearby barrack. I could not see anything because I was
blindfolded, but I concluded that it was a mujaheddin camp because they
spoke in a very bad Serbian language.
Throughout the 

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: URGENT/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent]

1999-09-24 Thread Dano

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I don't believe it. First nukes in U.S. cities and now
a month later this urgent warning of yet another terrorist
attack. I am reminded of a story...something about a boy
crying wolf...

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Re: [CTRL] PJB: Response to Republican Rivals

1999-09-24 Thread Bill

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History by Victor.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Buchanan made one very accurate statement  "... the West has failed to study
 history"

 And Pat Buchanan is among those who have failed...he views the scene in  the
 same  flawed political  framework.

 Here are some factors Pat should plug into his equation

 (l)  Financing of the SECOND Bolshevik Revolution  by Wall Street and the
 City of London.  Read the British Cabinet  papers, no longer secret.  Its all
 there..

 (2)  The Financing  of Hitler by the  same crowd  but now including the
 Bush-Harriman faction

 History as written is a dishonest facade and any policy derived from that
 facade.will give wrong answers.

 ASU
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Re: [CTRL] Chinese invasion thru Canada

1999-09-24 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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PM Chretien just announced that he was going to solve the problem once and
for all by ceding Vancouver Island to the Chinese as a "New Taiwan", as
long as Beijing recognizes the sovereignty of Taiwan in the east.
FWP.

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Bill Kingsbury wrote:

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  http://www.drudgereport.com/matt2.htm

  X DRUDGE REPORT
  X TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1999 22:10:13 ET X


  JOINT US/CANADA SPY VENTURE DETECTS CHINESE ALIENS

  The bulldog edition of Wednesday's SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER is
  reporting that the U.S.and Canada are cooperating in a joint spy
  venture to detect rampant Chinese smuggling off the Canadian coast.

  The POST-INTELLIGENCER'S Ed Offley and Joel Connelly are reporting
  that the two nations are working closely together to monitor the
  western coastline of Canada where over the last two months 600
  Chinese have been found on four ships.

  According to the paper, Canada and the U.S. "are using a network
  of spy satellites, underwater acoustic sensors and electronic
  interception techniques to track smuggling ships from Chinese
  ports."

  One U.S. Navy intelligence "official" confirmed the intelligence
  campaign, telling the paper:

  "There is an ongoing agreement between the U.S. Navy and the
  Canadian Navy to foster cooperation in intelligence in that part
  of the world."

  The co-venture is based at the Northwest Regional Naval
  Intelligence Center, which is located at Whidbey Island Naval Air
  Station, and is part of a longstanding intelligence relationship
  between the two countries.

  "During the Cold War, the United States developed overlapping
  surveillance systems to track the Soviet Navy and its nuclear
  submarine fleet in the Pacific, and many of those systems are
  still active."

  Developing...

  X X X X X



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  http://www.drudgereport.com for updates
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[CTRL] [FUTURE-CITIES] Mars City...and the Social Class War. (fwd)

1999-09-24 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:39:24 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [FUTURE-CITIES] Mars City...and the Social Class War.

From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A political after-thought on this is that technolords along with high
finance people may already be creating a "Mars City" within each nation
already. So much of high technology is "classified" because of its
military implications that they could already have Mars City designs on
the drawing board. You can do a lot with the tens of billions or more
which even the best of public accountants have no accounting for!
FWP.

--

The material below is from Chapter 13 of "Everyday Robots". In order to
understand the full argument as to why Mars City can be built now and is
within current technologies and budgets, the reader should also examine
the rest of Chapter 13 (44 k.) and Chapter 12
(Roboeconomics/Robopolitics), which is 37 k.
FWP.

--

Preceding units clipped

http://www.nas.com/venus

Jacque Fresco's Florida-based Venus Project provides a 48 minute video on
highly automated or totally automated Future Cities. The economic model is
called "resource-based economics" which is a good way of expressing the
idea that intelligent machines can take raw materials or starting
materials and then process them, step-by-step into all of the amenities of
life. Fresco is one of the great visionaries of our time, rightly
described by the editors of "The Futurist" magazine as in a league with
people like Buckminster Fuller.

http://www.freedomship.com

Richard Nixon's "Freedom Ship" captures the imagination as a giant city at
sea for 100,000 people which would, I expect be a sovereign state in its
own right. Would it be accepted for UN membership? Perhaps if it were to
purchase an island or claim a "near-island" (submerged island) in
international waters, it would be accepted. Freedom Ship is having some
success in pre-selling homes onboard.

http://www.new-utopia.org/new.html

Lazarus Long's project, despite the unlikely name (Utopia) is also having
some success in getting people to invest their money in a project to
develop a submerged "near-island" in the Caribbean. Also unlikely is the
fact that this is planned to be a principality with "Prince Lazarus" as
its supreme leader. Prince Lazarus is serious about having New Utopia
accepted for UN membership. He may succeed, allowing that there are many
different choices made by people as to their "way of life".

http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/~bat/sea-city.html

This is another City-at-Sea project, in this case for 30,000. Another
interesting feature is that it intends to maximize automation. While
automation is not a focus in projects like New Utopia, it is unlikely
that such a factor could be ignored in this era. Investors will bring it
up. Sea-City could do very well if some of the automation experts who
abound in UK should decide to back it.

http://www.ntticc.or.jp/special/utopia/model/prototype/scheme1_e.html

Here we have a proposal for a high tech model habitat with the backing of
a well recognized university (Waseda University). Despite another unlikely
name, "Mirage City", this is a project to watch.

http://www.juga.com

This project may signal the way planning for future cities and even new
sovereign nations will be done soon. The web site proposes to organize
5,000,000 people by Internet and when that is accomplished apply for UN
membership. So far they have almost 5,000 citizens signed up.

There are other projects along these lines and to keep up to date I would
suggest subscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is every reason to
expect substantial progress somewhere on the planet in planning such
cities and when that happens it will usher in a dramatic new era in global
designing and planning of new cities and states. The world population is
after all expected to keep increasing at 100,000,000/year for at least a
few decades and most of that will accrue to cities. Miscellaneous thoughts
and other new city projects can be found at
http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex. For example there is a link to the
new city, Cyberjaya being planned and built by the Malaysian Government.
Though such a government-backed high technology city is likely to be
cautious and conservative, it is almost certain to carry through to
completion. And yes, those words are "cautious and conservative" which
means there is a large technological lag between what technology can do
within current technologies and budgets and what governments and the
plutocracy which controls governments will allow in the public domain.
With the "Mars City" proposal below there are no such inhibitions.

Mars City

   Let me 

Re: [CTRL] Russian Planes Launch New Strikes on Grozny

1999-09-24 Thread Mark McHugh

 -Caveat Lector-

Tatman, Robert wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Russian Planes Launch New Strikes on Grozny
 MOSCOW (Sept. 23) XINHUA - Russian warplanes carried out a second wave of
 air strikes Thursday near Grozny, capital city of the breakaway republic,
[snip]

Wow.  What a strange coincidence.  Grozny means "terrible" in Russian, as in
Ivan Grozny, Ivan the Terrible.

--
Mark McHugh

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[CTRL] :/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent]

1999-09-24 Thread ASu2431426

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Count me as skeptical, very skeptical, about the Denver rumors.

About 12 months ago I had a FRANTIC phone call about  imminent CBW attack.
But this one said "dont tell anyone".  I didnt   And there is good reason we
should do nothing here.  Terrorists do NOT broadcast their plans.I
suspect we shall get more  frantic alarmism as we near 2000..



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Re: [CTRL] :/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent]

1999-09-24 Thread Tatman, Robert

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I agree...I suspect that these rumors are mostly designed to sell gas masks,
etc., to gullible paranoids. (Of course, they also have the side effect of
keeping the public in a state of perpetual fear, and cui bono?)

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  -Caveat Lector-

 Count me as skeptical, very skeptical, about the Denver rumors.

 About 12 months ago I had a FRANTIC phone call about  imminent CBW attack.
 But this one said "dont tell anyone".  I didnt   And there is good reason
 we
 should do nothing here.  Terrorists do NOT broadcast their plans.I
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[CTRL] FW: [Fwd: Unsettling prospect]

1999-09-24 Thread Dave

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forwarded

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


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From: Trudy  Paul Schuett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 8:56 AM
To: NCF list
Subject: [Fwd: Unsettling prospect]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This just came in. May be dis-information, maybe not. In any case, I
thought
 I would pass it on to you. Stay safe. If you know anyone in or around
Denver,
 let them know about this... as always, it's better to be SAFE than
sorry...
 I am working on updating the Quinn pages on the site. Should be done in a
 couple of days.
 Angie
 ---
 Date: 9/23/99  Denver/Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent
 We are forwarding this message from a trusted source in the Denver
area,
 who has provided much useful information to both "official" and unofficial
 uncompromised investigators: for example, recently in the Columbine school
 massacre and the murders of JFK Jr., wife and sister-in-law. --John Quinn
/
 NewsHawk Inc.
 - - - -
 I've received information today--Sept.23, 1999--from 2 of my sources,
 both of whom I trust, that the Denver Metro area will be hit with a
 Bio-Chemical attack sometime within the next month.
 I've known of Bio-Chemicals being stored in the Mountains just outside
 Denver, possibly in / on Mt. Evans, for quite some time. I've spent a lot
of
 time attempting to locate said Bio-Chemical weapons, and the terrorists
that
 hold them and guard them. They are a conglomerate of "terrorists" in that
 some are Mexican, some are Russian, some are Libyan, some are Afghani,
etc.
 We anticipated this attack closer to the Y2K deadline, but are not
 surprised at the accelerated date. We believe this will be used as the
excuse
 to declare Martial Law, and of course remove what freedoms we have left,
 after first killing between 300,000 - 400,000 people: population
reduction,
 in other words.
 Buy Gas masks and Bio-Chemical suits, now. As always, these plans CAN
be
 thwarted if we make this public enough, albeit, for a brief period of
time.
 Only God and his son can ultimately put a stop to these bastards. And they
 will, in their time.
 Anyway, please pass this on to everyone you can possibly think of an have
 them make this information known as publicly as possible. Also, I hold you
to
 your promise of my complete anonymity. Thanks.
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[CTRL] FW: PACIFICA - McChesney piece in The Nation

1999-09-24 Thread Dave

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forwarded.

Dave Hartley
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Subject: PACIFICA - McChesney piece in "The Nation"


 http://www.thenation.com.


FROM PACIFICA TO THE ATLANTIC


Robert W. McChesney

The summer of 1999 will be remembered by many progressives as the time of
the great KPFA lockout--when Pacifica's management tried to muzzle the
nation's oldest community radio station. The effort was notable for the
arrogance of the leaders of Pacifica's national board and its chairwoman,
Mary Frances Berry. While legally the board may hold all the cards, this
self-perpetuating and unaccountable body is politically and ethically
bankrupt. It offered no coherent rationale for the lockout and
avoided--indeed, sought to quash--open dialogue.

In the face of a popular uprising--10,000 people at a demonstration in
Berkeley in 1999!--Berry ended the lockout. But the situation is far from
secure. What's needed now is a formal commitment that there will be no
sale of KPFA or any of the four other Pacifica-owned stations. Berry and
the rest of the board must also start negotiations to establish a new
governing structure for the foundation--one that represents Pacifica's
diverse stakeholders: the paid and unpaid workers, the listeners and
potential listeners.

But even if a new governing structure is set up, some of the crucial
problems underlying the crisis will remain--for they are rooted in the
tragic history of US public broadcasting. All noncommercial radio (and
television) in the United States, including Pacifica, has grown up in the
shadow of the commercial broadcasters, who grabbed the airwaves back in
1934. Since then, there has been a tacit quid pro quo for getting
broadcast licenses: The noncommercial broadcasters would do no programming
that might compete directly with their ad-driven counterparts. Thus were
the commercial giants entitled to do whatever made them the most money,
while the noncommercial players were left to do programming that would
draw a negligible audience.

Things have been very different in much of the rest of the industrialized
world. In other nations public broadcasting has, at its best, gone
directly for a general audience, rather than serve whatever little niche
has been neglected by the big commercial broadcasters. Such noncommercial
players abroad have thus been free to entertain as many viewers and
listeners as they can, regardless of what their commercial rivals might be
doing. This has meant that systems like the BBC could sometimes generate
real mass enthusiasm for their fare--while also offering news and public
affairs programming superior to anything our networks, public or
commercial, have produced.

Since most of its content is not that popular, the US noncommercial system
garners little public funding, either through federal subsidy or
listener/viewer donations. This helps explain why all the public stations,
as well as the Pacifica-owned stations, have never established a secure
basis as noncommercial and nonprofit institutions. (This failure has also
intensified the pressure to solicit corporate "underwriting" in its
various forms--a move that always threatens to corrupt the content.)

Most public broadcasters, and many at Pacifica, have internalized their
forced move to the margins and now regard it as a virtue. Their job, they
proclaim, is to let the commercial media handle the masses, while they
serve the elite (PBS, NPR) or the left, the disfranchised and/or the
artistic community (Pacifica and community radio) with programming that is
not commercially viable. To try to break out of this box in any way
appears to be "selling out."

Berry has stated that her desire is to expand Pacifica's reach among
people of color. But the opposition to her actions by virtually all of
KPFA's minority programmers and active listeners, as well as the low
minority listenership at Houston's KPFT--a Pacifica station she does not
hassle--reveals how bogus her claim is. As at NPR and PBS, Berry's actual
plan to build Pacifica's audience appears to be marked by the conventional
elitist approach: Rather than deal directly with the public, Pacifica
looks to ratings-obsessed consultants oriented to the commercial system
and inclined to see the world as an array of advertising-defined
demographic blocs. Such audience expansion merely seeks out lucrative
niches not served by the commercial system and looks to please mainstream
foundation officers, potential underwriters and DC politicos. In such a
universe, Pacifica's renowned content--feisty, anticorporate,
antimilitarist--appears to be, at best, an unproductive nuisance.

Thus the fears of KPFA audience and workers--that Berry's plans for
"expanding" its audience must mean contracting 

Re: [CTRL] FW: [Fwd: Unsettling prospect]

1999-09-24 Thread ASu2431426

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If you have accurate information down to nationality of these terrorists I
trust you
 have already given  it to the FBI...this is the only organization  with the
capability to handle such a situation .if it exists.

You are not doing anybody a service spreading it over the Intenet.  This tips
off the terrorists .if they exist.

You are also providing  ammunition to those who want to censor the Intenet

ASU.

he

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[CTRL] Is this true guys???

1999-09-24 Thread earthman

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Is this true guys???

From:
http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/prediction/51/text-files/cooper2.txt

In the early 1940s, the I.G. Farben Chemical Company employed a Polish
salesman who sold cyanide to the Nazis for use in Auschwitz. The same
salesman also worked as a chemist in the manufacture of the poison gas.
This same cyanide gas along with Zyklon B and malathion was used to
exterminate millions of Jews and other groups. Their bodies were then
burned to ashes in the ovens. After the war the salesman, fearing for his
llfe, joined the Catholic Church and was ordained a priest in 1946. One of
his closest friends was Dr. Wolf Szmuness, the mastermind behind the
November/78 to October/79 and March/80 to October/81 experimental hepatitis
B vaccine trials conducted by the Center for Disease Control in New York,
San Francisco and four other American cities that loosed the plague of AIDS
upon the American people. The salesman was ordained Poland's youngest bishop
in 1958. After a 30-day reign his predecessor was assassinated and our
ex-cyanide gas salesman assumed the papacy as Pope John Paul II.



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Re: [CTRL] Is this true guys???

1999-09-24 Thread William Shannon

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I've heard this and assume that it's factual.

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world

1999-09-24 Thread Bill

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Enforcement is the nut thats for sure.  There are many
Voluntary Gays Celibates and Neuters around though.  Up
until this point forced population control has been called
Warwe haven't had one in a while except for Billys
charadesat least now we are talking about our destiny in
our hands instead of our destiny in the hands of puppet
masters...seems to be going that way, anyway.  It could and
probably will revert back with a bang though.  Vanity
strikes again.

Tenorlove wrote:

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 --- Sean McDougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am going to guess that your despisal of eco-minded individuals has
 lead you to not know many of them first hand. snip is it population
 control or population control advocates?

 I'll tell you about 2 incidents.

 1. One day I was out with my first child and a large pregnant belly. A
 woman I didn't even know walked up to me and blasted me for
 contributing to the world's overpopulation, saying that I was "wasting
 our precious Mother Earth's resources and exploiting poor people of
 color." This was a white woman with one child tagging along. I am part
 Lakota, mostly of European extraction, but 100% American since America
 is the land of my birth and culture. I found her remarks extremely
 offensive. First, walking up to a stranger and butting into personal
 business is a serious breach of etiquette, defined as simple
 consideration for others. Second, her remark struck me as racist, both
 against whites for reproducing, and against "people of color" for
 casting them in the role of eternal victims. Being part Lakota, and a
 woman, I could claim victimhood for myself, but I have chosen to be a
 person, not a victim.

 2. A woman who was once a close friend (we've grown apart over the
 years) told me she was an advocate of zero population growth. Her own
 (one of 2) daughter has 4 children. I asked her about that. She said
 that her daughter should not have had more than one child. This woman
 had previously expressed how hurt she was that her daughter no longer
 speaks to her. I wonder why...

 Yes, the message disturbs me. Which population is supposed to be
 reduced? Me? You? I keep seeing images of Hitler and Waco
 ENFORCED population control infringes on human freedom and human
 dignity as much as restrictions on freedoms of worship, association,
 and exchange of ideas. If you have further questions, I'm sure I'll
 read them on the list.

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[CTRL] School Of Assassins To Remain Funded-Congress Commitee

1999-09-24 Thread William Shannon

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Committee vote keeps School of the Americas open
09/23/1999
Nolan Walters
Staff Writer

WASHINGTON

Fort Benning's controversial School of the Americas got another year's
reprieve Wednesday after members of a Senate-House conference committee voted
not to cut funding for the school.

The key vote was an 8-to-7 decision by House members of the conference
committee not to pursue the funding cuts against the school -- even though
the full House had voted in favor of the cuts by a 33-vote margin in July.

All those voting to preserve the school's funding were Republicans, although
one Republican voted with six Democratic opponents of the school.

School of Americas officials were thrilled when told that they and their
school had survived by the narrowest of margins.

"We did? Hey!" shouted School of the Americas spokesman Nicholas Britto when
told by phone of the favorable vote.

Minutes later and out of breath from passing along word of victory to the
headquarters staff, Britto said, "We are very excited, and we feel that
finally the American people, through Congress, have decided that the school
is needed, and we're happy that it is over," he said.

Long-time opponents of the school, however, said that their campaign to close
the school -- as the foremost symbol of what they say is a misguided U.S.
policy in Latin America -- is far from over.

The opponents say the school has trained murderers and other human rights
violators who oppress their own people. The U.S. Army says the school is
helping to spread respect for human rights.

"This was disappointing. But we knew that we had to keep on doing what we
were doing anyway," said Carol Richardson, co-director and Washington
director of the protest group School of Americas Watch.

"If anything, this will energize everybody," she said. "And next year, we've
got to get a straight up or down vote on it. We can't mess around with this
behind-the-scenes thing."

Using similar words, Rep. Joe Moakley, D-Mass., the congressional leader of
school opponents, said, "I'm very disappointed, but I'm not surprised."

"More people are paying attention to this thing all the time, and someday
we'll get it closed," said Moakley, who'd introduced the original legislation
to cut the school's money.

School supporter Rep. Mac Collins, R-Hampton, whose district includes Fort
Benning, agreed that the fight isn't over. "We still have a long way to go"
to ensure the school's continued safety. But for now, he added, "That's good."

The key vote came shortly after the beginning of a Wednesday afternoon
meeting in a crowded conference room of the Capitol as tourists milled about
just yards away.

Members of both the House and Senate were meeting to work out differences in
their versions of next year's spending bills for foreign operations -- which
included about $2 million for the school.

The House had voted 230-197 in July to cut the fund that pays for foreign
students to come to the school. It was the first conclusive House vote
against the school.

The Senate, however, never took up the issue of the school, so its version of
next year's foreign operations spending plan maintained the same level as
before for the School of the Americas.

This was but one of dozens of differences between the Senate and House
versions of the spending bill that the conference committee had to resolve.

The vote itself took only a couple minutes.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., an opponent of the school, was preparing to make a
motion for the Senate members to vote on accepting the House position -- that
is, cutting the school's funding.

But before he could act, Rep. Sonny Callahan, R-Mobile, Ala., the chairman of
the House appropriations subcommittee on foreign affairs and a school
supporter, beat him to the punch. He persuaded the House members themselves
to ignore the vote of the House and accept the Senate's position -- thereby
leaving funding unchanged.

Callahan said that if the money were cut from the foreign operations budget
that the Pentagon would probably shift money from another fund and nothing
would change at the school.

However, Callahan warned the committee members that they would be giving away
control over the program by doing so.

"That seems to take some of the wind out of their sails," said Rep. Jack
Kingston, R-Savannah, the only Georgian on the conference committee and a
supporter of the school.

After the vote, Leahy seemed to agree, saying that "the Pentagon would just
stick it (the money) back in another program." He also said that a straight
up-or-down vote on the school might be the best course for opponents.

But that isn't likely to happen at least until next year.

Voting to sustain the earlier House vote to cut the school's funding were:
Reps. John Porter, R-Ill., Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Nita Lowey, D-N.Y., Jesse
Jackson Jr., D-Ill., Dale Kildee, D-Mich., Martin Sabo, D-Minn., and David
Obey, D-Wis.

Vote not to sustain the House vote and maintain funding 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2

1999-09-24 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 990924b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

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: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hyst-
erical naked, dragging themselves thru the negro streets at dawn looking for
an angry fix, angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connect-
ion to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Tokyou Wank: http://www.adgnet.or.jp/~wank/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Is There Any Linkage Between Recent Natural Disasters? WASHINGTON (CNN)
  When waves of natural disasters strike worldwide, it's only natural for
  people to wonder if there's a link between the huge forces of nature. Was
  Hurricane Floyd related to a monster typhoon battering Hong Kong the same
  week? Did the deadly earthquake in Turkey pull the seismic trigger for the
  quake in Taiwan? Some answers can be found at the Lamont-Doherty Earth
  Observatory, where specialists track what happens beneath Earth's surface
  and above it. http://www.sightings.com/earthchanges/naturaldisaster_e.htm

: Are waves of disaster caused by human conspiracy, alien mechanisms, divine
intervention, bad karma, microscopic radioactive spiders from the galactic
core  http://www.sonic.net/~ric/music/mysongs2.htm#micr  or me? Why not?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Unusually Hot, Cold Oceans Create Corridor For More Storms. (SD) Three
  current storms captured by a NASA satellite show how unusual sea temp-
  eratures are creating a clear corridor in the Atlantic for more to come.
  Make way: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/09/990923072537.htm

: Are storm paths created by planetary dynamics, weather-control programs,
deities/demons, Reptilioids/Republicans, robots, me? Do you direct storms?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Taiwan Moon Festival is mainly sad. CHUNGLIAO (AP)  Thousands of Taiwanese
  left homeless by this week's deadly earthquake have little to celebrate as
  they mark one of their most important holidays, the Autumn Moon Festival.
  People traditionally go outside to gaze at the moon, but this year many
  will be looking to the skies from tent cities quickly erected after more
  than 6,000 homes on the island were destroyed. The festival falls in the
  middle of the eighth lunar Chinese month, when the moon is supposed to be
  at its fullest. With a ripe, round moon considered a symbol of happiness,
  the national holiday is also a time for family reunions. Lucky to be alive
  - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561300600-0d2

: Do disasters inconveniently occur on your festival days? Do your festivals
cause natural disasters? Were your festivals started by humans, aliens, me?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# First Sea-Level Photos Of Massive Antarctic Iceberg. Digital photographs
  of iceberg B-10-A are now available from the National Science Foundation
  (NSF). B-10-A is a massive iceberg that is drifting towards South America
  from Antarctica and may threaten shipping lanes around Cape Horn. Run!
  Run! http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/09/990924075407.htm

: Do you eagerly await numerous swarms of massive icebergs roaming the seas
as global warming increases? Is this a good way to interdict shipping? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Clifford Stone - 21 Years In Army UFO Recovery / National Security. When 1
  was 7 1 had my first close encounter with a UFO, followed by interactions
  with alien entities. I served in the Army for over 2 1 years. At first, 1
  was reluctant, then afraid, then disillusioned by the way the Government
  handles the subject. http://utenti.tripod.it/paolaharris/national.html

: Have you recovered any UFOs lately? When did you first encounter aliens?
Is govt disillusioning? Did you ever have illusions? Did the Army cure them?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Going gooey - liquid genius of tomorrow's robots. FORGET A SOPHISTICATED
  BRAIN. To find its way around, all a robot needs is a headful of chemical
  goo. The idea that a liquid or gel can produce "intelligent" behaviour
  without any form of number crunching depends upon the computational and
  problem-solving properties of a strange class of chemical reactions.
  Think about it: http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19990925/newsstory3.html

: Is your brain gooey? Have you looked lately? Do you produce intelligent
behaviours? Do you crunch numbers? If you're gooey, how loud do you crunch?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Chemists Describe "Fluorescent" Method For DNA Computing. Duke U. chemists
  versed at conducting large numbers of simultaneous DNA reactions on the
  surfaces of tiny glass microchips have demonstrated how to use a recent
  modification of this technique as a precise molecular computer. Think'n'
  glow: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/09/990924075458.htm

: Does your DNA structure 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #4

1999-09-24 Thread ric carter

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# Scientologists trial ends. MARSEILLE, France (AP) The fraud trial of seven
  Scientologists concluded Thursday as the defense asked the court to ignore
  the anti-Scientology rhetoric strong in France and to drop all charges
  arguing that "fraud cannot exist in the domain of religion." Huh? How's
  that? See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561299610-b20

: Are no/some/all religions fraudulent? Is religion so inherently bogus that
believers deserve what happens to them? Have you defrauded believers lately?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# HERBAL DIET SUPPLEMENT COULD BE DANGEROUS. An ingredient in many popular
  herbal supplements has been associated with a number of illnesses and
  deaths in users. One poison control center has even issued a warning
  about ephedrine, calling it extremely dangerous. Mormon Tea kills:
  http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17147

: Do you pick your own ephedra plants to get your stimulant fix? Have you
ever brewed Mormon Tea? Do you see visions? Do you want to breed and breed?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Spider-woman nabbed by customs. FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) Customs cops made
  a huge capture of illegal passengers at Frankfurt's airport: 1,300 hairy
  Mexican bird hidden in the luggage of a French woman. The woman was busted
  for smuggling a protected species; the estimated value of the spiders was
  $14,000. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561306658-850

: Do you smuggle/worship/eat spiders? Do spiders worship you? What rituals
do you perform with your spiders? Do you get naked? Do they crawl over you?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# MOONSTRUCK. Brian Trochelmann pleaded guilty Thursday and may face up to
  5 years in prison for trying to sell a fake moon rock. Backyard geology:
  http://wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/story/21935.html
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/10/odd-crime-moonrock

: Have you falsified any interplanetary artifacts lately? Were you caught??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Gorilla born captive turns 40. BASEL, Switz. (AP) The 1st gorilla born in
  captivity in Europe celebrated her 40th birthday Thursday. Goma was born
  at Basel Zoo in 1959 and was raised for her first two years by the zoo
  director and his family amid wide public interest. Midlife crisis?
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561291520-5ad

: Were you born in captivity? Are you held against your will by superior(?)
beings? Do they observe you constantly? Do you resent them? Do you care??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Tiny Plane Closes On Military Goal For Size  Cost. A U.Florida aerospace
  engineering team is a step closer to reaching the ambitious goals of a
  military research program aimed at developing tiny, affordable airplanes
  for use in battlefield surveillance and other military situations. Try
  aerobots: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/09/990923084436.htm

: Have you developed any tiny aircraft lately? Do you use them for espion-
age, attacks, smuggling? Do you use alien technology, antigravity, Xfields?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Your own private air scooter, backed by NASA. While it may be a few years
  before we all buzz around with Lost in Space-style jet packs, a small Cal-
  ifornia firm recently got a boost in its effort to provide such a craft.
  The boost came in a vote of confidence from NASA, which will support the
  firm's efforts. http://www.explorezone.com/archives/99_09/24_solotrek.htm

: Would you like to shoot around in the air in a jet pack? If millions of
people are buzzing around, how many will crash into each other? Is it fun?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# MOSCOW MAYOR'S SITE: HACKSKI'D! Yuri Luzhkov, mayor of Moscow, is quickly
  becoming one of Russia's most prominent politicians... and hackers prey.
  http://wired.com/news/news/politics/story/21931.html
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/10/odd-election

# CRACKING FOR THE MAN. There are plenty of ex-hackers hanging around
  corporate America these days, says DefCon's founder. Breaking into
  networks is always better when you're paid for it. Always? Really?
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/business/story/21879.html

: Do you crack nets for fun, money, obligation, guilt, ideology, randomness?
Do you hack/crack/infest political/govt/military/biz sites? Which are best?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Miami stone circle examined. MIAMI (AP) A stone circle at the mouth of the
  Miami River marks a place where people gathered hundreds of years ago to
  exchange goods and build arts  crafts. Evidence shows ancient Miamians
  maintained robust trade and cultural links with distant tribes. And beach
  

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3

1999-09-24 Thread ric carter

 -Caveat Lector-

SkeptiNews 990924c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: Not too many angelheaded hipsters were harmed to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Garden of Origami: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~vbeatty/origami/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Health secrets in ancient Egyptian eye shadow. PARIS (CNN) -- In ancient
  Egypt, everyone wore eye make up -- men, women and children of all castes.
  Scientists now think the cosmetics may have had as much to do with health
  as with beauty or style. Egyptologists  chemists came to that conclusion
  after analyzing the Louvre's collection of 4,000-year-old pots once used
  in Egyptian makeup kits. They found chemical compounds that were used
  thousands of years later by the Greeks and Romans to treat infectious
  eye diseases. http://cnn.com/STYLE/9909/22/eygptian.eyes/index.html

: Do you use cosmetics for medical purposes, drugs for cosmetic purposes?
Does heroin keep you attractively slender? Does your makeup prevent AIDS?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Soccer Team Unveils 'Official Condom'. COVENTRY, UK (Reuters) Coventry
  City have become the first English premier league side to launch an
  official club condom. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/10/odd-condom

: Do all belief systems [religious, economic, political, artistic, athletic]
require official condoms? Should you be safely fucked by your beliefs? How?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# New "Magic Hula" just might cure what ails you. SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -
  This isn't your parents' HulaHoop. A South Korean entrepreneur has updated
  the classic toy, adding small molded knobs to the inside edge of the ring,
  aimed at providing a mini-massage and supposed therapeutic effects. ShaKE
  iT BabY, YEeeAh!: http://cnn.com/ASIANOW/east/9909/16/fringe/magic.hoop/

: Do you put magnets inside your Hula-Hoops for medicinal/sexual purposes?
What are the latest medical advances in toys? Have you cured your acne yet?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# MORE THAN 6 BILLION SERVED. Mother Nature will soon have more than
  6 billion mouths to feed. Agricultural technology is improving, but
  food production is falling. Still, not everybody's worried. Except
  me, maybe. http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/21927.html

: Are you healthy, wealthy, wise, well-fed? Will you continue to be into the
indefinite future? Will anyone else? How? Magic? Tech? Divine intervention?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Husband And Wife Decide To Change Sex. BUDAPEST (Reuters) A Hungarian
  husband and wife have decided literally to trade places and each is now
  undergoing a sex change operation at the local hospital. Confused? Well,
  THEY aren't. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/10/odd-sexchange

: When will transgenderism become routine, mandatory? Can you be a complete
person if you haven't been all genders, all races, several varied species?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# THE 'ARCOLOGY' OF CYBERSPACE. Architect Paolo Soleri reprises his Paradox
  conference at the Arcosanti project space. Participants hope less fur will
  fly this year. http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21920.html

: Would you like to restructure cyberspace, problem space, mental space? Do
you have any experience messing up spaces? Have you ruined much space yet??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Entrepreneurs study space tourism. LOS ANGELES (AP) Space, tourism's final
  frontier. As NASA builds the international space station high above Earth,
  private lodging  travel companies are taking a serious look at orbiting
  hotels etc. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561288044-d50

: How many prostitutes would a free-fall or low-gravity hotel/resort need?
How fast would they wear out? How much will you pay for sex in space? When?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# Arafat to UN: back Palestine independence - UN mumbles something:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561301919-644
@ Geronimo captured: http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/B/geronimo/geronixx.htm
@ BraveNewChina - eugenics redux: http://christianity.net/bc/9B5/9B5028.html

@ US Naval Observatory: http://www.usno.navy.mil/
# Alien Earths - Have our planet's alter egos popped up in outer space?
  http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19990925/newsstory8.html
# High lights - Superflares may point the way to distant solar systems:
  http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19990925/newsstory9.html

@ Understanding Color: http://library.advanced.org/50065/colorj/
# Mean machines - New efficient turbines will slash greenhouse emissions:
  http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19990925/newsstory5.html
# False trails - You can't tell a dinosaur from its tracks:
  http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19990925/newsstory6.html

@ The Van Gogh Museum: http://209.249.169.110/ehp.html
# Dutch museum hopes to quash rumors - real Van Goghs, not fakes:
  

[CTRL] Fw: Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord

1999-09-24 Thread Ric Carter

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-=-  "Why am I seething with this animosity"  -=-

The Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord

1.  My Legions of Terror will have helmets with clear plexiglass visors,
not face-concealing ones.
2.  My ventilation ducts will be too small to crawl through.
3.  My noble half-brother whose throne I usurped will be killed, not kept
anonymously imprisoned in a forgotten cell of my dungeon.
4.  Shooting is not too good for my enemies.
5.  The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the
Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of
Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the
object which is my one weakness.
6.  I will not gloat over my enemies' predicament before killing them.
7.  When I've captured my adversary and he says, "Look, before you kill
me, will you at least tell me what this is all about?" I'll say, "No."
and shoot him. No, on second thought I'll shoot him then say "No."
8.  After I kidnap the beautiful princess, we will be married immediately
in a quiet civil ceremony, not a lavish spectacle in three weeks' time
during which the final phase of my plan will be carried out.
9.  I will not include a self-destruct mechanism unless absolutely
necessary. If it is necessary, it will not be a large red button
labelled "Danger: Do Not Push". The big red button marked "Do Not Push"
will instead trigger a spray of bullets on anyone stupid enough to
disregard it. Similarly, the ON/OFF switch will not clearly be labelled
as such.
10. I will not interrogate my enemies in the inner sanctum -- a small
hotel well outside my borders will work just as well.

11. I will be secure in my superiority. Therefore, I will feel no need
to prove it by leaving clues in the form of riddles or leaving my weaker
enemies alive to show they pose no threat.
12. One of my advisors will be an average five-year-old child. Any flaws
in my plan that he is able to spot will be corrected before
implementation.
13. All slain enemies will be cremated, or at least have several rounds
of ammunition emptied into them, not left for dead at the bottom of the
cliff. The announcement of their deaths, as well as any accompanying
celebration, will be deferred until after the aforementioned disposal.
14. The hero is not entitled to a last kiss, a last cigarette, or any
other form of last request.
15. I will never employ any device with a digital countdown. If I find
that such a device is absolutely unavoidable, I will set it to activate
when the counter reaches 117 and the hero is just putting his plan into
operation.
16. I will never utter the sentence "But before I kill you, there's just
one thing I want to know."
17. When I employ people as advisors, I will occasionally listen to
their advice.
18. I will not have a son. Although his laughably under-planned attempt
to usurp power would easily fail, it would provide a fatal distraction
at a crucial point in time.
19. I will not have a daughter. She would be as beautiful as she was
evil, but one look at the hero's rugged countenance and she'd betray her
own father.
20. Despite its proven stress-relieving effect, I will not indulge in
maniacal laughter. When so occupied, it's too easy to miss unexpected
developments that a more attentive individual could adjust to
accordingly.

21. I will hire a talented fashion designer to create original uniforms
for my Legions of Terror, as opposed to some cheap knock-offs that make
them look like Nazi stormtroopers, Roman footsoldiers, or savage Mongol
hordes. All were eventually defeated and I want my troops to have a more
positive mind-set.
22. No matter how tempted I am with the prospect of unlimited power, I
will not consume any energy field bigger than my head.
23. I will keep a special cache of low-tech weapons and train my troops
in their use. That way -- even if the heroes manage to neutralize my
power generator and/or render the standard-issue energy weapons useless
-- my troops will not be overrun by a handful of savages armed with
spears and rocks.
24. I will maintain a realistic assessment of my strengths and
weaknesses. Even though this takes some of the fun out of the job, at
least I will never utter the line "No, this cannot be! I AM
INVINCIBLE!!!" (After that, death is usually instantaneous.)
25. No matter how well it would perform, I will never construct any sort
of machinery which is completely indestructible except for one small and
virtually inaccessible vulnerable spot.
26. No matter how attractive certain members of the rebellion are, there
is probably someone just as attractive who is not desperate to kill me.
Therefore, I will think twice before ordering a prisoner sent to my
bedchamber.
27. I will never build 

Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) [BRIGADE] PJB: Response to Republican Rivals

1999-09-24 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/24/99 11:30:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 "Today, the United States is handing out war guarantees all over Eastern
  Europe, guarantees a future generation of Americans may refuse to honor,
  guarantees that are driving a defeated, demoralized, divided and
  democratic Russia, with 20,000 nuclear weapons, straight into the arms of
  a Chinese Communist regime whose rulers bristle with hatred and resentment
  at hubristic American attempts to create some arrogant 'global hegemony.'


He sounds like he could be a member of WACL (Willoughby's group talked about
on list recently).  His emphasis on these areas indicates renewed military
expenditure.  His answers on the e-chat that were posted earlier today (or
last night) by someone are also informative.  When asked how he would
preserve us from the police state he said the exact pat answer everyone does,
that he would uphold the constitution just as his oath of office requires.
So we are to believe HIM but not everyone else who has taken the same oath
and who have walked all over the document.

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[CTRL] Fw: What's New for Sep 24, 1999

1999-09-24 Thread CobolMage

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WHAT'S NEW   Robert L. Park   Friday, 24 Sep 99   Washington, DC

1. CTBT: SENATE DEMOCRATS ABANDON THE BIG PUSH.  Just two weeks
ago, Byron Dorgan (D-ND) was threatening to chain himself to the
tracks to block other Senate business unless the test ban was put
on the agenda (WN 10 Sep 99).  But a week ago, Jesse Helms (R-NC)
hinted he would be willing to have a quick vote (WN 17 Sep 99).
Did that mean Helms had the votes to kill it?  Democrats weren't
taking any chances. On Wednesday, Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-
SD) acknowledged that the big push in the Senate is over for now.
"It isn't that we've forgotten about the test ban," Daschle told
reporters, "it's just that we feel strongly about the importance
of getting appropriations bills done on time as well."  But it's
not over for everyone.  Secretary of State Madeleine Albright,
slammed treaty opponents: "They have failed to explain how our
security can be damaged by asking others to end testing, as we
have already done, and accept intrusive monitoring as well."

2. TRAIN WRECK: APPROPRIATIONS BILLS AREN'T GETTING DONE EITHER.
The Senate Appropriations Committee approved an FY 2K funding
bill that would provide everything the President requested for
NSF and NASA.  That's very good news of course, even though a
substantial share of NASA's money is earmarked for dubious
projects in the home states of appropriators (WN 27 Aug 99), but
that's not the end of the story.  The bill must survive attempts
to amend it on the Senate floor and then be reconciled with the
House version. There's the rub.  House and Senate totals for the
bill differ widely, presenting conferees with an impossible task
at time when relations between the chambers are fractious.

3. PERPETUUM MOBILE: BETTING AGAINST THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS.
Most free energy scams invoke outlandish new physics: cold
fusion, hydrinos, zero-point energy, gravity shields, antimatter.
But there are also throwbacks to the 19th Century that directly
challenge the laws of thermodynamics.  Physics Today carried a
full-page ad for Entropy Systems, Inc. describing a heat engine
that runs off ambient heat.  It's hardly a new idea.  Two years
ago Better World Technologies was touting the "Fisher engine"
that violated the Second Law (WN 18 Jul 97). But it wasn't new
then either--it was the "zero motor," invented by John Gamgee in
1880.  It didn't work then either, but Gamgee sold it to the U.S.
Navy anyway. Better World Technologies quietly dropped the Fisher
Engine, but if they couldn't get around the Second Law, how about
the First?  In a full-page ad in the Wall Street Journal last
Friday, BWT announced 45 FREE meetings across the country to
demonstrate free energy using "Counter Rotation" technology.

4. POLITICS: SENSENBRENNER IS HONORED AS "CHAMPION OF SCIENCE."
The award was made by the Science Coalition.  Mr. Sensenbrenner
sought to block construction of the spallation neutron source (WN
2 Apr 99) and opposed the science doubling bill (WN 5 Mar 99).

THE AMERICAN PHYSICAL SOCIETY (Note: Opinions are the author's
and are not necessarily shared by the APS, but they should be.)

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spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1

1999-09-24 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990924a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: Not many alien abductees were painfully probed to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ PocketMonkey! http://www.minordemons.com/pocketmonkey/index.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ It has been some time since we have been hearing the expression fin de
  siecle, the end of the century. Some people say that when we come to the
  end of the century, many things will take place including perhaps the
  destruction of the universe itself. What is the Buddhist teaching with
  regard to fin de siecle? http://www.semui.co.jp/hosshinji/HEfset1.html

: Do you worry about the end of the century, the millennium, time itself? Do
you get good answers from Buddhists, Taoists, Xians, Discordians, Sikhs, me?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Banned sect facing prosecution. BEIJING (AP)  China issued new regulations
  to tighten control over the exercises on which the Falun Gong movement is
  partly based. The widely practiced slow-motion exercises called qigong may
  not be practiced in govt or military institutions, embassies, airports,
  train or bus stations, ports, streets or other "important public places."
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561296441-098

: Do you ritually exercise in public? Are you subversive? Would you perform
jumping-jacks, push-ups, deep-knee thrusts while standing in line, waiting
in an airport or courtroom or consulate? Should there be laws against this?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Jesux (pronounced Hay-sooks) is a new Linux distribution for Christian
  hackers, schools, families, and churches." It optionally disables logins
  on Sundays, doesn't include sendmail cause it was written by a homosexual,
  and doesn't include any encryption... because "Christians have nothing to
  hide". Sweet Jesus. http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Node/4081/
# Feds  Linux: http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/24/linux.for.feds.idg/

: Is your software damned? Can it be saved? Have you rewritten software to
accommodate the doctrines of y'r belief system? Does it crash? Is it damned?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Ted Kennedy's house to be razed for bad karma. The Hong Kong billionaire
  who bought Kennedy's Virginia mansion in 1997 sez the feng shui's negative
  around the place, so it'll be bulldozed. The spiritual balance is fucked:
  http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/nat/kenn09241999.htm

: Does your home have bad karma, unbalanced feng shui, ghosts? Should it be
demolished? Should it be demolished anyway, just because you don't like it?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ CIRCLE SUPPERS. As liberals and radicals, we are trained from day one of
  our freshman year of college that religion, particularly Christianity, is
  the most destructive force the world has ever known. It is evil incarnate,
  inspiring evil deeds the world over. http://www.wench.com/features/circle/

: Is religion evil, good, ambiguous, unknowable? Were you trained to regard
religion in any light? Can you be reprogrammed? Do you inspire evil deeds??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Mayor Rudy's Rant: No Dead Pigs in My Museum! (TIME) A controversial new
  exhibit once again raises the issue of govt control over publicly funded
  art. http://www.pathfinder.com/time/daily/0,2960,31426-101990923,00.html
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/story/21930.html

: Do you know art when you see it? Do voices in your head tell you? Do you
use dead pigs in your art? Do voices in your head tell you? Are you a dead
pig? Do you exercise govt control over art? Does your art control a govt?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Corporate media 99% wrong about Columbine, as it turns out: Sensational
  comments attributed to the killers - many from single, hysterical students
  fleeing the building early in the siege - were broadcast on national TV
  even as events unfolded, and soon took on the authority of fact.
  http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/23/columbine/print.html

: Do you distort the news? Intentionally/otherwise? Are truth/reality quite
irrelevant to the biz of selling audiences to advertisers? How are profits?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

TimeLinks:

@ Waco - As Janet Reno reopens an inquiry into the raid, we look back at
  the events of 1993. http://pathfinder.com/time/daily/newsfiles/waco
@ Guns and Violence - The story of America and the gun:
  http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/daily/special/denvershooting/
@ Campaign 2000 - A guide to the first national political race of the new
  millennium: http://www.pathfinder.com/time/daily/special/election/

@ The Genetics Revolution - From cloning to designer babies and plants,
  the story of the new science set to profoundly change our lives:
  http://www.pathfinder.com/time/daily/special/genetics/

@ The Papacy - The state of the Catholic Church and its Pope at 

Re: [CTRL] Deceptive IRS Code Words

1999-09-24 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/24/99 1:01:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Deceptive IRS Code Words

  "Income," "Person," "Taxpayer," "Shall," and "Must."

snip

I love these posts about the IRS (and the ones on the Federal Reserve).  I
don't mean that sarcastically, I really do love reading these things it is
quite informative.  I do feel a little sad for those people who believe that
they offer them any ability to "get out of" paying their taxes.  You see,
everything that is stated in this post is probably one hundred percent true.
It is at least partially true, BUT and this is the key point, you would never
win any case against the IRS for these reasons.  The courts are ultimately
the ones who would decide any issue involved and they always side with the
IRS in all matters of "interpretation."  They have addressed many of these
items before and there are rulings reflecting that.  Read them for their
historic significance, but don't think you just got your ticket to economic
freedom.

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==
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and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
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[CTRL] Self Serving Myths Regarding Columbine.

1999-09-24 Thread William Shannon

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Excerpted From www.salon.com

The biggest myths about the tragedy have to do with the question of who
Harris and Klebold were really targeting in their rampage. Jocks,
African-Americans and Christians have been widely described as their chief
targets. Not a scrap of evidence supports that conclusion. In addition to
voluminous evidence from the scene, Harris left behind a wealth of detailed
plans and commentary making their targets plain.

"It's pretty clear now that the initial plan was to have the two propane
bombs they put in the cafeteria go off," a top investigator said. "And that's
as indiscriminate as you can get. Every kid killed was a target of
opportunity," not singled out to settle a score, he said.

Battan called their behavior random: "Sticking a gun underneath a table and
firing -- they didn't even know who was under that table."

The jock myth grew out of now-legendary reports that the killers began their
library killing spree with the demand: "All jocks stand up!" But it never
happened, multiple sources confirmed. The notion that the pair was targeting
jocks didn't even pass the initial smell test, Battan said: "How many of the
jocks hang out in the library at lunch time?" "They knew where the gym was,"
another investigator added.

Likewise, Isaiah Shoels' death was unrelated to his race, investigators
insisted. Early reports had the killers searching him out, but there was no
evidence that such a hunt occurred. "[Every] young boy or girl happened to be
at the wrong place at the wrong time, including Isaiah Shoels," one said.
Eyewitnesses disagreed about whether Harris and Klebold called him a "nigger"
while they gunned him down, but if so, it was clearly a cruel taunt rather
than a motive for his murder.

But cooperative sources quickly clammed up when questioned about the most
celebrated Columbine story of all, immortalized this month in Misty Bernall's
bestseller, "She Said Yes: The Unlikely Martyrdom of Cassie Bernall." "This
is just too sensitive," a key source said, insisting on anonymity even for
that statement. According to Misty Bernall's book, which has energized
Christian youth movements around the world, the killers put a gun to her
daughter Cassie's head and asked if she believed in God. When she said yes,
they blew her away.

But while no one would go on the record, key investigators made it clear that
an alternate scenario is far more likely: The killers asked another girl,
Valeen Schnurr, a similar question, then shot her, and she lived to tell
about it. Schnurr's story was then apparently misattributed to Cassie.

"Many of the kids were actually hiding under desks and hearing only bits and
fragments of the conversation," one investigator explained. "It appears that
exactly who they taunted, what questions were asked and who replied what may
never be crystal clear." And even if it is clear, investigators clearly don't
intend to tell. They cited the tense political climate around the story in
this heavily evangelical community, as well as the potential embarrassment to
Cassie's family, uniformly describing the Bernalls as sincere victims who may
have been misinformed "through no malicious intent."

But investigators were willing to say that whichever girl was asked about her
faith, her life did not hinge on her answer. One key investigator said there
is no evidence the outcome would have been any different if she had denied
she believed in God.

The bottom line, investigators insist, is that regardless of which spiteful
jibes the killers tossed about during the shooting spree, none of the taunts
bore any relation to their motives. "Were there things said about jocks?"
Battan asked. "Probably. About God? Probably. Was there a 'nigger' comment?
Probably. But that's not what it was about." Investigators agree it was about
hate. "We can tell you why they did it, because they tell us why they're
going to do it," a key source said. "They did it because they were consumed
with hate."

"They hated everybody and everything," echoed Division Chief John Kiekbusch,
the ranking officer overseeing the case.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Know the Signs]

1999-09-24 Thread Bill

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psyberdude wrote:

Know the Signs


  SCAPEGOATING - Blaming social problems on a
  cultural, racial, or behavioral group.

  PREJUDICE - Selling the public on the idea that
  all members of the targeted group are "bad" people.

  LIES - "Facts," which cannot be verified, and
  pseudo-scientific studies are used as propaganda
  against the targeted group. History is rewritten.

  NO PUBLIC DEBATE - "These people have no right
  to have their viewpoint aired." and "Anyone who
  disagrees or questions us must be one of them."

  DEHUMANIZATION - Characterizing all members of the
  target group as subhuman and typically capable of
  monstrous deeds and crimes.

  PROTECT OUR CHILDREN - "They corrupt, seduce and
  destroy our children."

  CIVIL LIBERTIES SACRIFICED - "We must give up some
  of our freedom, liberty and rights in order to
  combat this menace to society."

  LEGAL DISCRIMINATION - Laws criminalize members of
  the targeted group who may be denied jobs, the right
  to own property, or may be restricted to were they go.

  INFORMERS - Citizens are urged to "turn in" their
  neighbors, friends, co-workers and even family members.

  SECRET POLICE - Non-uniformed police squads set up
  to wage war on the targeted group utilizing deception,
  infiltration, espionage and entrapment.

  CONFISCATION OF PROPERTY - Property and assets of
  members of the targeted group are seized. Property
  may be divided between the informer and the state.

  REMOVAL FROM SOCIETY - Prisons, "hospitals,"
  "rehabilitation camps," executions, genocide
  ( "kill them all" ).


  RECOGNIZE THE "WAR ON DRUGS" FOR WHAT IT IS.

  Suitable for display in Patriotic workplaces,
  homes and public ways. Please redistribute
  this document as much as possible!!!

  "LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS."

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Re: [CTRL] Things Are Gonna Slide! -various

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-09-24 11:38:10 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ... Aryan Nations, run by 81 year old Richard Butler. (Yahoo quotes Butler
as saying he had not seen or heard from Furrow, a former aerospace engineer,
since 1994 or 1995. "He was a good soldier at that time," says Butler.)
Pages 136-7 of Maury Island UFO have the Reverend Bob LeRoy talking
bout how Butler and William Gale started the New Identity movement under
Wesley Swift in California. Gale worked for Hughes aircraft and was part of
Charles Willoughby's spy net.  According to Dick Russell (p. 195 in Man
Who Knew Too Much), in 1962 Gale was building "an underground network
for the conduct of guerilla warfare...some of the recruitment effort has
been
directed toward former military servicemen." These are the Rangers, aka
the Minutemen, "composed of persons devoted to extremist racial and
religious beliefs."  Russell adds, "It was quite a time for Willoughby's old
journalist acquaintance Mark Gayn to show up on the scene, authoring an
article titled "The Far Right: America's Own Ultras" for the April 1962
Canadian Commentator magazine. The dateline was Los Angeles, and
Gayn warned that "the Minutemen are known to have acquired some
first-rate automatic weapons, and they thank big business for providing
the funds for this..."

If anyone doubts the late Gen. Willoughby's fascist agenda [which would
account for my hypothesized link-up between the "Yamato gold" in postwar Asia
and billions secreted by the Nazis after 1944 as "insurance," for financing a
future Fourth Reich], note how his patrimony converges with that of Gen.
Singlaub -- i.e., the recruitment and training of racist military types to
constitute a "leaderless" fascist strike-foirce modelled on Central American
"death squads," awaiting social anarchy as THEIR opportunity to take over
and, disguised as "patriotic defenders of liberty," co-opt any "revolution"
aand steer it in a direction leading to a consolidation of neo-Nazi military
power in the United States.
As projected in George Bush's and Ollie North's "martial law" training
exercise called "Operation Garden Plot," our "secret government" expects to
ACTUALLY hand over all power to restore "law and order" --a role intended for
the National Guard acting under FEMA-- to its "moles" in hate-groups such as
the KKK, Aryan Nations, and the like ...
Are these "agents in place" simply getting restless from waiting too long for
the power promised them by their controllers, or are their repeated emergence
as "lone nuts" in "random" acts of racial violence occurring right on cue, to
justify a mass disarmament
of the American people, stripping them of all defense against a "Nazi"
military coup?

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[CTRL] The Dropa Stones

1999-09-24 Thread TenebrousT

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Interesting archeology information, if true.  Interesting fiction if not.
Take a look and judge for yourself.
This is forwarded from a newsgroup.


Subject: The Dropa Stones
From: Reverend Chupacabra A
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Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified,
expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what?
___

The Dropa Stones
A
HREF="http://paranormal.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa060198.htm"http://paran
ormal.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa060198.htm/A
Records of Past Civilizations - A
HREF="http://www.habtheory.com/111.htm"http://www.habtheory.com/111.htm/A

Such records have indeed been found ... in China. These were
contained in a large number of peculiar stone disks discovered
in some underground repositories in the Himalayas near the border
of Tibet.

The discovery of the disks was made in 1938 by Professor Chi Pu

Tei, an archeologist who was leading students on an expedition
into the Bayan Kara Ula Mountains in the then-disputed frontier
territory of Tibet and China. Professor Chi Pu Tei and his students
discovered what was first described as a series of caves, but
later admitted to be a complex system of artificial tunnels and
underground storerooms. These tunnels were perfectly squared and
the walls, ceilings and floors were highly glazed, as if the
passages and rooms were carved by a device emitting heat of such
intensity that it simply melted its way into the mountains.

The archeological group followed some of these passages and
encountered larger chambers in which numerous un-described
implements were discovered. The implements evidently differed from
one chamber to another, but one item was found in common in each
of the chambers -- the stone disks mentioned earlier. In each
chamber, they were found in the same position -- on a smooth
cube of rock, glazed just as the tunnels were, with anywhere
from seven to 20 of the disks neatly stacked on top.

Each disk was 22.7 cm (9 inches) in diameter and 2 cm
(3/4 inch) thick. Each disk also had a perfectly circular 2 cm hole
in the exact center. The outside edges were regularly indented all
the way around, almost like the fluting on a pie crust. Each disk
also had a twin groove which began at the center hole and gradually
moved in an expanding counterclockwise spiral to the outer rim. The
individual disks thus bore a certain similarity to the phonograph
records of today.

All of the disks -- a total of 716 -- were removed and taken for
study to the Peking Academy of Prehistory. Nothing was heard about
this discovery by Western scientists for the next 27 years.
During that period, the disks were being studied intensively
by Professor Tsum Um Nui.

The Bayan Kara Ula Mountains area is one of the most isolated and
least known areas on Earth today. The nearest city of any consequence
is Lhasa, Tibet, about 400 miles to the south through virtually
impassable terrain.

It is an area presently inhabited by two tribes of very unusual
people. The tribes call themselves Dropa and Han, and simply do
not fit into any racial category established by anthropologists.
For one thing, they are both of pygmy stature. The tallest and
shortest adults have measured 4' 7" and 3'6" respectively, but
the average height is 4'2". They are yellow-skinned. Their heads
are disproportionately large and sparsely haired, and their eyes
are large but not Oriental in aspect, with pale bluish irises.
Their features are very nicely formed, most nearly approximating
Caucasian, and their bodies are extremely thin and delicate.
Adult weight is estimated to average about 38 to 52 pounds.

The disks underwent extensive study by Professor Tsum Um Nui,
interrupted at times by war. It took him and his coworkers only
a short time to discover that the spiral grooves were not sound
tracks but, rather, an incredibly ancient writing inscribed in
some unknown way and very nearly microscopic in size. The disks
were determined to be no less than 3,000 or 4,000 years old at
the youngest, and more likely anywhere from 8,000 to 12,000
years old.

This would make them the oldest known form of writing in the world.

Deciphering was incredibly difficult. It took 24 years -- until
1962 -- before Professor Nui and a young colleague found the key
and began deciphering=2E The deciphered spiral text of the stones,
even though only a small amount was completed, was so startling
in its content that the Chinese government prohibited any
publication of the resultant papers.

The precise location of the site has never been released, and
that area has been termed 'Positively Forbidden Territory' for
the Western world since 1938.

Then, in 1965, in a mysterious manner, an article written by
the Russian philologist Vyacheslav Saizev appeared in Das
Vegetarische Universum, a German magazine, and in the Russian-
English magazine Sputnik, telling about the disks, their 

[CTRL] Waco post

1999-09-24 Thread TenebrousT

 -Caveat Lector-

From alt.conspiracy, WACO and the Child abuse allegations.
Enjoy, or not.


Subject: Post of FINAL evidence against WACO Child Abuse, End of Premise
From: "James Perkins" A
HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
Date: Fri, 24 September 1999 02:01 PM EDT
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: No more crap about child abuse - End of argument for Fed supporters
Date: 1999/09/19
Author: James Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From the St. Louis "Post Dispatch"
Full article at:
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HREF="http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35AD
A862"http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35AD
A862/A
567F1003C8CD7?OpenDocument

"The nation already knows that there was some poor judgment. Officials of
the FBI and Justice Department have acknowledged as much. The FBI has
admitted that some of its tactics, like broadcasting loud noises, were
ill-conceived. It has admitted that it did not have new evidence of child
abuse at the time it used child-abuse allegations to persuade Attorney
General Janet Reno to authorize the assault on the compound. And the FBI has
belatedly admitted that it fired pyrotechnic tear gas at a bunker on the
morning of the assault, even though Reno had denied for years that flammable
tear gas was used."

So, the next time anyone (especially familyvalues) wants to throw this
argument up as a shield for the Fed, "Just Say NO".

James Perkins

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[CTRL] Fwd: Suggested Writers For Getting It

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT





Dear R.U.,

I know you didn't ask, but thought I'd get you in touch with some writers
that I think would be perfect for Getting It, which in quality, is living up
to all I hoped it would turn out to be.  I do visit it daily, and it
basically has turned into the only daily webzine with some real spine.

Anyway, besides Jim Hogshire (who I already mentioned) and Richard Metzger,
Kenn Thomas  Jon Vankin (who go without saying), here they are.  I made sure
they are all stylistically aligned with the Getting It message:

Skylaire Alfvegren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - A great writer and a cool
chick.

Jaye Beldo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - One of my two favorite new writers on the net.

Greg Bishop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Editor of The Excluded Middle.  Has
written two things for The Konformist.

Jack Boulware ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - You're probably already talking to him.
 See Sex, American Style.

Das Goat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - I've always got a kick out of his internet
writings.  Haven't heard from him lately, but he sure does great work.

Uri Dowbenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Check his stuff out on Steamshovel
Press.

Luke Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - "The Matt Drudge Of Porn."  Has a sly, smart
ass style.

Ian Goddard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Ian is in a class by himself.

Adam Gorightly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - He just wrote a Manson book which I
hear is top notch.  I don't doubt it for a second.

Ruffin Prevost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - The head of Parascope.  Most people aren't
aware what a fucking funny guy he is, but he's hilarious.

James Van Den Akker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Yeah, you've never heard of
him, because he's never written professionally.  But boy, is he funny.

Gary Webb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - The Dark Alliance Reporter.  I don't know what
he's doing for writing now, but would fit in well.

Jason Wynd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - My other favorite new internet writer.  Real
great shit.

Paul Young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Author of a great book on L.A. Urban
Legends, which hopefully will come out next year.


Well, check them out if you want.  I think all of them could fit in well with
your vision, so wanted to pass the info along.

Thanks,

Robert Sterling




[CTRL] She said yes? No.

1999-09-24 Thread Ric Carter

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http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/17/news-shootings-martyr

Colorado School Shooting 'Martyr' Account In Doubt

Updated 5:27 PM ET September 24, 1999
By Judith Crosson

DENVER (Reuters) - Cassie Bernall, the teenager hailed as a martyr in the
Columbine High School massacre for professing her belief in God before she
was shot dead, may never have had such an exchange with her killer,
officials said Friday.

The story of the 17-year-old, one of the 13 people shot to death when two
teen-age gunmen stormed Columbine High School last April 20, has inspired
religious fervor among Christian teenagers across the United States and
spawned Web sites for her bravery and faith while staring down the barrel of
a gun.

Her parents last week published a book about her life called, "She Said Yes:
the Unlikely Martyrdom of Cassie Bernall."

But police said Friday they cannot confirm the exchange between Cassie
Bernall and her killer ever happened. "There just seems to be a real
question whether the dialogue took place," said Steve Davis, spokesman for
the Jefferson County sheriff's office.

"The Bernalls were made aware there seemed to be some doubt," Davis added.

The parents were not available for comment but the publisher of the book
stood by the account that Cassie Bernall died after answering "Yes" when
gunman Dylan Klebold, 17, asked her if she believed in God.

"We were aware of variations of the account and we interviewed three
students who gave corroborating stories and they stick to it," said Chris
Zimmerman, editor of The Plough Publishing House book.

Davis said some of the students do maintain that the exchange took place,
but said doubts arose after investigators put the stories together with the
time line and where witnesses were when they said they heard the exchange.

The Denver Rocky Mountain News reported that Joshua Lapp, one of the
witnesses to the account, said he has not changed his mind. But another
student, Emily Wyant, 16, who was crouched under a table less than 2 feet
(0.6 meters) from Bernall, said she never heard Klebold ask Bernall if she
believed in God, the paper said.

Klebold and Eric Harris, 18, turned their guns on themselves after they
killed 12 fellow students and a teacher.

In the book Misty Bernall recounts how her own daughter had traveled down a
difficult road, falling in with the wrong crowd and becoming distant. She
said she found letters Cassie had received from a friend urging her to kill
her parents.

Cassie threatened suicide and tried to see the friends about whom the
parents were worried. But three months after the girl was transferred to a
new school, she attended a weekend religious retreat and came home a changed
person.

"We don't feel this discussion (about the exchange before her death)
detracts from the value of the book," Zimmerman said.

Kinkel Pleads Guilty In Oregon School Shooting (Previous story)
Colorado Medical Research Center Told To Halt Tests (Next story)


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[CTRL] Cuba: Show Me The Money!

1999-09-24 Thread Ric Carter

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http://news.excite.com/news/u/990924/13/news-un

Cuba demands reparations from US

Updated 1:14 PM ET September 24, 1999
.By RODOLFO A. WINDHAUSEN

UNITED NATIONS, Sept. 24 (UPI) Cuba demanded today billions of dollars in
reparations from the United States for the 37-year-old economic embargo,
citing the 1948 Geneva Convention on Genocide and other U.N.-approved
international treaties.

Speaking at the General Assembly debate, Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Perez
Roque claimed his country has suffered numerous deaths and economic
deprivation as a consequence of the embargo, which he called "a dirty war."

A civil lawsuit was filed last May before Cuban courts, the minister said,
for the deaths of 3,478 people and 2,099 survivors. The total amount claimed
for compensation is $181.1 billion.

Particular emphasis was put by Perez Roque on the refusal of the United
States to provide "medicine and foodstuffs," which he said violates
international conventions on humanitarian assistance.

Perez Roque also said the United States, since the passing of the Torriceli
law in 1992, has prevented subsidiaries of American companies operating in
third countries to supply medicines to Cuba, "which amounted to more than
$700 million a year" in trade for humanitarian use.

Since the imposition of the embargo in 1962, successive measures taken in
Washington against Cuba "have accumulated to become a total and absolute
blockade, which has reached the extreme of banning the exportation of a
single aspirin produced in the United States," the minister said.

Perez Roque quoted extensively from international treaties and protocols,
including a 1949 Covenant on the protection of civilians in times of war.

He cited a 1997 survey made by the American Association for World Health
(AAWH) claiming the embargo has caused "dramatic damages to the health and
nutrition to a great number of Cuban citizens and has even caused deaths."

The minister recalled that, in the past seven years, the U.N. General
Assembly has passed resolutions urging the United States to put an end to
the economic embargo, which has been ignored by Washington.

So, he said, "the people of Cuba, regardless of the fight that may continue
at this Assembly, has decided to resort to legal procedures it is entitled
to requiring corresponding sanctions for those responsible of these acts of
genocide."

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[CTRL] Privacy Flaky - Stop Tests

1999-09-24 Thread Ric Carter

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http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/15/news-health-research

Colorado Medical Research Center Told To Halt Tests

Updated 3:13 PM ET September 24, 1999

DENVER (Reuters) - The government, concerned about how records and data are
kept, has ordered Colorado's top medical research university to stop its
federally funded clinical tests, putting a halt to thousands of studies on
everything from weight loss to diabetes prevention, university officials
said Friday.

The University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, one of the largest
medical research recipients in the United States, said audits by the U.S.
Food and Drug Administration found problems in bookkeeping, reporting and
database practices that did not meet federal standards.

It said the issues were not related to patient safety. The health sciences
center receives about $100 million a year in research funding and has about
3,200 ongoing research studies.

The university said changes were implemented after an audit, but not to the
FDA's satisfaction.

"The university is cooperating fully in resolving these concerns," said
James Shore, chancellor of the University of Colorado Health Sciences
Center.

The university said the FDA placed the restrictions on the activities of the
Colorado Multiple Institutional Review Board, which is responsible for
reviewing and approving protocols and maintaining detailed records.

On Sept. 21 the FDA ordered the health sciences center to suspend enrollment
of new patients into research using drugs or devices regulated by the FDA.

The next day the restrictions were broadened to not enrolling new patients
into studies funded by the federal government.

Thursday the federal government's Office of Protection from Research Risk
(OPRR) suggested suspending all studies until the matter is cleared up.

The research group then decided to halt all clinical studies, even ones
funded by pharmaceutical companies.

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[CTRL] Old news-new source on proposed lawsuit

1999-09-24 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


 TRADE: Seed Companies Hauled Into Court

By Mario Osava and Gumisai Mutume

   MEXICO CITY (IPS), Sep 24 - Activists from 30 countries have taken
   action against the world's biggest life science companies by taking
   them to court over the question of genetically-modified food which,
   they say, represents an attempt to free agriculture from the control
   of a few.

   "The action reflects humanity's growing pre-occupation with its
   future," says professor Sebastian Pinheiro of the Federal University
   of Rio Grande in Brazil. "Genetically-modified crops represent an
   economic threat to agriculture and put humanity's survival at risk."

   Spearheading the drive against big business is US biotechnology
   activist and head of the Foundation on Economic Trends, Jeremy Rifkin.
   He is leading a campaign that will see activists and farmers from
   Asia, Europe, North America and Latin America challenge the power of
   the world's most dominant genetic food engines later this year.

   "Transnational companies such as Monsanto and Dupont are not worried
   by world hunger or the quality of life of the rest of humanity. They
   want power, to dominate the politics of food and are merely driven by
   commercial interests," says Pinheiro.

   "When the lawsuit gets underway either in the United States or a
   foreign court it is billed to become the biggest anti-trust action in
   the world with the exception of the Microsoft case."

   The activists claim that the likes of Monsanto, DuPont, Pioneer
   Hi-Bred, and Novartis are exploiting bio-technology unfairly and in
   such a way that they gain control of global agricultural markets.

   Modified crops are protected by patents and contracts. Farmers who
   plant them must promise not to keep seeds for future use.

   Using new bio-technologies the big corporations are attempting to
   extend control to the 45 percent of the world economy that is based on
   biological products by using a patent system designed for machines and
   making it work with plants and animals, activists say.

   Monsanto, dubbed the "Microsoft of micro-biology", together with other
   seed companies also is developing ways to genetically alter plants so
   they do not produce usable seeds. This could force farmers to buy
   seeds year after year and give these companies power to dictate the
   future of plant breeding, activists say.

   "A central concern will be that, throughout the history of
   civilization, farmers have been able to grow food and sow their own
   fields with their own seeds. These companies are trying to change
   that," declared US attorney Rich Lewis, one of the many lawyers
   involved in the case.

   Law firms, operating on a no-win-no-fee basis, are looking for some
   provision of anti-trust or contract law that would let Rifkin
   challenge the seed restrictions in a state, federal or foreign court.

   Agricultural analysts say that a few big corporations now own 30
   percent of the global trade in seed, valued at 23 billion dollars
   annually - roughly the gross domestic product of Vietnam.

   Five of these companies Monsanto, Novartis, AstraZeneca, Aventis and
   DuPont virtually control the entire genetically modified crops sector,
   analysts say.

   When Monsanto last year bought the seed operations of Cargill in
   Africa, Asia, Latin America and Europe for 1.4 billion dollars it
   gained control of seed research and production centres in 24 countries
   and distribution systems in more than 50 others.

   The law-suit comes at a time when there is growing concern over the
   implications of genetically modified crops and resistance from certain
   economic blocs such as the European Union towards the consumption and
   import of such crops.

   Developing countries have adopted differing positions to genetic
   crops, some such as Argentina and Mexico embracing the technology
   while others especially in Africa hesitant about the safety of the
   science.

   In India, Vandana Shiva of the Research Foundation for Science
   Technology and Ecology (RFSTE) says the anti-trust action would be a
   useful addition to local campaigns like the "Monsanto Quit India"
   movement which is over a year old. However, by itself the action would
   not be able to do more than create awareness among farmers who are
   targets of Monsanto and Cargill.

   RFTSE is one of several pressure groups that challenged India's new
   patent act in the country's supreme court earlier this year. The act
   grants monopolies and marketing rights to drug and agro- chemical
   transnationals.

   Hundreds of cotton farmers in India's southern Andhra Pradesh state
   committed suicide last year following crop failures. They had bought
   costly pesticides but could not afford to buy another batch of seeds.

   Brazil, one of the worlds 10 largest 

[CTRL] Fw: PANUPS: Colombian Drug Wars

1999-09-24 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 6:44 AM
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Subject: [chemical-trails] Fw: PANUPS: Colombian Drug Wars

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Subject: PANUPS: Colombian Drug Wars


===
P A N U P S
Pesticide Action Network Updates Service
===

Farmers are Victims in Colombian Drug Wars

September 23, 1999

Under the premise of eradicating drug crops, the Colombian
government has been spraying traditional farming communities
indiscriminately with herbicides containing glyphosate.

In June of this year, the Colombian government began spraying homes
and farms of the Yanacona indigenous community in the Macizo
Colombiano region, Cauca province. Herbicides were sprayed over
houses, community centers, schools, water sources, pastures and
workers in the fields. Intended to kill small crops of opium poppy, the
raw material used to make heroin, the spraying destroyed crops and
pasture lands the Yanacona depend on for food and income. Fish and
chickens died, other farm animals became ill, and both adults and
children suffered symptoms of pesticide poisoning.

Faced with illnesses and loss of crops, the Yanacona indigenous
community sent a delegation to meet with the governor of the province,
demanding a stop to the spraying. The governor promised that a fact-
finding commission including representatives of several governmental
and nongovernmental agencies would visit the community to collect
testimony on the spraying. The actual commission consisted, however,
of just two representatives of the provincial government.

Some 1500 members of the Yanacona community assembled to meet
with the fact-finding commission. People presented testimony of their
experience of being "sprayed like flies" and becoming ill. Mothers
reported on illnesses among children, including respiratory distress,
rashes, vomiting, diarrhea, fever, migraines and conjunctivitis. One
pregnant mother with five children testified that all her children were
sick and her livelihood had been destroyed.

Others reported that their pastures had been ruined and their cattle were
ill. The spraying destroyed crops the Yanacona grow to feed their
families and has affected their ability to sell their farm products. For
example, the sale price of milk and cheese has fallen by 50% or more,
due to customers' fears that the cows have drunk water contaminated
with pesticides.

Community members maintain that the majority of the Yanacona farms
that have been sprayed do not grow poppies.

In another area of Colombia, spraying with glyphosate has undone the
successes of small farmers who were working to establish ecologically
and economically sound alternatives to drug crops. Farmers in Caqueta
province have designed intercropped gardens of native species, pasture
areas with tree cover, and small-scale fish farming. In August, the
government began spraying herbicides that have killed seedlings in
their nurseries and crops in their fields, contaminated water sources and
made adults and children sick. The farmers are seeking help from the
International Red Cross to set up a forum in which to present testimony
on what they have experienced.

Colombia produces three illicit drug crops: marijuana, coca and opium
poppy. Commercial production of coca for processing into cocaine
began in the mid-1970s and has increased dramatically; Colombia is
now the world's largest producer of cocaine. Large-scale production of
opium poppy did not begin until 1990, but it too has grown rapidly.
Colombia is now the primary supplier of heroin to the eastern United
States.

Between 1990 and 1998, the U.S. provided some US$625 million to the
Colombian National Police and the Colombian military for aircraft,
weapons, ammunition and other support for the war on drugs.
Beginning in 1996, the U.S. State Department identified herbicide
spraying to eradicate opium poppy crops as a priority; the cost of this
undertaking for fiscal year 1999 may be as high as US$68 million. Yet
the expensive and inhumane "war on drugs" has not brought the drug
trade under control. According to conservative estimates, the area in
Colombia planted with illegal crops increased by almost 400% between
1978 and 1998. Between 1996 and 1998, despite consistent spraying,
coca production in Colombia increased by 50% and poppy production
remained approximately constant.

RAPALMIRA (PAN-Colombia) is calling for the immediate
suspension and long-term prohibition of aerial spraying to eradicate
drug crops, and for the implementation of a genuine program of
alternative, sustainable development.

Source: This material is excerpted from "Casualties of the 'War on
Drugs': Traditional Farms Destroyed 

[CTRL] No. Eire: 'Bad Apples'

1999-09-24 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From TheIrishTimes


 Saturday, September 25, 1999

 Congressmen tell
 Patten of concern
 
 From Joe Carroll, in Washington

 Members of the US Congress have expressed their disappointment to Mr Chris
 Patten that his report on policing in Northern Ireland did not propose how to
 get rid of the "bad apples" in the RUC. But Mr Patten retorted that he was
 against engaging in a "witch-hunt".

 The small number of congressmen who attended the hearing on the report also
 regretted that it did not recommend a ban on the use of plastic bullets and on
 membership of sectarian organisations by police officers.

 But there was also praise for Mr Patten and Senator Maurice Hayes, who was
 present with him, for the work done by their commission. Fears were expressed,
 however, that there may be a long delay in implementing the report.

 Congressman Chris Smith who chaired the hearing said later: "This lack of a
 vetting procedure - a way to ensure that it is indeed the `bad apples' who leave
 rather than cling to their seats of power and abuse - is the most troubling
 omission of all. It is our hope that we may learn that either the
 newly-recommended oversight commissioner or perhaps the new 19-member police
 board has been empowered with this critical vetting authority."

 The "vetting of bad apples" turned out to be the most controversial aspect of
 the testimony of Mr Patten, which lasted just over an hour. But the exchanges
 were polite and there was disappointment that Mr Patten had to leave for an
 appointment in the White House before all the congressmen present had had a
 chance to question him.

 He was followed by Mr Michael Finucane, son of the murdered Belfast solicitor,
 Mr Patrick Finucane, who told the committee it was a "glaring omission" by the
 Patten report that it did not deal with death threats made by RUC officers
 against his father and Ms Rosemary Nelson, murdered earlier this year.

 Mr Patten, who at times showed emotion by jabbing his fingers on the table when
 denouncing the more extreme criticism of his report in British newspapers, began
 his testimony by some personal impressions of his time in Northern Ireland.

 He described some "very difficult meetings" during the consultation process,
 when he met widows of murdered RUC officers and relatives of victims of loyalist
 gangs. One evening after such meetings "I had the longest drink I ever had in my
 life".

 He rather nonplussed the politicians on plastic bullets by telling them that
 when American police officers were asked by the commission what they would do if
 attacked with petrol bombs, they replied: "We'd use live rounds."

 Mr Patten said his report recommended more restrictive use of plastic bullets in
 Northern Ireland, but did not propose a complete ban because the police had
 still to deal with blast-bomb and petrol-bomb attacks.

 Mr Patten said he knew he was treading on controversial ground with the
 committee over its efforts to ban funding for FBI training courses for the RUC.
 "It is very important that the new police service in Northern Ireland not be
 isolated or cut off from the rest of the world," he said.

 Any foreign police force which brought together members of the RUC and the
 Garda, as the FBI has done, is doing a signal service to the community in
 Northern Ireland Mr Patten told the congressmen, who did not seem to share his
 views.

 Congressman Ben Gilman, who is chairman of the International Committee on
 International Relations, said he was disappointed the Patten report did not
 recommend a ban on membership of sectarian associations, especially as the Chief
 Constable of the RUC, Sir Ronnie Flanagan, had told the House of Commons he was
 against such membership.

 Mr Patten said it was a question of civil liberties, and police officers should
 not be denied the right to join orders, but their membership should be declared
 to the authorities. He said it was not just a question of the Orange Order but
 also of the Freemasons, other loyal orders and the AOH.

 Senator Hayes, who was also asked if he supported a vetting process, said "we
 must avoid a witch-hunt" and "increasing uncertainty for the good and honourable
 police officers". The problem could be dealt with by retraining and the expected
 high turnover in the existing force as the reforms were implemented.


AER
~~~
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
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"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said
it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your
own reason and your common sense." --Buddha
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A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled
one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller,
   

[CTRL] Gene manipulation labels; opponents fall like dominos

1999-09-24 Thread Dave

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WTO concessions ?

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


==
Friday September 17 7:19 PM ET

Britain To Label Gene-Modified Food

LONDON (AP) - British food establishments, from restaurants and pubs to
caterers, will have to tell customers which of their dishes contain
genetically modified ingredients under a new law that goes into effect
Sunday.

The use of genetically modified, or GM, ingredients in foods is being
hotly debated in Britain. Polls indicate many people strongly disapprove,
while many want at least further research to be conducted.

GM foods are made from plants whose genes are manipulated in order to
produce characteristics such as resistance to pests.

Britain has yet to approve raising GM crops, but some imported ingredients
do contain GM plants.

Food Minister Baroness Hayman said on Friday that the new labeling
requirements, like those that have applied to food sold at retail since
September 1998, "will ensure that consumers are entitled to the same
information when eating out as they expect when buying their own food in
shops." Failure to comply with the new law can be punished by fines of up
to $8,000.

"The government is committed to ensuring that consumers are able to make
an informed choice about the food they eat," she said.

==

Canada to develop GM food voluntary label standard

WINNIPEG, Sept 17 (Reuters) - The group which represents most of Canada's
major food sellers will take part in a project to develop a Canadian
standard for voluntary labeling of biotechnology foods, the agriculture
ministry said on Friday.

"The Government of Canada believes in the right of consumers to have
access to information as it relates to biotechnology and food,"
Agriculture Minister Lyle Vanclief said in a statement.

The ministry will support the project, launched by the Canadian Council of
Grocery Distributors (CCGD) and the Canadian General Standards Board
(CGSB).

Environmental and consumer groups in Canada, following the lead of similar
organizations in Europe, have started demanding that foods made with
genetically-modified organisms (GMOs) be labeled .

The CCGD represents 80 percent of major food retailers in Canada, a major
world agricultural producer.

The CGSB is an accredited standards development organization within the
federal government.

"Consistent codes of practices for voluntary labeling of foods derived
from biotechnology will give consumers information to make choices,"
Vanclief said.

The Canadian government has refused to enforce mandatory labeling of GM
foods, following a policy favoured in the United States.

===



Friday September 24, 1:49 pm Eastern Time

U.S. plans labels on genetically modified foods


By Doug Palmer

WASHINGTON, Sept 24 (Reuters) - U.S. government agencies have agreed to
develop a labeling plan for food products made from genetically modified
crops, a key demand of the biotech-wary European market, an industry
consultant said on Friday.

Consultant Charles Benbrook said the decision was made earlier this week
at a meeting between officials of the U.S. Agriculture Department, the
Food and Drug Administration and the Environmental Protection Agency.

"Things will move slowly, as they always do. But there definitely was a
major breakthrough," Benbrook, a consultant for Consumers Union and the
Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy, told reporters.

But Isi Siddiqui, a trade adviser to Agriculture Secretary Dan Glickman,
told Reuters he had no knowledge of the agreement.

The Food and Drug Administration, which has jurisdiction over labeling
issues, has resisted putting labels on food products containing
genetically modified ingredients, such as new corn and soybeans varieties
that U.S. farmers have planted in increasing numbers since 1996.

The FDA has argued labeling is unwarranted because genetically modified
crops are not materially different from traditional varieties.

Benbrook said he learned from Agriculture Department officials that the
United States hopes to develop a labeling proposal in time for an
important meeting of the World Trade Organization, the global trade body,
in Seattle in November.

Genetically modified crops are expected to be a major issue in the next
round of world trade negotiations that begin with the Seattle meeting,
spurred by consumer demands in the European Union and other countries.

Benbrook said the United States was rushing to try to develop a labeling
proposal to take to Seattle. The United State risks walking into a "bee's
nest" at that meeting because it is nearly alone in its opposition to
labeling, he said.

"Apparently, USDA has convinced the White House that the government has to
move forward on this front," Benbrook said.


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Re: [CTRL] Nicaraguan Contras and Cocaine

1999-09-24 Thread Sean McDougal

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I once knew an individual that served in the Sandanista army.  He says they
used to find a group of contras now and then and often they carried large
amounts of cocaine.  He said they would overcome the bands, since they were
often small [for stealth I guess], and stand in a big circle and set the
drugs on fire.  He said they would "be high for days" afterwards.

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Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world

1999-09-24 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED]


ENFORCED population control infringes on human freedom and human
dignity as much as restrictions on freedoms of worship, association,
and exchange of ideas.
--
SM:
When this earth is all said and done I hope it is not said that the human
race killed itself because it did not want to feel infringed upon by the
reality of its situation.


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Re: [CTRL] San Francisco, Electrified and Quaking

1999-09-24 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  First, really unparallelled thunder and lightning (I watched a massive
lightning bolt travel HORIZONTALLY from horizon to horizon, SLOWLY) twice in
two weeks, each time "explained" as a byproduct of a dying Pacific hurricane
-- two different ones.
==
SM:
Until last year, scientists had never recorded a hurricane in the Pacific
Ocean, apparently defined by the storm's strength.  Until then there had
been many typhoons of course.  If you lived in the bay area in December of
1996 then you will remember a vicious storm that downed trees en masse.
Just a little north of SF, in western Sonoma county, winds approached 100
mph, typhoon strength.  Granted it is rare for the area but seems to
becoming more frequent.  That storm rivaled many I have seen in the tornado
belt.
..

  Second, COINCIDING with a thunder-and-lightning display, an EARTHQUAKE
of exactly the rare type that struck Taiwan -- arising near the SURFACE of
the earth.
--
SM:
What was rare about the Taiwan quake is that it happened in a spot that is
usually not active, i.e. inland.  MOST of San Francisco's quakes originate
inland; it's not unusual.

An epicenter as far north as Santa Rosa, however, IS unusual but it makes
some sense.  The San Andreas fault has fragments, tributary-like, that run
all the way into Lake County, including Calistoga and Middletown, home to
many of the original Jonestown inhabitants [more on that some other
time...that is a rather large can of worms].  From Calistoga to much further
inland than even that is an immense amount of geothermal activity.  There is
even a geothermal powerstation near Cobb Mountain, about 45 miles north of
Calistoga, 80 or so from Santa Rosa [boy, FBI filekeepers could have a filed
day with the info I have provided about myself here...he he], not to mention
many hot springs.

In fact, though the immediate bay area has much larger quakes than it, Lake
County has a vast amount of small quakes.  On the average, I could feel one
at least weekly when I lived there.  A quick look at the Press Democrat and
its section covering daily seismic activity will show Cobb Mountain to have
several per day.

SOan hour to the southwest of Santa Rosa is San Francisco, famous for
big quakes and an hour to the northeast of it is a region that has several
per day.  Santa Rosa was probably due for one.

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[CTRL] Kosovo/NATO items

1999-09-24 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: MichaelP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Kosovo/NATO items
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:31:04 -0500 (CDT)

From: Karl Waldron [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Gracanica, September 22

Today on Sep 22 on the session of the Kosovo Transitional Council the
representatives of the Serbian national commuity, Bishop Artemije and Mr.
Trajkovic officially resigned from their positions within the KTC. They
explained their leaving of the Council with the fact that after three
months of KFOR and UNMIK presence in Kosovo the multiethnic concept in
Kosovo has failed.

This failure was crowned by the transformation of the KLA into a
monoethnic and armed Kosovo Protection Corps which is directly violating
the UN Security Council Resolution 1244. After three months of peace the
results are catastrophic for the Serbs in the province: about 200.000
expelled, more than 350 killed, 450 abducted, thousands of burned and
looted Serb houses as well as 70 destroyed churches and monasteries in the
presence of almost 50.000 international peace forces. In Kosovo there is
not a single multiethnic institution. Serbs have been practically expelled
from all multiethnic areas and forced into reservations and ghettoes. They
are denied the basic human rights and freedom of movement, education, work
and medical protection. Nothing is done to enable the expelled Serb to go
back to their homes while the remaining Serbs and other non-Albanians are
still being persecuted, killed, raped and beaten. According to the  words
of Mr. Trajkovic the winners in the so far process in Kosovo are Mr. Thaci
and Mr. Milosevic while the loosers are Kosovo Serbs, Serb and Albanian
moderate and democratic forces and especially the international community
(KFOR and UNMIK).

The Serb representatives in the KTC said that their participation in the
Council was motivated with the idea to constantly point out to the
difficult security situation for the Serbs in Kosovo and make efforts to
contribute to the better conditions for life and survival of our people.
But Bishop Artemije and Mr. Trajkovic have clearly explained that they are
not ready to take upon themselves the political responsibility for the
decisions which are made in Kosovo without the consultation with the
Kosovo Serbs and against their interests. The international community is
working more and more in direction of creating the independent Kosovo for
which no one from the Kosovo Serb community can and should take
responsibility. Kosovo Protection Corps which is already translated into
Albanian as KOSOVO DEFENSIVE TROOPS is the continuation of the KLA with
full continuity of its millitary structure with the General Agim Ceku as
its head. The fact that KLA have given over only one part of mostly
outdated weapons and have hidden the majority of the modern wapons in
their secret depots is only an attempt to show that UNMIK and KFOR have
managed to demilitarize KLA, what was envisaged by the UN Resolution 1244.
In reality this is a tacit legalization of a monoethnic army built on the
foundations of an organization which is considered by many as a terrorist
organization directly responsible for many crimes against the Serb and
other non-Albanian population. The New Corps is nothing but a nucleus of
the future ethnic Albanian army of Kosovo.

Since the international community has completely denied the multiethnic
approach to the resolution of the Kosovo issue and focused on attempts to
resolve Albanian question only, the Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija with full
right might ask for resolution of the Serbian ethnic question in direction
of cantonization and the establishment of the Serbian Protection Corps.

Bishop Artemije and Mr. Trajkovic have clearly manifested that in the
present situation they have not the mandate to represent the Serbian
people in Kosovo and they proposed to Mr. Kouchner to find other
representatives for the Council among those who seek the ethnic approach
to the Kosovo issue or to build Kosovo future with Albanians only. The
Serb representativTOP cannot be any longer a decoration of the inexistent
multiethnicity.

Despite leaving of the Council, Bishop Artemije and Mr. Trajkovic said
that they remain open for the further cooperation with the international
community in order to better protect the human rights and freedoms of the
Serbian national community in the southern Serbian province.

Information Service of the Church and National Committee
--
Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Raska and Prizren
Gracanica Monastery, Pristina,
Kosovo and Metohija

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Reuters:

Solana declares Kosovo force dead, others disagree

By Douglas Hamilton

TORONTO, Sept 21 (Reuters) - Outgoing NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana
asserted on Tuesday that the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) was dead but
Yugoslavia and some of the guerrillas themselves disagreed.

"The UCK (KLA) doesn't exist anymore," 

[CTRL] Is NYC being used for bio-warfare experiments? 9/22/99 NY Times

1999-09-24 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: Is NYC being used for bio-warfare experiments? 9/22/99 NY Times
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:25:50 -0500 (CDT)

Why does the Federal government want to expand an existing
bio-warfare research lab right off the coast of NYC, the most
populated area in the U.S.? Have 8 million New Yorkers been
chosen as the lab rats in an ongoing bio-medical research
project? Is Mayor Giuliani’s bizarre mass daily spraying of toxic
pesticides on NYC part of an experiment or a response to a virus
that already escaped from the lab? Is the mosquito epidemic
merely an excuse to  get people used to being sprayed with
chemicals from the air? Is the timing of today’s NY Times and
yesterday’s Daily News articles on this lab setting us up for some
bad news about what is really behind the encephalitis scare?
Please note: birds are a major part of the experimenting that goes
on at the lab right now. Birds are also exactly where mosquitoes
get the encephalitis virus. While a mosquito may not easily fly
from Plum Island to Queens a bird can do it without any
problem. Do the people of NY deserve answers before any more
spraying is undertaken? The NYC Dept. of Health, the Dept. of
Environmental Protection and the Mayor’s Emergency
Management Services team are unable to explain their total lack
of air sampling on the distribution of Malathion and the other
two poison gasses being used. They claim they are using three
ounces of Malathion per acre yet the planes make repeated
passes over the same area meaning they have no idea how much
of the chemical is being dropped per City block. Last Saturday
my home in Park Slope was sprayed nine times by the same
helicopter. Is Mayor Giuliani bravely trying to protect public
health or is he the Mengele for the New World Order?
-Robert Lederman

NY Times 9/22/99
U.S. Would Use Long Island Lab to Study Food Terrorism

Related Article
• At Bleak Asian Site, Killer Germs Survive (June 2, 1999)

By JUDITH MILLER

  PLUM ISLAND, N.Y. -- Alarmed at what the Clinton
Administration views as the growing threat of biological
terrorism to America's food supply, the Agriculture Department
is seeking money to turn the Plum Island Animal Disease Center,
one mile off Long Island, into a top security laboratory where
some of the most dangerous diseases known to man or beast can
be studied.

The Agriculture Department already operates here at Plum Island,
just across Gardiners Bay from the wealthy Hamptons, a
laboratory where such dreaded foreign animal diseases as
foot-and-mouth and African swine fever are examined. But the
department is seeking $75 million this year and $140 million
over the next two years to upgrade the center to handle even more
dangerous animal diseases that can affect humans.

While there are four civilian and military laboratories in America
equipped to study such diseases -- technically known as
Biosafety Level Four facilities -- their work is focused on germs
that primarily affect humans, not domestic animals or plants.

Officials say the proposed expansion and upgrading of Plum
Island is part of a new effort by the Clinton Administration to
deter terrorists who might spread germs to destroy American
crops or livestock for political purposes or financial gain, a threat
they now see as equal to that of terrorist attacks aimed at people.

"Given the contribution of crop and animal exports to the
nation's prosperity, we must do far more to protect our plant and
animal resources," said Senator Richard G. Lugar, the Indiana
Republican and co-author of legislation in 1991 and 1996 that
provided money to bolster defenses against unconventional
terrorism and stop the proliferation of such weapons.

"This is not about food per se; Americans would not go hungry if
we were attacked," said Floyd P. Horn, the administrator of the
Agricultural Research Service, who helped persuade the
Administration to include his agency in January in its
counter-terrorism plans and programs. "But such an attack, or
even a credible threat, would severely disrupt America's
economic and social infrastructure for weeks, if not months or
years."

Plum Island, which was once operated by the United States Army
Chemical Corps, was designated as an animal-disease research
center and transferred to the Agriculture Department in the early
1950's. It is already what scientists call an agricultural "Biosafety
Level Three" center, which means that its containment areas,
which hold germs dangerous to animals, have filtered air, sealed
doors and negative air pressure that prevents germs from leaking
out of the labs. Liquid waste is decontaminated.

All who enter the labs wear white lab coats and slippers. After
leaving the containment areas, they are required to shower,
shampoo their hair, scrub their nails and rinse their mouths, since
lethal germs can live 

[CTRL] UN links with Corporate Predators

1999-09-24 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


Corporate Watch Homepage
http://www.corpwatch.org

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASESeptember 23, 1999

Groups Expose More United Nations Affiliations
with Corporate Predators

Contact:
Kenny Bruno (1 718) 623-8529
Joshua Karliner (1 415) 561-6567

Sept. 23, 1999 San Francisco -- Non-governmental organizations have sent a
letter to UN High Commissioner for Refugees Sadako Ogata and UNICEF
Executive Director Carol Bellamy calling for their resignation from the
Business Humanitarian Forum (BHF).

The BHF is a new private group Co-Chaired by UNHCR's Ogata and John Imle
President of UNOCAL, a corporation notorious for human rights abuses in
Burma. Its complicity with the brutal Burmese military dictatorship in
using forced labor on a natural gas pipeline is well known.

"UNOCAL has done so much harm to my country. It is discouraging to find
respected UN agencies sharing the podium with companies like UNOCAL,
especially to those of us who are fighting every day against their human
rights abuses," said Ka Hsaw Wa, Director of EarthRights International,
one of the signatories of the letter.

Forum board members also include UNICEF, and Nestle a company which
continues to violate a UN code of conduct on infant formula designed to
protect children.

The letter, which is also signed by the International Baby Food Action
Network says it is "ironic and disturbing that UNHCR would share this
platform with a company [UNOCAL] with practices so antithetical to its own
mission[and] that UNICEF, with its mission to protect children, would
voluntarily associate with a company [Nestle] which has done so much to
harm children.

The Business Humanitarian Forum, based in Geneva, is supported by UN
Secretary General Kofi Annan, who has called for a compact between the UN
and corporations.

"This is one more example of why the UN must fundamentally reconsider the
partnerships it is embarking on with global corporations," said Joshua
Karliner, Director of TRAC--Transnational Resource  Action Center, a San
Francisco-based human rights and environment group and a signator to the
letter. "So far the way UN agencies have implemented Kofi Annan's call for
a closer relationship with the private sector is to jump into bed with a
bunch of bad corporate actors."

Last March, over one hundred groups, including the signatories to the
letter sent yesterday, called for the dissolution of the UNDP's planned
collaboration with private companies such as Dow, Rio Tinto and ABB. That
collaboration, the Global Sustainable Development Facility, is on hold
pending review by the UNDP.

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[CTRL] Mitsubishi attacks whale birthing lagoon, GE seeds unwanted

1999-09-24 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
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INTERNATIONAL BOYCOTT WILL PEPPER DESTRUCTIVE SALT PLANT

LAGUNA SAN IGNACIO, Baja California, Mexico, September 24, 1999 (ENS) -
Environmental groups will launch a massive campaign Monday against
Mitsubishi Corporation’s plans to build the world’s largest salt factory in
a Baja California lagoon. Laguna San Ignacio is considered the last
pristine birthing lagoon for the California gray whale.
Copyright Environment News Service (ENS) 1999
For full text and graphics visit:
http://ens.lycos.com/ens/sep99/1999L-09-24-06.html

***

FARMERS STUNG AS CONSUMERS REJECT TRANSGENIC CROPS

WASHINGTON, DC, September 24, 1999 (ENS) - Farmers in the United States are
facing lower prices than expected for many bioengineered crops, as many
European and domestic markets are boycotting altered foods. Some industry
experts are predicting that demand for genetically modified seeds will be
dramatically reduced next year, and fear that there may no longer be enough
non-modified seeds to meet farmers’ needs.
Copyright Environment News Service (ENS) 1999
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[CTRL] Zap the Bastards

1999-09-24 Thread Ric Carter

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http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/19/news-crime-electricchair

Florida High Court Again OKs Electric Chair

By Michael Peltier
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Reuters) - The Florida Supreme Court Friday ruled the use
of the state's electric chair in executions was constitutional and is not
cruel or usual punishment.

But the court also agreed that the state legislature should give death row
inmates a choice between electrocution and lethal injection.

In a 4-3 vote, Florida's highest court ended months of uncertainly following
a bloody spectacle at Florida's last execution in July.

When blood flowed from the nose of Allen "Tiny" Davis during his execution,
attorneys for Thomas Provenzano, the next inmate scheduled to die in the
electric chair, began a legal challenge, arguing the use of the chair was
unconstitutionally cruel.

The court, for the second time in two years, disagreed.

"The record in this case reveals abundant evidence that execution by
electrocution renders an inmate instantaneously unconscious, thereby making
it impossible to feel pain," the court's majority wrote. "The record also
contains evidence that the chair is and has been functioning properly and
that the electrical circuitry is being maintained."

The use of the electric chair has been under legal scrutiny in Florida for
years. Most of the 38 U.S. states where capital punishment is legal have
switched to lethal injection, a process some say is a less objectionable
method of executing inmates.

In October 1997, the Florida Supreme Court upheld the chair's use by a 4-3
majority. Its constitutionality was challenged after flames leaped from the
mask covering the head of Pedro Medina during his execution in March of that
year.

The Medina execution was the second in a decade in which fire erupted when
the executioner threw the switch. In 1990, a synthetic sponge placed on the
head of inmate Jesse Tafero burst into flames.

Despite their support for electrocution, the Supreme Court Friday urged
lawmakers to offer inmates a choice other than the electric chair, which has
been the state's sole means of execution since 1924.

"I urge the Legislature to revisit this issue and pass legislation giving
inmates the choice between lethal injection and electrocution as the method
of carrying out the death penalty," Chief Justice Major Harding wrote.

Three dissenting justices agreed.

"I am convinced that the time has now come to address this issue head on,"
wrote Justice Leander Shaw. "It is my conclusion that electrocution as it is
administered in Florida is unconstitutional."

The high court's action was denounced by human rights groups and death
penalty opponents, who said the decision not only kept intact a cruel form
of punishment but reinforced the death penalty despite growing international
opposition.

Sam Jordan, director of Amnesty International's efforts to abolish the death
penalty, said the court's decision is a giant leap back.

"This throws our civilization backward to a dependence on a cycle of
violence and vengeance," he said. "This is about getting even."

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush hailed the court's ruling.

"The court's decision is a resounding victory for all Floridians, especially
those who have been victimized by the cruel and malicious acts of those
inmates on death row," Bush said.

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[CTRL] Bank of NY/Russian Mafia, Mossad, CIA and The Octopus

1999-09-24 Thread Das GOAT

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 After BCCI, wouldn't you have known it?


Consortiumnews.com
 http://www.consortiumnews.com

The investigations into the Bank of New York's role in laundering vast sums
of Russian money have ignored well-documented connections between a bank
principal, the CIA and the Israeli Labor Party.

The tie-in comes through one of the bank's owners, Bruce Rappaport, a Swiss
financier who was linked to a variety of secret operations during the
Reagan-Bush era.  Those operations included a strange Iraqi pipeline deal,
the Iran-contra affair, sensitive U.S. Customs stings, the BCCI scandal, the
October Surprise case and a mysterious shipment of Israeli weapons to
Colombian drug kingpins.

Rappaport was known as one of CIA director William Casey's favorite golf
partners. Yet, when the New York Times profiled Rappaport and his hand in the
Bank of New York's Russian financial deals, the U.S. intelligence connections
were left out. Rappaport's fuller history can be read at Consortiumnews.com,
an online investigative magazine.  It's located at:
  http://www.consortiumnews.com

This is a free site, but we urge those who wish to support our investigative
journalism to buy a copy of Robert Parry's important new book, "Lost History:
Contras, Cocaine, the Press $ 'Project Truth' " for just $19.95.  Or
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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] CONTROLLED MEDIA WILL AGAIN ELECT PRESIDENT

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan




Title: CONTROLLED MEDIA WILL AGAIN ELECT PRESIDENT
List correspondents may note that little that I post has
been published.  That is because I am a journalist by
default.  Only when I can not find paid journalists who will
do the story will I put it out myself.  My writings are not
publishable in America.  That is no publisher will pay a
living wage for this kind of material.  Yet is it not light
years ahead of everything put out by paid journalists?  The
least of any feature I have published will hold its own in
any issue of Vanity Fair or Nation but they do not pay for
such material.

I can not take credit for the greatness of this series
because I had help on a daily basis from, Fletcher Prouty,
Victor Marchetti, Alfred McCoy, Peter Dale Scott, Barbara
Honegger, Peter Breton, Jim Marrs, Jon Kwitney and Steven
Pizzo.  What I am is really just a good technical writer
transcribing the thoughts of the leaders in this area.  And
while the paid journalist writes at the 6th grade level I
have always written for the cognitive elite.

I gave credit to the  two writers who had broken the Jackson
Stevens connection to Bill Clinton when I wrote this and the
follow on CLINTON SELECTED TO BE NEXT PRESIDENT
http://www.dcia.com/clinton.html  These articles mention
many of the reasons I know what I do and also reveal the
hidden monolithic nature of the mass media.

Remember the JFK assassination, the WORLD TRADE CENTER
bombing and the OKC bombing were botched jobs.  It was the
monolithic cover-up of  major media that saved these
operations.

In the second article I interview Clinton about Jackson
Stevens and Hasan Abedi.  Now the big thing about this
interview is that it was captured by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC,
FOX, CNN boom mikes and cameras.  Clinton was supremely
unconcerned that any of this would reach the air.  None of
it did.

This material posted by Sammy Finkelman is very exciting.  I
would like to get these if possible.  He certainly has an
inside view and is hard hitting.

Brian Downing Quig




http://www.dcia.com/control.html







 







CONTROLLED MEDIA WILL AGAIN ELECT PRESIDENT

by Brian Downing Quig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Monetary and Economic Review April 1992 

in mid August 1975 I was completing my first week of research for Congressman
James V. Stanton.  The preceding week Congressman Stanton was unexpectedly
given the chairmanship of an important subcommittee of the House Intelligence
Oversight Committee which was mandated to investigate allegations of secret
police activity on the part of CIA and FBI.  When I called to offer my
research services and those of 4 law students from CLEVELAND MARSHALL LAW
SCHOOL the congressman's alma mater Stanton assigned us to his administrative
director, Mike Sweeney.

This first week we were studying the senate testimony of two noted capos of 
organized crime ))) Johnny Roselli and Sam Giancana.  They had been called to 
testify before the CHURCH COMMITTEE, our sister committee in the Senate, about 
joint CIA/Mafia attempts to kill Fidel Castro.  They had both cited the 5th 
amendment a countless number of times when asked about CIA connections with 
these contract hits and with the assassination of President Kennedy.  They 
were both due to testify again only this time they were being granted an 
involuntary immunity.  This meant that if they did not answer all questions 
they could be cited for contempt of congress carrying a possible 3 years 
imprisonment.

Two weeks before I joined the staff, Johnny Roselli's mutilated body turned up 
floating in an oil drum off the coast of Florida.  This sets the stage for the
day I walked into the office to find Mike Sweeney and the entire staff in a
state of shock.  On Mr.  Sweeney's desk was the morning edition of the
CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER with a nondescript three paragraph story in the bottom
right collum of the front page.  Sam Giancana, the undisputed head of the
Chicago mob for 30 years, had been shot 5 times through the face in his own
home the night before!

What made this especially shocking to us was our knowledge that Giancana was 
under 24 hour FBI surveillance at the time.  More shocking was the newspaper's omission of Giancana's upcoming Senate testimony to us the obvious motive 
for the rub out.  This omission troubled Sweeney, who dispatched me to the 
nearest newsstand to purchase the NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POST, LA TIMES 
and every out of town newspaper available.  I returned with more than a dozen --- all of which carried essentially the identical 3 nondescript paragraphs --- all omitting the obvious motive! In a state that could medically be 
described as shock, Sweeney kept repeating "Tomorrow it could be one of us who 
is murdered and the newspapers would not mention what we were working on." 
Beyond our wildest imaginations we had just experienced our first "news 
black)out".

In 1977 I interviewed for the research 

[CTRL] Why Giuliani is Gassing NY

1999-09-24 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: Mosquito as Metaphor: Why Giuliani is Gassing NY
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:20:36 -0500 (CDT)

Mosquito As Metaphor: Giuliani Gasses NY

There’s nothing uncharacteristic about Mayor Giuliani’s decision
to turn NYC into a poison gas ghetto. Dousing eight million
men, women and children with poison gas in order to eradicate
encephalitis mosquitoes that so far are unproven to even exist
shows the low regard our Mayor has for human life. Six years of
previous Giuliani initiatives have been characterized by his
enthusiasm for resorting to the most drastic measures available
by law, and many that clearly violate the law, in order to
eliminate what he considers pests.

For Giuliani an emergency situation occurs when a wealthy
contributor whispers a complaint about something during a
fundraiser or his staff comes up with the possibility of a
lightening quick response to an issue that will give him the
chance to appear decisive on TV. His thirteen million dollar gas
proof bunker in the World Trade Center was built to function as
a stage from which to broadcast weekly episodes of Action Rudy,
Superhero Savior of New York!

Superheros need easily recognizable villains to fight, preferably
ones who are hated or feared by the community. Mosquitoes are
an even better enemy for Giuliani than the homeless or street
artists. Mosquitoes have no friends in high places.

Ultimately however, we are all mosquitoes to Rudy Giuliani.
When the Mayor’s Manhattan Institute inspired eradication
campaigns were previously focused on squeegee guys, street
artists, homeless people and vendors, all of whom were also
described as plagues destroying New York’s quality of life, few
people saw any need for alarm.

As the Mayor gradually trained his sights on CUNY students,
community gardeners and welfare recipients more people became
concerned but allowed themselves to be lulled into complacency
by the Republican logic of cutting spending and putting people
to work. By the time the Mayor was privatizing public hospitals,
schools and parks, giving the wealthiest corporations in the City
massive tax write offs and denying any groups he disliked the
right to freedom of speech and assembly we’d all become so used
to the arbitrary elimination of rights that, for most New Yorkers,
resistance seemed futile.

Like the proverbial frogs placed in a pot of cold water that is
gradually brought to a boil we’ve found ourselves unable to jump
out of the Mayor’s police state before it was too late.

Just think of the perceptual alterations Giuliani has brought to
once liberal New York. The public and the supposedly liberal
media have come to accept that police shootings of unarmed and
in many cases, completely innocent people, are justified. Daily
aerial gassings of the entire City are now routine. We no longer
seriously question the hundreds of thousands of illegal searches
in minority communities and additional hundreds of thousands
of so-called quality of life arrests for non criminal activity that
are never brought to trial. The seizing and selling at auction of
personal property without the need for a trial or conviction of
any crime has become commonplace.

Despite a billion dollar surplus and the existence of numerous
genuine public health crises in New York no one is seriously
questioning the dismantling of what was once the nation’s best
system of public hospitals. Cuts in funding for the most essential
public resources including libraries, ambulances, building
inspections, public health and even mosquito abatement go
totally unchallenged. Like a prison warden gradually cutting
rations and privileges in order to psychologically intimidate, the
Mayor rules over us the convicts under his charge with an iron
hand.

In response to those who dare to take a public stand against this
bully Rudy’s retribution is swift and certain. For an elected
official like City Council Member Steven DiBrienza the Mayor
can place homeless shelters in your district if you get out of line.
Federal judges that rule against him find their names in the next
day’s newspaper alongside words like crazy, stupid and insane.
Reporters that dare to ask him an embarrassing question or write
a story that puts the Mayor in a bad light often find their jobs are
in jeopardy. For City-funded agencies such as Housing Works or
Legal Aid, massive funding cuts can be implemented to teach
them to mind their manners. And for outspoken critics like
myself and Christopher Brodeur who can’t be fired or have their
benefits cut, false arrests and malicious prosecutions follow like
the days of the week.

Now that the Malathion Madman has intimidated the media, his
political opposition and the general public into passively
accepting being covered with organophosphate nerve gasses on a
daily basis, new frontiers are opening for Giuliani’s quality of
life police state. Forced inoculations can 

[CTRL] Killer Stone Cold Sober

1999-09-24 Thread Ric Carter

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http://news.excite.com/news/u/990923/10/news-churchshoot

Church shooter not on drugs

Updated 10:01 AM ET September 23, 1999

FORT WORTH, Texas, Sept. 23 (UPI) Laboratory tests have revealed the gunman
who killed eight people, including himself, in a Fort Worth church last week
was not under the influence of alcohol or any other drug.
Dr. Nizam Peerwani, the Tarrant County medical examiner, also reported
Wednesday that he found no signs of brain tumors or other abnormalities in
the body of Larry Gene Ashbrook.

Police, who are reviewing more than 70 witness statements, have found no
explanation for Ashbrook's shooting spree, but some experts say facts about
his life suggest he may have been mentally ill.

Ashbrook, who was described by neighbors as a moody loner, was disturbed
about his inability to keep a job, according to writings found in the home
he had shared with his father. He was also upset about his father's recent
death.

A spokesman for Ashbrook's family has said they were never aware of him
being diagnosed with a mental illness. The family donated his body to the
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas for research and
education.

Ashbrook walked into the Wedgwood Baptist Church during a youth rally Sept.
15, shooting and killing seven people, and then turning the handgun on
himself. Seven more people were wounded.

Related Stories
More funerals from church shooting (Sep 20 1:09 pm ET)
http://news.excite.com/news/u/990920/13/news-churchshoot

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[CTRL] Columbine Confession

1999-09-24 Thread Ric Carter

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http://news.excite.com/news/u/990923/15/news-columbine

Shooter's diary published on-line

Updated 3:41 PM ET September 23, 1999

DENVER, Sept. 23 (UPI) An on-line magazine has published portions of a diary
it says was written by Eric Harris, one of two students at Columbine High
School who shot 15 people dead last April, including themselves.
In one excerpt carried by http://salon.com/ Salon.com, Harris allegedly
writes, "I hate the f___ world."

But the journal has only about a dozen entries over a one-year period, and
the Denver Post on Thursday reported Jefferson County Sheriff John Stone as
saying the diary may not be authentic.

"The theme sounds the same, but not the words," Stone said. "I think we've
got a bogus deal there. I don't believe those are legitimate excerpts."

In the alleged journal entries, Harris appeared to hate indiscriminately. He
aimed his venom at blacks, Hispanics, whites, slow drivers and even Star
Wars buffs.

One entry reads: "You know what I hate? Star Wars fans: Get a friggin' life,
you boring geeks. You know what I hate? People who mispronounce words, like
'acrost,' and 'pacific' for 'specific,' and 'expresso' instead of
'espresso.' You know what I hate? People who drive slow in the fast lane,
God, these people do not know how to drive. You know what I hate? The WB
network Oh Jesus, Mary Mother of God Almighty, I hate that channel with
all my heart and soul."

The excerpts offer solutions that range from global to local.

"If you recall your history, the Nazis came up with a 'final solution' to
the Jewish problem: Kill them all," an entry read. "Well, in case you
haven't figured it out yet, I say, 'Kill mankind.' No one should survive."

Then later: "I live in Denver, and dammit, I would love to kill almost all
of its residents."

At some point Harris focused on his school and wrote in a forward- looking
passage: "Don't blame the school. Don't f___ put cops all over the place.
Just because we went on a killing spree doesn't mean everybody else will.
The admin. is doing a fine job as it is. I don't know who will be left after
we kill, but dammit, don't change any policy just because of us."

Another entry delivered a morbid threat, saying, "If there's any way in this
f_ -up universe we can come back as ghosts, we'll haunt the life of any one
who blames anyone besides me and V (vodka)."

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Cokeheads' Country

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Wall Street Journal
September 24, 1999
Editorial

Review  Outlook

The Cokeheads' Country

If it weren't for the fact that so many Americans working for
Fortune 1000 companies think the most important thing in life is
sucking cocaine up their noses, nobody in the U.S. would much
care about Colombia. But the reality is that tens of thousands
of Colombians -- peasants, judges, mayors, journalists--have
died with bullets in their heads so that American office workers
could feel unusually good about themselves for a few hours.
Until George Soros spends enough money to make recreational
drugs legal at corporate lunches, it will be America's problem
that the sovereign nation of Colombia is on its way to becoming
the world's first drug republic.

Alas, Colombia is a case study in how U.S. policy makers fail at
what they get paid to do.

Colombia is a nation of 38 million people, where a homicidal
guerrilla movement's modus operandi is to invade a town, murder
the mayor, open the jails and start taxing the peasantry who
raise coca plants for the drug lords. The heavily armed
guerrillas then protect everybody in the production line from
the Colombian military and police. Because of the resulting
stalemate, Colombia's hapless president has effectively ceded
control of an area about the size of Switzerland to the
guerrillas and their drug-gangster partners. In short, rural
Colombia is close to what a country will look like, say Russia,
when the law finally loses for good and the criminals win.
 [[Andres Pastrana]]
Colombia's President, Andres Pastrana, has been in the U.S. this
week to plead his case to the United Nations and to meet with
President Clinton and members of Congress. He wants $3.5 billion
in international aid. Colombia is the U.S.'s number one supplier
of cocaine. While coca cultivation is down in neighboring South
American countries, Colombia now reportedly looks like the coca
equivalent of a Nebraska cornfield.

So what have we done about all this?

In 1993, the Clinton administration shifted the emphasis of drug
control policy away from attacking drug traffickers along their
transit routes in favor of moving the anti-drug offensive into
the source countries. The weapon of choice is crop eradication.
Not surprisingly, Colombia since has grown increasingly violent.
Indeed, thanks to the healthy cocaine export market (that is,
American users) and a stepped-up effort to eradicate the plants,
guerrilla tax coffers are brimming. As a consequence of this
fiscal surplus, the gangsters are able to buy plenty of weapons.

In other words, with Colombia's guerrilla-gangster army armed to
the teeth, it is U.S. policy to fight them with herbicide. How
did U.S. policy arrive at such a dead-end?

Step one was to reach an American political consensus that
Colombia should be forbidden to use its army to fight back. The
Colombian army was portrayed in the U.S. and Europe as a "human
rights violator." The existing, largely incompetent army has
long been weakened by its own historic isolation from the
civilian government. But the U.S. Army program at Fort Benning,
Ga., which teaches Latin American officers how to behave like
professionals, has cut funding for students and is under
pressure to close.

Working out of this mindset, Congress says it is in favor of
sending military funds to Colombia to fight the drug lords, but
it can't be used to violate the human rights of the guerrillas.
So what's left? The U.S. exhorts Colombia to bomb the fields!

Without a modern, efficient army, Colombia can never establish
law and order outside the big cities. As a result of U.S.
policy, drug money from our value-free yuppies fuels a
law-of-the-jungle rural society in Colombia, where the winners
rob, kill, kidnap, maim, and extort the weak. This is the
manifesto of both the Marxist guerrillas and their enemies, the
vigilante paramilitary. Millions of peasants are caught in this
crossfire.

This thriving criminal underworld threatens to destabilize the
entire Andean region. Guerrillas are now popping up in Ecuador;
and they have long taken advantage of the wild, untamed
Venezuelan border area. The U.S. military withdrawal from the
Panama Canal also weakens the region.

With no upside in sight, President Pastrana wants to strike some
kind of a peace deal with the guerrillas, though they've
virtually made double-crossing his overtures an entertaining
national sport. Still, even the white-flag-waving president now
seems to recognize that reasonable negotiations require that the
state regain some control and that to do so Colombia is going to
need a strong, modern, professional army. We should help them
acquire it.

For now, though, it is de facto U.S. policy to deprive the
people of Colombia of any such ability to clean up their own
mess. So long as the Clinton administration and Congress are
willing to hold this position, they should stop whining all the
time about our drug problem with 

Re: [CTRL] Deceptive IRS Code Words

1999-09-24 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The courts are ultimately the ones who would decide any issue involved and
they always side with the IRS in all matters of "interpretation."

==
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The IRS HAS an interpretation of what someone who decides he/she is not
obligated to pay an income tax, for instance.  The IRS calls such "tax
protestors."

People HAVE won such cases.

An elderly couple in Michigan is taken to court every year by the IRS and
every year charges against them are dropped.

see:
http://www.denial-of-due-process.com/tp/ref/protester_def.htm

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[CTRL] Republicans Push Pentagon to Stay at Howard Air Base - Military Sets Up in Ecuador and Dutch Antilles

1999-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.nonviolence.org/for/panama/34.htm
A HREF="http://www.nonviolence.org/for/panama/34.htm"Republicans Push
Pentagon to Stay at Howard Air /A
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Number 27, July 1999
Panamá Update
Fellowship of Reconciliation Task Force on Latin America and the
Caribbean
995 Market St. #801, San Francisco, CA 94103
Tel: (415) 495-6334, Fax: (415) 495-5628, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Republicans Push Pentagon to Stay at Howard Air Base
Military Sets Up in Ecuador and Dutch Antilles
by John Lindsay-Poland
As U.S. troops gradually withdraw from Panama, the Pentagon is
scrambling for other sites in the region to conduct the military
operations carried out from the isthmus. In the wake of failed
negotiations for a military "counter-drug center" on U.S. bases in
 Panama, the Defense Department appears not to have had a "Plan B".
The U.S. Air Force signed short-term agreements with Ecuador and the
Netherlands in April to use three airfields for anti-drug flights in the
Caribbean -- the Dutch protectorates of Aruba and Curacao, and Manta,
Ecuador. The airfields replace Howard Air Base in Panama, where
operations ended on May 4 as part of implementing the Torrijos-Carter
Canal Treaties.

HANDOVER OF PANAMA BASE HINDERS ANTI-DRUG EFFORTS
Pubdate: Sun, 30 May 1999
Source: The Washington Post Page: A19
Author: Douglas Farah, Washington Post Foreign Service
The turnover of a U.S. military base to Panama earlier this month has
left a gaping hole in American counter-drug efforts in Central America
and the Caribbean, forcing the Clinton administration to scramble for
new facilities that can be used to track drug shipments from South
America.

All U.S. forces are scheduled to leave Panama, formerly headquarters for
the U.S. Southern Command, by the end of the year under terms of the
Panama Canal treaties. On May 1, Howard Air Force Base was turned over
to Panama, depriving the United States of a base for 22 surveillance
aircraft and causing a sharp drop in anti-drug coverage of the region.

To maintain a presence in the area, the Clinton administration has
hastily negotiated a short-term agreement with the Netherlands to
station aircraft at the airports in the Dutch Caribbean protectorates of
Aruba and Curacao. It negotiated a similar agreement with Ecuador to
station airplanes in the Pacific coast city of Manta.

Washington is seeking a third such agreement in Central America and, to
that end, is currently negotiating with Costa Rica. All of the new
airfields, however, will require substantial improvements -- including
new maintenance facilities and housing -- that will cost more than $100
million, Pentagon officials said.

U.S. aircraft flew about 2,000 surveillance missions out of Howard last
year, gathering intelligence for the United States and for counter-drug
forces in other countries in the region, officials said. Pentagon
officials said that even under ideal circumstances it will take two to
three years to regain the surveillance capability that existed in
Panama.

All the cocaine and most of the heroin used in the United States is
produced in South America and moved north by airplane or ship through
Central America and Mexico or through the Caribbean.

In a May 20 letter to Defense Secretary William S. Cohen, four
Republican congressmen warned that the loss of Howard has presented the
United States with "one of the worst disasters in our U.S. counterdrug
history."

"These counterdrug flights are essential for information sharing with
other countries in the region, for eradication and narcotics
interdiction," said the letter from representatives John L. Mica (Fla.);
Benjamin A. Gilman (N.Y.); Mark Edward Souder (Ind.); and Robert L. Barr
Jr. (Ga.). "Without these essential flights the department is creating a
wide open door to drug traffickers and destroying the first line of
defense against illegal narcotics traffickers."

The letter said that "failed negotiations" with Panama and "the absence
of adequate advance planning" had endangered the drug war.

Barry R. McCaffrey, the administration's national drug policy director,
said he was "worried" by the loss of Howard but blamed the delay in
getting the new bases operational on then-Panamanian President Ernesto
Perez Balladares, who, he said, had agreed privately to extend the U.S.
presence in Panama, then backed out last September.

"I'm very disappointed," McCaffrey said. "It has put us in a scramble."

Ana Maria Salazar, deputy assistant secretary of defense for drug
enforcement policy, said at a congressional hearing May 4 that the
Pentagon could not approach other countries about hosting U.S.
surveillance aircraft until after the talks with Panama formally ended.
This left very little lead time to put other agreements together, she
said.

The opening of the centers in Aruba and Curacao will eventually allow
the United States to fly about 65 percent of the surveillance missions
flown out of Howard last year, Pentagon officials said. That level