Bug#992214: RFS: nemo-compare/5.0.1-1 [ITP] -- Context menu comparison extension for Nemo file manager

2021-11-15 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Joshua,

please send me the details (git repo) and I will look into it.

Best

Norbert

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Re: Please help for Upstream package

2019-10-09 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Ko Ko Ye

I will look into the packages tomorrow. My Myanmar is a bit rusty, though. If 
someone else too up the job, please let me know.

Best

Norbert

On October 9, 2019 3:22:06 PM GMT+09:00, Ko Ko Ye`  wrote:
>Any update for sponsorship?
>
>[4] https://launchpad.net/ibus-table-burmese/
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/ibus-table-myanmar
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939173
>[5] https://keymagic.net
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/ibus-keymagic
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939176
>[6] https://mentors.debian.net/package/fonts-myanmar
>[7] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939174
>
>On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:47 AM Ko Ko Ye`  wrote:
>
>> Hi Sir / Madam
>>
>> I am Ko Ko Ye, Debian Fan and Ubuntu Team Leader at Myanmar.
>>
>> I am supporting debian base DFSG software.
>>
>> locales my_MM, shn_MM
>> [1] [2]
>>
>> keyboard "my" and "zg" xkb
>> xkeyboard 2.24 [3]
>>
>> ibus-table-myanmar
>> ibus-table-burmese
>> ibus-table-zawgyi
>> [4]
>>
>> ibus-keymagic-*
>> [5]
>>
>> now I am port to
>> fonts-myanmar [6] (aka) ttf-myanmar-fonts package
>>
>> who can sponsor or check fonts-myanmar package? #939174 [7]
>>
>> with regards.
>>
>> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-my
>> [2] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-shn
>> [3] https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/XKeyboardConfig/ v2.24
>> [4] https://launchpad.net/ibus-table-burmese/
>>  https://mentors.debian.net/package/ibus-table-myanmar
>>  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939173
>> [5] https://keymagic.net
>>  https://mentors.debian.net/package/ibus-keymagic
>>  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939176
>> [6] https://mentors.debian.net/package/fonts-myanmar
>> [7] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939174
>>
>> --
>>
>> with regards *Ko Ko Ye`*
>>
>> +95 97989 22022
>> +95 94500 22022
>> +95 9731 47907
>> kokoye2...@gmail.com
>> kokoye2...@ubuntu.com
>>
>> skype: kokoye2007
>> jitsi: kokoye2007
>>
>> http://ubuntu-mm.net
>> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/kokoye2007
>> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MyanmarTeam
>http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-mm
>>


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Re: Sample systemd service init file please

2014-12-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, T o n g wrote:
 +if HAVE_SYSTEMD

Shouldn't that be
ifdef HAVE_SYSTEMD
...
endif

 W: dbab: executable-not-elf-or-script etc/systemd/dbab.service

Remove the x bits from your service file?

 E: dbab: systemd-no-service-for-init-script dbab

Should be fixed by the above.

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Re: Sample Debian package to show-case all

2014-12-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014, T o n g wrote:
 - the latest standard of debian/rules file

THere is none. You can use dh ..., you can use the dh_* calls
directly, you can use cdbs, ...
I myself have packages with all kind of formats.

If it works out, using debhelper with dh is nice, but if you have
to start to override too many targets, I think it is better
to use dh_* calls directly.

 - the most simplified Makefile

do you mean rules:
%:
dh $@

 - how to build from ./configure

see above

 - how to properly put/handle .1 man file

in the above case, add to debian/manpages

 - how to properly put/handle .html doc file

depends what you want to do with them

 - how to properly name patch files

in a way that the maintainer understands the naming

So, my bottom line, there are many examples ... not one size fits
all.

Maybe someone can come up with a trivial
dh $@
rules file plus some debian/* files to showcase what you want. This
is what I would do.

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Re: Arasan

2014-11-30 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Peter,

is there any progress on that? Should I try to rebase my
work on the current git version of arasan? And did you
decide on the format of the git repo (upstream git
inclusion etc)?

Thanks to bringing this forward

Norbert

On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, Norbert Preining wrote:
 Hi Peter,
 
 On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Peter Pentchev wrote:
  Ahhh, I just filed ITP #771057 a couple of hours ago after Michel
 
 Ah, good idea, sorry that I didn't see that.
 
  [snip some interesting issues that I would have probably run into
   once I started actually packaging it...]
 
 I think it is only a trivial thing, compilation works, but
 the final linking with libz somehow does not find a few 
 references. SO either libz in the package is much older
 and some names change, or something else shabby is happening.
 
  Would you mind using a pkg-games repo for this?  I think we might even
  want to base our work on a clone of the upstream repo at
  https://github.com/jdart1/arasan-chess
  I could set up a pkg-games repo if you're okay with going this way...
 
 Sure, all fine with me, just let me know what I should do.
 
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Re: Arasan

2014-11-26 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Michel.

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Michel Van den Bergh wrote:
 Would anyone be interested in packaging (or just sponsoring) the
 chess engine Arasan?

Do you have a Debian package ready?

Anyway, I hacked one together, but it is not ready for
upload due to the embedded copy of libz. I have a patch that
removes and tries to dynamically link it (in debian/patches),
but that does not work - no idea why.

If someone wants to send patches, happy!

for amd64:

deb http://www.preining.info/debian/ arasan/
deb-src http://www.preining.info/debian/ arasan/

or get source:
dget http://www.preining.info/debian/arasan/arasan_17.4.0-0.1.dsc

or only the binary:
wget http://www.preining.info/debian/arasan/arasan_17.4.0-0.1_amd64.deb

Tried it with xboard, worked, but the binary is running 100% CPU time
even when it is my turn ... not good. Other engines sleep while it
is my turn.

THe installer tries to do some chmod u+s which I don't allow.
Probably for editing/adding some learned stuff (what I read from
the docs), but that is not an option.

If someone else wants to help/contribute, I push the current status
to a git repo for collaboration.


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Re: Arasan

2014-11-26 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Peter,

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Peter Pentchev wrote:
 Ahhh, I just filed ITP #771057 a couple of hours ago after Michel

Ah, good idea, sorry that I didn't see that.

 [snip some interesting issues that I would have probably run into
  once I started actually packaging it...]

I think it is only a trivial thing, compilation works, but
the final linking with libz somehow does not find a few 
references. SO either libz in the package is much older
and some names change, or something else shabby is happening.

 Would you mind using a pkg-games repo for this?  I think we might even
 want to base our work on a clone of the upstream repo at
 https://github.com/jdart1/arasan-chess
 I could set up a pkg-games repo if you're okay with going this way...

Sure, all fine with me, just let me know what I should do.

Norbert


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Re: Raleway and Open Sans fonts in Debian

2014-07-06 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sun, 06 Jul 2014, Paul Wise wrote:
 I've always wondered why TeX Live was packaged in this way, it seems
 like packaging individual CTAN packages would be better?

That was rejected in 2004 when I started packaging the first time TeX Live.
It would suddently mena 4500+ new packages.

SuSE is doing this - and they get a *lot* of flame wars for it ;-)

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Re: Raleway and Open Sans fonts in Debian

2014-07-06 Thread Norbert Preining
I just closed the bug that was reassigned ot TL.

Please *read* what I wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote:
 But there is a better way:
 * package the fonts yourself, in whatever format you need/have them
 * after this I will remove the packages from TeX Live and
   depend on your font packages

That means in an independent source package.

Debian TeX Live follows upstream's collection (with some historic
exception).

I will for sure not start packaging separate font families from
the TeX Live source packages.


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Re: Raleway and Open Sans fonts in Debian

2014-07-05 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi,

On Sat, 05 Jul 2014, Paul Gevers wrote:
 On 04-07-14 22:03, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote:
  Should I request splitting these fonts into individual packages? If yes,
  how do I do that?
 
 You can request a split. File it as a wishlist bug against the providing
 package (as you would with any bug). Also prepare yourself to get
 wontfix as a response.

Yes, for sure this will be a wontfix from the TeX Live side.

But there is a better way:
* package the fonts yourself, in whatever format you need/have them
* after this I will remove the packages from TeX Live and
  depend on your font packages

This has been done many many times by now.

Thanks

Norbert


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Re: Problem with package.info file

2014-01-19 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 19 Jan 2014, Josue Ortega wrote:
 E: wcalc: info-document-missing-dir-section usr/share/info/wcalc.info.gz
 E: wcalc: info-document-missing-dir-entry usr/share/info/wcalc.info.gz
 
 The file debian/wcalc.info initially had the following line:
 
 wcalc.info
 
 I've changed the file and I've added the following:
 
 INFO-DIR-SECTION Math
 START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY
 * wcalc: (wcalc).   Flexible command-line scientific calculator
 END-INFO-DIR-ENTRY

 Am I missing something?

Yes ...
.../debian/wcalc.info only contains the list of *file*names* 
that should be installed.
You should fix the wcalc.info that is actually installed, from
.../wcalc.info
(I guess), the one that is the actual info file ;-)

Norbert


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Re: Package review for autolatex

2013-09-29 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 29 Sep 2013, Andrew Shadura wrote:
 I think you also may try to get in touch with Debian TeX team (cc'ed)
 to discuss the best techniques of packaging TeX stuff.

Please send me a dget-able .dsc link. I will look into it.

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Re: Package review for autolatex

2013-09-29 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 29 Sep 2013, Stéphane GALLAND wrote:
 dget link:
 http://download.tuxfamily.org/arakhne/pool/universe/a/autolatex/autolatex_26.2-0arakhne3.dsc

I look into it if time allows - I am in Georgia (country) for teaching
with bad internet connection ...

Norbert


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Re: svn revs as version number

2013-06-03 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Felix,

On Mo, 03 Jun 2013, Felix Natter wrote:
 = The question is: Can we use 29618 (or svn29618 or r29618) as
 the debian version number (consistent with upstream) or do we have to

Sure!
29618-1
is completely reasonable.

In fact, it is a *good* version number, one that - unless they
change to git - will always increase, which means you don't need
epochs as long as you stay with the svn version numbers.

Version numbers are for people that need to see 0.8.3p3 and
the like ;-)

Norbert


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Bug#692240: RFS: poedit/1.5.4-1

2012-11-05 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Pedro,

On Mo, 05 Nov 2012, Pedro Ribeiro wrote:
 Maybe you could take a look at it.

Still not optimal. Is it on purpose that you do build without
translation memory?

From my build process:
...
checking for Berkeley DB = 4.7 (C++)... not found
configure: WARNING: cannot find Berkeley DB = 4.7, Poedit will build w/o 
translation memory feature
...
Debugging information:  no
Translation memory: no
Spellchecking:  yes
...

Doesn't that look like a missing build-dep? I see you are carrying the
libdb-dev
but it seems that nowadays poedit needs
libdb++-dev
because after installing that it works out nicely.

Please fix this in your repository and reupload, thanks a lot!

Best wishes

Norbert

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Bug#692240: RFS: poedit/1.5.4-1

2012-11-03 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Pedro,

On Sa, 03 Nov 2012, Pedro Ribeiro wrote:
   http://mentors.debian.net/package/poedit

I am interested in that, since I have been building my own 1.5pre packages
since quite some time... but ..

* building in a clean cowbuilder does not succeed, could be a cowbuilder issue:
$ sudo /usr/sbin/cowbuilder --build --buildresult . poedit_1.5.4-1.dsc

fakeroot is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
I: Copying back the cached apt archive contents
I: Copying source file
I: copying [/home/norbert/Debian/poedit/poedit_1.5.4-1.dsc]
I: copying [/home/norbert/Debian/poedit/poedit_1.5.4.orig.tar.gz]
I: copying [/home/norbert/Debian/poedit/poedit_1.5.4-1.debian.tar.gz]
I: copying [/home/norbert/Debian/poedit/SIGNATURE-]
cp: cannot stat `/home/norbert/Debian/poedit/SIGNATURE-': No such 
file or directory

* building in the running system also dies:
$ dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot
...
   dh_auto_clean
Buildfile: /home/norbert/Debian/poedit/poedit-1.5.4/build.xml

BUILD FAILED
Target clean does not exist in the project Poedit. 



But I guess the same build failure would happen in the cowbuilder, too.

Can you fix that, please?

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: Modifications of the changelog.

2012-04-24 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi,

On Di, 24 Apr 2012, Ben Finney wrote:
 To say it more plainly: Modifying previous changelog entries, while not
 prohibited, does break an implicit user expectation. I think that
 expectation is reasonable to an extent, and breaking it is costly to the
 same extent.

But there are good reasons to do it at some point, like a new
upstream actually fixed some bugs, and it was realized only afterwards.
So I close the bug per email with a version header indicating the
version where it is fixed, and later I change the old changelog
entry
* new upstream release (Closes: )
and add a few more bugs there.

I consider this reasonable, but in general, I agree it is better to
refrain from too wild rewritting of changelog entries.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: RFS: bibtool/2.54 (new upstream release) -- tool for BibTeX database manipulation

2012-02-25 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 25 Feb 2012, lina wrote:
 For the  journal  = jbioch,
 
 It transformed the Upper case into small case.
 
 supposed to be journal = JBIOCH

Is JBIOCH a bibtex string defined via
@string{JBIOCH=...}
?

I am not sure but maybe @strings in bibtex are case insensitive ...
don't know, did you try?

If not, then this should be a proper bug report and does not
withhold any upload.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: RFS: bibtool/2.54 (new upstream release) -- tool for BibTeX database manipulation

2012-02-24 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Jerome,

On Sa, 25 Feb 2012, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
dget -x 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/b/bibtool/bibtool_2.54+ds-1.dsc

Comments:
texdoc does still not find the bibtool.pdf, you have to run
mktexlsr /usr/share/texmf
(and make sure that mktexlsr is installed) or better run
dh_installtex

changelog:
+bibtool (2.54+ds-1) unstable; urgency=low
+
...
+  * Repack the source to gain some substantial weight by wiping out the
+third-party old library regex-0.12 source, which is unnecessary as Debian
+use regex from glibc, and material meant for non UN*X systems.

Did you mean loose some substantial weight??? gain is increase.

copyright:
see above, plus:
and material material meant
doulbe material

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Should I upload it like it is or do you want to provide a new -1 version?
I am fine with both.

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Re: RFS: bibtool/2.54 (new upstream release) -- tool for BibTeX database manipulation

2012-02-24 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 25 Feb 2012, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
 may I send you an email when the new version will be uploaded ?

Sure.

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Re: RFS: JLDrill

2011-06-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Do, 16 Jun 2011, Mike Charlton wrote:
 http://sakabatou.dyndns.org/devel/jldrill/jldrill-0.5.1/jldrill_0.5.1-10.dsc

FTBFS ... clean chroot of sid, I get this:

dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Mike Charlton mikekc...@gmail.com
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
 dpkg-source --before-build jldrill-0.5.1
 fakeroot debian/rules clean
dh_testdir
dh_testroot
rm -f build-stamp configure-stamp
# Add here commands to clean up after the build process.
rake clean_debian
(in /tmp/buildd/jldrill-0.5.1)
rake aborted!
Could not find RubyGem rspec (= 1.3.1)
/tmp/buildd/jldrill-0.5.1/Rakefile.rb:4
(See full trace by running task with --trace)
make: *** [clean] Error 1
dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2
E: Failed autobuilding of package

...?

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Re: RFS: gummi - GTK+ based LaTeX editor with auto refreshing preview pane

2010-12-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 10 Dez 2010, Daniel Stender wrote:
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gummi/gummi_0.5.5-1.dsc

Looks nice, builds in clean chroot, my biggest wishlist needs to
wait till 0.6 afais from the gummi webpage, synctex support :-(

Best

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Re: RFS: gummi - GTK+ based LaTeX editor with auto refreshing preview pane

2010-12-08 Thread Norbert Preining
On Do, 09 Dez 2010, Daniel Stender wrote:
 I've pushed the latest 0.5.4 as initial release as gummit.git/debian to 
 collab-maint @ Alioth when

Can you provide a dget-able source?

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Re: RFS: xpdf (updated package)

2010-06-21 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 21 Jun 2010, Rogério Brito wrote:
   It seems to depend on wxlua, right? Is this packaged in our
   archives?  I didn't find the necessary headers, but I am interested
   in trying it out, sure.
  
  No, not packaged. That is the reason I started on it for packaing.
 
 Thank you very much for packaging it.

Surely not!!! Good joke! As if I haven't enough hanging around me 
Furthermore, I am definitely not the one capable enough to package
wxlua packages .

  http://www.logic.at/people/preining/software/psv.tar.gz
 
 I just downloaded it and it is fine for high res looks on the file.

Fine? It is incredible for small details and good layout analysis!

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Re: RFS: snap2 rsync-based backup program with GUI (with Debian source)

2010-06-15 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 15 Jun 2010, Lloyd Standish wrote:
 Debian source: http://files.lstandish.com/snap2-source

 The package appears to be lintian-clean.

How do you come to that idea?

I unpacked your package, built it with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot,
and run lintian on the resulting package:
$ ls
rules.norbert*snap2_4.16-1_amd64.changes  snap2_4.16.orig.tar.gz
snap2-4.16/   snap2_4.16-1.diff.gz
snap2_4.16-1_all.deb  snap2_4.16-1.dsc
$ intian snap2_4.16-1_amd64.changes 
W: snap2 source: debhelper-but-no-misc-depends snap2
W: snap2 source: dh-clean-k-is-deprecated
E: snap2 source: debian-rules-missing-required-target binary-arch
W: snap2 source: ancient-standards-version 3.7.3 (current is 3.8.4)
$

So I fixed those things and build a new package, now it is lintian clean.

I attach a fixed debian/rules file (too many diffs) in which I also
removed those lines that are completely useless. The generated rules
file should only be a starting point and you should tailor it to your needs,
removing unused stuff.

Furthermore, the control file needs a change:
@@ -3,12 +3,12 @@
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: Lloyd G. Standish ll...@crnatural.net
 Build-Depends: debhelper (= 7)
-Standards-Version: 3.7.3
+Standards-Version: 3.8.4
 Homepage: http://www.linuxbackups.org
 
 Package: snap2
 Architecture: all
-Depends: rsync (=2.5.7), openssh-client(=1:5.1p1-5), bash (= 2.05a-11), sed 
(= 3.02-8), grep (= 2.4.2-3), coreutils (= 5.0-5), gtkdialog
+Depends: rsync (=2.5.7), openssh-client(=1:5.1p1-5), bash (= 2.05a-11), sed 
(= 3.02-8), grep (= 2.4.2-3), coreutils (= 5.0-5), gtkdialog, ${misc:Depends}
 Description: A fast, easy-to-use rsync-based backup program with GUI
  snap2 combines the convenience of full backups with the speed and backup
  storage economy of incremental backups.
---

So changing the Standards version and addin ${misc:Depends} to the dependencies.

After that it is lintian clean,..

BUT: You have a dependency on 
gtkdialog
but there is no package gtkdialog anymore, and also the file is gone
(but in m68k arch, please see packages.debian.org and search for
gtkdialog file).

SO I am not sure how this program should run?

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dh_link usr/share/man/man1/snap2.1 usr/share/man/man1/snap2engine.1 
usr/share/man/man1/snap2.1 usr/share/man/man1/snap2shell.1
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dh_fixperms
dh_installdeb
dh_gencontrol
dh_md5sums
dh_builddeb

binary: binary-indep
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Re: RFS: snap2 rsync-based backup program with GUI (with Debian source)

2010-06-15 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 15 Jun 2010, Lloyd Standish wrote:
 Of course I came to that idea by running lintian (Lintian v1.24.2.1+lenny1) 
 against the binary deb.  It reported nothing (clean).  I think the problem is 
 that I am running the Debian stable (Lenny) version of dpkg-dev, and you are 
 probably running sid.  I see now that for software intended for sid I should 
 run the sid versions of these tools.


No, the problem is that you run it *ONLY* on the binary package and *NOT*
on the source package. Best is to:
- unpack the source package
- build it with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot (or any other 
  incantantion you like)
- after that you have in the parent dir a .changes files that lists
  the binary and source package files
- on that changes file you run lintian (as shown in my previous email)

If you do that on lenny it will the same spit out warnings over warnings!

 I also see that I overlooked that the binary-arch target is required - sorry.

That is why lintian is for, and it is working, also on lenny. Only you
didn't use it the right way.

 It did not occur to me to check for gtkdialog in Sid (it is available in 
 Lenny http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gtkdialog).  So, until there is a 
 gtkdialog package in Sid, snap2 cannot run.  This is a great disappointment - 
 I put a lot of effort into this, my first Debian package.

Check for zenity, but you have to adjust the way it is invoced, AFAIS
the --program option is not present.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-12 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
 No, it is exactly correct and one of the important improvements of v3
 that the .orig.tar.gz's debian/ dir is completely removed.

Contraticted, I agree that v3 has lots of improvements, that is not
one of it.

Wasn't there *one* point in the list of improvements that other
people, not Debian, can easily see what are the changes done *by*Debian*,
while we are now incorporating all debian related thnigs into it.

Anyway, *I* don't care, but I keep upstream debian dirs if they are there,
and try to convince them to *not* ship them and I will care for the rest,
but if they ship them, so it be.

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Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-12 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 11 Jun 2010, Russ Allbery wrote:
 I don't think this has the implication that it sounds like you believe it
 has.  Suppose that you're packaging something where upstream includes a

Thanks Russ, I completely agree. In fact I ask upstream to not ship
debian.

I only wanted to make clear that it is *possible* and *permissible*
that the .orig.tar.gz ships a debian/ directory, against those strange
creatures crying out loud No that is against policy without checking
it actually.

 So it really has very little impact on your workflow (although the
 packaging helpers need to correctly handle importing new upstream source,

I agree.

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Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 While it is ok to keep your debian folder in your VCS, remember that
 your orig.tar.gz should NOT contain it. It's less of an issue if you use
 source format 3.0 (Quilt) but this is still the policy in Debian.

That is a recommendation, but by far not a necessity!!!

Of course upstream can ship all necessary debian files as is, where is 
the problem? Then the diff would be empty, or the debian.tar.gz would
be empty, and that is fine.

OTOH, it is often recommended that upstream developer and Debian
packager are different, and keep the files separately, but it is
by far not a must!

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Re: RFS: xpdf (updated package)

2010-06-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 11 Jun 2010, Rogério Brito wrote:
 I am very confused with the svn repo of texlive. I did find an
 apparently unpatched version of ps_view (is its name there psv?), but no
 adaptations.

Hmm, maybe I missed that we are in line now ...

  Well, I have it running here, too, but I am too lazy to make a package
  for Debian for it.
 
 It seems to depend on wxlua, right? Is this packaged in our archives? I
 didn't find the necessary headers, but I am interested in trying it out,
 sure.

No, not packaged. That is the reason I started on it for packaing.

If you just want to try it once and are using amd64 then get
http://www.logic.at/people/preining/software/psv.tar.gz
it contains a dir that can be stowed/graft-ed/whatever into your
/usr/local hierarchy, or run the scripts simply from the unpacked dir,
easy to understand.

Then try zooming in to under-one-character level, or add grids to 
check the layout for your document.

I would say it is not the perfect viewer for quick what-was-in-that-pdf-again,
but if you want to check layouts, designs, graphics, fonts, carefully
read, it is the best option IMHO.

Best wishes

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Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 Quite not!!! It is even written in many places that if the upstram ships a 
 debian folder in its tar.gz, we should get in touch and at least ask that it 
 is renamed as debian-upstream or something similar. If you do not trust what 
 I say, go read the policy, new maint manual and such.

Where please???

Please do not state things without reference.
I just read skipped the policy without finding *any* statement on first
sight dealing wiht the existence of debian subdir in the upstream sources.

No I don't trust people stating it is like taht and that... unless proof
is given otherwise.

And newmaint is *NOT* a policy document. I said clearly that it is
recommendable to separate the two, but I didn't state that it is
a must.

  OTOH, it is often recommended that upstream developer and Debian
  packager are different, and keep the files separately, but it is
  by far not a must!
 
 IT IS a must that the debian folder is NOT in the orig.tar.gz, even if 
 upstream is also the packager. What you are describing here is what we call a 
 debian native package, which is really limited to very specific cases.

Please provide pointers instead of vague statements like consult the policy

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Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Paul Wise wrote:
  Of course upstream can ship all necessary debian files as is, where is
  the problem? Then the diff would be empty, or the debian.tar.gz would
  be empty, and that is fine.
 
 One of the ways dpkg-source v3 differs from dpkg-source v1 is that any
 debian/ directory in the orig.tar.gz is removed before the
 debian.tar.gz is unpacked. So debian.tar.gz cannot be empty and the
 upstream debian/ directory if any is irrelevant.

That is not compliant with what it *SHOULD* do. If there is a debian
dir in upstream (again, anyone showing me the policy point forbidding
that) then files in their should be replaced or whatever, but
it is not correct (IMHO) that these files are removed.

(Again this v3 pain is coming up)

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Re: RFS: xpdf (updated package)

2010-06-06 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 06 Jun 2010, Jakub Wilk wrote:
 The problem is that interfaces used by software like texlive, cups,  
 inkscape or pdf2djvu are considered private by poppler developers[2].
[...]
 [2] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7054

So, that means for me that:
- I will stop compiling TeX Live including surrounding programs with
  poppler but use the built in xpdf library
- security team will have loads of pain to support, but I cannot
  care for that
- I will actively try to *REMOVE* support for poppler in upstream
  TeX Live and surrounding binaries, as it is anyway useless

If this is the way poppler is going ... so it be. 

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Re: RFS: xpdf (updated package)

2010-06-06 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 06 Jun 2010, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 Could we instead try to collaborate between xpdf and texlive?  I only
 had to apply four small few-line patches to get xpdf with poppler
 working, which isn't that overburdensome.  I can do this for future

But probably texlive uses more than xpdf itself?

Currently, between the version of poppler we did support upstream in
TeX Live and 0.12 suddenly 
pdf_doc-doc-getPDFVersion();
disappeared, and delete r-font does not work anymore [1]. Arggg, of course
it is not much, but it is a willingly created pain. See the history of
poppler pain in [2] where all the patches are hanging around.

Best wishes

Norbert

[1] 
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-tex/texlive2009/trunk/texlive-bin/debian/patches/libpoppler-0.12
[2] 
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-tex/texlive2009/trunk/texlive-bin/debian/patches/

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Re: RFS: xpdf (updated package)

2010-06-05 Thread Norbert Preining
On Do, 03 Jun 2010, Rogério Brito wrote:
 Hi, there.
 
 On Jun 03 2010, Stanislav Maslovski wrote:
  This change is for sure quite significant. BTW, do you know if the
  internal code in xpdf is equivalent feature wise to poppler? I know
  that poppler was a spin-off of the rendering code of xpdf. Do you know
  how much they deviate one from another?
 
 I have been keeping in touch with Michael about such smaller version of
 xpdf and, in fact, I started a xpdf-poppler project, that I announced at

One more comment on that from the Debian TeX Team: As TeX is using
the xpdf code in several places, we (first Ubuntu patch, updated
regularly now by us and them together) patched the sources to
allow compilation with poppler and xpdf, and this was pushed also
upstream.

BUT: It is a BIG BIG BIG PITA Poppler people are simply completely
ignorant wrt to breaking API. If you look into the amount of
different patches we had to create for poppler 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 0.10, 0.12
and so on, I am sure this will continue. 

SO actually I considered to switch back to the embedded xpdf code
for Debian texlive packages, just to get rid of that stupid problems:
new poppler hits unstable, changes API at random, so texlive FTBFS

In fact I never got any answer on my (more polite than here) requests 
from them. 

I am not sure if basing anything new on poppler is actually a good idea.
Martin Schröder once at a BachoTeX conference gave a good overview
on different pdf libraries, and I hope with time a decent one will show
up and be used in as many places as possible. Poppler people unfortunately
do everything to make this fail.

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Re: RFS: xpdf (updated package)

2010-06-04 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Rogério,

On Do, 03 Jun 2010, Rogério Brito wrote:
 http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog/2010/05/27/please-let-me-zoom-my-documents/

I read that, and might I suggest ps_view? (also pdf viewer). It is 
installed by default on TeX Live on Windows, and it is available
form source forege. It is *MINIMAL* small, uses lua, some ps code,
and it is hundredthousandtimes better than any ps/pdf viewer I have
seen. You can zoom ad infinitum, because it is the only program
that does not render the full page, but uses PS clipping. It has nice
rulers for evaluating the desing, etc etc etc 

Probably the best place to get it is from the TeX Live svn/rsync
as we did the necessary chagnes.

Well, I have it running here, too, but I am too lazy to make a 
package for Debian for it.

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Re: RFS: latexila

2010-04-28 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 27 Apr 2010, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:
 - dget 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/latexila/latexila_0.2.0-1.dsc

Some comments:
- please remove the header in debian/rules Sample debian/rules
  it is not a sample file anymore, write a decent header.
- debian/control:
  your recommends/suggests for tex are not really good. I would suggest
  to use
Recommends: texlive
  Only with texlive-latex-base you cannot run anything real, while texlive
  which in turn is the collection of the -recommended packages you can
  do most things.

Other than that it looks fine and built fine in my pbuilder.

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It might be very useful.
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Re: RFS: latexila

2010-04-28 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 28 Apr 2010, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:
  - please remove the header in debian/rules Sample debian/rules
it is not a sample file anymore, write a decent header.
 
 Indeed. Is there a need for any header except the shabang, or can I
 simply remove the default sample header?

Yes you can remove all but the shebang, but some comments might be 
useful, about who did it, what, for what packages ;-) But not 
obligatory.

 makeindex. So I shall put Recommends: texlive instead.

And forget the Suggests:

 Should I increase the Debian version number of my package before I
 upload a new revision?

No, you *should* not, because nothing has been uploaded. Just tell 
me when you have uploaded a newer version to mentors, please again
with the dget line ;-)

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Re: RFS: latexila

2010-04-28 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 28 Apr 2010, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
  No, you *should* not, because nothing has been uploaded. Just tell 
  me when you have uploaded a newer version to mentors, please again
  with the dget line ;-)
 
 Interesting, I always advise people to bump the Debian version as soon
 as they've distributed it at all anywhere, to avoid confusion by any who

I don't do that, but I recommend people to use
-1~1
-1~2
etc until there is an ok, then build a 
-1
and let it go.

 Is there official guidance on this issue anywhere?

Not that I know of, maybe it is just my own way of doing it.

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Re: RFS: latexila

2010-04-28 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 28 Apr 2010, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:
  - please remove the header in debian/rules Sample debian/rules
  - debian/control:
your recommends/suggests for tex are not really good. I would suggest
to use Recommends: texlive
 
 Updated.

Uploaded. Thanks for your contribution. I hope you will keep maintaining
that package in future.

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Re: Request for a Mentor

2009-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 29 Nov 2009, Heath Matlock wrote:
 Hi, I'm packaging PythonOCC, and could use a mentor during the
 process. I've just now sent in a WNPP/ITP bug report as well:
 
 Bug#558647: ITP: pythonocc -- pythonocc is a computer program whose
 purpose is to provide a complete set of python bindings for the
 OpenCascade library as well as the GEOM Salome package
 
 Hope to hear from one of you soon, best regards.

Well put the ready package somewhere one can get it and ask again here,
that is the way.

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Re: RFS: pidgin-skype

2009-11-03 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 03 Nov 2009, Don Armstrong wrote:
 provide assurances that the SVG no longer exists at all. You probably
 also should be generating the icons on the fly from the SVG using
 inkscape as you build the package.

What??? That is a joke, right?

If everyone would start using inkscape for building icons that are pre-made
then ... well, build-deps are exploding.

I consider this wrong behaviour.

Finally to the OP: BTW, you have to cut out the brain of upstream
and include a digitized version of it in your source, becasue that one
is the preferred version of editing, and the real source.

Guys you are getting ridicuolous.

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Re: RFS: pidgin-skype

2009-11-03 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 04 Nov 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
 I would rather stick to the interpretation that the preferred form of
 modification is the one upstream uses, even if we think this is not optimal 
 and
 we would prefer he had done another way. 

Thanks, yes!

BTW; If you use
help2man
the preferred source is the *binary*?

I agree with you, that is really strange what is going on here.

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Re: RFS: gwaei

2009-10-15 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear Asumu-san,

On Do, 15 Okt 2009, Asumu Takikawa wrote:
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package gwaei. I uploaded version 1.0 a 
 few

I missed that one.

In the meantime I have worked a bit with Zach on the Debian packaging.

Please PLEASE chekc out the current git repository, there are already
many changes I suggested, like moving kpengine to /usr/lib/gwaei,
and a working (but probably suboptimal) deiban rules etc etc.

Sorry that I haven't seen your request last time, I would have
spent less time doing the work myself, and more helped you.

Let me know what you plan, thanks a lot!

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Re: ia32-apt-get: Striking my colors

2009-07-04 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 04 Jul 2009, Mark Hymers wrote:
 My problem with this, as I said earlier, is that it doesn't deal with
 the partial upgrade problem from versions  22 to the new/old ia32-libs

Irrelevant, that is sid. Would only be a problem if that version is in
stable. Just upload I would say.

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Re: Questions about the changelog file

2009-04-17 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 17 Apr 2009, Laurent Léonard wrote:
 Is there a standard or a recommendation for the content of the changelog 
 file ?

Hmm, I guess it is up to you but it should be informative for
developers, and it should be clear.

Taking some examples:

 - Is it better to specify the modified file or not ? For example if I add a 
 build dependency, should I specify I added it to debian/control ?

Well, every DD or DM knows that a build-dep is added to debian/control,
so I never write:
debian/control: add build dependency on ...
But if you want to do so then it is fine, too.

I guess the point is that you have to find your own style so that *you*
know what you have done, and that others can at least deduce what you
have done with some common knowledge.

 - Is it better to specify the file concerned by the change at the beginning 
 of 
 the sentence before a : character ? Or included in the sentence ?

Again, either or. I normally do not include these things at all.

 - Is there an order for the changes (importance...) ?

Again up to you. I leave it normally the way I added it with dch during
development. But sometimes when merging some experimental intermediate
releases I regroup the entries ordered by importance.

 - Is it better to end the sentence by a final point or not ?

Hehe, that is a good questions (mind the missing full stop ;-)

 - Should I use for example:
 Added ..., Fixed ..., Updated ...
 or Add ..., Fix ..., Update ... ?

Again, find your own style. There is no technical pro or con for each of
that. I guess what you prefer is what you will use.

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Re: RFS: thailatex 0.4.2-4 (updated package)

2008-06-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 16 Jun 2008, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 Umm.. With the difference between your and my timezones,
 I'm given time to fix it while you're sleeping. So, I've updated
 it at the same location:
 
   http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/thailatex/thailatex_0.4.2-4.dsc
 
 Please fetch it again.

Uploaded. Thanks for your contribution.

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Re: RFS: thailatex 0.4.2-4 (updated package)

2008-06-15 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 15 Jun 2008, Norbert Preining wrote:
 I will check it and upload it ...

W: thailatex: doc-base-unknown-section thailatex:6 Tex

It is fine with me, but please call it 
TeX
not 
Tex
... ;-)

Thanks.

Should I do the change, or do you have reasons for 'Tex'?

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Re: RFS: thailatex 0.4.2-4 (updated package)

2008-06-15 Thread Norbert Preining
HI Theppitak,

On So, 15 Jun 2008, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 The package has been updated with a different fix for
 bashism. So, please re-fetch it if you have already loaded

I will check it and upload it ...

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Re: RFS: Scid and TeXSkak

2008-04-01 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear Willem,

On Mo, 31 Mär 2008, W. van den Akker wrote:
 the fact that I take over the Scid (and latter TexSkak) package.

I cannot do anything concerning the Scid package, but everything related
to TeX I would suggest that you contact the Debian TeX Task Force under
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skak/skaknew etc etc are problematic things, because it is not easy to
set them up correctly. As upstream maintainer I was talking to several
of the contributors of skak/skaknew/chessfs/... to get all the updated
stuff into TeX Live, so they will end up anyway in the TeX Live 2008
packages sooner or later.

If you prefer to maintain skak and related stuff independently that is
fine with me/us and we will blacklist the stuff out of the TeX Live
packages. But be prepared that the skak business is not the easiest one
(ok, for from being the most complicated one, too).

 Which of you mentors would like to check and upload the package and help me
 to become a Debian maintainer.

If you have packages ready, let me know (and the DTTF mentioned above)
and I will check them, I mean the TeX related stuff.

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Re: RFS: thailatex (updated package)

2008-02-19 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 18 Feb 2008, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 Would this be OK? Should it be uploaded?

Uploaded.

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Re: RFS: thailatex (updated package)

2007-12-28 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Paul, hi Theppitak,

I have followed the thread (as Debian TeX maintainer) but I was too late
in fetching the package, and now it cannot be found on the mentors
server anymore, and it is not already in the pool of ftp.debian.org. So
no other comments from my side ...

On Fr, 28 Dez 2007, Paul Wise wrote:
  now co-exist. So, it's just patched and installed as-is. What I need to
  do is keep it synchronized with texlive.
 
 Ah. Perhaps it would be appropriate to ask the upstream texlive people
 to add the patch in the next version?

That will not work since we would need thailatex installed in any case.
Best would be if the ldf file is submitted to the babel maintainers so
that it will be included into the next babel release (thus in TeX Live
upstream, thus in Debian).

In reality a better mechanism would be nice, but who is up to writing
something replacing babel of fixing babel to load according to a config
file.

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Re: RFS: alqalam

2007-10-08 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Ahmed,

On Mo, 08 Okt 2007,   wrote:
  - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/a/alqalam

I have some comments:
- can you please remove the useless dh_ calls in debian/rules? You don't
  need: dh_link and dh_strip. Also the header Example bla bla could
  be changed to something sensible
- there is a problem with the tb87fahmy.pdf file, the source is missing.
  I know this is something difficult, but we cannot upload stuff which
  doesn't have a source a side.
- please remove the tetex dependencies, tetex is gone. This should be
  done for arabtex,too. BTW, I see that arabtex seems to be
  unmaintained, are you interested?

Otherwise I can upload.

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Re: RFS: alqalam

2007-10-08 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 08 Okt 2007, Norbert Preining wrote:
 - there is a problem with the tb87fahmy.pdf file, the source is missing.
   I know this is something difficult, but we cannot upload stuff which
   doesn't have a source a side.

I forgot, this is a TUGboat article, I am sure Karl Berry will allow to
include the source, if you need help contacting him let me know. 

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Re: In-Program documentation

2007-09-04 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 04 Sep 2007, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
 1) Variant 1:
 I could install the files to /usr/share/doc, but not with dh_installdocs
  so that they don't get compressed and then link them to the target
 directory (/usr/share/password-gorilla).

dh_installdocs does not compress (AFAIR), it is dh_compress. And you can
give dh_compress the -X option to exclude those file from being
compressed.

 2) Variant 2:
 Install them to /usr/share/doc AND to the target directory.
 
 3) Variant 3:
 Install them only to the target directory.

Variant 4, probably to be preferred:
Install it into /usr/share/password-gorilla/ and add only a link from
/usr/share/doc/password-gorilla, so that they won't be compressed.

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Re: In-Program documentation

2007-09-04 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 04 Sep 2007, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
  Variant 4, probably to be preferred:
  Install it into /usr/share/password-gorilla/ and add only a link from
  /usr/share/doc/password-gorilla, so that they won't be compressed.
 
 So variant 4 is just variant 1, except that i don't use another install
 method. Just dh_compress -XLICENSE.txt -Xhelp.txt, then appropriate

Not even this is necessary, since dh_compress will not compress files in
/usr/share/password-gorilla/.

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Re: RFS: xpn

2007-09-03 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007, Jan C. Nordholz wrote:
  * xpn appears to be the first package you release, therefore it must not
   have a debian revision higher then -1. This has an affect on
   debian/changelog which should only contain one version.
 
 I don't remember that there was a consensus about whether unreleased versions
 should be kept in the changelog (link appreciated if someone knows better).
 This will depend on the sponsor's preference, and thus I wouldn't consider it
 a major problem (but IANADD either).

I guess it shouldn't be a problem to start real Debian life with a
revision higher than -1, but you have to take care that the .changes
file contains a reference to the .orig.tar.gz so that it is uploaded,
otherwise it will be missing.

But I never tried it.

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Re: Removing obsolete conffiles on upgrade

2007-02-08 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fre, 09 Feb 2007, Michael Biebl wrote:
 I have to get rid of the old conffile somehow (I formerly had two files
 foo and bar. In the new package version, the content of foo has been
 included in bar, so I want to get rid of foo, otherwise I get clashes).

Well the optimum solution is the following (all in preinst):

- If foo was unchanged from the original version (check md5sum) then
  just remove it
- otherwise *try* to merge the changes in foo into bar.
- if this is not possible, warn the admin that he has to manually update
  the settings in bar according to what he has done in foo.

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Re: RFS: liitex -- Lithuanian language support package for TeX

2006-09-26 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi!

On Die, 26 Sep 2006, K??stutis Bili??nas wrote:
  - why do you recommend tetex-extra? Is there a specific reason? And if
yes, could you provide an alternative rec on a texlive package?
 
 The main fonts for Lithuanian documents will be l7x-lm fonts, so
 I made the Depends: lmodern. The littex package also provides the
 urw family fonts - l7x-uxxx.tfm, which Lithuanians often uses too.
 So I made Recommends: tetex-extra, because this package provides
 the urw fonts. Now I made:
 Recommends: tetex-extra | texlive-fonts-extra 

Hmm, I believe it should be texlive-fonts-recommended, as all the 
basic URW fonts are there.

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Re: RFS: liitex -- Lithuanian language support package for TeX

2006-09-26 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi!

On Die, 26 Sep 2006, K??stutis Bili??nas wrote:
 This packages can be found on my repository at
 http://kebil.ghost.lt/debian/pool/littex/

Nice package, well done. SOme comments:

- build-depends on tex-common (= 0.19) would be good as this fixes a
  bug in dh_installtex. The bug doesn't hit you, but you might change
  once your way of calling dh_installtex and then. 

- remove unneeded dh_ calls (at least):
  dh_strip, dh_makeshlibs, dh_shlibdeps

- why do you recommend tetex-extra? Is there a specific reason? And if
  yes, could you provide an alternative rec on a texlive package?

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Re: Huge private Debian repository...

2006-08-30 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 I need an archive system like the Debian FTP's for woody, sarge, etch

I would take a look at apt-ftparchive

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Re: RFS: thailatex (orphaned package for babel-based Thai latex support)

2006-04-28 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fre, 28 Apr 2006, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 First, you should bump your versioned depends on tex-common to 0.19,
 since you need a working dh_installtex.
 
 That means replacing ${misc:Depends} with explicit info.
 Hmm.. OK. I've done it, as well as adding it to
 Build-Depends-Indep.

No hold on.

For the Build-Depends-Indep: you need tex-common = 0.19.

For the Depends: the misc:Depends is ok, you don't need higher
tex-common.

It is only needed for the build process as dh_installtex till 0.18 was
buggy.

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Re: RFS: thailatex (orphaned package for babel-based Thai latex support)

2006-04-26 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear Theppitak!

On Die, 25 Apr 2006, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 Thank you for your comments. I've tried to cover all of them.
 Please check the updated package at the old place:
   http://linux.thai.net/~thep/debian/source/thailatex/

I, too, took a look (texlive maintainer):

- You can remove postinst and postrm, the code in there is automatically
  generated by dh_installtex (update of the ls-r database, and calling
  updmap). The only reason one would have to use the original code is
  that it can be backported to woody (sarge already has tetex3).
  So I recommend to let dh_installtex generate all the necessary code.
  As there is no other code in postinst and postrm, you can actually 
  remove it from the debian directory. It will be created by debhelper
  if necessary.

- control:
  you could depend on tetex = 3 as the misc:Depends pulls in tex-common
  via the dh_installtex, so this cannot work with tetex2.

  Furthermore, please consider adding an alternative dependency for
  texlive. I don't know exactely what you need from tetex-bin/base, but
  one option would be 
tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin, tetex-base | texlive-latex-base
  (no versions at all necessary as misc:depends brings tex-common)

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Re: RFS: thailatex (orphaned package for babel-based Thai latex support)

2006-04-26 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear Theppitak!

On Mit, 26 Apr 2006, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
  - You can remove postinst and postrm, the code in there is automatically
generated by dh_installtex (update of the ls-r database, and calling
 
 Oh, yes, I didn't notice the package.post{inst,rm}.debhelper
 that are got generated. dh_installtex's manpage doesn't
 mention this additional handling.

From the man page of dh_installtex:
---
   This program automatically generates the postinst and postrm commands
   needed to register the fonts with TeX.  See dh_installdeb(1) for an
   explanation of how this works.
---
Ok, this could be extended. I will do this.

Furthermore, please consider adding an alternative dependency for
texlive. I don't know exactely what you need from tetex-bin/base, but
one option would be
  tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin, tetex-base | texlive-latex-base
(no versions at all necessary as misc:depends brings tex-common)
 
 Can I blindly add the dependency? How compatible is it
 between tetex and texlive?

What do you need from tetex-bin and tetex-base? Only the latex/tex
binary? Are there any files needed?

 Hmm.. Maybe, getting texlive to try is a good idea.
 How can I get it? It's not in sid, right?

in experimental, and an upload to unstable is in process (well, as soon
as my mentor finishes it).

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bug pages and source packages

2006-02-09 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Mentors!

Since I didn't get an answer as d-d, I try it here ... Hope I have more
luck!

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 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:57:20 +0100
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
 
 HI all!
 
 When I go to 
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=info
 it tells me 
   ... to the source package texinfo's bug page ...
 
 But when I go to
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=texlive-base-bin
 I don't see te link to the source package.
 
 Furthermore, bugs in the binary packages from src=texlive-bin do *not*
 occur on the qa.debian.org/developer.php page.

E.g.:
Bug nr 352092 is reported to texlive-pdfetex, which is build from
texlive-bin source package. But on the bug page:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=texlive-bin
nothing mentions this bug!

 Is the reason for this that the texlive packages are in experimental and
 not in unstable?
 
 Thanks a lot for any explanations!

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uscan and how to extract a version from a README file

2006-01-23 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all!

I want to add a watch file to a package but the upstream distribution is
in a directory *without* a version number, and the dir does not contain
a file with the version as part of the filename.

So now I want to extract the version from the README file which is
present in the directory.

AFAIU uscan does only match with href stuff, so this doesn't work with a
normal text file.

Is there any other way to extract the version from a plain text file?

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Re: RFS: tex4ht

2005-12-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fre, 09 Dez 2005, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
   http://www.imsc.res.in/~kapil/tex4ht/tex4ht/tex4ht_20051130-1.dsc

Now it is uploaded and close to be moved into the archive,
I `repackaged' it locally to depend | texlive-base-bin, I realized that 
there is a *stupid* error:

Package: tex4ht
...
Depends: ... tex4ht-files

But there is tex4ht-common and not -files!

Please before uploading be so nice and make an
upgrade/remove/install/purge/install-cycle test.

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Re: RFS: tex4ht

2005-12-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mit, 14 Dez 2005, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
 There is a new package version 20051214-1 at the same location.

Where? 
http://www.imsc.res.in/~kapil/tex4ht/
The requested URL /~kapil/tex4ht/ was not found on this server.

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Re: RFS: tex4ht

2005-12-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mit, 14 Dez 2005, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
 There is a new package version 20051214-1 at the same location.

Can you also include teh dependency:
tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin
instead of pure tetex-bin.

So users of the texlive packages can use it without having to get my
hacked packages.

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Building packages with epoch

2005-12-11 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear all!

I have a question concerning packages with epoch: We are preparing a NMU
(maintainer approved) for tipa which currently is of version
2:1.2-2
When I get the source package via apt-get source tipa and rebuild the
package with
dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot
I get a binary package called
tipa_1.2-2_all.deb
and not
tipa_2%3a1.2-2_all.deb

But the internal version number (in the control file) of the package 
is correct, as one can see when calling scanpackages I get a correct
entry:
Package: tipa
Version: 2:1.2-2

Any suggestions? What is the correct way to build packages with epoch?

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Re: Building packages with epoch

2005-12-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Son, 11 Dez 2005, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
  tipa_2%3a1.2-2_all.deb
 
 If the epoch should've been in the .deb, it'd be ':', not '%3a' (which
 is the URL escaping of it, and this is the filename, not the URL).
 
 This is correct -- the epoch is *not* included in the filenames.

Ahh, ok. But the file tipa_2%3a1.2-2_all.deb showed up like this in my
/var/cache/apt/archive when I download/installed it.

But you are right, on the debian archive there it is as
tipa_1.2-2_all.deb.

Thanks for pointing this out.

(for Frank: do you do the upload of the NMU on the tug pages?)

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Re: ppower4, java, and texive packages

2005-12-02 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fre, 02 Dez 2005, Frank Küster wrote:
  For kaffe you can depend on another free runtime like sablevm or
  java-gcj-compat too.
 
 Does ppower4 run with any of the free runtimes?

I have decided to kick it out of texlive completely, as the sources of
the jar file are not provided. And I cannot go after the sources.

I guess distributing a jar file without the sources is not allowed.

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Re: ppower4, java, and texive packages

2005-12-02 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Rogério!

On Fre, 02 Dez 2005, Rogério Brito wrote:
  I have decided to kick it out of texlive completely, as the sources of
  the jar file are not provided. And I cannot go after the sources.
 
 I think that I can ask the original author (again) to provide the
 sources.

You have to if you want to package it ;-)

 Would you be interested in team-maintaining ppower4 this in alioth? I
 think that team maintainance is the modern way to properly maintain
 packages in a distribution.

Create a pkg there, and add me to the list of people with svn access. I
will go through the stuff and see what I can improve. No problem with
me. preining-guest is my account.

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Re: ppower4, java, and texive packages

2005-12-02 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fre, 02 Dez 2005, Michael Koch wrote:
  I have decided to kick it out of texlive completely, as the sources of
  the jar file are not provided. And I cannot go after the sources.
  
  I guess distributing a jar file without the sources is not allowed.
 
 What jar is it? Perhaps its provided by another package in Debian
 already? Unfortunately its very common in java country to add third
 party jars into the own distribution tarball (without sources).

No it isn't. This jar actuallyimplements the ppower4 postprocessor, thus
it is not included in Debian. But we are working on it.

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Problematic perl file header and lintian

2005-11-16 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all!

I need help in fixing the following perl header, since lintian moans
that shell-script-fails-syntax-check:

#! /bin/sh
eval '(exit $?0)'  eval 'PERL_BADLANG=x;export PERL_BADLANG;: \
;exec perl -x -S -- $0 ${1+$@};#'if 0;
eval 'setenv PERL_BADLANG x;exec perl -x -S -- $0 $argv:q;#'.q+
#!perl -w
package Htex::a2ping; $0=~/(.*)/s;[EMAIL PROTECTED],'.';do($1);[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@;__END__+if !1;
# This Perl script was generated by JustLib2 at Wed Apr 23 09:14:13 2003.
# Don't touch/remove any lines above; http://www.inf.bme.hu/~pts/justlib

I can only say that it definitely works on a lot of systems, finds perl.
What I tried is removing all the stuff before the perl -w and changing
it to /usr/bin/perl -w, but this kicks the script into an endless loop.
Strange.

I attach the full script for your convenience.


Thanks a lot!

Best wishes

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a2ping.gz
Description: Binary data


Re: Request for beta testers for latex-cjk

2005-10-12 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Danai!

On Don, 13 Okt 2005, Danai SAE-HAN wrote:
 frank You probably know that teTeX 3 is in experimental?  I hope to bring it
 frank into unstable soon.
 
 Yup!  Is Debian/teTeX3 working as far as the font mechanism is
 concerned?  And how long before you think you can unleash teTeX3 in

Yes. And there are sample implementations how a font package should work
and what it should do at

  deb http://people.debian.org/~frn/teTeX-3.0-sample sid/binary-all/
  deb-src http://people.debian.org/~frn/teTeX-3.0-sample sid/source/

(Thanks to Florent).

Furthermore, someone mentioned he wants to write up an explanation into
the TeX-Policy guide.

 the unstable branch?  Because if it's within a month or so, then
 there's no need for me to ask my sponsor to upload the teTeX2
 dependant package now.

I guess (but I am not Frank) that within a month it should happen, quite
sure.

I would suggest that you take a look at the above lm-fonts package and
how fonts should be handled and make the package teTeX3 clean.

In fact it should be enough for the font part to depend on tex-common,
but see the lm package.

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Re: Putting accented characters in manpages?

2005-10-06 Thread Norbert Preining
On Don, 06 Okt 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
  So, I guess that's not only me that would benefit from some light from
  people from debian-mentors on what is the best-current-practice on
  getting accented characters on manpages.
 
 Basically, until UTF8 support is fully deployed for manpages (it isn't right
 now AFAIK), you have to refrain from using non-ASCII.

Well if the Name of the author contains latin1 characters, I would
suggest to include the letters. Otherwise it is just plain wrong.

Simple example: How to mention
Frank Küster

No, he is not called Kuster, nor Kuester, ...


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Installation of Type1 fonts

2005-10-03 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear developers (already DD or not)!

I am looking for a list/howto/explanation on what is useful when
installing type1 fonts for X11.

There is
. dh_installxfonts and /etc/X11/fonts/Type1/$(package).scale
  Ok, this is absolutely necessary I would say.

. dh_installdefoma and $(package).defoma-hints
  Hmm, defoma seems to me really a bit out-of-date in the sense that
  I don't see any use for it. Activating a font for fontconfig should
  be enough to get it working with most applications in Debian, sin't
  it?

. fontconfig: should I call fc-cache -s after installation of fonts?

What else could be useful.

Thanks a lot and all the best

Norbert

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Maintainer is mailing list vs NMU

2005-09-25 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all!

While packaging texlive I use as Maintainer field a mailing list at
alioth, but in the ChangeLog there actually is my Name/email in the
relevant line. So I get source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number warnings
from lintian. Is this normal or is there a way to avoid this?

Best wishes

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Re: Maintainer is mailing list vs NMU

2005-09-25 Thread Norbert Preining
On Son, 25 Sep 2005, Decklin Foster wrote:
  While packaging texlive I use as Maintainer field a mailing list at
  alioth, but in the ChangeLog there actually is my Name/email in the
  relevant line. So I get source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number warnings
  from lintian. Is this normal or is there a way to avoid this?
 
 Add yourself to the Uploaders field.
 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-collaborative-maint

Can I do this when I am not a DD till now, ie don't have a @debian.org
email?

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packages size versus files under dpkg control

2005-09-15 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear DD!

I would like to have your comment on the following packaging decision:

In packaging the cm-super fonts, i.e. repackaging the pts-tetex-cm-super
package, we have two options:

1) Install all font files (*.pfb) as is

2) Install a compressed definition file and create the pfb files 
   at package installation time, then deleting the definition file.

Why would someone want the second approach: SIze reason! In the first
version the deb has 57M, while in the second approach we would have
about half the size.

Advantage of 1)
- all files are under dpkg control
- no file under dpkg control is deleted in the postinst script

Advantage of 2)
- smaller size, less load on mirrors and users 


Could one of you suggest what would be the optimal solution for this
case?

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: packages size versus files under dpkg control

2005-09-15 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Wolfgang!

On Don, 15 Sep 2005, W. Borgert wrote:
  1) Install all font files (*.pfb) as is
 
  2) Install a compressed definition file and create the pfb files 
 at package installation time, then deleting the definition file.
 
 Welcome back from holidays!  I will pester you with a lot of
 texlive questions/problems/... soon :-)

Oh, thanks. But I am just building a new version. BTW: Are you using
sarge or sid? THe problem now is that according to my mentor all the
packages have to be build on sid. But since there are only a view bin
packages I will make sarge and sid versions. Will see.

 Back to your question: I personally hate files that are not
 under dpkg control, because you cannot check using debsums,
 dpkg -L, dpkg -S, etc.

Grin, me too!

 AFAIK, there are plans to register and unregister files with the
 package management, but currently this is not possible.

Ok, but this for sure will take ages!

 Conclusion: Go for 2 and hope, that someone implements dpkg file

Ok, I count one for option 2. There are several others on debian-tetex
who also have suggested this.

 register/unregister some day.  But do *not* delete the
 definition files, so that one can re-create the font files
 easily without having to do the full re-installation cycly.  If
 I understand you correctly, the definition files are not that
 huge.

Well, half the size, around 30M. So in total 90M. But on a normal system
this should not be a problem, you're right. (And no, I wont add a
debconf question: Do you want to keep the blalba file?)


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Re: packages size versus files under dpkg control

2005-09-15 Thread Norbert Preining
On Don, 15 Sep 2005, Simon Richter wrote:
 2) Install a compressed definition file and create the pfb files 
at package installation time, then deleting the definition file.
 
 Hrm, doesn't that happen automatically on first use?

No, this is done for the pk/tfm/mf files, but up to now *not* for pfb.
And it will be quite some work to get it at this point.

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install-info problems with DOS encoded files

2005-08-24 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear friends!

I have the following problem: Upstream ships .info files in DOS
encoding. And install-info in my postinst (automatically generated by
dh_installinfo) script moans that
  No `START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY' and no `This file documents'.
  install-info(/usr/share/info/dvips.info): unable to determine description for 
`dir' entry - giving up

The problem is the /usr/sbin/install-info is perl and searches for
/^START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY$/
which does not match, and the document does not start with The file
documents ..., but This manual documents ...

Is this a bug in the install-info program, or should I convert all the
info files to unix lineendings?

Best wishes

Norbert

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RFC/RFS: TeXlive for Debian

2005-08-18 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear friends! Dear DDs! Dear TeX Gurus!

I would like to ask for comments on the packages of TeX live I have
created. The original ITP is #312897, see
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/06/msg00970.html

The TeX live for Debian packages consists out of 66 source packages and
78 binary packages. These packages are all build more or less
automatically from the TeX live perforce depot.

For more detailed information please see
http://www.tug.org/texlive/debian.html

In a nutshell, you need:
   deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ pool/
   deb-src http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ pool/
and if you want texinfo installed too, you also have to use my local
texinfo packages (which will get NMUed by someone else soon). They are
available at
   deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ texinfo/
   deb-src http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ texinfo/
After apt-get update you can install texlive-latexrecommended for a
start.

At
http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/log/
you can find several log file, namely:
collection-*.build.log
Output of the build process using tpm2deb.pl and
dpkg-buildpackage
texlive-*_version.lintian.log
the output of lintian texlive-*_version.changes
lintian.log
the compilation of lintian-log files ordered by
error/warning tags and pkgs.
texlive-*_version.linda.log
the output of linda -f lintian texlive-*_version.changes
linda.log
the compilation of linda-log files ordered by
error/warning tags and pkgs.

Please note that the packages are ATM being rsynced to www.tug.org. They
should be there within a few hours. All the packages have version
2005.08.18-1

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: sponsors.debian.net beta

2005-08-17 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mit, 17 Aug 2005, Neil McGovern wrote:
 http://sponsors.debian.net is now around 90% finished, so I'm looking
 for people to try and break it :)

Ok, I have put up a package (in fact a lot). Will see what's happening
;-)

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