Re: Which X pkgs to hold? THANKS

2002-12-20 Thread Tony Crawford
Rob Weir wrote (on 20 Dec 2002 at 18:55):

 Ideally, you would have either used the Debian packages, or
 installed into /usr/local/X/ or something and used equivs to satisfy
 apt.  The first option is definitely superior though, especially
 since X 4.1 *is in woody*.

Thanks to Doug MacFarlane, Osamu Aoki, J. W. Dixon and Rob Weir for 
great answers.

Just to clear up why I did what I did, which people understandably 
wondered about: I needed 4.2, not 4.1 (at least, so I was told by a 
guy with the same notebook). At the time I did it, 4.2 was not in 
testing (this was a while ago; I have been very busy since then).

Now I'll try using of the Debianized 4.2 packages people indicated, 
and I will read up on libc6 issues between woody and testing before 
I decide which way to go.

You're a high-performance list, guys!

T.

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Re: simple exim configuration

2002-12-19 Thread Tony Crawford
Paul Scott wrote (on 18 Dec 2002 at 23:57):

 fetchmail to get the mail, procmail to sort it, mozilla or mutt to
 display it, you're all set.
 
 That sounds great.   Thanks.
 
 Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt?

Because the mutt package expects the system to have some kind of 
MTA, I'd guess. An MTA is a normal part of a typical system.

Options for overriding such dependencies should be covered in the 
man page somewhere.

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Re: How do I tell apt that X is installed (from tar dist)

2002-12-19 Thread Tony Crawford
Doug MacFarlane wrote (on 19 Dec 2002 at 13:32):

 APT::Default-Release stable;
 
 and add lines to /etc/apt/sources.list that point to testing, as
 well as to stable, like this:
 
 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
 deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free
 contrib
 
 # entry for testing distribution for installing from testing
 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
 deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free
 contrib

Thanks, Doug! That answers an even better question than the ones I 
asked. It's been heck to get an X-server running on this notebook, 
but if I save my XF86Config-4 very very safely, I think your 
suggestion is the way to go.

Tony

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Which X pkgs to hold?

2002-12-18 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi Gang!

I have a woody notebook and put XFree86 4.2.0 on it from the 
tarballs (because of better hdw support than in X v3). Now I 
want to try out some window managers, but apt-get wants to 
install xfree86-common every time I ask it for an X app. 

The Question:

- What packages do I need to mark as hold (or better?) to save 

the XFree86 v4 installation from getting damageed? (I took most 
of the options offered in the X installation routine, except 
Japanese fonts etc.)

- Where would I have looked to find this out myself if I were a 
smarter user?

- What's the best way to mark those packages so that I can 
continue life with apt-get?

All kinds of anticipatory gratitude,

Tony

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Re: pppd + multilink + demand = ?

2002-05-23 Thread Tony Crawford

Marcus Jodorf wrote (on 21 May 2002 at 16:41):

  Option multilink ebenfalls wunderbar - bloß nicht im
  Zusammenhang mit demand!
 
  Ist das eine bekannte Einschränkung?

 Ja. Zumindest als ich noch damit rumgespielt habe, war das ein
 bekanntes Phänomen - aber das ist jetzt leider schon über ein
 Jahr her (DSL ;-).

 Du solltest einmal in de.comp.os.unix.linux.isdn nachfragen oder
 drübergoogeln, ob sich das inzwischen geändert hat, denn da
 sitzen die kompetentesten Leute zum Thema.

Danke. Habe ich schon versucht; werd's aber nochmal. Inzwischen
ist es leider nicht mehr so ganz dringend, da der ISDN-Anbieter
die Bereitstellung unseres 3. Anschlusses vermasselt hat (DSL
außer Reichweite ;-(.

T.

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pppd +multilink + demand = ?

2002-05-20 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi gang!

My pppd does the demand option fine. Now my ISP offers ML-PPP,
and I find pppd does the multilink option just great too--but not
in conjunction with the demand option!

Is this a known issue? Anybody have a workaround? Do I want to
start reading up on diald or something like that? (What I'd like
most is bandwidth-on-demand: linkwise demand dialing.)

The fine print: Potato à la Bunk; kernel 2.4.9, pppd 2.4.1; the
hardware under the PPP interface is an AVM B1 ISDN card.

Many TIA,

T.

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Re: [OT] Was kann man gegen Beleidigung per E-Mail tun?

2002-04-22 Thread Tony Crawford

Thomas Huemmler wrote (on 22 Apr 2002 at 8:27):

 * Tony Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [22.04.02 07:35]:
  ob man in der Lage
  ist, einen anderen zu beurteilen, ist bestenfalls ungewiß, aber
  eine Aussage über sich selbst macht man mit jedem Wort.

 Netter Spruch. Ist der von Dir?

Muß ich zugeben, ja - (c) 2002 Tony Crawford. Kannste gerne
benutzen; über ein Belegexemplar freue ich mich :-).

T.

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Re: Unglueckliche Uebersetzung ?

2002-04-13 Thread Tony Crawford

Marko Schulz wrote (on 13 Apr 2002 at 12:00):

 Ja, das sollte besser formuliert werden. Hier ein Vorschlag:

   Wenn Sie Ihren Rechner mit einer USB-Tastatur oder -Maus
   startet, dann sollten sie die Treiber hierfür fest in den
   Kernel eincompilieren (betrifft ggf. hid-, keybdev-
   (und/oder mousedev), input-, usbcore- und
   USB-Hostcontroller-Module). Ansonsten kann es zu Fehlern beim
   Systemstart kommen, da die Module noch nicht geladen werden
   können.

 Den Kram in den Klammern (in der Äußeren (aber auch in der
 Inneren)), kann man vielleicht besser weglassen. Das ist zu
 detailliert.

Nicht weglassen, sondern die Klammern und das und/oder
weglassen. Der Sinn davon ist bereits durch ggf. gegeben.

Vorschlag mit einigen kleinen Änderungen:


Wenn Sie Ihren Rechner mit einer USB-Tastatur oder -Maus
starten, dann sollten Sie die Treiber für diese Geräte nicht als
Module, sondern fest in den Kernel eincompilieren. Das betrifft
die
Kernel-Optionen [Liste der Optionen, wie sie in 'make config'
genannt werden!]. Sonst kann es zu Fehlern beim
Systemstart kommen, da diese Geräte bis zum Laden der Module
noch nicht verfügbar wären.


Tony


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Re: Installing Debian or Linux

2002-03-24 Thread Tony Crawford
Craig Sampson wrote (on 24 Mar 2002 at 16:22):

 Like all RPM (or rather non APT)
 distros its a nightmare to update and keep updated but you don't
 care about this when you are completely new and can't get
 anything running.

LOL!

T.

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Ext3fs (was Re: debian-user-german@lists.debian.org)

2002-03-22 Thread Tony Crawford

Karsten Rothemund wrote (on 22 Mar 2002 at 11:36):

 On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 09:07:23AM +0100, Alexander Schmehl
 wrote:  * Martin Herzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020321
 23:54]:Hat jemand ne Idee? (Mal abgesehen von Fenster auf
 und raus mit der   Kiste.)   Filesysteme auf ext3 umstellen,
 dann dauert ein reboot nicht so lange  ;)  Geht auch
 nachtraeglich, soweit ich weiss.
 
 Oder liege ich falsch? Dann bitte sofort schreien!

Todeinfach:

http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2002/04/073-ext3/ext3.html

T.

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Re: Upgrade to kernel 2.4.* on woody - easy?

2002-03-20 Thread Tony Crawford
Martin Edward John Waller wrote (on 20 Mar 2002 at 15:03):

 I want to upgarde to a 2.4.* kernel on my woody
 system.
 Is this is a startightforward re-compile with
 relevant kernel source or are there things I need
 to watch out for?

It was pretty painless for me. I started with the kernel-
image_2.4.17-bf... package, which is intended to run on most 
equipment, then I started with its config file when I needed a 
custom 2.4.x kernel.

T.
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Re: /etc/issue

2002-03-15 Thread Tony Crawford
Michael Kines wrote (on 15 Mar 2002 at 10:43):

 I accidentally erased my /etc/issue .
 Now, when I switch alt-ctrl f1, there is no
 indication of what tty I am on. Where can
 I get that back again? Thanks.

And read ISSUE ESCAPES in man getty(8).

T.

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RE: The future of Debian install??

2002-03-12 Thread Tony Crawford
Craig Sampson wrote (on 12 Mar 2002 at 19:57):

 I may have missed something (sure hope so), but what I'd find
 immensely useful is a way of being able to choose, at install (or
 other) time what packages I want then save this selection 'list'
 to a file so that when I next install Debian on another box I can
 just tell it to use the previously made selections.

Maybe you can adapt this:
===
From:   Eric Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Debian Reinstall
Date sent:  Wed, 23 May 2001 08:56:08 -0700
Copies to:  debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forwarded by:   debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date forwarded: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:07:00 +0200 (MET DST)
Organization:   MilagroSoft Inc.

Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
 
 On 09-May-2001 Ronan O'Sullivan wrote:
  Hi there,
 I am wondering is there anyway to save your current installed
 packages information and when you reinstall for apt or dselect to
 know what packages to install or remove to restore your system to
 the previous state?
 
 
 2 steps:
 
 a)
 # dpkg --get-selections|sed -e 's/deinstall$/purge/'|dpkg
 # --set-selections apt-get dselect-upgrade # this removes any lingering
 # packages in your list
 
 b)
 # dpkg --get-selections|sed -e 's/hold$/install/'  package_list
 # copy package_install /somewhere/safe
 
 Then, after the install:
 
 # dpkg --set-selections  package_list
 # apt-get dselect-upgrade
 
 The sed call is to ensure that even packages on hold get stored
 properly.

This is very clever and effective. I tried it today and it 
worked like a
charm to get a good package list for backup and of course purge
deinstalled packages as per a).

BTW, How can I find why a package is on hold?

Thanks again,
Eric
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Re: Truly stupid menu seting

2002-03-11 Thread Tony Crawford
Joe wrote (on 10 Mar 2002 at 19:59):

 Here's just one of the things that peeves me, using a typical
 kde-menu example, but gnome does the same thing: if I want to
 start kwrite I don't want to be staring at a menu item that says
 Advanced Editor  have to find out for myself that they mean
 kwrite  not emacs. Please, can't menu items just say what they
 are?

I'm hip. Let's file a bug.

T.

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Re: Change from SuSE to Debian

2002-03-11 Thread Tony Crawford
pete atkinson wrote (on 11 Mar 2002 at 19:36):

 Are there any hints/tips/watch-out-fors that you could offer,
 principally, I am a bit confused over the non-RPMness of packages and
 the lack of the config suites such as YAST/YAST2 that SusE employs. 

Hi Pete!

Make project lists. Pull out a couple sheets of scratch paper 
and start a page for Mail, one for httpd, one for 
Printing, one for Application X that's supposed to run on 
this box, etc. Then you can break down each page into a few 
interlocking programs or packages. Then stick to one page until 
you've got it licked--or until it degenerates into a minor to-do 
list. SuSE and YAST try to make a monolith out of something that 
is by nature modular.

Your phrase Non-RPM-ness of packages mystifies me. BTW up 
until today I was reading [suse-linux] (I'd started on account 
of a system I got stuck with), and it was very entertaining to 
see a few people there who know something of the world 
explaining to the others about really dependable dependencies, 
apt-get, and something like Debian's bug tracker. Welcome!

T.

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Re: exim, courier mit authmysql

2002-03-03 Thread Tony Crawford

Karel W. Dingeldey wrote (on 3 Mar 2002 at 17:26):

 Ich verwende Potato und würde meine exim/courier Kombination die
 Benutzer gerne über MySQL authentifizieren lassen. Kann mir
 jemand sagen welche DBs und Tabels ich dazu in MySQL erstellen
 muß und welche Einstellungen in der exim.conf und der

Schau dir erstmal das cookbook auf www.exim.org an.

T.

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Re: Root symlink to /boot/vmlinuz

2002-03-02 Thread Tony Crawford
Craig Dickson wrote (on 1 Mar 2002 at 20:29):

 of 2.4.18-ac2. This means I have to go change the /vmlinuz
 symlink every time I install a new kernel, and I'm wondering if I
 can safely just delete the link and never bother with it again.

Yes, you can. Just make sure lilo.conf or whatever boot loader 
you're using can find the kernel without it.

T.

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Re: When will woody be out?

2002-02-28 Thread Tony Crawford
louie miranda wrote (on 28 Feb 2002 at 22:27):

 Hi, when will Woody be out?

Use it now, while it's still in ...

Sorry. But seriously, it's running very well for lots of people 
already.

T.

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Re: LAN to Internet gateway problem

2002-02-25 Thread Tony Crawford
Stephan Hachinger wrote (on 25 Feb 2002 at 17:36):

 machine I want to configure as router is 192.168.90.95 (stephan).
 Stephan has a second network card inside (192.168.37.95) and
 connects to the internet over this card and dsl (pppoE). Now,
 this is what I've tried:
 
 -Modifying the route table on pentiumdioxid (see attached route
 output)-Installing dnrd, a dns forwarder, on stephan (dns
 resulution seems to work without problems now)-setting ip_forward
 to yes in /etc/network/options on stephan
 
 I've also attached hosts.allow and hosts.deny.

Been up for over four hours and no answers yet? Well then:

I don't see anything in the above about any NAT, which you need 
if those private-IP hosts are going to talk to the Internet. 

You didn't say what kernel version you're running, so read the 
documentation on either ipchains or iptables--or go straight to 
the IP-masquerading Howto. 

 The problem is, when I try to ping www.debian.org from
 pentiumdioxid, pentiumdioxid gets the ip adress of debian.org
 (198.186.203.20) but it doesn't get any packages back.

Well, you have a name server on your gateway machine, so that's 
where you're getting the IP address from. The internal computer 
apparently made no contact with the Internet at all.

 P.S.: Into which file can I put the routing table modifications
 so that the modified routing table is automatically loadad at
 startup?

If there's an /etc/init.d/ppp*, that might be an appropriate 
place. If not, there's always /etc/init.d/networking, or copy 
that to a new name, edit it a lot, and read man update-rc.d 
about the order of execution of the init scripts and see how to 
set your routes after the interfaces are up.

T.

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Re: Archiv für Potato und Kernel 2.4.x?

2002-02-22 Thread Tony Crawford

Jörn Franke wrote (on 22 Feb 2002 at 23:01):

 Hallo zusammen,

 weis jemand was mit o.g. Archiv von Adrian Bunk passiert ist
 (people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato)? Oder gibt es dafür einen
 Ersatz?

Ja, und google kennt's inzwischen.

# Adrian Bunk's packages for kernel 2.4 on potato
deb http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian potato main
deb-src http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian potato main


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Slow iptables impatient anacron

2002-02-20 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi Gang!

I have a script in /etc/cron.daily that runs 

iptables -L -v -x -Z|other|stuff|mail root -s netfilter report

The first command takes so long to put out its output that cron 
(actually anacron I guess) seems to time out and mails me the 
report:

/etc/cron.daily/stuff:
Null message body; hope that's ok
iptables: Resource temporarily unavailable

Running iptables -L by hand, I see that it's very slow. It takes 
a minute or two to read out the FORWARD chain in particular. 
Even without the -v argument!

The questions:

-- Is that normal behavior for iptables? Or is there something I 
can do to speed it up?

-- Is there an easy way to make cron (or anacron) wait five 
minutes for the output before giving up?

-- Is there anything to be gained by removing anacron and using 
only cron? The system runs 24/7.

This is a potato/bunk system, kernel 2.4.9, with the netfilter 
stuff compiled as modules. 

Anticipatory gratitudes,

Tony

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Re: adduser 77777 problem

2002-02-20 Thread Tony Crawford
louie miranda wrote (on 20 Feb 2002 at 4:56):

 try useradd

Did you?

T.

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Re: Slow iptables impatient cron (was Slow iptables impatient anacron)

2002-02-20 Thread Tony Crawford
Tony Crawford wrote (on 20 Feb 2002 at 9:13):

 The questions:

[...]

 -- Is there anything to be gained by removing anacron and using
 only cron? 

That one I have now answered myself: No, no help.

Meanwhile here's the pstree:

init-+-apcupsd---apcupsd
 |-atd
 |-cron---cron-+-sendmail
 | `-sh---run-parts---stuff---iptables
 |-exim
 .
 .
 .

Everybody's waiting around for iptables to exit.

T.

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Re: Slow iptables impatient anacron

2002-02-20 Thread Tony Crawford
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote (on 20 Feb 2002 at 9:57):

 On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 09:13:47AM +0100, Tony Crawford wrote: 
 Hi Gang!   [...]   Running iptables -L by hand, I see that
 it's very slow. It takes  a minute or two to read out the
 FORWARD chain in particular.  Even without the -v argument!  
 [...]
 
 What about trying with the -n option? DNS lookups *will* slow
 things down a bit.

Ach du--! slapping forehead

Never mind!

T.



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Re: Slow iptables impatient cron solved

2002-02-20 Thread Tony Crawford
I wrote (on 20 Feb 2002 at 13:08):

 Karl E. Jorgensen wrote (on 20 Feb 2002 at 9:57):
 
  On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 09:13:47AM +0100, Tony Crawford wrote: 
  Hi Gang!   [...]   Running iptables -L by hand, I see that
  it's very slow. It takes  a minute or two to read out the FORWARD
  chain in particular.  Even without the -v argument!   [...]
  
  What about trying with the -n option? DNS lookups *will* slow
  things down a bit.
 
 Ach du--! slapping forehead

On the other hand, I do like having the names rather than numbers 
in that output. And normally, lookups shouldn't take *that* long.

By experimenting, I found out that the long lookup occurred when my 
iptables rules used a netmask that does not correspond to a known 
subnet, namely 192.168.2.0/28 when the local network is 
192.168.2.0/24. iptables was apparently waiting for a resolver 
timeout before printing localnet/28.

So for now I'm replacing that with separate rules for each host in 
that block of 16. Apparently there's no problem putting names on 
single addresses, just on blocks of them. Not exactly the way it 
spozed to be, but quicker than setting up aliasing and splitting 
the network into real subnets.

Meanwhile, while we're on the subject, is there a way I can make 
cron (or run-parts or whoever) wait longer for the output before 
timing out? Or maybe detach the process? Or is that a bad idea?

T.

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Re: Slow iptables impatient cron solved

2002-02-20 Thread Tony Crawford
Alan James wrote (on 20 Feb 2002 at 15:53):

 On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:16:15PM +0100, Tony Crawford wrote: 
  By experimenting, I found out that the long lookup occurred
 when my  iptables rules used a netmask that does not correspond
 to a known  subnet, namely 192.168.2.0/28 when the local network
 is  192.168.2.0/24. iptables was apparently waiting for a
 resolver  timeout before printing localnet/28.

 you can use /etc/networks to fill in these names.

I already tried that, with no apparent success, but I'll try it
some more--that's the kind of nice painless solution I'd like
best. I sure don't want to install BIND here.

 see man networks for the syntax, its pretty much the same as
 the hosts file.

I get Undocumented for that. (This is a potato/2.4.9 à la Bunk-
-is that man page in Woody maybe?)

Thanks for the tips!

Tony

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Re: Config file gehört zu welchem Paket?

2002-02-20 Thread Tony Crawford
Andreas Schockenhoff wrote (on 20 Feb 2002 at 22:30):

 doch:
 dpkg -S /etc/inetd.conf 
 dpkg: /etc/inetd.conf not found.

pumpkin:/pub/software/Linux# dpkg -S inetd.conf
debmake: /usr/share/debmake/debian/inetd.conf.ex
netbase: /usr/share/man/man5/inetd.conf.5.gz

 und was ist an diesen Dateien anders als z.B.
 dpkg -S /etc/wgetrc   
 wget: /etc/wgetrc

Without looking, lemme guess: maybe they're tarred from one 
location and installed to another (after some install-time 
modification) by a post-install script?

T.
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Re: exim frozen msgs resenden

2002-02-18 Thread Tony Crawford
Ulrich Wiederhold wrote (on 18 Feb 2002 at 11:35):

 Hi,
 aufgrund eines Fehlers (siehe andere Mail) konnten einige Mails
 von mir nicht mehr versendet werde. Wie kann ich dies nun
 forcieren? Wenn ich exim -q verwende, bekomme ich in der Logdatei
 nur die Meldung: 2002-02-18 11:32:48 16cjWN-0002Qt-00 Message is
 frozen

Thaw messages with exim -Mt Msg-No.

T.

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Re: pppoe, pppd and dsl problem on Woody

2002-02-18 Thread Tony Crawford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on 18 Feb 2002 at 10:47):

 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet ppp
  provider dsl-provider
 
 
 Any ideas?

Yeah. Did this last week--sorry, the computer is in Berlin so at 
the moment I only have my memory to consult. But I believe the 
deal was, don't put ppp and provider in your 
/etc/interfaces. Just set up eth0 like a normal LAN interface. 
Then pppoe will automagically put another interface, ppp0, on 
top of it (on account of its command line argument) and that one 
will be ppp.

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Re: OT: Suggestion for next Debian release

2002-02-17 Thread Tony Crawford
Tom Cook wrote (on 18 Feb 2002 at 10:41):

 [You should be more optimistic.]  There is no interest here in
 ridiculing anyone, even less someone who formulates his
 criticisms and suggestions constructively.
 
 Here endeth the lesson. ;-)

How much is less than no interest?

SCNR

(BTW I'd guess that would was an attempt at a past tense of 
will in the obsolete sense of want to: ...someone who was 
trying to formulate...)

T.

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Re: ISDN diald: router setup tale of woe

2002-02-16 Thread Tony Crawford
Richard Gaywood wrote (on 16 Feb 2002 at 18:05):

 Hi. I'm having massive grief configuring a standalone ISDN router
 and I could desperately use some pointers.

Are you using pppd or ipppd? What version? Have you read in the 
man page about the demand and persist options?

T.

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Re: ISDN diald: router setup tale of woe

2002-02-16 Thread Tony Crawford
Richard Gaywood wrote (on 16 Feb 2002 at 18:37):

 On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 07:21:34PM +0100, Tony Crawford wrote:
  Richard Gaywood wrote (on 16 Feb 2002 at 18:05):
  
   Hi. I'm having massive grief configuring a standalone ISDN
   router and I could desperately use some pointers.
  
  Are you using pppd or ipppd? 
 
 ipppd. Is this a bad idea?

Not at all. But it makes a difference in the names of the options 
concerned ...
 
  What version? 
 
 Default potato -- i2.2 patchlevel 10anubis. Although man ipppd
 reports 2.2.9, oddly.

Not so odd, and fairly up to date. Individual package version 
numbers are independent from the distribution release number.

  Have you read in the man page about the demand and persist
  options?
 
 man ipppd reports persist as obsolete in ipppd; it'd get me into
 trouble with my ISP anyway, although I can see what you're saying.
 It doesn't mention a demand option at all.

Yes, sorry, demand is a pppd option. What you want for ipppd is 
dialmode=auto in /etc/isdn/device/ippp0. (Do you have lots of 
nice explanatory comments in that file?) That should make the ISDN 
line dial whenever packets are sent to the interface ippp0. In 
order for packets to get sent there, you usually want to set a 
default route--your handy-dandy config scripts may have done this 
for you; verify using route -n.

Also, the isdnutils package sets up scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ 
and ...ip-down.d. You can amend these scripts to activate firewall 
rules whenever you ISDN line is up, or to correct the routing. 
(There was a time when the default route had to be restored in ip-
down after every hangup.) These scripts are also full of helpful 
comments.

Tony

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Immortal process after loopback mount

2002-02-12 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi Gang!

A couple of weeks ago I mounted an iso9660 image as a loopback 
device. The CD image seemed to be in good order, but umount 
failed, and ever since then ps aux has shown:

root  6747  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW  Jan24   0:00 
[loop0]

and it doesn't respond to kill -9. Meanwhile rmmod loop 
returns:
loop: Device or resource busy

Any advice?

Tony

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Re: Immortal process after loopback mount

2002-02-12 Thread Tony Crawford
Tony Crawford wrote (on 12 Feb 2002 at 15:57):

 A couple of weeks ago I mounted an iso9660 image as a loopback
 device. The CD image seemed to be in good order, but umount
 failed, and ever since then ps aux has shown:

 root  6747  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW  Jan24   0:00
 [loop0]

 and it doesn't respond to kill -9. Meanwhile rmmod loop
 returns:
 loop: Device or resource busy

Dazu sollte ich bestimmt erwähnen: Kernel 2.4.9 à la Bunk on a
Potato system.

 Any advice?

 Tony


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Re: First boot hangs on PCMCIA services after install

2002-02-12 Thread Tony Crawford
Robert Kausch wrote (on 12 Feb 2002 at 13:44):

 Starting PCMCIA services: modules
 
 and the cursor sits behind modules, and nothing changes.  I've
 left it for up to 10 minutes, but to no avail.
 
 Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I remember that from hamm and potato installations on my 
Toshiba. I had to boot the installation disk, dig into 
/target/etc/... and disable the PCMCIA, then reboot to finish 
the installation and compile a custom kernel with the latest 
PCMCIA patches. Took about a day each time, esp. since I didn't 
take notes and keep archives.

After a HD upgrade, I installed Woody recently from the rescue 
floppy images + FTP, and the whole PCMCIA bit came up 
automagically. You might want to consider trying that.

Tony

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Re: Wanda swam across my desktop ??

2002-01-30 Thread Tony Crawford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on 30 Jan 2002 at 13:44):

 On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 11:01:27AM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: 
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:  
 ... gnome code bloat ...   Like the man said, you have the
 source, go and fix it.
 
 Or not use it :)

How about an option in the .deb installation script saying 
something like Would you like Gnome to provide a humorous 
surprise on your desktop now and then? [y]/n

(BTW I once found an Easter egg I wasn't looking for. It was in 
the back of my closet, and I found it in July--bweagh!)

T.

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Adrian Bunk's 2.4/spud packages anywhere?

2002-01-27 Thread Tony Crawford
Oh s**t! I just noticed that apt-get is pulling 404s on 
people.debian.org/~bunk/. I see Adrian has pulled out of Debian 
and his famous 2.4-kernel-on-potato packages are no longer 
available--or does someone know of a mirror? This hits me at a 
bad time, as I want to replicate my home LAN router installation 
for a friend on Tuesday...

T.

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Re: fetchmail exim on a ppp dialup

2001-12-16 Thread Tony Crawford
Paul E Condon wrote (on 15 Dec 2001 at 20:49):

 I have a newly installed Potato host. I have installed and configured 
 fetchmail
 and exim as best I understand.
 Email is not coming through to the mail file /var/mail/pecondon as I think it
 should. What can I do to debug?

exim -bt address

exim -d9 -bt address

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Re: exim on a dialup

2001-12-14 Thread Tony Crawford
Mario Vukelic wrote (on 13 Dec 2001 at 8:25):

 The ugly thing with the rewriting is that the above rule in the
 eximconfig-generated conf file rewrites always, regardless of
 destination, i.e., also for local mail that stays on your machine or
 network (Which means that replys to local mail want to go over the ISP
 account, which is often not what's wanted).

If your /etc/aliases contains the reverse table of your 
/etc/email-addresses, the local replies will stay local.

If that doesn't turn out to be true for you, hit me up for 
config details: it works for me.

T.



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Re: funny ps output

2001-10-28 Thread Tony Crawford
Stephen Gran wrote (on 26 Oct 2001 at 15:23):

 Thus spake Jonathan B. Leffert:
  I'm seeing the following errors when I invoke 'ps':
  
  {netlink_unicast} {netlink_unicast_R__ver_netlink_unicast}
  Warning: /boot/System.map-2.4.13 does not match kernel data.
  {netlink_unicast} {netlink_unicast_R__ver_netlink_unicast}
  Warning: /usr/src/linux/System.map does not match kernel 
data.
PID TTY  TIME CMD
 1421 pts/200:00:00 zsh
  1439 pts/200:00:00 ps
  
  I've done some research into this and the common answer is 
that my
  System.map is out of date.  It's not.  I've checked and 
rechecked it.  This
  has never happenened until I went from 2.4.10 to 2.4.11.  
Now, with every
  kernel version it happens.
  
  I'm running unstable on i386.

I get the same thing, running potato on i386 with 2.4.9, which I 
built and installed using make-kpkg! I've been living with the 
warning for a while, but of course I'd like to make it go away.

T.
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Re: a close call

2001-10-11 Thread Tony Crawford
will trillich wrote (on 11 Oct 2001 at 8:25):

   telinit 1
 
 took me to runlevel 1, and then ^D continued on to runlevel 2.
 Gladly, ndc/named/bind/dns/whateverthenomdejouris is working
 again...
 
 And i didn't have to mess with my uptime. Whew!
 
   8:24am  up 391 days,  9:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.03, 
0.07, 0.01

So your system was up all through that, eh ;-)? Well, you 
missed a prime opportunity to test whether your disk motors can 
still do the old zero-to-sixty. 

T.
(going down in a couple hours to change a NIC):
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Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!

2001-09-20 Thread Tony Crawford
oivvio polite wrote (on 19 Sep 2001 at 11:27):

 Well not exactly dominating. Maybe not secretly either. But it 
sounded
 good. This oneliner from the department of utterly useless info 
tells
 it all: 
 
 agrep ^User-Agent: ,^X-Mailer:  user|perl -ne 'chomp;/.+?: 
(.?.?.?[^\d,\(,\[,\/]{1,14}).*/; $o=$1; $o=~s/ //g;print 
$o\n;'|sort|uniq -dc|sort -rn 

Funny, I'm not in the list, but I can't see where that pipeline 
leaves out those of us with Debian in the first Received 
stamp.

T.
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eth0 is S-L-O-W--outgoing, that is

2001-09-18 Thread Tony Crawford
How do I start diagnosing this?

Incoming data from the LAN is as fast as it should be, but 
outgoing, whether Samba file transfer or POP3, looks like about 
1/3 of one Mbit/s.

In addition, there seem to be pauses of several seconds in larger 
transfers. Files or mail attachments that go over one MB often 
time out during these pauses.

Debian 2.2, kernel 2.4.9 (A. Bunk's packages), acting as POP3 
server, Samba print server, and NAT gateway. 

The card is a D-Link DFE-530TX; takes the via-rhine driver. the 
diagnostics program from Donald Becker's site shows it's linked 
to the switch at a steady 100BASE-Tx. 

Disk access, as far as hdparm -tT goes, seems normal for ATA-33. 
(This is an Asus SP97-V board w SiS chipset, P233MMX CPU.)

During a long, slow file transfer, top doesn't show any excessive 
CPU use--no process over 0.3%.

The iptables configuration is minimal: just the one NAT rule, and 
incoming filters when the PPP link is up.

Other configuration info available of course. I'm clueless what 
to do. Try other NICs on speculation? Downgrade the kernel 
version?

How can I figure out where the problem is?

TIA,

Tony
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OT(?) Where has www.scyld.com gone?

2001-09-15 Thread Tony Crawford
And/or where is Donald Becker's NIC driver work now?

Tony
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Re: APCUPSD doesn't shutdown machine

2001-09-14 Thread Tony Crawford
Dean A. Roman wrote (on 14 Sep 2001 at 0:34):

 Maybe somebody can send there working config files so that I 
can try
 them.  I'm running an APC Smart-UPS 700. 

I'm running the same one, and I tested the shutdown recently. (I 
had to rebuild the system after a disk controller failure.) I'll 
be glad to share my config--just say GO--but I have to say I'm 
not using the new script system from the current Debian package! 

T.
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Re: exim

2001-09-13 Thread Tony Crawford
Timeboy wrote (on 12 Sep 2001 at 14:10):

 Do i become stupid? Or isn't exim an MTA? Sorry that i don't 
understand
 this question. But isn't only a mail that thing, that exim can 
deliver?
 I only can answere: There is a mail to deliver.

Maybe you're looking for the -bm option. Look for it in the exim 
manual. (Read also about -t to go with that.) But your script 
might be safer, and will in any case be more portable, if you 
pipe the message to mail.

T.
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Re: Why doesn't 2.2r3 CD boot on Toshiba 4080 XCDT ...

2001-09-08 Thread Tony Crawford
Rino Mardo wrote (on 8 Sep 2001 at 7:59):

 curious indeed.  i remember having the same problem with hamm 
and a
 toshiba notebook of the satellite series, but much older than 
your
 notebook, and if i recall correctly there is a special boot 
diskette
 image that you have to download and use to boot instead of from 
the cd. 

You mean the tecra boot floppy? I remember that too. I had to 
use them to get hamm installed on a completely non-Toshiba system 
once. But that was because the normal boot floppy kernel hung, 
wasn't it? 

Anyway, the situation I have now looks odd to me. I tell the BIOS 
to boot CD, HDD in that order. If I put the 2.2r0 CD in the 
drive, it boots. If I put the 2.2r3 CD in the drive, it's ignored 
(or tried and found wanting I guess) and the system boots from 
the hard disk. And I have two other computers here that boot fine 
from the 2.2r3 CD.

Still curious,

Tony
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How to diagnose slow Samba server?

2001-09-08 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi Gang!

We have mostly Windows boxes here on the LAN--20 computers in 
all--but also two Linuces running Samba. The one I was thinking 
of using as a file server for a workgroup here, though, has 
proved to be strangely slower than the other when sending files 
to a Windows box. Both are Pentium 233s, but the other can serve 
10 MB in a couple of seconds, whereas this one takes a couple of 
*minutes*. In the other direction--copying a file to a Samba 
share on this server--the speed looks about 3.5 MB per second, 
which I wouldn't have thought to complain about.

I've checked the disk read time with hdparm -Tt, and I get 17 
MB/sec from cache, 7 MB/sec from disk. I'm not sure where to look 
next. I suspect the network software, but how can I tell? Any 
cracks out there who can give me a checklist?

Here's the system at a glance:

ASUS SP97-V board, that's a SiS 5598 chip (incl. 5513 IDE 
controller, does UDMA/33); P233MMX CPU, 96 MB RAM; eth0 is a D-
Link DFE-530TX 100Mbit card, takes the via-rhine driver 
(connected to an ATI 10/100 switch--the 100M LED is steady on 
the NIC and on the switchport). The OS is potato with kernel 
2.4.9 thanks to the packages on Adrian Bunk's page. Oh, Samba is 
version 2.0.7-3.

Tony

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Why doesn't 2.2r3 CD boot on Toshiba 4080 XCDT ...

2001-09-07 Thread Tony Crawford
... although the 2.2r*0* CD does?

At first I thought I had a coaster, but it boots fine on other 
machines. FWIW the Progeny 1.0 CD I got off a magazine cover 
won't boot on the Toshiba either.

Very curious (and holding on to those 2.2r0s),

Tony

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Re: HELO command in exim

2001-07-04 Thread Tony Crawford
Pedro Zorzenon Neto wrote (on 4 Jul 2001, at 9:45):

  How can I tell exim to send my full domain in the HELO
 instead of my hostname? 

From the exim info, under Main Configuration:

primary_hostname *option*
-

Option: primary_hostname
Type: string
Default: see below

This specifies the name of the current host. This is used in the 
HELO command for outgoing SMTP messages, and as the default for 
`qualify_domain'.  If it is not set, Exim calls `uname()' to 
find it. If this fails, Exim panics and dies.  If the name 
returned by `uname()' contains only one component, Exim passes 
it to `gethostbyname()' in order to obtain the fully qualified 
version.

T.

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Re: where to do iptables setup?

2001-07-03 Thread Tony Crawford
 [Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 10:08:37PM -0500] will :
 
  apt-get install ipmasq
  
  unless i've missed something?

Well, the ipmasq package is overkill unless you have servers 
behind your firewall. Or maybe ICQ, NetMeeting etc.

To Vineet: I load some basic rules, including a MASQ rule, the 
way you do, in /etc/init.d/my_ip_filters, then supplement them 
with interface-specific rules in /etc/ppp/ip-
up.d/00more_ip_filters (and clean up in /etc/ppp/ip-
down.d/ZZmore_ip_filters).

T.

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Re: ipppd problems

2001-07-03 Thread Tony Crawford
MaD dUCK wrote (on 25 Jun 2001, at 0:00):

 I am experiencing a problem, which may be IRQ-caused, but it's weird
 and I don't think that IRQs are the cause.

I don't think so either. You shouldn't get anywhere near that 
far with an IRQ problem.

 However, whenever I initiate a TCP connection, the ISDN link goes
 down. the logs report the following:
 Jun 25 00:51:42 embryo ipppd[3516]: IPCP terminated by peer
 Jun 25 00:51:43 embryo ipppd[3516]: LCP terminated by peer
 Jun 25 00:51:45 embryo ipppd[3516]: Connection terminated.

With a 2.4 kernel (er--how bad do you need iptables?), try the 
AVM CAPI driver with the plug-in for pppd instead of ipppd. Or 
if you really don't want to, try a different isdn4linux version--
I think the latest are on ftp.suse.com. My guess is, you're 
probably having a weird problem between kernel modules. 

I'm running an AVM A1 on 2.2.17 with ipppd and a B1 on 2.4.3 
with CAPI and pppd. I can't really help much with your 
combination.

 any help or pointers appreciated.

Well, there's the i4l newsgroup, de.alt.comm.isdn4linux, and an 
AVM-B1 mailing list which is on-topic only if you go the CAPI 
route.

T.

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Re: Setting the time with Samba

2001-05-29 Thread Tony Crawford
Andrew Pollock wrote (on 27 May 2001, at 17:17):

 Sorry if my problem was not clear...
 
 The Windoze box is reporting a totally different time to what's on the
 Linux box when I use the net time command.

(a) 'net time \\server' doesn't *set* the time. That's why Mike 
pointed out the /set /yes arguments.

(b) make sure both computers have meaningful timezone settings!

T.

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Re: HELP!!! Installing Debian

2001-05-21 Thread Tony Crawford
Jan Enning wrote (on 20 May 2001, at 21:17):

  I am new to Debian Linux. After downloading files from BASE-i386 and
  DISK-i386 directory, i've tried to install debian.  I typed INSTALL  and
  the install.bat file run. After loading some modules, I am stuck to the
  the following message:
  
  Kernel Panic : VFS : Unable to mount root on FS on 01:00
  
  What have I missed?  Please help!

Similar experience yesterday trying to repair the installation 
on my Toshiba. (I needed to neutralize /etc/init.d/pcmcia in 
order to boot after stupidly apt-get-upgrading to a wrong 
package.) Anyway, I recently upgraded my iso images from 2.2 r0 
to r3, and now the gear in the install directory on CD 1 only 
got me as far as the same message you noted. Fortunately I still 
had the 2.2 r0 CDs with me, and they worked!

Has something been broken? Is anyone interested in more detail?

T.

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Samba: Nameless printer in Net Hood

2001-05-16 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi Gang!

I'm stumped. Samba 2.0.8 on Debian 2.2 (kernel 2.2.17) shows an 
extra printer in the Network Neighborhood on the Windows 
clients, with an non-printing character as the name, which shows 
up as a single little rectangle character in Windows. I suspect 
it's a tab, because opening it in Windows gets me the prompt to 
install a printer driver for '\\RUTABAGA\   '.

I've searched /etc/printcap and /etc/samba/smb.conf (see below) 
for where this comes from ... Oh yeah, and this printer entry 
also appears in Swat with an asterisk, which allegedly means it 
is defined in printcap and so can't be deleted in Swat. I've 
tried cutting all blank lines out of printcap, to no avail. 

Spooler is LPRng 3.6.12, in case that makes any difference. Both 
of the real printers--one local, one remote--work fine via 
Samba.

Any clues? Any links to *searchable* Samba mailing list 
archives?

Tony

Printcap: 
=
HPLaserJet6L|raw|HPLJ6L
:lp=/dev/lp0
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp
:af=/var/log/print-acct
:lf=/var/log/print-errs
:fx=flp
kyocera|fs1000
:lp=
:rm=10.0.0.51
:rp=L1
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/kyocera
:mx#0
:sh
===
smb.conf:
===
[global]
workgroup = OURGANG
netbios name = RUTABAGA
server string = %h (Samba %v on Debian 2.2)
interfaces = eth0 127.0.0.1
bind interfaces only = Yes
encrypt passwords = Yes
passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
passwd chat = *Enter\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n
*Retype\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n .
debug level = 5
max log size = 1000
socket options = IPTOS_LOWDELAY TCP_NODELAY SO_SNDBUF=4096
SO_RCVBUF=4096
printer driver file = /usr/printers/printers.def
os level = 33
dns proxy = No
wins support = Yes
invalid users = root
hosts allow = 10.0.0.
load printers = yes

[homes]
comment = Home Directory
writeable = Yes
create mask = 0700
directory mask = 0700
browseable = No

[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /var/spool/print
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
print command = lpr -b -r -P%p %s

[PRINTER$]
path = /usr/printers
guest ok = Yes
browseable = No

[kyocera]
comment = Kyocera FS-1000
path = /tmp
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
printer = kyocera
printer driver = Kyocera FS-1000
printer driver location = \\%L\PRINTER$
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Spontaneous reboot! HW diagnostics?

2001-05-04 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi Gang!

After over 100 days of error-free service, my Debian 2.2/i486 
dial-up-router-cum-print-server did a spontaneous reboot 
yesterday. 

(Aftermath: the CMOS clock had jumped ahead an hour and a half, 
the nmbd log contained non-printing characters at that point, 
and 1 e-mail in the exim spool was corrupt.) Before this happens 
again, maybe somebody can recommend ways to test for decaying 
silicon? Preferably in-service; if that's not possible then at 
least without booting a different OS?

T.

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Re: Spontaneous reboot! HW diagnostics?

2001-05-04 Thread Tony Crawford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on 4 May 2001, at 10:02):

 memtest86 (available from
 http://reality.sgi.com/cbrady_denver/memtest86/) will give your memory
 at least a good workout.  

The Readme and freshmeat testimonials look great. Thanks! I'll 
be running that this weekend.

 It needs to be run directly from boot off of
 floppy in real mode of processor).

Also boots from LILO now apparently!

T.

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Re: 3c509 and 2.2r2 installation

2001-04-25 Thread Tony Crawford
Harry Newton wrote (on 24 Apr 2001, at 23:15):

 I'm having a little trouble doing an NFS install on a machine with a
 3com 3c509 card ( 3 ports ) for Debian 2.2r2.

Stupid 3c509s. I just got one working after lots of headaches. 
In the end, I enabled Plug-n-Pray in the 3com EEPROM setup (but 
not in the computer's BIOS), then nailed all the other cards to 
fixed IRQs in the BIOS PCI/PnP settings, leaving 9, 10, 12 and 
15 free. The 3c509 came up on IRQ 10 and that was the end of 
hours of struggle. Kernel 2.4.2.


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Re: ISDN packages broken?

2001-04-22 Thread Tony Crawford
Willi Dyck wrote (on 21 Apr 2001, at 19:45):

  when I do /etc/init.d/isdnutils restart (after configuring everything
  properly(?)) on my Debian 2.2r2 System with Kernel 2.4 packages (from
  the
  Bunk kernel 2.4 distro),  I get the following error messages:
  Restarting isdn services :/dev/isdnctrl: No such device
  Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support Check wether you
  configured at least the ippp0 device!
  Am I doing something wrong or is ISDN support in Debian 2.2r2 buggy?
 
 Have got the same issue.
 Not quite sure but I have heard that it is a bug with the 2.4.x kernels
 which is not fixed yet. Can someone give more precise information on
 this? TIA

Sorry if you're an old hand and I'm way off base with this  
question, but you're sure you checked the PPP option *in the 
ISDN section* of the kernel configuration? That's 
CONFIG_ISDN_PPP and friends in the .config file as opposed to 
CONFIG_PPP.

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Re: ISDN packages broken?

2001-04-22 Thread Tony Crawford
Willi Dyck wrote (on 22 Apr 2001, at 13:37):

  CONFIG_ISDN_PPP and friends in the .config file as opposed to=20
  CONFIG_PPP.
 
 Yes of course!

OK, sorry. 

Well, at the time I upgraded to kernel 2.4.2, I used the 
packages from Adrian Bunk's 2.4.x-on-potato page, which said the 
ISDNutils were not ready. So I kept the ones I had, and they 
worked OK--at least, ipppd did. Sorry, that computer's not here 
so I can't give you exact version info. But you can always check 
for fresh isdn software at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/isdn4linux/

What kind of ISDN card is it BTW?

T.

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Re: how to set correct time?

2001-04-21 Thread Tony Crawford
Ross Boylan wrote (on 20 Apr 2001, at 10:58):

 I installed ntpdate and can get the time when I query, but any time I
 try to set the time I get the error
 20 Apr 10:45:07 ntpdate[13883]: no server suitable for synchronization
 found
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions how to get this to work?  

It happened to me when I first set up ntpdate a couple weeks 
ago.

I *guessed* (caveat emptor) that the current system time was too 
far off for ntpdate to consider any of the received values 
plausible. So I used the ntpdate argument to just show results, 
not set the clock, then used date to set the clock more or less 
to the minute. After that, ntpdate worked (and is now adjusting 
time upon PPP dial-up but no more than once an hour).

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Re: [debian-users] 3Com 3c900 NIC troubles

2001-04-19 Thread Tony Crawford
Randall Hansen wrote (on 19 Apr 2001, at 8:30):

 Hello folks ~
 
 I'm trying to get my 3Com 3c900B-TPO working under Debian 2.2.18pre21.
 Here's what I've tried, and what I know, or think I know :P

The site to read about the 3com cards is Donald Becker's 
http://www.scyld.com/network/

I seem to recall when I was first getting to know Debian (2.0) 
and using 3c509 and 3c900 combo cards, the mailing lists were 
full of warnings about the 3c900B. Search some archives, there 
may yet be some answers for you out there.

Tony (still wrestling with an intermittently unrecognized 3c509)


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(Fwd) Re: APC ups problems - backupspro

2001-04-18 Thread Tony Crawford
Lindsay Allen wrote (on 18 Apr 2001, at 22:44):

   The daemon clearly talks to the UPS.  It knows the voltages and the times
   and the events.  When the power fails it stops people logging in.  But it
   does not shut down the server.

Any event scripts in your configuration directory that might be 
getting in the way?

Correct paths etc. in your apccontrol script?

T.

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Re: any women here?

2001-04-18 Thread Tony Crawford
Lurk lurk ... but I have to toss in this article about the 
male/female disproportion among the geekly that I stumbled 
across on slashdot by chance half a year ago. The author has now 
archived it herself apparently. I think the reflections on 
socialization and the larval stage of geek development are 
hard to beat.

http://infotrope.net/writing/content/chick2/chick2.html

T.
(but what do I know)
... lurk lurk

melissa ion kibbe wrote (on 18 Apr 2001, at 18:34):

 
  Well, they could start by explaining why so few women are interested in IT, 
  and if they see a
  way to overcome it.
 
  And if there is , and it's within our reach/abilities, well what are we 
  waiting for ?
 
 unfortunately, i think it comes back to the way we were raised as kids (in
 the u.s. anyway; i can't speak for other countries).  and the way we are
 raised stems from the stereotypes addressed in this thread.  little girls'
 toys aren't technical.  they're not programmable or build-at-home like
 toys that are marketed toward little boys.  where as most little boys grow
 up with leggos, race car tracks and remote-control cars (the lucky ones
 :), most girls get life-like baby dolls and other such doll-related
 things.  dolls are great, don't get me wrong.  i had my share when i was
 young.  but what i notice is that girls' toys are ready to play with right
 out of the package.  boys' usually involve some building or problem
 solving, such as model-building.  this lays the foundation for an adult
 life of questioning how things are put together and how they work.
 
 this is obvioulsy not true for everyone, especially those girls who built
 models of the Enterprise when they were kids :).  but i think it explains
 a bit why presence of females is a bit lacking in the technolgy field.
 
 
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Re: fetchmail segfaults

2001-04-04 Thread Tony Crawford
Henrique M Holschuh wrote (on 4 Apr 2001, at 9:48):

 Well, it is not a security update, and it has about 90%
 chance of causing headaches, since the new
 initscript/ppp-scripts scheme will force the user to do some
 manual configuration. 
 
 I don't think it should go in stable.

Considering I've already manually messed with my /etc/init.d and 
/etc/ppp/ip-up.d scripts enough, let me just ask for the 
specifics before upgrading: certain internal problems with 
segfaults due to certain mail content are fixed in the version 
now in woody?

Tony

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Re: Cable for home network?

2001-04-01 Thread Tony Crawford
Nate Amsden wrote (on 31 Mar 2001, at 21:28):

 signal. so if your going 100 feet or even 50 i would
 for sure use solid core. pvc should be fine for your

...

 cables or if you make your own be sure to crimp em
 right, a couple of my friends learned the wrong way
 and they made me a few cables but they didn't work
 worth shit if the length was more then 15feet. for me
 i always buy premade cables as i can't crimp worth shit
 either.

Solid core takes different RJ45 crimps from stranded, and you're 
likely to get the wrong ones because solid-wire cable almost 
never gets a plug crimped on it: it gets clipped into a patch 
panel or a wall jack. If you crimp a normal plug on solid cable, 
you will have a connection in the beginning, but it won't last. 
The best thing is to connect your solid-wire cable to a surface-
mount wall jack--and do screw that to the wall--then use pre-
crimped patch cables. That way your network can stand being 
plugged and unplugged a few hundred times.

If most of your computers are in one room, of course, you'd want 
to put the switch there and just run patch cables (up to 15') to 
the NICs.

T.

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Re: ?!: 2.4 kernels, modules_install

2001-03-26 Thread Tony Crawford
Adrian Bunk wrote (on 25 Mar 2001, at 23:12):

 You need new modutils.

D'oh! Thanks to all five who answered. As I said, I read the FM,
but I guess I must have read it too late at night. Yup, the info
was there all along. Sorry!

Tony
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?!: 2.4 kernels, modules_install

2001-03-25 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi gang!

It seems the behavior of make modules_install has changed 
radically with linux 2.4. Or is it just me?

Contrary to what I've become accustomed to, the 2.4.2 from 
kernel.org seems to have put all its modules into 
/lib/modules/2.4.2/kernel/..., in a directory tree that matches 
that of the source. And it doesn't find them on booting. I could 
understand this if make modules_install ended with an error, 
but it didn't. So I tried a .deb of 2.4.0-test11, and same 
thing.

Any ideas? May I add that I read the docs in the source package 
and browsed the kernel.org list archives, and haven't found 
anything about intended changes in this regard, so I guess 
something's broken on my system, which is potato. All the 2.2.17 
kernels I built on it worked fine, including some ISDN patches. 
I'd like to use the ISDN drivers that are in the 2.4s, though, 
since the back-ports to 2.2 are somewhat backlogged.

In anticipatory gratitude for all kinds of astute tips,

Tony

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Re: Lion Worm

2001-03-24 Thread Tony Crawford
Glenn Becker wrote (on 23 Mar 2001, at 22:14):

 
 OK, I've tried adding this line via dselect *and* direct editing of the
 source.list file ... and I get '404 file not found's for the security
 stuff. What could I be doing wrong?
...
  Not if you hsve put 
  
deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free
 ^
There's a space after .org/

Did you miss it by any chance?

T.
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Kernel 2.4.2: weird make modules_install?

2001-03-22 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi gang!

Maybe this is not strictly a Debian question, but it's on a 
Debian system, so:

Is there some reason I don't know about why kernel 2.4.2 doesn't 
make modules_install? The kernel makes and boots; the modules 
seem to be made too, in their little subdirectories under 
/usr/src/linux/drivers and what have you, but make 
modules_install does not behave as accustomed, although it 
completes without an error. I'm about to start fishing them out 
by hand and moving them to /lib/modules/2.4.2, where make 
modules_install has only created subdirectories called kernel 
and pcmcia, and a symlink to /usr/src/linux/ called build.

Tony

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Re: Crash-URL

2000-05-24 Thread Tony Crawford
No crash. Opera 3.62 for Win32 says, Could not open file. 

T.

Shao Zhang wrote (on 24 May 00, at 14:37):

try this: 
 hello, please click me!! 
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once saw a link on a page that caused windows to crash immediately  
when clicked on. It was stated on that very page that this would 
happen.  So then I tried it and it worked! Unfortunately I lost the 
URL. :*(  Anyone know of this? Perhaps it's something like NUL or 
so which  supposedly is a reserved name under windows?   TIA!  
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Potato install: pcmcia broken?

2000-04-07 Thread Tony Crawford
Boy, I sure do pick loser subject lines! (was: Order of installation -
 potato/pcmcia.) Second try:

Hi gang!

What am I doing wrong? I copied linux, install.bat, base2_2.tgz, 
driver2_2.tgz, loadlin.exe etc. etc. to a DOS partition on my Toshiba 
4080 XCDT, then booted from a DOS floppy and ran install.bat.

The installation looks great (congratulations, team!) up to reboot 
the system: the boot hangs in /etc/init.d/pcmcia, right after it 
echoes modules to the screen. The pcmcia modules all show 
unresolved symbols. Don't they fit the 2.2.14 kernel that comes with 
the installation? Is something broken, or is there an operator error 
here?

(I can Alt+Ctrl+F2 out of the dbootstrap routine and disable the 
init.d/pcmcia script before rebooting, but then what--go to dpkg and 
install kernel and pcmcia module sources and recompile before 
finishing the installation? That can't be the intended behavior.)

Tony

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Re: Potato install: pcmcia broken?

2000-04-07 Thread Tony Crawford
Germano Leichsenring wrote (on 7 Apr 00, at 16:52):

 Hi, did you try this?
 
 update-modules ; depmod -a ; /etc/init.d/pcmcia start

I did the depmod and start--didn't know about update-modules (why 
update them? they're brand new) but I'll try it, thanks!

Tony

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Order of installation - potato/pcmcia

2000-04-06 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi gang!

What am I doing wrong? I copied linux, install.bat, base2_2.tgz, 
driver2_2.tgz, loadlin.exe etc. etc. to a DOS partition on my Toshiba 
4080 XCDT, then booted from a DOS floppy and ran install.bat.

The installation looks great (congratulations, team!) up to reboot 
the system: the boot hangs in /etc/init.d/pcmcia, right after it 
echoes modules to the screen. The pcmcia modules all show 
unresolved symbols. Don't they fit the 2.2.14 kernel that comes with 
the installation? Is something broken, or is there an operator error 
here?

(I can Alt+Ctrl+F2 out of the dbootstrap routine and disable the 
init.d/pcmcia script before rebooting, but then what--go to dpkg and 
install kernel and pcmcia module sources and recompile before 
finishing the installation? That can't be the intended behavior.)

Tony

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Re: Wordperfect for Linux

2000-04-06 Thread Tony Crawford
Sandy Shapiro wrote (on 6 Apr 00, at 9:31):

 I have Debian 2.1 (Slink).
 
 I downloaded Wordperfect 8 for Linux (guilg00.gz).
 
 During the install I get numerous error messages. It seems to be looking
 for subdirectories that don't exist on my system, and the program won't
 run.
 
 Will Wordperfect only work on the Corel Linux, or is there a way to get it
 to work on Debian?

It will run (though I still haven't got anything to go through the 
Word import filter yet). I had it running on mostly-hamm-with-XFree86-
v3.3.5, kernel 2.0.34. You need to watch the error messages and feed 
it some old libraries from the oldlibs and maybe X11 sections of 
the Debian installation--search the archives of this list or just ask 
Corel if you can wait a few days for the answer.

T.


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Re: Corel WP: missing libXpm.so.4

2000-03-28 Thread Tony Crawford
Vitux wrote (on 28 Mar 00, at 18:20):

 ./xwp: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'
 Any ideas?

Yeah, been there. You just need to install the corresponding library 
from either the X or the oldlibs section, I forget which, of your 
Debian release. Try maybe dselect, [S]elect, slash to search, libXpm.


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Re: x windows only allows root??

2000-03-27 Thread Tony Crawford
john smith wrote (on 26 Mar 00, at 23:27):

 hello,
   I am no longer able to log in x-windows (via xdm) on non-root account.. x 
 windows only allows root to log on. when trying to log on using non-root 
 account the screen flickers for a moment then returns back to the xdm login 
 prompt. has this something to do with permissions or something?

I had this symptom recently. Somehow my /dev/null permissions had got 
changed so that xrdb couldn't read from it except as root. chmod 666 
/dev/null fixed it.

Tony

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Who knows German?

2000-03-22 Thread Tony Crawford
Please excuse me for abusing the list to try to recruit some 
volunteers ...

LinuxTag e.V is the non-profit association that organizes Europe's 
largest GNU/Linux and free software convention (this year: June 29 - 
July 2 in Stuttgart--see http://www.linuxtag.org/ ). The group could 
use a hand in translating web content, press materials and occasional 
correspondence from German into English. Anyone interested in 
contributing their skills? 

Tony

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Re: libXpm.so.4.11

2000-03-22 Thread Tony Crawford
Jose Alberto Lobo wrote (on 22 Mar 00, at 15:04):

 I straightaway copied  libXpm.so.4.11  to my  /usr/X11R6/lib directory, 
 and
 ran ldconfig. My citrix program now runs normally but, alas!, after I logout
 xdm does not let me back in anymore. I can only log in as root, or else, use
 the character console...

I had the same symptom after Corel WP 8 and then some old libs that 
it required. After a long search, the problem turned out to be the 
permissions of /dev/null: the read bits had been disabled and needed 
to be turned back on. 

T.

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xdm problem: xrdb hangs, except for root

2000-02-27 Thread Tony Crawford
(Trying again with xdm in the Subject. If this doesn't attract any
ideas, I guess I'll have to trash major parts of the installation and
try again or use something else.)

Hi gang! Can anybody help me with this conundrum?

I have a hamm installation with a 2.0... kernel on a Toshiba 4080 XCDT,
and I installed XFree86 version 3.3.5 to get the vid driver for it.

Symptom is, xdm pulls up a graphcial login prompt which works fine if
I log in as root. If I log in as a normal user, I get no window
manager, no xterm, no nuthin--just a mouse pointer that moves.

(BTW the last thing I was doing before I started spending all my time
on this problem was trying to install Corel WP8, which was demanding
certain old libraries or symlinks to such. Maybe that's what caused
the trouble? Anyway:)

With some help from the nice people on the debian-user-de list, I
ran ps aux on another virtual console, and figured out this much:
xrdb, called by a 'for' loop in the global Xsession script, runs
once for each file in /etc/X11/Xresources. There are three of
those: xbase-clients, xfree86-common und xterm.

After a normal user logs in, xrdb hangs each time (pulls 99%
CPU use, says xtop--what's it doing?). When I kill it, the Xsession
script resumes control and runs xrdb again.

After the third and last xrdb call is killed, an Xsession seems to
start --I see my xterm and xclock nice root background color, same
as a root login gets--but then after ~3/4 of a second the whole X server
crashes. Whereupon xdm restarts it and the Login prompt is back.

I read 'man xrdb', but found no clues. I've checked all the
permissions I can think of, and as far as I can see the users
should be able to read and run anything root can, as far as
X11 is concerned.

Grateful for any hints,

T.

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xrdb hangs--except for root

2000-02-25 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi gang! Can anybody help me with this conundrum?

I have a hamm installation on a Toshiba 4080 XCDT, and I installed
XFree86 3.3.5 to get the vid driver for it.

(BTW the last thing I was doing before I started spending all my time
on this problem was trying to install Corel WP8, which was demanding
certain old libs or symlinks to such. Maybe that's what cause the
trouble? Anyway:)

Symptom is, xdm pulls up a graphcial login prompt which works fine if
I log in as root. If I log in as a normal user, I get no window
manager, no xterm, no nuthin--just a mouse pointer that moves.

With some help from the nice people on the debian-user-de list, I've
figured out this much: xrdb is getting called by a 'for' loop in the
global Xsession script, once for each file in /etc/X11/Xresources.
There are three of those: xbase-clients, xfree86-common und xterm.
For a normal user, xrdb hangs each time (pulls full 99% CPU use in
xtop--what's it doing?). When I kill it (from a different virtual
console), the Xsession script resumes control and runs xrdb again.
After the third and last xrdb call is killed, an Xsession seems to
start --I see xterm and xclock and a nice root background color same
as root gets--but then after ~3/4 of a second the whole X server
crashes. Whereupon xdm restarts it and the Login prompt is back.

I read 'man xrdb', which says things about cpp, but no clues. I've
checked all the permissions I can think of, and as far as I can see
the users should be able to read and run anything root can in the
/etc/X11 tree.

Grateful for any hints,

T.

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Solved! (?) Re: lilo: 'Kernel /vmlinuz is too big'

1999-04-28 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi gang!

Got the 586 kernel running!

I don't know why. I did make bzlilo instead of make bzImage, and it 
failed with the same error message from lilo in the second-to-last 
message. But then I copied the bzImage from that compile by hand to 
/, ran lilo by hand, and bingo. Go figure.

So I'm no wiser, but quite thrilled with how many people pitched in 
to try and help me out. Thanks guys!

Tony


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lilo: 'Kernel /vmlinuz is too big'

1999-04-27 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi Gang!

I got this error after throwing out a 386/387 mainboard and putting 
in a Pentium 133/PCI, then recompiling the kernel with the new 
processor type and PCI bios support. Now Lilo doesn't want to install 
the new kernel, grr-grr!  The old one was already over 700 KB and the 
new one is 900, so what's the big deal? And: what's the remedy? I 
tried make bzImage, I tried all three HD geometries offered by the 
new BIOS, I tried linear (which I'd *had* to use on the 386) ... I 
can post lilo.conf on demand, but it's a dead simple 1-drive, 1-OS 
IDE system, boot is hda and root is hda2 ...

Grateful for any tips,

Tony


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Re: lilo: 'Kernel /vmlinuz is too big'

1999-04-27 Thread Tony Crawford
Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote (on 27 Apr 99, at 17:59):

 You should *definitely* exclude support for things you don't need. This
 makes your kernel much smaller. Very helpful also is to compile things

I have most everything in modules that goes in modules ...

 floppy
 disk, tape, cd-rom drivers, network drivers, etc. 

Tape not applicable, but the rest is all mod.

 You later load these
 modules after the kernel has mounted the root filesystem (this can even
 be done automagically by use of the kernel daemon or the respective
 kernel thread.)

Right. This was a running system until this morning, remember.

  tried make bzImage, 
 
 And why didn't it work? This *is* the solution to your problem...

It did work, in the sense that a kernel was compiled ... but it 
wasn't significantly smaller. Are there some arcana of bzImage-making 
that I missed in the kernel docs? (and yes, I did make mrproper 
first!)

  I tried all three HD geometries offered by the new BIOS, I tried 
  linear (which I'd *had* to use on the 386) ... I
 
 Those two points won't help you at all, they don't have anything to 
do
 with your problem.

Good to know. I'm not really looking forward to a fresh installation 
... but I can always boot from floppy and tar everything first if it 
comes to that.

Thanks for your tips, though!

Tony


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Re: lilo: 'Kernel /vmlinuz is too big'

1999-04-27 Thread Tony Crawford
Ian Peters wrote (on 27 Apr 99, at 15:45):

  wasn't significantly smaller. Are there some arcana of bzImage-making 
  that I missed in the kernel docs? (and yes, I did make mrproper 
  first!)
 
 Uhh ... it's not supposed to be.  It's not smaller, just contains
 logic to handle loading the bigger kernel.

Okay! How do I tell lilo about this?

T.


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Re: RedHat need not apply

1999-04-22 Thread Tony Crawford
Kenneth Scharf wrote (on 22 Apr 99, at 5:07):

 While it is good that Debian
 takes its time to 'get it right' having a commerical product based on
 Debian could put some pressure on the distro for 'more timely releases'
 or worse, a commerical release of an 'unstable' branch might occurr to
 'keep up with the Jones'.

Which would bring the Linux league one step closer to the corporate 
league. The next subsequent step being that the bugs left in the 
release would be denied (or renamed issues) in the marketing 
literature. 

Tony


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Re: talkd doesn't work

1999-04-21 Thread Tony Crawford
 MCV runnign in.talkd and in.ntalkd doesn't stop me getting no 
talk
 MCV daemon on pick.sel.cam.ac.uk errors. Where should the talk
 MCV daemons be started?

Mine comes up on mesg y. You could put that in your profile I 
guess.

Tony


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Re: POP3 Server in LAN?

1999-04-13 Thread Tony Crawford
Bob Nielsen wrote (on 12 Apr 99, at 11:37):

 drwxrwsr-x   2 root mail 1024 Jan 25 16:03 pop
 
 qpopper created this with the right permissions.  /etc/inetd.conf should
 specify that qpopper is run by root, so you shouldn't be getting the
 error: 
 
 pop-3   stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd 
 /usr/sbin/in.qpopper

Thanks for your interest, Bob!

Check-OK on the permissions. My inetd.conf line is also same as 
yours, but ... if I understand it correctly, the man page says once 
the POP3 connection is authenticated (which mine is--a wrong password 
gets me a whole different error), qpopper changes its ID from root to 
the incoming POP user. Anyway, a couple of people have answered now 
who seem to have the same setup and no problems, but I still get this 
stupid error. I guess this is the famous Linux being picky about who 
its friends are.

Tony


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POP3 Server in LAN?

1999-04-12 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi people!

I ran this question end of last week and got no bites; here again 
with slightly changed Subject line.

 Anyone got a tip for me? I'd like to use Debian as a POP server in 
 the LAN, but so far it doesn't want to play along. Here's the syslog:
 
 Apr 10 17:29:42 pumpkin tcplogd: pop-3 connection attempt from 
 miregal [192.168.0.1]
 Apr 10 17:29:42 pumpkin in.qpopper[17472]: connect from miregal
 Apr 10 17:29:43 pumpkin in.qpopper[17472]: Unable to open temporary 
 maildrop '/var/spool/pop/tony.pop': Permission denied (13)
 Apr 10 17:29:43 pumpkin in.qpopper[17472]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -ERR System
 error, can't open temporary file, do you own it?
 
 What should the permissions for /var/spool/pop be, or is there 
 something else I'm doing wrong?
 
 Tony


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POP spool: permission denied (13)

1999-04-11 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi people!

Anyone got a tip for me? I'd like to use Debian as a POP server in 
the LAN, but so far it doesn't want to play along. Here's the syslog:

Apr 10 17:29:42 pumpkin tcplogd: pop-3 connection attempt from 
miregal [192.168.0.1]
Apr 10 17:29:42 pumpkin in.qpopper[17472]: connect from miregal
Apr 10 17:29:43 pumpkin in.qpopper[17472]: Unable to open temporary 
maildrop '/var/spool/pop/tony.pop': Permission denied (13)
Apr 10 17:29:43 pumpkin in.qpopper[17472]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -ERR System
error, can't open temporary file, do you own it?

What should the permissions for /var/spool/pop be, or is there 
something else I'm doing wrong?

Tony


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help w pppd+isdnutils+diald?

1998-08-31 Thread Tony Crawford
Any German (or maybe even Dutch) users out there care to walk me  
through what must be a very typical setup here in Germany--async  
PPP over an ISDN dial-up?  I just can't find my case in any of  
the many German and Dutch examples on the Web--and the files are  
moved in Debian (or hamm?) anyway.

Gibt's nicht vielleicht einen deutschen Leser, der mir bei einer  
wohl recht typischen Konfiguration zur Seite stehen moechte? Ich  
moechte meine ganz normale ISDN-Verbindung zum ISP in Debian 2.0  
nachbauen. (HiSax ist installiert und findet die AVM-Karte  
einwandfrei--bloss die ganze Skripterei verwirrt mich.)

Just mail me--this won't interest very many on the list, I  
reckon.

Thanks,

Tony


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Re: Can apt-get do proxy-http req?

1998-08-19 Thread Tony Crawford
On 18 Aug 98 at 9:01, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

 Set http_proxy to point to your proxy server, ie
 
 export http_proxy=http://172.16.1.1:3128/;
 
 The sources.list man page explains this.

Thanks!  I'm trying this now.  (BTW the information on apt 
in the bottom half of the dselect access methods screen refers 
to the man page for source.list, apparently a typo!)

Tony


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Re: modprobe

1998-08-19 Thread Tony Crawford
On 18 Aug 98 at 23:10, count zero wrote:

  hi to all,
  when i boot up my linux debian 2.0 i find this message
 
  modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10

Me too!  Can you please forward any personal replies you get 
that don't go through the list?

Tony


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Can apt-get do proxy-http req?

1998-08-18 Thread Tony Crawford
Hi!

Newbie here struggling with updating. And I never did get dselect  
to work consistently during the bo installation. Anyway:

I manually collected the packages demanded by autoup.sh and ran  
it.  Now the readme says I need to update ALL installed packages.  
For that volume, it should be worth giving dselect a try.

Apt-get wants proper URLs, but I have a proxy server on a Windows  
machine on the LAN, and the Linux box at this stage of the game  
staunchly refuses to see anything on the Internet, by name or by  
IP number (I've compared the route table and the network script  
and the ifconfig eth0 with other people's posts--I've been  
lurking--but to no avail).  So: Is there a way I can get apt to  
do a proxy request to my local Windows proxy server, which has no  
trouble finding the Internet?

Another angle:  Using FTP access in dselect, can I tweak the  
paths in the get commands?  dselect does proxy-ftp connections,  
but seems not to find hamm packages on the German mirrors  
(symbolic links not in place?)--it lets me choose the paths  
(which contain /hamm/hamm/) when setting up ftp access, and  
gets the package lists all right, but then it uses other paths-- 
the default /debian/dists/stable/binary-i386/.../--when trying  
to get the pkgs themselves, and gets nothing.

Or will I have to identify and get all these update packages by  
hand, i.e. without the benefit of apt or dselect?  Or am I  
completely missing the easy way?

Sorry about the confused sentences ... Thanks for your attention!

Tony

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