Re: Server setup

[deloptes]

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

> So if you read back my message.
> I boot using a rescue system over the network.
> I do my partition.
> I make the filesystem.
> I mount.
> I use debootstrap.
> And after I need to configure boot, this is where it blocks.
> 
> Got it now ?


At least now I understood the problem.

After dbootstrap you should chroot and execute grub-install and update-grub
or vice versa. Of course it could be necessary to update some
configurations.

I attach here my installation notes I applied to USB-Stick. It should apply
to your use case as well (I hope)

Ah and if you find some pieces to improve, let me know.

regards



This is a step by step how to to install debian on a USB stick and make this 
stick bootable.
The stick in the example is found under /dev/sdb. Change to fit your setup.

1. Partition the disk. If you want you can use also crypto_LUKS and LVM

# fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 28.9 GiB, 31051513856 bytes, 60647488 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x93e4092b

Device Boot   Start  End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1  *   2048  1050623  1048576  512M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2   1050624 46679687 45629064 21.8G 83 Linux


   The example here will use plain ext4 on two partitions
/dev/sdb1   /boot
/dev/sdb2   /

1.a. USB Formatting with GPT

Model: Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 60647488s
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt
Disk Flags:

Number  Start  EndSize   File system Name  Flags
1  2048s  1001471s   999424sfat32   EFI   boot, esp
2  1001472s   2050047s   1048576s   ext4
3  2050048s   10438655s  8388608s   linux-swap(v1)
4  10438656s  60647454s  50208799s  ext4


Use following setup

/dev/sdb1 /mnt/target/boot/efi
/dev/sdb2 /mnt/target/boot/
/dev/sdb4 /mnt/target/

mount the partitions and chroot (see below)
then install grub (5.2) and do update-grub
this should be done from efi booted system


2. Format the partitions

# mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1
# mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb2

3. mount the partitions

# mkdir /mnt/target
# mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/target
# mkdir /mnt/target/boot
# mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/target/boot
# mount
/dev/sdb2 on /mnt/target type ext4 (rw,relatime)
/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/target/boot type ext4 (rw,relatime)

4. Debootstrap Buster to /mnt/target
https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap

The log can be monitored after starting debootstrap
tail -1000f  /mnt/target/debootstrap/debootstrap.log

# debootstrap buster /mnt/target/ http://deb.debian.org/debian/
I: Retrieving InRelease
I: Checking Release signature
I: Valid Release signature (key id 
6D33866EDD8FFA41C0143AEDDCC9EFBF77E11517)
I: Retrieving Packages
I: Validating Packages
I: Resolving dependencies of required packages...
I: Resolving dependencies of base packages...
I: Found additional required dependencies: adduser 
debian-archive-keyring fdisk gcc-8-base gpgv libacl1 libapt-pkg5.0 libattr1 
libaudit-common libaudit1 libblkid1 libbz2-1.0 libc6 libcap-ng0 libcom-err2 
libdb5.3 libdebconfclient0 libext2fs2 libfdisk1 libffi6 libgcc1 libgcrypt20 
libgmp10 libgnutls30 libgpg-error0 libhogweed4 libidn2-0 liblz4-1 liblzma5 
libmount1 libncursesw6 libnettle6 libp11-kit0 libpam0g libpcre3 libseccomp2 
libselinux1 libsemanage-common libsemanage1 libsepol1 libsmartcols1 libss2 
libstdc++6 libsystemd0 libtasn1-6 libtinfo6 libudev1 libunistring2 libuuid1 
libzstd1 zlib1g
I: Found additional base dependencies: dmsetup libapparmor1 
libapt-inst2.0 libargon2-1 libbsd0 libcap2 libcap2-bin libcryptsetup12 
libdevmapper1.02.1 libdns-export1104 libelf1 libestr0 libfastjson4 libidn11 
libip4tc0 libip6tc0 libiptc0 libisc-export1100 libjson-c3 libkmod2 
liblocale-gettext-perl liblognorm5 libmnl0 libncurses6 libnetfilter-conntrack3 
libnewt0.52 libnfnetlink0 libnftnl11 libpopt0 libprocps7 libslang2 libssl1.1 
libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-iconv-perl libtext-wrapi18n-perl libxtables12 
lsb-base xxd
I: Checking component main on http://deb.debian.org/debian...
I: Retrieving libacl1 2.2.53-4
I: Validating libacl1 2.2.53-4
I: Retrieving adduser 3.118
I: Validating adduser 3.118
I: Retrieving libapparmor1 2.13.2-10
I: Validating libapparmor1 2.13.2-10
I: Retrieving apt 1.8.2
I: Validating apt 1.8.2
I: Retrieving apt-utils 1.8.2
I: Validating apt-utils 1.8.2
[...]
I: Configuring 

Re: Server setup

[deloptes]

john doe wrote:

> Apparently you are not here to get some help.

No she is, but she doesn't know how ... 

Re: Touch screen monitor recommendations?

[deloptes]

Bob McGowan wrote:

> I have a use case which could use a touchscreen monitor with a standard
> desktop running Debian.
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations for units known to work with Debian?

I have a friend that has one notebook with touch screen and debian with KDE
and there are no issues.

I suggest to check the supported hardware list on the debian home page just
to be sure

Re: Debian mirror

[deloptes]

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

> I believe you are the person who suggested me to offer the community a
> Debian mirror.
> 
> Well, this is part of what I'd like to do.
> 
> Maybe you could help me out with one thing.
> I'd need a hand with some of the configuration, for example I already
> have in mind to set fail2ban but there's probably a bunch of other
> things to do.

I would start here: 
https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror

and also (if you can answer the questions) contact someone that actually
does maintain a mirror.

May be you want to mirror some less developed project that needs a mirror in
your location and it will benefit its community.

Re: cannot mount smartphone anymore

[deloptes]

Emanuel Berg wrote:

> "Device is not authorized for usage", that's probably the
> problem, right?

google says in context of Ubuntu - USBGuard 
the package is also in debian - could be you have it installed?

Re: cannot mount smartphone anymore

[deloptes]

Emanuel Berg wrote:

> I don't remember this was anything one had to do but no, how
> do you do that?

I don't use iphone/android, but last time I did (2-3 months ago), when I
plugged the cable it prompted on the phone and asked if I allow the access
for this device.
If it is not prompted look at the logs (dmesg -T) after plugging the cable
and best paste here.

Re: How to manage a firewall script with minor tweaks for different machines?

[deloptes]

Anssi Saari wrote:

> I also need some way of pushing these firewall scripts and other config
> stuff over to the machines too. It's not a huge network but manually
> logging into each machine, overwriting /etc/nftables.conf and restarting
> nftables.service is a pain. cdist looks interesting and simple, does
> anyone have experience with it?

I have been somewhere there 20y ago. There was one tool cfengine then came
many of the kind puppet, ansible etc.

regarding the FW I have also had a "simple" firewall script, but few years
ago I moved to shorewall

In any case ssh can populate your script and do restart easily. however
think about rollback scenarios ;-)

regards

Re: cannot mount smartphone anymore

[deloptes]

Emanuel Berg wrote:

> But suddenly it doesn't work, it says:
> 
> Device 0 (VID=04e8 and PID=6860) is a Samsung Galaxy models (MTP).
> libusb_get_active_config_descriptor(1) failed: No data available
> no active configuration, trying to set configuration
> libusb_get_active_config_descriptor(2) failed: No data available
> LIBMTP PANIC: Unable to initialize device
> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'MtpErrorCantOpenDevice'
> what():  Can't open device

On the phone did you allow the PC to access the phone?

Re: Creation vs Modification timestamps

[deloptes]

hobie of RMN wrote:

> Why that's happening is a separate issue and one that I do need to find
> the answer to, but my question today is this:  Is it possible to find the
> original creation date-and-time on these files, or is it simply "gone with
> the wind" at this point?

I would say it is the root of the problem - share how you copy the files
If you use cp it is clearly wrong unless you use some of the options to
preserve the original time stamp. How it was working "for years" - I do not
know.

I use tar


$ ls -al TODO
-rw-r--r-- 1 user user 12475 Nov 22  2020 TODO

$ cp TODO /tmp/
ls -al /tmp/TODO
-rw-r--r-- 1 user user 12475 Jun 12 10:49 /tmp/TODO


$ tar cf - TODO | (cd /tmp/; tar xvf -)
TODO

$ ls -al /tmp/TODO
-rw-r--r-- 1 user user 12475 Nov 22  2020 /tmp/TODO

but if you use cp -a it has same effect

$ cp -a TODO /tmp/
$ ls -al /tmp/TODO
-rw-r--r-- 1 user user 12475 Nov 22  2020 /tmp/TODO

Re: Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC?

[deloptes]

James H. H. Lampert wrote:

> Please excuse the off-topic post, but I'm hoping this has come up with
> others here:
> 
> I've been tasked with implementing DMARC on our domain. And I'm told
> that the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" headers for
> DMARC-enabled senders, and neither does it do anything else to handle
> DMARC-enabled senders.

Couple of years ago, when I was working with a Telco they implemented DMARC
and were thinking it will be soon very strict, but it turned out many
implemented different policies and as Dan Ritter said, it is one important
factor.
Back then (2016) I asked the Telco people (as part of the BA) how many
responses (mails with statistics) they would expect from the peers - they
said they would expect that the major players would do DMARC - respectively
we setup a DB based on this assumption ... well the moment we turned the
collection on - the DB exploded because it was tausends of domains already
implementing DMARK with SPF and sending back the statistics.

Re: A Grub Boot Question about initrd

[deloptes]

Martin McCormick wrote:

> As an aside, one ought to be able to do something like
> this.  It makes life a lot simpler.  Both systems are using the
> same kernel and versions of the same processor the only real
> differences are the UUID's.  The grub configurations of both are
> the same down to the serial console.

Uff, IMO too much writing for trivial problem. You are correct into some
extent. I did not understand exactly your use case (everything is the same
except the console)

I have cloned many installations. You are right if done with dd UUID is the
same - but this is perhaps not exactly what you want. I usually either boot
in rescue (initrd shell) or have a USB or Debian installation medium to
chroot and adjust some settings and finally execute install/update-grub.
Now with UEFI it is more likely you have a slightly different use case but
UUIDs are what they are.

If there is a utility to do it I am not aware of such, but at the end is it
really that much of work. I mean it boils down to the UEFI and/or boot
partition, cause the rest is usually set on an LVM which is autodetected.

Re: Best remote client+server setup for ~10 users?

[deloptes]

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

>> Heh, I've been running internet sites and services since the late 90s,
>> even ran a Debian mirror for a spell back in the Volatile days.
>> 
> Sorry, didn't want to be rude...
> Something we get ourselves into much more than we can handle.
> Just wanted you to know what you're getting into...

I agree with Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside here.
Your approach seems to be  at random - looking for an advice.

A professional approach would mean to gether all the requirements and work
them out.
You post only two sentences:
"I need a FOSS remote desktop solution for around 10 users, back to a
central server.  The client connections will be broadband over OpenVPN with
an avg latency of 45ms (WFH)."

and the reader must look into the crystal ball.

Even if you were running web sites since the late 90s, it doesn't mean you
are good to build this server and the way you approach it does not help at
all. It is like saying I've been repairing bicycles, now I can repair a
truck. Well good luck! But leave this aside.

One of the questions is why you need a remote desktop at all, if it is for
development.

You can try providing remote X session if the connection is fast enough - it
needs good testing though. The X server provides an option to configure the
login manager (kdm,gdm,tdm or so) to open session on a remote PC. I've
tested this and it works perfectly well with 1Gbps connection. With 100Mbps
it was not a problem in local network too, but some things are slow.
The problem was the sound.

VNC: I have had only troubles, but is usable for simple tings. Recently
using on RedHat TigerVNC, which seems to be good, but OOB RedHat provided
only metacity which is the old one (used in Gnome2)

As you see it all depends on exactly specifying parameters/requirements and
testing them and it is more work than two sentences.

My best experience was with diskless clients that boot over NFS share, but
the openVPN requires additional work in the initramfs and couple of tricks.
This is how most modems boot actually.
I use it for my RPi4 and couple of notebooks in the local environment.

hope it helps 

regards

Re: PGP: difference between Kleopatra and Kgpg, both from KDE

[deloptes]

Marco Möller wrote:

> So, unfortunately I am still in need to find more information about the
> two different (or in the end not different?) GUI tools concerning their
> PGP functionality.
> 

Focus on kgpg for now and start with PGP and OpenGPG (gnupg)
https://www.openpgp.org/

There are also many other sites that explain use of PGP.

Kleopatra can be seen as KDE specific tool for managing certificates and
keys (GPGsM) but in different context. My advise: Forget it for now!

> Many thanks for all the other explanations which you also gave in your
> answer, they have been helpful!
> Marco.

welcome

Re: PGP: difference between Kleopatra and Kgpg, both from KDE

[deloptes]

Marco Möller wrote:

> Could someone explain for a raw beginner concerning the usage of PGP the
> difference between Kleopatra and Kgpg, what the typical work case is for
> the one and the other, what important feature the one and the other is
> missing?
> 

 apt-cache show kleopatra

Description-en: Certificate Manager and Unified Crypto GUI
 Kleopatra is a certificate manager and a universal crypto GUI. It supports
 managing X.509 and OpenPGP certificates in the GpgSM keybox and retrieving
 certificates from LDAP servers.
Description-md5: e5d6fc989907b80b691c99f2d8834cf5
Homepage: https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/kleopatra/


 apt-cache show kgpg

Description-en: graphical front end for GNU Privacy Guard
 Kgpg manages cryptographic keys for the GNU Privacy Guard, and can encrypt,
 decrypt, sign, and verify files.  It features a simple editor for applying
 cryptography to short pieces of text, and can also quickly apply
cryptography
 to the contents of the clipboard.
 .
 This package is part of the KDE Utilities module.
Description-md5: c2c30394bb363998b52a8fcc2caeb33c
Homepage: http://www.kde.org/


> 
> Sorry for the related but low specific questions in the following. Being
> a raw beginner in the topic of PGP signing of email messages, it is
> difficult to even know what exactly to ask for. My internet search
> engine of choice and the KDE web sites both unfortunately did not guide
> me to a nice reading about the differences of Kleopatra and Kgpg, and
> adding Thunderbird to this does not make the topic easier to grasp.
> Therefore please allow me to add the following complex of questions:
> The background to my questions is, that I am aiming to soon use PGP
> signatures when working with Thunderbird, but I would not know if
> Kleopatra or if Kpgp would be better suited to support this. Besides, as
> a raw beginner in the topic of PGP, I am not even sure right now if I
> might find good usage of PGP for whatever else in the future (maybe
> authentication for a ssh access?), and if for this I should right away
> start to get comfortable with the one or the other tool, Kleopatra or
> Kpgp, or if anyway both will be needed because they target different
> work cases or complement each other?

I think the above parts of the package description explains quite well the
use cases.

With kleopatra you manage certificates in KDE (such like SSL)
With Kgpg you manage GPG keys and you can encrypt/decrypt GUI style text

> At the moment my impression is that Thunderbird even comes with its own
> PGP implementation and is not using any other PGP parts of the rest of
> my Debian? Will Kleopatra or Kpgp then be of any help for me at all
> right now?

Don't know thunderbird or it's ability to use GPG, but it makes sense that
it uses it's own implementation. The answer here is probably no.
However you could use Kgpg to create and manage your keys and keyring (I
would recommend it)

> I find package "gnupg" (maybe for the package manager apt to work
> fine?), but no package which in its package name would explicitly
> contain the word openpgp. Is there a special openpgp package which I
> should install in order to get well prepared for a typical PGP future?

gnupg is the mother of all open source pgp stuff. In fact you must know that
PGP is the commercial implementation of a standard for symetric encryption
(I hope I am not wrong in my wording while citing from memory)
Gnupg is the opensource equivalent of PGP and it is great :) command line
utility and set of libraries that makes it possible to use encryption on
numerous of devices. The application is called gpg.
Kgpg is a front end to gnupg. Go to the home page of gpg and read, get
familiar to it. It definitely needs understanding before using.

Re: which command can show if usb 3.0 is used

[deloptes]

Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> Is the connector blue?  It's a convention to make USB 3.0 connectors
> blue, while USB 2 connectors aren't.  My machine has a mix.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0

I would also start with this.

USB3 (not only 3.0 but 3.x) are blue.

Then you can use dd to determine speed (knowing USB2 is about 480Mbps which
is equivalent of approx 40MB/s - AFAIR 100Mbps~=12MB/s)

In reality it looks like this

dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/null bs=512 status=progress
851034624 bytes (851 MB, 812 MiB) copied, 24 s, 35.5 MB/s

SATA in active RAID for example

dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=512 status=progress
1397104128 bytes (1.4 GB, 1.3 GiB) copied, 5 s, 279 MB/s

USB3 on RPi4

dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=512 status=progress
3767485440 bytes (3.8 GB, 3.5 GiB) copied, 48 s, 78.5 MB/s

regards

re: cannot download debian buster becase error in running ubuntu

[deloptes]

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

> Why don't you give Ubuntu a call or check on their mailing list ?
> You problem seems much more related to Ubuntu than Debian.
> 
> The only thing I can tell you is look inside /var/lib/dpkg/info/
> and remove the file .postrm (or whatever you need). This way you will be
> able to remove the package or install it.
> 
> On 2021-05-29 9:18 a.m., Anton Wessel wrote:
>> apt-get upgrade debian-archive-keyring
>> exits with error because removing of

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside, you are still top posting. Would you please
stop doing this.

thank you in advance

Re: How to capture composite video

[deloptes]

Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> Note the "Audio: no sound" line.  I still have to figure that one out
> to get beyond silent movies.  Any hints?

mplayer is complex application - you need some time to study the
documentation

for audio you are missing the audio driver, you can try adding

-ao alsa:noblock:audiorate=48000:device=duplex

or for TV

mplayer tv:// -tv
driver=v4l2:input=1:norm=NTSC-M:width=720:height=480:forceaudio:immediatemode=0:adevice=/dev/dsp1:amode=1:forcechan=2:audiorate=44100:audioid=1:volume=75

it all depends how the hardware is set

these are some ideas I used successfully in the past

Re: About Terminal on Buster

[deloptes]

Charles Curley wrote:

> For the system console(s), there is gpm. If present, it is inactive when
> X is running.

I am not sure about it. Each time I switch to one of the consoles
(CTRL+ALT+Fn) the mouse works just fine although the X server is running on
F7 or F8

Re: Opensource photo user group

[deloptes]

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Maybe you have too much free time and should start doing useful stuff.
> 
> I didn't ask your opinion about what to do.

Yes you asked, but don't want to listen to opinions that do not fit yours.
Better listen when wise people speak. 

I answered in private, please stop this discussion here.

and please do not top post

Re:  Sponsored post on https://debian.org

[deloptes]

James H. H. Lampert wrote:

> At least the OP was polite enough to *ask* about posting ads, rather
> than just *doing* it.

Send him/her flowers :)

Re: Opensource photo user group

[deloptes]

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

>> I am not limiting to photograph using Debian but caring for people using
>> opensource software at large, with preferred operating system of Linux.
> 
> What is the state of photo editing software available on Linux?

Yeah it might be better Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside invests in mirroring or
build server, but ... last time I replayed to his/her post, I got a harsh
answer (although I admit, I was jokingly unpolite ... Gnome  :D :D :D )

>> All operating fee (we got a 32 GB/2TB server, domain
>> name, SSL if needed and more) will be covered by me for now.

I do not want to be unpolite, but 32GB/2TB is not very informative and does
nothing outrageous  ... it might be something for own web page ... but
nothing soo useful for the public - it is just my estimate and I am not
related to Debian or whatever organization. Correct me if I am wrong - but
I believe everybody has more at home, although it does not say how many
cores (CPU power).

Perhaps it is better to donate the money to Debian.org or his/her favorite
Gnome :)

Re: Weird WiFi problem

[deloptes]

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

> You are exactly pointing to a real solution here.
> It's jumping pretty fast to conclusion about Gnome itself being the
> cause of any type of network problem.

Sorry for the sarcasm and it might be inappropriate on the list, but I can
not hold it :D
Gnome is not causing any problems - it is the problem :D :D :D 

Honestly - from my experience things work today and don't work tomorrow. The
next day developers or whoever decides to introduce a new look and feel
etc. I stopped using it exactly 20y ago and I quit KDE in 2008 when they
did the same with the launch of the "great new" KDE4.

regards

Re: Continuous speech recognition for amd64 Debian

[deloptes]

Richard Owlett wrote:

> As a two finger typist I wish continuous speech recognition for note
> taking and composing emails. Unfortunately, the only end user speech
> recognition in Debian is Pocketsphinx which is command and control
> oriented.
> 
> When I asked on debian-accessibility, I was pointed to Mozilla
> Deepspeech. Reviewing material on the web it seems to be a good match
> for my use case. However, I found an article suggesting Mozilla was
> winding down its development. [
>
https://venturebeat.com/2021/04/12/mozilla-winds-down-deepspeech-development-announces-grant-program/
> ]
> 
> Except for work tightly bonded to Raspberry Pi hardware, I don't find
> any Debian references less that two/three years old. Is there any
> current activity relevant to amd64 Debian?

I am sceptical regarding open source. Some 10y ago there were very good
windows products based on ViaVoice that could adapt to your voice, diction
etc.

Deepspeech sounds promising - but it was not available 10y ago when I was
doing research at the university :)

regards

Re: help ask microsoft to make eloquance tts open source.

[deloptes]

Karen Lewellen wrote:

> Clearly sent privately by mistake.

you are stupid asshole - I explicitly said I post in private

Re: help ask microsoft to make eloquance tts open source.

[deloptes]

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Disregarding someone's request for privacy is rather disrespectful.
> 
> When that happens for me, I reply with something that says, ~"keep it on
> the list, please"

Thank you

Re: vim not seeing many Unicode chars

[deloptes]

Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE wrote:

> To noboy in particular:
> Yes, that is so and for whatever reasons there might be, it is extremely
> confusing causing frustration, despair and eventually anger.
> It is especially exasperating if one works with several DE which,
> contrary to the underlying distribution, also change their behaviour
> once in awhile.
> I used to have en_US language with German keyboard and SA-paraguaian
> monetary symbols. That is an edge-case which worked fine for many years
> but recently gives me trouble with KDE and also Perl.
> Cheers to everybody on the list

This is why I decided to stick to the continuation of KDE3 now called TDE -
using Cyrillic, German and English - no issues.
I refused to be victim of developers/designers dictatorship.
TDE might not be perfect, but the community wants to have stable desktop.

It could also work with newer KDE if it were possible to find one stable
version and stick to it. However your post and similar are not very
motivational to try newer KDE again soon.

Re: help ask microsoft to make eloquance tts open source.

[deloptes]

deloptes wrote:

> It resonates a lot - as I wrote thesis on dialogue systems and I got very
> disappointed by the facts I came across. IMO all technologies that were
> financed with public money (i.e. DARPA) should be made publicly available.
> In fact AFAIK there is only one engine (the mother of all) that was
> developed by Phillips and IBM - who knows who owns the pattents now ... I
> would be surprised if Google, Microsoft and Amazon funded research
> themselves.
> 
> In fact there was a Linux version of IBMs ViaVoice but was so bad and was
> killed later around 2005. We are in THE MIDDLE AGES right now. Only people
> got too stupid to understand.
> 
> I will no subscribed because it does not make any sense to request
> something from 2002 - you/we should request everything that was publicly
> funded to be available/benefitting the public or revolt.

I am sorry I was speaking about STT which is much more complicated. The TTS
(festival) has its roots also in publicly funded projects and programs and
had the same faith as the STTs. It is a shame what happened.

Re: help ask microsoft to make eloquance tts open source.

[deloptes]

Karen Lewellen wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Sharing because while tts is indeed  part of adaptive technology for many,
> and Linux default speech synthesis is not always of the best quality, the
> use of tts across devices serving the general public is  becoming more
> extensive as well.
> There is an effort at change.org asking Microsoft to makes its tts engine
> eloquence, open source.
> 
> https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-open-source-eti-eloquence
> 
> 
> If this resonates, please sign and circulate. its one of those  situations
> where adaptive technology and general technology can intersect in a
> positive way.

It resonates a lot - as I wrote thesis on dialogue systems and I got very
disappointed by the facts I came across. IMO all technologies that were
financed with public money (i.e. DARPA) should be made publicly available.
In fact AFAIK there is only one engine (the mother of all) that was
developed by Phillips and IBM - who knows who owns the pattents now ... I
would be surprised if Google, Microsoft and Amazon funded research
themselves.

In fact there was a Linux version of IBMs ViaVoice but was so bad and was
killed later around 2005. We are in THE MIDDLE AGES right now. Only people
got too stupid to understand.

I will no subscribed because it does not make any sense to request something
from 2002 - you/we should request everything that was publicly funded to be
available/benefitting the public or revolt.

Re: How to capture composite video

[deloptes]

Dan Ritter wrote:

> The subsystem you are looking for is V4L2, Video For Linux 2.
> 
> Showing up as /dev/video0 is an extremely positive sign.
> 
> https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/V4L_capturing is what you
> want to read.
> 

mencoder will give you different flavors and you could cook the soup that
tastes the best to you.
For example the Hauppauge card would provide a specific max quality of
output (the analog to digital converter). Thus here people suggest other
hardware. It could be the hauppauge is very low quality.

for example when analog TV was still popular I used with gl2 video out
driver following. Similar with mencoder except that it goes into a file

mplayer -tv
driver=v4l2:outfmt=yuy2:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0:input=0:forceaudio:immediatemode=0:adevice=/dev/dsp1:amode=1:forcechan=2:audiorate=44100:audioid=1:volume=75:norm=0:normid=0:chanlist=europe-west
 -vo
gl2 -ao alsa:noblock:audiorate=48000:device=duplex tv://

Re: KDE and Pulseaudio; swapping users

[deloptes]

James Allsopp wrote:

> Hi,
> Does anyone have a solution for the problem that when I switch users, to
> have any sound as the new user, I have to su to root to kill the other
> users Pulseaudio. If I don't do this I'm left with a dummy sound card.

>From what I read recently but couldn't test because of time constrains is
that ConsoleKit/PolicyKit should manage this

Re: Has anybody [had] good/bad experiences with the Bose QuietComfort 35 II and Debian ?

[deloptes]

Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> I am also aware that there are bug reports still open with Pulseaudio
> and profile mismatch with wireless headphones.
> 
> Before investing almost £200, I wonder if I can have any feedback on
> this model. I am using Debian Buster.

Did you try to do pairing and configuring without whatever desktop overhead
you might have - in bluetoothctl.

I spent a lot of time in recent years with bluetooth and HSP/HFP (most
likely you want HSP and not HFP) and yes there are issues with bluez5 and
pulseaudio.
Basically the issues are related to automatic handling of profiles - the
symptoms you describe fit this plague.
Perhaps it would be good to remove the ~/.pulse directory first and reboot
to make sure there is no old stuff inside. Remove also pairing on the
desktop. Pair again after reboot and make sure you have setup your desired
profile as default. (It is not clear which you prefer - A2DP or HFP.) Most
likely you want to have HSP, but you get A2DP as it is configured by
default.
I found out it is useful to set up the profile in pavucontrol, but Gnome
s**ks so if this does not help use bluetoothctl to configure the profile
for the device manually - you'll need to read some help or howto.

I had these exercises few years ago when I setup HSP/HFP with my mobile
phone, so that I can use the desktop/headphones to dial out and make phone
calls. So my experience is not the same as yours and I do not have the head
phones mentioned by you.

Also be careful with the links refering older distro versions (didier gaumet
mentioned) it could be they refer to Bluez4 which is completely different.
For example
http://www.bingshui.org/tech/bose-headphones-on-linux/
"First, create a new file: /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf with the following
contents" etc. does not apply to bluez5

good luck and best regards

Re: Old 32 bits application

[deloptes]

Nicolas FRANCOIS wrote:

> So I'm stuck. The 32 bits architecture is set (for Steam), so this
> could'nt be the problem? And it used to work on Debian 10...
> 
> If someone has an idea, I'm all ears :-)

AFAIK Debian 11 does not offer Qt4 which obviously is used by the app.

Perhaps consider using a jail or chroot or just a copy of the libraries are
needed.

Re: [Bullseye] package bloat for video playback

[deloptes]

Greg Wooledge wrote:

> See, this *right here* is why you do not put important details only
> in the Subject: header.

Yeah, sorry, I just now noticed [Bullseye]

Re: [Bullseye] package bloat for video playback

[deloptes]

Felix Miata wrote:

> Why do I want smplayer? VLC is routinely trouble, like failing to play
> audio or video or both together in sync, or failing to find and offer the
> starting point automatically.
> 
> ATM, VLC won't play audio, even though user is authorized in /etc/groups
> for audio, cdrom and video.

Felix, 

it is not clear which version of Debian you are using. Also there is
multimedia with far better quality.

I guess you needs specific fonts for being able to play videos with
subtitles and as developers do not know what everybody has installed they
build with specific font dependency that is free and can be used for that
purpose.

Another options is that you are doing clean install and now catching up with
your environment. 


PS
long time ago I gave up with Gnome and all the gnomes and later with KDE. I
stick to TDE and I use kplayer with mplayer
And I do not have either fonts-urw-base35 or imagemagick-common

I am not sure if this one liner is sufficient, but it shows that there are
no such dependencies in those

$ for p in $(apt-cache depends kplayer-trinity | awk '{print $2}'|
grep -v '<' | xargs); do echo $p; apt-cache depends $p; done | grep font
  Depends: libfontconfig1
  Depends: libfontconfig1
  Depends: fontconfig
fontconfig:i386
  Depends: libfontconfig1


$ for p in $(apt-cache depends mplayer | awk '{print $2}'| grep -v '<' |
xargs); do echo $p; apt-cache depends $p; done | grep font
  Depends: libfontconfig1
  Depends: libfontconfig1
libfontconfig1
libfontconfig1
  Depends: fontconfig-config
  Depends: libfontconfig1
  Suggests: fontconfig
fontconfig:i386
  Suggests: fonts-freefont-ttf

$ for p in $(apt-cache depends smplayer | awk '{print $2}'| grep -v '<' |
xargs); do echo $p; apt-cache depends $p; done | grep font
  Depends: fontconfig
fontconfig:i386
  Depends: libfontconfig1
  Depends: libfontconfig1

$ for p in $(apt-cache depends mpv | awk '{print $2}'| grep -v '<' | xargs);
do echo $p; apt-cache depends $p; done | grep font
  Depends: libfontconfig1
  Depends: libfontconfig1
  Depends: libfontconfig1

Re: AppleWEBkit

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> This G is for "grand", not "giga", right?
> 
> I knew Apples are expensive, but that would be... =:-o

25G in american english means 25000 and it is not only the machine itself
but the software included (for video processing)

Re: (OT) Jokes, lprng and old cars [was: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?]

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Difference is, the Benz 1930 guzzled gas like there was no tomorrow and
> was slow and uncomfortable.
> 
> Lprng uses up way less resources than CUPS, is easier to set up and
> understand, and Just Works.
> 

It is your opinion, I do not want to argue. For me it is as outdated as the
Benz 1930 and this was just example, so we also do not have to argue if the
comparison was good.

> I don't have a car, BTW. Never had. Prefer to invest in tasty food :)
> 

This means 1. you live in the city, 2. (probably) no children

I have family and 2 cars (1 for the city and 1 for long trips - more
comfort). 
There is no need to say what I think/feel about fake green ideology :)

I do not have lprng :) installed. I used it last time in 2002. 

>> So I just wanted to make a joke :)
> 
> That's OK, but then don't be surprised when jokes come back ;-)

As long as no one is upset - it is amusing.

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

[deloptes]

David Wright wrote:

>> 
>> And the year is 1998 :D
> 
> You can go back two more decades. I recall writing a stand-alone
> program to print a learned society's mailing labels on a Decwriter.
> For me it was an exercise, as I had only written OS360/370 assembler
> to extend FortranIV until then. For the subscription secretary, it
> enabled a faster turnround as we didn't have to persuade the operators
> to load sticky labels on their busy lineprinters. Less waste too:
> I still have clean fanfold labels that they jettisoned after lining
> up the lineprinters all those years ago.

around 1998 you could already print with other tools than lpr or lprng.
When I listen to you guys I have a respect, but you must understand that
time goes on - this is like advertising Mercedes Benz from 1930 and telling
me how cool this car was ... well might be, might be, but no one needs this
anymore - except the museum.

So I just wanted to make a joke :)

In fact if you want to read such posts more often you should subscribe to
RPi mailing list comp.sys.raspberry-pi. It's mostly like this - very little
epistemological benefit for the reader, but amusing.

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

>> However lpr ...
>> ... Neanderthals get extinct at some point of
>> time ;-)
> 
> ...perhaps /because/ they moved from lprng to CUPS ;-(=)

there was no compatible interface in production anymore :)

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Yeah. Today you would use a client-server architecture, the server
> being an npm application running in a Docker container. The client
> is based on libelectron (the printer selection dialog has to have
> a GUI, after all). Since the stack of dependencies is so, well,
> hellish, you better deploy your print-capable apps as Flatpaks [0],
> each one with its own copy of libelectron (and of Chrome, of course).
> 
> Makes you pine for the good ol' times where those things were made
> with Eclipse [1].
> 
> Nah. I'll take lprng, thankyouverymuch.

the dot matrix printer from Epson, I bought in 1996 for ~100 US$ still works
pretty well and the tape is very cheap.

However lpr ... come on - even RPi or a refurbished PC with a display is
more handy. You do not have to go into the other extreme with flatpack ...
but command line ... come on ... Neanderthals get extinct at some point of
time ;-)

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

[deloptes]

Russell L. Harris wrote:

> I use a dot-matrix printer with tractor feed to print self-adhesive
> address labels.  There is no formatting; just several lines of plain
> text, one address per file.  There is no driver; the printer is
> managed by CUPS to receive "raw" data.  I print labels using the "lpr"
> command.

And the year is 1998 :D

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

[deloptes]

Nate Bargmann wrote:

> I've successfully used the current version of Libre Office in Testing to
> print mailing addresses on a #6 3/4 (US) envelope and so wanted to do
> the same with a #10 (US) envelope, and have had nothing but frustration
> for almost the past two hours.
> 
> The Insert->Envelope dialog allows one to properly choose the #10
> envelope and the resulting document looks correct.  Then when opening
> the Print dialog the formatting becomes stuck on the C5 size.  Even
> resetting to #10 (or Com-10) results in the address blocks being placed
> too low on the envelope.  Tips from the 'Net have failed me.
> 
> I even tried a static linked version of Open Office 3.3 I have installed
> and it has the same bug!  Obviously, this is long-standing bug and
> probably won't be fixed any time soon, certainly not in the Bullseye
> time frame.
> 
> Are there other options?  Looking about I don't see any.  Even the
> online Google Docs does not appear to have any support for printing
> envelopes.  I understand most people do things online but there is still
> a reason to use snail mail and representing an organization, my
> handwriting is poor enough that it is better served via printing
> envelopes.

I use very often the Apaches OpenOffice 4.1.7 (version ATM) to print
envelopes. then as suggested I use the manual tray of the HP 420dn which I
have here to print it. It works OOB. Here is the process
1. select the page size Menu -> Format -> Page (Page Format -> Format #10)
2. Write the address
3. Set the manual tray (1) on the 420dn and insert the envelope
4. Print

What you describe looks like issue with margins and why are you trying
OpenOffice 3.3?! Even my version is already outdated

Re: PC fan getting very loud

[deloptes]

Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

Thank you Alexander V. Makartsev 

> You can monitor and log temperatures and other characteristics with
> 'psensor'.
> TCase of i5-4570T is only 66.35°C and that means CPU will have to keep
> the temperature at that point or lower.
> I'd expect an idle temperature of this CPU (without any load) with this
> cooling solution will be already around 40-45°C if not higher.

This is exactly what I've been thinking as well

> By simple launching of any application will make the CPU load to spike
> to 100% and heat to build up.

seems to be the case

> I'm not sure if disabling CPU vulnerabilities mitigations
> (meltdown\spectre) would improve the performance of the CPU, allowing it
> to go into idle state sooner and this way make it cooler without
> resorting to throttling.

I was also thinking of this, but I'll try to find a bios update first

> Opening the case won't help much and will probably be more harmful if
> the cooling solution was designed to make the air flow through the case
> and this way cooldown the other components of this unit.

thank you for confirming my thoughts

> I doubt you can do anything to improve cooling efficiency of this
> mini-PC, because its cooling solution is not standard and you can't just
> replace it with a more efficient one, like you can with standard PC.
> Basically, a small sized cooler fan means it will have higher RPM
> (3000+) and high RPM means it will produce a lot of loud noise.

We can try to find a low noise one if possible. If not the PC will be
replaced.

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

[deloptes]

Celejar wrote:

>
https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/mu2qcm/indefinitely_increasing_blocked_elements/
> 
> I'm not sure that I would interpret this sort of thing as the website
> putting up an aggressive fight or deliberately trying to burn out
> anyone's computer, but it is an annoyance that one sometimes encounters.
> 
> Celejar

Thank you. I've been looking at the machine yesterday from remote and I
could not understand why on specific site the CPU usage goes that much up.

It could be that Alexander V. Makartsev is right about TCase and I came to
the conclusion that we'll try to replace the fan with a better one if
possible to find or just replace the PC. Unfortunately I'll be not
physically around the PC before July.

I wonder if green activists keep an eye on these abuse of the web sites and
someone has already calculated hoe much power is get lost because of this.

Re: PC fan getting very loud

[deloptes]

Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

> On 09.05.2021 02:30, deloptes wrote:
>> Charles Curley wrote:
>>
>>>> Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the
>>>> fan gets extremly noisy.
>>> I have a similar problem with some of my older laptops. I have switched
>>> to Vivaldi (based on chromium), and that has reduced the problem
>>> considerably. Firefox is a resource hog.
>> Q520 is not a week/old machine it is i5 cpu
>>
> I think you have unrealistic expectations.
> This unit has 4th gen 2 core CPU rated at 35W TDP. [1] Which is not as
> efficient as modern CPUs and don't have the ability to step-down to
> low-frequency (under 1GHz) modes.
> Turbo Boost doesn't count in the TDP rating and it makes this mini-PC to
> generate even more heat.
> That amount of heat has to be dissipated with super small heatsink and
> cooling fan. [2]
> Keep in mind, that fan also has to cool down every other part of this
> mini-PC, like ICH, RAM, HDD and power circuit components.
> No wonder it struggles to keep up and produce so much noise.
> Put this mini-PC under any, not just Firefox, multi-threaded workload
> and you will have the same outcome.
> 

Thank you - I've been thinking of this, but somehow I am not convinced. See
the CPU frequency (800).
What would be a good test to find out if this theory is true? Should I test
by opening the case. If theory is true with proper cooling it wouldn't run
crazy. Correct?


> 
> [1]
>
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/75045/intel-core-i5-4570t-processor-4m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz.html
> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD9y0bkHKjQ
> 



C700

vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 42
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz
stepping: 7
microcode   : 0x2f
cpu MHz : 1720.697
cache size  : 6144 KB

Q520

vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 60
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4570T CPU @ 2.90GHz
stepping: 3
microcode   : 0x28
cpu MHz : 800.998
cache size  : 4096 KB

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

[deloptes]

Bret Busby wrote:

> I think this goes to an issue, over which, I tend to get into heated
> arguments, including with my wife, who is a software developer, who
> develops web sites that I believe to be responsible.
> 
> In the original post, from memory, was stated that it happened with some
> web sites, and, not with others, and, this involves an issue of system
> load, due to particular web sites.
> 

Yes but it does not seem to be relevant, because I installed  same firefox
on both PCs and open same number of windows with same content.
On the C700 no CPU load and on the Q520 the described behavior just few
seconds after opening the first link.
So it must be something with the Q520 specifically.
I now will install also the same kernel on both machines to see if it makes
a difference.

> I think this goes to the issue of client side processing, as opposed to
> server side processing ( I believe, and, argue, that all processing
> involved with web sites, should be server side, if the web sites are
> competently and benignly written, and that client side processing, is
> malignant), and I suggest that it could be worth viewing the source code
> of the web site(s) responsible for the problem.
> 
> I sometimes encounter web sites that are so badly and heavily client
> side weighted, that it can take five to ten minutes, to get a response
> from  a key press, in a form, and, other web sites whizz through stuff,
> on the same computer, in the same web browser.
> 
> So, I tend to have more than one web browser running at the same time,
> with firefox script enabled, and, the other(s) script disabled.. On my
> other system, I have firefox running, script enabled, and, Seamonkey
> running, script disabled.
> 
> Another issue, depending upon the nature of the web site(s) with which
> you have a problem, could be in the use of plugins in firefox - some
> particularly malicious web sites put up quite aggressive fights against
> ad blocking and tracking blocking plugins, and try to burn out computers
> of users who object to ads and being tracked and who object to websites
> trying to steal the users' identities and personal information.
> 

Yes, this is true - I have to inspect this. On the C700 there is ad-blocker.
on the Q520 I am not sure.

> So, if you can find a trusted web site, I suggest temporarily disabling
> all plugins, and, monitoring the effect, if any, on your system load - I
> would not do this, with the web site(s) responsible for this problem - I
> think the system load problem, could be your computer defending itself
> against an attack.
> 
> I also wonder whether you notice any unexpected massive data traffic.
> 

no

> I have, from time to time, noticed unexpected sustained downloads, using
> up tens of gigabytes of my quota.
> 
> Unfortunately, insofar as I am aware, Linux does not have any packages
> that indicate what websites are responsible for Internet traffic; if I
> notice sustained downloading of over half a megabyte per second, all
> that I can do, is turn off the networking, for a couple of hours, and,
> check to see whether it resumes the unsolicited traffic.

This implies installing a device between the modem and the PC, but at the
end I may also do this. It will just take time

thank you for your long post and opinion

Re: PC fan getting very loud

[deloptes]

Charles Curley wrote:

>> Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the
>> fan gets extremly noisy.
> 
> I have a similar problem with some of my older laptops. I have switched
> to Vivaldi (based on chromium), and that has reduced the problem
> considerably. Firefox is a resource hog.

Q520 is not a week/old machine it is i5 cpu

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

[deloptes]

Dan Ritter wrote:

> It is also the case that fans are cheap. Replacing one for
> $10-20 is generally good for another 5-10 years.
> 

But the question is why it runs > 100% - the fan is not that important in
the case. It could be replaced with not so loud one, but the CPU will still
run at 100+ % when firefox is running.

I changed the title to make it more explanatory

Re: PC fan getting very loud

[deloptes]

Joe wrote:

> Is the fan actually louder than it used to be on the same load? Many
> fans, and not just the cheap ones, are 'lubricated for life', where
> 'life' means 'until the lubricant dries up'.
> 
> It's a pain doing anything about this, as it is almost always necessary
> to remove the rotor to add more oil, and this are usually secured with a
> tiny plastic split washer which disappears very easily. For that
> matter, the metal circlips on the more expensive ones also disappear
> easily...

The problem is the fan turns on to high speed and becomes very loud because
the load on the CPU goes high. There is nothing wrong with this per se.
My problem is to understand why the h*ll on this machine it goes crazy. It
makes the machine unusable :/

Re: PC fan getting very loud

[deloptes]

piorunz wrote:

> Have you checked CPU usage of various processes? It's not uncommon to
> CPU be stuck at 100% due to various reasons, it's not limited to Firefox.

it is definitely the firefox on this PC

Re: PC fan getting very loud

[deloptes]

deloptes wrote:

> Another difference is that on the C700 I use firefox from mozilla.org
> while on the ESPRIMO Q520 I seem to have installed firefox-esr.
> 
> Also on the ESPRIMO Q520 skype uses 50% CPU and on the C700 5% :/
> 

Turned out when I was monitoring they were using skype so it can be ruled
out as source of the issue

> very odd - I wonder if it is really the Coller Fan or something else there

The fan was cleaned up - not sure about cooling paste. I'll try now with the
mozilla firefox 82.x that I have installed on the C700

Re: PC fan getting very loud

[deloptes]

Michael Grant wrote:

> I also recently had something like this happen.  I tried to redo the
> thermal paste between the CPU and cooler but it did not help.  I have
> a liquid cooler on my CPU.  Apparently these things get clogged up
> over time.  They need to be replaced (or taken apart carefully and
> cleaned) from time to time.
> 
> I replaced my cooler with a Thermaltake and I have to say my desktop
> went from sounding like a jet engine to near total silence.  I was
> actually so surprised at first I thought it wasn't working!
> 
> I don't know if this brand is particularrly quiet or if they're all
> quiet now days.  However, replacing the cooler definitely helped
> considerably.

Thanks for the advice

Another difference is that on the C700 I use firefox from mozilla.org while
on the ESPRIMO Q520 I seem to have installed firefox-esr.

Also on the ESPRIMO Q520 skype uses 50% CPU and on the C700 5% :/

very odd - I wonder if it is really the Coller Fan or something else there

PC fan getting very loud

[deloptes]

Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan
gets extremly noisy.
On a Fujitsu C700 with the same setup there is no such problem - although I
probably do not open these sites - but some other sites cause a lot of load
and still the fan is not getting so noisy.

Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 CPU

vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 60
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4570T CPU @ 2.90GHz
stepping: 3
microcode   : 0x28
cpu MHz : 1421.711
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 4
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
apicid  : 3
initial apicid  : 3
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx
pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl
xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl
vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic
movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm
cpuid_fault epb invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi
flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms
invpcid xsaveopt dtherm ida arat pln pts md_clear flush_l1d
bugs: cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf
mds swapgs itlb_multihit srbds
bogomips: 5786.69
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 39 bits physical, 48 bits virtual

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

[deloptes]

Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> I agree that it is not people-friendly to try preventing the use of a
> video after it was depublicated by state TV. The concept of Depublication
> is technically an unrealistic fiction and also a blow to the payers of
> state TV fees ("Rundfunkgebuehren").
> 
> Given the german judicial principles, the owner (ZDF, as of Michael
> Lange's report here) is obliged to use all reasonable means to enforce its
> legally obliged decision to depublicate the video. So i assume they use
> their copyright claim towards Youtube and others as tool to show this
> reasonable effort.
> 
> I see no indication that the content of the video was the reason for its
> depublication. Such content driven depublication happens from time to
> time, but not silently. Usually it rather enhances the public impact of
> the disliked message.

I understand the general part and partially agree - though it is disputable
if such lows ("Rundfunkgebuehren") are contemporary.
For this specific documentary I do not know, because there are many other
documentaries on YT that are still available.
It is very hard to not slip into conspiracy because even in the documentary
they say that the studies performed by the French Government, VW and Audi
showed that such vehicles become green after 20km and that the media
refused to publish the studies, because it is damageing the image of EVs.

Anyway - I was trying to not download any video I like, but just to bookmark
the link to the video. This story here emerged from the sneaking
dictatorship of big corporations and governments and went off line.

There is definitely less freedom than in 2007. There is more spying,
censorship and aggression from left and right.

As for the HTML5 it is obviously hard to make a parser (there are roughly 2
engines that can handle HTML5 well) so there is also less freedom here.

Hence my conclusion that we enter middle/dark ages of modern world

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

[deloptes]

Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> We had cases of self-censoring which led to depublication. I remember
> the song "Meine Oma ist 'ne alte Umweltsau" (= "My granny is an old
> environmental hog"), sung by a children choir and produced by TV station
> WDR in 2019. That video was retracted after conservative politicians
> complained about the insult towards their main voter group.
>
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/medien/wdr-umweltsau-kinderchor-satire-1.4738637
> 
> But i really do not see any such censoring with the video about
> environmental problems with electrical cars. It was aired and then
> available for two months. Business as good or bad as ever.

But it was on youtube and was removed and I could not find it

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

[deloptes]

Michael Lange wrote:

> now I got curious too.
> Oddly, it seems like the German public TV station ZDF blocked the video
> for Germany due to "intellectual property rights" which are not explained
> any further. Maybe the real copyright holders still hope to earn money by
> somehow selling their documentary to the audience.

You are saying you can not open the link (may be better to say watch the
video) in Germany?!
But this is not ZDF video - it is ARTE documentary. 
Please share information. I am sitting in Austria and I can watch and I am
downloading right now.

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

[deloptes]

Felmon Davis wrote:

> I got intrigued (and again apologies for my error!) and weird but I
> found it here: .
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's the right video but check.
> 
> also I wonder if the link will work for you.

Cool. This is great help - THANK YOU! Downloading now. And for the future, I
will be downloading all the videos. I have been downloading only from time
to time.

The question remains - was it removed on purpose and why the
Green-Lobby-Trolls have their videos online.

The link works, I am not in China :) thanks again

Re: HTML syntax.

[deloptes]

Weaver wrote:

> Maybe they just moved it?
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyumbvFdDNo
> Cheers!

No the original one was 1.5h - full documentary

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

[deloptes]

Felmon Davis wrote:

> you can view it on youtube (if that's compliant with your principles)
> at 

this is exactly the problem - the original video is not there, but the one
where someone comments on the video is there

Re: HTML syntax.

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 11:54:58PM +0200, deloptes wrote:
>> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> 
>> > xmllint has an --html option for that. That said...
>> 
>> you sure that it will give a warning if tag is not closed? Cause I do not
>> think so. In fact the --html option seems to correct those missing tags.
>> All together it's a good tool, but I do not know how it applies to html5
> 
> AFAIK it does HTML4.
> 
> HTML5 is a "living standard" [1], [2] which is an euphemism for "Apple,
> Google, Microsoft and, to a slowly dwindling extent Mozilla, will tell
> you what is supposed to work today".
> 
> The W3C consortium fought tooth and nail to fix a standard and lost.
> Whatwg (the above mentioned Big Guys) imposed
> 

so another one failure of opensource and free software

> Raph Levien called that, back then in 1998, "The decommoditization of
> protocols" [1]. A visionary.
> 
> Remember this old joke (around 1990)
> 
>   Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
>   A: None, they just define darkness as an industry standard.
> 
> Well, we arrived there.
> 

we are arriving in the middle ages - soon they start burning people alive or
send them to concentration camps for not believing in green energy,
Microsoft, Google or you name it. I just tried to find a video on ARTE that
I watched some time ago. Video was called "Umweltsünder E-Auto?"
They were forced to remove it :/ from their mediathek and from youtube

Re: HTML syntax.

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> xmllint has an --html option for that. That said...

you sure that it will give a warning if tag is not closed? Cause I do not
think so. In fact the --html option seems to correct those missing tags.
All together it's a good tool, but I do not know how it applies to html5

Re: HTML syntax.

[deloptes]

pe...@easthope.ca wrote:

> Hi again,
> 
> Is there an editor which checks that HTML opening and closing tags are
> paired and nested properly.  An opening tag without matching close, a
> closing tag without matching open and crossed tags should be flagged
> by line number or color.
> 
> Preferably an editor with minimal overhead of installation and
> configuration.
> 

HTML is not strict XML - so it depends on the definition of the page (my
knowledge is based on HTML2-4, but should apply to recent 5)
So it means that you can omit closing tag (check w3c.org)

Regarding checking XML - there is xmllint, but again it is not exactly
intended for HTML as it is not a strict language.

You are most likely looking for a HTML validator from which there are 100
online. 

Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> As others say in this thread, you have to use your brain a bit more
> to be happy with DDG.
> 

Don't try to insult. If you speak/use 1-2 languages it might be OK

> To me, honestly, this is a feature, not a bug.
> 

I don't care - it does not delivery good search results, does it?

>> I'm sorry guys, but DDG is another joke.
> 
> I don't know whether that wants to sound cool or what.

No, it wants to sound exactly as it was meant - a joke that you want to
convince me is useful. Well some kind of useful it is, but not much.

To sum up: neither Google nor DDG are satisfactory for different reasons.
Google for their policy of spying on you and DDG for the lack of better
algorithms.
Meanwhile I search in both :D
In the past 5-6 years things changed a lot. Censorship, algorithm
modifications, fake news flooding the web from left and right. I don't know
if it was D. Trump the reason for that, but the result is here to stay with
us. There is too much BS on the internet already. I've been thinking
starting over fresh might be the best choice.

Re: Google vs. DDG

[deloptes]

Stefan Monnier wrote:

> For these kinds of searches, I tend to go to Wikipedia first.
> One of the reasons is that I can do that via the Wikipedia app which is
> much more snappy than my browser on my smartphone.
> Another is that I have much more confidence in the Wikimedia foundation
> when it comes to treating me as a product.

What confidence? Anonymous people correcting each other posts. You can't
trust scientists anymore not to speak of Wikipedia

Re: [Off-topic] When in Rome...

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> FWIW, I did, once, for a couple of days. With a fully loaded bicycle,
> (after riding ~2000Km to get there, but that's another story).
> 
> I must admit that I was a bit scared. Turned out to be *extremely*
> relaxed, much more so than other cities I was used to. My guess is
> that the other drivers perceived us as a kind of strange-looking and
> *very* slow Vespa. More predictable, and thus easy to deal with :)
> 

Bicycle in Rome?! Not good for the lungs anyway. I've been driving a lot in
Italy. It is a good example for relative perseption of reality. To
understand what I mean go drive a car in Egypt. Compared Egypt to Rome is
like comparing Rome to Berlin or Hamburg.

> Back to topic (or well: pop the topic stack): to halfway function
> you'll need the assumption that not everyone is out to kill you.
> Everything else goes as pathological disorder, for a reason.
> 
> Of course, taking precautions that not everyone will manage not
> (unintentionally) killing you may prolong your life span.

This also shows how important the context of such ideas is. In some
countries you can not just walk wherever and whenever you want. So in such
a case you make precautions that will help you come home alive at the end.

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

[deloptes]

Joe wrote:

> There is nothing 'religious' about assuming that many private businesses
> will take every opportunity to make money from you in ways that you
> would not permit if you were given the choice. What is the purpose of
> 'free' social media, after all? What about the written guarantee cards
> provided with products since the early twentieth century, to be
> returned to obtain some small additional benefit? What were they if not
> the gathering of low-level purchasing information to assist future
> marketing? We *know* that's the kind of thing businesses do. We should
> expect them to use all possibly technological assistance to do it more
> and better. And we can certainly expect our rulers to spy on us
> whenever possible.

Assumption is not evidence, but if you are intelligent enough, you would
take precautions to make this assumption obsolete. It means you still do
not know if this is true or not, but you take measures in case it is true.

For me personally I know for sure that I will never get a TV or one of the
normal smart phones. Even with linux and whatever kind of precautions you
never trust that.

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

[deloptes]

Joe wrote:

> I know someone who started to be shown online adverts that could only
> have been based on a sound-wave conversation within the hearing of his
> smartphone. I don't know about other similar claims, but I trust his.
> 
> Are you saying that you don't believe anyone could be that naughty? Go
> look up 'superfish' and 'lenovo' if you're not aware of the incident,
> and that was years ago. I don't believe that advertisers consider any
> kind of non-lethal behaviour to be unethical.

People can state anything, but it is not necessary true.

However if you have enabled some kind of assistant like Alexa, Siri or
whatever they are called, it could be that they are indeed spying on you.
Again to make such a statement means you need to provide evidence.

Some state their brainwaves are being influenced by whatever (video, tv,
wireless) It could be true, but there is no evidence and the probability of
this being true is very low.

I am writing this and asking you to start checking facts and stop believing.
This is not religion.

Re: Free vs proprietary [was: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?]

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

>> No insult tomas - it's reality. One small tree can not stand the
>> avalanche.
> 
> It is -- you said "nobody is doing anything". But there are folks
> doing something. Declaring them non-existent is perhaps the worst
> insult possible.
> 
> Whether they succeed (or rather: how much and what they accomplish)
> is, of course, up to debate.
> 

OK, so you want me to say it in a different way. Despite there were some
efforts to do something, the result is zero. I hope you feel better now.

In fact I wanted to say that we should try to do something - especially
people with influence and power ... it's complicated topic, which I do not
want to discuss here and in public. With the "political correctness"
dictatorship now everywhere ... I hope you understand.
The fact is there was some effort around 2005, but it died before it was
born or if you like it was born dead. Very sad!

>> > 2. it is defaetist "the others have won, anyway, just accept it
>> > and give up". No. Truss up your sleeves ;-)
>> > 
>> 
>> No give up - we have to bring it to the next level - if it is not handled
>> at political level, you can indeed drink a glass of water and go play
>> with linux in your basement soon.
> 
> Of course it is political. That's why there are political organisations
> doing good ol' lobby work. Since you talk Europe, have a look at FSFE's
> campaign "Public Money, Public Code" [1], which is directed at EU
> politicians to convince them that whenever public money is spent on
> making code, this code should have a free license.
> 

20y - nothing! IMO this is more important than climate change, but may be it
is hard to convince the audience. I personally gave up around 2007

> As those things go, "we haven't won" (you never do, in politics), but
> there is some amount of success.
> 
> And there is a bunch of EU parliament MEPs who do understand those
> things pretty well (look up, for example Julia Reda [2] who isn't
> MEP anymore, but did an outstanding job there).
> 

Again - result is zero! Respect to the people, who try to do something
useful there, but it is the same as we talking here.

>> Also there is nothing going on in Europe anymore (at least not
>> significant except SuSE). There is a lot to discuss about and someone
>> must stand for this what happened in the past 15y - especially after
>> 2008.
> 
> Those things have become international anyway. SuSE is as much European
> as Debian is Oceanic. This [3] isn't perhaps the newest data, but has
> a nice pic. Looking at this pic, EU doesn't look underrepresented. Rather
> Asia, Africa and big parts of South America, esp. Brazil (although
> they have Mageia :-)
> 

You shift the perspective. I put the focus on what started developing open
source. I have not heard about Africa or whoever from the "under
represented" dealing with computers and free and open source software, when
it was being fought a fight here. In fact many do not even care how and why
they are able to use internet, smart phone and whatever they do. FSF and
Linux did impact the history of computing. I hope you understand what I
mean.

>> > 3. it's not fun. And that is perhaps the biggest crime on the
>> > spirit of computing. Alan Perlis [2] must know!
>> > 
>> 
>> What do you mean?
> 
> Did you read his quote? Fun in computing is the most important (I'd
> tend to agree with him). Doing free software is bound to be more
> fun for many reasons (the margin of this mail is too narrow to
> write them all down). Ergo...
> 

Ergo ... when the freedom is taken from you, you will do the computing with
the stick in the sand.

>> > 4. it could be a poisonous meme planted by "our opponents".
>> > Where did you pick that up?
>> 
>> What do you mean?
> 
> Demoralisation [4]. A classical trick of the trade. Now I'm not
> insinuating that our opponents are Nazis (the first example in the
> ref is pretty unfortunate, alas) -- but that kind of trick is of
> course played in any commercial endeavour. There are companies
> you pay money to do that. Business as usual.
> 

The freedom is being taken away - step by step, hour after hour, while we
chat here about the new face of crap MS Office and Corporates imposes on
us.

> Cheers
> 
> [1] https://publiccode.eu/
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Reda
> [3] https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.debian-internals.html
> [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoralization_%28warfare%29
> 

Re: Bluetooth connection problem

[deloptes]

Thomas George wrote:

> Failure to pair and connect android cellphone and Debian pc. The
> cellphone scans and finds the pc but cannot maintain the connection.
> 
> bt-device -l responds added devices moto g(7) play (04:D3:95:43:1D:43)
> 
> hciconfig -a responds hci0: Type: Primary Bus: USB BD Address
> F8:AC:65:85:BF:91 and further details including UP RUNNING PSCAN, Slave
> Accept and Device Class: Computer, Desktop workstation.
> 
> How can I establish a firm connection and stream music between the two
> devices?

bluetoothctl to pair
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
pavucontrol to setup the preferred profile (I don't know what is the KDE
equivalent)

if issues remove ~/.config/pulse/ and reboot or login/logout, pair and setup
again as described above

you do not need hciconfig -a

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> 1. it is an insult towards those actually doing something Like
> (random example) this electronic music composer [1] and professor
> (chosen at random among my acquaintances) who makes a point
> of using free software and introduces his audience, music
> students to it
> 

No insult tomas - it's reality. One small tree can not stand the avalanche. 

> 2. it is defaetist "the others have won, anyway, just accept it
> and give up". No. Truss up your sleeves ;-)
> 

No give up - we have to bring it to the next level - if it is not handled at
political level, you can indeed drink a glass of water and go play with
linux in your basement soon.
Also there is nothing going on in Europe anymore (at least not significant
except SuSE). There is a lot to discuss about and someone must stand for
this what happened in the past 15y - especially after 2008.

> 3. it's not fun. And that is perhaps the biggest crime on the
> spirit of computing. Alan Perlis [2] must know!
> 

What do you mean?

> 4. it could be a poisonous meme planted by "our opponents".
> Where did you pick that up?

What do you mean?

Re: problem with debian

[deloptes]

Robbi Nespu wrote:

> You should read what thread starter (TS) mentioned and try to understand
> what it about before response.
> 
> TS also should paste or attach the file...so reader will have better
> understanding on what is about

@Robbi,
when you know the answer it is easy to judge. I am not suppose to know how
debian mirrors resolve and OP did not put enough information.

I completely agree with you, but I do not understand what I was suppose to
understand from the OPs initial post.

regards

Re: problem with debian

[deloptes]

Andrei Nae wrote:

> Hi, I have a debien OS installed on VMware. When i do the command nano
> /etc/apt/sources.list, I don’t have the debian.map.fastlydns.net written
> in the file but as soon as I try to do apt update it tells me that
> debian.map.fastlydns.net can’t be reached.

look for files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

[deloptes]

Joe wrote:

> 'No, no,' said the academics, 'the whole world uses Windows 3 so we
> have to teach that.'

... because they were payed/bribed/lobbied or just fools

BTW it is still the same and it became even worse and no one is doing
anything.
Some 15y ago there were ideas to use open source in the public
administration and the schools. What happened with that? Oh, yes, Microsoft
offered very good conditions ... yes. Then those politicians, free thinkers
etc. stopped talking about opensource and the idea died slowly in the
shadow of 9/11, 2008 Lehman Bros etc.

Lets admit it ... the goal is to shovel the money to (mostly) US
corporations that do not pay any taxes anywhere, to educate the children to
be slaves of the corporations and to consume as much as possible.

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

[deloptes]

Darac Marjal wrote:

> Ask your administrator to enable "Per Application Passwords" -

The admin says "F**k off" :D

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

[deloptes]

Kushal Kumaran wrote:

> I think IMAP should work regardless.  My workplace uses federated
> authentication, and davmail works fine for me.

I think it depends how it is setup and what policy applies. Especially this
3D authentication is not likely to be implemented in the opensource
software and non of it works for me.

Re: Evolution

[deloptes]

Cindy Sue Causey wrote:

> My intentions are to try it again one day to attempt to figure out why
> it didn't work. It's comforting to know it's not just me encountering
> something usability related there.

:) thank you for sharing this. I can share the comforting.
I dropped Gnome into the basket around 2001 (now exactly 20y later it is
still in the basket)
Especially Evolution never kept the promise - no idea why gnomes are doing
this. IMO they like it and never learn from the mistakes. Another thing I
can imagine is that you can write a driver in C but not a GUI, but here
some people will object for sure ...
If someone has a good reading, it's welcome.

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

[deloptes]

Kasper Loopstra wrote:

> What is the best desktop environment or other application to try for this?

There are ports of Sailfish OS for x86 or if not suitable something around
nemomobile and the  like
https://sailfish-x86.yeheng.org/

Re: Evolution

[deloptes]

Jerry Mellon wrote:

> Hello,I have been using Debian 10 now for about 6 months and all of a
> sudden Evolution will not allow me to login.I am getting a box while
> Evolution is starting and loading that says "Please enter the password for
> @xxx"an below is my user ID and the password as dots. I reenter
> the password(checked at to correctness). The box disappears but returns in
> 10-15 sec.I have logged in to my email account from my browser and user id
> and password are correct.Any suggestions as to what to try.

Unfortunately I gave up on Gnome and it's family of gnomes many years ago.
But I recall this odd behavior from the past when I was checking the
progress of the Gnome desktop from time to time.

example from 2010
https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/461414-Cannot-Use-Evolution-because-of-Keyring-Password-in-gnome

Even if they come up with OnlineAccounts or whatever - honestly I do not
want to insult anybody, but why the waste of human time?

On the other hand to make the reader laugh I think it is probably good that
these developers are busy with breaking and repairing Gnome all the time,
so that they can not break anything else around :D

If you want a stable desktop you know there is one called Trinity Desktop
(TDE) - it just works. But upfront the Evolution monster will behave the
same if you insist using it :D

Re: [SOLVED] Installing Debian from a hard disk with Windows to a USB stick

[deloptes]

Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:

> Is there some other way to attach
> the files correctly?
> Would it work and could I send the
> attachments with HTML?

How it works is just perfect - you do not have to care about it.
I like it this way and obviously many many others.
In your mail it would show up as attached file - don't worry 

Re: Zoom.

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Can confirm: it's juts the other way around -- the native app has
> trouble with me. I don't trust it. So I never installed it, leading
> to... not having had trouble with it ;-P

+1

from time to time we share same POV :)

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

[deloptes]

D. R. Evans wrote:

> I will also say that the modern KDE look, with its rather astonishing
> amount of wasted space, was not to my taste, although that was not the
> principal reason why I installed TDE.
> 
> The biggest two annoyances I find in TDE as compared to KDE are both in
> Konqueror: a) the display of directories does not continually renew on
> changes; b)  when displaying image files, the images are not scaled down
> to fit within the current display panel. So it's not perfect. But I find
> it just a lot nicer to use than modern versions of KDE. Other people
> doubtless have different opinions.

The main reason and goal of the TDE community is to provide a stable working
environment. Indeed there are minor bugs, limitations likely and such as
old code that needs update, which is worked on and done constantly, but if
you want to sit down, do some work and go on - this is the perfect desktop
for me.
Even today with Qt5 the KDE is unstable to my taste, not to mention Gnome.
I want to just sit down do the work I did yesterday or an year ago and not
start debugging some application, configuration or whatever that was
working before. Another advantage is the low disk, memory and CPU
footprint.
And you can install and use all the shiny KDE5 or Gnome stuff you like.

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

[deloptes]

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

> The bullseye-RC1 iso files are out: Bullseye is frozen so there aren't
> many files moving at the moment - now would be quite a good time to try
> an installation - and tell folks how it went.

tried, but there are things not working, missing etc. Nothing unusual, but
now I plan upgrades for late summer or even later

Re: Any Debian BPMN editor (or a converter)?

[deloptes]

Markos wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm working with a group that is developing process diagrams in BPMN
> format using the Bizagi tool (www.bizagi.com/en).
> 
> Everyone is using Windows but I use Linux (Debian 9.4).
> 

Everyone is using Windows but you are using old Debian :)

> But there is no version of Bizagi for Linux.
> 
> I tried to install and use many Open Source alternatives for Linux:
> 

Did you see Eclipse - it has BPMN module, although IMO not as good as the
pro stuff but very close to it.
Eclipse is very powerful tool - but is complex and takes time to setup and
learn - be patient and make backups of the installation directory before
doing changes.

Re: which mixer can show sound volume as colorful bar

[deloptes]

Cindy Sue Causey wrote:

> Of note: Being the package that other packages build upon, maybe
> there's not room to add that declaration within the package because of
> conflicts that might then occur. In that case, maybe it's something
> that could become of those ~2 or 3kb optional external packages that
> I've seen apt-get update on occasion.
> 
> Just thinking out loud...

I don't know how modern Gnome or KDE handle these. Time ago these were
pretty flexible to configure.

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

[deloptes]

Gene Heskett wrote:

> A warning to others, a "sudo apt install avrdude" did a just barely
> announced reboot of my machine, and it has taken me nomonally half an
> hour to restore everything that had x jerked out from under it. It
> killed x before it announced it on a text screen. The reboot was, shall
> we say, messy. No /var/run/locks were removed, so kmail had a cow when
> it was restarted.
> 
> That was on my stretch system, it did not repeat on a buster install. But
> no TDE is in use there either.
> 

You've still not updated this stretch of yours - shame on you!

> This device, a usb dongle labeled "USB ISP version 2.0" is apparently not
> well supported by avrdude. And unforch, the ATmel address in the man
> page is now re-directed to a Microchip site, ATmel I assume having since
> been bought by microchip, the product listing on that web page does not
> include the ATmega1284p, and while an option "-c usbtiny" gets a device
> listing that includes the ATmega1284p, this isn't a usbtiny. I am
> guessing from the instructions that this dongle has a memory area where
> the patches for marlin, the printers rs-274d driver, are kept, accessed
> and uploaded to the flash in the printers controller. But thats a WAG.
> 
> I'll email the author by cc'ing, maybe he can help.
> 
> Anybody have a better idea?

I use mySmartUsb light (~16,-) with the avrdude and with a self soldiered
Atmel programmer board for ~12,-, but knowing your skills and context, I am
sure you need only the USB stick.

Re: which mixer can show sound volume as colorful bar

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Why risk hurting someone's feelings "just for" a joke? Why risk
> putting someone at risk of state repression?

I do not risk anything

Re: which mixer can show sound volume as colorful bar

[deloptes]

Long Wind wrote:

> these days communists pay only lip service to communism ideology
> concepts such as red or revolution are rarely used in communists'
> propaganda

this is why I wrote it is a joke. We do not understand why you want to
change the color. AFAIK the color is part of the theme you are using.

as others mentioned you have to run the audio through some other kind of
utility (eg. a kind of audio player) where you can use equalizing features
to display the sound level. The difference to windows is that in Linux you
have the flexibility to choose what you want to run on the system. the
pavucontrol is meant to manage audio not to give you such customization
options such as changing the way it looks.

Re: which mixer can show sound volume as colorful bar

[deloptes]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Why?

why "joke" or why the joke

Re: which mixer can show sound volume as colorful bar

[deloptes]

Long Wind wrote:

> it seems that pulseaudio is about to supersede alsa?

no, pulseaudio is an application friendly layer on top of alsa

Re: which mixer can show sound volume as colorful bar

[deloptes]

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> What is the problem you are trying to solve?

Joke: he doesn't like the blue color in the VU meter in the pavucontrol,
because in China red is required to be on the safe side :)

Re: looks like I need an hid interface

[deloptes]

Gene Heskett wrote:

> It looks as if dfu-programmer might work, but I just went to a buster
> machine and installed dfu-* but the --targets listing output does not
> include this particular ATmega1284p chip.

I also use avrdude & co - never had that big ATmega chip

Re: scanner recommendation

[deloptes]

Gregory Seidman wrote:

> It's a cheap workhorse. I haven't tried it with Linux but it doesn't
> require any special software or drivers on macOS, which makes me think it
> is entirely open standard.

and how do you operate it on mac? and why you are posting when you are not
sure it works under linux?

Re: [?]List of Best Debian-approved laptops in India

[deloptes]

Susmita/Rajib wrote:

> But in the end. may the two laptops, HP and HCL, be please ignored.

It is not about the make, but about the model. In general I recommend
choosing the business line if possible (perhaps buy used one), but still
only experience with the hardware can be the right. For example Dell
Latitude 5440 excellent, 3440 poor. HP ProBook is also not bad

Re: Not Sure Which Package to Submit Bug Against

[deloptes]

David Wright wrote:

> On Tue 13 Apr 2021 at 00:49:48 (+0200), deloptes wrote:
>> Kent West wrote:
>> 

>> 
>> Perhaps you try locking the session of the first user and see what
>> happens - if the second has access to the audio.
> 
> It would also be interesting to know what happens when the first
> person logs in remotely and a second person then logs in at the
> console. Does the first person get ownership at all, and if so,
> does the second person wrest it from them?
> 

I read the documentation around ConsoleKit and systemd-login (which is more
or less the same) briefly
A difference is made by console login and remote login. All this
restrictions are related to local login, where the user occupies the
hardware, because obviously only one user can sit infront of the PC.
What I wanted to try, but did not have the time to do is to test all of this
after installing ConsoleKit ... or better wait for Debian 11.

Re: TDE Bug: what package responsible

[deloptes]

Dan Ritter wrote:

> q4os appears to be a Debian derivative, so presumably they would
> know better than we as to what is going on. I can't find a
> mailing list, but I do see a forum at
> https://www.q4os.org/forum/
> 
> I'm going to guess that they will want a better explanation of
> the symptoms than "tdestartupconfig complains and goes tits-up".

yes and also Q4OS would probably not solve the problem as TDE has its own
user mailing list.

Please, do not forget to attach what exactly tdestartupconfig complains for.

Re: Not Sure Which Package to Submit Bug Against

[deloptes]

Kent West wrote:

> I did some experimentation afterwards, and have discovered that if
> user X mutes the mic, the mic then seems to be "owned" by user X, and
> no one and no OS can seem to unmute it. I was using the machine as
> user Y, which is why I couldn't unmute it, and when I handed the
> laptop to the hardware tech, logged in as user X, bingo! He umuted it.

I was looking into the same recently and reached the point of systemd +
ConsoleKit

Quote: "ConsoleKit ConsoleKit is a framework for defining and tracking
users, login sessions, and seats. ConsoleKit is currently not actively
maintained. The focus has shifted to the built-in seat/user/session
management of Software/systemd called systemd-logind!"

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/

Basically the first logged in user takes ownership of the hardware and
ConsoleKit or systemd utility should handle the ownership if a second user
logged in.
I have not come so far to test this to the end.

Perhaps you try locking the session of the first user and see what happens -
if the second has access to the audio.

Re: Print drivers for Canon Imageprograf Pro-300?

[deloptes]

Will wrote:

> I've looked at Turbo Print - https://turboprint.info/ - and I certainly
> don't mind paying for a driver if it fills the need I have.  I know the
> Pro-300 is pretty new, so I'm wondering if anyone on the list has either:
> 
> * Used the Turbo Print driver for the Canon imageprograf Pro-1000 with the
> Pro-300.
> * Or used a generic Postcript Level 3, CUPS, or similar driver for it
> 
> I may end up contacting the Turbo Print folks to see if they're working on
> a pro-300 driver, but I figured it couldn't hurt to hit up this list as
> well. :)

I do some research before buying any product and never failed. It may cost a
bit more, but at the end it works without an issue. The last printer I
bought was HP 402dn for a little under 200€. The last HP 5L worked for
almost 20y. I expect this one to work at least 10

https://www.canonimagedrivers.com/canon-imageprograf-pro-300-driver/

obviously linux support is a myth for that - or can one use the Mac OS X
driver for cups?

Re: bug considering accent marks

[deloptes]

David Wright wrote:

> AIUI you really want to avoid using accented characters or any sort
> of composition in your username and password. The reason is that if
> your computer gets set in any unexpected language setting (or unset),
> you might not be able to login at all, and unable to correct things.
> 
> I don't kow much about GUI login screens and whether they take account
> of this at all. But that's just my advice.

I would say you should have at least one account using ASCII chars for the
user and password

Re: ping gateway ok, ping any other local network address fails

[deloptes]

Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

> I don't see any reason why your computer could not ping the printer,
> since you can ping gateway IP and access the Internet from it.
> I suspect printer's IP address has changed somehow, or it is in powered
> off state (some printers can power off themselves, if they were not used
> for a set period of time).

if netmask is /32 or /30 ?

Re: Using a remote computer and VGA

[deloptes]

Richmond wrote:

> Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote
> computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on
> L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the
> displayed browser window back to the X window on R, and then move
> it across to the television attached to the VGA port on R?

I doubt. Usually you have 10 to 1 down/upload speed for the customer network
so even this would be possible I doubt that you can render and transfer the
data over TCP/IP with sufficient quality.

What is the issue with VPN or proxy? Have you tought of such? There is still
the limitation in the traffic, but you haven't the issue with the rendering
at least.

Re: vlan interface renamed

[deloptes]

Erwan David wrote:

> Le 06/04/2021 à 22:39, deloptes a écrit :

>>> Is it a bug in ifrename ?
>> 
>> if you refer to something like this here
>> https://wiki.debian.org/InterfaceRenaming
>> IMO it means youare living in the past
> 
> I am in the present and the present does not work. That's the problem. A
> logical interface defined and configured in /etc/network/interfaces
> should keep the name defined in the config file and be configured
> according to the configuration.

Sorry for the accusation. On the debian servers I do not use systemd yet. On
the RedHat with systemd the configuration is done in a different way.