Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
On a different perspective, I always try to think of Terms and Conditions being binding on the *website* not on the user - the user is giving us data as long as we agree to follow our Terms and Conditions. Then the TCs are things like we won't sell your email address and so on. Tim On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Gregor Kiddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My main issue with the idea of the TC being legally binding is the assumption that the person who used the system is the same person who agreed to the Terms and Conditions, or even that they agreed to the Terms and Conditions at all! Take the recent Flash Player click-jacking fix. If a website used click-jacking to get someone to click agree on a TC dialog they never see, are they still bound by it? Bigger picture again for a website, how can you actually legally prove that someone has ever agreed to your TCs? Without some piece of user identifiable information replacing the simple click action, this is impossible. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Favourites or Favorites
As someone who uses UK spelling and is often confronted by US spelling, I actually don't care what is written on the UI. It's only really an issue if software is spell checking my work - and it's really annoying if it tells me to write color instead of colour (like firefox just did then - damn you firefox!) Tim On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Harikrishna V P [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: For an internationalised software product will you use the term Favourites(UK) or Favorites(US) Internet Explorer in its menubar uses the term Favorites(US). Please let me know your thoughts. Warm Regards, Harikrishna VP, Consultant-Usability Engineering Usability Engineering Team | Technology Competence and Consulting IBS Software Services | IBS Software Services DISCLAIMER: The information in this e-mail and any attachment is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, kindly contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original communication. IBS makes no warranty, express or implied, nor guarantees the accuracy, adequacy or completeness of the information contained in this email or any attachment and is not liable for any errors, defects, omissions, viruses or for resultant loss or damage, if any, direct or indirect. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interface Design vs Interaction Design
Aaah. Maslow's hierarchy of needs. I was reading some psychology recently and it turns out that there is no hierarchy - that is, you don't need to satisfy the lower levels in order to satisfy the higher levels. I just wish I could remember the book I was reading that cited this! (although Wikipedia does mention some of the anti-heirarchy research at the bottom of the article). Tim On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Jarod Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andy, I'm saying this, by the way, as someone writing their PhD on interactivity and trying to find and build definitions in it. Sigh. I don't particularly agree that someone needs a goal to drive the interaction, not an explicit one at least. A lot of what I've written about and done in the past has been about play and playful discovery in interaction, both in an arts context as well as an approach to interaction design. Play is much more open and not necessarily goal-based (and when it is, it's a game instead). That's the great point. Maybe motivation( for needs) is better than goal for the people side. And, maslow's motivation theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_needs) fits well at this place. Cheers, -- Jarod -- http://designforuse.blogspot.com/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interface Design vs Interaction Design
Hi everyone, I conceive interface design as a combination of visual design (if it is a visual interface), interaction design, and information design (or IA) and some other skills. Although they are deeply intertwingled, and some people might disagree, I see visual design as the part of UI design that lets people quickly and easily understand and start using an interface, Information design as the part of design that lets people navigate to information they need, and interaction design as focusing on the needs and tasks and goals of the users and ensuring that the functionality is easily guessable (or intuitive or usable or...). Tim On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:36 AM, David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be honest, there may or may not be any difference at all at the level of practice. One term has gained more traction as it has moved away from GUI software design where UI has been prevelant and has been encompassing systems design and hardware interface design as well as service design. In many ways, Interaction design is interface design (but not graphical interface design). It is about the story that is made up of moments of dialog between different interfacing moments made complex through intelligent connections and relationships. To me Interaction Design is an evolution from Interface Design historically. Then academically I think Interaction Design is much more than interface design in many ways. Interface Design really doesn't have academic offerings outside of computer science that I have seen. The closest are interactive design programs that are mostly either computer arts programs or skills certification programs. But Interaction Design especially in the European schools has built itself out of the Industrial Design tradition of design education that combines craft and thinking processes as well as a long history of critique. So your question can be answered in so many ways and most answers are going to be skewed by a persons current context and their community/geography connections to their practice and education. It is basically evolving, but through IxDA and other efforts I would say the direction is as I describe it above. But I'm sure others have other thoughts. -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34525 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Web 2.0 for Banking and Insurance industry
Hi everyone, Is it a bad thing that users are only given a set of tasks to perform? If their goals are to simply manage their money (as mine are when I go to a banks' internet banking site) then we might hinder our users by giving them an innovative and interactive experience. Outside internet banking, however, I do see the use for 2.0 ideas in banks. If nothing else, then blogging by the CEO! Tim On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Aadesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the replies guys! All the online banking systems are more often then not mechanical in terms of performing the tasks. A user is given a set of links that he/she can use to perform tasks How can we make it more interactive and more humane and make it an innovative and interactive experience for the user? Thanks Regards, Aadesh . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34445 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interface Design vs Interaction Design
I suspect that this is also what happened to plain old usability. It got applied to everything and as such has lost most of its meaning. I'm with Andrei here - we need a decent defination or else interaction design risks being a lost term. On ther other hand, I think User Experiance Design was a lost term before it was devised and doesn't have any meaning anyway ;) For me, interaction design is about determining the optimal interaction between a person and a technology to help the person achieve their goals and needs. To help model interactions I write use cases and link these back to the goals in my user role (or Actor) description. Tim On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:14 PM, William Brall wrote: So where in this melange of different systems is the interaction design? It is everywhere. Because road planning and signage theory, and all of this are also a form of interaction design. I am often accused of pushing my own experiences onto public discussion of the definitions of certain things. But surely this is even beyond what I'm accused of, is it not? Attempting to redefine city planning and civil engineering as interaction design? This is the kind of thing -- this broad attempt to make the ultimate umbrella term -- is the very reason why user experience never worked.( What is user experience? It's everything!) If something aims to be everything, it's effectively meaningless for practical, day to day work. -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
Bugger. Just did a reply instead of a reply to all. Tim On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So, I'm not a visual designer and don't think you have to have visual design skills to create great interaction. However, you do need visual design skills to make them look good! http://www.sbscanworks.com/ It's designed to be easy to interact with. Sure, a visual designer could make it look better. But the interaction is easy. I've even done user testing! (and have a couple of changes to make as a result). On a different note, I've seen many visual designer's websites that are damn near impossible to use. The real question, of course, is: For project X, what mix of visual design and interaction design skills do we need to deliver value for our stakeholders? (the mix will vary depending on the project and the users) Tim On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 15, 2008, at 12:32 PM, mark schraad wrote: examples of what? Examples of great working interaction without having visual design skills. -- Andrei Herasimchuk Principal, Involution Studios innovating the digital world e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] c. +1 408 306 6422 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Research supplier near Palo Alto
I've said no and been proven wrong so many times (and right so many others others) that I'm hesitant to say. The best bet is to do some market research and determine the need. The market research can then feed into persona and scenario development. Google is also a good way to see if there are other competitors in the field... A quick search found this: http://www.weddingcardsonline.com/ There are probably others! Tim On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Usable online service (or not)? A constituent has what he calls a killer idea. He wants to open an online store where people can order their wedding card or birth card online. Weddeingcards etc take a big place in our culture en we take great care en pride in selecting these cards. I don%u2019t think that such a concept will catch on? Am I wrong? Our would people really try to order their wedding card online? Would you? if you would think about it, witch kind of option would you think would be usable for users? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34082 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Advice? Dismissal over no more design
And perhaps buy them a copy of the inmates are running the asylum :) On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:35 PM, William Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find a new job at a company that understands the value of design. Run from this backwards place as fast as possible. will evans emotive architect hedonic designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617.281.1281 twitter: semanticwill aim: semanticwill gtalk: wkevans4 skype: semanticwill _ Sent via iPhone On Oct 4, 2008, at 12:29 AM, Acuity Corp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I work in-house as an interaction designer in a technical industry. I am a senior employee. The company has a massive customer base, and lack of design is their core problem. I am the interaction designer, and there is a visual designer I hire on contract. This year, I have laid out full design plans for next generation products to be made until 2010. I'm now told that they are *changing their philosophy.* They want to work in a more agile fashion with all developers doing the design and working with customers. I don't believe that. I am sure they want to downsize by 1. They are targeting cost-savings with a designer versus a developer, as they are in a build-it phase and not a heavy design phase for at least 2 years. Get this. They have offered me a job as an entry level developer bug fixing an older product (which I also designed), not even for the new generation products. I last did software programming 8 years ago. Interaction designer to entry level developer. This is constructive dismissal (the legal term for the switcheroo). They want me to quit (well duh, but it took me a while to believe this since I wouldn't in a million years fire me or someone like me :)) I find this unreal because - product managers are fully planning to use my design plans for the forseeable future (2 years) , so their philosophy change is patently a lie - I never thought I'd have to argue that design is a specialized skillset to the company that desperately wanted these skills - I was consciously trading benefits of being an entrepreneur for the stability of in-house work (albeit with less pay) What am I looking for? - Advice from someone who has dealt with constructive dismissal or with such a situation. - Advice on how I might proove that interaction design and developer is not the same role if this ever gets to court. My employer may argued that interaction design is just the upfront part of coding so it is a realistic job change. thanks, Norman Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Books
There's also the non-designers design book. It's a very good introduction for people who want to know a little about design. Tim On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Rahul Saini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One book I think is an amazing guide to visual awareness is The art of looking sideways by Alan Fletcher - http://www.amazon.com/Art-Looking-Sideways-Alan-Fletcher/dp/0714834491 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33808 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] any websites showing design competition and workshop?
Man. I just managed to twice reply to Susheel and neither time to the list. You shouldn't need a Ph.D. in computer science to use a mailing list! (I have a Ph.D. in computer science and apparently can't use the list). Anyway. Enough grumbling. The HCI bibliography might be a starter... http://www.hcibib.org/ It has a page dedicated to conferences. Tim On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:25 PM, susheel kewaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi All, Would also like to append to what Keyur has asked...are there any particular websites/ links where one can know about the *paper submissions/call for papers* in *user experience* related conferences? Susheel. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Keyur Sorathia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Are there any particular websites which describes interaction design competitions and workshops happening in the world? Cheers!! -- Keyur Sorathia http://towardsbetterinteraction.wordpress.com/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interface Design Sites anyone?
There's always the opposite: http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com Tim On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Brett Lutchman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey gang, does anybody know of any good sites that host best interface design images or sites? I'm not talking about best sites in general, but a location that specifically focuses on interface design. I'm already aware of Deviant Art and frequent them often. Thanks in advance. -- Brett Lutchman Web Slinger. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] right hand vertical menus
The research I've read seems quite explicit: people don't tend to look at things on the right :) (things are sidebars, adds, and other things like that...) Tim On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Chris Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do people have any opinions on these? i know left hand is normal, and i understand its todo with how users scan a page... but can a right hand menu work? anyone have any fews on the pros and cons? Cheers, Chris Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Needs-based paginated wizard
I'd take that motivation up a level! User goal: to make a movie about their daughter's 5th birthday and not feel stupid when doing it :) Need: upload and edit movies on computer Technological requirement: lots of RAM, fast and big HD, good graphics card. Tim On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:02 AM, John Gibbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so there's a fine line between things like 'needs', 'features' and so on. Perhaps motivations needs is better* ... moving away from the coffee analogy let's try IT: Motivation: I want to edit movies on my computer Need: High RAM good graphics card The point is that the Starbucks tool attempts - not entirely though - to question the user's taste and likes/dislikes as opposed to requiring the user to flick through facets such as geographical origin, roast type etc. Bryan's Camcorder tool does a similar thing but feels a bit more 'facety' as it refines the amount of products meeting that criteria. It still asks 'natural' customer-orientated questions though. Keep the examples coming ... John * (I am seriously at pains to avoid another semantic debate, I think those of us subscribed to the IAI list this week are a little definition-weary...) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33112 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Drop-down menus disadvantages?
bloody mailing list :) On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If you have time and budget, I'd reccommend doing a comparitive test. Design both and get users to use both. It's your choice to get each user to use both (within user test) or have seperate users (between users test). Each has different advantages/problems: 1. between users tests means that different users use different interfaces so you'll need at least twice as many users and need to control more rigorously for user differences. 2. within users tests means that you'll need to control for learning effects - users will tend to perform the second task faster! You can control for this by using different tasks or randomising the order of the interfaces. Hope that helps! Tim On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Maritn Petrov [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thank you everybody for your suggestions. We will make use of them in our discussions with our colleagues. Meanwhile, we are thinking of what kind of usability test might point the problems of using drop-downs for navigation. We guess we shouldn't concentrate much on statistics, such as number of clicks and time taken to complete a task. We can predict most users will have similar success rates, navigating with or without drop-downs, since all necessary links will be provided in the content area. Would you suggest how to approach a usability test trying to highlight problems with drop-downs? Martin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=32933 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. -- Kei te kōrero tiki au. Kei te kōrero tiki koe. Ka kōrero tiki tāua. Kōrero ai tiki tāua. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
