[IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-28 Thread Jared Spool

More insight on what they're trying for:

http://www.internetretailer.com/article.asp?id=27601

Rugby.com, up until now a brochure site, joins RalphLauren.com as the  
retailer’s second e-commerce site for apparel and accessories. The  
site will provide several interactive Web 2.0 features, including  
videos that let shoppers click images of garments in the videos to get  
more product details and the option to make an online purchase.  
Dynamic product videos are designed to show how apparel items fit and  
move on a person.


“We are thrilled to extend Rugby’s reach to a larger audience,” says  
David Lauren, senior vice president of advertising, marketing and  
communications at parent company Polo Ralph Lauren Corp. “Rugby.com  
presents a dynamic online shopping experience by recreating our unique  
retail environment in an innovative and impactful way on the Internet— 
we are engaging our customer like never before.”


Rugby.com’s front-end customer experience environment was developed by  
Ralph Lauren’s Interactive Creative Group with GSI Commerce Inc.  
supporting the checkout process, a Ralph Lauren spokesman says. A  
“Make Your Own” feature, for example, will let shoppers customize  
shirts with particular Rugby logos, color patterns and monograms.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-22 Thread Casey Edgeton
There's no use... he can't order the uniforms.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Michael Micheletti 
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 Hey Will, I think you should ask Christine and Benjamin to join the team...

 Michael Micheletti
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-22 Thread Nick Gassman
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:17:38 -0700, Stephen wrote:

www.rugby.com

I can't comment yet. The sound defaults to on, which immediately
messed up the audio I was recording on the computer.  Not pleased
about that. 

*Nick Gassman - Usability and Standards Manager - http://ba.com *

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-20 Thread Michael Micheletti
Hey Will, I think you should ask Christine and Benjamin to join the team...

Michael Micheletti
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Yes. they are indeed nancy boys - better suited to the OC or some other
 special on the WB - certainly less badass than any male or female rugby
 player I have ever met - but that is no worse than the fact that they are
 all hitler youth poster kids for a pure aryan nation.

 On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Christine Boese
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  As another former rugby player, I can certainly vouch for that!
 
  Chris
 
  On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Benjamin Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  
   I've also had this site sent to me from a few people, but mostly
 because
  I
   play rugby, not because of the design/interaction.
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-19 Thread Will Evans
I was referring to the Brand - not to the style. When I went to school (a
long long time ago), brands weren't allowed - and the only logos students
could wear was the school one. No doubt the uniform is required.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Being that my offices are a stones throw away from Philips Andover (where
 G. Bush Sr., Jeb Bush, and G. W. Bush Jr. all went to school) and I drive
 through the campus every day, I can say they do wear exactly this wardrobe.

 I'm going to bet that the kids aren't necessarily the buyers in this
 relationship. There's an entire network of supply chain to get to them.

 However, without talking with the marketing manager, it would be hard to
 decide what the biz goals for the site are.

 Jared


 On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Will Evans wrote:

  But, as a showcase, the latency issue may be less than if someone is
 trying to purchase a complete wardrobe as they get ready to head off to
 Philips Exeter to meet with Buffy and Bif.

 (I find it difficult to look at this site without thinking of this video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTU2He2BIc0)

 You are partially right - to Ralph Lifschitz chagrin - prep school kids
 don't wear ralph lauren - their target market is very very different from
 the bif and buffy folks you see on that showcase site.

 That said - I want to know what the goals are for the site. Knowing their
 target audience, i very much doubt they are surfing from the high school
 dorm room from their macbook up in exeter nh.


 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-19 Thread Christine Boese
So nobody finds it odd that the only people of color visible on the site are
relegated to a section called Social Action?

This site gives all appearance of being a direct export from Apartheid
Nation. Noblesse Oblige, y'all. If the media want to create an overwhelming
image of South Africa to aspire to, all they have to do is paint the
pretty pictures on the exclusive sites, because people learn from them how
to act, aspirationally.

Chris


On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I was referring to the Brand - not to the style. When I went to school (a
 long long time ago), brands weren't allowed - and the only logos students
 could wear was the school one. No doubt the uniform is required.

 On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Being that my offices are a stones throw away from Philips Andover (where
  G. Bush Sr., Jeb Bush, and G. W. Bush Jr. all went to school) and I drive
  through the campus every day, I can say they do wear exactly this
 wardrobe.
 
  I'm going to bet that the kids aren't necessarily the buyers in this
  relationship. There's an entire network of supply chain to get to them.
 
  However, without talking with the marketing manager, it would be hard to
  decide what the biz goals for the site are.
 
  Jared
 
 
  On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Will Evans wrote:
 
   But, as a showcase, the latency issue may be less than if someone is
  trying to purchase a complete wardrobe as they get ready to head off to
  Philips Exeter to meet with Buffy and Bif.
 
  (I find it difficult to look at this site without thinking of this
 video:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTU2He2BIc0)
 
  You are partially right - to Ralph Lifschitz chagrin - prep school kids
  don't wear ralph lauren - their target market is very very different
 from
  the bif and buffy folks you see on that showcase site.
 
  That said - I want to know what the goals are for the site. Knowing
 their
  target audience, i very much doubt they are surfing from the high school
  dorm room from their macbook up in exeter nh.
 
 
  
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-19 Thread Jared Spool
Philips doesn't have a uniform. The kids seem to dress like they've  
just walked out of central casting.


Jared

On Aug 19, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Will Evans wrote:

I was referring to the Brand - not to the style. When I went to  
school (a long long time ago), brands weren't allowed - and the only  
logos students could wear was the school one. No doubt the uniform  
is required.


On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being that my offices are a stones throw away from Philips Andover  
(where G. Bush Sr., Jeb Bush, and G. W. Bush Jr. all went to school)  
and I drive through the campus every day, I can say they do wear  
exactly this wardrobe.


I'm going to bet that the kids aren't necessarily the buyers in this  
relationship. There's an entire network of supply chain to get to  
them.


However, without talking with the marketing manager, it would be  
hard to decide what the biz goals for the site are.


Jared


On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Will Evans wrote:

But, as a showcase, the latency issue may be less than if someone  
is trying to purchase a complete wardrobe as they get ready to head  
off to Philips Exeter to meet with Buffy and Bif.


(I find it difficult to look at this site without thinking of this  
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTU2He2BIc0)


You are partially right - to Ralph Lifschitz chagrin - prep school  
kids don't wear ralph lauren - their target market is very very  
different from the bif and buffy folks you see on that showcase site.


That said - I want to know what the goals are for the site. Knowing  
their target audience, i very much doubt they are surfing from the  
high school dorm room from their macbook up in exeter nh.




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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-19 Thread Will Evans
I suppose this has gone way off topic - and has nothing to do with the
experience of the rugby site - I was only commenting that at some boarding
schools as a student, even if there is no uniform - the dress code of what
is acceptable is such that everyone looks the same - guys must wear leather
shoes with laces, khaki or wool slacks, collared oxfords, white t-shirt
underneath, tucked in, no brand labels of any kind except on athletic gear
etc. so while you may have dressed just like the folks in the ad - it was
not ralph lauren (because everything they make has a logo).

So the real question is - who goes to this site? What was the goal? When the
agency designed the site - what kind of user research did they do or is this
an agency-creative vanity site?

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Catriona Lohan-Conway 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the best uniform I have seen yet was in Canterbury, UK maybe the choir
 school long robes! I know my mother took a scissors to our delightful green
 convent gymslips when the last of her 3 daughters graduated as she was sick
 of the look of them after 7 years!

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 On Aug 19, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Will Evans wrote:

  No dress code at Exeter? I wish I had gone there:-)

 On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Philips doesn't have a uniform. The kids seem to dress like they've just
 walked out of central casting.

 Jared


 On Aug 19, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Will Evans wrote:

  I was referring to the Brand - not to the style. When I went to school
 (a

 long long time ago), brands weren't allowed - and the only logos
 students
 could wear was the school one. No doubt the uniform is required.

 On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Being that my offices are a stones throw away from Philips Andover
 (where
 G. Bush Sr., Jeb Bush, and G. W. Bush Jr. all went to school) and I
 drive
 through the campus every day, I can say they do wear exactly this
 wardrobe.

 I'm going to bet that the kids aren't necessarily the buyers in this
 relationship. There's an entire network of supply chain to get to them.

 However, without talking with the marketing manager, it would be hard to
 decide what the biz goals for the site are.

 Jared


 On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Will Evans wrote:

 But, as a showcase, the latency issue may be less than if someone is
 trying to purchase a complete wardrobe as they get ready to head off to
 Philips Exeter to meet with Buffy and Bif.

 (I find it difficult to look at this site without thinking of this
 video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTU2He2BIc0)

 You are partially right - to Ralph Lifschitz chagrin - prep school kids
 don't wear ralph lauren - their target market is very very different
 from
 the bif and buffy folks you see on that showcase site.

 That said - I want to know what the goals are for the site. Knowing
 their
 target audience, i very much doubt they are surfing from the high school
 dorm room from their macbook up in exeter nh.


 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-19 Thread Stephen Dondershine
Let's see, I've learned that Flash latency is bad, we have a few
prep school grads in the group, and that the purpose of the site is
ambiguous.  Anybody know a good Graphic Design discussion forum?

Kidding. Kidding.  ;)

Steve


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-19 Thread Will Evans
Okay - in all seriousness - on the converse site - i went there and was able
to custom build my black and dark grey chucks - took about 10 minutes with
all the selections -

I did the same thing on the rugby.com site - or wanted to build my own rugby
shirt because we are starting an IxDA rugby team to go against the UPA rugby
team, and I couldn't do it...
Why?

The link brings me to a nice page - after all the Flash loads - giving a
step by step instruction on the value proposition --

and then Coming Soon

I fricken hate Coming Soon -- either have the functionality or don't, but
it took 30 seconds of my life away to watch a beautiful flash intro and then
delivered no happy ending. that is really annoying.



On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Stephen Dondershine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Let's see, I've learned that Flash latency is bad, we have a few
 prep school grads in the group, and that the purpose of the site is
 ambiguous.  Anybody know a good Graphic Design discussion forum?

 Kidding. Kidding.  ;)

 Steve


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-19 Thread Benjamin Johnson

I've also had this site sent to me from a few people, but mostly because I
play rugby, not because of the design/interaction.

The site does look good, graphically.  But it doesn't work half the time (as
mentioned in other posts).  Plus, the guys on the site are definitely not
ruggers and would quickly be left pantless and fetching beers while we stole
their girlfriends.





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LOL! That's a great video. 

Wasn't aware of the latency issues when I submitted the site, but if
you can ever get past them take a look and you'll find a few cool
concepts in there worth thinking about.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-19 Thread Christine Boese
As another former rugby player, I can certainly vouch for that!

Chris

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Benjamin Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I've also had this site sent to me from a few people, but mostly because I
 play rugby, not because of the design/interaction.

 The site does look good, graphically.  But it doesn't work half the time
 (as
 mentioned in other posts).  Plus, the guys on the site are definitely not
 ruggers and would quickly be left pantless and fetching beers while we
 stole
 their girlfriends.





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 LOL! That's a great video.

 Wasn't aware of the latency issues when I submitted the site, but if
 you can ever get past them take a look and you'll find a few cool
 concepts in there worth thinking about.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-19 Thread Will Evans
Yes. they are indeed nancy boys - better suited to the OC or some other
special on the WB - certainly less badass than any male or female rugby
player I have ever met - but that is no worse than the fact that they are
all hitler youth poster kids for a pure aryan nation.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Christine Boese
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 As another former rugby player, I can certainly vouch for that!

 Chris

 On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Benjamin Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
  I've also had this site sent to me from a few people, but mostly because
 I
  play rugby, not because of the design/interaction.
 
  The site does look good, graphically.  But it doesn't work half the time
  (as
  mentioned in other posts).  Plus, the guys on the site are definitely not
  ruggers and would quickly be left pantless and fetching beers while we
  stole
  their girlfriends.
 
 
 
 
 
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  LOL! That's a great video.
 
  Wasn't aware of the latency issues when I submitted the site, but if
  you can ever get past them take a look and you'll find a few cool
  concepts in there worth thinking about.
 
 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-18 Thread Shep McKee

Fail. On my first click, Women...  The site crashed (Server Error)
(And I'm at work - so bandwidth shouldn't be a problem, but the audio  
was so choppy, I shut it off instantly)


Second try: Men server error again...

Third try: Finally I get in. No offense Stephen, maybe I didn't give  
it a chance, but where's the innovation?


Don't get me wrong - it does LOOK nice. But...
- The latency on the main nav is poor
- The latency on the secondary nav makes it almost unusable
- Flash intro on the home page that simply fades to black at the end.  
Above the fold is not a large black field of nothing...
- The flip-page magazine view (is there a name for this pattern) has  
controls that are super-difficult to find



On Aug 18, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Stephen Dondershine wrote:

Had to submit this site to the group as I find it pretty  
interesting. Aside
from some navigation probs., I think this site is very cool and  
demonstrates

an effective and very compelling use of Flash--although it's obviously
geared toward a very young demographic (much younger than me!). I'd be
interested in your reactions--both positive and negative.  There are  
some

innovative ideas in here if nothing else.

www.rugby.com

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-18 Thread Stephen Dondershine
Hi Shep

No offense taken. I have no personal stake in this site whatsoever,
so feel free to rip away.  

I had no technical difficulties or latency with the navigation, so I
can't comment on those issues. There are some load times on a few
other pages, but I think the target audience for this website is
probably an 18-25 year old used to watching youtube videos and
downloading and therefore with more patience in this regard.

A few innovations (at least I've never seen them before):

If you mouseover a shirt on the Men's Rugby page the tool-tip has en
embedded video element wherein a model walks into the tip wearing the
item in question and shows both the front and back of the garment.  I
had no technical problems with this so it was useful for me as a
shopper.

There is a blurb called How to Wear for each item which gives the
User 2-3 tips on how to incorporate the item into their wardrobe or to
coordinate with other items fabrics in the catalog.  I see this as
akin to a context sensitive help for the item in question. 

They've also incorporated a blog into the website--which isn't too
common from what I've seen for online retail clothing sales
(although Ralph Lauren's other websites do the same and so of course
does Amazon.)

There are some navigation design problems for sure. For instance, I
can't figure out how to get back from an item view to a category
view without using my browser's back button--which is a big problem,
and I agree that nav elements (the little pointer hands) in the
magazine navigation are too subtle.

S









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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-18 Thread Sterling Koch
I didn't get the errors, but I confirm Shep's latency issues.  It's hard to get 
past that to comment as to the site's usability.



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Fail. On my first click, Women...  The site crashed (Server Error)
(And I'm at work - so bandwidth shouldn't be a problem, but the audio  
was so choppy, I shut it off instantly)

Second try: Men server error again...

Third try: Finally I get in. No offense Stephen, maybe I didn't give  
it a chance, but where's the innovation?

Don't get me wrong - it does LOOK nice. But...
- The latency on the main nav is poor
- The latency on the secondary nav makes it almost unusable
- Flash intro on the home page that simply fades to black at the end.  
Above the fold is not a large black field of nothing...
- The flip-page magazine view (is there a name for this pattern) has  
controls that are super-difficult to find


On Aug 18, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Stephen Dondershine wrote:

 Had to submit this site to the group as I find it pretty  
 interesting. Aside
 from some navigation probs., I think this site is very cool and  
 demonstrates
 an effective and very compelling use of Flash--although it's obviously
 geared toward a very young demographic (much younger than me!). I'd be
 interested in your reactions--both positive and negative.  There are  
 some
 innovative ideas in here if nothing else.

 www.rugby.com
 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-18 Thread Jared Spool
Having spent a ton of the last 10 years of my life studying the  
usability of e-commerce sites, I can tell you that it's impossible to  
discern usability without understanding the goals of the business.


It's possible that Ralph Lauren won't measure the success of this site  
in revenues (because they want to push those through their retail  
channels and distributors), instead see it as more of a product  
showcase with a well-if-you-really-want-to-thrust-your-platinum-card- 
in-our-direction attitude.


That said, I can see a pile of things I'd look for in usability  
testing, such as product descriptions and completeness of the process.  
But, as a showcase, the latency issue may be less than if someone is  
trying to purchase a complete wardrobe as they get ready to head off  
to Philips Exeter to meet with Buffy and Bif.


(I find it difficult to look at this site without thinking of this  
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTU2He2BIc0)


Jared

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On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Sterling Koch wrote:

I didn't get the errors, but I confirm Shep's latency issues.  It's  
hard to get past that to comment as to the site's usability.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-18 Thread Stephen Dondershine
LOL! That's a great video. 

Wasn't aware of the latency issues when I submitted the site, but if
you can ever get past them take a look and you'll find a few cool
concepts in there worth thinking about.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rugby.com

2008-08-18 Thread Jared Spool
Being that my offices are a stones throw away from Philips Andover  
(where G. Bush Sr., Jeb Bush, and G. W. Bush Jr. all went to school)  
and I drive through the campus every day, I can say they do wear  
exactly this wardrobe.


I'm going to bet that the kids aren't necessarily the buyers in this  
relationship. There's an entire network of supply chain to get to them.


However, without talking with the marketing manager, it would be hard  
to decide what the biz goals for the site are.


Jared

On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Will Evans wrote:

But, as a showcase, the latency issue may be less than if someone  
is trying to purchase a complete wardrobe as they get ready to head  
off to Philips Exeter to meet with Buffy and Bif.


(I find it difficult to look at this site without thinking of this  
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTU2He2BIc0)


You are partially right - to Ralph Lifschitz chagrin - prep school  
kids don't wear ralph lauren - their target market is very very  
different from the bif and buffy folks you see on that showcase site.


That said - I want to know what the goals are for the site. Knowing  
their target audience, i very much doubt they are surfing from the  
high school dorm room from their macbook up in exeter nh.





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