Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
It is my understanding that the squeezenetwork interface and the slimserver interface will shortly both be retired and be updated to the new squeezecenter interface which is supposed to be a unified interface to control your squeezebox. It is also my understanding that the new controller will also be using the squeezecenter interface. That being said, can someone explain if the new controller will be better at controlling the squeezebox compared to using squeezecenter on a laptop? And isn't a laptop just as "portable" as the new controller? -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter vs. SB3 - my experience
SuperQ;255941 Wrote: > It sounds like you had a bad Transporter. I have none of these problems > on mine (or my SB3 for that matter). It is a finished product and works > flawlessly for me. There have been many similar reports of Transporter flakiness, no doubt from perfectly healthy units. It depends a lot on how you use the Transporter. If you don't use the knob or the buttons, don't use or switch to and from the digital inputs, then it seems to work just about flawlessly. Once you begin using the features that make it functionally unique from a Squeezebox, then you may see some of the problems. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41910 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Slim Devices has an excellent track record when it comes to adding features to new products. I'm not sure how long you've been around as a customer or on the forums, but I've never seen a company more focused on adding value to existing products. And that is without even considering the number of user created enhancements that are being used by many Squeezebox owners. But all of that said, I'm willing to pay $300 for an optimized SB remote. Especially since it will really be a remote and another Squeezebox for $400. And if they do enable the DAC + headphone jack, I'll be thrilled. On Jan 9, 2008 1:10 AM, NFLnut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > NewBuyer;256246 Wrote: > > NFLnut IMO you are crazy mistaken there. :) > > > Time will tell. I have my doubts. And until SOMEONE writes the > software, all it is is a remote with pictures. For $300. > > > -- > NFLnut > > NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 > > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
I have to disagree here. Like anyone, I'd rather pay less for it, but I have plans to buy one. And no, I'm not a Transporter customer. I wish I had that kind of money to spend on audio, but I don't. What I want from the SBC is exactly what it seems like it will give me -- a graphical remote which is optimized for controlling my SB3. Put me firmly in the camp that would prefer a device that does one thing well rather than five things adequately. That's the same reason I don't want them to worry about adding things like video to the Squeezebox -- I like that it's optimized for audio. It does that one thing and it does it well. On Jan 8, 2008 10:48 PM, NFLnut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have, IMO way overpriced the controller and using Sonos prices of > their products is a serious mistake in determining the price of YOURS. > You may have no problems selling that $300 remote to your Transporter > customers, but I doubt that you will sell many to your Squeezebox > customers. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
NewBuyer;256246 Wrote: > NFLnut IMO you are crazy mistaken there. :) Time will tell. I have my doubts. And until SOMEONE writes the software, all it is is a remote with pictures. For $300. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver & Leopard
> I still have the problem too. Please file bugs with detailed information, make sure you're using the latest software versions. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter vs. SB3 - my experience
SuperQ;255941 Wrote: > It sounds like you had a bad Transporter. I have none of these problems > on mine (or my SB3 for that matter). It is a finished product and works > flawlessly for me. > I am willing to consider that my experience reflected a subpar unit. However, in view of a few others in the forum reporting similar issues, I felt that the risk/reward ratio was not what I was looking for. I will also say that my experience with every Slim employee I've dealt with has been positive and the forums here provide significant value. One last design suggestion for the Transporter - consider engineering remote antennas. The "rack mount" form factor of the Transporter is probably sub-optimal for the back panel mounted wireless antennas. First, the rack can serve to shield the antennas from the signal and second, the antennas' height require the rack shelves to be oddly spaced. -- mcb mcb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14755 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41910 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter issues
NewBuyer;256227 Wrote: > nfield, for comparison, what version of SlimServer and Transporter > firmware are you using please? SlimServer Version: 6.5.4 - 12568 - Linux - EN - iso-8859-1 Player Firmware Version: 31 -- nfield nfield's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14623 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41819 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Down to the wire between SB Duet vs. Sonos
Ok first off, wow. Thanks for all the great insight. The logistics of setting up the SB system definitely require more thought than Sonos. It does look like that thought could pay some dividends though. Even though I think 2 boxes for each zone (amp + SB receiver) are a little more kludgy than one box, you've shown me the savings can more than offset the slight kludgeality(TM). The track limit is a concern, but I'm not at the limit yet. Sonos users are definitely squawking at that limitation. By the way one other nice advantage of the SB system is crossfading. I'm really surprised that Sonos doesn't offer it yet. Some on that forum have argued that the reason is their older hardware isn't up to the task. (SB can take advantage of the computer's CPU). But not to get too off topic. I have an extra Harman Kardon AVR 7200 that I could use for an amp for some of the speakers. This would be in addition to my current Home Theater Receiver that would concentrate on the TV. I think I could run Slimserver from my Qnap, but it looks complicated. Thanks again for all the comments and signposts/links. I'm checking out some of the threads that talk about Multi-zone installation. Still digesting all this new info into my puny little brain... -- blorty blorty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC article: "Copying CDs could be made legal"
ceejay;256178 Wrote: > (1) what to do with CDs ... search the forum or elsewhere for "jazz > loft" CD sleeves. Give about a 4:1 space compression over jewel cases > > Ceejay. You can read about Jazz Loft in my link :) -- TCM 'Squeezebox 3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -> 'Trends Audio TA-10.1' (http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/trends/ta10.html) -> 'QLN QuBiC 121' (http://www.minhembio.com/produkt/163409) 'WhatTheFuckHiFi.com' (http://whatthefuckhifi.com/) 'Last.fm: ThisCharmingMan' (http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan) 'Save Internet Radio' (http://www.savenetradio.org) TCM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
I'm willing to bet they're working on a cheaper, Squeezebox-free version of the Controller for those who don't want a portable Squeezebox. -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
On 8-Jan-08, at 9:26 PM, erland wrote: > > Nostromo;256229 Wrote: >> What would be the point of the Controller having a DAC otherwise? >> >> Maybe I got it all wrong, but the Controller isn't simply a fancy >> remote, its also a portable Squeezebox. You can plug headphones in it >> or a boombox or whatever. > It will be a portable SqueezeBox but it isn't yet. The reason it isn't > yet, is that the headphone output is still not enabled on the > Controller. Technically, it is enabled. The sound effects can be heard through the headphone jack if you plug in. The main speaker, however, does not turn off when you do and there is no utility on the controller for playing music (yet) There was a thread on the jive forum regarding the use of squeezeslave on jive. It worked, but something official would need to be far better optimised. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
NFLnut;256239 Wrote: > > You have, IMO way overpriced the controller and using Sonos prices of > their products is a serious mistake in determining the price of YOURS. > You may have no problems selling that $300 remote to your Transporter > customers, but I doubt that you will sell many to your Squeezebox > customers. > I think the major problem with the price of the Controller is that most people still seems think of the Controller as a remote control not a portable SqueezeBox. I wonder how the discussion would have been if Logitech had hold of the release until they had enabled the headphone output and instead released the controller under the name "SqueezeBox Portable". I'm guessing some people would still had complained on the price, specifically those that thinks the old SqueezeBox3 is overpriced. But I suspect most people wouldn't really had any problem with $300 for a portable SqueezeBox. The thing is that SqueezeBox Controller can be turned into a SqueezeBox Portable with just a software upgrade. Even if Logitech still hasn't said this straight out, I'm personally pretty sure this is something that is going to happen. It doesn't make sense to me to include the DAC and the headphone output in the Controller if they didn't have this plan. If I've understand it correctly, the DAC on the Controller is the same as the DAC in the Receiver. So the playback sound quality from the Controller might be pretty close to the Receiver sound quality. I think Logitech has priced the Controller based on this plan and not based on the current functionality it offers, this makes it seem a bit expensive at the moment but in just a few months this feeling might change when a software upgrade is available. The physical format will of course still not be as nice as the physical format of most MP3 players. But for a portable player you use inside the house and outside in the garden and to bring to friends houses, I think the current physical format is acceptable. It is for sure a lot easier to bring the Controller to a friend compared to bringing the SqueezeBox3 to a friend. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller menu - anyone have a video?
Not too much of the menu but a video of the controller nontheless: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41894 -- USAudio 'SB3 > CIAudio VDA-2/VAC-1 > CIAudio PLC-1 > CIAudio D-200 > Revel Concerta F12 + SVS SB12-Plus' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=243007&postcount=697) USAudio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8580 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41935 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with issues installing Slim Server 6.5.4.
None that I know of. I still can not figure it out. i will look at the port mapping to see if I can find anything. The IP address is not found and the Squeezebox can not locate the server. What should the default IP address of slim server be after the initial installation. -- Groovit Groovit's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39116 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Nostromo;256229 Wrote: > What would be the point of the Controller having a DAC otherwise? > > Maybe I got it all wrong, but the Controller isn't simply a fancy > remote, its also a portable Squeezebox. You can plug headphones in it > or a boombox or whatever. It will be a portable SqueezeBox but it isn't yet. The reason it isn't yet, is that the headphone output is still not enabled on the Controller. This will happen, it is just a matter of time until Logitech and the community has developed the necessary software. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
NFLnut;256239 Wrote: > ...I doubt that you will sell many to your Squeezebox customers... NFLnut IMO you are crazy mistaken there. :) -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] strange one..
The Xilinx is a CLPD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPLD It's a chip which can be reprogrammed, which is what you do when you go through the "press and hold 1 on power up" procedure. I believe it handles the codecs and some of the general audio operation (the digital to analog conversion is handled by the DAC though). In the rare event I get an audio glitch, this usually clears it up. I think this is what is known as SlimDSP - the codecs are in software so new ones can (and have) been added and others can be changed. This usually fixes it for me. Unfortunately in your case it does sound as if something is malfunctioning, you shouldn't have to redo it every 20 minutes. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: "So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz?" Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Down to the wire between SB Duet vs. Sonos
RK1313;256230 Wrote: > I too am staring at both systems and browse both forums with some > regularity. I'd like to hold the duet and "try before I buy" so to > speak as I've used the Sonos at a Magnolia some time ago and it was > quite nice. Didn't you find the Sonos controller a bit sluggish? That was my first impression. Another nice advantage of the SB Controller is, as another forum participant mentioned, that it can be used one handed. And the Squeezebox gear is much more flexible. You can already read news, get weather conditions & forecasts, and control lights with the Squeezebox Controller. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver BottleRocket FuzzyTime SaverSwitcher SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SBR: customize the button behavior?
dean blackketter;254747 Wrote: > > Squeezebox Receiver > ... > In place of a VFD display it > has a single button with an RGB LED behind it. The color of that > button is under software control and indicates if the device is > connected and working properly. The button acts as a pause/unpause > control, or if you press and hold, puts the Receiver into setup mode. Is that behavior customizable? through SC7 code? Instead of Pause/Unpause, I think On/Off might be nice, especially since SyncOptions seems to be working well (at least with MP3s on 6.5.x; I haven't started porting to SC7 yet) and there are a number of folks with players that are always synced but separately powered. It might be nice to walk into a room, press the SBR button, and have it start playing what its sync group has been playing. It's too bad the SBR doesn't have a headphone jack -- not for headphones, but for IR Blaster, which seems a natural fit for a headless media player. Maybe I'll see more BottleRocket users. ;-) I'm very pleasantly surprised that the final SBC retains the SD slot! I figured the SD slot and the board connector at the bottom would definitely have disappeared, and I'm happy to be wrong about that. -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver BottleRocket FuzzyTime SaverSwitcher SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41961 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
mvalera;254763 Wrote: > Enoch the price is the price. If you don't feel it's worth the money > we're asking, then you can feel free to vote with your wallet. > > It's smaller, faster, cheaper and has more functionality than our > competitor's controller. We feel that we have priced it aggressively. > I'm sorry you don't agree. > > Mike I think you guys have seriously missed the boat here. Your "competition" is not really your direct competition! Sonos' customers are looking for one thing. An all-inclusive, simple to use product that streams audio in a neat little package that puts speakers and amp in one box. Your product is purchased by people who would rather have better (separate) speakers and amp, are more geeky, and know how to put the system and its parts together. They also are looking for a better price. I would guess that many consider the $300 Squeezebox to be a little steep. But at least it plays music. You have, IMO way overpriced the controller and using Sonos prices of their products is a serious mistake in determining the price of YOURS. You may have no problems selling that $300 remote to your Transporter customers, but I doubt that you will sell many to your Squeezebox customers. 'Just a thought .. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] strange one..
ok... i unplugged, then replugged back in while holding "1". Then the player worked... for about 20 minutes I guess the player is broken? sb -- Scott Scott's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=229 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver & Leopard
I still have the problem too. -- ShawnAllan ShawnAllan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39893 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Down to the wire between SB Duet vs. Sonos
schatzy;256107 Wrote: > Blorty, > > Not sure what size your music collection is but be ware the Sonos can > only handle less than 25,000 tracks. In fact even getting close to that > say 23,500 tracks makes the Sonos database slow down to a crawl. Thus if > you are using 5-6 rooms at one time and there is more than one track > playing at a time you will be in trouble. First post but a browser of the forums on a fairly regular basis. Not calling you a liar, but Sonos posts that their limit is 50k tracks and I have never heard of a problem playing to multiple rooms at the same time. I too am staring at both systems and browse both forums with some regularity. I'd like to hold the duet and "try before I buy" so to speak as I've used the Sonos at a Magnolia some time ago and it was quite nice. -RK -- RK1313 RK1313's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
NFLnut;256222 Wrote: > I thought it DIDN'T have a headphone jack! Now I'm confused. What would be the point of the Controller having a DAC otherwise? -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter issues
nfield;255337 Wrote: > I was going to post about this same issue when I saw this thread. I > have a Transporter with several weeks of use and I've experienced lock > ups numerous times. However, I've only resorted to unplugging once. > It seems to unlock on its own after a while. > > I thought this might have been a wireless issue and switched to a > cable, but this didn't solve the problem. > > I'm running the Slimserver on a ReadyNAS NV and I'm experiencing > another (possibly related problem). Sometimes music will cut out and > have to be rebuffered. This seems to occur more often when I'm synced > with my Squeezebox 3 in the kitchen. I'm beginning to think the > ReadyNAS doesn't have the CPU power to handle the Transporter requests > at certain times. I have better luck with the SB3 is powered off and > the browser isn't connected to the slimserver. > > Anyone know why the Transporter would lock up or why the music would > repeatedly cut out and need to be rebuffered? nfield, for comparison, what version of SlimServer and Transporter firmware are you using please? -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41819 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
mkozlows;254735 Wrote: > That's interesting enough, but from my perspective it's a remote control > that can only control a single device. Agreeance. Although technically it can control more than one device, but for most of us, that isn't a likelihood. I know there are a few guys here who have more than one SB or Transporter (one I believe had 14), but most of us won't ever have more than one SB. So yes .. it may as well only be able to control one. seanadams;254736 Wrote: > That's a bit like saying why would I need a car - my bicycle has wheels > and takes me everywhere I need to go. > > So ... if ALL you want is "a remote control that only control a single > device", then just keep the free one that came with your SB3! Duet > does much, much, more, but if the added capabilities are of no value to > YOU, why complain that it's available to everyone else? Because the bottom line is that it only has a singular function. It just comes with pictures. So does an iPod Touch. I believe that there are a few here who are using Touch's to control their Squeezeboxen. But then I can take that same Touch and listen to music on the road, and watch a few movies too. All for the same price as your fancy new remote control. Don't get me wrong .. the controller is cool. It's just WAY overpriced! I'm using my Viewsonic Airpanel to view this forum. It was cool when it came out at a whopping $1200. It was "the next best thing" for convenient web access when it came out a few years ago. I bought it on a fire sale for $200 a year-and-a-half later. It is now a dead product. I fear that your controller will suffer a similar demise if it is so overpriced that no one buys it! -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
NFLnut;25622 Wrote: > > I thought it DIDN'T have a headphone jack! Now I'm confused. > The Squeezebox Controller (SBC) DOES have a headphone jack, and it DOES have a IR Emitter. I think many people here are confusing the specs on the Receiver and the Controller. The Squeezebox Receiver (SBR) DOES NOT have a headphone jack (the Squeezebox 3 (SB3) has one), and many people connected an IR Emitter to the headphone jack, but since the new Squeezebox Receiver (SBR) DOES NOT have a headphone jack, it is not possible to connet the IR Emitter. But since the Duet consist of both the SBR and the SBC, you could use the IR Emitter that is built-in in the SBC. -- pichonCalavera *rip* (eac) > *convert* (flac) > *tag* (musicbrainz) > *normalize* (replaygain/foobar2000) > *albumart* (winamp) > *transport* (winscp) > *store* (debian) >*rescan* (slimserver) > *play* (squeezebox) > *hear* (sennheiser) > *scrooble* (last.fm) > *enjoy* (me :) pichonCalavera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13068 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multi Zone Installation help please
gsawdy;256219 Wrote: > I've looked at PC audio cards and my sense of it is that most folks who > are not into recording feel that decoding inside the PC box is very > detremental to the sound quality. That if you want quality playback, > you need some form of external DAC. That's certainly not the impression that I've gotten recently in (probably) those same forums. Certainly, the _potential_ for better sound reproduction lies with having an external DAC, but a lot of audiphiles are running systems with professional sound cards and are quite happy with the sound. That direction of discussion, though, probably isn't relevant to the vast majority of multi-zone audio systems, which are seldom set up with the best sound quality as a priority. Spending $400 to $1000 per sound card per zone wouldn't doesn't much sense when using inexpensive in-wall speakers and a cheap amp. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41118 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
mvalera;254731 Wrote: > The Squeezebox Controller at $299.99 is a great value. > > It's a mini linux computer with an ARM processor, built in WiFi, a > Wolfson DAC (same as the receiver), an IR emitter, a headphone jack, > and a SD slot. > > Mike I thought it DIDN'T have a headphone jack! Now I'm confused. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multi Zone Installation help please
meep;256195 Wrote: > > > I've spent about 4 years looking at a cost effective, DIY multi-zone > whole house audio system. I've looked at the matrix switching, > multi-zone ,1,000+ amps, the various in-wall solutions etc. For my > money, the best solution to a star-topology pre-wired speaker set-up is > as described. Slim Server is such a flexible system. I still feel guilty > about leveraging all the free bits though and will be purchasing a > squeeze box anon. Meep, This is an impressive acheivement. I'd guess it must have taken a year or so just to figure how to get it all to work. I've looked at PC audio cards and my sense of it is that most folks who are not into recording feel that decoding inside the PC box is very detremental to the sound quality. That if you want quality playback, you need some form of external DAC. On top of that, M-Audio's reputation is that it offers good value for the $ for the home recordist, but it doesn't seem to have a top quality sound reproduction reputation. I've been hanging out on a number of forums and I believe these to be widely held views. Not saying its right as I don't know, just my sense after a lot of reading. Were you able to compare the output of your sound card system with that of a Squeeze3? If you were to do it again would you use the M-Audio card or is there another you would choose next time? I've looked at multi output channel cards by supposedly "better" manufacturers and we are talking around $1000.00+-. And I'm not certain that the sound quality would be any better than the squeezebox. George -- gsawdy gsawdy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14330 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41118 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to WM5 Pocket PC?
Pocket player? (http://www.conduits.com/products/player/) - I've seen people say it works with authenticated streams. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36136 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to WM5 Pocket PC?
Any takers? Looking for a Windows Mobile player that will support username and password on the stream... -- nspindel nspindel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36136 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Browser playlist not in sync with SqueezeBox display
I found half the answer to this. The playlist format is in Server Settings->Format and does not reflect the squeezebox's format for Now Playing. I'm still not certian why I have single numbers listed in the formats. -- RainmanRam RainmanRam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multi Zone Installation help please
blorty;256091 Wrote: > Hey meep, > > Cool setup. > > How easy is it for you to play all your zones synchronized or set > different music in each of the zones? > > Thanks. Guys Sorry, did not have notification on this thread and happend across it just again today. Different songs, different zones = easy. Syncronisation = Moderately easy Though, with SS 6.x, syncronisation was not precise and would produce odd echoes standing between adjacent zones. Have recently upgraded to SS 7 but have not tried zone sync yet. @schatzy That Russound Amp certainly looks like a good, low power, flexible solution. However, the T-Amp is hard to beat for price at around $40! I really like that switching, though. @Zaragon Yes, additional zones require speakers and an amp, and a second soundcard if going over 4/5 zones. However, SBs will need some kind of amp anyway. I've spent about 4 years looking at a cost effective, DIY multi-zone whole house audio system. I've looked at the matrix switching, multi-zone ,1,000+ amps, the various in-wall solutions etc. For my money, the best solution to a star-topology pre-wired speaker set-up is as described. Slim Server is such a flexible system. I still feel guilty about leveraging all the free bits though and will be purchasing a squeeze box anon. Now if they only did video as well. -- meep meep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12744 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41118 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tracks (mp3) for won't play, SB3 gets stuck
Not that this will help, but a corrupted file may cause this behavior. I have had the odd track on my Cowon DAP freak out on tracks that should play fine and do so on my PC. I cannot explain why, but when those tracks are deleted or re-ripped, the problem goes away. -- breakfastchef breakfastchef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FF & REW improvements w/ Duet and SC7
jclyle;256190 Wrote: > With SC7 coming out and some new hardware, will the fast-forward and > rewind capability be better than SlimServer 6.5? What's in the nightlies now is what will be in sc7, but we have some improvements in the works too. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41956 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] FF & REW improvements w/ Duet and SC7
With SC7 coming out and some new hardware, will the fast-forward and rewind capability be better than SlimServer 6.5? -- jclyle jclyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41956 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 turning on the server
Hi I have been trying to search the forum for answers, but can not find any appropriate answers. I run a XP home machine in the basement away from the SB3. Wake on lan is enabled. I run a plugin and script for hibernating. It all works, but the network traffic from the SB3 is waking the server up immediatly after 2 sec. With the SB3 unplugged, the server keeps hibernating. I would very much appreciate any answers. Best regards Bjorn -- Polarbear Polarbear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12996 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41955 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
I am way psyched about the controller and will buy one on day one. If it was a little less pricey, I would buy two. Way to go. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SS keeps going into "PAUSE" on it's own???
hi rainmanram! thanks for your thoughts. i checked the MAC adresses, but they seem to be OK - in my router, in slimserver and in the SBs themselves. would have surprised me too, because they both work perfectly when playing UN-synched, at the same time. it is only the synch which seems to cause my problems, and that is also why i am not sure i am in the right thread here... oh well, guess i will just wait for SC7 release. -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC article: "Copying CDs could be made legal"
(1) what to do with CDs ... search the forum or elsewhere for "jazz
loft" CD sleeves. Give about a 4:1 space compression over jewel cases
(2) back to the original topic ... a well hidden part of the proposal
being consulted on is that the right to copy ("format shifting") as
proposed by the original Gowers report would only apply to "works
published after the date that the law comes into effect".
Although, to be fair, the current consultation document goes a bit
further and prefers the option to "Allow format shifting of works
copied after the exception takes effect" (note that this would NOT
legalise our existing libraries!).
Ceejay.
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Re: [slim] New NAS devices by Netgear (Infrant)
EddieZ;256172 Wrote: > Does new capacity really allow them to say "new products" - aren't they > the same products with bigger hard drives? Okay... looks like a few > changes, but nothing substantial. New capacity is really just software changes that accomodate larger drives. For some reason they aren't able to anticipate the next generation of drives and have their software work with them when they're released. Actually, their software has problems with a lot of drives, so make sure that if you're adding or upgrading drives that they're on the compatibility list. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41378 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
My understanding is that the headphone jack currently cannot be used to play streaming music, but it sounds like that will be enabled eventually. On Jan 8, 2008 4:38 PM, Mike Siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is the Controller basically a handheld receiver that doubles as a > controller for different SB devices? ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New NAS devices by Netgear (Infrant)
Does new capacity really allow them to say "new products" - aren't they the same products with bigger hard drives? Okay... looks like a few changes, but nothing substantial. I have a Drobo (yes, you NAS'heads can take your swings at me) - and new capacity isn't a problem... ever. Just add bigger drives, takes 2 minutes, done. Seems like waiting for the "new model" to get extra capacity is a bit extreme. Eddie. -- EddieZ EddieZ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41378 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Automatic Start of SlimServer System Preference On Mac
Ralph Plumb;251344 Wrote: > After upgrading to Leopard on my iMac, my Slim Server no longer opens > automatically when the system boots even though I have set it to do so > in System Preferences. The preferred way on Mac OS X 10.5 to automatically start applications has changed slightly. The preferred method is now via LaunchDemon. I had to use this way to get MySQL started automatically after migrating to Leopard. Documented on this page: http://blog.tomatocheese.com/archives/2007/11/1/migrating_mysql_to_mac_os_x_leopard/ The latest 7.0 build starts automatically on my Leopard. I had some problems on my server, when I migrated from 6.x to 7, but after cleaning all, the 7.0 server now seems to be working. My problems where obviously related to the database: [08-01-08 22:49:32.3970] Slim::Schema::Storage::dbh (38) Warning: Unable to connect to the database - trying to bring it up! [08-01-08 22:51:03.9204] DBIx::Migration::migrate (115) Warning: Database error: Can't DROP 'thumb'; check that column/key exists at /Library/PreferencePanes/SqueezeCenter.prefPane/Contents/server/CPAN/DBIx/Migration.pm line 115. [08-01-08 22:51:03.9221] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (1361) Warning: Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized! [08-01-08 23:16:11.1502] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (1361) Warning: Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized! [08-01-08 23:17:30.8705] DBIx::Migration::migrate (115) Warning: Database error: Can't DROP 'thumb'; check that column/key exists at /Library/PreferencePanes/SqueezeCenter.prefPane/Contents/server/CPAN/DBIx/Migration.pm line 115. [08-01-08 23:17:30.8723] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (1361) Warning: Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized! -- harald.walker harald.walker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=316 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
erland;256144 Wrote: > To those that likes the SqueezeBox Controller to be a universal remove I > can honestly say that I had the exact same idea until I felt the Jive > prototype. > > After having the chance to use the Jive prototype I've changed my > feelings a bit. A Harmony remote based on Jive software would be really > great, but my feeling is that it will never be as great as SqueezeBox > Controller to control the SqueezeBox players. The reason is that the > SqueezeBox Controller is optimized to control a SqueezeBox player and > Harmony universal remote won't be. The Harmony remote on the other hand > will be optimized for controlling several types of equipement which the > SqueezeBox Controlder won't be. > > My feeling is that the optimal solution will be: > 1. A Harmony remote which is used for power on your system and doing > simple things like launching a random playlist. > 2. A dedicated SqueezeBox Controller for browsing your library when you > look for something to listen to. > I'm not really disagreeing with you, but it sure seems to me like the 3-axis accelerometer could make up for missing buttons in a given context. Maybe it wouldn't make a perfect universal controller, but it seems like it could work well for daily-use. But, I guess we won't know until some folks start hacking out code for the thing. Who knows? We might all be surprised by how useful the SBC ends up being. Mitch -- Mitch G Mitch G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=548 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Is the Controller basically a handheld receiver that doubles as a controller for different SB devices? Mitch Harding;256146 Wrote: > There is a headphone jack on the controller. > > On Jan 8, 2008 3:36 PM, Mike Siegel > > wrote: > > jack on the Controller? > > > > > > > > mvalera;254681 Wrote: > > > I'm happy to announce that we have launched the all new > Squeezebox > > > Duet! > > > > > > Squeezebox Duet lets you listen to the music you love in any room > in > > > your home. Access millions of songs even when your computer is > off. > > > The multi-room controller with 2.4-inch color display makes it easy > to > > > browse, select, and play songs from your personal collection, > Internet > > > radio even online music services. > > > > > > A convenient scroll wheel, simple menus and intuitive buttons make > > > navigation a breeze. Advanced 802.11g technology eliminates the > need to > > > string wires. Enjoy crystal clear, CD-quality audio on your home > theater > > > system, your bedroom stereo, your kitchen mini-system anywhere > you > > > have audio gear. > > > > > > Check out the details: > > > http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_duet.html > > > > > > Press Release (once they get it up): > > > http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/172/4180 > > > > > > Some really really big pics for those who want them (The LCD is > > > simulated): > > > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_beauty_large.jpg > > > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_top_large.jpg > > > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_ray_large.jpg > > > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_ray_shuck_large.jpg > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > -- > > Mike Siegel > > > > > Mike Siegel's Profile: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=466 > > > > View this thread: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 > > > > > > -- Mike Siegel Mike Siegel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=466 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC article: "Copying CDs could be made legal"
TCM;256089 Wrote: > Get rid of the jewelcases and you'll save a lot of space. > > http://www.livingwithmusic.com/index.php/main/comments/cd_sleeves/ Thanks for that link. Been thinking about doing this myself - I need the space. As I have posted elsewhere- remember to check if your jewel cases are recyclable - many of them are. -- Sam Lowry Sam Lowry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3447 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
Regarding Pandora we have the same problems in Germany . Now the only available and good (just my opinion!) service is Napster. Are there any plans to support Napster in the near future? Thanks -- mmbeamer mmbeamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multi Zone Installation help please
The main problem here is a number of amplifiers are needed to power all the separate speakers especially if you want them to be able to independantly and simultaneously play different music. I'm sure there are multi-room amps but they are probably at professional prices. One solution, except for the amps, would be the new Duet with extra receivers. It would be a simple job to put all the receivers in the central location on a Cat5 switch. A multi-amp or even separate amps in the same place driving the speaker wires. The wireless controller then is full multi-room use. If you want to consider SB3s in each room there are systems that will provide ethernet over the speaker wire that is in place. These used to be called line drivers but are essentially limited power DSL systems usually designed to be retrofited into hotels that have only telephony wiring to the rooms. You could also look at power line systems to get cat5 into the rooms. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41118 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Tracks (mp3) for won't play, SB3 gets stuck
I've had my setup for awhile (2 SB plus running Softsqueeze - WinXP machine for the server - for more than 1.5 years now). In the last few weeks, my SBs & Softsqueeze have run into 2 different tracks from different albums which it will not play. They are .mp3 and I think are encoded the same as the rest of the album. They play fine using in and all alternate media players I have (MediaMonkey, WMP, itunes). I have 6.54 slim server running. What happens is that it appears the song gets stuck at the end of the track and won't proceed to the next track. If I skip over the track, it plays the next one fine. I am trying to narrow down the problem, anyone have an idea? Thanks -- Sam Lowry Sam Lowry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3447 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Jim, thanks for the answer! I didn't want to try locate the info myself in the JHive-threads and besides, I think it's good for others to read in this duet-thread instead of trying to search for the info and perhaps not finding it. So thanks to you and bklaas for clearing this out. And good to see that it was a quick response from you Jim. Not often that the marketing dept answers that quick in companies. I myself have been working at TelCo and TelCoOps as a manager at both marketing, tech and customer care and unfortunatly it's seldom that e.g. product managers participate in direct contact with their audience/customers. Kudos! :) Regarding the remote, I just love the toggle wheel or whatever it's called. I've been using B&O DECT-phones for quite a while and it's sooo convenient and quick to use. So people who are implying that a Harmony and the controller wouldn't be possible to merge, think again. Add a scroll/toggle-wheel to the Harmony and you're there. Use that wheel to scroll through menus at any type of device, instead of clicking like mad on the up/down buttons. Regarding the controller, I understand it had the forward-button to the top right, but the back-button to the low-left of the scrollwheel, correct? For me, that's a weird setup. My 0.02$-suggestion is to move the back-button to the direct opposite of the forward-button. That's more logical. And the name being Logitech... well, go ahead ;) Regarding the sound quality, yes, I agree that the history of SD has shown it has delivered. But the reason I asked was two-fold. First, there's a change from BB to that Wol (sorry, can't see my previous post and am too lazy to open a new browser window) DAC and I have NO idea what that means in real life, second comparing the price of the SB3 and the receiver, I notice a 50% price decrease. Could really the VDC(?) screen, headphone jack and change of DAC really make it possible to decrease the price that much if either 1) the SB3 was overpriced 2) the new DAC is much cheaper because it's of less good sound/build/whatever quality or 3) since Logitech has become quite a big company since I sold computer equipment back in 1991, they also have really good batch prices cmopared to what SD had. Also, I want to say that comparing the Duet with the Sonos is not really fair. The Sonos does after all come with an included/integrated amplifier. Something I'd really want to see packaged with the Duet as well, either integrated or in a bundle. After all, buying a multi-room solution for people, or for first-time buyers for just one odd room, maybe the bedroom, it would be nice to have it all at the fingertips on the websites and not having to run around on all sites trying to find a matchinf amp. Quicker call-to-action if there was an amp-package as well, I think. Still, just my 0.02$ ;) The Sonos is much easier to setup for the iliterated(?) since it's packaged nicely. Too bad for them it's pricetag is huge for the average-Joe, who would be better off with the Duet if it was a more plug-and-play solution That all being said, I'm really happy to see this kind of product finally appear. Sure in my mind it still lacks some small details like the possibility to wake up an amp (if I've understood it correctly), the need of the controller to be able to setup the receiver and it should be available at least in one package as a turn-key-solution. May I make a wish: the next version is possible to use with the old remote (i.e. IR-receiver on the Receiver. Receiver could then be hidden away but have an IR-eye somewhere with an IR-blaster that controls the Receiver) or downloaded IR-codes to any other decent remote. The 2nd thing: To be able to set this thing up without the controller. If the last part would be possible (set it up without the controller) and someone pursuades me the sound quality is as good as the SB3, I'd buy one for each room in my house immediatly! 149 USD is just too good... Keep up the inventions guys! -- nicky6 nicky6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3258 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] strange one..
>From memory it is or is associated with the digital to analog conversion. Being software reprogrammable I believe is his suggesting that it is set back to its default code in case it was corrupted. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] strange one..
what is Xilinx? thanks sb -- Scott Scott's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=229 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
To those that likes the SqueezeBox Controller to be a universal remove I can honestly say that I had the exact same idea until I felt the Jive prototype. After having the chance to use the Jive prototype I've changed my feelings a bit. A Harmony remote based on Jive software would be really great, but my feeling is that it will never be as great as SqueezeBox Controller to control the SqueezeBox players. The reason is that the SqueezeBox Controller is optimized to control a SqueezeBox player and Harmony universal remote won't be. The Harmony remote on the other hand will be optimized for controlling several types of equipement which the SqueezeBox Controlder won't be. My feeling is that the optimal solution will be: 1. A Harmony remote which is used for power on your system and doing simple things like launching a random playlist. 2. A dedicated SqueezeBox Controller for browsing your library when you look for something to listen to. If you like one device to solve both these problems it will be a compromise that isn't really good at anything. Using two devices like this will not be a major problem for me, the reason is that in most cases would be able to do what I want from the Harmony remote. In some cases when I get inspired and like to find something different to listen to, I'll pickup the SqueezeBox Controller and browse my library. The SqueezeBox Controller would be a replacement for the laptop which I today use when I like to browse and search my library when I don't now exactly what I'm looking for. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
There is a headphone jack on the controller. On Jan 8, 2008 3:36 PM, Mike Siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jack on the Controller? > > > > mvalera;254681 Wrote: > > I'm happy to announce that we have launched the all new Squeezebox™ > > Duet! > > > > Squeezebox™ Duet lets you listen to the music you love in any room in > > your home. Access millions of songs — even when your computer is off. > > The multi-room controller with 2.4-inch color display makes it easy to > > browse, select, and play songs from your personal collection, Internet > > radio — even online music services. > > > > A convenient scroll wheel, simple menus and intuitive buttons make > > navigation a breeze. Advanced 802.11g technology eliminates the need to > > string wires. Enjoy crystal clear, CD-quality audio on your home theater > > system, your bedroom stereo, your kitchen mini-system — anywhere you > > have audio gear. > > > > Check out the details: > > http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_duet.html > > > > Press Release (once they get it up): > > http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/172/4180 > > > > Some really really big pics for those who want them (The LCD is > > simulated): > > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_beauty_large.jpg > > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_top_large.jpg > > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_ray_large.jpg > > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_ray_shuck_large.jpg > > > > > > Mike > > > -- > Mike Siegel > > Mike Siegel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=466 > > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 > > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
I saw it asked elsewhere, but didn't see a response: Is that a headphone jack on the Controller? mvalera;254681 Wrote: > I'm happy to announce that we have launched the all new Squeezebox > Duet! > > Squeezebox Duet lets you listen to the music you love in any room in > your home. Access millions of songs even when your computer is off. > The multi-room controller with 2.4-inch color display makes it easy to > browse, select, and play songs from your personal collection, Internet > radio even online music services. > > A convenient scroll wheel, simple menus and intuitive buttons make > navigation a breeze. Advanced 802.11g technology eliminates the need to > string wires. Enjoy crystal clear, CD-quality audio on your home theater > system, your bedroom stereo, your kitchen mini-system anywhere you > have audio gear. > > Check out the details: > http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_duet.html > > Press Release (once they get it up): > http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/172/4180 > > Some really really big pics for those who want them (The LCD is > simulated): > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_beauty_large.jpg > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_top_large.jpg > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_ray_large.jpg > http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_ray_shuck_large.jpg > > > Mike -- Mike Siegel Mike Siegel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=466 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator for SlimServer
tamanaco, I suspect you are using some form of windows operating system, Which one? If i have read your earlier posts correctly the you are using a period "." between the track number and the title. Is this correct? If it is that would be very un-standard as that causes all operating systems to think harder about the file name. All operating systems expect filename.xxx or filename. . By putting in that extra "." (01.filename.xxx) some systems will get very confused and others will just get past it, although slowly. every tagger i have ever tried either used dashes or underscores set up as standard (01-filename.xxx or 01_filename.xxx) As for changing all of your tags that is probably not necessary, but there may be a rouge one out there the is causing some of the problems seen by ACC-RC1. Frank is working on this with all the testing I am doing for him. Hopefully it gets figured out in the next few days. Schatzy -- schatzy Kitchen - SB3 - Russound R235LS Amp - Russound SP-M8IM speakers in ceiling Main Stereo - SB3 - Nikko Beta 30 Preamp - Nikko Alpha 230 Amplifier - Genesis VI Speakers schatzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
wdrazek;256124 Wrote: > > So, Sonos is $750 per additional room whereas Duet is $399. As it does not appear that you must have a separate controller for each receiver, the cost per additional room is actually $150 (149). -- ds2021 ds2021's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
Thanks for your explanation snarlydwarf. I can never get a handle on the value of advertising. I imagine the typical punter to be like myself - not once have I been motivated to buy a Big-Mac while listening to Pandora. I kind of have a figure in my head of pennies per seat per day flowing back into advertisers coffers hence real, regular, subscription money seems so much more valuable. The US business model Pandora is operating under right now is all advertising based (isn't it?) so just how much extra is the RIAA (or whatever) looking for to permit offshore access? Something still doesn't seem to add up (but then again, my maths isn't all that hot) -- iceled iceled's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14893 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
For those who claim Duet is out of touch with real world pricing in the US, consider: The Duet provides what the SB3 does, but has a vastly improved color screen handheld remote control for $100 more at $399. Sonos charges $900 for its base system, but does include a low power built in digital amp. When it's time to expand to other rooms, here is the breakdown: Sonos controller: $399 Sonos Z-80: $349Total: $749 Duet Controller: $299 Duet Receiver: $150 Pkg price: $399 So, Sonos is $750 per additional room whereas Duet is $399. The pricing here is VERY real world and I say kudos to SB. -- wdrazek wdrazek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multi Zone Installation help please
meep, Sounds like a great set up. I use a Russound R235LS amp which draws less than one watt when the audio inputs are not feed from the SB. Then when the SB is putting out audio the amp turns on immediately and stays on for 10 minutes after the last note so that if you have a break in the music like for track changes or some other reason the amp is not turning on and off all the time. These Russound amps can also take a second speaker level for a pass thru of a local stereo. Schatzy -- schatzy Kitchen - SB3 - Russound R235LS Amp - Russound SP-M8IM speakers in ceiling Main Stereo - SB3 - Nikko Beta 30 Preamp - Nikko Alpha 230 Amplifier - Genesis VI Speakers schatzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41118 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] strange one..
Scott;255706 Wrote: > os x 10.4 > ss 7.0 > > ok, this is a bit wierd. I have 4 squeezeboxes. The other day, the > one in my son's room stopped working right. Specifically, it turns on, > gets an ip address, displays the screensaver correctly, displays the > songs, and even looks like sound should be coming out. However, there > is no sound! When I sync this machine with one of the other boxes, it > works fine. When I unsyc, the sound stops (but the display continues > to mark time, as if it is working ok) > > any thoughts from the smart folks out there? > > thanks in advance, > > scott Try rewriting Xilinx, unplug power, press and hold 1 while replugging power. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: "So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz?" Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Down to the wire between SB Duet vs. Sonos
Blorty, Not sure what size your music collection is but be ware the Sonos can only handle less than 25,000 tracks. In fact even getting close to that say 23,500 tracks makes the Sonos database slow down to a crawl. Thus if you are using 5-6 rooms at one time and there is more than one track playing at a time you will be in trouble. Also i spoke with Sonos just a few months ago and they told me that "There is no plan to increase the capacity for there database, and who has that much music anyway." Direct quote. Well that are many people that have that much or more music. My music collection is over 57,000 tracks, and I have heard of other people here on this forum with collections over 80,000 tracks that do not have a problem. I currently have 3 SB3's all running different music at one time off of a Mini iTX board with a Via C7 Processor @ 1GHz and 1 GB RAM. The processor only runs at about 17% this way so there is more than enough room to expand and have more SB's running with different music. As for Kluggy with and extra amp, i have heard the Sonos amps and although they sound OK you could get a much better sounding amp for the difference between the Sonos and the Squeeze Box Receiver. And really you only need one Remote unless you are going to be continuously playing different music in all rooms at the same time. Now look at the costs: Sonos / Slim Devices Controller $399.00 / Controller $299.00 Zone Player 80 $349.00 / SB Reciever $149.00 Zone player 100 $499.00 / SB 3 $299.00 Amplifier you have $200 or more for each zone to play with from the difference in cost. Music StorageYou already have it up and running if you already have a SB3 Oh by the way that is one less you have to buy for a room, so use that money for some other treat you might like to have. To me it's a no brainer. But that is just my 2 cents. I can't wait to get my hands on a Duet. Schatzy -- schatzy Kitchen - SB3 - Russound R235LS Amp - Russound SP-M8IM speakers in ceiling Main Stereo - SB3 - Nikko Beta 30 Preamp - Nikko Alpha 230 Amplifier - Genesis VI Speakers schatzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
I took the opportunity to add the Squeezebox Receiver here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?HardwareComparison Correct away if you see any inaccuracies. Some of it was guesswork since the SBR isn't officially released. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: "So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz?" Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Down to the wire between SB Duet vs. Sonos
JJZolx wrote: > Peter;255998 Wrote: > >> The appearance of Windows Home Server is a clue that more and more users >> >> are starting to understand that a server is a very sensible part of a >> modern household. I've been running one more or less non-stop since >> 1994, I don't think I ever had one consuming 250 Watts though. Maybe >> you >> should consider getting a less power hungry server. >> > > I've read that sales of Windows Home Server systems have been only > "moderately successful", which generally can be read to mean that sales > have been disappointing. The trouble is that most consumers don't yet > see a need for a home server. It's still very much a niche market > being sold to those who already know they want a server and for whom > the WHS appliances provide a simple entry point and familiar face. > Avalanches start with just a few snowflakes ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
iceled;256097 Wrote: > Seeing as though slingbox users are prepared to pay a subscription for > the use of Pandora (once the free trial period is over) I thought > access through the networks used by slingbox could be organized for > paying customers. I don't know who's been banking the subscription > money so far, but surely some of this could pay for Pandora's license > fees? REAL money, not dopey advertising revenues. YM the license fees Pandora must pay rights owners... Sure, Pandora could raise their rates to pay what is demanded of them, but they most likely ran the numbers and realized no one would pay $50/month or whatever it worked out to be. Just because Pandora collects money doesn't mean they collect -enough- money to pay what is demanded from them. Being a business, they need to collect more than they pay or they go broke and as long as the music companies fail to understand that "Music Discovery" type systems like Pandora are to their -benefit- and negotiate special rates, that won't happen. (Last.fm has an advantage: they started in the UK before 'compulsory license fees' were established and had to negotiate pricing with each label: prices much lower than the current 'compulsory' rates. Compulsory rates are set by law, specifically so each radio/net-radio station doesn't have to negotiate with everyone, they just pay the going rate into a fund that is distributed to the labels... The labels are stupid, however, and usually lobby for very high rates, missing the opportunity for advertising their music... radio and now net radio has always been good to push hitmakers and increase sales.) This isn't special to the UK: US netradio is still in danger of stupidly high compulsory fees. As I recall, Rhapsody said it would owe nearly a billion dollars under the last proposed rate structure, presently on hold. Complain to your lawmakers: they are the ones who set the fees. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!
Seeing as though slingbox users are prepared to pay a subscription for the use of Pandora (once the free trial period is over) I thought access through the networks used by slingbox could be organized for paying customers. I don't know who's been banking the subscription money so far, but surely some of this could pay for Pandora's license fees? REAL money, not dopey advertising revenues. -- iceled iceled's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14893 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multi Zone Installation help please
Hey meep, Cool setup. How easy is it for you to play all your zones synchronized or set different music in each of the zones? Thanks. -- blorty blorty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41118 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC article: "Copying CDs could be made legal"
adamslim;256047 Wrote: > Has anyone come up with a good solution to what to do with all the CDs? > I don't want them in my living room any more, and don't want to store > 1000s of CDs either, they take up so much space! Get rid of the jewelcases and you'll save a lot of space. http://www.livingwithmusic.com/index.php/main/comments/cd_sleeves/ -- TCM 'Squeezebox 3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -> 'Trends Audio TA-10.1' (http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/trends/ta10.html) -> 'QLN QuBiC 121' (http://www.minhembio.com/produkt/163409) 'WhatTheFuckHiFi.com' (http://whatthefuckhifi.com/) 'Last.fm: ThisCharmingMan' (http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan) 'Save Internet Radio' (http://www.savenetradio.org) TCM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
ezkcdude;255635 Wrote: > How do you set up the passkey, so that it can gain access to the > network? Or, do you not need to do this for ethernet connected devices? The receiver acts as a stripped-down AP and it communicates with the controller. It still needs to be done for Ethernet-connected receivers since there is no screen to see. I would presume the key is set on the controller, but since I don't have a receiver I'm not sure. It would be similar to setting the controller's own key I imagine. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: "So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz?" Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox options to stream
moschous;256019 Wrote: > I guess that the restrictions will come first from the bandwidth-side. > > is there any way to setup load-balancing while delivering mp3's on big > number of squeezeboxes? That depends on a lot of factors. Wireless: You have 10-15 mbps of bandwidth (as long as your server is on wired ethernet) with 11g networking. If you stream CD quality FLAC files you will need 1mbps. If you stream mp3, you will need .25mbps.. That would give you 10-15 squeezeboxes for FLAC (lossless) or 40-60 squeezeboxes for mp3. Wired ethernet: If you have gige on the slimserver, and all squeezeboxes are wired, you should be able to get 300mbps out of the server, that would mean you could have 300 squeezeboxes on one server. Streaming native content isn't really CPU intensive, but I don't know if anyone's tried doing 300 at one time. :) -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC article: "Copying CDs could be made legal"
adamslim;256047 Wrote: > Has anyone come up with a good solution to what to do with all the CDs? > I don't want them in my living room any more, and don't want to store > 1000s of CDs either, they take up so much space! Mine are in a locked metal box in the garage (2,500 of them). They used to be in the loft. I have a lifetime supply of silica gel sachets... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Down to the wire between SB Duet vs. Sonos
Peter;255998 Wrote: > The appearance of Windows Home Server is a clue that more and more users > > are starting to understand that a server is a very sensible part of a > modern household. I've been running one more or less non-stop since > 1994, I don't think I ever had one consuming 250 Watts though. Maybe > you > should consider getting a less power hungry server. I've read that sales of Windows Home Server systems have been only "moderately successful", which generally can be read to mean that sales have been disappointing. The trouble is that most consumers don't yet see a need for a home server. It's still very much a niche market being sold to those who already know they want a server and for whom the WHS appliances provide a simple entry point and familiar face. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
DougP;255538 Wrote: > 1. The Duet (and individual components) seem really nice and well > featured - however, surely this is a "me-too" initiative, trying to > keep up with Sonos? Seems to me they're keeping up with user requests for a graphical wifi remote and a lower-cost, headless SB. > 2. Are SD/LT really going to keep the 3-tier offerings they now have? > Strikes me this could develop into a hardware maintenance headache for > them and something may have to go (the SBx range?) But they share the same fundamental architecture. The controller is the only really new piece of gear. The receiver is mostly a headless SB, the Transporter is a super-SB. > 3. Are there any other areas we should be encouraging SD/LT to move > into? Video? I've seen this come up again and again - Logitech SMS specializes in audio. Personally I'd like to see a SB boombox/alarm clock with built-in amp and speakers. It's interesting to note that Logitech SMS does closely listen to requests on this forum, the graphical wifi remote and the headless SB have been requested for ~2 years. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: "So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz?" Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Some news from CES: Squeezebox Duet won a CES Innovations 2008 award. Details here: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/172/4177&&cl=us,en Also, according to this (http://ces.cnet.com/best-of-ces/? tag=ces2008_rnav) in the Home Audio category we're up against Neosonik's no-speaker wires technology (which required powered speakers) and Polk Audio single speaker surround sound. Please feel free to vote for your favorite product here: http://ces.cnet.com/ces/peoples-voice/?tag=ces2008_rnav Thanks! -dean ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controlling a hidden SB3
Don't worry about the scripts, the author has done an excellent job. I did have one problem but that was my fault. They only took 20 mins to include in my config and have worked faultlessly since. Glad it helped Fred -- FredBasset FredBasset's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41846 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller menu - anyone have a video?
I believe there's one in the "Duet is here" thread -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41935 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
norderney;255360 Wrote: > My music library contains 2362 albums with 29807 songs by 5062 artists. > > > Would that be ok for the new "controller" or do you think it might > struggle? It doesn't matter, this is all handled by SqueezeCentre, and there's no limitation. The controller is merely an advanced interface to SC. The brains are still in the server. The controller can do more than the SB3 can, but the heavy lifting is done by the server as it should be - processing power and memory is cheap and expandable in the server but comparatively limited and fixed in the controller. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: "So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz?" Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Mark Lanctot wrote: > konut;255304 Wrote: >> Am I corect in assuming that a router isn't needed? That the >> controller >> can connect directly to my laptops WiFi? > > I believe that a router isn't needed in that the controller can > connect > directly to the -Squeezebox Receiver-, not a laptop, i.e. the SBR > functions as an ad-hoc AP. That's right. > dem;255309 Wrote: >> When it's in standby, is the LED off? I'm thinking of putting one >> in a >> bedroom. It sounds like it would be handy to use the controller >> while >> lying in bed. > > It sounds like you're asking about the controller, which ModelCitizen > answered, but Mike Valera was talking about the SBR. Not sure about > that one as I haven't seen an SBR, he'd have to answer. Obviously one > of those super-bright blue LEDs would be undesirable for use in a > bedroom! The LED goes to a dim white when powered on and connected but not playing. Unplugged, it goes to a bright black. -dean ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
konut;255304 Wrote: > Am I corect in assuming that a router isn't needed? That the controller > can connect directly to my laptops WiFi? I believe that a router isn't needed in that the controller can connect directly to the -Squeezebox Receiver-, not a laptop, i.e. the SBR functions as an ad-hoc AP. dem;255309 Wrote: > When it's in standby, is the LED off? I'm thinking of putting one in a > bedroom. It sounds like it would be handy to use the controller while > lying in bed. It sounds like you're asking about the controller, which ModelCitizen answered, but Mike Valera was talking about the SBR. Not sure about that one as I haven't seen an SBR, he'd have to answer. Obviously one of those super-bright blue LEDs would be undesirable for use in a bedroom! -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: "So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz?" Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] CES "People's Voice" award
Vote for your favorite new gizmos released at CES: http://ces.cnet.com/ces/peoples-voice/?tag=ces2008_rnav -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41942 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC article: "Copying CDs could be made legal"
bigfool1956;255924 Wrote: > "Owners would not be allowed to sell or give away their original discs > once they had made a copy." Has anyone come up with a good solution to what to do with all the CDs? I don't want them in my living room any more, and don't want to store 1000s of CDs either, they take up so much space! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Down to the wire between SB Duet vs. Sonos
bishopdonmiguel;255989 Wrote: > Interesting comment. Lately I've been thinking just the opposite. I am > long-time SD supporter who owns 6 units, but I am also desperate to > retire the 250W PC that does nothing except power SlimServer 24/7. I've > been secretly hoping SD would get it together by offering a low-power > "server" appliance (i.e. a flash based koolu) that would do nothing > except run their software and access my files from a low-power NAS. > Thus, SD could control the hardware and controller which should allow > for a stable user experience while I just bring my files to the party. > Their latest gadget appears to reinforce the fundamental belief that the > server should be provided and maintained by the user. Honestly, I'm > tired of being a server admin for this stuff. I've got better things > to do and I just want to listen to music without worrying about my > electric bill or why the server stops streaming for no apparent reason. There's a few options--one of the SD employees mentioned a FitPC next to his NAS (http://www.fit-pc.com/) which has enough horsepower to run SC 7.0, and at 5 watts really can't be beat on power consumption. SlimCD on a low power server of any kind, either with internal disks or mounting a NAS, would burn much less than a standard desktop PC. I recently upgraded from a Kuro Box HG to a custom server based on a JetWay Mini-ITX board, and 2x500GB hard drives. My whole network infrastructure (server, cable modem, router) pulls about 60 watts, and that's without optimizing the CPU which has lots of power management states. Some days I wish Slim Devices had a server appliance that would solve the problem that Sonos doesn't have to (but having not seen Sonos I don't know how easy or hard it is to get it configured, and after all it's basically running some sort of server somewhere, it's just hiding more.) It's certainly theoretically possible (a rebranded FitPC perhaps) but it isn't something that Slim or Logitech really have as a core business, so I see why they don't. Having said that, there's probably a 3rd party opportunity here. -- mrfantasy --Mike mrfantasy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1127 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
radish;256029 Wrote: > Sure, they're unlikely to incorporate Harmony functionality in the SBC, > but I don't see why they couldn't build a new Harmony with Jive built > in. That could be rather sweet. I know a couple Harmony devs are at least looking at Jive since they posted here. No idea whether they will use it or it is just playing, er, um, "research". -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Mark Lanctot;255966 Wrote: > Well, SoftSqueeze behaves like a hardware player, and the controller can > access all hardware players, so it should be possible. > > I haven't tried it with the beta version of the controller though. It works fine at least in the Windows SDK version of the Controller interface. -- mrfantasy --Mike mrfantasy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1127 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator for SlimServer
schatzy;256018 Wrote: > tamanaco, > > Are you using SC7 or SS 6.5.4? > > I have many albums with > 10 tracks and they seem to work fine. > > I have found that there are many differences in the way SC7 and SC work > with special characters including the "." if your track numbers have any > inconsistency especially if there happens to be a rouge space in there > somewhere then it seems to throw off a lot of other listings even from > other albums. > > I have a few files (30-40) that are giving me problems and i am doing > some very extensive testing before attempting to do write a bug report. > And i also see that some of the problems i have been having have been > fixed in the latest nightly any way. > > As Phil and Frank suggested maybe a good look at the tags and a rescan > will help you out. > > I have also noticed that with the latest nightly i need to actually > shut off my computer and start it back up to make some of the changes > work correctly. Don't understand that part but that is just how > computers can be sometimes. > > I will post more of my findings in the next few days. > > Schatzy I'm using SC7. Everything in my library displays as expected in the Web UI. I'll wait a little while longer before I change all my tags. The tag/folder/file naming format that I'm using is not "unusual", in fact, it's the default in many rippers. Since I backed up all of my libray recently to a separated drive (Over 570 CDs in Flac format) I do not want to make any changes to my tags unless they're absolutely necessary. Thanks... -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
On Jan 8, 2008, at 10:16 AM, tforce wrote: > Will the Duet be available in stores or only on the internet? Duet will be available in both retail and online stores around the world, though the specific retailers haven't been announced yet. The individual Receiver and Controller units will also be available worldwide, but in fewer stores. -dean ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox options to stream
moschous;256019 Wrote: > a. There is a software called slimserver which also includes some > predefined internet stations (shoutcasts, url to playlists, etc) that > Squeezebox is able to connect to. > Yes, but it also serves as a media server for local files amongst other things. > > b. There is the SqueezeNetwork where users are able to buy content, > listen famous radio stations, etc... > I don't believe there's any way to specifically buy content through SN, although you can use various pay services such as Rhapsody and Pandora. All of these options are also available with a local server (or will be when 7.0 is released). > > is there any other option that enable a user to set-up a server/mp3 > library (any other alternative software server) to deliver mp3's on > demand? > (e.g. can i force the squeezebox to connect directly to a url-playlist? > and not through the slimserver software?) > Slimserver is designed for this, it's best to use it. You could setup a stream using shoutcast and then connect to that via your slimserver but I don't see much point in that. > > can i use darwin streaming server playlists for mp3 streaming? > I don't know what darwin streaming server is, but if it uses regular .pls playlists slimserver should read them fine. > > if not, does the slimserver have tested on heavy traffic? how many > squeezeboxes are able to connect to concurrently? > How long is a piece of string? It depends on the server hardware, bandwidth, etc. Using a decent spec machine and wired ethernet I wouldn't expect any problems with up to say 10 players, probably more. > > I guess that the restrictions will come first from the bandwidth-side. > Probably. > > is there any way to setup load-balancing while delivering mp3's on big > number of squeezeboxes? > You can run multiple servers on the same network and have sets of players connecting to each - it's a manual setup though. How many is a "big number"? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Will the Duet be available in stores or only on the internet? -- tforce tforce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12666 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Mark Lanctot;256011 Wrote: > They've said pretty clearly that they do not plan to incorporate it. > The SBC is not a universal remote. It lacks the hard buttons and > doesn't have a touchscreen. > > Sure, they're unlikely to incorporate Harmony functionality in the SBC, but I don't see why they couldn't build a new Harmony with Jive built in. That could be rather sweet. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Skunk wrote: > Tradewind25;255864 Wrote: >> I have a Squeezebox 3. I wish to add one of the new Receivers in >> another room, and ideally synchronize the two. >> Can I achieve this with my current SB3 remote, or would I also need to >> purchase one of the new Controllers? >> (I think I read that the Receiver requires the Controller to configure >> network security?) > > The Receiver does require the Controller for setup: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=255195&postcount=80 At the moment, it does R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a 'no GUI' SoftSqueeze client?
Thanks both for your quick responses, I'll give them a look. The Squeezeslave project looks exactly what I'm after but seems to be dormant. Forgive me if I missed something. As usual Google works best when you know what to look for and the headless Softsqueeze looks interesting too. -- hellesangel hellesangel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41936 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Analogue VU
you may want to add you vote to: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1607 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1901 -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator for SlimServer
tamanaco, Are you using SC7 or SS 6.5.4? I have many albums with > 10 tracks and they seem to work fine. I have found that there are many differences in the way SC7 and SC work with special characters including the "." if your track numbers have any inconsistency especially if there happens to be a rouge space in there somewhere then it seems to throw off a lot of other listings even from other albums. I have a few files (30-40) that are giving me problems and i am doing some very extensive testing before attempting to do write a bug report. And i also see that some of the problems i have been having have been fixed in the latest nightly any way. As Phil and Frank suggested maybe a good look at the tags and a rescan will help you out. I have also noticed that with the latest nightly i need to actually shut off my computer and start it back up to make some of the changes work correctly. Don't understand that part but that is just how computers can be sometimes. I will post more of my findings in the next few days. Schatzy -- schatzy Kitchen - SB3 - Russound R235LS Amp - Russound SP-M8IM speakers in ceiling Main Stereo - SB3 - Nikko Beta 30 Preamp - Nikko Alpha 230 Amplifier - Genesis VI Speakers schatzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox options to stream
Hi list, I just bought a Squeezebox and it looks really nice! :-) i am very new on the Squeezebox Community and i would like to ask you some basic things. Which are the available options for delivering/streaming audio files (on-demand) on Squeezebox? It is obvious that there are two options: a. There is a software called slimserver which also includes some predefined internet stations (shoutcasts, url to playlists, etc) that Squeezebox is able to connect to. b. There is the SqueezeNetwork where users are able to buy content, listen famous radio stations, etc... Now, there are two questions: is there any other option that enable a user to set-up a server/mp3 library (any other alternative software server) to deliver mp3's on demand? (e.g. can i force the squeezebox to connect directly to a url-playlist? and not through the slimserver software?) can i use darwin streaming server playlists for mp3 streaming? if not, does the slimserver have tested on heavy traffic? how many squeezeboxes are able to connect to concurrently? I guess that the restrictions will come first from the bandwidth-side. is there any way to setup load-balancing while delivering mp3's on big number of squeezeboxes? Sorry for asking so many things! Thank you very much. -- moschous moschous's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a 'no GUI' SoftSqueeze client?
> This may be a long shot but if you don't ask you don't get... Search the SoftSqueeze doku an this forum for the headless option. And then there's squeezeslave, too. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a 'no GUI' SoftSqueeze client?
'squeezeslave' (https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=105169) -- mflint 'GoalRush , LiveDepartures and ArtistPlaylist plugins' (http://www.insignificant.org/wiki/index.php/Slim_Plugins) mflint's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41936 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Is there a 'no GUI' SoftSqueeze client?
This may be a long shot but if you don't ask you don't get... I have several old laptops lying around at home, mostly useless for real work but easily capable of decoding an internet radio stream, especially if this can be done without the overhead of the GUI. Is it possible to run a Softsqueeze client on a GUI free minimum system? Simply the idea was to have a tired old laptop in the kitchen, hidden somewhere, that boots (to SuSE Linux 10.0 if that matters) on LAN, auto-starts a SoftSqueeze-like client that does what it's told by Slimserver, and the computer shuts down when the server turns the client off. This way I have another room with its own radio, no extra clutter, and reusing an otherwise dead piece of hardware. The only bit that's missing from this is the SoftSqueeze client that can run without a GUI. Does such a thing exist, or could it be put together with a reasonable amount of work? I know a fair bit about Linux, computers in general, a bit about Perl but little about Slimserver and Softsqueeze. Any ideas? Crazy or possible? Thanks in advance. -- hellesangel hellesangel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41936 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
