Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
pippin wrote: AirPlay is limited to 48/16, not 44.1/16. What's more of a limitation is that you can only have a single stream from an iOS device, multiroom only really works from a Mac Airplay audio is 44.1/16 Apple Airport Express will only output 44.1/16. - fully bit transparent. Apple TV2 and TV3 will only output 48/16 - always re-samples audio only Airplay streams, only bit transparent with video soundtracks ( already at 48). Dave DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
In our holiday flat I use Spotify on iPad streamed to an Airport Express. By and large this works fine except for The Airport Express keeps disappearing from the network. It takes a power cycle for it to reappear. This is a known problem. If your iThing dings and peeps when emails etc. arrive, this will be broadcast over the top of your music. If you are using your iThing for other things while listening, expect to lose your music if the app/web page you are using takes over the sound card. K KMorgan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
DaveWr wrote: Airplay audio is 44.1/16 Apple Airport Express will only output 44.1/16. - fully bit transparent. Apple TV2 and TV3 will only output 48/16 - always re-samples audio only Airplay streams, only bit transparent with video soundtracks ( already at 48). Dave Thanks for the confirmation - I was going on my Apple TV 3rd gen and Airport Express both only offering 44.1 KHz in the OSX Audio Devices window. Note also that the Apple Remote app allows iTunes on a Mac to be controlled remotely, does wake up (at least my) sleeping Mac, but also brings the screen on (which a SB player does not). nonnoroger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
pippin wrote: What's more of a limitation is that you can only have a single stream from an iOS device, multiroom only really works from a Mac Strangely, I can only get multiple Airplay speakers offered when I use the Remote app to control iTunes. From the Mac itself in iTunes I only see the Apple TV offered for the multiple speakers option. The Airport Express is seen and can be selected as a single destination. In the Audio Devices window, only Airplay is offered as part of a Multi-Output device and not individual Airplay speakers. This is with OSX 10.8.2 on a 2009 Mac Mini. nonnoroger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player ninthsrw wrote: A: Hell yes HDMI out of a #2 Device (i.e. all digital SB, maybe also with IR blaster output) would be f-ing brilliant. That would be a huge step forward over the competition. [snip] I would prefer not get side tracked with what is and is not audiophile - instead let's focus on raw technical merits. I agree with your sentiments, so let us focus on technical merits. Digital out via HDMI may well be convenient, but I am worried about its merits. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the jitter levels of typical HDMI implementations are catastrophically high. Regular readers here will know that I am sceptical about the significance of jitter, but even I would baulk at the thought of using an interface which typically exhibits jitter at the thousands of pS level. Properly implemented asynchronous USB seems to be the future interface of choice (although I personally am happy with SPDIF). cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Radio for USD 80 ?
You did or did not buy a SB Radio for $80? How can others answer a subjective question not knowing your needs? Was it worth it to you? Did you need/desire one? Some will not buy a SB player (again or for the first time) as the future usability is in question. While others are still buying them at full asking price because they have a desire/need for it. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Radio for USD 80 ?
From the keyboard? yes. bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96728 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Customising the display on Players
On players with a one line display (Squeezeboxes, Transporter, Boom) you can customise the display e.g. TRACKNUM. TITLE - ARTIST - ALBUM (YEAR) But it seems that on players with a three line display (Radio, Controller, etc.) you get three fixed lines TITLE, ARTIST, ALBUM with no way to customise. And also on the WebUI and (for example) iPeng you also only get TITLE, ARTIST, ALBUM. Question: is it correct that the display on three line players and remote UIs is hardwired? Or is there some hidden way to customise it? Would it be possible to have the three lines displaying (say) TRACKNUM. TITLE, ARTIST, ALBUM (YEAR) ?? AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96731 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player cliveb wrote: I agree with your sentiments, so let us focus on technical merits. Digital out via HDMI may well be convenient, but I am worried about its merits. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the jitter levels of typical HDMI implementations are catastrophically high. Regular readers here will know that I am sceptical about the significance of jitter, but even I would baulk at the thought of using an interface which typically exhibits jitter at the thousands of pS level. Properly implemented asynchronous USB seems to be the future interface of choice (although I personally am happy with SPDIF). The facts about HDMI at AES. Arcam presenter: http://www.aes-media.org/sections/uk/Conf2011/Presentation_PDFs/14%20-%20john%20dawson%20-%20Audio%20Transport%20over%20HDMI%20-%20AES%202011.pdf Dave DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
I just realized that one thing that I'll miss in substituting iDevice for SB is the favorites. Is there an app for iDevice that aggregates favorites across different services in the same way that the favorite function of mysqueezebox (or LMS) does? Conceptually, I think it can be done through the OS's share function. If done properly, such favorites aggregator can be even more versatile than mysb.com's favorite, as it can collect tracks or album from non-streaming service such as Shazam (music search app). New Daddy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Customising the display on Players
The classic players have a dot matrix display, not a one line display, and can be made, through settings and/or plugins to display anything you want. The remote features a size button that switches between three different display modes (or layouts), but via plugins you can do anything. The web settings allows you to set your default track information and you can use variables to affect what is displayed and how. You can define various sets of information and then configure each player's output to be uniquely different from what is displayed in the web UI if you want. MelonMonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8466 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96731 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
Can you share any more details about any changes to Landscape view? It's been needing updating for a long time and it will be very welcome when you can do everything in this orientation. Back to what's been shown already... How about an option to remove the volume slider at the bottom? That will remove a totally useless UI element and make more room on the screen. Here are the ways that already exist to adjust volume: hardware volume buttons volume buttons on headphones volume buttons on speaker dock volume knob/buttons on amplifier Honestly, I can't see any point in time where using an on-screen volume slider would be more useful than hardware buttons that will be present in nearly every usage scenario. I'd also love to see the YEAR of the album displayed. Does this new version of iPeng preserve one's customized menu along the bottom? Even when iPeng doesn't connect to the server right away? MelonMonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8466 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
New Daddy wrote: I just realized that one thing that I'll miss in substituting iDevice for SB is the favorites. Is there an app for iDevice that aggregates favorites across different services in the same way that the favorite function of mysqueezebox (or LMS) does? Conceptually, I think it can be done through the OS's share function. If done properly, such favorites aggregator can be even more versatile than mysb.com's favorite, as it can collect tracks or album from non-streaming service such as Shazam (music search app). The simple answer is no. There is no iOS generic share function. The share popups that you see from the builtin apps are not configurable by third party code, you can't change the list of things that you can share to within those builtin popups. Communicating between apps on iOS is very restricted. All you can really do is use the URL schema functionality to publish/subscribe to urls. So for example app A could register to handle urls staring with myappa: and other apps could link to urls in that format which open app A. It is up to app A to define what is contained in the url and what it means. You could in theory use that approach to create a favourites aggregator. But only if all the apps whose favourites you wanted to aggregate built in support for your url schema for saving favourites and also had their own schemas for launching favourites. Which just isn't going to happen. A similar scheme would be more workable on Android, but again only with the co-operation of all the third party apps/services you wanted to support. andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
Can't agree that the graphical volume slider is redundant. The hardware buttons are nice for people who know about them, but it's the not the first place new users will look to control the volume. dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
dsdreamer wrote: Can't agree that the graphical volume slider is redundant. The hardware buttons are nice for people who know about them, but it's the not the first place new users will look to control the volume. +1 It also gives a visual indication of volume setting. kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
MelonMonkey wrote: Can you share any more details about any changes to Landscape view? It's been needing updating for a long time and it will be very welcome when you can do everything in this orientation. Oh... Landscape mode. How I regret to ever have introduced this... It's such a nuisance... But yes. Most things work in landscape mode now. You can bring down the player control, you can select players... NowPlaying screen is still a screen saver but there are gestures for next/previous skipping (swipe left/right) How about an option to remove the volume slider at the bottom? That will remove a totally useless UI element and make more room on the screen. I actually thought about it for iPhone 4. It's still not enough room for the whole title, though (only half of what's required). Also, you are very wrong about it being useless: hardware volume buttons Except for iPeng as a player, these can go away any moment! It's a feature completely forbidden by Apple. It works because I bind it to the volume of the device itself which is not actually redefining the functionality but Apple might still change their mind on it at any time! So better not to talk about it too much, especially not advertise it... That aside: it's not nearly exact enough. It only changes volume in steps of +/- 5 (if used with iPeng Playback it's even +/- 10 because that's what iOS does). At low volumes that's definitely not fine enough, at least with good headphones, here I frequently even use the 1 volume level. The same is true for a lot of docks or external amps connected to the Squeezeboxes that have a non-linear scale and need very fine volume tuning. Actually I found that for some reason most people don't use the volume buttons at all. volume buttons on headphones Not on all headphones, same problem volume buttons on speaker dock volume knob/buttons on amplifier Sorry, iPeng is a REMOTE CONTROL. Walking up to a device to change the volume is a most definite no-go. I'd also love to see the YEAR of the album displayed. Hm. Might think about that one. Did anybody ever file a ticket for this? It was asked for for the album display (the content of an album) and it's showing there now. Does this new version of iPeng preserve one's customized menu along the bottom? Even when iPeng doesn't connect to the server right away? It always did. It just changes while you are not connected (it can't show empty tabs) and changes back to what you configured when you reconnect to the server unless you make manual changes in which case iPeng can't know you didn't mean it. I always use iPeng with 3 or 4 different servers and it always comes back to my manually configured setup that's only available on my main server when I connect, this actually works very well. I know that because I have a menu on there (Audiobooks) that's a CustomBrowse menu and only available on that server. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
Do you store different configurations of iPeng's icon row depending on the server one is connected to? If not, then the user's choice should be reflected as soon as the app loads - it looks strange having the icons suddenly change. Also, when we dismiss the tips/help one time, will they now stop coming back? With the previous/current releases I can't remember how many different times I have to cancel/dismiss the tips/help. Here's my situation for the volume control: When I'm using iPeng as a player, I never use the slider for volume. Either the iPhone is locked and one doesn't have access to the screen anyway, so the hardware buttons are used. If I wake the display, I continue to use the hardware buttons because that's what I was already using. If the phone is docked, then the docks I use already have more easily reached volume controls that work whether the screen is on or off - or the iPhone is being remotely controlled with the dock's remote or another instance of iPeng. If the phone is being used as a remote it means I'm primarily controlling my hifi system and I keep Squeezebox output fixed at 100% - why would I use the volume control on a source component when that's the job of the pre-amp? The volume is controlled only via the pre-amp and/or a universal controller. I suggested it as an OPTION so if someone wants to continue to use the on-screen slider they can feel free to do so. I do realize that Apple's own music app also features an on-screen volume slider, but that App is so poorly designed I don't know where to start. For regular music playback I tend to use CarTunes already, which while not perfect, is a lot better than the stock player app. What bugs me the most about the standard playback app/infrastructure is the complete lack of a now-playing playlist which can be modified on the fly. It's full albums or nothing right now. Which I believe is one of the reasons you're seeing some people asking for playback of local music. You really should consider taking your UI and refining it into another app for local playback. It will be quite a bit of additional work, but I think there's a good market for alternative music players. Most of the third-party ones are very (very) bad. For someone else, there is no new user that doesn't know about the hardware volume buttons on the phone. That's frankly a little preposterous, since the hardware buttons are the primary way, the de-facto way, to adjust volume on the iPhone. MelonMonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8466 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
I like the ability to change the volume with the slider when I'm using the SB radio. The touch is and should be on fixed volume if using the digital output. saeyedoc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
MelonMonkey wrote: Do you store different configurations of iPeng's icon row depending on the server one is connected to? If not, then the user's choice should be reflected as soon as the app loads - it looks strange having the icons suddenly change. It does so as soon as it can but not all menus are available on all servers so iPeng can't put them there until the menu gets available. No albums, artists, whatever on MySqueezebox.com, Spotify et al. are even per-player menus. As soon as the menu gets available, it gets moved in place. Also, when we dismiss the tips/help one time, will they now stop coming back? With the previous/current releases I can't remember how many different times I have to cancel/dismiss the tips/help. Once per tip. Which version are you using? Are you maybe using a jailbreak that prevents iPeng from storing any settings in it's user defaults? That would also explain why you can't keep the button bar as it's supposed to be. iPeng never brings up the popup automatically again after you've seen it once, unless there is a major release change (2.0 will bring them back the first time since 1.2, I believe). Here's my situation for the volume control: snip Yes, I understand that. However, it's not everybody's situation I suggested it as an OPTION so if someone wants to continue to use the on-screen slider they can feel free to do so. I understand. But first: you know how I think about options: iPeng does already have too many of them (I'm happy to have been able to remove one in iPeng 2.0) And then: what do I put there when the slider is gone? It's either something that's not necessary or something that needs an alternative place when the slider IS present. I seriously considered to remove the slider (actually the whole lower bar) for iPeng 2.0 on 3,5 devices but found it too cumbersome to bring it back and it needed to be the full bar to make any sense. The slider alone is only big enough for a single row of text. For someone else, there is no new user that doesn't know about the hardware volume buttons on the phone. That's frankly a little preposterous, since the hardware buttons are the primary way, the de-facto way, to adjust volume on the iPhone. Yes, but as I said: most iPeng users are not aware of that feature and don't use it and I can't advertise it. Plus, lack of a volume bar was the #1 complaint when Spotify's iPad App came out :) pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
I control the volume on almost all my amps with IR blaster, through the SB, and iPeng. I need both the slider (for a Boom) and the software buttons (for IR Blaster). When players are synchronized I prefer to adjust volumes separately for each source, and this means using the individual software buttons or sliders for each player. I seldom use the hardware buttons on my iphone, about never on the ipad. I guess that 1 for, 1 against, then. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
You know that you can turn the group control off, don't you? That's one of these settings. Actually one I considered to remove. You are the first one in a while to tell me he's using separate control. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
You considered to remove the option to control each player's volume seperately (when synched)? Please don't! That's the only way I use it... But maybe you can put some numbers in the volume setting of the alarm-clock, to see how loud it will be... SushiDS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19266 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
Well, you'd still have the individual control sliders for each player. I'm only talking about having the main one only act on a single player. But don't worry, I'm not removing the option. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
pippin wrote: There is: btw, one other aspect: the buttons are NOT a drop-in replacement for the volume bar, especially not if you use synced players or if you use iPeng's playback. If you use iPeng's playback, the buttons will no longer control other players (because they control iPeng's own player and I can't change that). And for groups the same is true for groups where iPeng's player is one of the players in a group, then the buttons will no longer act on the whole group but only on the iThingy you are running iPeng on. And this reason alone is why I prefer to leave the slider as a part of ipeng. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
pippin wrote: You know that you can turn the group control off, don't you? That's one of these settings. Actually one I considered to remove. You are the first one in a while to tell me he's using separate control. No I don't know of that option (you can remove it!) I open the players pop-up and hit the discrete volume buttons for the player I want (I only had 2 players with digital volume control, with whit I can use the slider: 1 Boom, 1SB3) I think it's quite accessible, either on iPad or iPhone. I adjust volumes separately because one volume press up or down does not have the same effect on each amp (differences in amps, in IR blaster settings), and in general I want to keep the source in the room I am in front, and have the other players in the other rooms in the background. You can't get that with the group slider. Also, when an IR blaster player is grouped with a digital attenuation player, results are rarely what I want: on my amps w/ IR Blaster I didn't get repeat presses to work, so the group will quickly unbalance. Usually with the IR-blaster controlled amp reduced to a very low volume, and the digital attenuation player at expected volume. And sometimes the other way around (much worse!) epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Extremely long startup and rescan times
Bradley wrote: I was experiencing this problem and was looking for anyone else experiencing the same thing. Your fix works perfectly! Thanks for posting it! *B Thanks Bradley for pointing me to this thread. I had and posted the same issue in thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96659-LMS-problems-on-daily-rescan-with-TrackStat The fix worked for me too! Thanks Thomas th80's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22097 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
+1 It also gives a visual indication of volume setting. As well as finer control over volume. I do use the visual slider in the Music app on my iPhone. SBB ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
On the preview the scrolling in the artists list is showing numbers and not letters like it should Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2 jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
I see the same. That is numbers instead of the alphabet in scrolling on a samsung SII 9100 Android 4.04 sbp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
jimbobvfr400 wrote: On the preview the scrolling in the artists list is showing numbers and not letters like it should Indeed! Expect to see that fixed on the next update later today. Thanks! db122's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player DaveWr wrote: The facts about HDMI at AES. Arcam presenter: http://www.aes-media.org/sections/uk/Conf2011/Presentation_PDFs/14%20-%20john%20dawson%20-%20Audio%20Transport%20over%20HDMI%20-%20AES%202011.pdf As I read it, this presentation seems to confirm that audio over HDMI routinely has very high levels of jitter. The notable exception appears to be the Arcam device - no surprise there, given this presentation is from Arcam. Bottom line as I read things: it is possible to implement an audio interface over HDMI well, but very few manufacturers do. Therefore developing a source component with audio out on HDMI is inviting it to be partnered with devices that are likely to make a hash of things. If someone were to build a new generation of Squeezebox type players (which is where this thread started), we'd better pray that HDMI isn't the ONLY digital output it offers. cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
@epoch You should give the group volume slider a try. It's not a fixed volume changer but changes each players volume based on its current volume level. It works surprisingly well. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player cliveb wrote: I agree with your sentiments, so let us focus on technical merits. Digital out via HDMI may well be convenient, but I am worried about its merits. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the jitter levels of typical HDMI implementations are catastrophically high. Regular readers here will know that I am sceptical about the significance of jitter, but even I would baulk at the thought of using an interface which typically exhibits jitter at the thousands of pS level. Properly implemented asynchronous USB seems to be the future interface of choice (although I personally am happy with SPDIF). I may be spoilt by the meridian HD621 hdmi audio processor! That deals with most of this . And it is a fixable problem , a good hdmi implementation would deal with it . Compare the situation with USB interface a surprisingly large amount of them or not very good,but there is a large portion of well implemented solutions ,this was not the case a couple of years ago . The fact that audiophiles seems to praise *every* USB input is another issue ? I suppose well implement hdmi will be more common in the future . Beside if you heard a good discrete multichannel recording the jitter discussion would fade :) that is a big difference in my world. And due to varius paranoia at the content providers hdmi is the only standard consumer interface that offers discrete multichannel , so that is what we have like it or not . I could use one of my leftover MHR inputs for 3*spdiff in my processor but that is hardly standard ? Not many processor or ht reciever has such inputs . OT if I want to listen to my DVDA discs on my system I use a MHR interface ( 3*spdiff with proprietary meridian protocol ) And not hdmi from my DVDA player to my processor, this interface was invented before the hdmi standard offered this. Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player Mnyb wrote: I may be spoilt by the meridian HD621 hdmi audio processor! That deals with most of this . And it is a fixable problem , a good hdmi implementation would deal with it . ... Brilliant. So what exactly would a good hdmi implementation look like? Anyone know of any particular chip sets that are ideally suited? And since we are on the topic of HDMI - what about a WiDi / Miracast implementation? So an ideal all digital device - transcoding only, no decoding - would have asynchronous usb, toslink, coax for digital only, and a good implementation of HDMI, and an IR blaster - all for less than $500... sound maybe doable? I would buy such a thing. ninthsrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
I love volume control the way you have it. I hope you don't remove the slider. I've often wondered why SB Touch doesn't have an option to show the year of the album on the default Now Playing screen. I would love to see it on iPeng. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
Now, since the landscape question came up, here's the answer: it looks just like in portrait. [image: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/285616_164677477003399_1954513657_n.jpg] pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player There is no category for votes where we currently feel we have what we need but if something dies etc. what would ones choice be. If that were the case yes I would buy another Squeezebox probably at the less than $500 price. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Music system for a disabled person?
I have an uncle with cerebral palsy. When he was young, the doctors told him he wouldn't live to 40. He celebrated his 80th birthday a few years ago. His mind is still sharp, and he loves music. Today I was talking to my aunt and uncle about how much he loves music. They say he has stacks of CDs but the attendants at his nursing home won't put them on for him. He has very limited mobility and his speaking is not clear. One of my cousins was wanting to get him something like an iPad but I don't think that will work for him because his mobility is so erratic. There's no way he could push the home button on an iPad and even if his voice was clear enough to use voice control you still have to be able to push the button. Just to give you an idea of his limitations... he can't operate the remote control for the TV anymore. He may be able to use something with voice control if the commands were simple and it didn't require a precise gesture to activate. I thought I would ask you people if you had any ideas about a music system that might work for him. I'd be thrilled to rip his CD collection and set something up for him but I don't know what would work and be simple enough for him to control. I also don't think a networked system would work because he's in a nursing home. Any ideas or leads? (Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. Please pardon any typos!) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music system for a disabled person?
I have virtually no experience with this, but I wonder if the XBox 360 and Kinect combination might be made to work for him. I don't own one but I know it has both voice and gesture control support. Might be too fussy/fiddly, and I don't even know if there's a good music browsing interface but I assume there must be. Whatever the case, that's tough. Kudos to you for trying to give him some independence. azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music system for a disabled person?
Sounds like fine motor skills are limited? A switch enabled mp3 player is probably what you need. There are adapter(s) that interface with (older) iPods or dedicated switch players. If a computer is the desired option then you could pair it with a darci switch box + switches + some morse code will give him basic access. The darci emulates a keyboard so if you teach him some morse he could play, pause skip, open, close etc any program that supports keyboard shortcuts. I think the Apple music application in iOS has switch access but I don't know for sure. Ipeng supports Voice over, usually it then can also be accessed via switch. My advice is to talk to an occupational therapist who works with this type of assistive tech- it will be worth it johnas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone I've been looking around what I can buy in the way of audio streamers for under $1000. It's pretty hard to find anything that is competitive with the product that Logitech killed. You would think the invisible hand of the market would come to the rescue, but results so far are not positive. Perhaps there really isn't a big enough market for this stuff, but I see increasing interest and awareness from so many on-line tech sites and forums, which makes me think more people know and care about this stuff than ever before. dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
