[slim] SB replacement hardware that works with SB Server software?
Hi - Excepting Vortex box, can any one recommend a hardware player (same in function to a SB Classic or Touch) that will work with the Squeezebox Server software? Thanks! ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] IR Blaster and SB Touch
this thread is double posted - sorry. this is the active thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93666 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] IR Blaster and SB Touch
Hi - Looking to find out if anyone has gotten IR Blaster to work with the SB Touch. I know this has been kicking around for a few years now and in December 2011 it was addressed and it should work, but I have not found a post indicating that a user actually got it to go. So I'd love to hear if anyone is using IR Blaster with the SB Touch and what their experience was. Here is mine to date: I did some checking prior to buying the Touch and it is a supported a player according to the IR Blaster Wiki with limitations (no RAW formats, no IR Learning, no Repeater). So I followed the wiki instructions at http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/IRBlaster . I used Winlirc to create a native conf file (not RAW ) for my remote/amp/receiver. I tested that file first with the SB3 and it works great. So I bought the Touch and was ready to rollbut no luck. It doesn't work. I have the volume in LMS set to 100%. I am on LMS Server: 7.7.1 r33751 and Touch firmware 7.7.1 r9558 I am wondering if there is some setting on the Touch I am missing or if there is something else I need to do. If I need to do the Remote Login to the Touch to put a file in there or anything, I can do it if given some direction. I can share my conf file for the amp/receiver. It is not in RAW format. I love IR Blaster and i held back on getting a Touch until it supported this feature. Really want to get it to work. any help would be appreciated! thanks. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
more on the d-link boxee - they might have done it in software. it appears to run on some sort of linux and apparently you can get ssh access with some effort. they also don't call it AirPlay - they call it "iOS Streaming." that may say something. it also in not an expensive device - less than the Touch ($199). Works great for video. i tried the shairport install and got lost. i am no pro at linux but get around OK and those instructions were real basic and the author must assume the reader knows all sorts of things that many would not know. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
> > It's not up to Logitech. > Google Apple's terms&conditions for AirPlay and you know why it won't > happen. i am not a lawyer so i'll skip wading through terms&conditions, but it seems odd that so many other hardware devices canis Logitech or the SB Touch unique is some regard? I used the example of D-Link Boxee - they enabled it via a firmware update. The Boxee (video streaming player) is not so functionally different from an SB (audio streaming player). if the terms are so restrictive, why can a company like D-Link/Boxee do it and not Logitech? Or the growing list of other hardware AV companies? ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
Great discussion...I still wonder why the Squeezebox Touch could not also be an Airplay device - so you could select it as a receiver and use Airplay to stream to the SB. This would be the best of both worlds: a superior networked 'open' audio solution (Squeezebox) and the convenience of Airplay. . BTW, I noticed that the D-Link Boxee is doing this now - via a recent firmware update. I believe there software is also open. Curiously, they don't call it Airplay but "Enable Streaming from iOS device." One other point seems to be missing in the broader discussion - the SB products are perfect for multi-room setups: you can have one (or more) music libraries and stream virtually any music source to individual players - either synched or individual (different) streams You can then also control all rooms via one pretty good web-interface on any networked computer, or via an App (iPeng, etc.). There is also pretty much no limitation on the type of source (local music of most formats, radio, numerous services) and all can be played back from one interface. The Apple stuff does not do this well - the best way I can think of to achieve multi-room/multiple streams with Apple is to have multiple Apple TVs and then use Apple Remote App for local music (iTunes libraries) and then Airplay for other Apps. Conceptually this is not much different from multiple networked SBs, except that it can also do Airplay. And it has downsides compared to an SB solution: you can't sync multiple Apple TVs, limitations on music formats for local music, no wired streaming of services like Pandora etc (only Airplay), and inferior management (you have to switch back and forth with the Apple Remote app to control different apple TVs). In any case, I think Airplay on the SB would be a great feature and make good business sense. Logitech should figure out a way to do it! ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
what would be a great SB innovation is if the SB Touch could be a Airplay receiver (like an Apple TV, Denon Receiver or the growing list of devices that can do it) As an earlier post pointed out, it may be that Apple won't allow it on an open platform, but I thought the SB Touch firmware was proprietary, no? I think Airplay's appeal is the growing number of Apps that support it (examples: Pandora, Spotify, etc) and the fact that it will playback local content from any iOS device. A friend comes over, they can play there stuff directly from there phone/iPad, etc (One of the ironies of Airplay is that it allows the Apple TV to playback streaming services that it is otherwise closed to - like Pandora and Spotify,. It makes no sense to me) on airplay quality - it's not so great. For example if you want to use Pandora with Apple TV (or other Airplay receiver) from a iOS device it has to get the content from the Internet over WiFi and then send it back out over Wifi to the Airplay Receiver (and maybe another Wifif hop if the Apple TV/Airplay Receiver is not hard wired). In my test/use with only lossy formats there are dropouts - not so many to make it unusable but enough for it to be not unexpected. nevertheless, given Airplay's momentum, I think the SB Touch doubling as an Airplay receiver has enormous appeal and would be a great selling point for it. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
Please, please, please replace the Touch, get a good USB dac and enjoy MediaMonkey. You should be happier. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:35 AM, nicolas75 < nicolas75.53as5z1321450...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> wrote: > > Gingernut63;670431 Wrote: > > @nicolas75, aubuti > > > > > > > > This is not totally correct. If you have LMS on your PC then you don't > > have to have a LMS music database, hence no scanning. An empty folder > > is all that is required for the music folder address. MediaMonkey can > > manage your music database and it tells Squeezebox what to play. LMS is > > still required and anyway it has useful plugins that MediaMonkey > > doesn't. LMS on a Linux NAS (e.g. ReadyNAS DUO) does require a managed > > music database due to file format issues between the windows OS and > > Linux. > > > > Try MediaMonkey(basic)/MonkeySqueeze for yourself and see the > > advantages of playing your music collection on Squeezebox using these > > freeware programs. The official release is here: > > http://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/browse/item/monkeysqueeze/ > > > > Also try the MonkeySqueeze Development site for the latest beta which > > has playlist sync: > > http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=59907 > > Thanks. > > The problem is that from MediaMonkey forums and your messages, there > are annoying delays (I use mainly flac files ...) with this plugin. > I must say I don't feel like being a beta tester like with LMS. > If I have to install LMS, start it with an empty database, and so on, I > guess it will be much easier to run directly MediaMonkey with a > smartphone application, and replace the Touch by a good USB dac ... > With a small silent and nice Nettop like Asrock ones, it may be the > perfect solution. > I am more inclined to check how easily MediaMonkey can be controlled > with a smartphone, than mixing Squeezeboxes, LMS and MediaMonkey. > > At this point It seems to me that good solution are > - LMS get decent files selection and library management, and I can > stick it. > - LMS doesn't and I have to completely get rid of LMS > > If I have to get rid LMS > - Squeezeboxes can be used without LMS at all (I can accept TinySBS if > it is improved, there are simple bugzilla bugs to fix for that) and I > keep the Touch without LMS > - If not possible, I replace the Touch by a good USB dac and forget > about Squeezeboxes. > > > The mere point here is that Logitech is a hardware company, not a > software company. > They make money with squeezeboxes, not with LMS (which is free). > A smart manager should understand that a squeezebox Touch should be > seen as a network soundcard from any PC music software, or as a > standalone device running an optimized TinySBS. > > If people want to mess with LMS and its weird scanning, it is there, > they can use it, but it should be only another not mandatory option. > > > -- > nicolas75 > > nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
My point was that if setup properly it does not require support. We install and then have almost no follow up support calls or issues with our overwhelming non-tech customers. I would agree that there is not good documentation for trouble-free installation and that initial installation (done right) could be a problem for non-tech customers (think of generic wi-fi problems alone, which is a prerequisite for a useable system, and which a lot of non-tech people really struggle with getting right, especially in larger spaces) . But i can't emphasize enough that IF setup properly it does not require on-going support and customers get enormous benefits and enjoyment from the system WITHOUT having to endlessly tinker with it. Our customers don't tinker with it. They just use it. Sonos is no treat on the initial setup, either, especially when setting it up with their wireless system in a large space (it can be way worse since you can't really tweak their proprietary wireless network, where you can with standard Wi-Fi). . Better installation documentation would help as would some simple 'best practices' (like: problems increase if the squeezebox server computer and SBs are connected wirelessly, so please use wired Ethernet whenever possible, or another: the system runs smoother and encounters less problems if squeezecenter is installed on a dedicated computer, if not possible, install it on an 'always on' computer; do not install squeezecenter on a laptop. Or another: please try to ensure your Wi-Fi network is properly setup and functioning prior to installation). Etc, Etc On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:18 AM, nicolas75 < nicolas75.536wjb1321269...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> wrote: > > shaboyi;669664 Wrote: > > I often see posts stating that the SB is not for the 'non-tech' crowd > > > Yes ... > > shaboyi;669664 Wrote: > > > > and/or you can't sell and instal them for non-tech consumers. > > > No, you just DO need an computer guy to install and support it. > (Hifi dealers are not supposed to be computer guys) > > > shaboyi;669664 Wrote: > > Well, I do > > install them for non-tech customers and they have virtually no problems > > and > > love the devices. It's true they get a professional installation with > > a > > dedicated server > > > That's the condition, You got it ! > > > shaboyi;669664 Wrote: > > > > but the idea that it cannot be done is simply false. > > > I don't remember reading it cannot be done > > shaboyi;669664 Wrote: > > It > > works flawlessly for most of our customers and problems are far and > > few > > between (with the notable, recent exception of the 7.6 debacle - yeah > > that > > hurt and cost us). Nor is it all that complicated for our installers > > if a > > few rules are adhered to: a very solid whole home wi-fi network, > > hard > > wired server, hard-wired SBs, a dedicated server (with musicip), > > pre-planning for mysqueezebox.com and streaming apps, and, at the end, > > a > > leisurely walk-thru/tutorial with the customer. Done this way, > > Sonos, > > which we also install, does not compare in terms of reliability, > > quality or > > features. We'll install it for customers who demand it, but steer the > > rest > > away. > > > > It's certainly true that we sell to an upscale niche market who have > > the > > money to spend for the setup, server and the service we provide, but > > done > > right you can't beat it for a full featured digital audio solution. > > > > > > So you confirm that in its current state, this product cannot be > suitable for wide audience, without dedicated computer aware staff to > install and support the system. > With the price it costs, which may exceed the devices price, does it ? > > Otherwise they have to stick to very basic use (streaming internet > radios for example), which is most customers do. > > > -- > nicolas75 > > nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
I often see posts stating that the SB is not for the 'non-tech' crowd and/or you can't sell and instal them for non-tech consumers. Well, I do install them for non-tech customers and they have virtually no problems and love the devices. It's true they get a professional installation with a dedicated server, but the idea that it cannot be done is simply false. It works flawlessly for most of our customers and problems are far and few between (with the notable, recent exception of the 7.6 debacle - yeah that hurt and cost us). Nor is it all that complicated for our installers if a few rules are adhered to: a very solid whole home wi-fi network, hard wired server, hard-wired SBs, a dedicated server (with musicip), pre-planning for mysqueezebox.com and streaming apps, and, at the end, a leisurely walk-thru/tutorial with the customer. Done this way, Sonos, which we also install, does not compare in terms of reliability, quality or features. We'll install it for customers who demand it, but steer the rest away. It's certainly true that we sell to an upscale niche market who have the money to spend for the setup, server and the service we provide, but done right you can't beat it for a full featured digital audio solution. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM, nicolas75 < nicolas75.531ngn1321024...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> wrote: > > toby10;669229 Wrote: > > If you mean LMS that is completely unrelated to the failure of the > > Revue. Revue has been out for over a year, only now is LMS a part of > > the defunct Revue. > > > > As far as I understood, the revue disaster was a software disaster, > before an "available content" disaster (even if available content is a > problem). > The CEO confirmed the software was not what customers expected. > > This was true for the original revue software (not LMS). > > The new LMS may be better, but it wouldn't have saved the revue > anyway. > SBS, LMS, is not reliable enough for the target audience. > Most people having tried to make a living selling Squeeboxes (not tech > fans always saying that most problems are customers fault) will > probably confirm. > This is good for geeks or tech fans, not for others. > > > -- > nicolas75 > > nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 7.6.1, Duet Controller and IR Blaster problem
i've used ir blaster for some time and have update SB Server to 7.6.1 RC3. I use the wifi controller to control a duet reciever and 2 SB Classics. both SB Classics are setup with IR Blaster. No problem with IR Blaster from the Web Interface or the SB Classic regular remote. But the Duet Controller, while doing everything else it usually does, is not working to controll volumevia IR Blaster.Power On/Off works. Mystifying! Any help would be appreciated ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBS 7.6 and Fishbone Interface
I did see that - but it does not answer #2 or #3. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 3:36 AM, andynormancx < andynormancx.4y3a9b1312702...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> wrote: > > If you had searched for "fishbone" before posting you would have found > this thread: > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89041&highlight=fishbone > > > -- > andynormancx > > Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? > I SAID ALL OF THEM ! > > andynormancx's Profile: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89412 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SBS 7.6 and Fishbone Interface
Hi - I see that Fishbone is no longer in the list of available interfaces in 7.6 I found a post and have the Fishbone.zip files. I have a couple of questions that I am hoping someone can answer before I install it: 1. Is Fishbone no longer supported at all? Is there a reason? 2. Will installing it on 7.6 cause issues with the functioning of SB Server? I put it on a Windows box and seems OK so far. 3. For Linux Fedora, where would I put the Fishbone files? on windows, i put it in the html folder and that was all i needed to do. I can't figure out where I would put them on Fedora (I have a Vortexbox). It goes without saying that it is my favorite skin and I know where to find all my settings it seems it would be a real shame if it were to go away. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic/IR Out/Multi-zone Audio Question
Thanks for that. I looked at the iRule and the Global Cachelooks very interesting. Do you use the iRule Builder? I wonder if you can get iRule to at least launch iPeng? another quesiton - was it easy to get the iTach to talk to iRule? Do you use iRule for your TV/Home theatre? thanks! On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Mnyb < mnyb.4vrvhb1308811...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> wrote: > > You can use 3 different apps on iPad for cotrolling squeezeboxes. > > I use SqueezePad and iPeng ( there is the free oficial app wich i have > not tried ). > > if can accept to use another app and product for amp controll etc I > would recomend iRule app combined with iTach products i have replaced > all remote controlls for my complete home theater with this app. > ITach makes small networked "things" that have ir rs232 or relay > outputs cool > > For controlling volume I have to switch app on my iPad, but thats > because i prefer the iPad app for controlling my Touch, I have emulated > the squeezebox ir remote in iRule , but the Touchs display is not really > visible on distance so feedback is poor. > > For my kitchen I use powered fostex speakers and an SB3 there i think > the squeezebox own volume controll good enough and there is no amp to > controll , so iPad apps alone is perfect here. > > My solution may not satify your spec completely, but I wanted to share > what could be done with an iPad > > > -- > Mnyb > > > Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x > MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 > sub. > Bedroom/Office: Boom > Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 > Misc use: Radio (with battery) > iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad > > Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88441 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox Classic/IR Out/Multi-zone Audio Question
I am retrofitting an existing multi-zone audio system. I want to get rid of the keypads and each room and go to a Squeezebox based system. It's a 6 zone system and my current idea is to: Use 6 Squeezebox Classics employing the IR out feature (IR Blaster Plugin). This would allow per zone control of the Multizone Audio Controller (Amp's) volume, on/off, etc. via the Squeezebox Controller or one of the iPad/iTouch apps. EVERYTHING could be controlled via a WiFi controller - no need for keypads or other remote to control the multizone audio controller. This seems like a good solution, except: What if the Classics go away and are not longer available? They do break. I'd prefer to use a Squeezebox Receiver, but it does not have the IR out feature. Apparently the Touch does not have it either. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I might achieve the same objective without being dependent on the Classic? Again the objective is to have the Amp/Reviver and Squeezebox Server controlled on a per zone basis exclusively from the Wi-Fi controller or iPad App. Any suggestions would be really appreciated. Thanks. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Playlists not showing in ui after moving to new server
I have moved squeezebox server to a new machine and moved my m3u playlists. the scan shows they have been scanned (reports x of x) but they don't show up in any interface. has anyone seen this behavior and have a solution?. 7.5.1 on whs. the playlist song paths are the same as the old machine. thanks ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slim Devices Software archive??
great thanks On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:38 AM, dsdreamer < dsdreamer.4k74sn1289367...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> wrote: > > shaboyi;588364 Wrote: > > Does anyone know if the slim devices software archive is accessible > > somewhere? it used to be at http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads but > > that > > site appears gone. > > > > I am looking for Slimserver 6.2.1 and 5.x versions. > > > > thanks. > > http://downloads.slimdevices.com/ > > All your old favorites are there! > > > -- > dsdreamer > > -- > "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." > > dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83189 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slim Devices Software archive??
Does anyone know if the slim devices software archive is accessible somewhere? it used to be at http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads but that site appears gone. I am looking for Slimserver 6.2.1 and 5.x versions. thanks. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Biography and Album Review: Problems connecting to All Music
Michael, 2.9.3 did it,. thanks! On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Michael Herger wrote: > > In the last weeks album review and biography stopped working. so I > upgraded them to 2.9.2 and still no luck. > > They changed their servers again... Please give 2.9.3 another try. Thanks! > > -- > > Michael > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Biography and Album Review: Problems connecting to All Music
In the last weeks album review and biography stopped working. so I upgraded them to 2.9.2 and still no luck. For Album Review I get the album listed and the line "Information provided by AMG all music" but no review. In other words, there is no error, just no review. for biography, I get "Information could not be collected. There might be a network problem. Please try again!" This happens on the Web UI and iPeng, the two interfaces I use. Has anyone else seen this and/or have any suggestions? thanks ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox Server 7.5 - CLI Port 9090 problems
Hi - I use an application that talks to Squeezebox Server (7.5) on the CLI port 9090. the machine is a Windows Home Server. The squeezebox server reports that port 9090 is 'OK' and the CLI plugin is installed. However, i cannot communicate with it. As a test I used telnet on the machine hosting squeezebox server and it does not work either. there are no firewalls. Any suggestions? thanks! ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happened to Music Services (Pandora, etc.) in Fishbone Interface
OK. Yes it was in 7.4.1. I guess i had gotten out of the habit of doing nightlies as it has not been necessary over the last few releases! On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Michael Herger wrote: > > Did you already add them as apps from App Gallery? > > ...and then make sure you're running 7.4.1 - 7.4.0 was missing the apps in > most skins but Default. > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] What happened to Music Services (Pandora, etc.) in Fishbone Interface
I upgraded to 7.4 and the web interface using Fishbone (and others?) is missing all music services. Am i missing something or can you no longer select stations in Pandora from the web interface? it's odd. maybe it is hiding somewhere? i would hope functionality is not being taken away from the web interface - it's the main way i use my squeezeboxes. thanks! ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Biogrpahy and Album Review Display on Duet Controller?
Hi - i was just wondering if getting Bio and Album Review ont eh SC is improved or working? Are there any instructions? Thanks! On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:43 PM, pc4ever1 < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ModelCitizen;296380 Wrote: > > However if I wait for a while the Album Review page loads. > > > > 7.0.1 > > > > MC > > I'm just curious, how long did you have to wait for the AlbumReview > plugin to work? I have waited up to 5 minutes, and there wasn't any > activity. However, when using the Biography plugin everything is > working. > > AlbumReview shows up on the controller's menu. I have tripled checked > the files, their locations and deleted the plugin-data.yaml file many > times. Still no luck. I'm using SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 on Windows XP and > installed the Albumeview and Biography plugin's manually on the > controller using Pscp. After recognising that this didn't work I > deleted these files and then re-installed using WinSCP. AlbumReview > still didn't work, but Biography does. > > Any suggestions to get the AlbumReview plugin to work on the controller > will be appreciated. > TIA > > > -- > pc4ever1 > > pc4ever1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3836 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46467 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Biogrpahy and Album Review Display on Duet Controller?
Bjorn, thanks for the instructions and files. I got the directory and its files (AlbumReviewApplet.lua, AlbumReviewMeta.lua and strings.txt) copied and they show up when i use putty to navigate to the directory ( /usr/share/jive/applets/AlbumrRview) and list the files using ls. Also both AlbumReview and Biogrpahy show up under Extras. They just don't work. When I click on AlbumReview nothing happens; with Biogrpahy it goes to a blank screen. I checked to make sure there was content available via the SC web interface for the currently playing song for both. I also checked to make sure that i was connecting to other services from the controller (like the RSS feeds). One note for the pscp command under windows: you must specify -scp otherwise it defaults to using -sftp which errors out. Anything you can think of that I may be doing wrong? Do I need to do something in the web interface settings (I looked around and did not see anything obvious) Thanks for all your trouble! Charles On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, bhaagensen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Strange, I've never had problems with those files. Anyway, I unzipped > and zipped them again and sent you an email. Hope they work. > > > -- > bhaagensen > > bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46467 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Biogrpahy and Album Review Display on Duet Controller?
bhaagensen, Thanks for those instrucitons. I am sure they will work. My problem now is getting the right files - when i download the files from the link you provided I get 'not a valid archive' with winzip and a different error with winrar. the jive folder on michael's site only has the strings file in it.If you could send them to me, my gmail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] let me know how else i may get them. i have been a big fan of these plugins for years and would love to get them to work on the controller! thanks again. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:09 PM, bhaagensen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, I realise the directions are not that good, so I'll try again. > > 1. Get Biography and AlbumReview from the top of this page: > > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43713&highlight=biography&page=4 > > Save and unzip to desktop. This should create a directory called > AlbumReview on the desktop, where in particular the following directory > hierarchy should exist: > > DESKTOP/AlbumReview/jive/AlbumReview > > In the last, or deepest, AlbumReview directory you should see: > > AlbumReviewApplet.lua AlbumReviewMeta.luastrings.txt > > This is the directory and contents you need to copy to > /usr/share/jive/applets. > > 2. Get pscp.exe from: > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html > > and save pscp.exe to desktop. > > 3. Open cmd.exe, the MS command line. > > 4. Change directory in the command line so desktop is the current > directory. E.g. if you write 'dir' you should see the top level of the > files you've unzipped. > > 5. I'm asssuming you know your controllers IP, and I'll call it SBC-IP. > In the command line write: > > pscp.exe -r AlbumReview/jive/AlbumReview > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/jive/applets/ > > You should get prompted for the SBC password, 1234 by default. The -r > option means recursively, i.e. the last AlbumReview directory including > its contents. [EMAIL PROTECTED] means that the secure copy is being done by > the root SBC user. I'm not 100% sure the syntax is correct, this is how > it works in Linux. If you get errors try pscp.exe -h or pscp.exe -? to > access the help for pscp. > > 6. Optional. Log into your SBC using putty and check that the > AlbumReview with its contents is in fact in /usr/share/jive/applets/ > > 7. Restart the SBC. AlbumReview should now appear under Extras. > > The procedure for Biography is similar. Hope you can get it to work. It > is a REALLY nice application perfect for the SBC. > > > -- > bhaagensen > > bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46467 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Biogrpahy and Album Review Display on Duet Controller?
Thansk..but did not have much luck with the first method. I created a Plugins directory under the Plugins directory. In that directory I created another directory called biogrpahy. In that there are just 2 files: install.xml (from the original Bio direcory) and the single 'strings' file from the jive folder (i did not copy the acutal folder, just its contents). Restarted the server, nopthing shows up in the applet installer on the controller. Looked around the SC settings in the web interface, did not see anything On the second mehtod, what actual files should I put in the /usr/share/jive/applets folder? just the 'strings' file from the jive folder? that does not seem righti did install putty and the scp program and can login to the controller..not that i am familillar with trhese tools, but i shoudl be able to figure that part out. just need to know what files need to go in there. thanks very much. Charles On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 7:31 AM, bhaagensen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shaboyi;292975 Wrote: > > OK - I do. but what do i do with it? i am using the 'bio' plugin from > > that > > version with sqcenter 7.0. is there something i need to do with the > > jive > > folder? or jsut put the 'strigns' file in the bio directory and > > restart? > > and how does it show up on the controller? Thanks! > > > > This should work, but I didn't try myself. Create a folder called > Plugins in the plugins directory and a folder called Biography in that > folder. Copy install.xml and the contents of the jive directory to that > directory. Restart SC and install as per these instructions. > > http://mwiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay_Applets > > Alternative method (what I did) enable remote login on the controller > and use secure copy (scp) to copy the contents of the jive directory to > /usr/share/jive/applets and reboot. > > The plugins show up in the Extras menu on the SBC. > > > -- > bhaagensen > > bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46467 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Biogrpahy and Album Review Display on Duet Controller?
OK - I do. but what do i do with it? i am using the 'bio' plugin from that version with sqcenter 7.0. is there something i need to do with the jive folder? or jsut put the 'strigns' file in the bio directory and restart? and how does it show up on the controller? Thanks! On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thanks! ...i got the sense it may be there already, but it's not...i > guess i'll just keep checking from time to time > > Hmm... don't you see a jive subfolder? > > -- > > Michael > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Biogrpahy and Album Review Display on Duet Controller?
thanks! ...i got the sense it may be there already, but it's not...i guess i'll just keep checking from time to time On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi (This is really for Michael H) - Is there any plan to make the Bio > and > > Album Review Plugin info display on the Duet hand held? I would be > very > > cool feature. > > It is indeed ;-). I've been asked not to announce it. But if you > accidentally find it in the plugins folder, then feel free to use it. But > beware: it's still in a rough state right now. > > -- > > Michael > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Biogrpahy and Album Review Display on Duet Controller?
Hi (This is really for Michael H) - Is there any plan to make the Bio and Album Review Plugin info display on the Duet hand held? I would be very cool feature. I understand that MusicIP mixes may be available in 7.1. It would be great if Bio and album review were also avialable in that release! Thanks, Charles ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Handheld skings - Nokia Skin in IE XP Embedded?
Does anyone know if the Nokia handheld skin will work with IE on a handheld with XP Embedded? Or if there is some other recommeded skin for IE running on a handheld with XP embedded? Thanks much. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Crestron TPMX-8X Wifi Touchpanel Skin
Hi - Has anyone used the Crestorn TPMX-8X (has XP Embedded) with Slimserver who can recommend a nice skin to use with it? And does anyone know if the Tecanto software works with it? Thanks much, Charles ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can the Logitech Harmony 880/890/1000 Control the SB?
Does any one know if the Harmony 880/890 or 1000 can control the SB? If yes, can it do all the functions of the SB remote? Another question, are there any wi-fi enabled remotes that can be used with the SS handheld skin? (in addition to the nokia device). Thanks. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Multizone Distributed Audio Ideas
I am looking to integrate the SB into an existing home distributed A/V system. It is a Niles system with 5 zones. Speaker cables all go back to the a/v closet. There are no local inputs in the different zones (like the Russound system can do with the Abus local source inputs). There are also no stand alone recievers in different rooms. Ethernet and Wireless capabilty is good every where so that is not an issue. I would like to be able to have different music streaming to different zones at the same time. I would like to do at least two different simutaneous streams. This is the solution I have come up with, but it seems hardly ideal: Install 2 SBs in the A/V closet ( called for example, Main-SB1 and Main-SB2). These would be on different audio inputs on the Niles reciever.In each zone I would have a SB (or at least two or three wireless ones that could be moved around, as needed). To listen to one stream in the kitchen I would synch the kitchen SB to Main-SB1 and select the appropriate audio source on the Niles local keypad; at the same time if someone wanted to listen to a separate stream in the media room, that SB would be synched to the Main-SB2 and they would select the appropriate audio source on the Niles keypad. I think it would work, but the downsides are: a lot of SBs, and possible confusion as to who is listening to which stream in which zone. I suppose one could be fixed (like ktichen always synched to Main-SB1) and the other the 'floater'...still not ideal. If anyone has another solution or ideas I'd greatly appreicate it. Thanks., ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Distributed Audio Ideas
I am looking to integrate the SB into an existing home distributed A/V system. It is a Niles system with 5 zones. Speaker cables all go back to the a/v closet. There are no local inputs in the different zones (like the Russound system can do with the Abus local source inputs). There are also no stand alone recievers in different rooms. Ethernet and Wireless capabilty is good every where so that is not an issue. I would like to be able to have different music streaming to different zones at the same time. I would like to do at least two different simutaneous streams. This is the solution I have come up with, but it seems hardly ideal: Install 2 SBs in the A/V closet ( called for example, Main-SB1 and Main-SB2). These would be on different audio inputs on the Niles reciever.In each zone I would have a SB (or at least two or three wireless ones that could be moved around, as needed). To listen to one stream in the kitchen I would synch the kitchen SB to Main-SB1 and select the appropriate audio source on the Niles local keypad; at the same time if someone wanted to listen to a separate stream in the media room, that SB would be synched to the Main-SB2 and they would select the appropriate audio source on the Niles keypad. I think it would work, but the downsides are: a lot of SBs, and possible confusion as to who is listening to which stream in which zone. I suppose one could be fixed (like ktichen always synched to Main-SB1) and the other the 'floater'...still not ideal. If anyone has another solution or ideas I'd greatly appreicate it. Thanks., ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 is OK except for....
yes rescanned a couple of times. read elsewhere that it works in 6.5 but has issues in 6.5.1 depending on the nightly. what nightly are you using?  Where do you get 1.7rc2? Can't find it on their site - the download is just 1.7. thanks. On 10/7/06, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't seem to get MusicIP to work either under 6.5.1.  it is ver 1.7.MIP has never been working better for me than with yesterday's 1.7rc2> API is running.  SS recognizes it insofar as the option to use it on the> main Server Setting page is there (it is not if the API is notDid you do a complete rescan of your collection? This can take a considerable amount of time.--Michael-http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR___discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 is OK except for....
I can't seem to get MusicIP to work either under 6.5.1. it is ver 1.7. The API is running. SS recognizes it insofar as the option to use it on the main Server Setting page is there (it is not if the API is not running).  I have tried the usuall - shutting both applications down, starting MIP, then starting SS.  Usually that worksno luck.  It's an  XP Pro machine.  I also tried the complete uninstall of everyhing and reinstall (i had upgraded on top of 6.3). same result. Are others having this issue? Any suggestions? Thanks.  On 10/6/06, ezkcdude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's o.k., except I can't get MusicMagic to work.--ezkcdudeDIY projects page: http://www.cellandtissue.com/diy.htmlSystem:SB3->Derek Shek TDA1543/CS8412 NOS DAC->MIT Terminator 2interconnects->Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)->Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier->Speltz anti-cables->DIY 2-ways + DaytonTitanic 10" subwooferHe's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28183___discuss mailing listdiscuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.3 nightly crash
kdf - thanks. deleting the cookie worked. as you suspected, it occurred only in the Fishbone skin. As to the browse page it was on, I beleive the left pane was on a search result page and the right plane was an album added from the search results.  thanks again. charles On 6/17/06, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 17-Jun-06, at 7:16 PM, Charles Stanton wrote:> Hi -> >> Any suggestions on what I might do to address this? > Thanks.___>The problem in Pages.pm line 1204 is a bit misleading, as there is nosubroutine reference to be messed up by "" at that line. However, sometimes the location isn't reported accurately.  This looksto have something to do with the pagebar, and perhaps the browse mode.Strange that this has anything to do with which computer you use to access it.  Does it occur with any other skins?  Do you recall what thelast browse page you chose was when last using the Fishbone skin? Thatis stored in a cookie, so you could try removing all cookies related to the slimserver computer from that remote browsers list of storedcookies.  In IE, these are buried in a folder under c:\documents andsettings\\Application Data (or something like that).  Firefox stores them in teh preferences, under Privacy.You might also try tricking the cookies if you can't find them to clearthem:http://:9000/home.html?player=although the player part won't really even be needed for this case. Just select a different browse mode to get a new page set, in casethere is something old or corrupt stuck in there.If you need to debug more, d_client probably isn't going to help much.Try d_http.-kdf ___discuss mailing listdiscuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 6.3 nightly crash
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192.168.1.10 : shuffleType is: track2006-06-17 21:58:11.9707 Can't use string ("") as a subroutine ref while "strict refs" in use at /PerlApp/Slim/Web/Pages.pm line 1204.
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I am using Fishbone. I also use MusicMagic but the behaviour is the same whether it is running or not.
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Re: [slim] Re: Best wireless router for Squeezebox?
One more tip:  - The location/position of the router/AP can be incredibly importantt.  Moiving it just a couple of feet in some cases can improve signal by 25 - 40%.  Use a long Ethernet cable, and try it at a higher elevation in the room (like on top of a bookcase, or mounted on a ceiling).  The signal propagates down well, but laterally quite poor.  Example: Lets say you have the SB on the second floor and can put the router/AP in that room or the room above.  If the router/AP is across the room from the SB, it is possible to get a better signal putting the router/AP on the floor above, especially if it is directly above the SB.  Experiment with various locations, but again, always try the router/AP at a higher elevation.  On 4/23/06, Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have installed a bunch of Linksys routers and Access Points with the SB (20+) -- few of which have any problems.  Of course, wired is always the best.  Some tips:  - Try 'B' only. G is really not necessary for streaming audio if wireless connection is good. B has better range than G, often resulting in a better connection that often solves problems. B is also more than sufficient for web surfing, print sharing. File sharing with large files suffers.  - Never double hop. It works like hell and is nothing but trouble. (Double hop: Wireless to Slimserver machine AND Wireless to SB). It just won't work consistently. One leg must be wired.  - Don't use the Linksys A/G models. The signal strength is poor.  - Scan the environment and select a channel with least congestion - Pretty much never use ch. 6 unless there is no congestion and then this is a good choice - the SB seems to like it.  - In a multiple AP environment, I have seen the SB home on the wrong AP (that is an AP with a weaker signal that is further from it than a closer AP). Resolve this by disconnecting the APs other than the one you want the SB to home to. Set up that connection. Then reconnect the other APs. If littel congestion on Ch. 6, use it for the AP you want the SB to home to.  - Interference issues - If you have 2.4 Ghz cordless phones, see if you can change the channel. if not, dump it and get a 900 Mhz, or other outside the 2.4 range.  Old microwaves will blast out your signal. Get another one or just live with it.  - If a particular Linksys Router/AP has any weird things going on, install latest firmware, hard reset, then re-configure. If this does not help any strange behaviours (like failing DHCP, poor signal, etc.) return it or just get a new one - the $ are not worth the headache). Having installed over 100 of these routers/APs, bad ones account for somewhere around 5% or more. So dump them if problems occur.  - Encryption. I always use WEP 128. Do not see any reason to use stronger/better encryption in a residential environment - Who on earth would go through the trouble of hacking these home networks?  -- especially since so many networks are wide open (at least in metro NY).  Charles  ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Best wireless router for Squeezebox?
I have installed a bunch of Linksys routers and Access Points with the SB (20+) -- few of which have any problems.  Of course, wired is always the best.  Some tips:  - Try 'B' only. G is really not necessary for streaming audio if wireless connection is good. B has better range than G, often resulting in a better connection that often solves problems. B is also more than sufficient for web surfing, print sharing. File sharing with large files suffers.  - Never double hop. It works like hell and is nothing but trouble. (Double hop: Wireless to Slimserver machine AND Wireless to SB). It just won't work consistently. One leg must be wired.  - Don't use the Linksys A/G models. The signal strength is poor.  - Scan the environment and select a channel with least congestion - Pretty much never use ch. 6 unless there is no congestion and then this is a good choice - the SB seems to like it.  - In a multiple AP environment, I have seen the SB home on the wrong AP (that is an AP with a weaker signal that is further from it than a closer AP). Resolve this by disconnecting the APs other than the one you want the SB to home to. Set up that connection. Then reconnect the other APs. If littel congestion on Ch. 6, use it for the AP you want the SB to home to.  - Interference issues - If you have 2.4 Ghz cordless phones, see if you can change the channel. if not, dump it and get a 900 Mhz, or other outside the 2.4 range.  Old microwaves will blast out your signal. Get another one or just live with it.  - If a particular Linksys Router/AP has any weird things going on, install latest firmware, hard reset, then re-configure. If this does not help any strange behaviours (like failing DHCP, poor signal, etc.) return it or just get a new one - the $ are not worth the headache). Having installed over 100 of these routers/APs, bad ones account for somewhere around 5% or more. So dump them if problems occur.  - Encryption. I always use WEP 128. Do not see any reason to use stronger/better encryption in a residential environment - Who on earth would go through the trouble of hacking these home networks?  -- especially since so many networks are wide open (at least in metro NY).  Charles  ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: How can I speed up the web interface?
I have found that the beta 6.5x is much, much faster than 6.2.x and as best I can tell it is pretty close to being bug free and 'ready' for general release. I would give that a try. don't know Linux too well,. but on Windows, I would definately completely remove previous version and reinstall.  I am using it with Fishbone, about 13K songs on a PIV 2.8 with 512 RAM and the browse music (artist, album etc) works great.  On 2/26/06, jonmyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: stinkingpig Wrote:> >[color=blue]> browse music folder is a lot slower than the other methods. Also, > which> skin are you using? If you specify Light or Handheld and Browse New> Music,> does that perform well? Is the browser on localhost, or on another> machine?>Hi, I was using fishbone. I tried Light and that's a lot better (but I don't like it!).The browser's on another machine - I've tried a few different PCsaround the house and they're all the same.So why is the fishbone skin so much slower?Jon.--jonmyatt jonmyatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21437___Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Optimizing Slimserver on a dedicated machine
I don't know it, but I will give it a try and see if it makes an improvement and report back.  I checked the wiki - looks like those are the linux instructions. is there any one place where there are windows instructions  I did move slimserver to a PIV 1.7 Ghz with 640 RAM (XP Pro) and it works better there, that is for sure. But that machine is for the kids and would sure like to put my old PIII to use (supermicro board, always very solid).  On 2/1/06, max. spicer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since switching to MySQL I've definitely noticed things being a lotquicker.  Then again, my slimserver machine is fairly underpowered (PIII 450 with 224MB RAM), so you may not see these effects if runningon a decent machine to start with.If you know MySQL anyway, I'd say go for it.  If you don't, go for itif you're feeling adventurous (shouldn't be too hard), or you think you need all the speed up you can get.  Bear in mind though, MySQL isn'tofficially supported.  However, it's hard to imagine Slim notsupporting it anyway.  ;-)Maxmherger Wrote:> > thx.  I looked through that thread and it appears that the MySQL > mainly> > helps with scanning (please correct me if I am wrong).>> On my system it also sped up CLI requests (getting album/artist/song> lists) by about 25-30%. So I guess searches and browsing the music > collection will also profit (though I never experienced problems> there).>> -->> Michael>> ---> Help translate SlimServer by using the > StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/)--max.spicerThe wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terribleteethand rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-byemax.spicer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20641___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Optimizing Slimserver on a dedicated machine
thx. I looked through that thread and it appears that the MySQL mainly helps with scanning (please correct me if I am wrong).  I don't add music on a daily basis, usually doing it on a 'project' basis where i will ripp 50 or 60 albums over a weekend and add them to the library all at once, letting it scan overnight after the add - so I would not go through the trouble if that is the main benefit. If there are other perceptible performance improvements, I'll do it.  Thanks.  On 2/1/06, Khuli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This may be a more useful thread if you do decide to use mySQL (includes'how to setup' info) http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20397&highlight=mysql--Khuli Khuli's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=851View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20641___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Optimizing Slimserver on a dedicated machine
Thanks.  The 'problem' I am trying to address is to get the web interface to work more quickly. I primarily use the web interface, not the remote.  It can take 30 seconds to load certain pages (like Browse Albums or Browse Artists). The music library is about 10K songs.  The slow load times are not related to the network as best I can tell - it is a wired network and the slow load times occur both from client machines and on the machine running slimserver. I have also shut down musicmagic to see if that helps. Not appreciably.  Memory usage - Musicmagic uses about 24 MB and slim.exe is using about 70 MB. I lowered the database cache size to 13.    I really don't think it is much of a RAM problem:  I notice that the CPU pretty much gets maxed out when loading pages like Browse Artists, Browse Albums. It just may be that I need to move slimserver to a machine with a faster CPU. I was hoping I could use the older PIII as it is a perfectly fine machine.    Any other suggestions would be great.  On 1/31/06, radish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, firstly you don't state what you're trying to achieve - is there aspecific problem you're trying to solve? To answer some of your points in a general sense:> I set it to optimize for background services,> rather than applications under Performance Options (I assume this> should> help as slimserver does run as a system service and that is also the > way> musicmagic is setup). I don't see any difference however.>Doesn't surprise me. What that setting does is prioritize backgroundprocesses over foreground ones. You don't really have any foreground ones, so it won't make much difference.>> a. Keep Unswapped Interval - the default is 30. Should I lower this, to> say> 10 or 5? Will it make a difference?>Unlikely to make much difference. Windows is unlikely to swap out slimserver unless it has to (i.e. it's short of ram) - you have adecent amount and again, nothing else running, so it's unlikely to beswapped out. If anything turning that feature off may preventoccasional "hangups" of the interface. >> b. Database Temporary File - Set to Use RAM. I am sure this is best>Yup.>> c. DB Cache Size Tuning - the default is 10,000. I increased this> 170,000,> under the assumption that this would use roughly 250 MB RAM, using the > guideline that 1 uses about 15 MB. Is this too much, or too> little? Any advice?>Use as much as you can get away with, but maybe not quite that much.With 512 available, I'd be wary of going much above 200 for the process as a whole - what does music magic use?--radishradish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20641___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Optimizing Slimserver on a dedicated machine
I have slimserver 6.2.2 running on a dedicated Pentium III 1.2 G with 512 RAM. The OS is W2K Pro. The machine does nothing except run slimserver and music magic.  I am looking for advice on what I can do to optimize slimserver for this environment.  In Windows, besides removing pretty much all applications and anything else that starts with the computer, I set it to optimize for background services, rather than applications under Performance Options (I assume this should help as slimserver does run as a system service and that is also the way musicmagic is setup). I don't see any difference however.  I noticed under performance there are a number of settings, like -  a. Keep Unswapped Interval - the default is 30. Should I lower this, to say 10 or 5? Will it make a difference? b. Database Temporary File - Set to Use RAM. I am sure this is best c. DB Cache Size Tuning - the default is 10,000. I increased this 170,000, under the assumption that this would use roughly 250 MB RAM, using the guideline that 1 uses about 15 MB. Is this too much, or too little?  Any advice?   any other ideas or point me to other advice would be much appreciated.  Thx, Charles ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox Remote Control Question
My Onkyo remtoe does not have a learning function and I think I have tried 20 or 30 codes (all possible JVC codes I could find in the Onkyo manual as well as anywhere else plus just some other random ones (trying to 'get lucky').  None work, so I suppose I am out of luck.  BTW, in response to kdf, I thouhgt the codes were set by the manufacturer of the box you are trying to control, not set by the manufacturer of the remote and its corresponding component. what you seem to be saying is the manufacturer of the remote maps the codes of the box to its own codes. This does'nt seem to make sense but maybe i am missing something.  Charles  On 1/31/06, vdorta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I remember seeing a different JVC code: 756--vdorta vdorta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1446View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20580___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox Remote Control Question
Hi - I am trying to program a third party remote (onkyo) to use to control basic functions of the SB remtoe.  I have tried the JVC DVD code 0623 and the Squeezebox code 0533 and neither work. Can anyone tell me if these are the correct codes? i have only seen them referenced in other posts but could not find them in the faq or other documentation.   I have checked player settings and both these remotes are checked under the 'remote' section.   I am using 6.2.1 with the latest Squuezebox. Any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Control Codes
Hi - I am trying to program a third party remote (onkyo) to use to control basic functions of the SB remtoe.  I have tried the JVC DVD code 0623 and the Squeezebox code 0533 and neither work. Can anyone tell me if these are the correct codes? i have only seen them referenced in other posts but could not find them in the faq or other documentation.   I have checked player settings and both these remotes are checked under the 'remote' section.   I am using 6.2.1 with the latest Squuezebox. Any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Control Codes not working (?)
Hi - I am trying to program a third party remote (onkyo) to use to control basic functions of the SB remtoe.  I have tried the JVC DVD code 0623 and the Squeezebox code 0533 and neither work. I have checked player settings and both these remotes are checked under the 'remote' section.   I am using 6.2.1 with the latest Squuezebox. Any suggestions? Thanks! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SlimServer Crash on Save Playlist
Hi -  I am running 6.2.2 -5380 - Windows 2000 -EN -cp1252 on in W2K Pro box, and keep getting crashes when saving playlists. the event viewer shows this error:  Event Type: ErrorEvent Source: ApplicationEvent Category: NoneDescription:The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( Application ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. The following information is part of the event: Slim::DataStores::DBI::Track->retrieve() parameters don't include defined values for all primary key columns (id) at /PerlApp/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm line 244  Has anyone seen this or have a suggestion what I can do to fix it. It is totally repeatable and predictable. Thanks. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Biography and OS 10.4
Thanks. I'll try these (I am not at the computer now).  On 12/2/05, gandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and can confirm the remedy - get the additional modules from Michael'ssite the MHCPAN ones. Download them to the desktop somewhere. Find the "real" slimserver installation - the preference pane and "showpackage contents" find your way to the CPAN HTML folder. Open the MHCPANdownload - you need the files in the HTML folder, copy them all and then paste them into the CPAN HTML folder - there will be a couple ofduplicates - dont replace those. Then it will work. The annoyance (forme) is that you have to do this again everytime you install a laterslimserver edition - I keep the MHCPAN folder to hand for this reason --gandtgandt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18715___Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Biography and OS 10.4
Does anyone have instructions for installing Biography on Mac OS 10.4. I tried putting Biography in the plugins directory, but that did not work. I serached around and did not really find muchAny assistance would be appreciated.   Thanks. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can't save playlists in 6.2b2 10/22 nightly
I just tried 6.2 last night and it is much improved and seems very stable. The only thing I noticed was that I can't save playlists.  Hit save and the interface indicates its been saved (switches to edit mode) but does not show up in the playlist list. Thx. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Interrupting play with home automation announcements
I am not sure this will help - and am probably missing something, but why do you want to stream from the sound card? As I understand it most sound cards' output is analog sound. Have you thought of streaming out over your ethernet card? I know there is software out there that can do this. On 6/17/05, willmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's cool, actually just what I was doing, though in Java not Perl. > Also, I'm trying to make it play a stream, not just a file, and switch > back after a defined period of time. This is so I can play audio > generated with text-to-speech as the announcement. Basic idea is that > the announcement will be something like "new email from " or > whatever, not just a generic one. > > Getting the soundcard-to-stream working is the key, seems simple but > having a hard time finding the right SW to use to broadcast anything > played over the soundcard. I am looking for an icecast client that can > do this, if anyone has any pointers definitely let me know. Thannks! > > > -- > willmeyer > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Continuing problems with 6.1
Anyone from slimdevices have any ideas on this? On 6/17/05, Johnny Stork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have noticved this as well, just aftr upgrading > > -Original Message- > From: Charles Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 1:23 PM > To: Slim Devices Discussion > Subject: [slim] Continuing problems with 6.1 > > > I have been running the 6.1 nightlies for about 10 days, currently are > on 6/16. Platform is w2k. Wired SB2. PIII 1.2, 512 RAM. Using > musicmagic. > > I continue to have regular problems with Slimserver being inaccessible > via the web interface. After starting the service, it typically > occurs within 8 hours. There is nothing in the event viewer. Control > from the SB2 continues to work most of the time, but sometimes it too > will continue to work and say it is playing, but no audio and no > elapsed time. > > Restaring the service always fixes it. > > I don't see many posts on this - Am I the only one experiencing this > issue? I have no reason to believe its the machine it is running on > as it is otherwise working well. > Thx. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Replaygain
What is replaygain for the uninitiated? On 6/16/05, dean blackketter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For Squeezebox2 we'll need to fix bug 1320 also, since there aren't > enough steps in the volume control to make this work effectively, but > that shouldn't stop you from getting the server-side working right. > > > On Jun 16, 2005, at 8:09 AM, beo wrote: > > > > > I'd be happy to take a crack at coding it -- no guarantees though. > > > > Any quick hints on where in the code to look to get started? > > > > > > -- > > beo > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Continuing problems with 6.1
I have been running the 6.1 nightlies for about 10 days, currently are on 6/16. Platform is w2k. Wired SB2. PIII 1.2, 512 RAM. Using musicmagic. I continue to have regular problems with Slimserver being inaccessible via the web interface. After starting the service, it typically occurs within 8 hours. There is nothing in the event viewer. Control from the SB2 continues to work most of the time, but sometimes it too will continue to work and say it is playing, but no audio and no elapsed time. Restaring the service always fixes it. I don't see many posts on this - Am I the only one experiencing this issue? I have no reason to believe its the machine it is running on as it is otherwise working well. Thx. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Jump Down/Up or Page Down/Up scolling with the remote
That works, thanks. I noticed that if you press 2 once you get a, twice b and three times c, etc., for the other numbers. this tip is sort of in the remote section of help, but before I posted I looked at that and the impression I had was the number keys were for searching, not browsing through Artists, Albums, etc. Maybe this could be made explicit in help. On 6/17/05, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For example, let's say you are at Browse Music > Browse Artists and > > the first artisit is 2Pac, is there any key on the remote that would > > jump up or down the list say 30 - 40 artists or some other number? > > this way you could go from 2Pac to the Beatles fairly quickly. > > The only way to speed up scrolling I know of is pressing number 2 button > twice to jump to the first artist who's name starts with "B". > > -- > > Michael > > --- > Help translate SlimServer by using the > StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Jump Down/Up or Page Down/Up scolling with the remote
When using the remote, is there any way to jump up or down when browising music. For example, let's say you are at Browse Music > Browse Artists and the first artisit is 2Pac, is there any key on the remote that would jump up or down the list say 30 - 40 artists or some other number? this way you could go from 2Pac to the Beatles fairly quickly. If the remote is not able to do this, might it be in the future? Has this come up before? Thx. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Web interface broken again in trunk
I don't see much in the Event Viewer and nothing that appears at the times it breaks. I have seen this, which may be related: Event Type: Error Event Source: Application Event Category: None Event ID: 0 Date: 6/12/2005 Time: 8:59:19 PM User: N/A Computer: MUSICSRVR Description: The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( Application ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. The following information is part of the event: OpenService failed: The specified service does not exist as an installed service . I also tried completly uninstalling SS and reinstalling the 6/12 nightly (since I had installed on top of 6.0.x). It seems a bit better but bombed out last night at some unknown time. There was nothing in the Event log during that period. Any other suggestions? Thx. On 6/12/05, dean blackketter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 12, 2005, at 4:47 AM, Charles Stanton wrote: > > > I have been having more general problems with the nightlies from the > > last week, all fairly consistent. Platform: W2K Pro. Running as a > > service. SB2, wired. Last nightly used was 6/11 > > > > - Slimserver basically just dies. Under Services and from the Task > > Manager it appears to be running - but the web interface can not reach > > it and if I try starting it from application mode, it hangs. The SB2 > > shows the last played song, but it just stuck there and the remote can > > not wake it. Have to pull the plug and then it hangs on looking for > > SlimServer (it never finds it). > Charles can you look in Administrative Tools -> Event Viewer and see > if there are some events related to SlimServer crashing? There > should be usefule information there. > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Web interface broken again in trunk
I have been having more general problems with the nightlies from the last week, all fairly consistent. Platform: W2K Pro. Running as a service. SB2, wired. Last nightly used was 6/11 - Slimserver basically just dies. Under Services and from the Task Manager it appears to be running - but the web interface can not reach it and if I try starting it from application mode, it hangs. The SB2 shows the last played song, but it just stuck there and the remote can not wake it. Have to pull the plug and then it hangs on looking for SlimServer (it never finds it). - This happens even -- or mostly -- when I am not even using Slimserver, for instance when I come back from being out for some hours - In fact it never happens when using it. - the computer is only running slimsever, and there is nothing wrong with it, so I am confident it is not that. - If I restart the service, it does come back. but this is a constant chore, so from my perspective the last week's nightlies don't work. I am not adept at the debugging, but would be happy to do so with some guidance. ( on a positive not, the web interface, when working, is so much quicker than 6.0.x). On 6/11/05, beo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Changing network.http.keep-alive to false "fixes" it. I'm not sure how > to tell/where to look to try and debug where the session is hanginging. > It does work fine in 6.0.x. > > I was going to see if a different skin fixed it, but every time I > changed from default it crashed -- a 6.1 quirk? > > > -- > beo > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Launching MusicMagic at startup
I have yet to try the MS method, but assuming it is basically the same, look in slimserver settings to make sure that 'use music magic' is checked -- sometimes it is finicky. Also check to make sure that the the musicmagic API service is running in the instance of musicmagic that is running as a service. On 6/9/05, hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ChrisB Wrote: > > Seeing as this has come up again, the best solution I have found is to > > run both as a service (I'm using the MS srvany.exe method for MM, > > Google is your friend). but then using regedit, add a new Multi-string > > value under the Slimserver service Key. Name this DependOnService, and > > then edit it to hold the name of your MusicMagic service. This way, > > the > > slimserver service won't start until the MM service has started. > > HTHI followed these instructions having installed MusicMagic as a service > using the MS technique. It all looks fine - MusicMagicMixer.exe is > showing up in Task Manager, and the service has started. Additionally > the SlimServer service now has a dependency on the MM service showing > up, and I've tested the dependency by restarting the MM service, which > first forces the SS service to shut down and restart once MM is back up > - but MM isn't doing its thing. Not a 'mm' logo in sight. Any ideas > where I might start looking for the problem? Can't see anything obvious > in the event logs. > > Thanks. > > > -- > hunta > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Web interface broken again in trunk
I am got the the same problem on 6/7 and 6/8 nightlies. W2 platform, IE6 browser. Restarting the service fixes it. also appears to be issues with the rss feeds. On 6/9/05, max. spicer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the recent trunk revisions, the web interface appears to have broken > again. When I try to use it, it works for a few screens then hangs, > with the browser constantly trying to load the page. This is exactly > the same behaviour as happened around two weeks ago. Is anyone else > getting this, or is it just me? I'm using Firefox 1.04 on WinXP SP2. > > Max > > > -- > max.spicer > > The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible > teeth > and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws > but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Launching MusicMagic at startup
Sounds great, I'll give it a try. I suppose it should work the same wayas the apptoservice. Thanks. On 6/9/05, Chris Brooking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got it running on Server 2003. This like (top hit on Google) > http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=197 suggests XP is fine as > well. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hunta > Sent: 09 June 2005 17:10 > To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > Subject: [slim] Re: Launching MusicMagic at startup > > > ChrisB Wrote: > > Windows has its own, free, user-defined service toolThis seems to > relate specifically to Windows 2000. However, a bit of > digging around seems to suggest that the two required components can be > used under XP too. Can anyone confirm this first hand? > > > -- > hunta > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Launching MusicMagic at startup
That last post did not get much of a reply, so I'll just post the instructions here in plain text for all to use howerver they wish. Disclaimer: I have no interest in either of the companies that require license keys! If anyone want the instructions in another format, like pdf or rtf, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] === MusicMagic Setup with SlimServer 6.x These instructions provide steps to install Predixis' MusicMagic (MM) software as a Windows system service and to automatically integrate it with SlimServer (SS) on boot. Once setup, MM starts automatically before SS, and no user interaction is required to integrate the two programs. The instructions assume SlimServer (SS) and a SLIMP3/Squeezebox or Softsqueeze player are installed. The MM plugin does not work correctly and can not be set up in Slimserver without a player (it installs but the mixes come up blank). This is a one time procedure. A. Install MM - Install MM and allow it to fully analyze/verify all music before continuing. - Install license key to allow MM to run the API service - Do not turn on the API service at this point B. Install Basta.com's "AppToService" Program (http://www.basta.com) - Install the program and purchase license key. - Install key under the AppToService directory with this command: AppToService /key:xx (for example: C:\Program Files\Basta Computing\AppToService>AppToService /key:xx) C. Setup MM to Run as a Windows System Service - Run AppToService from the Windows Program menu. It opens a DOS shell and shows all the commands. Enter 'q' to quit the menu and at the command line, enter> AppToService /install "c:/program files/predixis/musicmagic mixer/musicmagicmixer.exe" /startup:a /interact:1 (or equivalent, depending on where the MM program is installed). The AppToService program returns an acknowledgement that MM was installed as a service. In Windows Computer Management the service is listed as "ApptoService musicmagicmixer." We'll refer to it as ATS (MM). - Note that the "Interact with the Desktop" switch is ON (/interact:1). This will be turned off from Computer Management>Services>ATS (MM)>Properties>Logon when everything is working. - Go to Computer Management >Services and ensure that the ATS (MM) service is started. If not, start the service. When started the MM UI should open up on the desktop because of the "Interact" switch. - Now turn on the API service in MM (File > Customize Options > Services). Ignore any MM error message that say can not start API service, so long as it indicates it is started. In any case, continue with the instructions. C. SlimServer Settings - Open the Web Interface, go to Server Settings > Plugins and make sure that the MM plugin is checked. Now go to the main Server Settings page and make sure that "Use MusicMagic" box is checked. If SlimServer does not recognized MM, that option will not be available; if not available, follow the next step. - Double check in MM that the API service is running; next go to Computer Management and stop both the ATS (MM) and SS services. Now first start the ATS (MM) service then start the SS service. The order in which the services are started is very important. - SS should now recognize MM, as indicated by the mm next to artists/songs, etc. If not, again make sure that "Use MM" on the main Server Settings page is checked (sometimes it mysteriously will not take). Repeat the Service Start + Stop routine if necessary, with ATS (MM) always started before SS. - Once SS recognizes MM the procedure is basically complete. Note that SS will rescan the music library once MM is recognized. Let it do its thing before testing. - Test: Reboot computer. On reboot MM should start and the UI appear on the desktop. Open SS web interface and the mm should appear next to artists/albums, etc. Create an Instant mix to ensure proper functioning. - Now, turn off the Interact with Desktop setting (Computer Management > Services > AppToService musicmagicmixer > Properties> Logon) by un-checking "Interact with Desktop." - Final test: reboot one last time; check SS interface for mm; create Instant Mix. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Launching MusicMagic at startup
I checked the wiki, I think getting it into that format -- for me -- would be a bit too time consuming. If someone was proficeint at it, I would be happy to send the file on in any format that was best for creating the wiki post. Just let me know the format and where to send if this seems like a plan. Charles On 6/8/05, Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you do that? What format? (I have it in RTF and PDF). > > Thanks. > > On 6/8/05, max. spicer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > shaboyi Wrote: > > > Andrew, > > > > > > I wrote a little 'how-to' for myself and would be happy to share it > > > with you. Just send me an email off forum to shaboyi (AT) gamil (DOT) > > > com and > > > I'll send it to you. > > Couldn't you pop this into the wiki so others can benefit from it? I > > doubt it matters how rough it is - anything would be better than > > nothing. > > > > Max > > > > > > -- > > max.spicer > > > > The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible > > teeth > > and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws > > but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > > > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Launching MusicMagic at startup
How do you do that? What format? (I have it in RTF and PDF). Thanks. On 6/8/05, max. spicer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shaboyi Wrote: > > Andrew, > > > > I wrote a little 'how-to' for myself and would be happy to share it > > with you. Just send me an email off forum to shaboyi (AT) gamil (DOT) > > com and > > I'll send it to you. > Couldn't you pop this into the wiki so others can benefit from it? I > doubt it matters how rough it is - anything would be better than > nothing. > > Max > > > -- > max.spicer > > The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible > teeth > and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws > but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Launching MusicMagic at startup
Andrew, I wrote a little 'how-to' for myself and would be happy to share it with you. Just send me an email off forum to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll send it to you. Mainly it is just the 'apptoservice' commands that need to be entered once and notes on the 'tinkering' I mentioned. Charles On 6/8/05, hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shaboyi Wrote: > > You should try the method I suggested in the earlier post. > Apologies, Charles, I hadn't realised that running as a service would > cure the need to start the two apps in a particular sequence. I'll give > it a go as soon as I get the chance. > > Many thanks, > > Andrew > > > -- > hunta > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Launching MusicMagic at startup
You should try the method I suggested in the earlier post. It does not require a batch file. It works great and have installed it for at least 10 people. Works flawlessy after a little intial tinkering - everything starts on boot in the background, running as system services. Works on 6.0.x and 6.1.x. On 6/7/05, hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kdf Wrote: > > > > 6.1 nightlies should allow you to enable (server settings->pluigns) > > musicmagic > > after slimserver has started up and it will take exiting use settings > > so you > > dont have to suffer through a new rescan. > > > > otherwise, you have to write a .BAT file to delay the startup of > > slim.exe as a > > manual run (not a service). > > > > Thanks for this. I've upgraded to the latest nightly (6.1.0 - trunk - > locale: cp1252 from 7 June) which still doesn't seem to pick up the > presence of MM if it starts up after SS. > > Could someone be kind enough to give some pointers on a .bat file to > delay the start up of MM, preferably dependent on some reliable event? > I'm afraid I'm not up to this sort of thing. > > Much appreciated... > > > -- > hunta > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Minor annoyances in 6.0.x branch
Thanks, but that is not what was happening. There was no way to scroll up - I was at the top of that frame. Anyway, I'll start doing 6.1 again and take kdf suggestion. On 6/7/05, JJZolx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shaboyi Wrote: > > > > The second has to do with clearing the now playing playlist, also on > > the web interface. Occasionally the 'save, download, clear' option > > at the top is simply not visible. It will reappear with a browser > > refresh, but this has its own downside. > > ... > > Has anyone else seen these? Are they known bugs? thanks. > > What is probably happening is that the "Save Download Clear" links have > scrolled upward and off of the page. You might not notice at first that > the right side of the web UI is actually two frames - the top one > displaying the Now Playing info tends not to scroll, but the bottom > frame, if there are enough playlist items, can scroll the contents > upward and out of view. You just need to scroll back up to see them. > > > -- > JJZolx > > Jim > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Minor annoyances in 6.0.x branch
I guess I could. But had some rough experiences a few weeks ago. How close is 6.1, generally speaking, to being stable? Thx. On 6/7/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you considered trying the 6.1 builds? Very little is changing in the > branch at this point since the next official release is planned at 6.1. > > -kdf > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Minor annoyances in 6.0.x branch
Hi- I have been using the 6/3 nightly of the 6.0.x branch. Platform is W2K Pro. Everything works very well except for two annoyances. I am referring to the web interface: The first is with musicmagic. Occasionally (but it feels like 'frequently') I'll create a mix and attempt to either play or add it and nothing happens. It just will not play or add. If I do a browser refresh, sometimes it is there, often it is not, and then I have to start over finding the song or artist that the mix was based on and doing it again. Don't know if anyone has seen this or if it is a known bug. It is not all the time. The second has to do with clearing the now playing playlist, also on the web interface. Occasionally the 'save, download, clear' option at the top is simply not visible. It will reappear with a browser refresh, but this has its own downside. For example, if I have done a search and want to play that artist/album or song - but don't want to add it to the current playlist -- I am stuck doing a browser refresh, clearing the current playlist and starting the search again (search results are not maintained on a browser refresh). The workaround is pretty easy, but also annoying: clear the current playlist before the search/add. But typically I would want to listen to music while I search/add. Has anyone else seen these? Are they known bugs? thanks. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Play for Sure songs
give him a pony. On 6/3/05, Robin Bowes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NHGuy wrote: > > Jacob, > > Go up a few messages and read the marketing blurb from their maketing > > manager talking about how great the realslim plugin works in > > Squeezebox. > > Post a link. > > > I'm not a lawyer, nor do I expect to have to parse the the > > reviews posted on a website to ensure the 100% accuracy of each > > statement. I do know that the $300 I spent on Squeezebox would have > > been much better spent on a ROKU. > > So return it for your money back and buy a Roku. > > R. > > -- > http://robinbowes.com > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Web interface broken in 6.1
I am seeing this all the time over th last 7-8 days - but try restarting the service when it bugs. That usually works for me. I have not debugged, but - hey - this is the development branch so if you want a stable release go back to 6.0.2 - Charles On 5/29/05, max. spicer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it just me, or is the web interface broken in the current 6.1s? I'm > finding that my browser keeps constantly failing to load pages from the > web interface - it sits there constantly loading, but never displaying > any new content. I'm running the Default skin, but was previously on > Default 2. If I restart the server, the interface starts to respond > again, but quickly goes back to failing. It's only the web interfaces > that stops working - SoftSqueeze and my SB2 remain perfectly > responsive. > > R3311 on Debian Sarge. > > > -- > max.spicer > > The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible > teeth > and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws > but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Launching MusicMagic at startup
I found a small shareware program called "apptoservice" that works well and is fairly easy to setup. It starts mm as a service at boot and works well with ss. You can find it at http://www.basta.com. a couple of tips: - when setting up mm as service, initially set it to 'interact with desktop.' this way you can make sure the api service is started and do other troubleshooting (even if you have set the api service in regular mode, it goes away when run as service and needs to be turned on again). Once everything is working well, turn off the interact with desktop - otherwise the mm application always comes up on the desktop, and if closed the service stops. - when upgrading ss from one version to another, the musicmagic plugin may need to be reset within ss. check it in server settings > plugins. make sure the setting takes. then what works for me is: stop the ss service. stop the mm service. start the mm service. start the ss service. now double check server settings to see if 'use mm' is checked. if so, you should be set. charles On 5/19/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 6.1 nightlies should allow you to enable (server settings->pluigns) musicmagic > after slimserver has started up and it will take exiting use settings so you > dont have to suffer through a new rescan. > > otherwise, you have to write a .BAT file to delay the startup of slim.exe as a > manual run (not a service). > > -kdf > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB2: DHCP not working
why don't you use static ip? i find it is more stable generally and is easier to troubleshoot. at a minimum, you always no its address. you can also put it in dns and name it if you have a dns server. On 5/15/05, duhaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have actually had the same problem, just started happening, the SB2 > used to get an address via dhcp, now I have to set it to manual and it > works fine, kind of annoying. I have a wireless netgear. > > -- > duhaas > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Help! SlimServer appears to have totally crashed
thanks. but is the fix in 6.0.x or 6.1? the bug report says its target resolution is 6.1. i'll ask the customer to upgrade, but have not recommended 6.1 yet. On 5/15/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi - has this been addressed in any of the nightlies? one of the sb > > owners i support reports that ss crashes any time he tries to save a > > playlist of 100+ songs. thx. > > > this was a known problem and should be fixed in the nightlies post 04/28. it > involved stale data in the current playlist. > http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266 > > -kdf > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Help! SlimServer appears to have totally crashed
Hi - has this been addressed in any of the nightlies? one of the sb owners i support reports that ss crashes any time he tries to save a playlist of 100+ songs. thx. On 5/6/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > large playlists hammer the db like crazy. server runs and hides. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] music magic broken in 6.1 05-15
kdf - I misspoke. 5/14 also did not work - it was 5/13 that was ok. probably won't be more help as I am short on time to put 5/14 or 5/15 back in and debug. i'll try another nightly later in the week and post if any problems. thanks. On 5/15/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can you provide more infomation (logs?). I can't find any changes to the code > on the 14th, so the 15th build should be pretty much the same thing. > > -kdf > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] music magic broken in 6.1 05-15
On the windows platform (W2K Pro), the most recent 6.1 nightly appears to have broken the music magic plugin. It recognizes mm, but no 'mm' shows up next to songs/albums - even after messing with mm (restarting, checking api service, etc). Backed out to 05-14, and everything appears fine. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using Squeeze with a wireless network drive ?
So long as the external drive only holds your music files and not the slimserver application (which needs to run on the PC), it should not be a problem. Point the music library settings to the network dirve and you should be set. On 5/12/05, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have finally given in and realized this product is the real deal. My > > only complaint, if one could be made, is that I would like to be able > > to point my Squeezebox2 to get its music files not from my PC, but > > rather from an external hard drive that I have connected directly to my > > wireless G router. > > > > Is this possible, and I am just missing the trick to doing this ?..or > > is this not yet possible ? > > The device won't do a lot without a server. It needs slimserver run on a > machine it can connect to. It can't read the files itself. > > -- > > Michael > > --- > Help translate SlimServer by using the > StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Biography as screensaver?
I think Dean may have meant putting biogroaphy as a menu item under 'song info' accessible from the web interface (for fishbone, the capital 'I' on the far right of the a song in the playlist). that would seem better than in Help. Another idea is to simply put it in the drop-down menu along with 'browse artists, browse albums', etc. That would certainly make it very accessible (I can imagine the arguments for not doing so -- contention over what plugins get to go there). . Another suggestion: How about next to Player Settings at the top of the right side pane in fishbone? In anycase, it seems like a more accessible place than Help is warranted -- as it is a very nice plugin On 5/12/05, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another idea I heard from one of our investors was to put the biography > > plugin information inside the song info menu... > > You mean press right from the now playing screen? This might be feasible > (you, of course, know already how to do it :-)). > > BTW: if your investor wants to invest in that plugin, you may give him my > address ;-) > > -- > > Michael > > --- > Help translate SlimServer by using the > StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] biography and 6.1
I think I have the biography plugin installed properly on 6.1 (today's
version) - it is checked in the server settings > plugins and it shows
up under 'help', but no matter what the artist it always 'can't find
any information' - the artists and bands are not obscure. Is there
something I can check? ("Information provided by AllMusic' is
displayed). Thx.
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[slim] List of new features in 6.1?
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[slim] new feature list for 6.1?
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Re: [slim] Best 6.0.x release
6.0.2. will submit the bug report on the alarm. thx. On 5/2/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Is there something else I should be doing? > > What version of the server are you using? In both 6.1 and 6.0.2 is shoudl > timeout after 5 seconds if there is no reponse from musicmagic. > > > One other thing on the Alarm feature (maybe I should start a new > > thread) - is that after setting it, it then seems to randomly reset > > itself to 12:00 AM (while retaining the other settings). Had a > > customer really pissed as it worked a couple of days and then woke him > > up at midnight (he goes to sleep at like 10). I have since duplicated > > the behaviour. Thx. > > you should file a bug report with as much detail as possible. I've never sen > this myself, but then again, I never use the built-in alarm. > > -kdf > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best 6.0.x release
kdf - When I run that command, I get to this point and it hangs: C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server>slim.exe -d_musicmagic 2005-05-02 08:12:49.0858 MusicMagic: Testing for API on localhost:10002 2005-05-02 08:12:49.4946 MusicMagic: Predixis MusicMagic Mixer. Version 1.1.4 Is there something else I should be doing? One other thing on the Alarm feature (maybe I should start a new thread) - is that after setting it, it then seems to randomly reset itself to 12:00 AM (while retaining the other settings). Had a customer really pissed as it worked a couple of days and then woke him up at midnight (he goes to sleep at like 10). I have since duplicated the behaviour. Thx. On 5/1/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > mm is 1.1.4. > > > > I'll do the debug, but first a dumb question. How do I do the > > -d_musicmagic? > > > > - Stop the service > > - from dos go to the slim.exe directory > > - then run slim.exe -d_musicmagic ? > > that should do it :) > > -k > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best 6.0.x release
mm is 1.1.4. I'll do the debug, but first a dumb question. How do I do the -d_musicmagic? - Stop the service - from dos go to the slim.exe directory - then run slim.exe -d_musicmagic ? On 5/1/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > The installation is using musicmagic, but nothing has been added to > > the library (i followed that earlier issue, but have not seen that - > > or maybe this is that - but I have done the same installations a > > couple of times now without that issue.). > > > --d_musicmagic will help to confirm that, but it is a startup trigger, so > you'd > need command-line startup to confirm from the logs. The 6.1 builds have the > added feature that you can workaround this problem by setting the reload > interval to 0. > > if you can report the MMM version numbers on the installations, that helps > too. > I'm not really sure why 6.0.1 might be working where 6.0.2 does not, since > this > seems to be the scan as triggered by a result from musicmagic that I was not > expecting. It would be nice to be able to confirm the cause before you do > revert. That way, it gives a scope for comparison and we can nix this problem > before 6.1 > > -kdf > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best 6.0.x release
I forgot to mention, the other installations (4 all together, with mm, are on 6.0.1, not 0.2). On 5/1/05, Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The installation is using musicmagic, but nothing has been added to > the library (i followed that earlier issue, but have not seen that - > or maybe this is that - but I have done the same installations a > couple of times now without that issue.). > > Also, as I install these, this is not mine per se, but a customers. > I can access their server remotely and see what is going on, but I > don't know about the customers actual behavior. More info: there are > three wired squeezeboxes, not synched.Thx as always. > > On 5/1/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quoting Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > I am having trouble with the 'official' 6.0.2 version (W2K PIII). > > > Every so often the slim.exse process just wigs out, maxing out the CPU > > > and just lingering in that state. No scans, no other interaction, > > > except playing music. Restarting the server works, but then it starts > > > doing it again. > > > > 6.0.2 should be fairly stable (vs 6.0.1, based of course on reported bugs). > > are > > you using musicmagic? if not, are you able to find repeatable process to > > trigger the cpu usage? do web page refreshes make it happen sooner? > > > > -kdf > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > > > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best 6.0.x release
The installation is using musicmagic, but nothing has been added to the library (i followed that earlier issue, but have not seen that - or maybe this is that - but I have done the same installations a couple of times now without that issue.). Also, as I install these, this is not mine per se, but a customers. I can access their server remotely and see what is going on, but I don't know about the customers actual behavior. More info: there are three wired squeezeboxes, not synched.Thx as always. On 5/1/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I am having trouble with the 'official' 6.0.2 version (W2K PIII). > > Every so often the slim.exse process just wigs out, maxing out the CPU > > and just lingering in that state. No scans, no other interaction, > > except playing music. Restarting the server works, but then it starts > > doing it again. > > 6.0.2 should be fairly stable (vs 6.0.1, based of course on reported bugs). > are > you using musicmagic? if not, are you able to find repeatable process to > trigger the cpu usage? do web page refreshes make it happen sooner? > > -kdf > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Best 6.0.x release
I am having trouble with the 'official' 6.0.2 version (W2K PIII). Every so often the slim.exse process just wigs out, maxing out the CPU and just lingering in that state. No scans, no other interaction, except playing music. Restarting the server works, but then it starts doing it again. Should I back out to 6.0.1 (which I did not see this on) or is there a more stable version since 6.0.2? Thx. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3
I also use MusicMagic intergrated with SlimServer and don't see this behaviour once all the music is analyzed by MM and SlimServer has fully scanned the library(prior to those two operations completing the entire computer is maxed out, and I typically stop the slimserver service, let MM do its thing, and then start slimserver again). This is true of a couple of Windows machines (W2K, XP, varying processors from PIII 933 to PIV 2.8, 512 MB RAM and above) Once complete, I see no unsual cpu usage. But I also do not regularly add music. But if this is the main issue, why not add the music before you go to bed? On 4/27/05, abunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is that slimserver pegs the cpu occasionally at start-up when music > magic is integrated (XP SP2). The attached image shows my desktop. > slim.exe is the process pegging the cpu and music magic is done > analyzing the library. I set the reload interval to 600 seconds but > that didn't appear to help. If I kill music magic then the cpu returns > to normal and slimserver functions normally. If I restart musicmagic, > the slim process ramps up again and pegs the cpu. When things are > frisky like this, if I just start music magic in the absence of slim, > the cpu pegs and the MusicMagicMixer.exe is the culprit. But, no > analysis is being done. At least, it claims not (there are a few tracks > that mm lists as unanalyzable - too short). It's a drag; but clearly, > music magic is to blame, not slim. Maybe this thread is happening in > the wrong forum ;) > > We need the kdf of mmm to save us. > > -Andy > > PS On the occasions that slim.exe doesn't peg the cpu continuously it > pegs it every minute or so for ten seconds or so. > > +---+ > |Filename: new-1.jpg| > |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=103| > +---+ > > -- > abunn > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Birography Question
Got it. Thanks. On 4/23/05, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:34:53 +0200, Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Maybe I just don't know how to use it. Should there be artists listed > > under Help > Birography? Or do I have to go to Brows Artist, then go > > to Help > Biography? > > You can't be wrong: go to the Biography page and it will display whatever > information it finds about the currently played artist. It's only looking > for music that's currently playing. > > > > > > I'll try the debug as well. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > On 4/23/05, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:14:44 +0200, Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I installed Biography plugin, and it appears to have installed fine. > >> > But, under Help > Biographies, all I get is: 'Could'nt find any > >> > information'. > >> > > >> > Am I doing something wrong? > >> > >> No, this can have various reasons: may be it does not find the artist, > >> or > >> there's a timeout while downloading the information. > >> > >> If you start Slimserver running "slim.exe -d_plugins" from the command > >> line, you should get a lot of debugging messages. What do they say? > >> What's > >> the artist's name? Could you try with another artist? And what server > >> version are you using? > >> > >> I'll release a new version for slimserver 6.1 which should come with a > >> little more explicit messages. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> --- > >> Help translate SlimServer by using the > >> StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) > >> > >> ___ > >> Discuss mailing list > >> Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > >> http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > >> > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > > -- > > Michael > > --- > Help translate SlimServer by using the > StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Birography Question
Maybe I just don't know how to use it. Should there be artists listed under Help > Birography? Or do I have to go to Brows Artist, then go to Help > Biography? I'll try the debug as well. Thanks! On 4/23/05, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:14:44 +0200, Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I installed Biography plugin, and it appears to have installed fine. > > But, under Help > Biographies, all I get is: 'Could'nt find any > > information'. > > > > Am I doing something wrong? > > No, this can have various reasons: may be it does not find the artist, or > there's a timeout while downloading the information. > > If you start Slimserver running "slim.exe -d_plugins" from the command > line, you should get a lot of debugging messages. What do they say? What's > the artist's name? Could you try with another artist? And what server > version are you using? > > I'll release a new version for slimserver 6.1 which should come with a > little more explicit messages. > > -- > > Michael > > --- > Help translate SlimServer by using the > StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Birography Question
I installed Biography plugin, and it appears to have installed fine. But, under Help > Biographies, all I get is: 'Could'nt find any information'. Am I doing something wrong? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer 4-22 install failure; can not back out
I did not see your post until after I completly uninstalled and then
reinstalledAll my settings were lost, but Oh Well!
On 4/23/05, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:18:47 +0200, Charles Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > W2K Pro: I upgraded to the 4-22 nightly, which installed OK, but in
> > the plugins directory I could not change any value, so decided to back
> > it out to 6.0.1 ('official').
>
> What do you wanted to change and why/how did it fail?
>
> [..]
> > computer. The following information is part of the event: Undefined
> > subroutine &Slim::Buttons::Common::setFunction called at C:/Program
> > Files/SlimServer/server/Plugins/Favorites/Plugin.pm line 211.
> > .
> > Any suggestions on how I fix this??
>
> Did you install a 6.1 nightly over 6.0.1?
>
> The Favorites plugin uses functions that are not available in 6.0.x.
> Remove it from your plugins folder (as well as Podcast, RadioIO,
> Shoutcast, Picks) and reinstall 6.0.x
>
> --
>
> Michael
>
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[slim] SlimServer 4-22 install failure; can not back out
W2K Pro: I upgraded to the 4-22 nightly, which installed OK, but in
the plugins directory I could not change any value, so decided to back
it out to 6.0.1 ('official').
Now I get:
"Could not start SlimServer on Local Computer. the service did not
return an error...this could be due to an internal windows error or an
internal server error.'
In Event Viewer > Applications I get: Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application
Event Category: None
Event ID: 0
Date: 4/23/2005
Time: 9:11:42 AM
User: N/A
Computer: MANHN-WS
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( Application ) cannot be
found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry
information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote
computer. The following information is part of the event: Undefined
subroutine &Slim::Buttons::Common::setFunction called at C:/Program
Files/SlimServer/server/Plugins/Favorites/Plugin.pm line 211.
.
Any suggestions on how I fix this??
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Re: [slim] some dumb questions
> > Player settings->audio has a setting for bitrate limiting if you want to ever > force a particular client (such as a remote softsqueeze client) to use lower > bandwidth mp3 only). If you know you will never have need of wav->mp3, etc > then you can choose to disable them. Format conversions that fail to find > required binaries are automatically disabled (another reason for this page, a > status) Question on the remote client comment (this is a performance question) - If there is SB client that is only used as a remote controller via the synch players feature and is not connected to an audio system at all (for example a wireless SB in a room that is part of a multi-room audio system), can you obtain some performance (network) improvements by limiting bandwidth to that player -- assuming it does not affect the player it is synched to? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos Doesn't Have to be a Threat
I use a program called 'apptoservice' available here: http://www.basta.com/ProdAppToService.htm While apptoservice is pretty straight forward to setup, getting them all to work together takes a little trial and error, but eventually works well and consistently. Couple of tips I have found useful (but don't work all the time - it is a frustrating and I posted earlier about this, to no satisfactory resolution). I assume slimserver is running as a service. - Do the song analysis in mm first in regular mode - When setting up mm, do it when it is running as a service. For example, if you turn on the api in plain application mode, when you go to run it as a service, the setting is turned off. - When setting up the mm service, set it to interact with the desktop. After it is working well, you can turn this off. Always check to make sure the api service is on. - SlimServer tips - mm must be running first before mm is setup in SS. Make sure that mm is selected on the Server Settings > Plugin page; make sure that on the main Server Settings page 'use music magic' is checked.I found that at first SS may not recognize mm. So get mm working as a service going first with api service active. Then restart SS via Computer Management > Services. You may have to do this more than once. - The real test is to see if everything works on boot, which you may have to do a couple of times. Once everything is set, turn off 'interact with desktop' for mm service (otherwise it opens on every boot and if you close, the service is stopped). It does work reliably once the tinkering is done. I would be interested how you make out (I have done this 3 or 4 times - so it does work). On 4/14/05, Simon Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ""The other comment about smart playlists is solved by the musicmagic > plugin. . On the > Windows platform, I have a nice way to have it start up a service, so > like the slimserver it is completely transparent to the user." > > I'm really impressed with MusicMagic so far - it's getting me > listening to a lot of things i hadnt heard in a long while and the > mixes work much better than i expected. > > However, i havent worked out how to run it as a service - since my > server gets used for TV/.internet and more MM tends to get shut down > and then it can be a sod to get it working with Slimserver again. > What's your solution? > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
