Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

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Paul Webster wrote: 
> I didn't get to try it from the N770 but I could see that it still had a
> bookmark set to access it with an IP address of my Windows machine ...
> from when I used to run LMS in Windows ... so I suspect I might still
> have the Nokia770 skin on that system if I migrated machines by copying
> all of the data.
> 
> To try it out from the N770 has another hurdle though ... it cannot do
> modern WiFi security so cannot connect to my LAN so I would have to put
> in a special access point for it.

Sometimes “just because I can” doesn’t stand up as a valid argument. You
know that you have many better things to do today!

PS Let us know if it works.



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Re: [slim] Register your appreciation .....

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Thanks for reminding me.
Done



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Re: [slim] Looking for a Squeezelite version for Apple M1

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schoeppi wrote: 
> I am looking for a Squeezelite version which is working on a Mac Book
> with the M1 processor.
> 
> I have downloaded the version from
> 
> 
> 
> But I get an error when I try to run them. Mac OS means that the
> Squeezelite app is damaged and should be moved to the trash :-).
> 
> Where can I get a working Squeezelite version for Mac OS Ventura on a M1
> Mac Book?
> 
> Cheers and thanks,
> 
> Schoepp

Look for any post by user Ralphy. There is a link in his signature to
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Re: [slim] Does Anyone Have a Slimdevice for Sale?

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paulsbox2...@gmail.com wrote: 
> Hello,
> 
> Thanks for the tip, I am in Bristol, UK

Is there nothing on eBay? 
As Jim says forget the Duet idea it’s the worst device in the family by
a long way.
Either hold out for a Touch, get an SB3 or build your own player using a
Pi (when they have sorted the supply issue).



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Re: [slim] newbie questions

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slartibartfast wrote: 
> We all remember the HLS/Dash fiasco where Squeezeboxes had one of the
> earliest solutions.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Exactly



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Re: [slim] newbie questions

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RobbH wrote: 
> An old-fashioned alarm clock has one significant advantage: you will be
> able to continue using it, as long as it continues to work, without
> having to worry if the external technologies it depends on will continue
> to support it. (Other than the power grid, that is, unless you go with a
> purely mechanical clock.) As you said, you've had your Radio a long
> time, probably ten years or more if you got it as a new product. Much
> has changed since it was in production, but it would still work for you,
> if the BBC were not discontinuing its support. LMS is a great solution
> for many people, but not a good fit for your situation. Since this is
> your only use of the Squeezebox/LMS ecosystem, and you have no need of
> its many other features, the cost and effort to keep your Radio working
> probably wouldn't make sense. Unless you happen to have an unused
> Raspberry Pi, or some other low-powered computer that you wouldn't mind
> leaving on all the time.
> 
> There may be other internet radios that would work for you, if you want
> to continue waking up to Radio 3. A quick search turned up this
> information about some recent models from Grace Digital:
> 
> https://support.gracedigital.com/hc/en-us/articles/204213520--NEW-BBC-live-streams-on-your-Grace-Radio
> 
> Will those radios continue to work with evolving technology, ten years
> from now? That's impossible to predict!

I think this is entirely correct except I’d urge caution when looking
into other products and particularly whether they will work with BBC R3
going forward. Aunty, in her infinite wisdom, is changing things as you
know and are “working with manufacturers”. On previous occasions this
has actually meant nothing and although they kept these shoutcast
running for a while a lot of internet radios will simply become
redundant shortly so far as listening to BBC radio is concerned.

Regrettably something like an Amazon Echo Show maybe your only real
option!



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Re: [slim] newbie questions

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franklekens wrote: 
> I've had the Logitech Squeezebox alarm clock for a long time, but my
> questions are definitely newbie level, I'm afraid. I've used it for a
> long time without fiddling with any of the software or firmware. But now
> I want to do something to install BBC Sounds, as BBC is going to stop
> support for the stream I'm currently using.
> 
> I see info about a BBC Sounds plugin here. Correction: somewhere on this
> forum. (I'm not allowed to post links for some reason.)
> And instructions to install somewhere else (ditto).
> 
> But I don't understand. There's talk of a *plugin* there. 
> All I see in My squeezebox are *apps*. Nothing about any plugin.
> Nor is there any section called plugins in the Logica Media Server
> Control panel. 
> I've only just installed the LMS, I've only managed to do without it. In
> fact, I can install it, but if I enter my data to log in to mysqueebox
> account, it says it can't make the connection. This is on the same
> computer where I *am* able to log in to my squeezebox via the web
> browser.
> 
> I'm totally befuddled and hope I don't have to spend hours finding out
> how to update & reconfigure the squeebox to work with BBC Sounds. Thanks
> for any tips.
> 
> (By the way: is it really necessary to have that image verification
> here? It's very hard to read what's on the images. It's taking me a no
> end of tries, it's just bloody impossible. Don't be surprised if you
> don't hear from me anymore, because I'm starting to think it will be a
> miracle if this ever gets posted.)


BBC Sounds is a plugin for LMS (Logitech Media Server)
If you have installed LMS on the PC - open a browser on that PC and do
http://localhost:9000 - then at bottom right choose Settings - you will
then see a Tab that says Plugins
Can't answer why you can't connect your MySqueezebox ccount



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

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kwolter wrote: 
> Curious how you do this?  I use the Squeezebox plugin on Homeseer, but
> curious if there are other ways???

There is an option in pCP to auto play an LMS favourite at start up



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Re: [slim] Is there a now playing view that also shows lyrics?

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CJS wrote: 
> I am probably missing something, since it seems that you are already
> answering your own question?
> If you click the "plus" in the "now playing" screen and navigate to
> lyrics, you get a screen that shows the lyrics, right?
> Maybe you can clarify what you try to accomplish. Also it may help to
> tell which controller (Jivelite or LMS material skin or something else)
> you are using to show the now playing screen.

Adding to this. Lyrics are hit & miss. Mostly available but equally
often not. What would you expect to see when not?



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

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I have put more info about the current options for using the WiiM Mini
with LMS into 3rd Party Hardware -
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116997-Wiim-Mini-and-Pro

Basically it can be made to work with LMS as it stands with both the
AirPlay bridge and uPnP bridge but as usual both have compromises. 

It is however confirmed as running a version of Linux so the inclusion
of Squeezelite at some future time should be possible and is now on
their roadmap. If this happens then yes it will be just like any other
SB player device with no compromises on the audio front although I don't
suppose it will be possible to pass metadata to the WiiM App but
personally I don't think that matters when you are going to be using
Material on the same phone/tablet anyway. It will be just like
squeezelite running on a Pi without a touch screen.



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Re: [slim] NAS + Squeezebox + Plex

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For many years I have had my music files on a 4 disk QNAP 419P NAS but I
stopped running LMS on it some time ago as it's an Arm processor and
only has 512mb RAM. It couldn't cope with lots of transcoding and the
last Qnap approved version of LMS was 7.7.6. It is however great at
doing its principal job which is file sharing.
So I now have the QNAP which holds all the files and two separate
production machines - one for LMS and one for Plex - that connect over
NFS to the NAS. I have rebuilt the LMS machine a number of times but by
always using the same mount point strategy I have always made existing
playlists work.
I also have numerous "dev" devices, Pi's etc which also connect to the
NAS via NFS when required and a second offsite QNAP which syncs files on
an overnight basis. There is a Pi based LMS at the same site with an NFS
mount to the QNAP so when I visit I can play everything that I have in
my main (home) office.
I have considered Dockers but rejected the idea on the basis that it
meant unnecessary expense on a new more powerful NAS when the one I have
does what I ask it to.



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Re: [slim] text editor in piCore

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RobbH wrote: 
> Nano can be installed. Check "Extensions" from the pCP main page.
> 
> I think the vi editor is pre-installed. It's a good editor to know, but
> if you have never used it before, it is frustrating and
> counter-intuitive. Fortunately, plenty of guides to vi are available
> online.
> 
> Also, there is a text file viewer -- not an editor -- called less. I
> think it is pre-installed on pCP. And it's much more intuitive than vi!

For a non Linux person by far the easiiest method to edit a file is by
using WinSCP. 

WinSCP connects exactly like an ssh client but gives you a graphical
Windows like interface. Find the file you want to edit and right click
on it and do Edit. For those that do this regularly add Notepad++ as the
default Editor.



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Re: [slim] Suggestions for Squeezebox player replacement for a non-techie longtime SB user

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chicks wrote: 
> I turned gapless off because it was stopping at the end of each song via
> UPnP, but that was several firmware updates ago. Sounds like WiiM has
> fixed it now.

My screenshots above are my fully working uPnPBridge settings. I can't
recall if I ever tinkered with Common Paramters - I might have.



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Re: [slim] Suggestions for Squeezebox player replacement for a non-techie longtime SB user

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slartibartfast wrote: 
> Was it someone else who couldn't get gapless to work with the WiiM?
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Yes it was "chicks" who said to get it to work with uPnP he had to
switch off gapless - that would be a showstopper for many but I saw it
on Amazon at a Black Friday price so took a punt.

First impressions are that it seems more stable on uPnP than with the
Airplay bridge (which is odd). 

It works on 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz WiFi so has connected to my SSID at 5Ghz. The
Dac32/Digi32 devices only had 2.4Ghz and I found them unstable with
Qobuz HiRes. This seems OK on that front.

I have yet to use it's native service clients except a quick test on
Qobuz but it is an impressive list.



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Re: [slim] Suggestions for Squeezebox player replacement for a non-techie longtime SB user

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Connected via Optical to Onkyo CR-N755 which is 24/96 capable

Works fine with Airplay bridge except a few dropouts but that could be
to do with current placement of the device and interefrence of some
description i.e. WiFi issue.

Gave it a go with uPNPBridge. Worked straight away WITH gapless -
playing DSOTM again

Common parameters

39211

Device specific - only changes here were device name and 96000

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Re: [slim] Suggestions for Squeezebox player replacement for a non-techie longtime SB user

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slartibartfast wrote: 
> Are you sure you can't get gapless to work with the upnp plugin? Maybe
> changing other settings would help. Maybe transcoding would help. It is
> a bit of a minefield.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Hi Slarti
I shall be testing it with the upnpbridge in next few days and obviously
I shall try to get it to work gapless. I can already confirm that
gapless (and metatdata) works on AirPlay as I'm playing DSOTM right now!



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Re: [slim] Suggestions for Squeezebox player replacement for a non-techie longtime SB user

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d6jg wrote: 
> I’d second Airplay as a good option. 
> Phillipe’s AirplayBridge is relatively simple to use. His upnpbridge is
> not anywhere near as simple (nothing to do with his coding - just the
> fact that upnp as a protocol is crap).
> I have taken delivery today of a Wiim Mini but not yet unboxed it. After
> I have I’ll let you know whether it is a real contender. chicks who
> recommended it today told me that it does work with the airplay bridge
> but that as far as the upnpbridge is concerned he had to disable gapless
> which for me is a no no.

Unboxed to go - about 10 mins. It automatically does a firmware update
which takes the majority of this time.
Box contains the WiiM, an optical cable, a 3.5 to 3.5 aux cable, a 3.5
to 2 x RCA cable and a USB charging cable but no adapter - generous
nevertheless.

I already had Phillipe's AirPlay bridge installed and the WiiM was found
within a couple of seconds.
I shall use it in this mode as my background player all of today and
report further but initial reaction on AirPlay (16/44.1 only) is good.



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Re: [slim] Suggestions for Squeezebox player replacement for a non-techie longtime SB user

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RobbH wrote: 
> Just for future reference, Airplay2 devices are supposed to be
> backward-compatible with Airplay, and many are. But some are not.
> 
> My recommendation of Airplay was contingent on your wanting to
> synchronize players. Since that is not something you need, Airplay might
> not be the best choice for you. But it could still be an option. If you
> see an Airplay2 device that interests you, you could ask in these forums
> if anyone has been able to use it with LMS.

I’d second Airplay as a good option. 
Phillipe’s AirplayBridge is relatively simple to use. His upnpbridge is
not anywhere near as simple (nothing to do with his coding - just the
fact that upnp as a protocol is crap).
I have taken delivery today of a Wiim Mini but not yet unboxed it. After
I have I’ll let you know whether it is a real contender. chicks who
recommended it today told me that it does work with the airplay bridge
but that as far as the upnpbridge is concerned he had to disable gapless
which for me is a no no.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

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chicks wrote: 
> OK, just tested the Airplay bridge->WiiM Mini.  Works OK, except no
> album art displayed.  Album art displays fine with UPnP, and of course,
> UPnP will work up to the 24/192 limit of the WiiM.  I think the only
> thing I had to configure for UPnP with the WiiM was to turn gapless off,
> as it would quit at the end of every song with it enabled.
> 
> 39178

The lack of gapless is quite a significant flaw if you are an album
person.

The screenshot you have included - is it from the WiiM App? Do you see
cover art in Material?



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

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Paul Webster wrote: 
> Note: AirPlay plugin supports LMS sync to other players but UPnP bridge
> does not. Might be important to some.

The AirPlay bridge is also much easier to get working correctly! It
either works or doesn’t.
The upnpbridge however is an absolute pig (not because of Phillips,s
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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

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chicks wrote: 
> It supports UPnP, wouldn't bother with the more limited Airplay.  UPnP
> works nicely, LMS->WiiM Mini.

Do you have it working perfectly with the UpnpBridge or are there any
compromises? 
If so can you publish the fragment from the bridge.xml file



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

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Reading the specs I see this has Airplay 2. Has anyone tried it with
Phillipe’s Airplay bridge? I know the bridge is Airplay 1 only but often
devices are backward compatible



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

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Paul Webster wrote: 
> My Controller is starting to play up - I suspect the battery is coming
> towards end of its life.
> It gets used most days to control a SqueezeAMP in the kitchen which is
> also controlled by 2 Jogglers (at opposite ends of the room).
> 
> SB2 used every morning and many evenings - screen still good but I think
> that is because I have screensaver set to blank it after 30 seconds,
> even when playing.
> 
> Openpeak2 (Joggler in a bigger case and with 2 front facing speakers)
> sits in the bathroom and is used every day.
> 
> Joggler on my desk, connected by USB to a Behringer mixer and then to
> HiFi Amp is probably the most used.
> 
> I just put LMS on an old RPi1 to ship to a family member who currently
> uses a Squeezebox Radio with MySqueezebox. The LMS is to keep him
> running when BBC switches of Shoutcast streams next year ... hopefully
> they will not kill off opensource use of BBC Sounds API at the same
> time.
> 
> Another family member is waiting for their shipping container to arrive
> having just changed country ... in it is their LMS on a RPi, Joggler and
> 2 AirPlay devices they they were using in UK ... A new SqueezeAMP from
> the next batch is destined for them to add to their set as they have
> more rooms in their new place.
> 
> Grandson has a Joggler in his bedroom that connects to LMS on an old RPi
> 1 powered by USB socket on their router. They gave me back their SB2
> (that was connected to a DJ mixing desk) because it stopped working ...
> turns out it was just the power supply that was faulty so it will be
> making the return trip soon with a replacement power brick.
> 
> Another family member has another of my my old RPi with original IQaudio
> HAT plus 3 Jogglers - one with USB connection to good small B speakers
> and another to a mini HiFi and another in a bedroom using the built-in
> speaker.
> 
> I love it.
> 
> Edit:
> PS - I forgot to mention the other ones that are in place but not used
> much ... 2 SB Radios plus another SqueezeAMP (used when the ironing has
> to be done).

Great stuff!

I use Jogglers but only as Now Playing / Control devices except one
which bizarrely is connected to a Behringer mixer! Said mixer is also
connected to a Trio KD1033B turntable (70’s) and also to my main PC.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

[d6jg]

I never had a Duet. I started off in 2008 with an SB3 and relatively
quickly discovered iPeng so never needed one.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

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Apesbrain wrote: 
> It's not $700 better than "Roon Lite": LMS + Material Skin + Music And
> Artist Information.

My thinking entirely



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

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mherger wrote: 
> Haha... and it doesn't stop there - thanks to an amazing response to the
> above video:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPwLSb4vzJU


Watched this morning. He still holds our ecosystem in high esteem. Is
Roon really that good?



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

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w3wilkes wrote: 
> This issue must just be for specific SB devices. My 2 Duet controllers,
> receivers, Boom and PicorePlayer all work fine on my WiFi 6 ASUS router.

I’m sure the issue depends which WiFi Router / Access Point you are
using. The SBs are fussy with some but not all.



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Re: [slim] WiFi Extenders and LAN

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agbagb wrote: 
> Thanks for that link!  That's what I had expected - "Disposant d'un port
> Ethernet WAN-LAN vous avez possibilité de relier un équipement PC" - and
> I tried it with both some SB kit and a WiFi-off laptop - with no
> connection.  I used the LAN cable supplied with the Pop extender, but
> I'll try some other cables too, just in case  I won't be a the new
> place for the next few days, so this will be a weekend task.  If I can
> get it to work, it will solve almost the whole of the WiFi6 / SBs issue
> for me!
> 
> One thing, though.  The Freebox installtion guides only mention the
> Ethernet port as an INPUT to the TV box or WiFi Extender.  That link you
> found is a 3rd party site - and I have to wonder (France being France!)
> whether they verified that the socket was indeed 2-way, or did as I did,
> and simply thought "An Ethernet Socket - that will be handy!".

The mode of usage is usually switchable inside the WiFi Extender
interface. Is there a user manual online (en Anglais) ?



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Re: [slim] BBC ending Shoutcast stream

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Don’t you think this could be Auntie attempting more geo blocking? 
If you have ever had any dealings with overseas networking you will find
that www.bbc.co.uk returns a different site entirely to the one we see
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Re: [slim] BBC ending Shoutcast stream

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I’ve been kicked out of the LMS BBC Sounds plug-in but a new BBC account
has resolved that for now but I fear the worst given their track
record.

There must be some seriously pissed off HiFi manufacturers!



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

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whitman wrote: 
> Wiim have a new forum at a new site, and the discussion about adding
> LMS/Squeezelite capability to its Mini (and forthcoming Pro) has been
> given a new thread there. Would be good if we added some more posts
> there to encourage Wiim to get on with this!
> 
> https://wiim.community.forum/threads/lms-squeezelite-support.26/
> 
> I've also added this to the 3rd Party Hardware section here, which might
> be more relevant.

Do you know what the device OS is built on? Linux, Android etc 

If it’s Linux then shoehorning Squeezelite into it shouldn’t be that
difficult but Android is a different matter.



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Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

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threshold350 wrote: 
> Not sure about Spotty but Qobuz has a cache setting that I set to
> prevent any buffering.  Maybe it will help Spotty with transcoding and
> syncing to all the players
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Good point but it’s not a Qobuz setting it’s general.

Settings / Advanced / Networking / Streaming Mode - choose Cache or
Persistent rather than Normal



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Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

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That log says that there is transcoding going on presumably because one
or some of the players require it. That can cause issues but probably
isn’t the problem if your server has done grunt.

You imply that your players are on WiFi. Interference can cause issues
such as this and is very difficult to diagnose. 

Take a player at a time out of the sync group to try to determine if
there is a particular player that is causing the issue.



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Re: [slim] LMS and bluetooth

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I think you have missed out the easiest way of all. Use a separate
Bluetooth Transmitter plugged directly into headphone out of whatever
device you are using.

Also equally good as the Android option is any iOS device with iPeng
installed and player mode enabled.

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Re: [slim] Digital out for RPi player

[d6jg]

An alternative is one of these.

https://hifimediy.com/product/sabre-9018-uae23hd-usb-dac/

Connects to USB on Pi and has a 3.5mm analogue/optical out. Very
flexible.

I don’t have this model but I do have two earlier versions and they work
very well albeit you do need to up the default volume level in Alsamixer



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Re: [slim] Natural sounds

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Roland0 wrote: 
> Another option: 'Ambient Noise Mixer'
> (https://www.nexus0.net/pub/sw/lmsnoixer/)

Or get some Brian Eno CDs



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Re: [slim] New radio Stations

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Man in a van wrote: 
> I wonder if the players will be snapped up ?

Look to me as if they are simply Bluetooth speaker (high end ish)



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[slim] Ukraine

[d6jg]

Like everyone else I’m horrified at the current situation and I’d like
to keep as up to date as possible.
Does anyone know of an internet radio stream broadcast in English from
Ukraine? I’ve found a station called Kiss FM that’s clearly switched to
24hour news but in Ukrainian. Anyone?



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Re: [slim] Is it possible to connect with an online event?

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anglecard48 wrote: 
> I wonder if it's possible to connect with an online music event via my
> LMS? I use PiCore Player / Raspberry Pi. I recently received two gifts,
> one a Virtual Weekend Pass to the Elmhurst University Jazz Fest and
> another to the Northwest Chamber Music series of online concerts. Sue I
> can watch and listen on my laptop. Watching is secondary to listening.
> I'd like to listen through my hifi system. Do you know if that is
> possible?
> Thanks.

Easiest and simplest is just connect your laptop to your HiFi. You can
do this in a low fi way by using the headphone out on your laptop into
your HiFi (3.5mm to 2xRCA) or a more HiFi way using a USB DAC.
If you really want to get the sound into LMS then it can be done but
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Re: [slim] PiCore

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There are indeed lots of routers that will only allow a reservation
-inside- their reservation scope - Fritzbox as just one example - but
may will allow it inside and outside.

Why is a reservation better than a static?
1) if you decide to change your subnet  - from 192.168.1.0 to
192.168.2.0 for example - then you would effectively divorce anything
with a true staic IP from the network. Using a mac address based
reservation would just require a device reboot to get it back.
2) you need to change DNS servers
3) you need to change the Gateway



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Re: [slim] Neil Young at it again

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garym wrote: 
> that's more extreme than usual I think, but a great example.

That’s not down to Tidal though is it? It’s the label releasing a poor
digital remastering and probably applies to the same ELP album streamed
from elsewhere. 
I can see the take up of FLAC streaming causing a reversal of the
“loudness war” to some extent as even the buds brigade now often opt for
high end ones. Hopefully the labels will revert to more dynamic
mastering going forward.



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Re: [slim] message for every music play?

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Look at the WhatWasThatTune plugin



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Re: [slim] PiCore

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There are two stages in WiFi connection.
First is the SSID connection to the WiFi Access Point or Router and
second is the acquisition of IP address from DHCP server and connection
to the network subnet.
If you attempt to give the Pi a static IP address you simply will not be
able to tell whether it is working or not or more accurately when it
fails which bit you should troubleshoot.
It’s fairly common for WiFi to be up but the client can’t receive an IP
address for some reason or other. 


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Re: [slim] PiCore

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Peet wrote: 
> There is a smart help on Internet to find out if a portnumber is open:
> https://networkappers.com/tools/open-port-checker#.
> All the Ip adresses I used the last three years I checked but all were
> blocked.
> It's strange because all is working well: 4 LS en LMS = 5 PI's worrking
> together with a static IP for the LS for years..
> But New music I cann't use because I can't reach the web LMS.
> I think a brandnew SD with a brandnew PiCore is the only solution.
> 
> Jim: it's not difficult to make a static IP. But take when you use WIFI.
> In that case there is a new tab for making a static IP for wifi.
> If you want an example to fill in the fields: let me know.
> 
> Everybody thanks for your help
> Peet

You should not attempt to use the piCorePlayer options for a static IP
when using WiFi. There is a good technical reason for this.
Instead reserve an IP for the WiFi MAC address in your router’s DHCP
settings (most routers have this capability although some dress it up as
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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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There is a firmware update dated 12/2021 for the SRC-DX here
https://audiowise-canada.myshopify.com/products/src-dx
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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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pkfox wrote: 
> Bugger I thought we were on to something :-(

I think it determines that it’s either the USB port on the NUC or an
intermittent fault on your SBCDX. As there is nothing in dmesg the
latter is more likely.



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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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pkfox wrote: 
> It's a pity dmesg doesn't show the time and date in a human readable
> state
> 
> Edit
> I managed to show time and date
> 
> 37156
> 
> see line 896

The cupsd is a midnight tidy up not related to usb disconnect



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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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pkfox wrote: 
> I think dmesg type messages mean a lot more to you than me :-)
> 
> 37155

Looks like a print related issue just before the usb disconnect 
/sbin/cupsd is the print service I think



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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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pkfox wrote: 
> I will thanks - if it consistently didn't work I would understand it
> better, but it works 99.99% od the time and it sounds incredible , it's
> very frustrating - once again thanks for your efforts - whats the markup
> to post a hyperlink on here ?

Just copy and paste url directly



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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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pkfox wrote: 
> It allows you to send the data via BNC to the MScaler
> 
> Edit
> To help you more with your analysis my playing session started about
> 20:00 on Friday and ended about 23:15 - I do appreciate your efforts
> here

pkfox wrote: 
> Allegedly it implicitly disables the USB input of the MScaler thus
> reducing noise, it also allows you to use a BNC cable to reduce the
> significant RF noise generated by the MScaler
> one of these
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > https://www.wavehighfidelity.com/storm-1/wave-storm-bnc-cable
  > 

> > 
> sorry I don't know how to post hyperlinks on here

I can see the benefit in connecting the mscaler to the Dave by bnc to
enable upsampling and the RF noise issue generated by the mscaler but my
quick read of mscaler manual does not indicate any benefit on the input
side. It say “computer via USB or CD transport via bnc”

>From what bpa has discovered Alsa loses sight of the sbc-xd. What not
try the mscaler connected to NUC directly via USB.



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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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pkfox wrote: 
> It allows you to send the data via BNC to the Mscaler

But what does that supposed to gain you over direct USB?



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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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I’ve just had a look at your signal path in your signature.

What is gained by the sbc-dx -> bnc-> part? Why not USB -> Chord Hugo
direct?
If I understand correctly you are delivering 16/44.1 FLAC to the Hugo
for upsampling to your Dave? I can’t see what the sbc-dx does to improve
things - it just converts to BNC doesn’t it?



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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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Does the NUC have analog audio out?
You could try that which might eliminate Squeezelite as the issue and
then try a USB DAC if you have one. If that has issues it would point to
a USB issue - perhaps losing power for a microsecond or similar. If a
USB DAC works flawlessly then the issue could well be the sbc-dx device.



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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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pkfox wrote: 
> I don't have USB2, and in my case the USB from the NUC feeds a src-dx

It still draws power over USB though doesn’t it?



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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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slartibartfast wrote: 
> I think the counterbalance was a vinyl turntable joke [emoji2]. As far
> as I know USB2 is always recommended for DACS but I don't know why. 
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

You are correct about the turntable.

So it’s not my imagination you have also seen advice about not using
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Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback

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pkfox wrote: 
> Spoke too soon - decent length playing session last night and it's still
> happening

I can’t resist saying - is the counterbalance properly adjusted?

Seriously. Are these USB 3 ports? I saw somewhere that the perceived
wisdom is to not use USB 3 for Audio DACs but instead use USB 1 or 2. 
The Pi 4 has both USB 3 (blue) and USB 2 and I’m sure I read a technote
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Re: [slim] Can I use a chromebook to run my LMS ?

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Labarum wrote: 
> I post again to thank everyone yet again for the patience, kindness and
> generosity towards me.
> 
> I am now set up with an energy efficient and very competent LMS
> streaming system running on my very nice second hand Pi4, courtesy of a
> forum member.
> 
> Half my CDs I ripped 20 years ago and the remaining half I have just
> done with EAC. The free metadata database performed poorly with my
> esoteric collection of "Classical" CDs most of which are 30 years old,
> but the few dollars for the paid for resource was worth it and found
> most of my needs. A small number of my CDs have deteriorated and would
> not rip - nor would they play well on my CD player.
> 
> I thought I would have about 200 CDs, and I thought they would half fill
> and a bit a 128GB USB flash drive. I was right on both counts. As I
> finished off the project with a backup in two separate locations, to my
> surprise and amusement LMS told me I had exactly 200 albums in my
> collection.
> 
> There are some tagging issues I must address when I find the energy.
> 
> You will see that as I got to the end of a Boccherini Cello Concert
> "Don't Stop the Music" threw me into a Classical Radio Station from
> Boston.
> 
> All very nifty!
> 
> So thanks to all. 
> 
> 37104

I submit Sir that you are hooked!
You will now spend countless hours in an OCD driven pursuit of the
perfect set of tags and a totally organised library exactly as you want
it. Good luck. Some of us know from experience that it is a very
enjoyable and quite rewarding but ultimately impossible exercise.



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Re: [slim] Network Topology...

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Get rid of that static route you created. It’s not needed and wrongly
set up anyway.



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Re: [slim] Network Topology...

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I think the Fritzbox may have a "wireless client isolation" setting
which makes it impossible for wireless clients to see either each other
or anything else on the network - is this switched on by default?
You'd typically use this facility in a Guest WiFi scenario.



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Re: [slim] Comparisons between current (2022) streaming service integrations?

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I have Spotify and Qobuz. 
Spotify has slightly more content but is of course ham strung at
320kbps. Spotty is probably the best integration. 
But I use Qobuz much much more and I’m probably dropping Spotify. 
I have Qobuz at HD. The integration is a close second to Spotty and the
Qobuz library is pretty good these days.
I’ve tried both Tidal and Deezer in the past but chose Qobuz for its HD
content even though logic tells me my ears can’t hear any difference
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[slim] Neil Young at it again

[d6jg]

Good for him I say

Spotify removes Neil Young after he calls for Joe Rogan to go
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60149951



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Re: [slim] Lms

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Labarum wrote: 
> Thanks Jim.
> 
> I have such a raggy database I wonder if I could live long enough to get
> it all sorted!
> 
> I have, however, make some progress this afternoon having run Samba on
> PiCorePlayer and worked out how to use Samba on my Chromebook, which is,
> of course, a locked down Linux box.
> 
> Getting Samba to work on my old Windows PC has for now beaten me, but it
> is of no consequence as I can see the relevant files from the same
> Chromebook I use as an LMS controller.
> 
> It's a steep learning curve for me!
> 
> I must find the energy to rip the rest of my CD collection. As I was
> moving around in the Army the crystal cases were binned years ago in
> favour of a very large DJs ring binder.
> 
> 36931

In Windows it’s \\ipaddress in the location bar in File Explorer
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Re: [slim] Lms

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Cover Art
Sorry if you know this but feel it is important to mention how LMS deals
with cover art and the order it uses to decide what to display

If album art is embedded in files it will use the embedded art from the
FIRST track file it finds within a folder - having different cover art
in different files is therefore a redundant exercise.
If no embedded art is found LMS looks for the existence of folder.jpg or
cover.jpg within the album folder and uses that.
Competent rippers such as dbPoweramp can be set up in such a way as to
not create embedded art in FLACs but instead to always create
folder.jpg

A useful online resource for high quality artwork is
albumartexchange.com - account required but free.

Amongst other things MAI can look up and display Artist images. If you
want that - it looks superb in Material - then you can designate a
specific artist artwork folder. MAI will then scan for artist images and
place them into this folder. Usefully if it can't find an image it will
also create a 0 byte file called "exact artist name.missing". You can
use then manually populate with an image of your choice by finding a
.jpg or .png of said arist and renaming it "exact artist name".jpg and
delete the .missing file accordingly.



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Re: [slim] Spotify to offer Lossless Streaming

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pablolie wrote: 
> 36883
> 
> My LMS shows high rez with Spotty, too... :-D

That’s just LMS transcoding 320kbps Ogg Vorbis to PCM for your
particular player. Not High Res at all I’m afraid


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Re: [slim] Lms

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mherger wrote: 
> > What is best to use for LMS, windows, unraid, proxmox or truenas?
> 
> TrueNAS is BSD based. Not easiest either.
> 
> I'd say... piCorePlayer on a Pi :-)

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Re: [slim] Lms

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Probably not Windows



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Re: [slim] Rational Lounge Integration of LMS and TV Audio

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Labarum wrote: 
> Surely that would require two DACs?
> 
> On the back of the Beresford DAC there are two pairs of RCA output
> sockets labelled fixed and variable, but both output the same analogue
> output from the one (stereo) DAC. The output signal is always available
> on the fixed pair; but on the variable pair (the other side of the
> volume control) the signal is muted when headphones are plugged in.
> (Beresford DACs 7510 ane 7520 work like this, later models don't.)
> 
> The fixed output goes to the integrated amp which has its own volume
> control. The headphones are always plugged in. If I want to listen to
> the TV through the HiFi speakers I turn the amp on. Whether it is on or
> off the phones are working, and the volume control on the DAC sets their
> level.
> 
> The TV is set to output to the internal speakers and the optical socket
> simultaneously, but the volume on the TV remote is set to zero all the
> time.
> 
> If one person wanted to listen to the TV and the other in the room
> wanted to listen to music on headphones, the TV remote volume could be
> turned up and the amp left off. It never happens in our house!
> 
> That is as close as I can get to what I think you want.
> 
> An older TV might have an analogue line out (on RCA sockets or on a
> SCART) which could be routed to another input on the HiFi Amplifier, and
> selected on the Amp. I could do that with my last TV. That would achieve
> what you ask.
> 
> This adaptor may pull analogue audio (R+L) from the SACRT of an older
> telly
> 
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154754995742?hash=item24081dd61e:g:fLsAAOSwxKxeXLCH
> 
> I say may because SCART wiring is a black art. I got a soldering iron
> out and made my own cable!

That isn’t why I asked. I wondered what the use case was.
I have my TV wired into an AVR which also has a Pi plugged into it and
quite often I listen to music on headphones while Swmbo watches TV but I
use an iPhone with iPeng controlled by Material and an Audioquest
Dragonfly to listen. It lets me move around but still gives me HiFi
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Re: [slim] Rational Lounge Integration of LMS and TV Audio

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Is the headphone out on your Beresford DAC independent of the main line
out? Can you listen to the Chrome dongle while someone else watches TV
with sound via your hifi?



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Re: [slim] Rational Lounge Integration of LMS and TV Audio

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I should add that I think this DAC easily outperforms the Chrome Audio
but you do definitely need to increase its output level to match other
components



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Re: [slim] Rational Lounge Integration of LMS and TV Audio

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On one of my Pi’s I use one of these which has the 3.5mm/Optical you are
talking about.

I did have to adjust the volume up a bit using alsamixer and then saving
the resultant settings. There is a thread somewhere that explains how.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hifime-Sabre-9018-USB-DAC/dp/B01B16X7WY

There is also a cheaper version available



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Re: [slim] Airplay basic question

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Shairtunes is built into pCP but has to be enabled 

Tweaks - at the bottom under Audio Tweaks



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Re: [slim] Updated to DSM to 7 Can no longer access music!!!!

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mherger wrote: 
> >> The share name in the pCP mount section should be /volume1/MUSIC.
> > 
> > I disagree. I think it should just be /MUSIC without the trailing
> slash
> > 
> > In Windows smb terms you'd connect to \\NAS-IP\MUSIC not Volume 1 at
> all
> > as it isn't part of the share name
> 
> This is neither Windows nor SMB :-). I only wrote what I've been using 
> successfully for a few years now.

I was just illustrting that "Volume1" wouldn't normally be part of the
Share name

My pCP NFS mount (albeit to a Qnap) looks like this - no trailing slash

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Re: [slim] Updated to DSM to 7 Can no longer access music!!!!

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mherger wrote: 
> The share name in the pCP mount section should be /volume1/MUSIC.

I disagree. I think it should just be /MUSIC without the trailing slash

In Windows smb terms you'd connect to \\NAS-IP\MUSIC not Volume 1 at all
as it isn't part of the share name



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Re: [slim] Updated to DSM to 7 Can no longer access music!!!!

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This bit is wrong. It should say MUSIC as that is what you have called
the share on NAS

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Re: [slim] Rational Lounge Integration of LMS and TV Audio

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Labarum wrote: 
> There are (or were) DACs for small studio use that had an independent
> Headphone circuit for monitoring purposes. I'll have a look sometime. No
> rush, I am content with what I presently have. My Sennheiser HD25
> headphones are crystal clear.
> 
> I would however like to turn the old PC off - I could run LMS on my
> wife's Windows laptop which is on 24/7. I'm not proud!

Start with a Pi4 as server then with a suitable USB3 HD but the
consensus is that as a server it should be connected via LAN. It is
technically possible to run on WiFi but not advised.
Running on Windows just isn’t as stable.



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Re: [slim] Rational Lounge Integration of LMS and TV Audio

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Labarum wrote: 
> Agreed. The latest Beresford DACs have lost the functionality I value.
> The older ones have fixed and variable line outs, so the variable output
> drives the headphones and the fixed goes to the Quad 77 Integrated Amp
> with its own volume control.
> 
> The required functionality could be restored by deploying a separate
> headphone amp with its own volume control. A passive splitter from the
> DAC could send the analogue output to phones and amp at the same time. I
> have not looked, but there could well be headphone amps with pass
> through.
> 
> Where there's a will . . .

The Audiolab M-DAC would do it but it’s overpriced for your requirement
and not something you’d hide behind the TV. Very flexible though.

The latest version of the Khadas Tone Board I mentioned earlier would be
perfect if it had optical instead of coax. It has the necessary
headphone amp stage plus USB in (for Pi) and coax.



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Re: [slim] Rational Lounge Integration of LMS and TV Audio

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Labarum wrote: 
> Thankyou d6jg. You accurately describe my system as I described it in my
> OP and subsequent posts.
> 
> I have three Chromecast Dongles on the network. Castbridge automatically
> found and registered all of them. They become virtual Squeezeboxes
> thanks to the brilliance of the Castbridge Plugin. Of course they do not
> have a screen, but neither did the early Squeezebox Receiver. I control
> my whole system from the web interface in the browser in the Chromebook
> on which I am now typing. I could do the same from my Android Phone or
> Tablet.
> 
> https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Receiver.html
> 
> Castbridge is superbly competent. To my surprise it recognises my
> Chromecast Video Dongle (I have two Audio and one Video Chromecasts),
> and when I send audio to the video dongle the TV bursts into life and
> the Album Art and track details are displayed on the screen as the music
> plays. (Once I change channel on the DAC!) If you look at the pictures
> higher up this thread you can see the TV displaying Logitech Media
> output data.
> 
> I have only one true Squeezebox - a Boom - my SB3 was stolen.
> 
> I note there are various ways to create virtual Squeezeboxes and one of
> the most interesting is perhaps the PloyVestion products
> 
> https://polyvection.com/en/
> 
> which tempt me.
> 
> PS Now who can tell me why the top line of the TV shown above says
> "Default Media Player" when the adjacent Chromecast Audio Dongle is set
> as the Default player?Philippe?

I have one of each Polyvection device. The Digi32 is a beta test
version. Both it and the Dac32 are very capable devices and surprisingly
good but I’m not sure if you’d hear any upgrade if you used the Digi32
with your existing DAC. Your big issue isn’t really the player device
it’s the functionality of your DAC which may be difficult to replace.



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Re: [slim] Rational Lounge Integration of LMS and TV Audio

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cliveb wrote: 
> If you've got a decent DAC with multiple inputs, why not just feed the
> output of your Squeezebox player into one input and the TV into another?
> Most modern TVs have an optical output.
> 
> I don't really understand why any Chromecast devices need to be involved
> - can you explain their purpose?

The OPs DAC has 2 x Optical in with headphone amp and RCA to his amp.
The Chromecast is in use with the Castbridge plugin and uses one of the
optical in. TV uses other.
Not sure how the switching operates



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Re: [slim] Rational Lounge Integration of LMS and TV Audio

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The weakest component in your setup is the Chrome Audio. It’s ok but the
DAC chip isn’t the best but I assume you are using its optical out.
Is there Ethernet behind your TV? If so I’d get a Pi4 and set it up as a
server and client. As regards the choice of DAC or Digi out I think it
depends upon just how good the Beresford is and whether your amp has a
suitable input for the TV sound.
I run a Pi4 coupled with a Khadas USB Tone Board in my Living Room. The
Khadas was about £100 with case and is quite highly rated in reviews but
my TV audio is dealt with via hdmi arc.
What input types are available on your amp?



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Re: [slim] Which factors determine streams served to different geographical locations?

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beneix wrote: 
> Thanks both. I have been meaning to try out some rerouting of certain
> traffic (either by source LAN IP, or by target URL) to go over a VPN
> tunnel to see if this can improve my radio experience :) . Since each
> tunnel can only go to one geograhy, ideally I would like to avoid
> rerouting all traffic from one client and instead use the target URLs to
> determine the routing. The trick will then be to determine if it is
> enough to route the service's own URLs (e.g. bbc.co.uk, bbci.co.uk...)
> or if also the CDN URLs need rerouting. If it is the latter, that could
> prove problematic for other services. When I get some spare time to set
> everything up, I will experiment.

It will need all the CDN IPs to work.
If you can send ALL traffic from your LMS server down the VPN (which may
be possible if you use a separate VPN router eg a Pi and make that the
LMS gateway) then it may be straightforward.
I have a friend in the South of France who has a site to site VPN to his
office in London.
Everything from France is routed via London and as a result he can get
full UK services eg BBC. This is his private VPN so isn’t detected like
one of the popular VPN services may be.



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Re: [slim] Which factors determine streams served to different geographical locations?

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As Michael says it is predominantly IP based but it’s not always
accurate as some ISPs have traded IP ranges across geographic boundaries
to meet demand. Not all firewall manufacturers - where the allow or
block takes place - have properly kept up with the range movements. Then
there are the private VPN services where the rights holders try to keep
up with their particular IP ranges and seek to block them accordingly.



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Re: [slim] Can Amazon Music cast to Transporter?

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There is the ShareTunes plugin that will announce any SB device as an
AirPlay speaker but it is only 16/44.1 and you’d need to be using a Mac
or an iOS device for Amazon Music.



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Re: [slim] Register your appreciation .....

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Done. Thanks for reminding me about my reminder



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Re: [slim] Choppy playback on certain FLAC tracks to Squeezebox Classic (squeezebox2)

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StewLG wrote: 
> 
> It makes me sad there is no contemporary equivalent to the Squeezebox
> Classic available to purchase.

There is the Dac32 or Digi32 available from Polyvection although neither
has a screen and can only be controlled from PC or Smartphone i.e. no
remote but sound wise they are superior



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Re: [slim] Sync Options for a live DJ

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Paul Webster wrote: 
> I have a turntable in the lounge that is connected to a RPi ... I can
> start it playing and then get to the kitchen to hear, over another SB
> player, the needle drop.

First couple of times that happens it's a bit weird isn't it.
I frequently use my Turntable to LMS rig with iPeng and a pair of
headphones to wander around the house. Bluetooth from the Living Room
doesn't quite reach the kitchen but WiFi does!!



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Re: [slim] Sync Options for a live DJ

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Yes. Low number of seconds. People often post about using LMS to do
multi-room audio from TV. It just can't be done without unacceptable
latency.

I have a Pi that takes the audio from my turntable in Living Room and
sends it via Liquidsoap to an instance of Icecast2 which LMS (on another
Pi) tunes in to. It has about 5 seconds latency but as ALL audio is
listened to via LMS it is fine. 

If I had said turntable also plugged in to an amp with speakers - like
your Lounge DJ setup - then the audio in my Living Room would be 5
seconds ahead of that played via LMS.



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Re: [slim] Sync Options for a live DJ

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malpeli wrote: 
> Alright gotta post-covid19 vaxxed and neg tested party going on at my
> humble abode this weekend and have a puzzle to solve.
> 
> I have enlisted the skills of three DJs to mix for us, one in my lounge
> room, one in a shed in Melbourne, and one in his sound laboratory in
> Singapore. These last two locations will be streaming in via Twitch
> which is a whole other pain in the proverbial but the one I have to get
> right is the lounge DJ desk.
> 
> My set up:
> (All instances are connected via ethernet unless otherwise indicated)
> Server: Picoreplayer on Raspberry Pi 3b+
> Players: Logitech Squeezebox Touch (Lounge), Duet (backyard),
> Squeezelite on Android TV box to JBL Clip via Bluetooth (bathroom)
> 
> DJ Console
> Macbook Pro running either Ableton live 11 or Pioneer Recordbox through
> a Scarlett 2i4 2nd Gen twin pre-amp soundcard output to one pair of
> Yamaha MSP5 STUDIO Powered Studio Monitor Speakers
> 
> The squeezeboxes are on an isolated router and switch leaving guests to
> gain wifi access on my mesh wifi, so if need be I can tweak settings as
> well as output/input Twitch streams as and when needed.
> 
> The most important part of this project though is getting the Squeezebox
> server to take the intranet stream from the Macbook to feed the three
> in-sync squeezebox receivers. The rest I can fudge.
> 
> Any bright ideas, ladies and gentlemen (and those who lieth betweenst)?

Latency may be an issue but you could try VLC on the mac generating a
stream and "tune in" on LMS as if it were a radio station

https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Streaming_HowTo/Easy_Streaming/

Alternatively you could try the WAVIN Plugin but again there may be too
much latency - less than with VLC though



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Re: [slim] Is LMS on Pi 4 faster to load up from cold than LMS on Pi 3?

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mandryka wrote: 
> Is LMS on Pi4 faster to fire up from cold than LMS on Pi 3? And if so,
> by how much?

Not much in it but if you are talking LMS only no player then a Core32
boots very very quickly



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Re: [slim] Mini windows 10 pc - any recommendations

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castalla wrote: 
> I'm considering a windows 10 mini Pc to run headless 24/7. 
> 
> Don't need anything super powerful.
> 
> Any candidates?

Why Windows 10? Why not a Linux based machine - generally far more
reliable for LMS only - it could be a Pi with pCP



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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

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Currently an issue where we have left channel only. Someone has knocked
a wire. Should be resolved shortly



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*Dining Room* SB Radio
*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
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Re: [slim] pCP Noticeably Slower and Auto Restart Fails

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scslite wrote: 
> Well sort of.  Logs showed my NFS disk was failing to mount.  So not
> sure why the heck it's not mounting.  
> 
> Unchecked this and LMS and Squeezelite is auto restarting again.  
> 
> So have to now figure out what the problem is with my NAS.

Running LMS on WiFi isn't recommended.
Running LMS on WifFi with an NFS mount to a NAS even less so.
If there is any delay in WiFi connection the mount is likely to fail. I
doubt there is anything wrong with your NAS - it will all be network
related.



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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

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Heuer wrote: 
> Don't think Replay Gain is the issue as it has been applied to all
> tracks in my local library without problem. Maybe it is the needle
> drops? What did you use for the analogue > digitising chain?

It’s not the needle drop. It’s the fact that the playout mechanism
currently goes from digital to analogue before being encoded into the
digital streams. The analogue out is a Pi while the analogue input is a
bog standard Realtek sound card. This is the weak point of the whole
delivery mechanism and is more than likely where the flatness is
introduced.
This will be replaced by a digital only delivery in due course but the
previous digital only incarnation on a VM had the noise interference.



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*Dining Room* SB Radio
*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

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ModelCitizen wrote: 
> You asked about sound quality.
> 
> I've just spent an hour or so playing the flac stream and comparing the
> tracks with my local versions.
> 
> I was using:
> Naim NDX streamer (LMS via UPnP)
> Recently serviced Naim olives and Shahinian Arc speakers
> 
> I realise that this is going to be a bit inconclusive but thought it
> worth posting.
> 
> Two reasons for it being inconclusive:
> 1) My own versions of the tracks consisted of MFSL remasters, PBThal
> 24-96 needle drops and ripped CDs
> 2) I don't generally listen to radio on this system (even tidal) because
> the sound quality is always less impressive than playing local files.
> 
> Observations:
> 
> The stream played flawlessly.
> There was no album art (Material skin on Android mobile and Squeezebox
> Touch controller)
> The sound was a fair bit quieter than any of my local files and a little
> quieter than the radio stations I (quickly) tested it against
> In comparison to my local files the sound was flat, set back, bland and
> lacked presence.
> 
> The best sound comparison would probably be against the PBThal 24-96
> vinyl rips as these are needle drops (like Juke radio tracks?) from
> excellent equipment (and personally I suspect the 24-96 encoding adds
> little). 
> Adjusting for volume difference I tried three of these against the
> tracks played on the radio station and the above still applied, the
> radio sound was flat, set back, bland and lacked presence. This
> difference marked, not subtle.
> 
> But as I say radio generally seems like that when compared to local
> files, even normal Tidal files.
> 
> Can I ask, do you use any volume levelling (i.e. replay gain etc)?
> 
> Anyway, I enjoyed the music so thanks. I'd be very interested to hear
> some more modern electronic music and try a sound quality comparison

Heuer wrote: 
> I have been comparing JR with Radio Paradise and Radio Blues on my
> office system (DAC32 > AE1 Actives) and I am finding the sound somewhat
> compressed and flat. The soundstage seems to be behind the speakers and
> there is a lack of bass compared to the other two streams, both of which
> are very good indeed. Same on our kitchen system (Touch>E30>Arcam
> Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub).
> 
> Not compared the SQ to my local music as yet.

Yes there is Replay Gain in play.
On the SQ being flatter than local FLACs - part of the audio chain as it
stands is digital to analogue then back to digital. This is the current
situation due to a number of reasons and it’s not going to be the case
long term - which is why I know the SQ can be easily improved.
About 40% of the stuff played is from needle drops at 16/44.1.
On the 50-60 second out of sync cover art up date. At present Paul’s
Radio Now Playing has no means of “timing” the tracks because we don’t
currently provide it. This will be changed in due course so in future
changes will be more accurate.
NB to get cover art you need the Radio Now Playing plugin.



Jim
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*Dining Room* SB Radio
*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s +
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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

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The new hardware has been live for getting in for 36 hours and I’ve
obviously been monitoring what’s going on. I’m really pleased with the
SQ especially as I know that it would be easy to improve it a little
further but as far as I am concerned the FLAC stream sounds pretty damn
good with zero burps during my monitoring.

I have been surprised how good it sounds on my Kitchen Echo Show using
Phil’s Alexa skill.

I’ve kept an eye on listener levels and I know that a number of people
have popped in and out. We could really now do with some feedback on the
SQ as listeners hear it if people have any.



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*Dining Room* SB Radio
*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s +
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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

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ian_heys wrote: 
> Listening this morning on Paul's Radio Now Playing plugin.
> 
> Sounds (and looks) good.
> 
> Will give it a couple of hours from time to time and post if I find any
> problems

Can't remember whether it was you or someone else who commented on the
volume level - but it has been boosted up to try to match other stations



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*Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s 
*Dining Room* SB Radio
*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s +
Kef ceiling speakers
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Re: [slim] Coverart in Music Folder

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Frapicore wrote: 
> Dear Community,
> 
> Please could you advice if there is a way to see the cover picture in
> the folder when I navigate my music using "Music Folder"?
> 
> Furthermore do you know if it is possible to change view order of the
> files by showing first the folder in alphanumeric order and followed by
> single files in alphanumeric order? 
> 
> It could really help my navigation experience, in fact I am using a lot
> "Music Folder".
> 
> My apologies if it is an old question, but I was not able to find
> something which could help me in the forum. 
> 
> Thanks!!

Why do you use Music Folder? There are reasons to use it but if you can
explain why it may help someone understand your issue more clearly.
If you used Artists or Albums or New Music you'd see exactly what you
are asking for.



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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

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Apologies for the interruptions that have occurred recently but I am now
pleased to report that the new hardware I'd been promising is installed,
configured and now live. Early signs are that this seems to have
eradicated the burping noise interference that we were seeing which was
why the hardware change was needed. Implementation was delayed due to
access issues to the data centre and paid work getting in the way.

At the same time we have also made some background changes to our code
to make things more efficient from a server memory perspective. These
changes have been done in such a way as to make no difference to the
Paul's Radio Now Playing plugin or to Phil's beta Alexa skill (more
testers of this needed).

Juke is still in test mode - playlist remains in a semi-auto mode - but
we will now be able to start serious work on our playlist programming.

Please re-visit and let us know if you find issues. We can currently
accommodate 100 listeners at a time (theoretically unlimited when we go
fully live).

The auto playlist remains Rock, Jazz, Soul & Blues based.

Thanks



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*Dining Room* SB Radio
*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
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Re: [slim] VU-meter

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The VU meter screensaver is available via JiveLite or SqueezePlay but
two caveats
1. Although both can be installed on Windows I don’t think you’ll get
them full screen
2. The VU meter is only available when the device is a player. You
cannot control another player and get a VU meter.



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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

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Juke will be off air for a while today as I'm putting new hardware into
the data centre.



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*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
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Re: [slim] Testers wanted

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philchillbill wrote: 
> It's rather quiet here. Any status update for us, Jim?

New hardware ready and waiting to go to data centre but delayed by 1)
paid work, 2) UK petrol crisis 3) paid work again. Hopefully I’ll find
time next week.



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*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s +
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