Re: [slim] Why sqeezebox
bobm;470884 Wrote: Why/how is the Squeezebox different? A big part of my decision was the open-source server software. I don't see any other competitor with a similar back end on their product, or as diverse or devoted a community assisting in its maintenance and support. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox for kids play room
sderuiter;468931 Wrote: Currently refurnishing the kids play room for our three childeren (5,3 and 1). I want to have a Squeezebox in the room for them to play music on. What would be the Squeezebox that's most suitable for children of that age (let's say 5)? We currently own a Boom, Radio and Receiver and use iPeng on a Ipod Touch and iPhone to control the system. Squeezecenter is on a ReadyNAS NV. The Squeezeboxen you already have represents almost the complete breadth of functionality in the line: you have units with and without speakers, with and without displays, and with and without touchscreens. So you can definitely let your current experiences with that variety of devices inform your decision. To me the question is how you want the kids to interact with the system. There's no question that having a self-contained system is very convenient, but if *you* are going to be their DJ and don't want them messing about with the equipment, then all you need is another Receiver and some inexpensive powered speakers like you would buy for a computer. If you're wanting them to interact with it I would would vote for a Boom or a Radio as opposed to a Touch so you can get the built-in speakers. The decision between a Boom or a Radio for a kids room I think comes down to the color screen rather than mono vs. stereo, and I would opt for the radio specifically so that you can upload family pictures to Flickr and have those scrolling for their amusement. The nice thing about either of those units if they're going to interact is that it has those great preset buttons so you can program some stuff in there like a random playlist of kids music from your library and a some kids internet radio, etc. And then again, you could get a Boom or a Radio and put it on a high shelf for now, waiting for the one year old to get a little older before they all can be touching it ;) -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69388 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezePlay 7.41 Problems: Synch, Volume
arztde;468322 Wrote: that there is no more a player inside the server did shock me more than the multi bugs inside the 7.4 release. Agreed. And for me at least, after separately downloading SqueezePlay 7.4, I can't even get it to work and sent an e-mail to support. I hope they reconsider not including a software player right with the server. I know that I'm not alone in that Slimsever and stream.mp3 was my introduction to the SlimDevices family: I was specifically looking for a way to catalog my music and stream it from home to work. I later started using SoftSqueeze and only after doing that for a couple of years did I buy my first Squeezebox. I do not think I would have spent nearly a grand with Slim/Logitech without SoftSqueeze to show me what I was missing. Squeezeplay serves the same purpose with the new visuals. They're making a mistake when they don't include it in the server. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Facebook App - what's the point?
andyg;467388 Wrote: Facebook asked us to remove support for multiple accounts, sorry. :( Can apps be made player-specific instead of global for all players connecting to a single mysqueezebox account? Or actually how about this: I have three squeezeboxes in the house. Can each one of those have separate mysqueezebox accounts (and thus separate app settings), but still connect to one local server? Speaking in the abstract regarding social networks, in a multi-member household you're going to have multiple social network accounts. In my house we have three FB users and two Flickr users, each with their own set of contacts and shared items. While I think it would be lovely to have multiple accounts on one player, I should at least be able to make the player most often used by my wife display her Facebook and Flickr stuff while the player most used by me displays my Facebook and Flickr stuff. Also regarding what's the point?, I second 'ddewey' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=467679postcount=17) and his sentiment that if you're an active Facebook user then you like this function and if you're not then it is of no use to you. Recognize that FB has more than '300 million active users' (http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics), and they are accustomed to being able to interact with FB from all kinds of devices from their phones to their XBoxes. It's a natural fit when you have a display screen. Indeed even with my SB3, the first news feed in my RSS screen saver is the status of my facebook friends. And note to Andy: the second feed is my wife's friends and the third is my son's friends. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69234 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Facebook App - what's the point?
toby10;468532 Wrote: Yes, on MySB.com each App is installed on any/all registered players. But within each App's configure screen is a simple pull down menu next to each player to Enable or Disable per player. Rather than enable or disable a single-credentialed app what I'm looking for is that each player could use the app with its own credentials. The Last.fm Audioscrobbler is a perfect, already-existing example of this within the Squeezebox sever: you *can* use one set of credentials for all players, but you can also have each player scrobble to a different account (which is what how we use it in my family) -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69234 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FCC reveals Logitech Squeezebox Radio
upstatemike;451228 Wrote: The setup is the main thing... in your case what happens if you change your network configuration? Do you buy another controller so you can change the settings on your reciever and then sell that controller on Ebay as well? Agreed. I thought the strategy in the grandparent post was brilliant but it's definitely flawed in that sense. Look, everyone needs to vote for 'bug #7502' (https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7502), which explicitly requests that the Receiver handle static IPs and implicitly (in the comments) requests that the Receiver be entirely configurable without the Controller. We have a way to make our voice heard in this, but we have to use it. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linksys by Cisco launches direct competitors to Squeezebox products
Reading the new Sound and Vision I found out that Linksys by Cisco has released several new product that are direct (albeit uniformly more expensive) competitors for the Squeezebox line 'DMC 250, the Director' (http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/DMC250), equivalent to the Squeezebox Classic, except that it has an integrated amplifier so you can add speakers and make it into a Squeezebox Boom, for 449.99. 'DMP 100, The Player' (http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/DMP100), equivalent to the Squeezebox Receiver, for 299.99. 'DMRW 1000, The Controller' (http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/DMRW1000), equivalent to the Squeezebox Controller, for 349.99 'DMC 350, The Condctor' (http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/DMC350), equivalent to nothing in the Squeezebox line, in that it is like a Touchscreen Boom with a built-in CD player, for 699.99 They also offer packages like 'The Premier Bundle' (http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/KWHA700) where you get a Director, Receiver and Controller for 999.99 While there are certainly differences (Windows only on the backend, higher priced), to a regular consumer I think they would see the new Linksys products and the Squeezebox products as direct competitors...with the added bonus in the Linksys that you can 'dock your ipod' (http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/MCCI40) for 79.99 and then control it like the rest of the system, and (unlike the Boom's line-in), have it available as a source to any of the zones. I'm firmly entrenched in the Squeezebox family (and happily so, except for the Receiver requiring a Controller), but I thought this was interesting and thought I'd post it here. I'm actually disappointed with Sound and Vision (something that is happening more and more often) because in their review they never mentioned Squeezebox...they only talked about the Linksys products being cheaper alternatives to Sonos. +---+ |Filename: hero_rhapsody,0.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8011| +---+ -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67094 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Podcatcher for Squeezecenter?
jartill;438416 Wrote: Would anyone else find an embedded podcatcher in Squeezecenter useful? Are there any out there? Surprised this hasn't been done by someone so far... I am a huge podcast fan but don't know that this would be a useful feature. For listening to podcasts on the Squeezebox, the included podcasts plugin does a great job (except for not being able to reorder them, see 'bug 7438' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7438)). If you want to actually download them as opposed to stream them, you're probably doing that to listen to them on your portable device and will be best served by the media manager that came with your portable, or 'Songbird' (http://www.getsongbird.com/). Or if you're already running a linux server, 'Bashpodder' (http://lincgeek.org/bashpodder/). -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Implementation Needs Improvement
ajkidle;425069 Wrote: My point here is that Logitech should be doing more, and on two fronts: Squeezebox users need to do more too: call Rhapsody. My Rhapsody performance has been reasonable lately when I've used it, but a couple of times when I experienced multi-day problems (including once when I planned on using Rhapsody to provide entertainment at a get-together), I called them and asked for part of that month's service to be refunded. They agreed it was justifiable and refunded part of my monthly fee. I guess I'm saying that posting here is 100% appropriate, but it's also equally appropriate to call Rhapsody so they also know that their customers are having an issue. And in my experience they are open to that. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
sander;411762 Wrote: To be honest though, Squeezecenter 7.3.2 is good enough for me that if MusicIP integration became an issue I just wouldn't upgrade any more. I can live within the limitations and minor irritations of the current system for a long time, and MusicIp has become that important to me. This news of Wendell and MusicIP definitely saddens me, and I just wanted to DEEPLY second the sentiment of the above paragraph. MusicIP is the #1 way that me and my family interact with our Squeezeboxen. We have a very large library with everything from hip-hop to classical and a lot of Frank Zappa, and it makes fantastic mixes for us. And of course its filtering functions keep the Zappa out of my wife's mixes and the George Michael out of mine. If an update broke MusicIP compatibility, I would not install that update. So yes, MusicIP, please keep your product going, and Logitech, please keep it deeply integrated with SqueezeCenter. I love the idea of Logitech taking on MusicIP development, too! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Easier way to sync?
peterw;402783 Wrote: For SyncOptions, I definitely recommend default sync rather than attempt mid-song sync if you're running SC 7.3 or newer. I really need to look at the code make the two equivalent for SC 7.3+. In the settings for the plugin it says Wait behavior. When syncing with a player that is playing a local song, whether to sync and restart the song (Default) Am I understanding correctly that what happened is that 7.3+ actually does the mid-song sync by default, that the default has changed in SqueezeCenter but the settings text of the plugin hasn't changed yet? If so, is there a need for the SyncOptions plugin anymore? I think I may have just found it too late! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Easier way to sync?
peterw;400092 Wrote: Do you have SyncOptions configured for default mid-track sync? Most folks with SqueezeCenter 7.3 and later prefer default mid-track syncing. I don't see such an option. It says Wait behavior. When syncing with a player that is playing a local song, whether to sync and restart the song (Default), wait for the next track to start, or attempt to sync mid-song. Wait for next track will allow you to press a button on the remote control to force immediate sync or attempt mid-song sync So the default is to sync and restart. I switched it to attempt to sync mid-song. What actually happened was that the players synched and the playlist *stopped*. So I don't know if there's a conflict between The Synchronizer and Sync Options plugins, or between one or both of those and the latest version of SqueezeCenter or what. I guess I will experiment some more; I do love the Synchronizer, it is really providing what I was looking for (getting Sync more accessible in the menus) and also being able to define the groups is very handy, as we have Upstairs, Downstairs and Bedroom (or BedBoom as I named it, nyuk nyuk), and our likely sync combos are to sync all three or to just sync the upstairs and the bedroom. I appreciate the discussion here; does anyone else have any thoughts? -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Easier way to sync?
4mula1;400257 Wrote: Vote for 'Bug 10219' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10219) to be able to have syncronize as a top level menu item. DONE. Thanks! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Easier way to sync?
Thanks to the Circuit City closeout, I now have a third Squeezebox product in the house. While we're loving it, something that was a little troublesome before is now a bigger issue: we'd like an easier way to sync the players together. My first instinct was just to go into the Menus preference for each player and get Sync moved higher in the menu hierarchy. We've done the same thing with Podcasts and Rhapsody, making them just a couple of keypresses away instead of having to go dig them out of Music Services or Extras. Alas, Sync is not available to do that with! So I guess I'm asking, is there a plugin available that will let Sync be at a higher level in the menu? I am going to install the Sync Options plugin, as I really love the idea of being able to change sync mid-song, but I don't know yet if it will do what I'm looking for. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Easier way to sync?
Brian Ritchie;400062 Wrote: I recommend the Synchronizer plugin. It can be used to set up predefined sync groups (with one player defined as the master), and also adds a sync all others to this menu option. I think that will definitely help and am going to try it out right now! It's in the repository at http://www.koldware.com/SlimStuff/repodata.xml ... OK, I just tried it, and HOORAY! It does just what I'm looking for. I set up sync groups and then found that The Synchronizer is available as a menu item, which I've moved nice and high in our menu list. The only drag is that it doesn't seem to work with Sync Options in that I was not able to join a track in progress, it actually stopped the playlist. While that stinks, it's great to be able to switch the syncing so easily. Thanks much for the tip, and thanks to the author of the plugin! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP, Squeezecenter, and audiobooks
MeSue;376515 Wrote: Open the MusicIP mixer desktop application... That's the big thing. If you are running MusicIP Headless on a truly headless system, you're going to have to go the route of putting them in another directories. There are several ways to go about what you want using MusicIP, but at present they all involve using the graphical client (what I did was change the preferences file to exclude the spoken genre from mixes while leaving them in the library.) I'm looking forward to if/when MusicIP goes entirely XML with their config, so the headless version can be adjusted without the GUI. I generally run the headless but fire up the GUI to tweak or create filters and such. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app
tamanaco;354250 Wrote: What I would like to see in the future from SD/Logitech is SqueezePlay ported for use in Smartphones/iPhones, but as mobile player not necessarily as a home remote. (It can work as a remote if you sync it another player at home) With the current generation of 3G phones streaming media from the Internet in large metropolitan areas is a piece of cake. I currently use my Smartphone with PocketPlayer to stream internet radio stations either via ATT 3G network or via WiFi. I got the unlimited data plan for my Treo to give it a try. I enjoyed the heck out of it, it was amazing to listen to internet radio in the car and such. However, I was deeply disappointed in SqueezeCenter's capability to serve music to the device. I always came in from a different IP address, so I was unable to set defaults for the stream. As such, it always came in as unlimited, choking the bandwidth immediately. I considered submitting a feature request that would let you specify the desired stream rate in the url (i.e. http://myserver:9000/stream.mp3?bitrate=96k) to surmount this, but in the end decided to end my unlimited data trial. Nonetheless, I think that Logitech is missing a real opportunity if they don't release an iPhone app (not just a remote but also a player to listen to your collection in the car) AND tweak stream.mp3's functionality so that you can enjoy it more even without an app. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?
orenb;352106 Wrote: My current cards (on-board and SB-Live) typically can't pull it off. Is there a card, preferably an inexpensive one, that can? I've never been able to get them to sync, using a variety of machines over a number of years. They are close, but never spot-on. I don't think it's possible. I just did get a second Squeezebox and was amazed that their sync is perfect, even when using Rhapsody content over-the-internet. Lerch -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54061 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet available at local retail - Circuit City
In the Albany, NY Sunday paper on 10/12/2008, the Circuit City flyer actually had the Duet in the ad! I've never seen that before! $369. Very cool! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?
ezkcdude;333128 Wrote: If the Boom is going for $299, can we expect the price of the SB3 to go down? The SB3 has been '$229 at Amazon.com' (http://snurl.com/amazonsqueeze) for almost a month now...I wonder if they were anticipating this? Nonetheless, great question as to whether the MSRP on the SB3 will go down. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50760 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement: SqueezeCenter 7.1.0 Now Available
hellesangel;331070 Wrote: After a slightly deeper look it seems that running Softsqueeze produces a box that says something like 'This Softsqueeze is optimized for Squeezecenter 7.0 but you're running 7.1, please download a newer Softsqueeze version', I submitted that as a bug and it's being worked on. It's just a version check, you can tell it to ignore that with the checkbox in the dialog, and everything will work fine. I think it's similar to some of the plugins with this last upgrade, that reported they were incompatible not because they actually were, but they had a version check that needed to be adjusted. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50361 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wired or wireless
peter;332248 Wrote: I'd put in another double socket to future-proof things ;) LOL. In all seriousness, just use the single socket you already have, plug a switch into that, and plug however many other ethernet devices you want into your switch! I'm actually doing exactly that, not for hi-fi but because I have a jack that a networked printer is plugged into and am adding a Tivo to that room. Instead of going wireless with the Tivo I'm going to plug the Tivo and the printer into a switch, and the switch into the ethernet jack. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51480 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP - definitive install instructions for 7.1/7.2 (inc. headless)?
ModelCitizen;328526 Wrote: Cheers. So that the single best source for headless MusicIP integration with7.1/7.2 now that SqueezeCenter includes the MusicIP plugin is here: http://spicefly.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=61;. Hasn't MusicIP integration been included in SlimServer/SqueezeCenter for a long time now? I don't remember having to download a plugin in SlimServer 6.x, just checking a box in the Plugins page (i.e. it was already shipped with it). What am I forgetting? HUGE fan of MusicIP w/Squeezecenter, Mike Lerch -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP - definitive install instructions for 7.1/7.2 (inc. headless)?
tamanaco;328631 Wrote: The SugarCube plugin is a complete different animal that uses the functionality of MusicIP to create an endless playlist on the flight. I'm a giant MusicIP fan, and I love this idea. What a great extension of the functionality! Am going to install SugarCube tonight! Only bad thing will be if I fall asleep with it on and it pollutes my scrobbled tracks with stuff I didn't actually listen to ;) This is neat, I can't wait! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Stop the bloatware madness!
pfarrell;326488 Wrote: m1abrams wrote:[color=blue] This whole discussion is silly. A typical PC these days has 2GB. Bloat doesn't matter. I don't run Squeezecenter on a typical PC from these days. For a long time I used a Pentium 4 from 1999 which maxed out at at 450 MB of RAM and ran FreeBSD, now I'm running a Pentium 3 with a little over a gig of RAM with Ubuntu. As we upgrade our machines in the house, the oldest one becomes the media server. I specifically chose Slimserver/Squeezecenter because of its low system requirements, and eventually bought a Squeezebox and would like to get a second one. It might seem silly to some, but if Logitech goes in the direction of requiring a late-model, dedicated computer to be the server, they're going to price themselves out of my market. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50698 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement: SqueezeCenter 7.1.0 Now Available
mvalera;323850 Wrote: The new SqueezeCenter 7.1.0 release is now available... The free Pandora and the new Last.FM support are really quite a big deal. Thanks so much for these enhancements! I'm really looking forward to showing these to the family! Lerch -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50361 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Display Blank When Powered Off - Caused by SqueezeCenter 7.1 Upgrade?
ScottoG51;324189 Wrote: Thanks for your replies. I already had already tried manually changing the screensaver options ... and had ensured that SuperDateTime was working (on my 2nd player and on Softsqueeze). What finally solved my problem was resetting the player #1 preferences back to factory default (using the Player / Basic Settings option) and then re-customising. All looks good now. This happened to me this morning (blank when off) and, while I haven't had the chance to try the .xml fix, I think that's what's going to do it because when I go to my plugins settings, WeatherDateTime says it's not compatible. Interesting that it worked for you and that the reset did the trick! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50402 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Where are the last.fm features?
I don't understand something. I've seen the announcements about new last.fm functionality in SqueezeCenter and am looking forward to it, but I can't find it in my system. Ubuntu isn't prompting me to update from SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0.1 - 19705; is the last.fm stuff in a newer version? All I see is the last.fm audioscrobbler I've had in there since the beginning. I was thinking that maybe I'd used a plug-in (I had used the plug-in scrobbler with Slimserver) but finally checked my plug-in folder over the weekend and didn't see anything. What am I doing wrong? Thanks much for any assistance, feeling like a goof on this one! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50103 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP Rocks!
pippin;320862 Wrote: My little server took about 5 Weeks to analyze my library (four of which I was not at home, so fine...). I had some esoteric stuff there, too (own recordings, audio books) and it took about all of the time for 25% of the library. The other 75% went through within an day. One note about that: before starting your scan, go into the MusicIP preferences and set up some exclusions. For instance, I tell it not to analyze files that contain the word podcast (all my podcasts go into a folder named /mnt/media/music/podcasts so that catches them all). If you have lots of audio or spoken word, I would make sure to tell MusicIP not to analyze them. They'll still be available in the library, but it won't spend the analysis time. Note you can also exclude them from mixes. This is only available in the GUI unfortunately, out of luck if you're only running linux headless. You can run the GUI to make these changes, exit, then start the headless server though, if that's a possibility on your box. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP causes No Album to become Miscellaneous
whicken;309645 Wrote: The beta is only available for Windows at the moment, but we will be doing a linux release in the future. Anyways, if someone could test the Windows version to make sure it's giving correct results with SC, that would be fantastic. I'm in the MusicIP beta program and dutifully download and install them as they are released. However, while I do use a Windows version on my laptop occasionally, the real testing I can offer (especially w/SqueezeCenter integration) only happens once the Linux version finally comes out. Would love to help more! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP Rocks!
mkanet;306702 Wrote: How is it different from Pandora? Pandora actually uses a gigantic database which holds song information about the RPM of the songs, instruments used, style. My only complaint is if you listen to the same station long enough, you start hearing the same songs again. Two things for me: MusicIP runs over my own collection, and MusicIP allows for finer-grain control of the mixes. With that said, I use Pandora (and Last.fm) to discover NEW music (i.e. music not yet in my collection). -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP Rocks!
technojunkie;309692 Wrote: Can anybody please advise what the MusicIP validation process actually does ? Essentially no, because ' it's patented' (http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=PTXTs1=7,013,301.PN.OS=PN/7,013,301RS=PN/7,013,301) (though that does seem to be more about the fingerprinting than the analysis). With that said, I've certainly found that with all the settings at their defaults, if I seed a mix with saxophone-led bebop jazz, I'm going to get a fair amount of saxophone and a fair amount of jazz. If I seed using something with a lot of vocal harmonies, much of the mix will have vocal harmonies. Upbeat seeds generally result in upbeat mixes. I don't know how it does any of this, but it generally does it very well. The mixes it comes up with often remind me of my very favorite FM DJs from my youth, the independent stations where coming up with a flow was an art form. technojunkie;309692 Wrote: I ask because, having tried to finely tune the mix paramaters within SC and the MusicMagicServer I'm still getting some very odd mixes. Does the validation process flag tracks by genre, style of music, feel/mood of music or some other method ? The songs in my library have not been all correctly tagged for genre but I was expecting the MusicIP validation process to log this information. It definitely seems to be music content-related. Though I have noticed that if I pick a live recording that's got a lot of crowd noise, the mix will include other recordings with crowd noise. Usage of the genre tag, which is not analysis related, is a flag you can set (which restricts the mix to the genre of the seed). technojunkie;309692 Wrote: However if, for example, I select a rock ballad as the seed song, I get a lot of songs in the mix that are not by rock artists and certainly not rock ballads or anything similar in style or mood. Am I expecting too much from MusicIp or do I need to do some more fine tuning of the mix settings and, if so, which ones ? It sounds like you want a pretty restrictive mix, so perhaps you should set the Genre flag to Yes to restrict the genre (then you should only get Rock in the above example). In addition, increase the number for Style. The default is 0, which means to ignore the seed style. (Note that style is undefined). For Variety, what I've found is that with a variety of 0, you can create a mix from a seed and get 10 tracks, then immediately create a mix from that same seed and you'll get the exact same tracks again. But if you have Variety set to a higher number, it will vary the mix a little each time you seed with the same track. My default settings are Variety of 2 and style of 20, no genre restriction. With those settings, if I pick a track by Suzanne Vega that's just her and her guitar, I will get a mix that is largely (but not entirely) acoustic-based and will almost exclusively feature female vocals. I hope some of this helps! I love MusicIP mixer. I've said it before: I wouldn't have bought a Squeezebox if it weren't for that program. My whole family interacts with our music collection almost *exclusively* through MusicIP mixes. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Cannot customize the order of Podcasts or RSS
In SlimServer, I was able to rearrange the order of Podcasts or RSS feeds. It was a pain: if I found a new RSS feed I wanted to come first, I had to paste it in the first box, paste what used to be in the first box into the second, second to third, etc. Same with Podcasts. While I am enjoying SqueezeCenter (THANK YOU PEOPLE for the local Rhapsody integration. Not having to go to SqueezeNetwork itself = my family using Squeezebox more and probably getting a 2nd one, mixing Rhapsody and local content in the same playlist is GREAT), it is actually kind of important to me to be able to resequence these and unless I'm missing something, there's no way to do it at all. Should I file a bug/feature request or is this post sufficient? Also, does this get stored in a file or database table somewhere so that I can change it in the meantime? thanks much! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Trying SC7
amey01;276197 Wrote: I'm really eagar to test out SC7, but emphasis on the word test. My SlimServer/SB3 is so much part of my system now that I could not bear downtime!! With this in mind, I am NOT upgrading my main server to SC7 just yet, but can I upgrade another computer an connect my SB3 to that to test it out, or will this create issues when I reconnect it back to SS6.5.4? Will it require a firmware upgrade or can I get by without doing it? I have to tell you, I was delighted at how quickly I was able to switch from SS6.5.4 to SC7.0. I run XUbuntu and just used Synaptic Package manager, which de-installed SS and installed SC7. It brought in my 19k tracks from MusicIP in about 45 minutes, and while it was doing that I upgraded SoftSqueeze on the laptop and got the scrobbler and MusicIP Mixer settings done. Then I installed the magnificent WeatherTime plugin like I had on SS and restarted (which finally enabled mixer-specific MusicIP, that was the one snag because I didn't know I had to restart, and had to figure out how to restart). Total time, 60 minutes. With that said, you certainly don't have anything to lose by putting SqueezeCenter on another PC first, except that you're going to do everything twice when you put it on your first PC anyway ;) I'm delighted so far with the new stuff, it definitely solved a couple of usability problems I had and the couple of quibbles I still have I think can be easily achieved in future updates. Bravo. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44308 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cannot customize the order of Podcasts or RSS
Michael Herger;276417 Wrote: Should I file a bug/feature request or is this post sufficient? Please file an enhancement request. Thanks! Will do! Michael Herger;276417 Wrote: does this get stored in a file or database table somewhere so that I can change it in the meantime? It's in plugin/podcast.prefs or rssnews.prefs - just make a backup first. And only edit those files after you've shut down SC. I will do that too, thank you. But I have a question. What's the right way to shut down SC? Last night when I was upgrading I saw that there was a process that seemed to always keep SC running, and a separate process that was actually SC. When I installed plug-ins I killed the SC process and then it seemed to automatically restart. To fully shut it down I assume I kill that restarting script, then kill the server. But then how do I start it back up! I could swear that there used to be a .pl in the past where I could just say slimserver.pl stop or something, but I couldn't find the equivalent last night. Please note that despite running Squeeze products on FreeBSD or Xunbutu for like six years now, my skillz are far from elite ;) Heck, I still don't even have MusicIP autostarting or Squeeze dependent on it starting first; those rare times when I have to reboot I have to go start it manually. Now that Squeeze doesn't appear to have a dynamic plugin load I don't know *what* I'm going to do with that situation (sharpen my skills, I guess, lol!) Thanks for your help, Michael, looking forward to your response -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wife's music accessible easily and quickly??
PLynas;273320 Wrote: So what I basically am looking for is some way of making it so that she can easily access her subset of albums. My wife and I use MusicIP Mixer. We set up a filter with her name and it's the default filter for the Squeezebox. Through it, she doesn't hear any of my Frank Zappa. Similarly, there is a filter with my name that's the default for my Softsqueeze player at work, and through it I don't hear any of her George Michael. While it doesn't stop either of us from browsing the whole collection, we generally listen to mixes and it solves that issue perfectly (as well as making truly outstanding mixes...I LOVE the MusicIP mixer) -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43917 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet release date?
Lesu;265703 Wrote: One of the deciding factors must be when Squeezecenter 7 comes out of beta. I can't believe they'd release the hardware with pre-release software. I have to be honest, *THIS* is what I'm waiting for. When the plugin comes out to configure the $150 squeeze unit without the remote, I am planning to buy one a couple of months later. But in the meantime, I'm champing at the bit to upgrade to SqueezeCenter, I am so looking forward to the new Rhapsody integration, and am fearful of installing the beta version on my Ubuntu box because I barely know what I'm doing there and am waiting for an official package. I am SOOO looking forward to SqueezeCenter to use with my SB3 at home and SoftSqueeze at work! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42964 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nintendo DS Lite Browser as Interface
lucas72;271191 Wrote: Any news about this?! I just got a DS-Lite :D Check out zingerhill's review above. As excited as I was, the way Nintendo implemented the Opera browser makes it pretty much a no-go for pick-up-and-go use the way you'd want it for squeezebox control. I used it at a party one time, where I had the DS outside with me. It was about a 90 second process to turn the DS on, have it wake up, reconnect to the network, re-load the latest version of the server's page, and then finally click the button to change the volume or the track. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't Play Favorites from Slimserver UI
buelligan;264184 Wrote: Sorry if this has been posted before, but the search function is crashing. (Is it me or is the search function down fairly frequently?) Anyway, when I am using the Slimserver UI (v 6.5.4 - 12568 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252) , and I open my favorites list and click the play icon, the page reloads (as it should) but the item (all of mine are radio URLs) won't play or show up in the right hand plane. This happens to me in Ubuntu as well. I wasn't worrying about it knowing that SqueezeCenter was right around the corner, but I probably should have filed it before. I wouldn't describe my issue as a crash though. In the UI I click on Favorites and it lists them. But when I click on one to play it, the playlist clears out and nothing happens. When I do it from the remote and don't use the UI it works fine. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
seanadams;261337 Wrote: Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a clue what bridging means. It may help to pop up the option is ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would not be good. Having to go turn it back on every time I use it is also painful though (I don't leave it permanently as a bridge) -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody + Squeezebox = Endless Frustration
Chop;260772 Wrote: I have a great network, plenty of bandwidth, plenty of resources and Rhapsody works like a charm if I just stream it from the Rhapsody client on a local machine. Of the three other SB owners I know, they all have the same issues when using Rhapsody so I know I'm not alone. There was a period where I had a lot of trouble with Rhapsody and my Squeezebox, where searching on Squeezenetwork didn't work and/or it was dropping out all the time and/or it wasn't authenticating. But I posted about them here and at least one bug got fixed, and since about mid December every time I've used it (I don't use it every day but do use it almost every weekend) it's been OK. So I did have a really awful rough patch but before and after that time it was OK. I'm very much looking forward to the official Squeezecenter release with the non-SqueezeNetwork, non-Rhapsody UPnP client integration. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42501 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] AppleTV and SlimServer/SqueezeCenter
Dave Dewey;259593 Wrote: Didn't Jobs say in the keynote that renting music was pointless? Something like people want to OWN music, but only watch a movie once or twice? Paraphrasing of course, but that was the gist. He definitely is missing the boat as far as my own personal desires. I joined Rhapsody partly because of the SlimServer integration and am hooked. I have a large music collection and continue to buy lots of stuff, but having access to a library that's orders of magnitude bigger than that is truly amazing. I buy stuff when I want the best fidelity, to more directly support the artist or (of course) if it's not available on Rhapsody. But I'm finding a wealth of stuff that I'm completely happy to rent instead of to own. And for exploring new artists, how can you beat it? As long as the price stays low, I could see having a music subscription forever. The deeper / non-SqueezeNetwork integration of Rhapsody in the upcoming SqueezeCenter is something I'm really looking forward to, I'll enjoy everything even more! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] AppleTV and SlimServer/SqueezeCenter
Does anyone know if AppleTV will stream internet radio and thus accept stream.mp3 from SlimServer/SqueezeCenter? I know a lot of audiophiles talk about having no interest in having video pollute their audio stuff, but I'm very interested in having the SlimServer ecosystem available to my home theater. With the announcement of the various upgrades to AppleTV today at MacWorld, the AppleTV is suddenly very interesting to me and I wonder if I could leverage my existing software stack on it. Anyone know? -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
thing-fish;257298 Wrote: But an iPod touch that could stream from SqueezeCenter, boy that'd be one hot ticket. Sorry to reply to myself, but you know what? Has anyone looked at the Sansa Connect? It is not touch screen, but it is a PMP that has Wifi *and* internet radio. I wonder if it can specifically play the stream.mp3 from SqueezeCenter and/or open the SqueezeCenter interface while it is playing the stream? The SBC is obviously a device that is specifically tuned to the Logitech/Squeeze ecosystem, but you can get these Sansas for $100 street. It seems awfully tied to Yahoo though. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
erland;257110 Wrote: Personally I'm still dreaming of a SqueezeBox Portable that will be good enough to replace my iPod Touch as a portable device. Serious question (because I don't have an iPod Touch)...am I right in thinking that the iPod can't do streams right now? I wonder when they announce the new Apps SDK (probably next week) if that won't change, and/or if it won't be possible to write a SoftSqueeze that would run on the iPhone/iPod. Then you'd have your Squeezebox portable! If I could afford the unlimited data plan for my Treo, I'd totally be doing that right now: Pocket Tunes (and other Palm software) can do internet streams. I just can't afford the bandwidth and the darned thing doesn't have WiFi. But an iPod touch that could stream from SqueezeCenter, boy that'd be one hot ticket. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Peter;256404 Wrote: mortslim wrote: [color=blue] And isn't a laptop just as portable as the new controller? Of course not! Where do you get all these 'insights'? Can you lay in bed and hold a laptop in one hand to control your playlists? While I don't hold it in one hand, because I can't afford a second Squeezebox, a laptop at the bedside running SoftSqueeze is exactly how I do about 20% of my interaction with my collection. 60% of my interaction is running SoftSqueeze at work during the day, tapping into my collection at home. The final 20% is with the actual Squeezebox, and I'd say we split the remote vs. the laptop about 50/50. I agree with other posters and even some of the Logitech people that are posting here: I don't think the remote is a viable, pocketable mowing-the-lawn, portable device. When the iPod touch gets native wifi streaming I would consider it over the SBC in a heartbeat, if for no other reason than when I leave the house I can take the iPod with me and keep playing it, where I can't do that with the remote. I have a Treo 680 and use it as my main portable music player; if it had WiFi, I would be using it this way right this second. But it doesn't, and I can't afford the monthly fees to get the data plan that would enable streaming the stream.mp3 or internet radio onto the phone. Note to Logitech regarding wifi streaming though: several people have commented that it eats the battery life. Personally, I don't have a problem with that. As long as a wifi streaming device could get 2 hours streaming, I think it would meet almost every need I have for it, whether it be working out or mowing the lawn or gardening or whatever. Again though, I don't think the SBC, even modded to, is going to fit that bill as it doesn't really seem to be meant to be subjected to a workout or a garden or whatever. And again, while I wish it was less than $150, I am interested in the headless SBR for a second room as a mostly-always-synched-with-my-SB3 device, once it's possible to set it up without the $299 remote. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
autopilot;256517 Wrote: The reasons it beats all the other devices for me are; 1) Always on wifi - because it mostly in the dock wifi is always on - other devices like the PSP, PDA etc constantly lose the connection when idle - it takes a few seconds to log on and drives me mad when i just want to flick tracks but have wait. 3) Start up time - with say my PSP, i not only had to switch it on, log on to the network, but i also had to load the web browser. With the SBC it's just there - i grab it and its ready to use before my eyes even get chance to focus on it. 100% with you on that. I have used my Nintendo DS Browser to control the Squeezebox a few times, and it was painful for both of the reasons you specify there. You run into #3 when you start, but even after everything is loaded, you run into #1; after it times out you have to not only get back on the network but then refresh the page! Note that even though those were dealbreakers for the most part, it WAS fun to use the DS to control the music. It actually looked good and was quite operational, but only while it was a live connection. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
dean blackketter;254747 Wrote: Folks have been asking for a couple of new products from us for a while: a less expensive Squeezebox and a remote with a display. We did that. This is indeed an exciting product. However, I am one of the folks who clamors for a less expensive way to access my music collection stored in the Slimserver Ecosystem. As I see it, this is not actually chaper: $399 for the Duet is *more* than the $299 Squeezebox, since the $150 receiver requires the $299 remote for setup. If/when later software releases make it so the remote isn't required for setup, I'm probably in for two receivers. Note that I think the output jack on the remote (once enabled) is indeed very neat, but does limit the whole wireless aspect of the remote if it's anchored to powered speakers in the kitchen or garage or whatever. The really getting two recievers in one box angle doesn't necessarily apply in every setup situation (though, again, is exciting in a lot of situations!) -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
JimC;255106 Wrote: You don't have to move the Squeezebox Controller from room-to-room. It's an 802.11g wireless device that allows you to control all of the Squeezebox players (sliMP3, SB2/3, TP, and the new SB Receiver) from anywhere you have a connection to your access point. I can control my music from the sidewalk across the street. If someone in the family is going to be the designated DJ that is OK, but if you want different music in multiple rooms controlled by the occupants of the rooms, you're in multiple $299 controller land. Fortunately there's still the SB3 for that configuration. To the degree that you guys are competing with Sonos, this looks like a great product. But you are not ONLY competing with Sonos. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
Peter;255447 Wrote: thing-fish wrote: This is indeed an exciting product. However, I am one of the folks who clamors for a less expensive way to access my music collection stored in the Slimserver Ecosystem. As I see it, this is not actually chaper: $399 for the Duet is *more* than the $299 Squeezebox, since the $150 receiver requires the $299 remote for setup. If/when later software releases make it so the remote isn't required for setup, I'm probably in for two receivers. You can get a Duet for $400 and an extra SBR for $150. That makes it $50 cheaper than two SB3's. The more SBR's you add, the cheaper it gets ;) I already have a $299 Squeezebox, so to add one more room I will add $399, for total of roughly 700, roughly 100 more than a second Squeezebox. I agree 100% though that once you get into more and more rooms it's a different ballgame, regardless of how many current SB3s you might already have, though then you get into the situation where you don't have a remote in each room. But as discussed, the big thing is that this product offers a different solution in the Squeeze line. I just wish the stuff wasn't so expensive. Thank goodness for SoftSqueeze! thing-fish, currently interacting with his library via SoftSqueeze via his headphone-connected laptop at his bedside on a sleepless night. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any word of SB4?
Mnyb;252388 Wrote: make it handle 24/96 at the digital out, don't waste more on analog side i don't use that this will sure do it for me. And I go the exact other way. Give me a $50 unit with a non-VFD display, stereo headphone and RCA in the back. Then I'll buy one for every room in the house (I promise). Heck, take out some of the native decoding and make me transcode at the server. I want slimserver-compatible, multi-room synching (or independent) for as little $$ as possible. The current unit is beautiful, but I don't need the beauty in the kitchen, at the bedside, etc. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] AMG Tapestry
studley;253943 Wrote: I'd like to suggest that the Squeeze team explore licensing AMG Tapestry and incorporating it into SqueezeCenter. This would enable us to develop interesting playlists based on mood, genre, and themes. AMG Tapestry is neat, but I still haven't seen anything better than MusicIP Mixer for making a great playlist. Not Pandora, not LastFM, not Tapestry, not nothin' (for my taste anyway, YMMV). Fortunately Slimserver has pretty fine integration with it, I wouldn't have bought a Squeezebox otherwise! The advantage other services have over MusicIP is that MusicIP is only going to play you stuff out of your own collection, where of course the radio-type services can present brand new stuff to you . But for listening out of my own library, I'm constantly, notably delighted with the mixes that MusicIP comes up with. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41716 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning MusicIP
I haven't had that specific problem but have certainly had occasional quirks with MusicIP and Slimserver. Try doing these things, in this order: - Make sure that Slimserver is set to use MusicIP in the Server Settings-Plugins, and that the port is right - Clear out the Music Folder and Playlists folder in Slimserver's Settings-Basic Settings - Close Slimserver - Make sure that MusicMagic is listing the stuff you expect. Make sure the API service is turned on. - Open Slimserver - Make sure that MusicMagic is listed in your Server Settings (meaning that SlimServer sees it and is connected to it) - clear library and rescan. Unfortunately this will take a really really long time, but you probably already know that. I hope that helps: ideally that should both help you troubleshoot and get your library all reset. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41127 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nintendo Wii + Slimserver?
Oktyabr;173989 Wrote: The Touch theme is fine if you want to use the Wii to control Slimserver and play music through a *squeezebox*. ... This would require a flash-based mp3 player embedded in the browser or the slimserver page, if serving a flash player will suffice to provide 'server with a unique IP for each Wii. I finally got a Wii, and would LOVE LOVE LOVE for SlimServer to have this functionality. In the meantime I'm messing with Orb (www.orb.com), but yeah, having one interface to both my squeezebox and my Wii would be great. Just need a Flash player right in the Slimserver pages. And you know what? That could be useful for non-Wii owners as well, to have the music playing right from a player on the Slimserver page instead of through ../stream.mp3 or Softsqueeze. -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32021 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music IP question.... sigh.....sigh... :)
Zevs;176169 Wrote: So my questions are, could someone in layman terms please explain how to make the SS and the headless version of MuscIP be dependent on each other, and why doesn't SS and Music IP communicate any longer even after having the MusicIP GUI running. I'm no pro, but love the SlimServer/MusicIP combination and have been running it for a while. The big thing is that MusicMagicMixer has to have its API service turned on (regardless of whether it's the headless or GUI version), and it needs to be running before SlimServer starts. However! At least as a temporary workaround, you can go to the Server Settings-Plugins page and tell Slimserver to load plugins on the fly instead of at startup only. Make sure MusicMagic is checked. In the event that SlimServer loads before MusicMagic, you just navigate to server settings-plugins after MusicMagic has started, and SlimServer will start using it again. For a more permanent fix, I'm assuming you're running on Windows since you talked about services.msc. I did find a site that describes how to edit the registry to make one service dependent on another: http://www.boyce.us/windows/servertipcontent.asp?ID=7. However, I don't know if slimserver runs as a service on Windows, someone else will have to jump in on that! -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32299 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness
eschurr;175508 Wrote: None taken. :) this article was VERY interesting. http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24527st=0 it leads me to wonder: why screw around with ReplayGain tags? Why not just use MP3Gain to volume adjust the files so they play the same volume in SB and all other MP3 players? is there somee downside to this? That really is interesting. I always thought that MP3Gain = ReplayGain. From that article, it appears not! -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
erland;175187 Wrote: As I said in the beginning I'm both interesting in how you select which music to play today and how you would like the selection to be done in the future. These are great questions, thanks for asking! Note that probably 80% of my SlimServer use is listening to tracks at work via softsqueeze, which I've done for years. We have about 18K tracks and recently bought our first Squeezebox. Here's the most common ways we use the system: 1 - Search to artist, track or album and then do a MusicIP Mix based on that thing 2 - Browse New Music to get to the latest additions to the library, then either play the new disc or do a MusicIP Mix on the new disc. We also do Browse New Music to find the latest podcasts that a separate program has downloaded to our library. 2 - Go to the Plugins - Podcast menu to listen to a podcast directly 3 - Streaming Radio in general, whether it be the Internet Radio section, last.fm, radio.io, Radio Keneally, etc. Also our local public radio station doesn't come in very well over the antenna, so we listen to them through their stream almost exclusively now. 4 - Search to album and play the whole album. Once in a while search to artist, select whole artist and randomize it (my son does that with Weird Al in particular) 5 - Recently I installed the SQL Playlists and have played with that. The big thing I did was make a very long query to make a spouse-safe playlist that only played artists she liked. I would prefer to use MusicIPs Filters function, but that requires the GUI and I'm running MusicIP headless on FreeBSD. Overall I would say that we mostly use intelligent random mixing + some targeted listening. We have pretty much abandoned true Random listening, as our collection is too big and too broad to enjoy it that way. Once in a while I like my Slayer to fade into my Puccini, but not often. I've had a blast with SQL Playlists (I'm a Data Architect IRL), but even the spouse-safe, artist-constrained list proved to generally be too jarring on a track-by-track basis. You did a great job with that plug-in though; it's a blast. I've stated in other forums: I used Slimserver before MusicIP, but my enjoyment of my collection truly peaks with the combination of Slimserver for delivery and MusicIP for selection.The ultimate for me will be to have MusiciP/Slimserver mix my own tracks with Rhapsody tracks. That's nirvana, imo. All the music I've bought plus a tremendous rental catalog, intelligently mixed. Just got to get MusicIP to add more of the GUI functionality (namely filters and exclusions) to the headless version. -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness
eschurr;175508 Wrote: None taken. :) this article was VERY interesting. http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24527st=0 it leads me to wonder: why screw around with ReplayGain tags? Why not just use MP3Gain to volume adjust the files so they play the same volume in SB and all other MP3 players? is there somee downside to this? That really is interesting. I always thought that MP3Gain = ReplayGain. From that article, it appears not! -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
erland;175187 Wrote: As I said in the beginning I'm both interesting in how you select which music to play today and how you would like the selection to be done in the future. These are great questions, thanks for asking! Note that probably 80% of my SlimServer use is listening to tracks at work via softsqueeze, which I've done for years. We have about 18K tracks and recently bought our first Squeezebox. Here's the most common ways we use the system: 1 - Search to artist, track or album and then do a MusicIP Mix based on that thing 2 - Browse New Music to get to the latest additions to the library, then either play the new disc or do a MusicIP Mix on the new disc. We also do Browse New Music to find the latest podcasts that a separate program has downloaded to our library. 2 - Go to the Plugins - Podcast menu to listen to a podcast directly 3 - Streaming Radio in general, whether it be the Internet Radio section, last.fm, radio.io, Radio Keneally, etc. Also our local public radio station doesn't come in very well over the antenna, so we listen to them through their stream almost exclusively now. 4 - Search to album and play the whole album. Once in a while search to artist, select whole artist and randomize it (my son does that with Weird Al in particular) 5 - Recently I installed the SQL Playlists and have played with that. The big thing I did was make a very long query to make a spouse-safe playlist that only played artists she liked. I would prefer to use MusicIPs Filters function, but that requires the GUI and I'm running MusicIP headless on FreeBSD. Overall I would say that we mostly use intelligent random mixing + some targeted listening. We have pretty much abandoned true Random listening, as our collection is too big and too broad to enjoy it that way. Once in a while I like my Slayer to fade into my Puccini, but not often. I've had a blast with SQL Playlists (I'm a Data Architect IRL), but even the spouse-safe, artist-constrained list proved to generally be too jarring on a track-by-track basis. You did a great job with that plug-in though; it's a blast. I've stated in other forums: I used Slimserver before MusicIP, but my enjoyment of my collection truly peaks with the combination of Slimserver for delivery and MusicIP for selection.The ultimate for me will be to have MusiciP/Slimserver mix my own tracks with Rhapsody tracks. That's nirvana, imo. All the music I've bought plus a tremendous rental catalog, intelligently mixed. Just got to get MusicIP to add more of the GUI functionality (namely filters and exclusions) to the headless version. -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox (wirless bridge) and PS3
oreillymj;171498 Wrote: Your experience with the PS3 might be different, but with the (older model) PS2's the NIC only became active when a Network enabled game was running. The SB will only allow you to enable bridging if it can detect activity on the Ethernet port while doing the configuration. So to enable bridging, I would have to boot a game and startup network play, then try to configure bridging before the game timed out. A small switch would have probably made things easier and removed the need for a cross-over cable. I really appreciate that response. I just did get a Squeezebox and tried to use the bridging with an old PS/2 and could not get it to work. Went and bought the crossover cable and still couldn't get it to work. I think what you describe above is probably why. Kind of a bummer, I had hoped it was easier :( -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31803 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Simple Tagging Question: AC/DC
fairyliquidizer;166794 Wrote: I checked and that's what my current stuff is tagged and I just edited the album I added to that. I guess a lot of people may use software that rips to \artist\album\track and have problems with the / which is not a legal character in a windows directory name. Hmmm do Linux filesystems struggle with / given it's their directory separator? Basically I am confused by FreeDB having such ugly options. I will see what MusicIP thinks if I ask it to repair the tags. Remember that your tag info and your filename don't have to be the same. With that said, MusicIP is exactly what I was going to suggest: it's probably the easiest way to access 'MusicBrainz' (http://www.musicbrainz.org) for your tags, which is such a vast improvement over FreeDB that there's no comparison. The coolest thing about MusicBrainz is that it's user-editable, so if you're a fan and see something wrong, you have the power to edit it just like a Wiki. MusicBrainz also offers their own tagger called 'Picard' (http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardTagger) which, while more difficult to use than MusicIP, does allow tag-based file naming, and explicitly allows you to exclude characters, do firstname lastname or lastname, firstname and that kind of stuff. You can go ahead and rip with EAC and use FreeBSD or whatever tag and filename information, then let Picard fix both the tags and the filenames. So, I use Picard and MusicIP, and on my FreeBSD system I have my files organized artist/album/track. I have Picard strip out the / for the filename, so the artist folder is actually named ACDC but the tags are AC/DC -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MusicIP Icons not displaying
Diana;166226 Wrote: However, MusicIP had quietly overwritten all my track number tags and inserted its own scheme (which seemed to include using a single track number for all songs in an album!) Arrgh! That's disableable, if you will. I don't remember if it's a default or not, but MusicIP can be configured to leave your tags alone and store everything, including its analysis, in an external database. I use the Picard Tagger for tagging and MusicIP for Mixing, and even allowing MusicIP to store its analysis in the file, it doesn't corrupt my tags Diana;166226 Wrote: I wonder whether the best solution might be to review whether you *really* need MusicIP? I know that wasn't directed at me, but I gotta tell you, no MusicMagic = no SlimServer = wouldn't have bought a Squeezebox for housewarming/Christmas, from my perspective. Being able to make mixes the way MusicIP does was a must-have feature for me and my family to navigate through our library. While I'd like to see MusicIP beef up their API and headless operations, and would like to see the Slim and MusicIP products have better integration in general, my family essentially doesn't play music through the Squeezebox unless it's courtesy of a MusicIP mix. That's not to say that I don't listen to podcasts or internet radio or whatever on the Squeezebox, but when it comes to listening to *music*, MusicIP via SlimServer is how my family is listening. -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31141 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nintendo DS Lite Browser as Interface
anwars;126601 Wrote: It strikes me that the DS Lite's Opera based browser and touchscreen could be a great, cheap control for Slimserver. Has anyone tried it. I haven't yet, but I *can't wait*. At this moment they haven't released the software in the US yet, but I'm thinking pretty seriously about buying an import from ebay, for exactly the usage you describe above. Rather than carrying the laptop around I could just have the Nintendo DS as the full web-interfaced remote. That would RULE and I can't wait! -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
Jez;160480 Wrote: We're glad you like the new look and we'll be watching over the coming weeks to see how it sells in comparison to the two other options. Just FYI, I bought my first Squeezebox today after running SlimServer for years. I saw that black was a new option but chose not to get it, simply because I believe the black/silver Squeezebox will match my HK receiver nicely. With the level of interest in this thread I hope you folks consider interchangeable exterior body parts for your next model! -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
jschnur;160841 Wrote: Perhaps a version a/b/c with different price points for with different options and audio quality. That's the one I'm looking for. Let's see a $75 (or even $50!) squeezebox that only has RCA outs and, while still having a display, doesn't have the gorgeous high-end vacuum fluorescent display. Then loads of people can afford to buy multiple squeezeboxen. -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
bossanova808;161106 Wrote: and maybe a TV/VGA out for album artwork/lyrics/visualisation (not as something required, just optional, and still streaming from a server). Having an optional TV/VGA out keeps the basic screen available for browsing etc (and complete operation WITHOUT a TV, very important), but the TV out DOES open a world of possibilities for visualisation and general prettiness not currently available... ...we've just added a streaming video player and while it's not without bugs it too is a major step forward. It ties into everything - basically, all our media comes from various sources (video cam, downloads, online stores, etc) - it's centralised and processed/cleaned up. I want to second what you're saying about the TV out. I would love to have visualizations. As cheesy as they are to many, we've found for parties and such that plugging our media center PC into the TV with the Winamp or WMP visualizations, or doing the folder of digital photos + music slideshow, is a huge hit. Would be neat to do that from the Squeezebox. But you're right: also very important to NOT need an auxiliary display for regular functionality! Reading through this thread, I don't think the idea of a fat client is necessarily bad. I like the idea of having a component in my home theater that has plays local storage and ports for additional /temporary storage, can access shared drives on other PCs, will play audio and video, and ALSO act as a server to thin clients throughout the house in the form of current or stripped down/cheaper squeezeboxen. I think that sounds pretty fine! And more mass marketable than the current config. It'd be like the DLink medialounge except extendable! -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Major diffs between Squeezebox v3 and Roku Soundbridge?
azinck3;155292 Wrote: resamples all audio to 48khz (thus, not bit-perfect, thus no HDCD or DTS support) I have just done a double-take...Slimserver can do DTS? How does one rip a DTS-encoded disc? That would be very cool. Lerch -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29770 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Age appropriate subsets via? Multiple SlimServers or?
Aimsport;149122 Wrote: I would like to limit two SqueezeBox3s to a subset of my FLAC ripped CD collection (for age appropriate playback)...snipHelp. How does one achieve this? You could achieve this with SlimServer's built-in support of the MusicIP Mixer. The MusicIP Mixer http://www.musicip.com/mixer/index.jsp lets you set up filters, and then through the SlimServer interface you can assign a specific filter to a specific Squeezebox. I don't know is whether it would prevent the user from browsing the whole catalog. It DOES work to keep the Frank Zappa out of my wife's SoftSqueeze playlists and the George Michael out of mine, and might be worth it for you to experiment with. -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28976 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
junien;147410 Wrote: Let me introduce myself. My name is Junien Labrousse, Logitech SVP of the Entertainment and Communication Business Unit. Greetings! Let me introduce myself: I've been a user of the SlimServer software for several years, loving it so much that I built a computer just to house my music library and SlimServer installation, researching and learning open-source operating system s (I chose FreeBSD) to do so. However, I've never been able to afford a Squeezebox. I use the software every day (in conjunction with the MusicMagicMixer after ripping my CDs with EAC and tagging them with the MusicBrainz tagger), streaming music from my home to my desktop at work. At home I have softsqueeze installed on the family laptops and they use it. So, while I absolutely hope you can continue to maintain and even improve the audiophile aspects of the current Slim Devices products, I've always hoped that there would be a low-cost alternative so that it could be more easily adopted by more typical, non-audiophile consumers (of course while still sounding great). I guess I just want you to hear from a customer who has been waiting in the wings for a lower cost product. I'm willing to sacrifice features of the current device so I can more readily get networked audio into multiple rooms of my house. Personally, I would sacrifice the built-in display and the digital outs. For display, just give me an S-Video, or even composite video, and I'll hook it into my existing home theater. Again, don't take the display and the high-end D/A converters away from the people that want them! Just hit me with a $100 product without them. :) In the meantime, I'm a very delighted SlimServer user. -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Three MusicMagic Questions
dip;148771 Wrote: 2. In MusicMagic I can select multiple tracks to be the basis for a MusicMagic Mix. I've been using MusicMagic/SlimServer together for several months now, and if there is a way to do this through the SlimServer interface, I have not found it. dip;148771 Wrote: 3. Is there any advantage for squeezbox users to buy the premium version of MusicIP? I did not find a description about the differences. At the time that I purchased the premium version of MusicIP, that was the ONLY way to get the SlimServer integration. That was when they called themselves Predixis though...if you have found that you can do SlimServer integration with the free version, then the primary reason to upgrade is probably just to show your support. Actually look at this, this is the Free vs. Premium chart: http://www.musicip.com/mixer/features.jsp -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Artist or album name is truncated w/extended character
You know the artist Bjork? Except that the o in her name has an umlat over it (Björk)? Well, via the Musicbrainz/Picard tagger I have the tag with the umlatted o. WMP, MusicMagicMixer and Winamp all display the tags fine. But SlimServer truncates the artist name to Bj. Similarly she has an album called Medúlla that has an extended character, and Slimserver lists it as Med, again even as Is there a setting or something I need to toggle to get this type of extended ASCII character to show correctly? Picard is using ID3v2.3.0. What REALLY has me baffled is that there are some tracks for this artist, and even the Medulla album, that display OK in Slimserver, even as others have the truncation described above! So, any recommendations for the characterset or other settings I should be using for tagging and/or Slimserver? Any help is appreciated. Note that I did test to see if MusicMagicMixer was the problem by disabling the plugin and doing a complete truncate/refresh of my music library using the path instead of MM. Same problem. :( http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/ -- thing-fish thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Artist or album name is truncated w/extended character
MrC;135221 Wrote: What version of slimserver? In 6.5b / 7.0a it looks like: Thanks for the screenshot! I am: SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - freebsd - EN - iso-8859-1 -- thing-fish thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Artist or album name is truncated w/extended character
Siduhe;135222 Wrote: When tagging files via Picard which have umlauted / accented characters, try changing Options / Tags / Character Set. I find that sometimes setting the tag set to Latin ISO and forcing a resave in Picard, then doing a full clear and rescan fixes the problem. OK, I'll give that a try. I'm almost positive I used the Latin rather than the Unicode character set, but I'll give it a try again and force a resave. Siduhe;135222 Wrote: Do any of the accented / umlauted characters appear in the file name itself (not the tags, the actual file name) ? If so, rename the offending files without the unicode characters and do a full clear and rescan. YES. The filenames are coming right out of the tag names. I didn't think this would matter because I figured that SlimServer was getting the info out of the tag rather than the filename. Is this not the case? Note that I was thinking I had to do something about the filenames anyway, because I think that there have been times when MusicMagicMixer has not added stuff to my library because it hasn't been able to see the files in the filesystem. Don't know if I need to tweak FreeBSD or MM for that, but I was thinking along those lines anyway. If it helps SlimServer as well then that will be cool. -- thing-fish thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7
JJZolx;132262 Wrote: Since 6.5 is pretty much in the bag, what do you want in SlimServer 7? I have not installed 6.5 yet; I'm running FreeBSD and though I often use nightly builds of 6.5 it seemed like 6.5 had enough changes that I wanted to just use the ports collection to upgrade. So with the disclaimer that I haven't seen 6.5 (so this feature could already be in it), what I want is simple: I want to be able to reorder/delete songs in the playlist the same way that I can reorder/delete DVDs in my Netflix queue. For those of you that haven't seen it, imagine an ordered list where the numeric position is an editable text box. If I have ten items and want to move the 10th to the 1st position and the 8th to the second position, I just type 1 and 2 in the appropriate boxes and click update. If you want to delete there's a checkbox on the line. If you entered the same number in multiple boxes it gracefully handles those ties that you may have inadvertently created. Instead of laboriously moving tracks one at a time it would allow for very quick and easy playlist editing. I would so utterly love this feature. -- thing-fish thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26874 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What's your MP3 workflow?
1. Rip disc to Windows XP laptop with EAC 2. Use the MusicBrainz Picard tagger to update the tags and rename the files/folders 3. Run MP3Gain Album gain on the folder 4. Allow MusicIP's MusicMagicMixer to perform analysis on files and archive analysis within file. 5. Copy files to FreeBSD box on home network 6a. Enjoy tunes from Slimserver and MusicMagicServer running on FreeBSD box. 6b. Enjoy tunes from Windows MusicMagicMixer using FreeBSD Server as a Device Note that once MusicIP gets their MusicMagicServer to include Exclusions (no analysis on podcasts, please!) and Watch Folders, I'll probably just hop from step 2 to step 5. I can set up a Cron job set up to run MP3Gain on new files right on the FreeBSD box, and MusicMagicServer would do the analysis on new files right on the FreeBSD box. In the meantime I copy them over to FreeBSD all set to go. -- thing-fish thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26804 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
