[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
chobbney;170883 Wrote: > I didn't notice that the Netgear I linked to was a pre-N - I thought it > was a G. > > *bleaches eyes* > > Cheers all. Pre-n and MIMO are pretty good though. You would probably get higher throughput and longer range than with a standard "g" router. But you're paying more, and there's no guarantee it will be compatible with 802.11n when it's released. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
I didn't notice that the Netgear I linked to was a pre-N - I thought it was a G. *bleaches eyes* Cheers all. -- chobbney chobbney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
cliveb;170789 Wrote: > I'm pretty sure that the RP614 was one of the various Netgear routers > that were guilty of causing NTP request storms at a US university. I > would sincerely hope that a firmware update has fixed that, but you > should do a bit of research first. I'm pretty sure it was the version I have, RP614v1. From an end user's perspective, it was a very good router. Never had an issue with it, even if it did DoS Rutgers University ;-) but there was a firmware fix for that. The v1 is long gone anyway, it didn't have an SPI firewall. The new versions do. > FWIW, I have an NTL cable modem and use a Linksys BEFSR41, which is a > simple (wired-only) router that works fine. I've heard a lot of mentions of that router, it seems to be extremely common/popular in wired installations. > If you see no reason why you'd want wireless in the near future, I'd > hold off getting a wireless router, until whatever supercedes 11g gets > ratified. You can always add a wireless access point in the future when > the time comes. > > On the other hand, if you know you'll want wireless fairly soon, then a > wireless router is *much* cheaper than a wired router + separate access > point. Good point - in fact while the very wireless router chobbney asked about could be fast with very good range, it uses a "pre n" standard based on the 802.11n wireless networking draft standard. As with all "pre n" products, the draft could change sometime between now and next year when the standard is scheduled to be ratified. If it does change, you'd better hope the hardware is capable of the new standard, needing only a firmware change, or else this pre-n router may not fully work with true-n equipment. There are advantages to either approach. All-wired will definitely be cheaper and the router won't turn obsolete so quickly. The wired router market is rather static at this point. However chobbney, you may find some good deals on 802.11g wireless routers, provided you accept the fact that the wireless section may be obsolete before you turn it on. It's safe to say though that it won't be useless - 802.11g is now very common and you can safely expect new equipment will work with it for some years, although not as fast as the new 802.11n stuff coming. Of course, the true 802.11n equipment will probably be quite expensive at release time. And keep in mind the Squeezebox's needs are easily met by the current 802.11g - all the "n" equipment may do is increase the range. chobbney - if this is all Greek to you, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.11g which has a nice chart near the beginning which summarizes speeds and ranges before the article gets very technical. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
chobbney;170782 Wrote: > Looking at Netgear, I can get something like the following: > Netgear RP614 4 Port Cable Router - £28 > http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/product.asp?pr=RP614 > I'm pretty sure that the RP614 was one of the various Netgear routers that were guilty of causing NTP request storms at a US university. I would sincerely hope that a firmware update has fixed that, but you should do a bit of research first. FWIW, I have an NTL cable modem and use a Linksys BEFSR41, which is a simple (wired-only) router that works fine. If you see no reason why you'd want wireless in the near future, I'd hold off getting a wireless router, until whatever supercedes 11g gets ratified. You can always add a wireless access point in the future when the time comes. On the other hand, if you know you'll want wireless fairly soon, then a wireless router is *much* cheaper than a wired router + separate access point. -- cliveb Performers -> dozens of mixers and effects -> clipped/hypercompressed mastering -> you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
Looking at Netgear, I can get something like the following: Netgear RP614 4 Port Cable Router - £28 http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/product.asp?pr=RP614 or the Netgear WPN824 Pre-N MIMO 108Mbps Router - £64 http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/product.asp?pr=WPN824 I guess it does make sense to get a wireless router and not enable the wireless part. Actually I just saw ceejay's post so it looks like I'm on the right lines. Thanks very much for the help, guys. It's much appreciated. -- chobbney chobbney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
Something like this perhaps (its what I have) http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=2SQN - Does wired and wireless. To save a few pennies and go wired only http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=22ZR Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 reboots
I've got the same behaviour here since firmware 72 for the SB3. Very often the display is stuttering which means that the SB3 does have connection problems. I've set my router from 54Kbit to 11Kbit speed and the problem seems to stay away. Question: is it possible to use firmware 64 from the original 6.5.0 release ? Stef -- erftemeijer erftemeijer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8957 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
Hi, Have a look at Netgear's uk site, they have routers recommended for the NTL cable modem. Do get a wireless one and just turn the wireless off until required. Have fun, Doug. -- Dougal Dougal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5489 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
chobbney;170567 Wrote: > I have no need to go wireless (at the moment) and having a wire to the > Squeezebox will be fine, so would something like this: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-8-Port-Ethernet-Unmanaged-Switch/dp/B87H94/sr=1-2/qid=1168886663/ref=sr_1_2/202-3642568-8379805?ie=UTF8&s=electronics > work fine? Not really, that's a switch. Get a router. Wired ones are dirt cheap these days - if you look around hard enough you can find one free after rebate. I have one I'm not using (Netgear RP614v1) but I doubt you live near me as I have never heard of NTL as a cable provider. Plus shipping costs would likely be more than you'd find one at any local computer shop. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
I just got home and looked again at the cable modem. The other port isn't an ethernet port - it's a USB port. Sorry about that - I don't know what I was thinking. The cable modem is an NTL E08C007 so - judging by the comments above - I'll need a router. I have no need to go wireless (at the moment) and having a wire to the Squeezebox will be fine, so would something like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-8-Port-Ethernet-Unmanaged-Switch/dp/B87H94/sr=1-2/qid=1168886663/ref=sr_1_2/202-3642568-8379805?ie=UTF8&s=electronics work fine? It looks like I wouldn't need to configure it. Sorry for wasting everyone's time, by the way. -- chobbney chobbney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
Peter;170503 Wrote: > cliveb wrote: > > (Incidentally, your posting implies that it will be feasible to use > > your SB3 via wired ethernet. If that is the case, don't even *think* > > about using it wirelessly). > > > > You exaggerate. I have 4 SB3's, and 3 of them could be feasibly linked > by wire. I chose to connect them via wireless anyway, because: > > - In my experience wireless works just as well as wired > - It saves on the amount of unsightly cabling > Fair enough. I realise that plenty of people (presumably the majority) have no problems with wireless. But reading these forums reveals that the overwhelming majority of connection problems are down to using wireless networking. It just strikes me that if you have the option of using wired, you may as well eliminate the potential problems that wireless might cause. Re. the unsightly cables: fair point, although I might respond by mentioning out that a Squeezebox already has three wires coming out of it (power plus a pair of RCAs), so one more doesn't seem like such a big deal. But to get back to the original issue: I'm genuinely interested if NTL are now supplying cable modems with more than one ethernet port. So if chobbney can confirm one way or the other, that would be great. -- cliveb Performers -> dozens of mixers and effects -> clipped/hypercompressed mastering -> you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
cliveb wrote: (Incidentally, your posting implies that it will be feasible to use your SB3 via wired ethernet. If that is the case, don't even *think* about using it wirelessly). You exaggerate. I have 4 SB3's, and 3 of them could be feasibly linked by wire. I chose to connect them via wireless anyway, because: - In my experience wireless works just as well as wired - It saves on the amount of unsightly cabling Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
chobbney;170431 Wrote: > Before I get a Squeezebox, I need a little help with a networking > question. My current setup is as follows: I have an NTL SACM (Stand > Alone Cable Modem) rather than a set-top box. My PC is connected > directly to this modem via an Ethernet cable. There are a few unused > Ethernet sockets on the back of the cable modem. > > Can I plug the Squeezebox 3 directly into the back of the cable modem > and get full and instant connectivity between it and my PC? > > Or will I need to also buy a wired/wireless router to create a proper > network? My NTL cable modem has just one ethernet port (and one USB port, which I don't use). Mind you, mine is an old ntlhome:120 (Ambit) modem. I seriously doubt that more recent NTL modems have a router built-in, in which case I think you're mistaken about these "unused ethernet sockets". If you are sure there are some more ethernet ports on the modem, please let us know what model of modem you have. Assuming there aren't any extra ports, then you'll need to get a router. (Incidentally, your posting implies that it will be feasible to use your SB3 via wired ethernet. If that is the case, don't even *think* about using it wirelessly). -- cliveb Performers -> dozens of mixers and effects -> clipped/hypercompressed mastering -> you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 and NTL Cable Modem
>From NTL's pages... "ntl provide a free Broadband cable modem that allows a connection to the Internet and email through your home computer. If you want to connect more than one computer to your broadband connection then you need a device called a router. The process of hooking these together is called home networking." I'm not sure what those spare connectors are, but I guess they came with the case and aren't active. You'll need a router, almost certainly... Unless, of course, NTL have accidentally given you more than you've paid for! HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 reboots
I'd suggest you try switching your players, put the SB3 where the SB2 was, and the SB2 where the SB3 was. What I'm getting at is I believe it might be a networking issue at the location. Or it's possible theres an issue with the player, this should point us in the right direction. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] - +1.650.210.9400 ext. 3 Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 totally dead - power supply?
kkottman;168071 Wrote: > folks- Had a SB3 since August and starting having issues with it in the > Nov timeframe due to upgrade of server side. Thanks to you all I have > been able to resolve every issue I have encountered to date. > Unfortunately I am now having a problem I cant seem to be able to > troubleshoot at all. After using the unit for 5-6 hours yesterday I > awoke this morning to find the SB3 player itself completely dark - that > is I cannot seem to get anything at all on the screen...I tried > unplugging-replugging and I have verified that the unit is getting > power because of the red glow in the optical slot - and the powersupply > is protected by a monster power conditioner/supressor - however no > matter what I try I cannot get anything on the screen. The server side > says cannot find the player and everything had been working great > yesterday. > > Sadly, as if kicking a dog when he is down, the "search" function in > this very forum seems to die and deliver a 404 error anytime I use more > that 16 characters in my search string so I have not been able to search > on specific topics but thats another storyAnyone have any ideas? > Many thanks in advance- > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31410 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 totally dead - power supply?
If the power supply is OK, try a hard reset. You'll need your WEP or WPA keys to set up again after the reset. Reset by disconnecting power, press and hold add/+ on the remote, and reapply power to the SB3. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31410 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 slow to respond to remote control
To prevent users (like me) from entering extra remote control presses when the SB does not appear to be responding right away, a great feature would be visual feedback on the SB display when a remote command is received, such as flashing a tiny remote control icon or even just a few pixels in a consistent position on the display. I've seen this type of thing on several devices, and I expect it would be fairly trivial for Slim's software/firmware folks to implement it. The Squeezebox itself would issue the display icon as soon as it receives an IR command, without having to wait for any response from the Slimserver. It confirms for the user that: a) he or she successfully pressed a button on the remote; b) the batteries in the remote are not dead; and c) the SB received the command OK. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 slow to respond to remote control
CosyCat;122398 Wrote: > Hi my second post here so i´m a newbie to this. > > I have this problem to running v.3 hardware and 6.3 server and win xp. > > But. > Under Player Settings remote > > I have 2 alt > 1 Slim_Devices_Remote > 2 jvc_dvd > > what´s jvc_dvd? > > I unmarked "jvc_dvd" and now my remote works flawlessly (used it for > an hour or so) thank you thank you well don e cosy cat I fixed slow remote this way too cheers dave -- fatfred fatfred's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 slow to respond to remote control
jvc_dvd is the IR codes for a JVC DVD player. This lets you take a cheapo Universal Remote (which probably isn't "trainable" and probably doesn't list the magic code for Slimdevices) and just tell it "I have a JVC DVD player!" .. the remote will send JVC codes, and the server will parse them. It works well... unless you have a JVC DVD player.. or a JVC TV. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 slow to respond to remote control
Hi my second post here so i´m a newbie to this. I have this problem to running v.3 hardware and 6.3 server and win xp. But. Under Player Settings remote I have 2 alt 1 Slim_Devices_Remote 2 jvc_dvd what´s jvc_dvd? I unmarked "jvc_dvd" and now my remote works flawlessly (used it for an hour or so) -- CosyCat CosyCat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 dead?
I'll see if I've got one somewhere. It looks as if there is power getting to it, the light is on in the optical socket, but as you say, it may not be getting enough power. -- DaveW DaveW's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6430 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25484 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 dead?
It wouldn't rule out the external power supply. Just because it tests ok with a meter does not mean it is functioning under load. If you have another 5v supply to test with, that will help narrow it down. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25484 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 slow to respond to remote control
Triode Wrote: > Patrick - I think the official answer is to wait for 6.5. Is the late > keycode suppression important to you and if so is a non windows > solution worthwhile? If so you could patch/replace the IR.pm file [or > could for you..]Indeed Adrian. I'm now using a 2G Althlon 64 so slow > response is a thing of the past for me, but I do think it was a mistake not to include your code in 6.3.0 particularly when SD and their agents are promoting fairly low powered NASes running SS. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 slow to respond to remote control
Richard - 6.5 contains code to suppress stored keypresses if they are more than 3 seconds old. Run with --perfwarn=0.5 to see what is taking the resources and post here or on the beta thread. [this doesn't look to be an Alien issue] Patrick - I think the official answer is to wait for 6.5. Is the late keycode suppression important to you and if so is a non windows solution worthwhile? If so you could patch/replace the IR.pm file [or could for you..] -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 slow to respond to remote control
See this bug:- http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2081 Although marked as 'resolved' I'm not convinced it is. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 slow to respond to remote control
Hi there. Just found this after searching for "slow" & "remote"! I have the same problem with my Squeezebox 3 and I'm currently at the very latest version of 6.5b. I run a very minimal Linux - Fedora FC 5 with no X-windows on an Epia Via 1Ghz based unit with 512MB of RAM. The problems seems to happen wireless and wired. It can be very unresponsive even when nothing obvious seems to be taking system resources. Once I've started to understand some of the debug options, I'll see if I can suss out what's happening. Anyone else have any thoughts? Cheers, Richard -- SadGamerGeek SadGamerGeek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6145 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3
thank you. I'm making a lot of progress with the setup :) -- fairyliquidizer fairyliquidizer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20657 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox 3
fairyliquidizer wrote: Thanks Sean :-D This is all very friendly tonight :) stinkingpig Wrote: You can run an appliance as a server now without uPNP, though performance is a bit suspect with large libraries. uPNP is yet another solution in search of a problem. Is this done by running a version of Slimserver on a NAS device? Yes. The design of Squeezebox is that there must be a Slimserver around -- Squeezenetwork is basically a Slimserver in the sky. If your Slimserver is running on a big desktop computer, an antique laptop in the closet, or a ReadyNAS in the basement, the only difference should be performance and storage space. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip Since 1996 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3
Thanks Sean :-D This is all very friendly tonight :) stinkingpig Wrote: > > > You can run an appliance as a server now without uPNP, though > performance is a bit suspect with large libraries. uPNP is yet another > solution in search of a problem. > Is this done by running a version of Slimserver on a NAS device? -- fairyliquidizer fairyliquidizer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20657 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3
Good choice! You will also enjoy the superior sound quality, faster UI, larger feature set, better support for large music libraries, and more interesting user community compared to tubular alternatives. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20657 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3
thank you very much for a very informative reply! -- fairyliquidizer fairyliquidizer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20657 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 won't power on
Have had my squeezebox back now for 4 days and it seems to be working great. My compliments to technical support for their quick repair and getting it mailed back to me promptly (6 days from the time I mailed it to them to when I had it back in my hands and that includes a long holiday weekend). Hopefully I won't have any further problems. Thank you Slim Devices. -- philn philn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2993 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19432 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 won't power on
Try to reset the box by holding down the power off button on the remote control for about 20 seconds. If it doesn't reset and reboot, then write to support at slimdevices dot com and describe the problem. Or call them at the number on this page: http://www.slimdevices.com/au_company.html The support people have the procedures to walk you through it, one on one, determine what the problem is, and the authority to arrange a replacement if there is a problem they can't fix over the phone. This forum isn't a good place for that sort of activity. And the support people mostly don't read this forum. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19432 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 won't power on
I am in the same boat. I have had it for about 3 weeks but waited to set mine up on Christmas Day because it was my Christmas present to myself. After 8 hours BAM! Screen got erratic and after powering it off...nothing. Done. Gone. Goodbye Slim Device. We'll always have those 8 hours. Hopefully Slim Devices support will rectify this as soon as possible. Bottom line: $300 + Doesn't Work = THIS SUCKS! -- socialxray socialxray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2996 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19432 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
Quoting slimpy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: brothers Wrote: ...And they went from a switching to a linear power supply: lower efficiency, more heat generated. The sb3 are shipped with a switching power supply just like all previous models. And being external it does not add to the heat generated in the unit itself. The change was in one of the internal logic supplies (3.3v?). -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
brothers Wrote: > ...And they went from a switching to a linear power supply: lower > efficiency, more heat generated. The sb3 are shipped with a switching power supply just like all previous models. And being external it does not add to the heat generated in the unit itself. -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
Darren Wrote: > Me too! It happened the night I received it. My replacement is on it's > way. :-) My Squeezebox did exactly the same thing after only one week. I have since had mine replaced. -- andyl777 andyl777's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2778 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
The issue is NOT that it's getting to warm, but that these particular displays are not functioning within their specified temp range. If you encounter this problem we will swap it out - it does not seem to be widespread. We have the display vendor looking into it. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
Nope, no obvious ventilation - it's all enclosed and pretty solid. Mine seems to get hot in the top half of the unit - around the display... -- happyfishman happyfishman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
...And they went from a switching to a linear power supply: lower efficiency, more heat generated. - DB -- brothers brothers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2735 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
I hadn't noticed it before, but now that I look at the SB3 photos... Is there _any_ type of ventilation in the SB3 case? And having never seen one, I'm guessing that the internal volume of the case is a bit less than the SB2. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
Still interested to know how hot these things are supposed to get during normal use. Over to you Slim Devices... -- happyfishman happyfishman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
I can confirm that... I have ramped down the display brightness (from 4 to 3) and the room is a little cooler than previously. The device doesn't seem to be as warm and, importantly, has functioned without loss of display all day. I guess there must be a threshold temperature that causes a malfunction in the display circuitry. I'll still be returning it, though... -- happyfishman happyfishman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
This screen issue does seem to be heat related. After leaving the unit off for about 10 minutes, the display has restored itself. I'll repost results as the unit reheats itself. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
Hi, my brother will bring me two sb3 on x-mas when he takes the long way from california to germany to visit my family. I am now quite concerned that importing these babies this way will bring me into serious trouble when they have a production fault like in the situation described above. Oh my god... all this shipping overhead for replacement will drive my nuts (and poor)! Up to now I thought sb's are stable products where a hw defect is something you normally don't see. But the wave of display failures building up here does make me a little nervous what to think about product quality :-( After having excellent experience with my slimp3 and the sb2 I hope the sb3's will not wipe out this impression. For international customers (that do directly buy at slim devices) problems like these are going to seriously damage reputation! Hopefully my two sb3s coming ahead will work fine. Otherwise I will be extremly disappointed! I can live with beta-sw that gets better over time, but I am not willing to live with beta-hw for serious money. As said before, I am really concerned and the happiness about getting these nice babies is mixed with fear that they might fail the next day. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
Seems like this is a potential component fault issue. I have noticed that my device does get a little hot when it is running. It's in a room maintained at around 18-20 deg C and it's not placed close to anything that generates any additional heat so I'm not creating the problem. I think that the heating up is causing the display to fail since if I power down, the standby screen is gradually restored within a couple of minutes. If I turn the device back on too soon the affected parts of the display are still missing. If I wait for 5-10 minutes the full display is restored and will remain for about an hour before failing. The music playing functions are not affected. I have the display set at full brightness and I'm wondering whether this is aggrevating or even causing the problem. Is the heat generation normal in this device? Also wondering whether this might have a regional slant. I am in the UK operating with 240v (European?) version. Any ideas anyone? -- happyfishman happyfishman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
Me too! It happened the night I received it. My replacement is on it's way. :-) +---+ |Filename: squeezebox.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=552| +---+ -- Darren Darren's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=170 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
I just had the same thing happen to me tonight. The center 3/4" or so is completely dead. I'll drop a line to slim support for a replacement. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
It's back again after about an hour of playing so I guess it is a definite fault... -- happyfishman happyfishman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
You should get it replaced. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 audio quality
Excellent, will be looking forward to listening to it. Thanks for the quick response. Regards, Andrew -- astroboy astroboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18539 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 audio quality
I haven't tested the specific products you're asking about, but generally yes DAC technology hs come a long way in recent years, and you will probably find that SB3 sounds better than older high-end CD players. As for the sound card there should be no contest as sound card manufacturers generally don't pay too much attention to delivering clean power, even on the expensive models. The only was to know for sure is to give a listen for yourself - I expect you'll be surprised by SB3's performance. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18539 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 appears in the Mail On Sunday magazine
audiofi Wrote: > p.s. I'd also add a Sonic T-amp in a posh box to the list for the whole > package! Remember, this wasn't something I was expecting people to buy - just a way of getting more reviews, as and reputable magazine only review stuff you can buy. A magazine review comparing music-serving solutions is pointless if the amps are different and everyone would want a different amp. Imagine this for a review: blah blah blah The Slimserver Deluxe package has everthing you need for a serious system. You just need to buy the amp and we recommend the . In addition not only does this package alone beat the Phillips , the Sonos and the Yamaha but if you already own a faster computer, a Palm or want to use your MAC, use another DAC or want any further flexibility you can also just purchase the basic Squeezebox and add these features - something the Phillips, the Sonos, and the Yamaha don't provide. CONCLUSION Phillips: Price 1, Audio 5, Flexibility 1 Sonos: Price 1, Audio 5, Flexibility 1 Yamaha: Price 1, Audio 5, Flexibility 1 Squeezbox Deluxe: Price 1, Audio 5, Flexibility 3 All the players are expensive and inflexible (SB Deluxe does have a web interface and you can play Quake on it's computer so we give it 3), all sound the same, there is nothing really seperating them. We say forget all of these players and build you own Squeezebox setup staring with just the great value unit itself because chances are you already have a network, a computer, a DAC and other things. -- Jim Jim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18417 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 appears in the Mail On Sunday magazine
Jim Wrote: > Good to see. > > Would be interesting to ask them what defines a top-end and what they > think about comparing the SB3 with the top-end models they reviewed. > In audio I've always thought top-end meant the sound and nothing else > and not hearing the other devices it would be interesting how they > compared to a SB3 with a dedicated DAC. > > If you're in top-end only audio type worth bothering with is FLAC, plus > ability to have access to lossy radio - maybe. Any sort of remote > control with a screen can easily be substituted for some sort of > PalmPilot type device. You're rich so expense of a computer is not a > concern and no doubt one is already ownded. With a computer connected > a million other options are opened. > > Ease of use of ripping might be but you could argue a properly > configured PC with EAC is not going to be harder to use (and achieve > better quality) than any device that accepts CD's. And also, there's > always the "we rip your CD's" option for the seriously rich or lazy. > > Maybe just for rich people who don't know how to choose the other stuff > or magazine reviews against the true expensive/hi-end stuff SlimDevices > should offer the "SqueezeBox Ultra Package" comprising of a SB3, a > "cool looking" PC, wireless router, Color Palm "Remote", dedicated DAC > and a free FLAC rip of up to 500 CD's. I tried the new Phillips in Curry;s the other day and whilst the all-in-one idea is a good one, the interface was the same as the bottom of the range streamium's and still has the same problem that the screen needs a backlight or a change of colours or something, black text on grey doesn't work! I'm busy working on the "cool looking" PC as we speak, have already sorted out a headless system which rips CD's to FLAC or MP3 automatically, runs Slimserver out of the box and has crash recovery software (just in case anything crashes, it restarts it within 60 seconds). Am looking into suppliers for decent cases etc. to expand on the range of cheaper recycled PC's, will post here as soon as I sort anything out. Andrew p.s. I'd also add a Sonic T-amp in a posh box to the list for the whole package! -- audiofi audiofi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18417 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 appears in the Mail On Sunday magazine
Good to see. Would be interesting to ask them what defines a top-end and what they think about comparing the SB3 with the top-end models they reviewed. In audio I've always thought top-end meant the sound and nothing else and not hearing the other devices it would be interesting how they compared to a SB3 with a dedicated DAC. If you're in top-end only audio type worth bothering with is FLAC, plus ability to have access to lossy radio - maybe. Any sort of remote control with a screen can easily be substituted for some sort of PalmPilot type device. You're rich so expense of a computer is not a concern and no doubt one is already ownded. With a computer connected a million other options are opened. Ease of use of ripping might be but you could argue a properly configured PC with EAC is not going to be harder to use (and achieve better quality) than any device that accepts CD's. And also, there's always the "we rip your CD's" option for the seriously rich or lazy. Maybe just for rich people who don't know how to choose the other stuff or magazine reviews against the true expensive/hi-end stuff SlimDevices should offer the "SqueezeBox Ultra Package" comprising of a SB3, a "cool looking" PC, wireless router, Color Palm "Remote", dedicated DAC and a free FLAC rip of up to 500 CD's. -- Jim Jim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18417 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 appears in the Mail On Sunday magazine
norderney Wrote: > Just been reading the Mail On Sunday newspaper magazine - Night & Day. I > noticed an article about streaming music from your pc to hi-fi. They > did 3 types low price, mid range and top end. Squeezebox 3 appeared in > mid range as their best buy. It was up against Philips WACS-7000 [got 4 > stars], Hifidelio got 2 stars and Bardusb got 4 stars. SB3 got 5 stars. > > In the low price section Rokusound Bridge M1000 got best buy with 5 > stars, withnApple Airport Express getting 2 stars. > > In the top end section the Sonos and Yamaha Music Cast MCX1000 both got > 5 stars, but Yamaha got the best buy. > > It was good to see SB3 appearing in a mainstream national newspaper > magazine. Yup. Here's hoping they start turning up in the UK "real soon now" too! Been watching my dabs.com order say "N due soon" for long enough... -- Brian Ritchie Brian Ritchie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2319 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18417 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 @ MPH'05 Earls Court London
Sorry but I can't come - I'm all tied up at Erotica. Craig -- Craig Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18329 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 @ MPH'05 Earls Court London
radish Wrote: > I would have thought a black SB3 was the perfect dungeon accessory. in serious black leather... -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18329 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 @ MPH'05 Earls Court London
ultra238a Wrote: > yes I wish we were at Erotica too I would have thought a black SB3 was the perfect dungeon accessory. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18329 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 in the UK
> We will be talking with Patrick this week about how we can implement > the $100 discount when you buy two Squeezebox Gen3 so if you are in the > market for two units please hang fire for the time being. > > Paul > Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd I'm about to buy another two, so it'd be great if you can sort something out. Richard ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 in the UK
Currently at the moment we have price parity at £179.99 (wired) and £229.99 (wireless) with the US (once you add delivery and VAT). We will be talking with Patrick this week about how we can implement the $100 discount when you buy two Squeezebox Gen3 so if you are in the market for two units please hang fire for the time being. Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 in the UK
If it will cost you £250 then the duty will be VAT on £250 + £4 royal mail handling fee. Which is roughly £48.00. I would buy from a UK dealer if I were you. I got my SB2 from Broadbandstuff.co.uk which included free shipping. I haven't found a UK dealer with a SB3 yet though, so you may need to wait. I personally an going to stick with my SB2, though the SB3 looks nicer, but I bought it to listen to music and not look at. -- JohnD76 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 in the UK
ceejay Wrote: > This has been discussed before, I think the consensus was that you're > better off buying from one of the numerous resellers here in the UK. > Once they have stock in of the new box, they should all be able to give > you a quick response and local support (just in case you have to return > anything!). > > Ceejay Yes, that's the way I remember the discussion as well. I was just wondering whether the $100 promomotion would make it more worthwhile ordering direct. -- blacklaw ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 in the UK
Craig, James (IT) Wrote: > Dean already said no SB3s at the MacExpo. > > Shame, they probably could have sold as many as they could bring... > > James > > I must have missed that - sorry! -- blacklaw ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 in the UK
blacklaw Wrote: > > > Has anyone in the UK bought directly from Slim Devices before? If so, > can you please advise on what you paid in duty charges? > > This has been discussed before, I think the consensus was that you're better off buying from one of the numerous resellers here in the UK. Once they have stock in of the new box, they should all be able to give you a quick response and local support (just in case you have to return anything!). Ceejay -- ceejay ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
