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- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


How's the watch app coming along? I can imagine is a big big challenge!!
I wouldn't know where to start lol.





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- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Pascal Hibon wrote: 
 Why don't you make this a configurable item. Some people will want the
 status bar, while others won't.
Because switching between the two is a PITA.

I haven't got a single complaint or change request the way it is now so
I figure it's probably OK.

Going forward most people in the long run use iPhone 6 so they'll get
the status bar and have enough space to still make the layout work well.



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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
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- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


If it helps I don't mind testing with my watch when the time comes.. I
have basic control of music from the music app on the watch, of course
iPeng has to be running on the phone for this to work.





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Or did you mean a black watch?





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- I don't care


Simon_rb wrote: 
 Or did you mean a black watch?

Actually both. And since I didn't order the watch online but bought it
in a store I can't really change it, had to buy what they had in stock.

I'm pretty happy about the stainless steel case but not the white sports
band.

I think when the hype settles down I'll simply buy a Milanese or a
leather band or maybe someone will sell 3rd party wristbands by then :)



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Both nice choices. I'm awaiting the link bracelet and blue leather loop.
Lucky you found a store with some stock!! I hope you enjoy using it
[emoji6]





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- Yes, show me the status bar!
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen.
- I don't care

Simon_rb wrote:
Lucky you found a store with some stock!!

It's a bit odd. Apple doesn't sell the watch in their own stores but
they do sell them in a handful of boutiques around the world, one of
them in Berlin.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2015/04/23/you-can-buy-apple-watch-in-high-end-boutiques-this-week-but-not-apple-stores/

I know they had long queues last Friday and only let 3 or 4 people per
hour in but when I showed up today there was no queue at all, two other
people came around the same time I did and 10 minutes later I had my
watch

I hope you enjoy using it [emoji6]

Trying to. It's clearly a well-made Apple product. Gorgeous design (the
watch, not the band) and well thought-out but it's clearly not my
product line.
I refused to use fitness watches even when I was still running marathon
although I just tried it out on a cycling round and it came quite handy.
That's probably the use case I'm going to actually use it for,
frequently.
I'm also not the high-frequency messaging guy who really needs to get
notified of messages every few seconds. And Siri's not my friend, too.
And beyond that... most more complex tasks quickly call for you to pick
up the iPhone. I don't really see a lot of sense in cumbersome scrolling
through long lists of events if I have to carry my iPhone anyway.

So that leaves glances, notifications and quick remote control tasks,
especially at home where you don't have to carry your iPhone.

Third party Apps so far are disappointing but that's probably no
surprise given that almost nobody had a chance to test theirs on an
actual device before shipping. But I think we'll really need a native
SDK. And even then I don't think this will get the same kind of variety
we see with phone and tablet Apps, it's simply a much more specialized
device.

But it does make sense for iPeng. If Apple just hadn't put all the usual
annoyances in there. Here goes another day just trying to get the code
signing configuration right

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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2015-04-28 Thread Pascal Hibon



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- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Why don't you make this a configurable item. Some people will want the
status bar, while others won't. It's impossible to satisfy everyone.
But it is possible to come up with a compromise which is to make it
configurable. I understand this means more work for you as a programmer
though :-)
Personally, I would love to see the status bar or at least the battery
icon anyway. I use iPeng in the car a lot and there it makes a lot of
sense.



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Simon_rb wrote: 
 How's the watch app coming along? I can imagine is a big big challenge!!
 I wouldn't know where to start lol.

I've got something working (essentially basic controls) and pretty much
know what I want to add with the current WatchKit (spoiler: browsing
through a 30k Albums library with artwork is not going to happen until
they allow full blown Apps).

My biggest issue right now is that I don't have a watch and from what I
hear about surprises others have seen I'm  definitely not going to ship
without on-device testing

Didn't want that blue developer model so I'll try to find the time to
queue up for a good one :)



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- I don't care


Simon_rb wrote: 
 If it helps I don't mind testing with my watch when the time comes.. I
 have basic control of music from the music app on the watch, of course
 iPeng has to be running on the phone for this to work.

Yea, I'll PM you.
How well does control through the Music App work?

My biggest issue is that Apple is setting some expectations with that
music App that will be hard to meet.
For example they have buttons on the glance which isn't possible for 3rd
Party Apps.
Then they have a scrolling label which will be really hard to do and
probably eat a lot of battery (you'd have to transfer the whole
animation sequence as bitmaps from the phone), so probably a
non-starter, too



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- I don't care


Sorry, my bad it's not the music app - it's the music glance. If you
have preserve connection set on iPhone then you can change volume,
pause/play, skip forward and back using it. I think it relays whatever
controls are on the iPhone lock screen.





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- I don't care


Yes, i know, that's what I meant. Would be great to do something similar
for iPeng but you can't do that with WatchKit.



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- I don't care


Simon_rb wrote: 
 Well basic controls work fine from the music glance so you can use them
 and then you'd have to load the iPeng watch app to do more complex tasks
 like selecting an album. Tbh a lot of the time you'd use your
 iPhone/iPad..

Problem is: selecting an album likely isn't very feasible either. I
mean: if I knew people only had a few hundred albums but some have a few
thousand. That just doesn't work.

No, I think one use case is if you do NOT want to keep your iPhone
running at full steam and then maybe access to favorites, of course the
current playlist, selecting players, maybe search.



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pippin wrote: 
 Yes, i know, that's what I meant. Would be great to do something similar
 for iPeng but you can't do that with WatchKit.

Well basic controls work fine from the music glance so you can use them
and then you'd have to load the iPeng watch app to do more complex tasks
like selecting an album. Tbh a lot of the time you'd use your
iPhone/iPad most of the time..





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- I don't care


I'll leave it in your capable hands [emoji6]

Better once the watch can run full apps rather than relying on the
phone..





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- I don't care


Well, it will always somehow rely on the phone. It can't communicate
with anything else.

But right now the Watch is just a slide-shooter. Actually pretty close
to how the SB3's UI works. There are 5 or 6 standard UI elements you can
use and then you can throw images (or image sequences) that you prepare
on the phone at it.
That's not enough.

For example, I would want to add actions to glances like Apple does. I
need scrolling labels - like Apple uses them.
I want to create own UI elements.
Without that I doubt that there will be too much useful stuff coming out
of third party Apps.
Actually I think remotes like iPeng might even be on the bright side
because you can cover standard functionality like on the device and at
home you don't need to have your phone with you. But beyond that

Anyway. I just bought one today, it's not the one I wanted (I wanted a
black one, now it's the silver stainless steel one with a white
wristband, the watch looks and feels cool, the band sucks), you've got
to take what you get right now.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2015-03-16 Thread Simon_rb



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I think we are talking about different things lol. I'll try and paste a
screenshot. Looking forward to see how you implement the Apple watch
[emoji106]





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2015-03-16 Thread Simon_rb



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- I don't care


Hi,
I meant when you pull down the multiplayer control, it only fills the
middle of the screen. If it filled the whole screen you could fit more
players on.. Ie 2 on each row. 

Using your app has been a great experience - please keep up the
fantastic work. 

Oh, before I forget have you looked at the Apple watchkit? Would be
great to have basic controls on the Apple watch. Stuff like volume,
pause, play, stop skip forward and back.

Thanks pippin.





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2015-03-16 Thread pippin



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- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Horizontally overflowing lists on a touch device with little height?
Nah, that would be a usability nightmare, I would have to disable all
the D'n'd, what happens with synced players and so on.

Apple watch: sure.



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2015-03-11 Thread pippin



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Simon_rb wrote: 
 
 In the future do you think the music player control could fill the
 screen in landscape mode? That would look sweet. Could maybe have two
 players side by side.
 

Sorry, I somehow missed this...
You can hide the playlist even now. Just swipe it away or use the
playlist button on the cover overlay.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-10-13 Thread Simon_rb



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pippin wrote: 
 Settings-iPeng Settings-Enable Landscape Mode.
 Unlike on iPhone 6 Plus it's not enabled by default on the 6 but it's
 available.

Haha, I do feel daft lol. Thanks mate.





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2014-10-13 Thread pippin



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- I don't care


Simon_rb wrote: 
 Haha, I do feel daft lol. Thanks mate.

I'm a bit unsure how to handle iPhone 6 in this respect.
On the old devices I really didn't want to enable landscape mode by
default because I believe a lot of people only used that for wall mounts
and in cars and things like this. For normal use it's a bit annoying
when it rotates e.g. when you use it lying in bed or on a sofa.

On iPhone 6 Plus I feel landscape is more common, after all it also has
a landscape home screen, can launch Apps in landscape and all of Apple's
Apps support landscape (although most of Apple's screw up on the
rotation, Settings, Mail etc. tend to actually open submenus on their
own wehen rotating the device). So I enabled landscape mode by default
on the 6 Plus, too.

On the 6 I don't know yet, what most people will prefer, for now it's in
the no landscape by default category for me because that's how Apple
seems to see it, too.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-10-13 Thread Simon_rb



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- I don't care


All I can say is I'm grateful you have included the option. I thought
the iPhone 6 Plus was a little big for normal life. I think the iPhone 6
screen is big enough for the landscape modes only available on the
bigger phone. 

I am grateful you have given the option to try it out. And after using
it for a little bit I have to say it looks and feels fine.





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norderney wrote: 
 
 I was having issues when swiping right to left in the Now Playing screen
 to view tracks in current playlist in iPeng7 on my iPhone 6 Plus. But
 I'm no longer getting that problem on iPeng8. It's working very nicely.
 

Yes, that was actually one of the bigger issues in iOS 8. It was not
just affecting the NowPlaying screen but the tile album views as well.
I was surprised, that nobody ever reported it.



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Daverz wrote: 
 Is it possible to get a wider edit window?  I often have titles so wide
 that I can't see what they are in the narrow window.  Full landscape
 editing would be great!

Yea, I knew that would be coming... I'll have to see, maybe I'll allow
the playlist window to also be dragged all the way to the left to show
it full screen. Will have to see how I can do this without creating a
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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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Maybe a stupid Question is IOS 8 ready yet ? I have two devices to
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most so maybe you have an idea .

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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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Mnyb wrote: 
 Maybe a stupid Question is IOS 8 ready yet ? I have two devices to
 consider an iPhone 4 and an iPad Air . You have more iOS experience than
 most so maybe you have an idea .
 
 I'm for various reasons more concerned about the phone

my 2 cents. I updated my iphone 4S to iOS 8 and it seems to be fine for
all my uses and I've noticed no problems. Very different for my ipad.  I
updated my ipad2 to ioS8 and that was a mistake. It loses some of the
icons (they turn to icons that look like targets) and it loses 3G
connection (shows no service) about every 4 hours. This requires a
reboot of the ipad to fix. Seems to be a known issue, but iOS 8.02
didn't fix.

I'd been planning on updating my iphone to 6 and my wife's to a 6plus. 
And I've been waiting for whatever the new ipad air release is next
week. I'll likely get one of those. I update all these things about
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- I don't care


I don't have a lot of issues with iOS 8, much less than with iOS 7, for
example. It's a bit slower, I don't like the new rotation animations but
at least rotation detection seems to have improved somewhat on iPad
(it's still not completely reliable). It's a bit slower, as usual, due
to moving everything to auto layout, I suppose. That's it.
Not a lot of new stuff, too, but a tremendous amount of new API
capabilities so I'd expect to see a lot of great new Apps (or features)
that only work under iOS 8 in the future.

The iPhone 6/6 Plus IMHO is a very unusual device for Apple. It works
really great: top performance, no real glitches, brilliant display and
camera. Everything there. Antennas finally work, battery lasts so much
longer,...

But I think it actually has a bad design. I don't like the look (looks
like every second Android device to me) but that's not the biggest
issue. It's slippery as hell so I never feel comfortable holding it.
It's the first one since iPhone 4 that I want to carry with a case.
Which doesn't matter, since I don't like the design anyway (the 4 was
gorgeous)... Then the placement of the power button right at the
opposite side of the camera button makes me often accidentally turn it
off, that's just a bad placement (but probably the reason for the
improved antenna performance), granted, most Android phones do the same
thing (probably to get the Antenna right, too). And the speaker on the 6
Plus is placed in a way that I just can't seem to hold it to my ear
correctly.
So.. 10/10 for hardware and software 5/10 for the design. Very un-Apple,
as I said...



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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Any chance of enabling the landscape view for the iPhone 6? Or does it
look really small? Maybe have it as an option to toggle? great update
btw and thank you. Although I've updated from the original iPeng, so I'm
just getting used to the new design.





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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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Yes looking forward to iPeng 8 ,I'll  probably hold out for some more
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Simon_rb wrote: 
 Any chance of enabling the landscape view for the iPhone 6? Or does it
 look really small? Maybe have it as an option to toggle? great update
 btw and thank you. Although I've updated from the original iPeng, so I'm
 just getting used to the new design.

Settings-iPeng Settings-Enable Landscape Mode.
Unlike on iPhone 6 Plus it's not enabled by default on the 6 but it's
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Mnyb wrote: 
 Yes looking forward to iPeng 8 ,I'll  probably hold out for some more
 8.0.x update then I get itchy and update the iPad air .

You don't need iOS 8 for iPeng 8.
There are only a few iOS 8 specific functions so far (more to come). The
new NowPlaying designs for iPhone 6 are somewhat iOS 8 specific but
there is nothing else for iPhone 6 so it's no problem.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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I have downloaded iPeng8 onto my iPhone 6 Plus, and it's working really
well. 
I was having issues when swiping right to left in the Now Playing screen
to view tracks in current playlist in iPeng7 on my iPhone 6 Plus. But
I'm no longer getting that problem on iPeng8. It's working very nicely.
I also like having the status bar at the top of screen.
Thanks again Pippin for improving your excellent App.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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pippin wrote: 
 Now... Landscape is getting closer, too :)
 
 [image:
 http://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/iPeng8_teaser_ls1.png]
 

Is it possible to get a wider edit window?  I often have titles so wide
that I can't see what they are in the narrow window.  Full landscape
editing would be great!



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Thanks Pippin. I've got an iPhone 6 Plus so I'm really looking forward
to iPeng8. I think the new landscape mode for current playlist sounds
really good.
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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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It's now approved and should show up on the App Store in a few hours.
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- I don't care


Now, while I'm still waiting for review on the App Store (for almost
two weeks... they have _really_ long delays right now) I've looked a bit
at how far iPhone sizes have come...

So I've made a little comparison of the different screen sizes and
formats iPeng 8 supports, really quite a range.
The sizes are to scale given WRT the nominal resolution. This means,
they are almost exactly to scale for an iPad mini. The 10 iPad
obviously shows the same content but at a larger size, it has a lower
effective resolution.

Now, of course the question is what Apple will come up with next week...
Probably a @3x resolution for 10 iPads bringing it's resolution to
something in between iPhone retina screens and the retina HD screen on
iPhone 6 Plus. And if they then really add a beast of an even larger
iPad we can add something new to these charts :)

BROWSING YOUR LIBRARY

[image:
http://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/albums50.png]

CURRENT PLAYLIST

[image:
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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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Brilliant. I'll keep my eyes peeled.





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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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- I don't care


Cheers Pippin for that comprehensive reply! Any ideas on an eta? Also if
you need more beta testers we have an iPhone 4, 5, 5S, 6, iPad mini and
2 all in use and we run two versions of LMS..

Cheers





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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-30 Thread pippin



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It's waiting for review. Apple's review times are currently crazy and
increasing, no idea whether this is because everyone ups their Apps for
iOS 8 or HealthKit or what.
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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-23 Thread Simon_rb



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Hi
Is that landscaping restricted to iPhone 6 Plus or will the iPhone 6  6
Plus have the same app? Looks great by the way. Im still using classic
iPeng, guess I'll be updating soon haha





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Well, landscape mode works on all devices, even in iPeng Classic, you
just have to enable it in settings.

Regarding the landscape playlist shown above I'm not yet 100% sure.
Until yesterday I would have said it's for iPhone 6 Plus only but since
then I realized it's not entirely unrealistic.
The playlist is a bit smallish, but still wider than the pinned one on
iPad. Now... The iPad one makes up some of that lost space by having
taller cells which is not an option here because height is even more
limited, but still... It's 8 rows (one less than on 6 Plus and 1 1/2
less than in portrait mode on iPhone 4 but the same as iPeng Classic on
iPhone 4), that's not entirely useless.
The square cover obviously has the same size as in portrait mode and
while the buttons cut a bit into the available space for the album name,
title and artist are comparable to portrait mode, so probably OK.
And you can always hide the playlist if you think it's not worth it.

I'll ask my beta testers but my current take is that iPhone 6 is
probably going to get the playlist, too.

Still, it's one of those things where the 6 Plus excels. This is a
ridiculous beast of a phone, definitely too big for my idea of a phone
to always carry around. But for things like reading or music library
browsing that can make use of a bit of space it's great. And while I
always found the landscape mode on the smaller devices entirely useless
it really makes sense here.

And when it gets old it's probably going to be the replacement of my
Squeezebox touch as an in-wall-controller...



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-23 Thread Slackerini



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- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


My only request is to make a little more space between the volume slider
and  Play  buttons, given there is a lot more real estate to work
with.  I find myself skipping songs all the time by accident when I go
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2014-09-23 Thread pippin



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Yes, there is indeed more space now between the volume slider and the
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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-22 Thread andynormancx



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I've just added my vote, I'd like to have the status bar. Apps that hide
it from me annoy me, unless there is good reason to hide it.

I was very pleased to see it make an appearance in the beta ;)



Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ?
I SAID ALL OF THEM !

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2014-09-22 Thread pippin



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- I don't care


Ha, I was indeed pretty surprised by the results.
But well, they are pretty clear WRT using the bar on old devices so I'm
sure I'm leaving it as it is there for now.
iPhone 6 and 6 Plus will get the bar.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-22 Thread pippin



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Now... Landscape is getting closer, too :)

[image:
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[image:
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[image:
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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-21 Thread mps



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Hi Pippin,
The screenshots look great. Since some different requests are showing
up in this thread, what are the prospects for having a 1-10 rating
control? There seem to be a number of iOS star rating widgets that
accept half stars, and, while (I hope) this is a simple request, it
would make more of a difference to my daily use than almost anything
else you could do.

Thanks for everything you do,

Mike



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-18 Thread pippin



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- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Bump.
Any more opinions?
Currently I'm solidly closing in on leaving it as it is for pre-iPhone 6
devices.
iPhone 6 for now will show the status bar, no time to make it optional
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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-18 Thread pippin



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So... some first impressions on how iPeng 8 is going to look like on the
beast that is iPhone 6+

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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-18 Thread kesey



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pippin wrote: 
 So... some first impressions on how iPeng 8 is going to look like on the
 beast that is iPhone 6+
 
 

looks good:-)



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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That works for me.  I guess trying to maintain consistency across the
different generations of devices without turning it in to a
maintenance/performance nightmare is a tough challenge.  I think you've
managed to find the sweet spot that provides a highly functional design
that is still intuitive to use as all the iDevices evolve.

PS - Speaking of evolution, with the latest iOS 8 update to a 5S, the
volume slider is rendered differently now.  Everything works, it's just
the horizontal line for volume level is now below the circle used to
move volume level.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

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Yes, I know, that will be fixed with the update, too.

It's actually a nasty bug in iOS itself that has been around since iOS
7.1. I added a workaround for 7.1 but sine I know that Apple knows about
the bug for at least 6 months I limited it to 7.1 so it's showing up
again.

The problem is that with this bug you can't color the slider anymore.
It's not a huge issue in iPeng but I still hoped they'd fix it.



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MelonMonkey wrote: 
 
 Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I consider this a
 significant bug and one that doesn't affect any other app I've seen.
 Navigating those lists is a big part of using iPeng on the iPhone.
 

OK, I think I've nailed it by eventually doing the whole index-bar thing
myself.
On the any other App. I haven't seen any other Apps that both use an
index bar (or the section headers that go along with it) and hide the
navigation bar on scrolling. It doesn't even work with Apple's own
implementation under iOS 8.
If you know any that do this I'd still be happy to know about them
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Different, but what about some basic Sonos integration ?
http://musicpartners.sonos.com/?q=node/21



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 Different, but what about some basic Sonos integration ?
 http://musicpartners.sonos.com/?q=node/21

Umm, as a streaming service provider? I don't understand this? Or are
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pippin wrote: 
 Umm, as a streaming service provider? I don't understand this?
 Integrating Sonos will be hard, it works completely differently, you
 can't remotely control it with the same App without creating a huge
 usability mess.

I was thinking about a very basic integration to start with. This is
from a discussion I'm having on another thread. I'm bridging my
Squeezebox system with my Sonos by a hardware bridge between an SB3 and
a Sonos Play:5. This is brute force but it works well. As far as SB is
concerned, all the Sonos speakers are seen as a single player so I
switch on/off sync/unsync individual Sonos speakers using the Sonos app,
but for all the rest, LMS is still my interface, as long as I play to
that SB3 bridge. I've been using that for about 2 years. Not perfect
from a UI point of view, but what works 100% well is synchrnisation
(amazing). 

Then during that discussion, I was thinking that a software bridge could
be developped instead of my HW goofy bridge. At least, to do the very
same basic. No real management of the Sonos environment, but as least
piping the sound to it. I saw then that Sonos has an API to add
streaming server application, so I was wondering if a PC running
SqueezeLite could then be that bridge and create a stream that Sonos
would then understand and replay. I was even wondering if named pipes
could work for a test (not pretty, just a test) where Squeezelite would
output to a named pipe that would be played as a file by the Sonos
player. I guess there will be some issue with file format as the pipe
will probably not represent something meaninfull to Sonos, but I was
just wondering ... otherwise, implementing a proper Squeezelite to Sonos
stream would probably work

So, as you see this is far from a complete integration where iPeng, for
example, could control the Sonos devices, but at least that would be an
interesting building block.



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I think the problem here is that what you are looking for is a very
specific solution for a very specific setup you are using. This will
probably work for you and nobody else out there so putting this into
iPeng will probably not be the right place, I'd look into writing a
custom plugin or something like that.

philippe_44 wrote: 
 
 I saw then that Sonos has an API to add streaming server application, so
 I was wondering if a PC running SqueezeLite could then be that bridge
 and create a stream that Sonos would then understand and replay.
 
No, that's not what this is. This is a way to integrate your music
service to their internet backend to be integrated in all Sonos
devices.

 
 I was even wondering if named pipes could work for a test (not pretty,
 just a test) where Squeezelite would output to a named pipe that would
 be played as a file by the Sonos player. I guess there will be some
 issue with file format as the pipe will probably not represent something
 meaninfull to Sonos, but I was just wondering ... otherwise,
 implementing a proper Squeezelite to Sonos stream would probably work
 
The problem is that you still would need to implement a FULL control of
the Sonos system, something that's not documented but needs to be
reverse engineered.
And it will work completely different from the Squeezebox system so will
be quite a separation between the two.

Seriously: pick one system and go with it. Integrating Sonos and
Squeezebox will just create a usability mess. IMHO.



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pippin wrote: 
 I think the problem here is that what you are looking for is a very
 specific solution for a very specific setup you are using. This will
 probably work for you and nobody else out there so putting this into
 iPeng will probably not be the right place, I'd look into writing a
 custom plugin or something like that.
 
 
 No, that's not what this is. This is a way to integrate your music
 service to their internet backend to be integrated in all Sonos devices.
 
 
 The problem is that you still would need to implement a FULL control of
 the Sonos system, something that's not documented but needs to be
 reverse engineered.
 And it will work completely different from the Squeezebox system so will
 be quite a separation between the two.
 
 Seriously: pick one system and go with it. Integrating Sonos and
 Squeezebox will just create a usability mess. IMHO.

Oh well, I have around 10 Squeezebox and your app as well, but the issue
is the discontinuation of the Logitech line. I'm fixing them as much as
I can, but some will eventually fail, hence I've looked at adding a
Sonos and a sort of gracefull transition. I will try to play a bit with
things like icecast and squeezelite to see if I can create a
LMS-originated stream that can be picked-up by Sonos. 

Re my setup I don't think this is very particular. This is just a way to
have some bridge between the 2 worlds. Anybody having a SB and a Play
could use the same solution. I'm not saying it is perfect or pretty, but
it really works in a sense that I have SB devices perfectly sync'd with
Sonos devices and I still only use iPeng :-) to manage what is being
played. Just either push on/off buttons or use the Sonos controler for
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Why don't you just use some of the DIY solutions based on SqueezeLite as
a player, like a Raspberry Pi with Hifiberry or something like this.

The point I was making is there is no little integration. Even if you
don't support all of the functionality of Sonos playing a certain stream
and controlling volume etc. requires you to implement most of it.
And a lot still would not work confusing a lot of users.

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pippin wrote: 
 Why don't you just use some of the DIY solutions based on SqueezeLite as
 a player, like a Raspberry Pi with Hifiberry or something like this.
 
 The point I was making is there is no little integration. Even if you
 don't support all of the functionality of Sonos playing a certain stream
 and controlling volume etc. requires you to implement most of it.
 And a lot still would not work confusing a lot of users.
 
 You will never get to work really seamlessly with each other.

I think I understood your point, what I was trying to say is I feel
there is good enough integration that might be reachable. To some
extend I'm already very happy with what I have. Having said that, I'll
continue on another thread
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102119-Replacement-system-recommendations
as I do not want to troll your poll - I already did and I'm sorry for
that. Thanks for making iPeng, this is a really great application !



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2014-09-15 Thread pippin



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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
5G

- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Hm, this result almost makes me thing whether I should even hide the
status bar on the bigger iPhones (6 and 6+)
Looks like a pretty clear hide it on iPhone 5/5s



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-14 Thread Chunkywizard



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- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Erm, can I be awkward and say, only in the cover art view? When I'm
browsing I like to see it, but if I am using iPeng as a now playing
screen then I like the clean look. 

Sorry for being awkward, I wonder if I am the only one who would like
this?

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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
5G

- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Actually it's something I've thought about, too.
It might solve the issue of otherwise having to re-layout the NowPlaying
screen but I'm not sure it will work well with the transitions to/from
the NowPlaying screen, that might get too awkward.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-14 Thread garym



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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
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- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Can you remind me of what the status bar looked like. I'm a long time
ipeng user, but  I'm not sure what info this contained.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll



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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
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- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Umm, I'm talking about the iOS status bar. The thing at the top showing
time, battery state etc.
In lists you can also use it to scroll to the top which is a
functionality I miss right now.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-14 Thread MelonMonkey



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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
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- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Having the status bar appear and disappear (ie. only in some view modes)
is absolutely the wrong way to do it, so please don't go that route. 
It's either always there or never there. My vote is handle them both and
toss it into a preference.  The app already has a ton of preferences,
one more isn't going to break it. ;)

My only suggestion at this point is to change the behavior of the A..Z
letters at the right side of the screen when scrolling lists. iPeng 7
has been broken with respect to this - the letters (quick jump way to
navigate) should always remain static, just like in every other iOS app.
However, in iPeng their layout changes when the heading at the top
appears and disappears. This means if you try to use those letters to
scroll down, you will never be able to stop on the letter you want. More
than frustrating, it's actually infuriating. ;)



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll



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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
5G

- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


MelonMonkey wrote: 
 Having the status bar appear and disappear (ie. only in some view modes)
 is absolutely the wrong way to do it, so please don't go that route.
 
Why not? Plenty of examples. Apple does it for the video player, iPeng
itself does it on iPad and I haven't seen any complaints so far.
The NowPlaying screen is completely different, it even has a different
color scheme and now browsing where you'd need it to scroll to the top
(OK, for the current playlist), I don't think it's very intrusive.
Configuration options are certainly just as bad.

Also, I'm definitely doing it for the landscape/portrait transition
because I don't want the status bar in landscape. In landscape the
navigation bar is smaller so having a status bar there will bring down
the notification center much more easily.

 
 the app already has a many - one more isn't going to break it. ;)
 
And that's true for all the about 50 different things people want
configurable? iPeng already has way too many options but it would have
several times more if I weren't refusing to add options wherever I can.
I don't think I'm going to do it in this case.

 
 My main niggle with the current app is a design bug - the behavior of
 the A..Z letters at the right side of the screen when scrolling lists.
 iPeng 7 has been broken with respect to this - the letters (quick jump
 way to navigate) should always remain static, just like in every other
 iOS app.
 
I know, the problem is that would mean I'd have to re-implement the
navigation logic. The problem is that the scrolling container resizes.
I'd either have to start to permanently show the navigation bar again -
taking up quite a bit of space - or completely replace the navigation
controller and manually show the navigation bar which would be a whole
App redesign. I don't think I've got that much time, it's at least a
month of work or so at the time I currently have.

 
 This means if you try to use those letters to scroll down after
 scrolling up, you will never be able to stop on the letter you want.
 More than frustrating, it's actually infuriating. :mad:
 
You can, what you need to do is touch the bar and then move to the
letter you want, then you can get the exact letter you are trying to
find.

But yes, I hate it, too :)

 
 Next one, this has been around forever, so I hope it's not some
 fundamental design element that can't be remedied. When starting the
 app, immediately apply my saved menu button arrangement. iPeng 7 seems
 to depend connecting to the server before restoring its own app state. 
 Again somewhat frustrating.
Yes, but unavoidable.
The menu is defined by the server so as long as it's not loaded, iPeng
can't use it, it doesn't know how the menu looks like, it can change any
time.
The menu will be different on each server you connect to and - even
worse - it's per-player so it can even change when you switch to a
different player. Too many variables.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-14 Thread MelonMonkey



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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
5G

- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


pippin wrote: 
 Why not? Plenty of examples. 

It's a bad design practice, even if APple does it in some apps.


 And that's true for all the about 50 different things people want
 configurable? 

No. Only if you're considering using the menu bar.  If you don't want to
have an option, leave it hidden at all times. Which is why I cast a vote
for no menu. ;)

 I know, the problem is that would mean I'd have to re-implement the
 navigation logic.

Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I consider this a
significant bug and one that doesn't affect any other app I've seen. 

I can't offer you a suggestion of how to address the issue from a code
perspective because I'e never seen your source, but if it involves a
complete app redesign then I think there are more issues here than I know
about. ;) With respect to the letters always being there, I'm not sure
what the issue is with that. The only instance where you would hide that
column entirely is when there are fewer entries than the height of the
screen. 

You can, what you need to do is touch the bar and then move to the
letter you want, then you can get the exact letter you are trying to
find.

I do all kinds of things to deal with that UI issue, but none of them are
very good workarounds.

The menu is defined by the server so as long as it's not loaded, iPeng
can't use it, it doesn't know how the menu looks like, it can change any
time.
The menu will be different on each server you connect to and - even
worse - it's per-player so it can even change when you switch to a
different player. Too many variables.

I'm talking about the APP's menu at the bottom, not the player menu.  Not
sure why an app menu would would be saved to the server, so I'm assuming
you thought I was talking about the player menu.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll



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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
5G

- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


MelonMonkey wrote: 
 It's a bad design practice, even if APple does it in some apps.
 
Again: why?
It's not confusing if the screens are different anyhow so please tell me
why you think it's a bad design practice?
There are as many design practices as there are designers and there's
a lot of stuff designers tell me would be good practice that actual
users really hate.
It's a bit like with iOS 7: all designers and developers love it but the
majority of actual users still seems to hate it.

Another example: a lot of design people have told me that it's bad
design practice to ever hide the status bar except for games and
full-screen images (Apple says so, too) but the poll above suggests more
people like than hate _that_ (including you).

So I'd like to understand _why_ you thing a certain practice is better
than the other. You know: for follows function and stuff. I kind of like
this principle.

 
 No. Only if you're considering using the menu bar.  If you don't want to
 have an option, leave it hidden at all times. Which is why I cast a vote
 for no menu. ;)
 
OK. Well... good to know.
I'm probably going to definitely show it on iPhone 6 (with the much
larger screen) but might leave it out on iPhone 5.

 
 Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I consider this a
 significant bug and one that doesn't affect any other app I've seen. 
Well, as I said: I hate it, too.
But the there is: real artists ship and if I tried to fix anything I
really don't like there still would not yet be an iPeng 1.0 :)

That said I'm might be able to fix it for iOS 8, just not for iOS 7.
Should have been more specific here.

 
 I can't offer you a suggestion of how to address the issue from a code
 perspective because I'e never seen your source, but if it involves a
 complete app redesign then I think there are more issues here than I
 know about. ;)
 
The App uses a standard NavigationController as the main hierarchical
element. Hiding the navigation bar is not something that thing supported
pre-iOS 8. Hiding it manually caused the issue you are seeing.
The options are:
1. Don't hide the navigation bar (too little space, especially on iPhone
4)
2. Don't use the NavigationController. That's a lot of work because it
means I'd have to create that bar manually in each and every menu (OK,
at least in the superclasses).

There are other Apps hiding the navigation bar but most of the ones I've
seen don't use a navigation controller.

iOS 8 supports hiding the navigation bar, I hope using that
functionality fixes the issue (haven't tried in iPeng, yet).

 
 With respect to the letters always being there, I'm not sure what the
 issue is with that. The only instance where you would hide that column
 entirely is when there are fewer entries than the height of the screen. 
 
I'm not doing that, it's iOS itself changing the layout as a response to
the changed hight of the navigation bar.

 
 I do all kinds of things to deal with that UI issue, but none of them
 are very good workarounds.
 

  I'm talking about the APP's menu at the bottom, not the player menu. 

 Me, too. That _is_ a player-specific menu in a Squeezebox system. Try
 it out: You can move all kinds of menu items to the top level per
 player.
 This is NOT an App menu, it's provided by the server. There are five
 App-specific entries in that menu, these are the ones that are
 permanently there. Everything else is server-supplied.
 It varies by server version or per player, even menus that _look_ the
 same.
 
Not sure why an app menu would would be saved to the server

 Because that's how the Squeezeboxes work.
Set the app once and that's it - just like every other app.  
 Not every other App has 90% of it's functionality defined by a
 server.
 iPeng is just UI, the functions are (mostly) on the server side. iPeng
 can't talk to the player, only to the server so it needs to do what
 the server supports.
 If I did not do it this way you'd lose a lot of functionality.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-14 Thread garym



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Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch
5G

- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


pippin wrote: 
 Umm, I'm talking about the iOS status bar. The thing at the top showing
 time, battery state etc.
 In lists you can also use it to scroll to the top which is a
 functionality I miss right now.

Aha. Ok. I don't need it.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll

2014-09-14 Thread pufnstuf



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- Yes, show me the status bar! 
- No, I prefer to have the clean screen. 
- I don't care


Chunkywizard wrote: 
 When ... I am using iPeng as a now playing screen then I like the clean
 look. 
 
 Sorry for being awkward, I wonder if I am the only one who would like
 this?
 
 CW

Hey Chunkywizard, I completely agree with you about a totally clean
screen for the Cover Art /Now Play view. I like to see just the pure
cover art in that mode.

Thanks pippin for continuing to improve the great iPeng - I use it
daily. Literally. (Would love a remote play/caching function too... if
you are ever bored hehe) :D



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