Re: [Elecraft] Re: KRX3 Subrx front panel issues - AuxDSP guilty!

2008-10-13 Thread Ian Maude

Randy Hargenrader wrote:
I think I found the problem.  Looks like I had a screw head on the Aux 
DSP board bumping up against the main board.  I have it running now - 
first without the hardware and then now with it some insulating 
patches of tape did the trick after confirming the hardware was 
bothering something.


Seems to me that ALL the screws holding the AuxDSP to the standoffs 
should be the nylon ones sure would have made my life easier!

Hi Randy,
Are you *sure* you fitted the correct hardware (standoffs etc)?  I have 
built 3 of these now and not had any issues with hardware etc.  It is 
easy to get the wrong sized standoff or to miss fitting a washer.


73 Ian

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split Release

2008-10-13 Thread Ken K3IU
On #202 with latest firmware, when I am in split mode and then turn on 
the SubRx , the K3 stays Split in all modes (cw, ssb, AM). I have to tap 
BSET button to take it out of split mode. I used it last night trying to 
snag 9L1X. Worked fine and stayed split.


73,
Ken K3IU

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, the EXACT same thing happened to me yesterday, with the exact 
same key sequence, and of course, the exact same result! You're right 
-- embarrassing!


Jim, WS6X

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Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:20:56 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Split Release

I was calling a station working split on 30M.  I was up 5 calling.  I 
switched on SUB to listen to the pileup.  The next thing I knew SPLIT 
dropped out.  I did not notice that and I was calling on the DX freq 
with the cops telling me UP UP UP.  What an embarasment!!
 
I have no idea how this could happen.  SPLIT should only respond to 
the SPLIT button and not messing around with the SUB RX. Has anyone 
else experienced an unexpected loss of SPLIT mode?
 
Jim

K7EG
 

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[Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split Release]

2008-10-13 Thread Ken Wagner K3IU
That's not what I meant! Not tap the *BSET* button; press/hold the 
*SPLIT* button to get it out of split. Obviously I wasn't awake when I 
sent the previous email. Sorry...

73,
Ken K3IU

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Date:   Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:17:26 -0400
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On #202 with latest firmware, when I am in split mode and then turn on 
the SubRx , the K3 stays Split in all modes (cw, ssb, AM). I have to tap 
BSET button to take it out of split mode. I used it last night trying to 
snag 9L1X. Worked fine and stayed split.


73,
Ken K3IU

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, the EXACT same thing happened to me yesterday, with the exact 
same key sequence, and of course, the exact same result! You're right 
-- embarrassing!


Jim, WS6X

- Original Message -
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:20:56 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Split Release

I was calling a station working split on 30M.  I was up 5 calling.  I 
switched on SUB to listen to the pileup.  The next thing I knew SPLIT 
dropped out.  I did not notice that and I was calling on the DX freq 
with the cops telling me UP UP UP.  What an embarasment!!
 
I have no idea how this could happen.  SPLIT should only respond to 
the SPLIT button and not messing around with the SUB RX. Has anyone 
else experienced an unexpected loss of SPLIT mode?
 
Jim

K7EG
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mini plug/jack mis-contact

2008-10-13 Thread Don Wilhelm

Aki,

There should be no difference in the various mini-plugs as long as they 
are the 3.5mm type.  If you are using a 2.5mm, it might work for a 
while, but will be loose in the jack and will not make good contact.


If you do have a 3.5mm plug and it is loosing contact, check to be 
certain the jacks protrude through the rear panel sufficiently.  If the 
KIO3 module is not properly seated, the jacks will be recessed and will 
cause the problem you seem to be having.


73,
Don W3FPR

a.yoshida wrote:

I sometimes find that mini plug/jack on the back panel makes
mis-contact. (Line in/out, Speaker etc)
Is there recomended mini plug ?

73
aki  ja1nlx



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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Split Release

2008-10-13 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

I can duplicate the problem if the button is held any 
longer than absolutely necessary.  There seems to be 
a critical time that is not quite long enough to be 
a full hold but longer than an tap that will drop 
Split.  



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 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split Release
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The problem is that you are holding the Sub button 
 instead of tapping it.  If you hold you trigger 
 the Link/Diversity mode and kill split. 
 
 
 Joe, I agree, that would be a logical conclusion, but in my 
 case, I only tapped the button. I'll keep a close eye on that 
 situation to see if I can duplicate it.
 
 Jim, WS6X
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mini plug/jack mis-contact

2008-10-13 Thread n6ax
I am having some of the usual dirty contact issues with the 3.5 mm 
plugsreaching back and 
twisting the plug in the socket restores normal operation.

I've seen this (as I a msure everyone else has) on lots of plugs with nickel 
(?) plating since 
that became the rage. Makes me long for the days of silver-plated 
everything..oh well.

John, N6AX

K3 567





On Mon Oct 13  5:28 , a.yoshida  sent:

Don

Thanks for your suggestion. I will check all plugs now.

73
aki  ja1nlx

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mini plug/jack mis-contact


 Aki,
 
 There should be no difference in the various mini-plugs as long as they 
 are the 3.5mm type.  If you are using a 2.5mm, it might work for a 
 while, but will be loose in the jack and will not make good contact.
 
 If you do have a 3.5mm plug and it is loosing contact, check to be 
 certain the jacks protrude through the rear panel sufficiently.  If the 
 KIO3 module is not properly seated, the jacks will be recessed and will 
 cause the problem you seem to be having.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 a.yoshida wrote:
 I sometimes find that mini plug/jack on the back panel makes
 mis-contact. (Line in/out, Speaker etc)
 Is there recomended mini plug ?

 73
 aki  ja1nlx


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[Elecraft] WAYNE - SPLIT BUG

2008-10-13 Thread Jim Denneny
Wayne

There appears to be a bug that will kill SPLIT.  Joe Subich has confirmed that 
holding SUB button slightly longer than a TAP will kill SPLIT.  This happened 
to me in a pileup on 30M.  I don't believe linking/unlinking SUB should kill 
SPLIT.

I hope this gets on the list of fixes.  Thanks.

Jim
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[Elecraft] AL-811H Amp and K3

2008-10-13 Thread David Wilburn
I will be picking up an AL-811H soon.  I was first licensed in 2001 
and I have never had an amp.  The 811 requires a 15ms delay, and I 
noticed that the firmware now supports up to a 20ms delay, so I should 
be good there.


The 811 documentation talks quite a bit about the use of ALC, and the 
K3 documentation talks quite a bit about NOT using ALC.  I'm not sure 
where to go with this.  Anyone using a K3 with an 811?  Do I need to 
use ALC with it?


I am trying to get everything ready for the upcoming contests, so 
timing is becoming an issue.


The current manual says to see the website to see if you need the mod 
kit.  The website says to see the mod kit manual, to see if you need 
to the mod kit.  The manual does not say anything about how to 
determine if you need the mod kit, so I assume that if -12v ALC is 
needed, the mod needs to be done.  Is this correct?


I do not see any mention in the K3 documentation about connecting to 
amps. It looks like the key out is used to key the amp.  The manual 
says up to 200v DC @ 5A.  The 811 documentation only mentions 12v, and 
gets grounded for keying the amp.  Do I need any other devices inline 
for keying the amp?

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K3 - S/N 766
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[Elecraft] K3 / Text Decode / Scroll Back Buffer

2008-10-13 Thread David Wilburn
I seem to remember reading something along the way about being able to 
scroll back through the text decode buffers.  I was not able to find 
anything about it in the documentation, but may have missed it.  Is 
this possible?

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Re: [Elecraft] AL-811H Amp and K3

2008-10-13 Thread NZ0T

David,

I run the Al-811 (3 tubes otherwise the same as the 811H) with my K3 and
interface is very easy.  There is no need to use ALC just adjust the K3
power output so you are not overdriving the amp.  With my setup that's
around 60- 70 watts out.  You just need a simple cable with RCA plugs as the
keying line and you are good to go.

GL and 73,

Buill NZ0T


David Wilburn wrote:
 
 I will be picking up an AL-811H soon.  I was first licensed in 2001 
 and I have never had an amp.  The 811 requires a 15ms delay, and I 
 noticed that the firmware now supports up to a 20ms delay, so I should 
 be good there.
 
 The 811 documentation talks quite a bit about the use of ALC, and the 
 K3 documentation talks quite a bit about NOT using ALC.  I'm not sure 
 where to go with this.  Anyone using a K3 with an 811?  Do I need to 
 use ALC with it?
 
 I am trying to get everything ready for the upcoming contests, so 
 timing is becoming an issue.
 
 The current manual says to see the website to see if you need the mod 
 kit.  The website says to see the mod kit manual, to see if you need 
 to the mod kit.  The manual does not say anything about how to 
 determine if you need the mod kit, so I assume that if -12v ALC is 
 needed, the mod needs to be done.  Is this correct?
 
 I do not see any mention in the K3 documentation about connecting to 
 amps. It looks like the key out is used to key the amp.  The manual 
 says up to 200v DC @ 5A.  The 811 documentation only mentions 12v, and 
 gets grounded for keying the amp.  Do I need any other devices inline 
 for keying the amp?
 -- 
 
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 NM4M
 http://www.nm4m.com
 K2 - S/N 5982
 K3 - S/N 766
 Latest Firmware
 
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[Elecraft] K3- How Robust iis the Tuner?

2008-10-13 Thread Lee Buller

Well, I finally got a minute to turn on the K3 this weekend.  Flipped over to 
40 meters and set everything up for some RTTY contacts.  Tuned the tuner and 
let out a call on RTTY at 100 watts during the sprint.

Forgot that I had the Big Tuner in the line set for 20 meters.  Of course the 
SWR was off the scale but the K3 had tuned it to 1:1. After the first 
transmission, I realized this were not right looking at the external meters and 
quickly change things.  The K3 was working OKbutI did smell a stink.  
Smelled like a component got hot.

Now then, the K3 seems works OKtunes up well with the tuner (with the right 
switches in the proper place on the tuner) and it seems OK.  

So, how tough is this tuner in the K3?

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[Elecraft] K3 - Text Decode - Buffer

2008-10-13 Thread David Wilburn
I seem to remember reading something along the way about being able to 
scroll back through the text decode buffers.  I was not able to find 
anything about it in the documentation, but may have missed it.  Is 
this possible?

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[Elecraft] Thinking of selling my K2 wondering about value?

2008-10-13 Thread NZ0T

Now that I have my K3 I am considering selling my K2 #5703, KPA100, KAT100,
KNB2, KSB2, KAF2, K60XV, K160RX built a little over 2 years ago.  I would
appreciate input as to what all this is worth as the deciding factor will be
how much I can get so I can buy a new mobile HF rig (sure wish Elecraft had
one) and then use my old IC-706 MK2 at the lake cabin.  I just don't like
the idea of the K2 sitting at the lake and only being used on weekends and I
have a nice TS-830S i want to keep as backup at home.

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: KRX3 Subrx front panel issues - AuxDSP guilty!

2008-10-13 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

Be nice if I could remember :-)
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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someone dead for 1,000 years. To read is to voyage through time.

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On 13 Oct 2008, at 12:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Be nice if someone who's learnt the hard way could list the oddities  
to look out for, ie DO THIS, DON'T DO THIS.




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Re: [Elecraft] Re: KRX3 Subrx front panel issues - AuxDSP guilty!

2008-10-13 Thread Randy Hargenrader




Ian,

Yes, that was checked many times - I know it seems incredible! hi!
What saved me is there is only one set (of three) male/female spacers.
Sometimes all the tolerances all add up the wrong way - especially for
me! hi!


73,
Randy
K4QO
K2 #00183

Ian Maude wrote:
Randy
Hargenrader wrote:
  
  I think I found the problem. Looks like I
had a screw head on the Aux DSP board bumping up against the main
board. I have it running now - first without the hardware and then now
with it some insulating patches of tape did the trick after
confirming the hardware was bothering something.


Seems to me that ALL the screws holding the AuxDSP to the standoffs
should be the nylon ones sure would have made my life easier!

  
Hi Randy,
  
Are you *sure* you fitted the correct hardware (standoffs etc)? I have
built 3 of these now and not had any issues with hardware etc. It is
easy to get the wrong sized standoff or to miss fitting a washer.
  
  
73 Ian
  
  
  


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Text Decode - Buffer

2008-10-13 Thread Lyle Johnson
I seem to remember reading something along the way about being able to 
scroll back through the text decode buffers...


Possible future enhancement.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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[Elecraft] re: split switch timing

2008-10-13 Thread wayne burdick

Jim, K7EG wrote:

Joe Subich has confirmed that holding SUB button slightly longer than 
a TAP will kill SPLIT.


I'll look into this as soon as I get back from walking my daughter to 
school. Meanwhile, use a short tap!


Sorry for the inconvenience.

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] K3_ CW Sideband_ Sidetone

2008-10-13 Thread Ken Roberson
Hello All,
My first time to ask fer help.
What sideband sud the cw sidetone be on , Upper
or lower sideband .
And how do i change it.
Some bands are set fer lower and some fer upper.
I am using MixW digi mode software and on the waterfall I can c the change when 
i switch
from 20M to 15 M , When the rig is in CW mode.

Tnx 73 Ken K5DNL



  
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Re: [Elecraft] Thinking of selling my K2 wondering about value?

2008-10-13 Thread AD6XY

It is worth more than you will get for it in cash terms. When you sell it you
may miss it and may have to build or buy another one.  I am keeping mine!

However, I believe $600 is the going rate for the basic K3, at least it is
over here in Europe. Yours has many options so could easily be worth perhaps
$1200. I work on the simple principle that new, second hand gear is worth at
most around 2/3 of the current new price. But, K2s and K3s can exceed this.
As it is the 100W model you might get more if you sell the KPA100 and KAT100
separately. The 10W K3 with the transverter interface is a popular driver
for VHF and up and also is still a popular QRP radio, you would probably get
nearly $800 for it and maybe $500-600 for the PA/ATU.

I am not sure why you think the K2/100 is not a good mobile rig. It has
everything necessary except a remote head unit. If it will not fit you might
be better off getting a different vehicle, or sticking with the 706.

Mike



NZ0T wrote:
 
 Now that I have my K3 I am considering selling my K2 #5703, KPA100,
 KAT100, KNB2, KSB2, KAF2, K60XV, K160RX built a little over 2 years ago. 
 I would appreciate input as to what all this is worth as the deciding
 factor will be how much I can get so I can buy a new mobile HF rig (sure
 wish Elecraft had one) and then use my old IC-706 MK2 at the lake cabin. 
 I just don't like the idea of the K2 sitting at the lake and only being
 used on weekends and I have a nice TS-830S i want to keep as backup at
 home.
 
 Respond here or if you want to save bandwidth to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mini plug/jack mis-contact

2008-10-13 Thread a.yoshida

Don

Thanks for your suggestion. I will check all plugs now.

73
aki  ja1nlx

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Aki,

There should be no difference in the various mini-plugs as long as they 
are the 3.5mm type.  If you are using a 2.5mm, it might work for a 
while, but will be loose in the jack and will not make good contact.


If you do have a 3.5mm plug and it is loosing contact, check to be 
certain the jacks protrude through the rear panel sufficiently.  If the 
KIO3 module is not properly seated, the jacks will be recessed and will 
cause the problem you seem to be having.


73,
Don W3FPR

a.yoshida wrote:

I sometimes find that mini plug/jack on the back panel makes
mis-contact. (Line in/out, Speaker etc)
Is there recomended mini plug ?

73
aki  ja1nlx



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Re: Re: [Elecraft] Re: KRX3 Subrx front panel issues - AuxDSP guilty!

2008-10-13 Thread d.cutter

Be nice if someone who's learnt the hard way could list the oddities to look 
out for, ie DO THIS, DON'T DO THIS.


73

David
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Ian,

Yes, that was checked many times - I know it seems incredible! hi!
What saved me is there is only one set (of three) male/female spacers.
Sometimes all the tolerances all add up the wrong way - especially for
me! hi!


73,
Randy
K4QO
K2 #00183

Ian Maude wrote:
Randy
Hargenrader wrote:
  
  I think I found the problem. Looks like I
had a screw head on the Aux DSP board bumping up against the main
board. I have it running now - first without the hardware and then now
with it some insulating patches of tape did the trick after
confirming the hardware was bothering something.


Seems to me that ALL the screws holding the AuxDSP to the standoffs
should be the nylon ones sure would have made my life easier!

  
Hi Randy,
  
Are you *sure* you fitted the correct hardware (standoffs etc)? I have
built 3 of these now and not had any issues with hardware etc. It is
easy to get the wrong sized standoff or to miss fitting a washer.
  
  
73 Ian
  
  
  


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[Elecraft] Microphone ground

2008-10-13 Thread lew
Does the Elecraft require a microphone ground as well as the usual 
ground for its microphone connector? If so, should it go to to pin 7 or 
8 on the  Elecraft mike connector? If not, are both ground connections 
necessary to be made to pins 7  8 in the connector?

  Thanks,
 Lew  W7EW
#1560/1561
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[Elecraft] K3 audio distortion

2008-10-13 Thread Jan Babinec

 Dear fellow Elecrafters,
 I think this topic has fallen into oblivion somehow. 
 Have been using my MD-7506 for many years now with absolute satisfaction 
either for ham purposes or music.
 Not so in combination with K3! In fact the audio sounds terrible. I tried a 
cheap PC headphones with 32ohm
 (MDR-7506 have 64ohm) and they indeed sound much better. Could this be because 
of lower impedance,
 limited frequency response or both? 
 Is there a solution for the poor guys with too good headphones?
 
  Jan OM2XW  K3 
#1382
  
 
Is anyone else experiencing distortion when using the monitor facility onSSB 
?I experience quite severe distortion when using my Sony MD-7506 
headphones,slight distortion with my Heil Pro Set and none with my Yaesu 
YH-77ST. Inother words the wider the frequency response of the headphones, 
the worsethe distortion. In fact it appears the distortion is a high 
frequencycomponent as I can clean it up completely with audio filtering after 
theheadphone or speaker output but it should not be there in the first 
place.It is there with several different microphones but it does not appear 
on thetransmitted signal which is clean.It is not my Sony headphones which 
are at fault as using them the audiothrough my TS2000 monitor is absolutely 
clean.73 Barry Simpson  VK2BJ  K3 #1397
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[Elecraft] Microphone ground

2008-10-13 Thread Don Ehrlich

Good question .. others will answer it but I just had to comment thus...

I have had serious rf pickup problems with all of my radios and several 
different kinds of microphones.  The root problem is that I have ladderline 
coming right into the shack but I can't change that.


Microphone cable shields ought to protect the front end of the audio chain 
in the radio but very often the microphone cable shield is *not* directly 
grounded to the chassis of the radio.  There is a suggestion on the Heil 
website that one can often solve rf pickup problems in the microphone by 
making sure that the microphone cable shield is *directly* connected to the 
metal microphone connector.  Heil makes the point that often the mic 
manufacturer connects the cable shield to one of the pins on the mic 
connector but leaves it to the radio manufacturer to connect that pin to the 
chassis of the radio.


The radio manufacturer designer does connect this pin to the chassis but 
that involves an extra inch or two (or more) of wire in the ground circuit 
and, especially at higher frequencies, that can be enough to allow rf on the 
outside of the mic cable shield to couple to the wiring inside the shield.


I had that problem in spades on 10M and 6M with my K3.  I fixed it by 
connecting the mic shield within the mic connector directly to the metal 
connector shell which, of course, screws onto the mic connector on the radio 
which is bonded to the chassis.  This improvement was suggested by Heil on 
their website.


What kind of mic am I using?  An Elecraft MH2 .. which, I think, is made by 
Heil.  Go figure.


I'll bet I am not the only one with rf-in-the-mic-circuit problems.  So, I 
thought I should pass along my experience.


Don K7FJ


Does the Elecraft require a microphone ground as well as the usual ground 
for its microphone connector? If so, should it go to to pin 7 or 8 on the 
Elecraft mike connector? If not, are both ground connections necessary to 
be made to pins 7  8 in the connector?

  Thanks,
 Lew  W7EW
#1560/1561
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Re: [Elecraft] K3- How Robust iis the Tuner?

2008-10-13 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Lee Buller wrote:
 
 
 So, how tough is this tuner in the K3?
 
 
I don't know, but I have done what you did (though realised it before
causing a stink.) I would really like to have the tuner automatically bypass
when selecting the antenna socket that has the external tuner on it.

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Directoryhttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 
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RE: [Elecraft] K3- How Robust iis the Tuner?

2008-10-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I would think any danger would be to the external tuner or the coaxial link
between the K3 and external tuner.

The built in tuner (or any tuner) simply tries to find a match - compensate
for any reactance and transform the remaining resistive impedance to 50
ohms. It doesn't matter why there's a mismatch. If it can find a match it's
fine. Obviously, the KAT3 is rated to handle any impedance it can match at
up to 100 watts, with a decent safety margin beyond that. 

If the impedance presented to the rear panel is too far off, it should not
be able to find a match and you'll see that on the display, but that wasn't
the case in your situation. 

What possibly happened, assuming you have coaxial line connected to the K3,
is you melted the coax center insulator. That takes a lot of current or
voltage, but a really high SWR can exceed the coax's ratings at significant
power. Remember, the match you see on the K3 display only says that
there's a 50 ohm non-reactive load on the final amplifier in the K3. It says
nothing at all about the impedance (and so SWR) present at the antenna
connector on the back of the K3. 

Usually what happens if you overheat the coax is that it shorts as the
center conductor insulation melts and the center conductor touches the
shield. If it didn't get hot enough long enough for that to happen, you'll
not know about it and everything will be fine unless you check your SWR on
the line. An easy way to do that is to check the SWR at your external tuner,
adjust it to 1:1 and then see if the K3 agrees it's 1:1 with the KAT3 in
bypass. If the coax was damaged enough to move the center conductor
significantly, it will no longer be a 50-ohm cable. But it would  take
pretty extreme damage to show up that way unless you have a very long piece
of coax running between  the K3 and your external tuner.

Ron AC7AC

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3- How Robust iis the Tuner?



Well, I finally got a minute to turn on the K3 this weekend.  Flipped over
to 40 meters and set everything up for some RTTY contacts.  Tuned the tuner
and let out a call on RTTY at 100 watts during the sprint.

Forgot that I had the Big Tuner in the line set for 20 meters.  Of course
the SWR was off the scale but the K3 had tuned it to 1:1. After the first
transmission, I realized this were not right looking at the external meters
and quickly change things.  The K3 was working OKbutI did smell a
stink.  Smelled like a component got hot.

Now then, the K3 seems works OKtunes up well with the tuner (with the
right switches in the proper place on the tuner) and it seems OK.  

So, how tough is this tuner in the K3?

Lee - K0WA
Mistakes are bound to happen


In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you
don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't
find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.
Is Common Sense divine? 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3_ CW Sideband_ Sidetone

2008-10-13 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ken,

The K2 uses high-side LO injection for the bands 17m and below, but for 
15m and above low-side LO injection is used.

What that means is that the K2 'switches sidebands' at 15 meters and above.
That is the reason that the recommended filter/BFO setup is done on one 
of the lower bands (40 meters is usually recommended), and the CW 
filters are set below the filter center and the CWrev filters are set 
higher than the filter center.  The same goes for SSB - LSB is below the 
filter center while USB is above *except* for the 15, 12 and 10 meter 
bands where the sidebands are reversed.  The firmware automatically 
corrects for the shift, but you can see it in a waterfall display.
If you are using the RTTY filters, they are usually set with the 
sidebands like those for CW and SSB, but the normal mode of operation is 
with RTTYrev which will be the upper sideband set.


73,
Don W3FPR

Ken Roberson wrote:

Hello All,
My first time to ask fer help.
What sideband sud the cw sidetone be on , Upper
or lower sideband .
And how do i change it.
Some bands are set fer lower and some fer upper.
I am using MixW digi mode software and on the waterfall I can c the change when 
i switch
from 20M to 15 M , When the rig is in CW mode.

Tnx 73 Ken K5DNL
  


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[Elecraft] K3s on Willis Island (VK9DWX) dxpedition

2008-10-13 Thread George
Check out this website's pix.  Google vk9dwx home site. They are using k3s on 
this little island.
Worked 'em on 40 cw this morning.  Very strong and sweet sigs received here in 
NC.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3- How Robust iis the Tuner?

2008-10-13 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

Maybe it needs to be more robust? Last week I was attempting to tune a
short ladderline fed (via a balun) doublet on 80 meters using the KAT3. The
tuner successfully tuned the system for the cw part of the band, but had
trouble on 75 meters. I tried retuning a few times, and noted smoke and a
burning smell. Now antennas connected to the ANT1 connector are deaf, while
using the ANT2 connector the tuner works fine.

I've successfully used this antenna on 80 meters using an external manual
Palstar balanced tuner, but never got a match using the internal tuner in
my IC756. While the IC756 tuner cannot provide a match, it never was
damaged in my attempts.

On the bright side, Elecraft support is sending a replacement KAT3, no
questions asked.

Steve N9SZ

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[Elecraft] K3: power output variation

2008-10-13 Thread Ralph Parker
K3 #1823 also has the power output variation mentioned earlier by others.

On 20m CW, while calling VK9DWX (split with KRX3 is working just fine),
I noticed that the output, set to 100w, was varying intermittently
by +/- two 'bars' on the output meter.
I later checked it with a dummy load and external wattmeter,
and got the same results, whether sending CW or holding the key down. 

I have not yet tried it into my amp (Acom 1000),
which would yell at me and shut down if overdriven.
I have not yet tried it on SSB.

VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] K3- How Robust iis the Tuner?

2008-10-13 Thread Roy Davis
Just for information, DX Engineering has a good page on their website 
(Choosing the correct balun).  They recommend current type baluns, but 
different ratios for different antenna.  I use a multi band dipole fed with 
ladder line.  I use what they recommend for a multi band dipole.  The 
antenna is cut for the lowest frequency to operate, and use a 1.1 Balun. 
The ladderline is 1/8 multiples of the lowest frequency to operate.  I use 
the 450 ohm ladder line because it was on hand, 300 ohm is what's 
recommended.

With this setup my Palstar tuner tunes easily, and the K3's tuner tunes 
easily as well when used alone with the antenna.

I hope this of interest to the group.

Roy - WK4Y
# 1366


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Maybe it needs to be more robust? Last week I was attempting to tune a
short ladderline fed (via a balun) doublet on 80 meters using the KAT3. The
tuner successfully tuned the system for the cw part of the band, but had
trouble on 75 meters. I tried retuning a few times, and noted smoke and a
burning smell. Now antennas connected to the ANT1 connector are deaf, while
using the ANT2 connector the tuner works fine.

I've successfully used this antenna on 80 meters using an external manual
Palstar balanced tuner, but never got a match using the internal tuner in
my IC756. While the IC756 tuner cannot provide a match, it never was
damaged in my attempts.

On the bright side, Elecraft support is sending a replacement KAT3, no
questions asked.

Steve N9SZ

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[Elecraft] [K3] FLx GN Adding Db gain

2008-10-13 Thread wa6riv
FLx GN

I've bought a 400hz  eight pole CW filter. Although the manual recommends 1-2 
db for a setting, I see that the adjustment can be higher. What setting are 
most CW operator using? I can't tell that there is an improvement. Ted [EMAIL 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FLx GN Adding Db gain

2008-10-13 Thread Lyle Johnson
I've bought a 400hz  eight pole CW filter. Although the manual 
recommends 1-2 db for a setting, I see that the adjustment can be 
higher. What setting are most CW operator using? 


You want to use the setting that most closely compensates for the 
filter's loss.  If you lack a means of measurement, please use the 
recommended value.


73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] Thinking of selling my K2 wondering about value?

2008-10-13 Thread NZ0T

The K2/100 would be hard to mount in a mobile situation and I would not want
to subject a K2 to the harsh mobile enviroment.  

AD6XY wrote:
 
 It is worth more than you will get for it in cash terms. When you sell it
 you may miss it and may have to build or buy another one.  I am keeping
 mine!
 
 However, I believe $600 is the going rate for the basic K2, at least it is
 over here in Europe. Yours has many options so could easily be worth
 perhaps $1200. I work on the simple principle that new, second hand gear
 is worth at most around 2/3 of the current new price. But, K2s and K3s can
 exceed this. As it is the 100W model you might get more if you sell the
 KPA100 and KAT100 separately. The 10W K3 with the transverter interface is
 a popular driver for VHF and up and also is still a popular QRP radio, you
 would probably get nearly $800 for it and maybe $500-600 for the PA/ATU.
 
 I am not sure why you think the K2/100 is not a good mobile rig. It has
 everything necessary except a remote head unit. If it will not fit you
 might be better off getting a different vehicle, or sticking with the 706.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 NZ0T wrote:
 
 Now that I have my K3 I am considering selling my K2 #5703, KPA100,
 KAT100, KNB2, KSB2, KAF2, K60XV, K160RX built a little over 2 years ago. 
 I would appreciate input as to what all this is worth as the deciding
 factor will be how much I can get so I can buy a new mobile HF rig (sure
 wish Elecraft had one) and then use my old IC-706 MK2 at the lake cabin. 
 I just don't like the idea of the K2 sitting at the lake and only being
 used on weekends and I have a nice TS-830S i want to keep as backup at
 home.
 
 Respond here or if you want to save bandwidth to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Thinking of selling my K2 wondering about value?

2008-10-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
The mounting problem is a vehicle dependent consideration, but the 
K2/100 itself will take it.  I know of at least 1 K2/100 which I built 
that was mounted and used in an 'over-the-road, long haul' 18 wheeler 
for a few years, and I never heard of any problems that occurred with 
it.  The owner was quite active while on the road because he enjoyed 
giving new counties on the county hunter net.  I can't think of a more 
harsh mobile environment than that.


73,
Don W3FPR

NZ0T wrote:

The K2/100 would be hard to mount in a mobile situation and I would not want
to subject a K2 to the harsh mobile enviroment.  
  


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[Elecraft] 6M Pre-amp

2008-10-13 Thread Roger
Any news on the 6 meter pre-amp kit?
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Re: [Elecraft] Thinking of selling my K2 wondering about value?

2008-10-13 Thread NZ0T

I'm not questioning the K2's ability to take the punishment as I'm sure it
can rather I just don't want to subject such a nice rig that I spent hours
building to that abuse.  Like I said in my original post I'm just thinking
about selling the K2 and wanted to see what it might be worth.  The more I
think about it I may just take the 830 to the lake tho it's big for a small
cabin and keep the K2 at home next to the K3.

Don Wilhelm-4 wrote:
 
 The mounting problem is a vehicle dependent consideration, but the 
 K2/100 itself will take it.  I know of at least 1 K2/100 which I built 
 that was mounted and used in an 'over-the-road, long haul' 18 wheeler 
 for a few years, and I never heard of any problems that occurred with 
 it.  The owner was quite active while on the road because he enjoyed 
 giving new counties on the county hunter net.  I can't think of a more 
 harsh mobile environment than that.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 NZ0T wrote:
 The K2/100 would be hard to mount in a mobile situation and I would not
 want
 to subject a K2 to the harsh mobile enviroment.  
   

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Re: [Elecraft] Thinking of selling my K2 wondering about value?

2008-10-13 Thread John

At 02:52 PM 13/10/08, you wrote:

 Like I said in my original post I'm just thinking
about selling the K2 and wanted to see what it might be worth.



List it on ebay with a high asking price or reserve price. Ask a high 
price and use the make offer option. That's the best way to determine 
value. If someone meets the high asking price, buy and build 
another  K2. It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it, no 
more, no less.


John
k7up
K3, 2 K2's, K1
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone ground

2008-10-13 Thread Don Wilhelm

Lew,

The mic cable shield should be connected to the shield of the mic plug, 
and in turn the mic jack shell should be connected directly to the 
enclosure by a very short path.  Unfortunately, that does not happen in 
most ham gear constructed on PC Boards - it is easy to connect the shell 
to the board ground, but that is the wrong place, it really should 
connect directly to the metal enclosure for best RF prevention.  See Jim 
Brown's (K9YC) frequent posts referencing 'the pin 1 problem'.
The shield should not be used for any of the signal returns.  Normally 
the PTT return connects to pin 7 and the AF return connects to pin 8.


lew wrote:
Does the Elecraft require a microphone ground as well as the usual 
ground for its microphone connector? If so, should it go to to pin 7 
or 8 on the  Elecraft mike connector? If not, are both ground 
connections necessary to be made to pins 7  8 in the connector?

  Thanks,
 Lew  W7EW
#1560/1561


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Re: [Elecraft] Thinking of selling my K2 wondering about value?

2008-10-13 Thread Ken Kopp

I've done a -lot- of selling on eBay and view it as the ultimate
appraiser.  An item -will- bring what it's worth, even if it's not
what -you- think it's worth. (;-)

73! Ken - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3- How Robust iis the Tuner?

2008-10-13 Thread David Cutter
I use a low and very much bent 2 x 88ft doublet with about 6ft or so of 
450ohm ladder line straight to the PL259.  Tunes top to 10 with low swr.  No 
rf or other earth/ground on the rig.  No rf-in-the-shack problems which 
makes me very lucky,  I think.


David
G3UNA 


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RE: [Elecraft] re: split switch timing

2008-10-13 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Wayne, 

The timing is critical ... but if I try I can cause the issue 
with s/n 1450 and FW 2.46, DSP 1.92. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


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 Subject: [Elecraft] re: split switch timing
 
 
 Jim, K7EG wrote:
 
  Joe Subich has confirmed that holding SUB button slightly 
  longer than a TAP will kill SPLIT.
 
 I'll look into this as soon as I get back from walking my daughter to 
 school. Meanwhile, use a short tap!
 
 Sorry for the inconvenience.
 
 73,
 Wayne
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RE: [Elecraft] [K3] FLx GN Adding Db gain

2008-10-13 Thread Dick Dievendorff
There is a table of first guess filter gain settings that Elecraft uses
for factory-built units in the K3 Utility Help on the Crystal Filter
configuration page.  The 400 Hz 8-pole filter has 7 dB of gain in that
table.

 

After starting with these approximate values, you might measure the AF
voltage at the speaker, perhaps with the alternate VFO B display function
AFV described on page 36 of the owner's manual to display the AF voltage
and set the filter gain settings so that the AF voltage stays relatively
constant as you change bandwidth when tuned to a steady carrier (perhaps
generated by a signal generator).  You could also clip a voltmeter across
the speaker leads.  Some just do this aurally.

 

Dick, K6KR

 

 

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FLx GN

 

I've bought a 400hz  eight pole CW filter. Although the manual recommends
1-2 db for a setting, I see that the adjustment can be higher. What setting
are most CW operator using? I can't tell that there is an improvement. Ted
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RE: [Elecraft] Microphone ground

2008-10-13 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Lew, 

The Elecraft documentation shows the mic ground connected 
to pin 7, the PTT ground connected to pin 8 and both pins 
connected to chassis ground through a common RF choke.  

In some stations, the common RF choke results in common mode 
RF (also known as a Pin 1 problem) feedback. 

The proper connection would be: mic return to pin 7, PTT 
ground (chassis) to the SHELL of the Foster plug and the 
SHIELD of the mic cable to the SHELL of the Foster plug. 
The mic cable SHIELD should NOT be connected to the MIC 
element (it should connect to the CASE or float). 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



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 Does the Elecraft require a microphone ground as well as the usual 
 ground for its microphone connector? If so, should it go to 
 to pin 7 or 
 8 on the  Elecraft mike connector? If not, are both ground 
 connections 
 necessary to be made to pins 7  8 in the connector?
Thanks,
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[Elecraft] A Song to cheer you up

2008-10-13 Thread KBG Luxford
For all the guys and gals awaiting their K3 deliveries, you might like 
to click on this link:

http://www.evamoon.net/audio/upsclip.mp3
(A song about the guy from UPS by Eva Moon)

73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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[Elecraft] [K3] VFO A tracks VFO b, Help

2008-10-13 Thread wa6riv
I updated my firmware and caused a problem. I have not purchased a sub receiver 
and is not installed.
When I'm in VFO A, and do a band change, VFO B follows the same band.
I can swap A=B or B=A, move from A to B or B to A.
But I can't have VFO A on 40 meters and VFO B on 20 meters.
The Band switch transfers both VFO's to the same band at the same time.

What have I done?  Tnx Ted WA6RIV  
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[Elecraft] Low band K3 settings

2008-10-13 Thread Sergei Kulyov
Folks,

just wonder is there the chart with recommended K3 settings for better 
performance on low bands?

Thanks in advance

73, Sergei UA3AP



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio distortion

2008-10-13 Thread Jim - W6VAR

I have the same experience with the Heil Proset ic. Adjustments to TX audio
of 2.4K and 3.2K seem to have the most impact. 

Jim - W6VAR


Jan Babinec wrote:
 
 
  Dear fellow Elecrafters,
  I think this topic has fallen into oblivion somehow. 
  Have been using my MD-7506 for many years now with absolute satisfaction
 either for ham purposes or music.
  Not so in combination with K3! In fact the audio sounds terrible. I tried
 a cheap PC headphones with 32ohm
  (MDR-7506 have 64ohm) and they indeed sound much better. Could this be
 because of lower impedance,
  limited frequency response or both? 
  Is there a solution for the poor guys with too good headphones?
  
   Jan
 OM2XW  K3 #1382
   
  
Is anyone else experiencing distortion when using the monitor facility
onSSB ?I experience quite severe distortion when using my Sony MD-7506
headphones,slight distortion with my Heil Pro Set and none with my Yaesu
YH-77ST. Inother words the wider the frequency response of the headphones,
the worsethe distortion. In fact it appears the distortion is a high
frequencycomponent as I can clean it up completely with audio filtering
after theheadphone or speaker output but it should not be there in the
first place.It is there with several different microphones but it does not
appear on thetransmitted signal which is clean.It is not my Sony
headphones which are at fault as using them the audiothrough my TS2000
monitor is absolutely clean.73 Barry Simpson  VK2BJ  K3 #1397
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[Elecraft] NB - DSP/IF

2008-10-13 Thread Jim - W6VAR

I've had my K3 for about a month now and the NR seems to work very well.
However, I have had little luck with either the DSP or IF NB when I hear
what sounds like electrical noise. There does not appear to be significant
differences between any of the settings and I don't detect an appreciable
differrence in audio (which I would at higher levels of DSP). 

Thoughts?

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