[Elecraft] K3 numbers

2012-02-10 Thread John Lemay
Hi all

I'm writing a short article about the K3 for my club magazine. I'd like to
include a couple of statistics:-

How many K3's have been produced ?

How many were kit form ?

Ball park figures only.

Thanks

John G4ZTR

 

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[Elecraft] [K3] New 472kHz LF band

2012-02-10 Thread David Pratt
I see from the report of WRC-12 that a new band 472-479kHz is to be
allocated on a world-wide basis with an eirp of 5W (1W in some
countries).  The K3 receiver currently goes down to 490kHz.  Is there
any likelihood that this could be extended down to cover the new band?

http://www.rsgb.org/news/articlelinks.php?id=0284

73 de David G4DMP
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[Elecraft] OT Ham Radio Presentation to local 4 H club

2012-02-10 Thread Brian Linn
My kids are involved in 4 H. I'll be hosting this Sunday's meeting and
giving a talk about HAM radio. The talk will be followed by on air activity,
which will be more fun if we find some stations to work!  See below if you'd
like to encourage some kids about our hobby.

 

What: HAM station demonstration

Audience: local 4 H club (mostly kids aged 10 - 14)

Station: KD0HII, Des Moines, Iowa

Date: Sunday, Feb. 12, 2012

Time: approx 03:30 CT (2130 Zulu) - might start a few minutes later, depends
on various factors.

On Air: Hope to call CQ and let the kids work some stations

Frequency: on or about 14.3035

 

73 Brian KD0HII

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 synthesizer problem

2012-02-10 Thread briana
Has he done a cold reset?

It really sounds like there is no antenna attached in that band segment.

Has he tried simply removing the antenna/dummy load connection and see 
if the results are the same?
If so, then clearly the antenna choice needs to be examined.

I'd be willing to bet his K3 has an antenna tuner.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 2/9/2012 9:14 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
 You've never said whether or not you can receive OK in those band
 segments.  If so, I doubt that the synth board would be the problem.

 Dave   AB7E



 On 2/9/2012 5:07 PM, Tom Kramer wrote:

 I am a new person in this group and I will admit that I have not looked at 
 many of the hundreds of previous posts so I will apologize in advance for 
 being a bit lazy if this topic has been dealt with before.

 I have a home assembled K3 SN 4210 that has developed a most annoying 
 problem. I have exchanged a number of emails with Gary Surrency about this 
 with basically no conclusion and an apparent lack of desire to solve it.

 I discovered that when attempting to transmit between 24,910.0 and 24,930.0 
 the swr bar graph shows a pulsating full scale reading and the dial reads 
 SWR between 9:1 and 12:1, and power output of maybe 20 watts. Outside this 
 range SWR is normal and power output is full 100 watts. This can be into a 
 resonant antenna or dummy load.
 I have done the synthesizer calibration preceded of course by the ADC ref 
 calibration multiple times. I sent Gary a list of all the parameters 
 outputted by these tests and he says all look to be in the normal range. I 
 have since discovered that the same problem appears between 28,500 and 
 29,000 Khz as well. I am trying to keep this somewhat short so I didn't 
 supply every detail of the testing.
 Have other people experienced this and what if any solution did you find? 
 Gary suggests a new synthesizer board @ $200+ but no at this point there is 
 no guarantee that will fix the problem.  I have made arrangements to test 
 this with another K3 next week, but curious if this problem is something new.
 Tom NQ7R
 Casa Grande, AZ

  
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New 472kHz LF band

2012-02-10 Thread Trevor Smithers
David G4DMP said
 Is there
any likelihood that this could be extended down to cover the new band?

Failing that how about an Elecraft designed, fully filtered, fully integrated, 
high stability, 
VLF up converter covering 5KHz to 500KHz.

This would cater for the Natural Radio listeners, Alpha stations, numerous high 
power 
transmissions used by hams as propagation beacons, 136KHz band, NDB hunters and 
the new 472KHz allocation.  

Trevor  G0KTN

 Original Message 

I see from the report of WRC-12 that a new band 472-479kHz is to be
allocated on a world-wide basis with an eirp of 5W (1W in some
countries).  The K3 receiver currently goes down to 490kHz.  Is there
any likelihood that this could be extended down to cover the new band?

http://www.rsgb.org/news/articlelinks.php?id=0284

73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New 472kHz LF band

2012-02-10 Thread David Pratt
I very much doubt that Elecraft would be interested in producing such a
device, Trevor, particularly as similar VLF up converters are already
available.  My query was really questioning whether the existing K3
could be adapted for the forthcoming new band.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Trevor Smithers tsmith...@cix.co.uk writes
how about an Elecraft designed, fully filtered, fully integrated, high
stability,
VLF up converter covering 5KHz to 500KHz.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and Remoterig

2012-02-10 Thread Ron Gould
Do you just call to order or wait for a posting?
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[Elecraft] K3 and K2 simultaneous on serial to USB cables to computer

2012-02-10 Thread KM4VX
I have both my K2 and K3 connected via  serial to USB cables, but I cannot
get the computer to recognize the K2.  The K3 is connected via the Elecraft
serial to USB cable and works fine. The K2 uses a serial to USB adapter, but
the computer refuses to recognize the K2 adapter and insists on going to the
K3. I imagine because both are called serial to USB adapters.  I know this
is more of a computer question than a K2/K3 issue and maybe the computer
can't recognize two serial to USB connections. Any recommendations for
forcing the computer to recognize the K2 or using a different adapter? The
cable from IO2 on the K2 is correct. The serial to USB adapter for the K2
may be inferior. Even when I disconnect the K3 serial to USB cable, the
computer will still not recognize the K2 connection. Thanks.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 simultaneous on serial to USB cables to computer

2012-02-10 Thread Chip Stratton
Ron -

You might consider getting a 4 port USB to Serial adapter. I have my
IC-7000, K2, and W1 wattmeter connected to one and all three are
accessbile, each with its own com port assignment.

The one I purchased is based on the FTDI chipset, like the Elecraft
KUSB adapter, and was abt $44 from Amazon. Search for:
4 Port RS232 FT4232HL Professional USB to Serial Adapter

Chip
AE5KA

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:03 AM, KM4VX ronce...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I have both my K2 and K3 connected via  serial to USB cables, but I cannot
 get the computer to recognize the K2.  The K3 is connected via the Elecraft
 serial to USB cable and works fine. The K2 uses a serial to USB adapter, but
 the computer refuses to recognize the K2 adapter and insists on going to the
 K3. I imagine because both are called serial to USB adapters.  I know this
 is more of a computer question than a K2/K3 issue and maybe the computer
 can't recognize two serial to USB connections. Any recommendations for
 forcing the computer to recognize the K2 or using a different adapter? The
 cable from IO2 on the K2 is correct. The serial to USB adapter for the K2
 may be inferior. Even when I disconnect the K3 serial to USB cable, the
 computer will still not recognize the K2 connection. Thanks.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 simultaneous on serial to USB cables to computer

2012-02-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
Chip,

Your post was epic. This device is exactly what I was looking for my set up 
with my K3, RCS-1, the LP Panadapter and my soon to be installed SteppIR 
controller. I ordered it from Amazon two minutes after I read your post.

The Elecraft reflector rules!

Thanks,

Keith
AG6AZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 simultaneous on serial to USB cables tocomputer

2012-02-10 Thread PKA
In the KPA100 Manual there is a warning not to use standard RS-232 cables 
between the K2 SIO and a PC (only pins 2, 3 and 5 are normally connected)
Would it not be a similar problem using a serial to USB adapter?
Poul-Erik
OZ4UN 
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På vegne af Chip Stratton
Sendt: 10. februar 2012 15:32
Til: KM4VX
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Emne: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 simultaneous on serial to USB cables tocomputer

Ron -

You might consider getting a 4 port USB to Serial adapter. I have my IC-7000, 
K2, and W1 wattmeter connected to one and all three are accessbile, each with 
its own com port assignment.

The one I purchased is based on the FTDI chipset, like the Elecraft KUSB 
adapter, and was abt $44 from Amazon. Search for:
4 Port RS232 FT4232HL Professional USB to Serial Adapter

Chip
AE5KA

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:03 AM, KM4VX ronce...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I have both my K2 and K3 connected via  serial to USB cables, but I 
 cannot get the computer to recognize the K2.  The K3 is connected via 
 the Elecraft serial to USB cable and works fine. The K2 uses a serial 
 to USB adapter, but the computer refuses to recognize the K2 adapter 
 and insists on going to the K3. I imagine because both are called 
 serial to USB adapters.  I know this is more of a computer question 
 than a K2/K3 issue and maybe the computer can't recognize two serial 
 to USB connections. Any recommendations for forcing the computer to 
 recognize the K2 or using a different adapter? The cable from IO2 on 
 the K2 is correct. The serial to USB adapter for the K2 may be 
 inferior. Even when I disconnect the K3 serial to USB cable, the computer 
 will still not recognize the K2 connection. Thanks.

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[Elecraft] Just a head's up on hacked email address

2012-02-10 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
It appears Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, K5EWJ email has been hacked. 

I just received the I've been mugged in London phishing email. Seen this
one several times before...

73,
Julius
n2wn

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Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

Tennessee QSO Party
http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2#4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
Elecraft K3/100 
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Re: [Elecraft] Just a head's up on hacked email address

2012-02-10 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I have indeed been attacked.  I am not in London and I am not in need of cash 
any more than usual.  Sorry about the intrusion. 
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:24 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Just a head's up on hacked email address
 
It appears Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, K5EWJ email has been hacked. 

I just received the I've been mugged in London phishing email. Seen this
one several times before...

73,
Julius
n2wn

-
Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

Tennessee QSO Party
http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2        #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
Elecraft K3/100 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 numbers

2012-02-10 Thread Igor Sokolov
My friend RV9CTD got his K3/10 kit  on the 7th of February. Two days later 
he is on the air. His K3 serial number is 6166.
Just for your article, Elecraft refuses sending assembled equipment to 
Russia because such parcels are often stopped and returned to sender by 
Russian custom. Anything sent in kit form has no problems. Looks like 
Russian customs want Russian hams to turn into trained kit builders.

73, Igor UA9CDC
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From: John Lemay j...@carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk
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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:44 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 numbers


 Hi all

 I'm writing a short article about the K3 for my club magazine. I'd like to
 include a couple of statistics:-

 How many K3's have been produced ?

 How many were kit form ?

 Ball park figures only.

 Thanks

 John G4ZTR



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[Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

2012-02-10 Thread David Christ
The CRT on my shack computer is dying and I am in the market for a 
new 23-24 flat screen.  However there is very little (read none) 
information relative to RFI.  I have heard anecdotal stories that LG 
is good and Samsung is RFI susceptible.  But they are pure hearsay.

I would appreciate any information about or experience with which 
monitors work well in a hamshack environment.

If you don't want to take up reflector bandwidth, reply direct.  I 
will summarize if necessary.

David K0LUM
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[Elecraft] OK to Use Quantum Loop v2.0 Active Antenna w/KX3 for MW Receive?

2012-02-10 Thread hlkent
Would the use of the Quantum Loop v2.0 active antenna with the KX-3 be
advisable?  Obviously, it would not be acceptable for transmit, but would
such a device be safe bet for MW receive?  (My concern would be that it not
damage the KX-3.)  It has been able to co-exist just fine with my Drake R8B,
i.e., no overload, etc.

As a disabled ham who also enjoys MW DXing, I'd love for the KX-3 to be my
single solution for both hobbies, as I am often confined to bed for
protracted periods.  Thanks for any help you can provide.

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Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

2012-02-10 Thread Jack Berry
Using an ASUS from Newegg with absolutely no problems. I think the model is 
VH238 or 238H, manufactured Dec 2010.





From: David Christ radio...@mchsi.com
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Fri, February 10, 2012 9:36:58 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

The CRT on my shack computer is dying and I am in the market for a 
new 23-24 flat screen.  However there is very little (read none) 
information relative to RFI.  I have heard anecdotal stories that LG 
is good and Samsung is RFI susceptible.  But they are pure hearsay.

I would appreciate any information about or experience with which 
monitors work well in a hamshack environment.

If you don't want to take up reflector bandwidth, reply direct.  I 
will summarize if necessary.

David K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

2012-02-10 Thread Tommy Alderman
I think your information is incorrect? I use a Samsung SyncMaster 932BW
(24) with the left edge of it sitting four inches from my Alpha 9500 amp
that I certainly do run at the full 1500 watts output during contest. I have
run Acer 15 and NEC 17 and Samsung 27 sitting next to my amp and have
never had any indication whatsoever of RFI issues. I do have all of my
equipment (including PC) bonded to a rather complete ground system that is
tied into my tower ground system and my AC power system.

Tom - W4BQF


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Christ
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:37 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

The CRT on my shack computer is dying and I am in the market for a 
new 23-24 flat screen.  However there is very little (read none) 
information relative to RFI.  I have heard anecdotal stories that LG 
is good and Samsung is RFI susceptible.  But they are pure hearsay.

I would appreciate any information about or experience with which 
monitors work well in a hamshack environment.

If you don't want to take up reflector bandwidth, reply direct.  I 
will summarize if necessary.

David K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

2012-02-10 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
Just because one Samsung model doesn't have a problem doesn't mean
that all Samsungs are OK!

I bought a LCD monitor from Costco a couple of years ago - I'm fairly
sure it was a Samsung. It didn't have real buttons, but some sort of
touch-sensitive mechanism. Unfortunately it also turned out to be
RF-sensitive, and would turn the monitor off, or bring up the config
menu, etc., when I transmitted on certain frequencies. I returned it,
and bought a Viewsonic, which has real buttons, and have had no
problems with that one.

YMMV, of course

~iain / N6ML



On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Tommy Alderman
alderm...@windstream.net wrote:
 I think your information is incorrect? I use a Samsung SyncMaster 932BW
 (24) with the left edge of it sitting four inches from my Alpha 9500 amp
 that I certainly do run at the full 1500 watts output during contest. I have
 run Acer 15 and NEC 17 and Samsung 27 sitting next to my amp and have
 never had any indication whatsoever of RFI issues. I do have all of my
 equipment (including PC) bonded to a rather complete ground system that is
 tied into my tower ground system and my AC power system.

 Tom - W4BQF


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Christ
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

 The CRT on my shack computer is dying and I am in the market for a
 new 23-24 flat screen.  However there is very little (read none)
 information relative to RFI.  I have heard anecdotal stories that LG
 is good and Samsung is RFI susceptible.  But they are pure hearsay.

 I would appreciate any information about or experience with which
 monitors work well in a hamshack environment.

 If you don't want to take up reflector bandwidth, reply direct.  I
 will summarize if necessary.

 David K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 synthesizer problem NQ7R

2012-02-10 Thread Keith
Try re-tuning the KAT3 auto tuner, or bypassing it.
Try tightening the 3 LPA screws on the bottom (the ones with lock washers).
Keith

On 2/9/2012 4:07 PM, Tom Kramer wrote:
 I am a new person in this group and I will admit that I have not looked at 
 many of the hundreds of previous posts so I will apologize in advance for 
 being a bit lazy if this topic has been dealt with before.

 I have a home assembled K3 SN 4210 that has developed a most annoying 
 problem. I have exchanged a number of emails with Gary Surrency about this 
 with basically no conclusion and an apparent lack of desire to solve it.

 I discovered that when attempting to transmit between 24,910.0 and 24,930.0 
 the swr bar graph shows a pulsating full scale reading and the dial reads SWR 
 between 9:1 and 12:1, and power output of maybe 20 watts. Outside this range 
 SWR is normal and power output is full 100 watts. This can be into a resonant 
 antenna or dummy load.
 I have done the synthesizer calibration preceded of course by the ADC ref 
 calibration multiple times. I sent Gary a list of all the parameters 
 outputted by these tests and he says all look to be in the normal range. I 
 have since discovered that the same problem appears between 28,500 and 29,000 
 Khz as well. I am trying to keep this somewhat short so I didn't supply every 
 detail of the testing.
 Have other people experienced this and what if any solution did you find? 
 Gary suggests a new synthesizer board @ $200+ but no at this point there is 
 no guarantee that will fix the problem.  I have made arrangements to test 
 this with another K3 next week, but curious if this problem is something new.
 Tom NQ7R
 Casa Grande, AZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

2012-02-10 Thread John Lemay
I think it's more important to consider the proximity of the monitor to the
aerial, rather than the amplifier. With a bit of luck, it's the aerial doing
the transmitting and receiving, not the amplifier. This brings several
variables into the equation, such as aerial gain and direction (if any),
height and distance from the shack. Add to that short list; power levels,
receive sensitivity, frequency in use and background noise levels 

These variables will no doubt ensure a host of different answers for similar
monitors !

John G4ZTR


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell -
N6ML
Sent: 10 February 2012 16:19
To: Tommy Alderman
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

Just because one Samsung model doesn't have a problem doesn't mean
that all Samsungs are OK!

I bought a LCD monitor from Costco a couple of years ago - I'm fairly
sure it was a Samsung. It didn't have real buttons, but some sort of
touch-sensitive mechanism. Unfortunately it also turned out to be
RF-sensitive, and would turn the monitor off, or bring up the config
menu, etc., when I transmitted on certain frequencies. I returned it,
and bought a Viewsonic, which has real buttons, and have had no
problems with that one.

YMMV, of course

~iain / N6ML



On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Tommy Alderman
alderm...@windstream.net wrote:
 I think your information is incorrect? I use a Samsung SyncMaster 932BW
 (24) with the left edge of it sitting four inches from my Alpha 9500 amp
 that I certainly do run at the full 1500 watts output during contest. I
have
 run Acer 15 and NEC 17 and Samsung 27 sitting next to my amp and have
 never had any indication whatsoever of RFI issues. I do have all of my
 equipment (including PC) bonded to a rather complete ground system that is
 tied into my tower ground system and my AC power system.

 Tom - W4BQF


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Christ
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

 The CRT on my shack computer is dying and I am in the market for a
 new 23-24 flat screen.  However there is very little (read none)
 information relative to RFI.  I have heard anecdotal stories that LG
 is good and Samsung is RFI susceptible.  But they are pure hearsay.

 I would appreciate any information about or experience with which
 monitors work well in a hamshack environment.

 If you don't want to take up reflector bandwidth, reply direct.  I
 will summarize if necessary.

 David K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 simultaneous on serial to USB cables to computer

2012-02-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
You will need to make a jumper cable between the K2 and your serial-to-USB 
cable.  See Figure 7 on Page 13 of the KIO2 manual for the connections.

Bob, N7XY

On Feb 10, 2012, at 6:03 AM, KM4VX wrote:

 I have both my K2 and K3 connected via  serial to USB cables, but I cannot
 get the computer to recognize the K2.  The K3 is connected via the Elecraft
 serial to USB cable and works fine. The K2 uses a serial to USB adapter, but
 the computer refuses to recognize the K2 adapter and insists on going to the
 K3. I imagine because both are called serial to USB adapters.  I know this
 is more of a computer question than a K2/K3 issue and maybe the computer
 can't recognize two serial to USB connections. Any recommendations for
 forcing the computer to recognize the K2 or using a different adapter? The
 cable from IO2 on the K2 is correct. The serial to USB adapter for the K2
 may be inferior. Even when I disconnect the K3 serial to USB cable, the
 computer will still not recognize the K2 connection. Thanks.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 AUX button and RJ-45

2012-02-10 Thread n5ge

Jack et al,

I like the way the AUX button is set up.  I couln't resist tapping it the first
day I had the amp, and it did exactly what Jack said. :o)

KUDOs to Jack and the folks that worked on the KPA500 development.  Its a job
magnificently done.

Tom, N5GE

The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women
submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments.
George Washington.

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:13:07 -0800, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@earthlink.net
wrote:

As I noted in an email to Bruce, the only current use for the AUX  
button is to tell the K3 that the button has been pushed. The K3  
firmware currently then selects the 2 meter transverter.

As on the K3, the RJ-45 is used for factory testing and development.

Jack B, W6FB

[snip]

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Re: [Elecraft] sub receiver

2012-02-10 Thread n5ge

You're gonna love it!

Tom, N5GE licensed 1976 as WN5QGE

The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women
submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments.
George Washington.

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:40:02 -0600, k...@att.net wrote:

I've had my ticket since 1974 (WN4IKG)  I have owned over 25 rigs but never 
had one with two receivers. I 've always worked split with two VFOs but after 
a few emails from you guys and thinking about it (brain taxing) I can see 
where the second receiver would be useful. When I was working the HK0NA group, 
I just transmitted where they said they were listening but they had about a 10 
kHz spread so it was a guess whether they would hear me or not. It would be 
nice to know exactly where they are listening.  Thanks for the advice.  Love 
the reflector.  
Shipped my K2 off this morning and sold my IC 7000 last weekend. I am sans rig 
until this afternoon when UPS comes!
I haven't been without a rig in I don't know how long!  Its lonely.

John KE4D


My K3/100 kit arrives tomorrow. I did not order the sub receiver. I have
only a vertical here and have some antenna restrictions (height) I use a
SteppIR BigIR and it works great for me with my height restriction. So,
unless one of you can explain to me why I should have the sub receiver with
only one antenna, I'm leaving it the with one! I'm sure I don't understand
receiver diversity since I never heard of it until recently. Guide me!

John KE4D
K3 SN 
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Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

2012-02-10 Thread Jim Brown

 Samsung 27 sitting next to my amp

Proximity to your AMP does not matter unless your amp is an un-shielded 
piece of trash, which I doubt,. What matters is proximity to your ANTENNAS!

The only RFI issues I've seen from video monitors of any sort are RF 
trash that THEY generate.  A couple of years ago, I bought a cheapie for 
my shack that was VERY noisy. I killed it with a multi-turn ferrite 
choke on the power cable.

73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Ken Alexander
I have some interference problems with my receivers and have been 
reading Jim K9YCs excellent article on the subject.  It sounds like type 
31 ferrite toroids will be the answer to some of my problems and I'm 
interestedin buying some.

I had always considered Fair-Rite to be the main source of just about 
everything made of ferrite, and Jim mentions them several times in his 
article.  However, Fair-Rite's online catalog does not list them in 
their toroid section, nor are they shown in their downloadable PDF catalog.

I'm pretty sure Amidon doesn't have them either.  Where else can I 
look?  Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS

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Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

2012-02-10 Thread Tony Estep
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:18 AM, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org 
wrote:
... it was a Samsung. It didn't have real buttons, but some sort of
 touch-sensitive mechanism. Unfortunately it also turned out to be
 RF-sensitive, and would turn the monitor off, or bring up the config
 menu, etc
==
Yes, this has been reported on here before. I had the same symptoms
with my Samsung XL2370 but my older 2333 with hardware buttons works
fine with no problems. Another ham, a VK if I recall, had a
soft-button Samsung and fixed the rf sensitivity with a clever trick:
He stuck copper foil over the soft buttons and grounded it with a
short strap.


Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 synthesizer problem

2012-02-10 Thread Dyarnes
NQ7R and all,

Tom, that does sound like a very odd problem.  I Don't remember seeing it 
discussed previously here.  However, your suggestion that Gary Surrency may 
be lacking in interest to solve it doesn't sound like Gary at all!  He has 
been around the Elecraft scene, almost from inception, and has always been 
very responsive, and he is very good at identifying problem resolutions!  My 
guess is that he may simply have run out of ideas without being able to get 
hands on.  Not every problem can be solved by email.  It also appears that 
the two of you have exchanged several emails, and that doesn't sound like 
someone who is not trying to be helpful.

I suppose if you have another K3 around, and could substitute one 
synthesizer board for another that way, you could probably determine whether 
or not Gary's suggestion is correct.  He's probably suggesting that to avoid 
your having to send the rig to Elecraft for service, but that really may be 
your best option due to the uncertainty.  Maybe you could just send them 
your synthesizer board and they could test it somehow.  That might be even 
easier, from a shipping standpoint.  However, maybe that's not a practical 
approach for whatever reason.

Anyway, I know rig problems are depressing, and I sympathize with your 
frustration.  There's a tendency to feel abused, since everyone else's rig 
seems to be working fine, but yours isn't!  Unfortunately, bad things can 
happen to good people!  However, I sincerely believe you are in better hands 
with Elecraft than you would be with just about any other manufacturer. 
When rig problems develop, and you can't fix them yourself, you have to 
bite the bullet somewhat.  You just have to work with them to determine 
the most expeditious way of resolving the problem.  By the way, if I had to 
guess, I'd bet Gary is probably close to right in his suggestion, but since 
he can't be positive, he obviously can't give you any guarantees.  Unless 
some other option comes to mind, I'd probably just send the rig in and be 
done with it.  Besides, there is usually the additional benefit of them 
possibly identifying other anomalies, which they could then deal with 
without necessitating another trip back and forth.  Kind of like getting a 
20,000 mile service on your car!

Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

2012-02-10 Thread Tommy Alderman
I'm not selling anything and I'm not buying anything! A question was asked
about a monitor, which happened to be a Samsung, and I was only providing a
firsthand experience that none of my Samsung monitors, or any other brand of
monitor that I have used at my station,  have had the problems mentioned by
the email originator. Of course if one does not put their station together
in a manner that minimizes RFI, it possible that NO monitor could withstand
that environment.

Tom - W4BQF


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From: John Lemay [mailto:j...@carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:48 AM
To: 'iain macdonnell - N6ML'; 'Tommy Alderman'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

I think it's more important to consider the proximity of the monitor to the
aerial, rather than the amplifier. With a bit of luck, it's the aerial doing
the transmitting and receiving, not the amplifier. This brings several
variables into the equation, such as aerial gain and direction (if any),
height and distance from the shack. Add to that short list; power levels,
receive sensitivity, frequency in use and background noise levels 

These variables will no doubt ensure a host of different answers for similar
monitors !

John G4ZTR


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell -
N6ML
Sent: 10 February 2012 16:19
To: Tommy Alderman
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

Just because one Samsung model doesn't have a problem doesn't mean
that all Samsungs are OK!

I bought a LCD monitor from Costco a couple of years ago - I'm fairly
sure it was a Samsung. It didn't have real buttons, but some sort of
touch-sensitive mechanism. Unfortunately it also turned out to be
RF-sensitive, and would turn the monitor off, or bring up the config
menu, etc., when I transmitted on certain frequencies. I returned it,
and bought a Viewsonic, which has real buttons, and have had no
problems with that one.

YMMV, of course

~iain / N6ML



On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Tommy Alderman
alderm...@windstream.net wrote:
 I think your information is incorrect? I use a Samsung SyncMaster 932BW
 (24) with the left edge of it sitting four inches from my Alpha 9500 amp
 that I certainly do run at the full 1500 watts output during contest. I
have
 run Acer 15 and NEC 17 and Samsung 27 sitting next to my amp and have
 never had any indication whatsoever of RFI issues. I do have all of my
 equipment (including PC) bonded to a rather complete ground system that is
 tied into my tower ground system and my AC power system.

 Tom - W4BQF


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 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Christ
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

 The CRT on my shack computer is dying and I am in the market for a
 new 23-24 flat screen.  However there is very little (read none)
 information relative to RFI.  I have heard anecdotal stories that LG
 is good and Samsung is RFI susceptible.  But they are pure hearsay.

 I would appreciate any information about or experience with which
 monitors work well in a hamshack environment.

 If you don't want to take up reflector bandwidth, reply direct.  I
 will summarize if necessary.

 David K0LUM
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[Elecraft] WANTED: 2T Generator

2012-02-10 Thread W1KSZ
Anyone have one they want to part with ?

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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[Elecraft] KX1 has LED switching noise

2012-02-10 Thread Paul Signorelli

My old 2003 KX1 has low level LED/CPU switching noise.
The switching noise frequency is lower on L1 and higher (and amplitude higher)  
on L6 (Brightest Level #6).
L4 is about 80 Hz.
Maybe the aluminum bypass (C10, C12) capacitors are opening up.
i hear it on all bands (I have an 80, 40, 30, 20 meter KX1) and at any battery 
voltage.
Anyone solve this issue?
Paul  w0rw
  
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[Elecraft] K3 SN 6226

2012-02-10 Thread k...@att.net
Got it last evening and am on the with cw. I get  tx err with my hM2 mike but 
I'm sure it's something simple. Haven't yet set band power for the KPA500 but 
that is next. Nice job Elecraft. Nothing missing and other than a cockpit error 
with the filter set up, no issues. 

John KE4D
K3 SN 6226
KPA500 SN 636

John Veach

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Re: [Elecraft] sub receiver

2012-02-10 Thread KQ8M
I was licensed also in 1974 (WN8JSQ) and the K3 was my first new rig. I have
never had a radio with 2 receivers till I got the K3. I first had the
experience, though, with dual receiver radios at the contest station of
K8AZ. I just had to have one. I wear headphones, so I have the DX in my left
ear and transmit freq in my right. Oh what heaven it is. I can find the DX's
listening Freq. so much faster and easier.

Tim Herrick, KQ8M, ex WB8JSQ, WN8JSQ
North Coast Contesters
k...@kq8m.com

K3 Serial #5934


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You're gonna love it!

Tom, N5GE licensed 1976 as WN5QGE

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submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments.
George Washington.

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:40:02 -0600, k...@att.net wrote:

I've had my ticket since 1974 (WN4IKG)  I have owned over 25 rigs but never
had one with two receivers. I 've always worked split with two VFOs but
after a few emails from you guys and thinking about it (brain taxing) I can
see where the second receiver would be useful. When I was working the HK0NA
group, I just transmitted where they said they were listening but they had
about a 10 kHz spread so it was a guess whether they would hear me or not.
It would be nice to know exactly where they are listening.  Thanks for the
advice.  Love the reflector.  
Shipped my K2 off this morning and sold my IC 7000 last weekend. I am sans
rig until this afternoon when UPS comes!
I haven't been without a rig in I don't know how long!  Its lonely.

John KE4D


My K3/100 kit arrives tomorrow. I did not order the sub receiver. I have
only a vertical here and have some antenna restrictions (height) I use a
SteppIR BigIR and it works great for me with my height restriction. So,
unless one of you can explain to me why I should have the sub receiver with
only one antenna, I'm leaving it the with one! I'm sure I don't understand
receiver diversity since I never heard of it until recently. Guide me!

John KE4D
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Craig Smith
Hi Ken …

Just checked the Fair-rite website, and the type 31 cores are indeed there.  
But they aren't easy to find.   You need to go to Products then Cable 
components then EMI suppression beads.

They have a wide variety of part numbers using type 31 material.

I buy mine from Mouser which has no minimum order quantities, good stocking, 
reasonable prices and wonderful delivery and service.  I can't speak to their 
service to Canada.   I've bought many different PNs of type 31 from them.  
After you find the PNs you are interested in from the Fair-rite site, do a 
search on those PNs in the Mouser site.

Have fun  73
   … Craig   AC0DS

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 numbers

2012-02-10 Thread W7GJ, Lance
Hello Igor!

PSE tell your friend that I am ready to run a JT65A sked with him when he gets 
an amp 
and license for 6m!  I am eagerly awaiting the chance to run with some UA9 
stations 
on 6m EME during your moonrise!  GL and VY 73, Lance



On 2/10/2012 3:33 PM, Igor Sokolov-2 [via Elecraft] wrote:
 My friend RV9CTD got his K3/10 kit on the 7th of February. Two days later
 he is on the air. His K3 serial number is 6166.
 Just for your article, Elecraft refuses sending assembled equipment to
 Russia because such parcels are often stopped and returned to sender by
 Russian custom. Anything sent in kit form has no problems. Looks like
 Russian customs want Russian hams to turn into trained kit builders.

 73, Igor UA9CDC
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/10/2012 10:23 AM, Ken Alexander wrote:
 However, Fair-Rite's online catalog does not list them in
 their toroid section, nor are they shown in their downloadable PDF catalog.

They are there -- you have to look under the EMC products, not inductive 
products. Same thing, but the inductive parts are tested for inductance 
at low frequencies while the EMC parts are tested for impedance at 
higher frequencies.  See Appendix One of the RFI tutorial for Fair-Rite 
part numbers and a list of known good sources.  Off the top of my head, 
Allied, Newark, Digikey, Kreiger, Lodestone Pacific come to mind.  It 
pays to shop around, and to buy in quantity, combining quantities with 
your ham neighbors and clubs.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] WANTED: 2T Generator

2012-02-10 Thread Frederick Atchley
Dick,

I have one that I don't need since I got the K3. Works well. Looks good on
O'scope.

I'll include some minor attachments (remote on/off).

Is $40 (your check). It fits in small US Mail box. 73, Fred

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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Jack Smith
Kits and Parts stocks some 31 cores. http://www.kitsandparts.com/

Mouser carries the large 2.4 diameter 31 material core, a bit cheaper 
than Kits and Parts. 623-2631803802

If you search Mouser for part numbers beginning with 2631 and 
Manufacturer = Fair=Rite you will find several other sizes of 31 
material cores available.

Jack K8ZOA


On 2/10/2012 1:23 PM, Ken Alexander wrote:
 I have some interference problems with my receivers and have been
 reading Jim K9YCs excellent article on the subject.  It sounds like type
 31 ferrite toroids will be the answer to some of my problems and I'm
 interestedin buying some.

 I had always considered Fair-Rite to be the main source of just about
 everything made of ferrite, and Jim mentions them several times in his
 article.  However, Fair-Rite's online catalog does not list them in
 their toroid section, nor are they shown in their downloadable PDF catalog.

 I'm pretty sure Amidon doesn't have them either.  Where else can I
 look?  Any thoughts?

 Thanks in advance

 73,

 Ken Alexander
 VE3HLS

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[Elecraft] How much is enough?

2012-02-10 Thread Frank MacDonell
I like building QRP radios. What is the group's opinion on basic 
test/calibration equipment one should have in the shack? Thanks in advance!
Frank KD8FIP

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[Elecraft] How to turn off the KPA500?

2012-02-10 Thread fserota
At the risk of embarassing myself I am curious as to how folks are tuning off
their KPA500. That is, do you just use the front panal button or both the
front panel botton and the rear panel rocker switch, once the fan stops?

I understand the need for both, that the fan won't run and deplete the power
supply without power from the rear rocker switch. But are people leaving the
rear switch on when done for the night?

Also, should we run the KPA500 through a surge protector? With the current
draw, it would probably be a dedicated surge protector. At the moment I have
it plugged directly into the wall. All my other equipment, except an Alpha
that uses 230v, is surge protected. i unplug the Alpha when off air for a
long time or when an electrical storm is brewing.

Not a big issue. Just curious what is the best operating practice here.

Fred, K3BHX

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 simultaneous on serial to USB cables to computer

2012-02-10 Thread Chip Stratton
Yes, and I'm using an appropriately wired serial jumper between the K2
and the USB to serial adapter.

I also have not tried any PTT/CW keying with this adapter, so can't
comment on that.

Chip
AE5KA

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Bob Nielsen n...@clearwire.net wrote:
 You will need to make a jumper cable between the K2 and your serial-to-USB 
 cable.  See Figure 7 on Page 13 of the KIO2 manual for the connections.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 has LED switching noise

2012-02-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul,

There is a very small amount of that noise on any KX1, but it is not 
enough to raise the noise floor of the receiver.

If the noise in your KX1 is large enough to interfere with weak signals, 
then it is excessive and should be fixed.  Your guess about the 
capacitors is a good starting place - often electrolytics develop a 
higher ESR as they age.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/10/2012 1:48 PM, Paul Signorelli wrote:
 My old 2003 KX1 has low level LED/CPU switching noise.
 The switching noise frequency is lower on L1 and higher (and amplitude 
 higher)  on L6 (Brightest Level #6).
 L4 is about 80 Hz.
 Maybe the aluminum bypass (C10, C12) capacitors are opening up.
 i hear it on all bands (I have an 80, 40, 30, 20 meter KX1) and at any 
 battery voltage.
 Anyone solve this issue?
 Paul  w0rw
   
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[Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?

2012-02-10 Thread Mike Walsh
Hi,

My KPA500 does a couple of things that seem a bit odd.  Other KPA owners - do 
your KPAs also do the following?

1)  When I transmit a 500 watt carrier while displaying TEMP the displayed 
temperature drops 5 degrees C.  When I release the key the temperature goes 
immediately back to the real value.  Lower transmit power levels cause a 
correspondingly lower drop in displayed temp.  This behavior causes the temp 
display to bounce around while transmitting CW.

2) When I power down my KPA the fan turns on (as it should) and then the right 
most POWER LED flashes on an off quickly.  Is that LED flash normal?

Thanks and 73,

Mike - ke5akl
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SN 6226 KE4D

2012-02-10 Thread Keith
For the MH2, go to the main menu MIC SEL and select FPL BIAS by 
rotating the Main VFO and tapping 1 and 2 to toggle things.
Keith

On 2/10/2012 10:48 AM, k...@att.net wrote:
 Got it last evening and am on the with cw. I get  tx err with my hM2 mike but 
 I'm sure it's something simple. Haven't yet set band power for the KPA500 but 
 that is next. Nice job Elecraft. Nothing missing and other than a cockpit 
 error with the filter set up, no issues.

 John KE4D
 K3 SN 6226
 KPA500 SN 636

 John Veach

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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Ken Alexander
Nope!  I can't find what you're talking about.  There's something wrong when 
someone have to provide a tutorial on how to navigate their website.  Somebody 
should be thinking maybe our website isn't that easy to use.

Anyway, never mind.  I'll try Digi-Key , Mouser, etc.

Thanks Jim.

Ken




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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 2:01:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids
 
On 2/10/2012 10:23 AM, Ken Alexander wrote:
 However, Fair-Rite's online catalog does not list them in
 their toroid section, nor are they shown in their downloadable PDF catalog.

They are there -- you have to look under the EMC products, not inductive 
products. Same thing, but the inductive parts are tested for inductance 
at low frequencies while the EMC parts are tested for impedance at 
higher frequencies.  See Appendix One of the RFI tutorial for Fair-Rite 
part numbers and a list of known good sources.  Off the top of my head, 
Allied, Newark, Digikey, Kreiger, Lodestone Pacific come to mind.  It 
pays to shop around, and to buy in quantity, combining quantities with 
your ham neighbors and clubs.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] How much is enough?

2012-02-10 Thread Tony Estep
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...basic test/calibration equipment one should have...

Frank, you'll get plenty of opinions, but in addition to the obvious
stuff I would highly recommend the LC meter kit at:
http://www.aade.com/lcmeter.htm

Since you like building, you'll like this kit. It gives much more
accurate readings of L and C than the LC readings on my fancy digital
VOM, and it's a great help when winding and/or debugging toroids and
identifying capacitors with tiny cryptic markings or none at all.

Of course, you need a VOM, maybe a nice signal generator like the
XG-3, and an RF probe for your VOM. I love my scope but it's certainly
not a necessity. I also have an audio generator I built from a
Sparkfun kit that could sometimes be helpful.

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Re: [Elecraft] How much is enough?

2012-02-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Frank,

Build your array of test equipment around your needs - and build it up 
as you have need.

If you are building kit radios, then you may only need a DMM and a good 
dummy load.  OTOH, if you are designing and testing your own 
experimental designs or building from a schematic you discovered, you 
may need more than that.

An oscilloscope is really a handy tool, and a frequency counter is also 
good to have.  A precision dummy load and an oscilloscope with a 10X 
probe will allow you to measure RF power - of course, the Elecraft DL1 
qualifies and has a built-in detector diode.  An RF Probe will work in 
many cases in place of the oscilloscope.

Signal generators are also good to have - the Elecraft XG3 is quite a 
versatile generator
You need a PC with a soundcard at the workbench - so you can run 
Spectrogram or SpectrumLab and have a mini-DB and mini-Ring-Core 
calculators available - there is a lot that you can do with a PC on the 
workbench.

I would refer you to the Measurements chapter of Experimental Methods in 
RF Design (ARRL Publication) for a more complete list of test 
equipment.  The degree of precision you need/want to achieve will 
dictate your selection of equipment.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/10/2012 2:11 PM, Frank MacDonell wrote:
 I like building QRP radios. What is the group's opinion on basic 
 test/calibration equipment one should have in the shack? Thanks in advance!
 Frank KD8FIP

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[Elecraft] K3 8 pole 700hz filter FYI

2012-02-10 Thread Keith Hamilton
FYI about a 700hz CW filter for the K3

I originally posted here looking for a used 700hz filter for my K3. Since then
plans have been made to have Inrad do a small run of these filters. If you think
you may be interested in getting one of these filters, you can get details at
www.unpcbs.com

Disclaimer: I do not work for unpcbs!  I have no monetary interest in the 
production
of these filters for the K3. I am only trying to get the word out so all my 
Elecraft 
friends can have the opportunity to order one of these filters before it's too 
late.

73
Keith N8CEP


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Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?

2012-02-10 Thread n5ge

1) With CW carrier; Temperature rises as I hold down the straight key.
Temerature falls when releasing the key.  While sending CW (dits and dahs)
Temperature rises.  When I release the keyer paddles the temp begins to fall
within about 2 seconds.

2) Same as yours.

Temerature behavior will be different according to you fan speed settings.  I
have mine set at the factory settings. The first stage comes on first and then
escalates as the temperature rises.  I've never heard the fan speed escalate
above 3. 

73,
Tom
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:28:10 -0800 (PST), Mike Walsh ke5...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi,

My KPA500 does a couple of things that seem a bit odd.  Other KPA owners - do 
your KPAs also do the following?

1)  When I transmit a 500 watt carrier while displaying TEMP the displayed 
temperature drops 5 degrees C.  When I release the key the temperature goes 
immediately back to the real value.  Lower transmit power levels cause a 
correspondingly lower drop in displayed temp.  This behavior causes the temp 
display to bounce around while transmitting CW.

2) When I power down my KPA the fan turns on (as it should) and then the right 
most POWER LED flashes on an off quickly.  Is that LED flash normal?

Thanks and 73,

Mike - ke5akl

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Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?

2012-02-10 Thread Mike Walsh
Hi and thanks for the replies.  

However, I think people are misunderstanding my question about the TEMP 
display.  When I hit the key to send a 500 watt carrier the display instantly 
drops 5 degrees C and instantly goes back up to the real temperature when I 
release the key.  It's that instant change in displayed temperature that I'm 
asking about, not the relatively slow increase or decrease associated with the 
real heating and cooling of the amp.  Do others see that instant decrease on 
transmit?? 

73 and Thanks,

Mike - ke5akl



 From: n...@n5ge.com n...@n5ge.com
To: Mike Walsh ke5...@yahoo.com 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?
 

1) With CW carrier; Temperature rises as I hold down the straight key.
Temerature falls when releasing the key.  While sending CW (dits and dahs)
Temperature rises.  When I release the keyer paddles the temp begins to fall
within about 2 seconds.

73,
Tom

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:28:10 -0800 (PST), Mike Walsh ke5...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi,

My KPA500 does a couple of things that seem a bit odd.  Other KPA owners - do 
your KPAs also do the following?

1)  When I transmit a 500 watt carrier while displaying TEMP the displayed 
temperature drops 5 degrees C.  When I release the key the temperature goes 
immediately back to the real value.  Lower transmit power levels cause a 
correspondingly lower drop in displayed temp.  This behavior causes the temp 
display to bounce around while transmitting CW.

2) When I power down my KPA the fan turns on (as it should) and then the right 
most POWER LED flashes on an off quickly.  Is that LED flash normal?

Thanks and 73,

Mike - ke5akl
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Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?

2012-02-10 Thread Fred Jensen
1.  Key down [or RTTY TX], mine rises, fan steps up, temp stabilizes.
When I unkey, temp begins to fall.  Sending CW, temp may fall a deg or 
so when I first send, then it rises.  It usually rises another deg or so
after I stop sending before falling again.  I figure it's thermal
inertia for the PA heat to propagate to the sensor.

2.  The 700 LED flashes once during the fan power-down cycle.

3.  Tapping AUX QSY's the K3 to 10m.  Don't know why, but I won't tap 
AUX again and it won't be a problem.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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 On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:28:10 -0800 (PST), Mike
 Walshke5...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Hi,

 My KPA500 does a couple of things that seem a bit odd.  Other KPA
 owners - do your KPAs also do the following?

 1)  When I transmit a 500 watt carrier while displaying TEMP the
 displayed temperature drops 5 degrees C.  When I release the key
 the temperature goes immediately back to the real value.  Lower
 transmit power levels cause a correspondingly lower drop in
 displayed temp.  This behavior causes the temp display to bounce
 around while transmitting CW.

 2) When I power down my KPA the fan turns on (as it should) and
 then the right most POWER LED flashes on an off quickly.  Is that
 LED flash normal?

 Thanks and 73,

 Mike - ke5akl

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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Ken Alexander
Son of a gun!  I was right there but I was fooled by the illustration of the 
bead.  I left the page when I thought I was looking at beads and never did 
check the dimensions, but there they are!

Thanks Craig!

73 - Ken




 From: Craig Smith cr...@powersmith.net
To: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:54:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids
 
Hi Ken …

Just checked the Fair-rite website, and the type 31 cores are indeed there.  
But they aren't easy to find.   You need to go to Products then Cable 
components then EMI suppression beads.

They have a wide variety of part numbers using type 31 material.

I buy mine from Mouser which has no minimum order quantities, good stocking, 
reasonable prices and wonderful delivery and service.  I can't speak to their 
service to Canada.   I've bought many different PNs of type 31 from them.  
After you find the PNs you are interested in from the Fair-rite site, do a 
search on those PNs in the Mouser site.

Have fun  73
                           … Craig   AC0DS
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Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?

2012-02-10 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mike Walsh ke5...@yahoo.com wrote:
 My KPA500 does a couple of things that seem a bit odd.  Other KPA owners - do 
 your KPAs also do the following?

 1)  When I transmit a 500 watt carrier while displaying TEMP the displayed 
 temperature drops 5 degrees C.  When I release the key the temperature goes 
 immediately back to the real value.  Lower transmit power levels cause a 
 correspondingly lower drop in displayed temp.  This behavior causes the temp 
 display to bounce around while transmitting CW.

This does NOT sound normal, and is something I think you should worry
about right away. If the temp sensor is not functioning correctly, you
could cause damage by not having the fans engage at the appropriate
speeds, and over-temp protection mechanisms could fail to be invoked.

Suggest contacting Elecraft support for guidance on this...

~iain / N6ML
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[Elecraft] [OT][MM]: Announcement of Test Bench Mini-Module Enclosures now available

2012-02-10 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
I've been under the weather the last couple of days, so I decided that 
while I was laying around on the couch, I may as well do something 
productive like finally update my website ;-) So here is the formal 
announcement of my Test Bench line of mini-module enclosures. I've 
been making them for the last couple of years and selling them by word 
of mouth (keyboard). Here is a link to the Test Bench Enclosure page on 
my site: http://w8fgu.home.comcast.net/~w8fgu/tbencl.html

These enclosures were designed through the suggestions of Don Wilhelm, 
W3FPR, who wanted the ability to stack the modules, in their enclosures, 
on top of each other when stowed away to save on bench top footprint and 
provide better organization for finding them again ;-) I made the 
dimensions of these enclosures all the same for that purpose. I 
dimensioned them for the module with the largest width (CP1) and longest 
length (BL2). The exception was the AT1 enclosure which is the same 
width, but slightly longer to accommodate PCB length (it serves as a 
nice base for the others).

All connectors (BNC, power, RCA etc.) have been externalized for easy 
access and a sliding top provided to access any other controls on the 
PCB for each module. The top slides in a track at the top of the 
enclosure and is held in place by a magnetic strip. An optional power 
switch may also be provided for modules that have a power switch. This 
upgrade provides the switch, installed on the enclosure, with a pair of 
hookup wires pre-soldered to the switch for later attachment to the PCB 
power switch.

The Test Bench line consists of enclosures for the following Elecraft 
mini-Modules:*
*- 2T-gen 2-Tone Test Oscillator
- AT1 41 dB HF/VHF Switched Attenuator
- BL2  Wideband 1:1  4:1 (Switchable) 250W Balun
- CP1 Directional Coupler
- DL1 Wideband 20W Dummy Load
- N-gen Wideband Noise Generator
- XG2 Three Band Receiver Test Oscillator / S-Meter Calibrator

I will continue to provide the initial design of enclosures for the BL2 
and DL1 as they are more field use friendly. All of these enclosures 
are made from polycarbonate sheet which is quite strong and should hold 
up to the rigors of bouncing around and occasional dropping.

Feel free to contact me off list for any other questions, comments or 
concerns.

Thanks for the bandwidth!

73,
Dave W8FGU

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Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?

2012-02-10 Thread Oliver Dröse
Mike,

that sounds like a voltage drop under load, i.e. lower voltage to the temp 
measurement sensor and thus a lower reading under load. Maybe time to 
contact Elecraft support? Possibly a fault in one of the low voltage 
generating components. Does not seem to be normal.

73  gl, Olli - DH8BQA
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To: n...@n5ge.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?


Hi and thanks for the replies.

However, I think people are misunderstanding my question about the TEMP 
display. When I hit the key to send a 500 watt carrier the display instantly 
drops 5 degrees C and instantly goes back up to the real temperature when I 
release the key. It's that instant change in displayed temperature that I'm 
asking about, not the relatively slow increase or decrease associated with 
the real heating and cooling of the amp. Do others see that instant decrease 
on transmit??

73 and Thanks,

Mike - ke5akl



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To: Mike Walsh ke5...@yahoo.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?


1) With CW carrier; Temperature rises as I hold down the straight key.
Temerature falls when releasing the key. While sending CW (dits and dahs)
Temperature rises. When I release the keyer paddles the temp begins to fall
within about 2 seconds.

73,
Tom

-- American Indian comment about Daylight Saving Time --


On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:28:10 -0800 (PST), Mike Walsh ke5...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

Hi,

My KPA500 does a couple of things that seem a bit odd. Other KPA owners - 
do your KPAs also do the following?

1) When I transmit a 500 watt carrier while displaying TEMP the displayed 
temperature drops 5 degrees C. When I release the key the temperature goes 
immediately back to the real value. Lower transmit power levels cause a 
correspondingly lower drop in displayed temp. This behavior causes the temp 
display to bounce around while transmitting CW.

2) When I power down my KPA the fan turns on (as it should) and then the 
right most POWER LED flashes on an off quickly. Is that LED flash normal?

Thanks and 73,

Mike - ke5akl
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Lew Phelps K6LMP
Amidon also carries a wide range of beads made from 31 Material. Specifically, 
13 round wire type beads and 12 snap-on beads, with prices ranging from 75 
cents each to about $20 each, depending on size. 

You can order directly from www.amidon.com. 

Lew K6LMP


On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Ken Alexander wrote:

 Son of a gun!  I was right there but I was fooled by the illustration of the 
 bead.  I left the page when I thought I was looking at beads and never did 
 check the dimensions, but there they are!
 
 Thanks Craig!
 
 73 - Ken
 
 
 
 
 From: Craig Smith cr...@powersmith.net
 To: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com 
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:54:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids
 
 Hi Ken …
 
 Just checked the Fair-rite website, and the type 31 cores are indeed there.  
 But they aren't easy to find.   You need to go to Products then Cable 
 components then EMI suppression beads.
 
 They have a wide variety of part numbers using type 31 material.
 
 I buy mine from Mouser which has no minimum order quantities, good stocking, 
 reasonable prices and wonderful delivery and service.  I can't speak to their 
 service to Canada.   I've bought many different PNs of type 31 from them.  
 After you find the PNs you are interested in from the Fair-rite site, do a 
 search on those PNs in the Mouser site.
 
 Have fun  73
… Craig   AC0DS
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Craig Smith
Good Deal Ken.   Also they have a selection of type 31 clamp-on cores listed 
under Snap-Its.

73  Craig   AC0DS


On 10, Feb2012, at 1:45 PM, Ken Alexander wrote:

 Son of a gun!  I was right there but I was fooled by the illustration of the 
 bead.  I left the page when I thought I was looking at beads and never did 
 check the dimensions, but there they are!
 
 
 

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[Elecraft] test gear...oscilloscopes

2012-02-10 Thread John Ragle
Frank...

 I grew up in the era of Tektronix 'scopes, etc. but now that I'm 
fully grown (for the moment) I would like to suggest the following:

(a) If you really want an ancient boat anchor/piece of iron and 
aluminum, then look no further than the myriad ads in eBay's Ham Radio 
section, but

(b) if you want something that is handy, look into the PicoScope family, 
e.g. the PicoScope 2104 / 2105. These are hand-held digital scopes the 
size of an old-style Tektronix PROBE, and work with the computer that 
Don Wilhelm has already suggested as being a necessity. I have one, and 
am very pleased with it. The cost is ~$150 for the low-end model.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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[Elecraft] KPA500 PWR ADJ Figures

2012-02-10 Thread dpopski
Lets try this again. Out of the more than 600 + KPA500 owners I would think I 
could get some information from more than 1 guy in Elecraft land. 

Here is what I want to know. 

If you have a factory assembled KPA500, what is the PWR ADJ number per band as 
shown in the menu under PWR ADJ? Since Elecraft should have calibrated the 
watt meter at the factory and they don't the kits, this would give me a good 
reference point to calibrate a kit . 

If you built a kit and calibrated your watt meter with a known source, then 
what is the PWR ADJ number per band ? 

73 
David KC8IV 
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Craig Smith
Fair-rite




On 10, Feb2012, at 2:10 PM, Dick Stein wrote:

 Hi Craig: Who is the vendor  They when you say they have a selection?  
 Dick, K2ZR/4

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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Eugene Balinski
I have used Amidon products in the past.  Good quality.

73
Gene K1NR

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:01:55 -0800
 Lew Phelps K6LMP k6...@me.com wrote:
 Amidon also carries a wide range of beads made from 31
 Material. Specifically, 13 round wire type beads and 12
 snap-on beads, with prices ranging from 75 cents each to
 about $20 each, depending on size. 
 
 You can order directly from www.amidon.com. 
 
 Lew K6LMP
 
 
 On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Ken Alexander wrote:
 
  Son of a gun!  I was right there but I was fooled by
 the illustration of the bead.  I left the page when I
 thought I was looking at beads and never did check the
 dimensions, but there they are!
  
  Thanks Craig!
  
  73 - Ken
  
  
  
  
  From: Craig Smith cr...@powersmith.net
  To: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com 
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:54:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids
  
  Hi Ken …
  
  Just checked the Fair-rite website, and the type 31
 cores are indeed there.  But they aren't easy to find.
   You need to go to Products then Cable components then
 EMI suppression beads.
  
  They have a wide variety of part numbers using type 31
 material.
  
  I buy mine from Mouser which has no minimum order
 quantities, good stocking, reasonable prices and
 wonderful delivery and service.  I can't speak to their
 service to Canada.   I've bought many different PNs of
 type 31 from them.  After you find the PNs you are
 interested in from the Fair-rite site, do a search on
 those PNs in the Mouser site.
  
  Have fun  73
 … Craig   AC0DS
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/10/2012 1:01 PM, Lew Phelps K6LMP wrote:
 Amidon also carries a wide range of beads made from 31 Material. 
 Specifically, 13 round wire type beads and 12 snap-on beads, with prices 
 ranging from 75 cents each to about $20 each, depending on size.

Amidon is probably the most expensive place to buy this stuff.  All of 
those sources I mentioned, as well as Mouser, are MUCH cheaper.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Byron Servies
I have purchased boxes of type 31 from Kreiger.  They are fast, and
their web site was recently re-done to be much easier to navigate.

73, Byron N6NUL

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:
 On 2/10/2012 10:23 AM, Ken Alexander wrote:
 However, Fair-Rite's online catalog does not list them in
 their toroid section, nor are they shown in their downloadable PDF catalog.

 They are there -- you have to look under the EMC products, not inductive
 products. Same thing, but the inductive parts are tested for inductance
 at low frequencies while the EMC parts are tested for impedance at
 higher frequencies.  See Appendix One of the RFI tutorial for Fair-Rite
 part numbers and a list of known good sources.  Off the top of my head,
 Allied, Newark, Digikey, Kreiger, Lodestone Pacific come to mind.  It
 pays to shop around, and to buy in quantity, combining quantities with
 your ham neighbors and clubs.

 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Ken Alexander
I have always bought from Amidon before.  It sounds like they're a major 
distributor though, and not the manufacturer, which is Fair-Rite, correct?

73 - Ken




 From: Eugene Balinski euge...@nni.com
To: Lew Phelps K6LMP k6...@me.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net List 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:24:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids
 
I have used Amidon products in the past.  Good quality.

73
Gene K1NR

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:01:55 -0800
Lew Phelps K6LMP k6...@me.com wrote:
 Amidon also carries a wide range of beads made from 31
 Material. Specifically, 13 round wire type beads and 12
 snap-on beads, with prices ranging from 75 cents each to
 about $20 each, depending on size. 
 
 You can order directly from www.amidon.com. 
 
 Lew K6LMP
 
 
 On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Ken Alexander wrote:
 
  Son of a gun!  I was right there but I was fooled by
 the illustration of the bead.  I left the page when I
 thought I was looking at beads and never did check the
 dimensions, but there they are!
  
  Thanks Craig!
  
  73 - Ken
  
  
  
  
  From: Craig Smith cr...@powersmith.net
  To: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com 
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:54:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids
  
  Hi Ken …
  
  Just checked the Fair-rite website, and the type 31
 cores are indeed there.  But they aren't easy to find.
   You need to go to Products then Cable components then
 EMI suppression beads.
  
  They have a wide variety of part numbers using type 31
 material.
  
  I buy mine from Mouser which has no minimum order
 quantities, good stocking, reasonable prices and
 wonderful delivery and service.  I can't speak to their
 service to Canada.   I've bought many different PNs of
 type 31 from them.  After you find the PNs you are
 interested in from the Fair-rite site, do a search on
 those PNs in the Mouser site.
  
  Have fun  73
                             … Craig   AC0DS
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/10/2012 11:35 AM, Ken Alexander wrote:
 Somebody should be thinking maybe our website isn't that easy to use.

It's designed for engineers who are looking for a wide variety of 
ferrite parts for a wide variety of uses. From where I sit, Fair-Rite 
has by far the best technical website I've ever seen, and nothing else 
I've seen in the last 30 years is close.  Their published data is 100 
times more detailed and informative than any of their competitors. A lot 
of what I know about ferrite materials I've learned by studying their 
published data. To get as much and as good data as theirs you've got to 
go back at least three decades to publications like the huge data books 
published by companies like National, Motorola, GE, Fairchild, and RCA 
for their semiconductors and tubes, and Electro-Voice for their 
microphones and loudspeakers.

Historically, Fair-Rite has also very good about supplying engineering 
samples for those doing real design work.  When I first began the 
studies that led to all of the work I've published, Fair-Rite provided 
me with hundreds of samples of several dozen parts I requested, never 
asking anything beyond the normal questions a regional rep would ask. 
It's paid off for them -- the #31 toroids EXIST because I asked for 
them, and thanks at least in part to the work I've published on using 
multi-turn chokes, the #31 material has replaced older materials for 
suppression at MF and HF.

73, Jim Brown K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Dick Lindzen
What is the URL for Kreiger?

73, Dick WO1I

At 10:34 PM 2/10/2012, Byron Servies wrote:
I have purchased boxes of type 31 from Kreiger.  They are fast, and
their web site was recently re-done to be much easier to navigate.

73, Byron N6NUL

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:
  On 2/10/2012 10:23 AM, Ken Alexander wrote:
  However, Fair-Rite's online catalog does not list them in
  their toroid section, nor are they shown in their downloadable 
 PDF catalog.
 
  They are there -- you have to look under the EMC products, not inductive
  products. Same thing, but the inductive parts are tested for inductance
  at low frequencies while the EMC parts are tested for impedance at
  higher frequencies.  See Appendix One of the RFI tutorial for Fair-Rite
  part numbers and a list of known good sources.  Off the top of my head,
  Allied, Newark, Digikey, Kreiger, Lodestone Pacific come to mind.  It
  pays to shop around, and to buy in quantity, combining quantities with
  your ham neighbors and clubs.
 
  73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Bob K6UJ
I have used W8DIZ for my torroids.
Check out his website and slide down to torroids, he carries a good inventory.  
I think his prices are pretty good too.

http://www.partsandkits.com/


73,
Bob
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On Feb 10, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Byron Servies wrote:

 I have purchased boxes of type 31 from Kreiger.  They are fast, and
 their web site was recently re-done to be much easier to navigate.
 
 73, Byron N6NUL
 
 On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com 
 wrote:
 On 2/10/2012 10:23 AM, Ken Alexander wrote:
 However, Fair-Rite's online catalog does not list them in
 their toroid section, nor are they shown in their downloadable PDF catalog.
 
 They are there -- you have to look under the EMC products, not inductive
 products. Same thing, but the inductive parts are tested for inductance
 at low frequencies while the EMC parts are tested for impedance at
 higher frequencies.  See Appendix One of the RFI tutorial for Fair-Rite
 part numbers and a list of known good sources.  Off the top of my head,
 Allied, Newark, Digikey, Kreiger, Lodestone Pacific come to mind.  It
 pays to shop around, and to buy in quantity, combining quantities with
 your ham neighbors and clubs.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Byron Servies
Sorry, I spelled their name wrong:

http://www.kregercomponents.com/

are the folks I have used.  Their site will now tell you how many are
in a factory box, too, which as Jim K9YC recommends is a good way to
limit breakage.  They do a very good job packing smaller orders, too,
though.

73, Byron N6NUL

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Dick Lindzen rlind...@mit.edu wrote:
 What is the URL for Kreiger?

 73, Dick WO1I


 At 10:34 PM 2/10/2012, Byron Servies wrote:

 I have purchased boxes of type 31 from Kreiger.  They are fast, and
 their web site was recently re-done to be much easier to navigate.

 73, Byron N6NUL

 On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
 wrote:
  On 2/10/2012 10:23 AM, Ken Alexander wrote:
  However, Fair-Rite's online catalog does not list them in
  their toroid section, nor are they shown in their downloadable PDF
  catalog.
 
  They are there -- you have to look under the EMC products, not inductive
  products. Same thing, but the inductive parts are tested for inductance
  at low frequencies while the EMC parts are tested for impedance at
  higher frequencies.  See Appendix One of the RFI tutorial for Fair-Rite
  part numbers and a list of known good sources.  Off the top of my head,
  Allied, Newark, Digikey, Kreiger, Lodestone Pacific come to mind.  It
  pays to shop around, and to buy in quantity, combining quantities with
  your ham neighbors and clubs.
 
  73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?

2012-02-10 Thread Bob Wolbert, K6XX
Sounds like RF is getting into the temperature meter circuit. Probably 
not a big deal, as 5C is only one fan speed step, but might as well 
clean it up.


73 de Bob, K6XX

On 2/10/2012 12:30 PM, Mike Walsh wrote:
 Hi and thanks for the replies.

 However, I think people are misunderstanding my question about the TEMP 
 display.  When I hit the key to send a 500 watt carrier the display instantly 
 drops 5 degrees C and instantly goes back up to the real temperature when I 
 release the key.  It's that instant change in displayed temperature that I'm 
 asking about, not the relatively slow increase or decrease associated with 
 the real heating and cooling of the amp.  Do others see that instant decrease 
 on transmit??

 73 and Thanks,

 Mike - ke5akl


 
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 To: Mike Walshke5...@yahoo.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.netelecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?


 1) With CW carrier; Temperature rises as I hold down the straight key.
 Temerature falls when releasing the key.  While sending CW (dits and dahs)
 Temperature rises.  When I release the keyer paddles the temp begins to fall
 within about 2 seconds.

 73,
 Tom

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 On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:28:10 -0800 (PST), Mike Walshke5...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Hi,

 My KPA500 does a couple of things that seem a bit odd.  Other KPA owners - 
 do your KPAs also do the following?

 1)  When I transmit a 500 watt carrier while displaying TEMP the displayed 
 temperature drops 5 degrees C.  When I release the key the temperature goes 
 immediately back to the real value.  Lower transmit power levels cause a 
 correspondingly lower drop in displayed temp.  This behavior causes the temp 
 display to bounce around while transmitting CW.

 2) When I power down my KPA the fan turns on (as it should) and then the 
 right most POWER LED flashes on an off quickly.  Is that LED flash normal?

 Thanks and 73,

 Mike - ke5akl
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/10/2012 1:39 PM, Ken Alexander wrote:
 I have always bought from Amidon before.  It sounds like they're a major 
 distributor though, and not the manufacturer, which is Fair-Rite, correct?

Amidon does not make this stuff. They are a distributor of Fair-Rite and 
some other manufacturers, and NOT a good one. I'd bet there's no one 
there who has a clue about anything technical. There USED to be a ham 
there whose name was Amidon, but he's LONG LONG gone, and any technical 
data there is a leftover from his days.  They are selling now whatever 
they sold then, for WILDLY high mark-ups as compared to most others.

I recently bought some transistors and a few small kits from W8DIZ 
(preamps for use with Beverages and small voltage regulators). Fair 
prices for what I bought, good service, and the kits were nicely done. 
For toroids though I would go to the big guys -- it would be tough for 
him to buy in enough quantity to offer good prices except for the few 
coils used in his kits.

73, Jim K9YC.
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 PWR ADJ Figures

2012-02-10 Thread Keith
Start at 100 for every band.  If you were to reset the memory, it will 
default to 100 on each band.
That is where we start at the factory.
Keith

On 2/10/2012 1:20 PM, dpop...@comcast.net wrote:
 Lets try this again. Out of the more than 600 + KPA500 owners I would think I 
 could get some information from more than 1 guy in Elecraft land.

 Here is what I want to know.

 If you have a factory assembled KPA500, what is the PWR ADJ number per band 
 as shown in the menu under PWR ADJ? Since Elecraft should have calibrated 
 the watt meter at the factory and they don't the kits, this would give me a 
 good reference point to calibrate a kit .

 If you built a kit and calibrated your watt meter with a known source, then 
 what is the PWR ADJ number per band ?

 73
 David KC8IV
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Fred Jensen
On 2/10/2012 2:05 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
 On 2/10/2012 1:39 PM, Ken Alexander wrote:

 Amidon does not make this stuff. They are a distributor of Fair-Rite
 and some other manufacturers, and NOT a good one. I'd bet there's no
 one there who has a clue about anything technical. There USED to be a
 ham there whose name was Amidon, but he's LONG LONG gone, and any
 technical data there is a leftover from his days.

Many years ago [as in maybe 54], I needed a ferrite core for a 4:1 
balun.  DX Engineering hadn't been invented then.  I drove over to 
Amidon [N. Hollywood/Burbank-ish] which turned out to be a suburban 
house.  A fellow, who's name was Amidon opened the door, installed me in 
a living room filled to the brim with all sorts of boxes and stuff, 
rummaged around in a bedroom and finally came up with the toroid core. 
He wanted a lot for the core, in fact more than the 16 year old had.  He 
finally asked me where I had come from, and when I told him S. Central 
LA, he gave me the core.

The balun didn't work, probably because I wound it wrong.  I'm really 
surprised they are still in business.

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] AT1 Step Attenuator Case?

2012-02-10 Thread erehm
Ha!  I already bought one of your enclosures for the DL1 dummy load.  Great
to know there's one for the AT1, NGEN, XG2 in addition to what's listed on
your site.  I'll email you about price.


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Re: [Elecraft] Source for Type 31 Toroids

2012-02-10 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Fred Jensen wrote:
On 2/10/2012 2:05 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
 On 2/10/2012 1:39 PM, Ken Alexander wrote:

 Amidon does not make this stuff. They are a distributor of Fair-Rite
 and some other manufacturers, and NOT a good one. I'd bet there's no
 one there who has a clue about anything technical. There USED to be a
 ham there whose name was Amidon, but he's LONG LONG gone, and any
 technical data there is a leftover from his days.

Many years ago [as in maybe 54], I needed a ferrite core for a 4:1
balun.  DX Engineering hadn't been invented then.  I drove over to
Amidon [N. Hollywood/Burbank-ish] which turned out to be a suburban
house.  A fellow, who's name was Amidon opened the door, installed me in
a living room filled to the brim with all sorts of boxes and stuff,
rummaged around in a bedroom and finally came up with the toroid core.
He wanted a lot for the core, in fact more than the 16 year old had.  He
finally asked me where I had come from, and when I told him S. Central
LA, he gave me the core.

The balun didn't work, probably because I wound it wrong.  I'm really
surprised they are still in business.


Any company handling anonymous grey toroids needs to have perfect stock 
control... and Amidon still don't. I was sold a large number of #31 
toroids which turned out to be #43 material.

So if you do buy from Amidon, check the weight!

2631803802 = FT240-31: 112-114g  [1]
2643803802 = FT240-43: 120-122g  [1]
5961003801 = FT240-61: 104-106g

Original data from G3TXQ, since verified from dependable suppliers.

[1] The Fair-Rite data sheet says 118.000g for both of these cores, 
but in fact the weights of #31 and #43 are distinctly different.


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Re: [Elecraft] How to turn off the KPA500?

2012-02-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
That's a very legitimate question Fred.

With modern gear containing processors (like the KPA500, K3, etc.), it's
always a good idea to shut it down using the front-panel power switch. This
ensures that the processor gets to do an orderly shut down, just as it's
always good to shut down a pc using the keyboard instead of just pulling
the plug.

There is a very small current drain after it is shut down. That's the
current required to keep the logic alive so it can detect when you press the
POWER button to turn it on again. That's the same sort of drain your TV,
cable box, etc., all have when supposedly off. Switching off the power on
the back panel will stop that drain if it's of concern to you. 

73,

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-

At the risk of embarassing myself I am curious as to how folks are tuning
off
their KPA500. That is, do you just use the front panal button or both the
front panel botton and the rear panel rocker switch, once the fan stops?

I understand the need for both, that the fan won't run and deplete the power
supply without power from the rear rocker switch. But are people leaving the
rear switch on when done for the night?

Also, should we run the KPA500 through a surge protector? With the current
draw, it would probably be a dedicated surge protector. At the moment I have
it plugged directly into the wall. All my other equipment, except an Alpha
that uses 230v, is surge protected. i unplug the Alpha when off air for a
long time or when an electrical storm is brewing.

Not a big issue. Just curious what is the best operating practice here.

Fred, K3BHX


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Re: [Elecraft] Normal KPA500 behavior?

2012-02-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hi Mike:

I'm sure that LED flash is quite normal. Mine has done that since day one.


I do not experience the jumping temp readings though. A couple of
speculations:

1 - Does it do that when the amp is connected to a dummy load?  (Thinking
maybe an RF feedback issue.)

2 - What's your line voltage and how much does it sag under full load?
(Thinking that possibly a low line voltage is causing a voltage regulator in
the sensor circuit to drop out and lose regulation.) 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Hi,

My KPA500 does a couple of things that seem a bit odd.  Other KPA owners -
do your KPAs also do the following?

1)  When I transmit a 500 watt carrier while displaying TEMP the displayed
temperature drops 5 degrees C.  When I release the key the temperature goes
immediately back to the real value.  Lower transmit power levels cause a
correspondingly lower drop in displayed temp.  This behavior causes the temp
display to bounce around while transmitting CW.

2) When I power down my KPA the fan turns on (as it should) and then the
right most POWER LED flashes on an off quickly.  Is that LED flash normal?

Thanks and 73,

Mike - ke5akl


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Re: [Elecraft] Monitor (OT)

2012-02-10 Thread David Christ
I have received enough replies to report the trend.  With one 
exception no problems were reported.  The list of brands was most of 
the mid to major names such as Dell, LG, HP, Acer, ViewSonic, Planar, 
ASUS.

The exceptions were Samsung.  Not all Samsung monitors were reported 
as problematic.  Many were OK.  An older one had display problems 
when the user was on 80.  This may or may not have been the result of 
RF in the shack.  No way to tell.  It seems the one to avoid is 
Samsung models with soft of virtual buttons.  These could be 
activated during transmission.  Units with real buttons seemed to be 
OK.

There are some mystery brands out there that were not mentioned so no 
conclusion for them can be drawn.

Bottom line: It appears that if you stick with recognized brands and 
avoid trick things like soft buttons you should be OK.  However there 
are no guarantees.

Thanks to all,

David  K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] How much is enough?

2012-02-10 Thread Chip Stratton
A nice scope is sure fun to have around the old test bench. Perfectly
good  analogue scopes that cost many thousands 20 to 40 years ago are
available for less than a penny on the dollar these days, and are more
than enough for work on HF gear.

Chip
AE5KA
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Re: [Elecraft] How much is enough?

2012-02-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I have an HP1740A analog scope (from the 1970's) that is my workhorse. After
40 years in service it still takes a lick'n' and keeps on tick'n'. 

Equally importantly, we 'understand' each other. 

If one doesn't learn to use a tool, understanding its idiosyncrasies and
limitations, it's not worth buying it. That includes any piece of test
equipment. Without that knowledge, the best gear will lead the user astray
more often that help inform. 

So, being a touch lazy, I put making the jump to the latest and greatest
until I see a specific need. 

73,
Ron AC7AC 

-Original Message-

A nice scope is sure fun to have around the old test bench. Perfectly
good  analogue scopes that cost many thousands 20 to 40 years ago are
available for less than a penny on the dollar these days, and are more
than enough for work on HF gear.

Chip
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Re: [Elecraft] How much is enough?

2012-02-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
All,

For those with sincere interest in obtaining a 'scope (Tektronics), I 
would suggest you contact Mr. Scope - Bob Garcia 
(esaro...@bellsouth.net) to see what he has available.  Bob is a former 
Tek technician and offers Tek 'scopes at very reasonable prices.  He is 
also quite the gentleman - one of the 'scopes I ordered from him, he 
sent and did not expect any payment until I was satisfied with the 
product.  You just cannot get any better service than that.

73,,
Don W3FPR

On 2/10/2012 7:41 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 I have an HP1740A analog scope (from the 1970's) that is my workhorse. After
 40 years in service it still takes a lick'n' and keeps on tick'n'.

 Equally importantly, we 'understand' each other.

 If one doesn't learn to use a tool, understanding its idiosyncrasies and
 limitations, it's not worth buying it. That includes any piece of test
 equipment. Without that knowledge, the best gear will lead the user astray
 more often that help inform.

 So, being a touch lazy, I put making the jump to the latest and greatest
 until I see a specific need.

 73,
 Ron AC7AC

 -Original Message-

 A nice scope is sure fun to have around the old test bench. Perfectly
 good  analogue scopes that cost many thousands 20 to 40 years ago are
 available for less than a penny on the dollar these days, and are more
 than enough for work on HF gear.

 Chip
 AE5KA

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and Remoterig

2012-02-10 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Wait for the posting and addition to the web page. I am here in Orlando for the 
Orlando Hamcatin ARRL hamfest. I ran out of time this week to get it on the web 
site as I had to prep for the show and catch an early Flight on Thursday. 

Next week, I hope!

I apologize for the delay.

73,
Eric



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[Elecraft] Signalink USB Elecraft K3 cable

2012-02-10 Thread Bryon
I am in need of a Tigertronics Signalink USB cable for the Elecraft K3. I
can buy it or trade the Icom cable that I currently have for it.

Please contact me offline.

Thanks
Bryon W7RIV
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[Elecraft] KPA500 Z Bracket Top Cover

2012-02-10 Thread Chuck - AE4CW
Just finished a KPA500 build and all went smoothly.  The only issue I see is
that the Z-Bracket appears to be about 1mm taller at the front than at the
rear.  The result is that the top cover protrudes above the front panel in
the center by a small amount, perhaps 1mm.  At the rear the top cover is
flush with the rear panel in the center...no protrusion at all.  This is a
cosmetic issue but does detract a bit for the fit and finish of the rest
of the KPA500 and the K3.

Has anyone else seen this issue?  Thought I would ask before calling home.
---
Chuck, AE4CW

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Z Bracket Top Cover

2012-02-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
It should be flat. Is anything caught between the Z-bracket and the bottom
cover? 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
Just finished a KPA500 build and all went smoothly.  The only issue I see is
that the Z-Bracket appears to be about 1mm taller at the front than at the
rear.  The result is that the top cover protrudes above the front panel in
the center by a small amount, perhaps 1mm.  At the rear the top cover is
flush with the rear panel in the center...no protrusion at all.  This is a
cosmetic issue but does detract a bit for the fit and finish of the rest
of the KPA500 and the K3.

Has anyone else seen this issue?  Thought I would ask before calling home.
---
Chuck, AE4CW


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Z Bracket Top Cover

2012-02-10 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Chuck - AE4CW ae...@att.net wrote:
 Just finished a KPA500 build and all went smoothly.  The only issue I see is
 that the Z-Bracket appears to be about 1mm taller at the front than at the
 rear.  The result is that the top cover protrudes above the front panel in
 the center by a small amount, perhaps 1mm.  At the rear the top cover is
 flush with the rear panel in the center...no protrusion at all.  This is a
 cosmetic issue but does detract a bit for the fit and finish of the rest
 of the KPA500 and the K3.

 Has anyone else seen this issue?  Thought I would ask before calling home.

Yes, I have exactly the same issue, but I don't have a solution. It
hasn't bothered me enough to pursue it with support, but I couldn't
see any way that it could have been caused by incorrect assembly, so
it must be a malformed Z-bracket.

Let me know if you find a solution!

~iain / N6ML
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[Elecraft] [K3] New 472kHz LF band

2012-02-10 Thread Edward R. Cole
This has been asked before and Wayne has indicated that K3 cannot be 
extended below 490-KHz.  I am using my K3 on the 495-510 KHz 
experimental band as a driver for a 100w transmitter (4.15w 
ERP).  You need the KXV3 transverter I/F and the KBPF3 general 
coverage filter for the K3 to operate on 500-KHz.  Then you operate 
at 0 dBm output by entering the TEST mode.  You need some linear 
amplification for useful transmit power.  For the new band ERP=1w 
implies an amp with 25w output.

To extend use of the K3 lower in frequency a transverter can be made. Look at:
http://www.kl7uw.com/600m_XVTR.jpg

But there is another solution:  The KX3 will tune to 310-KHz if you 
have the internal ATU.  Wayne wrote me that they have not determined 
if an external LP filters will be needed, so look at:
http://w1vd.com/LPF.pdf
Also they are not sure what the KX3 output power level will be (my 
guess 20mw -1w).

For more info about the ARRL 500-KHz Experimental Group:
http://www.500kc.com/
http://www.kl7uw.com/600m.htm

73, Ed - KL7UW

Message: 29
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:00:55 +
From: David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] New 472kHz LF band
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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I see from the report of WRC-12 that a new band 472-479kHz is to be
allocated on a world-wide basis with an eirp of 5W (1W in some
countries).  The K3 receiver currently goes down to 490kHz.  Is there
any likelihood that this could be extended down to cover the new band?



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