Re: [Elecraft] Unfair Comparison?

2012-03-26 Thread Bill K9YEQ
As you should be :-)

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:48 PM
To: Adrian
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unfair Comparison?

I can't speak for the test conditions used here, but for an independent
comparison of most ham transceivers, see:

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Sherwood sorts his table by 2-kHz (close-spaced) dynamic range. The K3 and
FT5000 have the top spots. I'm still not entirely sure why Rob put the
FT-5000 above the K3, given that they tied on narrow-banded IMDDR3 and the
K3 had the better numbers in nearly all other categories.

But then, as anyone on the list will tell you, I'm hopelessly biased.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Mar 24, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Adrian wrote:

 Please have a look at;

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8T-K64LAY

 It seems an unfair test with the K3 filter settings much narrower than 
 the 590. The 590 sounds noisier despite the extra S level.

 These guys seem to think its proof the 590 outperforms the K3, but I 
 don't think it's a fair test. Comments?

 Adrian ... vk4tux

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[Elecraft] Website request

2012-03-26 Thread Gary
Eric,

If possible would you please make the 'Elecraft' text at the top of your web
pages an active link back to the Elecraft homepage? I've grown accustomed to
this on many other commercial websites and appreciate the shortcut it
offers. I'm referring to the brand name object above the webpage titles like
what's seen on your Document and Software Download Page, Software Page, and
your Price List and Order Page. I realize there is an 'Elecraft Home' link
near the bottom of some pages but it seems to take a bit longer to find
whereas the big brand name at the top is quick and easy to locate on every
webpage that has it. Thank you Eric.

73,
Gary N6LRV

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[Elecraft] CM500 for sale for K3

2012-03-26 Thread Rick Stealey

If anyone in EU or VK/ZL is having trouble finding a CM500 locally please 
contact me off list.  This is the headset with attached microphone for the K3.  
I have one unused available.

Rick  K2XT
  
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Report

2012-03-26 Thread Dale Putnam




Thank you all for checking in, and a special thank you to John, so gracious and 
helpful as alternate/relay NCS also.
There may have been a station that we missed, if so, apologies are offered. The 
following is a listing of the checkins:
 
N6JW - John - CA - K3
WV5I - Dwayne - N Tx - K3 5287 
W5ETJ - Gary - Tx - K3 3227
KE4WY - Jim - Ky - K3 6150
W6NIA - Matt - K3 24  KX3 6
W7LKG - Rick - Wa - K3 4497 w SB 40 HS
W7LRY - Larry - Co - completing k3 6747, maybe next week
AA7GT - Greg - welcome 
N4FZ - Gene - Ky - k3 4128, KPA500 666, K2-100 5812
W4RKS - Jim - Al - K3 3618
K7BRR - Bill - Az - K3 5545
W8OV - Dave - Tx - K3 - 3109
N2HMM - John - NJ - K3 5033
K9YEO - Bill - Wi - K3 1744
W5RPD - Jerry - Ar - K3 6303
K8EAG - Bill - Mi - K3 099
NA6Z - Don - Ca - K3 5495
WN8A - Jim - Mi - K3 3480
WC7S - Dale - Wy - K2 6661, K2 4360
 
18 QNI 30min - 14.3035
We had a bit of extra help, with the WPX contest, but the excellant radios and 
cooperation of the checkins, the net was very pleasant.
  Thank you all for checking in, will be looking for you all again next net too.
Thanks for all your help John. and Thank you, each for checking in with an 
almost forgot the mic NCS.
 

--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy


  
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[Elecraft] SSB Net Report - Mar 25

2012-03-26 Thread Dale Putnam

Thank you all for checking in, and a special thank you to John, so gracious and 
helpful as alternate/relay NCS also.There may have been a station that we 
missed, if so, apologies are offered. The following is a listing of the 
checkins: N6JW - John - CA - K3WV5I - Dwayne - N Tx - K3 5287 W5ETJ - Gary - Tx 
- K3 3227KE4WY - Jim - Ky - K3 6150W6NIA - Matt - K3 24  KX3 6W7LKG - Rick - 
Wa - K3 4497 w SB 40 HSW7LRY - Larry - Co - completing k3 6747, maybe next 
weekAA7GT - Greg - welcome N4FZ - Gene - Ky - k3 4128, KPA500 666, K2-100 
5812W4RKS - Jim - Al - K3 3618K7BRR - Bill - Az - K3 5545W8OV - Dave - Tx - K3 
- 3109N2HMM - John - NJ - K3 5033K9YEO - Bill - Wi - K3 1744W5RPD - Jerry - Ar 
- K3 6303K8EAG - Bill - Mi - K3 099NA6Z - Don - Ca - K3 5495WN8A - Jim - Mi - 
K3 3480WC7S - Dale - Wy - K2 6661, K2 4360 18 QNI 30min - 14.3035We had a bit 
of extra help, with the WPX contest, but the excellant radios and cooperation 
of the checkins, the net was very pleasant.  Thank you all for ch
 ecking in, will be looking for you all again next net too.Thanks for all your 
help John. and Thank you, each for checking in with an almost forgot the mic 
NCS. 
--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Report

2012-03-26 Thread Dale Putnam


thought maybe the qrp-l gang would like to see what the Elecraft phone net did 
today.
--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy
 From: daleput...@hotmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Elecraft SSB Net Report
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:09:44 -0600










Thank you all for checking in, and a special thank you to John, so gracious and 
helpful as alternate/relay NCS also.
There may have been a station that we missed, if so, apologies are offered. The 
following is a listing of the checkins:
 
N6JW - John - CA - K3
WV5I - Dwayne - N Tx - K3 5287 
W5ETJ - Gary - Tx - K3 3227
KE4WY - Jim - Ky - K3 6150
W6NIA - Matt - K3 24  KX3 6
W7LKG - Rick - Wa - K3 4497 w SB 40 HS
W7LRY - Larry - Co - completing k3 6747, maybe next week
AA7GT - Greg - welcome 
N4FZ - Gene - Ky - k3 4128, KPA500 666, K2-100 5812
W4RKS - Jim - Al - K3 3618
K7BRR - Bill - Az - K3 5545
W8OV - Dave - Tx - K3 - 3109
N2HMM - John - NJ - K3 5033
K9YEO - Bill - Wi - K3 1744
W5RPD - Jerry - Ar - K3 6303
K8EAG - Bill - Mi - K3 099
NA6Z - Don - Ca - K3 5495
WN8A - Jim - Mi - K3 3480
WC7S - Dale - Wy - K2 6661, K2 4360
 
18 QNI 30min - 14.3035
We had a bit of extra help, with the WPX contest, but the excellant radios and 
cooperation of the checkins, the net was very pleasant.
  Thank you all for checking in, will be looking for you all again next net too.
Thanks for all your help John. and Thank you, each for checking in with an 
almost forgot the mic NCS.
 

--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy



  
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[Elecraft] Flying High with QRP Contest Event Pic's on Elecraft Website Now

2012-03-26 Thread CRAIG W BEHRENS







For those who participated in Huntsville last August . . . and for those who 
plan to join us for some more outrageous QRP fun this year -- here's where you 
can see pictures of our 2011 Flying High with QRP contest teams (operating 
the K3).
Eric Swartz--WA6HHQ was our QRP Celebrity Contest Judge for this event.
The 2 contest team members can be seen in the 4th row of pictures in Elecraft's 
website at:
http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/contestpics.htm
So, ya'll start making your plans to be in Huntsville for our 2012 Day of QRP 
Forums, the Monte Sano Campout, a Traditional Southern BBQ, our next crazy QRP 
contest and a bunch of door prizes -- All on the 3rd Saturday in August. 
(More details will be shared at Four Days in May ;-)
Thanks.

72/73  DX,
Craig W. Behrens -- NM4T

  
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[Elecraft] KDSP2 Option wanted

2012-03-26 Thread Rich Arland

Looking for a DSP unit for my K2. Anyone have a KDSP2 either built or in kit 
form that they want to off load? If so, pls contact me off-list. Tnx.

Vy 73 es Gud DX

Rich Arland, K7SZ
Cogito Ergo CQ! (I think therefore I HAM! w/apologies to Rene Descartes 
1596-1650)
Columnist: The Learning Curve CQ Magazine
Columnist: QRP Power QST Magazine (Jan 2000 to Dec 2003)
Author: The ARRL's Low Power Communications, The Art and Science of QRP (all 
4 editions) 

Political understatement of the decade: The problems we face today exist 
because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those people who 
vote for a living! (de: Dr Jack Wheeler)

  
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Question

2012-03-26 Thread W6NEK
Hi Toby,
What you describe is not what I am seeing on my P3/P3SVGA scope.
On the P3 screen with P3 Span set to 5 KHz the Green bandwidth display
(Bar or U ) varies in width proportional to the K3 bandwidth setting.  It is 
still
visible with bandwidth set to a minimum of 50 Hz.  The exact same Bar 
Display is
duplicated on the P3SVGA display.  What you are experiencing does not sound
normal.  Perhaps a P3 guru can shed some light on what you are experiencing.

Frank - W6NEK

- Original Message - 

From: Toby Pennington toby...@embarqmail.com
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:31 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Question


 Got the P3SVGA yesterday and have it running ok.

 Looks Great!

 I am using a Sony 15 inch monitor and notice on cw that the green marker 
 basically diasppears whenever the BW on the K3 is turned lower than 20 hz. 
 I have tried all the different resolutions and it makes no difference.

 The green marker on the P3 itself stays the same at any passband  width 
 setting.

 Has anyone else observed this ?

 Toby  W4CAK
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[Elecraft] P3SVGA

2012-03-26 Thread Richard Fjeld
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:29:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Saffren N6HZ pa...@elecraft.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: 1332174590864-7386283.p...@n2.nabble.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Roy, 

No it does currently provide any sort of screen saver. 

73, 

Paul
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Just a comment,  LCD doesn't burn in, so it doesn't need a screen saver.  
The backlight is another story.  


Richard Fjeld
rpfj...@embarqmail.com
I'd rather be learning.


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Re: [Elecraft] Koss Headsets for the K3 (Was: Re: Yamaha CM500

2012-03-26 Thread Gary K9GS
Final post on my quest for the ultimate headset for my K3.

First, a TON of thanks to Lu, W4LT.  His step-by-step for replacing the 
mic housing on the SB40 with the housing from a Heil BM10 was first rate!

Here's what I ended up doing.

I replaced the microphone housing on the SB40 with a microphone housing 
from a broken Heil BM10.  Heil still sells the housings and windscreens.

In place of the crappy SB40 dynamic mic element I replaced it with a 
Heil HC5 that a friend had.  It's a pity that Heil no longer sells the 
HC4 and HC5 elements separately.  Ask around though...you'll find 
someone that has one laying around.

In doing the above mods to the SB40 you end up with a VERY comfortable 
headset with a great sounding mic element.  I just could not get the 
stock SB40 element to sound good.  The HC5 rocks.

By the way, I don't own a Yamaha CM500 but others have said it is 
identical to the SB40 except for the CM500 has an electret element and 
requires bias.



On 3/17/2012 11:50 AM, Lu Romero wrote:
 Gary:

 I own both a Koss SB40 and two Yamaha CM500'ds.

 The Koss and the Yamaha are exactly identical, save for one
 thing... The microphone capsule.

 The Koss SB40 has a dynamic capsule while the Yamaha CM500
 has a electret condenser capsule.  Other than that, the
 headsets are exactly identical in every detail except for
 the name.  Probably made in the same Chinese jobber.

 But here is where the simialarity ends:  The Yamaha
 electrect capsule is flat and can be made to sound really
 great on the K3.  The Koss dynamic capsule is all bass, very
 mushy, and has low output.  Even engaging the K3 equalizers
 and tweaking a lot, I could not make my SB40 sound very good
 at all.  The capsule just sounds ugly.

 The fix for this is to remove the two screws that hold the
 capsule on the SB40's boom and remove the offending
 microphone that looks surprisingly like a cheap Chinese
 dynamic earphone (its actually the same exact size as a IPod
 headset element and looks identical!) and replace it.  In my
 case, I had an old Heil BM-5 with a bad earpiece but a
 perfectly good DX4 capsule.  I removed the plastic mic
 holder from the rigid Heil boom, and with a slight widening
 of the boom inlet with a Dremel tool, it fits right on to
 the SB40 boom!  Solder up the existing wires from the Koss
 mic and you have a wonderfully comfortable headset with a
 very flexible boom that, in my case, works great on my
 secondary Kenwood TS570 rig.

 Of course, YMMV, but it works for me here!

 Lu - W4LT
 Using the AL/K-Line:  K3/P3/ALS600/MFJ998
 Al Kaline: 1960's Detroit Tigers Slugger

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 Message: 20
 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:33:06 -0500
 From: Gary K9GSgaryk...@wi.rr.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] Koss Headsets for the K3 (Was: Re:
 Yamaha CM500
  Headset)www
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID:4f62b472.6020...@wi.rr.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 An update:

 I stopped by the Koss Factory Store today.  I looked at the
 SB49 first.
 (The SB45 is identical to the SB49 but without the volume
 control in the
 cord).  I didn't really like the way the SB49 fit.  It's a
 very
 subjective thing but comfort was what I was looking for.
 The other
 thing I didn't like was the flexible boom for the microphone
 was very
 whippy.  It was almost like a wet noodle.  Not good.

 Next I looked at the SB40.  The fit was great and very
 comfortable for
 the 5 minutes I wore it.  The mic boom was stiffer too.  The
 SB40 has a
 dynamic mic element.  I ended up buying the SB40.  The price
 was $39.00
 plus sales tax.

 I was all set to buy a Yamaha CM500 but I really wanted to
 see how they
 fit first.  I looked at a couple places and couldn't find a
 local store
 that had the CM500.  For this reason I look at Koss.  The
 other thing
 Koss has going for it is the limited lifetime warranty.
 Being that I
 live near the factory this is a big advantage.  Second is
 that I've
 owned other Koss products and have always been very happy
 with them.

 As I said I've never used the Yamaha CM500 but the Koss SB40
 looks very
 similar.

 I'm also kind of a headphone junkie.  With the K3 I figure
 that most
 modern headsets have much more performance (frequency
 response, etc)
 than one needs for communication. So they are all pretty
 much up to the
 task.  Same for the microphone.  With the TX and RX Eq
 features of the
 K3 I decided to concentrate on fit and comfort.  I think
 that juist
 about any headset and microphone can be made to sound good.

 I haven't used the SB40's yet but will report back once I've
 played with
 them a bit.  Here's the link to the Koss website:

 http://www.koss.com/en/products/headphones/communication_headsets





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73,

Gary K9GS

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Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com
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[Elecraft] K2 Heil mic/boom for sale

2012-03-26 Thread John Cooper
Sorry for the off topic,

I have the Heil ICM microphone and PL2T boom for sale, this was used with my 
Elecraft K2.  It does need a new shock cord as the one on it is worn out.  
Other than that it worked great with the K2.  I have sold my K2 because Im 
waiting on the KX3 and this will not be needed anymore.  Asking $130 shipped to 
your QTH via Paypal.  Will consider separating the PL2T boom and Heil Icm mike 
seperately for $70 each if I get an offer for both and no one wants both 
together.  Email me for pics.


John Cooper WT5Y
w...@gt.rr.com
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[Elecraft] test

2012-03-26 Thread David Christ
test
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[Elecraft] SSB Net Report - Mar 25- again

2012-03-26 Thread Dale Putnam

Didn't see this the first time, sending it again. 

--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy
 From: daleput...@hotmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: SSB Net Report - Mar 25
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:57:16 -0600







Thank you all for checking in, and a special thank you to John, so gracious and 
helpful as alternate/relay NCS also.
There may have been a station that we missed, if so, apologies are offered. The 
following is a listing of the checkins:
 
N6JW - John - CA - K3
WV5I - Dwayne - N Tx - K3 5287 
W5ETJ - Gary - Tx - K3 3227
KE4WY - Jim - Ky - K3 6150
W6NIA - Matt - K3 24  KX3 6
W7LKG - Rick - Wa - K3 4497 w SB 40 HS
W7LRY - Larry - Co - completing k3 6747, maybe next week
AA7GT - Greg - welcome 
N4FZ - Gene - Ky - k3 4128, KPA500 666, K2-100 5812
W4RKS - Jim - Al - K3 3618
K7BRR - Bill - Az - K3 5545
W8OV - Dave - Tx - K3 - 3109
N2HMM - John - NJ - K3 5033
K9YEO - Bill - Wi - K3 1744
W5RPD - Jerry - Ar - K3 6303
K8EAG - Bill - Mi - K3 099
NA6Z - Don - Ca - K3 5495
WN8A - Jim - Mi - K3 3480
WC7S - Dale - Wy - K2 6661, K2 4360
 
18 QNI 30min - 14.3035
We had a bit of extra help, with the WPX contest, but the excellant radios and 
cooperation of the checkins, the net was very pleasant.
  Thank you all for checking in, will be looking for you all again next net too.
Thanks for all your help John. and Thank you, each for checking in with an 
almost forgot the mic NCS.
 

--...   ...--

Dale - WC7S in Wy

  
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Re: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

2012-03-26 Thread goldtr8
Thanks for all the replies.

I did forget about playing with the AGC so I went back and did some 
adjustments and was able to make things better.

I think that the problem is that there is too much junk in the passband 
during contests and asking the dsp to take it all out just does not 
work.

So I think that I will be looking for either a 1.8 or 1.5 filter.  I did 
pay attention to the pc screen to see how wide I was running the filter 
and most of the time I was below 1.8 in width and a fair amount at 1.4 
to try and reduce the splatter.

Thus until I have more filters to play with I wont know for sure.

Cheers
Don

~73
Don
KD8NNU


On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Peter Chamalian wrote:

 Sadly if the splatter is real (not an artifact generated in the 
 receiver)
 and the splatter is in the passband, no amount of filtering is going 
 to help
 get rid of it.  If the other guy's signal is broad then there isn't 
 much
 that can be done to get rid of it given today's technology.

 Pete, W1RM

 -Original Message-
 From: gold...@charter.net [mailto:gold...@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, 
 March 25, 2012 8:34 AM
 To: elecraft...@yahoogroups.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference 
 question/opinions

 After spending time in two DX contasts this year and also dealing with 
 lots
 of splatter from other stations during non contest conditions I find 
 myself
 continually dialing down tighter and tighter filter settings on phone 
 (ssb)

 Currently I have a 2.7, and 2.1 filter plus the narrow ones for 
 digital.

 My brain is starting to tell me to stop using the 2.1 and get either a 
 1.8 or even a 1.5 or possibly both.   My thoughts are that the dsp 
 would work much better if some of the interference can be directly 
 blocked out by the filter.   These thoughts are guided by past 
 readings on the list that this is the case.

 What is the collective wisdom of these filter changes I am thinking 
 about.   I am curious about others who may have tried these and if 
 they kept them or if they thought it made no difference at all.

 Again thanks in advance for your help.

 ~73
 Don
 KD8NNU
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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread Bob K6UJ
that sounds great Don !

Bob
K6UJ



On Mar 25, 2012, at 4:21 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 I have plans for a new custom operating desk, and it will happen within 
 the next 3 months.  The desk will have shelves (for power supplies, 
 surge protectors, etc) on the back side along with cable management 
 trays at the top.  The real magic is that I will install Appliance 
 wheels like those normally for under refrigerators on the bottom of 
 each pedestal so I can move the complete desk out away from the wall for 
 maintenance.
 
 Now, all I have to do is clean up the woodworking shop and begin cutting 
 the parts.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 3/25/2012 7:03 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
 Or you can put one of those mirror tiles against the wall behind your
 radio.  That said, I would give almost anything for enough room in my
 shack to have a 24 inch walk through behind my station.
 
 73, Pete N4ZR
 The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com
 The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at 
 reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
 spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and
 arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
 
 
 On 3/25/2012 6:14 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote:
 Pierfrancesco Caci wrote
 Pulling out the K3 is sort of doable, but putting it back in
 position is a real pain.
 
 This mirror image of the rear panel may help:
 
 http://www.n5na.net/download/k3_rear_panel_mirror.pdf
 
 73,  Bill
 
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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
I have a good handle on my coax cables.  I use a MFJ-4726/RC which has 
6-inputs and 6-outputs, and can be placed under the bench as the switching 
is handled with a small remote control box.  But for the rat's nest behind 
the radios for all the other interconnects, all I did was label the 
individual cables using Casio black-on-white labeling tape.  I also labeled 
all coax cables attached to the MFJ-4726 using a Sharpie silver permananent 
marker as I could write directly on the black coax covering.

Phil - AD5X 

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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: Unfair Comparison?

2012-03-26 Thread k...@yahoo.com
I agree with a previous post that the price difference between an equally 
equiped K3 and a FT-5K is very close if none. I did the price comparison before 
buying the K3 and what really made decide for the K3 instead of the FT-5K was 
Elecraft's great customer service and the fact that I didn't have an immediate 
need for features like the second receiver and the 200 watts, thus saving some 
money. I also do believe that the K3 receiver is out of this world specially on 
the implementation of the digital NR.

My SO2R second radio is a TS-590 and which I believe is the best bang for the 
buck for a DX'er/contester who doesn't want to spend more than $2K on a radio. 
In my opinion,it's unfair to compare a K3 with a TS-590 simply because they are 
in different price class. I paid near $1,700 for my TS-590 wheras my almost 
plain K3 costed me near $2,600 last December and it doesn't include some 
options the TS-590 includes like ATU, FM, AM and general coverage receiver. 
Does the K3 have a better receiver than the TS-590?, darn yeah!...much superior 
I would say and that's what I expected. Otherwise I would have two TS-590 
sitting on my desk today with $1K+ (I intend to get the ATU option soon) to 
spare in my pocket. Therefore, the K3 is in my opinion in the same class as the 
FT-5K.

Robert - KP4Y

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[Elecraft] K3 Icom SM-6 Microphone Question

2012-03-26 Thread Robert Dorchuck W6VY
Is anyone using a Icom SM-6 with the K3?  How did you wire the connector.  I 
know 2 and 7 or 8 will be push to talk and 1 is the mike audio but what about 
the bias?

Thanks
Bob  W6VY

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Re: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

2012-03-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/25/2012 5:53 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 The DSP filters can deal with all the interference as long as it is not
 overloaded - and overload is what the Hardware AGC prevents.

And as long as the interference is not on YOUR frequency, which is sadly 
all too common during contest stations heavily overdriving their rigs 
with their computers and turning their microphone gains up way too 
high.  I've been part of a casual multi-op for WPX this weekend, and 
I've heard dozens of stations whose audio was so badly distorted that I 
could not copy their call, even listening to it many times. And when 
they do that, they're also usually creating lots of sideband splatter.

One of these times I'm going to make a list of the most awful ones and 
post it far and wide.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

2012-03-26 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
dalej wrote:

I debated between the 2.1 and 1.8, I decided on the 1.8 and am glad I 
did.  This is the first radio I've had with a 1.8 filter that doesn't 
sound like tweety bird on SSB.  It is a good and tight filter while 
still bringing in some good audio.  

I used that same 1.8kHz Inrad filter in the old FT-1000MP, where it was 
very much needed for SSB contesting.

Because that filter is also compatible with the K3, I decided to make a 
new adapter board and try it... and am very glad I did!

The K3 is configured to switch in the filter at a DSP bandwidth of 
1.9kHz, and with the center frequency set to 1.25kHz it gives a very 
good balance between selectivity and intelligibility - so good, in fact, 
that the SHIFT and WIDTH controls hardly ever need to be touched for the 
duration of an entire contest.

That isn't just one person's opinion; my wife and guest operators also 
find those same filter settings immediately comfortable, so they can go 
straight ahead and operate.

You won't be displeased.  

I agree with Dale. Although a narrower roofing filter isn't essential 
(we all understand that), the 1.8kHz filter does make a difference to 
SSB contesting.


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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2012-03-26 Thread Bill Miller
What is recommended for a K-3 power supply? (New owner)

Bill K9HXO
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[Elecraft] Reglector Down

2012-03-26 Thread Robert Dorchuck W6VY
Nothing Sunday  into Monday.  Getting to be a common occurrence.
Bob  W6VY

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[Elecraft] Orange Screen of Death

2012-03-26 Thread David Inger
Today, while very casually operating WPX looking for new DXCC countries, my
K3 went deaf and dumb.  I had just switched bands and push the Tune button
to adjust my antenna tuner.  The radio started emitting a series of high
pitched beeps (obviously the transmit output for tuning).  I could not get
it out of the Tune mode.  I had to push the power button to turn the radio
off.  When I turned the radio back on, the LED's on the knobs next to the
VFO cycled on for a second, then went off;  the display was totally blank
except for the orange background color.  No controls functioned and there
was absolutely no audio output.  I could not turn the radio off except by
turning off the external power supply.  I tried to restart the radio several
times with no success.  I let the K3 cool down for an hour to see if it was
heat related; no luck.

 

Has anyone else experienced this or have any ideas what might be happening?
In the meantime I am getting my shipping boxes readied for a trip to Dr.
Elecraft.

 

73 de K6SBA

David in Santa Barbara, CA

K3 #565

KPA500 #197

P3 #something-or-other

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Re: [Elecraft] anyone running HRD with Signalink K3 help

2012-03-26 Thread Bill Frantz
The K3 also does fine on sound card modes with the VOX. (If I 
can remember to turn it on/off when I switch between data and 
SSB.) Even if you want to run with wired keying, you can turn on 
VOX to see if your keying connection is set up correctly. If the 
transmitter keys when your computer sends sound in VOX mode, but 
not with the wire, then the problem is in the wire/computer 
control (or the VOX level config).

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 3/25/12 at 21:46, km4ik@gmail.com (Ian Kahn - Ham) wrote:

First thing I'd check is in the HRD soundcard properties.  Make 
sure it is set for the SignaLink, not the computer's sound 
card.  It should read USB Audio Device, or something similar 
and equally generic.  Also, do you have the correct cables 
connected to the K3?  The radio end should have three plugs, 
one each for line in, line out, and keying.  Make sure they are 
correctly connected to the K3, and that the K3 is set for MIC + 
Line In in the microphone settings in the MENU.
---
Bill Frantz|After all, if the conventional wisdom was 
working, the
408-356-8506   | rate of systems being compromised would be 
going down,
www.periwinkle.com | wouldn't it? -- Marcus Ranum

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[Elecraft] CW in SSB Mode

2012-03-26 Thread Bill Ross
When I read the info about being able to send CW while in USB/LSB, on the same 
freq. I set it up on my K3.  And it works fine, except that I notice that when 
in SSB Mode, and keying with my paddle or SK, that the SWR bars disappear. That 
is, if I tune the antenna to the freq I’m on, and lets say I have two bars of 
SWR when in SSB and talking or whistling, when I key the transmitter  with the 
paddle or SK, there are no bars displayed. Is this normal, or, did I do 
something wrong in the setup? 

Tnx for any help,

73, Bill, k6mgo
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[Elecraft] K2: Excessive ALC on Sideband

2012-03-26 Thread Jon Perelstein
I've just recently started using phone on my K2/100 (s/n 6550) and I've
noticed that even at an SSbA setting of 1, I'm getting a lot of ALC (3-7
bars when I talk in what I believe to be a normal voice).  I'm using an
Elecraft MH-2 mic.  I checked the wiring for the mic last night and I
believe it is correct.  I also notice that the problem is worse on lower
bands than on higher bands.  I've been operating the radio at about 80
watts on phone.

That's consistent with my experience in digital modes, where I have to turn
the output of my computer down to around 20% and keep the TX control of my
Signalink turned down to around 2/10ths (the 9 o'clock position).  I have
checked the jumper settings in my Signalink to make sure I'm not using the
special jumper for increased gain on Tx.  I operate the radio at 30 watts
on digital modes.

The KSB2 manual says that the value of R15 can be changed to increase the
attenuation on SSbA.  What kind of values should I be thinking of?

Are there any other adjustments I can/should make to improve the situation?
 I caught some comment in a post a few years ago about there being an issue
with the KSB2 on lower bands and mention of their being a fix, but I'm not
sure what to search for in the archives (or rather, the terms I was
searching for didn't give me anything that seemed relevant).

Thanks and 73s
Jon, WB2RYV
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[Elecraft] Test, Test, only a test.

2012-03-26 Thread Dale Putnam

Testing, testingVVV vvv vvv VVVTest, Test.

--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy 
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[Elecraft] [OT] withdrawals

2012-03-26 Thread Mike Rodgers
I'm having k3 withdrawals today (Sunday ). No mail. 
If someone gets the list in digest can forward to me so I can get my fix!
Multiples ok, I got a delete button!  

73
Mike R

Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF  Echolink mobile
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[Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread Bill Wiehe
I made a trough by cutting some plastic drain line in half
and attaching it to the back of the operating desk. The cables are then simply
laid in the channel created by the attachment. This eliminates the tangle that
comes from the cables dangling off the back of the operating position w/o the
need to ties or raps.
73,
Bill - W0BBI
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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread Tim
I assume some of  you  keep your  K3s in Cave.

Tim
gm4lmh


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From: Ian White GM3SEK gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 11:33 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] cable management

 Tom Cooch wrote:

I'm guessing a fairly high number of subscribers to this reflector 
recognize the reference in your first sentence. I wonder what the 
actual percentage is.

Tom KB1UG
 
 I forwarded this to my friend GM4PMK:
 
 : The rear of your transceiver is a maze of twisty little cables, all 
 alike.
 : Nothing happens.
 
 
 Here's what he just replied:
 
 : Pull cable.
 : There is a puff of colored smoke ...
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

2012-03-26 Thread Peter Chamalian
Sadly if the splatter is real (not an artifact generated in the receiver)
and the splatter is in the passband, no amount of filtering is going to help
get rid of it.  If the other guy's signal is broad then there isn't much
that can be done to get rid of it given today's technology.

Pete, W1RM

-Original Message-
From: gold...@charter.net [mailto:gold...@charter.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 8:34 AM
To: elecraft...@yahoogroups.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

After spending time in two DX contasts this year and also dealing with lots
of splatter from other stations during non contest conditions I find myself
continually dialing down tighter and tighter filter settings on phone (ssb)

Currently I have a 2.7, and 2.1 filter plus the narrow ones for digital.

My brain is starting to tell me to stop using the 2.1 and get either a 
1.8 or even a 1.5 or possibly both.   My thoughts are that the dsp would 
work much better if some of the interference can be directly blocked out 
by the filter.   These thoughts are guided by past readings on the list 
that this is the case.

What is the collective wisdom of these filter changes I am thinking 
about.   I am curious about others who may have tried these and if they 
kept them or if they thought it made no difference at all.

Again thanks in advance for your help.

~73
Don
KD8NNU
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Question

2012-03-26 Thread Rick Prather
Toby,

I assume you mean 200 Hz?

At any rate, I can turn mine down to the minimum (50 Hz) and still see the 
green line.  It's fairly dim at that width but still visible. 

Perhaps you can adjust the color and or contrast on your monitor to bring it 
out.

Rick
K6LE

On 3/25/2012, at 5:31 , Toby Pennington toby...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Got the P3SVGA yesterday and have it running ok.
 
 Looks Great!
 
 I am using a Sony 15 inch monitor and notice on cw that the green marker 
 basically diasppears whenever the BW on the K3 is turned lower than 20 hz.  I 
 have tried all the different resolutions and it makes no difference. 
 
 The green marker on the P3 itself stays the same at any passband  width 
 setting. 
 
 Has anyone else observed this ?
 
 Toby  W4CAK
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 is not talking to K3

2012-03-26 Thread pkhjr
Don't feel alone, I did the same thing and was just about to call Elecraft
when I found the issue.

Tex

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 is not talking to K3

2012-03-26 Thread K0JQZ
And the answer is: the baud rate not set correctly in the K3. I hope I did
not take up any ones time due to my inability to operate the radio
functions.

72
Frank
K0JQZ



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[Elecraft] Dual posting

2012-03-26 Thread Mike K2MK
I'm curious as to the logic of simultaneously posting the exact same question
on both the Elecraft and the Yahoo reflectors. The responders to the
original post frequently also double post their responses. 

Wouldn't it be more efficient to post on one reflector, evaluate the
responses, and then post on the other reflector a day later if needed?

73,
Mike K2MK

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[Elecraft] P3 is not talking to K3

2012-03-26 Thread K0JQZ
Hi all, I have not been able to find this problem/solution anywhere.  I have
been going through all the manuals and some forums this morning with no
luck.

It seems my K3 is not talking to my P3. I do not get a freq display and
cannot control the VFO from the P3. It acts as if the P3 XCVR to the K3
RS232 cable is not connected (if the cable is disconnected it is the same
display I get). I tried another cable with no luck.  Is there some menu item
that needs to be set in order for this communication to happen?

My K3 is serial number 6344 (a K3/10 kit) and my P3 is serial number 1970
also a kit so I am not ruling out any operator or builder error I may have
caused. 

The K3 and the P3 talk to the computer independently but the computer does
not talk to the K3 via the P3. Which is what led me to concentrate on that
area. 

I am going to take the P3 apart to see if I see anything obvious like
something disconnected but I do not have high hopes.

Thanks for any help

Frank
K0JQZ
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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread W5RDW
I think these guys may make the Cable Cuff for Home Depot. They look
identical except for the name...

http://www.cableclamp.com/

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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread AB3EN
If you have more than one radio and / or more than one amp combo you might
want to look at what a K3 owner - KR5L has created to simplify the cable
mess. Check out KR5L.com as he says KR5L has designed and developed a
unique 6 position linear amplifier RF and amplifier relay input coax switch
to enable amateur radio operators Hams to quickly switch between multiple
ham radios and two linear amplifiers.  This is particularly useful in the
heat of a contest or when space in the ham shack is at a premium.

I hear he is getting some good reviews.

Dan

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Re: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

2012-03-26 Thread Bill W4ZV

goldtr8 wrote
 
 Currently I have a 2.7, and 2.1 filter plus the narrow ones for digital.
 
 My brain is starting to tell me to stop using the 2.1 and get either a 
 1.8 or even a 1.5 or possibly both.   My thoughts are that the dsp would 
 work much better if some of the interference can be directly blocked out 
 by the filter.   These thoughts are guided by past readings on the list 
 that this is the case.
 
 What is the collective wisdom of these filter changes I am thinking 
 about.   I am curious about others who may have tried these and if they 
 kept them or if they thought it made no difference at all.
 

The answer is...it depends.  :-)

I believe you're fairly new to radio and contesting.  Therefore I'm assuming
you mostly tune for DX stations and call them rather than running a pileup
yourself, which requires good antennas and high power on SSB.  For DXing or
Search and Pounce (SP) contesting, you normally have plenty of time to tune
in stations carefully before calling.  In this case narrow filters (either
XFIL or DSP) will work even with bandwidths down to 1.5 kHz.  BUT...this
assumes you have time to carefully tune in the station you want to call.

In the case of someone running a pileup at fairly high rates (e.g. 150-200
per hour), it's a different situation.  You want to copy callers correctly
the first time without any tuning, send your exchange and get his exchange
in the space of 15 seconds and go on to the next one.  The problem with
extremely narrow SSB filters is that many callers will be slightly off
frequency (e.g. 100 Hz) which renders them unintelligible when using narrow
filters.  With a little wider filter, your ears can still copy the
off-frequency guys without needing to touch the VFO.  

I had a 1.8k filter in the CQ WW last October and gave up using it because
of this problem...and a 1.5k would be even worse.  Instead I found myself
using a DSP setting of 2.0-2.1k with the stock 2.7k XFIL, so after the
contest I traded my 1.8k XFIL for a 2.1k.  Unfortunately conditions on my
favorite SSB band (10m) have been so poor that I opted not to enter the ARRL
DX SSB or CQ WPX SSB and really haven't had a chance to try it under fire,
but I believe it will be better than the 1.8k for my purposes. 

As Don said earlier, the major advantage of a narrow XFIL is to prevent AGC
pumping from strong stations nearby.  In extremely crowded contests this can
be a major problem.  However a narrower filter WILL NOT remove the splatter
from nearby stations...nothing can do that short of using phased antennas to
null their signal.

73,  Bill




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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Question

2012-03-26 Thread John_N1JM
I think I know the answer, but I'll ask anyway. Can you set the external
monitor to a different span than the P3. It would be a nice to have feature.
I run my SDR-IQ usually at 192 kHz and P3 at a narrower span.

John N1JM

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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread Barry
The most amazing station I've seen in terms of cable management is the DR1A
M/M station.  It's what you'd expect from German engineering.  Every band
had its own room with a radio and destop amp and all fed into their amp
room with monoband, homebrew amps.  There was not an exposed cable to be
seen anywhere.  Everything ran through metal conduit between rooms.

Barry W2UP

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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Morserunner and Win7?

2012-03-26 Thread John_N1JM
Did you install in under C:\Program Files? You could try to install it under
c:\ and avoid the Win7 UAC stuff.

John N1JM

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Re: [Elecraft] Dual posting

2012-03-26 Thread John_N1JM
It's up to the moderator to police that stuff. Not us. And yes it's generally
considered bad manners to simultaneously post to manny reflectors, groups,
mailing lists or whatever you might call them.

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[Elecraft] OT - Morserunner and Win7?

2012-03-26 Thread Barry
I recently bought a new laptop with Win7.  Old 'puter ran XP.  I installed
Morserunner, and besides the volume now being a bit on the low side, it's
not seeing some of my Morserunner.ini file settings.

Anyone have any experience with this?  Is Win7 different in where the ini
file should be?  I have it in the Morserunner directory, as it was in XP.

Tnx,
Barry W2UP

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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread Rex Lint
It's twisty little passages, and it usually identifies a DECie.

-Rex-

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Cooch
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:05 PM
To: Pierfrancesco Caci
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] cable management

Hi Pf,

I'm guessing a fairly high number of subscribers to this reflector recognize
the reference in your first sentence. I wonder what the actual percentage
is.

Tom KB1UG


On Mar 24, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 the back of my radio desk looks like a twisty maze of tiny little 
 cables, all alike. The fact that the table rests against a wall 
 doesn't sure help. Pulling out the K3 is sort of doable, but putting 
 it back in position is a real pain.
 How are you guys doing your cable management? I'm looking for 
 suggestions, or better yet pictures.
 
 Pf
 
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[Elecraft] KX3: As a remote client like K3/0???

2012-03-26 Thread W2NED
I have been reading, with great interest, about the K3/0 and RemoteRig
interface modules using a K3 as a remote host. Can we look forward to the
KX3 being used as an alternate client rig, instead of a K3/0. This seems
like a very attractive alternative. 
Regards,
Ned Asam, W2NED

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Re: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

2012-03-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Don,

Every now and then on this subject, I have to throw in this rather
significant (IMHO) caveat on all this talk about how good the DSP
bandwidth is.  I have an old MP, INRAD 8 pole filters in 8 and 455
IF's, that has selectivity just barely matched by a K3 with 8 pole
roofing filter AND DSP set for skirt alignment.  The DSP by itself is
nowhere near the MP's selectivity, sorry. Not close.

There is a point in CW contesting, where if you want to continue on a
run frequency, you will have to be able to deal with a MUCH louder
signal just a few hundred Hz up or down, and try to copy a MUCH weaker
signal in band. And since the K3 is so clean in matters intermod, it
really IS possible to deal with a 35 over 9 signal just up and copy an
S1 signal in band, a mere 80 dB difference. IF you also want the
desired signal to be 20 dB louder than the undesired signal in the
audio, you are trying to create a separation of 100 dB !!

IF you also want to be able to hear the forever present off-frequency
callers, who to be kind, may actually be physically incapable of
closely matching two tones (quite common actually), or to not be kind,
don't have enough sense to listen first off a packet spot... if all of
these, you will NOT be able to narrow down to super narrow to get rid
of Mr 35over9 without giving up on all the +/- callers.

Once you have figured out that 1/4 of all your contacts are off
frequency then you have to maintain a barely adequate bandwidth.  In
my experience that is done using the 8 pole 250 roofing filter
(really 330), and very carefully aligning the offset in setup, so that
the roofing filter skirts are centered on the DSP skirts with width at
350,  MEASURING AT THE -30 dB POINTS ON BOTH SIDES.

This produces a remarkably sharp, very steep skirt, that equals the
remarkable selectivity of my MP with INRAD 400 and 250 8 pole filters
in the 8 and 455 IF's.  Of course the MP never had the IMD
performance. With aligned skirts, the K3 delivers the selectivity of
the MP WITHOUT the 6 dB of IMD crud down at the bottom covering up 6
dB of Russians on 40 meters. And then there's key click cancelling,
see below.

With the shift control set for 10 Hz increments, Mr 35over9 can be
edged out with just a tick or two up or down on the shift, and STILL
have enough band width to get the other 25% of the callers.

You will not accomplish this on a good antenna without a roofing
filter that matches your preferred operating bandwidth.

For those who can't stand key clicks, this procedure has another
benefit.  This very sharp combination skirt turns a key click from up
or down into an amplitude-reduced very sharp waveform that has a very
quick onset and very quick drop out, e.g. a ** PULSE **. Because the
AGC can now reach down farther, some mistakenly think this is making
the click WORSE.  But it's only turned the click into a REDUCED
AMPLITUDE pulse.  The K3 is WONDERFUL at dealing with pulses, so the
DSP NB settings of T1-7 T2-7 and T3-7, IF NB **off**, with AGC set to
skip pulses, kills the clicks from the guy up above or down below.

The K3 is the only radio I know of that can deal with serious clicks
and maintain a satisfactory run frequency bandwidth in such ghastly
conditions.  But you CANNOT do this just with the DSP bandwidth. You
need a matching 8 pole roofing filter with offset adjusted to make
roofing and DSP skirts align 30 dB down.

That said, conversational use outside of contests, where you don't
have super signals just up and down, you might be hard pressed to hear
the pumping, even using the 5 pole standard 2.7 filter on CW.  The DSP
AGC will suck up a lot of the hardware variation if you are on FAST
AGC and don't run PRE on and RF gain wide open all the time on low
bands.

73, Guy.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Don,

 The DSP filters can deal with all the interference as long as it is not
 overloaded - and overload is what the Hardware AGC prevents.
 What I am saying is - turn Hi-Cut down so you have the equal of a 1.8 or
 1.5 filter - then if you begin to hear the Hardware AGC pumping from the
 nearby signals, you can conclude you need one of the narrow filters.

 The DSP filters do not need any filtering help, they are quite good all
 by themselves, but observe for AGC pumping, and if present under your
 contest conditions, then the only cure is a more narrow roofing filter.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 3/25/2012 8:33 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
 After spending time in two DX contasts this year and also dealing with
 lots of splatter from other stations during non contest conditions I
 find myself continually dialing down tighter and tighter filter settings
 on phone (ssb)

 Currently I have a 2.7, and 2.1 filter plus the narrow ones for digital.

 My brain is starting to tell me to stop using the 2.1 and get either a
 1.8 or even a 1.5 or possibly both.   My thoughts are that the dsp would
 work much better if some of the interference can be directly 

Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2012-03-26 Thread Ian Kahn
Bill,

I use an Astron SS-30, and it works great.  I've used this power supply
since I got licensed five years ago, and this is the third HR rig it
powered without any issues, even though it is a switching power supply.

Hope this helps.

73,

--Ian
 Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #281, P3 #688

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Bill Miller k9...@yahoo.com wrote:

 What is recommended for a K-3 power supply? (New owner)

 Bill K9HXO
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[Elecraft] P3SVGA problem immediately upon installation

2012-03-26 Thread 492commish



I installed my P3SVGA today, and am observing a problem: 



Original state (pre-P3 SVGA install) 



K3 Firmware:  MCU 4.25, DSP 2.71, FPF 1.14  (IF level mod was installed at the 
time I received my P3, about a year ago) 

P3 Firmware: MCU 1.09 



Prior to installing the P3SVGA, the system worked according to specs. 



Current state (post-P3SVGA install) 



K3 Firmware:  No changes 

P3 Firmware:  MCU  1.12 



The K3 shows normal expected S-unit levels. 



In order to show background noise on the P3, I have to adjust the reference 
level very low.  My guess is that it is showing at about -9 S-units.  Local AM 
radio station shows on K3 as  S-9 +40 dB ; P3 shows it at S4.  This is on both 
the P3 display and the flat panel display.  They are talking to each other 
OK; it's just the levels that are extremely attenuated. 



Any ideas? 



73, 

Phil Westover, WA7URV
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Re: [Elecraft] Website request

2012-03-26 Thread John_N1JM
I'll second that. But of course they want you to scan down the whole page and
look at all of there goodies. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Excessive ALC on Sideband

2012-03-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jon,

It is normal to have more TX RF Gain on 80/40 meters than on the higher 
bands.  It is the gain through the transmit stages and will vary with 
frequency.  The ALC circuits on the KSB2 board normally handle that 
variation.
Make certain you have the normal value for R14 (1k) on your KSB2 board, 
and leave R15 at 180 ohms.
You will normally use an SSBA setting of 1 with the MH2 microphone.
Note that there are really only 2 SSBA settings for the KSB2 - 2 and 3 
are the same.

There is a mod to increase the KSB2 RF gain, but none to level it out 
across the bands.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 3/25/2012 11:09 AM, Jon Perelstein wrote:
 I've just recently started using phone on my K2/100 (s/n 6550) and I've
 noticed that even at an SSbA setting of 1, I'm getting a lot of ALC (3-7
 bars when I talk in what I believe to be a normal voice).  I'm using an
 Elecraft MH-2 mic.  I checked the wiring for the mic last night and I
 believe it is correct.  I also notice that the problem is worse on lower
 bands than on higher bands.  I've been operating the radio at about 80
 watts on phone.

 That's consistent with my experience in digital modes, where I have to turn
 the output of my computer down to around 20% and keep the TX control of my
 Signalink turned down to around 2/10ths (the 9 o'clock position).  I have
 checked the jumper settings in my Signalink to make sure I'm not using the
 special jumper for increased gain on Tx.  I operate the radio at 30 watts
 on digital modes.

 The KSB2 manual says that the value of R15 can be changed to increase the
 attenuation on SSbA.  What kind of values should I be thinking of?

 Are there any other adjustments I can/should make to improve the situation?
   I caught some comment in a post a few years ago about there being an issue
 with the KSB2 on lower bands and mention of their being a fix, but I'm not
 sure what to search for in the archives (or rather, the terms I was
 searching for didn't give me anything that seemed relevant).

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[Elecraft] KXPA100 Timeline

2012-03-26 Thread Frank MacDonell
Is there any word on the timeline for availability of the KXPA100? Tnx.

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Re: [Elecraft] Reglector Down

2012-03-26 Thread John_N1JM
Contest.

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[Elecraft] Dayton discount?

2012-03-26 Thread Scott Manthe
Hello fellow Elecraftians,

Does Elecraft have stock available at Dayton to sell? If so, do they 
offer a Dayton discount like many of the other manufacturers. I'm 
itching to get a KPA500 and since funds are tight and I haven't located 
one used, I'm wondering if it might be worth my while to wait until 
Dayton to buy it.

Thanks in advance!

73,
Scott, N9AA
K3
Elecraft Kool-Aid guzzler since 2012.


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[Elecraft] P3SVGA Question

2012-03-26 Thread Toby Pennington
Correction

When the BW is turned down below 200 Hz in cw mode,   the vertical green VFO 
marker fades out with just a little bit still showing.  This occurs on the 
monitor only and not on the P3 screen. 

Toby  W4CAK





Got the P3SVGA yesterday and have it running ok.

Looks Great!

I am using a Sony 15 inch monitor and notice on cw that the green marker 
basically diasppears whenever the BW on the K3 is turned lower than 20 hz.  I 
have tried all the different resolutions and it makes no difference. 

The green marker on the P3 itself stays the same at any passband  width 
setting. 

Has anyone else observed this ?

Toby  W4CAK
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[Elecraft] Transmitter Alignment

2012-03-26 Thread gary7
Does anybody have a link on how to align my K2 using an oscilloscope? 


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: As a remote client like K3/0???

2012-03-26 Thread Brandon Hansen
Hello Ned,

 Thanks for contacting the K3 support team, there currently are no 
plans to use the KX3 as a K3/0.  The KX3 does share similar commands to 
the K3 and can be viewed here, 
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3KX3%20Pgmrs%20Ref%20D6.pdf

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On 3/26/2012 7:21 AM, W2NED wrote:
 I have been reading, with great interest, about the K3/0 and RemoteRig
 interface modules using a K3 as a remote host. Can we look forward to the
 KX3 being used as an alternate client rig, instead of a K3/0. This seems
 like a very attractive alternative.
 Regards,
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Re: [Elecraft] Website request

2012-03-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
It currently does this on the new gray website title bar. We are slowly 
propagating it to our other sub pages. :-)

73,

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On 3/25/2012 2:27 PM, Gary wrote:
 Eric,

 If possible would you please make the 'Elecraft' text at the top of your web
 pages an active link back to the Elecraft homepage? I've grown accustomed to
 this on many other commercial websites and appreciate the shortcut it
 offers. I'm referring to the brand name object above the webpage titles like
 what's seen on your Document and Software Download Page, Software Page, and
 your Price List and Order Page. I realize there is an 'Elecraft Home' link
 near the bottom of some pages but it seems to take a bit longer to find
 whereas the big brand name at the top is quick and easy to locate on every
 webpage that has it. Thank you Eric.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: As a remote client like K3/0???

2012-03-26 Thread Keith Heimbold
I was at Yuma hamfest and was told that it would be 6-9 months beyond product 
launch for that capability to be provided remote ops through the kx3 to the k3. 
Unless I heard that wrong from the folks at the Elecraft booth.

Keith
AG6AZ

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 Thanks for contacting the K3 support team, there currently are no 
 plans to use the KX3 as a K3/0.  The KX3 does share similar commands to 
 the K3 and can be viewed here, 
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3KX3%20Pgmrs%20Ref%20D6.pdf
 
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 Elecraft (831-763-4211 ext: 168)
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

2012-03-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Guy,

I will agree with you for CW - cascaded filters of approximately the 
same width can be necessary.
However, the question had to do with SSB width filters, and there I 
believe the answer is different.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/25/2012 10:05 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
   a K3 with 8 pole
 roofing filter AND DSP set for skirt alignment.  The DSP by itself is
 nowhere near the MP's selectivity, sorry. Not close.

 There is a point in CW contesting, where if you want to continue on a
 run frequency, you will have to be able to deal with a MUCH louder
 signal just a few hundred Hz up or down, and try to copy a MUCH weaker
 signal in band. And since the K3 is so clean in matters intermod, it
 really IS possible to deal with a 35 over 9 signal just up and copy an
 S1 signal in band, a mere 80 dB difference. IF you also want the
 desired signal to be 20 dB louder than the undesired signal in the
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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread Keith Heimbold
This is awesome I totally need to buy this for my K3 and Quadra and King 
conversion combo.

Thanks for posting.  I love this reflector. 

Keith 

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On Mar 26, 2012, at 10:16 AM, AB3EN ab...@amsat.org wrote:

 If you have more than one radio and / or more than one amp combo you might
 want to look at what a K3 owner - KR5L has created to simplify the cable
 mess. Check out KR5L.com as he says KR5L has designed and developed a
 unique 6 position linear amplifier RF and amplifier relay input coax switch
 to enable amateur radio operators Hams to quickly switch between multiple
 ham radios and two linear amplifiers.  This is particularly useful in the
 heat of a contest or when space in the ham shack is at a premium.
 
 I hear he is getting some good reviews.
 
 Dan
 
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[Elecraft] R

2012-03-26 Thread Nunnikhoven

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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: P3 issue

2012-03-26 Thread John K3TN
I just acquired a P3 from a local ham and I'm having the FATAL ERROR IN:
ddc_sect_(coeff() span=0 problem.

I do *not* have the SVGA card installed, running 1.12 firmware. Requires
parameter reset, lose all the FN keys. Kills computer comms to K3 while
frozen.

Definitely seems to happen after band change, but can't swear it is only in
fixed tune mode. Might also be band change whenever Peak or Average is on.

Will try new firmware when available.

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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Morserunner and Win7?

2012-03-26 Thread Barry
Thanks, that did the trick, John.  I initially installed in the default
Program Files (x86) directory.
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Morserunner and Win7?

2012-03-26 Thread Stan Gibbs

Barry wrote
 
 Anyone have any experience with this?  Is Win7 different in where the ini
 file should be?  I have it in the Morserunner directory, as it was in XP.
 

My Morserunner (v1.68) is installed under the default C:\ProgramFiles(x86),
and the .ini file is in the executable's directory.  Seems to work as it
should.


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[Elecraft] K3 Purchase - Info

2012-03-26 Thread Dave (K7DRT)
This is my first post.

I sold my IC-756PRO and now plan to buy a K3.
I use mostly SSB (20  40 meter nets), and some digital  cw

Here is the initial configuration I have selected: (Kit)
K3/100, K3 ATU, K3 Gen. Cov. RX, K3 2.1 kHz 8 pole filter, K3 500 hz 5 pole 
filter, K3 6 Khz 8 pole filter, USB adapter, hand mike

Comments?

Dave K7DRT Tucson, Az.
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Morserunner and Win7?

2012-03-26 Thread Barry
What didn't work for me was changing the Duration of the contest.  I had 
it set to 10 mins and it defaulted to 60 mins every time I ran it in HST 
mode (CTL F9 to start it).  Things like callsign, QRM, etc. worked OK.
73,
Barry

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 Barry wrote
 Anyone have any experience with this?  Is Win7 different in where
 the ini file should be?  I have it in the Morserunner directory,
 as it was in XP.

 My Morserunner (v1.68) is installed under the default 
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[Elecraft] P3SVGA Question

2012-03-26 Thread Toby Pennington

Yes,  I mean  200hz .  Actually,  the green cursor changes to a dull color 
barely visible from 150hz to 50 hz.  Changing the Span to 10hz will keep this 
change from taking place and the cursor will stay green from 150hz to 50hz.  

10hz is a very narrow Span,  but it is the only way I could find to keep the 
cursor very visible.  I have tried everything with the menu on the P3 and also 
on the monitors,  ( I tried two different ones ) I have changed resolution,  
etc.  Nothing seems to change this except changing the Span.  It is not a 
bothersome issue since I would normally only tune the bandwidth down that low 
after I am in contact with someone,  and then the position of the cursor is not 
an issue.  

However,  I would like the cursor to retain its color and visibility. Toby  
W4CAK


Toby,

I assume you mean 200 Hz?

At any rate, I can turn mine down to the minimum (50 Hz) and still see the 
green line.  It's fairly dim at that width but still visible. 

Perhaps you can adjust the color and or contrast on your monitor to bring it 
out.

Rick
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Re: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

2012-03-26 Thread goldtr8
Hi Bill,

Thanks for the reply.

You are correct that I am new to contesting and do the SP method.   So 
yes I try to dial in the frequency and tighten the filters as much as 
possible.

Yes I was getting some AGC pumping and after emails stating this I went 
and played with my settings on low and high signals and eleminated this 
problem

For running one frequency and trying to create my own pile up has not 
been sucessful.  Michigan is just not that rare I guess :-).  However, 
your point of running your DSP at about 2.0 ish tells me that I might 
want to keep that filter also incase this ever changes.   Or maybe I 
need to spend more time on one frequency making calls.

I have room in the K3 for 1 more filter so I just may go ahead and get a 
1.8 to try it out to keep some noise out of the passband when I do the 
fine tuning.


~73
Don
KD8NNU


On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Bill W4ZV wrote:

 goldtr8 wrote

 Currently I have a 2.7, and 2.1 filter plus the narrow ones for 
 digital.

 My brain is starting to tell me to stop using the 2.1 and get either 
 a 1.8 or even a 1.5 or possibly both.   My thoughts are that the dsp 
 would work much better if some of the interference can be directly 
 blocked out by the filter.   These thoughts are guided by past 
 readings on the list that this is the case.

 What is the collective wisdom of these filter changes I am thinking 
 about.   I am curious about others who may have tried these and if 
 they kept them or if they thought it made no difference at all.


 The answer is...it depends.  :-)

 I believe you're fairly new to radio and contesting.  Therefore I'm 
 assuming
 you mostly tune for DX stations and call them rather than running a 
 pileup
 yourself, which requires good antennas and high power on SSB.  For 
 DXing or
 Search and Pounce (SP) contesting, you normally have plenty of time 
 to tune
 in stations carefully before calling.  In this case narrow filters 
 (either
 XFIL or DSP) will work even with bandwidths down to 1.5 kHz. 
 BUT...this
 assumes you have time to carefully tune in the station you want to 
 call.

 In the case of someone running a pileup at fairly high rates (e.g. 
 150-200
 per hour), it's a different situation.  You want to copy callers 
 correctly
 the first time without any tuning, send your exchange and get his 
 exchange
 in the space of 15 seconds and go on to the next one.  The problem 
 with
 extremely narrow SSB filters is that many callers will be slightly off
 frequency (e.g. 100 Hz) which renders them unintelligible when using 
 narrow
 filters.  With a little wider filter, your ears can still copy the
 off-frequency guys without needing to touch the VFO.
 I had a 1.8k filter in the CQ WW last October and gave up using it 
 because
 of this problem...and a 1.5k would be even worse.  Instead I found 
 myself
 using a DSP setting of 2.0-2.1k with the stock 2.7k XFIL, so after the
 contest I traded my 1.8k XFIL for a 2.1k.  Unfortunately conditions on 
 my
 favorite SSB band (10m) have been so poor that I opted not to enter 
 the ARRL
 DX SSB or CQ WPX SSB and really haven't had a chance to try it under 
 fire,
 but I believe it will be better than the 1.8k for my purposes.
 As Don said earlier, the major advantage of a narrow XFIL is to 
 prevent AGC
 pumping from strong stations nearby.  In extremely crowded contests 
 this can
 be a major problem.  However a narrower filter WILL NOT remove the 
 splatter
 from nearby stations...nothing can do that short of using phased 
 antennas to
 null their signal.

 73,  Bill




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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: P3 issue

2012-03-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We will be releasing new P3 software later this morning that fixes this 
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On 3/26/2012 9:27 AM, John K3TN wrote:
 I just acquired a P3 from a local ham and I'm having the FATAL ERROR IN:
 ddc_sect_(coeff() span=0 problem.

 I do *not* have the SVGA card installed, running 1.12 firmware. Requires
 parameter reset, lose all the FN keys. Kills computer comms to K3 while
 frozen.

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 fixed tune mode. Might also be band change whenever Peak or Average is on.

 Will try new firmware when available.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Question

2012-03-26 Thread Vic K2VCO
Toby,

I've noticed the same issue. The color of the translucent band is less intense 
(or 
saturated, or whatever -- it's harder to see).

Also, it is not centered correctly -- there is more color on the left than on 
the right. I 
reported the centering issue as a bug, but I was thinking maybe the color 
problem had 
something to do with my monitor settings and was intending to check that.

On 3/26/2012 9:49 AM, Toby Pennington wrote:

 Yes,  I mean  200hz .  Actually,  the green cursor changes to a dull color 
 barely
 visible from 150hz to 50 hz.  Changing the Span to 10hz will keep this change 
 from
 taking place and the cursor will stay green from 150hz to 50hz.

 10hz is a very narrow Span,  but it is the only way I could find to keep the 
 cursor
 very visible.  I have tried everything with the menu on the P3 and also on the
 monitors,  ( I tried two different ones ) I have changed resolution,  etc.  
 Nothing
 seems to change this except changing the Span.  It is not a bothersome issue 
 since I
 would normally only tune the bandwidth down that low after I am in contact 
 with
 someone,  and then the position of the cursor is not an issue.

 However,  I would like the cursor to retain its color and visibility. 
 Toby  W4CAK


 Toby,

 I assume you mean 200 Hz?

 At any rate, I can turn mine down to the minimum (50 Hz) and still see the 
 green line.
 It's fairly dim at that width but still visible.

 Perhaps you can adjust the color and or contrast on your monitor to bring it 
 out.

 Rick K6LE

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Question

2012-03-26 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi Toby, 

I was able to duplicate it here in the lab, so it's on the list for the next
release. 

Thanks and 73, 

Paul

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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Morserunner and Win7?

2012-03-26 Thread Stan Gibbs

Barry wrote
 
 What didn't work for me was changing the Duration of the contest.  I had 
 it set to 10 mins and it defaulted to 60 mins every time I ran it in HST 
 mode (CTL F9 to start it).  Things like callsign, QRM, etc. worked OK.
 

Barry,

According to the help file, the contest duration has to be changed manually
in the .ini file.  If I do that, I see the expected behavior for the WPX and
HST competition modes.

Unfortunately, MR doesn't reset the duration to the Duration value if you
change back to either the Pile Up or Single Calls mode.  In that case, the
Duration .ini item gets overwritten by the competition value on exit, unless
you are careful to change it after leaving competition mode.


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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Morserunner and Win7?

2012-03-26 Thread Stan Gibbs

Stan Gibbs wrote
 
 According to the help file, the contest duration has to be changed
 manually in the .ini file.  If I do that, I see the expected behavior for
 the WPX and HST competition modes.
 

I should have said that the CompetitionDuration .ini item has to be changed
manually.


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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Excessive ALC on Sideband

2012-03-26 Thread Jon Perelstein
As always, thank you Don.  I have confirmed that R14 is correct.  I'll
leave SSBA setting of 1 with the MH2.

73s
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[Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

2012-03-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/25/2012 10:46 AM, Bill Miller wrote:
 What is recommended for a K-3 power supply? (New owner)

Any decent supply that regulates to about 13VDC will work well provided 
that it is not electrically noisy.  I've used Astron linear supplies, 
and a compact PowerWerx unit rated for 20A. The latter is  switcher, but 
I haven't found any electrical noise.

For many years,  all of the 12V rigs I've owned, and all of the 12V 
accessories on my operating desk, have been powered by a big Costco deep 
cycle battery that is float-charged by an el-cheapo regulated 10A 
switching supply that I bought for $10 at a hamfest about ten years ago. 
That switcher was REAL noisy, but I was able to tame it with a few 
capacitors and chokes on both AC and DC wiring.  10A is plenty to keep 
up with even the most serious contesting.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] KX3 Grounding w/dipole

2012-03-26 Thread Reed Bumgarner
Page 9 of the manual seems to say that creating a ground for the KX3 is
necessary in all cases.  Is this really true when you're using a Buddipole,
Yo-Yo dipole or any dipole fed with coax?
Thanks
Reed AA1RB
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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread Edward R. Cole
I would guess my station is not typical, but after several station 
setups in different houses,  I decided to have my radio desk set out 
from the wall three feet so I could walk in back for dressing cables 
or making changes (which is continuous in my station).  Its messy 
because of that.  I bought a 4x8 sheet of peg board and have it on 
the back of the table for securing cables.  Run a tywrap thru two 
adjacent holes make it easy and fast to secure wiring.  Most coax is 
not connected to the peg board since things are still unfinished.  I 
need more coax switches/relays to reach that state.  Here's link with 
several photos of the station (thru the years):
http://www.kl7uw.com/station%20layout.htm


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[Elecraft] Soliticing Comments on the P3

2012-03-26 Thread Richard Fjeld
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:12:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Buller k...@swbell.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Soliticing Comments on the P3
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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I am very interested in the P3 to add to my K3.  But, I give pause as to the 
usefulness of this device.  Although the cool factor is high...I wonder if it 
worth the dollars.  Of course in ham radio...dollars are not rare, never come 
into consideration, and they grow on trees.
_

I answered Lee offline, but for the benefit of others pondering this same 
question, I have this almost short comment:

Yeah, I used to say what would I ever need one of those for. And what is the 
big-deal about a water-fall?

One thing led to another and I bought a P3.  I don't know how I ever did 
without it. I told Lee many reasons for this, but I forgot to tell him they are 
great for contesting. The small size is convenient for me and adequate as well.

IMHO, to have a P3 is a good reason to buy a K3.  I appreciate that it's not 
computer dependent (even though I have not been without a computer since the 
mid-seventies).


Richard Fjeld, n0ce
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I'd rather be learning.


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[Elecraft] P3SGVA Question

2012-03-26 Thread Toby Pennington
Hi Paul,  Thanks for the confirmation as I was beginning to think this was not 
being seen by most.

Looking forward to the fix.   Toby  W4CAK


Hi Toby, 

I was able to duplicate it here in the lab, so it's on the list for the next
release. 

Thanks and 73, 

Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Purchase - Info

2012-03-26 Thread Gerald Manthey
How about kio3 for digital.
On Mar 26, 2012 11:44 AM, Dave (K7DRT) dtull...@earthlink.net wrote:

 This is my first post.

 I sold my IC-756PRO and now plan to buy a K3.
 I use mostly SSB (20  40 meter nets), and some digital  cw

 Here is the initial configuration I have selected: (Kit)
 K3/100, K3 ATU, K3 Gen. Cov. RX, K3 2.1 kHz 8 pole filter, K3 500 hz 5
 pole filter, K3 6 Khz 8 pole filter, USB adapter, hand mike

 Comments?

 Dave K7DRT Tucson, Az.
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Re: [Elecraft] filters and contests and interference question/opinions

2012-03-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/25/2012 6:20 PM, Bill W4ZV wrote:
 so after the contest I traded my 1.8k XFIL for a 2.1k.

I'm also thinking of doing that. A major reason is that when the station 
you're trying to work is so badly distorted that it's turned to mush and 
hard to copy, a narrower filter seems to make it even worse.

I've set my 1.8 kHz filters to switch in at 2kHz, and mostly run the DSP 
around 2.2 kHz, narrowing it up to 2kHz when needed.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] P3 v1.13 firmware is now available

2012-03-26 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
P3 version 1.13 is now available from the Elecraft website and FTP via P3
utility. 

Release notes for this revision: 

Removed 57,600 and 115,200 baud from the RS-232 menu.

Added SVGA font menu selection to change font size on external display.
(Requires upcoming new release of P3SVGA firmware)

Added SVGA bias menu selection to adjust waterfall color bias on external
display.
(Requires upcoming new release of P3SVGA firmware)

Monochrome waterfall option now works on external SVGA display also.
(Requires upcoming new release of P3SVGA firmware)

Waterfall averaging on external SVGA display is correct after a power cycle.

Span for fixed-tune mode is now set properly upon parameter initialization.

Fixed parameter initialization bug that could cause P3 to lock up after band
change or parameter initialization.


There is a known issue in this release with Averaging Control adjustment and
the SVGA board: 
When exiting Averaging Control on the P3, the encoder must be used instead
of a short tap of the Display/Average key, otherwise the adjustment text
will remain on the external display. 


73, 

Paul

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Purchase - Info

2012-03-26 Thread Bruce Beford
The KIO3 board is a standard item on every K3, it is not an option.
73,
Bruce, N1RX

 How about kio3 for digital.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Purchase - Info

2012-03-26 Thread Vic K2VCO
I recommend the KXV3A transverter interface. Although you may not plan to use 
transverters, it also includes the receive antenna input and output feature. 
Since you are 
getting the general coverage BPF and 6 kHz filter, I presume you intend to use 
it also for 
SWLing, and you might want to use a receive-only antenna. It also makes it easy 
to insert 
a noise canceler like the MFJ without worrying about t/r switching.

On 3/26/2012 9:44 AM, Dave (K7DRT) wrote:
 This is my first post.

 I sold my IC-756PRO and now plan to buy a K3. I use mostly SSB (20  40 meter 
 nets),
 and some digital  cw

 Here is the initial configuration I have selected: (Kit) K3/100, K3 ATU, K3 
 Gen. Cov.
 RX, K3 2.1 kHz 8 pole filter, K3 500 hz 5 pole filter, K3 6 Khz 8 pole 
 filter, USB
 adapter, hand mike

 Comments?

 Dave K7DRT Tucson, Az. 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Grounding w/dipole

2012-03-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/26/2012 10:19 AM, Reed Bumgarner wrote:
 Page 9 of the manual seems to say that creating a ground for the KX3 is
 necessary in all cases.  Is this really true when you're using a Buddipole,
 Yo-Yo dipole or any dipole fed with coax?

This has nothing to do with the radio, but rather comes down to a matter 
of antenna fundamentals. First, any antenna needs an earth ground for 
lightning safety.

Second, to function effectively as an antenna, any single-ended 
antenna that looks like a long wire needs some sort of counterpoise to 
carry the return current (and serve as a return for the electric and 
magnetic fields).  A typical mobile antenna, most verticals, and a wire 
thrown into a tree all fall into this category.

When the rig is tied to ground via the AC power supply and ground rods 
associated with the shack, that wiring and connection functions as a 
counterpoise of sorts.  When an antenna is mounted on a vehicle and the 
coax shield bonded to the body, the body acts as a counterpoise. When 
you use a rubber duck on a VHF or UHF talkie, your body, 
capacity-coupled via your hand to the talkie, functions as a counterpoise.

When operating battery portable with a rig like a KX3, a good practice 
would be to carry lengths of #22 wire that are a bit shorter than a 
quarter wave on the frequencies where you plan to operate, and that can 
be laid out on the ground around you to serve as a counterpoise.  K2AV 
has also written about a folded counterpoise system that you can put 
together that is more compact than simple wires.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K3 for sale

2012-03-26 Thread knesbitt
Thought someone might be interested- For Sale
*Elecraft K3/10-F* Ser. 4210. No flaws, no troubles, just as it came 
from the factory. Non-smoking environment.
Latest firmware: MCU 4.48 / DSP 2.73, 2/29/2012
Full calibration performed, ready to go. All factory packing, 
manual/accessories complete.

Please contact myself off list for photos or further information.
Kirb - VE6IV
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[Elecraft] Medium size monitor for P3?

2012-03-26 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
I don't need a large monitor for the P3, but would like a 7-10 display.
Are there such monitors available anywhere? I've not had any luck in 
finding one.

73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] cable management

2012-03-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/26/2012 10:13 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote:
 I would guess my station is not typical, but after several station
 setups in different houses,  I decided to have my radio desk set out
 from the wall three feet so I could walk in back for dressing cables
 or making changes (which is continuous in my station).

Yes, that's a really good way to do it if you have the space. I don't, 
so my operating desk is built onto the wall, but mounted to the wall in 
such a manner that there's a gap of about two inches between the desktop 
and the wall for cables to pass below it. There's a shelf below it also 
held away from the wall, that holds power supplies, stubs, and even a 
few antenna switches, and a shelf above it, also held away from the 
wall, that holds antenna tuners, a YCCC SO2R box, computer video 
monitor, rotator controllers, etc.  that need some operator interaction.

Locating the desk away from the wall is a HUGE help when hooking up 
radios and accessories. I've operated at N6RO's contest station, which 
is configured that way, and it's really convenient.  wish I had the 
space to do that.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] cable management [END of Thread]

2012-03-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Let's end this thread for now. Its exceeding our informal OT posting limit.

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] Transmitter Alignment

2012-03-26 Thread Mike K8CN
Which parts of the alignment do you wish to do with a scope?  I found it
useful only for the final alignment of the LC filters in transmit mode
because I don't have a sensitive QRP-level wattmeter.  I used a modest old
scope (Tek 2215) with a 10X probe, a BNC tee, and a good dummy load (Bird
TermaLine).  The rest of the alignment can be done adequately with just a
DMM and the prescribed methods of the K2 manual, but filter alignment and
BFO settings can be improved upon by using Spectrogram or any other audio
spectrum analysis tool - there are lots of postings on this issue in the
forum archives.  I ran my K2 very happily for 4 years after using only the
K2 manual's procedures for alignment, then re-did them last summer with
Spectrogram. I can't claim any dramatic performance improvements except that
I could see where the filter passbands were actually located.

73,
Mike, K8CN

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Re: [Elecraft] Medium size monitor for P3?

2012-03-26 Thread David Christ
I see the issue.  I could find monitors under 10  but the resolution 
was 800x600 at the best.  Going to 10 inches only increased that to 
1024x768

David K0LUM

At 6:16 PM + 3/26/12, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:
I don't need a large monitor for the P3, but would like a 7-10 display.
Are there such monitors available anywhere? I've not had any luck in
finding one.

73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] Transmitter Alignment

2012-03-26 Thread Ingo Meyer, DK3RED
Hello Gary,


 Does anybody have a link on how to align my K2 using an oscilloscope?

Does anybody need an oscilloscope to align a K2? The tools on board with an 
PC and 
spectogram are enough, I think. At least I need only this tools ti align my K2.


73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power!
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Re: [Elecraft] Medium size monitor for P3?

2012-03-26 Thread Matt Zilmer
Try the automotive video displays.  They have 7 - 10 inch monitors,
some bare, some packaged.

http://www.qualitymobilevideo.com/7-10-headrest-monitor.aspx as an
example.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:16:11 +, you wrote:

I don't need a large monitor for the P3, but would like a 7-10 display.
Are there such monitors available anywhere? I've not had any luck in 
finding one.

73, doug
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[Elecraft] KITS ELECRAFT: K1, K2 ant automatic tuner kit for K2

2012-03-26 Thread David Perrin
I have some Elecraft kits for sale: a K1 for 15 an 20 with internal battery;
 a K2 basic kit and the Internal automatic antenna tuner kit.
I am pretty well set with Elecraft gear as it is. Thought I would offer them 
here frst.
   73 de dave K1OPQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Koss Headsets for the K3 (Was: Re: Yamaha CM500

2012-03-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  In doing the above mods to the SB40 you end up with a VERY comfortable
  headset with a great sounding mic element.  I just could not get the
  stock SB40 element to sound good.  The HC5 rocks.

The alternative is to use one of the Radio Shack electret elements in
the SB-40 mic housing.  The electret elements are essentially the same
as the one in the CM-500 with performance similar to the new HC-6 -
broader than the HC 5.  With HC-5, HC-6 or an electret element one
will still want to use the K3 TS EQ to roll off audio below 200 Hz
and add 3 to 6 dB per octave of pre-emphasis above 800 Hz.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/25/2012 3:11 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
 Final post on my quest for the ultimate headset for my K3.

 First, a TON of thanks to Lu, W4LT.  His step-by-step for replacing the
 mic housing on the SB40 with the housing from a Heil BM10 was first rate!

 Here's what I ended up doing.

 I replaced the microphone housing on the SB40 with a microphone housing
 from a broken Heil BM10.  Heil still sells the housings and windscreens.

 In place of the crappy SB40 dynamic mic element I replaced it with a
 Heil HC5 that a friend had.  It's a pity that Heil no longer sells the
 HC4 and HC5 elements separately.  Ask around though...you'll find
 someone that has one laying around.

 In doing the above mods to the SB40 you end up with a VERY comfortable
 headset with a great sounding mic element.  I just could not get the
 stock SB40 element to sound good.  The HC5 rocks.

 By the way, I don't own a Yamaha CM500 but others have said it is
 identical to the SB40 except for the CM500 has an electret element and
 requires bias.



 On 3/17/2012 11:50 AM, Lu Romero wrote:
 Gary:

 I own both a Koss SB40 and two Yamaha CM500'ds.

 The Koss and the Yamaha are exactly identical, save for one
 thing... The microphone capsule.

 The Koss SB40 has a dynamic capsule while the Yamaha CM500
 has a electret condenser capsule.  Other than that, the
 headsets are exactly identical in every detail except for
 the name.  Probably made in the same Chinese jobber.

 But here is where the simialarity ends:  The Yamaha
 electrect capsule is flat and can be made to sound really
 great on the K3.  The Koss dynamic capsule is all bass, very
 mushy, and has low output.  Even engaging the K3 equalizers
 and tweaking a lot, I could not make my SB40 sound very good
 at all.  The capsule just sounds ugly.

 The fix for this is to remove the two screws that hold the
 capsule on the SB40's boom and remove the offending
 microphone that looks surprisingly like a cheap Chinese
 dynamic earphone (its actually the same exact size as a IPod
 headset element and looks identical!) and replace it.  In my
 case, I had an old Heil BM-5 with a bad earpiece but a
 perfectly good DX4 capsule.  I removed the plastic mic
 holder from the rigid Heil boom, and with a slight widening
 of the boom inlet with a Dremel tool, it fits right on to
 the SB40 boom!  Solder up the existing wires from the Koss
 mic and you have a wonderfully comfortable headset with a
 very flexible boom that, in my case, works great on my
 secondary Kenwood TS570 rig.

 Of course, YMMV, but it works for me here!

 Lu - W4LT
 Using the AL/K-Line:  K3/P3/ALS600/MFJ998
 Al Kaline: 1960's Detroit Tigers Slugger

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 Message: 20
 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:33:06 -0500
 From: Gary K9GSgaryk...@wi.rr.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] Koss Headsets for the K3 (Was: Re:
 Yamaha CM500
   Headset)www
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID:4f62b472.6020...@wi.rr.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 An update:

 I stopped by the Koss Factory Store today.  I looked at the
 SB49 first.
 (The SB45 is identical to the SB49 but without the volume
 control in the
 cord).  I didn't really like the way the SB49 fit.  It's a
 very
 subjective thing but comfort was what I was looking for.
 The other
 thing I didn't like was the flexible boom for the microphone
 was very
 whippy.  It was almost like a wet noodle.  Not good.

 Next I looked at the SB40.  The fit was great and very
 comfortable for
 the 5 minutes I wore it.  The mic boom was stiffer too.  The
 SB40 has a
 dynamic mic element.  I ended up buying the SB40.  The price
 was $39.00
 plus sales tax.

 I was all set to buy a Yamaha CM500 but I really wanted to
 see how they
 fit first.  I looked at a couple places and couldn't find a
 local store
 that had the CM500.  For this reason I look at Koss.  The
 other thing
 Koss has going for it is the limited lifetime warranty.
 Being that I
 live near the factory this is a big advantage.  Second is
 that I've
 owned other Koss products and have always been very happy
 with them.

 As I said I've never used the Yamaha CM500 but the Koss SB40
 looks very
 similar.

 I'm also kind of a headphone junkie.  With the K3 I figure
 that most
 modern headsets have much more performance (frequency
 response, etc)
 than one needs for communication. 

[Elecraft] FS- K2/10 loaded and extra components

2012-03-26 Thread Nick Marsh
Hello folks,

I'm selling my K2/10 to help finance my KX3 purchase. What I have are:

K2/10 SN 4864 lovingly built by Rich Arland K7SZ and has all the latest
updates as of 6/2011.
KSB2 SSB module
KAT2 autotuner module
KDSP2 DSP module
KIOS2 I/O module
K160RX 160 meter module
KBT2 internal battery
MH2 Microphone
FDIMP Dimple weighted knob
K6XX Visible CW tuning indicator

Power output measured by Bird 43 about 12 watts on 40M into a dummy load.
All functions appear to be operating to Elecraft specifications.

Extra items:
KPA100 100 watt amplifier
KAT100 antenna tuner

KPA100 tested output 55 watts into dummy load. Needs the latest update
installed from Elecraft, parts are included to update.
KAT100 - untested, purchased used as in working condition. I have no reason
to feel otherwise about the tuner.

All manuals are included. I am not interested in separating the above
items, would rather sell as a complete package. Worst case problem is
possibly replacement of at least one final output transistor in the
KPA100.  I thought I would go through the exercise of adding the update kit
to the KPA100 but just don't have time to do that and have lost the
inclination.

$950 will puchase all of the above and shipping is included at that price.
Paypal add 3% ($28.50) to the total.

73 and best regards for reading my posting.

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI
Cincinnati, OH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

2012-03-26 Thread Adrian
A solid 15v (adjustable to 15v) supply is best, capable of 30 amp with good
regulation.
Good quality switch mode recommended.

 A cable upgrade into the K3 is recommended too.
The original K3 factory cable has too much volt drop, my replacement is 4 x
the size of original csa.

15v in with cable upgrade to provide ~0.4v volt drop provides;

Significant TX IM3 performance

Elimination of high current warmings and bucks especially on 6m

Instant full power as set on turn on  first TX, no K3 power creep up to
full level after a while issue.

No problem to run a P3 with svga adaptor direct from K3 as is without the
0.6 amp resettable fuse tripping.
No mods required, and P3 turns on with the K3.

Mine runs at 15.2v no-load and 14.8v loaded, and has never performed better.

Adrian ... vk4tux

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2012 3:19 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

On 3/25/2012 10:46 AM, Bill Miller wrote:
 What is recommended for a K-3 power supply? (New owner)

Any decent supply that regulates to about 13VDC will work well provided that
it is not electrically noisy.  I've used Astron linear supplies, and a
compact PowerWerx unit rated for 20A. The latter is  switcher, but I haven't
found any electrical noise.

For many years,  all of the 12V rigs I've owned, and all of the 12V
accessories on my operating desk, have been powered by a big Costco deep
cycle battery that is float-charged by an el-cheapo regulated 10A switching
supply that I bought for $10 at a hamfest about ten years ago. 
That switcher was REAL noisy, but I was able to tame it with a few
capacitors and chokes on both AC and DC wiring.  10A is plenty to keep up
with even the most serious contesting.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Rotten QRM (with apologies to H.P.Maxim)

2012-03-26 Thread Ralph Parker
...dozens of stations whose audio was so badly distorted that I could not
copy their call, even listening to it many times One of these times I'm
going to make a list of the most awful ones and post it far and wide.

I'll help you with that!
(Not to mention a poor choice of microphones and bad voice keyer recordings!)
One of these days I'm going to spend a contest recording the offenders, and
sending them the audio files. Probably won't help, though - some (many) of
the offenders are the 'big gun' NA stations.
H.P. could not have imagined it would be this bad.
Another reason to stay on CW. (Don't get me started on key clicks!)

Ralph, VE7XF

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