Re: [Elecraft] [P3] Missing Waterfall

2012-04-20 Thread Matt Zilmer
Tap the DISPLAY key, upper right.  That key toggles between waterfall
on and off.

matt W6NIA

On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:46:27 -0700, you wrote:

>In helping a friend today I noticed that he didn't have a waterfall on his
>P3 display.
>
>So, I tried to adjust it and nothing helped.
>
>I updated him to 1.13 hoping that at least that would allow a reset.
>
>If I go to the Waterfall menu selection and adjust it it seems normal but
>there is still no waterfall display when finished.
>
>Checked the cabling but don't think that's the problem since he as the
>normal display, less waterfall.
>
>I decided he must be out of water and suggested he pour a quart or so in
>the top of the P3 but he didn't think that would help.  :-)
>
>Very strange indeed.  everything seems to function fine except the
>waterfall.
>
>Ideas?
>
>Rick
>K6LE
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[Elecraft] [P3] Missing Waterfall

2012-04-20 Thread Rick Prather
In helping a friend today I noticed that he didn't have a waterfall on his
P3 display.

So, I tried to adjust it and nothing helped.

I updated him to 1.13 hoping that at least that would allow a reset.

If I go to the Waterfall menu selection and adjust it it seems normal but
there is still no waterfall display when finished.

Checked the cabling but don't think that's the problem since he as the
normal display, less waterfall.

I decided he must be out of water and suggested he pour a quart or so in
the top of the P3 but he didn't think that would help.  :-)

Very strange indeed.  everything seems to function fine except the
waterfall.

Ideas?

Rick
K6LE
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Re: [Elecraft] k1 speaker output wimpy

2012-04-20 Thread Fred Jensen
On 4/20/2012 7:29 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> When the cone moves forward on a bare speaker, the air pressure created
> simply moves around the edges and fills the partial vacuum created behind.
> The end result is no sound pressure waves leaving the speaker. The only
> waves created are those high enough in frequency that the outer part of the
> speaker acts as a self-baffle, leaving only a small center portion of the
> speaker to produce a sound pressure wave.

And Ron has just described the plastic-cased "kitchen radio" of the 50's 
that my Grandma listened to "The Guiding Light" on.  No lows, all highs.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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Re: [Elecraft] k1 speaker output wimpy

2012-04-20 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yes, and if the speaker does not have an airtight seal between it and the
baffle (the cover on the rig in this case) the mid and lower frequencies
will be highly attenuated. 

When the cone moves forward on a bare speaker, the air pressure created
simply moves around the edges and fills the partial vacuum created behind.
The end result is no sound pressure waves leaving the speaker. The only
waves created are those high enough in frequency that the outer part of the
speaker acts as a self-baffle, leaving only a small center portion of the
speaker to produce a sound pressure wave. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
Andrew,

That is true for the standard speaker, but with the KBT1, the speaker is
changed to a smaller one that has no mounting screws, it just sits with its
magnet settled into the hole in the battery bracket - it needs to have a
foam washer around its magnet to kee3p it from creating "rattlie" 
noises.

73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] Would a matching speaker be nice??

2012-04-20 Thread Rick Dettinger
I suspect so, as some of us spent over $100 on a tuning knob!

73,
Rick Dettinger  K7MW



>
> I would postulate that there are many folks who would gladly shell out
> $150 or more for a matching speaker.
>
> 73,
> Doug, W7KF
> http://www.w7kf.com
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[Elecraft] K3 12VDC CURRENT MOD - EXCELLENT

2012-04-20 Thread Ron Durie SIL.org
HI Wayne and Eric,

I just finished installing the 12VDC Increased Current mod on the K3.  
The P3 now is working perfectly on the K3.  
Thank you for providing this mod for all of us with P3s.

I love the physical construction of the K3.  It is pure joy to work on it. 

I am looking forward to the new KAT500 next.  

My Best Regards to all of you at Elecraft.  

Ron Durie  WB4OOA
K-Line  K3 #6175;   P3 #88;   KPA500 #127



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Re: [Elecraft] Would a matching speaker be nice??

2012-04-20 Thread Doug Smith
A spreadsheet analysis may lead one to conclude that the project is 
unworthy.

But, the spreadsheet does not have field types to include the value of 
visual impact upon the whole.  Or, a measure of "completeness" of the 
product line. Or measure the negative impact of having to re-purpose a 
speaker system that looks like it ought to be in the room of one's 
teenage son.

I would postulate that there are many folks who would gladly shell out 
$150 or more for a matching speaker.

Drake got it right.  The speaker cabinet was large enough to also hold 
the power supply.  What did the power supply and the speaker have in 
common?  Nothing.  But everyone needed a power supply and everyone 
needed a speaker.  And, the speaker very nicely completed the 4-Line.  
In fact, a 4-Line looks naked without the speaker.  But, that doesn't 
fit in the spreadsheet either.

Engineering without art is less than it could be.  Not all business 
decisions should be made with a spreadsheet..

73,
Doug, W7KF
http://www.w7kf.com


On 04/20/2012 06:50 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Steve,
>
> This subject comes up from time to time, and the result (so far) has
> always been the same - an Elecraft speaker must be priced much higher
> than its value to the Elecraft principles.  So until that bridge can be
> mastered, you are not likely to see an Elecraft speaker.
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Re: [Elecraft] Would a matching speaker be nice??

2012-04-20 Thread Doug Smith
How about a speaker cabinet with mounting holes such that a commonly 
available power supply could be mounted inside?  With a slot on the back 
panel for the incoming and outgoing power leads?  All it would take 
would be a loose alliance with a power supply company like Samlex for 
example.  Elecraft would not be in the power supply business and 
wouldn't have to support power supplies.  They would just be offering a 
valued accessory that would complete the product line and be bolt-in 
ready for those who wanted a new power supply.

73,
Doug, W7KF
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On 04/20/2012 05:43 PM, redtar...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> I wonder if Elecraft might consider offering a nice, matching, external 
> speaker for the K2/3 line?.
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Re: [Elecraft] k1 speaker output wimpy

2012-04-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Andrew,

That is true for the standard speaker, but with the KBT1, the speaker is 
changed to a smaller one that has no mounting screws, it just sits with 
its magnet settled into the hole in the battery bracket - it needs to 
have a foam washer around its magnet to kee3p it from creating "rattlie" 
noises.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/20/2012 9:16 PM, Andrew Moore wrote:
> If I remember correctly, the speaker is also very sensitive to distortion
> of its metal frame (and therefore cone) if you tighten down the nuts too
> much. You may have already tried this but try backing them off and
> readjusting them so they're "finger tight" and no more. If things rattle,
> tighten down a little more.  Worth a try anyway.
>
> --Andrew, NV1B
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM, af6ni  wrote:
>
>> I just purchased this K1 used. I have had others in the past, but this is
>> the
>> first with the battery option. It seems as though the audio from the
>> speaker
>> is no where near what I remember on other k1's. Is this common with the
>> speaker on the case for the battery option?
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Would a matching speaker be nice??

2012-04-20 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I picked up a pair of HP computer speakers that are black and look pretty nice 
with the K3.  They were $20 at Walmart for the pair.  That is about the price 
of shipping from Elecraft.  It is pretty hard for Elecraft to compete with the 
computer mass market.
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
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 From: Don Wilhelm 
To: redtar...@nycap.rr.com 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Would a matching speaker be nice??
 
Steve,

This subject comes up from time to time, and the result (so far) has 
always been the same - an Elecraft speaker must be priced much higher 
than its value to the Elecraft principles.  So until that bridge can be 
mastered, you are not likely to see an Elecraft speaker.

It may come one day, but for today it does not exist -- the K3 (and KX3) 
would like to have 2 speakers for the audio effects (AFX, diversity for 
the K3 and dual watch for the KX3).

I can tell you that it has been considered, but discarded because the 
cost of offering an Elecraft speaker would greatly exceed what other 
speaker systems would cost -- yes, the parts cost $5 in quantity, but by 
the time you add all the overhead costs, it has to be sold for $150 each 
(those numbers are not based on anything other than my imagination, but 
do describe the point I am trying to make.

That is nothing different than the situation with branded and dedicated 
speakers offered by National, Collins, Hallicrafters, etc. in days past, 
but Elecraft does have owners who insist on giving the customer value 
for their money spent and cannot justify what they would need to charge 
for an Elecraft branded speaker when there are quality less cost 
speakers available on the open marketplace.  If you look at the prices 
of those speakers of old and compare them with the prices of the 
components, you will find that you paid more for the wrappings than you 
did for anything else.

Take a look in the pro-audio world for small monitor speakers, or in the 
consumer speaker world for rear speakers for Dolby 5.1 systems.  You 
will find a lot of nice speakers in black cabinets that will compliment 
the K3 (and KX3 quite nicely).  (OK, some of those speakers are not very 
efficient, and may not work well with the KX3, but for the K3 they will 
work just fine.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/20/2012 7:43 PM, redtar...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> I wonder if Elecraft might consider offering a nice, matching, external 
> speaker for the K2/3 line?. It's nice to have the audio coming straight out 
> in front of you not bouncing out from the top cover. I have always owned the 
> matching speaker for any of the rigs I've owned over the past 45 years. 
> Anyone else out there think the same way?
>
> 73  Steve/k2we  K3/100 #6131
>
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Re: [Elecraft] k1 speaker output wimpy

2012-04-20 Thread Andrew Moore
If I remember correctly, the speaker is also very sensitive to distortion
of its metal frame (and therefore cone) if you tighten down the nuts too
much. You may have already tried this but try backing them off and
readjusting them so they're "finger tight" and no more. If things rattle,
tighten down a little more.  Worth a try anyway.

--Andrew, NV1B

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM, af6ni  wrote:

> I just purchased this K1 used. I have had others in the past, but this is
> the
> first with the battery option. It seems as though the audio from the
> speaker
> is no where near what I remember on other k1's. Is this common with the
> speaker on the case for the battery option?
>
>
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[Elecraft] Lost the Waterfall

2012-04-20 Thread Rick Prather
In helping a friend today I noticed that he didn't have a waterfall on his P3 
display.

So, I tried to adjust it and nothing helped.

I updated him to 1.13 hoping that at least that would allow a reset.

If I go to the Waterfall menu selection and adjust it it seems normal but there 
is still no waterfall display when finished.

Checked the cabling but don't think that's the problem since he as the normal 
display, less waterfall.

I decided he must be out of water and suggested he pour a quart or so in the 
top of the P3 but he didn't think that would help.  :-)

Very strange indeed.  everything seems to function fine except the waterfall.

Ideas?

Rick
K6LE

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Re: [Elecraft] Would a matching speaker be nice??

2012-04-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve,

This subject comes up from time to time, and the result (so far) has 
always been the same - an Elecraft speaker must be priced much higher 
than its value to the Elecraft principles.  So until that bridge can be 
mastered, you are not likely to see an Elecraft speaker.

It may come one day, but for today it does not exist -- the K3 (and KX3) 
would like to have 2 speakers for the audio effects (AFX, diversity for 
the K3 and dual watch for the KX3).

I can tell you that it has been considered, but discarded because the 
cost of offering an Elecraft speaker would greatly exceed what other 
speaker systems would cost -- yes, the parts cost $5 in quantity, but by 
the time you add all the overhead costs, it has to be sold for $150 each 
(those numbers are not based on anything other than my imagination, but 
do describe the point I am trying to make.

That is nothing different than the situation with branded and dedicated 
speakers offered by National, Collins, Hallicrafters, etc. in days past, 
but Elecraft does have owners who insist on giving the customer value 
for their money spent and cannot justify what they would need to charge 
for an Elecraft branded speaker when there are quality less cost 
speakers available on the open marketplace.  If you look at the prices 
of those speakers of old and compare them with the prices of the 
components, you will find that you paid more for the wrappings than you 
did for anything else.

Take a look in the pro-audio world for small monitor speakers, or in the 
consumer speaker world for rear speakers for Dolby 5.1 systems.  You 
will find a lot of nice speakers in black cabinets that will compliment 
the K3 (and KX3 quite nicely).  (OK, some of those speakers are not very 
efficient, and may not work well with the KX3, but for the K3 they will 
work just fine.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/20/2012 7:43 PM, redtar...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> I wonder if Elecraft might consider offering a nice, matching, external 
> speaker for the K2/3 line?. It's nice to have the audio coming straight out 
> in front of you not bouncing out from the top cover. I have always owned the 
> matching speaker for any of the rigs I've owned over the past 45 years. 
> Anyone else out there think the same way?
>
> 73  Steve/k2we  K3/100 #6131
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Would a matching speaker be nice??

2012-04-20 Thread Rick Bates
It could be part of a means (a box) to raise the soon to be seen KAT500 to
the standard Elecraft height, maintaining the (K) line console appearance.

Ok, ok, so I never had a Collins S line, but it would look cool.

Rick WA6NHC

-Original Message-
From: redtar...@nycap.rr.com

I wonder if Elecraft might consider offering a nice, matching, external
speaker for the K2/3 line?. It's nice to have the audio coming straight out
in front of you not bouncing out from the top cover. I have always owned the
matching speaker for any of the rigs I've owned over the past 45 years.
Anyone else out there think the same way?

73  Steve/k2we  K3/100 #6131

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[Elecraft] Would a matching speaker be nice??

2012-04-20 Thread redtarga4
I wonder if Elecraft might consider offering a nice, matching, external speaker 
for the K2/3 line?. It's nice to have the audio coming straight out in front of 
you not bouncing out from the top cover. I have always owned the matching 
speaker for any of the rigs I've owned over the past 45 years. Anyone else out 
there think the same way?

73  Steve/k2we  K3/100 #6131
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Re: [Elecraft] AM mode added to the KX3 (etc.)

2012-04-20 Thread w0ih
Wayne,

It sounds like you're having fun with your new toy, putting all the pieces
together.

I'm very jealous of you.  You have a job (where I assume that you get paid)
doing exactly what you love to do).  I have a son-in-law that is a climber
and he sells and markets climbing equipment.  My daughter is a photographer,
doing what she loves as well.   

There is no better job than doing what you love to do!

Keep having fun with my new radio (whenever it comes!..)

Mike


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[Elecraft] K2/10 SSB operating notes

2012-04-20 Thread Kurt Cramer

I run a K2/10 on a Southern AZ RACES Home Unit 75 meter SSB net every Saturday 
morning. I am heard by everyone in Southern Arizona. The main point of the net 
is to encourage stations to maintain and operate on a backup power source. I 
maybe 10 db weaker, but I have about 50 pounds less battery then the 100 watt 
stations. I check into a state wide RACES net on Sunday mornings and almost all 
stations copy me. I guess I think every Amateur should have a 10 watt station. 
Especially if they have more then one transceiver in their station. I admit I 
have the 100 amp for the K2 and several older vintage stations and a amp with a 
3-500Z and I use them all at different times, but if I could only have one 
station it would be the K2/10.
Kurt, W7QHD   
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Re: [Elecraft] (K3) 12VDC Current Mod Kit Received

2012-04-20 Thread Bill Swindell - K1LED
Thanks for the time information. I have my kit and was not sure if/when I
would install it. I have a relay box that externally powers the P3 directly
from my 13.8V power supply.

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[Elecraft] KX1 FS

2012-04-20 Thread K8QI
I am selling my KX1 SN 2520.  The 4-band KX1 is a little more than 1 year old
and is in like new condition plus has been kept in my shack in a non smoking
environment.  It operates as specified by Elecraft.  No errors were made
during construction and it functioned properly during each test phase.  I
originally thought I would use it hiking but that never happened.  I've only
used it in my shack.  So I decided to sell.   It includes the KXB3080 30 &
80 meter adapter and the KXPD1 Plug in Paddle.  Manual and option
instructions also included.  I will sell for $325 including shipping to
CONUS.  Paypal or MO. 
Please contact me via email
Barry K8QI

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Re: [Elecraft] Adjustment of TX & RX Equalizers via software [K3]

2012-04-20 Thread Jack Berry
Jim,

When you say it won't install, do you mean it doesn't connect to your K3 or it 
won't complete the installation on you computer?

Either way, I'll bet the author can provide some guidance as well as others on 
this list. 


Bill, N2BC is the author. His email is N2BC (at) stny.rr.com

Good luck!

Jack - WE5ST



From: "jpk5...@cox.net" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Fri, April 20, 2012 1:54:50 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Adjustment of TX & RX Equalizers via software [K3]

Is there a piece of external software that can 
be used to adjust the K3's TX and RX 
equalizers via computer?  I know about 
K3_EZ which did accomplish this task plus 
several other nice features, but I was only 
able to get it to work one time and that was a 
long time ago.  Now, I cannot even get the 
program to install and I've tried several 
different computers.

Perhaps there's another one out there that 
has escaped my notice or maybe someone is 
toiling away over a hot keyboard, working on 
this very task, as I write this.

Any help and/or information would be helpful.

73,
Jim - K5LAD


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[Elecraft] Elecraft W2 on 70MHz band

2012-04-20 Thread Iain Kelly
Greetings list,

I recently added the W2 to monitor the power output at M0PCB on HF and 
VHF with the K3 and amplifiers. For this it is great, I particularly 
like the speed at which it reacts to the output power.

I am in the process of adding an external transverter so i can make use 
of my K3 and P3 on the 70MHz band, and that got me thinking about the W2.

1) I know the DCHF-200a is specified to 54MHz but how would the unit 
perform up to 70.5MHz?

2) As I already have the DC2000a and DCV/U-200a sensors attached is 
there an easy way to add a third sensor to the set-up? I realise I could 
add another W2 to the shack but that seems overkill and I can certainly 
more easily justify a 3rd sensor above a 2nd W2 at the present time.

Will try to look out for any responses to the list, but I use the daily 
digest and am prone to skim reading ;-)

Many thanks for any input, and thanks to Elecraft for a great radio.

73, Iain M0PCB
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Re: [Elecraft] Adjustment of TX & RX Equalizers via software [K3]

2012-04-20 Thread Adrian
Jim did you make sure you had Microsoft NET 2 installed? What was the error?
K3EZ is what you need.

Adrian ... vk4tux
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> Is there a piece of external software that can 
> be used to adjust the K3's TX and RX 
> equalizers via computer?  I know about 
> K3_EZ which did accomplish this task plus 
> several other nice features, but I was only 
> able to get it to work one time and that was a 
> long time ago.  Now, I cannot even get the 
> program to install and I've tried several 
> different computers.
> 
> Perhaps there's another one out there that 
> has escaped my notice or maybe someone is 
> toiling away over a hot keyboard, working on 
> this very task, as I write this.
> 
> Any help and/or information would be helpful.
> 
> 73,
> Jim - K5LAD
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[Elecraft] Adjustment of TX & RX Equalizers via software [K3]

2012-04-20 Thread jpk5lad
Is there a piece of external software that can 
be used to adjust the K3's TX and RX 
equalizers via computer?  I know about 
K3_EZ which did accomplish this task plus 
several other nice features, but I was only 
able to get it to work one time and that was a 
long time ago.  Now, I cannot even get the 
program to install and I've tried several 
different computers.

Perhaps there's another one out there that 
has escaped my notice or maybe someone is 
toiling away over a hot keyboard, working on 
this very task, as I write this.

Any help and/or information would be helpful.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Ray Sills
Plus... if the audio levels are properly set, the distortion levels  
should be very low.  Certainly, the distortions of the RF signal due  
to propagation would be worse than the conversion distortions.
If you use the on-board method of sending RTTY or PSK31, you would  
get the benefit of not having to convert analog audio to digital, etc.

73 de Ray
K2ULR

On Apr 20, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 4/20/2012 9:36 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
>> With a K3, the audio starts in digital form in the DSP.
>> Converting it to analog to convert it back to digital for input
>> to the computer can only introduce distortion.
>>
>> I'm lobbying Elecraft for a direct digital interface.
>
> Yes, but -- there is the issue of the FORMAT of the digital data, both
> from the points of view of encoding and of physical interface,  
> which are
> likely to be quite different within the radio and the computer, and  
> the
> two systems must be able to talk to each other. Given that there are
> many low cost A/D -- D/A converter/interfaces on the market that work
> fine, that's a wheel that Elecraft does not need to invent.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] (K3) 12VDC Current Mod Kit Received

2012-04-20 Thread Lou Voerman W2ROW

Lou Voerman W2ROW wrote
> 
> I just received this kit which increases the current available at the 12V
> DC Out jack on the K3 to drive a P3 with P3SVGA. The kit consists of
> replacing a surface mount diode, a through hole fuse and through hole
> choke. Elecraft sent me this kit without my asking.   :)
> 

I installed it in about 30 minutes and did end up removing the KPA3 module.
I suspect it would have taken me longer if I had tried to get at the
components while leaving the KPA3 in place. All works well. It might be nice
if Elecraft provided a stick on label with the 1A limit to cover the 500mA
label on the rear panel.

Lou  W2ROW


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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/20/2012 9:36 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> With a K3, the audio starts in digital form in the DSP.
> Converting it to analog to convert it back to digital for input
> to the computer can only introduce distortion.
>
> I'm lobbying Elecraft for a direct digital interface.

Yes, but -- there is the issue of the FORMAT of the digital data, both 
from the points of view of encoding and of physical interface, which are 
likely to be quite different within the radio and the computer, and the 
two systems must be able to talk to each other. Given that there are 
many low cost A/D -- D/A converter/interfaces on the market that work 
fine, that's a wheel that Elecraft does not need to invent.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 SSB operating notes

2012-04-20 Thread Barry LaZar
Wayne,
 I just sold my K2 to a friend so that I would have space for the 
KX3 that should be coming soon. He's running 5-10 Watts with an antenna 
in the attic that is really less than optimum, yet he's working all 
sorts of DX with the reports you're getting from a net close by. Move on 
up the spectrum to 15 and 17 and really do some gee whiz things. It 
really is a lot of fun. And, like he says "It's like stealing home".

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 4/20/2012 12:17 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Believe it or not, every once in awhile I get a break from firmware/
> manuals/etc. and actually get on the air.
>
> I was just listening on 40 m SSB this morning with the KX3 and decided
> to do a little experiment. I shut off the 13.8-V external power supply
> I usually use with the KX3, so the rig was running from the internal
> NiMH pack. I set power to 5 W, which the KX3 can deliver even with the
> supply voltage reading around 9 volts key-down. I located one of the
> many daytime nets on 40 m LSB, tuned up the internal ATU on my random
> wire (not on frequency, of course!) and checked into the net. No
> sweat. I got a 5-7 report from the net control station, a few hundred
> miles away, despite my electrically short antenna that's only 15 feet
> off the ground.
>
> For this contact I was using a Radio Shack headset/mic designed for
> use with computers. It has two 3.5-mm stereo plugs, one for mic, the
> other for stereo audio. The sound quality is surprisingly good. One
> really nice thing about this particular headset is that I don't need
> to touch the MIC BIAS or MIC BTN settings that I use with the Elecraft
> MH3. I just switch to VOX rather than PTT.
>
> Dual watch also comes in handy on 40-m LSB at this time of day. While
> I was listening to a net on 7268.5 with VFO B (in the right audio
> channel), I was tuning around looking for other nets or CQs +/- 15 kHz
> from this frequency with VFO A (in the left channel).
>
> As I was writing this, the KX3's AUTO-OFF timer kicked in and shut
> down the rig, saving my batteries :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Bill Frantz
With a K3, the audio starts in digital form in the DSP. 
Converting it to analog to convert it back to digital for input 
to the computer can only introduce distortion.

I'm lobbying Elecraft for a direct digital interface. :-)

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV


On 4/18/12 at 21:54, j...@audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote:

>Right, and I've long promoted that concept.  BUT -- I've 
>recently been comparing several (five so far) outboard A/D 
>converters, four models that connect to the computer via USB, 
>on that uses Firewire, and I've found that all of them result 
>in noticeably more reliable decoding of RTTY and JT65 signals, 
>especially weaker signals.

On 4/19/12 at 7:02, li...@subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) wrote:

>This is because the computer based sound cards - particularly those in
>laptops and netbooks - are so bad.  The internal power supplies are
>typically very noisy and the computer main board designers do not take
>care of things like common audio return paths, proper power supply
>bypassing, "pin 1" issues, etc.
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[Elecraft] KX3 SSB operating notes

2012-04-20 Thread Wayne Burdick
Believe it or not, every once in awhile I get a break from firmware/ 
manuals/etc. and actually get on the air.

I was just listening on 40 m SSB this morning with the KX3 and decided  
to do a little experiment. I shut off the 13.8-V external power supply  
I usually use with the KX3, so the rig was running from the internal  
NiMH pack. I set power to 5 W, which the KX3 can deliver even with the  
supply voltage reading around 9 volts key-down. I located one of the  
many daytime nets on 40 m LSB, tuned up the internal ATU on my random  
wire (not on frequency, of course!) and checked into the net. No  
sweat. I got a 5-7 report from the net control station, a few hundred  
miles away, despite my electrically short antenna that's only 15 feet  
off the ground.

For this contact I was using a Radio Shack headset/mic designed for  
use with computers. It has two 3.5-mm stereo plugs, one for mic, the  
other for stereo audio. The sound quality is surprisingly good. One  
really nice thing about this particular headset is that I don't need  
to touch the MIC BIAS or MIC BTN settings that I use with the Elecraft  
MH3. I just switch to VOX rather than PTT.

Dual watch also comes in handy on 40-m LSB at this time of day. While  
I was listening to a net on 7268.5 with VFO B (in the right audio  
channel), I was tuning around looking for other nets or CQs +/- 15 kHz  
from this frequency with VFO A (in the left channel).

As I was writing this, the KX3's AUTO-OFF timer kicked in and shut  
down the rig, saving my batteries :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] SMT and the K3 - Nerves

2012-04-20 Thread Terry Schieler
I install a good number of SMDs.  I use much the same process as Ron D'Eau 
Claire mentions in his post and have never damaged a board.  The dental 
instruments have been a part of my three tool boxes for two dozen years and are 
very handy.  I've never had a problem removing an SMD by cutting it in half 
with very small, sharp flush cutters.

One thing that I experimented with for SMD mounting in tight situations is the 
use of a small model airplane fuel pump.  Available at most hobby shops, the 
fuel pump is a small, inexpensive electric motor with neoprene fuel lines 
attached to the input and output. They are used to pump model airplane engine 
fuel from the storage tank into the model's fuel tank at the flying field.  For 
SMD installation I only use the "inlet" line and free air, not fuel ;o)  

I cut the end of a 36" long neoprene fuel inlet line as square as I can.  I 
power the fuel pump with a small 12V power supply I have on my bench.  Once the 
pump is on, I use the vacuum of the inlet tube to suck onto the top of the SMD 
component (different size tubes can be adapted to accommodate larger or smaller 
SMD devices.)  The suction holds the SMD device quite firmly while I work the 
end of the tube to maneuver the SMD into place.  And, it continues to hold 
while I solder one end to the board.  After that, my fuel pump "third hand" is 
set aside until the next time its needed.

While this may sound a bit extreme, the idea came to me one day after 
"launching" half a dozen SMD devices across the room with tweezers.  I had 
"launched" a few distinct "expletives" as well.

You know what they say:  "Frustration is the mother of invention". Or, 
something like that.  ;o)

Terry, W0FM



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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SMT and the K3 - Nerves

Keep in mind that all of the step-by-step procedures in the Elecraft documents 
were actually done by the writer, tested by others, and then refined and 
improved by customer feedback. That's in accordance with Wayne's basic 
requirements for Elecraft manuals. So if you take the time to follow them 
closely, you are getting the benefit of the experience of a great many others 
who have been there before you.

I have removed hundreds of two-terminal SMDs both by cutting them in half or by 
unsoldering one end at a time and lifting the part with never any damage to the 
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[Elecraft] [K3] [KX3] I phone headset for mic

2012-04-20 Thread Mike Rodgers
A few weeks ago there was talk of 4 conductor plugs for kx3 from mouser. 

If the female and male are available, I'm thinking of trying the I phone 
headset. I assume it's electret. 

Does anyone have the mouser numbers and layout/pinout for the iPhone plug? Is 
anyone ahead of me on this?
There might be a problem with shielding, don't know. 

73
Mike R

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Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF & Echolink mobile
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Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet

2012-04-20 Thread VE3GNO Daniel
wow half K$ box...waaay too expensive. Maybe a raspberry pi with a capture usb 
card and a smart linux software will be a decent answer... and can be used on 
both ends and is waaay cheaper.On the other hand the jpg pr mpeg transport is 
eating lots of bandwidth, I am thinking to a flash server/player...why not?
 
VE3GNO Daniel

 


From: Bob W7KWS 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:43:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet

Well, I got the VGA to S-Video converter today from Amazon and hooked
everything up.  It does a decent job converting 1280x1024 RGB video to
composite and S-Video.  A cable from its RCA output direct to a TV looks
pretty good.

Once I introduce the Slingbox, it all falls apart.  One problem is that my
slingbox classic set for my maximum upload speed of 768 kilobits/sec really
degrades the video just as Daniel predicted it would.  It is still usable
but hard to look at.  The main difficulty is that the Slingbox introduces a
six-second buffer delay.  This just doesn't work for tuning a radio and
watching the results. 

Back to the drawing board.  I see that Grandstream makes a fairly
inexpensive ($120) video server (GXV3501) aimed at the security market.  Has
anyone used one of these who can give input on the buffer delay before I
waste the bucks?  One suggestion has been the Axis servers but they are half
a kilobuck.  A bit rich for this.

I may bring my K3 & P3 here and continue using the TS-480 for remote.  I
really miss the P3.

Thanks,

Bob, W7KWS

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Re: [Elecraft] put together for kx3 kit?

2012-04-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Joe,

The KX3 assembly manual is not out yet, and they are refining the 
hardware assembly steps.
The kit has no discreet components - unless you can classify a speaker 
assembly as a discreet component.
There are 2 main boards in the KX3 and each option is an additional board.
Construction should not take too long - assemble the enclosure and mount 
the boards - everything plugs together - no soldering required.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/20/2012 9:39 AM, af6ni wrote:
> I have the same question. I'm thinking of ordering a KX3, but wonder how much
> is involved in building the kit?
>
> There seems to be mucho info on the KX3 but hardly any on how the kit goes
> together. Is it just a couple of boards? Are there discreet components?
> Where can I find the info?
>
> Thanks and 73.
> Joe
> AF6NI
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Re: [Elecraft] put together for kx3 kit?

2012-04-20 Thread Thomas Horsten
Last I heard (middle of last week?) they were still putting together the
kit assembly manual, and making minor modifications to the hardware. I am
sure there will be a reaction when the kit manual becomes available for
download, both here and on the KX3 group.

I too am quite curious about this, I am expecting it to be a 2-3 hour job
and probably a bit tricky in places, considering the amount of electronics
squeezed into that small space. I'm expecting at least 4-5 boards including
the ATU and battery charger.

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 20 April 2012 14:39, af6ni  wrote:

> I have the same question. I'm thinking of ordering a KX3, but wonder how
> much
> is involved in building the kit?
>
> There seems to be mucho info on the KX3 but hardly any on how the kit goes
> together. Is it just a couple of boards? Are there discreet components?
> Where can I find the info?
>
> Thanks and 73.
> Joe
> AF6NI
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Re: [Elecraft] put together for kx3 kit?

2012-04-20 Thread af6ni
I have the same question. I'm thinking of ordering a KX3, but wonder how much
is involved in building the kit? 

There seems to be mucho info on the KX3 but hardly any on how the kit goes
together. Is it just a couple of boards? Are there discreet components?
Where can I find the info?

Thanks and 73.
Joe
AF6NI

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Re: [Elecraft] SMT and the K3 - Nerves

2012-04-20 Thread Tony Estep
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:

> ..."An engineer is a man who can do for five bob (25 cents) what anyone
> can do
> for a quid ($1)"...


and a government contractor is an outfit that can do for a guinea what
anyone else can do for half a crown.

Tony KT0NY



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[Elecraft] WWTB:KXAT1 tuner

2012-04-20 Thread af6ni
I just purchased a KX1 used, but it has no tuner. If anyone has a surplus
tuner they are not using I would be interested in buying it. Please email to
af...@arrl.net or call me at 619-840-8736.

Thanks and 73.
Joe
AF6NI

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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Matt,

You take the levels one at a time.  Set the K3 Line Out to 9 or 10, then 
adjust your soundcard Line in slider so you have good printing on the 
screen.

Then out the K3 in TX TEST - set the soundcard Line out (or volume) 
slider to about 2/3 of the scale, then adjust the K2 Line in gain to 
produce 4 full bars of ALC indication with the 5th bar flickering.

Note that these are one-time settings.  Unless something in the setup 
changes, there is no need for any additional adjustment.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/20/2012 12:11 AM, Matt Murphy wrote:
> Jim wrote: *as long as you take reasonable care to get levels right*
>
> How does one determine the ideal balance of line out volume, line in
> sensitivity, sound card output volume, and sound card mic sensitivity?
>
> 73,
> Matt NQ6N
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:02 PM, erehm  wrote:
>
>> Rich - Thanks.  The was really helpful.
>>
>> Wayne - Could FSK control be added to ACC2 GPIO (like K3 ACC DIG0) and PTT
>> toggled via the microphone connector, thus both available simultaneously to
>> external RTTY software?
>>
>> I'm new at this, so apologies if I've proposed something stupid...
>>
>> /eric, kj7ae
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Re: [Elecraft] SMT and the K3 - Nerves

2012-04-20 Thread Bill W4ZV

Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
> 
> 
> So, there are OK alternate techniques, such as heating both ends of the 
> component at the same time as Alan Bloom pointed out, or my usual 
> solution of heating both ends alternately in rapid succession until the 
> component moves, or the two soldering iron solution.  These all work, 
> and IMHO have less probability for damage to the PC board than 
> physically breaking the component in two.
> 

I agree with Don.  I've used one iron many times and 2-legged components
usually slide off to the side.  Practice makes perfect.  Before attempting
this on a good board, practice removing a few components on a scrap SMD
board to perfect your technique.  

Components with more than 2 legs are more of a challenge, but I've used the
cutting technique to remove 3 legged transistors without damage (so far
anyway).

73,  Bill


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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/19/2012 9:11 PM, Matt Murphy wrote:
> How does one determine the ideal balance of line out volume, line in
> sensitivity, sound card output volume, and sound card mic sensitivity?

I've written some stuff up, and will post it when I return from 
Visalia.  It's pretty easy.

73, Jim K9YC
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